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Well, happy Monday here everyone,
Monday, August seventh. Hope everyone had

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a great weekend, coming off a
little slow moving today, coming off at

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Dorothy and I celebert that our seventh
wedding anniversary last night, but still going

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strong here. Appreciate it. We
have Andy Murray hopping in here, Jason

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under the weather today probably due to
the taecast performance and you'll make that joke

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here. And we have the now
a new nickname here. We have the

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professor Andrew Murray, and now we
have the director here, Evan Wilsmurre.

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Evan. We can probably get into
that more once Andy hops off the stream

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later. But how are you doing? Congratulations Evan first and foremost. Yeah,

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man, I'm doing great. You
know, it was an exciting weekend

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of football here. Obviously, you
know, we've got plenty of things to

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talk about me personally and this slate
of games. But yeah, man,

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ultimately I was impressed. You know, maybe it was a bit of a

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slower week. You had some blowouts, you had some closer games, but

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you know, honestly, I mean, yeah, there's a lot, there's

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a lot to get into this week. I'm excited. Yeah, Evan announcing

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over the weekend. He's now the
assistant director player personnel for the Vegas Nighthawks

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here in the IFL. Very exciting
Andy hopping on here last minute this morning.

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Andy, How are you doing,
sir? I'm doing great. I

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love swooping in and just you know, stealing other people's thunder and I hope

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Jason gets better, you know,
but I am always happy to fly in

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the last moment. But as far
as Evan goes, congratulations sir. That

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is a fantastic honor, great distinction. I have no doubt you were going

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to absolutely rock it when you do
that. I'm really excited for you,

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very stoked. I know we've talked
a little bit about your involvement as far

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as like scouting and all the work
that you put in. You have impressed

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me from day once I met you
with all the work that you put in,

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so I absolutely cannot wait to see
what you do with them and the

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new role that you have. So
congratulations, sir. I appreciate it.

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Man, That's that means a lot. Really, Yeah, it's cool.

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Just you know, with we we've
seen Jay here right, you know,

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come from the new Said family,
go to you know, work with the

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Brahmas, here and obviously Evan like
I just like so, you know,

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because some of like I just kind
of do this for fun, right,

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have my own thing that I do. But it's cool to see guys that

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are passionate about this right and work
and Evan earning this and kind of really

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stepping into this role. You know, we're years ago, like what are

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we going to do? And you're
still so young, But it's cool to

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see this you're working towards something.
We can talk more about that. We

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have James here checking and Monday Mark
cast let's go, and then we have

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Jeff here. He says. Yeah. First, I'm teen in live usually

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listen to Rod. I guess Rob
Peterson's off today. So I said,

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you like to subscribe ibe you're here, Um, I have some Newsy stuff

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to fill. We can talk about
you the Darnel sank and everything going to

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the XFL. Do we want to
do that at the top or at the

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bottom. Do you guys want to
talk on that now or do you want

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to do the games first? Well? I think I think we have to

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talk about it now. Yeah,
all right, So we had over the

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weekend Darnell Sanky Right, going back
up, he said, he you're leaving

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the XFL going back up to the
CFL. I'll pull up the tweet Evan

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thoughts on this that you know,
you you know, covered him as part

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of the renegades and everything else.
Let me get the tweet up. Yeah,

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I mean, you know, I
had followed thank you story a bit.

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You know, him and um cam
Kelly came down too, from Hamilton

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to San Antonio. Not a lot
of people talked about that. Sanky was

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definitely the big CFL acquisition. And
I remember last year when people were kind

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of up in arms at least the
CFL come he was about that, you

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know, Sanky leaving and go into
an American league, you know, and

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I don't. I haven't read I
mean, look, we're gonna get into

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this. I kind of skimmed over
that article. I didn't really read it

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fully. So you know, I'm
interested to see his true opinion. But

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you know, like ultimately, I
can't blame him for this. And I

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honestly think, you know, as
much as I. You know, maybe

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I'm pro XFL or whatever, like
you know, I think Sanky, I

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mean, he had a great run
there in Saskatchewan, and you know,

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if he can go back there go
to another team or whatever. I mean,

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Look, he did his job in
Arlington. He won the championship,

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Like he kind of hit the pinnacle
there, I think you'd say, so

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now he can go back to Canada
and just kind of resume his career the

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way things were. Plus, there's
also that familiarity aspect there. He came

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into the XFL not knowing anything,
not really knowing anybody. But now he

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has the opportunity to go back to
a place where he has, you know,

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all these established connections. You know, the fans probably have a better

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idea of who he is, because, let's be honest, like the average

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American fan isn't going to who Darnell
Sanki is NFL or XFL, USFL whatever,

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I mean, you know, unless
you're a fan of the college he

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went to, which I'd have to
check on what that actually is. But

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anyway, yeah, ultimately, I
think, you know, this is probably

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a good move for Sanky and honestly, it gets him back on the field

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sooner. I mean, if he
signs, you know during this season,

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I mean we just wrapped up what
week nine, you know, he'd still

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have so many weeks to perform and
have an opportunity to win another championship,

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and then you get into the story
of you know, how cool would it

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be for him to win a championship
in the United States in May, go

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back to Canada and then have a
chance maybe win another one in November,

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which you and me will be there
for. Read possibly, Yeah, I

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just didn't like Annie. Let's hear
your thoughts, because then I got a

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little piece. Look, I don't
blame him for taking the risk to go

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down south and play in another league. We've seen that with several players,

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namely we had him, We obviously
had McLeod Bethel Thompson who went south and

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play at the USFL. Until further
notice, he's still trying to get into

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the NFL. It doesn't seem like
he's going back to Canada anytime soon,

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despite how how badly people tried to
will that into existence after Ottawa's quarterback injury

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peril that they went through for a
couple of weeks. So, you know,

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look all the power to say,
mister Saki, I think he explored

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an option, it didn't really work
out for him personally, and he decided

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to come back. I read the
article in full, and let me tell

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you the tone of it does not
match really what people make it out to

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be. As far as reading the
headline, I think the main point that

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Saky was getting at was that he
personally did not find what he was looking

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for in the league that he played
for. But if you go and look

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at some of the quotes in the
article and some of the pieces that were

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pulled out, he clearly recognizes the
viability of something like an XFL. And

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he said it himself basically that the
level of competition was pretty much almost equal

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in terms of yeah, this quote
right here, the competition level was very

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equal in that matter. And so
I think for him, like it's it's

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an important comparison to make, of
course, and if he seems like he

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loved his time in the CFL so
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it, and a lot of people
who've said they have established themselves in the

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CFL do hold it in high regard, and you know, it's a league

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that's been around for so long.
You know, the XFL is in a

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lot of ways, it's still an
experiment. He makes that point as well,

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like there's still a lot of things
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said, you know, he mentioned
that the travel aspect in the Hub thing

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was a little bit weird for him
and some of the players in terms of

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like going back and forth between the
home cities, playing in the homes and

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then going back to Arlington. But
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whole thing with trying to start up
the league in But overall, the tone

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it seems to me is that it
just to me read as to each their

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own, like it didn't work out
for him specifically for certain reasons. But

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he's not dogging and saying that it
can't work ever, or that it's inferior

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in any way, shape or form. But other people want to take that

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context out of that article. That's
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get that sense at all reading that
article. Yeah, that's what That's just

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my piece. And you know,
we've had Hodjohn and I love three down

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for what they do. I just
wish they weren't so like, oh oh

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see see see he said something bad
about the you know, the the XFL

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here we can you know he wants
to come back like you know, we

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had the quote like you know,
and he said I would argue that in

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terms of competitional and I think it's
pretty much the same. I said,

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that's a lot less sexy quote than
like, well the XFL. This wasn't

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for me. That's fine, And
I have argued on here for the last

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you know, year and a half. Now that we've seen this new XFL,

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I think it relies way too much
on like, we want this to

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be so you know, a platform
four players, as opposed to like,

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we want you to be able to
work here for five, six, seven

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years and earn a paycheck. And
I think that's kind of art Arnell.

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But you know, I did see
where was the quote? And you know,

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Andy, of course, you know, cores balls. He chiming in.

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I could have told him that before
he left, And I said,

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why why would that be? Why
would that be? He came to the

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South, he made you know,
fifty five thousand plus dollars, worked twelve

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weeks, won a championship, and
now he's back up and he's probably gonna

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be able to jump on the team
and make you know, like and he

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said another deep run here, like
what was so bad about him? You

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know, even God forbid, you
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in the exit valu. I just
I don't get that this tribalism. I

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mean, I know, Ballsy like
works for the right, you know,

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the Riders, so I think he's
got a little bit more skin. But

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like three Down, I think if
I think three Down is a little too

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tribal for their own good. Sometimes
when it comes to like well this is

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you know, we gotta we gotta
protect this, and God forbid anyone speak

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ill about the CFL. So that's
that's kind of my two cents on that.

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You guys have anything else on that
before we want to get to the

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games. Well, I mean I
decided to put some of those specific quotes

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in his points in his in his
post there because I just wanted to sort

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of illuminate how Sachy was really spinning
it versus how other people would spin it.

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So I just wanted to make that
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look, I just want to make
sure he's doing his homework. You know,

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I gotta make you make sure you
read read the article. You know,

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as we always say, we keep
hanging on about that. So I

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think that's a really important part to
consider. And just yeah, like again,

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it's they're all different leagues, they
have their different mindsets. I watched

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the IFL championship game on Saturday.
I'll be honest, I have not really

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watched a lot of IFL, and
so for me it was it was a

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good experience just for me to get
more acclimated to other players who potentially who

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who knows, might make their way
to the XFL or some of these other

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leagues, and to sort of be
more familiar with the style of the game.

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I mean, we have, as
our comrades, Sam Shady will tell

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you there's a bajillion different arena iterations
out there, so it seems to me

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like it's important to get familiar with
some of the bigger, higher end ones

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like IFL, which I mean it
was on CBS Sports Network, it was

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on a decently syndicated feed there on
Saturday. So for me, like I

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enjoy all of it, I don't
really care for tribalism. I've said that

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from day one. I really don't. You know. I'll make my points

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and i'll make I'll say what I
want to about all these leagues, but

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I really don't care for all the
pitchforks on the fire. Yeah, so

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let's get into this. We have, you know, kind of an interesting

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slate of games here. I as
previously mentioned out last night. I watched

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the other ones over the weekend.
Here Andy up in arms about this Ottawa

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Saskatchewan, lots of I saw lots
of coaching and miss cues and everything.

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Evan initial thoughts on this, and
I asked them tweets I can pull up

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as well. Yeah, so the
game last night, right, Ottawa Saskatchewan.

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So it's interesting because I didn't mention
this one last week as a game

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to watch. You know, my
game that I was really talking about was

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you know, BC in Winnipeg,
which started reading. I know, we

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have to get to that later.
It's unfortunate, but anyway, Yeah,

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so the Saskatchewan Autawa game, you
know, this, to me, I

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really thought Ottawa was gonna win this
game, just given the way that Saskatchewan

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has been playing lately. I didn't
think they had things you know, figured

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out, and there were some you
know, questionable decision making in this game

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for sure. You know, maybe
we can get to that later. But

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you know, again, this I
felt winnable for Ottawa, and now it

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kind of feels like, you know, there was all this hype a couple

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of weeks ago, you know,
Dust and Crum, everybody coming in but

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now it's kind of fading away again, and especially in this game, I

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felt like, you know, if
Ottawa doesn't win this one, they're kind

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of right back to that, you
know point of I don't want to say

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concern or alarm, but you know
that they need to do something again,

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right. They got to you know, pick things up, you know,

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get things going, you know.
But ultimately, this was a good win

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for Saskatchewan and it puts them I
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which was surprising, but for different
reasons. Another game will get into

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But Saskatchewan with this win I think
is kind of you know, really put

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themselves. I mean at four and
four, you know, they really do

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kind of control their own destiny.
You know, there's not I mean,

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there's many ways, in my opinion, this could go. They could lose.

