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We'll explore how the tight end position has changed over the last sixty years and what it takes to be the very best. Subscribe to te one from Blue Wire Student videos today so you're ready for the August premiere. Hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of Hardwood Knox. This is Adam Frommel here with my co host to Dan fa Valley, and today we're going to be going over some awards, both real and fake, for the NBA's Bubble experience in Florida. We'll be going over our first and second Team All Bubble, our typical awards, the Coach of the Bubble, the most improved Player the Bubble, the MVP of the Bubble, et cetera, and then some fun ones that we've generated to sort of spark a little conversation here. But before we get into that, a couple of shout outs. First to our sponsors, NFL Sunday Ticket Deal, Dash and bet Online dot Ag, without whom this podcast would not be possible. Second to anyone who has subscribed, rated and reviewed, etc. Anything that you have done to help out this podcast. It is very much much appreciated. If you haven't yet, please do that on whatever provider you are getting your podcasts from. And third to Dan, who's about to tell us how he's doing today. That was a hell of an intro. Nice ins is sinct under a minute. I'm getting better. I'm getting better. Yeah, you're like you're like back in the group or something. Yeah, I'm doing swell over here. I'm already talking about some Bubble Awards. It's just funny that you use the word typical, because nothing about this is actually typical. I'm just trying to pretend. How are you doing, though, I'm doing pretty well. I'm we're recording this just before the two PM or two pm mount of time four p is it two pm mount of time or yeah, four pm Eastern time PM Eastern. I don't I don't understand time zones anymore. Time is irrelevant in twenty twenty. But yeah, we're recording this right before the big slate of Thursday games kicks off and we get to figure out finally who is going to claim those number eight and nine seeds in the Western Conference. And I'm just excited to watch those games. Yeah, I'm like a little bit annoyed that the Grizzlies and the Suns are playing at the same time, but I'll deal with it. Yeah, at least we do have like there will be drama in the Portland Brooklyn game at nine pm Easter Yes, correct, And so we are picking these awards before those games happen. If there are any situations where someone could do something to really change one of our picks, we'll obviously note that. But I don't think just because they're only a handful of teams actually playing for something in the games today that I can't envision these squads changing all that much. It feels safe. And you know, just because Dan does ten billion things every day and I'm trying to watch a toddler while working, like we have to do it at a certain time. The timeline on this whole thing is weird because we just don't have a break to record the awards podcast. We don't have a break to do a playoff preview podcast. So it's like trying to squeeze everything in. It's wild, But I'm excited to do these awards. Do you want to? You can you guide us through them? I can. So we're going to start off with the first team All Bubble, which you know, Dan and I generated these separately and somehow managed to come up with the exact same five names, and that somehow is probably because almost everyone is going to have the same five names, and those those are Damian Lillard, Devin Booker, James Harden, and T J. Warren, which feel like the absolute locks. And then we both had Kawhi Leonard in our fifth spot. And we should be clear that much like the all rookie teams, we are just not paying attention positions with these exactly as always as always, but in this case in particular, yeah, I have I don't know how you could build the team another way. I guess if you wanted to put I'm trying to think of who would have a case for first team. I mean I did consider him, really, but then yeah, I spend fantastic. Still, he did get suspended, and that was like the basically the reason that I nudged him down below onto my second team. But he's been incredible in such limited minutes. It's it's a continuation of this MVP regular season, and I feel like somehow he's not getting enough credit. He probably isn't, but I do think that volume kind of matters in the bubble, and because we're talking about such a small sample size, and so you know, if he's gonna play sub twenty six minutes per game and then miss two BU games, I can't I couldn't do it. I didn't even put him on my second team. Spoiler alert. Yeah, it's fair. I mean, he's still averaging twenty seven point eight points, twelve point two rebounds, four point two assists, one point three blocks, he's shooting sixty two point six percent from the field, he's playing phenomenal defense, he's doing everything. But yeah, yeah, I mean, and that's the issue is that he's been so good for the last two years that I think it is easy to overlook the continued excellence. And it's like, that's like one of the only reasons I have Kawai in here too, is he's played more minutes and then he's just decided like, oh yeah, you know, like I'll hit my pull up three pointers now after struggling when it was the last time availability was cited as a positive reason for Kawhi Leonard. Yeah, not didn't play in every Bubble game, but he's almost at twenty nine minutes per game. So that little, that little coupled with him shooting almost forty nine percent from deep, really it did it for me. I mean, look, he couldn't stop Devin Booker on that game winner, So that's a fair I say, said James Harn's also just been ridiculous. He's only played in five Bubble games at thirty three point four points, slashing fifty two thirty three ninety basically, and his workload is going to get incredibly or is going to remain incredibly heavy, because Russell Westbrook is going to miss the beginning of the first round series with the Oklahoma City Thunder due to a quad strain, and that's going to be something to monitor that will obviously talk about when we're previewing playoff matchups. But he's just been quietly great. And he dropped like a basically a forty point forty five point triple double the other day and nobody cared like because the games didn't really matter. But it's just like we're so numb to what he's doing too. Yeah, I don't. I don't think we need to talk about Lillard and Booker quite yet because we will be getting to those two in a little bit down the road with a different award. So should we move on to the second team? Yeah? Who did you have on yours? So this is where it varies. And I actually just made a last minute change because I can't believe that I forgot how ridiculous Luca Donchech has been but I wanted to give him some credit for averaging a triple double with thirty two points, eleven point three assists, eleven rebounds per game. The clutch offense has continued to not be great in Dallas, but he's been so excellent as an individual, as has Christops Porzingis, who I had joining him on the second team, along with Brook Lopez, Paul George, who has been absolutely locked in. It seems like he's returned to that thunder level that he reached, and then Jannis, so mine was similar and I actually kind of after we talked about him, regret a little bit not putting Yannis on here, but I didn't put Luca on here either, so at least I'm remaining in consistent there. My second team was Derek White, who's just been absolutely absurd, and I think some of the defensive workload that he's carried can help carry him over someone like Luca, who looked at crunch time issues. They're still there in Dallas, and we gotta do something about Luca's crunch time free throw percentage sixty four point five percent on the season, sixty two point five percent in the bubble, A small sample size, but