Hello, ladies and Jim and welcome back to the X Men ninety seven review.
To us our X Men on the clown Prince of Betrayals Truss. Now,
I'm joined by I Am the Modest Goddess still mus I'm the Divided at
taylor Field. Yes, ladys, gentlemen, we are here to talk about
the penultimate episode of X Men ninety seven. Hopefully you know we got the
finale next week. Hopefully we've not heard anything on season two. We do
have Comic Con this year. Well, they haven't anounced the're going to Comic
Con. I just hope. If there's not a Comic Con, I hope
after the finale, just in generally give us like a ballpark. But I'd
say everyone just brace themselves and enjoy this week and next week because it could
be a little bit while before we go to back to the X Mansion and
all our lovely mets. But we're gonna enjoy while they're here. As usual,
head down below for everything you need to know. Lots of links up,
lots of different retros of out right now. The Apes one just ended
so you can check out if you're We will be dropping our Apes review in
a day or so because Kirkland claims that. So you'll hear on the podcast,
Kirkland tried to claim that I didn't do something, but I have receipts
of him agreeing to something. So it's all good. But there will be
an Apes review this week. Don't worry about that. It's just them being
like, oh, Dan, you didn't traves, you didn't move in the
schedule. But then I got like confirmation of like kirkle back, Yeah,
that day works. Are you saying you're not recording that after this? No
nomore now? Yeah, but that's okay. That's bails on x men,
bails on Apes. Yeah. I know, I don't know the full story
here, but it's not looking good for one party of the member here.
That's okay at least because I did not know until a couple of days ago
that Apes was two and a half hours, and I do think it's gonna
be a long review, So I'm fine. So I'm giving Kirkland shit when
he's listening. But don't lie to Shay, don't lie to Tie, don't
lie your friends, you know, don't you know, don't lie to us.
But yeah, side quest, you and Kirkland speaking about the liar.
You guys did side Quest, and plus you know, Dylan, you are
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then there'll be uh yeah, there should be a stranger's review. There'll be
a stranger's view. We got we got a screening somewhere. So, mister
Buss, what did you think of this episode? Like I said, it
is the penultimate singing us to the finale. It's part two of part three.
Existence is Tolerance. Yeah, this, uh, this is a juicy
episode. It it it feels like it's it's a slower episode that's really just
kind of that that classic penultu episode of leading into that finale. But at
the same time, there is a lot that goes down. There's a lot
of great character stuff, there's some some good battles as it were, There's
some some divisions, there's some I don't know, some some reunions. It's
it's really got it all in that way. But I also like that I'm
so just started with like a very slow, just very vibe centric, like
the first few minutes where we were just there's no dialogue. It was just
characters and faces, and for an animated show, like they don't normally do
that kind of thing, but it really worked here because of the show the
quality is so high. So yeah, I don't think there's much I can
say once when non spoilers, just because we're so deep in this series.
But man, this was this is another another really good one. I don't
know if it'll be. I don't think it's like the top episode of the
season for me. I think it just it lacked maybe a little bit of
that extra sauce perhaps, but it was still just super super solid episode and
all around where it was on your sauce meter there, Taylor, oh you
know there's Yeah, the bottle is open and there is sauce on the plan
that's for sure. I'd say that no one knows how it got there,
but it HiT's there. Yeah, I think that it's it had a lot
of surprises and a lot of things just going on and were popping off that
I'm just trying to keep up with and trying to understand, and just certain
certain divisive moments between certain characters just kind of leaving me on edge just trying
to really catch up with what's going on. So overall, I think it
was a really good episode. And the like you said, Dylan, this
the start of it was was, Yeah, it was quiet and and just
I guess, I guess kind of like a slow burn, as it's kind
of like building up that calm before the storm. And even though this is
part two of this three parter and we had a lot go down on that
first part, this still feels like it's. Yeah, it's just been building
up to something even more crazy. And just the way this episode ends,
I mean, I didn't I didn't spoil myself by going online and looking up
specific answers, but I definitely like checked out a couple threads or two just
to see what people were saying about certain things. I was curious, what's
that before the episode? No after Okay, I said before you just said
you didn't go You didn't spoil yourself, So that's why I was just for
the finale, for the finale, okay, okay, because obviously this has
comic book inspirations. I was trying to see, like what possible, like
uh inspiration, source material they were they were pulling from, and it's just
going to see what people were talking about with these certain characters. Weren't quite
googling who's Nathan Summers, but you were getting close to the edge. And
even last week I said like, oh, it's based off Fatal Attractions,
you might want to look into that, and this man's like, not listen
to me, He's just going on the interview. No, I can't go
right into the source material. I just want to hear. I want to
see what people are talking about based on the source material. I don't want
to just get the dead answer. You want to get teased a little bit,
Hey, yeah, yeah, a little four pe. You want to
get jerked around a little bit. Did you ever did you ever find some
very specific Reddit page where they are talking about the comic but not talking about
the spoilers of the comic, because I feel like that's very rare. Uh
well, they weren't. Honestly, I don't even know what the spoilers would
be in that comic. I just know that they weren't exploring the actual like
comic, and they weren't actually telling me what this is in the comic.