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I haven't looked at their schedule.
They could lose another you know,

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three games in a row, or
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row, and then you know,
then we'll have a really good idea of

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where they're at. I mean,
because to be honest, even last week,

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I didn't really know where Saskatchewan was, you know, what they were

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doing, where they were going to
go. I had a lot of questions

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and some of them I think were
answered this week in this win. For

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sure, Andy, what do you
make here? I've seen a lot of

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you know, we're calling for the
Mason fines of it at all? What

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did you make of Saskatchewan the win
here? Late? Listen, man,

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this all goes on the coaches in
this game. This was abominable. I'll

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get into the players in a second, but I need to talk about the

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coaching decisions in this game for a
second. This fourth quarter was maddening as

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a football fan who was absolutely maddening
to watch. So Ottawa offensively really was

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not doing much this entire game,
and I think people have figured out dust

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and crumb to a degree, and
his passing numbers have been low. He

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was sacked six times. Ottawa didn't
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to protect him or his ability to
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he needs to develop if they're going
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They were pretty pedestrian on offense overall, but as far as some of

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the decisions that were made in the
fourth quarter, Ottawa was driving down the

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field. They had this long the
stained drive in the fourth quarter, and

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it looked like they were going to
take the leave. They were down down,

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they were down twenty three to twenty
one. And they get to around

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the thirty yard line and it's about
a second and two and they decide that

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they're gonna take it. They're gonna
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get you know, a big player
or a touchdown. It doesn't happen to

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go falls in complete. This is
Tyler pig Roam, by the way,

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Tyler big Roam is in because they
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Mind you, it's second and two
and the CFL everyone plays a yard off

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the ball, so getting the third
and one or second and one is almost

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automatic. Right, Well it's second
and two. Now it's third and two.

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They decided to run a sneak with
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they don't get it, so they
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they could have kicked a field goal
and they could have gone up. At

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that point, they would have been
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there you already have a pretty questionable
decision by coach Bob Dice. Later on

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Saskatchewan in their own territory, decide
instead of punting the ball away to an

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offense that really hasn't done much all
day. Look, you can argue all

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you want about execution and process.
Some people would argue that the process was

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correct. I disagree. If the
other offense, Patrick Mahomes, is not

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on the other side of the field, do you really fear that they're going

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to move the ball that much?
I would have taken my chance and said,

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let's see you move the ball again, crumb. And I think in

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that case, Saskatchewan I mean a
horrendous air. They went forward on third

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one their own territory, they didn't
get it. Now they've given a clear

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opportunity for Ottawa. Ottawa takes the
ball to get all the way down to

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the one yard line and they don't
make it. On second and second this

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is when they get down to the
one yard line and instead of going forward

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and getting a touchdown or just giving
themselves giving Saskatchewan a really long field to

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potentially give the ball back, then
you go for the field goal and it's

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like, okay, well you're up
now, but now you've given too much

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time to scatch one. And then
and then on top of all of this,

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After all these decisions, they decide
that it would be best for them

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to kick off to Mario Alford,
who, in my opinion is basically the

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Devon Hester of this league. He
is dangerous. Do not let him have

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the ball, like, do not
let him have any free reign, free

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kick, any sort of space to
work with. And they kick it right

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to him and he gets it near
midfield and possibly they have broken it even

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further, and then they kicked that
long field goal and take the lead and

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win. I Bob Dice look afterwards, I said, he needs to apologize

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to the team for what he did. Well. He apologized not for the

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field goal decision. He apologized for
kicking it to Alford on the side of

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the field. I think you should
apologize for all of it. He made

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three really horrible decisions in the fourth
quarter that costs his team. I think

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that this was just a really bad
breakdown in coaching this entire quarter, And

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it really was maddening to watch the
football fan because I think that it did

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a disservice to the players in a
lot of ways. So now I look

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overall, I like Bob Dice,
but he let his team down here.

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He was not good in the fourth
quarter. Yeah, well, it's really

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the first time we've kind of seen
him collapse like that. That's why I

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just I had this three I think, like like only week in Poop Poo

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the CFLs he fans his I only
we only three down because like we can

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criticize, but otherwise it's not it's
not very good. Evan, what did

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you make of this right down?
Because I had a lot of tweet safes

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kind of calling for both Dickinson and
Boddysis heads Hereah. Yeah, you know,

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it's a weird ending. And every
time I see a team, you

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know, get extremely confident about kicking
one of those you know, field goals

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with like over a minute left,
I'm just like, no, I think

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in the moment, there's certain people
who forget that, like it's not that

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hard, like you know, if
you're I mean, unless it's a field

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goal, like let's say, if
it was you know, twenty Like I

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don't know if if that was a
field goal, like if Saskatchewan was to

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tie the game instead of win it
on the field goal, I would get

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why Ottawa would take a field goal
there, but the fact that they knew

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that if Saskatchewan got in the field
goal range and kicked it that would win

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them the game. I got doesn't
make any sense, you know. I

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mean, I get a field goals
a safer option, but like they were

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right there, like even if you
don't get the touchdown, you know,

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then you know you have to drive
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like Andy said, that avoids the
whole situation with Mario Alford. You don't

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even have to worry about him because
it just turn it turns over on down.

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So yeah, I agree, it
was definitely a weird ending. And

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I think in the moment again,
people just get too confident that they think

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we're just gonna hick this field goal, and it's all about the defense.

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The defense were gonna stop, defense, We're gonna stop. Well, it's

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not really about the defense getting a
stop if the returner takes it halfway up

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the field and then you've already eliminated
after the field, Like the defense can

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only do so much in that situation, you know, like they have nothing

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to do with Mario Alford because that's
a special team's play. So yeah,

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I don't know, definitely a weird
ending, and I agree. I think,

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you know, Bob Dyce should have
taken a bit more credibility. Now.

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The fact that he apologized it all
really does say something, because you'll

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get a lot of coaches that,
you know, will just keep pounding the

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table. No, I'm right,
you're wrong, Like we thought this through.

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That was not thought through. In
my opinion, that was just a

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weird, a weird way to finish
a game. And to be honest,

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like, I mean, you know, it's great to see it, you

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know, a team win on a
field goal, that's obviously one of the

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more exciting ways to you know,
finish the game. But it doesn't feel

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as good when you knew that the
other team made a silly mistake and they

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could have just had to win right
then and there. Yeah, I don't

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know if that last minute in the
CFL game just last forever. I mean,

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if you can if you can make
completions, and I mean there's the

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whole debate about the three downs and
you know you miss one. You know

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you're trying to maintain momentum going down
the field. But if you can get

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those little completion yeah, those a
little short, little out whatever route thing

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you can, you can go the
whole length of the field, and so

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this debate about that. I had
a quote here not to make this Michael

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Ball show here, but Andy,
it's based find the best quarterback to in

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the sea. He is so high
on Mason find right now, I do

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feel like it's just this Saskatchewan homerism, right and I saw that right well

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with that, I love our Vanstone, but you know, a lot of

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the codey for Jardo's last year,
so he you know a lot of we

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got to defend our quarterback here.
What do you make a Mason find for

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and for rough riders as Harris out
well, if he thinks one touchdown in

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four interceptions is qualifies for a QB
two, then I'm really worried about the

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health of the rest of the league. That's all I'm gonna say. Because

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I don't think Mason Finds got it. He's I would call him Mason fine,

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Mason, Okay, Mason whatever,
because he I don't really care because

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he's average. We've seen it,
we understand who he is right now.

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This is who he is. I
guess say, better matchup in Ottawa,

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which wasn't you know, the same
level of defense that he saw against BC

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in Toronto. He still looks fine, but again, he just wasn't spectacular.

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I think this is who he is, and this is what he is.

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He's not the best second quarterback of
the league. Okay, I'll take

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Dan Evans over here him many day
of the week. And I know that's

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saying a lot. I get what
we just saw this past weekend, but

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I would still take Dan Evans in
a lot of cases. There's a lot

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of better quarterback twos than Mason.
Fine. Sorry, mister Balza, You're

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gonna have to take a hike on
this one. Go find someone else Where's

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Dola Gala Like, I want to
see more of Dola Galla two rather see

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more of him getting burned than Mason. Fine, because I don't think there's

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really much mystery left here. I
think gold Gala is somebody that needs to

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see more of the field and have
more opportunities. If a writer's look,

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I don't know if it's a survival
game for them at this point. They

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they've been some crazy games this year, also that Calgary game they almost came

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back in at home and then lost
ultimately on the long field goal. I

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mean, they've they're they're kind of
living on the edge here. They got

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to be careful because them and the
Stampeders are going to be sort of knifing

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each other until they tell the finish
line to see which one gets in.

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I mean, this bottom tier over
the playoffs, and it's it's looking grizzly.

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Man. Like I said to everyone
on the chat, I think on

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Friday night or Thursday night, I
said, look, it's argos, it's

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bombers and lions, and everybody else
is just like basically in a giant tussle

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in a ditch somewhere trying to get
out of it. And I think this

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is really there's not really much to
write home for for Scatch one. They

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have a decent enough defense, decent
enough special teams, their offense, it's

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it's uninspired. Evan, How did
how did our boy crem Sandity do here?

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You know, he said, figuring
him out? You know? Is

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is the mystery gone? Right?
They last last week as well, near

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the end of the game. Oh
yeah, definitely. And it started last

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week really and I was hoping maybe
this week, you know, you you

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you kind of swing that momentum back. But no, I think teams are

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starting to figure out, you know, his his game plan and you know,

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he's he had a he had a
peak, but that peak again is

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gone and I think it. I
don't want to say it's gone with the

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rest of the team because I still
have hope, I still have belief,

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But I do want to talk about
some other players in this game, um,

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you know, transitioning off of you
know, well, I mean we

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already talked about Mason Fine a bit. I agree with everything Andy said.

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I mean, if you think Mason
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league, oh boy, I don't
know. I mean, either you're a

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really big Saskatchewan fan or you just
haven't watched enough CFL football. And look,

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Mason Fine at this point. I
think this is his third year in

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the league. It's nothing against him, it's just you know, I mean,

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he has like, yeah, this
performance was better. This was definitely

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his best performance as the starter.
But like the past couple of weeks,

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I mean, it was hard to
watch him. And I think it was

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maybe last week or the week before
I was saying, you know, one

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of the weirdest quarterback performances I'd ever
seen from a guy. And that's not

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necessarily a good thing, or I
didn't really mean it in a good way,

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but I agree with everything Andy said. The two things. You know,

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I would take Dane Evans over him
any day. And yeah, what

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about Jake dol Galla, because he
actually looked good in a touchdown Atlantic game,

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So don't know what happened to that. But the one guy really want

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to talk about here, at least
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Now, a lot of people don't
know that Jared Sterns actually signed in

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the CFL, and he was a
really big XFL target. I remember Max

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was singing his praises a while back
during the XFL draft. But yeah,

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I mean Jared Sterns, you know, signed recently with Saskatchewan, like during

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the season, couple weeks ago,
I don't remember which week it was,

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but signed up there. And this
was the first game where I think he

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really saw action and you know,
led the team and catches. It looks

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like they kind of got a steel
here. And you know, I was

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pushing for Sterns to be signed,
you know, during the XFL season with

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a couple of teams, and that
was probably the top receiver on my list.

