It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for ignish with the
aw Fanta podcast team. This is Kelson, this is Alex and for the
ninety ninth time in ninety nine months, I'd say we had another update regarding
the WBD TV deal with aew WPD sounds dirty when you say it, anyway,
I won't. I won't say it exclusively Warner Brothers Discovery WD WBD is
fine. Yeah, so so you know, we we've had a lot of
updates that they've signed a deal, that they've agreed to something, but still
today even you know, July twenty first was the deadline for exclusive bargaining between
AW and Warner Brothers Discovery, who owns TNT and TBS where they have their
TV show, and it's been reported from a few sources that they have kind
of agreed to a deal, like they don't have the terms worked out,
but they seem to be saying that they have agreed that they will come to
a deal. Is my understanding of this news. Yeah, but the fightful
Select came out kind of shot that down, but it's the battle of the
dirt sheets at this point, who do you believe? Well, we also
had that news that well, not even news, it's been seen that they've
been uploading AW content to MAX in certain territories, like in Europe, I
know, at least France, but they've been uploading kind of the library of
AW events kind of. I gotta be honest with you here, let me
interrupt you here, Alex. I looked up like where match is available in
Europe, and there's it's places like Finland and Norway and France, et cetera.
I went to I I on my own dime. I went to all
of those places. Okay, yes, you've never heard of VPN. Well
that's what I Yeah, I did VP yeah. And and France is the
only one that has it so far that they have changed since yesterday morning.
But France is the only one that has it so far. Okay, But
like to me, even if it is just France, they have uploaded all
that content, would I would they upload Would they take the time to do
that if you know four months from now, AW is no longer going to
be part of Does that make any sense? So, like, there's a
lot of there's nothing official obviously, but there's a lot of smoke. To
me, so I think we are going to have some deal announced in the
maybe not immediate future, but in the next few months, and I think
for sure aw sticking with WBD. Yeah. Well, the thing that I've
heard the most is that a few months ago WBD made a made an offer
I guess to aw NAAWS didn't accept it, but they're negotiating it still.
So yeah, I'm interested to see what happens. Because the other thing that
comes to the play of this is that DNT, which of course is owned
by Warner Brothers Discovery, did bake a matching offer for part of the NBA
package. Yeah, that package. From what I've read on ESPN dot com,
that package would put NBA games on Thursday nights and then other games streaming
on Max as well. Though the reason I found that interesting is I'm kind
of thinking, Look, if I was Warner Brothers Discovery, one of my
main goals were would be to get AW off of Saturday night, specifically with
Collision, and put it on another night. But that being said, Thursday
is now out the out of the window. You know, it's taken out
out of commission because you've got the potential if, if, if the NBA
does accept the deal, the offer because NBA has the right to not accept
it. You know, I just thought the Baby Collision moving to Thursday night
made sense, Yeah, because that that would be the only other night that
they don't have wrestling on that's not Sunday. Because yeah, as Monday and
Tuesday and Friday, you has Wednesday and Saturday now and Friday as well.
Yeah, so I guess there's a would make sense. But so that's another
thing that I'm interested in to seeing if, because they were testing out a
few times, how the three hour block of wrestling go is Rampage can remain
a one hour show on Friday nights where they can to combine it into part
of Collision or part of Dynamite. I can tell you whether will never use
a Thursday NFL football as long as they're part of the they're involved with the
Jaguars, because there's the opportunity that there may be events, may they may
have games on Thursday night. Ten you'll never do wrestling on Thursdays. That's
a good point too, Yeah, Thursday night football is a big deal.
M Yeah. And another thing like that's interesting about the NBA staying with wb
D I know, David Dave Meltzer had said something about it kind of being
bad for the the money and a potential AW deal if they're sending out one
point eight billion dollars to the NBA. But if if CANT doesn't have the
NBA, then what then there's not a whole lot going on on that channel
other than you know T like you know, DC movies or whatever they show
on that channel. Well. Well, also keep in mind that the NBA
brings in I'm not sure that the NBA was profitable profitable for t T or
Warner Brothers Discovery, but you know, the best case scenario, the NBA
brings in money for the network, and therefore the network can then offer AW
more money. Now, if they're not getting that money in, then maybe
they can't offer AW more money. I don't know. It's there's a reason
I'm not at a TV executive. Yeah, and also I also heard that
NBA deal is bringing games to Max, and I think, yeah, if
you have NBA games on Max, you have AW on Max, you have
whatever other things they have the rights to, it just makes Max way more
interesting product and something that could maybe compete with Netflix and some of these other
things on a longer term than if he was just aw alone. Yeah,
I agree with you. Well, we've talked quite a bit. Does anybody
else have any I any opinions on on this prospective TV deal ready to go
ahead? Even without Basketball and TNT, they still have MLB on TBS and
they have hockey on tn T. I'm not I can't say I'm familiar with
the ratings off the top of my head, but it's not like without the
NBA there's no synergetic advertising for Turner Broadcasting. They still have professional sports,
so right, what doesn't tn T also have original dramas as well? Yes,
and they have The Big Bang Theory and Young Childen too. Mh.
