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Auslin. Let a transition there,
Fred, you had to access some gray

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matter to get to that. I
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Well done? What's up? Fred? What's up? Rodney? All good?

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Double a, all good? Man. You had a good weekend.

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Everything's good here. It's gonna be
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here with you on Friday and in
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it. I'll come in every day
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No, that's great. It won't
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Appreciate it. You turn that down
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The finals are set. It's Miami
and Denver. Denver are prohibitive favorite

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going in. But my god,
Boston, what a collapse. I mean

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they fought their way back, give
them that, but at the end,

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just just really a disappointing year for
the Celtics. Jason Tatum gets hurt on

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what the first play of the game, and he was playing through it.

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Jalen Brown had a miserable ball game
of John starks S like game seven out

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there. I think he had eight
turnovers. It was they struggled but they

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at least made it a competitive series, and I don't think it's going to

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be enough to keep Joe Missoula.
We'll see what happens with that. But

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obviously, after coming off the finals
loss of the Golden State Warriors last year

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in six games, it was disappointing, but the Miami Heat were on a

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mission. They lost last year in
seven to the Boston Celtics in the Eastern

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Conference Finals. Jimmy Butler said after
that in the postgame presser, We're gonna

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come back. We're gonna be right
back in this position, and the next

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time we're gonna win. And damn
it. The third guarantee was finally the

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charm for him. After guaranteeing a
win in pretty much every game after Boston

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won the first one to climb back
into the series, they finally closed him

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out in seven. And I was
impressed with some of the other guys.

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I mean, Caleb Martin had a
hell of a series twenty points per game,

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shooting almost fifty percent from the outside, same with Gabe Vincent. Some

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of the others really stepped up to
the point that some thought maybe Caleb Martin

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should have got the MVP of the
Eastern Conference Finals. But Jimmy Butler still

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the draw that stirs the drink there. I don't know though, if they're

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ready for a test like they're gonna
get in the NBA Finals now against Denver.

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Nah. Yeah, it's gonna be
more in the test. It could

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get very well ugly because of the
matchup situation. But you never know.

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People counted Miami out, you know, year after year after year, and

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to that point, Adam, we're
not giving Miami credit. I know people

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talk about spots. He's probably the
best, if not the best coach in

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the league and making adjustments and getting
the most out of his team. But

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these guys, like you mentioned,
they were there last year, they were

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there in the bubble in the finals. They're there this year, but nobody

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talks about him. Is it because
the regular season is such a whatever and

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we just get us to the playoffs. Look, they're just the second eighth

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seed ever to make it to the
NBA Finals, following the Knicks in ninety

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nine, who lost in five to
the San Antonio Spurs on that magical run.

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Coincidentally, they took out Miami in
the first round with a game winner

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in Game five, which was the
maximum amount you could play. Then Alan

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Houston running job bar got it to
go. So Miami they were the act.

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We knew they were better than that, but I think a lot of

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people figured they would lose to Milwaukee
in the first round. Jannis doesn't play

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two of those games, although Milwaukee
still won one of them. He was

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beat up and they had some really
hot shooting in the first round and then

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the Eastern Conference Finals. Now,
I think that's gonna come back to bid

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them. I think shooting variants.
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Because before Boston won a game when
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off the Eastern Conference Finals, Miami
was shooting forty five percent from three in

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the playoffs. Now that started to
regress to the mean. Eventually they ended

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up at thirty nine percent so far
in the playoffs. But this was not

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a good three point shooting team during
the regular season. But all of a

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sudden, gave Vincent and Caleb Martin, We're shooting fifty percent from the outside.

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I don't know how sustainable that is. It sounds like Tyler Hero could

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return for Game three in Miami in
the NBA Finals. They could use him,

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but He's not a great defender on
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that hot shooting and they're gonna need
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team that has the best offense in
the league. I think it's gonna have

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to remain for them to have a
chance, and I just don't see it

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happen. I would take the Denver
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they have nobody outside of Bam to
throw at Nikola Yokis, and he has

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dominated Bam out of Bayou in the
twelve appearances they've had against one another in

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the NBA. They're ten in two
the Denver Nuggets and Nikola Yokis against Bam

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and he's dominated him with the numbers
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shooting against him, and Bam on
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and seven. So that's the matchup
to me. Because Miami elects to junk

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up the game defensively, they like
to throw zones out of nowhere. Eric

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Spoelstra is a fantastic coach, maybe
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They find ways to grit out wins
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have there, but when they go
zone against the Denver Nuggets, Nicola Yoki

