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And I just turned around and I
call ass out of there. I was

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done. I wasn't deal with them. The hypocrisy of the cult is one

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of the things that turned me away
the quickest. When I turned my head

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lights on, it turned and looked
at us. And one of the things

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I remember the most, where the
eyes were going red. I see an

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orb of light. It is just
circling these steps like it is waiting for

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me. And he begins to tell
them that he saw UFO. They're basically

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like, what are you talking about. That's seven foot up on a tree,

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peeking around it, and that's where
I saw the top of the muzzle,

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nose and the eyes. As soon
as I made eye contact with this

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thing, it don't like death.
Welcome back to another new episode of Tenfoil

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Tells. I'm your host Brandon Right
tonight's episode, We're going to be joined

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by my guests Nancy Thames. Nancy
reached out to me a while back.

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She's had some experiences involving possible inter
dimensionals and extraterrestrials. She has a different

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outlook on it than a lot of
other people have had these experiences, so

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I definitely want to have Nancy on
here to talk a little bit about what

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she's experienced. But before we bring
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To make sure just to reach out and

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we'll get something schedule for a future
episode. I did receive an email here

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recently. A listener name Rebecca had
reached out to me with some advice about

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using black Obsidian try and help out
with some of the negative energies that could

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be around here. So I'm definitely
looking into that. Give a shout out

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and Bruise and Spirits Too up in
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On October nineteenth, I'll be at
Pair Unity six here in my home area

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of Miami County. That'll be at
the Miami County four h Fairgrounds. That

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is free to the public, all
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twenty sixth, I'll be in Crawfordsville, Indiana for the first annual crawfords Will

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paranormal convention that is also free to
the public. The two events in October.

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I will also be guest speaking at
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and listen to me talk for a
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stop in all the events. I'll
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and I'll also have my recording rigs. So if you want to talk to

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me there, want to tell me
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can do that. Just stop by
the booth. We'll sit down talk about

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it. But I think now we're
gonna go ahead and bring Nancy on.

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Looking forward to see what she's got
to say. Hope you guys enjoy the

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conversation, So sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. I'd like

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to take this time and welcome my
guest to night, Nancy Tams. Thanks

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for coming on here and talking to
me. Thank you. I'm Brett glad

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to be here. Hope you're doing
well. I am doing well. Hope

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you are too. Yeah, you
reached out to me a while back.

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You mentioned some stuff that piqued my
interest. So if you want to let

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the audience know a little bit about
yourself and what it is you're going to

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talk about and you go ahead,
Okay. My name is Nancy Tams.

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I am a lifelong contactee with positive
extraterrestrials and interdimensional extraterrestrial beings. And this

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started my first conscious memories of all. This started that I remember was around

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two to three years old, and
so this has been happening to me all

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my life and throughout the years.
Most of my life I didn't understand.

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I knew it was happening, but
I didn't understand why. I didn't understand

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the purpose. So I grew up
in a period of time where you couldn't

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really talk about these things, and
I was told by my family not to

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talk about these things. I was
very active in school, very active in

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sports, very active in Girl Scouts
and all kinds of activities, and basically

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I was told that you cannot talk
about these type of things to anyone else.

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And I think my parents just kind
of thought that I had a very

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vivid imagination. They just kind of
knocked it off, like, well,

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you know, it's kind of like
some people considered their child having an imaginary

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friend or something, only my situation
was a bit different than that. But

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I think they thought that it was
very vivid dreams. So basically what would

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happen is they would come. Always
there would be three, and it would

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be three grades that would come to
get me all my life up until presently

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they still there's the same three,
one in particular as a female grade,

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and I am bonded with her,
and I know now I didn't know all

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my life, but I know now
that she is a hybrid that was designed

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by the interdimensionals and the tall grades, and they designed her to come and

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get contactees. Interdimensionals and extraterrestrials have
a problem with the density on Earth and

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they don't really like it. It's
uncomfortable for them, so they created this

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hybrid and it's created in their DNA
so they can withstand our density and come

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back and forth. So basically that's
really all she does is come and get

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me, get me see situated.
A lot of times what they would do

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when I was young, they would
take a hand scanner and not touch me

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with it, but take it and
go from head to toe to head,

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up and down. And I would
be laying on the bed and all of

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a sudden, I would notice that
my body would start to float up.

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And I never understood why or you
know what exactly was going on. But

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when this would happen, even though
I was purposely keeping my eyes closed to

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a boyd looking at them, I
would look down and see that I was

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physically floating off the bed and my
body was I was raising upwards, and

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this was physically happening to me.
It was not a dream, It was

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not an outer body experiance. It
was a physical thing. So this continued

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all my life, and it wasn't
until I got older, and as I

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got older, visitations continued, and
of course I know as I got older,

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I wanted to know, demanded to
know more reasons why it was happening

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to me. And I also figured
out in my twenties that this was not

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just happening to me, It was
happening to my two youngest sons, and

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that really disturbed me when I realized
that I just did not understand at all,

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and so I started demanding information and
they told me what they felt I

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could handle. At the time,
they did not tell me everything, but

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basically what they told me was that
I had made a decision before being born

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as a human being to be here
at this particular time for humanity to help

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assist human beings into understanding we are
not alone in the universe in understanding that

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we are finally reaching higher conc sciousness
and they can finally have a face to

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face contact with us over all,
and we will understand that they are not

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God's and they are not angels.
And basically all my life they were just

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getting me prepared and letting me adjust
in age and live my human experience and

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get used to all this to do
what I'm doing now, and that is

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to help humanity. How long have
you been doing this for them? Well,

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I'm sixty three and it's up till
right now. Yeah, So I

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do know that they did explain to
me that when they were coming to get

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me when I was little, when
I would be under the sheets, basically

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I knew that they were coming and
I could feel it. I have the

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ability to fill their frequency, and
I know just before they come, so

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if I'm a little fearful, I'll
keep my eyes closed, or they actually

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may have told me to do that
just to make things quicker and easier for

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me. But they explained to me
that we live in a three D world.

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So what they were doing was that
scanner thing going up and down and

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that vibrational frequency. It was that
they were changing my frequency to match their

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frequency. Therefore I could travel up
through the roof or through a window or

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a door, which humans aren't able
to do in our three D worlds.

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So they were changing my frequency to
match theirs, and then I would travel

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with them. Yeah, and once
the Grays got me all craft, I

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didn't even see I don't even see
them anymore. When I'm on Craft,

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I see the inner dimensional beings,
which are about seven to eight foot tall.