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So good to see him up in
the CFL. Definitely not where I

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thought i'd be watching him play,
but at least he's kind of kickstarting his

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pro career. He was with the
Bucks for a bit, and then with

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the Rams last season, and then
just looking on the Ottawa side, I

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think there was somebody here I was
going to talk about m Maybe not maybe

410
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I was looking at Saskatchewan. Um
well, maybe maybe I was gonna talk

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about Sean Bain because he had another
nice game and I've really liked his progression

412
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this season. But outside of that, I think I just really wanted to

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talk about Jared Stearns because everybody knows
how much I love Jared Stearns. Andy,

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What do you make I just I
don't know. I think I tied

415
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him. You know, four and
four Riders. I don't know what to

416
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make of this team. It doesn't
feel like they have any identity. I

417
00:24:59.799 --> 00:25:03.440
know Trevor Harrison really pulled for it. I just I worry here. You

418
00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:06.039
know, two seasons kind of back
to back, missing the playoffs. What

419
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do you make of this team overall? Well, like I said, I

420
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think their defense is commendable and they
get a lot of pressure on the opposing

421
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team's quarterbacks. Like I said,
they got six sacks in this game,

422
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and they really caused hell for Dustin
Crumb. Their past defense was pretty good.

423
00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:22.519
I mean they only gave up one
hundred and seventy four passing yards and

424
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overall, I mean, you give
up two hundred and twenty two total on

425
00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:30.640
defense is pretty good. You're doing
your job. The only things that really

426
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kept him in was turnovers on offense
and just this inability to really understand situational

427
00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:41.359
football, like again with with Dickinson
deciding that he was going to go for

428
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it his own territory just was a
disservices to that defense. And they still

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held their ground and they managed to
keep Ottaway out of the end zone somehow.

430
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And they actually, and that's the
biggest thing. Ottawa had three chances

431
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inside inside the red zone. They
didn't convert any of the touchdowns. So

432
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they clearly have been able to stand
up tall against them form formidable situations.

433
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I mean, they did a good
job against the Argos last week. Actually,

434
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I really have to say they managed
to keep Chad Kelly in check and

435
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that was a really big deal for
them. Again in touchdown Atlantic, it's

436
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just there at some point it just
fell apart for them on the other units.

437
00:26:14.519 --> 00:26:18.000
But for their offense. Again,
it's kind of a shame that their

438
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receivers don't get more burned because I
really like the receiving corps. It may

439
00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:23.319
not be like the top end in
the league, but I really like some

440
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of these guys. Sean Baine has
been excellent, Samuel l and mlyss has

441
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a great skill set. I just
love the way that he comes out of

442
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his breaks when he catches the ball. I like Jake Wennicky. I mean

443
00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:40.200
he was really nice in Montreal,
really good third option there. I like

444
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the receiving corps a lot. And
Jamal Morrel is a solid back. He's

445
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a solid CFL running back. But
it just doesn't feel like they can really

446
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get a lot of this to mesh. Their off of the line obviously,

447
00:26:49.359 --> 00:26:53.319
is still you know, it's influx
because of some of the injuries and some

448
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of the early retirements that they had, Jason Labatt retiring two years ago after

449
00:26:57.400 --> 00:27:03.359
COVID because they hadn't played for over
a year, a couple of the other

450
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guys that they had a sorry Brandonabat, excuse me, Brandonbat who their tackles

451
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who retired from the team, And
so I think it's unfortunate because they just

452
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have a lot of skill position players
that I really like, but they just

453
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don't have the consistenty. They just
don't have the quarterback. They haven't had

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the quarterback for Gerardo, we know
just famously did not pan out after last

455
00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:32.200
year, just at some point just
broke down and you couldn't really do it

456
00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:37.200
anymore for Sakatchewan, I think that's
where it all stems from. And again

457
00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:40.720
with the coaching decisions, I mean, Dickinson's had some really questionable decisions in

458
00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:42.279
some of these games, and especially
in that BC game as well, So

459
00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:47.480
I don't know, I just don't
trust them. But in a game US

460
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survival, I mean, they might
be able to just kind of etch their

461
00:27:51.319 --> 00:27:52.880
way into a playoff spot. That's
really what they're trying to do. But

462
00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:56.200
as far as contenders go, no, they don't really have any staying power

463
00:27:56.240 --> 00:28:00.720
as far as making a run or
having any thing that they can do in

464
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the playoffs. But even when you
talk here and we'll get off of this

465
00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:07.680
game because we gotta get trucking here
on the couple other ones here, even

466
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when you look at this receiving corps, like you said, it's fine,

467
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:14.160
it's fine, But I mean,
look at look at BC's receiving corps,

468
00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:15.880
look at Winnipeg, look at you
know, Toronto, and this is this

469
00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:19.119
is fine, this is a finally
built team. You have Mason find as

470
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a quarterback. I don't see anything
spectacularly. Yeah, Sean Baine's really good,

471
00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:26.200
right and when he gets the ball, But you don't know, you

472
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don't have a quarterback that can elevate
any of these receivers. We've seen you

473
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Edmonton try to elevate the quarterback with
better receivers. I just don't see anything

474
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here meshing at all. I think
that there's going to be a lot of

475
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turnover here in the off season.
We already saw that, you know,

476
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going into this season, and I
think it's gonna go even further up and

477
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down. But I just I don't
see anything exciting to f I'm a Saskatchewan

478
00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:49.119
fan. I don't feel excited about
this win. And I don't feel excited

479
00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:52.559
about either beating Ottawa, like,
oh, the game came down to the

480
00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:56.079
end again, like gets excited,
you know, kind of this whole CFL

481
00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:57.960
thing. I don't know. I
just feel like there's not a lot of

482
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faith I would have insin Scatch one
and kind of the leadership there if I'm

483
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:03.839
a fan, Evan, do you
have anything else on this? We'll get

484
00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:10.440
to the the the whether we got
the tie Cats game, Evan, No,

485
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:14.480
nothing else? No, all right, so let's get over to this.

486
00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:18.519
I watched this CB I was out
or I had weddings both Friday Saturday,

487
00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:21.720
so I watched this on the CBS
Sports Network on demand, Aaron that

488
00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:26.279
demand, like record here, codey
ferjar though here, uh faltering at the

489
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:30.960
beginning, like Andy said, kind
of having his best, believe Mitchell impression

490
00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:36.839
here coming back winning, really rough
first half for Cody coming back Hamilton kind

491
00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:38.839
of following apart. I have some
notes that we'll go to. Evan.

492
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First, What did you make of
Taylor Powell everything else with the tie Cats?

493
00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:45.240
And like I said, yeah,
maybe this is why why Jason's out

494
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:49.599
today. Yeah, definitely. I
you know, I thought Hamilton might sneak

495
00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:53.400
away with a win here. I
was a strong believer in Taylor Powell and

496
00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:57.400
James Butler had a pretty nice game, even if it was on limited carries,

497
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you know, a big game in
the receiver department. But yeah,

498
00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:04.039
I don't know, it was just
a really you know, yeah, first

499
00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:08.000
half, like Hamilton looked like they
had some momentum and then Montreal just like

500
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exploded in the fourth quarter and you
know took the thing, you know,

501
00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:15.519
like right out of Hamilton's hands and
that was it. You know, that

502
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:19.799
was all she wrote. So I
don't know. I mean again, I

503
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don't know. Hamilton is just in
a you know, I don't I mean,

504
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:30.400
I know they've been in the rebuilding
spot for a bit. I think

505
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:33.160
that's safe to say. It doesn't
help the quarterback that they brought in to

506
00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:37.720
be the franchise guy has only played
in you know, so many games.

507
00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:41.160
Like even Matt Schiltz looked better than
him before he got injured. Right,

508
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:45.759
I'm talking about BULLIEVI Mitchell. Now
you have Taylor Powell, you know,

509
00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:48.920
a similar situation here to like Dustin
Crum, a guy who's never played before

510
00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:52.200
coming in and has asked to start
multiple games. Now, I don't know

511
00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:57.079
what the timeline is for Um,
what's his name Schiltz, But you know

512
00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:02.920
I expected I can't say I expected
a bit more from Taylor Powell because he's

513
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:07.480
only played in so many games.
But this was I don't know, this

514
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:11.960
left definitely some things to be desired. Now look through for two hundred yards

515
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:15.079
great, you know, completed twenty
pass is great, Like it wasn't all

516
00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:18.079
bad. But to be honest,
like I might, you know, I

517
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:22.920
would take Cody's performance over him in
this game, despite that first half.

518
00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:26.880
But let me just get into some
of the players here, because that's where

519
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:30.119
I really shine, and I'll,
you know, quit rambling on about things

520
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:34.480
that I don't don't one hundred percent
know about. But um so if I

521
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:38.279
look at you know, William stand
Back, will stand Back whatever. Um

522
00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:42.279
you know, we had talked about
him last week as finally kind of coming

523
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:45.839
on, and I think he had
eighty something yards last week or whatever,

524
00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:51.200
and now he had one hundred yard
game. First time in forever that I

525
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:53.039
can remember, he's had one hundred
yard game. You know, it didn't

526
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:56.359
score but average five point six,
so, you know, good, good

527
00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:00.720
for him. It's it's really nice
to see him finally get going because I

528
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:02.119
mean, you know, two years
ago, this guy, in my opinion,

529
00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:06.119
was one of the better all around
players in the CFL, not just

530
00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:07.960
at the running back position. But
I was a big will stand Back fan

531
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:13.799
and I still am, you know, nothing against him. Austin Mack.

532
00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:15.759
I mean, how many times have
I said his name on this show before?

533
00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:19.799
Um continuing to shine, you know, being at the top of the

534
00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:24.000
you know, receiving leaderboard. Tyler
Snead, No one's really talked about him

535
00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:27.440
a ton, but he's kind of
come on in recent weeks. Him and

536
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:31.160
Courtney Davis are starting to have larger
roles. I don't think Kayon Julian Grant

537
00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:35.079
played in this game. Um,
I believe was he on the sixth game?

538
00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:37.839
I don't know, but I think
he's out. Yeah, yeah,

539
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:40.559
he's I know he's out. I
read something about that, but I can't

540
00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:45.079
exactly remember it. Um, but
yeah, and then Tyson Philpott coming back.

541
00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:49.400
I think that was a big,
you know addition, And I mean

542
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:52.480
you talk about I'd said many times
before, you know, Montreal lost so

543
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:57.519
many receivers, but now it's almost
like they have not not more that they

544
00:32:57.559 --> 00:33:00.279
can handle, but they just have
so many guys that they can go to.

545
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:04.240
And I don't think it's necessarily like
on the same level as BC obviously,

546
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:06.960
just because a lot of these guys
aren't as experienced. But I mean,

547
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:08.519
you know, Tyson Philipop coming back, you know, he had four

548
00:33:08.599 --> 00:33:13.160
catches. And then I'm still waiting
to see what happens to Greg Ellingson because

549
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:15.599
that was the other guy that we
had mentioned for a while. And I

550
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:17.759
get he's a veteran now, so
probably gonna have a limited role one way

551
00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:21.359
or another. But you know,
I love Greg, He's a great guy

552
00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:24.200
and I've had an opportunity to talk
to him before, so hopefully see him

553
00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:29.720
back up back in the lineup at
some point. And then with Hamilton.