They were talking about certain names of comics, and they were talking about like
these characters, and like, well, this could lead to this. I
mentioned one of those things to you, and again, it all just seems
convoluted enough that it's not spoiling anything for me. Yeah, and I think
that's a good thing. It's like adaptions because there's something big that happened in
this episode, but it easily could have happened next season, like I thought,
And it's so funny. I asked some Marvellliance guys. I'm like,
hey, could this happen? I asked this last week and thank goodness I
did, because that happened, and my question would have been all but I
was just like getting a thing. But like it's they're just adat like even
stuff like the whole oh god, oh like Rogue and Magneto like that happens
at like different places and times and stuff in the colonies, so they're hit
Like the writers bo to Mail, they definitely took like a lot of different
storylines and arcs and put them together. Like remember a few weeks ago that
when the Genosha thing happened. Ever, not everyone, but lots of people
are like, oh, he's for existence, and the villain of that is
Cassandra Nova, right, And we're clearly not getting that in this show.
So I think you're I think even if someone says, oh, this is
what happens next in the comics, doesn't mean that's what's gonna happen per se.
It's not a one to one, but m hm, anything else too.
It's a damn good time. Yeah, no, it's great. I'm
very looking forward to the finale, very sad it's almost over. Not gonna
pull the Disney Plus thing, because I do trust them. I do think
there is a lot to tackle in the finale. I'm hoping it's like a
I open up, it's like a forty minute instead of a thirty minute,
you know. But there's just there's lots going on, especially like the last
five minutes. I thought the stuff that happened in this episode I thought was
going to be happening next year. And we'll get into the spoilers. So
now I'm not as convinced. I think it's much like some people had an
issue and I didn't have an issue with. But spoilers for episode three with
Madelin Pryor in the Colm books, that whole you know, her being gene
to prior to the Goblin Queen to turning back to prior. That's like a
much longer arc where this that was just in an episode. I think they're
definitely doing that with a few storylines here. But it's all stuff I wanted
to see, stuff I've been wanting to see my entire life. There's stuff
that's like iconic panels that are burning your mind, like wow, we're getting
them here, and especially the movies. We've had movies since two thousand.
There's been twenty four years worth of X Men movies, not getting one in
every year. But you know what I'm saying, And there's just still many
things they haven't touched, especially this big one. So no, I love
this episode. Yeah, it starting in the spoilers, but I'm happy with
a lot of it. I'm happy, not just because there's a lot of
stuff whe I'm like, oh, I think they're going this route, just
it's the way it's done, and yeah, I can't wait for next week.
Some great art style, some great moments. So yeah, I think
they they just continue to be just stellar and outstanding. And I don't know
if I can say raise the bar, but they raise the bar and the
bar is not dropping. You know, they're still they're doing their dead lifts
and they're still holding all that weight on them. Now it's all about that
sticking the landing, right, I don't know where we're gonna go, and
that's where we'll talk about in the spoilers. I'm not sure if it all
gets resolved, not sure if it's gonna be Cliff Henary because they have confirmed
a season two. I could see multiple routes, but anything else on sports
before we get cracking. All right, we're gonna crack right now for this.