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They have human like features, but
they're more whitish looking, and they're,

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you know, very tall, and
they're definitely not human, but they

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have human like characteristics. And then
I see a lot of tall grays,

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some aquatic beings. Every once in
a while, i'll see reptilians. I

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see Nordics or Palladians. I'm not
quite sure. They're both look a lot

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alike to me, to be honest
with you, so it's kind of hard

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for me to tell. But so
basically, once i'm there, then they'll

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take me through a I go before
a group of peers who I'm sure are

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evaluating me to see what my evolutionary
stage is, what my spiritual group is

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how I'm handling the balance between my
human experience and also having this extraterrestrial experience,

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and then when that is over with, then it is the three grades

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that will bring me back home.
So it's an interesting process and I've not

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always liked it, to be honest
with you. There was many, many

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long periods of time that I did
not understand, and it wasn't until about

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two years ago. I think they
sensed my frustration and they gave me a

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condolini awakening. And when that happened, I was a sleep in the bed

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and my body jerked forward and I
raised my head up and sitting up right

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in the bed, and then I
had like these surges come in and started

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through my head and went all the
way down to the trunk of my body

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and then went back up, and
then I would go back down. And

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this happened like three times. And
when it was happening, I had no

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clue what it was going on.
It scared me. I was very confused

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about it. But later they explained
to me that they were opening my subconscious

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up until to my human consciousness so
that I can remember my past life memories

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and so that I can remember who
I am, and what the reason why

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I came here into work towards my
mission. You mentioned your sons are experienced.

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They were, They still have the
same experiences that you've had. Oh

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yeah, they do. One has
exactly what I have. The youngest one

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is just at his beginning stages.
This is not something that you get used

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to overnight. This is not something
that you understand overnight. It's not like

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anything we experience here on Earth,
and it goes against everything that we have

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been programmed to think. Our physics
does not apply. There's so many things

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that don't apply, and it's a
big, big thing to understand and swallow

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and realize that what sometimes seems to
be there was like when they came to

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get my two sons, rather than
me understanding at that time at my age,

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that they could have done that without
me even knowing, but they allowed

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me to see it. I understand
now that I'm older, everything was done

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for a reason and for a purpose. So that's why I think a lot

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of people that have had interactions misunderstand
what is going on because it's not something

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that we normally you would understand.
It's very confusing and it's easy to let

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the fear get the best of you, and I even sometimes now still have

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to deal with the fear. I
feel it sometimes and I have to remind

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myself you've done this before. Just
go with it. You know, there's

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nothing to be secured up. It's
just different, you know, if you

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think about it in the sense of
what we do here on Earth with other

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species, like if we tag things, we get them, we bring them

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in, we study them, and
then we release them. We do the

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same exact thing. We're not thinking
about how the animal feels about it,

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how the animal copes with it.
They're basically doing the same thing to us.

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So we did everything else. So
basically they're giving us exams. They're

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checking our evolutionary stage because this is
what they've been waiting on, is for

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humanity. And everywhere you look now
you'll see where everybody's talking about frequency,

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higher vibrations, frequency, they're talking
about consciousness, and that is because humanity

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is waking up. We are not
completely there yet, but we are moving

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from three D dimension into the fourth
or on two fifth at least into the

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fourth and happening now. So when
that started happening, that is what brought

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down the inner dimensional and the positive
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planet in big motherships. And there
had been a rogue race of Grays that

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had done some trading technology for they
were doing genetic experiments and things of this

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nature with the government. These were
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best interests in mind. They were
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did not care what human beings thought. They didn't care if we didn't understand

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what the purpose of things were.
So these are different beings that are here

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now. And when we started reaching
higher consciousness, they told this lower race

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of extraterrestrials to leave humanity alone.
So all that I want to say happened

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around in twenty twenty when they kind
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on planet Earth. For one,
our planet is going through an extension herself.

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And from what they've taught me,
our planet is a living conscious being.

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Everything our plants, our trees,
our water, our ear, everything

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that is living conscious beings. Even
the planets in the universe are living conscious

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beings, and everything is connected.
We are all one and we're all connected.

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So whatever we do not only if
playing with technology, nuclear weapons and

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this kind of stuff not only could
wipe us out, but it disrupts the

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balance of nature, disrupts the balance
of Mother Earth. It also ripples out

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into space throughout the universe and affects
everything. So you've kind of heard the

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saying as above, so below,
or however that goes, and this is

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what is true. We are all
connected. We just have lost our connections

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that I think a long long time
ago many of us knew our connections with

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plants, knew our connections with the
earth. And we've lost that because we've

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been programmed to be materialistic and a
slave to working and working, you know,

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and working nine to five, and
we have forgotten a lot of ways

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that values that we knew. But
we are going to reawaken and realize that

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these old ways of living no longer
service and with our higher consciousness, we're

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going to expect better things and ask
that things change. And it's not something

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that will happen overnight, but it's
starting to happen. I can see it

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happening already. People are waking up. Now, when someone you feel like

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is waking up, how do they
know that they are? How can someone

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know that they're able to do this
or awakened. Well. First of all,

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people ask me, how do you
know if you've reached the fourth or

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fifth dimension. Dimensions are not physical
places, they are higher consciousness. So

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when you start realizing and start questioning
or looking for answers to things, your

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mind is already opening up and wanting
more information, and you're starting to seek

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out good information. And you'll start
to realize that you do not like listening

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to the news because it's all negative, okay, you do not like being

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around negative people. You will find
that you'll walk away from these things.

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They will no longer serve you or
interest you. You will find that you

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are disinterested in wars. You will
find that you're disinterested in You'll want to

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spend more time with family values,
things that pertain to your family. You

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will start sensing, you'll start to
want to know who the you who the

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interview is your inner self view,
not the person, not the for me,

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not the Nancy that the world around
me has programmed me to be,

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but the Nancy, the soule Nancy
that made a choice to come to Earth.

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Who am I? Who? Who? Who is Nancy? What?

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What is the purpose of Nancy?
Being here, and as we all reach

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higher consciousness, we will start to
realize our inner selves, look within and

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start understanding that, for one,
we will understand that we don't need the

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government to give us disclosure. We
will understand we are the disclosure because we

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will reach higher consciousness and not need
someone to tell us, because we'll be

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intelligent enough to realize, and all
the answers will be before us. And

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you will know because you'll start noticing
that you will vibrate on a higher frequency.

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When you vibrate at a higher frequency, it feels good and it radiates

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around you and it you'll notice that
your family will pick up and start to

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do the same thing. And it's
kind of just like a cold. It's

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like a virus. It spreads,
So being positive and having a high frequency

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is very contagious and it feels wonderful
and it multiplies and spreads. And that's

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what's gonna happen to humanity, not
overnight, but with time. It's just

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gradual awareness, gradual knowledge, and
then you know, answers start to be

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answered, and then you realize that
we've beenn't manipulated for all our lives.

