WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.600 --> 00:00:08.119 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez Fox Sports fourteen 2 00:00:08.119 --> 00:00:13.599 to fifty, powered by Nova Insurance Services and Sure Your Most Prized Possessions, 3 00:00:13.720 --> 00:00:18.480 kat c R two, SAG and iHeartRadio Station. Hey, good afternoon, 4 00:00:18.559 --> 00:00:21.679 everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. 5 00:00:21.960 --> 00:00:26.399 I'm Steve Rivera. Jay is out again today on his feet up doing nothing 6 00:00:26.440 --> 00:00:30.559 at home. Actually he's stuff feeling well for a second day. I have 7 00:00:30.960 --> 00:00:36.880 bringing your kids to work day. I brought Juan and Adam, who otherwise 8 00:00:36.920 --> 00:00:39.759 this show would not be going on if they were not here. They know 9 00:00:39.799 --> 00:00:44.159 how to handle the board. Welcome, guys, appreciate you having me back. 10 00:00:44.799 --> 00:00:47.200 Good to be here. Don't screw it up, guys, let me 11 00:00:47.240 --> 00:00:52.479 do that. This will keep your job for the summers. Although Adam, 12 00:00:52.520 --> 00:00:54.719 I didn't know you were leaving pretty soon. This is it, right, 13 00:00:55.479 --> 00:00:59.679 Captain down time. Yeah, I've already got the picks and everything. Oh 14 00:00:59.759 --> 00:01:04.040 yeah, official, it's a pick official face Facebook official, not Facebook, 15 00:01:04.159 --> 00:01:07.959 Instagram, whatever your kids whatever you guys do, and you kids, I 16 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:11.439 do have TikTokers and all those whatever you guys call you guests. Those I 17 00:01:11.439 --> 00:01:18.840 know Adam to TikToker. I'm never TikTok. I've never either. Adam doesn't 18 00:01:18.879 --> 00:01:23.040 look like a TikToker. Well, and I'm not too sure about you. 19 00:01:23.159 --> 00:01:26.599 Why is that? I don't know. You're still young, hip, maybe 20 00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:30.519 a little. You're not wrong, Yeah you are? I am right right? 21 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:34.359 Yeah, Okay, Hey, welcome everybody. I hope to get through 22 00:01:34.359 --> 00:01:37.680 two hours of this should be a fun show. Uh. We normally have 23 00:01:37.799 --> 00:01:41.959 Jake Fisher on Fridays. Asked him to come in today. He's out somewhere 24 00:01:42.120 --> 00:01:46.560 and join life up north. So we'll find Jake. We haven't had Jake 25 00:01:46.560 --> 00:01:49.359 in a while, so be prepared for a lot of smack talking. And 26 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:53.599 I want to talk to you more about Nil because he was part of that 27 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:59.719 initial group way back when that were that were fighting the uh Nancy double a 28 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:02.200 tonight. He was part of all that, and I'm not sure he'll talk 29 00:02:02.239 --> 00:02:06.000 about it, and I know he's been reluctant to do that, just to 30 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:07.879 see what he thinks, how it's become or what has become. I don't 31 00:02:07.919 --> 00:02:13.240 think this is what they had in mind when they were fighting the NCAA for 32 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:16.919 payment for these student athletes. So go with that for a while, see 33 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:23.159 what he thinks about the football transfer portal and the playing and all that and 34 00:02:23.240 --> 00:02:28.400 the basketball situation. As guys are coming and going, he's always on the 35 00:02:28.439 --> 00:02:32.080 internet, Facebook and on Twitter talking about stuff like that. And then the 36 00:02:32.120 --> 00:02:37.159 second hour should be a lot of fun. The derby is Saturday. So 37 00:02:37.800 --> 00:02:40.639 I decided to reach out to our girl D. Obviously everyone knows D former 38 00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:46.400 intered popular with everybody on the show. She's now after getting her job about 39 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:51.800 del Mar, she's now with fan Dual TV covering stuff at Santa Anita. 40 00:02:51.919 --> 00:02:57.439 So she if you watch the TVG broadcast, she's on there talking to jockeys 41 00:02:57.439 --> 00:03:00.599 and the interviewing a lot of people and talking about the horses things like that. 42 00:03:00.639 --> 00:03:04.039 She's a horse owner herself, so that's kind of what's got her into 43 00:03:04.080 --> 00:03:07.039 this, and she's doing really well. One of our former interns. Now 44 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:08.919 she just needs to get us ticks to sant A Nita and then my, 45 00:03:09.520 --> 00:03:13.360 then my, that's part of the process. You guys get you guys good 46 00:03:13.439 --> 00:03:15.240 jobs, and you guys invite us to go see where you're at. Right, 47 00:03:15.400 --> 00:03:17.280 that's the of it, right, that's the perk. Now, you 48 00:03:17.319 --> 00:03:21.560 guys just got a good jobs now yeah, okay, and Juan's going to 49 00:03:21.639 --> 00:03:24.840 be here for the summer hopefully, sir a local kid. Yeah, we're 50 00:03:25.120 --> 00:03:29.520 raising Tucson born and raising twos. You and Jay. You guys could be 51 00:03:29.719 --> 00:03:32.599 father's son. She's never left. I don't think he's never left gotten out 52 00:03:32.639 --> 00:03:37.360 of the county. I don't plan to leave. It's to love to. 53 00:03:37.639 --> 00:03:39.919 Yeah, I don't blame you. I don't blame you. So it's a 54 00:03:39.960 --> 00:03:43.199 lot of everything you need is right here. A lot of good food here, 55 00:03:43.319 --> 00:03:45.439 a lot of good food. I'm not sure. Well, I won't 56 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:46.719 even go there because people will hate me because of the Mexican food. I 57 00:03:46.759 --> 00:03:50.439 do like the Mexican food, it's just not my Mexican food. Have you 58 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:53.479 been the pocon Moms? You got to get out there special shout out to 59 00:03:55.080 --> 00:03:58.719 my family for years. Oh yeah, I know. They just changed ownership, 60 00:03:58.919 --> 00:04:01.960 right right. Staple that's our go to. When we lose bets to 61 00:04:02.080 --> 00:04:05.080 each other, we go there. That's how we pay people, go there 62 00:04:05.120 --> 00:04:10.560 and feed them uh and each other. So yeah, that's a good place. 63 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:13.680 Okay. So we're gonna talk about a lot of different things. You'll 64 00:04:13.719 --> 00:04:15.680 have breaking news. There's some things going on. You saw Kerr. We 65 00:04:15.720 --> 00:04:18.959 talked about curR. I want to talk about curR until d comes on. 66 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:24.160 She was not a big fan of curR. Uh we and she made it 67 00:04:24.199 --> 00:04:28.439 known. So we'll talk about that in the second hour. Oh, what 68 00:04:28.480 --> 00:04:30.680 else is going on? You're talking about a lot of things breaking news, 69 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:32.639 right, you talked about Georgia and we'll get we'll get to all that. 70 00:04:32.920 --> 00:04:39.959 Playoffs are still going big big games tonight Philly and New York, Milwaukee and 71 00:04:40.040 --> 00:04:46.079 Indiana both elimination games going on. Yeah, right, you've been in since 72 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:48.240 the break great spring break game. Yeah, were you here? Yeah, 73 00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:53.160 we talked a little about that. Did you good? You're a sportschan but 74 00:04:53.199 --> 00:04:56.240 you're like me, You only hay whatever, Man, it doesn't matter. 75 00:04:56.240 --> 00:04:59.199 I don't need to see sports. Who cares? That's why I like you, 76 00:04:59.240 --> 00:05:01.399 Adam, Like, it's not life changing. Yeah, you just gonna 77 00:05:01.439 --> 00:05:05.480 go do your job and get the hell out right. Okay, good luck 78 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:13.120 with that. Look what's done for me? So who do you guys have 79 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:15.040 winning in the whole thing? Oh? You talked him. Let's talk about 80 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:16.519 this real quick. He just brought it up coming in and I don't know 81 00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:23.800 if you can use this for breaking news, but Fields the field situation, 82 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:28.759 that's odd. I definitely find it odd that when you go and sign Russell 83 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:30.759 Wilson, then you bring in Justin Fields and now you're gonna have him go 84 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:33.360 and returning kickoffs, punts, whatever you want to do. Is that you 85 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:35.480 think that's just a threat. What do you think that is? I think 86 00:05:36.079 --> 00:05:41.600 personally it's just for media attention. I think they're just trying to get the 87 00:05:41.639 --> 00:05:44.439 Steelers back on the map, and I think that's their way of doing it. 88 00:05:44.519 --> 00:05:47.519 But I mean, if if it works, their genius. They quote 89 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:50.399 him saying I'm willing to do it, Well, that's just saying that I 90 00:05:51.120 --> 00:05:56.160 read was Jalen Warren, the running back talk to the special teams coach. 91 00:05:56.600 --> 00:06:01.759 With the new kickoff return rules, they were planning maybe on utilizing fields, 92 00:06:01.800 --> 00:06:04.879 but I think that I don't think I agree. I don't think that's gonna 93 00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:10.600 happen. Being a Bear fan, I've seen fields. That's not the best 94 00:06:10.959 --> 00:06:13.800 use of him. As you mentioned earlier, like you could get hurt, 95 00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:18.160 right, ole plan goes to a crashing and so no way, no way, 96 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:21.480 I don't think that happens, right. But okay, and you were 97 00:06:21.480 --> 00:06:28.240 in your Bears jersey, Okay, tells you how much I pay attention. 