All right, we're here. Where do we want to go? There's
lots of lots of stuff here. Yeah, I just want to start with
that slower opening sequence. How did you guys feel about the you know,
because Charles coming back was kind of just like at the very end of last
episode. Yeah, we didn't relate to see like a lot of character reactions
to that, just kind of like Wolverine and more pretty much. But even
then there wasn't really much going on there. How did you guys feel about
just the general interactions between Charles and the crew. He needs a nap.
It's the first thing he's gonna do when he gets back to the X smash
and he's going to his room, He's like, I'm gonna have a good
quick's been exhausting crashing down. He could have been like concussed as well too,
as a big crash, right, So I don't think it's like he
landed just like, oh, I need a nap, kids, you know.
I think he just needed general rest. There's lots of napping going on.
He rogue was laughing. Nappened last episode, you know. Plus I
mean he's kind of had like his suit for the last while where that's like
giving him power. He doesn't have that anymore, so you must feel true.
He doesn't really talk about that. This episode's not really about like him
and those feelings. He doesn't really mention the hear at all. He's over.
It's over that part of his life. But yeah, it must be
pretty exhausting for him. Yeah, this is the part where it's like just
me being like selfish, where I would have liked even a little more time.
Like in a perfect world, I'd have this an hour long episode.
In the first half an hour him talking to every member individual. Yeah,
like also him just going to Roberto and Me like hi, who are you?
Like it's just something there Robert all have issues with later on, but
I think that could have been fun seeing him check in with everybody, especially
because this is easily, as far as in our show con Nudy, the
most tense the team's ever been with another I think, right, like,
there's lots of things going on. This is the first time they really I
guess we did lose Morph in season one, but like that didn't have the
same impact losing Gamba did. Right in this show, like see like the
Gambits felt like echoed throughout the whole show where Morph was like, oh great,
you're alive, and then he disappeared or they disappeared for many years again,
so I really enjoyed it. I think the ones that happened were key.
I think Rogue and Cyclops especially what happens, those were the key ones.
He had ones with a couple other people if their minor talked to the
whole group, but I think Scott and Rogue were the key ones, and
I think they nailed that dynamic. I loved the little touch of Rogue rock
and Gambits trench code this episode. I thought that was great, So I
think that was that was and I guess Megneedle as well. Obviously it happens
later on, but he had a hard to heart with him, and I
think that's always always needed. So yeah, I'm with you that I wish
that sequence was longer because, like, for example, like Storm reconnecting with
the crew, you get that really great on one with Gene, and I
just love that dynamic because I didn't really think of them as a particular duo.
I thought of more of Storm and Rogue as we're kind of a duo
in the original series, just because they were like the two powerhouses. Usually
they would just be Clopper and everyone in the fights and everyone's sitting on the
stove sidelines like watching them win the fight pretty much. But I really like
that dynamic that we've got in this series now, just that sisterly bond that
they have with each other, and especially this is jumping forward a little bit,
but that line that they have before they like send off into into battle,
and that because they're on separate teams and Jean says, make them mind
your weather, sister, and she says, make them with it your mind.
I just thought that was such a such a great line drop there.
But yeah, like like a storm and Xavier, like, do they even
say a word to each other? I don't think, And that feels like
a very meaningful, one beautiful storm. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know
I was expecting something like that. I do like that scene that we got
with Jean and Cyclops, just hearing Xavier explained why he did what he did,
and it's we kind of I guess Court have already guessed to an extent,
but I think it was interesting that he wanted them to go have their
life outside of the X Men and that was his reasoning, which is interesting
read. I feel like there's maybe some things he's missing in the plot in
terms of just giving that up to Magneto there. But I like that scene.
