1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,600 We left the morning of this ninety- six liens and today we have a 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,000 visit from a clown and don' t think he was some political leader. 3 00:00:07,679 --> 00:00:12,720 We' ve got a good friend from the show over here. Or I 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:18,120 saw it on TV about fifteen years ago, right, fifteen not, when 5 00:00:18,199 --> 00:00:22,879 I started watching and Eduardo and I were your fans, your followers and when 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,519 I had the hashtag that I watch local TV, of course your show. 7 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,039 If you don' t make a mistake on Saturdays on the 25th Channel in 8 00:00:30,039 --> 00:00:34,079 Santiago, the house in Paami' s house sees me welcome arrit in the 9 00:00:34,079 --> 00:00:39,960 morning or there we follow the rich, but in the morning you know what 10 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,280 is most incredible than us and that I say it with all the onestity. 11 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:48,479 We relaxed the television. It was with that hashtag and we started with the 12 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,039 children' s programs that they gave in the morning we started with those of 13 00:00:51,039 --> 00:00:55,600 Santiago. There were twenty- nine of you on Union TV There were still 14 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,200 two of you. It was hard. Sometimes that one from the Union, 15 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:03,079 the clown was waving the little garages. Of course. You did love the 16 00:01:03,159 --> 00:01:08,799 child' s father. Please, all please come. I' ll go 17 00:01:08,799 --> 00:01:14,760 there. I wrote to b may what I tell you is incredible that with 18 00:01:14,799 --> 00:01:17,319 the passage of time, which is one, he thinks that there are people 19 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,560 who come by if he stays because it makes you fifteen years ago yes, 20 00:01:21,799 --> 00:01:23,760 and twelve years already on television sometimes felt with the program the little house of 21 00:01:25,079 --> 00:01:27,840 paamin yes and then good. You' ve kept yourself high and low here. 22 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:33,239 People may not know, but they also organize events and work with brands 23 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:38,200 in the Cibado region and how many days when you take off Payaso' s 24 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,959 suit. He' s one of the best animators in Tarima I' ve 25 00:01:42,079 --> 00:01:45,760 ever seen in my life. Oh thank you, thank you when one to 26 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,560 Clown, when Clown satiate over there. But the luck of me that I 27 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:49,760 ' m getting out of there if I get paid, is another one that 28 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,640 avoids us and they do it for free and he told me but if you 29 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,879 have to pay him you know what piga looks at heart. It' s 30 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,840 the opportunity you give me thanks to you and I have a photo that needs 31 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,640 to be recreated. About six years ago I had my first nomination to the 32 00:02:01,719 --> 00:02:06,040 sovereigns and we took a really cool picture that when I came to the show, 33 00:02:06,519 --> 00:02:07,680 you weren' t there, but you' re going to put on 34 00:02:07,759 --> 00:02:10,080 an equiita, even if it' s like a doll, so you' 35 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,759 re three things look. Now we have a new project called Paamin and its 36 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,759 magical courtyard, a show for the whole family that we think also brings here 37 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:21,560 Santo Domingo. That' s why we' re doing the publicity here too, 38 00:02:21,719 --> 00:02:23,879 because we' re going to be in Chivaba theater on July 11th and 39 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:28,120 12th. It' s a show that leads to working on many values. 40 00:02:28,199 --> 00:02:31,599 You know what the North is missing a lot. We, as parents and 41 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,439 also as animators, as clowns and in my case, as a teacher, 42 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,319 have lost the North why. Because the situation is very difficult for parents, 43 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:44,039 the war right now of a dad being a real dad and working on values 44 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,319 and having a child as he wants and as he wants the war. It 45 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,520 ' s very difficult to face. You' re a teacher. Yeah, 46 00:02:50,599 --> 00:02:52,439 of course I think it' s yearning in the salula. Now I' 47 00:02:52,439 --> 00:02:58,000 m seven years retired because I understood that I should either decide or because I 48 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,240 ' m going or because of the professor and Joan. I taught at the 49 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,120 most expensive schools in Santiago. I mean, by the way da Vinci Dominicano 50 00:03:02,199 --> 00:03:07,560 Oliberia the sacred because one is many people obliographies q professor of geography, that 51 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:12,199 is, when I didn' t learn that if you know that I the 52 00:03:12,199 --> 00:03:16,240 most recess to help me what matter I didn' t know that yes of 53 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:21,599 course you do know what happens to me that people when I see a clown, 54 00:03:21,759 --> 00:03:23,520 you just realize that you are derogatory. That' s a clown He 55 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,800 ' s gonna suck. This is a clown because you have to ask where 56 00:03:28,039 --> 00:03:30,639 the disdain for clowns is born, that is, the degenerative mex r is 57 