We left the morning of this ninety- six liens and today we have a
visit from a clown and don' t think he was some political leader.
We' ve got a good friend from the show over here. Or I
saw it on TV about fifteen years ago, right, fifteen not, when
I started watching and Eduardo and I were your fans, your followers and when
I had the hashtag that I watch local TV, of course your show.
If you don' t make a mistake on Saturdays on the 25th Channel in
Santiago, the house in Paami' s house sees me welcome arrit in the
morning or there we follow the rich, but in the morning you know what
is most incredible than us and that I say it with all the onestity.
We relaxed the television. It was with that hashtag and we started with the
children' s programs that they gave in the morning we started with those of
Santiago. There were twenty- nine of you on Union TV There were still
two of you. It was hard. Sometimes that one from the Union,
the clown was waving the little garages. Of course. You did love the
child' s father. Please, all please come. I' ll go
there. I wrote to b may what I tell you is incredible that with
the passage of time, which is one, he thinks that there are people
who come by if he stays because it makes you fifteen years ago yes,
and twelve years already on television sometimes felt with the program the little house of
paamin yes and then good. You' ve kept yourself high and low here.
People may not know, but they also organize events and work with brands
in the Cibado region and how many days when you take off Payaso' s
suit. He' s one of the best animators in Tarima I' ve
ever seen in my life. Oh thank you, thank you when one to
Clown, when Clown satiate over there. But the luck of me that I
' m getting out of there if I get paid, is another one that
avoids us and they do it for free and he told me but if you
have to pay him you know what piga looks at heart. It' s
the opportunity you give me thanks to you and I have a photo that needs
to be recreated. About six years ago I had my first nomination to the
sovereigns and we took a really cool picture that when I came to the show,
you weren' t there, but you' re going to put on
an equiita, even if it' s like a doll, so you'
re three things look. Now we have a new project called Paamin and its
magical courtyard, a show for the whole family that we think also brings here
Santo Domingo. That' s why we' re doing the publicity here too,
because we' re going to be in Chivaba theater on July 11th and
12th. It' s a show that leads to working on many values.
You know what the North is missing a lot. We, as parents and
also as animators, as clowns and in my case, as a teacher,
have lost the North why. Because the situation is very difficult for parents,
the war right now of a dad being a real dad and working on values
and having a child as he wants and as he wants the war. It
' s very difficult to face. You' re a teacher. Yeah,
of course I think it' s yearning in the salula. Now I'
m seven years retired because I understood that I should either decide or because I
' m going or because of the professor and Joan. I taught at the
most expensive schools in Santiago. I mean, by the way da Vinci Dominicano
Oliberia the sacred because one is many people obliographies q professor of geography, that
is, when I didn' t learn that if you know that I the
most recess to help me what matter I didn' t know that yes of
course you do know what happens to me that people when I see a clown,
you just realize that you are derogatory. That' s a clown He
' s gonna suck. This is a clown because you have to ask where
the disdain for clowns is born, that is, the degenerative mex r is
disdain. Yeah, I understand,' cause you' re born, you
start thinking about court jesters, for example, what you know that everything to
do. Thank you and it' s nano in that case that maybe they
had a disability was that they used it for that, because now that you
can' t tell people anything, you know that all people or it'
s offended that the word right now therapy is the one that' s going
to end humanity. But let' s go back then. Professor Joan Joan
' s theme Tell me what the class brings to you, that is,
your teacher classes, but that came first to your life, came to the
theater first in' 90s. I was thirteen years old the theater of the
Church, because I had to introduce myself to the Church. What' s
going on? I am from a field is called cinnamon in Santiago, when
the word of God was presented and they read what they played that day of
the Liturgy. People might understand it, but I saw there was a deficit.