that's just weird. Under seventeen percent from three in crunch time, so still amazing. Like you said, average a triple double affair. But I'm nitpicking when it comes to the mega stars. It's basically what I'm doing here. But Derek Jason Tatum, Michael Porter Jr. Brook Lopez, who you know you already put him on yours, just decided how I'm going to hit my threes. Two was one of the worst wide open three point shooters in the league this year by volume, he was probably the absolute worst when looking at his efficiency, and then he's shooting like ninety percent from three in the bubble. It's a slight exaggeration, but it's up there. And then I put Nakula Yoki, who he's been just an absolute monster eriching over nine assists per game, just throwing ridiculous passes, and they're not like these cheap passes like James Harden throws, you know, like they're actual, real pass had. I had trouble with Yokich. I wanted to find a spot for him, but I ultimately didn't feel too compelled to do so, just because the Nuggets haven't been playing to win every game, so he's been on the bench at the closing moments of contests. He hasn't played as much as you would expect him, and he kind of failed to stand out as much as you might normally expect him to because of that, and just because there are so many great candidates for these spots. Yeah, look, and if we're being honest, what we probably could have done with the exception of Dame, Devin Booker, and Kawhi Leonard just because they've played well, No, you could with the exception of Dame and Devin Booker and James Harden because they've played so many minutes. We could have just said, look, superstars are playing limited minutes and resting games. No Kauai, no Luca, no Jannis, Like, let's flesh out the teams from there. Maybe that would have been a more consistent way to do it. But that's what makes this interesting is because you can put people on here that normally wouldn't have a chance at making it. So I just took that opportunity. But Yo could still impress me. Just I can't get over his passing. And I hope everyone caught the sarcasm and what I just said relative to James Harden's passing. If you did not, just google Bill Simmons and your figure it out. Bill Simmons, James Harden, Luca Dodge. You'll figure it out. So, speaking of guys who might not normally get credit, we do have the out of nowhere team, and I'll let you lead that one off. We actually only have two players in common on these. We're about to have another one because I decided to make the swap just because one of the players as I picked originally, Javon Carter. He's not really doing anything that he didn't do during the regular season. His three point clip is entirely unsustainable, but he was shooting okay from three and then trying to defend his ass off all year. It's just it's been more effective, So shout out to him. But I picked Timothy leil Cabro, Cameron Payne, Gary Trent Junior, Kelton Johnson and ball Ball the two that have probably surprised me the most. You could probably make a case that Garret Trent Junior doesn't even belong on this team, but he's just done more stuff off the dribble for Portland and he's averaging seventeen points per game like that's just that's just absolutely bonkers to me. But TLC has surprised me. He I don't think he's missed a corner three in the bubble, And again that's obviously an exaggeration. I'm not sure that one is an exaggeration. That's also fair. But they might actually have like this longer term piece there. It's tough to gauge because you have Kyrie and KD and you don't know they're probably gonna look to maybe trade for another star of the off season, or you're gonna be in like win now, let's acquire veteran mode and tilS he doesn't necessarily fit that. But in the bubble, seven games, fourteen point one points, slashing, fifty forty three ninety, fifty forty three, ninety and just again I can't get over the three point shooting. He's done some of it off the dribble too. He's had some attacking when he puts the ball on the floor. You'd probably want him to be a better passer if you're gonna have the ball in his hands that much. But he's just been super fun to watch. And then the other one that came out of nowhere for me at least was Calton Johnson. Did not realize, I know that was his reputation in college. Did not realize he was so sound defensively, like they're putting this guy on fours and it's just working out and he just doesn't miss wide open threes that he generates, and so that's been absolutely huge for San Antonio. It has. I had two differences here. I wanted to give I really wanted to give credit to Gary Trent Junior, and I did, as you'll see in a later award, But I felt like he had done enough before the bubble that it wasn't like totally out of nowhere, unlike what we've seen with both Darius Baisley and Grayson Allen. So basically for the Thunder, he's had three twenty point games this year. They came on August ninth, August tenth, and August twelfth. The role that he's taken on as this off ball shooters, there have been flashes of it throughout the season, but it's all coalesced in the bubble and he's become like a legitimately valuable weapon for the Thunder and yet another reason why they're going to be a dangerous team regardless of who they're playing in the first and second round of the playoffs. Grayson Allen has kind of been a punchline for a while, dating back to his duke days when he was tripping everyone left and right. But he has suddenly caught fire. He looks like a confident shooter. He's showing some shake off the dribble, he's showing some defensive chops, he's he's been a legitimately positive presence for a Memphis team that has had few of those. To be honest, during the bubble experience, yeah, he shot the three ball well like all year, but what he's doing in the bubble like now, he's become essential too because no Jaren Jackson junior, they had to have him in closing line up even before then, So I'm with you there. And Bobo obviously quite literally came out of nowhere because he didn't play during the regular season, had the left foot injury while he was a freshman in college last year. So yes, he definitely came out of nowhere. But the minutes have been you know, he's played over fifteen minutes twice and look, they just he showed flash as a passing being able to put the ball on the floor of shooting, and he's very intriguing. And I will say, when I was power ranking Team Future for the next three years, wildly underrated the Nuggets. I think I had them at six or seven. When we do our own, provided we don't know how much, how long the distance we're gonna look, I w gonna have to put them much higher just off of both what he and Michael Porter Jr. Have shown, and we did recently hear from t J McBride, a Nuggets insider who is a friend of the podcast, that he does expect Bobo to actually get some playoff minutes, which I think is justification enough for the out of nowhere status given that he has played so well in this limited action during the bubble, that he might actually be a part of the Denver playoff rotation to some extent, even if it's minimal. I wonder if if those minutes are gonna come alongside Yo Kids or Mason Plumbley though, because I want the super big lineup. I want the super big lineup that would be I want all three with Jeremy Grant. That would have to be a troll at the end of a game that they're winning. I feel like Mike Malone would do that too. But also, look, there doesn't seem like they're gonna have Gary Harris or Will Barton to start the playoffs unless something changes, So maybe maybe they have to go big, like they just don't have a choice now. Even with Michael Porter Jr. You've heard the phrase go big or go home. They don't want to go home in the playoffs. Sunday Sunday Sundays are coming back in the NFL. With NFL Sunday Ticket dot tv, you can stream every live