98 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:32.199 Whose is it just anybody? It's just started the new ones? Oh okay, 99 00:06:32.319 --> 00:06:35.600 cool? Okay, anything else, guys that you want to talk about? 100 00:06:35.920 --> 00:06:39.040 The Derby is coming up. You guys probably don't follow us, Sam, 101 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:42.639 We did. We talked about it a little yesterday. It's always it's 102 00:06:42.680 --> 00:06:46.240 always great to watch the Derby. I love it. I'm not sure is 103 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:50.040 there a favorite? Yeah, there is fierceness. Fierceness looks like the favorite, 104 00:06:50.120 --> 00:06:56.600 right the horse I like this is Sierra. Uh god, I want 105 00:06:56.639 --> 00:06:59.839 to say sire a miss, but the stuff you're a miss of thirsty. 106 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:04.720 But we'll talk more about that with the in the second hour. I've been 107 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:10.279 reading the form most of the morning to get ready for that segment and trying 108 00:07:10.279 --> 00:07:13.600 to find a winner. What else, guys, anything at U of A. 109 00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:15.680 Everyone's pretty excited to get the heck out of town, right because you 110 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:19.519 get about a week? Yeah, yes, one week. Yesterday was the 111 00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:24.879 last day of classes at the oh was it official last day? But then 112 00:07:24.920 --> 00:07:30.079 we still have finals and everything. Yeah, yeah about Wednesday right from Eagles 113 00:07:30.199 --> 00:07:34.720 until Monday, So I'm I'm officially a senior on Monday. Okay, Cool? 114 00:07:35.319 --> 00:07:40.160 Cool, and you're talking about the playoffs more. Milwaukee's gonna do what 115 00:07:40.199 --> 00:07:44.279 they need to do. So Milwaukee, Uh, Lillard is gonna play from 116 00:07:44.319 --> 00:07:46.560 what reports are saying, what about you? Honest, honest, probably a 117 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:51.759 game time call. H If they're back, they're the better team. But 118 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:59.000 obviously missed. They did well without them. They did know that last win 119 00:07:59.120 --> 00:08:03.199 was pretty big with both of them mount in Indiana not closing the deal. 120 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:09.959 But the line right now is around six and a half for Indy Giannis as 121 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:15.399 of right now. Oh, you just gotta rolled out. So okay, 122 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:18.959 So uh this game six, right, game six in Indiana, they need 123 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:22.240 to win it. And then I kind of I'm impartial to Indiana because of 124 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:28.800 because of TJ McConnell and uh, that's so much's been Yeah, but he 125 00:08:28.839 --> 00:08:31.879 hasn't been playing for a long time because of an injury. But but but 126 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:35.039 TJ McConnell one of the best guys around, just the fundamental point guard that 127 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:37.399 you like. Yeah, you know, we talk about that all the time, 128 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:41.480 right, Arizona hasn't had one forever, well since him, you know, 129 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:46.639 the prototypical point guard. Even though they've had talented people, they haven't 130 00:08:46.679 --> 00:08:50.759 had those guys, right, I mean, yeah, they could use the 131 00:08:50.799 --> 00:08:54.799 point guard like him. Absolutely that any predictions. You got a prediction for 132 00:08:54.840 --> 00:09:00.840 tonight. I think the fact that it's in Indie gives the over it's over. 133 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:03.600 I think it's over tonight. I think Pacers move on to a second 134 00:09:03.679 --> 00:09:05.679 round. Who do they play? If they will, they would play Boston. 135 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:11.600 That should be fun. But you know what, he's gonna miss round 136 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:16.159 two? Probably not, but nobody's probably beating Boston. But you have a 137 00:09:16.200 --> 00:09:22.120 boxers shot, maybe hitters chance. Yeah, okay, we'll see. Because 138 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:24.039 they can score and he can score. They can score. They don't play 139 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:30.360 defense. But Milwaukee losing Drew Holliday, they they've been awful defensively. So 140 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:35.600 there's this trend in the East that the home teams win. So I think 141 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:37.480 and a good honest do you know what, I may have that wrong. 142 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:41.159 I think I think they play the winner of the Knicks Sixers. I think 143 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:46.720 Cleveland and Orlando would play Boston. Oh okay, yeah, you're right, 144 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:50.399 you're right, because he talked about that last night. The white guy. 145 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:56.919 What's the first thing white for Boston? I think it's Boston. He had 146 00:09:56.960 --> 00:10:01.080 a big game guard. Sure, no white, No, not a white 147 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:07.960 guy. Yeah, what you look at me? I said, no, 148 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:11.240 not that, not that. He's quite Yeah, and he's come on, 149 00:10:11.399 --> 00:10:16.840 he's played well. Tremendous move by Boston. San Antonio could have used him. 150 00:10:16.919 --> 00:10:20.200 Yeah, he's a Spur fan. I know, I know, I 151 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:24.759 know we lost, but no, he does everything right. He plays defense, 152 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:28.960 he can score much better shooter. Now you guys, you guys, 153 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:31.120 uh your age, follow that stuff right here. We got a call real 154 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:35.240 quick, probably saying that we suck right now. Hey, you're on the 155 00:10:35.240 --> 00:10:39.039 air, eye on the wall. Hey, you choose your Tommy Sue. 156 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:41.399 Hey, you guys, man haven't called in for a while. Tommy, 157 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:46.279 where you been then, Well you don't have to tell. I've just been 158 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:50.279 listening. I'm really glad we got umar Bano. But you got these young 159 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:54.000 guys on there saying the faces aren't ain't good, don't play any defense, 160 00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:58.200 and they didn't even know which team's playing? Who next? What is going 161 00:10:58.240 --> 00:11:01.480 on? That's all Adam, Well, Temmy, you got to agree. 162 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:05.519 They don't play defense in the NBA. Although although the scoring is down in 163 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:09.679 the playoffs, which is kind of probably normal, the Pacers played just enough 164 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:13.320 defense to keep them honest. Well, if we make three steals a game, 165 00:11:13.399 --> 00:11:16.480 that's all we need. We don't need anything else. Are they gonna 166 00:11:16.480 --> 00:11:20.159 get by their next opponent? Well after they get by tonight. Oh. 167 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:26.159 I put when they were one hundred thousand to one odds before the playoffs started 168 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:31.320 to win the championship, I put ten dollars down on them. So I'm 169 00:11:31.320 --> 00:11:33.840 gonna make like, what's ten times one hundred thousands. Well, you won't 170 00:11:33.879 --> 00:11:39.200 be calling us anymore if that happens, you'll be somewhere. I might buy 171 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:41.519 the station. Hey, that's fine. Just be a good boss. It's 172 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:45.559 all I care about. Just be a good viel right. Hey, thanks 173 00:11:45.559 --> 00:11:48.240 to have fun, be well, Thomas, take care of going. Thanks 174 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:50.080 for calling. This kind of makes a point. We're talking a lot of 175 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:52.919 crap and not annoying. What the but that's called every day on the show. 176 00:11:54.519 --> 00:11:58.320 That's true? How do you guys know it's true? It's not true. 177 00:11:58.360 --> 00:12:01.320 I'm just joking. It could be true. Know you're right? Okay, 178 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:07.840 basketball basketball, We were talking real quick about the guys that you know, 179 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:11.919 the U of a guys. Bradley like you to come back, right, 180 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:13.320 don't you think you think so? I think he's just testing it out 181 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:16.960 what he can work on for next year. Yet, what what do you 182 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:22.879 think he needs to work on next year? Well, he's gotta play true 183 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:24.360 point guard some more of them he's not because he has. He did not 184 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:28.080 play right? What do you think that? What do you how do you 185 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:31.960 think he played it? Because I get them this, this this discussion with 186 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:37.240 people all the time. Not a distributor, I don't think so. But 187 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:41.519 he can easily work on that. He's a slasher. I think he needs 188 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:45.240 to work on his jumper obviously more. But he's a downhill guy, right. 