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The minute we were born, we
were giving us as a security number,

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and you're like ding, ding ding, this isn't right, you know,

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And all the things start popping up, and these things we already know,

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but we've had to wait to get
to a higher consciousness. And here's what's

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so funny about this is that all
of these plants and things, all the

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creatures and even our planet, they
have already known all these things, and

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they all of it has just been
waiting for us to wake up. Because

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we are now finding out through scientists
and the visions that I was shown,

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my son and I both were shown, or that trees are living, conscious

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beings, they communicate. Just because
we live in a three D world does

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not mean that things around us are
not alive, are living and conscious and

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communicated. It just means that in
our three D world we're unable to hear

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or see it. But as we
reach higher levels of consciousness, our awareness

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opens and we will start to pick
up on these things. So it's a

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lot of stuff, but it's a
beautiful thing, it really is. But

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I truly believe that all of us
made a decision to be here on Earth

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at this time. And I truly
believe that all of us, especially the

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ones of us that are doing in
podcasts like this. We are on a

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mission to wake the world up and
to put truthful, positive information out there

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because we have been lied to for
so long. We need to know the

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truths. We need to know our
true heritage, We need to know the

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true history of our planet. We
need to know all kinds of things that

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we have been lied to about.
And I think a lot of those answers

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are going to be answered. Who
are the ones that are doing the line

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though, Like I know, the
theory is that's the lower frequency beings,

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the ones that feed off of the
low energy, like the low negativity.

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Were they like, what exactly is
going on? Why are they keeping us

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in the slave state? Basically,
well, there are fractions of humans.

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There are fractions a lower rambabecks or
trestrials, and they're not These extraterrestrials are

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not demonic, and they are not
warlot. But they really do not want

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humanity to achieve higher consciousness. So
they have worked with the black Cats,

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the elites, and the Ilibanatti Cabal, all these different fractions, and most

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of it is done because it is
a group of really rich people that have

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had a monopoly on all these say, our corporations and our banking system,

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our religious system, our pharmaceutical companies
are all companies, so they have been

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sitting on technology for eons. We
should have no property, we should have

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no diseases, we should not be
using fossil fuels, we should have free

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energy. But these people cannot make
money off of healthy, intelligent people,

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so they have purposely kept us dumbed
down at a lower consciousness to maintain and

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control us and manipulate us around like
puppets. And basically we have been a

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slave to a system that we didn't
even realize that we were enslave too.

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But as we wake up, we
will realize our air, our water,

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our food, everything has toxins in
it. Are things that we see on

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television are negative. All these things
are done intentionally to keep being separated,

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to keep us apart. Racism was
thrown in there to keep humanity be separated

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different religions, to keep us separated. So all these things, and this

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has been going on for a very
very long time, because once we reach

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higher consciousness and we realize that we
are all one and we are all connected,

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and once we're all connected, there
is no stop in humanity. And

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another beautiful thing about this is that
the lower rim of extraterrestrials, when they

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chose to run off and be a
rogue group and not part of the collective

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consciousness of the positive and the interdimensionals, they were no longer part of the

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collective, so they're on their own. So they will not receive the help

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or technology from the interdimensionals, so
they will never travel interdimensionally. They're kind

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of locked into into this realm.
But we, on the other hand,

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human beings, we have the potential
to become inter dimensional and travel throughout the

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universes and become a cosmic citizen,
and we will be very welcomed. And

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we also have a lot of things
in our DNA that have been purposely dumbed

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down. For example, our pineal
gland is crystallized, and they have done

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that to us for a very long
time. And if you remember, back

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in the old days, people that
had this slight bit of all they could,

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they were either psychic or they or
intuitive. They were considered as demonic

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and they would hang them or put
them on trial because they want to keep

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they've always wanted to keep humans dumbed
down. But we are finally to the

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point where we're realizing that these things
have manipulated us and we're not going to

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allow that anymore. And these things
that our body will start to activate and

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we will learn we can live longer
lives, we can live healthier lives.

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And what I was told by the
interdimensional is that when we were created,

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everything we ever needed to sustain our
lives was placed here on Earth. And

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what that means is that there's a
cure for any disease a human ever gets.

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We were never meant to have these
synthetic drugs our bodies. They were

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We're not. Those are not for
us. What we need is here on

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our planet. And they're either sitting
on the technology. Well I know that

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they're sitting on the technology. I
could say that maybe they didn't find it,

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but that would I'm pretty darn sure
they're sitting on the technology. They

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have cures for cancer, they have
cure for everything most likely, and they

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but you have to understand the people
that are in charge. They don't want

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human beings to live longer lives.
That means more money for governments. That

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means is they would and yes,
they would like to see keep us unhealthy

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and dying out because the longer we
live that they're gonna have to change their

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whole system. But the way we
you know, they've got it kind of

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like run it and a little like
a little cycle now. But we will

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start living longer lives and healthier lives. So it's going to be interesting and

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I'm very we should all be proud
to be alive because this is the biggest

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thing that's ever happened to human beings, that has ever happened, and we're

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part of it. I'm getting a
little confused with the interdimensionals and the extraterrestrials.

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Well, extraterrestrials obviously they're not from
here, but interdimensional when you talk

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with other people, interdimensional just means
they're from a different reality, like a

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different dimension into our worlds, is
like a different like they're on level four

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or on level three the three D
world. So how does that work for

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them to be able to travel through
space? Of course, now, dimensions

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are not physical places. Yeah,
you mentioned that there are frequencies, Okay,

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higher frequencies. So in the world
of extraterrestrials and interdimensionals, there is

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no such thing as time. Everything
is happening all in one, all at

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once. So and if you look
at it like you could say, for

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example, there could be extraterrestrials park
right here, the whole craft and everything

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could park right here in my living
room if they want and be to see

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it, I would, but with
my us being in three D, I

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would not see it unless they wanted
me to. So they're not from physical

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places. So they're just different dimensions, different frequencies, and as we reach

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higher frequencies are we will be less
limited as to what we can see.

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But they that doesn't mean that they're
not from originally a planet. It just

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may not be a planet in our
Solar system. Yeah, because that's it

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gets confusing when people talk about space
and traveling through space and they talk about

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interdimensional it's like, well, if
they're extraterrestrials and they're not from obvious solis

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to from a different galaxy, those
are trillions of miles away. There's all

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these different galaxies and they're traveling because
yes, well there's many, many many

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galaxies, many many universes, and
they travel all over looking for beings that

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are reaching ascension, and then that's
when they step in and help them to

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ascend. They are a billion years
ahead of us in evolution, and they

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don't want to take over. They
don't want to do anything. All they

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want to do is assist and help
us to reach that higher level. That's

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where it comes back to them.
What the ones trying to keep us back

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from reaching? That is? How
do they know about it? You know

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what I mean? Like, why
are they trying to keep us down?