out of market NFL game every Sunday afternoon on your favorite devices, plus with Red Zone and Direct TV Fantasy Zone channels. Never miss your favorite teams and favorite players. If you're like me, you can also actively avoid your favorite teams and favorite players if they happen to be the Jacksonville Jaguars. No matter where you live, NFL Sunday Ticket dot tv is your key to the most glorious Sunday's effort. Use the promo clode blue Wire at checkout to get fifteen percent off your subscription, and visit NFL Sunday Ticket dot tv and use promo code blue Wire that what's up next. We're getting to the regular awards now, right, like the individual ones, which one do you want to hit first? We're going to start with the coach of the Bubble, And for me, there there were really only two choices here, Monty Williams from the Phoenix Suns and Greg Popovich from the San Antonio Stors. I guess you could make a case for Jack Van with the Brooklyn Nets as well, but they've felt more like a product of teams not taking them quite as seriously. I went with Popovich just because as impressive as what the undefeated Suns have done is, they they had more continuity moving into the bubble experience. They they'd achieved some level of success when DeAndre Aden was available, and the Spurs are are having to overcome the Apps, and so of LaMarcus Aldrich, who has missed the entire Bubble with shoulder surgery and will not play for the remainder of the season, however long that lasts for San Antonio. So just overcoming that level of adversity and getting such incredible contributions out of Kelton Johnson, out of Derek White, out of DeMar de Rosen, out of everyone on that roster except for probably Yaka Peartle that that was enough to give him the slight edge here for me. Yeah, the willingness too, I guess. I guess his hand was also kind of forced. But like we've seen, you know, Derek White and not they marry log some more time together and so that certainly is going to help his case. And then, like like you said, the willingness though, to just go to the younger kids or younger players at all drew you Banks too getting minutes mostly because he has to, but you're sticking with him for stretches. I went with Manti Williams though the Sons had like a one percent chance of making the play into him and entering the bubble. And to keep your players motivated and engaged when you're up against those type of odds, that's hard. It's hard to do in general. But the fact that the Suns are here, I'm not going to give him all the credit. Devin Booker has been incredible, Ricky Rubio shooting out of his mind, DeAndre Ayton's been really good on defense. But the fact that the Sun's just kept competing and are in the position that they're in as we record this where some people you already picked them to make the playing tournament. That's just absolutely fantastic. And so I didn't really consider Greg Popovitch as much as you did. I think he's a worthwhile choice. And again you can go with Jacquevaughan as well. But Monty Williams looked through seven games just undefeated, and there's a chance feing this goes undefeated in the Bubble potentially a strong chance. I think when you look at you know who's going to actually play in the game. Who are they playing? Again? Are they against Utah today? They're playing Dallas. They're playing Dallas. Dallas has no reason to compete in that game. So there's a strong chance they go undefeated, even if they don't to be in this position at all, given where they were at the start. Like, that's pretty incredible, it is. Yeah. I think the last point on Popovitch is that he legitimately admitted going into the Bubble experience that their purpose here was purely developmental, that he didn't expect to make the playoffs, that he didn't expect to win many games, that he was just trying to develop these young pieces. And he's done it so well that it's like the goals have changed, and even just the way he's using Dario Sarch too, it's like, you know, maybe he won't become Maybe this isn't a role that Dario Sarch is comfortable with long term. But you leaned all the way into bringing him off the bench and playing him a little bit at the five, and he's played really well, particularly on offense. So I so much creditic was him. Sorry to interject there, but like it was just little nuts and bolts things like that, you know, deciding to really lean into that with Dario Sarch, I think ends up helping Phoenix a ton because now Sarich, who has been turned into the spot up player ever since the Sixers got so deeper and the expectations became more immediate, and now he's able to kind of put the ball on the floor more and control more of the offensive outcome himself, and that's looked good on both him and Phoenix, who's been really desperate for that type of shot creation off the bench all year. Ultimately, I don't think that there's a wrong chance between these two, which might be the first time in a long time that anyone has put the suns and the Spurs on the same pedestal. That is kind of typical though, of any coach of the whatever talk. Whenever it's Coach of the Year, I always feel like there's at least like three to five candidates that you could pick and it's not ridiculous. Yeah, it's probably too, just because that that award in particular seems to depend on expectations, not just performance. With MVP, it's just whoever performed the best, if someone surprised and performed the best, verse performed the best according to expectations, Like maybe there's a slight difference there, but not to the same extent that you know, if the favorite entering the season, you know, the Milwaukee Bucks, right, if they win sixty games po hum. If if the Suns win sixty games going into the season with with lottery expectations, then they're going to be a lock for that kind of forward, right. So most improved player we were we were in agreement on this one. That's always fine, although that means there's nothing to debate. It has to be Derek White, right, who else? Yeah, I guess you could, like you could give credit to like Michael Porter Junior or any of our out of nowhere, guys, I guess, but yeah, I mean Derek White has has made the like star ascension. Well that so this this will serve as a make culpa because I decided, after picking Luca don Chich for the Most Approved Player Award, I realized that after not picking Daron Fox last year like I wanted to because he was a sophomore, I have to go with Brandon Ingram for that awards. I'm doing the same thing here where you know, I probably could have considered Gary Trent junior two, but only in his second season, and so you default two year three Derek White. What's been most impressive about him is just all of a sudden, he's like, all right, yeah, I'll shoot a ton of threes. That's fine. Before the bubble, he's taking three point nine three point attempts per thirty six minutes. In the bubble, that number is up to nine point seven three point attempts for thirty six minutes, on which he's shooting thirty nine point three percent. And so he look, he's averaging almost twenty three points per thirty six minutes as well, to go with six assists, and he's getting to the free line more often than I expected to. We talked about this in What's it the playoff series against the Nuggets last year, where it's like, oh, dark white, my papers or breakout. But I think lineup politics sort of got the best of him this season. But now he's going to be really pitotable. If the Spurs want to make whatever transition they're making, if they want to make it smooth and quickly, he's just going to be huge. Because I think you can make the case pretty easily that he's their most important non like market like, non Aldridge Derosian game like, because he's like a veteran basically at this point. But let's just say like prospect. I wouldn't consider him a prospect anymore, but I think