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Toby bell Ringer. Welcome to bat
Flip and Nerds. Hello, and welcome

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to bat Flips and Nerds, the
Baseball Podcast with the British Twist. I

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am Darius Austin and we are having
a positive night tonight. There's gonna be

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a ton of positivity and we're going
to kick it all off with the main

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man, British baseball commentary Extraordinary.
Russell Aysom, how are you doing Russell?

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I'm doing good, Darius. There
are a few people out there that

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are probably listened to my voice more
than enough after commentating on What's now and

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what five Games of baseball? Yeah, it's if people want to listen to

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my voice ball, then there's places
you can go listen to it. It's

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like if you've missed out on our
back catalog to day, then you're in

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for a treat if you've enjoyed Russell's
voice, because there's plenty of it,

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so go back and check it out. Today we are going to do a

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bit of a focus on the teams
that have been eliminated or near enough.

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We have had some pessimistic fans send
us some nominations, but basically we ask

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people we're going to spend a lot
of time over the next month talking about

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the playoff teams obviously, so I
thought, why don't we focus on the

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teams that are out of it?
And what did you enjoy? What was

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it a player was at a moment? Was it a game? Whatever it

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is. We've got a bunch of
suggestions from fans, so thank you to

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everybody who contributed. I will mention
all of you as we go through the

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teams. But to kick it off, I think we should talk a little

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bit about the national team playing at
the European Championships, so russ So how

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we get it on? It looks
pretty good right now? Right, Yes,

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a couple of wins, a couple
of the two games that we were

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expected to win, A close scheme
against Sweden in for the first game,

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but it pulled out a four nill
win, which was to see, anytime

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that you shut someone down in the
game, it's a very good sign to

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that. Backs weren't particularly flying in
that one, but a good fur now

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win against Sweden the morning of recording
this GB then, I think obliterated hungry

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is probably the politest way of that. That's a fair description. I think,

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Yeah, it was a twenty two
three ended after five innings of mercy

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a twelve spot in the second and
the ninth spot in the third, followed

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by nothing in the fourth. But
that was basically because they just all went

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out swinging, so they could just
get the inning over a pitching inning and

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be done with the day. Yes, so that was a very very strong

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performance. I still don't know too
much what's coming out of those. Obviously

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there the games who were expected to
win tournament had pretty much gone to plan

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if you were talking about seedings,
until today when there was a bit of

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a shock in GB's group of Sweden
actually beating Italy. So that now makes

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the match of GB against Italy tomorrow
very interesting if Italy views that they weren't

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finishing the top half of the tournament, which has got to be the first

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and looked at it but for a
very long time of Italy not making the

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top half of European Championships. So
it's going to be a very strong game

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going into their tomorrow. It does
GB because of now we could potentially have

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three teams on two wins and at
a loss if the result doesn't go our

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way tomorrow. There's the lights of
runs coefficients that could occur, but yeah,

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it's fully simple saying GB wins,
they'll have top neck group and I'll

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avoid Tech Republic in the quarterfinal,
which will be I think a good thing

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to do. If they lose,
they just don't have to lose by more

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than five, and I think they'll
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yeah, they're in a strong position. They're looking good. I think the

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pitching has been the real strong side
so far, obviously by that saying they've

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got twenty two runs, but there
was a lot, a lot of works.

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Yes, I think it was the
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point early in the game. Yeah, which gives you some idea of how

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things were going for the poor or
Hungarian pitching. So yeah, good start.

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And it's all packed into a week, isn't it Friday? The finals

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on Sunday? Is that right?
Yeah? The finals is next Sunday,

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so effectively, from like Sunday to
Sunday, it is a is a tight

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week, tight week of baseball.
Yeah, so do you check that out.

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We'll keep tweeting things out, I'm
sure, but yeah, go follow

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the British national team and of course
our hero Harry Forward who is leading off

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during a sterling job as usual.
So onto the teams, the eliminated teams.

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So obviously, you know some of
these teams have had pretty disappointed seasons.

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Some of these teams have done exactly
what we expected them to do,

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which may or may not make it
less disappointing for certain fans. So we're

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just going to go team by team. I'm I'm going to cover some of

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the things that the listener suggested,
and then perhaps RUSSA or I will have

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our own things that they didn't cover. But maybe you'll learn something out teams

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you didn't watch very much, and
hopefully this puts things on a positive note

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for people going into twenty twenty four. Where to start, Really, I'm

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hesitined to do this, but I
feel like we probably need to start with

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the Oakland as they are heading for
the worst recording baseball, perhaps not quite

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as bad as it looks earlier in
the season, but there have been have

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been a few few little bright spots
for the A's, so we had a

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few few suggestions about their rookies.
Stirry rees obviously up to sixty five steals

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in the end, it looks like
he could still catch a Kenya, which

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would be pretty cool. Uries out
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a ton else butt fun, pretty
fun that we've still still got a seventy

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steel potentially contributor in the majors.
Ago, Yeah, it feels like it's

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not. With basically making stolen basis
value slightly more, well maybe valued more,

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but more available, we do get
the chances of kind of Billy Hamilton

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esque players kind of actually having more
of a more of a chance to stay

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in a team. And then yeah, I can bemoan that the rest of

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Ruiz's value that he that he does
provide, or even the fact that his

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stolen basis doesn't actually provide that much
additional value, but it is entertaining and

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that and we do have to remember
that baseball is a sport that it is

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supposed to entertainers in the end.
So him being more chance of being valuable

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is a good thing. And so
seeing him kind of steal the basis it

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obviously to me, just seeing anybody
steal at Oakland just brings kind of like

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Ricky Henderson like vibes back, and
I just any time that that happens,

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it's got to be a good thing. Yeah, definitely, And I think,

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you know, it's important to note
that Ry's husband hurt, he still

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has under five hundred flight appearances in
the season, so you know, if

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if you can take some steps forward, get you know, let maybe a

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little bit better offensively. I don't
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that you know, he's not going
to do a Ricky, but could we

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see eighty or ninety if he gets
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I think we could. Yeah,
So that's sounds to look forward to.

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And then a couple of guys Brett
Walker, one of our contributors for the

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site, doing a stirling job with
all the content right now. He suggested

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Ryan Noder and Set gelf as well. And I think this is a couple

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of guys who could potentially be genuinely
good longer term players for the AIDS,

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right, Yeah, A hundred percent. Like obviously, like no do I

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think it's had that start of the
season. He was kind of like the

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one of the ones that we were
talking about like looking at being pretty amazing.

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Gelf Is the is the man of
them, is the man of the

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moment, not even at like three
hundred PA and he's he's he's a two

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point eight fanger aft Wars. So
if we're talking about like what a player

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could be if they pushed that out, that is like all star level was

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better than all star level performance that
we've seen from him and some of them.

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Of the underlying metrics also do suggest
that it isn't like bad. It

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is potentially like it is sticky.
I'm always a little bit little bit hesitant

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when someone has a strikeout rate as
high as he does, you kind of

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get a little bit a little bit
worried there. But no, it's obviously

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you've got to take the positives where
they are at Oakland. It is I

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don't quite know. I don't know
how I would feel if this was ever

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happening to kind of like a team
that I chose to chose to support.

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So finding that those small breadcrumbs is
a beautiful one. You just want these

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pillay Is to not be like the
next Frank Windell or Joey Meneses. Yeah,

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I think I think no does on
base skills out out of the strip,

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both of those guys for sure,
and yeah get off I think yeah

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strikeouts for reconcern, it might have
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I was expecting him to which maybe
doesn't say about what I was expecting him

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to do, But yeah, I
think you know, as Brett said to

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me when he sent me these suggestions, I hope they stick around, but

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he didn't sound that confident about it. So hopefully the Aids have got some

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of these guys to cheer for next
season, wherever they end up. I

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will note that Steve Paolo, fun
guy in the fantasy community, basically said,

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why are you talking to us about
hope? We're A's fans, So

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that was the alternative perspective provided.
But the A's might still win fifty games,

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which you know a lot of people
said they wouldn't, so they're still

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already better than that Orioles team that
went forty seven and one hundred and fifteen

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not so long ago, and better
than that Detroit team which has the worst

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record possible. I don't think this
is something they have to say that I

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think. I think at the start
of the season, I don't know if

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the front office tried too hard or
not. The front office or the ownership

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tried too hard do not be good
and then kind of realize that, you

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know, you can't throw out like
Triple A pictures all the time, and

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so it was it came to the
point of like, actually, you know,

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like they're at least a replacements level
team. But yeah, they've had

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they've had some good moments, Like
to me, like they took a couple

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of games off the Astros the other
day, which I think would be kind

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of like something that they would be
pleased with doing, kind of if they

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could something they could do to end
their season or whatever was the scupp of

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the chances of maybe like the Astroids, I think they'd take that. Yeah,

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definitely, It's it's been a weird, odd time. You know,

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we'll probably talk about the Astros next
week. We'll be doing a playoff preview,

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but I'm less convinced now that the
Astroids are going to be in it

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than a couple of weeks ago.
The Royals have thrown a spanner in the

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works. Why not, let's let's
go there, Let's go to the Royals.

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We didn't actually get any suggestions for
the Royals, which is somewhat surprising

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because I think they are one of
the easier teams to identify a highlight it.

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So I guess who's who's your Royals
highlight or what's your Royals highlight this

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year? US? Oh, well, I think Bobby Wick Junior is kind

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of like the fairly easy one to
go with. I do want to talk

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about, like the Royals seem to
be like a very interesting team that I've

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obviously been watching Cleveland play and an
attempt to just fade out their playoff chances

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for the end of the season,
but like managing to like sweep the Rangers

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across a series, then basically get
swept by Kansas before then going and picking

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up a couple of games against the
Orioles. I was like, what's going

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on here? Like this is exactly
like the reverse of what I what I

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would saw what I happened here.
But yeah, that that that team has

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has interesting options like that. It's
it's not to me if I was looking

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at the Ale Central, I'd would
be far more pessimistic about the Chicago White

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Stock outlook and maybe even Detroit than
I would for the Kansas City Royals.

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Obviously they still need to overlay some
money and actually kind of get out there

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to make to make a difference.
But yeah, like I think Boyward Junior

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season is he is he taking Kosei
Ra mirrors his place as the most underrated

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player in baseball or although he's probably
still rated in the fantasy world because he

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picks up those stats that everybody will
will love him for. But he just

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because he's been on Kansas this year
and they've done literally nothing that the general

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person, the general viewer wouldn't know
what a season he's had. Yeah,

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it's an interesting question because probably it
was a top prospect, So I don't

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I don't know if the perception of
him has changed. You know, he

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had a difficult rookie season. At
times he struggled to get on base.

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Defensively, he was bad. He's
really turned that well around this season as

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well as kind of being good at
the plate. And obviously he's still in

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a bunch of bases too. But
yeah, i'd be interested to know,

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because it's difficult when you're you're in
the fantasy community and it's like everybody's interested

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in Bobby Witt. But you know, he might he's got a chance.

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He's one homer away from from going
thirty thirty. He might steal fifty bases,

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which everybody's doing these days. But
yeah, it's it's all been all

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been pretty positive for where he kind
of looks like the superstar he was supposed

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to be, you know, five
six win players, So yeah, that's

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that's really exciting. And you know, I don't think we can let this

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slide without mentioning Karl Reagan's, which
is one of the weirder stories I think

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from this season, because I mean
a few of the Texas Rangers looking at

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your pitching staff right now, boy
would they love to have Carl Reagan's because

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they've you know, evolved, these
kind of fallen apart, and John Gray's

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in the bullpen, and the Grumb's
hurt and shares us hurt, and Karl

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Reagan's since he was traded to the
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fifth. He has a two thirty
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and a third innings. It's just
been unbelievable. He looked he looks like

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an ace, and you know,
he didn't look like it was a nice

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with the Rangers. To be fair
to them, he had a five ninety

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two RA when he got traded and
he was in the bullpen, so it's

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not like you can say he was
a stud over there. But he went

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to the Royals and it seemed like
immediately he was a stud. Like it

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wasn't like it took a few weeks. It was like, right away,

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here's one of the best pitches in
bothable. It's one of those really weird

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ones because he hadn't started a game
for Texas this year, like he pitches

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the startup them last year, had
a pretty may like high forwards dra over

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a few games where I was like
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single start for the Rangers this season, and then goes to Kansas, goes

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back to being a starter, and
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it is like a physical game.
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just one of those people that just
couldn't get used to like the approach of

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being thrown in as a reliever and
warming up it's going bad and just being

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given the chance to go back to
being a starter. It's just like,

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hey, I've taken maybe some of
the things they've learned from throwing as a

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reliever, but I've now going back
to being a starter and actually have something's

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clicked. But it does feel so
daft that somebody can make that drastic of

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a change with not even like on
a week's notice. It's not like that

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they were bad for a couple of
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came over to Cleveland, like this
season is just like, oh, it

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was just it was bad for the
first couple of weeks. And now he's

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looked like Jeli too evolved again,
and I could be like, oh,

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maybe like the magic of the Cleveland
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he was bad for a few games. Riggins wasn't bad for a few games.