Then I spoke to the father, who was a father of his parents,
totally difficult, Father Anselmo, that he rest in peace and told him
aensemos. You allow me what you' re going to say, the word
I can do to you acting that you gave me to try. These people
whatever they want, they' re not gonna understand anything, or I'
m Alberto' s a father He' s dating a bad father, so
a father of but good people. In the end, then they eat the
word of God. For example, let' s talk about the gifts some
antones that fell, One fell on a stone, others on feltis lands.
So that' s what we were doing to people. After the father read,
I saw that people liked him and we all continued all week rehearsing and
on Sunday we did. Then I arrived in Santiago, in the city.
There' s a field out there that I told you to put them in
Santiago. I came to the city what I' m going to do theater,
which is what I like. Then I' ll talk to you about
studying in Fine Arts. It happened that he was in Fine Arts. I
talked a lot. It was very gecio, perhaps the desire to progress already
forward, but my mom economically did not have enough resources perhaps to pay me
that daily passage of the cinnamon Santiago that was twenty- five pesos and three
pesos a pussy of the one for Fine Arts. When you come to see
more, they would tell me Joan t or you decide for one thing,
but again I can not put Bellas Ate also the University and the University was
the wass hear Mommy could not then there I remember that when I entered Bellas
Sate, that I needed a character for a play at that time was Lorenzo
Toma Martínez and Lincoln Opera the director. That was in ninety- five and
he was seventeen. In the ninety- six, I couldn' t follow
Fine Arts anymore because I didn' t have and I' m the one
who called the Brunette, who talks a lot that I love for a character
I don' t teach I can' t go on anymore because I don
' t have to be here and you know people how to explain to him,
and Lincoln Lopez told me they don' t come to the theater.
I have to get a job for you to work in protocol and so you
can then start the process of being teaching, that is, taking classes in
fine arts and also having a livelihood to come every day to class, but
you no longer responded to the stuff you gave. But either stay out there,
I mean, there' s eighteen, because I have to take it
back. We' re on foot we' re pulling that off now your
tallinco garangate. I think it' s all clear, you' re getting
a little quote. Yes, yes gas so and heart and now I have
the red pipette that I say to your bare back. So that' s
where your day at the was you gave me your bookkeeping day and then gave
you the magisterium. I entered the class in the year two thousand and three
in the daVinci Literature and Arts. And that' s already why you realize
when I write, I write a little bit with good nods and wawk that
men almost don' t. No. No. No. The man who
writes correctly always gets him wearing a wig, I wear it, but Payaso
' s going to the event. Great forgiveness, sorry what the tail got
hold of. Hey, he' s got to get hold of her Go
talk to me. Here' s an event coming up in the city of
Santiago already listens to us enough people per channel one hundred and five and here
in the capital will also bring this event. You were talking about something.
It caught my attention that you focused on that, because I thought most of
society. He was not paying attention to the enemies they are facing at the
time of raising their children as they understand. And you' re very aware
of that. And the question that arises to me what led you to become
aware of that, what made you wake up to call it somehow. I
' m Dad. It is also, by deciemplo, of all parents and
one knows that I was telling you right now that we as well have the
difference now when you were a child that I was a child, my dad,
my mom, your dad, your mom, they worked and tried to
make you happy within their capacity, because their dad might have treated it differently.
So we, when we were kids that made us play or be happy,
because it' s the child' s job. People wanted that the
child has the obligations of not what not my heart, a child is a
child and has to be happy. Here is the only country in the world
Latin America that is a child up to twelve years. In all countries a
mother' s child up to eight years and then at nine years are preteens
and after ten years or a teenager. And you see parents who want a
13- year- old boy to act just like an eight- year-
old. Because my child, my herma, is thirteen years old. He
' s not going to understand you, he' s not going to understand
the process that he' s going through from getting to know himself, knowing
who' s where I' m going to go what I want, Mommy,
I still don' t understand why he looks at me badly, because
he looks at me well. Then we, as a father, have an
obligation to strive here at least thirty minutes of twenty- four hours that you
have a day to play with the child, to return the task. I,
as a teacher, I would put him on lipstick Daddy please, check
the notebook on the child, help him do such a task whatever it is.