even more show more so than Murray, he's their most important prospect right now. Look, if if you are a slot receiver in the NFL, you should want to go play for the New England Patriots because you're going to improve. If you're a pitcher in the MLB, you should want to go pitch for Cleveland because they're going to make the best of the situation. If you are a basketball player, regardless of position, you should want to go play for the Spurs because Popovich is going to make you succeed on some level. And I think that's part of what we're seeing here, is like just the organization and the coaching just all coming together, plus the opportunity and just the product is incredible. And I don't think any of us saw like this level of performance coming. And yet it also seems entirely reasonable and unsurprising because it's the Spurs, right, and you can probably for the Raptors on that level. At this point, we just trust that that team is going to get the best out of you. Yeah, we're definitely getting there for them. That brings us to Defensive Player of the Bubble, it does. We did differ here. I went with Mark Gasol. The Toronto Raptors defense has been unbelievable. They're allowing one hundred and one point eight points per a hundred possessions in the Bubble. The second best is the Thunder at one oh seven point one, then third is the Sun's at one o seven point five. And Gasol has kind of spearheaded all of that. He's been everywhere. He He's defended the interior well, he's shown increased mobility on the perimeter, maybe due in part to that weight loss that we've talked about in the past. It's just it's been fantastic. It looks like he's in the middle of of his athletic prime, and it's yet another reason that the Raptors are going to be an awfully tough out in the Eastern Conference. That's like just another testament to how good they are because he was just injured for such a huge chunk of the season and that they have that caliber of a player on the bench for so long can then just come out in the bubble and be one of the defensive keystones of the league. I had Michael Bridges finally starting in Phoenix. When you look at the type of assignments he's had to cover all bubble, you really have to give it up to him. And he's always just been super active. His arms go on forever, his clothes outs are like teleportation. Good luck screening him or just getting by him. Just hustles so much on that end, and I almost feel like it's infectious. I used cleaning the glass to look at the how much the Suns were allowing prone hundred possessions and their seventh outside of garbage time, they have the sixth best opponent effective field goal percentage. They've probably got a little bit lucky with the way their opponents are shooting threes. But also when you look at the way that Mikhael Bridges is sort of forcing the ball out of guy's hands or contesting shots, maybe that's actually not so lucky. And so I went with him, and I don't I wouldn't say that this is consensus, because, like you said, Gasaul would be a worthy pick there as well, but he's just been He's basically doing like an extended amount of what he's always done. It's just so's it's more and it's more consistent as well. And if you're a Sons fan, that has to get you excited because you have eighton, you have Booker, you know what Ricky Rubio is. That kind of makes Bridges like your largest swing piece. If he becomes like a like an all defense guy who can hit threes and put the ball on the floor, that doesn't make him an All Star, but that definitely changes the trajectory of your future. And that's kind of what we expected when it was coming out of Villanova too. I think I don't remember were you as high on him as I was, I was fine. I think I might have compared him to Chris Middleton when he was coming out, which probably ended up being pretty high on him. Yeah, but I didn't watch enough of him in college to know that he could do these playmaking off the dribble. It's been an underrated gem until now, where I feel like now it's just not a secret anymore. Hardwoo knocks listeners. Have you ever heard of deal dash dot com. It's the best, most honest bidding site where you can win things you'd never expect at a price you'd never believe. They have over one thousand auctions every day on electronics, appliances, beauty products, home decore, and even cars. Here's how it works. 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But he's been phenomenal seventeen points per game, shooting fifty two point six percent from both the field and three point range, which is largely because almost all of his shots are coming from three point range, and even if that number is due to aggress at some point, because no one is ever going to shoot over fifty percent from three at a high volume, it feels legitimate. It feels like this isn't just like some flash in the pan performance. He looks so much more confident both in spot up situations and off the dribble. He seems to understand like the best positioning in the half court set where to go in transition, he's making more contributions on defense. It really feels like the Blazers have found this key piece who might get more of a window to the Lillard McCallum combination. You wish he was just like a little bit bigger so that he could do a better job to defending wings. But he's so good that you know you can't be nitpicky. It's funny that he might be more important in their future now than Anthony Simons, who I think Blazers would have laeled as untouchable leading into the offseason. I'm with you, and I almost wanted to change my pick, but Jeremy Grant kind of swayed me here. His past few games, his offense, I think it's probably the best offensive stretch of his career. Like it's phenomenal last night too. I really just don't think that's a stretch his last you know, you remove his first game in the bubble and just go to his last five games. He's averaging twenty two points, six points per thirty six minutes, slashing sixty one forty one and then seventy nine from the foul line. They've when they've run those like junkie lineups. They've put the ball in his hands a little bit more, and he's like actually thrown some pretty cool passes. And then I don't think you want him. I'd be intrigued if they had more defensive wing talent of putting him at the five, back up five minutes when Yokich isn't on the floor, and maybe you could still get away if you wanted to go Millsap and Jeremy Grant in the playoffs. But you probably don't want him as a back line defender. But he can really just muck up stuff on the perimeter, and he's had some tough assignments, particularly when you look at Gary Harris not being readily available for the Nuggets. So he really impressed me, and I kind of felt more comfortable going with him because you picked Gary Trent, so it felt like a license to diverge. But Gary tren J and your Pride would come close to the consensus pick just based on he's been molten and just such a smart offensive player. Look, it's funny that you say that you want to see Jeremy Grant at the five, because I want to see him at the two. I want to see him in that lineup with with Mason Plumley ball ball and Nicole yok who's the only one. So Yokich is the point guard in that scenario, which means you need like another we just throw Michael Porter Junior in that lineup too. Absolutely, Okay, that's the big lineup. That's the one we're gonna be tracking for the postseason. It's gonna happen. They're gonna they're gonna outscore everyone like one hundred points per minute. Speaking of the Nuggets, who's your rob the rookie of the bubble is very obviously Michael Porter Jr. I think going in it seemed like it was probably going to be John Morant or Zion Williamson as they were competing for those final spots in the Western Conference. But both both have been disappointing. You know, Zion had to play limited