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,719 disdain. Yeah, I understand,' cause you' re born, you 58 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,039 start thinking about court jesters, for example, what you know that everything to 59 00:03:38,199 --> 00:03:40,520 do. Thank you and it' s nano in that case that maybe they 60 00:03:40,599 --> 00:03:44,599 had a disability was that they used it for that, because now that you 61 00:03:44,639 --> 00:03:47,479 can' t tell people anything, you know that all people or it' 62 00:03:49,039 --> 00:03:52,840 s offended that the word right now therapy is the one that' s going 63 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:53,479 to end humanity. But let' s go back then. Professor Joan Joan 64 00:03:53,639 --> 00:03:59,000 ' s theme Tell me what the class brings to you, that is, 65 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,400 your teacher classes, but that came first to your life, came to the 66 00:04:03,439 --> 00:04:06,599 theater first in' 90s. I was thirteen years old the theater of the 67 00:04:06,599 --> 00:04:11,319 Church, because I had to introduce myself to the Church. What' s 68 00:04:11,319 --> 00:04:13,560 going on? I am from a field is called cinnamon in Santiago, when 69 00:04:14,039 --> 00:04:16,839 the word of God was presented and they read what they played that day of 70 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,399 the Liturgy. People might understand it, but I saw there was a deficit. 71 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,879 Then I spoke to the father, who was a father of his parents, 72 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,879 totally difficult, Father Anselmo, that he rest in peace and told him 73 00:04:27,879 --> 00:04:30,399 aensemos. You allow me what you' re going to say, the word 74 00:04:30,439 --> 00:04:34,360 I can do to you acting that you gave me to try. These people 75 00:04:34,439 --> 00:04:42,120 whatever they want, they' re not gonna understand anything, or I' 76 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,720 m Alberto' s a father He' s dating a bad father, so 77 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,560 a father of but good people. In the end, then they eat the 78 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,199 word of God. For example, let' s talk about the gifts some 79 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,439 antones that fell, One fell on a stone, others on feltis lands. 80 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,439 So that' s what we were doing to people. After the father read, 81 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,319 I saw that people liked him and we all continued all week rehearsing and 82 00:05:01,399 --> 00:05:05,600 on Sunday we did. Then I arrived in Santiago, in the city. 83 00:05:05,759 --> 00:05:08,639 There' s a field out there that I told you to put them in 84 00:05:08,639 --> 00:05:11,959 Santiago. I came to the city what I' m going to do theater, 85 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,199 which is what I like. Then I' ll talk to you about 86 00:05:14,199 --> 00:05:16,240 studying in Fine Arts. It happened that he was in Fine Arts. I 87 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,399 talked a lot. It was very gecio, perhaps the desire to progress already 88 00:05:20,399 --> 00:05:27,040 forward, but my mom economically did not have enough resources perhaps to pay me 89 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,759 that daily passage of the cinnamon Santiago that was twenty- five pesos and three 90 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,920 pesos a pussy of the one for Fine Arts. When you come to see 91 00:05:33,519 --> 00:05:36,800 more, they would tell me Joan t or you decide for one thing, 92 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,000 but again I can not put Bellas Ate also the University and the University was 93 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:47,000 the wass hear Mommy could not then there I remember that when I entered Bellas 94 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,279 Sate, that I needed a character for a play at that time was Lorenzo 95 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:55,000 Toma Martínez and Lincoln Opera the director. That was in ninety- five and 96 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,759 he was seventeen. In the ninety- six, I couldn' t follow 97 00:05:58,759 --> 00:06:02,000 Fine Arts anymore because I didn' t have and I' m the one 98 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,759 who called the Brunette, who talks a lot that I love for a character 99 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:10,279 I don' t teach I can' t go on anymore because I don 100 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,120 ' t have to be here and you know people how to explain to him, 101 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:12,120 and Lincoln Lopez told me they don' t come to the theater. 102 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,560 I have to get a job for you to work in protocol and so you 103 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,399 can then start the process of being teaching, that is, taking classes in 104 00:06:19,399 --> 00:06:24,759 fine arts and also having a livelihood to come every day to class, but 105 00:06:24,759 --> 00:06:27,199 you no longer responded to the stuff you gave. But either stay out there, 106 00:06:27,319 --> 00:06:28,959 I mean, there' s eighteen, because I have to take it 107 00:06:28,959 --> 00:06:31,879 back. We' re on foot we' re pulling that off now your 108 00:06:31,879 --> 00:06:34,079 tallinco garangate. I think it' s all clear, you' re getting 109 00:06:34,079 --> 00:06:39,439 a little quote. Yes, yes gas so and heart and now I have 110 00:06:39,519 --> 00:06:42,480 the red pipette that I say to your bare back. So that' s 111 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,399 where your day at the was you gave me your bookkeeping day and then gave 112 00:06:45,519 --> 00:06:49,839 you the magisterium. I entered the class in the year two thousand and three 113 00:06:49,959 --> 00:06:55,720 in the daVinci Literature and Arts. And that' s already why you realize 114 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,439 when I write, I write a little bit with good nods and wawk that 115 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:00,639 men almost don' t. No. No. No. The man who 116 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,920 writes correctly always gets him wearing a wig, I wear it, but Payaso 117 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:12,279 ' s going to the event. Great forgiveness, sorry what the tail got 118 00:07:12,319 --> 00:07:17,040 hold of. Hey, he' s got to get hold of her Go 119 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:21,319 talk to me. Here' s an event coming up in the city of 120 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:26,360 Santiago already listens to us enough people per channel one hundred and five and here 121 00:07:26,879 --> 00:07:28,279 in the capital will also bring this event. You were talking about something. 