WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:05.599 K f I A M sixty you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand 2 00:00:05.839 --> 00:00:13.320 on the iHeartRadio app debate and wo he was concerned. This friend of mine 3 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:17.679 is a Democratic consultant. Let's just say consultant. He's been an economist this 4 00:00:17.719 --> 00:00:24.920 whole life. And uh, he is sending me all sorts of feedback about 5 00:00:24.920 --> 00:00:29.320 this debate. What happens, what's what the future is going to be? 6 00:00:31.239 --> 00:00:33.759 Uh, and he is concerned. He says, listen, this is a 7 00:00:33.960 --> 00:00:38.000 This has become a circular firing squad within the Democratic parties. They're all pointing, 8 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:40.799 and they're saying, oh my gosh, we're toast. We got to 9 00:00:40.799 --> 00:00:43.399 get Joe Biden out of there. This is this is so bad. That 10 00:00:43.479 --> 00:00:48.200 debate performance was the exact opposite of everything that we needed. This is a 11 00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:53.640 this is a bad story. Another friend of mine, again on the left 12 00:00:53.640 --> 00:00:56.679 side of the aisle, says, talking to a psychiatrist at dinner tonight. 13 00:00:56.759 --> 00:01:02.679 Now save your jokes, says pretty grim. It's all over unless there's a 14 00:01:02.759 --> 00:01:10.640 new nominee. They're not alone. The New York Times editorial board headline, 15 00:01:11.439 --> 00:01:17.640 to serve his country, President Biden should leave the race, says Donald Trump 16 00:01:17.640 --> 00:01:21.760 has proved himself to be a significant jeopardy to the democracy and a ratic and 17 00:01:21.760 --> 00:01:25.359 self interested figure worthy of the public unworthy, excuse me of the public trust. 18 00:01:26.079 --> 00:01:27.879 They go on to say, Biden said that he's the candidate with the 19 00:01:27.879 --> 00:01:30.799 best chance of taking on this threat of tyranny and defeating it. His argument 20 00:01:30.840 --> 00:01:34.760 rests largely on the fact that he beat Trump last time. That is no 21 00:01:34.840 --> 00:01:38.959 longer a sufficient rationale for why mister Biden should be the Democratic nominee of this 22 00:01:38.040 --> 00:01:42.719 year. As of the debate, the President needed to convince American people he 23 00:01:42.879 --> 00:01:46.920 was equal to the formidable demands of the office that he is seeking to hold 24 00:01:46.920 --> 00:01:49.640 for another term. Voters cannot be expected to ignore what was instead plain to 25 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:53.519 see. Mister Biden is not the man he was four years ago. That 26 00:01:53.760 --> 00:02:05.840 from the Gray Lady from the Daily Beast headline opinion, Jill Biden must step 27 00:02:05.920 --> 00:02:09.400 up now to help oust her husband. They make the case that he's not 28 00:02:09.439 --> 00:02:16.319 going anywhere unless Jill Biden says she's on board. And yet Jill Biden was 29 00:02:16.319 --> 00:02:21.080 asked specifically about this Robin you want to play cut two there. This is 30 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:23.960 what Jill Biden had to say, Joe, you did such a great job. 31 00:02:24.039 --> 00:02:31.759 You answered every question. You know all that. Let me ask the 32 00:02:31.879 --> 00:02:43.360 crowd, what did Trump do? Yes? Yes, lie, yes. 33 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:47.280 I always love it when there's a call and response from the crowd and they 34 00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:51.560 most of them get it right, but it just ends up coming out like 35 00:02:51.599 --> 00:02:57.120 what did he do? And they're like he roh, And she's like, 36 00:02:57.319 --> 00:03:00.719 that's right, lie, very good. That's a teacher right there. Good 37 00:03:00.759 --> 00:03:08.439 job, class, good job. What about Biden? A lot of people 38 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:12.759 saying he should step aside, but what does he say? If you saw 39 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:15.719 his rally this morning, it was a different guy than what we saw last 40 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:20.479 night. So, Biden, how did you do? Cut three? Biden? 41 00:03:20.520 --> 00:03:23.360 How to go? I don't walk as easy as I used to. 42 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:28.120 I don't speak as smooth as I used to debate as well as I used 43 00:03:28.159 --> 00:03:32.000 to. But I know what I do know. I know how to tell 44 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:43.360 the truth. I know, I know, I know right from Rome, 45 00:03:46.759 --> 00:03:51.080 and I know how to do this job. I know how to get things 46 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:55.919 done. I know, like the minutes of Americas know when you get knocked 47 00:03:55.919 --> 00:04:09.520 down, you get back up. I know what it took to take our 48 00:04:09.560 --> 00:04:14.000 economy in the depths of pandemic is where it is today, the strongest economy 49 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:17.560 in the world. I know it'll take to bring this economy to everybody. 50 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:21.959 I don't take to rally the world to stand up against Putin and defend free, 51 00:04:23.000 --> 00:04:29.560 to not yield to him, and I know take to keep the world 52 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:32.680 safe and free for the years ahead. Folks, I give you my words, 53 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:35.439 a Biden. I would not be running again if I didn't believe with 54 00:04:35.480 --> 00:04:40.160 all my heart and soul I can do this job. Because quite factory, 55 00:04:41.560 --> 00:04:45.439 all right. So there you go. Even when you're listening to that, 56 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:49.199 there are moments that he starts a sentence and isn't exactly sure, but he 57 00:04:49.240 --> 00:04:53.519 comes up with the words. We're coming up with the words last night. 58 00:04:54.560 --> 00:05:00.439 The energy today was different, the grasp of the words were different. And 59 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:03.319 listen, I talk for a living. I gotta tell you I got good 60 00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:08.079 days and bad days. It's true. There's days that for some reason. 61 00:05:08.160 --> 00:05:10.560 In fact, I've gotten off the air before my wife says how's the show? 62 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:14.720 And my wife gets angry with me because I'm very hard on myself. 