Yeah, Like I don't think that was a little awkward for me,
So maybe I won't fully say, oh, that's like a pro because I
felt like at this I guess it's tough, right because Megnia just sent the
EMP. But I feel like at this point they've showed that Scott's like warmed
up to Magneto. So for the first thing for Psyclops to be like,
why'd you leave it to Magnus? I think it would have been different of
Magnets the whole time was reckon habit. But he has and he's been like
a pretty good trying to be a leader, right, So it was odd
that he said that. And to your point, when he's like, oh,
I want you guys to have a life, it's like, so you're
saying that he couldn't have left it the storm to be like, it's like
a weird note like telling them that, yeah, because clearly like he made
a will and everything just just something or even it would just been like yeah
for you guys. But also I thought it might be like the last chance
to save Magnus, right, like give him this purpose and maybe so I
think that was a And again that's just I think what the time they have
and it has to be like, Okay, this for me is good enough.
It works, it's not a gone. That's where I wish they could
have a bit more back and forth. And at least it is good because
it goes back to what prior was saying at the very first few episodes,
right, is maybe that's what he wanted, Maybe we should go live a
life. So it was you know, prior, And that's where you almost
wonder her. Prior's probably been around Xavier a long time to get that's what
she he was putting down, right, So I feel like that gives us
more illusion that Jean Gray was missing for a while because Prior, I just
feel like she knew Charles well enough that she insinuated that's what he wanted,
right, So, and Scott didn't so tricky tricky tricky, you know.
Yeah, yeah, I think that having shorter time periods with Xavier and these
other characters was definitely a missed opportunity. I think him engaging with Storm would
have been a little bit nicer. Even him talking with Forge. There's just
some dynamics here, even talking to Jubilee, because I don't know of them
talking. I love a chair, I can build you a better one,
though, you know, Jubilee and Xavier, I would have loved to have
seen interaction there. I don't think they talked at all though, just like
storem And and Exavier in this episode. So that's a shame, uh.
I mean even uh oh, Sunspot had more dialogue towards Xavier than some of
our characters, and he was just like lashing out, Like what did he
say to Xavier? He was responsible basically for setting up Charles Magneto is basically
the head of school. He was just calling him, calling him out,
So I think that was a missed opportunity. But then they really emphasized,
they doubled down on those important sequences where he is engaging with Cyclops and with
Gene and I like that. I like that he was basically telling him how
this was supposed to set him up for a normal life and other people get
to have the that normal life at the end of the day, but we
always have to come back. We always have to make those sacrifices and fight
that fight so that they can and enjoy that the day, enjoy the tomorrow
and whatnot. And I just feel while he's trying to make amends and he's
not justifying his actions. I mean, it wasn't his fault. He was
taken away by the Shiur Empire and they were trying to save his life.
So I understand that he they're resenting him because he could have come back as
soon as he got better, but he chose not to come back right away,
and he left them for a year and they let they had to deal
with Magneto all that stuff. It's tricky because things would have worked out well
in Xavier's plan if it wasn't for Bashian doing this shit. But Bashian and
as Bashian Bashan did this ship and that's where we're at now. But otherwise
his plan would have worked. And I think Sinister was still messing with the
gene thing though, Like, but they overcame it. That's the other kicker
too, and Bashian is the main thing like that, I think they overcame
it. And because Bashian is the one that spearheaded the attack on Genosha,
so that's really the be all, end all, the trigger factor for Magneto
and all that stuff. So that's really what brought the Mutant realm down.
But I do think though that even though they have this resentment towards Xavier,
I definitely don't side with the Xavier and him just trying to like he's trying
to fix everything, but is he really fucked some of this shit up.
