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It's Tuesday. You know what that
means. It's time for ignish with the

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aw Fanta podcast team. This is
Kelson, this is Alex and for the

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ninety ninth time in ninety nine months, I'd say we had another update regarding

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the WBD TV deal with aew WPD
sounds dirty when you say it, anyway,

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I won't. I won't say it
exclusively Warner Brothers Discovery WD WBD is

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fine. Yeah, so so you
know, we we've had a lot of

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updates that they've signed a deal,
that they've agreed to something, but still

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today even you know, July twenty
first was the deadline for exclusive bargaining between

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AW and Warner Brothers Discovery, who
owns TNT and TBS where they have their

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TV show, and it's been reported
from a few sources that they have kind

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of agreed to a deal, like
they don't have the terms worked out,

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but they seem to be saying that
they have agreed that they will come to

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a deal. Is my understanding of
this news. Yeah, but the fightful

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Select came out kind of shot that
down, but it's the battle of the

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dirt sheets at this point, who
do you believe? Well, we also

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had that news that well, not
even news, it's been seen that they've

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been uploading AW content to MAX in
certain territories, like in Europe, I

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know, at least France, but
they've been uploading kind of the library of

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AW events kind of. I gotta
be honest with you here, let me

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interrupt you here, Alex. I
looked up like where match is available in

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Europe, and there's it's places like
Finland and Norway and France, et cetera.

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I went to I I on my
own dime. I went to all

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of those places. Okay, yes, you've never heard of VPN. Well

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that's what I Yeah, I did
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only one that has it so far
that they have changed since yesterday morning.

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But France is the only one that
has it so far. Okay, But

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like to me, even if it
is just France, they have uploaded all

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that content, would I would they
upload Would they take the time to do

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that if you know four months from
now, AW is no longer going to

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be part of Does that make any
sense? So, like, there's a

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lot of there's nothing official obviously,
but there's a lot of smoke. To

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me, so I think we are
going to have some deal announced in the

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maybe not immediate future, but in
the next few months, and I think

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for sure aw sticking with WBD.
Yeah. Well, the thing that I've

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heard the most is that a few
months ago WBD made a made an offer

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I guess to aw NAAWS didn't accept
it, but they're negotiating it still.

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So yeah, I'm interested to see
what happens. Because the other thing that

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comes to the play of this is
that DNT, which of course is owned

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by Warner Brothers Discovery, did bake
a matching offer for part of the NBA

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package. Yeah, that package.
From what I've read on ESPN dot com,

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that package would put NBA games on
Thursday nights and then other games streaming

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on Max as well. Though the
reason I found that interesting is I'm kind

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of thinking, Look, if I
was Warner Brothers Discovery, one of my

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main goals were would be to get
AW off of Saturday night, specifically with

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Collision, and put it on another
night. But that being said, Thursday

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is now out the out of the
window. You know, it's taken out

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out of commission because you've got the
potential if, if, if the NBA

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does accept the deal, the offer
because NBA has the right to not accept

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it. You know, I just
thought the Baby Collision moving to Thursday night

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made sense, Yeah, because that
that would be the only other night that

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they don't have wrestling on that's not
Sunday. Because yeah, as Monday and

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Tuesday and Friday, you has Wednesday
and Saturday now and Friday as well.

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Yeah, so I guess there's a
would make sense. But so that's another

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thing that I'm interested in to seeing
if, because they were testing out a

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few times, how the three hour
block of wrestling go is Rampage can remain

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a one hour show on Friday nights
where they can to combine it into part

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of Collision or part of Dynamite.
I can tell you whether will never use

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a Thursday NFL football as long as
they're part of the they're involved with the

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Jaguars, because there's the opportunity that
there may be events, may they may

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have games on Thursday night. Ten
you'll never do wrestling on Thursdays. That's

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a good point too, Yeah,
Thursday night football is a big deal.

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M Yeah. And another thing like
that's interesting about the NBA staying with wb

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D I know, David Dave Meltzer
had said something about it kind of being

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bad for the the money and a
potential AW deal if they're sending out one

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point eight billion dollars to the NBA. But if if CANT doesn't have the

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NBA, then what then there's not
a whole lot going on on that channel

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other than you know T like you
know, DC movies or whatever they show

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on that channel. Well. Well, also keep in mind that the NBA

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brings in I'm not sure that the
NBA was profitable profitable for t T or

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Warner Brothers Discovery, but you know, the best case scenario, the NBA

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brings in money for the network,
and therefore the network can then offer AW

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more money. Now, if they're
not getting that money in, then maybe

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they can't offer AW more money.
I don't know. It's there's a reason

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I'm not at a TV executive.
Yeah, and also I also heard that

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NBA deal is bringing games to Max, and I think, yeah, if

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you have NBA games on Max,
you have AW on Max, you have

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whatever other things they have the rights
to, it just makes Max way more

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interesting product and something that could maybe
compete with Netflix and some of these other

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things on a longer term than if
he was just aw alone. Yeah,

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I agree with you. Well,
we've talked quite a bit. Does anybody

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else have any I any opinions on
on this prospective TV deal ready to go

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ahead? Even without Basketball and TNT, they still have MLB on TBS and

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they have hockey on tn T.
I'm not I can't say I'm familiar with

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the ratings off the top of my
head, but it's not like without the

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NBA there's no synergetic advertising for Turner
Broadcasting. They still have professional sports,

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so right, what doesn't tn T
also have original dramas as well? Yes,

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and they have The Big Bang Theory
and Young Childen too. Mh.

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So if I want if it goes
to max, what are you guys wanting

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out of it? What would you
guys be arrested in a w have me?

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Because I don't think they're going to
give up T and T it being

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on T and T. Are you
hoping for pay per views being streamed from

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there or are you hoping from a
backlog? What are you guys wanting?

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Well? Yeah, so what you
said, you know, I definitely think

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that having the pay per views being
premium live events from now on, we're

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no really good because more people would
be able to see them. The biggest

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thing to me is the prospect of
having the libraries on Max, so people

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go back and look at the beginning
of a w and see what it's all

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about, and see how some of
these wrestlers had developed. I mean,

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you could look at wrestlers that have
been with DAW for a long time,

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like Britt Baker and see how they
they developed, Sammy Gavara, Sky Blue

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and Julia Hart, Jack Perry obviously, Darby Allen, you know what I

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mean. Yeah, and MGF Well, M Jeff really hasn't changed tab much

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except he's gotten a lot more hitting
the spray tad bottle a lot harder,

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and he's bulked up a little bit. But he's still you know, our

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scum bag. Yeah. And to
that point, I really want them to

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like make playlists, like you said, of these different wrestlers and just have

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an easy way instead of just going
back and watching like Rampage one or you

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know, the first Few Dynamites.
That's never a way that I really like

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to go back and watch old wrestling. If they could have like playlists of

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best matches and best promos to kind
of package that together, I think that

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makes it a lot funner too,
and easier to sit through. Right.