63 00:05:14.759 --> 00:05:16.399 So she's like, how's the show on? I was terrible, and she 64 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:18.759 said, don't say that. I like when you say that, Yeah, 65 00:05:18.759 --> 00:05:23.759 it was terrible, and so she's always surprised when I feel like I have 66 00:05:23.800 --> 00:05:26.040 a good show. That was the show, and she expects me to go. 67 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:30.199 Yeah. So sometimes I'll feel like I had a really good shoes, 68 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:31.519 how's the show, and I feel really good of it. I feel really 69 00:05:31.560 --> 00:05:36.160 good about that. Oftentimes, the shows I feel good about the shows where 70 00:05:36.839 --> 00:05:41.360 I'm able to find the words, the vocabulary I'm seeking comes to me. 71 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:45.879 The days where I feel like I'm stumbling in the blocks are the days that 72 00:05:45.959 --> 00:05:49.600 I feel that was not good at all. That or I have technical difficulties, 73 00:05:49.639 --> 00:05:53.600 and Mark's been around for most of those. In fact, I think 74 00:05:53.879 --> 00:05:58.000 Mark might be the crap magnet when it comes to my technical difficulties. Yeah, 75 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:00.439 it turns out I'm the one that was born over the Indian burial mound 76 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:03.240 and not the stay s built on it. Yeah you figured that out, 77 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:09.879 Yep, that was it. In fact, Mark said at six twenty five, 78 00:06:10.040 --> 00:06:14.399 I remember show started at seven. He said we'll be having tech tech 79 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:17.360 issues tonight. And then and then all of a sudden, I did so. 80 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:21.360 Thanks a lot of Although pretty good generally, right, I mean pretty 81 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:24.920 good tonight. I feel pretty good about this, just a little echo so 82 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:28.199 far, and what's not fun about that? Come on, listen, it's 83 00:06:28.199 --> 00:06:30.879 a voice of God stuff. Yeah right, I told you good, So 84 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:34.279 listen. Here's the deal on this. If we had seen today's Biden yesterday, 85 00:06:34.279 --> 00:06:36.600 it'd be a different story. And even in the clip you just heard, 86 00:06:36.800 --> 00:06:40.680 you also heard him kind of clear his throat and call right. He 87 00:06:40.759 --> 00:06:43.399 said he had a cold. They talked about that last night. He tested 88 00:06:43.399 --> 00:06:47.240 for COVID. No COVID, that's great, But for whatever reason last night, 89 00:06:48.079 --> 00:06:54.079 his voice was shaky, it was raspy. It wasn't there the whole 90 00:06:54.120 --> 00:06:56.120 time. When he first came out, it was like he was trying to 91 00:06:56.160 --> 00:07:00.879 clear his throat but he couldn't. And it just I felt for the man. 92 00:07:00.920 --> 00:07:03.399 I felt like it was not there. This idea of replacing him, 93 00:07:03.439 --> 00:07:09.519 though. You know one person who's actually worried about replacing him, Nicky Haley. 94 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:15.120 Nicky Haley says, look out, mark my words, Biden will not 95 00:07:15.160 --> 00:07:18.160 be the Democratic nominee. Republicans, get your guard up. She says, 96 00:07:19.040 --> 00:07:21.319 I don't know if he's going to be the nominee or not, but I 97 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:27.480 can tell you this. David Axelrod says replacing Biden would be a very bad 98 00:07:27.519 --> 00:07:31.759 idea. Cut for go ahead. I just want to say one thing, 99 00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:38.920 yeah, especially to you two guys. If for whatever reason, there's a 100 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:42.600 change at the top of the ticket, you guys are in trouble with Donald 101 00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:46.879 Trump because the guy who was up there tonight is not a guy who's going 102 00:07:46.959 --> 00:07:54.160 to inspire people. Is He did not show in any way that he has 103 00:07:54.360 --> 00:07:59.240 changed from the guy who people don't have a very positive opinion for a lot 104 00:07:59.240 --> 00:08:03.560 of good reasons. So it sounds like Axelrod is calling for Biden to be 105 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:09.279 replaced, and he's warning the Republicans. I just don't know that that's such 106 00:08:09.279 --> 00:08:11.759 a great idea, because what it does is it starts to show a party 107 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:15.720 in disarray. If you guys didn't think Biden was with it, why have 108 00:08:15.800 --> 00:08:20.360 you been telling us all along that he was right, All of a sudden, 109 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:24.160 you erode trust with the American people, and that is in jeopardy right 110 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:26.560 now. If we see more of what we saw from Biden today at the 111 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:30.519 rally, he's going to be fine. We'll chalk it up as a one 112 00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:33.080 off, had a bad night, whatever it was. But if we see 113 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:37.080 more stumbles along the way, I think this is not only going to hurt 114 00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:43.399 the presidential race, but it will crush the engagement and motivation of the base, 115 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:48.720 and that could mean a lower turnout of the polls for down ballot races 116 00:08:48.799 --> 00:08:52.120 and propositions. There's a lot of stake this time around, a lot, 117 00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:58.000 so making the right movement now is imperative. And if that means you've got 118 00:08:58.039 --> 00:09:01.879 to give the man be twelve shots and hop him up on five hour energy, 119 00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:07.080 get to Costco and pick up a case of it, get him going. 120 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:13.360 All right. As much as we've been talking about the presidential debate that 121 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:18.000 CNN had and it came in second in their own ratings, there were things 122 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:20.799 going on this week that are actually a much bigger deal and we'll have a 123 00:09:20.840 --> 00:09:24.840 much longer lasting impact, and yet they don't get even half the coverage. 124 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:31.919 That's next you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six 125 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:37.600 forty. In the weekend, they are saying the busiest travel weekend so far 126 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:41.879 this year because we've got the fourth of July and in the middle of the 127 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:45.159 week. That means this weekend and next weekend, and many people are taking 128 00:09:46.039 --> 00:09:50.360 the next week off. Help me among them, I am really looking forward 129 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:54.759 to Little R and R. In fact, I was sending Mark pictures. 