122 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,519 It caught my attention that you focused on that, because I thought most of 123 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:38,600 society. He was not paying attention to the enemies they are facing at the 124 00:07:38,759 --> 00:07:42,720 time of raising their children as they understand. And you' re very aware 125 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,879 of that. And the question that arises to me what led you to become 126 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,519 aware of that, what made you wake up to call it somehow. I 127 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,480 ' m Dad. It is also, by deciemplo, of all parents and 128 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,600 one knows that I was telling you right now that we as well have the 129 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,600 difference now when you were a child that I was a child, my dad, 130 00:08:00,879 --> 00:08:03,120 my mom, your dad, your mom, they worked and tried to 131 00:08:03,199 --> 00:08:07,199 make you happy within their capacity, because their dad might have treated it differently. 132 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,279 So we, when we were kids that made us play or be happy, 133 00:08:11,439 --> 00:08:13,879 because it' s the child' s job. People wanted that the 134 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,120 child has the obligations of not what not my heart, a child is a 135 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,439 child and has to be happy. Here is the only country in the world 136 00:08:20,519 --> 00:08:22,480 Latin America that is a child up to twelve years. In all countries a 137 00:08:22,519 --> 00:08:26,240 mother' s child up to eight years and then at nine years are preteens 138 00:08:26,279 --> 00:08:30,120 and after ten years or a teenager. And you see parents who want a 139 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:31,879 13- year- old boy to act just like an eight- year- 140 00:08:31,879 --> 00:08:35,159 old. Because my child, my herma, is thirteen years old. He 141 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,919 ' s not going to understand you, he' s not going to understand 142 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,960 the process that he' s going through from getting to know himself, knowing 143 00:08:43,279 --> 00:08:46,039 who' s where I' m going to go what I want, Mommy, 144 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:46,440 I still don' t understand why he looks at me badly, because 145 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,360 he looks at me well. Then we, as a father, have an 146 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,240 obligation to strive here at least thirty minutes of twenty- four hours that you 147 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,720 have a day to play with the child, to return the task. I, 148 00:08:54,799 --> 00:09:01,799 as a teacher, I would put him on lipstick Daddy please, check 149 00:09:01,879 --> 00:09:05,759 the notebook on the child, help him do such a task whatever it is. 150 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:09,360 And I assure you, at the end of the school year, that 151 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,919 was just like me. I tell you, and dad didn' t check 152 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:16,679 it because he wanted to, maybe he already wanted to, because he had 153 00:09:16,799 --> 00:09:18,720 the time, maybe he didn' t have it or he didn' t 154 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,399 have it and he couldn' t use it for that moment. Or we 155 00:09:20,519 --> 00:09:22,759 always say. Now give me a chance to wait,' cause day to 156 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:28,559 day is hard. Alberto you know not everyone has the ease of having a 157 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,480 nanny in their house. We haven' t all had the facilities. When 158 00:09:31,519 --> 00:09:33,440 he talks about the fridge, I mean, I have a supermarket in vinaevera. 159 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:39,320 There are many who have a desert and no water even difficult ex. 160 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,240 That' s why we have the ability to ride. This show. It 161 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,879 is given to the 11th and 12th of July, where one plot was written 162 00:09:46,879 --> 00:09:52,159 eleven years ago. The plot is about a neighbourhood where there are five children 163 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,799 playing and everything like children. As I was saying, the child has to 164 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:01,559 be happy and today that happiness we are going to deal with that issue children. 165 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,320 Everything you imagine, everything you dream of, makes it reality. What 166 00:10:05,399 --> 00:10:09,480 ' s the matter? We have a neighbor in every neighborhood, in every 167 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,279 sector, in every residential place, not you alive. There' s a 168 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,240 neighbor that that neighbor on the mark is the grinch. That neighbor is or 169 00:10:16,919 --> 00:10:20,919 that neighbor in your case, which one is your neighbor. You have when 170 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,039 I was the kid, it was my uncle, man that we lived a 171 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,360 street that my life would take the whole family and my uncle was the grins 172 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,320 of everything or I was bas we give me crazy. That bully ended up 173 00:10:31,399 --> 00:10:33,960 sleeping. You think you get gringa, you don' t make bullies. 