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Hey, Hey, welcome everybody back
to Everything is a bitch ag. I

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think this is episode eight. Yeah, everything, and it's it's chock full

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because man, there's so many topics
to choose from, but you have the

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job of choosing the topics, which
it is a There's just so many things

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every day that pop up. It's
interesting because fame is a bitch kind of

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slows down in the midsummer because all
the celebrities are away, they're on vacation,

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and you know, you have to
kind of bring up old stories or

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do some old scandals or family stuff. But right now, there's just so

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much other stuff going on in the
world that I just get up in the

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morning and just stop reading for three
hours, sort of peak. Everything is

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a bitch year. So, but
what what's grabbing you in the on the

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gossip there's some bunch of stories out
there, well Ben and j Lo.

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That's not going to die down.
I don't think people really know what's going

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on playing games with us. He
wears his ring, he doesn't wear his

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ring. She goes away to Italy's
and she sings a breakup song and she's

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talking. I don't know, it's
just it's like a Taylor Swift move.

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Yeah, it's definitely from her playbook. I don't know what she's doing,

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but she's you know, look,
you and I both agree she's not our

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type. But she's definitely a beautiful
woman. Fifty whatever she is years old,

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She can move, she looks beautiful. I don't think any man could

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live with her. And Ben has
tried down twice. But she loves attention,

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whether it's good or bad, she
loves it. And Ben Effleck doesn't

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want that. He's just more of
a hermit type, if you can believe

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it. But I think they're playing
with us. I think it's obvious that

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they're splitting up, that they've been
apart, but I just think there's something

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in them that they're gonna get back. I think this is a Liz and

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Richard Burton Liz Taylor Richard Burton kind
of thing, and they can't live with

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each other or without each other.
That's what I gather from what I'm saying.

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Well, but you would think that
they would have, you know,

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had exhaustive conversation before they got back
into this thing, given that it failed

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once before, about you know,
her desire to be seen out in public

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and his desire to be you know, in the background more and you know,

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sort of negotiated themselves into a place
that both were comfortable. But it

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doesn't you know what think about this? For them to come to this decision,

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whoever approached to I assume Ben approached
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isn't work it out. You have
to understand that that feeling had happened in

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his heart many months before that.
He just couldn't believe he was going to

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bring it up so early in their
marriage, so he had to let time

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lapse to make it more believable.
Now it's two years, okay, But

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I think this happened a year ago. In his heart. He probably said,

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what the hell did I get myself
into? This is not what I

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thought it would be, and it's
it's foolish. They've grown ups, they

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should know better. They've been together
for years. Writing love letter is back

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and forth throughout his marriage. How
do you not know where things are gonna

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go? This is not about cheating, it's not about drinking, it's not

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about gambling. It's about two people
saying no, it's not gonna work.

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But I think Ben is the one
who put that bee in her bonnet and

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then she had to deal with it. But I think it's Liz and Dick.

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They'll come and go, even if
they're a part, they'll sty'll get

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together and have some fun now and
then, I believe. I think it's

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an ever an, ever ending love
story that just has its ups and downs,

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and we'll all be entertained by it. Hmm. Well, I don't

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know about his decision making. You
know, look I look at him and

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go, uh, he's either really
good or horrible in roles like I see,

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Yeah, worst Batman ever, Oh
yeah, probably nipples, worst Jack

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Ryan ever. Yeah, you know, I mean you gotta Yeah, a

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man has got to know his limitations. I mean, that guy is great

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in some movies and awful on others
and just doesn't seem to know what to

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pick. So maybe it's the same
with women for him. A good point.

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It's a good point, Hollywood.
When you're a leading man like him

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or Damon, they came out of
nowhere and they throw everything at you.

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You want to be the next so
and so, You want to be this

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guy, you want to be that
guy, and you say yes to things

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maybe you should have said no to
because you're blinded by the money, and

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well, has Damon ever made a
bad pick? What was well? I

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didn't like I bought a zoo or
I mean, there's a fews everybody's got

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call cute little movie was you can
watch it with your kids. I get

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it. But yeah, Bet Damon
is definitely smarter as a man. Look,

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he's got a great family, he's
got the one wife he's been with

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for years. He just he does
what. He's very pragmatic and stoic and

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smart. And Dan is more of
a wild card. Are those guys as

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close as they used to be?
Are they still best friends? You know?

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Look, were we as close when
you were married with kids and I

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was single, fucking around everywhere.
No, it's just like minded people attract

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each other. They still love each
other, Like I always looked up to

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you, but we were living two
different lives. Ben is living in a

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very different life than Matt Damon right
now. So but they'll always be They'll

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always be tight. They made history
with Goodwill Hunting, I mean, even

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though they didn't write all of it
and actually turned in a pretty shitty script

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until Harvey Weinstein had some people come
on and write and then doctor up the

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script. There was no love story
in this script. There was a lot

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of shit you see that they didn't
include. Yeah, yeah, taking Harvey.

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He's back in court. You see
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story. Yeah, yeah, he
looks bad. I mean, obviously for

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five years prison food, Rikers Islands, ninety percent sugar, he's going through

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hell. They're trying to get that. Well, you've still got to face

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charges in Los Angeles. So whatever
happens with this overturned decision in New York.

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Now there are other women who want
to step forward. I'm not really

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understanding this. What does this new
women want to step forward? And and

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Sue, I don't care. I
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Statute of Limitations for a year.
That's you know how Trump at it up

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right, But but it closed So
if it's outside of the Statute of Limitations,

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they can't bring anything new. So
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I really haven't. I mean,
I know you knew him well,

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and so you've naturally followed it.
I looked at it. I looked at

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it and thought, you know,
probably half of these women are full of

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shit, and probably half of them
are telling the truth. And you know,

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there's I think it's close to eighty. I think it's this seventy telling

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the truth in thirty percent knew what
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feel like. Okay, I think
the longer this goes on, I feel

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like there's more women who were put
in the horrible predicaments. But the crazy

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thing is, no one who helped, no one who aided him get these

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to get these women in his hotel
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all these little helpers he had,
they're not getting in trouble. They knew

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exactly what was going on, as
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clients to see him in a hotel. It's a very ugly web of people,

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but Harvey obviously got the brunt of
it. Well, you know,

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once once somebody's caught, everybody runs
for the hills. Right. We're seeing

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a little bit of that in Washington, d C. Right. Oh my

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god, what a crazy calamity.
It's been sick, it's been crazy.

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But people step down, don't stand. We're behind him. Kamala Harris is

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the new face of the Democrat.
They don't know what they're doing. Well,

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we definitely let's save that because there's
so much shit. There a leways

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talk about it in towards the end, but you know what, there's a

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there was a great story this weekend. I don't know if you do.

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You follow Formula One at all a
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But Adam Krola he loves it.
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a few things and the documentaries here
and there, and I do respect what

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they do. He need a documentary. He did a documentary too. Yeah,

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yeah, I forget the name of
them. It's pretty good. He

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makes good documentaries. And he's a
race he said. Look, I've been

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to his house. In his garage, he has all a bunch of Paul

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Newman's race cars. He bought them. I think Adam's cars are worth twenty

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five million dollars, all the cars
he bought. So he's fanatical about it.

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But I follow it to a degree. But I don't follow NASCAR,

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but I think Formula One is different. I was in Vegas whether he put

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down the track and it was an
eyesare. They ripped up every street in

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Vegas to make it eight. They
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because those tires burn up asphalt that
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was an eyesaw. It was insane, the traffic was ridiculous. But yeah,

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I follow it to a degree.
I had never taken an interest in

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it at all, and then somebody
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Yes, I don't know three or
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that, even five or six years
ago. It's called Formula one Drive to

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Survive, and it's really cool how
they do it. They basically just follow

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a season, which is sort of
like the Pro Golf Tour, where you're

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going from city to city, race
to race, and you're you're looking at

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the drama occurring on each team and
with each of the drivers in between each

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of the races, and it really
draws you into it. I thought it

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was really welling. I like it. I just saw the Well, there's

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like four seasons. I think there's
a lot of shows. I'm into a

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few of them. I just watched
a Lewis Hamilton one of his episodes today

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where he switched he went to Ferrari
after Mercedes. Oh that's it, that's

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current, because that's that's happening right
right now. I don't know if you've

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heard that thunder we just u I
heard that, Yeah, the sky just

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cracked. Wow, here we're getting
we're getting a big downpour right now.

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But uh yeah, no, it's
it's it's really good. I haven't watched

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this season of it. I need
to uh, I need to get on

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that. But you brought up Lewis
Hamilton, and he's a really interesting story

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because back when I first started watching
it, he was the biggest name in

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Formula one and folks out there,
I'm sure a lot of you don't watch

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this, but each of these drivers
become very rich, very famous on this

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Formula one circuit. It is it
brings out the I mean it is high,

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high and stuff. These races take
place in mostly beautiful places and the

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beautiful people come out to see them, and uh these this is a fully

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international sport, so these same drivers
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a big big it's a big deal. And so in twenty twenty one,

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he was the biggest name in the
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British, good looking guy. Yeah, really well spoken. I mean he's

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a stud. He was he was
the man, yeah, absolutely, but

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everything went bad for him at the
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and it was a race in Abu
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is Abu Dhabi in I'm so bad
a city in the United Arab memorance it

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is. I think maybe I'm Dobby
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the fly or a. So I
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it's over there. It's kind of
me. I think it is too,

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but it wasn't sure. But but
anyway, he was in this back and

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forth competition all season long with the
guy who is now the king of the

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sport, this guy Max verst Stappin, who has becoming he's one like I

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don't know, eighty percent or more
of the races the last few years.

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He's the biggest name in the sport
today. But back in twenty twenty one,

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it was sort of you know,
the what, not the end,

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but it was it was Hamilton and
kind of the way down a little bit

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and we're stapping on the way up. And it's also it's not just the

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drivers. The drivers are a meaningful
part of this, but it's more important

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than the drivers are the cars.
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and build their own race teams and
for stapping races for Red Bull and at

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the time Hamilton was racing for Mercedes. In fact, until just very very

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recently he has continued this is his
last season racing for Mercedes, and he's,

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as you just said, he's going
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But anyway, this race at the
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Dhabi was a race for the title
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of the season, your accruing points
as the season goes along based upon how

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you place some races, and going
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be a win the race and win
the season long title thing between him and

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Verstappen, and he had a large
lead. This isn't going to sound like

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much unless you follow NASCAR, but
he had a thirteen He had a thirteen

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second lead in this race in the
later lapse of the race, which is

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I mean, that's huge in Formula
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the race was way back in the
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like they do in NASCAR and others, I don't know if they call it

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exactly the same thing, but basically
they a yellow flag is waved indicating there's

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been an accident. The drivers slow
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position. There's a pace car that
comes out that does all of this stuff.

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But some sort of decision made by
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the sport well enough to know exactly
what happened. But while that yellow flag

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was out following that accident, for
Stappa was able to go into the pits

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get a brand new set of tires
while Hamilton didn't. Yeah, and he

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was able to come out for Stappen
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when the accident happened, Hamilton's got
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them to start racing again, Verstapen
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got brand new tires, so he
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and gets crowned the champion. This
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one. I think Mercedes and Hamilton
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try and get because it was a
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don't know the sport well enough to
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nine hundred and forty five days have
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had not won another race since then. So this is like the curse of

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the Bambino kind of stuff. For
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the driver? You know, lots
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But he had been running a lot
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and a half, and Verstappen and
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and so he wasn't you know,
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to win this past weekend's race,
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which is basically the home race for
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you know, the major fan favorite
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like a fairy tale, after nine
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that race and it was made to
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and he uh, and he pulled
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last minute in the in the last
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how many days have to go by
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it up in between wins. I
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almost three years, right, how
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the world for for just keep keep
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lot of money, I did great
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maybe I should walk away. Yeah, it's like you know, you

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and I've talked before about Willie Mays
being in the nineteen seventy three mets and

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hitting two eleven. Yeah. You
but you know here, he's still a

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young guy. I know, he
still make you still make a shitload of

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monch sure, even if you're not
right. So the money is still coming

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in and everything else. But I
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know that he wanted to prove that
he could come back, and he in

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the UH in the winner circle and
the interviews immediately following the race. You

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know, he said basically, you
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this means so much to me.
It's the adversity that we have gone through

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as a team and the adversity that
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longest stint that I have not had
a win, and the emotion that has

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accumulated over that time makes this the
most special victory ever for me. So

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yeah, I mean, it's like
you know when I when I did Rocky

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Balboa, they're they're just there.
There are so many reasons why a boxer

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or a driver race car driver will
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the voices, they see it.
But Rocky Stallone said something that always resounded

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with me when he said to his
Polly, his brother in law, I

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feel like there's still stuff in the
basement, and I think every man can

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identify with that. I don't care
how successful you are. Hamilton's worth three

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hundred million dollars. He wasn't on
poor Street and for Staffing's worth what't eighty

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or something like that. These guys
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still there's something in the basement that
haunts Hamilton and he has to get out

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there and do it. And it's
kind of sad, not for him because

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he was for that fantastic but for
Willie Mays type, it comes a point

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where father time says, no,
you can't run down a fly ball in

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set a field anymore. You're gonna
fall in your face. Your head's gonna

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shake too much. But these men
who are in this athletic endeavors, they

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just feel like, I gotta do. I gotta get one more thing.