189 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:48.720 He goes to the basket every time. To me, it's a downhill, 190 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:50.639 head down, get to the basket, get fouled, and get a 191 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:56.080 shot. Okay, okay, But he's not that guy. He can't be 192 00:12:56.120 --> 00:13:00.919 that guy at the pointe No, not in college. It's like the ball 193 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:05.320 disappears into his hands and and if you're gonna be the point guard, you 194 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:09.000 got to distribute. You can be that player, but just not as much 195 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:13.320 as him. I think that's the biggest issue they had last year, not 196 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:16.879 having a true point guard to settle things down when things were getting a little 197 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:20.000 radic and just like Boswell, just up and down to up and down and 198 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:24.320 he's not a true point guard in my opinion. So well, he h 199 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:26.600 two years ago he seemed like he was a little it seemed like in a 200 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:30.919 less reduced roll off the bench being the spark plug. Yeah, you can 201 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:35.120 give that scoring punch, but as as a main focus, yeah, no, 202 00:13:35.639 --> 00:13:37.440 Well I think if that you're doing your evaluation, that's how it plays 203 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:41.240 out. But I think there is some of that in him. Yeah, 204 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:46.080 and maybe it changes a scenery, helps that, but here it just kind 205 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:48.759 of was a freaky situation where after the first maybe eight games, it was 206 00:13:48.840 --> 00:13:52.960 like, what the hell happened to Boswell? It's a mystery. It's a 207 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:56.320 mystery. Yeah, well, what do you think too? Same thing? 208 00:13:56.399 --> 00:14:01.279 One. I think had a little bit of with him with his confidence, 209 00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:07.559 But I also think the fans of Tucson and Arizona can be a bit harsh 210 00:14:07.240 --> 00:14:11.360 the question of his head without question, do you think he cared about that? 211 00:14:11.879 --> 00:14:15.519 I mean, do you think right, I got to a point where 212 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:18.759 the noise was too loud. And he's young too, he's just a kid 213 00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:22.879 and that yeah nineteen yeah, yeah, but I also heard the eighteen nineteen 214 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:26.720 he was doing stuff. Yeah, you should not have been doing well, 215 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:28.919 and we're all you guys were college kids, you know whatever. I was 216 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:31.480 a college kid. I didn't do that. But wait, he tell us 217 00:14:31.480 --> 00:14:35.799 twenty one. Yeah, of course, of course. Sure, okay, 218 00:14:35.799 --> 00:14:39.080 Hey, let's take a break. 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I'm doing well. Guys, how 292 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:56.480 are you doing? We're doing well. Thank you very much. Been a 293 00:19:56.519 --> 00:20:00.720 long time you've been out and about it has been in a while. Last 294 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:03.279 week I couldn't get on because we were out off roading. And this week 295 00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:07.640 I'm up in Christopher Creek with my wife. We're just hanging out in a 296 00:20:07.680 --> 00:20:11.799 cabin. We got a bunch of elks that are hanging out by the cabin 297 00:20:11.920 --> 00:20:15.200 right now and doing some other off roading activity stuff like that while we're up 298 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:18.079 here. It must be nice, must be nice, that good business must 299 00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:22.400 be good. We'll get tech is. We'll get to that later. So 300 00:20:23.039 --> 00:20:26.000 let's talk real quick about basketball. Go to football. Let's go to football 301 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:30.039 first. You like or not like what's going on with the transfer portal with 302 00:20:30.079 --> 00:20:34.440 Arizona. Well, I like the results, I thought. As soon as 303 00:20:34.480 --> 00:20:38.839 Jeed Fish went to Washington, I was assuming probably like everybody else, he'd 304 00:20:38.839 --> 00:20:42.119 take quite a few people with him. And to be honest with your coach, 305 00:20:42.160 --> 00:20:45.880 Brennan and those guys did a hell of a job keeping Sacario and you 306 00:20:45.920 --> 00:20:51.160 know, just the main guys there. You know, obviously we're gonna have 307 00:20:51.200 --> 00:20:55.160 to fill in some pieces depth wise, and might need to find another starter 308 00:20:55.279 --> 00:20:59.079 on the offensive line. But I mean we're looking solid. I have no 309 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:02.319 you know, obviously we're going to need to see what the x's and o's 310 00:21:02.359 --> 00:21:04.160 look like, but we already know what the defense is going to look like. 311 00:21:04.200 --> 00:21:07.720 It's going to be aggressive, and I'm just you know, I'm hoping 312 00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:11.480 that we can establish a really good run game so that that passing threat, 313 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:15.279 you know, especially with some of the young receivers coming back, you know, 314 00:21:15.359 --> 00:21:18.799 hits well, so were there was there a player or two that you 315 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:21.559 thought, okay, if we guy, if we get this guy to come 316 00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:25.640 back, we'll be okay, Like Tacario is one of them. Maybe yeah, 317 00:21:25.799 --> 00:21:27.440 just because you know, I thought we were going to have him in 318 00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:30.680 Pristock coming back, and I thought we were going to have you know, 319 00:21:30.720 --> 00:21:36.480 the best hande met starting corner in the Big twelve. And you know when 320 00:21:36.480 --> 00:21:37.640 he left, I was like, Okay, well, now we just got 321 00:21:37.680 --> 00:21:41.640 to hang on to ta Caio because some of the draft boards have him as 322 00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:44.519 a first round draft pick. Now we just need to find someone to pair 323 00:21:44.599 --> 00:21:48.119 up with him. I you know, I think that the safety, you 324 00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:52.119 know, position is pretty well counted for. We got a couple of NFL 325 00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:55.960 guys back there, but we just needed that one solid corner to pair with 326 00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:59.119 Tacario, and I thought that our defense was going to be fine. I 327 00:21:59.160 --> 00:22:03.279 thought as long as as Noah and Team Matt came back, I thought that 328 00:22:03.359 --> 00:22:07.519 the offensive line would stay in tax just because, like apparently those guys have 329 00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:11.200 a solid relationship and they love playing for Noah. So you know that, 330 00:22:11.319 --> 00:22:15.160 as soon as they went out to the court during the UCLA home game and 331 00:22:15.160 --> 00:22:18.160 they announced that they were staying, I knew we were going to have quite 332 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:22.279 a few guys coming back. But there was still just because of the way 333 00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:25.799 the transfer portal is nowadays, there's still always something in the back of your 334 00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:27.200 head saying, well, you know, let's hurry up and get the same 335 00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:30.160 closed because I don't want to lose any more guys. What's your I don't 336 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:36.799 think I've ever asked you this impression. But question about your impression on Noah, 337 00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:40.759 given the fact that god's been a number of years since you played, 338 00:22:41.160 --> 00:22:44.519 maybe ten twelve, I think you were one of the team's leaders, kind 339 00:22:44.559 --> 00:22:48.279 of a spokesman to Jake Fisher with his long hair and all that stuff. 