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is just gonna pick him apart.
He's gonna find guys on backdoor cuts,

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He's gonna find guys for open three
pointers. Ksep, Bruce Brown. Both

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those guys playing very well throughout the
playoffs. Some of the others have been

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huge for them as well. Aaron
Gordon can guard Jimmy Butler. They just

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have so many problems they throw at
you, and specifically problems that Miami doesn't

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have a lot of answers for.
I think Boston would have been the better

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matchup against Denver just because they have
more guys to throw at Yokis. I

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don't know what Miami's gonna do because
if they try to double him, He's

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going to kill them. Yeah,
when you talk about the matchups, and

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we talked about this in the Laker
series, don't you gotta just say the

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Joker's gonna be the joker, and
the Joker's gonna get his It really is

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about the others. It really is
about Jamal Murray. Is he gonna be

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as hot as he's been? It's
casey, he gonna be able to knock

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down shots, with he's showing he's
been able to do but the joker and

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fixating on trying to stop him or
control him, I think that's just gonna

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get you more problems because not going
to be able to do that out here's

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kind of the conundrum. You want
to make him one dimensional. This is

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something the Clippers dealt with with Luca
Donchets. You can't let him score and

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get everybody else involved at the same
time. That's when they become most dangerous.

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It's just hard to stop Yokich in
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him score. He's such a willing
passer. He's going to continue to look

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for guys. He's averaging a triple
double in the playoffs right now. And

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for somebody, and I know there
was a lot of talk about Mike Malone

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getting testy and press conferences saying we
get no respect. Look, first of

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all, it worked for him to
use that angle with his team and keep

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them playing with an edge and with
a chip on their shoulder. They had

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zero letdown so far in the playoffs, unlike the Boston Celtics, who had

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multiple. If they didn't get down
three oh, they would have won that

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series. But for whatever reason,
they just would have these letdowns every other

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game. The Dever Nuggets didn't,
and Mike Malone kept his guys locked in

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whether or not you want to say, it's tired to use stuff for bulletin

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board material that the media doesn't believe
in us. Nobody picked us when they're

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the number one seed in the Western
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some truth to it. Think about
it. There were guys out there like

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Kendrick Perkins saying it was race related
why Nikolayoki won the MVP the last couple

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of years. That's absurd. Then
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his MVP ballot because he forgot apparently, that's ridiculous. They have an argument

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that we aren't getting enough respect if
they win in four games, and the

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conversation turns into is Lebron James gonna
retire still instead of talking about the eventual

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NBA champions in the Denver Nuggets,
which I expect them to be, Mike

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blow is still gonna be out there
angry as ever, looking like angry Jim

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Carrey. That's what he's got going
for him right now. I think it

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fuels their team, whether it's sure
or not, they feel disrespected and it

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seems to get them to play harder. And specifically with Nikola Yokich, he

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has been disrespected by the media this
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up their names. That stuff was
over the line. I would say over

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the line to go after Yokichen that
way, he was one of the most

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deserving MVPs the last two years.
Is you could have with everything he does

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to affect the game out there,
So I think they got a lot going

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for him. Plus a week and
a half off of rest. Celtics did

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them a big favor by continuing to
extend that series out against Miami and wear

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them down. And they got guys
who are beat up. We've seen Jimmy

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Butler. He looks a little bit
hampered at times out there. And what

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they got two days now to get
ready for Game one of the NBA Finals,

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where they don't have the home court
advantage. They got to be in

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Denver, the toughest place to play
Thursday night. I expect Denver. I

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think they're favored by about eight.
That's a big line for an opening to

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an NBA Finals, but there's a
reason for that. People are gonna say

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they're gonna cover, They're gonna come
out and step on their throat. They're

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gonna be the more ready prepared team
and the healthier team, and they're the

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best conditioned team in the league.
Even when Denver had bad teams back in

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the day, they still usually have
had a winning record at home just because

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of the altitude, just because of
the thin air, Guys would be a

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little bit more conditioned out there.
And Nikolaiokis, remember he lost weight the

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last couple of seasons after being a
heavier player coming out a second round draft

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pick. Mind you, maybe once
he realized he had MVP potential, he

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had to lose some weight. But
they're primed. Both teams are peaking at

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the right time. But I just
feel like the Denver Nuggets have so much

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more going in their favor. Adam, let me ask you about the Lakers.