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Have you seen the Alex Have you
seen the the I guess they're like a

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mini biographies. I can't remember what
they're called. But they've done several wrestlers

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from AAW on the AW YouTube page
where it chronicles their entire career in AAW

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and you could literally watch every single
match that some of these people have been

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in, including dark matches, you
know, and it's actually pretty interesting.

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No, yeah, I've never I
think I've seen it, maybe, but

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I haven't actually just sat down and
started watching one. That sounds like it'd

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be really good though, especially if
they could put that on there and I

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can just sit on my TV and
just click it on and fall asleep to

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it type of thing. Yeah,
the only one that I know. They've

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done like three of them. I
know. I know that the one with

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Julia Hart caught my eye, but
they're like even Julia Hart'squad was like two

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hours long, so I mean,
obviously it takes a lot of work to

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do so, but yeah, but
if you go on I don't know if

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you if anybody here belongs to Honor
Club, if you go on to Honor

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Club. It has the current library, it has the back library of Hotter

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Club. You can go on there
and you can watch episodes all the way

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back to the first episode of Honor
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since Tony Kahan took it over and
beyond that too. So that's important and

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I have found myself going back and
looking at those. Yeah, I have

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watched some of that. And one
thing that really bugs me is that you

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know in Ring of Honor, just
like back in the day in ECW,

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that they use copyrighted music and you
know WWE, if you watch some of

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that old stuff on the WWE network
back in the day, like they would

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at least put music over that,
like generic music, but there was something

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there. From what I can tell, aw Or Ring of Honor is just

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taking the music out, so it's
just completely silent, Like you think you're

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TV's broken when Brian Danielson's coming out
the final countdown and just nothing his air

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like playing it all. Yeah.
Yeah, Well, it's gonna be interesting

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over the next few days to see
if anything is said about the Warner Brothers,

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Discovery and AWTV deal. Although fightful
select when they just posted about something

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a couple hours ago about it.
They just basically said that it's really not

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as imminent as people are thinking it
is. But I do believe that AAW

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is negotiating with Warner Brothers Discovery and
not really worrying about anybody else. But

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let's move on because tomorrow night on
AW Dynamite, we've got Blood and Guts,

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that's the name of the show.
Of course, We've got the Blood

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and Guts match between Team a W
and Team Elite. We've got other matches

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as well. Is there anything on
this card that stands out to you,

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guys as what are you looking forward
to the most? I mean, obviously

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probably some most of us are going
to say the Blood and Guts match between

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AW and Team Elite, But there
are some other interesting matches on this card.

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Has anything caught your eye besides the
Team Elite and Team AW match?

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And furthermore, who do you like
in this match? What do you think

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is gonna happen in that in that
Blood and Guts match? I'm gonna say

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and step out. I don't really
care about his boot match. I'm not

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a big fan of it. I
don't mind. It was good when it

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started out, but I'm not a
big fan of Mark Brisco and Max Caster

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and them being in it, I
thought they could have picked some better people

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to be in it because I just
I just don't care about their client.

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I like Brisco, but I'm just
not interested in this match. That's an

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interesting point because I've seen a lot
of people say nobody's really benched Mark Briscow

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other than you. You know,
people seem to be okay. But people

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don't seem to be okay with Max
Caster and Anthony Bowens. Some people were

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saying FTR would have fit better.
Uh, but there could be others too.

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Are you so the next person that
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part of the question be are you
happy with Tim ad w? I like

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the lineup. I don't want to
see FTR in that match. They've been

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in this match a few months ago, you know, they've been in the

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the the other one that was there, and I get tired of seeing FTR

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in every match. Did something like
this give some other people a chance?

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You know, having a swerve and
his history with the RB and his history

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with the Elite or the uh uh
with yeah, with the Bowens and company,

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and it's it makes it interesting On
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it's a good team. I think
that I almost hope that they actually give

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this win to ae W because having
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makes it useless to have these matches, all right, who has uh?

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Who wants to go next? M
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this is a new era, for
the Dynasty era for a W, and

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I think Swerve Harby Allen obviously has
the storyline up with the Elite getting back

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to revolution Our brisk Co represents Ring
of Honors, Swarve represents a W.

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And then you have the Acclaimed,
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the future and you know, maybe
gonna win this title soon. So I

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think it makes sense. I mean, we're in the Dynasty era. This

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is swerves AW right now, and
this is Swerves team, and it's representative

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of that, and I think that
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agree, Like I like the composition
of Team a W. I like Swearve

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being featured. I like all the
guys in the match. It's just that

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they were kind of thrown together at
the last minute, usually at blood of

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Guts. It's like this team that's
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and yeah, there's my history there. Between those five guys, they're kind

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of all their own people. Well, at least it wasn't Mark Brisco and

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he claimed Tyler O'Reilly and Roderick Strong
and Arge. That would even make a

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little conglomerate. They conglomerate should have
been the other side. It's the conglomeration,

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not the Congloise, say something stupid
saying apologized it was the conglomerate.

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I forgot thet and blood and guts
sells itself just because it's just such a

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crazy match, like it can't be
bad, it's not. No one's gonna

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not watch it. Even if the
Conglomeration and the Learning Tree were made up

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team a W. I think even
still Kelson would watch this match. Oh

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no, I wouldn't. Oh no, he wouldn't. It would make him

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watch it less was it that he
was involved. But you know, beyond

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the actual blood of Guts match on
Collision on Saturday night, we saw a

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very very unfortunate injury to sky Blue, which it's not been reported that she

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suffered a broken ankle, which hey, it wasn't a torn ACL and a

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tour in MCL, you know,
but a broken ankle is still a broken

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ankle, and that could be months, you know, doesn't We don't know

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the extent of the broken ankle,
but she suffered that in the match against

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Karushida, and a few moments after
the match was over, she'd have cut

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a really really good promo in my
opinion, where she challenged on Dynamite doctor

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Britt Baker. So we are getting
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And I don't know about you guys, but I think that this is

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a pretty intriguing match. Yeah.
I think it's a huge match because the

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last time they fought, if I'm
not mistaken, was a car. Sheeta

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losing the title. The Britt Baker
I didn't wrestle the last time she held

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the belt, nor go ahead the
car she'd have. Didn't they wrestle the

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last time the car should have held
the title? Did they? Did they

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have one a tag? Okay?
Or maybe it was a fatal four way?