340 00:22:48.839 --> 00:22:53.519 Noah handles himself very well. What are your impressions of that part of his 341 00:22:53.599 --> 00:23:00.319 game? Well, I think obviously he was raised extremely well. It is 342 00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:04.599 very very well spoken, humble, and he just got he has kind of 343 00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:07.839 got that silent swag about him when he's on the field, you know what 344 00:23:07.880 --> 00:23:14.480 I mean. He just looks comfortable in any situation, And especially if you're 345 00:23:14.519 --> 00:23:17.799 a young guy or you're someone that hasn't started many games, as soon as 346 00:23:17.799 --> 00:23:19.880 you go in and you have that and you know that he's gonna lead you 347 00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:22.759 down the field and do well, it kind of helps you settle in a 348 00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:26.880 little bit more. And then if you're on the defensive side, you know, 349 00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:30.279 especially with a guy that can you know he might throw for thirty five 350 00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:33.960 plus touchdowns this coming year, you know you're going to be in every game, 351 00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:38.839 so that that quiet humbleness that you know, silence swag he's got is 352 00:23:38.880 --> 00:23:44.319 awesome. Right right, Okay, today as we speak, and having played 353 00:23:44.359 --> 00:23:48.400 here yourself, who are maybe the top three football players to have ever shoot 354 00:23:48.440 --> 00:23:52.440 it up for Arizona in your mind? There's no wrong answer. Obviously, 355 00:23:52.839 --> 00:23:56.680 I'm gonna go ahead and go with the top three guys that I ended up 356 00:23:56.720 --> 00:24:00.440 playing with, just because obviously you got the Teddy brus Kis, you got, 357 00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:04.119 you know, Waldrive, you got uh, you know, Gronk, 358 00:24:04.200 --> 00:24:07.519 you got those guys. But the guys that I played with that I'm gonna 359 00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:11.720 put in my top there are going to be Kadeem Scooby, and then we're 360 00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:15.079 gonna go ahead and put Nick Foles in there. Yeah, okay, that's 361 00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:18.200 your kind of and I'm gonna do four. We're gonna put Bruces Reed in 362 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:22.240 there too, Oh okay, another NFL guy. Yeah, So not a 363 00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:25.240 bad list. Uh. And I was telling the kids here now because they 364 00:24:25.240 --> 00:24:27.160 saw him and I've seen him now, I think when all is said and 365 00:24:27.200 --> 00:24:30.200 done, and I think t Meck will have one more year that he'll be 366 00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:34.640 the best all time player that I've ever seen here. Yeah. Well, 367 00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:40.000 you know we didn't get you know, a full three years from uh from 368 00:24:40.039 --> 00:24:42.960 Gronk. Unfortunately, I you know that last year he didn't get to play 369 00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:47.920 and then uh, you know, Foles us here during the h that transition 370 00:24:48.039 --> 00:24:51.799 when the Steus regime came to an end, and I think that just him 371 00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:56.200 not having some of those uh those receivers to throw to that kind of hurt 372 00:24:56.279 --> 00:24:59.480 him that last year, even though he's still balled out. But I can 373 00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:03.200 see team being the best pro prospects, to be honest with you, I 374 00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:07.319 mean him and that and you know Jonas Savina. I mean, I think 375 00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:11.599 those guys have a twelve to fifteen year career in the NFL. They're gonna 376 00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:12.960 make a lot of money, They're gonna make a lot of people happy. 377 00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:18.319 And but yeah, I can I can see t Mac being the at least 378 00:25:18.319 --> 00:25:22.279 he's the best receiver right right right, very talented. And what do you 379 00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:26.240 think about MANA man who is just awesome. He's got a nose for the 380 00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:33.160 ball. You know, there's a few young young linebackers who since I've been 381 00:25:33.200 --> 00:25:37.039 there and left, have come in and done really well. You know, 382 00:25:37.079 --> 00:25:41.119 you got Scooby Collin, Schooler, those guys, and then Man who kind 383 00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:45.480 of fits that same, that same mold where he's just always around the ball 384 00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:51.599 and He comes from a great uh you know, a great program where they 385 00:25:51.640 --> 00:25:53.759 actually taught him, uh you know, all the ax of the os, 386 00:25:53.880 --> 00:25:57.359 ins and outs of a it seems like of a you know, like a 387 00:25:57.400 --> 00:26:02.319 college scheme. So he is well prepared and even though he's a little undersized, 388 00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:04.680 he he gets some people's face and he hits them. I love watching 389 00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:08.279 it, right right, Okay, let's move to basketball. What do you 390 00:26:08.319 --> 00:26:12.079 think about what's going on now? We got Bradley testing, you have kg 391 00:26:12.279 --> 00:26:18.599 Lewis testing, you have others guys coming and going. Well, the fact 392 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:22.079 that we haven't distsed back into the portal to get any replacements for those guys 393 00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:23.759 tells me that they're testing the waters. They're going to go ahead and hear 394 00:26:23.799 --> 00:26:27.160 from these NBA teams what they need to work on, and I think they're 395 00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:32.119 going to come back another year. I mean, if we get those two 396 00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:33.799 back, which I think they are coming back, if we get Caleb Love 397 00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:38.279 to come back along with the transfer that we got that you know, power 398 00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:41.240 forward, and then if Krebus makes the type of jump I think that he 399 00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:45.559 will. I mean, I think we have a top five, top eight 400 00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:48.440 starting five again. Now we just need to fill out some of the role 401 00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:52.680 players make sure some of these freshmen hit. But you know, Tommy Lloyd's 402 00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:56.960 always got summed up asleeve. He's got connections just everywhere, and it just 403 00:26:56.000 --> 00:27:00.519 seems like even though some of these guys could have went elsewhere to get a 404 00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:03.920 bigger bag, they want to play for a guy that's going to develop them 405 00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:07.680 and get him to the next level. Okay, So I'll ask you the 406 00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:10.519 question I ask a lot of people just randomly. I think we talked about 407 00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:14.000 this yesterday. I don't have heard this or a day before. Do you 408 00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:18.119 want Caleb to return? Is he you know, simple, simple as that. 409 00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:22.680 Yeah. Yeah, I mean he's gonna be He's gonna be an All 410 00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:26.039 American candidate. You know, he's gonna be one of the better players in 411 00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:29.839 the Big twelve. And you know he's proved it. You know what you're 412 00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:33.200 getting back with him, and it's just one more year in Tommy Lloyd's system, 413 00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:36.119 so you know he's going to improve. I just love the fact that 414 00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:41.759 last year, I mean his passing has gotten better. Uh, he always 415 00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:45.279 played hard on defense. He's a dog. Even if he goes zero for 416 00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:48.160 ten, I always trust him with that shot, and he kind of shot 417 00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:52.000 himself and us in my opinion, along with a couple others out of that 418 00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:57.759 uh that game against Clemson. But you know, with a with a point 419 00:27:57.759 --> 00:28:02.160 guard and Jaydon Brawley that can actually get to the bucket, kJ Lewis can 420 00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:04.200 get to the bucket. I think he's gonna have a lot more open threes 421 00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:07.680 where he's not happened to, you know, take somebody off the dribble and 422 00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:11.200 try to hit it. And just the fact that you have a four now 423 00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:15.039 that can actually shoot a little bit. I just think it's gonna be a 424 00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:18.920 much better situation for him. So do you think next year's team potentially could 425 00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:23.440 be better than this year's team? I think so, and I think it's 426 00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:29.680 just purely not maybe shooting wise, but the fact that Jaden Brawley and kJ 427 00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:33.039 you know, down the stretch, especially against Lempson, with Jayden, he 428 00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:37.000 shows that he's got a little bit more offensive firepower than people gave him credit 429 00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:41.240 for. He was getting to the rim, getting to the free throw line, 430 00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:42.519 he hit a couple of nice, you know, step back threes. 