He should have left and just tuned back in to see what's going on at
home and just made sure everything is okay, and maybe like gave them like
he didn't have to like go and like see publicly announced like he's back,
like to all of Earth, but just like drop him. He wanted to
know that nobody should have. He should have. I think he should have
just swooped into Earth and just like reconvene with his X Men and just reaffirm
like okay. Yeah. But maybe that's the other reason he couldn't because he
wanted Charles, not Charles. He wanted a Magneto to think he was dead,
so Magneto would really hold true to his dying wish of take over my
expend turn the tide here be better. So it's just it's a lot of
it's a lot of potentially hopeful plans that really really could have paid off,
but it was really based on a lot of hope, and hope doesn't really
get you too far in here because the prejudice against mutants really seems to trump
the hope in the X Men verse so well, And that's one thing though,
That's what like I get the sentiment what you're saying is like a perfect
world. But Scott even says that to Xavier right, like, no matter
what, I'm gonna end up back here. So it's like kay Ovo was
in Bash and I think it was always gonna be something that I was gonna
get Scott back here, specifically Scott Scott as Gene didn't say that, but
Scott said he was gonna come back here and help his X men, and
he's he went through quite a journey in this episode, and yeah, I
think there's like that's what I like about this character with the Xavier feake.
For the in the original series, they would sometimes call him on him stuff,
but for the most part, by the end of this episode, it's
like, oh, you know, Professor knows best. And then they kind
of forgive a move on the next one right where this and I don't feel
like they're against something. They just feel like, Okay, was this the
best route for you to go? But there's still some understanding of even he
just wanted to like live. He even said like I hoped I could have
that too, Like he just wanted to try, and he was in love
and he wanted to see if he could live a life right, and the
laundro was trying to say that I like, well, you've been a student
all the or teacher all this time, like maybe do something for yourself.
So I think there's some selfishness in there, but you know, it's a
lot hit him sinister Bashi and Genosha, who's a really bad, bad couple
because at the end of the day, like for he was gone for at
least a year, and those eleven months were I won't say good, but
like better like you Magnil says that right, like, oh, Genosha was
exactly what you wanted, right, So they were maybe on an up swing,
but I don't think Magneto and some of the people greet that anymore now.
So mm hmm, yeah, I mean that the lake scene. I
guess when Magneto he creates Asteroid and again back Yeah, it's a back baby,
and then he has that that scene on the dock. I got.
I found myself a green with everything Magneto was saying, I was really find
it hard to just I don't know, like something about Charles and his just
kind of insistent positivity or optimism in these situations when especially with what Magi was
saying of like like dude, you weren't here, you don't know what's going
on, Like all this shit that's happened and you don't even knowing is Yeah,
he's willing to just pass it off because he has no he has no
connection to this place, so he seemingly doesn't care about it as much.
And it's probably just he's trying to keep everyone positive and focused on the goal
at hand. But I don't know. I found myself really really siding with
Magneto on these arguments. They dropped that on Storm too, because Storm's just
like, ro what are you doing? Roe's like, you weren't here.
So there's a lot of that, like you weren't here talk. Yeah,
she had a better rogue went to town. Everybody though, right of saying,
oh you do this, and you do this, and she has a
lot of good points. Storm like lost her power. So like even though
she was there, Storm would just like got killed. So little a little
different form there. And we did get our answer. We were wondering if
Forge was gonna come with her. She did. He did come with her,
so there you go. And he was hanging out with the X Men
and stuff. Yeah they're in love, right, they're getting it married,
go on that honeymoon. But yeah, that's the thing I love about Magneto,
my favorite Marvel villain, and that's where the line always gets drawn again
to where I agree he's completely right in this episode, but then like you
can't fully agree because then like his like his result, his Okay, how
are we gonna fix this while we're just gonna kill the humans? You know?
Like that that's where it's like, oh, where do you go?
That's it's just like it's such a hard line, right because like I always
see and like I tend to like agree with like, yeah, the Magneto
was right, kind of jokes on me. It's like fan, I was
right, but it's like the same time, it's like like, Okay,
what's gonna happen next? Right? And then we've seen characters that do agree
with him because he says like hey, I'm gonna go do this. Who
wants to join me? We get rogue, like we just talked about.