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He literally came out of the block
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guess, you know he did.
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miners, so you know, yeah, I guess there was some of that.

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it sounds like he's done a lot

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of work. Because you've been to
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I think he's gone too. I've
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you know, we don't give the
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he's been doing a lot of work
on the side himself. So regardless of

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who is responsible for this, Karl
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interesting picture to watch next year and
all of these Royals pictures, we thought,

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you know, might be front of
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to be the guy they got in
the random middle of the season. Oh,

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I didn't think they've got much out
of that trade trade. Who might

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be the Eggs and baseball is weird? Okay, let's let's go back to

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the Al West. Let's go to
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to Nick, long suffering Angels fan. It's not been a great season.

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I mean, you know, obviously, Ohtani is great, but even that

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sort of entered under a bit of
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weird stuff with him clearing out his
locker and all that. But Nikkas highlighted

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Noldan Chaniel, who Rob and I
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he is now up to tied second
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to start a career at twenty six, So yeah, kind of he showed

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some some good IBP and the miners, but the aggressive promotion. I thought

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this was just another mad move by
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basically translated that straight across. Yeah, it's a really interesting one because I

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I can't remember what other podcasts I
was listening to that was talking about bad

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talking about exit velocities, and it
pretty much had like Nolan chaniel as like

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the lowest exit velocity like recorded in
like Major League Baseball, or one of

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like the lowest exit velocities recorded or
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something of this something that really do
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get people to attune and kind of
get that up there. But obviously he's

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still he still has the OBP,
he still has that discipline that he showed

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before being drafted, And so these
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fast make me sometimes question like why
the minor league system exists like the way

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it does. Like obviously there are
going to be the exceptions that show that

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they can work their way up pretty
fast. Like sometimes plays just get thrown

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in there, like Soto or whatever
when it's just a gap and you're just

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like, hey, like should we
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top end prospects just immediately from like
single A or double a like single swim

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kind of approach, because you know
what, like you could get more value

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out of them now than you could
later on, or they could be like

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immense and it is really interesting to
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that sometimes, especially like I look
at like the WBC and I look at

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how generally that impacts a lot of
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I think this year we can talk
about how it's impacted some of the major

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league players, but a lot of
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well have played well into this season
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high level baseball, even if it's
not even if he goes back to like

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Double A or Triple A next year, I think this is such a valuable

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experience and what some of these teams, once they are actually done, should

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be doing. It's just like throwing
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think there's there's no risk. Obviously, like a player could suck and it

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might affect their confidence, but if
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realize that they've gone from playing like
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in the world, like they might
have to realize that like there's a bit

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of a learning curve and this might
help them, weren't it. But I

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think it's a really interesting way of
doing it. Yeah, and you know,

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he did have absurd numbers. I
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You know he had a six fifteen
OVP Florida or Atlantic got drafted.

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That's that's a big number. Barry
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So obviously a guy with a great
eye will be very interesting to see how

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things go. If this is the
max philosophy. He's tied with Tyler Wade

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at the moment one hundred and three
point five miles per hour from Maxective lost

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It, which is outside the top
five hundred of people with the twenty five

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battered ball events this season. So
yeah, it's a very very odd profile.

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that gets you a really, really
long way. So we'll see how he

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goes. But already a pretty pretty
cool stat to start his career. Okay,

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let's go on to perhaps the biggest
disappointment of the twenty twenty three season

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in some regards, but also a
team with some pretty fun highlights I think,

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and that's the set lowest Cardinals.
We've got a bunch of cards ones

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on here. I guess we should
start with Adam Wayne Right, and this

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is two hundred to win. Lightly
the miracle that was the miracle that wasn't.

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I've completely forgot that the Brewers can't
actually play any like attacking baseball whatsoever.

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I feel this is an entirely faux
par on my my part of just

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kind of just looking at going like, oh, the Brewers were a good

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team, donte fan. I just
it looked like Wayne Wright at his best,

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which if we look at everything else
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this season is an indictment on the
Brewers more than it is on on on

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Adam Wayne Right. But yeah,
obviously we've got to be up. Like

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he got he got the Midlestone number. It's awesome, he's going to retire,

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it's going to have that. He's
it's it's it's a great position.

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But kind of like him to get
through and yeah, it was a great

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way of kind of like I'm finishing
that that season off it is. We've

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we've been positive here, but it
is an indictment of the Cardinal season.

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He wouldn't have got to two hundred
wins if the Cardinals didn't have such a

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terrible season. So, as a
Cardinals fan, do you where are you

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happy that he got two hundred wins? I will say the weird thing over

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the last fortnight the Brewers are a
fifth in WRC plus including that game of

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course, so baseball. But yeah, yeah, you're right, you know,

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it would have been a difficult thing
for them to do. I'm sure.

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hunt and they couldn't start Wayne Right
every fifth day, it would have been

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I think a painful decision for them
to say, you know what I mean.

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I guess they would have maybe stuck
him in long relief or something and

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said you can go and mop up
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but you wouldn't have been able to
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team, I guess on that topic, Mark Cards, Fanny brought up Wayne

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Right, but he also brought up
the London win on Sunday, which I

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think, you know, after the
first game the Cubs cruised it and the

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start of the second game was a
bit of a mess for st Lewis,

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and I think you know, it's
going to be pretty depressing weekend for Cardinals

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fans, but they pulled it out
in the end and they gave them sent

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them home happy. I guess yeah. I think the split series from the

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London series is kind of like the
best for both teams. Everybody gets to

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be like, well, if you
assuming me, you went to both games,

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kits to be like, oh,
I saw my team win or London

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also, so everybody can kind of
be kind of happy because it didn't happen

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for Boston. But yeah, I
think any any Cards fan who's based here

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in the UK has got to that
that that day or even just that weekend

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if they didn't go to that day, it's got to be a highlight for

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probably a significant part of their baseball
watching career. Not many people do get

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the chance to go out to the
States and watch games live. So having

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an easier opportunity of doing that and
seeing the experience that MLB in and of

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the Europe put forward for the London
series was I think it was a was

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a phenomenal one and a better package
than what we've had the previous year.

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Previous time around. It wasn't the
previous year. Yes, yeah, well

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I think we all kept doing that, didn't we We you know, I

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know I kept doing it, Tom
kept doing it. We kept saying last

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year, and it wasn't last year, it was it was four years ago,

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which sort of made you feel quite
odd, I will say, somebody

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who really impressed me not you know, it didn't show up so much in

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the games in London, but when
we were watching batting practice and I was

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watching Jordan Walker just watching the ball
come off his bat, you were like,

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this is a guy you know this
It reminded me of watching Judge take

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BP in twenty nineteen. You know, you could see that there was a

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ton of power in there. And
yeah, we had a couple of guys.

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Ken Cards, who's in the discord, and Wesley McKinney both said Jordan

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Walker was a highlight of this season, and he's you know, I think

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after it maybe slightly difficult, you
know, had that hitting streak to start,

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but then he sort of called off
and got sent back to the miners.

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But overall, you know, it's
clearly above average offensive contributor. And

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I think we've seen the power start
to come through as well. I think,

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you know, there's probably a going
to be a forty homer season in

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here for Jordan Walking before too long, and let's not forget he's still only

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twenty one, twenty one in May, so long career ahead of him.

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I think, yeah, it's really
interesting you say that like it would.

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BP at the WBC was one of
my like real grounding experiences in baseball,

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kind of seeing that like even just
in BP, you can see the differences

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in like the levels of some players. Like I watched GV take BP in

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in Chase Field for like the day
before the tournament, and I was like,

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Yeah, some of these guys are
good, like hitting solid contact or

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whatever. And then like Trace Thompson
came up and like hit some big home

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runs and I was like, oh, yeah, he's definitely like better than

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like the other players around him when
it comes to those sorts of things.

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And then like the day afterwards,
it was like, oh, I got

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teach. So I watched Team USA
take BP, and I was like,

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Oh, these guys are just so
clearly like the contact that they're clearly making

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is like so much better they do
that. And then one obvious at the

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end, I've got to see if
Tanny take PP and you're just like,

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oh, This is just ridiculous.
It feels like something obviously is as simplistic

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as VP, that you can actually
just see the process of how these players

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actually do perform well when it becomes
in game Like obviously PP is a isn't

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easy or a tightened in scenario or
whatever it's going on. But the fact

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that they take VP and they actually
hit home runs again and again and again

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really kind of shows you of what
those top players are actually like capable a

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lot of Yeah, it is fun. I mean, you know, we've

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got another game next year, I
will say, if you're thinking about coming

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down, you've got an opportunity.
You know, hopefully we'll get the opportunity

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to have some tickets to the Friday
workouts as well. But even if you're

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just going to one of the games
and you've got the time to get there

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early, it is a lot of
fun to send and watch these guys hit

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in band practice and see how far
they send some of the balls. You

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know, it's just a different feeling, especially if you're you know, you're

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used to watching maybe Bestball in the
UK, but you've never seen a major

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league up place before. It's it's
yeah, it definitely hits different. It

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all so sounds different. Yeah.
The other guy that Ken brought up,

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which somebody I must confess, I
hadn't thought about a lot this season,

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but maybe you know a little bit
about is Richie Pelasios, former Guardians farm

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hand who I think always like he
hit quite a bit in the miners and

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then kind of briefly sucked it up
for the Guardians and the Majors. But

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Richie has had a nice little cameo
for for Cleveland here. He's not striking

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out very much, is it for
a bit of power? Do you have

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any memories of Richie Placios and a
Guardians uniform? I pretty certainly played a

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few games towards the end of last
season and kind of was a bit.

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Yeah, there was one of like
the few that they threw out there kind

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of during that fun but the young
guys kind of play, and yeah,

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he was I think he was ever
really like ranked as like a player or

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something to kind of like to think
about it. I don't think he was

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ever like top the in the Cleveland
prospects or whatever, but he had some

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like pretty solid numbers in Triple A
I think the two years before he came

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up and then just kind of didn't
look good. And then I can't even

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remember why he was let go,
but I'm assuming he was let go because

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of like forty man problems with Cleveland
and always he actually darfaide, I don't,

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I can't, I can't remember now, but I'm assuming it was probably

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forty man problems because I'm just going
to blame that all on every bad decision

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that Cleveland has made when it comes
to why we don't have any decent batting

409
00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:33.240
or hitting prospects and they all seem
to be playing for other teams, but

410
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:37.480
all of our pitching prospects phenomenals.
We'll get to that at some point,

411
00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:44.920
but yeah, that's probably a transition. But yeah, it's you know that

412
00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:48.759
the o VP is is low,
I guess for plasios, but yeah,

413
00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:52.640
it does it you know, strike
out though, So that was kind of

414
00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:55.160
like Cook compared to like some of
the other ones that are coming through,

415
00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:56.680
like Gonzalez and a few of the
others. He felt like he was just

416
00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:02.000
he was he wasn't like swinging and
missing. He was just not really generating

417
00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:07.519
any massive like contact or power.
Yeah, same same number of strikeouts as

418
00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:11.319
walks in the minors for Cleveland before
he was let go. This season way

419
00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:15.920
more walks than the strikeouts for the
Cards, and it seems to have moage

420
00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:18.480
to hold the strikeout rate lower,
at least in the three seventy nine plate

421
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:25.000
appearances for Solaris. So yeah,
it's a crowded little picture still there,

422
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:29.680
I think for the Cardinals. But
yeah, it'll be interesting to see what

423
00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:33.519
they do with him. You know, wouldn't be the first time we've seen

424
00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:41.839
somebody in the Cardinal's uniform way out
perform expectations double margin. This is I

425
00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:49.039
was going to trans but you've made
me think of Nolan Jones. So let's

426
00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:53.279
do the Rockies. We did,
We did get a last minute Rocky suggestion,

427
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:56.480
but I don't know that we can
scat past this without discussing Nolan Jones.