So if I want if it goes to max, what are you guys wanting
out of it? What would you guys be arrested in a w have me?
Because I don't think they're going to give up T and T it being
on T and T. Are you hoping for pay per views being streamed from
there or are you hoping from a backlog? What are you guys wanting?
Well? Yeah, so what you said, you know, I definitely think
that having the pay per views being premium live events from now on, we're
no really good because more people would be able to see them. The biggest
thing to me is the prospect of having the libraries on Max, so people
go back and look at the beginning of a w and see what it's all
about, and see how some of these wrestlers had developed. I mean,
you could look at wrestlers that have been with DAW for a long time,
like Britt Baker and see how they they developed, Sammy Gavara, Sky Blue
and Julia Hart, Jack Perry obviously, Darby Allen, you know what I
mean. Yeah, and MGF Well, M Jeff really hasn't changed tab much
except he's gotten a lot more hitting the spray tad bottle a lot harder,
and he's bulked up a little bit. But he's still you know, our
scum bag. Yeah. And to that point, I really want them to
like make playlists, like you said, of these different wrestlers and just have
an easy way instead of just going back and watching like Rampage one or you
know, the first Few Dynamites. That's never a way that I really like
to go back and watch old wrestling. If they could have like playlists of
best matches and best promos to kind of package that together, I think that
makes it a lot funner too, and easier to sit through. Right.
Have you seen the Alex Have you seen the the I guess they're like a
mini biographies. I can't remember what they're called. But they've done several wrestlers
from AAW on the AW YouTube page where it chronicles their entire career in AAW
and you could literally watch every single match that some of these people have been
in, including dark matches, you know, and it's actually pretty interesting.
No, yeah, I've never I think I've seen it, maybe, but
I haven't actually just sat down and started watching one. That sounds like it'd
be really good though, especially if they could put that on there and I
can just sit on my TV and just click it on and fall asleep to
it type of thing. Yeah, the only one that I know. They've
done like three of them. I know. I know that the one with
Julia Hart caught my eye, but they're like even Julia Hart'squad was like two
hours long, so I mean, obviously it takes a lot of work to
do so, but yeah, but if you go on I don't know if
you if anybody here belongs to Honor Club, if you go on to Honor
Club. It has the current library, it has the back library of Hotter
Club. You can go on there and you can watch episodes all the way
back to the first episode of Honor Club, Ring of Honor, I mean
since Tony Kahan took it over and beyond that too. So that's important and
I have found myself going back and looking at those. Yeah, I have
watched some of that. And one thing that really bugs me is that you
know in Ring of Honor, just like back in the day in ECW,
that they use copyrighted music and you know WWE, if you watch some of
that old stuff on the WWE network back in the day, like they would
at least put music over that, like generic music, but there was something
there. From what I can tell, aw Or Ring of Honor is just
taking the music out, so it's just completely silent, Like you think you're
TV's broken when Brian Danielson's coming out the final countdown and just nothing his air
like playing it all. Yeah. Yeah, Well, it's gonna be interesting
over the next few days to see if anything is said about the Warner Brothers,
Discovery and AWTV deal. Although fightful select when they just posted about something
a couple hours ago about it. They just basically said that it's really not
as imminent as people are thinking it is. But I do believe that AAW
is negotiating with Warner Brothers Discovery and not really worrying about anybody else. But
let's move on because tomorrow night on AW Dynamite, we've got Blood and Guts,
that's the name of the show. Of course, We've got the Blood
and Guts match between Team a W and Team Elite. We've got other matches
as well. Is there anything on this card that stands out to you,
guys as what are you looking forward to the most? I mean, obviously
probably some most of us are going to say the Blood and Guts match between
AW and Team Elite, But there are some other interesting matches on this card.
Has anything caught your eye besides the Team Elite and Team AW match?
And furthermore, who do you like in this match? What do you think
is gonna happen in that in that Blood and Guts match? I'm gonna say
and step out. I don't really care about his boot match. I'm not
a big fan of it. I don't mind. It was good when it
started out, but I'm not a big fan of Mark Brisco and Max Caster
and them being in it, I thought they could have picked some better people
to be in it because I just I just don't care about their client.
I like Brisco, but I'm just not interested in this match. That's an
interesting point because I've seen a lot of people say nobody's really benched Mark Briscow
other than you. You know, people seem to be okay. But people
don't seem to be okay with Max Caster and Anthony Bowens. Some people were
saying FTR would have fit better. Uh, but there could be others too.
Are you so the next person that answers are you also? I guess
part of the question be are you happy with Tim ad w? I like
the lineup. I don't want to see FTR in that match. They've been
in this match a few months ago, you know, they've been in the
the the other one that was there, and I get tired of seeing FTR
in every match. Did something like this give some other people a chance?
You know, having a swerve and his history with the RB and his history
with the Elite or the uh uh with yeah, with the Bowens and company,
and it's it makes it interesting On Team A W side. I think
it's a good team. I think that I almost hope that they actually give
this win to ae W because having Elite the Elite just keep winning kind of
makes it useless to have these matches, all right, who has uh?