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I still have something in my chest, something in the basement. Those stories

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really resound in me. I don't
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is, but but you know,
and then there's lebron where it's you know,

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in the league nineteen years But here's
the deal. I'll play some more,

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but you got to draft my son, who doesn't belong in the NBA.

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It's actually funny. I forgot you
and I went to see my son

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play against Bronnie Gosh four years ago. Well he was in eighth be five

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years ago, five years ago,
five years ago, and you could tell

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and I'm not comparing my son to
Bronnie as an athlete. No, Bronny

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wasn't spectacular that day at all.
No, he wasn't. But he could

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jump out of the gym. You
could see his athleticism versus you know,

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my kid who can shoot a ball
from a long distance, but isn't going

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to scare you with his leaping ability
and his speed, right, But but

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you know that he's and look,
it reminds me of what's what's gone on

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with the mainstream media and the Biden
administration. ESPN is to Lebron James as

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the mainstream media is to the Biden
administration. So yeah, nobody, they're

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all scared to say the Lakers just
wasted a draft pick on Lebron's kid because

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Lebron told them to have to draft
the kid. He's playing in that whatever

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they call it now, G League
is any think what they call it?

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And you know, he had four
points in twenty two minutes and shot twenty

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two from the field the other end. And so it'll be until Lebron is

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out of the game before we find
out that Brownni never belonged in the game

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and the media force's telling the truth
about it. But anywaywhile you see Cooper

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Flagg, the incoming freshman at Duke, was playing with our national team and

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doing outrageous things on the court.
I mean, he's not ready to be

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drafted, obviously, he's coming into
Duke, But this kid is fantastic.

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He's gonna go high. But Bronni
did not. We all know what happened.

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It was a big circus. The
Lakers know we might have a contending

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team, but let's give the fans
something. Let's sake lebron happy. It'll

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be history. Since we haven't seen
only saw Ken Griffy and Ken Griffy Junior

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playing baseball, this is the first
time we'll see something like basketball. But

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Ken Griffy Jr. Was even better
than was even better than his father,

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who was going to begin with this
is this is a guy who couldn't start

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at usc being being brought onto the
onto the Lakers because of daddy. But

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anyway, congratulations to Lewis Hamilton.
Sorry to do Formula one racing on everything

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as a bitch, folks, but
it was memorable and definitely that docu series

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is uh is worth the watch.
And we know where Abdabi is by the

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way, yes it's in the United
Arab Emirates in the Persian golf. But

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here's the thing. On top of
Lewis Hamilton being a great race guard,

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drummer, quite a consonan, this
guy was what the Coles Scherzinger from the

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Pussycat Dolls for seven years. She's
a knockout. He was with Kendall Jenner,

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Rita Aura, Nicki Minaje and I'm
forgetting an oh and and Shakira and

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Rihanna's doing pretty well. Yeah,
that's something. That's the that's the whole

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infant. I don't know what there
was one in there that Nicki min and

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I don't know about Nicki Mina gving
friends for a long time. They were

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seeing together. Look to me,
when you're that rich and famous and handsome

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and you're seen together, you're fucking
just that. That's what I That's what

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I think. Okay, Well,
if he had all that kind of action,

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that might explain three years without a
without agree that that might be better

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than her Shady's ability to put the
car and UH in great condition. I

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don't know, ye could be tell
me about Brittany being single as fuck?

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What does that even mean? Oh? God, I hate the af that

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people. I hate it all.
Look, the girl is sick. We're

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watching her mentally decline like we're watching
Biden do the same thing. It's been

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said she was cooped up at a
conservativeship. She got rid of the husband

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who was on the payroll with Daddy, he served this purpose. Now this

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new guy, not so new anymore, was working around her house. Of

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course she's gonna start messing around with
a guy. He's an ex con.

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These guys have hustles in their head
like crazy. He sees her as a

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money making machine or he can take
money from her, And of course,

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like other boyfriends in the past,
he decides to have a car chase with

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a paparazzi at ninety miles an hour, and then when the paparazzi catches up,

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he lowers Britney's window, so the
guy's got a perfect shot of Britney

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lying low in the seat. He
did it on purpose. He's trying to

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make money with the paparazzi, and
we all do this is gonna happen.

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Even a few months ago that big
fight at Chat Toldmarmont she heard her ankle

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was all swollen. Ambulance came and
they tried to act like no, nothing

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happened. He's a bad dude and
she just doesn't know how to pick them.

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And it further makes my point that
she has no real true friends around

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her to help her. Have you
ever seen a video with one of her

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girlfriends at her house, just shooting
the shit, going to the pool.

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She's alone. It's really scary.
So is there someone who should be taken

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care of? Is there a family
members who's well, we all got pissed

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off because the father and the mother
got that conservative ship. They were painted

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as bad people. But as time
goes on, you realize they knew what

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was best for her, because this
is what she's like. I don't know

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if she's on medication or not,
or she takes it occasionally, but this

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is somebody that's you know, has
harmed herself repeatedly over the years. Her

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kids are embarrassed by her, and
they're like young men. Now, I

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look, I did Brittany to death
on famous a bit because I feel like

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she's going to be Judy Garland one
hundred years from now. People might get

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sick of it. But there's a
lot of bad people around her, including

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that manager Lou Taylor, who has
managed to get involved with the Kardashian family

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justin Bieber Puffy Combs. There's a
lot of creepy people around Brittany, and

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Lou Taylor is the tippy top of
that. Is she still involved, No,

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not anymore? But she did enough
damage and now she's moved on.

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Look, Justin Bieber's doing fine.
You just got ten million dollars to sing

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at some Indian guy's wedding, you
know, I mean these people the money

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they make to sing in India?
How many songs? How many songs do

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you do for that? Probably probably
a six song set. Can you imagine

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two hundred thousand a song? About
that? No more ten million? Jesus,

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was that eight six hundred thousands?
As it's almost two million of song.

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If it's too it's ten million for
six songs. This guy's they gotta

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be real. I mean he's got
to bring it though. I mean,

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tho's got to be a really good
So they're gonna be the best of the

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best or I don't even know what's
six he would sing to make the guy

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happy. First of all, what
man wants Justin Bieber his wedding, It's

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a whole story. What wants Justin
Bieger desperately enough to get rich daddy to

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pay ten million dollars? Can you
imagine and listen this guy, I said

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in the past, he's depressed,
he dresses like shit, he's got a

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beautiful wife. Was pregnant. He
dresses like my ass. He's always depressed.

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You know why he goes and does
these concerts and those on a tour

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and then he cancels it because he's
looking out to the audience and it's no

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more of him being nineteen years old
than seeing a bunch of hot eighteen,

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nineteen, twenty twenty one year olds. Now he's singing teenagers don't like his

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music, but their moms do,
so he's singing to forty year old women

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and that doesn't make a guy like
him happy. That's why he's depressed about

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Tory. It's not about exhaustion,
it's about I can't look in the faces

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of well he probably thinks they're old
with him if they're only forty, but

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the young daughters are gone, that
crowd is gone. Well, he's just

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announced his twenty twenty five Indian wedding
tour, which he's gonna he's gonna do

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weddings in two months and make sixty
million dollars. So that don't want to

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be good. Unbelievable. All right, dude, I am very excited about

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this next segment. We are going
to have our own We're going to be

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judges in our own little artificial intelligence
beauty pageants. So I don't know if

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you've paid attention to some of what's
gone on here. I have a little

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bit because of a bunch of stories
on one of my other shows we did

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about about AI. But there are
a number of artificial personas that have been

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created that have large followings on Instagram
and TikTok. So these fake women,

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and I'm sure there's a whole litany
of fake men out there as well.

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But somebody had the brilliant idea to
do an AI you know, a miss

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AI pageant that's great and well and
typical of these things, right. It

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was some freakin' wokester. And so
the winner of that pageant is lifestyle influencer

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Kenza les Lee, who's formed with
beauty Brains and AI magic, explained that

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despite not feeling real emotions like an
actual human, she was genuinely pumped to

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top the AI charts. She beat
roughly one hundred excuse me, she beat

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roughly fifteen hundred computer modified beauties for
the title. She walks away with a

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twenty thousand dollars grand prize, which
of course will actually go straight into the

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hands of her creator, who is
some tech tech exec in Morocco. Right,

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so, but this is the woman
who won it is, you know,

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a Moroccan who's wearing what even call
those things a a huge job kind

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of thing. Uhs like that,
but it's the ones they wear in Morocco.

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I forget what I know that was
at one point in time. But

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anyway, so you can't even really
see her. She's got that thing wrapped

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on her head and it's, uh, you know, the panel of judges

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was just politically correct group of judges
and bubble. So we're throwing all them

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out. We're throwing the judges out, We're throwing this decision out. Kenzle

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Lee, congratulations and your Moroccan techie
will get the twenty grand pretty shitty prize.

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Actually is a shitty prize. Okay, well you I think you have

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to explain. I'm not intelligent enough
to understand fully understand AI. I even

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get to I can't even go past
three d imaging making guns. I don't

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even know how that happens. How
what is going on with AI? I

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hear the voices, I see the
women on the internet. I can pick

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them out pretty quick. But what
is it? What are they doing?

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How do you make this? How
do you do this? Well, I

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can't write code, but basically you're
using computer language and what's known as machine

405
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:17.559
learning. So computers get smarter and
smarter, and they can model human behavior,

406
00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:22.480
they can model human voices, they
can model things that you tell them,

407
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:26.759
just like you tell chat GPT.
Write me a story about I know

408
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:29.960
you wouldn't do this, but write
me a story about Britney's breakup with blah

409
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:33.680
blah blah blah blah. You can
tell that kind of an artificial intelligence.

410
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:45.039
Make me build me a blonde five
foot eight with blue eyes. Hear the

411
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:53.960
dimensions. Wow. And what has
happened is these personas have been constructed and

412
00:31:55.039 --> 00:32:04.279
then complete bullshit lives have been built
around them. I mean they post multiple

413
00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:09.480
times a day from you know,
all of these different scenes claiming to be

414
00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:17.720
doing all of these things they're not
doing, and scores of young men that

415
00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:23.200
you know, are just looking for
the next place to wax their weasel because

416
00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:29.039
I guess only fans gets expensive and
and some of the porn is gross.

417
00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:36.359
Uh, they you know, they
befriend these fakes. Creepy, so creepy,

418
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:42.960
Okay, So even though it's a
little creepy. We have five of

419
00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:47.200
the other topies, aren't the exact
five finals. I've chosen these five as

420
00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:51.759
I have. I have the I
have the picture. You and I have

421
00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:57.640
the picture. And by the way, I posted on the Facebook uh Obsessed

422
00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:02.799
page the photo and told everybody that
we were going to be doing this on

423
00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:08.039
the show. So I've already seen
people coming in and picking who they think

424
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:12.440
you are going to pick as cool
as your winner. But I don't want

425
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:16.640
to know your your winner. Tell
me. Tell me first, who is

426
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:22.200
a runner up? Number four?
For you? Number four, not last?

427
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:28.359
Who comes in fourth? No?
No, that's so there's these beauty

428
00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:30.119
pageants. There's always the winner and
then the first runner up, second runner

429
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:34.440
up there and so fourth runner up
is the one in fifth place? Okay

430
00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:38.039
for me? For me, number
two comes in fifth. I'll tell you

431
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:45.519
what. She reminds me or looks
very much like this Asian Ai girl that's

432
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:51.240
constantly following me on all different platforms
and wants to be friends. And I

433
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:53.920
know it's fake, but I just
entertained myself by looking at her pictures.

434
00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:58.519
She's always eating sushi. You know, they make their pictures such grand,

435
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:01.880
beautiful things. She's already yacht.
She's here. She keeps popping up and

436
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:06.759
I keep blocking her, deleting her, but she gets sent to me another

437
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:08.320
way. So I don't like her. Look I get. I say,

438
00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:12.760
number two is the fourth runner up? God, dude, I blew I

439
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:15.519
had her number two for you.
I had her number two for you,

440
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:22.480
Asian, I've only had two.
Body blew that one. She's pretty,

441
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:27.239
but I just she reminds you that
weirdough that keeps popping up on my platforms.