130 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:58.759 I'm going back to my hometown, and I call it the Malibu the Midwest. 131 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:03.759 It's just beautiful in the summertime, winter time, it's cool. It's 132 00:10:03.799 --> 00:10:07.919 northern Michigan and it is an absolute delight. However, getting there puts you 133 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:11.159 right through the middle of some real redneck maga country. Now I'm not saying 134 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:15.639 listen, we're Trump supporters. I'm talking like the crazies. And I sent 135 00:10:15.720 --> 00:10:20.600 Mark pictures and it was like the FJBS, the upside down flags, the 136 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:24.279 it was pretty insane. Mark, I wasn't look pretty festive. Actually, 137 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:31.600 I wasn't exaggerating when I said there are some there are some people out there 138 00:10:31.639 --> 00:10:37.519 that are a little different, and you just you don't see that anywhere else. 139 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:41.639 I mean, it's it's like wwe hits politics. It's wild. But 140 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:43.360 once you get through that, man, I love it. And I'm not 141 00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:48.320 even a post having a nice political conversation. But these are not the kind 142 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:50.440 of people that like to converse. They like to tell you how it's done. 143 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:56.440 I wish I could go with you, oh man, I would love 144 00:10:56.480 --> 00:10:58.200 to take you there. Are you kidding me. I would take you. 145 00:10:58.279 --> 00:11:01.000 I would take you to all the places we like to show off and and 146 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:03.360 then I take it to hidden places, and I would access your inner redneck. 147 00:11:03.480 --> 00:11:05.799 I knew you grow and you grew up in kind of a rural area 148 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:09.200 too, right, I wouldn't say rural. I grew up in Spokane, 149 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:13.200 Washington, which is on the eastern side of Washington State, the sophisticated side. 150 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:16.320 The western side is where Seattle is, and that's where I worked for 151 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:20.799 quite a number of years before I came here. Okay, Spokane's nice though, 152 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:22.279 but yeah, I guess if you were if you grew up in town, 153 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:24.600 then yeah, you're not rural. So I grew up in a rural 154 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:31.720 area. And so just to just to let you know, my wife is 155 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:35.519 going to pick me up at the airport. She's there right now, and 156 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:39.759 my father is going to watch our dog for the night at their place. 157 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:41.879 My parents are a little bit older, and so they said they would dog 158 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:46.399 sit for us. My father has asked, this tells you where we are. 159 00:11:46.759 --> 00:11:50.799 My father has asked if he can pop by and drop off his new 160 00:11:50.840 --> 00:11:54.200 four wheel drive truck and take my old four wheel drive truck with the dog 161 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:58.879 in it so he doesn't get his nice new pickup dirty. And by new, 162 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:03.200 it's a twenty seventeen, So just heads up, we're just swapping out 163 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:09.759 four by force. I think that's heartwarming. Listen. I love my parents, 164 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:11.519 I love going home, And if he wants to drive my beat up 165 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:15.360 old Ford, he's happy. I'm happy to let him do it. I'm 166 00:12:15.360 --> 00:12:20.600 excited to let him do it. I get a little bit giddy this time 167 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:24.639 of year because whether I agree or disagree, I love Supreme Court opinion week. 168 00:12:26.200 --> 00:12:28.360 I love it when the opinions come out, you realize how much of 169 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:33.000 an impact this actually has on our lives. Look, whatever a president does 170 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:35.759 for four years, what's good stays, what's bad. The next president can 171 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:39.679 try to undo, or the next Congress or whatever else it is. It's 172 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:43.039 part of the deliberation process over a long period of time. And I know 173 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:46.000 some of you are going to disagree with, well, wow, yeah but 174 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:50.360 FDR screwed everything up, or yeah but Reagan ruined everything with trickle down economics, 175 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:54.120 whatever your opinion is, whatever, I love the Supreme Court decisions. 176 00:12:54.120 --> 00:13:01.039 Although this Court is far more likely to overturn previous decisions than courts we've seen 177 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:05.600 in the past. They don't have the same deference to precedent that we've seen 178 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:09.360 in the past. Roe v. Wade. And then another one as well 179 00:13:09.080 --> 00:13:15.559 that came down called they basically backed off on the Chevron decision, which gives 180 00:13:15.600 --> 00:13:20.159 places federal agencies like the EPA or whomever. That's just one agency, and 181 00:13:20.159 --> 00:13:24.279 that's the one that came up in question. They give them the authority to 182 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:28.799 make rules if there aren't laws in place, and basically the court said, 183 00:13:30.080 --> 00:13:33.200 no, I don't really get to do that. And if anybody doesn't like 184 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:37.840 your rules and they should have a jury trial. It's a little strange and 185 00:13:37.879 --> 00:13:43.279 it could have some implications, but it sounds so in the weeds, right, 186 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:50.000 like legally boring. If we only had forty eight million people watch the 187 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:56.639 debate, which is the political event, I should say the election is the 188 00:13:56.679 --> 00:14:01.240 political event. Every four years. It's it's like the Olympics. I can't 189 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:05.879 wait for the next big presidential election. It is the major event in politics. 