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Who? They know what our frequent
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and as long as we were at
a lower frequency, we were taking

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advantage of and they were not supposed
to do that. The cosmic law says

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that human beings are here on free
will, and they overstep this race or

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any race that did the so called
abductions, they overstep that boundary of humans

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being here on free will. And
a lot of people ask me, why

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don't they If they can do this, they could do that, why don't

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they come down here and cure diseases
and things? Well, we are human

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beings are here on free will,
and people do not totally understand this.

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But all of us have soul contracts
that we made before we got here,

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so they cannot overstep a boundary.
If you're so contract that you made with

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creator, which, by the way, they do believe in a creator source.

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And they all have souls. So
if whatever we agreed upon, say

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we decide how long we're going to
be here, we decide certain things about

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our life, they cannot interfere with
those things and go ahead. I say,

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you mentioned they have souls and everything. Yes, it really depends on

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who you talk to, because a
lot of people think these aliens are demonics,

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and I don't know. Well,
they've never met one. I have.

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I've been with them face to face, held hands, rubbed their face,

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they rub mine, and I've touched
them. They feel like a dolphin,

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and they are biological, and they
are very loving, very benevolent,

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very loving. And for me,
it's not what they look like. For

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me, it is the frequency exchange. They are higher frequency than I am.

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So when I feel their presence my
body, I can feel it all

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over and it's overwhelming, warning loving
kind of I don't even know how to

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explain it. Really, it's almost
ephloric feeling, but it's I don't know

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00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:16.119
how to explain it, but it's
a different frequency than what we ever have

408
00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:22.639
felt before. You don't feel like
this, So for me, it's kind

409
00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:30.360
of like you have that flight or
fight type feeling because your brain doesn't know

410
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:35.039
what to do with this because it's
never felt that before. So it's like

411
00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:42.719
it's been embedded in our DNA from
prehistoric times when everything around us was a

412
00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:49.880
predator. So when something new comes
around and we don't understand it's you know

413
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:53.320
that you get extremely scared and you
either want to fight or you want to

414
00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:59.559
run. Basically, yeah, you're
the first person I've interviewed that's actually had

415
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:02.039
like posit that have experiences with aliens. Basically, everyone I've talked to has

416
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:07.519
had like traumatic events because of the
abductions and everything. Well, I believe

417
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:14.480
that those things happened. I also
believed that some of those were instigated even

418
00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:22.639
by military along with some extraterrestrials.
And when I was living in Australia,

419
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:30.239
I was living up in the mountains, pretty isolated area, and I felt

420
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:35.559
some beings coming, but these were
not the three that normally come for me,

421
00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:39.639
and they got me and took me
to craft and when I woke up,

422
00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:45.960
I was on a like a gurney
and there were female humans running around,

423
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:53.719
and there were grays running around,
and they were very confused, acting

424
00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:59.079
very confused. And what it was
is they were like saying, send her

425
00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:05.320
back, take or back because they
realized that I belonged to the inner dimensionals

426
00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:08.920
and they better not touch me.
So they sent me back and then I

427
00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:15.880
woke up and I was just like
really confused as to I mean, I

428
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:21.320
remembered it, but it was like
what in the world. So I was

429
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:25.000
close to Pine Gap, but not
walking distance but by air, and I

430
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:29.960
being on a mountain. I lived
up on Mount me which was in Queensland,

431
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:34.719
which is about two and a half
hours from Brisbane, and they could

432
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:43.039
have easily got to me by craft
or even helicopter or whatever. I don't

433
00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:46.599
really know. I don't remember seeing
any craft. I just remember it happening

434
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:53.639
in them waking up on an a
craft. You mentioned earlier that you think

435
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:59.119
some of them were working with the
military. Absolutely, which ones would be?

436
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:06.480
I know that. Okay, I
want to clear this up. There

437
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:13.119
are many, many different races of
grays. There's over sixty different races or

438
00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:17.800
more. Okay, they are different
colors, they are different hots, and

439
00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:24.119
some have a little different looks in
their facial features. So one race out

440
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:31.519
of all these, say sixty three
races were the ones that decided to go

441
00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:37.559
off on their own and do their
own genetic testing and became a renegade race

442
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:43.800
and left the collective consciousness of the
rest of all the grace. Then there

443
00:40:43.800 --> 00:40:49.679
was like other races, like there
were some Nordics, there were some Reptilians,

444
00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:54.519
and with them, there's many many
different races. There's not just one

445
00:40:54.639 --> 00:41:00.000
race of each group. There's many
many different ones. And there are some

446
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:05.679
of them are on the side that
doesn't they're not demonic, but they don't

447
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:13.679
really want to see humans prosper for
whatever reason. So but there's they are

448
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:19.480
very few in number, but they
are the ones that did some work with

449
00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:25.440
the government. I've heard different stories
like well Dulce bases and all these different

450
00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:30.039
things, and those would be the
ones that did those kind of things,

451
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:37.440
and they traded out technology forgetting to
do what they did, but humanity never

452
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:43.719
got to see any of the technology
except for whatever they used. As far

453
00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:47.079
as like in wars, we can't
be the only species that they would do

454
00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:52.639
this too, because if you look
at it in that consciousness of they're just

455
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:57.719
doing to try to keep humanity down. What's special about humanity that's like a

456
00:41:58.280 --> 00:42:01.280
that's our own ego, thinking that
we're special. There's nothing special about us.

