Welcome back, everyone to a new episode of You're Wrong with Molly Hemingway and David Harsani. Just a reminder, if you'd like to email the show, please do so at radio at the Federalist dot com. And if you enjoy our work here at the Federalist, you can show your support by visiting our website and joining the Federalist Community for an ad free website experience and access to exclusive content you don't want to miss. Exactly, David, is four dollars a month. It keeps the Federalist thriving, and I think everyone who's already joined the team. I love that you're with us, and I encourage everyone else to support our work if you are able. So, David, what did you think about last night's elections? I had many thoughts. First, is the Republicans again failed? You know, I would say it's a bad night in general for Republicans. I don't think anyone can say it was a good night. It was especially disturbed, though unsurprised by the Ohio results on what was at issue one. I forget how they was called, but it was a pro abortion amendment, but that was now part of the Ohio constitution. I think it is the third or fourth of these kind of amendments or single issue you know, single issue things in states that has won for the pro abortion side, So that I think was distressing. Otherwise, I don't know that it was as bad as everyone made it out to be. I don't know. So what were your general thoughts on I don't I kind of have mixed thoughts as well. I don't like a bunch of the results, but the only one that depresses me is the Ohio issue one result. I think Republicans and Conservatives are handling this issue horribly, and I'm starting to get angry about it. They seem to have this approach of not really doing or saying anything about abortion and just like seeding the ground to radical pro abortionists to frame the issue, to spend all the money on the issue, to do all the messaging on the issue. It's just it's very frustrating to watch it go down, particularly with such awful results. So if I could just take a little bit of a step back here. I saw that Hillary Clinton, who I think everyone really likes, you know, Hillary Clinton, had to tweet out this morning that said, there's one thing that sam Alito is correct about women still have political power. And so what she's referring to is the Dab's decision, which was a six ' to three decision or five to three to one decision, depending on how you look at it, that said that a right to a is not in the constitution, that that was a made up thing that people said. It is a beautifully written decision that is accurate, unlike the Roe v. Wade decision that even people who support abortion thought was like cartoonish and ridiculous and yet stayed on the books for fifty years, was very damaging to our country. And so sam Alito authors this decision that says, yeah, there's like no way you can argue that a right to abortion exists in the constitution. That's a historical and there's just like no basis for that. So it is returned to the States. And Hillary Clinton is like, yeah, it is. It is returning to the States. It's like, well, that is what he said. And that does mean that sometimes people will make decisions that you think are awful, but it remains true that the US Constitution does not include a right to abortion, and only idiots would say otherwise. Yeah, I mean that's right, even I just preface what I'm going to say by just noting this. Now, if you're pro life, it's not like a lot of people are blaming pro lifers for losing Republicans elections all over the place. Now, I just want to say I think that that claim is exaggerated, But I'll get to that in a second. But secondarily, or not secondarily, primarily, people who are pro life are going to be pro life. They're not even if they lose every election. They're still going to be pro life because it's a principled position. So you can change candidates, you can change messaging, but you can't change the fact that there is a huge faction of Republicans who are pro life. So you need better messaging, you need better arguments. I watched here where I Live, ad after ad that said that Republicans wanted to ban abortion completely, that they wanted to put women in jail, that they were you know, just these these lies, and then almost no ads refuting it. Certainly not effective, but almost never. That is my main point. I do not deny that there are a lot of people out there who love killing babies. That's absolutely true, and they will work hard, and they will spend money and they will manipulate, you know, messages in order to get other people to vote to help them kill unborn children and continue the scourge of abortion. I do not deny that. I also do not understand that Republicans are like, what if we put our heads in the sand, and not only do we not talk about this social issue, we don't talk about any social issue. Wouldn't that be a good idea? And that's what Virginia Republicans did. Every single ad I saw from a Democrat was like, don't you love abortion? Abortion is great? And anyone who opposes abortion or you know, like all this extreme stuff about Republicans. Not one Republican even mentioned the issue. Not one Republican said, actually, the Republican position in Virginia is a fifteen week protection which is about as moderate as you can get, that aligns with you know, public opinion, that is less stringent than all of Europe or most of Europe. Not a single person even engaged the issue. And I want to give one example, which is there's this guy who was running her state senate somewhere near northern Virginia, in northern Virginia named Sigura, and I know he had a lot of pro life backers and when he was asked on a radio or TV show like what about abortion, and he was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, don't worry about me. I'm not going to do anything on abortion. And it was like what a weird response, Like you have an opportunity to talk about how extreme democrats are, you have an opportunity to explain your position. And he was terrified or he seemed terrified, and it angered a lot of Republican voters, you know, some quite vociferously. You cannot win the to I will admit that, but you can fite it to a draw. And you're not going to fight it to a draw when you're outspent nine to one or fifteen to one, and you don't talk about it, like there's no way to win when you show fear and you don't talk about it. And yes, you do have to be very careful how you talk about it, and you do have to acknowledge the reality that a lot of people like killing babies, like you have to live in that reality. But there's a way to win this to a draw or maybe even win the issue. Yeah, I agree with that. I mean everyone I get attacked a lot for saying that. I just don't think it's as big an issue as people think. But I could just give