Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to the Gimmick, the Bonus episode
this month whatever it might be a couple of episodees because wrestling is just hot
right now. There's lots to talk about. But luckily, you know,
I'm trussed now. I'm joined by the incomparable David. David, how are
you doing today? I'm good, I'm awake these this show ended earlier than
I thought, so I am happy about it. Yes, So we're gonna
That's all we're talking about right now is just WrestleMania. It won't blow through,
but we'll you know, some if there's something that doesn't need to be
talked about, like something like the Snoop Dogg stuff, probably skip over,
you know. But you know, luckily, man, this this is a
fun one. All the links, everything you know that's down below, you
know what to do there. We're gonna go through this. But there's been
so many times I feel like, especially if trust told you when I did
wrestling, things there are always I always tried to time them with pay per
views, but then the times where they are bonus, where I went to
the site, it's always like bad news, right, And obviously this was
gonna happen because wrestle MANI everything like that. But it feels so good to
come on the air and be talking about just being happy and being happy with
the WW Probably. Now I'm not saying over the years you couldn't have been.
I'm out saying that has been great matches or moments, but this is
like as bad, like I would say, it's funny it happens in ten
years. The last time probably was Daniel Bryan. The time before that was
the ending of twenty. Like there's just these moments in time where you go,
man, is ever going to reach that height again? And what's nice
about this moment, especially which we'll get into because we talked about last night,
like new era everything like that, it's nice that this doesn't feel like
this is probably it. You know, when we got those good moments before,
it'd be like, oh, well, Vince was into this this time,
this month, this day, and then here we go, Like when
Daniel Brian won, he was never really the guy, right, even when
Ben won, Eddie won, they got their titles, but they weren't the
guys went back to Tripleacher. They were getting ready for Batista or seeing it
right, Like there's always like they give us that nice moment of like,
oh yeah, you wrestling little marks, you can have your your guy you
like, and then we're gonna go there. We're gonna get to the big
guy or big gal who maybe But this time and this is why I tweet
a little bit of ago, because yes, Cody, he grew up in
the WW system everything like that. But then he left and everyone knows the
story. But if you look at all the faces between Hogan, Seen Stone,
Cold Rock Roman, they all are themselves. Of course, they all
bring things to the character, but they are still wwe made right. It's
like a complete partnership where like Bruce Pittchard said years ago and even Vince,
they said, we want to buy the American Nightmare product. And for Cody,
a guy who built the American Nightmare went to AW like you and I
lived through the WCW era, how many times would it be? Well,
he's a WCW guy, so we can't like give him the full ball,
right, But tonight and again it is an New America's replacing thing. But
Cody Rhodes has finished the story. He won the WW Championship in a crazy
which we're gonna get too. But David, what are your initial thoughts on
It's like I'd say, I guess a two year journey, but it's much.
It's much if you Andyscer, this feels like a whenever he stepped foot
in the ring, that's when that journey started. Really, I don't know
how long it was, sixteen years ago, whatever, but it's been decades
of a journey. Even if you want to talk about back to Dusty and
we're finally here, what was like? What was that like for you?
It? It was great. I mean he left WW in May of twenty
sixteen and has taken us on a ride since. Uh. Changed the business
too, not just like oh just his crucify literally changed business with other people,
you know. Yeah, And it's very rare to see someone who leaves
makes a name for themselves, says I'm going to show you that I'm worthy
of this, goes on an all out war, comes back and gets pushed
to this pedestal consistently not here, here's your moment. All right, shut
up, we gave you your guy, Now leave us alone so we can
get back to our guy. This is consistently giving us what we want.
Yeah, yeah, it was. It was just nice because I will give
them kudos. They multiple times. I still always thought Cody was gonna win.
But Cody was pulling out some like old school Adjude or Rock shoulder finishers,
because Rock used to be the master at If you go back watch Rust
when seventeen, his shoulder over his auses so many times, He's so good
at Oh just up. At last second, Cody hit me with a couple
of os. I was like, oh my god. And you never know,
right, because like there's been some even last year, and I know
now people might say like, oh, it's good he didn't win last year.
I think now in retrospect I can say that. But at the same
time, if Vince or other creative people was here, we don't know if
this would have happened, right. We were very lucky that a lot of
things happened. Obviously not for anything that the guy had done that shouldn't have
happened that way. But I mean, like, in this stage, I
feel like you could equate to this seeing at the end you got everyone together
and then you're seeing like triprch and code together. This is something we've talked
about for years. This is something like once the NXT Black and Gold era
starts like, man, I can't wait till one day this could happen.
And there's multile time where it looked like Triple Ah might not even be creative
or up top right. So it's just like, it's so great to see
this, and this was the stamping of Okay, it is a new era
now because if Roma's just won, I see the appeal, the bloodline is
hot, Roman's hot, you can break Hogan's record, you can do all
this stuff. But then it's just kind of okay, it's same old,
same old, and then who's the next guy? And then there's not right.
So this was a full on like it can't be takeaway, even not
that I would want this. I don't need to coy lose tomorrow, but
even if not, it can't be taken away. And I don't with the
presentation they gave him, it does not feel like the Daniel Bryan's or the
one of us like we were just talking about where it's like, Okay,
you got your moment, be happy. Now we're gonna get back to track,
like okay, here you go. Uh you know, I'm not gonna
say die Jack, but someone from NXT, like this is the first time
from the PC, But yeah, it was. It was Bravo all the
way around. And what I said to Emily two is I love that they
were off like off air but on air for a long time. So many
times we get to see that maybe from some shitty iPhone footage or something like
that, they just stuck with it. It was just it. Honestly,
it was pretty much perfect. There's only one thing that wasn't perfect for me,
but that's not even anything to do with the match. It's just who
they could get. And I guess someone couldn't show up because I thought there
was a clear moment that was like, oh, you're the backup legend.
But that's okay. It was still cool, but it was. It's definitely
I don't know match wise, but as far as important or just well done
big time made events, it's going to go down as something really special and
they had to deliver. It's the rest of my forty right. If if
they would have watched this the whole new aeroslogan, they would mean really nothing,
you know. And it takes me back to last year again. It
sucked when you heard it, but Triple Ah said last year and he's been
saying since trust the process, trust the process, and again as the Cody
fan, that was hard to digest. But man, did they deliver.
And that's a tough thing, right because we've been told that before, the
classic saying of let it play out, and as ww fans, we have
let it play out before and it goes really bad, you know, it
plays out in the wrong way. So it takes a lot for That's why
everybody's like, oh, don't worry, and even this, Ye're like,
look at what happened two months ago. This was not the plan, right,
This was probably the plan for Wrestling forty one, but two months ago
the plan was Rock and Roman WrestleMania. So that's where it's like, even
in trusting the process, there was still never a for sure this was gonna
happen. And I think it did end up being the best route with the
Final Boss and Roman and the bloodline. Like people were saying it was gonna
happen, and they did make this Avengers endgame. That's what this was.
It was Avengers endgame, a bunch of people coming out, But I also
appreciated it. I'd have to look at when Jimmy came in, but it
felt like am I wrong in saying it was probably about fifteen minutes before interference.
It's I felt like they got a good amount of time before. They
got a good amount of time, and that that was in my notes for
them matches. They got a good amount of time, and I was I'm
very happy that they got a good amount of time to just have a peer,
back and forth wrestling match before everything came in. It wasn't just the
hole he's battling from the start, no, it they had a peer before
everything started happening, and then it all happened in succession, so it wasn't
a rest period, more pro rest period. They were like, look,
we gave you your match, now we're giving you your gimmick. Then they
ended back on the match because I was worried when they started pulling the Kindo
six and tables right away. I was like, because they did a maybe
two to three minutes of some wrestling, I'm not counting the aura where they
stand around and stare. That's of course befart of the match, but that's
something else. But they went to the weapons quick, and I was like,
oh, like I get it, because the argument could be okay.