431 00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:45.240 I mean I didn't know that he had that in his game. But you 432 00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:49.079 have him and kJ who are going to be absolutely ridiculous. On the defensive 433 00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:52.759 end, I think we're gonna get a lot of a lot of fast break 434 00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:56.519 points next year. And I think that Delane, I don't think he's going 435 00:28:56.559 --> 00:29:00.079 to be clogged. I think previous think he's going to do a little bit 436 00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:03.799 better than nor Ballo did in terms of providing a little bit more spacing. 437 00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:07.359 And then that kid that we got from from Tennessee, if he's going to 438 00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:11.039 be the small ball five, you're just gonna bring another guy off the bench 439 00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:14.519 and you know, maybe a Carter Brian or one of these guys that's gonna 440 00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:17.279 be able to stretch the floor even more. So. I think we're going 441 00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:19.680 to have better spacing. I think that defense is going to be better overall, 442 00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:26.000 you know. And then I think that I think losing you know, 443 00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:27.960 I can't even remember his name now, but I think losing Pella is going 444 00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:32.279 to hurt a little bit more than people anticipate. I don't really think that 445 00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:37.839 losing Boswell is going to hit too hard. I think that Jason's gonna be 446 00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:40.880 a better, you know, a better point guard in general. But I 447 00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:42.160 think the loss of Pella is going to hurt the most. Yeah, And 448 00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:45.920 then don't forget the kid from Oakland who's a pretty good player. Yeah, 449 00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:48.839 that's the power forward I was talking about. He's going to provide another scoring 450 00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:52.799 threat. So if you got him and Caleb Love coming back, I think 451 00:29:52.839 --> 00:29:56.359 again, you're gonna have your entire starting five that's averaging ten plus points. 452 00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:00.559 I think him and Caleb Love are go going to average over fifteen. Yeah, 453 00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:03.920 okay, let me transition to something. Uh. Someone sent me a 454 00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:06.359 text maybe two weeks ago because we had an ed you on the show. 455 00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:08.400 He says, Uh, hey, Steve, can you be sure to teach 456 00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:15.720 you, mister Fisher Jake Jake this question, And I'm probably gonna mess it 457 00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:21.079 up because it's been two weeks just about the nil stuff. It was your 458 00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:23.519 time in a little before your time. You guys wanted to be paid all 459 00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:26.799 granted, everybody said, yes, you guys need to get paid. You 460 00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:30.359 you guys probably didn't think that it would come to this and how it looks 461 00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:36.440 today. No, it's it's still you know, it's still in in you 462 00:30:36.440 --> 00:30:37.640 know, it's kind of a whilest right now. You know, you got 463 00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:42.079 all these these collectives and stuff like that. I love the fact that if 464 00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:45.720 you're a good player, you can you know, go and do a commercial 465 00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:48.920 for you know, Jim Klick or you know, something like that where you 466 00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:52.200 get paid because you know, you're bringing a lot of money into the UH, 467 00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:56.920 into the program. But I mean, just remember back in the day 468 00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:00.599 how much different it was, where you know, eventually they had to selling 469 00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:06.000 jerseys with year on it, which was as like, imagine what a guy 470 00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:08.759 like Kadean Perry would have made. And then I l in Tucson. I 471 00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:11.880 mean, you know, just you have these guys that light up the field 472 00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:15.759 and they just do such an incredible job and they weren't able to get paid 473 00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:18.640 for it. And then the fact that you go home and if you don't 474 00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.039 have you know, if your parents don't make you know, under a certain 475 00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:25.480 dollar amount, you don't get you know, pell grants or you don't get 476 00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:27.599 you know, assistants. And then you know, if they you know, 477 00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:32.920 make over a certain amount, you're basically just getting a stipe and they can't 478 00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:36.640 really help you with the bills. So yeah, I was very very blessed 479 00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:38.160 that I had, you know, family that helped me with that. But 480 00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:41.680 the fact of the matter is, these guys deserve a lot, and I 481 00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:45.720 love what some of these colleges are doing where they're taking less money and they're 482 00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:49.559 spreading it out over the entire you know, over the tire team, just 483 00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:53.279 to make sure that they have money to you know, feed themselves and do 484 00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:56.960 a little bit more. And then just the fact, to be honest with 485 00:31:56.000 --> 00:32:00.480 you, that they're feeding the guys more, they're able to keep a little 486 00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:04.279 bit more money in their pocket. Yeah, okay, so you're fine with 487 00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:07.680 it. But is that pretty back great? You know, how do you 488 00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:12.000 My thing, My thing is more and I don't mean to cut you off. 489 00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:15.440 My thing is more to transfer portal kids. You know, I want 490 00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:20.200 kids to be able to go somewhere where if they want playing time or you 491 00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:22.680 know, if they can make more money or whatever. But you know, 492 00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:24.880 doing a different school every single year kind of gets ridiculous, you know. 493 00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:30.119 I mean, even though the even though the professionals sometimes you know, or 494 00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:34.400 the coaches sometimes have the ability and the pros to move around and do what 495 00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:37.799 they want to do, they're still contracts, you know, so they got 496 00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:40.359 to get that figured out. But you know, as long as the guy, 497 00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:43.720 the guys are getting paid for their efforts, that's really what I care 498 00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:46.680 about most. So eventually, and they talked about this. Could they eventually 499 00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:53.880 would you be okay if they become employees of the university, Well, that's 500 00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:58.799 tough. I you know, I would like them to get paid purely based 501 00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:02.480 on their effort. And if you know, if some of those guys were 502 00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:07.400 to become employees, that's fine, but I want to make sure that they 503 00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:12.279 get paid. You know, if you got to that's a row of McMillan. 