you an example. First of all, there are plenty of politicians who support limitations on abortion that I find incredibly I wouldn't even say reasonable, but moderate, like fifteen weeks, like Glenn Younkin or Kemp in Georgia or DeSantis right and others. I think when you put abortion on in you know, with all the lies that go on and how you know, and just the spending that goes on lying about what Republicans believe on abortion, the you can win ballot issues, right. But when you have candidates who are not scared to give their position and give it an effective way and make compelling arguments about why you know, life is important and so on, they can win. So I'm not as worried. Let me give you an example one quick thing. Whenever a candidate, every candidate that lost yesterday on the who is pro life, the media would talk about abortion for like half the piece about it. But every pro life person who won abortion isn't even mentioned in the piece. So I'm not saying it's a winning issue. I'm not going to deluding myself. But it is not as I think detrimentalist people believe. There are plenty of states where people win on pro life messaging, and they can, you know, and they can and win in states like Ohio as well. So I'm still I'm still hung up on this thing I was trying to say earlier about Hillary Clinton, and I'm sorry, but it's just in my mind. Do you remember the Lily led Better decision out of the Supreme Court that dealt with like maternity leave pay or something like that. I actually don't remember exactly what the details were. I need to look it up right now. And the decision held that like technically, according to the law, there was no relief to be offered, but that if Congress wanted to change the law, they should do that to achieve the outcome they wanted. And I think Alito wrote that decision, and Ruth Bader Ginsburg was so upset and she felt like it was a violation of feminism that they hadn't like rewritten the law to preserve something for this woman who would sued. And she read her descent from the bench, which is kind of a way of saying screw you, you know, in civil court in the civilized world of the Supreme Court. Anyway, the next year, Congress changed the law and they passed the Lily Ledbetter Act that would have, if it had been passed earlier, achieved the outcome that they wanted in this case. And then they were like, see, we showed you. And it's like, wait, you showed the Supreme Court that you agree that you need to follow the law. Like what a great thing. And that's how I feel about all these abortion things, like we're showing you, Supreme Court. You're showing the Supreme Court that they were right with Dobbs that abortion should be returned to the people and their legislatures. That's what Yes, Okay, it's because they make no distinction between the judicial and the political. To them, the court is only working correctly if it's furthering their political goals. So you see it differently than they do. Right, they don't understand what you're saying because they're not principled about the court in that way. You know. So you know, I think that we all think we may have just us this in a podcast. I certainly wrote about it. You probably did you knew when Dobbs happened. When Roe was overturned that it was going to be a hard slot. It wasn't going to be easy. It wasn't you know? There were going to be huge setbacks in states like Colorado or New York where there's just abortion now till you know, till birth or after basically it's legal, and you know, and it's going to be a big fight. Okay, I know. By the way, do you remember what Nancy Pelosi said about when a life begins whenever woman decides? Is that what she said? No, she says when a mother takes the baby home from the hospital, that's when life begins. Why don't you remember that and put that in ads? You know what I mean? Like, why don't you showcase the votes of Democrats were literally every single one in the House and the Senate has voted for abortion on demand through all nine months of pregnancy, no protections for any kid. You can you can kill a baby for any reason. And they're like, yay, why not fight on that issue? I mean, and this relates to a bigger issue. Like you were saying, you don't think last night was as bad, and I generally agree. However, I realized last night that I loathe the Republican Party, Like, I hate them. They are the saddest excuse for a political party in history. Okay that's a little hyperbolic, but I'm like mad in the morning after what do they do? What does voting for them get you? Why? I mean, there are examples of things you get. Okay, so I'm not I'm not again being denying this. For instance, you get good judges frequently. What else, Like, I don't think that's being in Ukraine where we don't even know how much we've spent that. Like the American people are screaming out that they don't want to do this, this selection that right, I mean, this election was about local stuff. What does voting Republican get you? Once they get power? You know, it's like thumbs down on changing Obamacare. Like, they're just the saddest excuse for a political party. And I'm sick of them and I hate them, and I hate all of their leadership. They don't care. 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That's a problem. There's something wrong with how the Republican Party is approaching sort of the national picture. They have no real coherent message. Yeah, Mississippi was a close race, so I don't think they should be. It shouldn't be right. Mississippi should never be a close race. It's got to be something wrong either. I know that was an incumbent, right, I mean it was, but there were some issues he had that I think there was like corruption in his family or something. And they had a really awesome Democrat candidate, so they you know, I don't want to the polling was very close. Okay, So let's start about Kentucky. Speaking of hating everyone, So you have a hand pick candidate by McConnell, right, and then you have a candidate wrapping himself and Donald Trump. Rather from what I mean, I went through yesterday, I went through a bunch of his like stuff on his website, a bunch of his witter pose, a bunch of his interviews just to see, and he's constantly talking about them. You know that Donald Trump who endorsed him, which is fine, Donald Trump was the former president's running for the presidency, but he so that guy must have been just the word. I'm not I don't know what goes on Kentucky, but he must have been just the worst candidate to have such a poor showing in Basically, I think the first thing you have to remember is that he was running against an extremely popular guy whose dad was an extremely popular two term I think governor of the state. So the name is gold in Kentucky for this year. He also had a