190 00:14:05.480 --> 00:14:11.039 The debate is as close as you can get to a scrimmage or preseason 191 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:13.759 or if you want to call it a wild card playoff game, fine, 192 00:14:13.799 --> 00:14:20.600 whatever. Only forty eight million people were interested. So if we have another 193 00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:24.360 how many people voted last year in one hundred and sixty five, one hundred 194 00:14:24.360 --> 00:14:28.639 and seventy million people voted in twenty twenty, one hundred and eighty whatever, 195 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:31.159 it was not even a third of the number of people who are going to 196 00:14:31.240 --> 00:14:35.480 vote. Watch that debate. How many of them? How many people do 197 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:39.679 you think are actually paying attention to what the Supreme Court is saying? If 198 00:14:39.720 --> 00:14:43.039 you don't even get a third of the people who who are going to watch 199 00:14:43.080 --> 00:14:48.559 the Super Bowl to pay attention to the teams before the big game? Using 200 00:14:48.559 --> 00:14:54.919 my analogy, how many are watching what's going on with the referees behind the 201 00:14:54.960 --> 00:15:00.879 scenes, like nobody. But this is really the importance stuff. This is 202 00:15:00.919 --> 00:15:03.480 the stuff that is going to affect you and I a whole lot more directly, 203 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:07.399 Robin, let's go to a cut five here. It's a bit of 204 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:09.080 a rundown of what the Supreme Court has come up with this time. The 205 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:13.840 Supreme Court has handed down a number of decisions today, significant ones at that 206 00:15:13.000 --> 00:15:18.399 the High Court rule to allow Idaho hospitals to provide emergency abortions, overturning a 207 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:22.840 total ban on the procedure. The opinion is similar to a draft that was 208 00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:28.120 leaked yesterday. The Court also blocked a six billion dollar settlement with oxyconto maker 209 00:15:28.279 --> 00:15:33.879 Purdue Pharma that would have shielded the company's owners from civil lawsuits. The Securities 210 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:39.000 and Exchange Commission has been stripped of a major enforcement tool. The justices ruled 211 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:43.759 that people accused of fraud by the SEC have a right to a jury trial 212 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:48.960 in federal court. They say in house SEC proceedings that were previously used in 213 00:15:48.039 --> 00:15:54.639 civil fraud complaints violate the Constitution. And the Supreme Court is also putting the 214 00:15:54.720 --> 00:16:00.360 Environmental Protection Agency's air pollution fighting plan on hold. The justices voted life to 215 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:04.279 four to reject arguments by the Biden administration that the plan was saving lives. 216 00:16:04.519 --> 00:16:10.200 This rule is intended to restrict smoke stack emissions from power plants and other industrial 217 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:12.679 sources. All right, So you get the point. There's a lot of 218 00:16:12.720 --> 00:16:17.399 these decisions, Like, you may see more smoke from the smoke stacks. 219 00:16:18.039 --> 00:16:22.120 You may see more federal courts getting bogged down with jury trials every time somebody 220 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:25.519 doesn't like something the SEC does. And it may be harder for the SEC 221 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:29.320 to enforce some of these anti fraud measures. If every time they do, 222 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:33.120 they're gonna have to expend resources to try to run things through the courts. 223 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:44.000 But for the Supreme Court, they're protecting rights of individuals from I guess if 224 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:48.759 you want to argue a tyrannical government, listen, government ain't cheap. It 225 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:53.399 just isn't. Sometimes people use that fact in order to try to enrich themselves. 226 00:16:55.919 --> 00:16:59.320 We still haven't heard about some of these other rulings, and the Supreme 227 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:03.759 Court says there are still more decisions to come down. We thought we were 228 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:07.119 gonna get them all this week. Sounds like we're gonna get some next week 229 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:11.839 now as well, which is exciting to geeks like me, and as I 230 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:18.680 pointed out before, not enough other people. Tragic. All right, it's 231 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:22.720 time to go back to school, but there are going to be some changes, 232 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:27.680 like the teachers hate being there. I'll tell you why next. You're 233 00:17:27.720 --> 00:17:33.160 listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM sixty. Oh. 234 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:37.119 Is there any nightmare worse than when you're back in school? You ever have 235 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:41.519 that dream back in school? Maybe you're you didn't get your test done, 236 00:17:41.559 --> 00:17:44.000 maybe you missing an exam, maybe you showed up to the let your hold 237 00:17:44.079 --> 00:17:47.759 naked. There's nothing worse than school dreams. Really, I swear to you. 238 00:17:48.039 --> 00:17:49.039 When was the last time you ever had a good school dream? Oh? 239 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:53.759 I wish I were back in school. Nobody wants them. Teachers are 240 00:17:53.880 --> 00:17:59.000 as excited as students to be out for the summer, judging by the results 241 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:02.720 of a state of the Amya Teacher Survey which was released earlier this month. 