And I assure you, at the end of the school year, that
was just like me. I tell you, and dad didn' t check
it because he wanted to, maybe he already wanted to, because he had
the time, maybe he didn' t have it or he didn' t
have it and he couldn' t use it for that moment. Or we
always say. Now give me a chance to wait,' cause day to
day is hard. Alberto you know not everyone has the ease of having a
nanny in their house. We haven' t all had the facilities. When
he talks about the fridge, I mean, I have a supermarket in vinaevera.
There are many who have a desert and no water even difficult ex.
That' s why we have the ability to ride. This show. It
is given to the 11th and 12th of July, where one plot was written
eleven years ago. The plot is about a neighbourhood where there are five children
playing and everything like children. As I was saying, the child has to
be happy and today that happiness we are going to deal with that issue children.
Everything you imagine, everything you dream of, makes it reality. What
' s the matter? We have a neighbor in every neighborhood, in every
sector, in every residential place, not you alive. There' s a
neighbor that that neighbor on the mark is the grinch. That neighbor is or
that neighbor in your case, which one is your neighbor. You have when
I was the kid, it was my uncle, man that we lived a
street that my life would take the whole family and my uncle was the grins
of everything or I was bas we give me crazy. That bully ended up
sleeping. You think you get gringa, you don' t make bullies.
No. I see a very, very, very isolated life. Or me
what my quiet still is. No. I don' t think so,
and I think that' s what you say. I think kids need this
time to play. So, at that stage there' s a book called
The Slingshot. The Vice President sent it to me as a gift at that
time, Margarita Sedeño. In that book he talks about us adults, when
we are children, beginning to kill the imagination and through the death of the
imagination, the creativity and the ability to use us and that book what he
is looking for, what he seeks to awaken in ten of that child that
they isolated, that they caged, etcetera. And I think, when I
see children playing me and they spend a lot of time playing, I'
m sure that when they' re teenagers or when they' re adults,
they' re going to have a much more, much greater ability to be
more creative, but also to be able to adapt to changes, that'
s what intelligence really is. So, with the death of creativity, they
limit the intelligence and ability of the individual to adapt. And that really I
defend the space so that the children play I do not bother, on the
contrary, to me What bothers me are the silly little faces, that those
annoying and disrespectful, rude. Parents who support this and may be afraid to
correct them. You realize that parents today fear because they do, because they
immediately say the psychologist. You can' t correct the child. So remember
that then the child can get into depression. And if the child goes into
depression, you don' t know what he can do, he can threaten
his life, he gets into his room, and he can' t do
anything. Don' t let your child have confidence in other children don'
t have confidence in you, so don' t talk bad about my love.
But we' re gonna fix a guy. Here we have a psychiatrist
who collaborates with us regularly and he is very critical of him. He says
that the great problem of younger generations has been the psychologicalization of parenting. And
so says a psychiatrist who has studied more than not all of us and is
very critical of this and this attitude that everything is a therapy, that everything
is a conversation with a third person who doesn' t know you. And,
well, I' m not an expert on that subject, but I
think we' re in the generation where people decide not to build bridges with
their children. Let' s do it Look. To finish the concept of
the father. I really try to be on top of saying things to people,
because people don' t understand that we, as teachers, as clowns,
as educators, as people who work with children, always have the desire
for better things. As a father, you have to face it. There
are times when you say I want my child to be a reflection of my
lie. Your kids aren' t going to be a reflection of the kind
you want or the kind you try or the parents who want to live what
their dreams didn' t get through their life to hear the best baller.
It' s going to be my son, which seems to me very selfish
too exactly then you have two children and you say the little one, that
boy is terrible, the bigger, the quieter. For that little ones my
love cannot be Equals you have the desire of your different concept, different ideas
that was maybe you can have your own blood and yourself, your own genes,
but the concepts, the ideas, the ideals are very different. And
sometimes we say things to children who are very young. You were saying something
right now, which is that we have no respect to bring it up to
people before boys. No, and not just that. I think, I
don' t know to what extent that is problematic, but I can tell
you that there are times there are adults that they don' t get to
the height of the child. They believe that the child gets to the level
of creatures and down and things stories that have marked many people' s losses.