554
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:34.839
Yeah, Terry Godwin another name I
had mentioned previously who was a draft pick

555
00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:37.039
in the NFL and twenty nineteen.
Forget which team he went to. I

556
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:40.920
want to say Stealers or maybe Panthers, but he was. He was with

557
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:45.039
one of those teams at some point. You know. Nice to see him

558
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:46.640
catching on, you know, having
a larger role again, one of these

559
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:49.680
guys, you know, first year
in the league. It might take,

560
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:51.720
you know, a couple of weeks. I mean, here we are in

561
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:54.079
week nine and he's finally kind of
breaking out. So good to see him

562
00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:57.920
on that front. And then on
defense, you know, I feel like

563
00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:00.519
we never talked enough defense on this
show, or at least I don't.

564
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:02.240
I love, you know, offense
is my thing. I like talking about

565
00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:07.400
offensive players. But h Simony Lawrence
not a name that I've brought up on

566
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:09.320
the broadcast this year, but back
when I covered Hamilton, I mean it

567
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:14.360
was Simony Lawrence everything. You know, him and Brandon Banks. Really it

568
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:15.719
was those two guys that I was
talking about all the time, you know,

569
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:20.519
singing the praises whatever you want to
call it. But yeah, Simony

570
00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:22.679
Lawrence in this game. You know, this was kind of vintage. And

571
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:24.320
you know he's getting up there in
age. I mean you're talking about you

572
00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:28.400
know, he might be in his
you know, final season or a couple

573
00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:30.719
of seasons, whatever you want to
call it. You know, and especially

574
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:34.280
just given the state of the Hamilton
team. Uh, you know, is

575
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:36.440
he gonna want to move forward in
a rebuild? Like? Who knows?

576
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:39.159
I mean that the CFL is a
nowadays at least it's a short term league

577
00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:42.599
where everyone is kind of on a
one year deal. Um, you know,

578
00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:44.920
some guys might be on two year
deals if you're really good. But

579
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:47.119
that's another conversation for another day.
But yeah, it really was impressed by

580
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:51.119
Simony Lawrence in this game. I'm
really good to just see him out there,

581
00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:52.559
you know, kind of at full
force. Um, just given his

582
00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:54.679
age, and you know, like
it's just been such a long time since

583
00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:59.519
I feel like I've been able to, you know, mention him in a

584
00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:02.039
broad cast. I guess, Andy, how do you feel here? If

585
00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:05.719
you're a taie Cats fan? How
are we approaching this? Because they're in

586
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:07.440
the bye week now right there by? And I think I saw, do

587
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:10.960
you the JC Abbott had an article, yeah, that the elean they're gonna

588
00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:14.360
dress the elephants in the room during
the bye week. What do you make

589
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:16.719
here? It's a tack Cats fan. These are gonna be some big elephants,

590
00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:22.679
and I don't think they're gonna like
what they see. Look, I

591
00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:25.840
think Jason would be the first one
to tell you, are Jason not that

592
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:30.559
Jason there are Jason would tell you
that it's not happening. This Hamilton team

593
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:35.159
just doesn't have it. Unfortunately,
they don't have the horses they've needed to

594
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:37.719
rebuild for a while. They kept
trying to push all their ships in the

595
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:39.280
middle of the table. They need
to blow this up. It's not happening.

596
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:44.639
Taylor Powell, He's okay, He's
fine, nothing remarkable, nothing to

597
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:46.639
write home about. James Butler.
I mean, I like James Butler a

598
00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:50.719
lot. I wish they would run
the ball more. I can't believe they

599
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:54.320
keep trying to make fetch happen with
the pass game. It's absolutely maddening that

600
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:58.760
they don't try to run the ball
more, especially with Tyreek McAlister. How

601
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:00.519
is this guy not getting the ball
at least ten times a game? He

602
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:05.079
is explosive. I saw him come
out of the end zone and they kicked

603
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:07.800
it deep and it was in his
own end zone and he ran it out

604
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:09.920
to the thirty yard line. I
mean he almost had like an equivalent of

605
00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:14.079
a fifty yard return out of the
end zone to switch up field position.

606
00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:16.360
I mean, he really needs to
be dualized more often. Somebody's got to

607
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:21.960
get this guy the ball in his
hands. So for Hamilton, it's not

608
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:24.960
going to happen. And it's unfortunate
because they took a big swing on bow

609
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:28.360
leave by Mitchell. It didn't work. He got hurt, he didn't play

610
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:31.480
well when he was on the field. Obviously, they've had Matthew Schiltzby hurt

611
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:34.960
as well, which I think would
have helped some of it and mitigate some

612
00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:38.480
of the problems. But their defense
has gotten worse and worse they gave up

613
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:45.400
four hundred and twenty two yards to
Montreal and it's just not happening for Hamilton.

614
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:49.800
I think for them, they have
to take a long, hard look

615
00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:52.280
at a lot of the roster and
they might haven't got it. If Orlando

616
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:54.079
Steinhauer is going to be able to
stay around, he's gonna have to gut

617
00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:57.440
the entire roster, which I don't
know if he will at this point.

618
00:36:57.480 --> 00:37:00.400
If it's going to continue like this, I don't know if he's they're gonna

619
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:05.079
be walking around these hallways much longer. So for Hamilton, it's Bob Young,

620
00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:07.400
I'm sure is immenseally disappointed. Obviously. He keeps putting it in resources

621
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:12.159
and money into this team expecting to
win and break their great cup less streak,

622
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:15.440
and it's just not happening for them
this year in the East. As

623
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:20.000
far as Montreal goes, yeah,
Fjardo started off really rough. He threw

624
00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:23.320
just two really bad picks in the
first quarter and then he kind of got

625
00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:27.800
over it, but he played much
better. He's not taking as many sacks

626
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:30.480
finally, they finally kind of figured
that out. That was a big issue

627
00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:34.239
early on. He's not taking as
many as those now as the season progresses,

628
00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:37.960
I think the biggest takeaway here from
Montreal is William to stand back.

629
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:40.800
He's finally looking like himself and that's
great because we were not sure about him

630
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:45.039
last year after his injury. He
started to kind of slip away. But

631
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:47.480
he's looked fantastic for them this season. Really happy for him, and I

632
00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:51.079
think that's a huge key for them
going forward, just to have some sort

633
00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:53.360
of stability and offense, because Jardo
Canna be expected to do everything, but

634
00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:58.559
he's played well enough and probably better
in a lot of ways than needed last

635
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:01.880
year. But with what he has, one guy that I just absolutely still

636
00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:07.599
love and this Montreal team is Austin
mac His run after the cash ability is

637
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:09.679
fantastic. He had a little turnaround
in the first quarter and he just ran

638
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:13.559
away from a bunch of the defenders. I really like him a lot.

639
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:15.719
This receiving corp is really interesting.
It's just kind of an amalgamation of like

640
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:19.880
a bunch of random guys that all
kind of get done. I mean,

641
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:23.320
Tyler Sneed had that huge game against
Toronto and that back and forth that they

642
00:38:23.400 --> 00:38:28.960
had that one game a few weeks
ago, and I think they have enough

643
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:32.000
on offense to get it done.
Obviously they want to, I think put

644
00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:36.280
more emphasis on their defense and having
that be the calling card for this team.

645
00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:39.239
But offensively they can just I guess
for me, their threshold is like,

646
00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:42.519
you can score twenty points. I
think he got a good chance to

647
00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:46.039
win your game. So for Montreal, I could clearly see them being the

648
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:52.039
second team in the East coming out
and probably matching up with Toronto again,

649
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:54.280
maybe in like the Eastern Conference finals. Again. We'll see, but I

650
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:58.719
think that's kind of what we're destined
for again. This Montreal team has enough

651
00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:01.480
resources, whereas you know, the
rest of the division just doesn't have it

652
00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:06.000
together. Ottawa. I really want
Ottawa to start stepping it up again,

653
00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:08.199
but they're going through a lot of
their own issues. So Montreal I think

654
00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:13.639
has pushed the right buttons so far
this season, and they played pretty well

655
00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:19.039
even in situations where they're you know, offensively not getting it done, or

656
00:39:19.559 --> 00:39:22.360
if they just don't seem to have
enough on one side of the ball,

657
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:25.000
another side of the ball kind of
makes up for it. We got Tim

658
00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:28.679
Cavert check it in here, go
als go. He's gotta be happy.

659
00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:31.320
You gotta be happy. You know, we're winning, winning, record here.

660
00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:39.480
I had a couple of notes they
had Coat had a couple of bad

661
00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:44.880
chanks for aulettes. He's normally pretty
reliable. Milt Steagel was kind of calling

662
00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:45.880
for his head at the halftime,
like, well, you know, if

663
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:49.519
you have a figure, they can't
kick. I like that. He was

664
00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:52.760
kind of a chippy game. I
mean felt kind of you know, felt

665
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:58.199
really high stakes in that regard,
felt very you know, kind of divisional

666
00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:01.599
right, kind of felt that way. They they had Jason Moss's keys to

667
00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:06.719
quarterback success. He need to be
tough, smart and accurate. That is

668
00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:10.440
what he says. Andy, is
Cody Fragardo tough? Because they said they

669
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:15.760
basically said Cody Fajardo was tough,
which means he's not smart nor accurate.

670
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:19.440
That was a sideline reporter that was
mean, what do you make of that?

671
00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:22.599
Is Cody Fgardo? He need a
tough, smart, accurate quarterback.

672
00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:27.480
I mean, you know, meat
loaf song is two out of three ain't

673
00:40:27.519 --> 00:40:30.360
bad, not one of three ain't
bad. So I guess that's not really

674
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:36.920
voting well for mister Fraggardo. But
I look, that guy does get beat

675
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:38.559
up. I cannot believe he has
not sustained more injuries in his career.

676
00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:43.039
That guy takes a licking every time
he goes out there, whether he's thinking

677
00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:45.719
of sack or not. That that
man just keeps getting body blows. But

678
00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:51.880
yeah, maybe mister Moss wants to
rephrase that that wording a little bit first

679
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:53.880
quarterback, But look, I don't
know what else he's gonna expect to have

680
00:40:54.119 --> 00:40:58.679
out of his quarterbacks besides Frigardo.
Like, compared to the rest of the

681
00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:01.559
league, I think they're actually pretty
a standing considering what we've seen this season.

682
00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:05.760
I think they should be thinking they're
lucky stars that he's out there and

683
00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:08.079
he's performing in the level that he
is. So for them, I mean

684
00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:15.880
he's Yes, he still makes some
bone headed decisions, but he overall is

685
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:21.639
able to make enough plays on offense
for this team to be competitive in every

686
00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:23.000
game that they play. I haven't
seen them really be out of a game.