242 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:10.759 According to RAND, that is the nonpartisan, nonprofit who if I recall correctly, 243 00:18:10.920 --> 00:18:14.799 Mark correct me if I'm wrong. Wasn't Rand the company that had the 244 00:18:14.799 --> 00:18:18.039 Pentagon papers written they were stolen? You got me on that one. I 245 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:22.160 don't know the answer. I hope I'm not wrong on that, because then 246 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:25.039 I'm gonna feel like a real tool. Probably need to go back to school 247 00:18:25.039 --> 00:18:27.240 if that's the case. So anyway, RAND found that teachers feel like all 248 00:18:27.319 --> 00:18:33.799 three points of pain are about twice the rate of compatible working adults, age 249 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:40.200 bachelor's degree and at least a thirty five hour workweek. Roughly three times as 250 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:44.759 many teachers report a difficulty coping with the work related stress. So teachers who 251 00:18:44.839 --> 00:18:48.400 are in that age range are working at least thirty five hours a week and 252 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:52.400 have a bachelor's degree, they have more stress than other people in that age 253 00:18:52.480 --> 00:18:59.400 range working a full time job with a bachelor's degree, So big a teacher 254 00:18:59.480 --> 00:19:04.720 is well, it ain't easy. Teachers attribute the majority of their stress to 255 00:19:04.799 --> 00:19:10.240 managing student behavior, administrative work outside of teaching, and low salaries. Base 256 00:19:10.279 --> 00:19:15.319 pay about seventy grand compared with eighty eight thousand dollars for similar working counterparts, 257 00:19:15.960 --> 00:19:18.640 which prompts a thirty six percent of teachers to consider their base pay adequate as 258 00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:23.880 compared to fifty one percent of other working adults. In other words, if 259 00:19:23.920 --> 00:19:29.079 you are working age, have a bachelor's degree and a full time job, 260 00:19:29.839 --> 00:19:33.480 there's a fifty to fifty chance you feel like you're being paid okey. For 261 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:38.039 teachers, there's a two what a three chance you feel like you are not 262 00:19:38.200 --> 00:19:44.839 being compensated correctly. Very frustrating considering that the many hours are required, with 263 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:49.240 teachers reporting working nine hours a week more than similar working adults for an average 264 00:19:49.240 --> 00:19:56.839 of fifty three hours per work week. So for everyone that says you have 265 00:19:56.920 --> 00:19:59.720 the good sommers off, I want you to think about this. Throughout the 266 00:19:59.799 --> 00:20:04.599 ENTI higher school year. They're putting in thirteen hours of work per week, 267 00:20:06.440 --> 00:20:10.519 which is an average of nine more than most other people. And remember we're 268 00:20:10.519 --> 00:20:12.599 supposed to be working forty hours a week. And I know a lot of 269 00:20:12.599 --> 00:20:15.720 people, Well, they get to school at seven, they leave at three. 270 00:20:17.119 --> 00:20:18.359 That's eight hours, but they're get to lunch in there. They're not 271 00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:22.279 working that much now. They are because they stick around afterward, or they 272 00:20:22.279 --> 00:20:26.720 get there early, or they're correcting things on the weekend. The fourth annual 273 00:20:26.799 --> 00:20:32.599 Rand State of the Teacher Survey nationally. It's a nationally representative annual survey of 274 00:20:32.839 --> 00:20:37.759 K through twelve public school teachers across the US. It's supported by the American 275 00:20:37.759 --> 00:20:42.279 Federation of Teachers in the National Education Association, and they presented their findings in 276 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:48.960 a companion survey of other working adults. So being a teacher ain't easy. 277 00:20:49.480 --> 00:20:55.880 I don't know of anybody that gets into teaching because they want to get rich. 278 00:20:57.519 --> 00:21:03.559 I think that when you're a teach cure you should be paid a median 279 00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:07.000 income. I know it sounds silly, and you go, well, it's 280 00:21:07.039 --> 00:21:11.440 pretty close. Yeah, but you gotta have a bouncer's degree. I mean, 281 00:21:11.480 --> 00:21:15.480 if you've got a four year education, shouldn't you be above the median. 282 00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:18.440 I'm not saying you need to pay teachers a quarter million dollars, but 283 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:25.839 shouldn't you be above the median? I just I've always been a proponent of 284 00:21:25.880 --> 00:21:27.079 teachers, and there's going to come. I'm sure there's a tipping point. 285 00:21:27.079 --> 00:21:30.400 I mean, if all of a sudden, all teachers start making one hundred 286 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:33.039 and fifty grand, then I'm going to say, wait a minute, why 287 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:36.799 were paying teachers so much? But I always feel like teachers have a really 288 00:21:36.799 --> 00:21:41.039 tough job, and I want to be very supportive of the teachers. I 289 00:21:41.079 --> 00:21:47.039 really want to be supportive of these teachers because I think things are about to 290 00:21:47.079 --> 00:21:52.559 get ugly in Oklahoma. Did you see what they did? This is got 291 00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:59.559 to be unconstitutional. Although the Supreme Court has ruled that more religion in school 292 00:21:59.599 --> 00:22:03.119 is okay, and we know that they're going to be challenged with the Oklahoma 293 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:07.240 law. The Oklahoma laws that all classrooms have to display the Ten Commandments. 294 00:22:07.240 --> 00:22:11.000 They didn't specify if that was the Catholic Ten Commandments of the Protestant Ten Commandments. 295 00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:15.480 They have to have the Ten Commandments. Now, Oklahoma state Superintendent is 296 00:22:15.559 --> 00:22:22.920 requiring public schools to teach the Bible, saying it is a necessary historical document. 297 00:22:23.720 --> 00:22:27.480 Mandate comes as part of a conservative movement to infuse Christian values in public 298 00:22:27.559 --> 00:22:32.440 schools, and of course it happens in Oklahoma. The state superintendent directed all 299 00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:36.160 public schools to teach the Bible, including the Ten Commandments, in an extraordinary 300 00:22:36.160 --> 00:22:40.519 move that blurs the lines between religious instruction and public education. I want you 301 00:22:40.559 --> 00:22:45.680 to keep something else in mind. In Oklahoma, there's a very large indigenous 302 00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:49.799 population, which means that you aren't going to be going into schools that are 303 00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:59.880 predominantly populated by Indigenous students and teaching them about the historical documents of the religion 304 00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:03.720 of the people that many of view as the colonizers that made life crappy. 