504 00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:15.599 He needs to get paid more than your next you know, average guy. 505 00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:20.240 Yeah, yeah, that's tough. That's tough too, because you know, 506 00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:22.119 the average guy is gonna say, well, I'm here to work just 507 00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:27.359 as hard. Oh yeah, no, trust me, like it's it's it's 508 00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:30.599 tough, and there's not a perfect solution in my opinion. And you got 509 00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:35.279 to remember back when we were back when we were playing, the walk Ons 510 00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:37.759 are the usually the hardest workers on the team. They're usually the ones they 511 00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:40.039 always getting extra work, and they couldn't even come up to the training table 512 00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:45.160 unless they paid. So there's got to be something, you know, to 513 00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:49.160 where some of these guys not only going to get compensated, but there's got 514 00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:52.200 to be something where all of these things get addressed. I just don't know 515 00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:53.519 what it is, right, right, that's the whole thing that you have 516 00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:57.200 to figure out at the end of the day where to put the bumpers or 517 00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:00.319 the guidelines to make this work better. Yeah, exactly. You know, 518 00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:04.599 you guys know that my my whole family's from Nebraska and they I mean, 519 00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:07.280 they have they have it down. I mean, they've they've got so much 520 00:34:07.320 --> 00:34:12.280 money there. And I mean you got guys that are foregoing a scholarship because 521 00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:16.199 they're making enough money through NIL to also join the program. So I mean 522 00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:20.840 there's loopholes and things like that that people take advantage of. But you know, 523 00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:22.000 like I said, I just want the guys to get paid for their 524 00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:25.199 efforts. And I want to make sure that you know, these guys, 525 00:34:25.400 --> 00:34:29.480 with what we went through with the money stuff, I want to make sure 526 00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:32.360 that they actually, you know, don't have to go out by Ramen and 527 00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:36.719 you know, kind of sit on ten bucks for like, you know, 528 00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:38.840 nine, ten days at a time because that was frustrating. No, well 529 00:34:38.840 --> 00:34:43.239 that's what Steve Rivera does. So good luck, all right, Jake, 530 00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:46.880 thanks a bunch, go enjoy your your outing in the mountains. Absolutely, 531 00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:50.119 guys, thank you for having me on again, right, Jake to talk 532 00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:52.840 to you next week. Yeah, Jake Fisher, former u of a football 533 00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:58.239 player, under rated, undersize all that good good stuff when he played here 534 00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:00.559 a few years back. Okay, let's take the break then kind of see 535 00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:04.639 what we talk about after that. If you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, 536 00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:07.320 you know it's been successful for nearly forty years. Now take a look back 537 00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:10.159 at the Ludolsen era. In my new book, Lessons from Loot, it 538 00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:14.199 was a labor of love through the eyes of twenty five former players, coaches, 539 00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:16.639 and friends to give insight to the coach and the man who led them, 540 00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:21.199 competed against them, and inspired them. Twenty five chapters for his twenty 541 00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:24.519 five years as Arizona's beloved coach. Lessons from Lout is an insight to how 542 00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:30.360 he built the program into a national powerhouse. Want one Email me at Steve 543 00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:35.400 dot RIVERA ninety five at gmail dot com. 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Streamy Live, I mean, iHeartRadio. Wow. 569 00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:42.679 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox 570 00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:45.159 Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome back to TYE on the Ball here Fox 571 00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:50.119 Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Barbera, jays out today, got Adam and 572 00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:52.760 Juan with me in the studio. If you'd like to call, please do 573 00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:57.960 five two oh four one six seven four four. General. Uh, appreciate 574 00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:01.239 it. Howard called yesterday, talked about the Sons Cave, his apologies. 575 00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:07.320 Taking me to dinner again, that'd be great. His sons were just bad. 576 00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:15.440 Yeah, disappointing your sons, your I'm always always root for any Arizona 577 00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:19.480 team. It's been a tough life for you. Yes, tell me about 578 00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:24.239 it. Cardinals, I don't even know where to begin, Cardinal Dim all 579 00:38:24.280 --> 00:38:29.639 the Diamondbacks gave you some happiness last year until they didn't. It's always cool 580 00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:32.239 to see a city that hasn't won a championship in a while get close to 581 00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:39.639 it, right, and then being Arizona, sure, sure d the Dallas 582 00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:45.039 Cowboys of the of the of the world. Yeah, and you're a Laker, 583 00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:49.079 I'm Laker. And then Chicago for the rest. It's been a tough 584 00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:52.719 life. Well, I guess Lakers in two in the COVID year. Yeah 585 00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:57.519 what the title? Yeah, yeah, of course I counted it. Always 586 00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:01.599 like Jake Canada Dodgers that same year. Yeah, I mean COVID COVID SMO 587 00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:06.760 bit doesn't matter. It happened. Everybody got the same opportunity to play, 588 00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:10.920 So I'm not gonna knock him for winning where it was probably baby, this 589 00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:14.559 could be another thirty three years before it happens again. No, no, 590 00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:20.519 no, that's Lakers. Lakers get whoever they want generally. Yeah, yeah, 591 00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:23.840 and then this year not so much this year now Ron, I was 592 00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:27.320 just gonna say he wasn't bringing up his name because you guys are hearing. 593 00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:30.920 I don't really care about this, but is he And I know you're an 594 00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:34.360 You like the Lakers, so I know what I'm gonna get. So that's 595 00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:39.199 one the same question. Is Lebron that guy of being the baby of the 596 00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:45.719 league where he gets what he wants? He has his tantrums. I don't 597 00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:49.559 follow it enough. I see what I see in what context that he gets 598 00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:51.840 whatever he wants. Well, you know, you know I got fouled. 599 00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:52.960 I didn't get fouled. I fouled, you know, stuff like that. 600 00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:59.000 Where he's here, he's coddled a little maybe maybe maybe maybe a little bit. 601 00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:05.199 But I can't say that they call their fouls just to call more. 602 00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:08.000 For there is a superstar treatment, no doubt, but I don't think he 603 00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:12.440 gets what do you think? Does he get more calls? Do you think 604 00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:17.639 than another superstar? With rising stars? As of recently these last past couple 605 00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:21.360 of years, he doesn't get as many as he used to. But I 606 00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:24.840 think he still has his moments where he'll go and get a foul call because 607 00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:30.159 he's Lebron James. Yeah, especially if he's been working the refs right, 608 00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:34.400 begging for it or whatever word you want to use, right, Yeah, 609 00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:37.880 No, especially this last game because he was bouncing up and down and ranting 610 00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:43.800 and raving and they got beat. Yeah, frustrating trading. So it is 611 00:40:43.800 --> 00:40:45.400 what it is. It's there's still you know, he's still Lebron's for what 612 00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:49.400 almost thirty nine forty it's going to be forty in December. Yeah, so 613 00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:52.119 you know, the guy can still play with the best of them the lead 614 00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:54.599 level. Yeah, absolutely right, and he just needs help like everybody else, 615 00:40:55.159 --> 00:41:00.360 the Suns, they the Lakers need a third guy. Phoenix needs a 616 00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:06.360 point guard, some depth, more more defense. Obviously ur Kitch doesn't cut 617 00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:12.800 it. Bradley Beal's Yeah, that was you couldn't. I don't know where 618 