For example, I know a case of someone who lost a brother,
but he was a nine- year- old boy and like any child,
he has to continue his life. You don' t understand, you don
' t know all about loss. He' s sad, he lost his
brother with whom he was born and the brother was there and suddenly, the
brother is gone and the family, as he saw him play and move on
with his life. I was saying if your brother had been the one to
die. I was sad in some corner and I say, but what'
s the use you have to tell a little boy a sheath as cruel and
hard as that and that trauma accompanies that person to this day. Then there
are people who really have to give them arsenic. Then, going back to
the story of the grumpy neighbor, I told you that he was a guy
I loved very much but he, who was the people of another time was
very grumpy, grumpy. That' s what you call the Grujon family,
Grullón' s family. He' s fading Grumpy, he' s the
one who breaks your ball, he' s the one who doesn' t
want your scandal with you to be asleep, he' s Mrs Carlota,
that' s the icado sylla, so he' s next door. Grullon
becomes the polluter. For example, in one of the scenes in the boys
they try to save a planet from what pollution is. We work hard on
the values, the contaminant, the alien and everything else, and that becomes
the contaminant with grumpy taminol. Another story makes the clown smile because there'
s a moment you say, but that cock suchu sangron, doesn' t
laugh or that one. Sir I' m always bored sir? But why
is that gentleman always bored? What marked that lord to make his life sad
and his goodness disappear from his soul. So, that' s what we
' re trying to look for. And there' s also the grumpy neighbor
who always in the end is that he never had a birthday. Never his
dad and his mom may have had the time to dedicate their love and affection
to him and just go out on a birthday. Then we work. That
works out a lot of values. There are one hundred and thirteen people on
the scene We have forty children. Boy talks to the gentleman and back that
I' m seeing the room because it' s not me with us gey
I don' t even get palmoto acon and how you can handle a two
so many big girls. This you know kids are easier to work with.
If I' m gonna tell you, look at the kid. The first
thing is, you have to stay out of work. Sorry I cursed the
word. Children don' t work. The children collaborate, help in the
trade, Papi and Mames. Even 12 June marks the International Day against Child
Labour. If the children collaborate and help Daddy Mommy in the trade because they
could not work by law, then we have a group of one hundred and
thirteen children. These kids participate when you explain their role, they' re
going to do extremely well and like you said, they were doing a scene
and they put a song and there were three drinking water when they and eron
the song, they know that it was up to him to run and they
left the boob in the same theater. Because kids are like that. Now
you have to be patient in the person who understands that he has no patience
for children. He can' t be a father if you' re not
clothed with patience, tolerance. Well, don' t be Dad, don
' t do it for hobby, don' t do it and because Fula
has it he brings it. I can have one. I' m back
to pay for it. You don' t know that when Piter had his
first children Pite I knew him many years ago that Peter was going to be
a complicated father and, on the contrary, the best father, that worker,
that employee, that companion, that he works here. No, well,
I thought he was me I said rober Vale. Then I had that
perception that Peter was a guy who didn' t like the best, because
if I was detruded, sheath. But what you say is true, the
one who has no patience for the child who has no child. It can,
it can' t, because it' s that you know that he,
instead of a day, would do an exact damage he was a year,
because it' s that you' re going to end up hitting a
wall so, speaking of patience, parayamin let me ask you a question.