428
00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:00.039
Well, I think the Guardians could
probably have done quite a lot based

429
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:06.559
on the evidence of this is.
Yeah, I think Nolan Jones is the

430
00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:14.119
is that is the typical player that
is lost because you have your franchise player

431
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:21.079
plays his position. So Jones was
always a third base prospect, and once

432
00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:23.640
Ramirez had signed his first kind of
long term deal contract with Cleveland, it

433
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:27.599
was very much then like Okay,
where is he going to fit in somewhere

434
00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:33.400
else because he ain't playing third base
because that's Jose spot. So I think

435
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:36.480
at Cleveland there was a lot of
time missing around with him playing third,

436
00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:41.119
playing in the outfield, and then
it got to the point whether we're always

437
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:47.079
questioning, well does his back carry
his defensive frailties of the other position because

438
00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:52.519
he hasn't had time to play and
learn them. And eventually Cleveland just kind

439
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:56.400
of gave up on it, like
decided that it was like it wasn't worth

440
00:30:56.480 --> 00:31:00.200
their their time to kind of like
to work on that, and so traded

441
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:03.799
him away. And I'm now trying
to remember off the top of my head,

442
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:06.200
which is always not the right thing
to do. Who he was traded

443
00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:11.240
away for Darius, you know,
but he's obviously I'll let you look at

444
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:15.359
it, why vamp. But yeah, he's looked pretty solid, not only

445
00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:19.960
from a offensive point point of view. This season actually had of having power.

446
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:23.279
Now I haven't looked in his splits
to work out how many of his

447
00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:26.640
home runs and stuff comes in.
Carlia Colorado played to being away, but

448
00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:32.559
he still has a pretty high regarded
WSC plus one twenties one dirties. So

449
00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:37.039
yeah, having that power on the
Cleveland team this year. We'll get to

450
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:40.680
that probably eventually, but that's just
he actually has more home runs on the

451
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:44.319
road than he does a course field. We go, it's actually like doing

452
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:48.160
well. And hey, like the
highlights that I've seen the highs and keep

453
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:52.119
on annoying me is seeing that Nolan
Jones being having using his actually can another

454
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:55.359
an arm in the outfield for getting
outfield assists, and I keep on seeing

455
00:31:55.359 --> 00:32:00.079
them, and I keep on seeing
them with like the Rockies commentary team and

456
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:05.079
being like they keep on going on, know that they knowing boy, like

457
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:08.519
they keep on making the same mistake
and seeing him throw. I think I

458
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:14.200
think it was like the fastest outfield
assist in like five years. It was

459
00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:16.200
something like one hundred and two and
a half mile an hour throw from the

460
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:21.319
outfield, which you're like for like
that play was like an absolute strike,

461
00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:24.440
Like it was literally like on the
money where like the catcher would want the

462
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:29.680
ball to be to make the tag
and made them wanna look stupid because it

463
00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:31.279
was like one of those ones where
it was they're easily enough inside that the

464
00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:36.240
catcher could just be like, yeah, you're done. Mate, Yeah,

465
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:40.680
you want to you want a fun
stack carst profile Jockrvin Jones, He's he's

466
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:46.599
thirteenth in thirteenth percentile and range in
the outfield, but one hundredth percentile in

467
00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:52.920
armed value, one hundred percentile arm
strength ninety eight point seven miles per hour

468
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:58.599
arm strength is year average there range
because he was supposed to be a third

469
00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:04.240
baseman. Yeah, he is tied
with Juan Soto for twenty fourth in max

470
00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:07.720
exit losty as well. So there
you go. Let's say you hear a

471
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:12.240
bunch of home runs on a home
on the road. Yeah, it looks

472
00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:17.400
like an interesting little piece for the
Rockies somebody else who I think it's been

473
00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:22.400
kind of very un Rockies. But
we had a suggestion from Orange and Brew

474
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:28.519
in the discord go during the discord
of Ezekiel Tovar. So you know,

475
00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:31.519
the usual Rockies mo is, we've
got a prospect, who can we find

476
00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:36.680
which veteran is out there, but
we can sign for very little money to

477
00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:40.200
block this guy. And Ezekiel Tovar
came to the season's of twenty one year

478
00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:44.640
old, and I think it was
a bit of a struggle from at the

479
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:46.680
start and the Rockies just said we're
going to let him play. We're going

480
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:51.599
to let him play all the season
long. It was extremely un Rockies,

481
00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:54.880
and you know, the line is
not great, but I think considering how

482
00:33:54.920 --> 00:33:59.240
it started, he's actually picked things
up a little bit and you know,

483
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:02.920
been good defensively. Probably going to
come out about an average player this season.

484
00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:07.960
So as a you know, just
turned twenty two year old, I

485
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:13.159
think he's he's done pretty well.
Yeah, I think, yeah, it's

486
00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:15.480
one of those interesting ones that you
kind of will We'll see how he progresses.

487
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:19.559
I think, yeah, that first
few games of the season were pretty

488
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:23.280
bad, and then he's kind of
oscillated up and down since then. Kind

489
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:30.079
of a une was rough. But
yeah, what was this April April line

490
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:34.679
was, I'm just yeah, two
sixty three No, sorry, that's the

491
00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:39.360
opp two thirteen two sixty three three
zero three thirty eight w RC plus.

492
00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:45.159
So yeah, not the best start, but I think the Rockies are stuck

493
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:47.440
with him, and I mean a
few of the Rockies. There's no reason

494
00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:51.119
not too. But that also isn't
the way that we're used to the Rockies

495
00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:57.199
operating. So yeah, I think
if for another player that I've seen a

496
00:34:57.199 --> 00:35:00.800
few like clips of like defensive performance. I think he's looked pretty like pretty

497
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:07.760
phenomenal as a as a fielder at
the shortstop. Maybe kind of is it

498
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:12.480
a throwback to say that, like
shortstops should be like defensively good and not

499
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:15.639
power hitters, Like I know we've
we've had the gloss of like power hitting

500
00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:19.440
shortstops here in the last like five
years. To be like, you know

501
00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:22.400
what, this is a premium defensive
position where you can maybe afford to have

502
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:29.239
somebody's bat that isn't like exactly that
solid, but like his like his fielding

503
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:32.960
like value is is probably up there
as I think somebody who will be a

504
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:42.199
Gold Glover potentially winner. Yeah,
well he currently he only trails Stansby Swanson

505
00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:46.000
in outsbo average at shortstop. I'm
just gonna have a look at ucr as

506
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:52.880
well. I think he will be
up there. I nobody cares about USR

507
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:57.599
anymore, Darius, I can't actually
say him on it. I know his

508
00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:04.039
defensive value is very high, so
on Fangrass is eighteen point two rather defensively,

509
00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:07.360
which is basically made up for his
bat, which is how he's going

510
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:10.159
to end up as an average player. So yeah, something to look forward

511
00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:15.480
to for the future, and hopefully
the Rockies can assemble a team around him

512
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:21.280
and Jones and a few other than
they. I've got some interesting prospects in

513
00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:24.280
the way for once, So let's
let's see how it goes in Colorado.

514
00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:29.559
I guess we will circle back around
to the Guardians then. So we had

515
00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:34.719
a suggestion from at Willsden Gooner on
Twitter, who once again, I mean,

516
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:38.039
no surprise for Cleveland, but focusing
on the pitching emergence of Tanna Byby

517
00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:43.880
was about to kind of guess it
was. It basically like Biby Williams and

518
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:50.280
yeah, who else will they?
Yeah, and yeah, Tanna Byby,

519
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:54.119
Gavin Williams logan Allen, three young
pitching prospects. The Guardians factory rolls on

520
00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:58.320
the offense may not be up too
much, but they're at it again,

521
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:04.480
right Yeah, and then it's I
think Jay Jaffey did a PC other day

522
00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:07.880
in Fancraft's talking about like the impact
of Rockies on teams, and I think

523
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:14.320
Cleveland led for rookie pictures and then
are pretty awful for rookie hitters. It's

524
00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:20.960
it's phenomenal to seek because it's been
really like tough injury ridden season for for

525
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:22.800
the pictures, so that some of
these guys have even like had a chance

526
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:30.280
and gone through and obviously them deciding
partly through the season too can sevale go

527
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:34.760
to as an attempt to kind of, I don't know, improve future seasons

528
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:39.400
and take take up high prospects bat
that might actually be helpful in the not

529
00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:44.119
too distant future to help them out, and knowing that they're kind of like,

530
00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:49.400
actually, they've still got lots of
things there. So yeah, you

531
00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:52.960
can't really look beyond those those those
those three I think really for the for

532
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:58.519
the season. I think Bibby is
the one that a few people really thought

533
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:01.079
going into this season that if it
was given the opportunity, that he could

534
00:38:01.159 --> 00:38:06.760
have a phenomenal season, And obviously
it's been curtailed a little bit by injury.

535
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:09.519
But you've got to look at those
numbers and be like, Okay,

536
00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:16.360
Mike, he should be good again
come come next season. So yeah,

537
00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:22.079
you can't you can't not be entertained
by those players. What you cannot be

538
00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:25.199
entertained by it's all the bats do. But we're being positive. Hit Darius

539
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:31.360
for being positive today. I'm not
going to bemoan the Cleveland's inability to score

540
00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:36.639
runs. I'm not going to bemoan
the fact that we have like multiple sub

541
00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:39.880
six hundred ops players and starting lineups
or no, no, no, no,

542
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:45.119
We'll talk about the positives of I
was it one positive? You get

543
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:50.599
a lot of one run games if
your team can't score and you have kind

544
00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:52.920
of good pitching. I think cleven
the close to sixty. I think even

545
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:57.239
like Cincinnati have got like over sixty
as well, Like the two Ohio teams

546
00:38:57.239 --> 00:39:00.280
are basically keeping like one run games. Baby, let's have this like really

547
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:07.639
tight entertaining baseball when everybody else has
just been like that's jack bombs. I

548
00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:12.719
think, yeah, I guess probably
in a pretty different mode, right,

549
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:19.400
I don't know how what's the difference. Reds are at four point seven runs

550
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:22.920
a game and five runs a game
allowed, Guardians at four point one and

551
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:29.519
four point Yes, different types of
games, but they're arriving at the same

552
00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:32.599
result. It's usually close at the
end. Yeah. I think I saw

553
00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:37.920
something that like there were some teams
that have barely had like thirty games at

554
00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:39.639
like thirty like one round games.
I think it's something like San Diego have

555
00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:44.480
only had like twenty nine one run
games and it's like, well, like

556
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:51.480
Cleveland have lost thirty one one run
games, so they have won twenty six

557
00:39:51.559 --> 00:39:55.239
as well. But it's like,
yeah, the difference of what's going like

558
00:39:55.360 --> 00:40:00.000
of what the viewish viewing experience is. It's nail biting, and it was

559
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:04.320
nail whiting last season when they got
over that line, when they got into

560
00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:09.920
like the playoffs. It's just it's
entertaining. It's just it's ain't good for

561
00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:13.599
your heart, mate. It's just
been glad enough that they've been far enough

562
00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:16.159
behind that they've never really felt like
they've blown it because they felt that they

563
00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:20.800
blew it months ago. But if
they've been like three or four games better

564
00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:23.960
off coming into this stretch, oh, it wouldn't have been good for me,

565
00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:28.719
Darris. Yeah. I mean the
Twins gamble, they said we can

566
00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:30.840
win this division withouty five wins,
and you know what, they were right.

567
00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:37.920
That's where we are. I know
we're being positive. We are going

568
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:39.559
to talk about the Padres. I've
just got to say, I like fun

569
00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:44.159
records, and I believe the Padres
have now tied the record by going over

570
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:47.960
in twelve in extra inning games.
It's been a full year since they won

571
00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:52.920
an extra winning game. Now,
they've got three days left, don't They

572
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:55.880
got three hundred and sixty two days. Yes, there's still time, Padres

573
00:40:55.880 --> 00:40:59.079
fans, but if you go to
the end of the season, then it

574
00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:04.639
will be many more days than a
full year by the Sorry you want an

575
00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:09.519
extra anning game. So weird old
season. But I guess let's talk about

576
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:15.039
Blake Snell. Sandra Botjes on Twitter. She said, Blake Snell, that's

577
00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:22.079
the highlight and probably gonna win the
so young now right, I think so

578
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:25.599
we were discussing it like the other
week. I think he's done nothing but

579
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:32.440
like increase his credentials. We did
get some feedback from from John Ours of

580
00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:37.760
All Pod Partner saying that Darius is
now a numbers manners guy. Give it

581
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:44.239
to to see the world has come
come come full circle talking about the fact

582
00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:47.360
that but no, I think he
probably is going to get that. It's

583
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:53.599
it is such an interesting kind of
way to watch baseball like that. It

584
00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:59.199
will also be taking gets loads of
swinging missus inside the zone as well.

585
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:02.760
Then obviously people don't swimming this at
the stuff outside of the zone. It's

586
00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:07.639
a very weird combination of how you're
kind of like watching a game happen.