minutes at first, he was entirely apathetic on defense. Morant has struggled to maintain the same shooting percentages as his teammates have struggled around him, as Jaren Jackson Junior hasn't been available, and Porter has just absolutely exploded. I'm not sure you really have to justify how good he's been because it's been so obvious to everyone watching. I mean, you had him on your second team all bubble, right, and I think even more of his offense is coming within the flow of things. He's shooting forty two percent on catch and shoot threes. He's just been as like he's a very good cutter. He's actually made some good defensive plays in the bubble. I'm curious to see how many minutes he actually does get in the play else because you don't, you're again play not gonna Barton and Harris to start. I think Mike Malan said he's going to be starting at this point, and I'm just curious to see how his shot making translates. I do think there's room for him to actually do more with the ball in his hands right now, pull up jumpers in the bubble or no, excuse me, yes, it really is only in the bubble. They've accounted for about twenty two percent of his of his looks, and his effective field goal percentage is a blah blah fifty two point four percent. But I actually think that there's he's hitting forty three percent of his pull up threes, taking about two per game in the bubble like this might be someone another bailout option late in the shot hawk and I think Nicole Yokich as well. He's not a traditional crunch time option. He's just shown he can be. He's been so good at crunch time, not only this season, but his t J McBride pointed out last last season as well. He's been able to put the ball on the floor from face up positions. He's not going to be as quick as a Jamal Murray, but now you also have Jamal Murray and a Michael Porter junior, and so they just have a lot of late shot clock, late game options now. I think sometimes it's easy to forget that Michael Porter Jr. Was almost a consensus number one pick candidate before he started his collegiate career and had the back injuries at Missouri and played such limited minutes, Like this is this level of talent should not be surprising. No, it shouldn't. And I'm almost a little bit shocked though, because it feels like it's come together like more quickly than I would have expected. But this certainly is his ceiling. Like it's not to say that, oh, if this was the apex of Michael Porter Jr. Or the arc, if you want to call it. That's not shocking. I think it's more so the team that he's on because the Nuggets are so good and now they have this type of swing piece or their future, this type of X factor, And I'm interested to see how they handle this moving forward. They seem like a team that they're going to keep him, try and develop him and make him that third star. And it's also going to become harder for them to make any impact trades because I don't know that any team's gonna want to trade them a marquee player without getting MPJ back in return now, and so look, that's a good problem to have, but it also is some thing that they're gonna have to think about. It doesn't really have anything to do with the bubble, just that Michael Porter Jr's played himself to that kind of outlook. Yeah, I mean, and he really should be untouchable for that team. I can't imagine who they would move him for at this point, especially now that they're trusting him with these crunch time possessions. It would have to be like someone couldn't even think becoming available, Like if what if the Rock has decided to trade James Harden over the offseason, right, it would have to be that type of scenario, And they're probably Nuggas fans that would push back against that because why are you going to take the ball out of Yoka's hands? It would be an interesting conundrum for sure, But that feels like a little bit extreme of hypothetical here, MVP of the Bubble, MVP. It's a two man conversation, right, It's between Devin Booker and Damian Lillard. I put Devin Booker at first because I was like caught up in the in the sun's just moment. But it has to be Damian Lillard drop dropped eighty zillion points on the Mavericks the other night, But like, could we I don't know. It depends on how much you want to wait in tangibles and basketball, Like I do believe they're a thing. Just don't piss off Damian Lillard. Like if you're in a point, like what are Paul George and Patrick Beverley doing? Now? Like it hasn't come at their expense necessarily, but like what are like, don't poke the bear. He's averaging thirty seven points per game in the bubble while slashing forty nine, forty one eighty nine, and he's taking twelve point four three point attempts per game. I would hazard close to half those are from like twenty nine feet and out. And to see like the Mavericks the other night continue to play drop coverage against him was just funny because on July fifteenth, nineteen ninety, Damian Lillard was born in scoring range. Like he just came out. He came out of the womb and he was in scoring range. So I don't know how certain defenses are still not just going to trap him and then you have to figure out the rest after that. He's been absolutely spectacular, and that's not to say Devin Booker has it, but when I was looking at the numbers, this is more of a compliment to Devin Booker. What he's doing now is not that drastic different from what he's doing in the regular season. The difference is more people are paying attention and he's definitely trying harder on defense off the ball, and that's always been the thing with him. It's like if he was on a good team, maybe he wouldn't be an atrocious defender. And I think he's kind of proven that. Now, if you want to vote for him because you want to go best player on the best team in the bubble, perfectly fine. But Damian Lillard has been a cheat codes cheat code. Yeah, he's just absolutely ridiculous. I don't I don't have much to add on his numbers or performance in the bubble. I do have a kind of different question related to the LERC for you. I pose this to a group of friends in a fantasy league, and I was surprised that I got some pushback. But is Lillard the most fun to watch on fire player in the NBA? I think he is. The pushback came largely on the form of Clay Thompson. I see, I might have said it should have came in the form of Steph Klay Thompson had, Yeah, can you go wrong with one of those choices? It would have to be, really, it would have to be between those three and maybe if he wanted to throw James Harden in there, because he's just had some ridiculous stretches where I feel like his his on fireness includes more absurd passing than it would for definitely play in Dame and maybe even for Steph. If you want to pick one of those four, I'd be okay with it. I think I would still go as Steph. And maybe he just hasn't played in so long that that we've forgotten. I did see on Twitter the other night after Dame destroyed the Mavericks that even though the players barely wont I say he destroyed them, they barely won, I mean he destroyed them. The rest of the team did not turn off Steph and Curry. Stand fans on Twitter were like coming out like offended because people were talking about Lillard. We could appreciate the moment and still just acknowledge, like, yes, STEP's really good, he's the better player overall than me still, but he's not here. He barely played this season. Maybe Lillard's been out of his mind. There's certainly a case, because there's just a case, because it feels it's like the level of swagger that comes with the performances too. I just I feel like Steph has so much fun and you know, he'll do his chimmies and turn around while the balls in the air. But it's like it's different with Dame. It's just it's like he takes everything personally, but in a good way. And then he just wants to just like rip the opponent's heart out