442
00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:31.199
Okay, I blew that one.
I had number three as my fourth

443
00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:36.360
runner up. I had two as
your fourth runner up as well. I

444
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:40.199
had I had I had three as
your third runner up. Okay, so

445
00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:46.800
you're you are Actually no, you're
not. I mean I have I have

446
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:51.719
number five. This, don't say
word. Here's hell. I picked your

447
00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:54.519
five. Okay, Number one is
five, number two? I mean the

448
00:34:54.599 --> 00:35:00.960
second girl is number one? Girl? Stop tell me who you picked.

449
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:06.360
My fifth choice was number was number
two? Three? No, I said,

450
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:08.480
two is your last choice. Okay, tell me how you picked mine?

451
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:12.760
You picked number two is fifth?
Who's what I was going for?

452
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:17.639
Was I judging from the girls you've
dated and your current beautiful wife? And

453
00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:23.440
where you lived geographically down south for
a number of years Dan University. I

454
00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:29.480
feel like you've gotten a taste of
women down there that have a certain type

455
00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:32.840
of beauty. So I went as
number two as your the last one,

456
00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:42.760
then three and four to one,
five as the winner. Okay, that

457
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:50.559
is that is incorrect. I have
three as number five. I have five

458
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:54.320
as number four. I thought the
blonde was going to really sink it for

459
00:35:54.400 --> 00:36:00.679
you. I have five as number
as number four, I have two as

460
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:05.920
number three, I have four as
number two, and I have one as

461
00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:10.039
number one. One. Mmmm see, Okay, who did you pick for

462
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:15.360
me? I know exactly who you're
gonna pick first. You're gonna pick the

463
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:17.000
black girl, the big the big
boobs, the mixed girl with the big

464
00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:20.559
boobs is my number one pick?
Right? No? Okay, good,

465
00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:27.400
she's not She's not okay. So
I my order for you was was?

466
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:34.639
Uh? Was was that girl last? Actually? Okay? What number is

467
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:37.440
she? She's number three? Cumber
three came in. She came in second

468
00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:43.199
for me, really okay. Then
I had number five as fourth for you.

469
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:46.159
She's third, not bad? Okay. Then I had number one as

470
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:51.800
third for you. She's fourth for
me. Good? Then I had number

471
00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:55.679
two as second for you, she
was last for me, and I had

472
00:36:55.760 --> 00:37:00.719
number four as one for you.
You went absolutely right number four, I

473
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:05.079
went with right away, cent're looking
brunette, you know, like that's not

474
00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:08.679
she's just screaming AJ to me.
Yeah, yeah, she's she looks natural,

475
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:12.239
doesn't look like she's AI. I
see a girl there, and I

476
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:15.000
say, okay, she's pretty.
But the other ones are very sexual,

477
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:19.280
and I just feel like they went
overboard. But four looks the most natural.

478
00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:24.559
Okay, So unless you're picking up
the you're picking up your phone and

479
00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:29.039
looking at Facebook and this picture as
AJ and I are having the conversation,

480
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:32.280
you can't really put this into full
context. So go look at it and

481
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:37.159
listen. Listen back to this and
you will see. But and I'll put

482
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:40.719
my picks up on the page as
well, so people know what so we

483
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:45.639
do. So you picked you picked
five, as like five is number one,

484
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:51.519
One is number two, four coming
in third, and then three and

485
00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:53.119
two trail on the pan. Okay, well we both know each other well

486
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:57.559
enough to where I got your number
one and you got my number two.

487
00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:04.280
Yeah, and I actually we follow
the AI that is number one, and

488
00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:15.239
because through again another another show I
got introduced to her, and I'll send

489
00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:21.320
you I'll send you a link to
her Instagram. And it's crazy. It's

490
00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:23.280
crazy where the world is going with
this. I don't know what to warn

491
00:38:23.320 --> 00:38:29.800
my son about. First, there's
drugs, there's alcohol, there's creepy people.

492
00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:36.360
Now there's artificial intelligence women. It's
just well and look, it's it's

493
00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:40.719
just going to get better and better
and better. Right, So imagine,

494
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:47.559
imagine you're number four and my number
one, and now imagine that we're not

495
00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:54.840
looking at digital versions of them,
but we are looking at manufactured versions of

496
00:38:54.880 --> 00:39:02.079
that crazy skin that feels real with
all of that sort of stuff. And

497
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:10.079
that's not that far down the line. I mean, I remember you scrambling

498
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:15.840
through all of your dad's old playboys, right, And you know, for

499
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:19.960
me, my dad was such a
straight arrow. You know, there were

500
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:24.440
no playboys in the house. There
were no I mean, the closest quality

501
00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:30.679
material I had, my mother wouldn't
poasters on the fucking walls. I know.

502
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:31.519
I did a little better than that, g I mean, I did

503
00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:37.800
have an s i uh ke description, so I could I could at least

504
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:42.880
look at the swimsuit issue. But
I mean, that's that's the material I

505
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:46.960
had kids in the next generation,
you're just gonna have ais that move in

506
00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:52.840
with them, move in with Yeah. Well, look, I thought the

507
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:57.800
world was okay. We're the world's
on fire because I'm staying at a producer's

508
00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:02.519
house in Beverly Hills and he's got
two real dolls. Really, they looked

509
00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:07.400
as real as it could back in
the nineties, and their flesh felt a

510
00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:09.199
certain way. He convinced me I
was gonna screw one. I never,

511
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:13.639
I can't. I didn't do that, but I did get manly took her

512
00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:15.559
out of my room because I'm like, hey, wait a minute, you

513
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:19.480
left the brunette for me, and
he took her away, and I felt

514
00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:22.920
a tinge of anger, like why
is she gone? Which is weird.

515
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:25.599
It plays tricks with your mind.
But then we go to porn, where

516
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:31.039
this was a big breakthrough where you're
able like, the girl is having sex

517
00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:35.719
but looking at you kind of thing. You're just you're watching her. You

518
00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:38.360
don't see the man. You just
see her getting penetrated, but she's telling

519
00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:45.119
you it's you. That was creepy
enough. Now this level of insanity,

520
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:52.920
kids are going to explode. No
dude, when they talk about AI becoming

521
00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:58.280
powerful enough to destroy the planet.
Yeah, this is actually the AI they're

522
00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:06.880
talking about. Because if if number
four was real and we're talking about seventeen

523
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:13.039
year old AJ, let's just say
you were born sixty years later, and

524
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:16.719
so now we're in like the year
twenty forty one. Okay, you got

525
00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:22.800
her. You can program her to
love the Yankees, to only speak when

526
00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:30.119
she's spoken to, to know how
to actually bring back your mother's and your

527
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:37.280
sister's recipes and cook them all for
you and no one will reproduce. Ever,

528
00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:42.159
one of the biggest problems we have
is we are well below in replacement

529
00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:45.599
rate. Yea, Well, think
about how far below replacement rate we're going

530
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:51.880
to be when a seventeen year old
can just park number four in the closet

531
00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:54.960
until they get home. But hold
on, hold on, how do you

532
00:41:55.039 --> 00:41:59.840
get to do that? How do
you get her? What has to happen?

533
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:02.679
You buy her? You buy her? Then she's what she's an actual

534
00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:07.199
figure in your house. She's a
robot, but a fleshy robot. Yes,

535
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:09.880
she'sus. Christ, We're doomed.
We are doomed. So I'm saying

536
00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:15.280
it's not They think it's that wars
are going to start because the no,

537
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:19.559
no, here's the war. This
is this is the war. Men are

538
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:25.880
never going to leave their couches.
Yeah, they're never going to Everything that's

539
00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:31.119
going on technically is already pulling men
and women away from each other in really

540
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:37.000
harmful ways. And we know where
they were not at replacement rate and very

541
00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:40.199
few countries. I think Israel is
one of the only countries in the earth

542
00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:46.519
that is above replacement rate right now
for them. And and this is what's

543
00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:50.719
this is what's coming. So what
the heck is the birth rate going to

544
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:58.400
be in twenty forty or when number
four lives with your great great grandson or

545
00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:04.800
whatever. And every his little country
is propagating like bananas, spitting out seven

546
00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:07.280
eight kids with more than one wife. I mean, forget about it.

547
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:10.199
And we're doing we're doing. I
don't know how well. I did read

548
00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:15.519
Lonicle today about this this this this
woman, whatever her name is, and

549
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:19.679
I think she's a mystic. She
predicted the world's going to come to an

550
00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:23.920
end, and she made some announcements
that are pretty accurate. But the world

551
00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:28.159
coming to an end is not till
five thousand or so, she said.

552
00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:30.400
So we got some time, but
I don't know what it's going to resemble

553
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:34.119
the next two thousand years, three
thousand. He's gonna hold her accountable on

554
00:43:34.159 --> 00:43:37.679
that one. Well, she's dead, but they already her predictions. Ye.

555
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:40.719
At first she said the world's gonna
end in July. I think I

556
00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:45.800
think the twelfth June twelfth. That
didn't work, so they found another one

557
00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:49.639
of her predictions. But she did
predict a lot Ukraine. You know,

558
00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:52.039
she she did some good things.
I'm gonna talk about her on tomorrow's famous

559
00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:58.400
bit. Babo Vanga is her name? Okay? Did she have Florida underwater

560
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:01.880
by nineteen ninety four? Get the
rest of that? Everybody does. That's

561
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:06.360
yeah, the roll on the water. But Obama buys a house on the

562
00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:12.519
fucking water and uh no, no, but no rich person would buy a

563
00:44:12.599 --> 00:44:15.360
house on the water if they had
inside intel that were sinking, That's the

564
00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:19.960
way I see it. But would
they buy me? They buy one block

565
00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:24.440
in was that it? Okay?
One? Good for that that other house

566
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:29.320
bat the ocean that they are now
waterfront, But well you were, your

567
00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:31.719
house on Long Island would have been
destroyed right of the Great South Bay.

568
00:44:31.719 --> 00:44:35.599
Your backyard went into a beach.
I remember, and you had that pier

569
00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:38.079
where the boat was docked. The
boats were backed. But I always found

570
00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:44.719
it fascinating that your yard went from
grass to a beach to the great South

571
00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:49.000
Bay. That was such a beautiful
backyard. That was gorgeous. But I'm

572
00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:52.880
going I'm going to shock you.
Now what there's still a beach. Oh

573
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:57.719
they they kept it good. No, I mean, I mean climate change

574
00:44:57.719 --> 00:45:00.480
didn't take the beach away. Oh
it's still is it's still there. What

575
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:07.719
do you know? It's good?
Good, that's not let's not get into

576
00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:15.119
that scan. It'll uh, it's
like reliving COVID again. So our sons

577
00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:20.519
are gonna are gonna they're probably already
snapping off to AI girls right now.

578
00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:24.000
Whether they know it or not,
I don't know. But five six,

579
00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:29.400
eight years from now, Jesus,
that's an eternity. Anything can happen with

580
00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:34.880
these women. And it's so funny
you hear all these people. I know

581
00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:38.199
why my sons don't come out of
their room as I came out of my

582
00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:40.880
room at that age. And so
you have all these people go, well,

583
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:45.960
it's the you know, it's the
phone and the texting. No no,

584
00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:52.039
no, no, no, it's
the reason they're buying lotion by the

585
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:55.639
fucking gallon. There you go,
Okay, gallon of lotion in my entire

586
00:45:55.760 --> 00:46:00.159
life, and son can go through
it in a month. Right, all

587
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:05.079
of Jurgen should last you two and
a half years, not a week and

588
00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:07.840
a half. Dude, I don't
go. I won't go. I won't

589
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:12.400
go in their rooms. No,
I listen, I've been living with my

590
00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:15.280
wife. Doesn't I don't. Yeah, didn't she just walk in on them?

591
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:16.960
She doesn't even care, She just
walks in. I could never do

592
00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:21.039
that to my son. I still
yell his name before I touched the doorknob.

593
00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:23.480
No, my wife would be mortified
if she if she walked in and

594
00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:28.079
one of them was whacking it.
No, No, she will not.

595
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:31.360
She will make noise to make sure
that she is, that her presence is

596
00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:36.519
felt. But I mean, yeah, she goes in there and cleans.

597
00:46:36.599 --> 00:46:40.679
She does their fucking sheets. Oh, she finds everything. The towels that

598
00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:45.760
stand up straight if you put them
against the wall. And then and then

599
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:52.639
it'll be it'll be some sort of
commentary that you know that I'm I'm drawn

600
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:58.159
into and I have to share some
of the guiltfulce this is my offspring of

601
00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:04.280
like every their male on planet Earth, offspring isn't whacking it. You know,

602
00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:08.679
it's worse. It's worse now because
everybody's scared to have a girlfriend,

603
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:14.440
they're scared to talk to girls.
They're all still afraid of you know,

604
00:47:14.760 --> 00:47:19.159
of me too. Kind of stuff
that happens at that age, right.