174 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,799 No. I see a very, very, very isolated life. Or me 175 00:10:37,879 --> 00:10:43,320 what my quiet still is. No. I don' t think so, 176 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,120 and I think that' s what you say. I think kids need this 177 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:52,759 time to play. So, at that stage there' s a book called 178 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:58,879 The Slingshot. The Vice President sent it to me as a gift at that 179 00:10:58,879 --> 00:11:03,320 time, Margarita Sedeño. In that book he talks about us adults, when 180 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,679 we are children, beginning to kill the imagination and through the death of the 181 00:11:07,799 --> 00:11:13,080 imagination, the creativity and the ability to use us and that book what he 182 00:11:13,399 --> 00:11:15,879 is looking for, what he seeks to awaken in ten of that child that 183 00:11:15,919 --> 00:11:20,320 they isolated, that they caged, etcetera. And I think, when I 184 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,159 see children playing me and they spend a lot of time playing, I' 185 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,600 m sure that when they' re teenagers or when they' re adults, 186 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,879 they' re going to have a much more, much greater ability to be 187 00:11:31,879 --> 00:11:33,360 more creative, but also to be able to adapt to changes, that' 188 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,559 s what intelligence really is. So, with the death of creativity, they 189 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,679 limit the intelligence and ability of the individual to adapt. And that really I 190 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,840 defend the space so that the children play I do not bother, on the 191 00:11:43,919 --> 00:11:46,840 contrary, to me What bothers me are the silly little faces, that those 192 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:52,799 annoying and disrespectful, rude. Parents who support this and may be afraid to 193 00:11:52,799 --> 00:11:56,159 correct them. You realize that parents today fear because they do, because they 194 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:03,399 immediately say the psychologist. You can' t correct the child. So remember 195 00:12:03,519 --> 00:12:07,399 that then the child can get into depression. And if the child goes into 196 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,360 depression, you don' t know what he can do, he can threaten 197 00:12:11,639 --> 00:12:13,159 his life, he gets into his room, and he can' t do 198 00:12:13,159 --> 00:12:16,639 anything. Don' t let your child have confidence in other children don' 199 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,879 t have confidence in you, so don' t talk bad about my love. 200 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,399 But we' re gonna fix a guy. Here we have a psychiatrist 201 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,679 who collaborates with us regularly and he is very critical of him. He says 202 00:12:26,279 --> 00:12:31,639 that the great problem of younger generations has been the psychologicalization of parenting. And 203 00:12:31,759 --> 00:12:37,360 so says a psychiatrist who has studied more than not all of us and is 204 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,240 very critical of this and this attitude that everything is a therapy, that everything 205 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,600 is a conversation with a third person who doesn' t know you. And, 206 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,799 well, I' m not an expert on that subject, but I 207 00:12:48,799 --> 00:12:52,840 think we' re in the generation where people decide not to build bridges with 208 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,559 their children. Let' s do it Look. To finish the concept of 209 00:12:54,840 --> 00:13:00,600 the father. I really try to be on top of saying things to people, 210 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,759 because people don' t understand that we, as teachers, as clowns, 211 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,679 as educators, as people who work with children, always have the desire 212 00:13:07,039 --> 00:13:13,440 for better things. As a father, you have to face it. There 213 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,720 are times when you say I want my child to be a reflection of my 214 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,840 lie. Your kids aren' t going to be a reflection of the kind 215 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,720 you want or the kind you try or the parents who want to live what 216 00:13:22,799 --> 00:13:24,799 their dreams didn' t get through their life to hear the best baller. 217 00:13:26,639 --> 00:13:28,759 It' s going to be my son, which seems to me very selfish 218 00:13:28,799 --> 00:13:33,080 too exactly then you have two children and you say the little one, that 219 00:13:33,159 --> 00:13:35,519 boy is terrible, the bigger, the quieter. For that little ones my 220 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:41,320 love cannot be Equals you have the desire of your different concept, different ideas 221 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,320 that was maybe you can have your own blood and yourself, your own genes, 222 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,279 but the concepts, the ideas, the ideals are very different. And 223 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,360 sometimes we say things to children who are very young. You were saying something 224 00:13:50,759 --> 00:13:52,840 right now, which is that we have no respect to bring it up to 225 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,840 people before boys. No, and not just that. I think, I 226 00:13:54,879 --> 00:13:58,639 don' t know to what extent that is problematic, but I can tell 227 00:13:58,639 --> 00:14:03,960 you that there are times there are adults that they don' t get to 228 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,720 the height of the child. They believe that the child gets to the level 229 00:14:05,879 --> 00:14:13,440 of creatures and down and things stories that have marked many people' s losses. 