457
00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:07.000
I'll tell you what's special about our
planet is our planet itself, our

458
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:13.719
planet and everything on our planet.
They love our planet because it is a

459
00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:19.079
living, conscious being, and they
love the air, the animals, the

460
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:24.239
jungles, the indigenous people, the
mammals, the aquatic life. They love

461
00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:30.840
everything, and they played a part
in the creation of it. So when

462
00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:38.639
that's the thing, when we start
messing with these things that are innocent bystanders

463
00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:45.880
and could stand to be eliminated because
of our human egos and because of a

464
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:53.639
few humans that want to play dictator, They're not going to let us destroy

465
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:59.360
our world and our planet because our
planet is beautiful and our planet is part

466
00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:05.920
of the universe and we're all connected. Everything our moon is connected to our

467
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:09.400
planet. They destroy our planet,
there's no telling them what all is goar

468
00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:15.320
ripple out from it. If we
were completely destroyed it, I can't even

469
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:20.519
imagine what all it would affect.
It would affect the whole universe, and

470
00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:23.880
they're not going to let that happen. I think we do a pretty good

471
00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:31.559
job here. I think they much
let Yeah, but they've let the governments

472
00:43:31.639 --> 00:43:37.679
and the military know. They've come
down here and turned off nuclear power plants,

473
00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:45.599
and they have stopped nuclear weapons.
They stopped the one that I don't

474
00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:50.440
know if you remember, but in
Korea they shot North Korea shot off one

475
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:53.559
years ago and they said it was
boops, we made a mistake. But

476
00:43:53.719 --> 00:44:00.480
actually what happened was is the extraterrestrials
destroyed it in mid air. I remember

477
00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:06.159
hearing that. Yeah. And also
if you look, I've seen a lot

478
00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:13.480
of videos over in the war Israel
and Iran and all that I see them

479
00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:16.239
interacting and shooting missiles down over there
too, if you look and find it

480
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:21.519
now, there's a lot of weird
stuff that's going on right now that I

481
00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:24.519
try not to even pay attention to
really because I think it's all distraction.

482
00:44:24.719 --> 00:44:29.920
Well, the thing is, with
the AI technology the way it is,

483
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:35.559
we all have to be careful about
what we believe, you know, because

484
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:44.239
and that's the thing with our technology
has gotten so big. Everything in our

485
00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:51.599
everything. Our baking systems are broken
breaking down, our political you know,

486
00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:57.719
our groups are breaking down, our
religious groups are breaking down. We have

487
00:44:57.880 --> 00:45:06.599
surpassed what our technology can do.
So we've got to change our planet and

488
00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:10.239
our world is changing and we've got
to learn to change with it. And

489
00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:17.519
as we reach higher consciousness, all
we have to do is allow them to

490
00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:22.800
help us and accept the fact we
are not alone, and accept some help,

491
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:28.960
and they'll help us to make the
right decisions with our technology. Because

492
00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:36.840
they explain to me that AI technology
is a man made tool. We have

493
00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:40.159
to keep it as a man made
tool. Do not turn it loose with

494
00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:45.559
certain individuals, and do not turn
it loose to just run on its own.

495
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:50.320
We created it, we need to
stay in power over it, and

496
00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:55.320
if we use it right, we
can use it to better all of humanity,

497
00:45:55.840 --> 00:46:00.920
not just a few. And that's
the problem that we've been so manipulated

498
00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:09.280
and conned. We don't even realize
that these things we we only we we

499
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:14.320
only do what we're told to do. We don't even know what all they're

500
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:20.199
sitting on and what they're privited,
and they're getting cares for and they're able

501
00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:24.280
to live longer and the rest of
us are suffering. I think the AI

502
00:46:24.440 --> 00:46:29.760
is already spread so far that it's
hard to ring it back in at this

503
00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:32.400
point, because if you just look
at what you're capable of doing, like

504
00:46:32.679 --> 00:46:37.320
it makes music now, it puts
singing into the music, it makes photos,

505
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:39.599
it does videos. Like it's so
much manipulation that you don't even know

506
00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:46.039
what you're seeing anymore or what you're
listening to. It's it's I think it's

507
00:46:46.039 --> 00:46:49.920
gotten to the point to where it's
gonna be hard to actually put it back

508
00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:52.000
in the bag at this point as
they try to, Oh, I don't

509
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:54.519
think it's going to go back in
the bag. I think that as we

510
00:46:54.559 --> 00:47:00.239
retire ore consciousness, we're going to
realize we made this, we are and

511
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:02.920
control, and we're going to stay
in control, and we're going to use

512
00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:07.360
it to our advantage. And you
have to understand a lot of the information

513
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:15.840
that we get about extraterrestrials, interdimensionals
AI, these are all misinformation and purposely

514
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:21.239
done to keep us in fear,
keep us separated, because anybody that's in

515
00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:25.639
fear, they lose their connection to
the rest of the world. Everybody is

516
00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:31.079
kind of on their own and on
guard. So that is done intentionally.

517
00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:38.119
And so until we wake up and
realize that we're being manipulated, which we

518
00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:44.119
will, we will, but when
we do a lot of things are going

519
00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:47.639
to change, and you're going to
see our lives will be better, and

520
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:53.440
basically we're the stepping stones for future
generations. You know, I don't know

521
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:58.039
how long this all will take,
but I know that it has to start

522
00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:01.400
somewhere, and it needs to start
now. It doesn't need to be put

523
00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:06.559
off because things are not going to
get better at this point. At this

524
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:10.000
point, if it stays escalating like
it is, we will wipe ourselves out.

525
00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:15.199
So we have to start somewhere.
By starting something like this and trying

526
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:20.679
to project it and go further out. I can see like the average person

527
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:23.599
seeing this as like a religion,
because if you already look at the religions

528
00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:25.400
what we have, they're just going
to say, oh, these are the

529
00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:29.960
UFO people, these are their Ufology
people, these are alien people, this

530
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:35.280
is the religion. They'll believe these
people like that's how society's programmed to be.

531
00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:38.639
Yeah, they're not going to take
it seriously because just like if you

532
00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:42.880
look at religions today, a lot
of people don't take religions as seriously as

533
00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:45.519
they used to. Like obviously older
generations do. With like people my age

534
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:52.039
and younger, they're not into the
religious type aspects anymore. I consider myself

535
00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:57.559
a spiritual person not a religious person. Yeah, and there's a big difference.

536
00:48:57.960 --> 00:49:01.239
But trying to explain that to eighty
year old mother that's very hard to

537
00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:07.000
do. Yeah. No, I
come from a very Christian family, so

538
00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:10.480
again, speaking of stuff like that
is very out there for a lot of

539
00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:15.039
them because they believe in their certain
things they believe. Yeah, when you

540
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:16.719
talk about stuff like this, like
growing up, I was told there's no

541
00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:20.440
such thing as aliens, there's no
such thing as ghost anything like they're the

542
00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:23.079
demons. That's what's programmed into your
brain, because i'sow what religion tells you.

543
00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:28.760
Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot
of programming. But I think younger

544
00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:34.639
generations are going to be more aware
of the world around us and it will

545
00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:39.840
be less programming. You know.
I don't know how if you have children

546
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:45.760
or whatever, but you know your
eyes are or more open, and I'm

547
00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:50.719
sure you'll want your kids to inform
their own opinions about things because our world

548
00:49:50.840 --> 00:49:54.000
is changing. Things aren't like they
used to be twenty thirty years ago.