Last year was like the Wrestling Classic match and this year is gonna be the
whole brawl and everything. But I was glad, like great heel heat Roman
puts the table back. They only used the kindo che stick from the cheap
But I was worried. It's like, oh, I don't want to get
into weapon warfare and the interferences right away because I think the building up to
it work because it build up to in a way where I think we all
knew people were coming out, but it's almost like the crowd forgot about that
right they got sewn in the match, and then once people started coming out,
it was like, oh shit, we're about to get some really good
stuff coming right now, you know. Yeah. And the fact that they
didn't go they didn't go all out with it. At first you had Jimmy,
and you had Jane, you had Solo. That that was the start,
and then everything else progressively made sense. So having Sena come after Solo
and having Rock come after Sena. Uh, Seth coming out with the shield
thing now broken, Seth. That was so great. He gets up there,
one shot done. I wonder so much after even while it coming with
someone he was like, oh my god, I wonder if Seth is legitimately
injured, and so they had to kind of change what he did so that
it was just to come out and get the Superman punch because you have poor
Seth and Kayo was helping him in the ring. During the celebration, I
was like, oh man, poor Seth. But yeah, Seth get his
and then take her out of the backup superstar that they had to go right,
Yeah, Austin hasn't made it to the venue yet. They went up
to the suits and got take her like we needed to run down here,
bro, which was smart because I didn't think we were going to to get
Taker because he was up there and no Taker was there. And there were
some times like, Okay, he's up there, that's not gonna happen.
And it's weird because even that tweet that Triple H scent was like at three
sixteen, So there was like a bunch of stuff that I and it sucks
that. At the end of the day, I'm definitely not gonna complain because
it's all fine. And the way I had canon is everybody would always refer
to Undertaker as the judge of the locker room, right, like the locker
room leader. So I'm fine with head Kenny en Of he saw this as
the guy of the old there who was the leader. He's like, that
is bullshit. I gotta step in. So that's why I'm gonna head canon.
I'm sure they might even do that because he was always the guy.
If you look back, they'd always say if you had a problem, you
went to Undertaker and he would settle with the talent whatever. He was the
guy that threatens Shawn Michael's life that if he didn't do business at wrestling with
awesome tape up. That's like, So that's how for a long term fan,
I can head canon. Go, Okay, he's the he's the legendary,
the old school leader saying no enough is enough. But that was definitely
awesome spot. That was definitely the way they set it up from like you
said, Jimmy to Jay j to solo solo to Scena rock, which,
like, I loved the way they did it because I don't know why I
didn't think about that, but I love that they had it. It was
rock and seen a third in a lifetime. We got that stare down,
they redid the the Aura standoff and everything. I didn't think but I just
thought, oh, it's just give me a Smaus with everybody interfering, but
no, I love that an Undertaker, it's out of nowhere. I wish
the glass break would happen because that really would have been full circle on the
bloodline stuff, because it's like the first enemy the Rock really made is coming
back. But it's okay because it's like people still fucking love Undertaker. Right
My kids were going nuts for it, so it was it was good and
then my I don't know what my favorite part is but as of right now,
which is crazy because I'm a Cody guy. He's the guy litergimly got
me watching WW I'm gonna stick to my word now they knighted in him.
I'm back full time. I'm gonna be watching the product full time. I'm
gonna learn. I like, even tonight, I was like, that's Bailey's
finish. I didn't even know if Bailey's finish was this like whatever weird head
stomped smash thing, which you'll get into. What is it called. It's
like the ro It's like, yeah, stupid, it's weird. But that's
where for me, and that's why it is important because I stopped. I'd
watch peerter views. Of course I watched Mania, but I stopped watching W
full time until Cody came back, and even then I wasn't full time full
time because there is some still questionable booking going on. But what is another
just great full circle moment everything from Seth and Roman tagging last night the shield
and Seth came on the shield gear. But man, that's what for me
is the best part of the match is what costs Roman reigns. He finally
wanted to fucking get back at Seth, rawl and set They had this moment
where everything's gone down. Seth got Superman punched, He's loopy, Cody's on
one side holding the rope, Seth's on another side holding the ropes. Roman
has a chair and he's looking at Cody. Then he sees set and it's
that replaying of the shield where Seth hit Roman. And that was such a
great moment because in that back then everyone thought it was gonna be Ambrose,
that was gonna turn right. No one thought Seth. So this great full
circle of Roman finally gets his come up and he finally gets a big fe
to Seth rawlins, but it caught like his ego cost him the title,
which it fits with the tribal chief head of the table guy right, because
he thinks he could do both. He think he can get back at Seth
and be Cody. He had to choose, and he chose wrong, and
it was it was so good. And then the last what was it,
the last Crossroads when Cody's just shaking him that full circle moment was just that
cinema that Yeah, to be in the arena as he stood up for that
third one and he's given the shake and you can just tell he is fired
up, he knows what's coming next. The arena is on its feet.
That was just that was a perfect way to end it. Yeah, it
was. It was phenomenal, great match, great story, great cameo,
it was everything. That is the type of match that to me with a
lot of casuals that do tune for WrestleMania, just the whole weekend in general.
But that's why you want I'm not saying the bad guy can never win
at WrestleMania. I think there was a time where we had three WrestleManias in
a row. I guess they didn't have with Brock, but it was years
of a row of just Bloodline interferes, Lol, Roman wins, right,
it was I think that was some of the thing that was getting on people's
nerves. It's not that Rome was winning, it was just always the same
finish of it was either a superkick or a spike into a spear and then
it was over. They were like even this last year, that's all.
It was Roman's defenses, with with with Jay, with La Knight, with
the Rumble, it was all of them were interference. And that's what was
weird because when they first started with Roman, if anyone doesn't remember, he
beat Bronze, Stroman and Bray like he did kind of cheat a little,
but still he just kind of beat them up with a chair. He had
many the defenses where he didn't cheat, and then there was like a pivot
halfway through the Bloodline story where he's like a he's a heeled chant, like
he's a real heel champion where he has to cheat take corners and stuff.
So I think that's where it came down. But even they did the whole
they did the solo spike, Cody kicked out. They did the solo spike
into a spear and he kicked out, So I was, yeah, to
me, this is the type of matchine ending for a resume that brings on
new people that go, oh, this is something I want to watch.
This is something I want to see. And they've been very smart as I'm
shared that sure in the discord that it says the story continues, because that
is the thing, right, there's oh we wood you fish a story,
what do you do? It's just like that. Now it's like one we've
talked about last night. There's so much you can do. But that's smart
for them to embed that in of like, oh, don't go away,
because now it's like, there's got to be more. I imagine we might
probably get a Codin Cody Roman rematch. I've been thinking SummerSlam. I don't
know if you agree with that. Do you think that's what they're going to
do the third or you think they'll leave it as it is with this.
I think that they're going to leave it alone for a while. I think
that Roman's probably going to take some time and they are going to let some
other members of the bloodline kind of step up, and then Roman's going to
come back and be a part of this. But I think they're going to
give it some time. I don't think they're going to go straight to it
because it will be kind of hard after this long rain to get straight back
into it. But at least if they let it breede for a little bit,
let him have some other challengers, they may do that Summer Slam.
But I have a feeling they wait just a little bit longer. I could
see more of Survivor series. Yeah, November. Yeah, that could be
a bit longer. That could make sense, because what is that That's May
June July they add it is only four months. I think two. If
this wasn't if it didn't come off as like as epic as it did,
I think then I was more in that mindset. But with the ending,
it is almost a match to where if they said we're never gonna do Cody
and Roman again, I'd be fine at that too. It's like this is
a good place to leave it, you know, like, don't do because
now like the first because I just think now the third one would just be
Cody winning, right, And I don't know what the drama would be there.