massive war chest that the Republicans didn't have. That does confuse me why Mitch McConnell didn't send direct more donations to his guy. So, yes, Daniel Cameron, who I actually like just fine, is a literal protege of Mitch McConnell, and then he ran as a Trump Republican. I think that's what you're trying to say. So, like, he worked for McConnell for years McConnell sort of installed him as the nominee. They are very close friends. I sort of thought that race would go better because I was assuming for a while that Mitch McConnell was just waiting for him to be governor. So so Mitch McConnell could step down since he's having so many health problems, which I actually don't think was his plan anyway, but you know, that's kind of I sort of assumed this is his plan. Get Daniel Cameron in his you know, literal protege, and then he can retire. But I don't think we can ignore that Basher is beloved. Like that's a state that McConnell won by twenty points and Trump won by thirty points. And Trump is still ahead in a Trump Biden matchup by thirty points. So the idea that a Trump endorsement in a state that you won by thirty points would hurt you is so illogical. I don't know what to say about it. You have to kind of think, and even with McConnell, who, like nationally is reviled, but in Kentucky is still able to win double digit elections, you know, So I don't think the fact that either of them supported him was a particular problem. But I see your point, which is you can't be both well, not even that. You have to be your own man or woman. You have to be your own person this you can't be driven by allegiances. You should be driven by issues. I'm not saying you're always going to win. I get that, But every I travel a little bit and everywhere, and I for a long time I haven't seen political ads because I don't watch like normal television, but lately I have to watch sports, and every ad aimed at Republicans basically is about Donald Trump or abortion. Those are the two things that obviously, you know, are unpopular among a lot of people. Maybe independence. I just I think you have to be your own I'm not saying you have to. I get that you can't. You know, you don't have to campaign against Donald Trump when you're running for governor and you can say he endorsed you, but you have to be your own person. And it just seems to me like it's he's He's a You could either call Trump a black hole or the center of the universe, but he is very hard to escape even if you want to. But you have to do it. I think with smart policies. I think I don't know, I get a lot of blowback on this. I think young Cain actually did a really good job and you know, to try to balance he's in a blue state, but also heavily you know, there are a lot of suburbs there, and usually tried to balance issues that mattered with you know, issues that mattered to hardcore Republicans. And you know, I thought he did a decent job. And you know, so I don't think Virginia had a terrible night, is what I'm saying. I think normally this is what you would have expected here, and yeah, I'm in cases so just gave it away. But yeah, I am. I think that Virginia could have gone much worse. You know, I think we we should also remember that the idea here was that this would be the presidential launching pad for Glenn Youngkin would be how he performed in last night's elections. So clearly that didn't happen. But that wasn't going to happen anyway, Was that real? I mean, did you think he really thought this election he was going to I mean maybe in the future, but I don't think he Yeah, I am friends with some of his biggest fans and supporters and people who want who wanted him to run for higher office this cycle, and they definitely thought this is, this is this would be the case for it. And it would have been, I guess an okay case for it if it had gone better and it didn't. But I keep thinking, what if he hadn't put a lot of resources and efforts into into winning the House in the Senate, it would have been very bad, if that makes sense. Like, so there's that, but I but but when people think about how he did in that first election, one of the things is that the election kind of happened to him. So he ran a very Carlisle Group kind of like campaign. It was very you know, disciplined and very on message about the issues that Republicans feel safe talking about. And then at the end it became this huge parents' rights issue coming out of COVID where the government schools had put parents through so much. Most government schools were closed down in Northern Virginia throughout the COVID pandemic and their kids were put through horrible things, and then that caused all the problems for the kids. And then they also had the issue where they didn't just have boys like attacking girls and girls bathrooms. They had Democrat prosecutors going after the parents who complained or doing nothing about sexual assault from boys who identify as girls who were in girls you know. So this became a huge motivating issue for parents. And one of the things that surprised me about how Youngkin and the Republicans ran this is they didn't just not talk about abortion. They didn't talk about education or social issues or parents like all the things that had worked so well for them just a few years prior. And I don't really understand why that was. First of all, I just want to say that people kind of bash Youngkin. I'm not saying you're doing that as kind of falling in at the right time and falling into the right issues. But I think it showed that he could be nimble about these things. I don't think that that you had the same resonance on those, you know, school issues this time around as you did. I think that's past so, but and I do think that those though those issues are important, the things you mentioned now, I don't think they're at the top of the minds of voters in local elections all the time. You know, you know, I think economic security, you know, they want low interest rates, they want you know, taxes still matter. I know everyone's like, oh, it's not nineteen eighty anymore, but actually people do care about that. It matters to them. High property taxes are a problem for people, you know, it inhibits them from buying the house they want, so on. So I think those things are actually quite important. And he kind of though I admit, he did not seem to stress those other issues that you mentioned. He didn't back away from them either. It wasn't like he was still pro life. He never he said fifteen weeks was a reasonable place to be on that. And so I don't know. I just I'm not saying he would work in Ohio. I'm not saying Youngkin is going to be you know, but for a state like Virginia, I think in a state like maybe Georgia, in a state like Florida, I think those kind of guys are or you know, women are a