687
00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:25.840
I've seen them be a little bit
inefficient, sure, but I haven't

688
00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:29.559
really seen them be completely out of
a game. I want to see them

689
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:35.480
play, you know again, play
play teams up to the standard like Toronto

690
00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:38.000
Winnipeg BC. They're not quite in
that tier yet they're not. They're just

691
00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:43.880
they're below that tier, that echelon
of of really really outstanding teams in the

692
00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:47.119
league. So they're right below that. I'm not sure what their secret ingredient

693
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:51.039
would be to get to that level. I don't think they quite have the

694
00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:53.679
roster for it, and I don't
think they have the playmaking to really match

695
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:58.880
any of those three teams. But
again, like Forgardo, for what for

696
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:01.559
what it's worth is going to get
you a certain plateau of wins in a

697
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:07.440
certain floor of performance. You may
not have as much of a ceiling as

698
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:09.239
you would hope, but I think
as far as floor goes, it's gonna

699
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:13.599
be better than guys like Mason Fine, guys like Taylor Powell, guys like

700
00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:16.320
probably probably Crumb. I hate to
say that, but Crumbs still figuring out

701
00:42:16.320 --> 00:42:20.000
all this stuff. He has a
lot of upside, but I think his

702
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:22.039
floor is still a little bit low. Whereas Jardo is going to be consistent

703
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:24.800
enough that he's not going to get
you into a lot of trouble most of

704
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:28.960
the time. Obviously his first quarter
was not good, but after that he

705
00:42:29.159 --> 00:42:32.280
settled out and figured it out.
Evan anything else in this one will double

706
00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:36.039
time the lob. But I want
to get to the Chack Kelly something on

707
00:42:36.159 --> 00:42:37.000
I know, and he's got to
head out here soon. Anything else on

708
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:39.199
this one, Evan, Yeah,
I don't think so. I want to

709
00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:42.880
get to this Toronto game though,
because that one one I think might be

710
00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:46.320
well maybe the most to talk about
outside of the Saskatchewan Outawo games. Andy,

711
00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:49.480
do you want to give your two
cents on this, because I know

712
00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:52.159
you gotta jump off here and then
we can Evan and I can tackle this

713
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:54.320
and then the BC game as far
as the Toronto game goes, Yeah,

714
00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:59.239
yeah, Look, I just hope
Chack Kelly comes back as all right like

715
00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:02.880
that is really unfortunate that he got
hurt in this game, and obviously their

716
00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:06.480
offense just completely sputtered. And I
have to say this, I got to

717
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:09.039
eat micro Mike Mitchell, you were
right. This team knows how to play

718
00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:14.320
Calgary knows how to play Toronto.
This staff knew Dinwittie, they knew his

719
00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:17.280
offensive scheme, they knew his style, and they took him to the woodshed,

720
00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:22.559
especially after Chad Kelly got hurt.
It's real shame because I thought Toronto

721
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:24.320
was going to play much better.
They didn't. Calgary, I still think

722
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:29.480
has a lot to figure out.
But I mean this was a prime time

723
00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:31.920
matchup for them as far as to
get right game, and they clearly took

724
00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:36.960
advantage of it. So I have
to give Mike Mitchell's regards. I thought

725
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:40.800
Toronto was just going to straight up
out talent this team and completely blow them

726
00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:44.880
out of the water because I just
thought they had way too many resources.

727
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:47.280
Clearly there's limitations to that, especially
when your star quarterback gets hurt. So

728
00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:52.400
there you go, all right,
Andy, appreciate it. Gets your meeting

729
00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:57.039
that Evan and I will talk about
this. Evan insane stat line here,

730
00:43:57.159 --> 00:44:00.599
Jake Mayer and you know the efficiency
coming back here, we had the Chad

731
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:01.840
Kelly's et all, what did you
make it? This? This was not

732
00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:05.480
what I was expecting. I was
at a wedding and been following this along.

733
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:09.039
Was not expecting the twenty to seventh
victory over with Calgary. Yeah.

734
00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:12.880
Well, let me put it this
way. I think a lot of people

735
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:15.559
are gonna say, well Calgary one, you know, because Chad Kelly got

736
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:20.599
hurt for Toronto. Personally, I
think even if Chad Kelly stayed in that

737
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:22.760
whole game, I think Calgary would
have still had a pretty good shot.

738
00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:25.079
I'm not gonna say they would win
out right or by this much, but

739
00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:29.079
I think they would have definitely been
in the running and probably could have pulled

740
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:31.960
away because like, I mean,
yeah, Calgary knows how to play Toronto.

741
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:35.679
Mike Mitchell was saying that, and
it was just true. I mean,

742
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:37.519
this was you know, Toronto.
I mean, you want to talk

743
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:40.719
about coming back down to earth.
I mean, you know, this made

744
00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:45.119
Calgary look I mean, I don't
even think Calgary was that impressive in this

745
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:49.440
game, but it made them look
extremely competitive, like they could, you

746
00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:52.760
know, run with the top guys
in the league. And personally, I

747
00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:54.079
still don't think that. I mean, look, I'll talk about the Calgary

748
00:44:54.119 --> 00:44:57.960
side first, that we can get
into Toronto. So you know, I'm

749
00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:00.400
looking at like Jake Mayer, I
mean, yeah, at you know,

750
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:02.760
completed twenty two of twenty four passes, great, but only through four one

751
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:06.239
hundred and forty nine yards. Didn't
have a touchdown. I mean, yeah,

752
00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:08.119
you didn't turn the ball over,
but still pretty pedestrian. Like this

753
00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:12.800
kind of shows me that, you
know, you were being very reserved kind

754
00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:15.639
of short passes. Now, this
I didn't watch a ton of this game

755
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:19.559
outside of the first quarter. But
I will say, you know, Dedrick

756
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:22.039
Mills, we had talked about him
at the top of the season a bit.

757
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:22.639
You know, it was kind of
one of the you know, bigger

758
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:25.920
names. I mean, he was
the one who really carried the offense in

759
00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:30.000
this game more than anybody. I
mean, yeah, Like, you know,

760
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:31.760
there were a couple of guys being
worked in the receiving corps, like

761
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:36.400
Tommy Lee Lewis obviously, who we've
talked about two but like, nobody really

762
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:38.760
had an impressive game on the statute
in that department. I mean, outside

763
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:42.840
of Dedrick Mills, you know,
like Jake Mayer didn't really have to do

764
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:45.360
a lot, is what I'm really
trying to get out here. And I

765
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:47.519
don't know, outside of that,
I really don't think there's much to say

766
00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:51.480
for Calgary. They just kind of, you know, got the job done.

767
00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:53.440
That's all. It's they didn't.
It didn't take a lot for them

768
00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:58.000
to pull away in this one.
You know, again once the Kelly injury

769
00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:00.840
set in, and I mean just
all out a really slow day for Toronto

770
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:05.119
too. I mean outside of well, I mean, the most beautiful play

771
00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:08.159
in my opinion of probably the whole
CFL weekend. Was that Cam Phillips touchdown?

772
00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:12.480
That was just I was gorgeous.
I mean, yeah, I'm biased,

773
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:14.719
you know, I get it.
You know, I watched cam Phillips

774
00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:16.559
in twenty twenty whatever, But I
mean, come on, how can you

775
00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:20.360
not like that? I mean,
that was vintage right there. I say

776
00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:22.360
vintage cam Phillips, even though it
was only like three years ago that he

777
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:24.880
was doing that stuff. But hey, I mean it feels like a long

778
00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:29.079
time with the way the world's been, and you know how so many different

779
00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:31.760
careers have branched off for certain guys. But no, I think the real

780
00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:36.280
I think that the big, big
elephant in the room here is Chad Kelly.

781
00:46:36.320 --> 00:46:37.760
I mean, we can't, you
know, talk about this game without

782
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:43.159
talking about what happened to him.
I actually didn't get to see his injury,

783
00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:45.280
but you know, clearly it was
enough to where they you know,

784
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:49.679
kept him out of the game.
And I think the more surprising part was

785
00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:52.880
that they put Cam Dukes in the
game over Brian Scott. Now we'll get

786
00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:58.960
into the you know, my new
endeavors later, but it's been known that

787
00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:02.320
Cameron Dukes used to play for the
Vegas Nighthawks and that springboarded his opportunity to

788
00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:07.280
the CFL. You know, Cam
has been very good in short yardage this

789
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:10.119
yere um, there's no doubt about
that. But I was just kind of

790
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:14.559
surprised to see him, Like,
I just don't know if he was ready

791
00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:16.000
for this type of, you know, opportunity where he had to come into

792
00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:19.880
a game and start throwing the boat. Now. I wish things were different.

793
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:21.679
I wish Cam went out there and
threw for you know, one hundred

794
00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:23.800
yards, two touchdowns, whatever,
But you know, the reality is there's

795
00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:27.639
gonna be some growing pains. And
I think Naylor was the one who said,

796
00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:30.760
you know, the one thing nobody
talked about during the preseason was you

797
00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:35.480
know, the like who's behind Chad
Kelly, it's um, you know,

798
00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:38.960
it was Cam Dukes and Brian Scott
and then you know, the other guy

799
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:43.400
that had was Reid's best friend,
Ben Holmes, but that didn't work out

800
00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:45.039
either, so you know, yeah, no one really talked about that.

801
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:47.480
And then in this game, I
think there were a lot of fans like,

802
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:50.559
oh, you know, who's this, who's this Cam Dukes guy?

803
00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:52.800
You know, we've only you know, seen him on short yardage A couple

804
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:58.000
of plays this season. Um,
I was surprised that they didn't put Brian

805
00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:00.639
Scott and I don't know if it
was just you know, maybe Dukes has

806
00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:04.079
done a bit more for them,
maybe he's more like I don't know,

807
00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:07.159
Like again, Brian is Brian's a
great guy. I'll pull for him any

808
00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:09.519
day, and I thought this was
his chance, but you know, maybe

809
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:14.400
right now there's just other things they
want to see and they wanted to give

810
00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:16.639
Cam his fair shot, and that's
great, Like he really deserves it.

811
00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:20.199
I mean Cam is at a pretty
quick, you know, rise to the

812
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:22.639
top here. And to see a
guy you know from the Naia level,

813
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:25.920
you know, who went through indoor
football to get to the CFL and is

814
00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:29.840
throwing passes, I mean, you
know that that's a story I really want

815
00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:30.800
to hear about. I don't care
if you know he threw a pick or

816
00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:35.239
whatever, you know, only completed
half of his past is like I think,

817
00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:37.960
you know, his rise here is
pretty impressive. And that was my

818
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:42.480
positive takeaway from this game because like, if you're Toronto, I mean you're

819
00:48:42.519 --> 00:48:44.760
walking away from this one thinking,
geez, you know, we were on

820
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:46.880
top of the world. Now things
are kind of you know, coming crashing

821
00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:50.599
down and obviously, I mean,
look, Toronto's fine, They're in a

822
00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:52.840
fine position. This isn't saying there's
seasons over anything like that, but it

823
00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:57.320
just, you know, I think
we can use the term humbled here.

824
00:48:57.360 --> 00:49:00.320
You know, they got humbled real
quick, and that's just that's the way

825
00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:04.519
the game is this time now.
For Calgary, they absolutely needed this win.

826
00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:07.199
I mean, if you're losing this
game, regardless of whether Chad Kelly's

827
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:09.000
healthy or not, I mean you're
sitting to what two and six, and

828
00:49:09.119 --> 00:49:13.079
by that point, you know,
Saskatchewan. I mean I was saying earlier

829
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:15.599
they kind of control their own destiny, but like hell, I mean,

830
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:20.480
Saskatchewan would have been in a really
nice spot had Calgary you know, lost

831
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:22.719
this weekend, sitting there at five
hundred, you know, and they got

832
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:25.239
their win against Ottawa, so yeah, I mean, you know that,

833
00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:28.840
then it kind of becomes a numbers
game. But all around, I think

834
00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:32.199
that's what made this game interesting.
It wasn't necessarily the play for some of

835
00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:37.639
it. I mean, you know, my obviously strong point is talking about

836
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:39.239
players, but for this one,
it was really about more about you know,

837
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:45.039
standings and kind of you know,
like where guys are and what this

838
00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:47.719
means long term, if that makes
sense? No to Like you said,

839
00:49:47.719 --> 00:49:51.840
I had the standings here, like
yeah, if you if you're going,

840
00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:54.960
if you're a Calgary here and you're
two and six, it's terrifying, terrifying

841
00:49:55.079 --> 00:49:58.960
here, you know, especially in
the West and everything. A couple of

842
00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:01.280
things and then we'll pull the band
aid off here and talking about BC.