549
00:49:54.320 --> 00:50:00.599
Our world is changing and it's changing
very fast now, just even one of

550
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:04.320
the last five to ten years.
It's a lot different than what it used

551
00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:09.119
to be. Yeah, but i'd
say you mentioned twenty twenty. I feel

552
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:12.559
like twenty twenty is a turning point
for a lot of things. And I

553
00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:15.559
don't necessarily know if it's the good
or the bad side of it. But

554
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:19.119
twenty twenty was like the Year of
the Beast, is what they call.

555
00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:25.599
Yeah, it was COVID and all
that. Yeah. Well, some as

556
00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:32.880
I've reached higher levels of consciousness and
things, I realized that everything that we've

557
00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:39.679
been through was done to teach us
something. Being here on earth is an

558
00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:45.760
experience we're here to learn, and
for whatever reason we had to learn.

559
00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:54.159
I didn't like being in quarantine at
all, and I don't know if anything

560
00:50:54.199 --> 00:51:00.360
good became of it at all,
But I don't know, But I know

561
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:07.800
that we have to learn to forgive
certain things and move on and learn from

562
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:10.320
our mistakes and to learn from the
past and just learn not to make the

563
00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:15.360
same ones again. And that's been
the problem, is that for our governments

564
00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:21.519
and things. You know, we
continuously continue to have wars and things,

565
00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:25.960
but we have to reach a point
to where we realized there's nothing good about

566
00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:31.280
a war and it doesn't serve us
in any good way at all. It

567
00:51:31.400 --> 00:51:38.039
serves their purpose to keep us all
divided. Yeah, angry and scared and

568
00:51:38.079 --> 00:51:44.000
everything else. Is what I said. I don't want to be that person.

569
00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:47.079
But basically that's what they want,
Like, yeah, they want to

570
00:51:47.159 --> 00:51:51.320
keep everyone against each other. They
want to find reasons for people to not

571
00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:53.440
get along. They want to find
people have negativity. And that's what I've

572
00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:58.800
been saying forever is basically everyone,
well who's they? Who's the elusive They?

573
00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:00.599
Well, the people that are the
puppet masters, the ones that pull

574
00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:06.440
the strings elated. Yeah, I
don't know their official names. Like I

575
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:07.559
can go out there and say who
it is, well, you know,

576
00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:12.880
and it's really and truly we don't
know who's really running our government. It's

577
00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:15.719
not the officials that are in there. They're being plate light puppets, you

578
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:22.840
know. Yeah, there's definitely a
part of government we don't know. You

579
00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:30.920
know. So anyone that you see
on the television, their presidential they're not

580
00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:34.639
the real shot callers. I mean, they're just the face that gets put

581
00:52:34.639 --> 00:52:37.079
out there for the everyone else to
see. They're the puppet. But there's

582
00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:42.880
always someone pulling the strings of the
pop That's true. Yeah, I wish

583
00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:45.119
a lot of people would see it
that way, but no one wants to.

584
00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:46.199
They always want to fight about which
side they want to be on.

585
00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:53.079
If you remember, wasn't it Osenhower
was the first president to talk about a

586
00:52:53.199 --> 00:53:00.719
dark government and the military. There
was like fractions of government and military that

587
00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:06.599
we all need to be careful because
I think he realized he had no control

588
00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:12.280
over I think he started realizing there
was like secret programs and things of that

589
00:53:12.440 --> 00:53:17.480
nature, and he wanted He mentioned
something about it, and then going down

590
00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:23.480
the rabbit hole JFK. He supposedly
was wanting to abolish certain alphabet agencies and

591
00:53:23.519 --> 00:53:29.400
that he mysteriously was shot. So
yeah, that's a shame, so,

592
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:36.440
you know, and I think that's
one reason why they don't really want to

593
00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:42.039
do disclosure. I think they would
love for the James Webb telescope to find

594
00:53:42.119 --> 00:53:46.800
something, because then that would take
it off of their kurtail, the coketail,

595
00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:51.800
so to speak. If the James
Web found something, it would be

596
00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:58.360
millions old, billions of miles away, and you know, people would be

597
00:53:58.440 --> 00:54:02.119
comfortable with that. Know, even
are my mother and daddy, you know,

598
00:54:02.239 --> 00:54:05.960
in their eighties and stuff. They
would, you know, because it's

599
00:54:05.960 --> 00:54:08.559
not like it's right here. If
they you know, to know, that

600
00:54:08.599 --> 00:54:13.719
there's life, but it's so far
away, you know. I still don't

601
00:54:13.719 --> 00:54:15.840
think they would believe it, though. I think a lot of people would

602
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:19.239
say it's not true, because that's
possible. Yeah, there's a lot of

603
00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:23.559
people that don't believe in NASA.
Yeah that's true. Yeah. Yeah,

604
00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:27.800
I'm kind of one of the people
that don't necessarily believe everything NASA says either,

605
00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:30.039
because again, I don't believe a
lot of the stuff that comes out

606
00:54:30.079 --> 00:54:35.960
about what we've done and what they're
doing. They're definitely not truthful about things,

607
00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:39.719
that's for sure, but you know, and they're funded by the government,

608
00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:44.840
So there you go. That's why
I said I don't think the official

609
00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:50.880
stories that you hear are always the
accurate ones. Yeah, Well, is

610
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:52.920
there anything else you'd like to discuss
or you think you've kind of covered a

611
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:57.840
lot of what you want to talk
about? Is there anything you want to

612
00:54:57.880 --> 00:55:01.639
ask me already I've kind of asked
everything I kind of thought would popped in

613
00:55:01.679 --> 00:55:06.239
my head, like, there's nothing
really, it's you're the third or fourth

614
00:55:06.280 --> 00:55:08.480
person almost in a row that we've
talked about this on my interviews, So

615
00:55:08.639 --> 00:55:13.639
okay, I've kind of talked about
this last night I talked about the other

616
00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:15.800
night, like for some reason,
like all these interviews got lined up and

617
00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:21.800
they're almost the same hypertopic. So
it's kind of yeah, repetitions. Yeah,

618
00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:24.519
I don't want to say repetition,
but it's almost like the it's odd

619
00:55:24.559 --> 00:55:28.840
to me that they're all popped up
in the same sequence, I guess.

620
00:55:30.360 --> 00:55:35.719
I will say this also that a
lot of people that I know. Travis

621
00:55:35.800 --> 00:55:39.440
Walton, they made a movie about
him, Fired in the Sky, and

622
00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:47.039
I met him, and when they
made that movie, he signed over rights

623
00:55:47.079 --> 00:55:52.800
to it, and they dramatized that
and made it very fearful because they wanted

624
00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:58.599
to sell box seats. And at
the time, of course, he did

625
00:55:58.639 --> 00:56:01.079
not care and he you know,
had a hard time dealing with it.