I feel it could be bloodline drama, but maybe against Roman. I
don't know. So I'm kind of le fine if they leave it as you
know, Cody or Roman one last year, Cody one this year, they
move on. We did hear from at least Fightful. We don't know more,
but apparently Jacob Foughtwo has signed. So that's what I was gonna ask
you. Now that we got this, we didn't get any which I'm very
happy with. No double agent raw. I do think that was on the
board at one time, but I think they saw how good the reception and
Rock was, which also my only other complaint for the When the Rock came
out, he's swearing, Just let him swear. You're on a pl who
cares? At this point? At one point there was like ten seconds it
was just dead air. My kids kept asking, oh why, what what's
going on? Like just let it go? Like at that point, it's
like it's it's the finale. Who cares? He swore last night? Just
let it happen. Now, if this is the replays, then okay,
but it's the plis. Just let it happen. That's like when I was
a kid. You know, when you'd watch Stone Cold come out on the
USA Network that they would bleep him and they would try to blow the finger
sometimes. Yeah, when you watch the pay per view, you saw it
all. Just let it happen. Yeah, and I get it that it's
on Peacock and everything, but I yeah, I just think that they should
have and again minor complaint. I'm not sure maybe on the actual replay if
they might kind of take that out or edit it out. But and I
do have the scrum. I'm not watching, but I have like no ovocators,
so anything big gets talked about. But Cody just took the panel and
he's got his title. Man, he looked good. The entrances were both
just They had the Jews, Cody looking like this weird cross of Triple H
and I don't know the Statue of Liberty. I liked it though it was
great. We got the Brandy appearance. Also, another person didn't get involved
match, and that there's maybe another surprise too. This whole weekend, we
never got Mama Rode slapping the rock. I thought that was a shoein to
happen me too. I am shocked that Mama Roads didn't get physically involved,
especially after the whole thing about her jumping the guardrail and slap the security guard
and everything like that. I would have assumed she would have at least got
a slap in or something physical on somebody. In the fact that she didn't,
I don't know maybe that was her choice or not, but it just
seemed like a missed opportunity. So this is where I'm gonna pitch you.
Then if we don't get because I know he's gonna go off film movie,
But if we don't get Roman Cody, do you think it's more likely we
get Cody and Rock? And I wonder in that scenario if that's a post
Roman's out of the bloodline, and man, wouldn't that be a fun full
circle moment If the Rock is doing what Roman's doing, he's cheating about to
win beat Cody and Rome. And that's because I was just thinking where you
could get the Muma Roads slap, like maybe they're saving it for Cody versus
Rock one on one. You could have that moment there because I feel like
they didn't pull off the whole Mumba Roades thing right, so you could pay
it off. And that's where I think that maybe you could do it,
And what a moment that could be of Roman costing the Rock the title,
and that leads to many I think I just feel like the Mama Roads.
Thing not happening feels very specific. I feel like all the people in that
room are smart enough they would have been, hey, you know, how
come she's not gonna slap the Rock Like that feels like such an easy spot
they do all the time with like he Like even Drew McIntire's wife was in
the crowdday and she like seem punk blue or kids like. I feel like
they're all He's really cognitive of that. So I think they might be saving
it for stuff down the line now. So yeah, I could see the
Rock being a challenger before Roman being a challenger because he technically has not beat
the Final Boss. True and Rock pindam right, so that can be his
claim to that. Not only of course he's just like, hey, I'm
on the board. I can do whatever I want, but it is I've
pinned the current ww champion to the mat. He'll probably say clean, you
know, because it was whatever like no DQ in his world. But yeah,
and I think there's we saw it this year where luckily Cody and Roman
that crowd was hot. I was so happy because that was my biggest concern
after last year. Also, I didn't know the Final Boss was gonna happen
all this stuff, But my biggest concern was can they get the crowd that
fired up because a lot I've used, for example is HPKA and take Her
two and seeing her rock too, where you know, still maybe not so
much rock and seena, but like still good matches, but like the crowd
just wasn't there because the result was just kind of known right, you knew
scene was gonna win, you knew h was hanging up, so that there
was like it did not have that same jews the first ones did, so
I was always my worry with this, but the crowd came to play.
I saw multiple people press saying one of the reasons is it was a lot
warmer and just felt like the crowd was way more alive. So maybe I
know they're tum about Doom Minnesota, but maybe in the future they gotta maybe
it sucks because they want the money. But that was a calm complaint from
so many people last night day that they were freezing and tonight when they're warmer,
you could see like the crowd felt way like alive. The whole event
this time were last night. There were sometimes where they would sit out and
go okay, I'm too fucking cold to stand and raw raw right now,
So maybe they should think about some things like that. I don't know.
It's tough right with money involved. So yeah, the crowd definitely seemed a
whole lot more into it tonight. They got up on their feet more,
they were more active. They chanced tonight or on par now some of them
were because people couldn't see for two matches. Oh my god. Yeah,
I've had too at WrestleMania's. It happens every year and you just think,
can you test out before? So I apologize to those people. That really
sucks. I've been that position where I think I know not AJ. I
think I was. It was like Randy and Kin for my Mania, where
I was there alive and it was just like stop. It was. It
was like Caine's red lights were on for extended times. I remember that being
a thing. But this is twice, five years apart that it just happened
to AJ that I'm like AJ versus the lights is the few that I didn't
know that I was getting. Yeah, no, I just hopefully they test
that out. But yeah, so do you think now because I think probably
done with the main event. But if I think Jacob A two signed Fightful
as you like, they got a very good track record. They're like the
Hollywood reporter variety of this business. Do you think that is an immediate because
we're talking about this, is this a raw SmackDown where the Rock goes you
know, you failed us and it's we bring in Jacob, we bring up
maybe Tom and Tong like the Rock's crew, and which I do think with
I think there's money in a war games of bloodline versus bloodline, Like imagine
that poster of Rock and Roman and then they got all like the family members
that are divided, Like there's some stuff you could do there. But do
you think this is something we immediately get the because we all know what's going
that way? Do you think it is this week or do you think that's
something that's held off and Rock and Roma are just kind of gone for a
bit and we pick up later. I think both Rock and Roman are gonna
leave for a while. I think the Rock is gonna be here probably for
the next two weeks or so. And what he's gonna do is, yeah,
he's going to introduce your Jacob Fatus. He might even introduce Tamatanga and
he will get the Rocks blood line, and there their thing is to rebuild
the blood line. And he says that, you know, they do a
whole thing where they send Roman off. Hey, you need some time away
to think about this, and the Rock says, I'm gonna go away,
but when I come back, you guys need to be back on top.
Okay, So not the immediate evolution, kill and breakout. It's like a
fix this and if you don't, I'll fix it for you sort of thing.
Yeah, okay, I could see that too, because then because I
think Roman, I know he's part time, but like he's still is gonna
He's easier to get than the Rock. So I agree with you because it's
that maybe it's summertime time, but I do think obviously there's probably gonna be
a year of Roman versus solo, Roman versus some other bloodline people in that
situation too. Where do you think they have Paul Hayman go, Does he
stick with Roman or does he turn on Roman as well when the eventually turn
does happen whenever it does, And I'm asking these questions just in case.
We watch Roddamore on Roman's Bloody on the mat and this has already happened.
So where do you think Paul goes and all this. I think that Paul
will go with Roman, yep, and then I think that whoever ends up
on top of the bloodline at the end of this story, that's where Paul
goes. So originally he's going to go with Roman, but then he is
going to side with whoever is left at the head of the table because he's
the slimy character. He's the slimy he did already. Yeah, that's gonna
be a moment when like for some reason Roman needs a chair or something and
Paul doesn't give it, Like that's gonna there's gonna be some goods. And
that's what we've always talked about Rock and Roman does not need a title.