587
00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:14.119
It's like it is that stuff versus
control question that you know, arrists will

588
00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:15.920
have your debating for the rest of
your life if you want to kind of

589
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:17.880
get it, get involved in it. That it is there. He can

590
00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:22.519
move that ball a ridiculous amount,
you know, quite low where it's going

591
00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:27.159
to go. Yeah, just like
I think it. I think it was

592
00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:31.599
there. You know, if somebody
had had just an epic start, you

593
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:35.840
know, I think there's still you
can make the case for Weirder. You

594
00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:37.360
can make the case for Strider,
you can make this case for Gallon,

595
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:43.480
But Snow is so far ahead in
terms of keeping the runs off the board

596
00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:51.719
now that I just don't see any
of those guys quite edging it. Maybe

597
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:53.880
I'm wrong, you know, maybe
the voters will look at the walks and

598
00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:59.559
you know, the slightly diminished innings
and they'll they'll say, you know what,

599
00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:02.159
we're going to go for one of
these other guys. But yeah,

600
00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:07.159
I think I think Snails with the
two thirty three r RA now is kind

601
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:10.719
of put himself in the driving seat. I think we're not quite at that

602
00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:14.519
point yet. I think voters are
willing to say, we'll look at other

603
00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:15.920
things, But I don't know if
they're willing to say we're going to ignore

604
00:43:16.440 --> 00:43:22.000
like a run and a half different
between him and Strider, you know,

605
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:27.400
that's that's probably not happening. So
yeah, fantastic season for Snail. Be

606
00:43:27.519 --> 00:43:31.719
very interesting to see what happens in
free agency. Kind of an unusual arm

607
00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:36.639
to bet On. I think a
bit of a bit of a Robbie Ray

608
00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:40.719
vibe, but perhaps maybe maybe with
with more command issues than Robbie Ray.

609
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:46.280
So well, we'll see how it
goes. But yeah, we should add

610
00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:51.400
that, Like, after all the
handwringing over Juan Soto, and I'm not

611
00:43:51.559 --> 00:43:54.239
like not like just like, I'm
just like sometimes I look at the Leader

612
00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:58.320
bars and I was like, why
why would people mad about Juan Soto?

613
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:00.559
Again, Like I don't, I
don't even really remember, because like,

614
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:05.760
dude is just one of the best
sitters. I mean, yeah, it

615
00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:08.119
was obviously just that slightly extended period
at the start of like twenty twenty two

616
00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:10.920
or whatever, and maybe he started
twenty twenty three a little bit slow.

617
00:44:12.280 --> 00:44:17.599
He had a pretty kind of naff
start to August, but then it's kind

618
00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:24.239
of gone back up to his kind
of quite a hundred like obp Pan Soto

619
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:29.599
is an eighteen point six perzen walk
right and thirty three home runs and people

620
00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:31.920
were mad about this guy. It's
it's when you get the issues of like

621
00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:37.320
when you get compared it's twenty four, but this is you get compared to

622
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:39.199
Ted Williams or something like that.
That's what. But the issue is that

623
00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:44.320
he was too good, too young, and it is almost on the same

624
00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:47.159
as Press Harper, like you have
that good a season when you're young,

625
00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:52.039
everybody thinks you're going to be amazing, and then when you go and have

626
00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:57.400
four and five win seasons instead of
eight, nine, ten win seasons,

627
00:44:57.400 --> 00:44:59.760
they're just like, oh, he's
bad, and it's like, no,

628
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:05.639
he's not. You're like you're not
watching what's going on. You're not seeing

629
00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:10.559
the beautiful Soto shuffle every time that
he kind of like teases that he's going

630
00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:14.320
to kind of like swing, but
then stops and then just kind of like

631
00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:19.760
leans a little bit forward and then
works it ways back. Like I love

632
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:25.800
watching like highlights of Soto at bats. I understand they're not like givevable moments

633
00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:30.840
like some pitches are or some home
runs are, but watching Soto like take

634
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:34.920
balls and how he kind of positions
his body when he does it, it's

635
00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:42.119
such a fun, such a fantastic
like entertainment for me. Yeah, he's

636
00:45:42.159 --> 00:45:45.679
one of the most fun players to
watch at the plate in baseball. And

637
00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:50.719
you know, I think we probably
would be remiss if we didn't slide past

638
00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:54.039
this section without crediting Hassi and Kim, who I think if the Padres had

639
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:57.719
been good this year, would probably
be getting a bit more credit than he

640
00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:00.559
has been. But mostly what I
say is people are saying I can't believe

641
00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:06.840
that USI and Kim is leading Padre
certainly in b ref War, I think

642
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:08.760
he has for a while. I
don't know Sotos, they were taken him

643
00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:13.599
by now, but just tremendous defense. And I think, you know,

644
00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:16.599
when he first came over, he
really struggled with the adjustment, but just

645
00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:22.559
looks like an excellent all around player
now and a key piece of I think

646
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:28.199
a team. Hopefully we'll be better
next year. Yeah, I think the

647
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:34.199
one other thing I'd like to had
about the Padres is obviously shame for ending

648
00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:39.239
up with kind of like injury,
But the return of Gary Sanchez was was

649
00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:43.559
an interesting moment to me, just
to see a player that was close to

650
00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:47.880
being like out of the league,
like being like Mexican and Dominican Winter League

651
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:54.079
bound player for life. Just suddenly
one do pretty terrible for the Mets and

652
00:46:55.320 --> 00:47:00.159
and then look phenomenal for the Padres. Maybe everybody just wants to go and

653
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:07.320
play in Pecker. Yeah, Like
Gary Sanchers, I think he's a guy

654
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:09.519
that people are just going to like
keep betting on as long as they can,

655
00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:15.960
because if you catch Gary Sanchez at
the right moment, he is probably

656
00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:21.280
still top five offensive catcher in baseball, and he has actually improved quite a

657
00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:24.039
bit defensively. You know, people
like have given him a lot of stick,

658
00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:28.840
but you know that was just like
the Yankees spotlight. I think.

659
00:47:29.559 --> 00:47:31.719
You know, Gary Sanchez is one
hundred and seventy three career home runs,

660
00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:36.639
which is a lot of home runs
for a catcher, and he hit nineteen

661
00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:40.559
in two hundred and sixty plate appearances
for the year. Like, you know,

662
00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:43.800
there's a lot, a lot of
power still in this back. Yes,

663
00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:45.119
he's not going to hit for a
high average, but you know,

664
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:49.880
if you can get a catcher who's
like and a five average defender who might

665
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:53.440
hit thirty thirty five forty home runs, of season, then you should have

666
00:47:53.519 --> 00:48:00.719
him on your roster. So good
on Gary Sanchers. Okay, let's keep

667
00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:02.679
it in the West. Let's do
my team. I know the Giants aren't

668
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:09.239
technically eliminated, and the Giants are
eliminated. Just to a you know,

669
00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:15.280
avoid any semblance of doubt there,
Giants fans, I'm calling it now.

670
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:17.119
I didn't think they were going to
make it. They haven't made it.

671
00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:22.519
It's been a fairly just average season, very average, not a ton of

672
00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:28.519
highlights. But I've mentioned him a
few times, and we got a couple

673
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:32.599
of suggestions from Rob Jones Robert on
Twitter. He mentioned Logan Webb, who

674
00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:37.719
you know, has been Logan Webb, good, consistent, probably gonna lead

675
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:42.880
National League in innings, doing what
Logan web should. But I want to

676
00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:45.880
focus on Patrick Bailey. I think
it's run out of gas a bit at

677
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:51.880
the end of the season because he's
just played an absolute ton, but he

678
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:55.800
is He really looks at the business
defensively, and I think the Giants have

679
00:48:55.880 --> 00:49:01.000
found their their capture of the next
four or five year is because yeah,

680
00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:05.519
he's very hard to run on.
He's a good framer. Just you know,

681
00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:07.400
it looks like, you know,
I don't want to say Buster Posey,

682
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:13.320
because nobody's Buster Posy, but we
seem to have found a worthy primary

683
00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:20.719
catcher to replace him at the very
least. Yeah, they says, well,

684
00:49:20.840 --> 00:49:22.320
I seen from Giants games. I
think the Valves looks pretty good.

685
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:25.760
Like still there's a as a top
end reliever. That's one of those ones

686
00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:30.239
you want when you kind of and
have that player and you just want them

687
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:34.800
to kind of like continue to go
in to go in that way. So

688
00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:39.679
he's what's still we are, but
he's still free agent will we are eligible

689
00:49:39.719 --> 00:49:42.920
for quite a while, So I
think that's a positive. I think for

690
00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:46.480
the Giants to think that, hey, like we all know, relieving performance

691
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:52.159
is kind of this mysterious thing that
can appear and disappear, but it does

692
00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:55.159
look like you've got yourself. He's
got great stuff and he's still very young,

693
00:49:55.280 --> 00:50:00.440
so I guess I think we should
always So let's give some props to

694
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:07.079
Tara Estrada because I think Tara Estrada
was like the quintessential. Nobody believes this,

695
00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:08.960
like, yeah, he had a
great twenty twenty two. It's not

696
00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:15.719
happening again. You know, he's
probably having a three to four wedin season.

697
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:20.679
He's missed some time as well.
He's been the Jarants best position player,

698
00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:23.760
So I think all credit to him
there. You know, it's not

699
00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:29.800
he's not a big power guy,
but just somebody who We don't have a

700
00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:31.360
ton of these guys really, you
know, it's all very mixed and match.

701
00:50:32.039 --> 00:50:36.880
And I think you average had a
steals, great defense, great great

702
00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:42.000
defensive players. Like you can't have
like a team of nine superstars like in

703
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:45.400
baseball anymore. That doesn't it doesn't
exist. We don't have like the Yankees

704
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:47.239
old star teams in the past or
whatever. You need to have some of

705
00:50:47.280 --> 00:50:53.039
those unassuming but good players. And
I think Estrada really is is that to

706
00:50:53.119 --> 00:50:58.119
a like to a team? Yeah, exactly. And you know that I

707
00:50:58.119 --> 00:51:01.760
think that the great teams understand this. You know, the Dodgers have had

708
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:07.599
these blue guys over there over the
years. You know, they will fill

709
00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:12.480
in everywhere he can. He can
do a few things, and yeah,

710
00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:15.519
now now they need to go out, they need to get the big the

711
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:20.639
big pieces. We'll see what they
do this offseason. I've got to believe

712
00:51:20.679 --> 00:51:24.599
that it is on that that list. They've tried a few times over there

713
00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:30.199
in the last couple of off seasons
and not hit the mark. So we'll

714
00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:32.760
see how that goes. But yeah, I think you know, they're good

715
00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:37.480
at building the base of the roster
around players. It's of what if the

716
00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:40.480
Angels. If you get to combine
this and like what the Angels have not

717
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:44.639
done around Otani and Trout, I
think you'd have a good baseball team.

718
00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:50.280
I think that's what the Giants need. Okay, imagine what they both they

719
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:55.599
combined, how much they could have
thwarted the Dodgers. Yeah? Can we

720
00:51:55.639 --> 00:51:59.679
really thought the Dodgers? They don't
know it happened once in intok a miracle.

721
00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:06.239
So let's let's do the New York
Mets, the confounding New York Mets.

722
00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:09.760
But I think we can all agree
Code I Sanger, he's come over

723
00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:13.719
and it's been He's been a lot
of fantasn't he like, you know,

724
00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:17.119
not just the production, but the
ghost Fork. I love seeing the ghost

725
00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:21.159
fork highlights. I think he has
over one hundred strikeouts on the ghost Fork

726
00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:23.760
this season. I think that's been
a big win for the Mets in and

727
00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:30.239
I've always pretty disappointed. You.
Yeah, I think it's one of those

728
00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:37.000
ones where rightly or wrongly. I
think people underestimated him coming into this season,

729
00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:40.119
and I think people will read ready
after the first two or three weeks

730
00:52:40.119 --> 00:52:45.400
of the season to ride him off
as being like that's another Japanese pictures come

731
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:52.079
over and hasn't like shown like shown
the difference between MPV and and and then

732
00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:54.079
will be and you're just like,
thank you, you know what. I

733
00:52:54.079 --> 00:52:57.159
think you're all giving a bit of
time. You're all wrong here. But

734
00:52:57.280 --> 00:53:04.280
he's a girl's like and yeah,
so I think that coming through And obviously

735
00:53:04.360 --> 00:53:07.760
I don't think any Mets fans would
have want Singer to have been the ace

736
00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:09.800
for this season. I think if
that's kind of come out being the case,

737
00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:15.960
this season has probably not ended the
best because you would have probably obviously

738
00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:20.519
when you start a season with Max
Schezer and Justin Ferlando. Yeah, yeah,

739
00:53:20.679 --> 00:53:24.159
if Codi Singer is your race,
then yeah, unless they're all on

740
00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:28.800
like seven wins, it's like,
yeah, it's not a good thing.