626
00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:06.639
That part was true. But as
he's gotten older, he will tell you

627
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:10.679
that they saved the extraterrestrials saved his
life. They could have left him there

628
00:56:10.719 --> 00:56:15.800
in the middle of the woods and
he would have died because he had radiation

629
00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:20.239
poisoning. But they saved his life, took him all craft, saved his

630
00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:24.440
life, and then dropped it back
off. And they dropped him off in

631
00:56:24.480 --> 00:56:29.000
a public area where he could be
found, not back in the woods where

632
00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:35.480
they picked him up. So you
know, you know, he's totally changed

633
00:56:35.719 --> 00:56:40.800
with Ley Streber, you know it. You know, his movie Communion was

634
00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:45.639
pretty scary too, and again that
was to sell seats and stuff. And

635
00:56:47.159 --> 00:56:52.239
from what he says now, And
it's funny as you mature and get older

636
00:56:52.320 --> 00:56:55.519
and you rethink things and you kind
of like piece impact things together. And

637
00:56:55.559 --> 00:57:00.000
that's what I've done, is you
know, kind of under understand it all

638
00:57:00.840 --> 00:57:07.440
and it makes more sense. He
doesn't see it as a horrible thing anymore

639
00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:12.320
either, So I don't know.
So a lot of times I think when

640
00:57:12.360 --> 00:57:16.800
people talk about having a bad experience, yes it was a bad experience to

641
00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:22.280
them, but a lot of it
may have had to do with their state

642
00:57:22.320 --> 00:57:28.199
of mind and you know, their
perception of what was happening at the time.

643
00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:32.480
You know, I've actually wanted to
reach out to both of those you

644
00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:36.400
mentioned. I've been trying to figure
out a way to reach out to Travis

645
00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:38.320
and I know Whitley has his own
website. I was going to send the

646
00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:42.280
message to ive never gotten around to
doing it. Well, you should do

647
00:57:42.360 --> 00:57:45.440
that. Yeah. No, Fire
in the Sky came out when I was

648
00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:52.119
a kid, and it kind of
It didn't scare me, but it definitely

649
00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:57.159
put that fear into you because of
the alien abductions or whatever like it.

650
00:57:55.880 --> 00:58:01.199
It almost like you said it so
dramaticized that, Oh yeah, it made

651
00:58:01.239 --> 00:58:05.760
it like a scary movie, especially
when you're like they came out in like

652
00:58:05.840 --> 00:58:08.800
ninety one. I was, yeah, that the old begin on craft and

653
00:58:08.880 --> 00:58:14.719
waking up in that mesh like thing, and then and then they're showing that

654
00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:17.519
thing coming down to your eye.
I mean, all that stuff. Nothing

655
00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:23.199
like that happens. And there is
no such thing as probing. I didn't

656
00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:27.800
figure there was in the sense of
what people say. Anyone that says they've

657
00:58:27.800 --> 00:58:30.880
ever been an alien came in and
they probed them or whatever. I've even

658
00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:34.840
made this reference as far as like
I think if people really believe that,

659
00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:37.960
I think they're they're brand's covering up
something else traumatic that happened. Oh yeah,

660
00:58:38.239 --> 00:58:40.800
it's a long way to travel,
you know, it's a very long

661
00:58:40.840 --> 00:58:45.119
waist to travel just to look up
somebody's But you know, I never under

662
00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:47.840
they're so far advanced, but they
have to come here and do a rectal

663
00:58:47.880 --> 00:58:51.840
exam. Doesn't make any sense to
me now, But I do know this,

664
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:58.840
and I've experienced this. They actually
what they can't overstep the boundary of

665
00:58:58.920 --> 00:59:02.440
humans being here on we will.
But I know for a fact that if

666
00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:07.280
they can, they will help people, and they f cure things, and

667
00:59:07.599 --> 00:59:13.360
they've worked on my kidneys several things
that they've done on me throughout my life

668
00:59:13.679 --> 00:59:17.239
and stuff. You know, what
about not thinner rebel like what about the

669
00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:23.400
ones that say they've had their stolen
babies from like hybrid babies, like they've

670
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:27.880
been impregnated and they've taken the babies
from them or whatever. That's been a

671
00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:32.880
big topic here lately I've been here. Yeah, I know that they truly

672
00:59:34.079 --> 00:59:43.079
believe that that's what happened to them. And I do know that it could

673
00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:47.280
be that those all of that race. Usually when there's each race has a

674
00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:52.280
pacific function that they do. So
in that case, I would say that

675
00:59:52.480 --> 01:00:00.639
every one of those grace were genetic
scientists, so their agenda was genetic research.

676
01:00:00.719 --> 01:00:05.519
So for what reason, I don't
know, you know, but I

677
01:00:05.599 --> 01:00:09.519
do know that they're not trying to
repopulate their population. It's not because of

678
01:00:09.559 --> 01:00:14.719
that because there's so many different races. You know, people don't realize that

679
01:00:14.960 --> 01:00:21.320
there's not just one so there's so
much misinformation. But you know, I

680
01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:24.599
do know this, if they did
create a hybrid, a hybrid would never

681
01:00:24.639 --> 01:00:30.800
make it down here on Earth.
Never. But and I could see where

682
01:00:31.119 --> 01:00:37.599
they would want it to have interactions
with that mother periodically so that it can

683
01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:42.960
get that bonding feeling because you know, it would be hard for that would

684
01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:49.360
be awful hard for a hybrid to
have human have extraterrestrial because they don't have

685
01:00:49.440 --> 01:00:53.400
the emotions and stuff that we have. So for you know, for me,

686
01:00:53.760 --> 01:01:00.239
whenever I would get upset or very
very anxiety or whatever, they would

687
01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:07.480
simply take their hand and touch my
forehead and put me in a sedated type

688
01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:12.760
state. Without the sedation, they
would just like put me in a relaxed,

689
01:01:12.800 --> 01:01:17.119
calm functional like a walk and move
and remember. But my memories when

690
01:01:17.159 --> 01:01:21.719
I would come back would be fragmented. It wouldn't be a full conscious memory.