right kind of candidate. And that's another thing. You know, if the Republican Party wants to be successful, they're going to have to make room for all kinds of different sorts of candidates like Democrats, do you know, if you're in the rust belt or whatever, you need a different kind of tone, a different kind of focus than you do in Virginia or you know, Arizona. And Republicans can't you know, like this demand that everyone sound the same and just go bang the table and talk about the same issues. I think it's a problem though. You do need some coherent or some coherent message for a party, Like you're right, what is the Republican Party about this today? Is the first thing that comes to mind to me For me a lot of the times is Donald Trump. And to Trump fans probably the first thing that comes to their mind is Ukraine. That's not good. Those aren't issues people you know rally or around it, you know who aren't hardcore Republicans. So anyway, so it wasn't a great naive but it wasn't the worst night there. What else happened we did Ohio, Kentucky, Virginia, Mississippi. Yeah, that's the other thing is like you can overinterpret everything because there was such a limited turnout, and you also had this weird thing where a lot of Republicans were winning small local races are some funny ones. Yeah, they swept a Long Island for the for you know, where I grew up. For the first time, Suffak County in a long time has a Republican running the county. I think a place like that really has felt it's so expensive to live there, and but there's still a lot of middle class people. So I think that there as far as like bidnomics and that issue, it's probably was a big drive. I'm just assuming it. Making this assumption. I've been you know, dived into the numbers, but it seems to me like that would probably drive Republican successes there, and that actually is something you know, I think that can be very good for you know, good for Republicans in these suburban areas. You know. 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Biden case to this what he initiated that, and it's now at the Supreme Court, and free speech is his big animating issue and one of the things that he really cares about it for is because he thinks it creates peace in the country when people are allowed to speak freely and get results for it. And when you are sort of control the means of communication, you are failing to create that like release valve that is so important for people to be able to, you know, just like say what they think, debate with each other, and then maybe get political action to change as a result. And the censorship industrial complex, which that case, like when that case began, they had a sense that there was censorship originating from the federal government. They had no idea how widespread and extensive, and it was on so many different issues, from election integrity to COVID pandemic to just everything, like everything that people vote on has been suppressed or manipulated so that left wing speech is elevated and right wing speech is suppressed. But I kind of think it relates to election integrity too. Like Democrats have spent forty years and got a huge break with COVID to changing all the rules about how we vote, so that instead of it being sort of, hey, we're all motivated to have a change, so we're going to get ourselves to the polls and make a vote, they've changed it to you might not know there's an election, you might not know you're a citizen, you might not know what city you live in, but we're going to get a ballot from you into the ballot box. You know. So you've got really super like unengaged voters who are managing to get ballots into the box. It completely changes the way we operate as a country. And one of the things that it does is it means like it doesn't matter if people are upset about bidnomics, It doesn't matter if people's grocery bills are unsustainable, it doesn't matter what they think. Democrats kind of just control elections and they get ballots into the box. That is a recipe for failure of a republic. And I just want to point out that there's an election component, but there's also this speech component that we should probably talk about. Yeah, oh, this is a good topic. So I just want to preface it with two things. One is that you remember everyone saying listen, Twitter is a private company. They can have whoever they want to speak. I actually agree with that. However, even the biggest squish on Earth or the biggest trump pater on Earth who cares about free speech, would be upset that the government of the United States, the most powerful institution on Earth, is asking private companies to censor speech that is a clear violation of the First Amendment in spirit and in text. And there's no way that anyone thinks that that is who believes in the First Amendment thinks that's right. A just a quick note on what you're talking about. Voters. I totally agree that the laws we have in place in states with the mail in ballots, and you know, I'm pretty radical on this. I just want one day of voting, and I want everyone who needs to vote to show up unless they have a very good reason not to. We incentivize bad civic habits and bad citizenship to be able to just like get something in the mail, not think about it, not put any effort forth and just put a check on a box and send it back. I mean, the most minimal, minimal effort on earth to vote means that you don't actually think voting is sacred. You think you know, you don't care. So I'm against all that. I agree with you. We're just incentivizing the worst kind of stuff. So anyway, let's talk a little bit more specifically about the censorship. So, and I especially, I am going to enjoy this because you not that I enjoyed that. I just enjoyed the idea you were one of the people who were targeted over tweets. So basically, and there is this what's it called the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency and a bunch of others I think who kind of teamed up with was it in Stanford? These people who were kind of how can I say, targeting, so, you know, alleged misinformation disinformation in tweets, and then what were they doing asking the companies to censor those tweets? Correct? Yeah, so the way censorship. So it's the most important issue. People really need to get their heads around this. There are a ton of federal agencies who who in recent years have started ramping up censorship of American speech, and they do this in a variety of different ways. So one thing they did was kind of either explicitly or implicitly set up outside government organizations to monitor American speech and act as sort of like a pretend neutral party that would direct social media companies on what to censor of American speech. And these things would be flagged either by