230 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:16,399 For example, I know a case of someone who lost a brother, 231 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,360 but he was a nine- year- old boy and like any child, 232 00:14:20,559 --> 00:14:22,639 he has to continue his life. You don' t understand, you don 233 00:14:22,679 --> 00:14:24,919 ' t know all about loss. He' s sad, he lost his 234 00:14:26,039 --> 00:14:28,639 brother with whom he was born and the brother was there and suddenly, the 235 00:14:28,679 --> 00:14:33,440 brother is gone and the family, as he saw him play and move on 236 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,799 with his life. I was saying if your brother had been the one to 237 00:14:35,799 --> 00:14:37,879 die. I was sad in some corner and I say, but what' 238 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,039 s the use you have to tell a little boy a sheath as cruel and 239 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,360 hard as that and that trauma accompanies that person to this day. Then there 240 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:52,320 are people who really have to give them arsenic. Then, going back to 241 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,679 the story of the grumpy neighbor, I told you that he was a guy 242 00:14:56,759 --> 00:14:58,799 I loved very much but he, who was the people of another time was 243 00:15:00,039 --> 00:15:03,240 very grumpy, grumpy. That' s what you call the Grujon family, 244 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,440 Grullón' s family. He' s fading Grumpy, he' s the 245 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,919 one who breaks your ball, he' s the one who doesn' t 246 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:13,639 want your scandal with you to be asleep, he' s Mrs Carlota, 247 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,000 that' s the icado sylla, so he' s next door. Grullon 248 00:15:15,039 --> 00:15:18,480 becomes the polluter. For example, in one of the scenes in the boys 249 00:15:18,799 --> 00:15:24,919 they try to save a planet from what pollution is. We work hard on 250 00:15:24,919 --> 00:15:28,200 the values, the contaminant, the alien and everything else, and that becomes 251 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:35,440 the contaminant with grumpy taminol. Another story makes the clown smile because there' 252 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,120 s a moment you say, but that cock suchu sangron, doesn' t 253 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,120 laugh or that one. Sir I' m always bored sir? But why 254 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,200 is that gentleman always bored? What marked that lord to make his life sad 255 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:48,600 and his goodness disappear from his soul. So, that' s what we 256 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,399 ' re trying to look for. And there' s also the grumpy neighbor 257 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,799 who always in the end is that he never had a birthday. Never his 258 00:15:56,919 --> 00:15:58,919 dad and his mom may have had the time to dedicate their love and affection 259 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,200 to him and just go out on a birthday. Then we work. That 260 00:16:03,399 --> 00:16:07,279 works out a lot of values. There are one hundred and thirteen people on 261 00:16:07,879 --> 00:16:10,840 the scene We have forty children. Boy talks to the gentleman and back that 262 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:15,000 I' m seeing the room because it' s not me with us gey 263 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:19,759 I don' t even get palmoto acon and how you can handle a two 264 00:16:19,759 --> 00:16:22,200 so many big girls. This you know kids are easier to work with. 265 00:16:22,159 --> 00:16:25,679 If I' m gonna tell you, look at the kid. The first 266 00:16:25,679 --> 00:16:29,000 thing is, you have to stay out of work. Sorry I cursed the 267 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,159 word. Children don' t work. The children collaborate, help in the 268 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,960 trade, Papi and Mames. Even 12 June marks the International Day against Child 269 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:41,360 Labour. If the children collaborate and help Daddy Mommy in the trade because they 270 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:47,320 could not work by law, then we have a group of one hundred and 271 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,519 thirteen children. These kids participate when you explain their role, they' re 272 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:56,039 going to do extremely well and like you said, they were doing a scene 273 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:00,320 and they put a song and there were three drinking water when they and eron 274 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,320 the song, they know that it was up to him to run and they 275 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,039 left the boob in the same theater. Because kids are like that. Now 276 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:11,920 you have to be patient in the person who understands that he has no patience 277 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,160 for children. He can' t be a father if you' re not 278 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,640 clothed with patience, tolerance. Well, don' t be Dad, don 279 00:17:19,759 --> 00:17:22,680 ' t do it for hobby, don' t do it and because Fula 280 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,519 has it he brings it. I can have