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Yeah? Yeah they were yeah,
Yeah, that was that was it?

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All in was the last time I
think that they were in the ring

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together. It was right before Breaker
got hurt. Yeah, well, I

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think but Baker was hurt at all
in but she just was soldering on.

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This will give Britt a chance to
show that she's improved. I'm not holding

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my breath because, you know,
coming back doing a sob story during all

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this time off. Hopefully she's improved. It will take a lot for her

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to get better. She was not
that impressive in the ring before. Well

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know, right away, I mean, it ain't gonna be like it'll take

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the whole match to figure it out. But hopefully she has gotten better because

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that will add to the different things
that is going on right now with her

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in Mercedes, and hopefully that it's
going to be a good match. Well

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keep in mind also that it really
doesn't matter if you're really good in the

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ring as long as you've got that
are about you. I mean, look,

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let's not make any bones about it. Hulk Hogan was the most popular

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wrestler of his time when he was
in his prime, and he couldn't wrestle

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for a ship, you know,
I mean so and I don't even want

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to talk about any Kingston so anyway, I mean that's my take on it.

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I honestly in this in this uh
Dynamite Tomorrow night. Those are the

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two matches that stand out to me
the rest. I mean, you've got

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Murder Grandpa against Chris Jericho, which
I don't whatever. Are you gonna watch

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it? Uh? It depends on
how it depends on how sadistic I feel

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tomorrow. That's that's promising. I
think most Jericho matches you would say you're

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not gonna watch ahead of time.
So no, that's incorrect. I like

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Chris Jericho the ring. No,
I mean, but the learning tree is

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just stupid. Let me put it
this way. If it's if it's a

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freight match, I'll probably watch it. If they do a learning tree segment

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before it, that's I'm gone.
Well, his boys are banned from the

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ring side, so it would be
yeah, great if if he won,

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But he won't. I didn't mean
that he kept around but a little bit

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and stuff because I am honestly I
think it's time for Jerich go to lose

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that title. I just don't want
to go back to Hook if it does.

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Uh. I mean he may be
here for an excursion, so he

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may be able to use it quite
a bit, but I just don't want

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to go back to Hook because I
think Hook needs to go off and just

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forget about that title. I agree
with that. I mean Hook should't move

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on to something else I could see. I could see Suzuki winning it tomorrow

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night and it having something to do
not with Hook but with Taz tz getting

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in both somehow getting the title off
with Jericho to clean it back up again

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and make it what it once was
instead of what it is now. Wow.

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My dream is for Suzuki to win
the title, put it on the

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announcers and tesk in front of Taz, put a whole bunch of lighter fluid

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on it, and take Jack Perry's
or Darby Alex playthrower and light that sot

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of a bitch and destroy it and
never seen again. It's a ship title,

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it's a meetingless title. I don't
I like Taz, don't get me

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wrong, but as that title has
no business being in aaw get rid of

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it. Yeah. I feel like
they need to get rid of one title,

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and if it's that title, so
be it. I don't think it

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wins. Yeah, go ahead,
I'm sorry. What are the chances that

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someone comes out and helps Jericho a
new member of the Learning Tree, Oh

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God forbid. Yeah, I think
there's a good chance, But I don't

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know, it would be maybe private
party, you learned a lesson? Ah,

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that kind of look. Tony Cotton
needs to pay attention to what's being

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said on the internet about the Learning
Tree, and more importantly, they need

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to look he needs to look at
the absolute, complete and utter drop off

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of gratings when the Learning Tree shows
up. They are the single worst thing

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on aw right now period. It
was great to start off, but but

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I think it's rain of course,
I really think that. LOOKI gets it,

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and and they move on, and
maybe Jared I don't. I don't

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know. I don't want to see
anyone members added to it. I think

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Jeredo needs to end it and do
one of his world Grimers turns and just

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go go to the different direction on
it. Yeah, like I like it.

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I for me, the worst part
about it is Hook and Taz being

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involved. Ah, but yeah,
I have no issues with it. I

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like it. Uh yeah, Hey, but if somebody else does come out,

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why couldn't it be Ricky Starks?
Oh that'd be terrible, It really

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would, but it could be.
I mean, that's it's the Learning Tree

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they thrive on. Terrible. Yeah, Ricky Starks, he only had a

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very brief time in the Jericho Vortex. He does have history with Big Bill.

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It's so stupid, it might just
work. That's the model of the

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learning tree. Well, Alex,
what do you want to talk about next?

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Well, I guess yeah we have. Ricky Starks was in the news

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recently and it was kind of a
dumb article that I read. It was

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saying that Ricky Starks is hinting he's
going to return to wrestling, but he

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didn't specifically say he was returning to
a w So I think it's putting more

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fuel on that is Ricky Starks leaving
aw And why haven't we seen him in

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many months? Well, I I
posted this on our page and I didn't

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check where it came from. And
sports Skita is not exactly known for great

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journalism, so they're more click baity
thing. But look, if he's done,

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he's done. I and I I
think he'd deflated himself somehow, and

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he was he was doing great and
something happened. I don't know what it

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was, but he's gonna go to
WWE. More power to him. Lots

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there's been several AW guys who have
went there and and had moderate success,

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So good luck to him. I
don't think he's a superstar like some people

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think he is, but he's definitely
adequate. But if he wants to go

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and join Cody, it is Brandon, go for it. Well, let

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me ask you this, let me
ask everybody this. I mean, you

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pay attention to the Internet, you
pay attention to what people are talking about

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on discord or just day to day. It's a striking I've noticed this.

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Nobody's talking about Ricky Starks. Even
when they make these kind of articles about

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Ricky Starks, nobody's talking about Ricky
Starks. Does anybody care about Ricky Starks's

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look it? I look at him
at honestly as a mid quarter at best.

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I was never really impressed with him. I mean, you know,

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he's got a gimmick, is just
every day running the milk kind of thing.