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Reports today that the Lakers do not
intend to offer de'angelo russell a Max

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Steele that a lot of team would. What I'm saying is the feeling is,

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you know what, there's not going
to be a lot of need for

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guards. Teams have their guards,
and if that's the case, why would

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they offer de'angelo Russell a max deal. First, do you think they should

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hold on to him. Let's start
with that. You don't want to bid

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against yourself, obviously, to your
point, you don't need to drive up

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the price. I think he's eligible
for a two year extension of sixty seven

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million million dollars. If you wanted
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lot of money, that's an option. But he was pitiful in the Western

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Conference finals, and as much as
he helped them when he had good games,

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they were almost impossible to beat.
When he was I think scoring eighteen

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or more, they had only lost
once or something like that. In the

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playoffs. He was really good in
those situations, but he fell apart when

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the moment became a little bit too
big or the lights got a little bit

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too bright for him out there.
As Jared Allen said after the Cleveland Cavaliers

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lost to New York Knicks in the
first round, he just didn't look right.

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I don't know if you want to
invest too much money with him.

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I think the price has to be
right. Remember how they let shrewder go

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the first time. Initially, apparently
they offered him eighty million earlier in the

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season. He turned it down.
He ended up getting just five million from

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Boston on a one year contract to
rebuild his value. It could be something

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similar where de Lo really misses out
on a ton of money, takes less,

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and is on a lesser deal or
lesser longer contract so he can come

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back, rebuild his value because he's
still young, and then go for that

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big deal. I could see something
like that happening. But Dennis Shrewder is

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also an understricted freeation, by the
way, once again with the Lakers,

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so I would think he's more of
a priority just because the price is going

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to be right for somebody like him
compared to Delo. Some bad team that

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has cap room that just has to
get to the cap floor might end up

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paying him. But if I'm the
Lakers, that's not what I'm most concerned

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about. I mean, they couldn't
start him in Game four, and they

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probably shouldn't have been starting him by
Game two in the series against the Denver

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Nuggets, he was that bad for
them. He had one good half the

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first half of Game one and then
it was over. I don't think you

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can rely on a guy like that. That's just that streaky where you don't

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know what you're going to get well, and the defensive liability that he has

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sure that you can't play him,
especially in the fourth quarter or anytime down

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to stretch when you need defensive stops
switching real quick. But standing in the

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West, Adam, what do you
make of Golden State and where they're going?

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Meyers resigning and I just never got
that unless he is tired. Is

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there friction with him and Lake him
an ownership or him and some of the

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players. Maybe, I mean nobody
plunched him on the quarter or anything like

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that, like Draymond didn't get to
him. But yeah, I'm saying,

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like what happens in that situation.
They went four titles with him in his

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eleven years there and it's been obviously
the standard and successful. What happens up

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there in Golden State? And why
do you think he stepped down? It's

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interesting. Maybe it's just run its
course. But everything coming into this season,

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with the situation with Draymond and Jordan
Poole, I think it's just put

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a dark cloud over them, the
reigning champs trying to defend that title,

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and for whatever reason, they could
not win on the road all season long.

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It was the wildest thing to see
their home and roads splits and just

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how much they struggled on the road, and a lot of guys. Jordan

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Pool, he didn't have a very
good season. He didn't follow up where

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he did in the playoffs last year
where he was great during that run,

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and then carry it over. He
wasn't very good. Draymond Green, I

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believe has a player option, So
there's a big decision to make there if

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they want to pay play a guy
or pay a guy who's over the age

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of thirty now, who's been integral
to what they've done. He's been huge,

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But are you gonna gi him two
hundred million dollars? You're gonna give

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him a hundred and fifty million.
Maybe it was just time for him.

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And Bob Myers is great and he
has made a ton of good moves for

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them, but he didn't draft Stephen
Clay. Those two guys were there now.

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He made the move to bring in
Steve Kerr, andre Igadala, Kevin

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Durant, of course, Sean Livingston. He was as important and as instrumental

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as anyone to them getting to the
top. Eventually, he pushed them over

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the top with some of those big
moves, but he'll have a job tomorrow

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if he wants one. That's when
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it says you shouldn't let him go, right if you're the Golden State Warriors.