Who wants to go next? M I think we're being told every week that
this is a new era, for the Dynasty era for a W, and
I think Swerve Harby Allen obviously has the storyline up with the Elite getting back
to revolution Our brisk Co represents Ring of Honors, Swarve represents a W.
And then you have the Acclaimed, who are sort of the tag team of
the future and you know, maybe gonna win this title soon. So I
think it makes sense. I mean, we're in the Dynasty era. This
is swerves AW right now, and this is Swerves team, and it's representative
of that, and I think that makes sense. Yeah, and I I
agree, Like I like the composition of Team a W. I like Swearve
being featured. I like all the guys in the match. It's just that
they were kind of thrown together at the last minute, usually at blood of
Guts. It's like this team that's an established team versus another established team,
and yeah, there's my history there. Between those five guys, they're kind
of all their own people. Well, at least it wasn't Mark Brisco and
he claimed Tyler O'Reilly and Roderick Strong and Arge. That would even make a
little conglomerate. They conglomerate should have been the other side. It's the conglomeration,
not the Congloise, say something stupid saying apologized it was the conglomerate.
I forgot thet and blood and guts sells itself just because it's just such a
crazy match, like it can't be bad, it's not. No one's gonna
not watch it. Even if the Conglomeration and the Learning Tree were made up
team a W. I think even still Kelson would watch this match. Oh
no, I wouldn't. Oh no, he wouldn't. It would make him
watch it less was it that he was involved. But you know, beyond
the actual blood of Guts match on Collision on Saturday night, we saw a
very very unfortunate injury to sky Blue, which it's not been reported that she
suffered a broken ankle, which hey, it wasn't a torn ACL and a
tour in MCL, you know, but a broken ankle is still a broken
ankle, and that could be months, you know, doesn't We don't know
the extent of the broken ankle, but she suffered that in the match against
Karushida, and a few moments after the match was over, she'd have cut
a really really good promo in my opinion, where she challenged on Dynamite doctor
Britt Baker. So we are getting on Dynamite doctor Britt Baker dmb at Hakarushida.
And I don't know about you guys, but I think that this is
a pretty intriguing match. Yeah. I think it's a huge match because the
last time they fought, if I'm not mistaken, was a car. Sheeta
losing the title. The Britt Baker I didn't wrestle the last time she held
the belt, nor go ahead the car she'd have. Didn't they wrestle the
last time the car should have held the title? Did they? Did they
have one a tag? Okay? Or maybe it was a fatal four way?
Yeah? Yeah they were yeah, Yeah, that was that was it?
All in was the last time I think that they were in the ring
together. It was right before Breaker got hurt. Yeah, well, I
think but Baker was hurt at all in but she just was soldering on.
This will give Britt a chance to show that she's improved. I'm not holding
my breath because, you know, coming back doing a sob story during all
this time off. Hopefully she's improved. It will take a lot for her
to get better. She was not that impressive in the ring before. Well
know, right away, I mean, it ain't gonna be like it'll take
the whole match to figure it out. But hopefully she has gotten better because
that will add to the different things that is going on right now with her
in Mercedes, and hopefully that it's going to be a good match. Well
keep in mind also that it really doesn't matter if you're really good in the
ring as long as you've got that are about you. I mean, look,
let's not make any bones about it. Hulk Hogan was the most popular
wrestler of his time when he was in his prime, and he couldn't wrestle
for a ship, you know, I mean so and I don't even want
to talk about any Kingston so anyway, I mean that's my take on it.
I honestly in this in this uh Dynamite Tomorrow night. Those are the
two matches that stand out to me the rest. I mean, you've got
Murder Grandpa against Chris Jericho, which I don't whatever. Are you gonna watch
it? Uh? It depends on how it depends on how sadistic I feel
tomorrow. That's that's promising. I think most Jericho matches you would say you're
not gonna watch ahead of time. So no, that's incorrect. I like
Chris Jericho the ring. No, I mean, but the learning tree is
just stupid. Let me put it this way. If it's if it's a
freight match, I'll probably watch it. If they do a learning tree segment
before it, that's I'm gone. Well, his boys are banned from the
ring side, so it would be yeah, great if if he won,
But he won't. I didn't mean that he kept around but a little bit
and stuff because I am honestly I think it's time for Jerich go to lose
that title. I just don't want to go back to Hook if it does.
Uh. I mean he may be here for an excursion, so he
may be able to use it quite a bit, but I just don't want
to go back to Hook because I think Hook needs to go off and just
forget about that title. I agree with that. I mean Hook should't move
on to something else I could see. I could see Suzuki winning it tomorrow
night and it having something to do not with Hook but with Taz tz getting
in both somehow getting the title off with Jericho to clean it back up again
and make it what it once was instead of what it is now. Wow.