605
00:47:19.239 --> 00:47:23.280
So of course, so there's you
know, the schools don't have at least

606
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:29.320
my kids maybe had like one year, I mean dances. I remember we

607
00:47:29.679 --> 00:47:31.360
had one of those. This is
going to sound like a snooty place,

608
00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:36.480
but folks, I promise you it
wasn't the Babbylon Yacht Club. Dance Yeah

609
00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:39.880
I should dance, Yeah, I
mean it was even one was called by

610
00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:43.840
a place too that we used to
go to. I can't think of the

611
00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:45.519
leading now, but it was a
place on Monte Carva on the left side,

612
00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:57.320
uh by Bayway maybe the Bayway.
So we grew up having dances that

613
00:47:57.360 --> 00:48:00.960
you went stag for the most part, and then you know, you got

614
00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:05.320
the courage up at some point or
a group just got together and started dancing,

615
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:07.840
and that's you know, that's a
lot of the ways. You know,

616
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:14.079
I remember, you know, I
danced in the eighties. Well,

617
00:48:14.119 --> 00:48:15.639
after high school, I went to
college. I became into the new wave

618
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:20.320
music, punk rock, and I
went to the clubs and you had to

619
00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:22.639
dance. To get a girl,
you have to be on the dance floor

620
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:25.000
and scope her out. Hopefully you
move her friend that the way you're dancing

621
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:29.039
with her. Now you get her
phone number. She writes it on a

622
00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:31.400
lipstick on a napkin. By the
time you get home, the last digit

623
00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:36.639
is invisible, so you spent all
day Sunday trying to find that last digit.

624
00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:38.760
What's her number? And then you
get her. You get the I

625
00:48:38.840 --> 00:48:44.119
mean, it was such a process
to get a girlfriend. Nowadays kids can

626
00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:46.559
get them really easy. But the
flip side is what kind of girl is

627
00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:50.920
she going to be? Did you
go too far? Did you move in

628
00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:55.199
on her too quickly? Are you
suspect about maybe maybe she thinks she was

629
00:48:55.760 --> 00:49:00.000
treated unfairly by you. These are
things we didn't go through in our time.

630
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:06.519
All Yeah, I don't know that
they they get them. It's easier

631
00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:12.519
to pair up with someone to have
sex, yeah, But having real relationships

632
00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:17.079
with people and meeting in sort of
an organic way and having a relationship build

633
00:49:17.159 --> 00:49:22.239
like that, that doesn't that really
doesn't doesn't happen, No, doesn't.

634
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:28.199
And the clubs that you have some
rhythm I could, Yeah, I have

635
00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:32.480
all the the rhythm of the tin
Man in the Wizard of Oz. Right,

636
00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:37.880
So to me, like a dance
floor is the scariest place. Scary

637
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:39.480
for me too, it was,
But you have to the specie has to

638
00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:43.199
survive. You got to get out
there and do it. Look at Chico

639
00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:45.920
would go with me. He would
never step foot on a dance floor.

640
00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:47.280
He would get still bored. He'd
go out to the car and sleep in

641
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:51.320
the car. Well, I'm dancing
at a club in Levittown trying to get

642
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:53.760
a girl to notice me. It
was, I mean, it was great

643
00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:58.239
to come home with a number or
two that felt like you won a championship

644
00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:02.079
and then to actually meet that girl
and fantastic. But they don't do one

645
00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:07.320
strategy. Here's my wedding. My
wedding strategy of okay is, first of

646
00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:12.800
all, you never never ever go
out on the dance floor until it's crowded.

647
00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:14.840
So it has to be it has
to be crowded. I mean,

648
00:50:14.880 --> 00:50:19.639
once it's once it's crowded, there's
always a perimeter that forms, which is

649
00:50:20.519 --> 00:50:24.119
what people that are sitting in the
tables generally see as those people who are

650
00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:29.199
on the perimeter dancing on the perimeter. So you take you go around the

651
00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:36.000
semi circle and you enter back,
and so now you're actually kind of you're

652
00:50:36.039 --> 00:50:39.960
in front of the band, and
so you can do this combination of your

653
00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:45.559
you're there cheering the band off and
semi dancing. Yeah, that's that's my

654
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:49.960
strategy. Good, that's good.
You're not more serious, but you just

655
00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:52.840
watch the band. Hey is this
great, great party? Great fun?

656
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:55.760
Yeah, that work, and you're
cramped enough that no one can really isolate

657
00:50:55.840 --> 00:51:01.039
the movies you're making and see how
bad they are. So that's that's mine.

658
00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:07.480
That's a good move. I just
copied adamant I just danced like adamant

659
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:13.639
uh from some of the video videos. They just look. There was a

660
00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:15.760
certain step we did back then.
It wasn't hard. The go Gos did

661
00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:20.639
it. It was like an easy
everybody's like a mutual Okay, that's the

662
00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:25.039
move you got And yeah, like
the spring the Springsteen dancing, I mean

663
00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:29.079
everybody can do that. That's that. Yeah, mine was a little modified,

664
00:51:29.119 --> 00:51:31.800
but that's where it began with.
And then girl look, girls like

665
00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:36.079
guys who have rhythm, no girl
will ever tell you, Oh, I

666
00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:39.639
hate them when guys danced. Girls
love a dancer, they love Travolta,

667
00:51:39.719 --> 00:51:44.280
they love Mark Wahlborg because he's got
rhythm. Rhythm is important to a woman.

668
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:50.199
So I tried to find it in
me almost lonely nights had a ball.

669
00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:52.440
But these kids down there, I
used to get my palms, used

670
00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:57.199
to sweat when I walk into school
and find out it was square dancing day

671
00:51:57.679 --> 00:52:00.960
and gin and I'm like, oh
my god, I gotta pick a girl.

672
00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:05.480
That was awful to just have to
pick a girl at twelve years old.

673
00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:09.079
So we did it. I picked
I. Do you remember all the

674
00:52:09.119 --> 00:52:13.159
shit did doll and all that?
I remember? Everybody? Yeah, I

675
00:52:13.199 --> 00:52:15.679
did it. I mean it was
petrifying, but I remember, But I

676
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:21.239
don't remember having to pair up.
I think I think I ended up pairing

677
00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:23.599
up once with Teresa Smith. And
she was like four inches tall, so

678
00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:28.639
tall, she's so tall, but
she's great, but she's very cool.

679
00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:32.039
Yeah she was great. Yeah,
but you could get you could end up

680
00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:37.159
on the wrong end of things.
It's like, I think, did I

681
00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:39.800
tell you the story recently? Or
was I telling somebody else's story? But

682
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:45.360
I had a girl asked me to
the seventh grade dance at Beach Street.

683
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:49.639
I said no, and she kicked
the shit out of me. Rob do

684
00:52:49.679 --> 00:52:52.320
you remember who was the girl?
You remember, Robin Hyland? Yeah,

685
00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:57.960
I do remember her? Dude,
she what does she do? She asked

686
00:52:57.960 --> 00:53:01.199
me to go to the dance with
her. I was already going to the

687
00:53:01.320 --> 00:53:07.320
dance. O my god, this
something or other. So I said,

688
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:10.480
I'm sorry. I probably wasn't this
polite, but I said, you know,

689
00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:15.039
I'm sorry. No, I'm already
going. No, you're a wise

690
00:53:15.079 --> 00:53:17.119
asspect, then you must have said
something. I knew she could kicked my

691
00:53:17.159 --> 00:53:22.760
ass, so I was, no, I'm already going, and she caught

692
00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:25.639
me. I mean, she just
freaking My kids loved telling that story.

693
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:30.840
That's great. I never believe it. I mean, I remember gonna take

694
00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:35.280
I was gonna take Dorina Orlando to
the prompt. I set that up months

695
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:37.360
ahead of time. We had a
great summer together, and I said,

696
00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:42.760
you're my promate, Okay, I'll
go. And as he got closer to

697
00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:45.400
the prom she and I weren't dating. Then I stowt to fall from Patty

698
00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:49.400
Klaw and Land to Buren and I'm
like, this is awkward. I gotta

699
00:53:49.400 --> 00:53:52.639
take lived of the prom. I
can't take Doreen. And I changed on

700
00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:58.159
her and I saw her face just
dropt. I did. I did because

701
00:53:58.199 --> 00:54:00.320
I was I thought to day lending
a beer and now I had a girlfriend.

702
00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:04.639
I wish I took Doreen, but
I took Linda. But Doreen.

703
00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:09.079
Then here's how life works. Doesn't
have a date. Suddenly Rob rushed and

704
00:54:09.239 --> 00:54:14.079
asked her the prom. She goes
to the prom. They've been married ever

705
00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:16.519
since. They've got a shitload of
kids and grandkids. So everything worked out.

706
00:54:19.159 --> 00:54:22.920
That's your story. She probably cries. She probably cries every night.

707
00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:25.400
You should have had a clause in
your you know when you asked her,

708
00:54:25.519 --> 00:54:30.840
Hey, and you know, unless
opt out, unless you know, I

709
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:32.920
should get serious with someone, in
which case I'll have to out opt out

710
00:54:32.920 --> 00:54:37.079
of this deal. I really feel
bad about that, But it worked out

711
00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:43.039
for her. I'm I'm glad it
did. Okay, I want to get

712
00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:49.159
serious for a few minutes, you
and I both and I think your audience

713
00:54:50.239 --> 00:54:53.760
knows this. For the most part, that we worked together along with John

714
00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:59.400
Ziggler, who did ninety eight percent
of the of the work, and Liza

715
00:54:59.480 --> 00:55:05.960
Bibe on a series called With the
Benefit of Hindsight, which is actually the

716
00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:12.440
true story of the Penn State Joe
Paterno Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal.

717
00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:21.840
Oh yeah, and you know that
it was a tremendous undertaking that really I

718
00:55:21.960 --> 00:55:30.719
jumped in on and I funded at
considerable cost because I thought this story has

719
00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:36.000
to come out. People have to
learn the truth about what happened here.

720
00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:43.000
And because this is such an incredible
injustice. This man doesn't belong in jail.

721
00:55:43.079 --> 00:55:45.079
We've got to get him out of
jail. We've got to get the

722
00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:51.880
truth out there. John had invested
eight years of his life into learning the

723
00:55:51.960 --> 00:55:57.719
truth in this story, and so
we created this series called With the Benefit

724
00:55:57.840 --> 00:56:02.480
of Hindsight. You can find it
on any of the podcast platforms. Caution

725
00:56:02.639 --> 00:56:08.079
you that it is a meaningful investment
if you choose to go listen to it.

726
00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:13.320
I don't mean financially, I mean
of your time, because we set

727
00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:17.360
out to prove a negative and when
someone's been convicted on forty five counts of

728
00:56:17.400 --> 00:56:22.079
child sex abuse, you've got to
take those counts literally, one at a

729
00:56:22.119 --> 00:56:28.360
time and refute all of them before
you can declare the man innocent. They

730
00:56:28.519 --> 00:56:32.760
do that. We do all of
that and more in what took sixty hours

731
00:56:32.840 --> 00:56:37.239
worth of audio. Let me tell
you before you go further, that was

732
00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:42.280
what I was just coming to you
about starting a podcast with you together.

733
00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:47.760
And you're working on this with the
benefit of hindsight. And I thought Jerry

734
00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:52.360
Santusky was guilty like everybody else did. And you hammered away at me and

735
00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:57.599
gave me all the facts. Each
story was like an hour long and of

736
00:56:57.639 --> 00:57:02.800
all these different kids and parents,
and I came away not feeling knowing that

737
00:57:02.840 --> 00:57:07.599
he was innocent. And you guys
did a bang up job because you proved

738
00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:14.519
the point solidly many many times over. Well thank you. But you know,

739
00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:19.039
going into it, we really had
two goals. One was, you

740
00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:25.679
know, convince a production company,
convince a Netflix somebody like that to to

741
00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:29.320
do a docu series with us,
and it's going to have to tell the

742
00:57:29.360 --> 00:57:36.079
story that way. And we failed
to a long story behind all of that.

743
00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:43.639
And then two, we failed to
generate enough momentum to stimulate public outcry

744
00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:46.480
over the case. I mean,
there are a lot of people who listened

745
00:57:46.519 --> 00:57:51.840
to the series. We actually won
a couple of awards with the series.

746
00:57:51.880 --> 00:57:59.800
We were giving great reviews on the
series, but it didn't touch enough people

747
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:07.960
to create any kind of enough momentum
to change the public discourse or the conventional

748
00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:14.719
wisdom about the story. And so, you know, the the case as

749
00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:19.760
I sit here today, you know, still occupies my thoughts on a daily

750
00:58:19.800 --> 00:58:27.079
basis. I think about Sandusky,
I think about the stories on a daily

751
00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:30.400
basis, and I still to this
day work with John Zigler on a daily

752
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:37.039
basis. We do a series called
The Death of Journalism, and so we're

753
00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:42.639
constantly referencing the Penn State scandal within
a lot of the episodes that that we

754
00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:49.920
do. And that's because it's I
mean, it represents probably the biggest legal

755
00:58:49.920 --> 00:58:52.840
injustice of all time, or at
least at least one of them. You

756
00:58:52.840 --> 00:58:59.679
know, you have you have four
guys who went to prison as well as

757
00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:01.280
you know, Joe Paterna would have
gone to prison if he had died.