305 00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:07.839 That means you're gonna have a lot of parents that are not going to be 306 00:23:07.880 --> 00:23:11.960 pleased. Not only are you gonna have parents that are gonna be in some 307 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:15.200 of the larger cities, and by larger cities, I mean the two Tulsa 308 00:23:15.240 --> 00:23:22.319 and Oklahoma City. But suppose you've got parents of Jewish kids and they're like, 309 00:23:22.519 --> 00:23:26.119 why do you have to teach my kids the New Testament? And they're 310 00:23:26.119 --> 00:23:30.279 gonna go it's a historical document, And you're gonna have atheist parents that are 311 00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:36.119 going, why are you Remember Oklahoma is the state that had the Monument of 312 00:23:36.160 --> 00:23:38.240 the Constant the Ten Commandments outside their state house, and that became a big 313 00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:41.960 issue. You're gonna have parents going, why are you teaching my kids the 314 00:23:42.039 --> 00:23:45.279 Bible? I don't want to teach I don't I don't want them learning this 315 00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:49.720 religion. I'm okay with them learning about it in a religious class that teaches 316 00:23:49.759 --> 00:23:56.759 about Christianity, Islam, Judaism, whatever it is. That's fine, that's 317 00:23:56.799 --> 00:24:00.039 informative. But if you are teaching the Bible that's Sundays, we have a 318 00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:06.279 place for that. You will have this challenged in the courts. The questioning 319 00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:10.680 is what will the Supreme Court say? Now, A lot of this comes 320 00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:12.720 on the heels of the case out of the state of Washington, where there 321 00:24:12.759 --> 00:24:17.960 was the coach that was praying with the players and some players felt like they 322 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:22.960 had to pray with the coach if they wanted playing time. The Supreme Court 323 00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:23.920 said, yeah, they have an option, they don't have to do it. 324 00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:29.359 Louisiana is taking that interpretation. They're saying, well, we put up 325 00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:32.759 the Ten Commandments, but they don't have to look at them. Is Oklahoma 326 00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:34.559 going to say, yeah, we have, we mandate that the Bible be 327 00:24:34.599 --> 00:24:38.680 taught, but you don't have to take the class. I'm not so sure, 328 00:24:38.880 --> 00:24:45.759 especially when the idea is that America's democracy needs to be grounded in Christian 329 00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:52.119 values, which is what the people of Oklahoma are saying. Not so sure 330 00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:55.920 this one's gonna fly. I think even a very conservative Supreme Court may say, 331 00:24:56.720 --> 00:24:59.880 uh, that feels an awful lot like somebody's tax dollars are going to 332 00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:03.240 pay to teach a particular religion. That feels a lot like an endorsement, 333 00:25:03.799 --> 00:25:11.720 which I believe First Amendment says no. All right, teachers not getting paid 334 00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:17.440 enough. Right, But if you're going to work, you might think I've 335 00:25:17.440 --> 00:25:22.920 got my bachelor's degree. I'm ready to go. Hold that thought for just 336 00:25:22.920 --> 00:25:25.680 a moment, or as Lee Corso used to say, not so fast, 337 00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:30.240 my friend. Why your degree isn't a isn't worth as much as this is 338 00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:37.160 next you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. 339 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:37.759 All Right, you went to college and you think, oh, this 340 00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:40.720 is great. I can go to college. I'm gonna have I'm gonna make 341 00:25:40.759 --> 00:25:42.599 more money than anybody else ever, And this is gonna be my life is 342 00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:48.039 set well come to find out, you know what, Maybe not so much, 343 00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:56.960 according to Society sociology professor at Dukes College, helps, but widespread employment 344 00:25:57.000 --> 00:26:03.880 practices that keeps salary information hidden played a larger role for the students interviewed into 345 00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:10.880 the study. Respective employers in a job market frequently high key information like salary 346 00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:15.279 range and a detailed job description, which would help graduating students decide which jobs 347 00:26:15.319 --> 00:26:19.680 to apply for. That information is not often provided until a job offer is 348 00:26:19.759 --> 00:26:25.119 made. In other words, do you want the job, you're qualified for 349 00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:27.680 it, Let's go through the interview process. You've come in, We've done 350 00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:30.640 the phone and interview, we've brought you into the house in house, and 351 00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:34.640 now we think you might be a good fit. Do you want the job? 352 00:26:34.680 --> 00:26:37.359 And you go, well, I mean what does it pay? And 353 00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:44.759 they go, oh, it'll pay somewhere in this range. Listen, if 354 00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:47.000 I knew you were going to lowball me to start with, I would have 355 00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:51.200 saved us both. Sometimes oftentimes what ends up happening, though, is that 356 00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:53.640 we end up with a bit of an emotional connection to the place where we're 357 00:26:53.640 --> 00:26:56.359 interviewing, and we go, man, I hope we get this job. 358 00:26:56.400 --> 00:26:59.160 I hope we get the job. I hope we get the job. This 359 00:26:59.240 --> 00:27:02.000 job was with a com but I've always wanted to work for this job look 360 00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:03.920 great in my resume, whatever it might be. And then you end up 361 00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:07.759 taking a lot less than you're worth, even if you're fresh out of college. 