My dream is for Suzuki to win the title, put it on the
announcers and tesk in front of Taz, put a whole bunch of lighter fluid
on it, and take Jack Perry's or Darby Alex playthrower and light that sot
of a bitch and destroy it and never seen again. It's a ship title,
it's a meetingless title. I don't I like Taz, don't get me
wrong, but as that title has no business being in aaw get rid of
it. Yeah. I feel like they need to get rid of one title,
and if it's that title, so be it. I don't think it
wins. Yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry. What are the chances that
someone comes out and helps Jericho a new member of the Learning Tree, Oh
God forbid. Yeah, I think there's a good chance, But I don't
know, it would be maybe private party, you learned a lesson? Ah,
that kind of look. Tony Cotton needs to pay attention to what's being
said on the internet about the Learning Tree, and more importantly, they need
to look he needs to look at the absolute, complete and utter drop off
of gratings when the Learning Tree shows up. They are the single worst thing
on aw right now period. It was great to start off, but but
I think it's rain of course, I really think that. LOOKI gets it,
and and they move on, and maybe Jared I don't. I don't
know. I don't want to see anyone members added to it. I think
Jeredo needs to end it and do one of his world Grimers turns and just
go go to the different direction on it. Yeah, like I like it.
I for me, the worst part about it is Hook and Taz being
involved. Ah, but yeah, I have no issues with it. I
like it. Uh yeah, Hey, but if somebody else does come out,
why couldn't it be Ricky Starks? Oh that'd be terrible, It really
would, but it could be. I mean, that's it's the Learning Tree
they thrive on. Terrible. Yeah, Ricky Starks, he only had a
very brief time in the Jericho Vortex. He does have history with Big Bill.
It's so stupid, it might just work. That's the model of the
learning tree. Well, Alex, what do you want to talk about next?
Well, I guess yeah we have. Ricky Starks was in the news
recently and it was kind of a dumb article that I read. It was
saying that Ricky Starks is hinting he's going to return to wrestling, but he
didn't specifically say he was returning to a w So I think it's putting more
fuel on that is Ricky Starks leaving aw And why haven't we seen him in
many months? Well, I I posted this on our page and I didn't
check where it came from. And sports Skita is not exactly known for great
journalism, so they're more click baity thing. But look, if he's done,
he's done. I and I I think he'd deflated himself somehow, and
he was he was doing great and something happened. I don't know what it
was, but he's gonna go to WWE. More power to him. Lots
there's been several AW guys who have went there and and had moderate success,
So good luck to him. I don't think he's a superstar like some people
think he is, but he's definitely adequate. But if he wants to go
and join Cody, it is Brandon, go for it. Well, let
me ask you this, let me ask everybody this. I mean, you
pay attention to the Internet, you pay attention to what people are talking about
on discord or just day to day. It's a striking I've noticed this.
Nobody's talking about Ricky Starks. Even when they make these kind of articles about
Ricky Starks, nobody's talking about Ricky Starks. Does anybody care about Ricky Starks's
look it? I look at him at honestly as a mid quarter at best.
I was never really impressed with him. I mean, you know,
he's got a gimmick, is just every day running the milk kind of thing.
There's nothing spectacular about what he does. You know, he can talk
on the mic, I'll give him that, But other than that, he's
just He's just one of those guys that are like, I'm here, but
you can miss him and not miss him, you know what i mean.
Right when you look at Ricky Starks, do you see it better off at
a w as a heel or a babyface. I think you know, his
work his babyface in contrast to NJF was fantastic. I think his feud with
Powerhouse Hobs was good for what it was. He's a great heel. He
has a passion and an intensity that's palpable and I think collision he can be
a great heal. It's just hard when you have championship aspirations to do the
job like Ricky Starks has done so many times. So I you know,
I wonder what kind of creative he's supposedly been given and he's turned down.
I wonder what it has entailed. Well, look at you know, we've
talked about this before, but Ricky Starks is kind of cursed at aw and
he's even alluded to this and his promos. I mean, everything that he
gets into through no fault of his own falls apart. He had a thing
with Sam Punk Seampunk gets released. He had a thing with this guy and
that guy got hurt. You know what I mean. He had he started
to have a thing with Adam Copeland a little bit at Adam Copeland ripped him
a new asshole in a shoot. Promo looked like to me and Ricky Stark's
never covered from that. I mean, Pupeland made a book so bad talking
about uh, you know what, do you call him a midget rock wannabe
or something like that? That was it. Starks had nothing. M hmmm.
Yeah, that was a weird thing because, yeah, he like legitimately
upset Adam Copeland, who deems to be one of the nicest guys in the
world, at least wrestling. Yeah, but you know, there's certain things
that you don't come out and talk about. Adam Copeland's bug eyes with Adam
Copeland is a Hall of Famer veteran, and your Ricky Starks, I don't
know. In my mind, if you were to look at the handful of
young talent, you'd want to build this company around at least going forward.
In my mind, Ricky Starks is one of them. So it just like
I would say Jay White Is or MJF or Hangman or In my mind,
he's one of those guys because he can talk, because he can work in
the ring, and he's proven those things time and time again. I think
he could have been tagged Team Champions with Powerhouse Hobbs, and I just agree.