It comes to you they hire you for birthdays and stuff. I understand that
I live from that okay or birthday then it' s not just an Iberian
clown. So what did you do that time you were hired for a birthday
and the kid was afraid of clowns. That happens a lot and not the
fear of the clown fear of color. It' s called co so choir
phobia the fear it is. That' s what you did as such,
but it' s not the clown' s fear of the clown, but
the clown' s associated with the colors. You can google it, or
you can google it, what you' re listening to upstairs by morning here
at the OK where the disdain comes from. Yeah, but he talks in
one part of the curo phobia, yeah, that' s it. That
' s basically what it' s like to be afraid of color, not
the clown, and what you got. It happened to me the first time
hard. I was in the people of Santiago, who are a little bit
low with oil and that car and I came with a balloon full to break
on my birthday. I' m talking about that like seventeen year I'
m going with like, but well go very ran I' m going well
when I get to some serious pool, because you pris go see his balloon
and the kid saw me you can' t pay you anymore. I'
ve heard it ever since that clown went crazy, or my God, I
' m on my way over here. I see myself coming with a deca
boot from that yellow pile of that have the tip. So I' ve
stopped my heart on the wall so I can have my turn to make a
globito. The balloon flexes that ante, makes balloon sculpture and when I go
there comes this little girl with that tip of that foot there on her knees.
So that up that skin completes the bloodthirsty. That' s how the
boy looks. Then I patiently see her and work out the way she makes
that child my ally in the yow eventually ends up throwing me in the pool
with them. But in order to make it happen, you have to have
to look for the tools, find a way for that kid that you realize
is the terror he has. Therefore the leadership of the group you be friends
with him so that things will be sent. If you don' t watch
birthday year, well for dinner, then you already have a little one.
Before we go, Eduardo has a quick question. You' re part of
the assoping. I' m not from an apadón in this case. Right
now I' m Vice President National Nation of National Union of Dominican Clowns and
why do it was look at me, what happens those groups. The question
before you tell me about the two groups. The question is every time one
of the Clowns. I have to ask this question. Laughter is the famous
march that you are going to walk from Santiago pay Way. The creation m
was his song, the creation I did what happened through your mind walking through
the children of Santiago and Huey as far as you got. Mira is a
group of me, from Payaso, a group was called bass, it was
called the Popular Health Brigade. It' s a group you' re in
a hundredfire. You know that the person when one comes I don' t
know if it happens to you when we see him three on TV, on
the radio, say those people have money. Yeah, people associate with TV,
radio, sponsorship money. You can, you can give me what I
asked. The lady of that month comes to me. Look. We have
an inactivity and we need a fridge, a stove and I as much for
the seventy bgada kids and I said in high school as well as I do
that. What I came up with at the time was to start walking.
Then I thought that with one person and there came the slogan that was against
child abuse, because there we met with the people of wow I lost the
name of but it is blue, not the blue people of Uniset. We
got together, they started giving the data, the details, and they told
me my wife would do it against child abuse. Then we left Santiago for
forty- something clown' s beak in the end we walked two hundred and
eighty- one between those who entered they walked from the fertilized vega and so
they went out, but heartily, when you imagine it is cool, it
is not cool. You figured it out Listen, I' m just I
' m I' m I' m I' m I' m I
' m. But when you' re in that slump, with that sun
at one, look at my brother, with that not a hotel and Hulen
and that carrot, that' s what you ask them to ride their nails
and look. It was something they put the typical wait you already had out
there I let me see who you are that will arrive. On On the
handsome or there was one who rode on the vega and still on the day
pineapple was riding and it was for the bona we were going, but it
was six days. It was very difficult, which is the walk, but
you did achieve the myths chinta and one. I don' t think it
' s done again. If it comes back to being, we' re
going to invite you to be a piyazo. Please, he' s got
Bete, he can' t be invited, no, but I sing at
least. Have you guys set up a duet, one with a lot and
one with a little. Payamin thank you for the visit. I really didn
' t know you were teachers. That really makes you even more interesting as
amen character and then reiterate to the people that date July 11th, the great
theater of Chivado. The most important thing is to resume they are supporting you
in Santiago. They' re supporting me, they' re supporting production not
when I say support me if I know, I don' t support that
when I mean if there' s an intention of people who know you enough
in Santiago, of your people. If I had seen you yesterday' s
press plan, you would have understood that yes, that people are eager for
children' s activities to take place. But remember excellent, remember that to
make a spectacle of this magnitude, where you are being thirteen people on stage,
you need a lot of resources, as much human as economical, as
many things. What happens that to bring an expense and at a cost of
ballots that go from 1, 500 pesos, four thousand pesos, where the
person sometimes says I can give my five hundred pesos for me, but my
child is three years old and you have to turn off for him too.