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There's nothing spectacular about what he does. You know, he can talk

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on the mic, I'll give him
that, But other than that, he's

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just He's just one of those guys
that are like, I'm here, but

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you can miss him and not miss
him, you know what i mean.

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Right when you look at Ricky Starks, do you see it better off at

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a w as a heel or a
babyface. I think you know, his

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work his babyface in contrast to NJF
was fantastic. I think his feud with

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Powerhouse Hobs was good for what it
was. He's a great heel. He

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has a passion and an intensity that's
palpable and I think collision he can be

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a great heal. It's just hard
when you have championship aspirations to do the

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job like Ricky Starks has done so
many times. So I you know,

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I wonder what kind of creative he's
supposedly been given and he's turned down.

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I wonder what it has entailed.
Well, look at you know, we've

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talked about this before, but Ricky
Starks is kind of cursed at aw and

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he's even alluded to this and his
promos. I mean, everything that he

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gets into through no fault of his
own falls apart. He had a thing

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with Sam Punk Seampunk gets released.
He had a thing with this guy and

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that guy got hurt. You know
what I mean. He had he started

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to have a thing with Adam Copeland
a little bit at Adam Copeland ripped him

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a new asshole in a shoot.
Promo looked like to me and Ricky Stark's

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never covered from that. I mean, Pupeland made a book so bad talking

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about uh, you know what,
do you call him a midget rock wannabe

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or something like that? That was
it. Starks had nothing. M hmmm.

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Yeah, that was a weird thing
because, yeah, he like legitimately

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upset Adam Copeland, who deems to
be one of the nicest guys in the

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world, at least wrestling. Yeah, but you know, there's certain things

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that you don't come out and talk
about. Adam Copeland's bug eyes with Adam

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Copeland is a Hall of Famer veteran, and your Ricky Starks, I don't

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know. In my mind, if
you were to look at the handful of

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young talent, you'd want to build
this company around at least going forward.

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In my mind, Ricky Starks is
one of them. So it just like

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I would say Jay White Is or
MJF or Hangman or In my mind,

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he's one of those guys because he
can talk, because he can work in

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the ring, and he's proven those
things time and time again. I think

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he could have been tagged Team Champions
with Powerhouse Hobbs, and I just agree.

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I think he had a chance when
he first came in and he and

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he kind of fizzled, so,
you know, but like I said,

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there's other places for him to go
and he could shine somewhere else, but

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he he faded into the background and
it's time of Big Bill. Wasn't bad,

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but then somehow Big Bill got sucked
into Jericho bortex and really started out

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shine him. So I don't know
where they would put Ricky Starts. To

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be honest, the problem with Big
Bill and Ricky Starks is a Big Bill

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out shown Ricky Starks. Ricky Starks
needs to be a singles wrestler so he

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can do his own thing and not
have his own partner outshine him. That's

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just my opinion on that. Well, let's move on because we had a

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little bit of a weird I consider
it a weird story. Is that her

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business from WWE, Bobby lashly Uh
was removed from the WWE internal roster.

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MVP also was removed from the WWE
internal roster, and we know that MVP

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has had creative differences. I guess
with triple H is the best way of

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putting it. Shelton what's his name, Shelton Benjamin? Is that right?

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Shelton Benjamin has been a free agent
for a long time. He was a

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part of her business group as well, and under Cedric, Alexander was still

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with a with WWE. It is
wrestled in several dark matches with Chante believe,

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and the last one being last month
I believe it was. But he's

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still in the group. But there
were reports saying that Bobby Lashley and MVP

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want to come to AW and restart
Hurt Business. Obviously, they won't be

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able to call it Hurt Business because
it is all script firm at w WWE

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has a trademark for that name,
so it'd be something different. But I

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don't know. I mean, you
get a little bit of a different,

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different take on this. I posted
this on THEAW vanom subreddit and some people

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are like, sure, why not, And some people are like, the

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last thing we need is a guy, another guy pushing fifty coming to AW.

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So what are your thoughts on this? I'm not even sure it's the

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age thing. Bobby lastly is one
of those guys that they've used him in

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some weird ass things and and they
put him in there and had the whole

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thing with him in Lana and and
and russe v at the time that was

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that was some crazy ass ship and
and her business was okay, I guess,

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but he's one of those guys that
it's another big guy that Aw's got

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plenty of them that they don't even
use. Now. M VP was m

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v P. I wasn't impressed with
him when he was in his prime.

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Benjamin I loved, always did think
he got misused. He never got given

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the chance that he should have.
If I wish to choose any of those

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three to come to a W would
be Shelle Benjamin. But I don't really

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see a need for him. I
mean, where would you put him,

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what would you do with him?
Well, wasn't it Ricky Starks actually who

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came on and said, we don't
want Shelton Benjamin and a W or I

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don't want him in a W.
Maybe that's a built in feud right there.

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Maybe that's what Yeah, yeah,
that's true. This is true.

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Uh, Mike has has the right
to do that because he is the best

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wrestler in the world. Well he's
been doing that for everybody who they say

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pop that handing, So uh,
I just I'm not interested in it.

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I don't think I know. There
was a long time ago some beef between

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Jericho and MVP. Uh. I
just don't want the negativity. I don't

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think we needed They're not I don't. I hate to use the term,

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but I don't see them as needle
movers as much. Lastly, he has

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been around about every major company I
can think of, and I just don't

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want us to a w t B
just another spot for him to come in

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and do do some small things and
go. I would rather sign younger talent

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and build them up than I would
rather see her hurt Walber. I like

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Shelton Benjamin. I've been for him
coming. Uh. I think Shelton Benjamin

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could could do the Johnny TV type
thing and put over some young talent.

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But he's really like like el sentence
that I just really he's the only one

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I really want. M Yeah.
I have two thoughts on it. I

405
00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:16.519
think, Yeah, you don't want
to just keep doing WWE. Also,

406
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:22.559
rans you don't want to just trot
out acts that were there. It's kind

407
00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:28.760
of yeah, it is like a
throwback old WCW thing, just having you

408
00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:35.719
know, WWE failed things that you're
just showing on your TV show. But

409
00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:40.760
they are, especially Bobby Lashley,
he's a freak of nature. And if

410
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:46.800
they're in a position where they are
just paired with some younger talent that you're

411
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:51.639
trying to make look good and it's
not about them and it's about the younger

412
00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:55.840
guys, then I could see it
being okay. But I think it's probably

413
00:37:55.880 --> 00:38:01.239
best to just say no because of
it's just gonna look like you're retreading WWE

414
00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:08.480
stuff. Yeah. I think that
Sutt made a really good point. Let's

415
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:15.719
face it, of the group,
Bobby Lashley is the marquee name, and

416
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:17.800
he's a big guy. I mean, look at him. I mean he's

417
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:24.599
obviously a big guy. And a
w just does not utilize their big guys

418
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:29.039
full effect, I guess, is
the best way I can put it.