843
00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:06.159
This was interesting. I had saved
and like you said, you know,

844
00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:08.599
the stat line could be misleading because
it was only for however, wait,

845
00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:12.000
what was it? How many yards
was it? You know, for one

846
00:50:12.079 --> 00:50:15.599
hundred and four that yards? But
Jake Mayer had the fourth highest completion hating

847
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:22.800
in CFLA history, insane, insane. Why I didn't know that? I

848
00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:24.280
mean, hell, I mean honestly, that by itself, I will say,

849
00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:28.039
like, yeah, I mean I
think people are going to focus more

850
00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:30.840
on the yards, but completely twenty
two passes, it is not easy.

851
00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:32.239
And if you're only throwing twenty four
of them, I mean yeah, like

852
00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:36.400
it doesn't I don't want to say
the yards don't matter, but like,

853
00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:39.239
I can't discredit Jake Mayer. Again, I've gone on record being a huge

854
00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:42.639
Jake Mayor fans. So if anything, you know I'm going to support the

855
00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:45.039
guy here and root for him.
And it's nice to see Nathan Roark on

856
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:49.480
that list too, I will say. And I'm pretty sure I don't know

857
00:50:49.559 --> 00:50:52.480
if that was the game I was
at where he went thirty four thirty seven,

858
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:54.519
but he remember he had a pretty
high completion percentage while I was there

859
00:50:55.119 --> 00:50:58.719
last year in Edmonton. And the
last thing I'm bringing up about this game

860
00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:01.320
actually has to do with next week, because I'll be seeing Calgary live next

861
00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:06.199
week in BC UM, so looking
forward to that. And again maybe that's

862
00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:08.079
why I also found this game more
interesting and well, I was paying more

863
00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:10.920
attention, kind of like a you
know, what, what should I expect

864
00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:15.000
going into next week's gain? Yeah, this is anytime we see Nathan mark

865
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:20.079
On, we still exist, Nathan, Yeah, I'm still here if you

866
00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:22.519
want to talk to us. Uh. The other thing, Yeah, we're

867
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:27.400
looking at the schedule here when it
pum what is it? Uh? Toronto?

868
00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:30.840
Here? If you want to have
a bounce back, I think here

869
00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:34.599
Ottawa at Toronto. I think that
would be good. I think that's gonna

870
00:51:34.599 --> 00:51:37.360
be rowdy. They're going to be
motivated with all that. Hopefully you have

871
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:43.039
a motivated a BC team here coming
into that do I guess we need to

872
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:45.679
rip the band aid off? Here? Are we ready to talk about this?

873
00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:51.000
Blad, I'm ready. I just
don't know if you are. Yeah,

874
00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:53.440
so this was, you know,
and this is so I think this

875
00:51:53.639 --> 00:51:58.559
happened last year too, and I
need to doing these. It was one

876
00:51:58.599 --> 00:52:00.920
of the game. It was the
game where Nathan Wark got hurt. And

877
00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:02.159
I think we did the same thing. I think we did like a pre

878
00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:05.719
game. I'm like, oh,
this is the big like Thursday, and

879
00:52:05.800 --> 00:52:07.880
I like, we're getting all excited
and then I get Dorothy. We go

880
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:12.000
sit downstairs. And that was a
game with Nathan Wark got hurt and we

881
00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:14.239
didn't know at the time, you
know, like at the time that doesn't

882
00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:17.039
look very good, ended up being
very poor. Let's get into this.

883
00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:22.280
I had tweeted, and I had
many angry tweets. I'll pull up.

884
00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:24.639
I needed Evan, my director of
therapist here of this. I just don't

885
00:52:24.679 --> 00:52:28.679
I'm fine being a fan, you
know, because I'm not like, I'm

886
00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:31.239
not the Danny Austens of the world. Danny, I'm a reporter. Like

887
00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:34.960
I don't cheer from my team.
I cheer. I'm a fan. I

888
00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:38.239
just don't want to be embarrassed,
and everybody big put up fifty points against

889
00:52:38.320 --> 00:52:43.800
BC. I finally I had my
split screen and the Mariners took priority because

890
00:52:43.800 --> 00:52:45.880
at least we came back and won
with a grand slam. Kaid Marlow in

891
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:49.800
the top of the ninth. Heer
to win that one. But this was

892
00:52:49.880 --> 00:52:52.519
a terrible, no good, very
bad game. Evan. What did you

893
00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:54.639
make of this one? Yeah,
I mean, there's a lot to talk

894
00:52:54.679 --> 00:52:58.760
about, and there's also not much
to talk about, depending on which side

895
00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:00.800
do you want to take. I
mean, I remember I was out with

896
00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:04.880
Andy a couple days ago and he
was saying, yeah, I think Winnipeg's

897
00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:07.280
gonna you know, you know,
beat I beat maybe beat the Brakes off

898
00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:10.840
BC. He definitely said they were
gonna beat him, and I, yeah,

899
00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:15.239
I read I agreed with that statement, just because you know, I

900
00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:16.760
feel like, you know, BC
was kind of due for one of these

901
00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:22.599
games. Now, maybe I don't
know, like they went from you know,

902
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:25.239
get they went from pitching a shutout
to giving up fifty points, So

903
00:53:25.519 --> 00:53:29.920
maybe I wasn't expecting that part of
it. But they were due for a

904
00:53:29.960 --> 00:53:32.119
game like this. And I say
that because, you know, the reality

905
00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:36.119
is I mean they've been they've been
a good team. They've been a really

906
00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:38.320
good team. They've been holding momentum
for a long time. But every team

907
00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:40.480
kind of has this, and you
can just sense like, okay, like

908
00:53:40.599 --> 00:53:43.480
at some point, like you know, things are gonna give out. Look

909
00:53:43.519 --> 00:53:45.360
at Toronto. I mean again,
as I said before, like you know,

910
00:53:45.480 --> 00:53:49.320
Chad Kelly, whether he gets hurt
or not, maybe doesn't matter because

911
00:53:49.360 --> 00:53:51.800
Calgary has them, you know,
figured out, probably more than maybe any

912
00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:54.199
other team in the league at this
point. But yeah, ultimately, you

913
00:53:54.239 --> 00:53:58.559
know, I'll start with the Winnipeg
side, you know, the more positive

914
00:53:58.599 --> 00:54:00.840
side of this game, at least
if you're a Winnipeg fan. Um,

915
00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:05.559
you know, so I was really
impressed. I mean, you know,

916
00:54:05.639 --> 00:54:07.559
look, everyone's gonna talk about Zach
Claros, you know, three hundred and

917
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:10.480
sixty nine yards, three touchdowns,
but we're used to that at this point.

918
00:54:10.559 --> 00:54:14.079
That's like just a good Zach Claro's
performance. Like I don't really think

919
00:54:14.119 --> 00:54:16.760
you need to discuss that much,
you know further, and I mean even

920
00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:21.159
Drew Brown came in two of two
seventy eight yards and a touchdown. I

921
00:54:21.199 --> 00:54:25.519
mean, yeah, Brown, I
know, like I you know, Drew

922
00:54:25.559 --> 00:54:29.320
Brown another like you know, short
yardage kind of guy, like you don't

923
00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:31.400
really hear about him, and I, you know, not a player I'm

924
00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:36.320
extremely familiar with. I think he
was at Hawaii and then Oklahoma State something

925
00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:37.800
like that. Um. But then, yeah, what I really want to

926
00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:42.320
talk about here is the run game, because as weird as it sounds,

927
00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:45.840
I mean they had like even Dakota
Preucop had two carries for twenty one yards

928
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:46.840
in this game. Like they just
had. I mean, if you look

929
00:54:46.920 --> 00:54:51.320
like they had, you know,
Britty Oliver at their top rusher average seven

930
00:54:51.400 --> 00:54:53.480
point four yards per carry, had
two rushing touchdowns, now again only on

931
00:54:53.599 --> 00:54:58.800
nine carries, but still extremely efficient. And then you had two guys blow

932
00:54:58.840 --> 00:55:00.840
that, Nick Demski and Dako to
Prukop. Like I said, you know,

933
00:55:00.880 --> 00:55:05.559
both those guys averaged over ten yards
of carry only two carries, but

934
00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:07.440
hey, like you know those are
still you know, big runs in themselves.

935
00:55:08.760 --> 00:55:12.199
And then you know he had a
couple of guys after that, nothing

936
00:55:12.239 --> 00:55:15.480
too much. Greg McCray maybe had
you know a couple m one eleven yard

937
00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:20.519
run. It looks like then you
get to the receiving corps and this is

938
00:55:20.559 --> 00:55:24.119
where it just explodes I mean,
I don't know if I had mentioned Kenny

939
00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:28.719
Lawler at all on this show prior
to now, or maybe prior to last

940
00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:31.400
week. But Kenny Lawler, I
mean, has immediately come in. And

941
00:55:31.719 --> 00:55:36.800
if you thought that this offense already
wasn't explosive, I mean, Kenny Lawler

942
00:55:36.920 --> 00:55:38.199
was just the icing on the cake. Not that they even needed him,

943
00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:43.920
but my god, I mean this
guy, I you know, I honestly

944
00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:46.119
thought he might have lost a step
and it was going to take him maybe

945
00:55:46.159 --> 00:55:51.519
a month to get up to speed. Clearly not clearly, the pre existing

946
00:55:51.559 --> 00:55:53.480
connection is still there. You know, this is where he wants to be.

947
00:55:54.000 --> 00:55:58.119
I mean, I just that was
a phenomenal. I mean, you

948
00:55:58.199 --> 00:56:01.280
can't two hundred receiving yards in game
on seven catches. I mean that does

949
00:56:01.400 --> 00:56:07.239
not happen very often. And you
know that. I don't he man,

950
00:56:07.679 --> 00:56:09.840
just just hats off to Kenny Laller. I won't, you know, salivate

951
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:14.119
over him for too long. But
um, you know, Dalton shown another

952
00:56:14.199 --> 00:56:16.239
one. You know, he was
extremely good last year. Dalton Shone was

953
00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:20.679
kind of everyone talked about Nathan Roork
last year, but Dalton Shone was kind

954
00:56:20.719 --> 00:56:23.320
of another you know, breakout star
m still doing it here in year two

955
00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:28.000
and then you know you had a
deep Rashid Bailey touchdown. Shout out to

956
00:56:28.039 --> 00:56:30.199
Rashid Bailey. Man, that guy's
been doing it for I don't know how

957
00:56:30.280 --> 00:56:32.039
long. He was a Division three
guy too, and he's crafted. I

958
00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:36.639
mean, he's probably making like so
rare to see a guy from that level,

959
00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:39.559
you know, have like a long
pro football career. But the reality

960
00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:43.639
is that can happen in the CFL. I mean, Jake Serezna is another

961
00:56:43.719 --> 00:56:45.960
D three player up in this league
and those guys are killing it. So

962
00:56:46.079 --> 00:56:50.039
shout out to you know, uh, Rashid Bailey. Any any D three

963
00:56:50.079 --> 00:56:54.039
players up in Canada really looking at
the defense? I don't know, I

964
00:56:54.079 --> 00:56:57.880
mean their defense. You know,
they only gave up fourteen points. But

965
00:56:58.039 --> 00:57:00.159
I don't really think there were any
players that stood out out too much.