691
01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:25.039
It was kind of like walking around
like a zombie or something. Now,

692
01:01:25.320 --> 01:01:29.320
Yeah, and they do that to
a lot of people. And you've

693
01:01:29.320 --> 01:01:32.000
heard people talk about sleek paralysis.
I've had them do that to meet before

694
01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:37.559
too, so and they have the
reasons for that because they're not going to

695
01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:42.880
sit there and fight with us,
and humans will fight back. Now,

696
01:01:42.960 --> 01:01:46.079
you know, if Iver woke up
and in the middle of something, I'm

697
01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:51.320
swinging all the munch of well,
they probably won't let you move because they're

698
01:01:51.400 --> 01:01:57.199
telepathic. They already know what you're
think. Yeah. I had a dream

699
01:01:57.239 --> 01:02:00.880
a while back, and I've made
a reference to the It wasn't a dream,

700
01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:06.079
but they were taking my son.
There were a little strange looking pink

701
01:02:06.159 --> 01:02:09.559
humanoid figures and he was screaming and
I was after him, and I was

702
01:02:09.559 --> 01:02:13.239
punching and I was kicking, and
one of them had a light on the

703
01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:15.119
end of their I don't know what
it was, but they went up in

704
01:02:15.159 --> 01:02:17.119
my nostril. And the next morn
I woke up and I had blood on

705
01:02:17.159 --> 01:02:21.519
my nostril. Yeah. I was
like, was it a dream because of

706
01:02:21.559 --> 01:02:27.199
the odd coincidents that I had crusty
blood on my same nostril. Yeah.

707
01:02:27.480 --> 01:02:32.000
But anything that's trying to take anything
that's trying to take my son, I

708
01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:36.679
don't care if it's for good or
Yeah, I'm coming after my kid.

709
01:02:36.960 --> 01:02:39.639
Yeah, yeah, you don't,
I tell you. I think people should

710
01:02:39.679 --> 01:02:43.920
listen to what their children have to
say, because a lot of people just

711
01:02:44.079 --> 01:02:47.519
miss things like this. And you
should at least listen, you know,

712
01:02:49.480 --> 01:02:53.320
listen to what they say, you
know, would be very important. Yeah.

713
01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:59.920
I definitely try and listen to what
my kids are telling me. That's

714
01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:05.840
it just because not from what I
do and what I talk to with other

715
01:03:05.840 --> 01:03:07.840
people is maybe a lot more open
minded because I've always been a skeptic up

716
01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:13.440
until years ago. And the more
and more I do this show, the

717
01:03:13.480 --> 01:03:20.360
more and more I want to believe. So it's like, I'm definitely trying

718
01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:23.400
to be more receptive to a lot
of things. So some of the things

719
01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:28.679
that they talk about that's a kid's
imagination, it might not always be.

720
01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:34.039
There might be more to it.
So, yeah, there's a lot of

721
01:03:34.039 --> 01:03:37.639
crazy stuff out there, so you
have to use discernment for sure. Yeah,

722
01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:42.760
it's good to have an open mind
and listen and you know, be

723
01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:46.960
aware that sometimes things happen to people
that it's just hard to understand, you

724
01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:51.840
know, it really is. Yeah, yeah, I agree. Like I

725
01:03:51.880 --> 01:03:54.440
said, this whole show is just
to give a platform for people with experiences

726
01:03:54.440 --> 01:03:58.000
to come on here and share their
experiences. I'm not here to prove or

727
01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:01.719
disprove anyone because I'm not I'm not
there. I don't know what's going on.

728
01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:04.599
I mean, I can't say something
yes, yeah, wrong because I

729
01:04:04.639 --> 01:04:11.519
didn't witness it. Yeah, but
I think we can probably wrap this one

730
01:04:11.599 --> 01:04:15.119
up. So I appreciate you coming
on here talking. Thank you for having

731
01:04:15.159 --> 01:04:17.360
me. I really appreciate it.
Not a problem. If anyone wants to

732
01:04:17.360 --> 01:04:19.960
get ahold of you, do you
have a place for them to reach out

733
01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:24.800
to you? Yes, I do. I have a website, Time for

734
01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:30.599
Disclosure dot com. And also my
Facebook group is Time for Disclosure slash.

735
01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:36.679
We have never been along slash.
We are the disclosure So yeah, and

736
01:04:36.760 --> 01:04:42.199
I've belonged to a lot of Facebook
groups and they're all great. They're all

737
01:04:42.320 --> 01:04:45.480
you know, kind of work together, and we're all trying to work towards

738
01:04:45.480 --> 01:04:50.960
disclosure and getting the truth out there
for anyone interested. I'll have that in

739
01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:54.519
the show notes for you. So
I got to just click on let's should

740
01:04:54.519 --> 01:04:58.159
take you right there. Okay,
sounds great. I appreciate that. Yeah,

741
01:04:58.239 --> 01:05:00.199
not a problem. Well, Nancy
come on here and talking to me

742
01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:04.679
tonight. It's been a pleasure.
Thank you. You have a good night,

743
01:05:11.199 --> 01:05:14.679
and that's the show everyone. I
really hope you guys enjoyed the conversations.

744
01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:17.039
If you would like to be a
guest on tenfoil Tels, remember to

745
01:05:17.079 --> 01:05:20.760
send an email to Tenfoil Tales Podcast
at gmail dot com or go to the

746
01:05:20.760 --> 01:05:25.639
contact section of tenfoiltal dot com.
Just get your message to me. We'll

747
01:05:25.639 --> 01:05:29.360
get some schedule for a future episode. And just remember the truth lies,

748
01:05:29.400 --> 01:05:32.159
and the stories we share, the
connections we make, stay curiously open minded.

749
01:05:32.519 --> 01:05:35.239
Thank you all for joining us on
this journey, and until next time,

750
01:05:35.440 --> 01:05:39.800
keep questioning, keep seeking, and
keep exploring the unknown. Good night,

751
01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:43.800
everyone sends sounds in the headstones.
Yeah, it's turn to rock.

752
01:05:44.960 --> 01:05:49.599
Got a story about a crypty creature. Let's take a walk thigs foot summer.

753
01:05:50.519 --> 01:05:56.079
They're out there in the talk,
but the truth is out there likingly

754
01:05:56.360 --> 01:06:03.719
as fuck you both sadies. Got
the whole world show conspiracies and folds like

755
01:06:03.800 --> 01:06:13.119
a story in the book Control trying
to keep us fine. We're all gonna

756
01:06:13.199 --> 01:06:20.320
use the whole mind in history.
They don't want us to know the secrets

757
01:06:20.320 --> 01:06:28.960
they hide since they won't show,
so they don't society. They keep us

758
01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:56.480
in chase, but send and Tomas
time to break the reins. Control trying

759
01:06:56.480 --> 01:07:03.880
to keep us fine, but I'm
all before gonna use all that in history.

760
01:07:04.159 --> 01:07:10.800
It want us to know the secrets
they hide, since they will show

761
01:07:12.280 --> 01:07:19.039
now they in a society, they
keep us in chase. I standing,

762
01:07:19.159 --> 01:07:25.079
talk, do sound to break the
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