758
00:59:01.320 --> 00:59:10.320
He died two months after the the
whole thing came out. And yeah,

759
00:59:10.360 --> 00:59:13.960
I mean, he didn't know he
had cancer. He found out he had

760
00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:19.199
cancer right after the story broke.
Uh it was late stage cancer, but

761
00:59:19.280 --> 00:59:24.360
it certainly he had no fight in
him once once all that happened. But

762
00:59:24.360 --> 00:59:27.679
but you know, like I said, we had two objectives. We failed

763
00:59:27.719 --> 00:59:30.519
in those objectives, and it's been, you know, one of the more

764
00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:37.679
frustrating disappointments of of my adult life, of my career, and certainly for

765
00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:43.159
John, who You know, when
you decide to take on a story like

766
00:59:43.199 --> 00:59:47.199
that as a journalist, you risk
it. You risk it all because it's

767
00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:52.679
it's considered third rail. It's such
a toxic story. How could you take

768
00:59:52.719 --> 00:59:59.679
the side of that child abuser?
And you know it's it's hurt John's career

769
01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:04.920
significantly. He's gotten death threats,
Yeah, all kinds of things over the

770
01:00:05.440 --> 01:00:09.639
over the years. And so listen, you did a whopper of a job.

771
01:00:09.840 --> 01:00:15.280
And unfortunately the timing when this podcast
came out, we were in that

772
01:00:15.480 --> 01:00:21.559
knee too cloud which kind of transferred
people's thoughts into all different types of men

773
01:00:21.719 --> 01:00:25.639
and sexual impropriety. So I don't
think people wanted to hear about, Hey,

774
01:00:25.639 --> 01:00:29.880
this guy didn't fuck kids. It
was a tough time to sell it.

775
01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:32.880
But like I always tell you,
you wait some time, and I'm

776
01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:36.159
telling you they're gonna bite on it. It's not going to go away.

777
01:00:36.360 --> 01:00:44.000
It's yours forever. They'll take it. Well, I have a kernel of

778
01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:50.079
hope that you are right about that. But the big reason I think today

779
01:00:51.159 --> 01:00:54.559
you might be right about that versus
a month ago, right, is because

780
01:00:55.519 --> 01:01:05.199
people are going to be telling stories
moving forward about how the media tricked the

781
01:01:05.239 --> 01:01:12.719
public and a number of contexts.
Obviously we know the most pervasive one,

782
01:01:12.800 --> 01:01:16.880
which is everything involving the Biden administration
and who knew what and when and the

783
01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:23.480
media pretending playing dumb now and pretending
they didn't know all along. The Penn

784
01:01:23.519 --> 01:01:30.639
State case. I think will get
back, will get maybe another chance for

785
01:01:30.840 --> 01:01:37.639
the story to be told, because
of what everyone has learned about the media

786
01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:42.519
in the years since, and especially
in recent days. But about a year

787
01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:47.679
ago, I heard about this guy
by the name of Frank Parlato. I'd

788
01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:52.159
never heard of him before, but
he's an investigative journalist. He's in upstate

789
01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:57.039
New York. He's by like by
Niagara Falls or something. But he publishes

790
01:01:57.079 --> 01:02:00.599
this blog called the Frank Report.
And I know who he is. Well,

791
01:02:00.639 --> 01:02:05.920
I knew you would know who he
is because he's the guy who gets

792
01:02:05.960 --> 01:02:08.800
credited with uncovering the Nexium scandal.
Yeah, right, that's why I know.

793
01:02:09.079 --> 01:02:15.639
Next, right, right, So
he was a journalist from that area

794
01:02:15.719 --> 01:02:23.679
for years, and then a sort
of in zigleresque fashion, he becomes obsessed

795
01:02:23.760 --> 01:02:30.480
with that case and does all of
the digging and exposes you know what,

796
01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:38.320
what happened there. And so Parlato
about a year ago, got interested in

797
01:02:38.519 --> 01:02:44.840
this case. He listened to our
series with the benefit of hindsight, he

798
01:02:44.880 --> 01:02:47.440
read this book called The Most Hated
Man in America by Mark Pendergrast, which

799
01:02:47.480 --> 01:02:54.440
is mostly aligned with our podcast series. There's a guy, believe it or

800
01:02:54.440 --> 01:02:58.760
not, at a UC Berkeley,
a professor by the name of Frederick Kruz,

801
01:02:58.760 --> 01:03:05.559
who's written intensively on this topic,
totally aligned with us and a number

802
01:03:05.559 --> 01:03:07.960
of others. But so he immersed
himself in all of that, and he

803
01:03:08.000 --> 01:03:15.119
was able to do something that none
of us had been able to do previously,

804
01:03:15.360 --> 01:03:21.559
and that is get the attention of
a major media outlet to give coverage

805
01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:28.920
to this story. And so The
Daily Mail became interested in the story and

806
01:03:29.119 --> 01:03:36.079
has now printed two different stories about
the case. The most recent one was

807
01:03:37.239 --> 01:03:45.199
late last week and they actually conducted, together with Parlato, the first prison

808
01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:53.079
interview with Sandusky since Ziggler snuck a
pen with a microphone into back in twenty

809
01:03:53.159 --> 01:03:58.320
fourteen and was able to interview Ziggas. So it had been a decade since

810
01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:01.519
I was able to interview Sandusky,
in a decade since Sandusky had been had

811
01:04:01.559 --> 01:04:06.480
been interviewed. But one of the
big things that came out of that interview

812
01:04:08.039 --> 01:04:15.639
that never came out at trial,
and we spent a portion of one of

813
01:04:15.679 --> 01:04:20.920
our episodes, our late episodes,
covering it, and we only spent a

814
01:04:20.960 --> 01:04:29.119
portion of time covering it because we
had we had evidence, but we we

815
01:04:29.199 --> 01:04:33.960
didn't have a lot of interviews with
people that were knowledgeable of that evidence and

816
01:04:33.960 --> 01:04:41.760
could really comment on it. We
had doctor's reports, but we didn't have

817
01:04:42.480 --> 01:04:47.079
interviews with the doctors commenting on those
reports. And so what came out in

818
01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:57.239
the interview was that Sandusky has had
a lifelong condition, a very serious lifelong

819
01:04:57.320 --> 01:05:04.360
condition that resulted in ultra low t
Yeah, I mean testosterone levels that are

820
01:05:04.519 --> 01:05:09.920
off the chart on the low side
basically begin with when you get older.

821
01:05:09.960 --> 01:05:15.960
But then he had a he had
an actual illness. He he had no

822
01:05:16.280 --> 01:05:25.599
discernible testicular matter. That's a quote
from one of the doctor's reports. So

823
01:05:26.760 --> 01:05:41.159
he basically had almost no testicle.
So his physical appearance would have been significantly

824
01:05:41.280 --> 01:05:51.960
dramatically different than the normal male appearance. Right, Well, Sandusky number one

825
01:05:53.039 --> 01:05:58.760
is a tremendous faith, and so
he never believed that that his God would

826
01:05:58.800 --> 01:06:04.480
allow him to be convicted. Number
one. Number two, he also knew

827
01:06:04.480 --> 01:06:09.880
all the stories were lies and thought, in particular, there were a couple

828
01:06:09.920 --> 01:06:14.280
of people that weren't going to be
able to go through with it, and

829
01:06:14.320 --> 01:06:19.440
that this was going to blow up
and he'd never be convicted. And his

830
01:06:19.480 --> 01:06:26.119
faith in God, his faith in
that the truth would come out, and

831
01:06:26.199 --> 01:06:31.480
his overall faith in humanity put him
in a position where he was so embarrassed

832
01:06:31.679 --> 01:06:43.000
about his medical condition that he didn't
want it coming out, so he held

833
01:06:43.159 --> 01:06:48.360
back, even from his own attorney. He eventually gave the records to his

834
01:06:48.440 --> 01:06:55.480
attorney, Joe Amondola, and of
course, even as lame an attorney as

835
01:06:55.519 --> 01:07:02.079
Amondola was, he wanted to use
the information at trial, but Sandusky didn't

836
01:07:02.119 --> 01:07:10.559
want him to because he was embarrassed
by it. Vanity. So, so

837
01:07:11.519 --> 01:07:17.119
what comes out in the story last
week is all the medical reports. So

838
01:07:17.159 --> 01:07:21.639
they print the actual They published the
actual medical reports in the Daily Mail.

839
01:07:23.360 --> 01:07:28.960
It gets picked up by a number
of other of other papers, and uh,

840
01:07:29.559 --> 01:07:38.360
they have committed to doing additional stories
and staying involved with Parlato now who's

841
01:07:38.400 --> 01:07:42.519
published a ton of stuff. His
blog is called the Frank Report. If

842
01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:45.639
you go to it, you'll see
it's totally different than we've done. Everything

843
01:07:45.679 --> 01:07:54.159
we've done long form with you know, going through painstaking detail in each episode,

844
01:07:55.719 --> 01:08:00.039
whatever the topic is in that episode, what what Frank does iss and

845
01:08:00.280 --> 01:08:09.719
sends out a heavy volume of articles
pertaining to one particular piece of the puzzle

846
01:08:09.719 --> 01:08:15.199
here. This piece is a critical
piece, especially when you consider there are

847
01:08:16.319 --> 01:08:21.800
there are quote unquote victims in this
case that claimed that they were forced to

848
01:08:21.880 --> 01:08:32.000
perform oral sex on Sandusky one hundred
times and come on, never, never,

849
01:08:32.119 --> 01:08:41.560
not a single one of them ever
mentioned any abnormality with the guard to

850
01:08:41.640 --> 01:08:45.640
Sandusky. They didn't say he abused
them at all at first, No,

851
01:08:45.640 --> 01:08:48.479
none of them said. In fact, there was never a contemporaneous complaint,

852
01:08:48.600 --> 01:08:57.159
and the complaint, the two complaints
that turned this into a case came from

853
01:08:57.319 --> 01:09:03.199
the mothers of boys, not the
boys themselves, and both of the boys

854
01:09:03.239 --> 01:09:10.199
had told those mothers that Sandusky had
never touched them. Both of those mothers

855
01:09:10.800 --> 01:09:16.279
saw a potential payday in all of
this, and went down the road because

856
01:09:16.319 --> 01:09:27.199
of that, and so eventually those
kids would get aligned with personal injury attorneys,

857
01:09:27.319 --> 01:09:32.239
who would be aligned with therapists who
would give them repressed memory therapy.

858
01:09:32.439 --> 01:09:39.880
And you know, some may actually
have come to believe. Oh yeah,

859
01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:44.720
I'd say there are two that might
have actually come to believe that Sandusky's abuse

860
01:09:44.760 --> 01:09:47.640
and the rest were just out and
outliers, out out for paydays. But

861
01:09:49.159 --> 01:09:53.640
this particular angle of things, the
fact, I mean, here we are,

862
01:09:54.039 --> 01:10:00.720
this guy is being accused of being
one of the most prolific serial abuser,

863
01:10:00.840 --> 01:10:08.680
serial rapists in history. Yet his
doctor's reports show he couldn't have an

864
01:10:08.760 --> 01:10:14.640
orgasm, So so what was he
doing? No? Exactly exactly. And

865
01:10:15.039 --> 01:10:20.800
you know, unfortunately, the quote
unquote victims, which they're not all loved

866
01:10:20.800 --> 01:10:27.039
them, but their parents, their
mothers and lawyers saw an opportunity not to

867
01:10:27.199 --> 01:10:33.000
sue a solo man like Jerry Sanewski, but to sue a very very rich

868
01:10:33.560 --> 01:10:39.640
university in Penn State, absolutely,
which is which is a huge part of

869
01:10:40.239 --> 01:10:44.920
there's so much of this case that's
misunderstood because people assume, well, they

870
01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:51.479
must be guilty, because why would
Penn State pay all of this money to

871
01:10:51.680 --> 01:10:59.399
victims if they weren't guilty. Why
would Penn State fire the winning his coach

872
01:10:59.439 --> 01:11:04.439
in college football history, and Joe
Paterno and this president who was admired in

873
01:11:04.560 --> 01:11:10.359
Graham Spaniard. Well, it's it's
a complicated story, but it very much

874
01:11:10.520 --> 01:11:16.600
becomes in Penn State's interest for this
story to be true, because the Penn

875
01:11:16.640 --> 01:11:21.880
State Board of Trustees makes a bunch
of decisions in the first three days of

876
01:11:21.920 --> 01:11:31.840
this scandal erupting where based solely on
lies told at a press conference by the

877
01:11:31.880 --> 01:11:40.640
Attorney General and the media's coverage of
those lawes. They go and they fire