741
00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:31.679
But yeah, nearly twenty nine percent
drack out right, sub three r right,

742
00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:36.199
it's you know, it's been a
very very good debut season. Yeah.

743
00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:43.760
When I think he's what, I
think only him McGill and Peterson and

744
00:53:43.800 --> 00:53:45.800
maybe Twitchers to get more than one
hundred innings pitched for them this season.

745
00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:52.079
It's been a it's been that,
and that's a hodge podge of players providing

746
00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:59.360
starts for for them this season.
So yes, I'm obviously going to put

747
00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:02.960
my my might Cleaveland hat on again
and talk about how awesome Linda is.

748
00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:07.039
If I want to talk about another
player that I think is one of the

749
00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:13.119
most underrated players in baseball, I
think lind Or is being underrated in the

750
00:54:13.119 --> 00:54:15.840
New York market, which I thought
was supposed to be the one thing that

751
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:19.960
wouldn't happen when he went to New
York, he'd finally get like rated for

752
00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:22.880
what he actually is. But he's
what started the first season kind of badly

753
00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:29.639
and then has now just been like
phenomenal since. And I don't know if

754
00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:35.159
this is just I don't see obviously
the Mets have been performing performing poorly anyway,

755
00:54:35.199 --> 00:54:38.559
I just don't see people talking about
how good he is. Yeah,

756
00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:43.079
so I should say we had three
people nominated singer actually Christie or we were

757
00:54:43.239 --> 00:54:47.639
Charling and Discord Richard Wilson. But
Sam Skinner on the Twitter as well,

758
00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:52.880
he did say the consistency of the
core, which included Linda but also Brandon

759
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:59.519
Nemo and Peter Alonso. You know, those guys have all had a good

760
00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:02.960
season. You know, the batting
average has dropped off a bit for a

761
00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:07.639
Lonzo, but he's hit forty five
fronds. So but yeah, franciscan indoor

762
00:55:07.920 --> 00:55:14.679
five win player. Once again,
he's just just a very very good baseball

763
00:55:14.679 --> 00:55:20.360
player. And yeah it is he's
got a still getting stuck, I don't

764
00:55:20.599 --> 00:55:27.039
but nearly up to fifty wins before
his age thirty seasons. So well,

765
00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:31.119
on that Hall of Fame track,
he'll be an interesting I am sure when

766
00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:36.199
we get to those Hall of Fame
debates, but yeah, very much deserves

767
00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:38.480
it in my book, on the
strength of his career so far. I

768
00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:43.760
think we'd also should talk about if
we want to talk about how we're hitting

769
00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:49.679
catches. Alvarez has come up and
looks pretty good. Been maybe and at

770
00:55:49.719 --> 00:55:52.519
least earlier on in the season,
was the source of light for the Mets.

771
00:55:54.000 --> 00:55:58.400
Yeah, I think I think it's
you know, it's been tough for

772
00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:00.719
him to catch all the seas and
I've asked a lot of him. I

773
00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:05.519
think the second half has been a
big struggle. But there's obviously a ton

774
00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:07.480
of power in the bat I think, you know what, what they want

775
00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:12.639
really ideally is to be in a
situation. Maybe they hope this would be

776
00:56:12.679 --> 00:56:16.400
the case with Amana byas that he
could spell in a bit more and you

777
00:56:16.440 --> 00:56:22.360
know, gets altrest some time at
the age to just hit. But to

778
00:56:22.519 --> 00:56:25.760
his credit, Alvrez has been been
very good defensively, so I think he

779
00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:30.400
spent a lot of time working on
that, and clearly he can still be

780
00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:36.079
a very good offensive catcher. So
as a you know, crazy He's also

781
00:56:36.199 --> 00:56:39.960
just twenty one, So yeah,
heading into his age twenty two season with

782
00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:44.559
you know, close to five hundred
plate appearances done to his belt by the

783
00:56:44.639 --> 00:56:46.639
end of this year, I think, yeah, another bright spot for the

784
00:56:46.639 --> 00:56:53.760
future Gary Sanchez, not the days
Gary Sanders. I think, yeah,

785
00:56:53.800 --> 00:56:58.760
this is already a better defensive season
than Gary Sanchez has ever had. That

786
00:56:59.159 --> 00:57:01.000
is a disservice to others. I
will, I will, I will retact

787
00:57:01.000 --> 00:57:06.559
that comment. Yeah, Otherwise,
the batting line, yeah, not dissimilar.

788
00:57:06.760 --> 00:57:09.719
But yeah, I won't cause Mets
too much Mets fans too much pain

789
00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:16.760
by bringing that up. And my
BP colleague Mike Punella said the elimination was

790
00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:22.960
the highlights of the Mets season.
So thanks for that, Mike. Is

791
00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:27.800
there just knowing that like the pain
was done, like knowing the pain was

792
00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:31.800
done? Basically, Yes, So
there we go. Let's keep it in

793
00:57:31.800 --> 00:57:36.760
New York. The New York Yankees, Mark blakemore good friend of the pod.

794
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:42.039
He suggested Anthony Vorpe, who has
said, you know, an interesting

795
00:57:42.280 --> 00:57:45.119
rookie season, but the Yankees have
stuck with him all year young pretty much,

796
00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:50.119
and I think, you know,
there's there's some a lot of positives

797
00:57:50.119 --> 00:57:52.159
there. Really. You know,
he's played a good short stob he's got

798
00:57:52.239 --> 00:57:57.440
power and speed. I think the
overall batting line is obviously not what they

799
00:57:57.440 --> 00:58:01.159
want them to be going forwards,
but I think again there's another very young

800
00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:06.760
player. There is some hope for
the future there. Yeah. Once again,

801
00:58:06.920 --> 00:58:12.760
like we're talking about players that have
like raw power, Like it's obvious

802
00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:16.199
that that's there, Like you don't
come out and hit like as well as

803
00:58:16.239 --> 00:58:22.960
he has done from from a power
perspective, but he does have and he

804
00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:25.360
didn't really show it, I think
until he got to triple A. But

805
00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:31.280
that disturbingly high strikeout rate, which
is once it gets creeps closer and closer

806
00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:36.400
to thirty. It's kind of like, okay, like, can can you

807
00:58:36.519 --> 00:58:39.639
improve this? Because I think this
is always a very difficult thing for players

808
00:58:39.639 --> 00:58:45.239
to improve once they've kind of got
going. We've only seen I think a

809
00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:52.000
few players managed to drastically improve those
sorts of things. But he's a he's

810
00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:54.480
almost like like, I don't know
what what I was saying that he still

811
00:58:54.519 --> 00:59:00.599
is then like an under an under
average level hitter and defensively good. But

812
00:59:00.639 --> 00:59:05.559
it's a really weird combination for a
short stop. You always think like if

813
00:59:05.559 --> 00:59:09.280
your short stop is not the offensively
solid, they usually don't they like the

814
00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:14.039
power or whatever, but they're like
contact hitter and we'll get on base,

815
00:59:14.119 --> 00:59:16.320
whereas this is like, no,
you had a power hitter who's also good

816
00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:24.239
defensively but doesn't have the contact skills. Yeah, it's it'll be interesting to

817
00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:29.360
see the striker has got a little
bit better in the second half. You

818
00:59:29.400 --> 00:59:30.719
know, you feel you feel like
he's that guy. If you can get

819
00:59:30.719 --> 00:59:35.719
it down until like twenty five percent, you know, just just get a

820
00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:37.360
little bit more contact and maybe take
a few more walks. You know,

821
00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:43.760
there's if if you can get to
that at least average contributor, you know,

822
00:59:43.800 --> 00:59:46.920
I think it'll be a fixture in
this lineup, but yeah, it's

823
00:59:47.599 --> 00:59:53.559
it's obviously been a difficult season for
the Yankees. I feel like we haven't

824
00:59:53.599 --> 01:00:00.199
really talked about Aaron Judge at all, who was just like his hit five

825
01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:02.480
home runs in one hundred and one
games and has like an ops over a

826
01:00:02.519 --> 01:00:06.119
thousand. But because he's been hurt
a bit and the Yankees have sucked,

827
01:00:06.280 --> 01:00:09.760
like, we just haven't talked about
him. But yeah, partly partly because

828
01:00:09.800 --> 01:00:13.559
I think, like last season was
so incredible, it's just like, yeah,

829
01:00:13.599 --> 01:00:16.440
whatever, this is just Aaron Judge
through and Aaron Judge things. Yeah,

830
01:00:16.480 --> 01:00:20.440
and that's the thing, like you
know, we were talking about like

831
01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:23.280
Soto, you you can it's going
from back to Harper. You get compared

832
01:00:23.320 --> 01:00:27.079
to your best seasons, no matter
like if you put up a good season

833
01:00:27.440 --> 01:00:32.880
or a great season, if it's
not very good, then it isn't noteworthy.

834
01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:36.400
I think I think that. I
think ash thing is that I don't

835
01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:37.920
know, if you get any of
the Yankees people giving comments, you've potentially

836
01:00:37.920 --> 01:00:42.719
got a frigging cy Young win it
here. That was it, Yeah,

837
01:00:42.719 --> 01:00:45.760
it was it was interesting. I
don't know if Mark was avoiding the obvious,

838
01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:49.079
but you know, I don't see
how Cold doesn't win the cy young

839
01:00:49.119 --> 01:00:53.400
at this point. The last start
was Starer again, Yeah, he sit

840
01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:58.760
there the two hundred things. Now, he's just you know, if you

841
01:00:58.840 --> 01:01:02.760
are list being the most reliable pictures
in baseball, now, you know,

842
01:01:02.960 --> 01:01:08.639
I think cobbl is on the extremely
short There aren't many left anymore. Yeah,

843
01:01:09.000 --> 01:01:13.199
guys that you can count on to
make thirty plus starts and pitch two

844
01:01:13.239 --> 01:01:15.840
hundred innings and know that you're going
to get an ace. You know,

845
01:01:15.880 --> 01:01:22.800
those guys just are in extremely short
supply, yes, I think. And

846
01:01:22.840 --> 01:01:25.199
then it makes me interesting to think
of got two years to probably two so

847
01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:31.159
young winners who aren't going to make
the posts. Yeah. Yeah, Michael

848
01:01:31.239 --> 01:01:36.400
King is an interesting one as well. Just this quickly, but the Yankees

849
01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:39.679
have put him in the rotation after
you know, being a bullpen onarm for

850
01:01:39.719 --> 01:01:46.760
a really long time. And he
looks great at thirteen strikeouts against the Right

851
01:01:47.119 --> 01:01:52.039
Jays again his last start one and
run, and you know he's on a

852
01:01:52.119 --> 01:01:57.239
streak now, I think five starts
in a row and he's given up four

853
01:01:57.320 --> 01:02:02.920
runs, and yeah, the Yankees
pitching success. Well, has everybody just

854
01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:07.199
seen what like justin Steel is doing. And if we've gone back to you

855
01:02:07.239 --> 01:02:10.039
know what, we can have starters
with two pitches. So let's let's ride

856
01:02:10.039 --> 01:02:15.760
the momentum while it's there, but
let's do it. Yeah, so that's

857
01:02:15.800 --> 01:02:21.400
the Yankees season. We might as
well keep it in the least. I've

858
01:02:21.440 --> 01:02:30.719
got a few a few Red Sox
suggestions which Dave Nico nine and m At

859
01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:37.840
Badger Noble on Twitter both basically said
firing high Bloom or was to that effect

860
01:02:38.199 --> 01:02:44.400
that this indicates a potential change of
direction. I've heard there's been a real,

861
01:02:44.599 --> 01:02:49.400
like a significant amount of bloom discourse, isn't there I think, you

862
01:02:49.440 --> 01:02:52.840
know, people having takes about oh, well you know, this is what

863
01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:55.440
he was brought in to do or
whatever, or it was a poison chatice,

864
01:02:55.519 --> 01:03:00.320
wasn't it. Like Yeah, there's
no there's no way that many people

865
01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:02.239
have said this, but there's no
way the Bloom went in there and said

866
01:03:02.239 --> 01:03:07.360
I want to trade bets and they
are the the owners were like, yeah,

867
01:03:07.400 --> 01:03:10.760
that's a great idea. No,
that was that was already done.