She gives a whole speech about just kind of feeling like she's still and it
kind of to me, does do a good job of leading into her past
of she was a villain and then brought in and it's almost like she's kind
of saying like she's still the black Sheep of the family and feels like she
never gets to support that everyone else does. And she lifts up all these
reasons X, Y and Z why this person sucks and this person sucks and
she's going with Magneto. Plus she just lost Gambit, so she's pretty emotional,
which I liked with her character because she woke up and she asked about
Trask, So clearly that's what I love about the Layers here. Clearly she
semi regretted it or didn't want to do it, but then ten minutes later
she is like, yeah, let's kill all these humans, you know,
like I'm not sure if she's really thought it through, like what Magnito wants
to do, because like, yeah, it's an EMP and it touched on
the sentinels. But eventually, like Magneil's gonna want to level up the plan,
like or maybe they just become slaves. I guess maybe that's fine.
And then we get Roberto. He makes the jump because oh my, you
know, I had issues with my mom and yet two things before I go
to you guys won the rogue spot. I was telling this the tailor before
we saw Apes in the comics. In the storyline, that's actually Colossus that
turns, but obviously Colossus is not here for set story sore she got that
spot there. And Roberto, I I'm not sure now we talked about it
where I said, we said, like, oh, is Roberto in here
just to keep Jubilee busy? Is it just a new character? Maybe this
was just to give Well, we don't want to turn any of the other
X Men, so let's have a new X Men turn and go Magneto.
I like the idea of this, and I like the idea of Jubilee like
this new love interest. But there's just not enough between the two of them
and with him for me to really care. And this is where I wish
there was more meat on the bone with Roberto so I could feel that.
Where now I just thought, oh, they just need another X Men to
turn and fight with our good guys. So it feels and I'm fine with
that. It's still not awful, but it did not hit me the way
that I think the show wanted were Rogue. Obviously he got five seasons.
Even with this season alone, I think it would have worked. H Yeah.
I mean I felt like, if you were to ask me to make
a ranking of who I thought would switch over to Magneto's side, Rogue would
be top of the list. So that made a lot of sense and was
well done, had good dialogue behind it. There's even more setting it up
in this episode with her conversation with Charles. But Roberto might have been like
at the bottom of my list, Like it really I didn't really see it
coming because one, it's like the stakes are so low, like don't we
barely even know this guy at this point, So it's like, what does
it really matter if we do that, Like I don't know. As you
mentioned, like Cyclops, it really seemed to kind of connect with Magneto or
see his side of things at some point, So maybe that would have been
one. I think Nightcrawler would have made potentially more sense because he was a
like living in Genocean. He had more connection there and maybe he could see
the ways like I just don't really get the sun Spot side of things,
and I just feel like now that we're here near the end of the season,
his character has been like such a disappointment and not like a worthy ad
at all. In fact, like all the Jubilee stuff, I would have
been I think fine if she had got these moments with other care aracter is
not the romantic side of things, but just like maybe Mojo Vision is just
her hanging out with more playing a game. Yeah, and I think that
would have been fine, It would have got the job done here. But
to me, it just kind of has that feeling of howevery every movie where
there's two best friends, they always gotta have some big fight in the second,
you know, two thirds of their movie so that in the third act
they can come together again and have this big moment together. And that just
kind of seems like a really forced version of that here, where it's just
like, Okay, we'll have them fight and then in the end they can
like rekindle and be good again in the finale. But it just feels it's
gonna feel very unearned when we get that. Yeah, I just feel like
we haven't really been getting the time so this was It's not really like a
big negative for me. It's just like it just feels like a waste of
time to have this character in the show at this point. And that's kind
of disappointing because I was excited to get a glimpse of this, well for
me, a new character. Yeah, that thing where like I agree with
you It's not like a big negative, but it's that tough thing of if
the show ends and I want to give it a ten out of ten,
I have to have the asterisk of like it has because all this other stuff
is just so good, but really on like a critical level, I couldn't
give it like a perfect score, like because it's like, there are some
issues we've talked about Beest, we've talked about with Bishop, right, there
are some things even Storm to a degree not as big of an asterisk,
but I think they they started the season off very hot with her like oh
being you know megalleva threat everything, but she didn't become as important. Maybe
that will happen later on. And that's where I was gonna ask you,
do you think he's him turning is more likely than Wolverine because I feel like,
for me, Wolverine's at the ball, not just because what happens,
but I feel like he's the bottom of that list of like he of the
characters there that would have made the jump. I feel like he's like Charles
and Gene for life wherever they go. You know, I don't know what
would be like Wolverine's for and against I guess I feel like he's kind of
neutral in my book. I think as he's he has turned a corner on
not that he hates humans or but I feel like he's he's seen that that's
not the way to go, and like for him to be a better person.