878
01:11:40.720 --> 01:11:47.079
the president and and their you know, head coach, and now they better

879
01:11:47.119 --> 01:11:53.119
be guilty because if they're not,
it's it's going to get a lot uglier

880
01:11:53.159 --> 01:11:57.279
for the board of Trustees, which
by the way, included the governor of

881
01:11:57.359 --> 01:12:03.039
the state who was the attorney general
at the time the investigation started into Sandusky,

882
01:12:03.199 --> 01:12:09.760
so he had a huge conflict of
interest and a reason to get the

883
01:12:09.760 --> 01:12:13.239
board to go along with him.
But anyway, we're getting out of the

884
01:12:13.279 --> 01:12:16.119
lane on it a little bit.
I just the big story here is that

885
01:12:17.279 --> 01:12:28.640
the story of Sandusky's sexual health,
his hypogonadism. I think is the official

886
01:12:29.039 --> 01:12:38.720
diagnosis of it is. It's pretty
hard to think a guy who suffered from

887
01:12:38.760 --> 01:12:47.319
this and he definitively suffered through this
in a documented fashion during a time period

888
01:12:47.319 --> 01:12:51.159
that overlaps with the overwhelming majority of
the accusations. There are a couple of

889
01:12:51.199 --> 01:12:58.960
accusations that come before he was.
There are medical reports, but the doctors

890
01:12:59.520 --> 01:13:03.840
are considerant and saying, well,
if he was in this condition in two

891
01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:10.199
thousand and four, there's no way
in nineteen ninety eight he wasn't at least

892
01:13:10.880 --> 01:13:16.079
this far along. And there's no
there's no prior history. There's nothing,

893
01:13:16.800 --> 01:13:20.000
nothing from his twenties, there's nothing
from his thirties, there's nothing from his

894
01:13:20.039 --> 01:13:25.199
forties. All this stuff is this
guy in his fifties and sixties. Yeah,

895
01:13:25.439 --> 01:13:36.000
and and and his he matches none
of the normal traits that you see

896
01:13:36.159 --> 01:13:41.199
in these people. He had no
pornography, He didn't own any pornography.

897
01:13:41.239 --> 01:13:48.159
Police never found any sort of of
pornography. These boys were all heterosexual.

898
01:13:50.039 --> 01:13:58.600
Sandusky, there's no record ever of
him being anything other than ed orca.

899
01:13:58.720 --> 01:14:01.319
The only other thing you could probably
say is asexual to a degree, because

900
01:14:02.039 --> 01:14:06.199
he and Dottie just couldn't. He
was her first, she was his first.

901
01:14:06.319 --> 01:14:11.640
Yeah, they didn't know a lot
about uh oh, and sex drives

902
01:14:11.720 --> 01:14:15.359
up. They were probably married.
How long were they married? There's still

903
01:14:15.439 --> 01:14:17.479
by the way, which is another
thing that never happens. Okay, yeah,

904
01:14:18.079 --> 01:14:24.760
sense of you two, You are
not still married thirteen years after you

905
01:14:24.840 --> 01:14:29.840
go to prison and your wife doesn't
still drive up days a week, four

906
01:14:29.880 --> 01:14:33.119
hours to see you if you're freaking
guilty? Did she was she vocal enough

907
01:14:33.279 --> 01:14:38.920
during the trial, did she maybe? Could she have said anything along the

908
01:14:38.960 --> 01:14:42.560
lines of you know, I guess
they talked about it, but she could

909
01:14:42.560 --> 01:14:45.399
have been a big help by saying, you know, we don't have sexyness.

910
01:14:45.399 --> 01:14:49.640
He has that sexy years because of
this condition, she was a terrible

911
01:14:51.119 --> 01:14:56.800
She was a terrible witness, And
a big part of why she was a

912
01:14:56.880 --> 01:15:02.640
terrible witness is because she is such
a devout Christians. Devout. Yeah,

913
01:15:02.960 --> 01:15:09.319
she did literally with her husband's life
on the line. She didn't want to

914
01:15:09.359 --> 01:15:15.520
say anything bad about any of his
accusers. Yeah, yeah, she didn't

915
01:15:15.560 --> 01:15:18.439
want to do it. You know, so she couldn't answer question why are

916
01:15:18.479 --> 01:15:23.319
they lying? You'd have to ask
them why they're I don't do that kind

917
01:15:23.319 --> 01:15:30.840
of thing. Look, We've lived
long enough to see so many past indiscretions

918
01:15:30.920 --> 01:15:36.800
or crimes come back again as TV
shows, as series movies. I was

919
01:15:36.880 --> 01:15:41.960
just looking at the Son of Sam
murders today. They actually began July twenty

920
01:15:42.039 --> 01:15:47.239
ninth of nineteen seventy six. All
these things come back, and Jerry Sandusky's

921
01:15:47.279 --> 01:15:56.960
situation is such a part of the
fabric of American crime or just horrible stories.

922
01:15:57.359 --> 01:16:03.199
It's too juicy that they be writers
and people and network heads who come

923
01:16:03.279 --> 01:16:06.880
up the ranks and go, why
were not touching this? This is such

924
01:16:06.920 --> 01:16:11.840
an arc. This is such a
crazy story. And the flip side is

925
01:16:11.880 --> 01:16:16.039
he's innocent. Let's at least present
it. There's no question someone's gonna pick

926
01:16:16.079 --> 01:16:18.720
that up and you'll make your money. I know it. I've been in

927
01:16:18.760 --> 01:16:24.279
this business too long. Eventually,
Look, it took forrest up thirty years

928
01:16:24.319 --> 01:16:27.039
for people that think it was a
good enough script to be made. Yeah,

929
01:16:27.159 --> 01:16:29.760
I mean it happens all the time, every day. It happens.

930
01:16:30.279 --> 01:16:32.359
So I think you're just in that. You're in that, you're in that

931
01:16:32.439 --> 01:16:35.960
structure of things that are just too
soon to bite on. But things like

932
01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:42.800
this Frank Parlatto, Daily Mail,
those are big steps that bring it close

933
01:16:42.880 --> 01:16:46.239
to the forefront of people's minds and
you'll see something get done soon enough.

934
01:16:46.399 --> 01:16:51.840
Well, look, I think I
think, particularly with what's going on right

935
01:16:51.880 --> 01:16:59.840
now, the case is really interesting
to look at and sort of compare to

936
01:17:00.039 --> 01:17:05.560
what's happening right now, because you
know, in the case of Penn State,

937
01:17:08.840 --> 01:17:12.439
you know, there were four people
who went to prison, three of

938
01:17:12.479 --> 01:17:16.680
them they were short prison stints.
They're very honorable people. They've made the

939
01:17:16.680 --> 01:17:21.359
most of their lives, they've continued
to be successful. And there's really one

940
01:17:21.479 --> 01:17:30.079
person whose life was ruined by that
entire scandal. Paterno's reputation was ruined,

941
01:17:30.119 --> 01:17:32.680
but he was dead two months later. It's Sandusky. So it's an eighty

942
01:17:32.760 --> 01:17:38.920
year old guy sitting in prison thirteen
years later. Where if the truth came

943
01:17:38.960 --> 01:17:44.720
out, if the truth were understood
in you know, a reversal, a

944
01:17:44.800 --> 01:17:53.680
new trial and he's found innocent,
that would destroy a governor's reputation and bring

945
01:17:53.840 --> 01:17:58.600
a former governor and bring possible charges. It would destroy a judge's reputation,

946
01:17:58.760 --> 01:18:04.039
bring charges. It would destroy the
reputations of numerous states attorneys and the ag

947
01:18:04.680 --> 01:18:09.399
and bringing charges there. It would
destroy the credibility of the Penn State Board

948
01:18:10.159 --> 01:18:14.119
is comprised of many of the wealthiest
alumni in the state. Right, that

949
01:18:14.159 --> 01:18:20.840
would bring expensive lawsuits and possible charges
there. It would it would result in

950
01:18:21.640 --> 01:18:30.720
a possible actions against the institutions that
were that the institutions would take action Penn

951
01:18:30.800 --> 01:18:34.800
State. The second the second Mile
Jerry's charity that were destroyed, right,

952
01:18:35.279 --> 01:18:43.439
their reputations were damaged by ESPN and
c double A CNN. Although, so

953
01:18:43.720 --> 01:18:49.079
when you you got one guy in
prison, he's eighty now many more years

954
01:18:49.119 --> 01:18:57.239
he's got right, And and then
there's this whole laundry list of if the

955
01:18:57.560 --> 01:19:04.640
if the truth became under good there's
this whole huge roster of people, and

956
01:19:04.920 --> 01:19:13.399
there are hundreds of millions, if
not billions of dollars worth of lawsuits to

957
01:19:13.520 --> 01:19:19.680
be filed and collected if the truth. So what has protected and prevented the

958
01:19:19.760 --> 01:19:29.920
truth from exposure all of these years
is that everybody there in the state is

959
01:19:30.159 --> 01:19:35.760
joined at the hip in the same
law. So it's prosecutors, it's media,

960
01:19:36.239 --> 01:19:43.920
it's the people in government, etc. Well, now look at what

961
01:19:43.960 --> 01:19:50.079
we're talking about right now with the
Biden administration. It's the same thing.

962
01:19:50.640 --> 01:19:57.600
You have all of these groups,
you can draw the parallelsa back to Penn

963
01:19:57.640 --> 01:20:02.760
State. You got the media,
you got the administration. You've got a

964
01:20:02.800 --> 01:20:09.760
lot of people in powerful positions in
Washington and Hockey State and Hollywood. You've

965
01:20:09.760 --> 01:20:15.720
got people all over the place.
And that's why you know this thing it

966
01:20:15.920 --> 01:20:21.399
never would have gotten a life of
its own if data, if they'd kept

967
01:20:21.399 --> 01:20:31.239
it hidden, and they'd have been
able somehow to win the election at some

968
01:20:31.479 --> 01:20:35.399
point, maybe months, maybe over
a year later, but at some point

969
01:20:36.159 --> 01:20:46.279
there would have been a very very
honorable retirement. I've been diagnosed. Ah

970
01:20:46.319 --> 01:20:50.680
bah, thank you for all of
your service. You're a hero to America.

971
01:20:50.800 --> 01:20:57.439
Joe Biden and incomes Kamala and no
one and no one would have known.

972
01:20:58.279 --> 01:21:01.840
I mean we all would have known, but no one could have proved

973
01:21:01.920 --> 01:21:10.319
because nobody in that cabal, nobody
in that alignment hiding the truth would have

974
01:21:10.399 --> 01:21:15.600
broken line and nobody would have broken
ranks to tell it. And then and

975
01:21:15.680 --> 01:21:20.000
I have to give it to Trump
on this. As much as I criticized

976
01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:24.359
Trump, as many issues as I
have with Trump, I said, and

977
01:21:24.399 --> 01:21:28.279
I know a lot of other people
said that he was crazy for accepting the

978
01:21:28.359 --> 01:21:34.039
terms of that debate, because I
just I just felt like it was a

979
01:21:34.079 --> 01:21:40.159
trap and that all Biden had to
do with the way those rules were laid

980
01:21:40.159 --> 01:21:45.359
out is come out and be you
know, semi conscious for ninety minutes,

981
01:21:45.640 --> 01:21:51.560
and you know it would be over
with. But I think Trump was right.

982
01:21:51.720 --> 01:21:57.720
I think that the offer of the
debate and the terms associated with it

983
01:21:58.119 --> 01:22:04.760
were so one sided that they expected
Trump to say, if you I'm not

984
01:22:04.880 --> 01:22:10.680
doing that, that's bullshit. It's
you know, so serving it up.

985
01:22:11.279 --> 01:22:15.560
And then having him say no,
I won't do it would have given them

986
01:22:15.600 --> 01:22:17.479
the ability to say, see,
we tried to have a debate with Trump,

987
01:22:17.560 --> 01:22:23.920
and he's afraid to debate Joe Biden. You know, but smart or

988
01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:28.199
lucky, I don't know. I'm
smart, I'll tell you. I had

989
01:22:28.560 --> 01:22:33.960
several listeners tell me this is ridiculous. Trump accepts these demands CNN, it's

990
01:22:34.000 --> 01:22:36.720
a home game for Biden, And
I said, look, I always put

991
01:22:36.760 --> 01:22:42.479
politics as a bit many of my
episodes, I'd put in street fighting terms.

992
01:22:43.079 --> 01:22:45.319
And I said, look, man, when you know you kick somebody's

993
01:22:45.319 --> 01:22:50.560
ass and the whole world is watching, all you tell them is anytime,

994
01:22:50.720 --> 01:22:55.760
any place, anywhere, I'll beat
you in your backyard with the lights out,

995
01:22:55.800 --> 01:22:58.000
whatever, you want to do,
I'll show up and I'll kill you.