I think he had a chance when he first came in and he and
he kind of fizzled, so, you know, but like I said,
there's other places for him to go and he could shine somewhere else, but
he he faded into the background and it's time of Big Bill. Wasn't bad,
but then somehow Big Bill got sucked into Jericho bortex and really started out
shine him. So I don't know where they would put Ricky Starts. To
be honest, the problem with Big Bill and Ricky Starks is a Big Bill
out shown Ricky Starks. Ricky Starks needs to be a singles wrestler so he
can do his own thing and not have his own partner outshine him. That's
just my opinion on that. Well, let's move on because we had a
little bit of a weird I consider it a weird story. Is that her
business from WWE, Bobby lashly Uh was removed from the WWE internal roster.
MVP also was removed from the WWE internal roster, and we know that MVP
has had creative differences. I guess with triple H is the best way of
putting it. Shelton what's his name, Shelton Benjamin? Is that right?
Shelton Benjamin has been a free agent for a long time. He was a
part of her business group as well, and under Cedric, Alexander was still
with a with WWE. It is wrestled in several dark matches with Chante believe,
and the last one being last month I believe it was. But he's
still in the group. But there were reports saying that Bobby Lashley and MVP
want to come to AW and restart Hurt Business. Obviously, they won't be
able to call it Hurt Business because it is all script firm at w WWE
has a trademark for that name, so it'd be something different. But I
don't know. I mean, you get a little bit of a different,
different take on this. I posted this on THEAW vanom subreddit and some people
are like, sure, why not, And some people are like, the
last thing we need is a guy, another guy pushing fifty coming to AW.
So what are your thoughts on this? I'm not even sure it's the
age thing. Bobby lastly is one of those guys that they've used him in
some weird ass things and and they put him in there and had the whole
thing with him in Lana and and and russe v at the time that was
that was some crazy ass ship and and her business was okay, I guess,
but he's one of those guys that it's another big guy that Aw's got
plenty of them that they don't even use. Now. M VP was m
v P. I wasn't impressed with him when he was in his prime.
Benjamin I loved, always did think he got misused. He never got given
the chance that he should have. If I wish to choose any of those
three to come to a W would be Shelle Benjamin. But I don't really
see a need for him. I mean, where would you put him,
what would you do with him? Well, wasn't it Ricky Starks actually who
came on and said, we don't want Shelton Benjamin and a W or I
don't want him in a W. Maybe that's a built in feud right there.
Maybe that's what Yeah, yeah, that's true. This is true.
Uh, Mike has has the right to do that because he is the best
wrestler in the world. Well he's been doing that for everybody who they say
pop that handing, So uh, I just I'm not interested in it.
I don't think I know. There was a long time ago some beef between
Jericho and MVP. Uh. I just don't want the negativity. I don't
think we needed They're not I don't. I hate to use the term,
but I don't see them as needle movers as much. Lastly, he has
been around about every major company I can think of, and I just don't
want us to a w t B just another spot for him to come in
and do do some small things and go. I would rather sign younger talent
and build them up than I would rather see her hurt Walber. I like
Shelton Benjamin. I've been for him coming. Uh. I think Shelton Benjamin
could could do the Johnny TV type thing and put over some young talent.
But he's really like like el sentence that I just really he's the only one
I really want. M Yeah. I have two thoughts on it. I
think, Yeah, you don't want to just keep doing WWE. Also,
rans you don't want to just trot out acts that were there. It's kind
of yeah, it is like a throwback old WCW thing, just having you
know, WWE failed things that you're just showing on your TV show. But
they are, especially Bobby Lashley, he's a freak of nature. And if
they're in a position where they are just paired with some younger talent that you're
trying to make look good and it's not about them and it's about the younger
guys, then I could see it being okay. But I think it's probably
best to just say no because of it's just gonna look like you're retreading WWE
stuff. Yeah. I think that Sutt made a really good point. Let's
face it, of the group, Bobby Lashley is the marquee name, and
he's a big guy. I mean, look at him. I mean he's
obviously a big guy. And a w just does not utilize their big guys
full effect, I guess, is the best way I can put it.
They won't, you know, Hobbs has won the TNT Championship, so as
wardlow but very not memorable. I mean, if you're gonna have these big
guys, you gotta put them in big situations. Yeah, that's just something
that AW doesn't do. Yeah, just like one time, they need to
give one of these big guys just a run where they're killing everyone. They
win the world title and they're holding on to it for a while because it
just makes sense. Yeah, it's kind of funny because through the history up
to ae W, the big guy was what everybody wanted. You wanted that
big guy, you wanted that over the top personality. You wanted the bigger,
the bigger the guy, the better was Aw's like, nah, we
just we'll go with the younger guys or the literal guys that can move around
the ring. And it's totally flipped what wrestling's about, which is good.