419
00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:34.000
They won't, you know, Hobbs
has won the TNT Championship, so as

420
00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:38.920
wardlow but very not memorable. I
mean, if you're gonna have these big

421
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:44.880
guys, you gotta put them in
big situations. Yeah, that's just something

422
00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:47.920
that AW doesn't do. Yeah,
just like one time, they need to

423
00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:52.840
give one of these big guys just
a run where they're killing everyone. They

424
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:58.159
win the world title and they're holding
on to it for a while because it

425
00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:02.639
just makes sense. Yeah, it's
kind of funny because through the history up

426
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:07.440
to ae W, the big guy
was what everybody wanted. You wanted that

427
00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:10.360
big guy, you wanted that over
the top personality. You wanted the bigger,

428
00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:15.039
the bigger the guy, the better
was Aw's like, nah, we

429
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:17.719
just we'll go with the younger guys
or the literal guys that can move around

430
00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:22.039
the ring. And it's totally flipped
what wrestling's about, which is good.

431
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:25.960
I like it, but it's just
weird because you've got the murder Hawk that

432
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:31.079
doesn't get used at all, you
know, just the name one of the

433
00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:37.039
fifteen guys they probably had that you
could consider a big guy. So I

434
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:39.920
don't see any reason to bring in
more big guys that are gonna do nothing

435
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:45.400
for you. I mean, look, they've got Turbo Floyd sitting there and

436
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:52.880
he'st not world champion yet, so
there you go. Oh shoot, shoot,

437
00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:55.880
that's not what I wanted to say. But keep it clean, you

438
00:39:55.920 --> 00:40:00.320
know, you know, I mean
troublet Floyd's the biggest wrestler of all time.

439
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:05.280
Yeah, as far as size and
back, they brought back the biggest

440
00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:09.599
wrestler of all time. Fuego was
back there. You go. He came

441
00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:13.880
back for it was an R eighth
match. It was a four way match

442
00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:19.239
somewhere. Yeah, yeah, he's
back. Fuego baby, there you go.

443
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:28.280
Well, Alex, what's next on
the agenda? Yeah, we had

444
00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:35.239
n JF. I guess he's the
next up for AW being sent to CML.

445
00:40:36.440 --> 00:40:42.119
Yeah, does anyone know when that's
taking place? August second? CMLL

446
00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:45.559
is doing a one night tournament on
July twenty seventh, I believe it is,

447
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:52.000
and the winner that tournament gets a
shot at Arena Mexico, UH for

448
00:40:53.199 --> 00:40:59.679
the AW International Championship. Of course, am JF is babbling there and he's

449
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:01.639
so rageously. I don't know if
you saw the hot pub interview. As

450
00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:07.079
the only way I can explain it, as he said, he's going down.

451
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:14.280
He's to promote the international AW internationally. He is going down uh and

452
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:20.679
taking it to the mast morons in
Mexico. That's that's his words, not

453
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:25.360
mine. You gotta love NJF.
I'm sorry. Yeah, it's just just,

454
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:31.920
oh, you better watch himself.
I heard that they throw, you

455
00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:37.679
know, certain substances on you in
Mexico. And hopefully he doesn't go into

456
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:43.000
the crowd and slap someone's phone under
their hands like he's hot to do here.

457
00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:46.760
Oh boy, I'll tell you.
But MGF has really played this up

458
00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:52.119
because he actually made another thing.
Uh. He had like a little bit

459
00:41:52.159 --> 00:42:00.760
of a Twitter squabble with Gabe Kid
from New Japan Pro Wrestling where Gaye Gabe

460
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:12.599
Kid called basically uh uh MJF a
female reproductive part and uh and MGF responded

461
00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:15.960
saying, I'm sure my boss is
going to make me coming down to come

462
00:42:16.039 --> 00:42:22.280
to Japan and wrestling your little indie
fed at Russell Dynasty. So there are

463
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:29.280
already planning seeds for that down the
line between m JF and Gabe Kid cross

464
00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:34.639
possibly. So that's I mean,
this is what we want from the International

465
00:42:34.760 --> 00:42:38.480
Championship, Am I right? Yeah? M hmm. Yeah. When was

466
00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:47.960
the last time we had an international
champion defending a internationally well against the international

467
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:55.760
wrestlers and in aw but you know
in the United States or Canada did a

468
00:42:55.880 --> 00:43:00.679
bunch when he was the inaugural champion. I think Orange Cassidy defended it in

469
00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:07.719
Rev Pro in England at one point. Yeah, aside from that, and

470
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:14.000
it's definitely been a little while,
so I'm I'm really happy mjf's embracing that

471
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:21.920
aspect of the title. Yeah,
I mean, look, Mercedes Beronet said

472
00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:25.400
it best. Really what she said
she does. She wanted to take AW

473
00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:30.239
global. This is how you do
it. But look, if you're gonna

474
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:37.039
put a AW shows on Max internationally, who's gonna watch it? If nobody

475
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:44.280
knows or cares? This is how
you have to do it. So,

476
00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:49.599
by the way, England doesn't have
Max from what I understand, so won't

477
00:43:49.639 --> 00:43:54.800
be there. So that and Dan's
going to the perfect person to do it

478
00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:59.360
because he's not really a high liar, so he's going to force these guys

479
00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:01.840
to put on different style of match. And you know, he said a

480
00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:07.119
lot of stuff in the past about
different indeed, as they called him indies

481
00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:10.119
fan, So I think he's a
perfect heel to do it. Uh so

482
00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:15.960
we'll see where he can go.
But there's a whole list of people down

483
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:17.559
there, and see he could he
could fight. But it supposed to be

484
00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:22.199
the winner of the tournament, is
it not? Yeah, a tournament.