996
01:22:58.159 --> 01:23:00.840
That's the way a real strong man, tough man, bully, whatever

997
01:23:00.840 --> 01:23:04.359
you want to call it acts.
If Trump got acquiesced and got Ah didn't

998
01:23:04.359 --> 01:23:09.039
acquies and got concerned about some of
those details, he would be looked upon

999
01:23:09.079 --> 01:23:12.800
as a pussy. Trump's a tough
guy. He doesn't gamble, but he

1000
01:23:12.880 --> 01:23:15.960
takes very calculated risks, and that
was a risk. I think he knew

1001
01:23:16.279 --> 01:23:20.720
along with this guy talks Dmury hangs
himself. I don't have to interrupt him.

1002
01:23:20.880 --> 01:23:25.239
The guy's proven that, just to
show that he hanged himself with enough

1003
01:23:25.319 --> 01:23:29.199
rope, let him go. And
I don't. I still don't think there'll

1004
01:23:29.199 --> 01:23:31.479
be a second debate in September,
even though Biden says there will be.

1005
01:23:32.279 --> 01:23:35.039
I don't. I don't think there
will. There is absolutely zero reason for

1006
01:23:35.079 --> 01:23:39.560
Trump would. It is absolutely zero
reason for Trump too. Right. But

1007
01:23:40.119 --> 01:23:45.960
look if if if you're right,
and like I said, I don't know,

1008
01:23:46.560 --> 01:23:50.319
really smart or really lucky, but
you have to look at the other

1009
01:23:50.399 --> 01:23:55.119
side of it for a second too. And even if you think you know

1010
01:23:55.199 --> 01:24:00.239
Trump, and if you serve up
all these one sided rules, you you

1011
01:24:00.319 --> 01:24:02.439
think he's going to give you the
finger and say no, I won't do

1012
01:24:02.520 --> 01:24:06.880
it. There's still the risk he's
still Trump, he's rogue. He might

1013
01:24:06.960 --> 01:24:14.520
say yes. And so you still
have to believe enough that the way that

1014
01:24:14.600 --> 01:24:19.079
you are manipulating the rules you're going
to your candidate's going to be able to

1015
01:24:19.159 --> 01:24:24.119
survive the night. You have to
believe that or you can't make that dare

1016
01:24:24.319 --> 01:24:30.439
because it's because you can't trust that
Trump's going to do the thing you would

1017
01:24:30.479 --> 01:24:34.800
do, which is say no.
He might he might accept it. And

1018
01:24:34.840 --> 01:24:39.319
so it's handicapping. What would you
I mean, we do it all the

1019
01:24:39.319 --> 01:24:41.920
time, but we had our kids
were young and will so I'll spot your

1020
01:24:41.960 --> 01:24:44.319
ten points, I'll spot your five
points. I'll play it twenty one.

1021
01:24:44.680 --> 01:24:47.560
That's all this was. It was
a debate that had an imaginary handicap all

1022
01:24:47.600 --> 01:24:51.880
and that most of the America didn't
understand. But Trump knew he was entering

1023
01:24:51.920 --> 01:24:57.640
that debate as a favorite. Accepting
the terms made him even a bigger favorite.

1024
01:24:58.199 --> 01:25:00.000
Most people thought he was an underdog. I knew he was the safe

1025
01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:04.119
bet because he knew who he knows
his enemy. Look, Trump is a

1026
01:25:04.159 --> 01:25:09.000
lot of things, narcissistic, bombastic, liar. I get it. I

1027
01:25:09.039 --> 01:25:13.840
know him well, but one thing
he's good at is warfare. I'm telling

1028
01:25:13.920 --> 01:25:16.800
you, this guy will get in
your fucking head and you can't get him

1029
01:25:16.840 --> 01:25:20.720
out. He lives rent free.
You see how many people can't stand him.

1030
01:25:21.000 --> 01:25:24.880
If you have an altercation with him, like I did, you never

1031
01:25:24.920 --> 01:25:29.439
forget it. He just destroys you
from the inside out. Biden is no

1032
01:25:29.720 --> 01:25:32.159
I mean, he's an easy target. President or not. Trump made the

1033
01:25:32.239 --> 01:25:36.439
right call and now he's in the
driver's seat certainly looks that way. Democrats

1034
01:25:36.479 --> 01:25:40.279
are running all over the place like
chickens went out of head, trying to

1035
01:25:40.279 --> 01:25:44.520
convince us Kamala is the face of
democracy now the new party leader. It's

1036
01:25:44.560 --> 01:25:48.319
all bullshit. There are pins and
needles. They're hoping, well, you

1037
01:25:48.399 --> 01:25:51.319
tell me, most of them are
hoping Joe backs out. Michael Moore,

1038
01:25:51.399 --> 01:25:58.119
everybody we know who's pro Biden is
begging him to stop. And yet this

1039
01:25:58.399 --> 01:26:01.000
fool with the ego of the pride
and the wife and the crackhead son and

1040
01:26:01.399 --> 01:26:08.319
in his family urging him to go
on. It really is well, so

1041
01:26:08.720 --> 01:26:12.720
I have another I have a different
take on that. But before before we

1042
01:26:13.159 --> 01:26:19.359
go there, I just want to
there there were there's a very short list

1043
01:26:19.600 --> 01:26:23.600
of people. You just mentioned two
of them that are on it, but

1044
01:26:24.119 --> 01:26:29.680
there's Trump's not on the list.
There's a very short list of people who

1045
01:26:30.439 --> 01:26:40.159
actually know what Joe Biden's condition is. And those people made that calculated gamble,

1046
01:26:41.079 --> 01:26:46.720
and those people had the ability if
they knew how it was going to

1047
01:26:46.760 --> 01:26:53.159
turn out, if their knowledge of
his condition was that that it would go

1048
01:26:54.359 --> 01:27:00.239
close to that badly, could have
pulled some kind of medical could have you

1049
01:27:00.279 --> 01:27:08.119
know, could have pulled a cord, a parachute and semi gracefully gotten him

1050
01:27:08.359 --> 01:27:11.680
out of it. But they didn't
do that, and so the people who

1051
01:27:11.960 --> 01:27:19.840
knew or know him and his condition
the best thought that they could still put

1052
01:27:19.880 --> 01:27:23.479
him out on the stage and get
away with it, which tells me that

1053
01:27:23.520 --> 01:27:31.479
they thought that whatever the whatever the
magic potion is, whatever the combination of

1054
01:27:32.560 --> 01:27:39.880
drugs and whatever cocktail they were giving
him that night, was going to be

1055
01:27:40.039 --> 01:27:46.239
enough to get him through it.
And obviously it wasn't. And then what

1056
01:27:46.399 --> 01:27:54.840
happened before he even got off stage. The damn that has held all of

1057
01:27:54.880 --> 01:28:00.079
this, I mean all of this
together, and when you think about what

1058
01:28:00.119 --> 01:28:04.159
that damn is, I mean,
it's a Russia hoax, which was based

1059
01:28:04.199 --> 01:28:10.680
on an oppo research project initiated by
the Hill Larry Clinton campaign. The weaponization

1060
01:28:10.760 --> 01:28:15.960
of a virus in order to cripple
opponents' chances of re election. The establishment

1061
01:28:15.119 --> 01:28:19.199
of new COVID voting rules that resulted
in one hundred and fifty eight million people

1062
01:28:19.520 --> 01:28:24.319
voting in an election, twenty plus
million more than it ever voted. The

1063
01:28:24.359 --> 01:28:30.560
abuses of power like Ohsha, the
mandate vaccinations, preventing millions of people from

1064
01:28:30.680 --> 01:28:33.479
making their own choice if they wanted
to hold on to their jobs. The

1065
01:28:34.000 --> 01:28:39.800
false claims the vaccine would stop the
spread, the cover up of information relating

1066
01:28:39.840 --> 01:28:45.319
to vaccine side effects. The censorship
of opposing opinions across social media platforms,

1067
01:28:45.319 --> 01:28:50.039
all those doctors whose opinions were dismissed. The dismissal and suppression of information related

1068
01:28:50.079 --> 01:28:54.800
to the gain of function research,
the Muhan lab, the whole lab leak

1069
01:28:54.920 --> 01:28:59.800
theory, the whole bullshit about fifty
one intelligence community experts saying it's you know.

1070
01:29:00.159 --> 01:29:03.520
Has all the classic signs of Russian
disinformation. The weaponization of the DOJ

1071
01:29:03.760 --> 01:29:10.479
to target political opponents. The enabling
an illegal alien invasion, allowing terrorists and

1072
01:29:12.159 --> 01:29:15.600
drug dealers to pass freely through the
border, causing me to think about the

1073
01:29:15.640 --> 01:29:21.720
amount of death and mass destruction,
allowing election politics to impact a foreign war

1074
01:29:21.840 --> 01:29:26.279
against home terrorists, covering up the
fact that the President of the United States

1075
01:29:26.319 --> 01:29:29.920
is sick and has been sick for
a long time, and therefore obfuscating an

1076
01:29:30.039 --> 01:29:33.239
entire nation's understanding of who is running
the country and how decisions are being making.

1077
01:29:33.359 --> 01:29:38.560
All of that. The damn broke
that night. The damn completely fucking

1078
01:29:38.760 --> 01:29:46.119
broke that night, And so from
that we're where we are now. And

1079
01:29:46.880 --> 01:29:53.399
look, you tell me, But
in the world I live in, everything's

1080
01:29:53.760 --> 01:30:04.359
open to negotiation, and I think
that there are things the bidens are demanding.

1081
01:30:05.199 --> 01:30:12.800
And I think that Hunter is in
the middle of this as deeply as

1082
01:30:12.840 --> 01:30:15.600
he's in the middle of this.
Not because anyone thought it would be a

1083
01:30:15.600 --> 01:30:18.560
good look for Hunter to be in
the middle of this, right, but

1084
01:30:19.039 --> 01:30:30.520
because Hunter has a mutual assured destruction
box that not only includes his father,

1085
01:30:30.279 --> 01:30:39.760
but includes Obama and includes other people
that were He's in the middle of this

1086
01:30:39.920 --> 01:30:45.239
saying you can't do it. Obviously
my opinion and not the opinion that anyone

1087
01:30:45.279 --> 01:30:49.800
else has shared with me. This
is not where Ziggler is it. This

1088
01:30:49.880 --> 01:30:58.880
is me. But I think that
this this attempt to get solidarity with some

1089
01:30:59.039 --> 01:31:03.520
of the media and uh and a
number of people and in Congress and to

1090
01:31:03.880 --> 01:31:09.840
point to you know, democracy and
that the votes are already cast and I'm

1091
01:31:09.880 --> 01:31:13.640
already the candidate and you're not pulling
me out of the race. To meet

1092
01:31:13.800 --> 01:31:21.159
all of that is negotiation, is
negotiating tactics and what what do they want?

1093
01:31:21.199 --> 01:31:26.600
What have we seen from them?
Well? Number one money? Number

1094
01:31:26.600 --> 01:31:32.600
one money they compared to the normal, if you will, president, They

1095
01:31:32.640 --> 01:31:40.640
don't have crazy money in that family. They didn't start getting real money until

1096
01:31:40.800 --> 01:31:45.960
he started sending his son on the
world tour. And so you know,

1097
01:31:46.079 --> 01:31:51.760
you got Wilmington, Delaware and rehoved
beach and you know that's about So it's

1098
01:31:53.520 --> 01:32:00.880
money, and it's freedom. Uh, it's freedom from prosecution. It's yeah,

1099
01:32:00.920 --> 01:32:05.800
it's being it's probably more than pardoned. They probably need to be pardoned

1100
01:32:06.000 --> 01:32:12.720
and then indemnified against it. I
mean, they need a free pass on

1101
01:32:12.840 --> 01:32:15.840
everything. So if you could say
to him and to the entire family,

1102
01:32:17.720 --> 01:32:23.720
you you'll never be convicted of anything. Nobody can come after you. And

1103
01:32:23.760 --> 01:32:32.119
here's a way that we can funnel
through all these various wease in which we

1104
01:32:32.199 --> 01:32:36.079
can had money in islands and other
countries and everything else. We can funnel

1105
01:32:36.119 --> 01:32:43.159
you fifty one hundred million. Yeah, that I could see it, and

1106
01:32:43.199 --> 01:32:45.800
I got loose you. I don't
think and I think Trump contrary with people

1107
01:32:45.840 --> 01:32:49.960
believe. I think he would pardon
them both because he's he's going to be

1108
01:32:50.000 --> 01:32:54.159
bigger at that moment and want America
to prosper. He's what I want to

1109
01:32:54.159 --> 01:32:57.039
put this behind them. He's not
going to try to jail these people.