with these DP threes. And I think just like the ability to create off the dribble pushes him ahead of Clay, the ability to create without fifty million dribbles pushes him ahead of Harden, and then just the personality with which he plays when he's on fire pushes him ahead of Steff. For me, I think that's fair. There's the the difference between him and Steff might be Steps is like a huggable Bravado when he's on fire, or just his default setting. And I think that also turns some people off because they think he's cocky, wears dame because he wants to rip the opponent's heart out. It's just easier to like that version of him, and that's totally that's totally fine, So I you can't go wrong with that decision. But I think I think I would still roll Steph the fact that it's been so long since we've seen that volcanic version of him, though maybe maybe Lillards edged him out. All I can say is that if he's in the playoffs, there's just gonna be a game against the Lakers. They'll lose him five, whatever it'll be, but there's gonna be a game because they're not the best eight seed in NBA history. I don't even remember who said that at this point, but that's absolutely not a fact. I want to make that clear. I hope he has a game where he goes for like sixty five, because like, those moments are just so fun to watch, and you know why they might sorry, you know why, they might also be better than steps I would still pick step Is. There's this feeling that the Blazers actually need those points more than the Warriors would from Steph because they have Clay. They just had KD. I think we've shown that Dre is gonna need stars around him, but guess what, next year, he's gonna have stars around him. So I would get that from that perspective as well. That's a good point. So let's call that our unofficial, unofficial Most Flammable Player of the Bubble Award and continue to roll through our made up ones, starting with most Surprising Team. I had the Sons just again. They went undefeated here and no one. No one expected that, even though they played the G League version of the Sixers and the Thunder and then the Heat didn't have Butler or Dragitch, I believe when they played them, but still less than one percent chance of making the play at ornament whatever it was, and you still go almost undefeated, if not undefeated, and you're getting like all these like potential long term bright spots. It's like, oh, Cameron Johnson is one of the quickest decision makers on the team, So it has to be them. For me, it does it does have to be the Sons, and they are the objectively correct answer here. So I'm just going to be contrarian just to give some love to the Brooklyn Nets here because they deserve it. They've gone five and two. They have a positive net rating with DeAndre Jordan, Spencer, Danuitty, Torrian Prince, Wilson Chandler, Kevin Durant, and Kyrie Irving all out from their typical rotation, plus signing Jamal Crawford who only played in one game before hurting his hamstring, and signing Michael Beasley, who then tested positive for coronavirus and opted out. They have a zombie roster and they're still competitive because they've gotten so many positive contributions from these unheralded players like Timothy Luiocaberreau and Kris Lavert has been incredible. What they've done is entirely unexpected, just because they were supposed to be this absolute doormat who we're gonna like fall back from the seventh seed and you know, have no business even competing. Yeah, I carros Lavert is absolutely gonna drop fifty in a game against the Raptors. They're not gonna win that series. Joe who almost made my second team, Joe Harris averaging over twenty points per game, shooting fifty seven point six percent from He's gonna get paid, right, He's shooting two of six from the foulon. He doesn't get there often, but that's just weird, Like that's just a weird number for the bubble. He's had to guard and he's always had to do this defensive assignments that he shouldn't have to, and he's just he's a little bit better than you expect. And I think what people are understanding, it's been like this for basically two seasons now. But he can make more decisions with putting the ball on the floor. Then people realize and this is like a tangent, but you brought it up. I'm very curiously what he gets in free agent, because there are five or six teams that could have cap space. I don't know the number of them that are actually gonna want to use that cap space, particularly with the uncertain future of are they going to be fans in the stands next season? What's gonna happen with that revenue? What's the cap look like? Do like he has to get more than the mid level though, right, Like, you're not going to get him through the ten million dollars per year. The Nets better be the ones to give it to him, because he's like a perfect fit alongside Kyrie k d And if you're going to keep Carroslvert, obviously I hope that he does stay there because that team would be a lot of fun together. Yeah, but whoever ends up getting him if it's probably one because they overpaid him, so that's fine, but he actually will be. His next contract might not look great, but he is he's an impact player and he almost made my second team, so he is not on the most disappointing team. But that is our next award and really a degree. It's called it the crap sticker. What is the I'm still gonna call it an award so that the Pelicans have something to celebrate, I guess for their bubble play. But yeah, I mean, come on, like, it's pretty obviously the New Orleans Pelicans here where it's the NBA basically like set up this format to try to get Zion Williamson into the playoffs. They didn't work. They didn't work at all. They were a taxic and lethargic. It was just not even fun to watch. And I'm willing to overlook the Zion Williamson stuff just because he's barely played this year and as we mentioned in the last podcast, I won't go through it. This has been like a tale of four or six seasons for him, just based on the stopping and starting. Even had to leave the bubble before he came back to it. But just in the elimination game or their unofficial elimination game against the Spurs, they just didn't look like they wanted to be there. It was just so bizarre, and Lonzo Ball was writing such a high coming into the bubble, then just absolutely terrible. Drew Holliday and brand Ingram didn't look like they were willing an attack mode for that last game, and then Brandon Ingram kind of looked like he wasn't really an attack mode following that game they played against the Jazz. So there are just so many weird questions now about their future, which we'll get into actually in a second. A disaster for them in the bubble because, like you said, this was basically set up to get them in there, or they at least looked like they were positioned to get in there, right down to the lineups that they were running out, which does fall on Alvin Gentry obviously. Just a lot of just what they were doing just made zero sense, from the energy to the actual functionality of them, just nothing aligned. They went from being one of the most fun teams to watch in the regular season to like, oh, we have to watch the Pelicans attempt to play basketball again. Very likely. You're like holding out hope that it would change, but it became cleat like after two or three games that that wasn't going to happen, right, Yeah, just disappointed, But we are going to give them a second consecutive award because our next one is to learn how to Fish Award, which is going to go to the player who has made the playoffs every year until this one and it's it's jj Reddick. He has been in the NBA for teen seasons now and this is the first time that he will not be participating in the postseason. So just to shout out to JJ Reddick, I hope you catch them good fish. Yeah. Look, when you first wrote down this award, by the