485
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:28.000
I don't even remember who. I
saw the poster for it, but I

486
00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:32.800
don't remember who was in. It's
it's a tornado match, right, I

487
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:37.320
don't know what type of match it
is. To be honest with you,

488
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:42.559
I know that there's like six men
in the match. I don't know if

489
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:44.920
it's I don't know if it's I
don't even think it's a single match.

490
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:47.800
I think it's a It is a
tournament. They've been saying it's a tournament,

491
00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:53.440
so a single match wouldn't be a
tournament, right, Yeah, I

492
00:44:53.519 --> 00:44:57.559
think I saw that it was a
match, so or sorry that it was

493
00:44:57.639 --> 00:45:01.159
a tournament. So I'm imagining a
series of matches all taking place in the

494
00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:10.199
same night. Yeah, I know
stuck a junior temporario ruggedo. I think

495
00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:15.840
a couple of guys that have been
in AW already I believe is yes,

496
00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:23.519
the Sphinx, I think. I
look, you know, I'm proud of

497
00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:28.400
myself if I can get one of
the syllables right in their names. I'm

498
00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:35.159
just a total idiot when it comes
to announcing people's names. So but yet,

499
00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:37.400
I mean, look, this is
a big deal for me, you

500
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:45.639
know, because we finally got an
international champion who's going to be going international,

501
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:53.719
and that's a big deal. I
honestly feel that way. I think

502
00:45:53.719 --> 00:45:59.679
I think it's important that we seem
to be AW seems to be putting everybody

503
00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:07.719
in to They've got Mercedes with the
uh new Japan title, You've got uh

504
00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:14.760
happy Girl in my Brain is dead
again, William's got the CMLL title.

505
00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:19.920
We need to start going to other
places with them. Stop having them all

506
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:23.119
come to ae W all the time. Have him go to these other places.

507
00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:25.760
Start spreading it around a little bit, and that way we could do

508
00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:30.360
that. You know, it's kind
of odd that that, you know,

509
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:35.159
we seem to they Tony seems to
love to get involved in other companies,

510
00:46:36.039 --> 00:46:40.519
but he doesn't seem to want to
take that next step where he's going out

511
00:46:40.599 --> 00:46:49.559
there and promoting those other companies like
you would think he would. Yeah,

512
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:52.000
and the hob does that happen.
You're gonna let them win? Yeah,

513
00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:55.880
and you gotta go and you gotta
go to them. I'm sorry, it's

514
00:46:55.960 --> 00:47:00.800
not gonna make I'd be like everybody. I'd be like if if down the

515
00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:05.159
road a W and wwe did do
a forbidden door thing and everybody wants w

516
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:09.639
W, or if we did something
with Noah or something else and everybody comes

517
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:14.960
to ae W. That doesn't get
you the exposure you need. You need

518
00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:16.679
to spread rha. That's why I'm
glad when they said the dynasty is gonna

519
00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:21.599
be in New Japan. There's gonna
be in Japan. That's gonna be amazing

520
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:23.800
if it works out to the C
year anything. You got half of the

521
00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:28.000
time they come here, the next
half we go there. It's gonna be

522
00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:30.800
huge in Japan for for ae W. But you're right, they got to

523
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:37.280
start spreading it around. But at
some point you have to have you have

524
00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:42.519
to trust someone internationally to have that
tip have a title for a little bit

525
00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:47.440
and usually because I don't understand why
we can have people's title a titles but

526
00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:52.599
yet they can't have ours. And
I think that's a little selfish in my

527
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:55.559
opinion. Oh yeah, it is, and and then and and it and

528
00:47:55.679 --> 00:48:05.039
it's Hey, I think they blew
the perfect opportunity with the whole minas here

529
00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:07.880
Kawa and Tony Storm thing. They
should have done it then they could.

530
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:14.000
They had the perfect opportunity, but
they could. They could have given it

531
00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:17.679
to Minashir Kala and then flipped it
over to Tony Storm in Japan two weeks

532
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:22.320
later. We would have been happened
the same story as we are right now,

533
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:25.320
exactly. Actually, you could have
took that a little bit further because

534
00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:31.559
then you could have really had uh
Mariah make a cause meanither the title or

535
00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:37.039
whatever. It had a long opportunities. But you don't always get. That's

536
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:40.639
the thing that that that that people
like us, that that the coach,

537
00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:46.039
the booker, the armchair bookers don't
always see though. There's always different things

538
00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:49.920
that we don't see that keep us
from doing them doing the things we think

539
00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:54.239
they should. Yeah, about a
visa issue, you never know. Yeah,

540
00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:59.519
Baby Mariah May and Tony Storm don't
have visas to go to Japan right

541
00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:04.239
now, and that's what prevented it. And but Mina shir cow obviously has

542
00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:06.800
no problems getting in the United States, so they still could have done it.

543
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:14.079
Let Mina shir Kawa go to Stardom
or New Japan even and defend the

544
00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:19.559
aw Women's World Championship and win a
couple of matches there, then come back

545
00:49:19.639 --> 00:49:22.920
and lose. You know, It's
it's one of those things you've got to

546
00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:27.559
take the you've got to take a
AAW International and you've got to make it

547
00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:30.239
meaningful. You can't just go someplace
to have a match that you're going to

548
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:35.880
always win. You've got to make
it. You gotta perhap them seed it

549
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:43.880
out as simple as that, Does
anybody actually believe right now? Putting you

550
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:47.800
on the spot, does anybody actually
believe that whoever the winner the CMLL tournament

551
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:54.280
is on August second, when MGF
goes to Arena Mexico, does anybody believe

552
00:49:54.320 --> 00:50:00.480
that he's gonna lose the International championship
there? Now, the thing we have

553
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:06.039
to remember is it's sort of twofold. Is one, their companies want their

554
00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:08.719
belts on AW television because of the
amount of eyes that watch that program every

555
00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:14.679
week. And two for Rena Mexico, it's not really about the it's it's

556
00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:21.480
not only about the believability that someone
might beat MJF. It's that Jf's advertises

557
00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:25.760
being at the show, and he's
a really big deal. So you know,

558
00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:29.360
for them, it's a box office
thing as much as it is anything

559
00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:36.480
else. Yeah, And when they
had like Blackpool Combat Club come to Reno

560
00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:46.400
Mexico, they sold a lot of
tickets just off that fact, YEP in

561
00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:52.119
America, And then we always compare
it to WWE ratings, don't ratings are

562
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:55.880
spectacular for network television. In the
Year of Our Lord twenty twenty four,