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But it looks like it's more on
his decision. From the press conference,

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it sounded like there was an offer
out there and he didn't want to

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stay. Maybe he's just looking for
a new challenge. That's something I think

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Jerry West was interested in over the
years, just trying to find a way

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to reignite that fire within you.
You know, he goes to Memphis,

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he wins Executive of the Year.
No, they didn't win the championship there,

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but he made them respectable and they
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Western Conference. And now he's with
the Clippers and they're trying to win their

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first championship. And by the way, there are some ties there between Bob

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Myers and UCLA and so Cal and
Jerry West and Bob Myers worked together with

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the Golden State Warriors as well.
That's what I was going to say,

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What do they do to replace Michael
Winger and with Bob Myers, because if

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he became the general manager here,
that would be kind of a lateral move.

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He'd be under Old. No,
it would be a demotion in some

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ways because he was president of basketball
operations and general manager. He had the

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Rob Polinka role with the Golden State
Warriors. So I don't see him as

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someone that's going to be under Lawrence
Frank, who's President of basketball Operations with

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the Clippers. But maybe as he's
just trying to, I don't know,

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take a little bit of a step
back kind of recharge, he takes a

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lesser role with the team like the
Clippers, helps out there before his next

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big job. Could something like that
happen Maybe, I don't know. I

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haven't heard anything. I know a
lot of Clipper Nation would be interested in

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bringing in a guy like Bob Meyers. Of course, if you can get

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him, you find a way to
do so. But Lawrence Frank has done

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a very good job there, so
you don't want to lose him either.

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He was Executive of the Year just
a couple of seasons ago, and he's

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built a really good roster. Unfortunately, they haven't been able to stay healthy,

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but the pieces are there, and
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they look like a championship contender at
times. I mean Kawhi Leonard before he

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went down with another knee injury,
looked like the best player in the playoffs.

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Yeah, but you're gonna have availability
and those guys aren't available, Well,

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what are you gonna do selling prepennies
on the dollar? Fred restless solution.

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So you gotta double down. You
gotta find a way just put together

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a better, younger, more athletic
supporting cast around them that can help carry

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the load a little bit so they
aren't as prone to injury as they have

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been the last couple of seasons.
That's the hope. But when you have

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two guys that are that good,
at least you always have a chance.

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The other side of it is people
were talking about that report from the Portland

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Trail Blazures. They have the third
pick, they have Anfrety Simons. Would

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they trade those two pieces for somebody
like Paul George because they were a rumored

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to be looking at a small forward. Well, are you closer to a

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championship if you trade Paul George for
a young player like Anthony Anthony Simons and

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the third pick? No, it
doesn't get you any closer today with Kawhi

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Leonard still being there, who wants
to win right now, So I think

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you just have to double down and
hope that luck finally is on your side.

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Because I say this all the time, but sometimes you stay the course.

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The Dallas Mavericks did sew with Dirk
Davinski after they were up two oho

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on the Miami Heat No. Six
and lost in the next four games,

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then came back one sixty seven games
the next season and got bounced in the

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first round by the Golden State Warriors. After he won MVP, people said,

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you can't win with him as your
number one option. Well, five

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years later they won the championship in
twenty eleven. With Dirk. They just

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continued to read configure the roster around
him, and eventually it worked out and

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they got a little bit of lucker
along the way. And I think that's

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what the Clippers are looking for.
Yeah, yeah, I think so too.

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You get you can't you can't break
it up because you're too you're too

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close with those guys being helpful,
healthy, and you just know when they

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are they're one of the best teams
in basketball, So why you break that

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up. It's similar to you know, people talking right now. Obviously it's

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it's fresh, so everybody wants to
talk about Boston and you break up Tatum

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and Brown. Yeah, that guys
is twenty twenty five and twenty six years

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old, right, and their wings. They're two of the most pivotal positions

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you want in the league, two
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it back, run it back,
like, come on, how quickly we

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forget. I don't think Michael or
Lebron won until they're eighth and ninety years

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in the league. People are always
looking for. Not everybody's Dwayne Wade who

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won in two thousand and six.
I think his third year in that stuff

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is rare. Kobe winning right away
because Shack was there in his prime.

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That stuff is rare. It takes
time. You have to build that culture.

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And to polink us credit with what
he said postgame or what he said

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the exit interview he had last week, we're looking for a little bit more

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continuity. Keep the team together,
Keep the young guys together, because we

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just got beat by a team that
did that in the Denver Nuggets. And

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they play so well together because they've
been together for so long. So maybe

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that's the thing. Just stay the
course and hope that window continues to be

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open. For you, Adam,
thanks for coming in. Good job all

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right, Love you guys, Salta, Adam Awsome, Rogan and Rodney La Sports