The title is the tribal chief like that is like the head of the table
boss, Like you don't need any of that. That's just it's like when
the Undertaker's shreak was pumping. It's just as important as the title, right,
So yeah, that's gonna be interesting. So we'll see. But yeah,
if Jacob two debut, he's definitely all right. If he's signed,
he's definitely happening in the next little bit here, and I think that's I
think some new members are good to give it some juice because it's Jay solo
and then Roman who just lost, and I'm excited to see Roman. Roman's
great at what he does to play a new character of letting everyone down and
losing in his eagle like he was so cocky and arrogant. I actually think
even more than Cody and Roman, I think there's like a road Roman Seth
match potentially very soon too. And I think there's buckets and buckets of story
they can really do there. You know, that's another one. It needs
no title. So is there any thing you have left on the main event
to say? No, It's just it was a perfect ending to not only
the story but Russellmania as a whole. Yeah, what did you think of
the overall night? Because we talked about this so for you night one,
Night two? What took it so? For me? Outside of the main
event, the top match was Drew versus Seth, which really surprised me with
how well it was and they they really went for the gusto with that,
and I, you know, I thought that it was going to start off
with the five second match, and like I was shocked for a second,
like, oh my god, this is over already, and then Drew stopping
halfway between to send out a tweet the same bord it work. Lol,
Oh my god, this gimmick is true mctire. We've all said it,
but he's never been better. That was just price is the fact that he's
tweeting during the match and then his fall up tweet later on just the fun
like this is Drew McIntyre is one of like I put him up there with
Cody and Roman for interesting characters. Right now he is killing it. That
was so good. Yeah, so it's it's just been been great all around.
And uh and then Seth with the you fucking deserve it to end it
all right before the Damien cash in and I'm like, geez, this this
is something and yeah, it was just it was great and I'm I'm here
for it. I'm here for the Damien cash. Everything about this was just
it was dope. So that that was my outside of the main event.
That was my match of the night. They started hot and they ended hot.
But so then you're saying the middle portion maybe was a bit of a
lull for you, Then the middle portion was a lull, but not that
it was bad. I think my lowest rated match was a three star and
that was AJ and La Knight. That's I think part of what disappointed me
was I got all this hype about AJ getting new music and then you really
didn't get anything with the music. I mean, he didn't even have time
to really sit and marinate in the music. He was straight down to the
ring now. And then the biggest distraction was the crowd yelling at the lights
and things like that, and La Knight got his needed wind that was kind
of presumed. And then the Logan Paul Randy Orton KO thing. Now,
Randy Orton and Kevin Owens were just out there having absolute fun. They were
enjoying themselves from the moment yeah that they walked into the ring and everything else,
and then the crowd chanting gatorade at Logan Paul and things like that.
I had no idea who. Logan's friend was like, they're going off about
this guy, and I'm like, I have no idea. I'm above thirty,
don't know who this guy is. So bad with streamers like there was
those puplishers like our TikTokers, like I don't know any of these people,
so like, I hope people are enjoying this, because I couldn't tell you
this, man, if you put a gun to my head right now,
I think it's Iso speed or I Show speed or something. But I was
like, yeah, I couldn't name you a single thing done. And then
Bailey versus Eo. I liked Bailey's entrance. I know some people didn't,
but I love like Egyptian history and the people who are watching it with they
are very huge on Greek culture, so you know, I got some insight
from there. EO's weird little dance to the ring more looked like she was
drunk than she was dancing to the ring. I'm not gonna lie, but
the crowd was on fire for Bailey. There were some sloppy spots, but
overall some good wrestling, and again Bailey got her moment, So I mean
nothing to say about it. I thought that the Bobby and the off his
versus Carrion Cross's group it was. The match itself was serviceable again, great
spots, Bubba popping Philly left and right, but Snoop Dogg was the best
part of that match. Like, so, what's that say about the match?
You had? Some great spots, but when the commentary steals the show
on that match and I'm spending too much time laughing out the outlandish things that
are being said and the things in the ring, and aop disappeared after like
five minutes the gassed. Yeah so where then? Overall on the nights,
all right, which what do you put over for Night one? Actual rest
Wrestling and actual WrestleMania. Night one took it for me, but not two
had a better start and stop, Like if I could take a lot of
the beats from Night one again. Night two came out hard and hard,
but there was that big lull in the middle, but you could tell,
hey, we're just letting you guys rest because you know what's coming. We
know what's coming. We all know what's coming, so let's not just go
too crazy. There was something that I said in the discord. For me,
it's like I still enjoyed the whole night, but it was just that
waiting for the main event that was like, Man, I'm on Pins and
Neils. It's like something I'll have to go back and watch, but I
think you put a good way where I have. It reminds me of like
the Guther and Sammy versus ream Becky debate I have in my own head,
and you were in that similarity where I feel this is the first time that
the nights are equal, but for different reason. I think Night one did
have like the better wrestling, but Night two delivered on the spectacle and the
WrestleMania moments. It's all like, they'll never do this again. But it
is almost like if you were to trim the fat and put Night one and
Night two together, you could maybe have the greatest WrestleMania of like if you
had the Becky Rea match. You couldn't do the tag match right because like
you can't have Rock and Seth and Cody and Rowan wrestling all in one.
But there is like a way I can envision this all together. You take
out a few things and it could be one of the greats. But yeah,
I don't know because it's tough for me. Now for me, it's
a different era. I can't compare the two night WrestleMania's to the one nights.
So when everyone's like, oh, this is like the one the greatest
WrestleManias, I'll say, oh, it's one of the greatest two nights.
But you can't compare Night one and Night two. I think it just or
sorted like a one night to a two nights. It's just weird. It's
like it's hard to I guess you and your mind have to put the shows
together. But then there's many times where we've seen, like Night two be
very disappointing, and then even though Night one's a banger, if Night two
is a disappointing, that should bring down the whole show, right, So
it's a weird dichotomy. So for me, I kind of put the single
shows by themselves and then the two nighters by themselves. But I'd say I
would definitely say since the two nights have started, this is the best combo
because I feel like Night two is always under delivered in some route. But
I think I end up liking the Aja La Night match more, maybe because
I had lower expectations. I just for some reason thought they might have a
styles clash. No pun intended, but I thought they had like a good
similar like Jericho and Krishnet twenty or like Ordinary Undertaker at twenty one, where
they are allotted their time, they got their stuff in as almost broke his
neck on that German like he flipped but he was like inches away from not
flipping and it was over for him, like it was, Yeah, it
was. I was scared for him. But and no botch or anything.
So I enjoyed the match. But yeah, they rushed through, but kind
of like the Jay Usso thing, you won Elle Knight to get that the
yeah at WrestleMania. The crowd and they were fired up. And I think
Ellie Knight is a guy that other than the lights, they it is like
a crowd wake up thing, right, He'll come out and the second the
crowd gets uplifted. So I think it's smart where they placed it. So
no, I actually end up liking that one a lot more Like I don't
know if I could go to a four, but I think it m'd be
like a three point seventy five on that somewhere around there. So I really
enjoyed that. The street fight was what it was, you know, it
was to promote Gin and Juice. You got Snoop Dogg, you know,
and again you do need those lulls in the card. So it provided that,
you know, the Pride gotta win. That's the way it should be.
Like, I don't think the what are they the final testament or the
yeah yeah, I from the little I've seen of them, it's not I
don't know, it's I I would prefer if AOP was just back in the
tag division and doing that sort of stuff. So I hope they kind of
go that route and carry across. I don't know, there's an example of
that's a guy that should be shaving his head all the time, because when
he has his head shave, he looks like a may he looks like a
star. And now he just kind of looks like another guy. You know,
like maybe he doesn't want the bald head. But there's something about that
that had something, So that was that was fine. I really like Bailey
and EO on the back half. I felt the first five to seven minutes
it's like what calum chair sales time, but legitimately felt like they were feeling
each other out. There was a couple of like missteps, not botches,
but just little things like oh okay, not there. But then I feel
like the last ten minutes they really brought home some really great spots. That
spot when EO a moon salt and literally Bailey just stuck her feet up,
not her knees, her feet. I was like, geez, that's how
you know their friends because they're trusting each other with a spot like that,
because that could again go completely topsy turvy and eos really hurt, right,
But I love the aerial salt of she hits her with the moon salt.
That didn't do it, so she's gonna hit her three moon salts standing a
second rope, a third rope. Bailey's still kicking out, Like, I
really enjoyed the back half, so I really have to watch. I think
I still give the edge to Rhea and uh Becky, but I think the
back half was really well done. And that was just another one that delivered
for me, other than Seth and Drew, my missing any other one that
happened. Let's see, we had profits versus AJ versilla and I Logan Paul,
well, right, that one, not the other one I forgot ta
about before Drew because we'll talk about money in the bank here in a second.