362 00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:12.000 You end up taking less than you're worth. And of course your parents 363 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:15.599 are old school and they say, oh yeah, but you're going to pay 364 00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:19.079 your dues, and it's important that you should work for less because you're getting 365 00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:22.720 so much valuable workplace experience. I have this argument with my parents all the 366 00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:26.359 time where they talk about my kids. You know, they look at their 367 00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:30.480 grandkids and they say, oh, you should just whatever the employer wants, 368 00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:32.640 you should give it to him. And I tell my kids, I go 369 00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:36.640 listen. You should get what you think you're worth. And if you think 370 00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:41.319 that the experience of working in a particular company is worth it, then great, 371 00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:45.000 do it. If you don't keep looking, I'll give you an example. 372 00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:48.000 My oldest son, he doesn't work for him anymore, but my oldest 373 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:55.279 son was very excited he got a job with Tesla. No, he listened. 374 00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:59.319 He he's an IT guy now and he's working with cybersecurity stuff now, 375 00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:02.759 but that wasn't what he was doing back then. Back then, he was 376 00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:07.319 basically in the auto industry, and they call it a porter. He was 377 00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:12.440 washing cars, he was vacuuming demos, this sort of thing. Right. 378 00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:15.720 He was at one of the the Tesla I guess they call hi showrooms, 379 00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:19.119 right, it's not a it's not a dealership with the showroom. So that's 380 00:28:19.160 --> 00:28:25.279 what he was doing, and they were paying him bump kiss. I mean, 381 00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:30.319 he was young, he had just done his his his boot camp and 382 00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:33.759 he was in the Marine Reserves, and he was he had been working at 383 00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:37.839 a gas station or something at the time, and so he was all excited 384 00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:40.279 that he got to work for Tesla. He's like, I'm working for Tesla. 385 00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:42.839 I'm with Tesla. And he loved the prestige of having Tesla on his 386 00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:49.160 resume. But after a while, the prestige of Tesla wore off because he 387 00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:52.720 felt like he wasn't making enough money. He thought he was working really hard 388 00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:59.039 and he wasn't making anything, and so I said, is it still worth 389 00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:02.440 it? I said, I love that you're there. The part of his 390 00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:07.000 compensation with stock option, so he took advantage of that which was great sold 391 00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:10.599 him before Tesla blew up, but he sold him so it was an exciting 392 00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:12.160 time for him. But was it worth it in the end? Nah. 393 00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:15.640 He was young. He was excited about the name, but he didn't realize 394 00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:19.440 that the money just wasn't there. So one of the things that students say 395 00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:23.039 is they don't know about the money until after the job offer is made. 396 00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:29.440 This is one of those situations where and I know what I'm about to say 397 00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:30.319 is going to be divisive. Some of you are going to cheer me on, 398 00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:33.440 if some of you are going to hate me. But this is one 399 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:36.920 of the reasons that I think unions are very valuable. It's also one of 400 00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:40.920 the reasons that unions are despised by the business friendly right, because they level 401 00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:45.319 a playing field and if you're a business person, it feels like you're having 402 00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:48.559 your leverage taken away. Well, listen, we've always done it this way 403 00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:51.880 and it's always worked out really well, and our margins are good. Yeah, 404 00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:53.880 but the people aren't really being paid with their worth, and so the 405 00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:56.920 union knows what they're worth, and so the union negotiats and yeah, but 406 00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:00.519 now we're going to pay him. I mean, it would you'd be like 407 00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:04.440 the teacher who once turned a blind eye to the kids that use notes on 408 00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:07.319 the test. Some of us would have called that cheating. They said, 409 00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:11.839 I'm not cheating, I'm referencing. And suppose the teacher said, okay, 410 00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:15.039 you know what, I've noticed that some of you are using notes. If 411 00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:18.359 I wasn't clear before, if you're trying to game the system, you may 412 00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:22.039 not use notes on the exam. And some of the kids that were using 413 00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:26.279 notes with the basically the book copied out of their phones, they started, 414 00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:30.119 well, that's not fair. We've always done it this way, right. 