I like it, but it's just weird because you've got the murder Hawk that
doesn't get used at all, you know, just the name one of the
fifteen guys they probably had that you could consider a big guy. So I
don't see any reason to bring in more big guys that are gonna do nothing
for you. I mean, look, they've got Turbo Floyd sitting there and
he'st not world champion yet, so there you go. Oh shoot, shoot,
that's not what I wanted to say. But keep it clean, you
know, you know, I mean troublet Floyd's the biggest wrestler of all time.
Yeah, as far as size and back, they brought back the biggest
wrestler of all time. Fuego was back there. You go. He came
back for it was an R eighth match. It was a four way match
somewhere. Yeah, yeah, he's back. Fuego baby, there you go.
Well, Alex, what's next on the agenda? Yeah, we had
n JF. I guess he's the next up for AW being sent to CML.
Yeah, does anyone know when that's taking place? August second? CMLL
is doing a one night tournament on July twenty seventh, I believe it is,
and the winner that tournament gets a shot at Arena Mexico, UH for
the AW International Championship. Of course, am JF is babbling there and he's
so rageously. I don't know if you saw the hot pub interview. As
the only way I can explain it, as he said, he's going down.
He's to promote the international AW internationally. He is going down uh and
taking it to the mast morons in Mexico. That's that's his words, not
mine. You gotta love NJF. I'm sorry. Yeah, it's just just,
oh, you better watch himself. I heard that they throw, you
know, certain substances on you in Mexico. And hopefully he doesn't go into
the crowd and slap someone's phone under their hands like he's hot to do here.
Oh boy, I'll tell you. But MGF has really played this up
because he actually made another thing. Uh. He had like a little bit
of a Twitter squabble with Gabe Kid from New Japan Pro Wrestling where Gaye Gabe
Kid called basically uh uh MJF a female reproductive part and uh and MGF responded
saying, I'm sure my boss is going to make me coming down to come
to Japan and wrestling your little indie fed at Russell Dynasty. So there are
already planning seeds for that down the line between m JF and Gabe Kid cross
possibly. So that's I mean, this is what we want from the International
Championship, Am I right? Yeah? M hmm. Yeah. When was
the last time we had an international champion defending a internationally well against the international
wrestlers and in aw but you know in the United States or Canada did a
bunch when he was the inaugural champion. I think Orange Cassidy defended it in
Rev Pro in England at one point. Yeah, aside from that, and
it's definitely been a little while, so I'm I'm really happy mjf's embracing that
aspect of the title. Yeah, I mean, look, Mercedes Beronet said
it best. Really what she said she does. She wanted to take AW
global. This is how you do it. But look, if you're gonna
put a AW shows on Max internationally, who's gonna watch it? If nobody
knows or cares? This is how you have to do it. So,
by the way, England doesn't have Max from what I understand, so won't
be there. So that and Dan's going to the perfect person to do it
because he's not really a high liar, so he's going to force these guys
to put on different style of match. And you know, he said a
lot of stuff in the past about different indeed, as they called him indies
fan, So I think he's a perfect heel to do it. Uh so
we'll see where he can go. But there's a whole list of people down
there, and see he could he could fight. But it supposed to be
the winner of the tournament, is it not? Yeah, a tournament.
I don't even remember who. I saw the poster for it, but I
don't remember who was in. It's it's a tornado match, right, I
don't know what type of match it is. To be honest with you,
I know that there's like six men in the match. I don't know if
it's I don't know if it's I don't even think it's a single match.
I think it's a It is a tournament. They've been saying it's a tournament,
so a single match wouldn't be a tournament, right, Yeah, I
think I saw that it was a match, so or sorry that it was
a tournament. So I'm imagining a series of matches all taking place in the
same night. Yeah, I know stuck a junior temporario ruggedo. I think
a couple of guys that have been in AW already I believe is yes,
the Sphinx, I think. I look, you know, I'm proud of
myself if I can get one of the syllables right in their names. I'm
just a total idiot when it comes to announcing people's names. So but yet,
I mean, look, this is a big deal for me, you
know, because we finally got an international champion who's going to be going international,
and that's a big deal. I honestly feel that way. I think
I think it's important that we seem to be AW seems to be putting everybody
in to They've got Mercedes with the uh new Japan title, You've got uh
happy Girl in my Brain is dead again, William's got the CMLL title.
We need to start going to other places with them. Stop having them all
come to ae W all the time. Have him go to these other places.
Start spreading it around a little bit, and that way we could do
that. You know, it's kind of odd that that, you know,
we seem to they Tony seems to love to get involved in other companies,
but he doesn't seem to want to take that next step where he's going out
there and promoting those other companies like you would think he would. Yeah,
and the hob does that happen. You're gonna let them win? Yeah,
and you gotta go and you gotta go to them. I'm sorry, it's
not gonna make I'd be like everybody. I'd be like if if down the
road a W and wwe did do a forbidden door thing and everybody wants w
W, or if we did something with Noah or something else and everybody comes
to ae W. That doesn't get you the exposure you need. You need
to spread rha. That's why I'm glad when they said the dynasty is gonna
be in New Japan. There's gonna be in Japan. That's gonna be amazing
if it works out to the C year anything. You got half of the
time they come here, the next half we go there. It's gonna be
huge in Japan for for ae W. But you're right, they got to
start spreading it around. But at some point you have to have you have
to trust someone internationally to have that tip have a title for a little bit
and usually because I don't understand why we can have people's title a titles but
yet they can't have ours. And I think that's a little selfish in my
opinion. Oh yeah, it is, and and then and and it and
it's Hey, I think they blew the perfect opportunity with the whole minas here
Kawa and Tony Storm thing. They should have done it then they could.