I think Wolverine a few seasons ago, but I think the Wolverine that's
like telling g No, you can't kiss me. I think he's like a
matured guy that he probably knows mutilating all these people is not the right way,
right because he's gonna be the one has to deal with it. He's
gonna survive, as we've said before, as they said last week, you
know, another shitty apocalypse where Logan survives, even like I would have like
somehow they could have made the more flynes somehow, like you could have got
that over there because of somehow tied with Sinister and he's just they're just done
with this and they want Sinistor taking out and they know Magneto's the person that
can kill Sinister. I don't know, And it's the other point is gonna
say before Taylor goes I hope, And this is where I'm confused. I
did like when they started to fight, sun Spot hits and he's like,
oh, okay, I like that. Jubilee just went to town was like
pissed off out of I enjoyed that. I kind of hope they don't get
to together back in the finale, and that's where I am and Taylor you
can talk about it too, and because we're getting to those points, I'm
very interested on We talked about the whole time, like, oh, they're
gonna split and everything. But I thought this like Civil War, the team
gold team Blue. I thought that was gonna happen like next year, and
we just get the inklings of it. But this episode we got that true
team Golden Team Blue was just like, oh, different teams, but we
still got that in a sense of Rogue left, Sunspot left, and we
got another character that like, you know, made a heel turn and like
made a choice. It was a little controversial. S's the thing of like,
I don't I really don't know if they're gonna all get back together at
the end of this season. I think what happens at the end of this
episode's really bad, and that might make some of our characters go, oh,
I don't know if I could follow Magnus but I really don't know if
they're gonna get back together in the finale, and I hope they don't.
I hope there's a lot of fractures between the characters, and sun Spot and
Jubilee are like, nah, I can't, well what other what? Like
what what does sun Spot do? Then? Like, what is his story
going forward? If he doesn't come back to the team with Jubilee. Well,
my hope is that I don't see him being one of the like main
like the right hand man of Magnus going forward. If that's the thing,
No really other faction that would make sense for him. I feel like there's
no other place for him to go. And I don't think they're gonna kill
him off because that would no, not really be earned. Yet you gotta
build up that like five seasons worth of gambit build up. That's the tough
thing. Okay, you'll go on a second. The wolverine thing app right,
We're gonna get there, But the Wolverine thing happen. And that's where
it's just like for me and I pose the question of Marble A Lions guys,
and I agreed with Chris where that's one of the reasons I didn't think
it would happen this season because I thought, okay, and the season Rogue,
Sunspot, Cyclops, Magneto, maybe one other that's a team. Right,
It is hard for me to buy that Sunspot's gonna see what Magneto did
to Wolverine and go oh, I should still be with this guy now.
My only asterix is Wolverine did do the killing blow first, right, like
he tried to kill Magneto first, So that's how you could maybe edge that
like the good guy characters to justify it. Go well, even Rogue stopped
him and said, hey, you're you look like you're going for the killing.
She said some lie like you're aiming to kill or something like that.