966
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:05.199
I mean, Damario Houston had an
interception and he's been Damario Houston has been

967
00:57:05.320 --> 00:57:09.840
a very kind of steady contributor I
think for that Bomber's dum But now now

968
00:57:09.920 --> 00:57:14.840
I'll get into the BC side of
things, they're not so great the side

969
00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:19.000
of things. I won't be too
critical here because again, like I said,

970
00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:21.559
I think this game was just kind
of bound to happen at one point.

971
00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:23.719
And again, you know, BC, the reality is like without Vernon,

972
00:57:23.760 --> 00:57:27.679
I mean, they're they're dealing with
some issues. It's not like they're

973
00:57:27.679 --> 00:57:31.039
still a good team, but they're
not exactly complete right now. So Dan

974
00:57:31.119 --> 00:57:35.800
Evans um. You know, we
had talked about Dan Evans last week.

975
00:57:35.840 --> 00:57:37.039
I said, you know, he
had a very solid performance. You know,

976
00:57:37.400 --> 00:57:42.039
would definitely take him again. But
then Dan Evans has these things where

977
00:57:42.079 --> 00:57:44.800
you say that and then the next
week he goes out and you're like,

978
00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:46.239
Okay, well maybe maybe I need
to take my word back on that.

979
00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:50.000
Now. Again, I still think
Dane's a good quarterback. I would take

980
00:57:50.079 --> 00:57:54.119
him over Mason fine, but yeah, this one just you know it,

981
00:57:54.679 --> 00:57:58.360
it really left a lot to be
desired. And you know, Dane,

982
00:57:58.840 --> 00:58:00.760
I think this is the reality as
to why he's not starting in the CFL,

983
00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:04.440
just because there's so much inconsistency.
Now, again, it doesn't mean

984
00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:07.400
he's a bad quarterback. That's something
he can easily work on. And it's

985
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:09.280
hard when you're not getting game reps
all the time, Like it took the

986
00:58:09.440 --> 00:58:14.719
Vernon injury for BC to even consider
playing him because Vernon was playing so well,

987
00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:15.559
and we had talked prior to the
season. You know, it was

988
00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:19.280
like, I mean there was a
time where you know, Dane Evans and

989
00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:22.159
Vernon like, I think that battle
was closer than a lot of us may

990
00:58:22.199 --> 00:58:24.400
be expected, or you know how
it turned out whatever, And then you

991
00:58:24.480 --> 00:58:29.079
had Dom Davis come in and Dom
Davis won eight of eighteen for seventy six

992
00:58:29.199 --> 00:58:31.079
yards. Not a whole lot better, Like, yeah, he didn't throw

993
00:58:31.119 --> 00:58:35.639
any interceptions, but I mean,
you know, he didn't necessarily complete a

994
00:58:35.679 --> 00:58:37.800
lot of passes, and I just
I don't know, one of those games

995
00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:40.119
where you just kind of feel defeated, you don't really know what to do.

996
00:58:42.760 --> 00:58:46.440
The receiving corps they did what they
could. I'll say that it definitely

997
00:58:46.519 --> 00:58:50.480
wasn't a great day for them,
just because I mean the quarterbacks were only

998
00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:53.679
thrown for so many yards. But
you know it was I mean, what

999
00:58:53.840 --> 00:58:57.320
are you gonna expect, right,
Like, it's when when you're down,

1000
00:58:57.440 --> 00:59:00.960
I mean, when you're giving up
fifty points and then the BC defense,

1001
00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:06.320
well, there's not a whole lot
to say. Biseco la combo. What

1002
00:59:06.599 --> 00:59:08.559
was good in this game? Despite
the team giving up fifty points. He

1003
00:59:08.679 --> 00:59:13.599
had a nice outing, but yeah, outside of that, I mean,

1004
00:59:14.119 --> 00:59:15.760
just not a lot to talk about. I think this is a game.

1005
00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:20.199
If you're BC, a fan,
player, coach, whatever, onto the

1006
00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:22.079
next one. Just onto the next
one. Don't even think about this because

1007
00:59:22.559 --> 00:59:27.000
the reality is I mean, you
are going to be running with Winnipeg for

1008
00:59:27.119 --> 00:59:29.559
that spot probably in the Great Cup
in the West. And I've been saying

1009
00:59:29.599 --> 00:59:32.440
that for a while now. You
know, you can't let this affect your

1010
00:59:32.559 --> 00:59:36.079
play for the rest of the season, Like this is a game you absolutely

1011
00:59:36.159 --> 00:59:38.400
need to move on from immediately.
It's embarrassing, it sucks, whatever,

1012
00:59:38.599 --> 00:59:40.559
move on, get on with it. It's like that's football, you know.

1013
00:59:40.639 --> 00:59:44.039
I mean you could say that about
a lot of teams, but I'm

1014
00:59:44.079 --> 00:59:47.760
saying this is really important here,
this kind of ideology or whatever you wanna

1015
00:59:47.760 --> 00:59:52.760
call it, because you know,
again BC in Winnipeg, like those are

1016
00:59:52.760 --> 00:59:54.039
the top two teams. I think
those guys are gonna be in the Western

1017
00:59:54.119 --> 00:59:58.199
Final and there's not much of a
question about It would take a huge upset

1018
00:59:58.400 --> 01:00:01.559
for maybe Saskatchewan, which I don't
see happening unless you know, injuries depleted

1019
01:00:01.559 --> 01:00:04.840
a team or something. But it
would take like a really big upset,

1020
01:00:05.159 --> 01:00:07.880
you know, for it not to
be BC in Winnipeg playing in that game,

1021
01:00:07.320 --> 01:00:10.280
and the reality is BC can beat
Winnipeg. They did it earlier in

1022
01:00:10.320 --> 01:00:14.280
the season and it was almost the
opposite of what we saw, where Winnipeg

1023
01:00:14.360 --> 01:00:15.960
was on the side of like,
we shouldn't forget about it, you know,

1024
01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:16.960
we need to move on, you
don't get rid of it, and

1025
01:00:17.039 --> 01:00:20.800
then they met. Winnipeg's had a
couple games like that this year, the

1026
01:00:20.840 --> 01:00:25.360
Ottawa one. Definitely it came to
get off the slate. But yeah,

1027
01:00:25.400 --> 01:00:29.159
you know, I think if you're
a BC, I mean you just really

1028
01:00:29.239 --> 01:00:30.360
have to you know, you go
on to Calgary, you go on to

1029
01:00:30.840 --> 01:00:34.599
you know, the rest of the
slate, and you just you worry about

1030
01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:37.559
this again when it's time not you
know, why do we play so poorly?

1031
01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:39.480
You know what do we need to
do better? I don't really think,

1032
01:00:40.679 --> 01:00:43.440
yeah, like, obviously you need
to play better. Okay, you

1033
01:00:43.440 --> 01:00:46.239
give it fifty points, But it's
less about you know, them changing the

1034
01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:50.599
strategy. I just think it's you
know, getting back to full health.

1035
01:00:50.880 --> 01:00:52.599
You know, maybe you need to
recharge again. You needed to be humbled.

1036
01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:54.960
Just like I said about Toronto,
It's it's about being humbled, you

1037
01:00:55.079 --> 01:00:58.519
take a step back, you look
at things at the bigger picture. I

1038
01:00:58.639 --> 01:01:02.079
have no doubt BC is gonna go
out next week and beat Calgary. I

1039
01:01:02.119 --> 01:01:05.760
don't know about how much I'll say
ten right now. I don't want to.

1040
01:01:06.039 --> 01:01:07.679
I'm gonna be there at that game. So dare I say anything you

1041
01:01:07.719 --> 01:01:10.760
know, too extravagant? But um, yeah, no, I think that's

1042
01:01:10.840 --> 01:01:14.079
kind of where I stand on that
game as a whole. And you know

1043
01:01:14.119 --> 01:01:15.000
a lot of people are gonna look
at that and be like, geez,

1044
01:01:15.079 --> 01:01:17.599
like what happened to BC? You
know, thinks we're going so great?

1045
01:01:17.639 --> 01:01:21.159
Well they are still great? You
know, yeah, maybe I'm biased whatever,

1046
01:01:21.280 --> 01:01:23.199
But I said that about Winnipeg when
they lost to Ottawa. Okay,

1047
01:01:23.280 --> 01:01:27.320
yeah, they had a bad game, So what Winnipeg's still gonna be a

1048
01:01:27.360 --> 01:01:30.079
great Cup contention. It's not the
end of the world. Well, I

1049
01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:32.280
yeah, I got a couple of
things. Heis. I had to this

1050
01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:38.039
out because back wh back when we
had lost you know, that quins a

1051
01:01:38.199 --> 01:01:40.760
collapse and I did that wassentially if
they had lost it, So, you

1052
01:01:40.800 --> 01:01:44.440
know, revisited that I because like
I said that, Yeah, I'm a

1053
01:01:44.519 --> 01:01:50.000
fan here you taught you know you
talked about not um wanting to live with

1054
01:01:50.119 --> 01:01:52.639
this too much. Hey, you
know this is I'm straight up not having

1055
01:01:52.639 --> 01:01:55.960
a good time. This is what
bothered me was It's one thing if you're

1056
01:01:58.559 --> 01:02:01.320
VA's out day. We love Dane. There's a reason why there wasn't a

1057
01:02:01.400 --> 01:02:05.559
hot market. And you know,
we I think beat like CFL fans tend

1058
01:02:05.599 --> 01:02:07.280
to like hype, like, oh, you know, like Dane, you

1059
01:02:07.320 --> 01:02:10.159
know, play decently last week.
Okay, like Dane's here and we have

1060
01:02:10.239 --> 01:02:13.599
bather we you know that you could
trade Dane and he could go there,

1061
01:02:13.719 --> 01:02:16.000
you know, Ottawa or like come
back. Dave Evans is still Dave Evans,

1062
01:02:16.039 --> 01:02:19.719
we know at this point. But
my problem with this was our defense

1063
01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:22.199
was this atrocious. I don't care
if Dane you know, throws two of

1064
01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:28.280
fifteen and get sacked and like this
is Ryan Phillips defense. And these guys

1065
01:02:28.320 --> 01:02:31.000
were just wide open running down the
field when BC when they when they won

1066
01:02:31.079 --> 01:02:36.039
the toss, opted to keep the
ball at the beginning and I said,

1067
01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:39.320
you better score right now. They
didn't. Winnipeg came out where I say,

1068
01:02:39.360 --> 01:02:43.199
write two completions through down the field
scoring I'm like, oh my god,

1069
01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:45.719
like we are in for a nightmare
here and the last thing, um,

1070
01:02:46.199 --> 01:02:49.840
I don't want to play this.
But Rick kind of addressed the room

1071
01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:51.880
and he said, what you said, like, we need to move on,

1072
01:02:52.199 --> 01:02:53.679
don't take to get anything away from
this. And I just I don't

1073
01:02:53.719 --> 01:02:57.920
like that mentality. I don't like
that mentality in baseball where it's, oh,

1074
01:02:58.039 --> 01:03:00.559
there's five hundred games and we law, like, I think you need

1075
01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:05.000
to take away. And I understand
that you Winnipeg was coming off to buy

1076
01:03:05.199 --> 01:03:07.519
and they were able to game prep
for a week and a half of this

1077
01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:10.760
BC had just played and there a
short week and traveling there. But because

1078
01:03:10.800 --> 01:03:15.199
something was wrong there. I don't
know if the defense is tired, but

1079
01:03:15.400 --> 01:03:19.039
I did not like that that kind
of this hallmark, you know, trademark

1080
01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:22.719
of the of the BC Lions here
as their defense and given up that much.