00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:15.039 to go there, but it was a disaster and his contract, got a 619 00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:19.480 giant contract, and he's you know, over thirty now, so he's on 620 00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:23.239 the wrong side of thirty with some injury history. So Booker, I still 621 00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:30.000 love KD. Maybe slowing down in some respects, but still dominant. So 622 00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:35.840 I thought this year he wasn't as consistent. Who Booker could he could he 623 00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:38.519 Yeah, especially in the playoffs. I felt like his entire career he was 624 00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:42.320 a playoff guy, and this one I don't think he showed it as much. 625 00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:45.199 Maybe that's just with age or what's been going on with the team, 626 00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:49.920 but I just didn't think he was as consistent this year. Yeah, that 627 00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:52.599 was just me. Maybe that was just my frustrations as an Arizona You guys 628 00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:55.639 followed teams, You guys Royal. Few teams like Arizona know, you guys 629 00:41:55.639 --> 00:42:00.719 are gonna be graduates, Adam and one eventually. Do you do you like 630 00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:04.679 the fact that the Caleb Loves of the world, the curves of the world, 631 00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:07.480 are able to come here, stay a year or two, jump to 632 00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:09.840 another team, jump to another team. It's one of the reasons why I'm 633 00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:13.599 not a big sports fan. There's no loyalty. And then they mean that's 634 00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:16.239 too far reaching for me. I just you know, it's not that important 635 00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:19.079 in my life, although I do it for a living. You know what 636 00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:21.880 I'm saying, Where it's hard to be or fall in love with a team 637 00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:25.519 when that happens, mhm. I'm an old school guy. I've used to 638 00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:31.679 love college footbotn't like where it's heading right now. I don't like the I 639 00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:35.920 think it's great for them personally, the players. As a fan, I 640 00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:37.960 don't like it at all. I don't like believing in the guy for a 641 00:42:38.039 --> 00:42:45.480 year and then he's gone going against another might end up playing right now, 642 00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:49.360 I was gonna say, maybe even a chance to see see you play against 643 00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:52.840 him? Yeah, I mean, I think I remember a transfer rules used 644 00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:58.519 to be like you had to sit right. It's everything so sporadic now it's 645 00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:01.400 to your point, it's very hard to get attached to somebody of constant movement, 646 00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:06.800 right. But they're trying to do what's best for the players, and 647 00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:09.800 you know, you can understand from their point of view. With that being 648 00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:13.880 said, though, I think the other side of it, when they do 649 00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:21.920 decide to come back, it's it's amazing because giving everyone was very unsure, 650 00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:24.599 and I think all of us had a feeling that they were going to Seattle, 651 00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:30.719 and when they came onto that court against UCLA, I think the city 652 00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:35.280 of Tucson. I'm in love with these guys. Sure, I know for 653 00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:37.719 the most part, everyone was in love with t mac. He's this tall 654 00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:43.719 guy, wide receiver making some tacular plays. The FIDA was the catalyst for 655 00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:46.440 how our season went last year, and now that they decided to come back 656 00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:52.239 against all odds, the city loves them for that. Right. Somebody called 657 00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:55.679 earlier this week, I don't remember who it was, maybe it was one 658 00:43:55.679 --> 00:44:01.199 of our guests, but said that Arizona Universe sh Arizona should trumpet these guys 659 00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:08.039 as Heisman potential winners or candidates because of what they've done for the program. 660 00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:13.079 And and they're that good. And then that's not to say they won't do 661 00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:16.039 that, but that's a good idea because of what they've done. Those two 662 00:44:16.119 --> 00:44:22.880 coming back helped others stay. They they're the foundation for what they've been calling 663 00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:30.360 the Brotherhood of Arizona Football, people like Takario, and I think even Speedy 664 00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:32.119 Luke, Speedy Luke has connection. You know, he goes from California. 665 00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:37.559 He laid under Sure. I'm looking forward to seeing him more too, because 666 00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:40.840 this year might be his breakout year, I think. And I saw a 667 00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:45.679 lot of tweets on ags or whatever you want to call them, that he 668 00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:52.079 looks bigger, yeah, more muscular right or toned in right. And and 669 00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:54.800 you all have an opportunity now with some of the other guys gone and I 670 00:44:54.840 --> 00:45:00.119 was kind of scared with the they were pursuing Amy and Martinez out of Oregon 671 00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:04.079 State, right I was. I thought he might have and they would have 672 00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:07.760 created a tension with that. But now that he's with Miami, I think 673 00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:14.719 speed Luke will pop pop off this year. Right, Well, we'll see. 674 00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:19.239 I thought Martinez had a chance to come here given the situation. But 675 00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:22.760 obviously if you get a gift. I hate to talk about d n L 676 00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:24.880 and in that way where you say, well he went over there just for 677 00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:29.400 the just for the money, there could have been a better opportunity. You 678 00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:34.000 know, what do you guys think their outlook is this year? Yeah? 679 00:45:34.039 --> 00:45:37.119 I think we talked about it. They have twelve games. If they go 680 00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:40.519 eight and three, that'll be good. That'll be good. Anything less than 681 00:45:40.519 --> 00:45:45.000 that might not be given what we what we've seen, right, I think 682 00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:49.280 the perfect situation, and Jay and I talk about this a lot. It's 683 00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:53.920 a perfect move to the Big twelve given given the quality of play. But 684 00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:59.719 it's not the Pac twelve where they have to go against Oregon, USC, 685 00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:02.960 Washington and those better schools, and they're never gonna be in the top three 686 00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:07.440 or four. I should say never. It'll be a rare thing here. 687 00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:09.000 They have a chance to finish in the top three, if not win it 688 00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:12.800 all, if things come together. Yeah, I mean, do you who 689 00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:15.760 do you think the biggest threat in the Big twelve is? I personally would 690 00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:19.320 say a team like Kansas State. Yeah, that would have been my first. 