868
01:03:12.119 --> 01:03:15.840
Now the deal that he got and
how the players have managed to progress afterwards,

869
01:03:16.159 --> 01:03:22.119
No, they haven't done great.
Do I think he was fired a

870
01:03:22.119 --> 01:03:24.920
bit early. When you think about
what's actually about to come through this system,

871
01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:28.599
I think, yeah, I think
he's a bit unlucky, but he's

872
01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:32.920
kind of paid the price of just
the analyst being sorry, the a last

873
01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:39.760
being too good. Like they're gonna
finish this season what with a slightly under

874
01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:43.079
five hundred record, and they'll be
like, oh, they'll last in the

875
01:03:43.079 --> 01:03:45.719
division or whatever. It's like,
yeah, you would have been second probably

876
01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:51.519
in the aon Central they might have
white. Yeah, but yeah, so

877
01:03:51.800 --> 01:03:53.599
like, yeah, you're you're in
that position. It was like earlier on

878
01:03:53.639 --> 01:03:57.159
in the season when the people were
talking about, oh, like the Yankees

879
01:03:57.159 --> 01:03:59.280
are in last place for the first
time, and I'm like, yeah,

880
01:03:59.320 --> 01:04:02.119
that's because all the teams are like
close to five hundred or well over five

881
01:04:02.280 --> 01:04:06.840
hundred, Like great for not putting
context on your statistics exactly what. I

882
01:04:06.880 --> 01:04:12.480
hate it because of what my day
job is. So it's it is an

883
01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:15.239
interesting thing to kind of talk up
from that perspective. I don't know who's

884
01:04:15.280 --> 01:04:20.639
going to take this opportunity, because
like you've seen how they've handled the previous

885
01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:25.400
few owners. Like it's fair to
be like, even if you win a

886
01:04:25.400 --> 01:04:30.440
world championship, you're not safe,
and consumably Dave Dombrowski isn't available again,

887
01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:33.760
so and they end getting Theo Webstein
out to come out of like his m

888
01:04:34.519 --> 01:04:40.320
MLB role or the bizarre of the
future of baseball or whatever is his his

889
01:04:40.320 --> 01:04:44.719
his role is. But yes,
I think going to actually things have happened

890
01:04:44.800 --> 01:04:48.599
on the baseball field. Did you
get any suggestions of like actually good players,

891
01:04:48.639 --> 01:04:53.840
because otherwise yea, so often I
think would be like the any things

892
01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:55.920
I would think of. Yeah,
well, love you, Mike, he

893
01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:59.880
said Tristan Cassus, as did Dave
Nico, he said cass Us and your

894
01:05:00.039 --> 01:05:05.320
and also Yashida and Bayo and maybe
also Will you're a Breo and Sedana Rafriela.

895
01:05:05.880 --> 01:05:10.239
So, you know, I think
there's a recognition out there that Bloomers

896
01:05:10.119 --> 01:05:14.159
has done a pretty good job when
it comes to building up this farm system,

897
01:05:14.239 --> 01:05:18.679
which was completely barren. I think, you know, the bets trade

898
01:05:18.719 --> 01:05:23.280
specifically. I think Hanna Kaiser made
this point on the Bandwagon that like you

899
01:05:23.320 --> 01:05:26.039
can kind of look at that and
go, well, you know, that

900
01:05:26.239 --> 01:05:33.480
sucked, Like like the return that
they got for generational player was basically nothing.

901
01:05:33.960 --> 01:05:38.079
You know, downs is not in
the organimic like Connor Wong is a

902
01:05:38.079 --> 01:05:45.079
backup catcher that is not good.
But when you look at how the farm

903
01:05:45.119 --> 01:05:47.920
system looks now, there is a
lot of promise coming through. And yeah,

904
01:05:47.960 --> 01:05:51.000
there are a lot of players on
the major league roster you can see

905
01:05:51.119 --> 01:05:58.199
being part of the next great Red
Sox team. Yeah, we're getting so

906
01:05:58.320 --> 01:06:01.760
attract here. But you'll always stuss
also, like the questions of was like

907
01:06:02.239 --> 01:06:05.840
Deaf as the right person to give
like the long term contract too, and

908
01:06:06.280 --> 01:06:11.239
on all of those things. Obviously
he had other poison chalices and contracts that

909
01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:15.320
have been given out to pictures as
well. So you work with what you've

910
01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:17.559
got. But I think there is
enough reason from the players coming through for

911
01:06:17.599 --> 01:06:24.280
Boston fans to be happy. I
think they still have to deal with the

912
01:06:24.320 --> 01:06:28.960
bizarreness of how and will be functions. Is that they're in the division that

913
01:06:29.719 --> 01:06:32.559
actually has five teams that seem to
want to win the division, which is

914
01:06:32.639 --> 01:06:38.840
unlike every other division in baseball.
Yeah, there is interesting. I guess

915
01:06:38.840 --> 01:06:42.840
there is an element of the dynamics
there of having the certainly the Yankees and

916
01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:46.599
the rest hours that there is not
acceptable, you know, for them to

917
01:06:46.760 --> 01:06:50.239
just tank it. You know,
they can't do an Orioles and now that

918
01:06:50.239 --> 01:06:56.840
the Orioles are good and the Raids
are just very well run that Yeah,

919
01:06:56.960 --> 01:07:03.559
they've got this like weird level of
competition going on. Okay, so we're

920
01:07:03.559 --> 01:07:08.239
nearly there. Let's set up the
Pirates because we've got a lot Jason,

921
01:07:08.320 --> 01:07:11.920
Tom's regular listener, Jason, thanks
for all your suggestions. See, yeah,

922
01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:14.400
actually came up with quite a lot
of things going on the Pirates,

923
01:07:14.920 --> 01:07:16.760
a lot of individual player highlights.
I think I think the one we should

924
01:07:16.760 --> 01:07:21.679
focus on is probably Kabrian Hayes,
who kind of has actually started to be

925
01:07:21.840 --> 01:07:27.039
an offensive star over the second half. Yeah, it's awesome to see because

926
01:07:27.119 --> 01:07:30.199
maybe now he'll actually win a gold
Glove because he hits the ball well enough,

927
01:07:30.920 --> 01:07:33.400
Like you should have had the last
two tot off any Cardinal fans.

928
01:07:33.440 --> 01:07:38.599
No, like Ernardo does not deserve
all the golden gloves. He's had fight

929
01:07:38.679 --> 01:07:44.039
me about it. But yeah,
actually I was so happy that he has

930
01:07:44.079 --> 01:07:47.400
a bat because now this discussion can
seemably happen in being serious. But no,

931
01:07:47.679 --> 01:07:53.679
obviously seeing him come through is is
a great sign for the Pirates.

932
01:07:54.159 --> 01:07:57.559
Obviously, kind of on the top
of seeing kind of like Reynolds not have

933
01:07:57.800 --> 01:08:02.920
like an amazing season, but you
can kind of see it's the same with

934
01:08:02.960 --> 01:08:06.119
something like in like with Kansas thing. You can see enough there to be

935
01:08:06.159 --> 01:08:15.039
positive about it just then needs to
be fed with some more expensive players,

936
01:08:15.119 --> 01:08:23.960
which isn't gonna happen, but let's
be positive. Yeah, we're being positive.

937
01:08:24.039 --> 01:08:26.520
There's you know, there's there's players
here. I mean. He also

938
01:08:26.560 --> 01:08:30.840
mentioned Jack Swinsky, who's having an
above average season, you know, big,

939
01:08:30.880 --> 01:08:35.279
big walk right, nearly fifteen percent, twenty six homers, So nice,

940
01:08:35.520 --> 01:08:40.199
nice season from him. Gary Triolo
who's put up at one and a

941
01:08:40.199 --> 01:08:44.000
half four and barely a third of
a season there. This was in to

942
01:08:44.119 --> 01:08:48.199
be the three outcomes King this year. He's got pretty high strikeout rate as

943
01:08:48.199 --> 01:08:54.479
well, hasn't it, oh Sewinsky, Yeah, it's three outcomes King.

944
01:08:55.319 --> 01:08:59.039
Yes, yeah, fourteen point seven
percent walk rate, two point seven percent

945
01:08:59.359 --> 01:09:02.279
strikeout right, and yeah, twenty
six homers he might might well be Yeah,

946
01:09:04.079 --> 01:09:08.720
so yeah, that's a good little
Actually, as a statistic on any

947
01:09:08.760 --> 01:09:12.279
of the sites, one always quickly
searched that we used we did. I

948
01:09:12.279 --> 01:09:15.479
think we might have used to have
three sh percentage at BP. I don't

949
01:09:15.479 --> 01:09:19.920
know if we still do or a
similar stat that calculated that. And then

950
01:09:19.960 --> 01:09:27.399
on the pitching side, we've got
the nominative determinism of Colin Holderman and of

951
01:09:27.439 --> 01:09:31.199
course Mitch Keller, who is you
know, I think still continues to frustrate

952
01:09:31.239 --> 01:09:35.840
people a lot, but he's getting
he's getting closer to the guy that people

953
01:09:35.880 --> 01:09:41.840
thought he might be as a prospect, right, Yeah, I think it's

954
01:09:41.840 --> 01:09:45.800
just going to be one of those
players that people are going to be every

955
01:09:45.880 --> 01:09:47.560
single year going to be like,
yeah, no, you know what,

956
01:09:47.680 --> 01:09:54.199
like Keller's going to get it back, but he's been solid, and so

957
01:09:54.680 --> 01:09:57.079
is he just going to sit perennially
and that there are going to be the

958
01:09:57.079 --> 01:10:00.800
people that think that, no,
that that talent was there that so like

959
01:10:00.880 --> 01:10:04.039
he's going to come back and he's
going to get the chance to improve and

960
01:10:04.119 --> 01:10:09.800
really kind of excel. But is
he just action now? Just he is

961
01:10:09.800 --> 01:10:15.039
the solid number three or four starter
and that's not actually anything to be ashamed

962
01:10:15.079 --> 01:10:21.399
about. Yeah, it's not.
You know, he's he's never quite reached

963
01:10:21.479 --> 01:10:25.680
I feel like, you know,
Cole never got to his full potential and

964
01:10:25.800 --> 01:10:29.960
to be hit Houston, but I
think he still was better than Keller has

965
01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:33.359
ever been as a pirate. But
yeah, you know you need you need

966
01:10:33.399 --> 01:10:35.880
these guys too, Like if Keller
is a guy who they can count on

967
01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:40.960
to throw one hundred and eighty evenings
at an above average rate every season,

968
01:10:41.199 --> 01:10:46.479
then and that's still really valuable.
And of course David Bednar has been unbelievably

969
01:10:46.479 --> 01:10:53.640
good, so we wasn't David Bednar. I think he was a guy that

970
01:10:53.640 --> 01:10:58.159
people thought would get traded, and
maybe he still will, but for now

971
01:10:58.199 --> 01:11:02.760
he remains a pirate and of the
best relievers in baseball. I got a

972
01:11:02.840 --> 01:11:08.840
suggestion for the Reds, which the
Reds are less eliminated than the Giants and

973
01:11:08.920 --> 01:11:14.640
Patresa I guess I'll read it out. It was ironically from an account called

974
01:11:14.720 --> 01:11:23.279
Let's Go Reds on Twitter, but
he hired Christian and Carassion Strand and Spencer

975
01:11:23.319 --> 01:11:28.640
Steers rookie seasons, and in particular
Ela de la Cruz stealing three bases in

976
01:11:28.720 --> 01:11:31.680
one inning, which is probably one
of the top three coolest things about the

977
01:11:31.680 --> 01:11:35.000
twenty twenty three season. I think, yeah, I think that's going to

978
01:11:35.159 --> 01:11:39.560
kind of come out as that like
season of like what it's going to be

979
01:11:39.600 --> 01:11:42.720
just one of those statists, like
highlights of the season order, But like

980
01:11:43.119 --> 01:11:46.119
when MLB does its top one hundred
plays of the season. I imagine that's

981
01:11:46.159 --> 01:11:51.039
going to be somewhere in the top
ten, if not not leading. But

982
01:11:51.039 --> 01:11:54.600
we've had a quite a few stealing
come up with a few still on homes

983
01:11:54.680 --> 01:12:01.199
this year. So it's the it's
definitely it's coming back. It's the I'm

984
01:12:01.239 --> 01:12:05.199
not I'll make the joke that we
have in I talk about a lot that

985
01:12:05.319 --> 01:12:08.960
like the minor tours, the team
that I play for, which is like

986
01:12:09.119 --> 01:12:12.359
in single A baseball in the UK, our walk is as good as a

987
01:12:12.359 --> 01:12:18.600
triple because you're going to steal basically
on the next two pitches anyway. So

988
01:12:19.600 --> 01:12:24.079
when I see this kind of be
implemented at like higher level baseball, it

989
01:12:24.079 --> 01:12:27.560
it does. It does. It
is thoroughly entertaining, and I think with

990
01:12:27.640 --> 01:12:34.520
those those young players that you have
there, like you can't not be entertained

991
01:12:34.600 --> 01:12:38.039
with what you're being watched. Like
you're watching, I think, as I

992
01:12:38.119 --> 01:12:43.279
said, they have a ludicrous number
of one round games, and I need

993
01:12:43.319 --> 01:12:45.279
to look you back up again because
they I think they were the only team

994
01:12:45.319 --> 01:12:49.880
that has more than Cleveland having one
run games, and it is they are

995
01:12:50.039 --> 01:12:56.039
thirty four and twenty seven in one
run games. So they've had sixty one

996
01:12:56.479 --> 01:12:59.680
one run games in their one hundred
and fifty seven games so far, so

997
01:12:59.800 --> 01:13:04.000
that more than like a third of
their games ending one run games, which

998
01:13:04.039 --> 01:13:10.479
is like you're watching, it's entertaining, it's the edge of the seat stuff.