I enjoyed it. I think I'm starting to become almost like the Bloodline,
where I'm kind of getting bored of Logan Paul getting the breast and always
just one of his friends interferes because so far since he's been in the title
picture. That's the ending. Every time, you know, he it's either
Brass Knucks or it's a guy that's in the Prime Bottle. They interfere,
they get their ass beat, and then Logan does a cheap win, you
know, and that's Yeah, it's just kind of rints and repeat, and
I get I'm fine with him being the the celebrity has to cheat to win.
I just wish it would be and there's dozens of ways he can cheat
to win, you know. It doesn't have to just be Prime Bottle guy
or Brass knocks or I hate when it's like, oh, it's one of
his posse people that we don't know, you know, It's just it's it's
all. I was like, I don't know this guy. So I like
the match. I really like the setup of they beat Logan Paul down and
they were like, are we gonna fight now? We're gonna like Kao kept
asking him, should we fight now? Are we gonna fight now? I
like no, no, and then she all we're doing this now, yeah,
and then they just win and fought. So I really liked that.
I almost think that also, I know that hits like Ko and Sam and
stuff, but they might probably I'm not sure who they would turn heel between
Ko and Randy. That could be coming. But I also thought Kao and
Randy like could have some tential, is like a tag team. I think
they got really good chemistry. That entrance was fun, so I liked the
match. It was good. I think they had some good high spots.
Randy with a really cool RKO with that pop up power bomb in the Rkale
like, yeah, yeah, that was good. That was like that SETH
one nine years ago where if it goes wrong you look really dumb. You
know, it's just like you'll get the U fucked up chance and everything.
But they pulled it off. I was very like so overall that was still
like a good That for me was like a like above a three, like
a three point two five where I enjoyed it. But I think I think
they're just saving it for even he threw them out of the ring. I
imagine it backlash. I think maybe we'll get Randy and Logan. Whenever Logan
decides to wrestle next. It's gonna be I think just a singles match between
the two, and I'm looking more forward to that to see kay because I
guess I would count Seth, but I feel like other than Seth and Minion
Ko, but I just feel like Randy is a kind of a different breed
right, and Logan hasn't face He's verse race, So I'm taking it back.
He's versed all these great people already. I'm curious to see how Randy
and him do together. An athletic guy, so Ranny can really throw him
around and do some fun stuff. So I'm I'm with you. I'm just
I'm tired of the friends spot. Yeah, and again that maybe because I'm
in my thirties, so I don't know who have these friends are. But
he's proved in the Rumble and he's proved in other occasions that he can go
in the ring. He has the ability, he has the agility, he
has the conditioning, he can go in the ring. So let that be
it. If you want to do either the I go for a weapon or
I go for a friend, than fine, But doing both every match just
it gets a little bit too much for me. And like, I'm tired
of seeing that be the way Logan wins. Who's going to be in the
Prime Bottle this week? Yeah, And I hope, I hope it goes
away, especially because it'd be different to me if he was a celebrity that
couldn't wrestle. He can wrestle. He's very athletic. It'd be different if
it was somebody that was very limited, and it's like, hey, this
is how we have to hide them. We always have to have interference.
But they got the guy go against like Roman Reigns, and he like got
close to being right like they they've made sure to go. Oh like,
he's like Kurt Angle, he's picked this up. So well, then just
let him go. Let him cheat other way. He let him pull the
tights, let him do a low blow, let him do like a d
Q himself, let him do the knucks of course, and a friend every
once in a while. Maybe I would like it if those friends did start
becoming Austin Theory and Grayson Waller, just so it's more wwe like and I
can have some like caring about who this person is. So again we'll see.
I think he's gonna hold it. I'm in agreeents that I think he's
gonna hold it to Cleveland, because I know some people think that he's gonna
challenge Cody. I don't. I don't think they want Cody to potentially get
food there. So I think you can even have Paul main event that I
think he's gonna hold it to Cleveland. You agree there, Yeah, he's
He's definitely gonna be the selling point of Cleveland because when it comes to Cleveland,
you've got him, Miss and Johnny Gargana, Like those are your Cleveland
boys. And you know, I like Johnny Gargana, but he's not selling
a pl E. I love Miss, but he's not at this point.
He's not selling a pl E. Like he's great and people want to see
him and people love to see him and interact with him, but he's not
selling a pl E like the card. He'll be on the card for,
you know, But Logan Paul will sell a pl like. He will sell
it to the base of people who are just fleetingly familiar with it. He
will get kids to get their parents to sign up for Peacock and everything else
just to watch this. Oh, like it is crazy. Like my six
year old daughter knows what a prime bottle is and she shouldn't. You know.
I'm not a Logan Paul fan for among the reasons stuff. But the
guy and his team they do a great job of getting him out there and
stuff. I will say we never talked about this in any of the night
reviews. The prime bottle in the Miller ring was not as bad as I
thought it was going to be. I was. I was happy they didn't
do the colored version. If they did the color of the blue and red,
I think we were screwed. The black and white version that was that
was fine. If they can keep him like that. I know you had
I was gonna say, I give you a moment before we end off with
the many of the Bank. You had a problem with probably more of the
other promotional stuff because the ring and the aprons and the barricades. They changed
her out the whole match and we got wings do what was that thing?
Was dude meet or something like that, or dude it's it's dude wipes.
It's it's male flushable toilet wipes, male flushable toilet wipes. I don't know
why that's needed, but uh, it was so funny, like Drew's having
this moment, he's just won the title and he's standing there and over shoulder
his dude wipes and that's where it's like, like, I don't like it
at all. But it's much like we have on giek Verse. You pay
the bill, so I completely get that, right, but I do agree
with you sometimes it was a bit much. But yeah, what was uh
what were your opinions on because this was the most we've ever seen promotional wise
on w ring and around. This is the most we've ever seen it.
I did find it funny though, that they have both Prime and C four
sponsors and they are both energy drinks. That that is hilarious to me.
I'm like a pick a lane, but it I'm used to. Okay,
for the last probably year and a half or so, they've been having one
sponsored match. Triple h just announced it the official entergy drink of WE.
So just to your point, it's like they have a Prime bottle, but
they just like I thought for sure Prime would be it because they're already that
way with UC right, so I thought, oh t k o UFC.
I thought we're sure gonna get some Prime announcement. But I guess C four
paid more money because that's funny. Yeah, just announced three minutes ago Triple
hys for is the official entry drink of WWE. So yeah, see,
you know, I'm used to one match being a sponsored match, you know,
the slim gym match and things like those French last year when you had
a father beat his child during Cinnamental's crime during during serial time. Yeah,
so I'm used to it being one but every single match, and then I
do need somebody in their corporate office to kind of look and see which matches
they choose, because now this is me being someone who's biracial. You're having
having the all black women's mat be the match sponsored by the Wing Place,
and then having the Latino match be the one sponsored by a Mexican Some people
brought that up again tonight to Gin and Juice for the Pride and everything like
that, but I guess, like to be that one wasn't as bad because
like, and I can't speak white white bread guy over here, but that
was just because where else would you put Snoop on the card? Right?
For me, that one was like, I don't want him out there.
I guess you could do something fun with him in La a Night, but
I don't want him out there for Bailey and EO. I don't want him
out there for Seth and Drew, and I don't want him out there for
the main I guess you could have fit him in the Logan pol too,
like they could have, so they could have, but I guess that was
the prime one, right, So you couldn't have him do Gin and Juice,
and you can't I guess you can't do light Night, right because he's
the slim gym guy, right, So that one made sense. But the
ones yesterday were a bit like red flag, like like no one, no
one saying, just swap them and it's fixed, you know, Yeah,
seriously, that that is all that needs I if you're gonna do it,
okay, but just kind of look at the optics of when you're doing it
and maybe switch it up. And my feeling about it is, if you
want to do it on the mid card match is fine. I don't think
for a Cody match or something like that, you you need the sponsorships.