way, I thought you actually meant fishing because players were fishing in the bubbles. I was like, well, Ben Simmons is the obvious answer here, but yeah, JJ Reddick missing. Do you remember what he told Zion Williamson about his playoff streak at the beginning of absolutely don't find it up up Yeah, and whoops, it wasn't Zion's fault. But that's like, you know, jj jj Reddick belongs in the playoffs too. That's still just why the Sixers let him go. That's just that's an entire different mess. Yeah, they're the other candidate for this award too. I think we thought about it, but weren't confident because of when we're recording this. But it could be the Spurs because twenty two straight playoff appearances could be coming to an end and no one in that organization has has had to fish during the first round. For a long time. But here's the thing that so many of the players just don't have ties to that street, really standing ties. It would have to be Greg Popovitch, and I'm not picking Greg Popovitch without actually seeing the Spurs lose or miss the playoffs, which they probably will miss the playoffs. Still, we know JJ reddicks missing the playoffs asn't right now, yea. Our next award is the foul Concern Award, given to the team or player who is engendering some sort of non belief but it's not deserved. Let's just let me go first because we have to complete the Pelicans trifecta. It's the Pelicans now, because as soon as they were eliminated from the playoffs, it went to you know, Zion out of shape, Like do they have to worry about his conditioning? That's I still think that's an exaggeration. Like the dude played a fewer than thirty games this year, Like, let's give him a chance. And he actually when you listen to him, like you get this, he just talks older than he is, and so I feel like he's going to be fine. The questions that they have to ask, some of them are easier than others. Do we match out brandon Ingram? You absolutely do, because if you weren't going to keep him, you should have traded him at the deadline. What do you do with Lonzo Ball? He's extension knowledgeable, but this team its like it has so many mouths to feed on offense. I would personally shop him. Drew Holliday extension eligeable player option for twenty twenty one. I don't think he looks out of place on this team. It depends on how you feel about their ability to compete in the near future. But the fact that he's coming up on free agency and could command more money, that's something you have to think about. Because lots of balls extension eligable. Like I said, Josh Hart's extension knowledgeable. You don't want this team to get too costly too quickly. And then if you're gonna look at moving Holiday, you're gonna have to look at moving JJ Reddeck. He's going to the last year of his contract. If you think Holiday looks out of place, then of course JJ Reddick looks out of place. I'm more of the mind. There's Derrick Favors is entering free agency. I'm more of the mind you basically run it back. I don't think Derrick Favors is the best fit for this team, even though some of the lineups were spectacular, particularly on defense, with him. If he's fully healthy and you can get him for a cheap, cheap deal, that's fine. I think you need a five that can space the floor around Ingram and Zion Williams in long term. And I'm not saying they need to go out there and trade for Miles Turner if he's available. I look into it, but you don't want to give up the farm for him. But I think this team is on the verge of something really special and sustainable. And the biggest change I would make is seeing what you can parlay Lonzo Ball into. Can he be part of a blockbuster package that brings you back a Miles Turner or a high impact player, or is it just a matter of you know what we need to we need to divest right now, Like, let's see if we can get back picks in prospects for him, because he's coming up on a pay day. But I'd keep Drew, I'd keep jj Reddick, I'd absolutely keep Josh Hard. I look at what it had cost to extend him, and yeah, i'd monitor favors. I try and get a space er center. There aren't a ton of those on the open market this year, but you imagine Paul Millsap in New Orleans for the mid level smaller even Marc Gasol. They play really fast, but Marc Gasol has played really fast with Toronto too, and so that that could work out. Those are the things that I look into, and I don't think we need to relitigate their future. It's still one of the most blindingly, blindingly bright ones in the NBA. Yeah, I've made my thoughts clear here on previous episodes that I think you can just entirely run it back. I still have confidence in Jackson Hayes's development. I love what I've seen from Lonzo Ball pre bubble when he gets to play next design, which should be happening more frequently next season. So I just I don't have any long term concerns. I agree that there don't need to be any worries about that right now. That said, my choice for this award was the Lakers. As we are recording this, they have sixty five points with eight minutes left in the third quarter and are losing to the Sacramento Kings. They are already three and four in the Bubble. They have the worst offensive rating in the Bubble. They've been outscored by five point six points per one hundred possessions. They have had some of their their biggest flaws exposed, namely their their lack of shock creation ability. Without Lebron James on the court, the point guard rotation is as messy. Anthony Davis has not been able to elevate the team when Lebron isn't on the court with him. And yet I don't think that we need to be concerned. We've been down this road before so many times with Lebron James's teams, where it seems like they're in a decline before the playoffs, it doesn't seem like they're legit contender based on some of the underlying numbers, and then they take it to another level in the playoffs because Lebron is incredible. They're going to figure it out. They have two of the top five players in basketball on their team. They have a number of legitimate, decent role players. Kyle Kuzma has shown significant growth within the bubble. If you can keep shooting like this, they're going to be even better, just if you're concerned about the Lakers, like sure, voice the concerns while acknowledging how little they've needed to care about this bubble experience because they've already locked up the number one seed and had nothing to play for other than keeping their players healalthy and maybe experiment maybe experimenting with some new players and some new rotations. They're gonna be fine. Yeah, And look, I would even view it as look. For one, I don't think you could be concerned until you have to be, which would be do they suck in the first round of the playoffs or something. And there's a lot of questions for them because they don't have Avery Bradley. I think Rondo being absent actually helps them, even though they need another ball handler. I'm actually almost encouraged because if Kyle Kuzma is going to shoot like this, that helps their team out oh so much. And he's been defending well too, for a good port of a good part of the season, and also for like a good part of the past two seasons just hasn't been awful, And now all of a sudden, I'm thinking even longer term. I know people think this is Lebron's best chance at getting a title. I don't disagree, but I might even take it next year if Kyle Kuzman is gonna play like this, even with the Warriors returning, because now you have Kyle Kuzma, you're gonna have the non taxplayers mid level this season, and the idea of adding an impact guy because you know the Lakers will spend on like others team on other teams. On top of Kuzma, Lebron, Anthony Davis, Danny Greene, assuming Avery Bradley picks up his player option, they'll still probably be able to afford to keep him even if he if he doesn't like there's a nice