So, that' s a process of educating people to go see shows that
have a cost to get past everything else. So I want to focus you
know there' s a dress code at the Big Chivado Theatre just like the
national deal. And they' re not very understanding when they' re kids.
You have to be careful how Papi and Mames, if they tell him,
doesn' t have, even if the child wants, you have to
not put it on that day because they won' t let him in.
Then I know it would be very difficult, very uphill for us and for
the child as frustration of life not to let him in because he is there.
That' s real. If it' s your mark, you must
park thanks to Payamin. 11th and 12th of July at the Great Theatre of
Cibado. Then he will come here to Santo Domingo, there and after Puerto
Rico as for water and Ponce. If you want us fools in Puerto Rico,
you can already there. There are no problems rich port. There'
s a theater for every town, but my heart' s already hired him
for Ponce and that' s July. In July, at the end of
June, I finished very to Ponce and Caguas. You know, I'
m a raw sucker here in the capital, just as it is more produced
enemy which is, but eight or seven you have I have you one out
of three and a sale, not because you no longer hire my compadre de
tor lyg for the cho, I your faith all here bring your hand to
him. If my compadre I' m my father, I' m his
daughter. Me. Thank you for the opportunity a possible me to be here.
Really. Really, you really are the best clown of this paita here
in Santiago. That' s right, you' ll get the end of
it. There is that exact cell another type of service and the brake is
that you charge more from Sandiago? Why do you charge more Santiago in the
capital than in the Urve? You don' t charge so much because you
don' t know, because there are more clowns here, because here I
came back to my people carry the audience. No, but I do know,
the capital' s got a job getting your best reason there. There
' s too much I can tell you. You put clowns as the clown
comes out as a point your plan, but you lazy all good. I
don' t know. I was once asked to jump payajome a birthday from
them. Forget if you can' t bring him back from Santiago. Forget
about that, maybe the costs. That' s right, you have to
work them a lot worse here. If a person asked me for guidance with
that and you think the same is what you were saying, they think that
since I don' t have the right means to everyone. If I ask
you, no, he asks for sponsorship. Sometimes I take advantage that I
have a Santiago show, the onciel does not accept that you help me there.
Me more, thank you brother. We wish you success. Really,
Payamin, your stay at work. Talk about your quality and your commitment to
what you' re doing and really, and I' m really happy that
I made fun of your show, because that' s what got me to
know yeah and that' s a we met in the vega. In the
vega, he met me without makeup. I met the character and went and
claimed for the sheath ten years ago. Yes and no. I didn'
t like to meet you and I felt very happy because you can' t
imagine, you hear the voice. Yeah, and then you relate the voice
to the character you saw and then I got out of your ah, but
you was just gonna look at me, you know, you know, you
' re gonna use the sacrifices that I could use in a twist check that
' s what you do. Here we go, Mom, let' s
shit this pod. They' re the one that all the dickheads wanted,
a wea that I really go out to, like ariel the clowns, wanted
him to have a mad vine. Listen to me that boy was what he
was, because he said that the example I said you know that one you,
that a boy comes to your house, and in your hand he tells
you and that you work. I work as a clown I have to kill
him I mean, look how much you guys had a heel daughter that made
that case with a clown. Thanks to Tom for the break. Father Jin
is your friend and friend, my brother, my friend, my friend,
my brother. Thanks to payamin Payamino' s house is still there on Instagram,
11th and 12th at the Great Theatre of Cibao