Just leave that off. Let those moments be those moments, because when we
look back on those pictures and we look back on everything, to see those
sponsorships around the ring is a little bit like that's that's not the memory that
that you want of that. I felt like even on purpose tonight when he
kissed the mat his knee, he kissed the mat over the prime Well,
like I felt like last night he went to kiss him. I was like,
oh, I'm already here, But I I just thought it was a
conscious effort. Maybe I read completely into that, but just felt like for
the big match, the title match, he's gonna be past the prime bottle
and kiss the ring, you know. So yeah, I get it,
So yeah, it it. I think it also depends on the color too,
because like I think that wing spot, I can't remember which one was
white, and it was just it was bright. It was like almost glare.
And was like, Okay, this is not taking me out, but
it is distracting. And I think that's where it was because super super the
wings one was super super bright, and I was just like wow. And
then finally for the match that you talked a little bit about but I haven't,
and then we'll just theorize a bit more. Uh, we have Seth
and Drew. Yeah, like you said right away, God, why am
I forgetting that Drew's finished? What the hell is the kick? Oh?
God, Claymore kick? Yeah hit him off that five seconds? I thought,
yeah, we're gonna Daniel Bryan Shamus situation. Uh, but we didn't.
They were going finish her heavy fast. I joked in the discord it
was like a Brock match. We're brock near. Dan was just like,
it's either a German and that's it. Uh Sam, I drink woo energy
like an adult. Oh there we go, thank you. As bubs Prime,
it's a hydrogen not hydration, not hydrogen. Prime has hydrogen in the
bottom. No, Prime's hydration, not energy. Okay. There was there
was a lawsuit that they could not call themselves an energy drink. Oh is
that why? Yes, they cannot legally call themselves an energy drink. Okay,
So that's why one is the official hydrogen or a hydra Oh my god,
it's getting late hydration drink, and the other is the official energy drink.
I guess. So okay, there you go. Fine, I understand
now, that's sure. Sure, Jan, whatever you want to tell.
But yeah, so Drew and said they're going crazy. They're both hing pedigrees,
which you know Seth twice goes for the pedigree on his bad knees a
little questionable, but whatever he does it. I thought this was good.
I thought this was I get what they were going for because it felt like
I'm not saying they were cut on time. But I guess we've gone matches
with them before and this is probably not the last one, so I was
fine with it being a little different enough. I usually don't love the finisher
off. I don't love the video game matches where it is just I know
people might laugh because like I watch AW but like even some stuff in AAW
that it goes past a point right where it's like, yeah, this is
too much. So I that was a bit much. But I think it
was fine with Seth being injured with what they wanted to do with Drew,
so they went heavy on that Drew got the win, and I did not
think that was gonna happen. I thought Seth was gonna get the win.
I think that even add to Cody winning later because they added that, like,
well Seth was scrutiny loss, so Cody. I was sold though,
when Seth did that moment of saying, you know you fucking deserve and they
had this moment they're both head nodding, which I love because Drew's kind of
like a tweeener and Seth respects him. I didn't think the cash was happening
then because it was like it was like a nice moment of like, okay,
they're letting Drew. Drew stood us this moment. He gets to win
finally in a crowd on some fucking warehouse. Good for him. He gets
the big pop, great moment with his wife when he got on his knee
and like presented her the championship, Like that was just really cool. And
then much like Roman, out of the corner of his eye he sees him
Punk and he cannot help himself. He gets on the table saying good stuff
of like here took a photo of this. I want to remember this forever,
Like it was so good. He's mouthing off of Punk and he's like
Punk's like I can't hear you. I got cans on. Like the old
back and forth was so good. Punk was so great during that whole exchange,
just sitting back there like it keep on tucking. I did like Drew
slow turn, he celebrates it, and then he just serious and turns and
looks. I did get kind of weirded out when he slid the title on
the table and then start crawling across the table. Yeah, there was like
some there's gonna be some fan thick now seeing Punk and drumac in time that
was very sense was moving. I was like, what what in the erotic
thriller is going on here? And he's obsessed with Punk though, right,
so maybe he is. He's truly obsessed. He wants Punk in many different
ways because even last week it wasn't the same. But remember when Seth walked
across him or found him backstage and he was just he had his leg up
and his kill was up everything. Like I think Drew is on purpose now
making his character have some sexual vibes, which is not what I would envision,
like, oh, any little gold dust in my character, Like,
do not want my vision? But it does, like it becomes memorable,
right because when he's crawling, you're like, what the fuck is about to
happen here? Like what's going on? Yeah, so it was weird,
but yes, see him Punk coming out and then seeing Punk's face during the
entire cash in was just hilarious. Oh, legendary shot of he's yeah,
he takes his arm thing off, he's being dropped with it, he's kicking
him and then seeing Punk they have it to his back and he's being drew
back and tire up and then the music goes off and the camera swings around
to see him Punk and then seem Punk just smiles because it's it's exactly I
was wrong about Seth, that I was wrong on Gunther, But I did
say this morning, I said, if Drew wins, I think the setup
is and I thought they could do with Seth. Two is Drew like Punk
screws him over, and that's what was great. It is like Punk smiles
and he goes back to kicking him. It was like a, oh what
I do. It was like a yeah, screw you, buddy, like
you got in my face and I cost you the title of the moment,
and that was that's like such a Punk move. And it goes towards their
feud like man Drew and Punk, that match is gonna be. That's gonna
feed families, as they say. But we talked about also this morning.
I think s pubs he couldn't join us still be on the next episode whenever
we do that, if we do a bonus won't get him on there.
So we get his thoughts. But we all said that if Damien cash in
and loses, you gotta split Judgment day because they are it's like what else
do you do? You're looking weak? But they gave the big man.
The big Man for Puerto Rico came in there. I'm goshing right now,
this big whatever choke let's sit out chokeslam. I guess he does. He
does that to Drew gets the one two three. He held on it for
ten months. Uh, David, you you thought it was gonna happen tomorrow.
So it's happened twenty four hours earlier. But uh, what did you
think about the actual cashion and also Damien Priests the world airweight champion. How
are you feeling about that? I'm okay with it again. I knew it
was gonna happen. I thought they were gonna give Drew a little bit more
time to bask in the glory of his win. But I mean, technically,
it's still a win. It still goes on the book. He's still
people. Yeah, he got to experience it. He got to cheer for
a good solid three four minutes with the crowd and everything else. He got
to present it to his wife and everything before they took it away. I
did love the cash in. I love the image of Judgment Day at the
end, looking strong again, him and Ria both holding the world heavyweight titles
for raw, So it's going to be a good Monday night for the Judgment
Day. And I think it leaves something strong. So if Cody is going
to SmackDown or however they're going to do it with the draft coming up in
a month, you know, if he does end up staying on SmackDown,
then you leave someone strong. You leave Judgment Day running raw and looking strong
and doing so. Yeah, I was really happy the whole Judgment Day was
out there. One I thought that was actually a genuine moment when they all
just hugged at the stage, Like it didn't feel like one of those like
I'll get out, Like it felt like this was like a their very happy
for them and it seemed like they're all friendly. I just mean like they
just took a moment, not even to play the cameras. It was just
them hugging for five seconds. You couldn't see it in their faces. It's
like, this doesn't make necessarily good TV for like, oh, you need
the perfect shot, but it makes great TV for Oh, you can feel
this is a big moment for them, and it's great them all behind them
posing and stuff that there's a great shot of Rhiann him to hold up the
titles. So yeah, I think this is the juice that needs especially I'm
hoping Seth maybe Ghoest takes a little break, you know, like has some
has some time to recoup, because that guy's been working hard. But I
could see whether it's backlash. I could see it could go many ways because
Drew is a tweeter, right, you could easily make them semi more babyface.
But I think you're gonna get at least Seth and Drew or Seth and
Damien, And I wonder I'm not sure if you agree, but I think
the play might be as long as he resigns that Drew. I could see
Drew beating Damien at the Clash a cap. I could see it going there.
And my prediction is this is bold, like a year out almost,
but I'm gonna say that Punk is going to beat Drew at the Royal Rumble
for the title, and Seth's gonna win the Royal Rumble. That way,
Punk only has to hold the title for a month and a half. They'll
make sure he doesn't wrestle so he doesn't get injured or anything like that.