little bass there with This also does for them if Kuzman's gonna play like this long term, is once you sign him to his next contract, he becomes eminently more tradable because he's a bigger cap hit. And if he's playing really well and teams want him, now of a sudden you have a more attractive trade piece. And so yes, I'm thinking far down the line, but that's what people kind of try to Parlayvis stretches of should we call him like humanness from Lebron into like Oh, is this where he's going to finally decline. Let's relax. It's not a problem until it is, and it's not yet a problem. Agreed. So we have two more awards before we wrap up, and both of these are Dan's creations, so I will I'll let him introduce them. This one was most likely to see most likely to send an Alex Jones video to the team group chat. I have Michael Porter Junior. Yeah, definitely a Michael Pizza Gate Porter Junior. He's Pizza Gate Israel Porter Junior. Definitely valid choice. I'm gonna go with with with Terrence Davis from the Toronto Raptors, who the biggest headline that he made in the bubble was cutting a hole in the mask that he was wearing because he believes that coronavirus is a hoax or whatever, and the Raptors had to sit down and have a conversation with him. I think that because he is directly denying the existence or the impact of the pandemic in the controlled bubble environment, whereas Michael Porter is at least following the protocols, he was used white choice here. Dwight was warned like eighty times to put on a mask too, so honorable mention to him. And look, I understand in the case of Terrence Davis and Michael Porter Junior. Yeah, I want to say, younger kids make mistakes, and so you know, I'm happy there wasn't this level of social media exposure when I was Michael Porter Junior's age. I also wasn't saying dumb shit like this, like when it was just so obvious that it was bad. And so I think that you can give their future the benefit of the doubt, like hopefully they'll become more informed moving forward. But they absolutely positively deserve to be dragged for these takes. Rudy Gobert, not all opinions are facts, like drag him too. I wouldn't put him in the Alex Jones category just yet though, But Dwight Howard, Terrence Davis, and Michael Porter Jr. Like they deserve the criticism they're getting. I hope this doesn't. As we said before the podcast started, it's great that that Michael Porter Junior and Rudy Gobert are going to be playing in the first round. They are right, that's locked in. I'm not not all opinions are facts, ball, yes, exactly, like, whoever loses that series, they're just gonna deny the loss. Did it if it happened in the Bubble? Did it actually happen exactly? Who knows the last award apparently or not apparently, so it has some explaining. We call it the Bubble Yum Award. And so anyone who's had Bubble youm knows that the flavor can be really good for like thirty to one hundred twenty seconds, but then it's either bad afterwards or you don't know how it's going to be afterwards. You have to get like a good stick. So this was to target players that were spectacular in hyper limited playing time. It wasn't to say that they would suck if you gave them more minutes. In fact, the player that I chose played decidedly more minutes than his team's final game of the Bubble and fared well. But that's who we were targeting. I went with Chris Boucher, who is just an absolute monster statistically early bird restricted free agent by the way, so there's a cap on how much he could earn, but I'm just interested to see if there's a competition for him outside of Toronto. But in the bubble. In twelve point two minutes per game, he averaged nine points, four point three rebounds, one point two blocks. He slashed sixty one fifty six point three percent from three, and then he shot seventy percent at the foul line. If anyone cares about what this is going to amount to per minute, he averaged twenty six point six points, twelve point eight rebounds, three point four blocks per thirty six minutes. And again, the shooting from three that he's provided, like the release is not the quickest, but their teams are gonna leave him open. I want to I want to see him get minutes in the playoffs. Hopefully the Raptors blow out the nets enough in the first round that we can see him on the floor. But just a level of activity he provides as a shot blocker pould have been your real rotation, Toronto. Like, I know you have Abaca and Siakam and Marcusol, but that needs to be their troll lineup there. It is Siakam, Gasol, Abaca, Chris Boucher, who else? Who else can we throw in there? Like, I just can't wait to see that line up against the Nuggets super big lineup in the finals. That would be great. That would look it would if those two teams make the finals. It has to happen. Happen, and we'll cap it off just because we can. I you know, we have Hernandez from the Raptors. But I'm just gonna throw Stanley Johnson in there because he hit a game winner the other night and so he's I think he's six eight, so that's big enough, fair enough. But Bouchet is a great choice. I'm going to maybe cheat a little bit here. He might have played a little bit too much to be eligible for this non existent award. But I'm gonna go with Robert Williams, the third who had a DNP in the first two games of the bubble. He played thirteen seconds against the Miami Heat and managed to foul three times in his first bubbles But then from that point forward, it's like that motivated him and he's been fantastic in the next four games. While playing fourteen point eight minutes per game, He's averaged eleven point five points and four point eight rebounds. He shot eighty two point six percent from the field and eighty eight point nine percent from the free throw line. Those obviously aren't sustainable numbers, but I think it goes to show just like how effective he's been as a rim runner and roller while also showing more growth on defense. We've seen flashes from Williams in the past the time lord on both ends of the court, really in this limited around the rim role on off sand as a rim protector on defense, but he's it looks like he's become even more and could have a legitimate role with a Boston team that is trying to figure out what exactly it's going to do with its center rotation come playoff time. I don't know if you listen to the most recent low post, but he called Robert Williams the Third the Michael Porter Jr. Of the East, And I try to, you know, I try to be someone who admits when they actually don't know things, because I think one of the problems with NBA Twitter media in generals that were afraid to admit when we were wrong or that we don't know something. I have not seen nearly enough of Robert Williams the Third this season to have made that claim. So I went and I was watching clips of him, just random on some regular season on plays and then some some of his bubble tape. Holy crap. Like if the Celtics now luck into like they have Tye and Robert Williams the third and it's like, oh, they're just set at center, like no cap space, no real They have some draft equity, but not like high end draft equity, and you're like, oh wow, so he looks like he's going to end up being really good, and boy does that guy has some damn Yeah. I mean he just it's the classic like uber athletic big band conundrum where he fouls a little bit too much to stay on the court see three thirteen seconds. Well, this is the perfect award for him because it's like, you know, like if Mitchell Robinson was in the Bubble. Yeah, I want Mitchell Robinson to play thirty five minutes a game, but they don't give him ten fouls and so that might be a problem. Yes, that concludes this first edition. I don't know if it don't be the last edition, given where the state of the coronavirus pandemic will be for next season. 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