999
01:13:11.640 --> 01:13:15.039
Maybe the result doesn't go the way
you want it to, but that

1000
01:13:15.159 --> 01:13:18.039
has got to be got to be
an experience, especially if it's just the

1001
01:13:18.079 --> 01:13:23.319
Reds after what they had a hundred
losses last season. They didn't they,

1002
01:13:24.439 --> 01:13:29.800
I believe, so. Yeah,
so that sort of swing, Yeah,

1003
01:13:29.840 --> 01:13:33.680
that's sort of swing is just it's
got to be fun, even if they've

1004
01:13:33.720 --> 01:13:41.680
just not quite made it. But
I think they're still there. And given

1005
01:13:42.359 --> 01:13:45.560
I didn't ask for suggestions for the
Reds, this was provided unprompted, so

1006
01:13:47.119 --> 01:13:50.520
you know they're still in the hunt. It's it's possible. I think this

1007
01:13:50.680 --> 01:13:56.520
is premature elimination talk, Darius.
I just wanted to mention it because I

1008
01:13:56.600 --> 01:14:00.800
got the suggestion. The Diamondbacks have
lost to the Yankees already this evening,

1009
01:14:00.880 --> 01:14:05.399
so the door is still open.
Okay, we just have talked about San

1010
01:14:05.439 --> 01:14:11.600
Francisco Wars and do higgo. Yeah, team that is definitely out of it,

1011
01:14:12.239 --> 01:14:15.439
and I think it felt like they
were out of it perhaps two weeks

1012
01:14:15.439 --> 01:14:21.520
into the season. The Chicago White
Sox, it's been I think, you

1013
01:14:21.560 --> 01:14:27.119
know, the Angels have spared the
White Sox a lot of a lot of

1014
01:14:27.159 --> 01:14:30.920
grief because they've sort of been more
depressing in a lot of ways. But

1015
01:14:31.359 --> 01:14:36.800
the wasting of this core has been
something to behold. But we did get

1016
01:14:36.800 --> 01:14:41.399
a couple of suggestions onetheless. One
of them was stilln't ceased, Still get

1017
01:14:41.399 --> 01:14:45.640
into two hundred strikeouts. You know, the control has been questionable, but

1018
01:14:45.760 --> 01:14:49.399
I think, yeah, the strikeouts
have been there. And the other one

1019
01:14:49.479 --> 01:14:53.840
was Liam Hendricks, not not for
his own field performance, but for his

1020
01:14:54.000 --> 01:14:58.319
activism. You know, his obviously
battled cancer and he's done a lot of

1021
01:14:58.319 --> 01:15:01.920
work off the field around that.
I wanted to shout that out and give

1022
01:15:01.920 --> 01:15:05.439
credits to Lam Hendricks, who,
by all accounts seems to be a genuinely

1023
01:15:05.600 --> 01:15:09.960
excellent guy and somebody has done a
lot of good work in the community.

1024
01:15:11.399 --> 01:15:16.760
Yes, we saw so much about
the middle of the season about maybe how

1025
01:15:16.800 --> 01:15:23.720
this White Talk team is run,
so you can't I don't know how much

1026
01:15:23.720 --> 01:15:28.359
optimism you can have from the future, but Cease looks good. Robert looks

1027
01:15:28.359 --> 01:15:33.359
good or Robert looks very good.
So I think obviously having him going again,

1028
01:15:33.479 --> 01:15:39.600
he's what a couple of home runs
away from a which way do you

1029
01:15:39.640 --> 01:15:45.359
do it, forty twenty season or
whatever, So like another we would be

1030
01:15:45.399 --> 01:15:49.680
forty twenty. Yeah, so it's
definitely like a good speed power guy.

1031
01:15:51.159 --> 01:15:57.239
Obviously has that questionable strikeout rate,
but it doesn't have the low average that

1032
01:15:57.239 --> 01:16:00.319
goes with it. So yeah,
and he is a plus defender. Like

1033
01:16:00.600 --> 01:16:05.039
if you're talking about having like a
young player, he's what twenty five this

1034
01:16:05.119 --> 01:16:09.600
year, I think, well,
it's his twenty five. Yeah, he's

1035
01:16:09.600 --> 01:16:12.119
twenty six now whatever, so it's
his year twenty five season or whatever.

1036
01:16:12.159 --> 01:16:15.439
Next year he'll be twenty six or
whatever. They've got him on club options

1037
01:16:15.520 --> 01:16:20.760
until twenty twenty seven, so he's
still somebody that they can build a team

1038
01:16:20.800 --> 01:16:28.119
around. Like, he's still a
phenomenal talent that you that any any team

1039
01:16:28.159 --> 01:16:33.520
would want to have. So yeah, hopefully they do build a team out

1040
01:16:33.560 --> 01:16:36.560
of him, and hopefully they don't
do the shocking thing of trading away his

1041
01:16:36.640 --> 01:16:41.880
low value contract to some team that
contends to try and scoop a load of

1042
01:16:41.920 --> 01:16:46.039
prospects. But maybe that might just
that change might be interesting in Chicago or

1043
01:16:46.079 --> 01:16:50.520
something that needs to happen, because
yeah, that's the only positives I can

1044
01:16:50.560 --> 01:16:57.079
actually think about it. Yes,
obviously a change has been made and Kenny

1045
01:16:57.079 --> 01:17:00.239
Williams has been fired. I think
most people would hope that Jerry Reinsdorff could

1046
01:17:00.319 --> 01:17:04.800
be fired, but he does own
the team, so sadly that's not an

1047
01:17:04.800 --> 01:17:09.960
option. But yeah, what what
songs? UK didn't dominate Hendricks and says

1048
01:17:10.079 --> 01:17:15.520
it's basically been meeting people with Limphoemer
on every road series as well as in

1049
01:17:15.560 --> 01:17:23.119
their home games. So good and
lame Hendricks is due. Yeah, so

1050
01:17:23.359 --> 01:17:27.800
we were almost there and we are
left with a team for which I did

1051
01:17:27.840 --> 01:17:32.159
not receive any nominations to Washington Nationals. But fortunately we've got some things to

1052
01:17:32.159 --> 01:17:38.880
say about the Nationals. So did
you want to highlight anybody? Yeah,

1053
01:17:38.920 --> 01:17:44.560
so the we had a brief discussion
about this beforehand to throw back the curtain

1054
01:17:44.640 --> 01:17:47.680
of of of of our production.
But the one that came to me with

1055
01:17:48.399 --> 01:17:57.600
CJ. Abrahams, I think,
once again we're talking another not offensively stellar

1056
01:17:57.720 --> 01:18:04.039
shortstop who's maybe not the greatest with
the glove either, but he's the fast

1057
01:18:04.039 --> 01:18:09.720
boy. He's zoom zoom boy,
so kind of like he's getting on those

1058
01:18:09.720 --> 01:18:15.000
bases and kind of providing us with
entertainment. In that regard, he's going

1059
01:18:15.039 --> 01:18:19.319
to be probably a forty twenty now
we're twenty forty. Sorry, kind of

1060
01:18:19.359 --> 01:18:25.840
the wrong round a twenty forty player
this season. Like, So, yeah,

1061
01:18:26.039 --> 01:18:30.880
I think it was he he was
a player that highly highly regarded prospect,

1062
01:18:30.119 --> 01:18:36.560
and I think his kind of performance
that we'd seen like last season or

1063
01:18:36.560 --> 01:18:44.159
maybe like the end of his time
that San Diego was that favor was like

1064
01:18:44.279 --> 01:18:48.319
dropping or that idea of the top
level of performable was dropping. But we're

1065
01:18:48.359 --> 01:18:55.399
starting to see like a bit more
of that back come back. So I

1066
01:18:55.439 --> 01:19:02.520
think, yeah, he's definitely one
to have positive one. Yeah, I

1067
01:19:02.560 --> 01:19:08.880
think, you know, there's been
a lot of debate over Abrams in the

1068
01:19:08.880 --> 01:19:11.800
way that he was handled by the
Padres, I think, and whether they

1069
01:19:11.840 --> 01:19:15.920
brought him up too early yet another
one of the heat extremely young players we've

1070
01:19:15.960 --> 01:19:20.399
talked about tonight, But yeah,
it's you know, I think his skill

1071
01:19:20.439 --> 01:19:26.680
set is better suited for these stolen
based rules we have, and he should

1072
01:19:26.760 --> 01:19:29.680
have a very long major league career
ahead of him now. I think if

1073
01:19:29.680 --> 01:19:32.039
he can be even league average with
the bat. I think he's a threat

1074
01:19:32.039 --> 01:19:35.479
on the base paths. You know, maybe they end up with him at

1075
01:19:35.520 --> 01:19:41.279
second base at some point and he's
more defensively suited for that. But yeah,

1076
01:19:41.399 --> 01:19:45.319
I think it's been a positive step
forward. And I guess the other

1077
01:19:45.479 --> 01:19:49.560
the other guys is laying Thomas is
definitely cooled after a very hot start for

1078
01:19:49.600 --> 01:19:56.039
the season, but there's still been
a well above average contributor for the Nationals,

1079
01:19:56.960 --> 01:20:01.279
played in the vast majority of their
games, and he's he's already at

1080
01:20:01.279 --> 01:20:04.159
a twenty twenty season, could go, could go thirty twenty with a hop

1081
01:20:04.199 --> 01:20:12.279
final week, So another ex Cardinal's
outfielder doing doing the business somewhere else.

1082
01:20:12.800 --> 01:20:15.920
They've traded away a few over the
years. So yeah, well, then

1083
01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:20.119
to Lane Thomas. I was having
a look down the pitching side, I

1084
01:20:20.199 --> 01:20:25.159
guess, I guess if you want
to highlight someone, it's probably Hunter Harvey,

1085
01:20:25.199 --> 01:20:30.199
who has had his injury shoes over
the years and was sort of once

1086
01:20:30.239 --> 01:20:35.840
seen as a top pitching prospect and
you know, barely ever pitched for the

1087
01:20:35.880 --> 01:20:41.479
Orioles really, but he's he's really
looked excellent for the Nats this year and

1088
01:20:41.600 --> 01:20:45.079
managed to pitch more or less a
full season of innings in the ballpen.

1089
01:20:45.880 --> 01:20:50.199
So I think he's a nice,
nice guy for them to have. Certainly

1090
01:20:51.000 --> 01:20:55.840
next season we'll see. He's probably
a prime trade candidate at this point in

1091
01:20:55.880 --> 01:20:59.640
his career. But yeah, nice
nice season for hunder Harvey could see him

1092
01:20:59.640 --> 01:21:09.720
healthy, Yes, something could should
say. I can't wait to hear what

1093
01:21:09.760 --> 01:21:14.520
you want to say now. I'm
Braser and Patrick Gorbyn maybe on for three

1094
01:21:14.640 --> 01:21:21.760
years of black ink in a row
for the most losses in the National League.

1095
01:21:24.840 --> 01:21:28.840
Patrick Corbyn has done stellar work.
I said earlier, you don't find

1096
01:21:28.840 --> 01:21:33.319
many guys who pitch thirty plus starts
a year. Now, let's give full

1097
01:21:33.319 --> 01:21:38.520
credit to Patrick Corbyn if you exclude
the twenty twenty season in which nobody pitched

1098
01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:44.399
thirty starts. Obviously, Patrick Corbyn
has a six seasons in a row of

1099
01:21:44.560 --> 01:21:48.000
thirty plus starts. Now, have
the last three of those seasons been very

1100
01:21:48.039 --> 01:21:54.880
bad? Yes they have, But
the National needed somebody to pick those innings

1101
01:21:54.920 --> 01:21:57.560
and nobody else was going to do
it. So Patrick Corbyn did it.