one. I' m back 281 00:17:25,559 --> 00:17:27,319 to pay for it. You don' t know that when Piter had his 282 00:17:27,559 --> 00:17:30,359 first children Pite I knew him many years ago that Peter was going to be 283 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,839 a complicated father and, on the contrary, the best father, that worker, 284 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:37,200 that employee, that companion, that he works here. No, well, 285 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,119 I thought he was me I said rober Vale. Then I had that 286 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,720 perception that Peter was a guy who didn' t like the best, because 287 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,759 if I was detruded, sheath. But what you say is true, the 288 00:17:47,799 --> 00:17:48,720 one who has no patience for the child who has no child. It can, 289 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,640 it can' t, because it' s that you know that he, 290 00:17:51,759 --> 00:17:53,039 instead of a day, would do an exact damage he was a year, 291 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,759 because it' s that you' re going to end up hitting a 292 00:17:57,839 --> 00:17:59,799 wall so, speaking of patience, parayamin let me ask you a question. 293 00:18:00,599 --> 00:18:03,960 It comes to you they hire you for birthdays and stuff. I understand that 294 00:18:03,079 --> 00:18:11,400 I live from that okay or birthday then it' s not just an Iberian 295 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,240 clown. So what did you do that time you were hired for a birthday 296 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,200 and the kid was afraid of clowns. That happens a lot and not the 297 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:22,039 fear of the clown fear of color. It' s called co so choir 298 00:18:22,079 --> 00:18:25,200 phobia the fear it is. That' s what you did as such, 299 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,519 but it' s not the clown' s fear of the clown, but 300 00:18:27,519 --> 00:18:29,359 the clown' s associated with the colors. You can google it, or 301 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,200 you can google it, what you' re listening to upstairs by morning here 302 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,880 at the OK where the disdain comes from. Yeah, but he talks in 303 00:18:36,799 --> 00:18:38,720 one part of the curo phobia, yeah, that' s it. That 304 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,440 ' s basically what it' s like to be afraid of color, not 305 00:18:41,519 --> 00:18:44,960 the clown, and what you got. It happened to me the first time 306 00:18:45,079 --> 00:18:48,160 hard. I was in the people of Santiago, who are a little bit 307 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,680 low with oil and that car and I came with a balloon full to break 308 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:57,599 on my birthday. I' m talking about that like seventeen year I' 309 00:18:57,599 --> 00:19:02,519 m going with like, but well go very ran I' m going well 310 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:07,039 when I get to some serious pool, because you pris go see his balloon 311 00:19:07,079 --> 00:19:08,400 and the kid saw me you can' t pay you anymore. I' 312 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,839 ve heard it ever since that clown went crazy, or my God, I 313 00:19:14,079 --> 00:19:15,200 ' m on my way over here. I see myself coming with a deca 314 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,599 boot from that yellow pile of that have the tip. So I' ve 315 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,000 stopped my heart on the wall so I can have my turn to make a 316 00:19:22,079 --> 00:19:26,519 globito. The balloon flexes that ante, makes balloon sculpture and when I go 317 00:19:26,519 --> 00:19:29,440 there comes this little girl with that tip of that foot there on her knees. 318 00:19:29,799 --> 00:19:34,400 So that up that skin completes the bloodthirsty. That' s how the 319 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:40,400 boy looks. Then I patiently see her and work out the way she makes 320 00:19:40,599 --> 00:19:45,319 that child my ally in the yow eventually ends up throwing me in the pool 321 00:19:45,319 --> 00:19:51,160 with them. But in order to make it happen, you have to have 322 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,079 to look for the tools, find a way for that kid that you realize 323 00:19:53,160 --> 00:20:00,839 is the terror he has. Therefore the leadership of the group you be friends 324 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,720 with him so that things will be sent. If you don' t watch 325 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,319 birthday year, well for dinner, then you already have a little one. 326 00:20:06,559 --> 00:20:10,519 Before we go, Eduardo has a quick question. You' re part of 327 00:20:10,519 --> 00:20:11,880 the assoping. I' m not from an apadón in this case. Right 328 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:18,359 now I' m Vice President National Nation of National Union of Dominican Clowns and 329 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:22,319 why do it was look at me, what happens those groups. The question 330 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:23,480 before you tell me about the two groups. The question is every time one 331 00:20:23,519 --> 00:20:27,599 of the Clowns. I have to ask this question. Laughter is the famous 332 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:33,160 march that you are going to walk from Santiago pay Way. The creation m 333 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,839 was his song, the creation I did what happened through your mind walking through 334 00:20:37,079 --> 00:20:41,039 the children of Santiago and Huey as far as you got. Mira is a 335 00:20:41,079 --> 00:20:44,160 group of me, from Payaso, a group was called bass, it was 336 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,720 called the Popular Health Brigade. It' s a group you' re in 337 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,039 a hundredfire. You know that the person when one comes I don' t 338 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,480 know if it happens to you when we see him three on TV, on 339 00:20:52,519 --> 00:20:55,880 the radio, say those people have money. Yeah, people associate with TV, 340 00:20:56,519 --> 00:21:00,079 radio, sponsorship money. You can, you can give me what I 341 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,160 asked. The lady of that month comes to me. Look. We have 342 00:21:04,279 --> 00:21:08,319 an inactivity and we need a fridge, a stove and I as much for 343 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,279 the seventy bgada kids and I said in high school as well as I do 344 00:21:11,279 --> 00:21:15,559 that. What I came up with at the time was to start walking. 