415 00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:33.599 That's not to say things can't tip the other way when it comes to the 416 00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:36.720 unions, and all of a sudden, you feel like the unions are taking 417 00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:38.559 advantage of the companies and it ends up being more difficult for the companies. 418 00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:41.960 That certainly happens, we have examples of that in American history. But when 419 00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:52.119 the companies are being let's just say koy about the the pay, or they're 420 00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:57.839 not really negotiating in good faith on the value of the position, that's not 421 00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:03.440 fair either, not at all. If you do get that job that you 422 00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:06.359 want, you do get that great job, you're all excited about it, 423 00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:08.759 and you've been working from home for a while, but now you've got to 424 00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:14.200 go into the office. There's a chance you picked up some bad habits along 425 00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:21.200 the way. So the Washington Post without an article that is supposed to give 426 00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:23.880 us an idea. Now the new work etiquette. If you can't spot the 427 00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:29.000 jerk, it might be you. If you're doing these things at work, 428 00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:32.880 you're the problem. Some of these things, by the way, are generational 429 00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:37.519 gossiping. They say you should gossip more, but you have to do it 430 00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:41.359 the right way. They say it's a useful tool for navigating the modern workplace. 431 00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:47.839 Use gossip and private conversations to share your salaries with coworkers and find out 432 00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:51.960 if you're being underpaid. My parents would never have done that. Never. 433 00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:56.319 I don't even I don't like talking about They say, use it to vent 434 00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:00.599 about issues that you're having. If your company isn't turmoil. Gossip is a 435 00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:04.480 way to keep up in the latest drama. But avoid talking about people's private 436 00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:07.480 lives behind their backs. Don't engage in personal attacks, and know when to 437 00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:13.599 keep a secret. Don't be a meeting tyrant, they say, never send 438 00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:17.119 a meeting invitation without context or schedule a meeting with when someone is not available. 439 00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:22.400 In other words, you're supposed to basically have an individual meeting with everybody 440 00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:25.279 before you schedule a meeting with everybody, to make sure that everybody's going to 441 00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:30.160 be available for the meeting with everybody. Oo, okay, this is okay. 442 00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:34.240 Listen, Washington Post, you're kind of making me crazy. They say 443 00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:37.720 you're annoying your coworkers with your keyboard and your voice. You need to stop 444 00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:44.839 hammering on your keyboard mark. They say, yeah, it's you share information 445 00:32:44.920 --> 00:32:49.440 in the right places. Ask people how they like to receive information. This 446 00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:52.400 one kind of makes me crazy. I feel like good managers start to figure 447 00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:58.519 this out. But ask people how they like to receive information. Some people 448 00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:06.240 still shockingly for email, you mean shockingly. Some like Slack or teams, 449 00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:09.000 while others want that face to face, whether it's in person or via video 450 00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:15.960 chat. Wherever you're responding to or communicating with your colleagues, make sure it's 451 00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:21.119 one they check. In other words, you have to make sure they like 452 00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:23.440 it. Yeah, but what if it's one that I don't use? See 453 00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:29.960 the problem Catch twenty two, Like when my wife sends me TikTok videos, 454 00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:34.559 I don't like to talk. I'm not gonna see your videos, but that's 455 00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:39.240 the way I like to communicate. Well, you fail up next. There's 456 00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:43.039 no business like Robin. I'm gona let you do it tonight, all right, 457 00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:49.119 there's no business like I think she's asleep on the job. You're not 458 00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:54.519 gonna get it, job leaves no. Wow, I would demand my money 459 00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:58.759 back if I were you. And the thing is, Robin knows because I 460 00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:00.039 work with her on the weekends. Rob and should be right on top of 461 00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:06.799 that. She just doesn't care. Wow. Why why? Alright, it's 462 00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:10.199 too late now, noone knows now that really you listen, I'm hurt right 463 00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:15.880 now. All right, there's no show business like business. That's yeah, 464 00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:20.199 that's nice. Nope, too late, you're dead to me. You've been 465 00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:23.320 listening to Later with Mo Kelly. You can always hear us live on kf 466 00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:28.960 I Am six forty seven pm to ten pm every Monday through Friday, and 467 00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:31.519 anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.