They'll play it real safe, and then I think you could have Seth and
Punk next year and you get Seth to beat him. That's how he gets
the title back. But what do you think is who do you think is
challenge them's first? And then what do you do you think? Uh,
is that the match at to Clash the Castle Damien and Drew or do you
think it's gonna be some other combination. Oh, it's it's gotta be Damion
and Drew at Class the Castle. I mean I think that that is going
to be. They gave Drew the WrestleMania spot with the crowd because he didn't
have his before, but the actual coronation is going to be at Clash of
the Castle. That pop is going to be tremendous. I mean, look
at what happened last year in the ovation that they got at Class to the
Castle. Now this one being in Scotland, it's going to be chess crazy
loud. So I think that's gonna be his coronation. I think he's gonna
chase for a while, but that's gonna be it. I'm not sure where
you go with your first challenger to Damien right now? Yeah, because I
guess it could be Seth though, right because if he just lost, that
would be weird to have Seth go before Drew. It depends on how injured
Seth really is, and if him and Becky are gonna take some time off,
just go off be with their daughter for a while. Not being on
the road also gonna you remember, if we got the draft, they could
just have Damien mess around for a little bit and then someone from SmackDown come
over and get a shot or something like that. Right, yeah, you
know, I find if it's just a random we're gonna do a fatal four
way on some raw and it's just like a new story. I'm completely fine
if right away it's not true or Seth because I'm so happy the rematch clause
thing is gone because that was always such a clutch for WW and Vince because
he loved rematches. I'd be fine if it was we're gonna take four guys,
put him in a match, and then just get because you know,
Damian's not gonna like I'm sorry, Damon's not main eventing backlash. That's gonna
be Cody, right, So it's not like Damien has to have like the
hottest angle where Clash of Castle he can and it's like Chamber. We're like
Ria is a bad guy. But if you have her go up against Naya,
she's another bad guy. So it's the same thing as Drew and Damien,
where Drew's like a bad guy, but he gets to be the baby
face at Clash of Castle. Right. Yeah, and right now, you've
got a month to the draft. There's gonna be some call ups. This
is the perfect time to do some type of tournament just to fill your month.
You don't have to have any title defenses really up until after the draft.
Just have some type of tournament to fill your month for a number one
contender and let that be at just a nice little placeholder or even like I
know they haven't done this before, but just have the person who wins King
of Rings so you also get a world tile shot too, and that would
be to me, I'd want that more than the fucking crown. They did
that, I don't know if they did that multiple times, but remember that's
how Brock got it in two thousand and two. He'd beat rob and that's
how he got to the Rock, and that's why it made sense for Hey,
how does this guy who's been around for under six months get a title
shot? Well, he won a tournament, right, so if someone wins,
and I guess that's probably pretty far right because that's may I guess later
may so. But even then I'm talking about for other potential contenders, just
have that the person wings King Ring, they get the trophy, they get
the bag, and they also got a shot Damien and have some have like
Chad Gable win King of the Ring and have like a really underdog match where
he gets close to winning the world title or something. You know. So,
but yeah, I'm very curious. Raw and Now is super hot because
Cody says he's gonna be on both shows, so that's gonna happen. Drew,
I think he's gonna cut a fantastic promo tomorrow. I cannot wait.
And then he's like cut a fantastic promo the next week because he's gonna have
that all in footage, and man, Drew just can't wait. He's salvating
that we're getting a Damien and whatever judgment day fall up there, so that'll
be good. Seth. I think could give a take as if he's on
RAW or not, like he said, I could see him taking just some
time off right off the hop that like both him saying that to drew and
shaking Cody's hand felt like a almost like a goodbye for now and then have
him come back and get hot. I think he might do an actual not
farewell but see you down the road on raw. I think that could come
from uh seth actually coming out and tons, Hey, I've been working injured.
I was a workhorse champion. I did my best elevate this champion to
give you guys a fighting champion. Now at someone else's turn, I'm gonna
go away for a while, get healed up, but I promise you I'm
coming back for this belt. Yeah exactly, I'll get it. I'll get
better, I'll get stronger. And what is the what the hell's the stupid
two nicknames, the revolutionary or whatever. I hate the visionary visionary. I
hate cool entrance to you. I forgot, we forgot about that. But
cool entrance with all the banded people and the war's waldvile situation. But uh
yeah no that was cool. But yeah, Damien, Hey, congrats to
Damien. He was what pegged is one of those guys I was maybe gonna
lose it, you know. I think people even said that the press or
a few minutes I saw I was like, I didn't even know if he
said I didn't know if I was gonna have a job here at one point,
you know, during Judgment day. So and when a long ride for
Judgment day is starting with him rihann edge to all where it is now,
and I hope, like, let Damien run for a little bit. You
have Cody as the top guy. Damien doesn't have to carry the company.
He doesn't have to be like, of course you want a guy to move
merch and tickets and everything, but like, let him, let him run.
I hope it's not like a edge first cash in where Damien has it
backlash, he gets beat and then it's over right, Like I actually would
prefer if he held the clash of the castle and let him have a run,
because then you know he's dependable. Either he has a great run and
you go, hey, in the future, we could do this again,
or it's ah, you know, this is not really Damien's SWI he is
a better, more middle ground. You know. I don't want to say
B plus player, but you know, could be right. So this is
because if you give him a month, I'm not gonna do anything. Cody's
on top. Cody's fine. I don't think, well, do you think
we have any direction as far as too good lenge Cody first Tomorrow? I
feel like tomorrow's just Cody celebration time tomorrow on's speech. I don't know if
there's like, I don't think they set anything up really, I I'm not
sure if they set anything up right now. If they do, I'm prayingus
Gunther right off the hap eh Gunther comes out and it eats some night one.
I want him to be a I want his first challenge to be a
strong challenge. I don't want it to be a situation where his first that
this doesn't need to be a Hey, I beat Big Show in a dark
match as my first dawn Mysterio wins a turn, who wins a battle oil
and gets the first shot at Cody. Yeah, I agree, because that
is for all people that are massive Bloodline fans and Rowan fans. That is
the biggest thing. People said, well, you don't want to take the
title off Rowing because the story is so good, you don't want to end
it. You do not want to make Cody's run. And I trust in
Triple H and everybody. If this was Vince, I wouldn't because even you're
to that point. Remember when Daniel Bryan, I think his first challenger was
like Caine after Wrestle Maine and the thirty Right, It's like Caine, like
this is the best we got for him right now is like corporate Kane and
like he switched back and forth like you need somebody believable but strong. Obviously
they don't think they're gonna win. But that is the biggest challenge from the
now is they have to make maybe not better than the bloodline, but they
have to keep him as interesting as a character as Roman. Now you can't
have it feel like a step down. And if I agree, if it's
like a big show a dom A jd even like it to me like this,
I hate saying like even if it's a Finn Balor because I could see
fen Baler come out to more and being like, oh my brother Damien has
a belt and now I gotta get a belt too, Like you gotta get
somebody, and if it is Finn, okay, but then the challenges you
gotta heat this fucking guy up. I actually think it could be some sort
of babyface and in my mind, I guess they want to do Logan and
Randy. But I would also I would just pivot and have you do,
have Randy do the heel turn soon around later, because that's a story that
you got at least four to six months and Cody and Randy is like that
gets you a while because there's so much to pick apart there. So and
if you're gonna do the Cody and Randy, let it simmer. Let have
some heat that builds up, bring back some of the old stories and things
like that, because that would be my fear. If this was the Vin's
error, then Cody would win it and then tomorrow night Randy would be challenging
him and he gets beat by a WWE homegrown talent. Yeah, just just
to be like, just remember we're better. Yeah, just like Stinging triple
h. Right. I watched the resume not too long a couple or last
weekend. That was that situation where he just forced to be WW versus WCW.
And but we are in a new era, I can say that,
And that's the best thing where this does feel they give you no excuse now
and even peel like myself where it's like, oh well there's this, well
there's this. They did multiple great things this weekend on both nights. I
think they they really did. I think our great job of capturing new fans
and capturing people like myself because I will now I started watching more raws and
smackdowns since probably Rumble because when Cody won, I was getting hyped up.