345 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:21,119 Then I thought that with one person and there came the slogan that was against 346 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:26,279 child abuse, because there we met with the people of wow I lost the 347 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,599 name of but it is blue, not the blue people of Uniset. We 348 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,880 got together, they started giving the data, the details, and they told 349 00:21:34,039 --> 00:21:40,519 me my wife would do it against child abuse. Then we left Santiago for 350 00:21:40,599 --> 00:21:45,240 forty- something clown' s beak in the end we walked two hundred and 351 00:21:45,279 --> 00:21:48,839 eighty- one between those who entered they walked from the fertilized vega and so 352 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,960 they went out, but heartily, when you imagine it is cool, it 353 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,079 is not cool. You figured it out Listen, I' m just I 354 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:56,880 ' m I' m I' m I' m I' m I 355 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:56,880 ' m I' m I' m I' m I' m I 356 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:56,880 ' m I' m I' m I' m I' m I 357 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,559 ' m. But when you' re in that slump, with that sun 358 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,359 at one, look at my brother, with that not a hotel and Hulen 359 00:22:04,519 --> 00:22:08,799 and that carrot, that' s what you ask them to ride their nails 360 00:22:08,799 --> 00:22:12,039 and look. It was something they put the typical wait you already had out 361 00:22:12,079 --> 00:22:15,359 there I let me see who you are that will arrive. On On the 362 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,400 handsome or there was one who rode on the vega and still on the day 363 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:25,680 pineapple was riding and it was for the bona we were going, but it 364 00:22:25,799 --> 00:22:29,400 was six days. It was very difficult, which is the walk, but 365 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,599 you did achieve the myths chinta and one. I don' t think it 366 00:22:32,599 --> 00:22:33,039 ' s done again. If it comes back to being, we' re 367 00:22:33,079 --> 00:22:36,839 going to invite you to be a piyazo. Please, he' s got 368 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,440 Bete, he can' t be invited, no, but I sing at 369 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,880 least. Have you guys set up a duet, one with a lot and 370 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:49,319 one with a little. Payamin thank you for the visit. I really didn 371 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,960 ' t know you were teachers. That really makes you even more interesting as 372 00:22:53,039 --> 00:23:00,559 amen character and then reiterate to the people that date July 11th, the great 373 00:23:00,559 --> 00:23:04,519 theater of Chivado. The most important thing is to resume they are supporting you 374 00:23:04,519 --> 00:23:08,759 in Santiago. They' re supporting me, they' re supporting production not 375 00:23:08,799 --> 00:23:11,519 when I say support me if I know, I don' t support that 376 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,640 when I mean if there' s an intention of people who know you enough 377 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,519 in Santiago, of your people. If I had seen you yesterday' s 378 00:23:18,559 --> 00:23:22,000 press plan, you would have understood that yes, that people are eager for 379 00:23:22,039 --> 00:23:25,359 children' s activities to take place. But remember excellent, remember that to 380 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,680 make a spectacle of this magnitude, where you are being thirteen people on stage, 381 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,640 you need a lot of resources, as much human as economical, as 382 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,480 many things. What happens that to bring an expense and at a cost of 383 00:23:36,559 --> 00:23:38,680 ballots that go from 1, 500 pesos, four thousand pesos, where the 384 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,640 person sometimes says I can give my five hundred pesos for me, but my 385 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,880 child is three years old and you have to turn off for him too. 386 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,400 So, that' s a process of educating people to go see shows that 387 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:53,960 have a cost to get past everything else. So I want to focus you 388 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,799 know there' s a dress code at the Big Chivado Theatre just like the 389 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:02,039 national deal. And they' re not very understanding when they' re kids. 390 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,079 You have to be careful how Papi and Mames, if they tell him, 391 00:24:06,279 --> 00:24:08,359 doesn' t have, even if the child wants, you have to 392 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,359 not put it on that day because they won' t let him in. 393 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,559 Then I know it would be very difficult, very uphill for us and for 394 00:24:15,759 --> 00:24:18,960 the child as frustration of life not to let him in because he is there. 