1102
01:21:58.279 --> 01:22:01.680
And you know the results were mixed, but he has been there and he's

1103
01:22:01.760 --> 01:22:06.720
kept going. He's been better this
year than he's been like the pre the

1104
01:22:06.760 --> 01:22:14.399
seasons, like he has improved.
Yeah, third consecutive season of a hundred

1105
01:22:14.399 --> 01:22:17.039
earned runs? It out, But
he's not last in National League? Who

1106
01:22:17.119 --> 01:22:19.640
is last in the Lash League?
Do we think? What's your guests?

1107
01:22:19.720 --> 01:22:27.680
I'm gonna look it up. Wait, who's actually been bad this year?

1108
01:22:27.680 --> 01:22:33.239
I want one hundred earned runs?
So let's find out. I think it

1109
01:22:33.239 --> 01:22:40.640
would be Freeland, Freeland or Colvin
is only fifth? How many fifth?

1110
01:22:42.279 --> 01:22:45.520
So let's think he's been bad.
I want to say, these guys have

1111
01:22:45.560 --> 01:22:50.920
all obviously pitched quite a lot.
Yeah to give up that many many runs?

1112
01:22:51.840 --> 01:22:56.479
Who have pitched in the NL?
And yeah, so I think Freeland,

1113
01:22:56.600 --> 01:23:04.600
I want to say rich Hill,
I want to say Michaelis. Michaelis

1114
01:23:04.760 --> 01:23:12.840
is third, Rachel is twelfth,
Freedom is fourteenth. Uh, what's the

1115
01:23:12.880 --> 01:23:15.399
pitch? You will know who it
is as soon as I say it's a

1116
01:23:15.439 --> 01:23:20.199
guy who is obvious. Oh,
that's really annoying. A guy who's a

1117
01:23:20.239 --> 01:23:30.479
guy who's definitely pitched all season and
absolutely sucked. Oh oh we are we

1118
01:23:30.680 --> 01:23:31.640
are we doing all of Major league? Or as I was just thinking,

1119
01:23:31.800 --> 01:23:35.159
I was thinking Henel or oh yeah, so yeah, Well, I mean

1120
01:23:35.199 --> 01:23:40.760
it's a bit tricky with so there's
one guy who's ahead of Michaelis who has

1121
01:23:40.800 --> 01:23:44.199
pitched in both leagues. All right, so that's Lanceletin, that's Lancelin.

1122
01:23:44.399 --> 01:23:46.039
Yeah. So in the NL,
Michaelis is first if you count la on

1123
01:23:46.159 --> 01:23:49.359
me, okay, and then obviously
then it has to be Jordan Miles.

1124
01:23:49.560 --> 01:23:55.920
It's Jordans one hundred and nineteen.
I don't think Corbyn's going to catch him,

1125
01:23:56.119 --> 01:24:00.199
no, but obviously Lyles doesn't even
have the He's yeah, he's got

1126
01:24:00.199 --> 01:24:03.920
what seventeen losses I think for the
season. So he's got seventeen losses.

1127
01:24:04.039 --> 01:24:09.720
Yeah, fair place, Jordan Lyles. He has trucked along. He has

1128
01:24:09.800 --> 01:24:15.680
in fact throwing three complete games,
which also leads to major eggs. Oh

1129
01:24:15.760 --> 01:24:18.600
yes, yea with what against Folio
Alcantra. Even though he's been kind of

1130
01:24:18.600 --> 01:24:21.039
a bit nap this year, it's
probably the only person that gets allowed to

1131
01:24:21.079 --> 01:24:29.199
go deep. Yeah. I always, I always enjoy looking at the leader

1132
01:24:29.239 --> 01:24:31.279
boards for complete games, and it's
just a bunch of guys tired these days,

1133
01:24:34.560 --> 01:24:40.960
bleat games. Yes, Sandy and
Jordan Lyles. Don't give me looking

1134
01:24:40.960 --> 01:24:43.319
at these leader boards. I'm going
to start seeing things that I know and

1135
01:24:43.399 --> 01:24:45.399
no annoy me like do you know
who leads to blown saves for the season,

1136
01:24:45.439 --> 01:24:51.760
dereuts Manuel Class, Manuel Glass.
You know he has nine losses for

1137
01:24:51.800 --> 01:25:00.640
this season. Yeah, this is
probably fitting. But I have almost almost

1138
01:25:00.640 --> 01:25:08.880
skipped over one final team, which
is the Detroit Tigers, who, yeah,

1139
01:25:09.039 --> 01:25:13.479
to be fair, you know,
hung around this season, and we

1140
01:25:13.640 --> 01:25:17.119
got a it does hung around count
if it's because like the whole league is

1141
01:25:17.159 --> 01:25:21.159
bad, so they can kind of
have hung around because they were You can

1142
01:25:21.199 --> 01:25:26.920
only beat the competition that's put in
front of your us. The Tigers didn't,

1143
01:25:26.960 --> 01:25:31.319
but they thought about it for a
bit and at Weeb of the Year

1144
01:25:31.399 --> 01:25:36.479
on Twitter suggested Parker Meadows walk off
for his first career home run, which

1145
01:25:36.560 --> 01:25:41.119
was one of the more specific moments
we got suggested. But there we go.

1146
01:25:41.199 --> 01:25:43.880
Do you have any Tigers you want
to highlight? I think I'm just

1147
01:25:43.880 --> 01:25:46.920
going to say Tick Scruble has been
the best picture in the majors since he

1148
01:25:47.000 --> 01:25:54.000
came back, hasn't it? Yeah? Yeah? Hands down? Like yeah,

1149
01:25:54.039 --> 01:25:58.960
I think yeah. And obviously just
being one of those players that have

1150
01:25:59.319 --> 01:26:02.439
kind of like how did possible things
coming through and then maybe not having like

1151
01:26:02.520 --> 01:26:05.880
the best moments. I think,
yes, Google coming through ass has been

1152
01:26:05.920 --> 01:26:11.640
a pretty phenomenal picture and a good
chance for them to actually really really something

1153
01:26:11.680 --> 01:26:14.880
to kind of make to build on. But now you just kind of hope

1154
01:26:14.880 --> 01:26:18.680
that you can get that he games
out of him. That's gonna be the

1155
01:26:18.960 --> 01:26:24.520
that's going to be the next question. Like he's obviously had like two two

1156
01:26:24.600 --> 01:26:27.960
good seasons. Like obviously I think
this season he's better than the last season

1157
01:26:27.960 --> 01:26:31.520
when it comes to like some of
the numbers. But he's now got a

1158
01:26:31.520 --> 01:26:36.239
couple of a couple of hundred innings
in him of good pitching. It's now,

1159
01:26:36.239 --> 01:26:40.680
can you get a couple of hundred
innings of good pitching in one season?

1160
01:26:43.439 --> 01:26:46.439
Yeah, definitely. The stuff is
there, Yeah, the talent is

1161
01:26:46.479 --> 01:26:49.840
there. Can we can we get
him Let's you know, let's get him

1162
01:26:49.840 --> 01:26:54.560
too hundred and sixty at least next
year. That would be great. We'll

1163
01:26:54.560 --> 01:26:59.640
see, But there's the making say, you know, he rode his back

1164
01:26:59.680 --> 01:27:04.199
again season. I think Sawyer Gibson
long looks quite interesting in his early going

1165
01:27:04.640 --> 01:27:11.560
Resultsan's flashed a bit. And the
other thing for Destroit fans to be positive

1166
01:27:11.600 --> 01:27:14.199
about. And we could have said
this about White Sox fans and we can

1167
01:27:14.199 --> 01:27:16.680
say this about Cleveland fans, And
we can say this about Royals fans.

1168
01:27:17.199 --> 01:27:21.439
That division is winnable, Like you're
going to see a team win eighty five

1169
01:27:21.439 --> 01:27:25.600
wins and win that division. And
the Twins aren't going to spend money to

1170
01:27:25.640 --> 01:27:31.920
get better because they spend their money
on career MM. So yes, like

1171
01:27:32.279 --> 01:27:36.840
any team that wants to kind of
try might win that division. So if

1172
01:27:36.840 --> 01:27:43.520
you believe that your team might try, it might be false hope, But

1173
01:27:44.760 --> 01:27:48.279
there's a division that's winning. Young
boys and girls hit the al Center will

1174
01:27:48.319 --> 01:27:54.039
be fun. You heard it here? First? Is Tom going to have

1175
01:27:54.079 --> 01:27:58.439
to make me a new postcard?
We definitely have to make him make here

1176
01:27:58.439 --> 01:28:03.479
a new firstcard if that happens.
Okay, So I think that's it.

1177
01:28:03.720 --> 01:28:06.880
Everybody else is still in it.
The Reds are still in it just for

1178
01:28:06.920 --> 01:28:13.439
the avoidance of wars out. It's
still possible. It's going to be an

1179
01:28:13.479 --> 01:28:16.119
interesting final week for them. Oh. The Padres are also still in it

1180
01:28:16.119 --> 01:28:18.880
because I put a better than at
thirteen hundred to one to win the ones.

1181
01:28:19.199 --> 01:28:27.159
It's the other day. It's technically
possible the Padres play the Giants two

1182
01:28:27.239 --> 01:28:32.079
nights, so one of those teams
is probably going to be eliminated. After

1183
01:28:32.119 --> 01:28:39.359
that game basically, but one of
them will still be in it, so

1184
01:28:40.840 --> 01:28:45.119
anything can happen. And they Asteroid
to play the Mariners as well this week,

1185
01:28:45.239 --> 01:28:48.720
so it's all happening, and we're
going to be back next Monday with

1186
01:28:48.880 --> 01:28:54.279
a full playoff preview. The playoff
field will be set, so we will

1187
01:28:54.319 --> 01:29:00.239
do our usual breakdown our bracket and
probably immediately be proven wrong. While Card

1188
01:29:00.239 --> 01:29:04.159
series a tendency to do this to
you, he still gonna win. That's

1189
01:29:04.640 --> 01:29:09.079
what I've said, probably for the
last year. They're gonna win. Yeah,

1190
01:29:09.119 --> 01:29:12.000
Houston, I've got to get the
Mariners out of the way first and

1191
01:29:12.479 --> 01:29:16.279
make sure they get into the postseason. But yeah, it should be a

1192
01:29:16.319 --> 01:29:21.760
fun final week in a wild card
race and the West Race very much up

1193
01:29:21.800 --> 01:29:27.680
for grabs, and we will certainly
break all of that down and break all

1194
01:29:27.760 --> 01:29:30.520
the playoffs down next Monday, So
rust anything to plug before we go,

1195
01:29:32.079 --> 01:29:35.479
not from writing perspective, but if
people want to to look at some of

1196
01:29:35.520 --> 01:29:41.720
the work that I have been doing
on commentating Jenny Sports Media is what we've

1197
01:29:41.760 --> 01:29:45.439
been doing to try and show people
British baseball that actually exists. Obviously we

1198
01:29:45.479 --> 01:29:48.119
did it for some of the finals
that we've had at the end of this

1199
01:29:48.199 --> 01:29:53.840
season, so please go check share
that so we can make more people be

1200
01:29:53.880 --> 01:29:58.840
aware that British baseball actually exists.
Otherwise, no, nothing for me,

1201
01:29:58.920 --> 01:30:03.479
but obviously there's great on our website
from some of the people who have given

1202
01:30:03.479 --> 01:30:09.319
their comments today. Obviously, like
the series from Atlanta throughout the whole entire

1203
01:30:09.319 --> 01:30:12.960
season has been a really great read
for me. The work being done on

1204
01:30:13.000 --> 01:30:17.960
the rivalry series with me and Gave
were asked politely to do something about Cleveland

1205
01:30:18.119 --> 01:30:23.079
and Cincinnati and we kind of both
responded, there isn't really a rivalry,

1206
01:30:24.479 --> 01:30:29.439
so I could have done it.
I could have done a thousand word piece

1207
01:30:29.520 --> 01:30:33.399
on why the fact that they actually
just get along, but quite what the

1208
01:30:33.479 --> 01:30:39.239
rivalry pieces were looking for. Yes, So Charlie Deeks, who has been

1209
01:30:39.239 --> 01:30:43.319
doing that great Atlanta series all year, and Josh Edwards did the Braves and

1210
01:30:43.359 --> 01:30:47.640
the Mets this week and rust whatever
to Gav. He would never say this,

1211
01:30:47.720 --> 01:30:53.000
but he talked about he wrote about
his twenty twenty three season highlight on

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the side of this week, which
was actually really an excellent piece. So

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I know Gave is probably very embarrassed
that I mentioned that, but you should

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go to get out because I agree. Phenomenal piece. Yeah, so do

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go and check that out. Batflips
and nerds dot com. You can follow

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us on Twitter at bat flips on
score Nerds, you can yell at us

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about the things that we missed about
your team this season, and we'll be

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back next week to break down the
playoff picture. So we will catch you

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then Bye,