They had the perfect opportunity, but they could. They could have given it
to Minashir Kala and then flipped it over to Tony Storm in Japan two weeks
later. We would have been happened the same story as we are right now,
exactly. Actually, you could have took that a little bit further because
then you could have really had uh Mariah make a cause meanither the title or
whatever. It had a long opportunities. But you don't always get. That's
the thing that that that that people like us, that that the coach,
the booker, the armchair bookers don't always see though. There's always different things
that we don't see that keep us from doing them doing the things we think
they should. Yeah, about a visa issue, you never know. Yeah,
Baby Mariah May and Tony Storm don't have visas to go to Japan right
now, and that's what prevented it. And but Mina shir cow obviously has
no problems getting in the United States, so they still could have done it.
Let Mina shir Kawa go to Stardom or New Japan even and defend the
aw Women's World Championship and win a couple of matches there, then come back
and lose. You know, It's it's one of those things you've got to
take the you've got to take a AAW International and you've got to make it
meaningful. You can't just go someplace to have a match that you're going to
always win. You've got to make it. You gotta perhap them seed it
out as simple as that, Does anybody actually believe right now? Putting you
on the spot, does anybody actually believe that whoever the winner the CMLL tournament
is on August second, when MGF goes to Arena Mexico, does anybody believe
that he's gonna lose the International championship there? Now, the thing we have
to remember is it's sort of twofold. Is one, their companies want their
belts on AW television because of the amount of eyes that watch that program every
week. And two for Rena Mexico, it's not really about the it's it's
not only about the believability that someone might beat MJF. It's that Jf's advertises
being at the show, and he's a really big deal. So you know,
for them, it's a box office thing as much as it is anything
else. Yeah, And when they had like Blackpool Combat Club come to Reno
Mexico, they sold a lot of tickets just off that fact, YEP in
America, And then we always compare it to WWE ratings, don't ratings are
spectacular for network television. In the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty four,
a lot of companies clamoring to get their titles on aw television. So seven
hundred thousand odds people can see it every week. Yeah, that's just seven
hundred thousand American people, exactly. They do another one hundred thousand in Canada,
they do numbers in the UK, and probably more people are watching on
streaming illegally, you know, watching YouTube clips after the fact. So it
is a lot of eyeballs really in the grand scheme of things. Yeah,
I mean, but still, you know, I stand by my point and
we'll go I'll just go use the minasure kind of thing. Would you rather
see Tony Storm against Mina sure Kawa on Dynamite, uh, fighting Tony Storm
fighting to get her title back from Mina sure Kala on Dynamite? Or would
you rather see world Champion Tony Storm fight lmk, you know, in in
a open challenge match or something. I mean, you want to book a
match that's going going to get the eyes on it, you know. So
that's that's the point. But look, before we wrap things up, I
didn't want to mention a couple of little news stories that popped up. One
is that Melissa Santos has been hired by AW as a backstage personality and ring
announcer Santos was. She was in TNA for quite a while. She was
part of the Loocher Underground TV show where it was very popular there. And
he's actually the wife of Brian Cage. So it's nice having another person in
the aw family, an extended family. We got a lot of backstage personalities.
Rene the Kent is married to John Moxley. You've got now Melissa Santos
married to Brian Cage. You have Alicia Taut who is the girlfriend of MJF.
So yeah, I mean you've got a lot of a lot of families.
What was that you're breaking up? Isn't one of them? D's daughter?
Yeah, stepdaughter? Yeah, and she's dating a big bill. I
think they're married now, Okay, yeah, yeah. So it's interesting how
the backstage personalities are all well, not all of them. What about our
Katie Aurora, the newer one. Uh, I don't know if she's dating
her or in a relationship. It seems like a pre pre requirement. Who
are you dating? Uh? Nobody? Okay, Well we can't hire okay,
yeah, I mean you don't want to just have nepotism hires. You
want to hire people on merit, so hopefully he's good at being a backstage
interviewer. I won't judge her just because, but you know, you can't
keep doing it too much because then it starts to look kind of sketchy.
All right, So before we go, I want to ask that anybody watch
the Hologram mat was good. Oh yeah, that is a good mess.