395 00:24:19,519 --> 00:24:22,920 That' s real. If it' s your mark, you must 396 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,680 park thanks to Payamin. 11th and 12th of July at the Great Theatre of 397 00:24:26,759 --> 00:24:30,599 Cibado. Then he will come here to Santo Domingo, there and after Puerto 398 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,960 Rico as for water and Ponce. If you want us fools in Puerto Rico, 399 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,480 you can already there. There are no problems rich port. There' 400 00:24:36,559 --> 00:24:40,079 s a theater for every town, but my heart' s already hired him 401 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,279 for Ponce and that' s July. In July, at the end of 402 00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:44,640 June, I finished very to Ponce and Caguas. You know, I' 403 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,799 m a raw sucker here in the capital, just as it is more produced 404 00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:52,599 enemy which is, but eight or seven you have I have you one out 405 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,400 of three and a sale, not because you no longer hire my compadre de 406 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:56,920 tor lyg for the cho, I your faith all here bring your hand to 407 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,400 him. If my compadre I' m my father, I' m his 408 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,119 daughter. Me. Thank you for the opportunity a possible me to be here. 409 00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:04,599 Really. Really, you really are the best clown of this paita here 410 00:25:04,599 --> 00:25:07,359 in Santiago. That' s right, you' ll get the end of 411 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,759 it. There is that exact cell another type of service and the brake is 412 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,319 that you charge more from Sandiago? Why do you charge more Santiago in the 413 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,079 capital than in the Urve? You don' t charge so much because you 414 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,920 don' t know, because there are more clowns here, because here I 415 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:22,759 came back to my people carry the audience. No, but I do know, 416 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,640 the capital' s got a job getting your best reason there. There 417 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,839 ' s too much I can tell you. You put clowns as the clown 418 00:25:30,839 --> 00:25:33,640 comes out as a point your plan, but you lazy all good. I 419 00:25:33,759 --> 00:25:37,079 don' t know. I was once asked to jump payajome a birthday from 420 00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:40,960 them. Forget if you can' t bring him back from Santiago. Forget 421 00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:42,680 about that, maybe the costs. That' s right, you have to 422 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,279 work them a lot worse here. If a person asked me for guidance with 423 00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:48,119 that and you think the same is what you were saying, they think that 424 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,559 since I don' t have the right means to everyone. If I ask 425 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:55,359 you, no, he asks for sponsorship. Sometimes I take advantage that I 426 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:56,799 have a Santiago show, the onciel does not accept that you help me there. 427 00:25:56,799 --> 00:26:02,440 Me more, thank you brother. We wish you success. Really, 428 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:07,640 Payamin, your stay at work. Talk about your quality and your commitment to 429 00:26:07,759 --> 00:26:12,680 what you' re doing and really, and I' m really happy that 430 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,319 I made fun of your show, because that' s what got me to 431 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,599 know yeah and that' s a we met in the vega. In the 432 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,200 vega, he met me without makeup. I met the character and went and 433 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,839 claimed for the sheath ten years ago. Yes and no. I didn' 434 00:26:26,839 --> 00:26:30,039 t like to meet you and I felt very happy because you can' t 435 00:26:30,079 --> 00:26:33,720 imagine, you hear the voice. Yeah, and then you relate the voice 436 00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:36,680 to the character you saw and then I got out of your ah, but 437 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,400 you was just gonna look at me, you know, you know, you 438 00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:41,839 ' re gonna use the sacrifices that I could use in a twist check that 439 00:26:41,839 --> 00:26:44,799 ' s what you do. Here we go, Mom, let' s 440 00:26:44,839 --> 00:26:47,200 shit this pod. They' re the one that all the dickheads wanted, 441 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:52,519 a wea that I really go out to, like ariel the clowns, wanted 442 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:53,720 him to have a mad vine. Listen to me that boy was what he 443 00:26:53,759 --> 00:26:56,599 was, because he said that the example I said you know that one you, 444 00:26:56,839 --> 00:26:59,920 that a boy comes to your house, and in your hand he tells 445 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,720 you and that you work. I work as a clown I have to kill 446 00:27:03,519 --> 00:27:07,599 him I mean, look how much you guys had a heel daughter that made 447 00:27:07,599 --> 00:27:11,480 that case with a clown. Thanks to Tom for the break. Father Jin 448 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:17,279 is your friend and friend, my brother, my friend, my friend, 449 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,880 my brother. Thanks to payamin Payamino' s house is still there on Instagram, 450 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,440 11th and 12th at the Great Theatre of Cibao