563
00:50:57.039 --> 00:51:00.639
a lot of companies clamoring to get
their titles on aw television. So seven

564
00:51:00.719 --> 00:51:07.360
hundred thousand odds people can see it
every week. Yeah, that's just seven

565
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:13.719
hundred thousand American people, exactly.
They do another one hundred thousand in Canada,

566
00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:17.760
they do numbers in the UK,
and probably more people are watching on

567
00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:24.360
streaming illegally, you know, watching
YouTube clips after the fact. So it

568
00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:30.199
is a lot of eyeballs really in
the grand scheme of things. Yeah,

569
00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:34.400
I mean, but still, you
know, I stand by my point and

570
00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:37.079
we'll go I'll just go use the
minasure kind of thing. Would you rather

571
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:47.679
see Tony Storm against Mina sure Kawa
on Dynamite, uh, fighting Tony Storm

572
00:51:49.159 --> 00:51:52.880
fighting to get her title back from
Mina sure Kala on Dynamite? Or would

573
00:51:52.880 --> 00:52:02.039
you rather see world Champion Tony Storm
fight lmk, you know, in in

574
00:52:02.159 --> 00:52:07.840
a open challenge match or something.
I mean, you want to book a

575
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:14.199
match that's going going to get the
eyes on it, you know. So

576
00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:20.719
that's that's the point. But look, before we wrap things up, I

577
00:52:20.760 --> 00:52:25.199
didn't want to mention a couple of
little news stories that popped up. One

578
00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:31.360
is that Melissa Santos has been hired
by AW as a backstage personality and ring

579
00:52:31.400 --> 00:52:39.039
announcer Santos was. She was in
TNA for quite a while. She was

580
00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:45.599
part of the Loocher Underground TV show
where it was very popular there. And

581
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:55.239
he's actually the wife of Brian Cage. So it's nice having another person in

582
00:52:55.320 --> 00:53:00.679
the aw family, an extended family. We got a lot of backstage personalities.

583
00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:07.880
Rene the Kent is married to John
Moxley. You've got now Melissa Santos

584
00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:15.960
married to Brian Cage. You have
Alicia Taut who is the girlfriend of MJF.

585
00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:20.519
So yeah, I mean you've got
a lot of a lot of families.

586
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:27.800
What was that you're breaking up?
Isn't one of them? D's daughter?

587
00:53:30.639 --> 00:53:35.960
Yeah, stepdaughter? Yeah, and
she's dating a big bill. I

588
00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:40.039
think they're married now, Okay,
yeah, yeah. So it's interesting how

589
00:53:40.079 --> 00:53:45.800
the backstage personalities are all well,
not all of them. What about our

590
00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:53.280
Katie Aurora, the newer one.
Uh, I don't know if she's dating

591
00:53:53.320 --> 00:53:58.760
her or in a relationship. It
seems like a pre pre requirement. Who

592
00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:02.119
are you dating? Uh? Nobody? Okay, Well we can't hire okay,

593
00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:07.400
yeah, I mean you don't want
to just have nepotism hires. You

594
00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:13.719
want to hire people on merit,
so hopefully he's good at being a backstage

595
00:54:13.760 --> 00:54:19.039
interviewer. I won't judge her just
because, but you know, you can't

596
00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:22.719
keep doing it too much because then
it starts to look kind of sketchy.

597
00:54:23.199 --> 00:54:28.480
All right, So before we go, I want to ask that anybody watch

598
00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:32.079
the Hologram mat was good. Oh
yeah, that is a good mess.

599
00:54:35.760 --> 00:54:37.800
Yeah, I saw clips of it. They brought out Gringo Loco, who

600
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:45.639
is like the greatest guy to take
Luca moves in, at least in America,

601
00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:51.119
so they had him doing the match. So of course he made everything

602
00:54:51.239 --> 00:54:54.800
look great because you can stand on
him. He can spin you around for

603
00:54:54.960 --> 00:55:00.800
like, you know, five minutes
at a time. Yeah, yeah,

604
00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:07.360
I mean, and they I think
a Loco has had several matches with Arabiz

605
00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:12.000
who is now Hologram, in the
past, so they've worked together, and

606
00:55:12.119 --> 00:55:17.039
it was important that they had Hologram
debut against somebody that he's worked with in

607
00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:21.360
the past. The other person that
I know of that he worked with in

608
00:55:21.440 --> 00:55:25.039
the past is Ray Phoenix, and
he was also on the show. But

609
00:55:25.840 --> 00:55:30.519
hey, to say the Hologram was
impressive would be an understatement. A lot

610
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:37.199
of people had a lot of positive
things to say about Hologram. Let me

611
00:55:37.280 --> 00:55:40.719
put it this way. He wasn't
a Shockmaster by any means, shape orformance.

612
00:55:43.679 --> 00:55:46.599
Now listen, I like this chunk
Master made the best entest ever.

613
00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:53.880
Yeah that I mean that is all. Most people only get fifteen minutes.

614
00:55:53.920 --> 00:56:00.800
He's gotten the Bears for twenty some
years now, so very long career.

615
00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:08.039
Oh my gosh, ah, who
was what's that talk boat? Yeah?

616
00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:19.519
Yeah, John wasn't it? That's
yeah? Okay, yeah, yeah,

617
00:56:21.519 --> 00:56:25.719
he he's he passed away a few
years ago. Uh. I probably at

618
00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:30.000
his death, Betty was like,
god, thank god. He probably said,

619
00:56:30.199 --> 00:56:34.800
I swear because he would have never
people are gonna be showing that clip

620
00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:44.000
of Shockmaster coming. What would he
come through a brick wall wall? They

621
00:56:44.159 --> 00:56:49.440
didn't. It was they put like
a two by four along the bottom that

622
00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:53.719
he didn't see because he had a
mask that barely had eye holes, and

623
00:56:53.880 --> 00:57:00.280
he just he just dove right through
it. I'll tell you what is just

624
00:57:01.880 --> 00:57:07.280
Shockmasters. I think he's still alive. I'm pretty sure Shockmaster's still alive.

625
00:57:08.559 --> 00:57:13.400
Yeah he is, Fred Otman.
He's sixty seven. He's still going.

626
00:57:14.159 --> 00:57:20.360
Oh maybe maybe it's though, right, Yeah, And they should hire him

627
00:57:20.719 --> 00:57:23.199
young gosh, they should, they
should bring him in for one show.