the government or by these outside companies, and they overwhelmingly targeted conservative speech. Because of this Missouri v. Biden lawsuit, there was discovery, you know, where you get to go in and see what companies are doing or what different groups are doing, and this week came out like kind of a messy database of some of the speech they had centered censored for just that like week after the election, really just like five days after the election, and they were flagging all sorts of things. And not that we didn't know this at the time, we did, we even wrote about it, but they were massively suppressing my speech and Sean Davis, our CEO's speech, and just federalist speech in general. So the First Amendment, of course protects Americans freedom of speech. It also protects American freedom of the press. So this is a violation of both of those things in the First Amendment, But I also thought it was funny. One of the stories that they had flagged was a story about how Johan Johann Sebastien box music is so beautiful it serves as a as evidence for the existence of God. And I was like, wow, they're really there's like working their way through the entire First Amendment, also suppressing you know, was there a freedom of religion? Was there a reason? Do they offer reasoning behind each one? I think they do. I personally think that thing got flagged. As I mentioned, it's a messy database. I think that thing got flagged because it was showing up on a Facebook page with some of our other stories. But that's how they were identifying it. They were clearly using sophisticated like crawling equipment to figure out exactly where stories were being spread and how they were being spread. And it's just, you know, it's horrible, and this is during an election, you know, the election still had their people were still counting ballots in some states, they were still accepting ballots. Like this was while an election was going on and while it was being litigated, and they suppressed Yeah it was, it was It was really bad. And it wasn't just like my speech. There was also I think Senator Tom Tillis declared victory and they were like, he can't do that. Pretty much every politician declares victory like when they think it's in there interest, and they just they just identified him because North Carolina, of course, was one of the states that had been targeted for election shenanigans on the left. And it's just it's just horrified. It's the worst attack on freedom of speech in our country's history, not because of like even the type of speech that censored, but just because it's so much like I kept thinking about this, this was just a small period and like one of the databases and I'm in there nine times, you know, just for a few days. How many times has my speech been flagged? And you know me like, I'm a very careful tweeter, I'm very careful about what I say. I'm very careful about what I allege, like that's my stock in trade. So it's insane, it's insane. And no have you noticed that no one, no one in the media even cares. And these are supposedly people who care about the First Amendment. They seem very interested in the First Amendment rights of people who celebrate hamas after they bake babies and ovens. That is like that, then all of a sudden, the First Amendments the most important thing that has ever been written. But when there's a widespread censorship of political speech right before an election, they're fine with that. I mean, it's just insane. And I'm not saying take away the hamas people's rights. I'm just yeah, I'm just saying that it's funny what they care about or when the First Amendment matters. Sorry, no, I just said I don't want to get off this topic, but I want to. I was thinking last night when Carrie Severino and I wrote the Kavanaugh book this on the confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh, there was this issue that became a huge like Washington Post, CBS News issue where one of the one of the people working on the Kavanaugh confirmation was this woman who's like Jewish and Mexican, and the Washington Post accused her of anti Semitism or no of white supremacy because they detected they thought that if you looked like a certain way, it kind of looked like she was making an okay symbol with her hands, and clearly the only reason someone would do that is to signal racism, which is rampant on the right, and they're trying to put a white supremacist on the Supreme Court. I mean, this was like a literal media thing that happened, and I was thinking about, like how preposterous and absurd that was, and yet it appeared in the Washington Post, and yet it was in CBS News and now they're like, gosh, I don't know about this. From the River to the Sea, I think that seems like a nice phrase. I think it's a cool, nice phrase. Nobody's like, nobody can detect any racism or anti semitism at all in people saying i'd like all the Jews, you know out of here. Yeah, I mean that the New York Times, and I just want to say I predicted this would happen when I first heard it. The New York Times said it's just a call free quality or something or where. The people who say it don't see it necessarily as genocidal. They see it as a call for you know, equality and the voice of the Palestinian people. But yeah, yeah, and the person you mentioned, I forget her name now, but she's actually in a book I'm working on. It is just it was complete paranoia. But you know, it's funny as well that no one would say so when you tweet something that you know about an election, right, and they know ahead of time that what you're saying can't possibly be true, even though they've done actually no research on the issue at all. But yet they know, and they can bore into the soul of a woman who does the okay sign to someone else in the crowd and run with stories insinuating that she's a white supremacist. She's a Jewish Mexican lawyer, and that's fine. And there's no correction, there's no we're sorry, we almost destroyed your life, you know, none of that. And this happens, as my book will show over and over again to people. And the only way actually to really save your reputation is to start suing these people. I mean, that is really the only way to go. Now. Yeah, I agree, and I think that you all start seeing that a lot. I mean, God bless Eric Schmidt and the State of Missouri, in the state of Louisiana that began this case that's now being picked up by the Supreme Court. About some of the federal government censorship efforts. But this is republic ending stuff, so people need to take it as seriously as they possibly can. So I think a good segue might on this might be to talk a little bit about the some of the Israel stuff that has to do with speech as well. Unless we have more to say on the censorship story, well, just that it's