1081
01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:24.239
I just thought it was kind of
disappointing. Yeah, well, I

1082
01:03:24.280 --> 01:03:29.199
mean you're definitely not using the donut
Boys nickname this week. That's definitely.

1083
01:03:29.760 --> 01:03:32.360
Yeah. What happened to the donut
Boy? Yeah? Well, quite quite

1084
01:03:32.360 --> 01:03:36.639
the opposite. I mean they had
I mean, hey, the score on

1085
01:03:36.719 --> 01:03:38.519
the other end finished with the zero. There was just a five in front

1086
01:03:38.519 --> 01:03:42.480
of it this time, you know, yeah, maybe five donuts. I

1087
01:03:42.679 --> 01:03:46.840
don't know. We're jomping anyway.
We'll get out of here soon. Not

1088
01:03:47.119 --> 01:03:52.840
good BC. Like I said,
looking to remounts back with Calgary Evan had,

1089
01:03:52.119 --> 01:03:54.159
you know, exciting news we talked
at the time. Anything else you

1090
01:03:54.199 --> 01:03:57.440
want to share about that now before
we get out of here. Your new

1091
01:03:57.679 --> 01:04:00.199
director position, Yeah, I mean
alto about it briefly, you know,

1092
01:04:00.320 --> 01:04:03.480
just go over some things that maybe
I didn't initially say in my tweeter or

1093
01:04:03.480 --> 01:04:08.199
announcement, whatever you want to call
it. Um yep, I got position

1094
01:04:08.239 --> 01:04:12.599
assistant director of player Personnel for the
Vegas Nighthawks. You know, this type

1095
01:04:12.639 --> 01:04:16.039
of thing personnel related has been in
the works for a couple months now.

1096
01:04:16.159 --> 01:04:21.159
I've definitely you know, I'm trying
to trying to excuse me transition a bit,

1097
01:04:21.239 --> 01:04:25.400
I think out of media, not
that I'm that doesn't mean I'm giving

1098
01:04:25.480 --> 01:04:27.639
up anything right away, you know, don't don't get too excited. I

1099
01:04:27.760 --> 01:04:30.199
put right after I put out this
tweet, I said, look, before

1100
01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:32.840
anybody says anything, this doesn't stop
MAXFL coverage, doesn't stop anything else I'm

1101
01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:36.800
currently doing. It might shift some
things I'm gonna be putting more time into

1102
01:04:36.840 --> 01:04:40.599
different things now and this is going
to keep me extremely busy through the next

1103
01:04:40.679 --> 01:04:43.719
year. You know, we got
to start building the team pretty soon,

1104
01:04:43.760 --> 01:04:47.039
you know ifl season starts in March. But yes, so just to clarify

1105
01:04:47.159 --> 01:04:49.559
some things. You know, this
is a remote position and I'm working in

1106
01:04:49.639 --> 01:04:53.400
school. I'm gonna be out in
Vegas at some point, but I'm not

1107
01:04:53.519 --> 01:04:55.880
living out there while I'm building this
roster. You know, this is all

1108
01:04:55.960 --> 01:05:00.840
done you know, through databases and
just remote virtual work and things like that.

1109
01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:03.760
I'm not going to go into too
many details, but yeah, man,

1110
01:05:03.840 --> 01:05:06.159
I mean I'm really excited. You
know. Again, this was something

1111
01:05:06.199 --> 01:05:10.119
in the works for many months,
and you know, I think just I've

1112
01:05:10.119 --> 01:05:12.960
always had a great knowledge of players. That has been my one thing that

1113
01:05:13.039 --> 01:05:15.599
I think has separated me from certain
people in this space. And you know,

1114
01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:19.400
having the opportunity to get players together
and build a team. I mean,

1115
01:05:20.239 --> 01:05:23.320
I think this is what a lot
of people dream about. I mean,

1116
01:05:23.360 --> 01:05:25.760
you know, if you're a kid
and you're playing Mad and you're building

1117
01:05:25.800 --> 01:05:28.800
your franchise, you know on the
Madden Game. You know, I'm doing

1118
01:05:28.880 --> 01:05:30.880
this, but it's it's in real
life, and you know, I don't

1119
01:05:30.880 --> 01:05:31.920
really care what league it is.
I mean, this is just you know,

1120
01:05:32.360 --> 01:05:35.599
I was out in Vegas at the
IFL XFL combine and I won't go

1121
01:05:35.880 --> 01:05:40.280
too much into that either because I've
already done. I've already talked about that

1122
01:05:40.360 --> 01:05:43.639
a bit. But you know,
I think you know, I was out

1123
01:05:43.679 --> 01:05:45.960
there and you know, just kind
of finalized everything. You know, I

1124
01:05:46.360 --> 01:05:49.880
talked to a couple of teams about
this sort of thing, I believe it

1125
01:05:49.960 --> 01:05:53.360
or not, you know, I
was. I was talking to some CFL

1126
01:05:53.440 --> 01:05:56.199
people at one point. I won't
name names or teams, but you know,

1127
01:05:56.599 --> 01:05:59.599
I was talking to some guys in
the CFL and kind of maybe I

1128
01:05:59.679 --> 01:06:01.960
really I wanted to step down a
bit and you know, just kind of

1129
01:06:02.039 --> 01:06:04.920
have a you know, position with
a different league where I could you know,

1130
01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:08.840
maybe do more because the reality is
like, right now, I have

1131
01:06:08.920 --> 01:06:13.079
the title of assistant director of player
Personnel, you know, in the CFL.

1132
01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:15.440
I probably would have just been a
regular scout, which is fun,

1133
01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:18.480
you know, Um, but the
opportunity really wasn't there anyway. So um,

1134
01:06:18.760 --> 01:06:21.840
this is gonna be awesome. Man. I'm really looking forward to this.

1135
01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:25.920
And you know, again, there
might be some things you know that

1136
01:06:25.960 --> 01:06:30.079
I have to you know, keep
quiet about nowadays and whatever. But I

1137
01:06:30.119 --> 01:06:31.360
mean, yeah, I mean it's
time to get to work. Like I

1138
01:06:31.840 --> 01:06:35.360
was saying earlier, you know,
if I wasn't working hard before this,

1139
01:06:35.719 --> 01:06:39.880
um, I'm definitely gonna be working
hard now. So this next year,

1140
01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:42.599
while it's gonna be fun, you
know, I'm putting my head down and

1141
01:06:42.719 --> 01:06:46.280
we're really you know, we're really
doing a proper evaluation of a lot of

1142
01:06:46.360 --> 01:06:49.679
things. I guess, well,
I guess at the top, it's exciting,

1143
01:06:49.719 --> 01:06:53.719
and I think it's cool that you
know, people and this is all

1144
01:06:53.760 --> 01:06:56.880
these leagues cfl X, l USL, it's it's you know, guys and

1145
01:06:56.960 --> 01:07:00.199
girls covering this. They're passionate about
it. That's why we choose do it.

1146
01:07:00.199 --> 01:07:02.400
And it's cool to see you people
that want to take a step into

1147
01:07:02.480 --> 01:07:05.239
this and it's always kind of been
your interest to be able to transition.

1148
01:07:05.599 --> 01:07:10.159
So I think that's exciting. Obviously
we're all super excited for that than anything

1149
01:07:10.239 --> 01:07:13.199
you need to do. But that's
great. Um, Like I said,

1150
01:07:13.199 --> 01:07:15.599
you couldn't say enough how proud and
everyone is and just kind of seeing you

1151
01:07:15.679 --> 01:07:18.679
know what, it's been two three
years of this you know, journey and

1152
01:07:18.760 --> 01:07:21.079
kind of all of us on together
on our group, and so we're very

1153
01:07:21.599 --> 01:07:26.199
excited for that. I will get
out because I'm sure Evans got stuff to

1154
01:07:26.199 --> 01:07:29.880
do as well. Go Scout players. Big week here. I think we

1155
01:07:30.000 --> 01:07:32.440
have a you know, Elks to
the slaughter hopefully, I don't. I

1156
01:07:32.519 --> 01:07:36.760
don't see that that would be the
story if the Elves. If the Elks

1157
01:07:36.840 --> 01:07:41.320
reverse that, what would it be
twenty two games losing streak on that.

1158
01:07:42.039 --> 01:07:45.880
But it's exciting. It's an exciting
week. We'll see anything else of it.

1159
01:07:45.960 --> 01:07:46.960
Before we got I gotta figure out
what we're doing. I don't think

1160
01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:51.840
the Elks Winnipeg deserves the pregame show
this week, like the Yeah, I

1161
01:07:51.920 --> 01:07:56.840
mean yeah, I don't know what. Yeah. I'm definitely looking forward to

1162
01:07:56.880 --> 01:08:00.920
the Calgary BC game because I'll be
there, um and I don't know,

1163
01:08:00.119 --> 01:08:02.719
I don't know if it's the most
intriguing matchup of the week. I'm definitely

1164
01:08:02.760 --> 01:08:05.800
interested to see how BC bounces back. I think is the key thing over

1165
01:08:05.880 --> 01:08:10.320
everything, really the game I'm looking
at. I know you had mentioned Ottawa

1166
01:08:10.360 --> 01:08:13.960
Toronto, but honestly, I think
Saskatchewan Montreal is kind of one of these

1167
01:08:14.039 --> 01:08:16.439
underrated ones that might slip under the
radar um, you know, just given

1168
01:08:16.920 --> 01:08:20.479
you know, Saskatchewan kind of finally
pulled through this week, and we'll see.

1169
01:08:20.520 --> 01:08:24.439
I feel like either this is gonna
be a really close game or one

1170
01:08:24.439 --> 01:08:26.920
of these teams is going to pull
away early. I think that's kind of

1171
01:08:27.000 --> 01:08:29.600
my take on that, but definitely
one I'll be having my eye on,

1172
01:08:29.880 --> 01:08:33.000
you know. Out of that slate. Pat has a funny comment here.

1173
01:08:33.279 --> 01:08:36.479
Yeah, because we have Trey Forward
now getting you know, getting to play.

1174
01:08:36.800 --> 01:08:40.760
I think Morley Scott reported he's going
to be starting trade Forward, going

1175
01:08:40.840 --> 01:08:45.479
to go four TVSA we' got masterclass
taking the victory away for the Yeah,

1176
01:08:45.640 --> 01:08:49.800
this is the tray Forward season here
hashtag you know, free tray Forward justin

1177
01:08:49.880 --> 01:08:54.079
Duncan all of that. I really
appreciate it. Evan, that should be

1178
01:08:54.119 --> 01:08:56.479
a good week. I gues said, like and subscribe. We'll figure out

1179
01:08:56.520 --> 01:08:59.479
what we're doing. I got some
emails to send here, but that would

1180
01:08:59.479 --> 01:09:02.319
be it for me and mister director
here. We'll check check you that time.

1181
01:09:02.479 --> 01:09:06.079
And I hope Jason feels better than
bouncer prayers Jason and with his yeah,

1182
01:09:06.479 --> 01:09:10.079
you know, under the weather,
so I'm sure he will bounce back.

1183
01:09:10.159 --> 01:09:14.399
But you know, maybe just a
poor tiecast performance. So anyway,

1184
01:09:14.479 --> 01:09:15.800
I will see you guys next time. Th