628
00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:30.239
Bring him for one show. Is
a shockmaster Darby Allen Coffin, drop him

629
00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:34.599
or something before he gets through the
you know something mean as part of the

630
00:57:34.760 --> 00:57:39.360
learning tree. Oh god, you
know, Like that's the thing with wrestling

631
00:57:39.480 --> 00:57:51.599
is even when it's the worst ever, that's still no Remember what's that the

632
00:57:51.679 --> 00:57:57.519
gobbledy gooker that had to be the
worst thing ever. I don't even tell

633
00:57:57.559 --> 00:58:07.440
what that that is? Cook the
kid. I love that. Yeah,

634
00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:14.400
there was a giant egg and then
for Thanksgiving, I guess a giant turkey

635
00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:20.440
dressed person came out of it and
he was all right, I'm so glad

636
00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:23.400
I missed that the Survivors he appeared
or something like that. I think it

637
00:58:23.559 --> 00:58:28.480
was. Oh boy, they made
and they made, they made that like

638
00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:34.440
the biggest thing that was ever gonna
happen, And it was a damn Every

639
00:58:34.480 --> 00:58:38.199
week it was on, it was
like there was interviews done next to it,

640
00:58:38.400 --> 00:58:42.159
and then it started happening and it
was that big bird and I thought,

641
00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:45.599
oh my god, So that like
the best that was probably the best

642
00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:55.719
sell job ever done. That was
try to treat it seriously, beautile days

643
00:58:57.840 --> 00:59:04.960
it danced around and stuff, and
yeah, well I we're talking about Big

644
00:59:05.000 --> 00:59:09.199
Bird on an aw podcast. We've
come full circle. I'll tell you what.

645
00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:15.159
Like, Yeah, you hate the
learning tree Holston. But one day,

646
00:59:15.960 --> 00:59:19.920
twenty years from now, you're going
to be looking back reminiscent. Twenty

647
00:59:20.039 --> 00:59:22.239
years from now, I plan on
be a dead. Let's just face it.

648
00:59:22.639 --> 00:59:27.960
I'm a man now. Maybe in
your hospital bed here, your family

649
00:59:28.000 --> 00:59:30.760
will be around you, and you'll
be talking about Chris Jericho. Yeah,

650
00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:32.960
they're gonna be like, oh my
god, not only is he dying,

651
00:59:34.039 --> 00:59:40.599
he's delirious too. Eddie and Jack
will come visit you. Is the Sockbasters

652
00:59:40.679 --> 00:59:45.800
still alive? I can see it
now. I can see me on my

653
00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:51.880
deathbed. You know. It's just
like I can't believe Julia Hart's fifty years

654
00:59:51.920 --> 00:59:59.239
old. Though this took an interesting
turn, Oh jeez, but anyway,

655
01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:07.679
when she was only eighteen, Oh
my god, but wow, twenty you

656
01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:12.880
got to make twenty eight years if
you want to. They'll be around when

657
01:00:12.920 --> 01:00:15.199
she's fifty. That's the goal.
That, that's the goal. I want

658
01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:21.840
to see Julia Hart turned fifty.
That I could die in peace, you

659
01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:23.760
know, but I want to be
buried with a shock Master mask. That's

660
01:00:24.039 --> 01:00:30.159
that's I got to put that in
my will, not in a shop,

661
01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:35.039
but I would. I want to
go like next to me, like it

662
01:00:35.119 --> 01:00:42.320
fell off, pumped in your arm. Whatever. But anyway, we're gonna

663
01:00:42.360 --> 01:00:47.039
wrap this up right now because we're
just we get goofy at the end of

664
01:00:47.079 --> 01:00:52.440
these podcasts. I'm sorry we do. Uh So anyway, we'll be back

665
01:00:52.480 --> 01:00:59.079
tomorrow night with all the talk where
we will review Blood of Gods. I'm

666
01:00:59.119 --> 01:01:01.760
kind of looking for I'm hoping that
we see some surprises, you know,

667
01:01:02.039 --> 01:01:08.679
because the card is just a other
than the Blood and Guts match and the

668
01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:14.159
hakaras Sheeta and Britt Baker match.
There's really nothing that stands out, but

669
01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:16.920
they can still be good, you
know what I mean. It's just nothing

670
01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:21.440
that stands out like, oh,
that's going to be good. And I

671
01:01:21.559 --> 01:01:27.960
hope that the Blood and Guts match
is actually good because I don't know,

672
01:01:29.400 --> 01:01:32.000
somebody said it or it just doesn't
have that feel to it this time.

673
01:01:34.719 --> 01:01:37.360
I don't know why. I guess
it's because they didn't really build a big

674
01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:40.039
story going into it, But that
doesn't mean it won't be a great match.

675
01:01:43.039 --> 01:01:45.239
Last few times, it's been like
a blood beewed, and this time

676
01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:47.840
it feels like a man type of
thing. I just I just think,

677
01:01:50.360 --> 01:01:53.239
you know, besides the hangman's swer
dynamic of it, I don't I don't

678
01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:58.039
see much into it. So who
do you see getting thrown off the top

679
01:01:58.079 --> 01:02:06.159
of the cage for each team?
For each team the derby of course?

680
01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:13.079
Well, yeah, yeah, he's
gonna throw himself off because we will.

681
01:02:13.559 --> 01:02:21.079
You'll get thrown on Max Caster,
maybe pretty teammate w What about on the

682
01:02:21.280 --> 01:02:30.000
team Elite. Yeah, it's gotta
be Jack, that's true. It would

683
01:02:30.039 --> 01:02:36.840
be cruel if you know, Okay, Kazuchika Okada. I can see him

684
01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:42.400
standing out the side of the cage
and yelling, bitch, Jesse falls,

685
01:02:44.800 --> 01:02:53.679
Oh my god, wow, we
will pay you never know it can happen,

686
01:02:53.800 --> 01:02:58.960
But we'll find out tomorrow during AW
Dynamite, Blood and Guts, and

687
01:02:59.079 --> 01:03:04.559
we'll talk about it it on All
Lead Talk for the a W Fan podcast

688
01:03:04.639 --> 01:03:09.800
team. This is Kelson is Alex. Good night, everybody, maby y'all.

689
01:03:10.559 --> 01:03:20.719
Bye, Eddie Kingston, wherever you
are. I think he said his beads It