Yeah, I saw clips of it. They brought out Gringo Loco, who
is like the greatest guy to take Luca moves in, at least in America,
so they had him doing the match. So of course he made everything
look great because you can stand on him. He can spin you around for
like, you know, five minutes at a time. Yeah, yeah,
I mean, and they I think a Loco has had several matches with Arabiz
who is now Hologram, in the past, so they've worked together, and
it was important that they had Hologram debut against somebody that he's worked with in
the past. The other person that I know of that he worked with in
the past is Ray Phoenix, and he was also on the show. But
hey, to say the Hologram was impressive would be an understatement. A lot
of people had a lot of positive things to say about Hologram. Let me
put it this way. He wasn't a Shockmaster by any means, shape orformance.
Now listen, I like this chunk Master made the best entest ever.
Yeah that I mean that is all. Most people only get fifteen minutes.
He's gotten the Bears for twenty some years now, so very long career.
Oh my gosh, ah, who was what's that talk boat? Yeah?
Yeah, John wasn't it? That's yeah? Okay, yeah, yeah,
he he's he passed away a few years ago. Uh. I probably at
his death, Betty was like, god, thank god. He probably said,
I swear because he would have never people are gonna be showing that clip
of Shockmaster coming. What would he come through a brick wall wall? They
didn't. It was they put like a two by four along the bottom that
he didn't see because he had a mask that barely had eye holes, and
he just he just dove right through it. I'll tell you what is just
Shockmasters. I think he's still alive. I'm pretty sure Shockmaster's still alive.
Yeah he is, Fred Otman. He's sixty seven. He's still going.
Oh maybe maybe it's though, right, Yeah, And they should hire him
young gosh, they should, they should bring him in for one show.
Bring him for one show. Is a shockmaster Darby Allen Coffin, drop him
or something before he gets through the you know something mean as part of the
learning tree. Oh god, you know, Like that's the thing with wrestling
is even when it's the worst ever, that's still no Remember what's that the
gobbledy gooker that had to be the worst thing ever. I don't even tell
what that that is? Cook the kid. I love that. Yeah,
there was a giant egg and then for Thanksgiving, I guess a giant turkey
dressed person came out of it and he was all right, I'm so glad
I missed that the Survivors he appeared or something like that. I think it
was. Oh boy, they made and they made, they made that like
the biggest thing that was ever gonna happen, And it was a damn Every
week it was on, it was like there was interviews done next to it,
and then it started happening and it was that big bird and I thought,
oh my god, So that like the best that was probably the best
sell job ever done. That was try to treat it seriously, beautile days
it danced around and stuff, and yeah, well I we're talking about Big
Bird on an aw podcast. We've come full circle. I'll tell you what.
Like, Yeah, you hate the learning tree Holston. But one day,
twenty years from now, you're going to be looking back reminiscent. Twenty
years from now, I plan on be a dead. Let's just face it.
I'm a man now. Maybe in your hospital bed here, your family
will be around you, and you'll be talking about Chris Jericho. Yeah,
they're gonna be like, oh my god, not only is he dying,
he's delirious too. Eddie and Jack will come visit you. Is the Sockbasters
still alive? I can see it now. I can see me on my
deathbed. You know. It's just like I can't believe Julia Hart's fifty years
old. Though this took an interesting turn, Oh jeez, but anyway,
when she was only eighteen, Oh my god, but wow, twenty you
got to make twenty eight years if you want to. They'll be around when
she's fifty. That's the goal. That, that's the goal. I want
to see Julia Hart turned fifty. That I could die in peace, you
know, but I want to be buried with a shock Master mask. That's
that's I got to put that in my will, not in a shop,
but I would. I want to go like next to me, like it
fell off, pumped in your arm. Whatever. But anyway, we're gonna
wrap this up right now because we're just we get goofy at the end of
these podcasts. I'm sorry we do. Uh So anyway, we'll be back
tomorrow night with all the talk where we will review Blood of Gods. I'm
kind of looking for I'm hoping that we see some surprises, you know,
because the card is just a other than the Blood and Guts match and the
hakaras Sheeta and Britt Baker match. There's really nothing that stands out, but
they can still be good, you know what I mean. It's just nothing
that stands out like, oh, that's going to be good. And I
hope that the Blood and Guts match is actually good because I don't know,
somebody said it or it just doesn't have that feel to it this time.
I don't know why. I guess it's because they didn't really build a big
story going into it, But that doesn't mean it won't be a great match.
Last few times, it's been like a blood beewed, and this time
it feels like a man type of thing. I just I just think,
you know, besides the hangman's swer dynamic of it, I don't I don't
see much into it. So who do you see getting thrown off the top
of the cage for each team? For each team the derby of course?
Well, yeah, yeah, he's gonna throw himself off because we will.
You'll get thrown on Max Caster, maybe pretty teammate w What about on the
team Elite. Yeah, it's gotta be Jack, that's true. It would
be cruel if you know, Okay, Kazuchika Okada. I can see him
standing out the side of the cage and yelling, bitch, Jesse falls,
Oh my god, wow, we will pay you never know it can happen,
But we'll find out tomorrow during AW Dynamite, Blood and Guts, and
we'll talk about it it on All Lead Talk for the a W Fan podcast
team. This is Kelson is Alex. Good night, everybody, maby y'all.
Bye, Eddie Kingston, wherever you are. I think he said his beads It