important that people understand that free speech rights aren't only for the people offering the speech. When when I am censored, it's actually an attack on everyone's free speech rights. Or when Sean Davis is censored, or when Tom Tellus is censored, whoever is censored, it's not just about them. Because in America, the way our founders set things up was that people needed to be free to pursue the truth. That's why all of these things are together in the First Amendment, Speech, press, religion. People need to be free to hear arguments in order to determine what the truth is. And so when you censor an argument, you're attacking everybody. You're attacking the entire country that therefore cannot hear or fully hear fully engage with an argument. And this was something that was so important to our founding. It's also really important for tolerance. It's something where if you don't have it, things break down very quickly. And also the more that people are the more that this the sort of regime limits speech, limits press that's not propaganda, press, limits the right of people to assemble, limits the right of people to have legal counsel. You are basically begging for a very bad situation, either a completely dystopic authoritarian regime or a lot of people opposing that in ways that are outside the political process. And that's not good. And so I just wish people could care about their country and their children and their grandchildren more. Like what we have here is very precious and difficult to maintain. And we have allowed really bad people to take over the Academy and our corporate media and all of our institutions, and they are wearing these, you know, protections we have as a skin suit while destroyed, while taking away rights from their political opponents. And it's about as bad. I mean, I'm not saying it can't get a lot worse, because it can, but we're certainly headed that way if people don't strongly resist it, Like God bless those House Republicans for caring about censorship and releasing this information. Why is every Republican not screaming to the rooftop about it? Why is every Republican not screaming to the rooftop about how you can't attack people for giving legal representation. How that's like an attack on the constitution itself. Why aren't the elite conservatives setting up protection for everyone who's rights to being run rough shot over, you know, working together to think about how they can fight what the Department of Justice and these like completely out of control prosecutors are doing. Not just like against Donald Trump. I get you, you hate Donald Trump, blah blah blah. Therefore we have to destroy the Republic because you hate Donald Trump, But like what about everybody else? A party and a movement that does not protect its people deserves to die. And that's what's happening, it seems like. And the bad thing about that is the country is at risk of death as a result. Hey, y'all, this is Sarah from the Sarah Carter Show. Thanks for listening to the Federalists Radio hour. We all have a heartfelt reason to support our blood pressure. In fact, more than half the US population would benefit from blood pressure support. 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She was centered the other day yesterday by the House, which I think is a big waste of time, frankly, but whatever. So now I hear all these Democrats coming out and saying, oh, my lord, you know you're undermining her right to free expression. Now you're not. People have a right to censure those who defend murderers, for instance, And these same people, of course don't care that you're censoring people on, you know, from having their say. In other realms. It's scary to take on these powerful people, but that's the whole point of working with other people to fight back. Yeah, I mean, it's just thinking about the media right now. And I think you were alluding to the fact that their Hamas story was just about the hospital, was a complete line and you know almost you know, fueled even more violence and stuff. And they constantly do in this I you know, I don't want to go off on other topics, but just the way the media just one quick example, the way the media covered Charlotte's Listen, Charlotte'sville. That march was terrible. Someone died, those people were Nazis. There are hundreds of charlottesville Is going on right now all across the country, where people are attacking, mobs are attacking people surrounding that people. A man was killed and murdered in Los Angeles, and look at how the media covers it like it's just you know, like it's nothing, the way they covered BLM. It's just this conspiracy to constantly underplay the violence of the left and exaggerate as they do January sixth, by the way, as you know, the exaggerate the danger of a political riot. It is just insanity. And I'm not sure how you fight back anymore. I wanted to. I hope the media is destroyed. I hope colleges and higher education is essentially destroyed. These big schools are just I just try to turn it out dim wits who are pro murder and anti Semites and anti Americans. And they're going to be running everything. They're going to be in the state's apartment, Molly, They're going to be running the censorship regime, you say, going to them decades. And I was just going to say, since I'm airing my grievances, and I would like to apologize for how depressed and angry I am today. I also think that one of the big problems that the conservative movement has is that it is filled with stupid cowards. And I'm thinking again, you know, you go back to like the Brett Kavanaugh situation, and I'm on, you know, some of these lists serves that you're on with other journalists or other people on the right. And I remember when the Washington Post, when the Washington Post came out with their smear accusing Brett Kavanaugh of you know what, it would eventually become their smear that he was a serial gang rapist roaming the streets of suburban Maryland. The first story was about this, like anonymous accuser out of San Francisco, you know, turns out to be Christine Blasi Ford. And it was alleging wrongdoing in high school. And it was written in a really like sort of crafty, what you call Potemkin journalism kind of way, where it's like written to make it seem bad, but you're kind of like, what is it even saying, And the moment it came out, someone with a once prominent publication on the right that you're familiar with, was like, gosh, this sounds bad. If this is true, this is bad, And I'm like, what, how stupid? How stupid do you have to be? Like, I'm old enough to remember what they did to Clarence Thomas. So when a media organization runs a Clarence Thomas up, I'm smart enough to kind of see it. And it's like, yeah, okay, I'm willing to believe that a well like a beloved