691 00:46:19.320 --> 00:46:22.320 Sure, very experienced team are, But then you also have a wild 692 00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:27.239 card like Iowa State. They go up and down with their season. You 693 00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:31.400 just never know what you're gonna get from them. Oklahoma State two every now 694 00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:37.599 and again. Not sure they weren't that good, but and have talent, 695 00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:39.440 and have talent, it's gonna be a lot of fun. I know a 696 00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:43.639 guy, a friend of mine, told me, I guess two nights schol 697 00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:46.679 or last night he did not renew his basketball tickets. I'm saying what he 698 00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:50.960 says. Yeah, I just don't feel it anymore. And I'm thinking this 699 00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:53.159 is the worst time to give up your tickets because you're gonna have the Big 700 00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:59.400 Twelve coming in here, Houston, Kansas, all these great schools, no 701 00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:02.079 better, no time, and in the last ten twelve years, if not 702 00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:07.679 longer, has everyone, I'm gonna have a better non conference or non conference 703 00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:12.800 and conference schedule because these guys are coming in and they're gonna have more losses, 704 00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:15.360 but there'll be more battle tests. I think. I think it's great 705 00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:19.519 for them if that's what it comes down to, have the losses. Yeah, 706 00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:22.280 and maybe you'll go deeper into the tournament. Absolutely, there's a trade 707 00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:24.559 If you're gonna take that trade off, you're gonna take that trade off. 708 00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:31.440 They weren't tested last year, so no, they were. They were in 709 00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:36.000 November and December, and guess what, they passed that test and then they 710 00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:39.159 stopped passing tests. Yeah, now they're too inconsistent. It's like, it's 711 00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:42.320 like you, guys, and I don't know if this analogy fits you. 712 00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:45.800 Guys, go to class, you're good in a course. You study for 713 00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:49.960 your courses against expecting a tough test, right, and it's all I got 714 00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:51.920 this stuff, and there's another test that you. I got to know this 715 00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:54.800 stuff. I don't have to study to stand the Stanfords, the Oregon States, 716 00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:59.440 those easy tests and you say, oh, crap, I didn't study 717 00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:02.320 enough, right, and then it beats you. Yeah, yeah, no, 718 00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:05.960 no, absolutely, And that's what happened to them. A few times, 719 00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:08.519 a few too many times played down to their opponent. Yeah, I 720 00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:13.920 mean what do you think. I think Arizona's always had the issue of playing 721 00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:16.360 Yeah, I think that might again that's gonna change in the big one. 722 00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:20.159 You've been here too long to know that. Yep, because that's what happens. 723 00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:22.800 People don't People don't believe me. I've covered this team for thirty some 724 00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:27.239 years, written some books. I firmly believe that it's more of a it's 725 00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:31.480 more of a swagger that they shouldn't have when they play those teams. They 726 00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:37.599 think that also comes with the program of Arizona basketball that've been so relevant. 727 00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:39.840 So what does it matter if they go loose to Oregon State or Stanford. 728 00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:44.079 Well, I don't know about that, but I like the swagger stuff or 729 00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:49.199 what did you say that they're Arizona and they have this this I think entitlement. 730 00:48:49.679 --> 00:48:52.480 Entitlement's the perfect word. And you go in go to Oregon maybe even 731 00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:57.239 here, Washington State here a couple of years ago, you're thinking, how 732 00:48:57.280 --> 00:49:00.079 in the world did this happen? And it's something that they need to get 733 00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:05.159 over. But the thing about it, it's not a one off, it's 734 00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:10.400 not a two off, it's a lot off. This is a programming team 735 00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:15.199 that really it'll change in the Big twelve, but they should have never lost 736 00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:21.079 at home Under Tim and Lloyd. There were two good teams. I think 737 00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:24.800 the one thing that Tommy the maybe I'll run into him. He even talked 738 00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:29.079 about this for his first year when Arizona fans were not showing up to home 739 00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:30.800 games, and he got on them and said, if you guys are going 740 00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:36.199 to consider are you guys going to consider yourself a basketball program, don't you 741 00:49:36.199 --> 00:49:38.239 think you should show up? You kind of had to get on them for 742 00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:42.400 doing that. Okay, they started showing up as well as a team. 743 00:49:42.599 --> 00:49:45.199 If you guys think you are good players and have a good program, don't 744 00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:50.280 you think you have to show up at the end of the day, you 745 00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:53.199 show up more than you show up. Because they're showing up just not to 746 00:49:53.239 --> 00:49:58.280 the ability that they could play. I think a little bit of that is 747 00:49:58.360 --> 00:50:04.079 due to timing and schedule. There's some late tip off times. But it's 748 00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:06.599 even hard to get score as a student. Well, the thing about it 749 00:50:06.679 --> 00:50:10.119 the other team, I had to do the same thing. So and what 750 00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:15.480 team if you're if you're did you play ball a little bit as a kid? 751 00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:17.480 Okay, if you and you're playing against your guy, that you know 752 00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:21.639 is better than you. What do you want to do? Kick the crap 753 00:50:21.639 --> 00:50:23.840 out of them? Because why no one thinks you can. That's what I 754 00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:27.320 had to do. I was put at the center position. I was in 755 00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:30.480 the you're undersized. I was in a big sense. So you had you 756 00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:35.440 have to play over your head, right, You're you're always the target when 757 00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:39.480 you're the big boy sometimes, and it makes no sense because if you look 758 00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:45.519 at Arizona's history of playing higher seeds or lower seeds whatever, and they're the 759 00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:50.480 better seed, what happens they don't play. It's not it's not a secret, 760 00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:55.920 it's a reality. It's true, unfortunate reality, but exactly. And 761 00:50:55.960 --> 00:51:00.079 you're thinking, well, and it's kind of being a dead horse, but 762 00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:02.920 I've seen it too many times in any Arizona fact say that, right, 763 00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:07.320 right, how come nobody else can? How come they can't? Yeah? 764 00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:12.199 Seeing no, no, Jay and I have this argument because he's kind of 765 00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:15.239 denial, but you're not in denial because you've seen it. And you're a 766 00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:20.679 young man over the last hold you twenty one? Yeah, and so you 767 00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:23.039 found out about Arizona sports as a ten year old, what pretty much? 768 00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:27.719 So in this eleven year span, you've seen it. Yeah, every year, 769 00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:30.679 every year, every year. I mean those back to back Wisconsin years 770 00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:35.440 those were but second area was just kind of like, well, yeah, 771 00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:38.840 here we go again. Well and in fact sometimes sometimes you do face a 772 00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:43.920 better team or just just as good team, and those two years that was 773 00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:51.280 that team. But any other the years Buffalo, which does exactly how do 774 00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:55.840 you explain that just not just it's just the part. It's also hard to 775 00:51:55.880 --> 00:52:00.880 win in the turn of course, of course, but there's a lot of 776 00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:02.559 samples. But if you have ten darts, don't you and you're a pretty 777 00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:07.159 good dart guy, don't you think you hit the center once or twice? 778 00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:10.119 Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, not if you're Arizona. Sorry to 779 00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:15.440 depress, any Arizona, Sorry to depress. You want just take a break 780 00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:15.440 and come back.