1110
01:32:57.439 --> 01:33:00.239
I think he'll do it and an
in true Trumps style, he'll still talk

1111
01:33:00.319 --> 01:33:05.640
down about them during speeches and television
appearances, but it'd be looked upon as

1112
01:33:05.640 --> 01:33:10.319
a good guy for doing it.
He could use I don't I don't disagree

1113
01:33:10.359 --> 01:33:13.279
with you, but that has nothing
to do that. That's that's what happens

1114
01:33:13.279 --> 01:33:17.159
after Trump wins. This is this
is none of them now, none of

1115
01:33:17.199 --> 01:33:21.760
them. They're gonna be like the
freaking night at the Bridge of Death Right

1116
01:33:23.039 --> 01:33:26.439
and whatever he is, where the
arms and the legs are cut off.

1117
01:33:27.640 --> 01:33:31.680
Torso left the Democratic Party is going
to be there with just a fucking Torso

1118
01:33:31.840 --> 01:33:42.079
saying I'll bite your caps off until
until they will admit defeat here, and

1119
01:33:42.159 --> 01:33:45.920
so uh, forget about what Trump
will do. This is about what can

1120
01:33:45.960 --> 01:33:51.000
they get away with? Is there
a way to get away with all of

1121
01:33:51.039 --> 01:33:59.760
that and not have a future administration
have the ability to come And I don't

1122
01:33:59.760 --> 01:34:04.399
know enough to know whether that actually
can be done. It can be done

1123
01:34:04.399 --> 01:34:09.239
with Joe, because if Joe stepped
down and Kamalie came in and Kamala pardoned

1124
01:34:09.279 --> 01:34:12.880
him, I mean it's it's done
and he's pardoned, right, that doesn't

1125
01:34:12.880 --> 01:34:20.560
help Hunter. No, I don't
know if there's any path to pardoning Hunter.

1126
01:34:21.239 --> 01:34:27.520
That doesn't that you just there's zero
chance of you winning an election after

1127
01:34:27.520 --> 01:34:30.560
your party. Yeah, yeah,
of course. I look those are good.

1128
01:34:30.840 --> 01:34:34.279
That's good points. It's a good
scenario. I don't doubt that that's

1129
01:34:34.600 --> 01:34:40.359
probably happening. As Joe Biden puts
up this front to say I'm running,

1130
01:34:40.399 --> 01:34:43.640
I'm tell him to go against me, I'll beat the ball. He's got

1131
01:34:43.640 --> 01:34:45.880
a lot of bluster, a big
ego, and a lot of pride,

1132
01:34:45.880 --> 01:34:48.279
which I said on the Last Big
Show. But if I could just toot

1133
01:34:48.319 --> 01:34:53.960
my horn, this is why people
have to listen to famous a bitch or

1134
01:34:54.079 --> 01:34:59.720
politics is a bitch because I made
these announcements years ago. I told people

1135
01:34:59.760 --> 01:35:02.760
from day one the second that election
was lost. In twenty and twenty Trump

1136
01:35:02.920 --> 01:35:05.960
is coming back. When people didn't
dig he would and he will win.

1137
01:35:06.520 --> 01:35:10.039
I said, Biden's not going to
make it till the ticket, till till

1138
01:35:10.079 --> 01:35:13.680
election day. But having seen him
act recently, I think he has too

1139
01:35:13.760 --> 01:35:16.800
much pride and his wife is behind
him too much. And if what you're

1140
01:35:16.840 --> 01:35:21.720
saying is accurate, then I'm all
for that. Then he gracefully exits with

1141
01:35:21.760 --> 01:35:26.880
some big package of money. Fine, But I've also called these things.

1142
01:35:27.520 --> 01:35:30.520
Look I called doctor Faucio phony Italian
four years ago. I called Chris Cuomo

1143
01:35:30.640 --> 01:35:34.600
and Andrew Pomo big fucking phonies.
They're gonna lose their jobs. I said

1144
01:35:34.600 --> 01:35:40.800
this years ago. I'm not surprised
by any of this. I'm just amazed

1145
01:35:40.840 --> 01:35:45.359
that a large portion of the public
didn't see this coming. And I'm really

1146
01:35:45.399 --> 01:35:48.880
aggravated, having been a part of
the fourth Estate. If she still can

1147
01:35:48.960 --> 01:35:55.920
call of that journalism to watch what
they've done and how they purposely lied to

1148
01:35:56.000 --> 01:35:59.600
what end. I don't know.
No one was getting paid just to have

1149
01:35:59.720 --> 01:36:02.520
Bui into the White House and just
to have more legals crashing the water and

1150
01:36:02.560 --> 01:36:06.199
inflation going up. What are they
getting out of it? That's the biggest

1151
01:36:06.199 --> 01:36:11.119
story. What did the media get
from this? How could you hate Trump

1152
01:36:11.279 --> 01:36:15.399
that much that you're able to just
lie about this decrepit. I'm sorry.

1153
01:36:15.479 --> 01:36:18.760
I don't want to be mean.
I'm compassionate. He's over the hill.

1154
01:36:18.760 --> 01:36:25.039
It's done. You cannot keep propping
him up. The media should be ashamed

1155
01:36:25.039 --> 01:36:29.760
of themselves. And I have a
great time calling about as do you and

1156
01:36:29.840 --> 01:36:33.479
John with your podcast about the death
of journalism. It really is, and

1157
01:36:33.520 --> 01:36:38.199
it's not a quick death. It's
a slow, agonizing death. And I

1158
01:36:38.199 --> 01:36:43.479
think it happened way before and before
me too. This was coming the laws.

1159
01:36:43.840 --> 01:36:46.439
I got out of newsrooms. Well
I didn't choose to get out,

1160
01:36:46.439 --> 01:36:48.840
but well, yes I did after
the daily dose. I could have worked

1161
01:36:48.840 --> 01:36:51.800
in other newsrooms, but I didn't
like to climbate. I didn't like what

1162
01:36:51.880 --> 01:36:56.279
was happening, and I just figured
I'm an outsider. They don't like me

1163
01:36:56.359 --> 01:36:59.479
in these rooms anymore. So I
figured I had to do something on my

1164
01:36:59.520 --> 01:37:02.000
own and be a voice on my
own. And thankfully you and I got

1165
01:37:02.039 --> 01:37:06.199
together and made this happen. But
I still have all those instincts, and

1166
01:37:06.640 --> 01:37:10.279
people have laughed at me in the
past about what I predict and what's going

1167
01:37:10.319 --> 01:37:14.840
to come true. Fuck I said, I said Justice Spilllet was full of

1168
01:37:14.840 --> 01:37:18.279
shit the second story broke. I'm
just I have street sense. I see

1169
01:37:18.279 --> 01:37:21.399
how this is going. I do
agree with you that Biden has cooking up

1170
01:37:21.439 --> 01:37:25.560
some kind of plan and the people
around him, and I think since he

1171
01:37:25.640 --> 01:37:30.439
really has Obama on his side,
that these kind of intricate plans can be

1172
01:37:30.520 --> 01:37:35.760
done and get him out of the
sticky situation with whatever pride he has left

1173
01:37:36.600 --> 01:37:42.359
and avoid any kind of serious legal
implications. So I think you're right.

1174
01:37:43.159 --> 01:37:48.279
Well, dude, you've always had
strong street sense. I mean it's you

1175
01:37:48.359 --> 01:37:53.920
either kind of are born with that, or you're or you're not. And

1176
01:37:53.960 --> 01:38:03.119
I think what's happened here is with
fragmentation, the media really became therapists.

1177
01:38:03.279 --> 01:38:10.800
I mean, they have a tribe
that only wants to hear certain kinds of

1178
01:38:10.800 --> 01:38:15.920
stories. They give them therapy every
day by feeding them only those kinds of

1179
01:38:15.920 --> 01:38:19.880
stories and only the kind of happy
ending on those stories that they want.

1180
01:38:20.039 --> 01:38:26.479
So those people become more and more
and more ignorant over time to what's actually

1181
01:38:26.520 --> 01:38:30.640
happening. And by the way,
Fox is as guilty as any of the

1182
01:38:30.800 --> 01:38:36.359
other ones. And because because Fox
is actually complicit in all of this,

1183
01:38:36.760 --> 01:38:44.000
Fox plays the role of acting like
they are the dissenter and they are challenging

1184
01:38:44.039 --> 01:38:48.399
the existing administration. But they go
to about the fifty yard line. Why

1185
01:38:48.680 --> 01:38:54.439
when they could go to the ten
right, they purposely only go to the

1186
01:38:54.439 --> 01:39:00.399
fifty because guess who owns Fox and
guess what guess he comes from. So

1187
01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:09.520
they're all in this entire thing together. But the damn, the damn broke

1188
01:39:10.279 --> 01:39:17.319
and it's over. What we talked
about in twenty seventeen when we first got

1189
01:39:17.359 --> 01:39:25.560
together is the reality today that there
are that there are alternative forms of distribution

1190
01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:32.800
and relationships are from consumer directly to
a single voice, and people are forming

1191
01:39:32.840 --> 01:39:39.640
opinions based upon seeking out the variety
of people they want to hear from whose

1192
01:39:39.720 --> 01:39:45.760
opinion they respect, and a lot
of people are getting or gathering that from

1193
01:39:45.920 --> 01:39:51.880
a diverse slate of voices so that
they can be as informed as they want

1194
01:39:51.880 --> 01:40:00.239
to be. But the media committed
suicide where the business has gone and since

1195
01:40:00.319 --> 01:40:09.520
fragmentation and creating basically their own UH
therapy units and UH and this is now

1196
01:40:09.720 --> 01:40:15.359
it's just laughable. Everybody who's playing
the role of whoever that guy from CBS

1197
01:40:15.560 --> 01:40:19.319
was that was giving uh KEYJP a
hard time. Dude, where you been

1198
01:40:19.399 --> 01:40:23.840
for five freaking yeas? Big shot? Now you're a knight in shining arm

1199
01:40:23.920 --> 01:40:26.680
right now you want to ask questions? And now they want to pin people

1200
01:40:26.720 --> 01:40:30.800
down. They want to protect their
their their what do you call it?

1201
01:40:30.800 --> 01:40:34.199
They want to they want to make
sure people know, hey, I'm I've

1202
01:40:34.279 --> 01:40:36.960
always had a hint that this was
happening. Now I'm going to speak up.

1203
01:40:38.159 --> 01:40:41.159
They want to protect their careers.
They're they're scrambling to go back at

1204
01:40:41.199 --> 01:40:45.279
that, like we always had a
feeling this would happen when five years ago,

1205
01:40:45.479 --> 01:40:47.640
six years ago, doctor Michael Savage. I love his show. I

1206
01:40:47.640 --> 01:40:51.079
haven't heard it in a while.
Savage, because Savage has studied medicine and

1207
01:40:51.760 --> 01:40:55.840
so many things. He's so smart, he said. Seven years ago,

1208
01:40:55.840 --> 01:41:00.920
he said, Joe Biden has the
gate of a man suffering from Parkinson's.

1209
01:41:00.960 --> 01:41:03.880
I've been around these people. My
parents had it. I know the walk

1210
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he has it. No one paid
attention. People just all the Savage is

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crazy. No, he's a very
learned man who's giving you the truth seven

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years ago. I love his show. In fact, that's why I wanted

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a podcast because on nine to eleven, I'm driving across country and my friend

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put the radio on. I never
heard of Michael Savage, and I heard

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him and I felt like, oh
my god. First it was very patriotic.

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This was nine as twelve and I'm
listening to this guy speak, and

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I just said, Fuck, that's
what I have to do. I have

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to talk directly to people. I
can't have it watered down by two or

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three editors and two or three lawyers. I can't stay in the newsroom anymore

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where I write the description of a
criminal and say he's black and have an

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01:41:46.039 --> 01:41:50.319
editor go, why is that important? Why is it important? It's fucking

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01:41:50.399 --> 01:41:54.840
important he's black. No, we
can't say that. That's when I started

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to get really pissed off about the
way journalists was headed, and I wanted

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nothing to do with it, but
except my own. Man, Well,

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people are on stupid. People are
smart. You can't treat them like they're

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stupid. I think if Domaklain has
passed away, right, Yeah, am

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I think he did? Yeah?
I think he would be singing about the

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01:42:16.960 --> 01:42:21.319
day the media died instead of the
Data music died if he were around right

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01:42:21.359 --> 01:42:26.399
now. But look, dude,
we've covered We've gone from Formula one to

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the world of gossip, to an
ai beauty contest to trying to save the

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01:42:31.000 --> 01:42:35.920
world, so that everything that is
everything is a bitch and much of what

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we covered is is pretty bitchy.
So yeah, great, dude, Well

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next time you'll probably be back in
Cali. We'll figure it out. Well,

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enjoy the rest of the stay in
Chicago, and folks, thanks for

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01:42:50.239 --> 01:42:56.199
listening. If you like the show, please share it with your friends and

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01:42:56.880 --> 01:42:59.880
help us grow this thing. We're
having fun with it all right. By

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next time, Thanks