federal judge with like a stellar record and a stellar reputation was secretly a gang rapist. Like I'm willing to believe it. I'm sure as bleep not willing to believe it. On the word of the Washington Post, which lies and lies and lies and so like when we're dealing like so, then what I have to do is like bolster these people on the right, like, hey guys, remember this, remember that, and probably it's not happening. How much better would it be if the people who were supposedly leading our side were just immediately smart enough to be like, this is stupid. They act like people are operating in good faith, no matter if they have been proven not to be operating in good faith for like a thousand years, And that level of stupidity or maybe cowardice is fatal to a movement, and I'm sick to death of it, Like I'm sick of it. I'm sick of being like the only publication or one of the only people or one of the only publications that could like look at this and go I think that's an op I think that's not true, or like thinking about these issues rather than just pretending like these people who want you dead and will do anything to achieve that are operating in good faith. Yeah, I mean it was just exactly like Clarence Thomas, right. It was the exact same operation, the leaking, the build up, the waiting, and you know, you don't even have to say this is stupid. You just have to say, you know what, I'm really skeptical about this. This seems a little too perfect, this seems a little too weird. But you didn't even get that from all the bare minimum. That's the bare minimum you should be able to accomplish, okay, or like, no, you should be skeptical of all things for sure. Yeah, I'm sorry. Right now in the Senate, you have one guy standing up and saying, gosh, Biden did this completely illegal and one billion percent a moral abortion policy where he's trying to get taxpayer dollars to fund abortions contrary to the law and all president in the military. And one guy stands up and says, hey, stop that, or I'm going to put a hold on easy confirm easy yeah confirmations on your promotions so you can still promote people, but you're actually gonna have to vote on it and get people on the record. And it's one thing for Biden and Senator Schumer and Democrats in the Senate to be upset with Tommy Tubberville over this, but he's currently facing a complete onslaught from Dan Sullivan and Joni Ernst and Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham and a few other people who are like desperate to help our military which doesn't really know how to fight wars effectively right now and is filled with like awful leadership that care more about DEEI than winning wars. They're they're doing everything in their power to fight the one guy who's doing something on behalf of Republican voters, Like they all deserve. This party deserves its failure when Mitch McConnell, supposedly the top Republican in the country, can't even stand up for his voters on something this easy. Yeah, it's incredible that like Sullivan and all these people have shown more passion, more creativity undermining Tarberville than they did or do attacking the administration, which is which is skirting the law clearly for abortion in the military, which is again, you know, it's just it's it's been forever policy. I don't think there's ever been a policy where any anyone pays for abortions and government in that way. So yeah, it's you know, Tumberville is brave. That's actually a brave stand He's taken. People pretend to be brave when they're part of a crowd or whatever. But he now has to stand against the other party, the administration and his own party, and he has not budge. So I actually admire that, and I think it's a perfectly legitimate thing for him to do in a legitimate issue. The administration should should back down or come to some agreement. You can't, you can't know what? What what? Yeah? Good luck getting the administration to back down. Why would they? Republicans are on the wrong side. Tonys is like doing her best to screw over her colleague, her supposed colleague, I suppose, like same party colleague. Anyway, Sorry so angry. No, I don't even know what we're talking about, but that was good. That was righteous rage. I admire your passion. Yeah, it's it's a mess and the Republican that you know. Actually, it comes back to something else we were talking about that the Republicans do not have any kind of coherent messaging on abortion or anything else. This is a slam dunk issue. Most Americans, when you look at polls, do not want government paying for abortions. How many people do you even think out there understand what's going on with Teberville? I would tell there are entire stories where they don't even mention why he's holding these things up, like the Washington Post, which ran an entire story on the issue without including the word abortion propaganda press but not targeted by our censorship industrial complex. So they get their stories amplified and elevated, and we at the Federalists get suppressed within an inch of our lives. So on that note, I would just like to thank everyone again for like listening and reading and sharing. And it's wonderful that there are so many good people out there who are and please subscribe to are to our to our location. Actually I want more email. I love emails from people. We get the best emails. Did you read that one from the colorad person? Yeah, I don't exactly remember what he said, something about how great you are. Wait, maybe it was she I'm not sure. Maybe do you do that thing where like I've always noticed when when I had a baby, men would always call it a hymn, and I was like, oh, they're identifying with the baby. Like I'd have a pink dress and a pink bow and they'd be like, he's so cute. Really, it is funny when you have a baby and it just looks like an old bald man, and you have to put that giant pink like bow on its head just to make sure people know it's a girl. So while we were while we were doing this, I just got word that one of the matches that I had worked on a few years ago they already had one baby and another baby is coming. And I'm so, so so excited. Sorry, Hey, I told you at the time we should do a matchmaking episode where we'd like pick some bachelors and bachelorettes and pull them together and through the Federalist Bachelor whatever that show's called. If you want to email us, by the way, it's radio at the Federalist dot Com. I think that Colorado Email is one of those where Molly's the best. But I'm really just confused why I agree with David so often Right at the end, Yes, I loved it, But we don't even disagree that often. I mean, I think we disagree on specifics, not the big picture. Right, Is that fairnasying? So yeah? Yeah. The watch Dot on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski every day. Chris helps unpack the connection between politics and the economy and how it affects your wallet. Have you been thinking about your home as an investment this whole time. If it's just another bill for you, do it the right way. If you've been stressed about paying back the massive loan you took out for it, it's not certain you'll sell it for more than what you paid for it. Don't become mortgage poor. Whether it's happening in DC or down on Wall Street, it's affecting you financially. Be informed. Check out the Watch Dot on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast. I don't even know what we're talking about, so I don't know where to go. I'm watching any movies. Have you been listening to any good music going into the culture and I want to get my list? Well, yeah, I have been listening to music. I'm not even gonna talk about it because it's obscure and no one's gonna they just go get letters about how terrible everything is. So, but I will talk about a movie I saw from the nineties that I enjoyed. It's a Woody Allen movie called Everyone Says I Love You. Have you seen that? I don't remember, I don't think, so what is it? So? It's a musical it's his only musical has Julia Robertson and is it Ed Norton? Yeah, Ed Norton's in it, and Tim Roth is in it, and Drew Barrymore and a bunch of people are in it, and they it's it's cute like they sing, but they're not singers, and he lets it sort of, he lets them just sing, and it's it's imperfect and the dancing's imperfect, and it's it's just it's a nice movie. I mean when I watch it, whenever I watch Woody Allen, now, I'm like there's a serious moral screw loose in his head or something, especially about how he deals with marriage. For instance. You know, divorced people always just best friends, and marriages are kind of like these business dealings that your ego from one to the next, and you know, there's children all over the place and everyone's happy, and that's not how the real world is at all, maybe not even in his world is it that way? So I always find that off putting, but I do obviously thinks he's a genius. So I did enjoy that movie. Do you have anything you want to go back and forth? Or do you want me to just go through the list. I'm just like in this book, so I do not have I have not been able to watch anything. I will say one of my kids is watching Family Ties, which I recommended Open eighties. So yeah, she'll like ask me questions about like what decade was that made in? You know, she's not young enough to like or she's not old enough to like quite Rock, you know, when Reagan exists. So she's really curious about the Alex p. Keaton care character. And anyway, it's just fun to like in general, having children is super, super fun and one of the things that I find so enjoyable about it is like getting to relive your youth by seeing how they interact with things, like particularly when they're super young, because you don't remember being a baby or two or three, but you can kind of like be like, oh, this is what it was like for me, and you see how they discover and learn. But it even keeps going. I have to imagine it keeps going as their adults too, where you get to yeah, kind of like watch from a distance and take joy in it for sure. For sure, Ca, I give talk a little bit about sitcom since you mentioned that. So I'm obsessed with the like intros of sitcom. So one time I had compiled all these seventies intro songs. So there's like good Times, Welcome Back, Codder, Archie, You Bunker, It's a show called has a different name, Chico and the Man. Right, they're all so gritty. They're about like urban life. They're about like overcoming you know, all kinds of you know, racial tensions whatever. And then the eighties was the most like milk toast shows on Earth about suburban families constantly who are perfect. Like I didn't realize how conservative the eighties really were, like the Seevers and the Family Ties and The Cosby Show and the like perfect families where everything was working out and like the troubles they had were like their friends was doing drugs but they didn't do it whatever. Like it was so like if you think about one day to time, not one day at a time, what is it one day at a time. That show in Indianapolis whatever, where like the Single Mom and it's about abortion and it's just so such a downer. Older shows in the eighties were so conservative. So anyway, it was something I was thinking about the other day, since you mentioned Family Ties. I am very sensitive to how people think that whatever time they grew up in was the best time. And I say that because my parents are boomers, So boy, did you get I just like boomers really think everything was great for them, and to some extent they have an argument. But I would say eighties sitcom television was pretty awesome and there are a lot of examples of it, including Cheers, which is the best sitcom ever. And it's funny. How like at the end of the eighties you had Seinfeld, right, and that kind of changed TV where everything became very gen xy, sarcastic, you know, groups of friends, not married, single people, you know what I mean. Like it was very different from the eighties, which is all about like family, you know, very doing the right thing. I only watched one Seinfeld when it ran, and it was the last Seinfeld, and I never watched Friends. I was thinking about that because that guy Matthew Perry who was in Friends died over the last week and I never saw a single episode of it. Just weird, really like very popular. I was really active in an outside my house kind of way when those were running. I was enjoying my youth. What are you saying? So I just like never saw it. I was not a fan of friends, and the reason I was not a fan of friends, well, there are many reasons, but one of them was that this idea that New Yorkers could live in giant penhouse apartments but have like part time jobs was so offensive to me when I knew that they were living in closets in the real world that I was annoyed by it. But also I didn't find it that funny. I did love Seinfeld. I you know, it reminds me of so my husband and one of my kids do these really annoying things where they learn about a particular area, or they know about a particular area because they lived there, and then they criticize a movie for not having like the precise transportation. So Mark will always be like, you can't. You can't get on that highway from that tunnel and see that every time. And then the same kid, who was sick so that's why she had been watching some stuff, she was like, I don't think this part of National Treasure is accurate. I don't think this party would have taken place at that location. It's like it's it's a movie. There's so many movie lights like this on the documents your career. There are