And it's been good with the rock and everything. But now, and that's
what happens. You get my money, now, you get my attention,
you get me by e merge where I haven't full time watched since twenty nineteen,
and I think a lot of us around that time maybe if you still
watch full time, you weren't as invested. I still think that's how aw
became because people just needed a break from the Vince era, right, And
this does feel we forgot to mention. Stephanie came out said it's a Pauloveck
era put him over huge. You know, it's great to see her back.
Deaf Rebel destroyed her theme song, but that's a topic for another day
when they will do a full topic on Deaf Rebel and what they've done.
But I think this was all around. I don't know where ranks as far
as WrestleMania's but as far as best weekends or just days for WWE. This
is a top tier, top five one as far as success quality and just
I imagine growth. I imagine they got a lot of people with them here
in a past era they might have not been able to and I think this
is a good start. I'm ready. I'm ready for this ride. I'm
excited to see what they can do. I don't need the Attitude era.
I need whatever this new era is. Show me what else you can do.
And I like that to Ara, but I just mean, like,
I don't need I like that they're swearing blood, but I don't need those
things. When it comes down to is great characters and stories. They got
that now. So yeah, David, what are your final thoughts on this
weekend? And ww and the whatever they air will be Paul of that renaissance,
But what are your thoughts on this whole weekend? I'm hoping that they
continue in this this error, they continue to implore a lot more wrestling along
with their entertainment and make wrestling entertaining, and you know that that's that's what
I want to see and that's what's going to bring me in it. For
the longest time, I used to tell people, you know, Wednesday Nights
was the one wrestling show I had to watch live. So there's like I
can catch on replay or I can next day see this, get to see
some YouTube clips or whatnot. But now I'm like, man, I need
to see what's going to happen on Monday. Like I I that's going to
be my premium watching now and I'm excited for that. On a odd note,
I think this goes down as the first ww event where we saw a
contracted a W employee in the ring. Who is in the ring? Negative
one? Right, you technically saw a contracted ae W employee. Oh right.
That that's a great loophole. That's that's fantastic. You know, that's
great. And you know what, I love wrestling fans, even their most
happiest moment, they can still sometimes just be bitter fucks. The fact that
Bruce Pitcher when he started to walk down, some people booed. It's like,
man, it's just everyone celebrated Cody won him down there. We didn't
even talk about that triple H. That Triple H fully nighted him. That
was like, to me, it is like Cody's his guy, that this
is the you know, Vincent Austin, not the feud wise, but I
mean, like that's gonna be his star for the next Cody says he's not
retire at forty. I think the age is forty five. That's seven years.
To me, that's like three years to be the guy, three years
to put over a new town, and then one year to do this sendoff.
And I'm not saying he has to go by forty. I'm just saying
like that to me is like a guy be on top at seven years,
Like Stone Colb was only on top for like three and then he got injured.
Right. It's like not saying the shelf life, but like wrestling is
tough, so it's not like him being past forty as a oh man,
that's only a few years. It's like, no, like some of the
best were only on top for even rock, Like I'd say he got his
hottest, hottest at ninety nine and he was out of there at oh two,
you know. So it's just like in our minds because we used to
watch it weekly, it feels like so much longer, but really it was
a couple of years and then there's a new top guy, right, So
I feel like even if we were to retire at forty, that's still two
to three years from now. That's enough time to be the guy set up
new people. And if you look at fucking NXT, they got to crop
a really good people come their way, Like look at Trick and Carmelo already
like that too, right there, that's like a one a one B of
guys that could be the next gen. Right so I think, and we
reviewed anxst T. You can go check that out previously this morning. But
that's why overall, in general, I think they just they hit a home
run and wherever the ball went, they ran. They hit it again and
hit another home run. Like they just they they cleared. And that's saying
the same thing. The last point is not every Ron SmackDown is gonna be
amazing, not every match is gonna be amazing, but if you can get
the overall package to be send people home happy or intrigued, then that's what
you gotta do. And yeah, Sam, like that thing when you said,
you know, make you want to start watching, I would say,
next Raw, give it a shot. I'm not sure if you've watched,
We'll go back and watch wrestle meanings. But and this is like I said,
coming from me that I stopped in twenty nineteen. I went cold Turkey.
I said I'd watched like the Big Four or five, maybe a pay
per view if it intrigued me. Before Cody came back, like I'd say,
give a chance, because it does feel I'm not saying everything's perfect,
but it feels like they are. This does feel like the beginning of something
new, which is very exciting to be because that I haven't I don't know
when that's God, I don't know last time that really happened. You could
argue I guess twenty one with Batist and Sina, I guess that is.
But like I was so young, I didn't have that cognizant like we talked
about before with Brian and other things. It wasn't a new era that was
just, hey, this guy's shamp for a bit. This feels like this
is something different. Wrestling feels fresh again. It feels absolutely fresh. It.
It also feels like which is the best example, because what you don't
want, you don't want. Hay watched wrestling, and then there's like you
watch wrestling. It does like I know the Rock has said it, but
it does feel cool again, and I'm not saying like, oh sorry,
I'll take that back. WWE feels cool again. There's been times where New
Japan aw wrestling has been cool, but WWE hasn't been fully cool in many
years. They've had cool things and cool superstars, but to be overall,
there was always a sense of man, Yeah, they got a lot of
bad stuff going on there, and it's because the guy was ripping up scripts
like two minutes before showtime. You can't plan them that way, you know.
So, yeah, this was a fun weekend. I think s Pubsy
couldn't be here for this one, but he'll be on the next episode whenever
we do that. Thank you do for we just did the first episode a
couple of weeks ago, but I thank you for joining me for this one
and then the one earlier. This was lots of fun because this, for
me, I'm much more enjoying having you guys to talk wrestling with on air
and talk about theories and stuff, and yeah, this was this was a
good time. Yeah, no, I definitely agree. It's it's good to
get my full thoughts out there with someone else rather than just blowing up Twitter.
Oh yeah, Twitter, or bottle up. And before we go,
I will find the final ranking. SBUB has the score somewhere for our draft.
I forgot to update this this morning, but I will update. Uh
where is it? There's a point by somewhere. But at least, David,
you had a very rough night one. Night two was good for you
because Damien got that cash and so Damien I think saved you. I think
S Pubs is in the lead right now. I have to find. Oh,
here it is. So it's oh ahad no, I just found the
same time you did. Yeah, So it's S Pubs in first place at
thirty eight because he did Cody in two mains. He had coded in the
toil. He had a lot of people and tonight myself at thirty at second
place and David at twelve. But that is good considering you were like negative
eight at one point. Like, I think that's a really good place to
be where at one point you were you were looking it was a rough night
one Again, we're going until we've decided to elimination chamber. That's gonna be
the end point because not ener rospect and so we got you know, this
is the first week out of the fifty two years or fifty years or fifty
years fifty weeks. But uh yeah I was. I was happy with my
people, but yeah, Damien got he brought you back, you know.
Yeah, And I just need Damion to rock that thing for a while and
they need our truth. Not a night one lost and we're all wrestleman Drew
or a fresh seam punk. He's like, oh, I'm cleared. And
then GTS one, two three. Yeah, if you're going to lose to
someone, I need to lose to someone else on my list. That's what
we're all hoping for. So yeah, the competition has begun, the draft
all of them points here. We will see what happens. So yes,
thank you everyone that listen. Thank you to all sixty seven of you watch
right now the very fun time. Yeah, I'm excited to see what happens.
Not sure when the next episode will be. Like I said, we
talked about maybe either later on this week or early next week. We might
do a bonus one because of you know, depending what happens with all on
footage and other stuff. So we'll and the same thing we're on smack and
they could be fire. So as usual, just fallow geek first Twitter or
go on our discord and we'll announce a couple of days ahead because that was
right. Now it's monthly, but yeah, this is a good time.
Thank you every much for everybody tuned in. Promise you when you hear from
us next, it'll not be boring.