Like she kind of warns him like like back off, like don't like just
you know, And she could have just like fucking roundhouse him in the back
that he didn't have to stab him. So that's why they could kind of
justify it. So in my mind, I hope that the team is still
split, and because if he just goes back to the I think if that
happens, he will just go back to the X Mansion and that I'll be
lame. So my hope is that he does hang out with Magneto a little
bit, just because he's lost, you know, like he like they don't
Jubilee doesn't really want him. He still kind of agrees with Magneto, So
I don't think he'd be the right hand guy, but maybe just a way
of Hey, Magnets will have a warm bed for him, you know,
m h there we are you on Sunspot everything. Uh, you know these
team divides, Uh. I was. I was starting to warm up to
Sunspot. And I think that the dynamic with his parents being primarily just his
mom being kind of ashamed of him being in the public position of showing off
that he's a mutant. I think that that's that's one justification. But then
again, when she was just so willingly convinced, like, okay, turn
her son over to the sentinels, I think that, okay, there is
some justification here why he's got resentment forming towards humans, which is anywhere that
much. It's that Storm just pop down, save them, and that was
it, you know. And I think too, he probably, I mean,
he doesn't have the experience that Jubilee has. He's not aware of the
things Jubilee has had to do against Magneto. So in this context, he's
making the choice to look towards the future, where hey, this feels like
it's the right decision to better the lives of mutants, and that's what I
want because my own parents turned against me. But I don't think he really
understood the weight of this decision. When you work from Magneto, it's it's
you've gotta be killing people. And so I think that that's great when he's
holding back when he's fighting Jubilee and he feels really really guilty, and Jubilee
is like, nah, fuck you and then just starts blowing his ass up.
But the first of all that sentence is something I wish she did say,
fucking I'm blowing. But that thing like, what did Rogan sun Spot
think? What's gonna happen with Magneto eventually Rogue new But sun Spot I think
he was just a little a little innocent and experienced. Really yeah, but
or Diddy though, is he just saying that because it's Julie the girly like,
but is he just down, like, you know what, screw these
humans? Yeah, let's take him out his oh mother just betrayed him.
So it's just like and he's an emotional state. So that's that's what we're
gonna really find I think next week, to see where where these characters lie
after Logan got fucked up. I mean, my interpretation of it is that,
like, I don't see it as this justifying that Rogue is like a
mass murderer or something like that. Like I I don't think she or anyone
really know what Magneto's next step is. All they know is that following the
X Men is not working, and their plans have not been working, and
they need to go with another strategy and make Neio might be the one who
doesn't have the potential cowardice that that Xavier does, and he might be able
to actually get some change done in the meantime. And yeah, maybe some
people are gonna get fucked up along the way, but just a ton of
people died in Genosha and they don't want that to be for nothing, So
I feel like it's just a sign of desperation. But I don't think it.
I don't like, I don't think Rogue joins that team thinking that magne
is gonna instantly kill every human on Earth, right, but he already he
didn't inse kill every human. But he's definitely killed a bunch that EMP that
would have taken planes down, that would have destroyed cars like that he realized
that EMP was actually I thought it was just disabling the sentinels, but the
fact that it actually made the world go dark, that he definitely he definitely
murdered that at least thousands, maybe murdered. Like they won't stay on the
show. But like, and it's the nineties, so not as electronic and
energy base as we are now. But like they said, all those planes
in the air, and he played he just killed so many men, women
and children, mag you know, just sent in this EMP out. And
that's where I agree with you, though I think it is more just they
can't go with Charles' way, and maybe they just mean does Rogue know that
though Rogue has been fucking knocked out for the last while, they just woke
up. He didn't even know as Trask is dead, like she doesn't know
all the info here, Roberto knows that though Roberto is like fine with the
man isn't on the run too, Like I feel like he might not know
much either. I don't think anyone really like do they really know that all
these planes went down in thousands of people died, Like maybe that happened and
maybe it didn't. I don't know. Yeah, and I think that is
a good thing with the episode right now, with the rate they're moving like
in real in showtime, it's people just really based off emotions. Right now,
there's not many even like a Xavier come back. It's it's like exactly
what Bashan said that he's doing the Humans, that's the same that's happening to
the X Men, the Jean Gray thing, Sinister back, Genosha, Xavier's
back, Gambits dead, Magneto's was dead but then came back, and he's
doing so it's like six to seven things that they're all processing in like the
same few days. So I do give it that way where it is like
we gotta get out of her, and I would understand what Xavier not doing
that, But so they make a plan. Yeah, Gold Team Blue Team,
Gold Team is they have a They were in full circle. They asked
Cable, they say, hey, you know you gotta wear this outfit.
He's like, what is this and cyclop says, what are you expecting?
Black black leather, which you know fun shotkas in the movie. They say
what are you expecting? Yell, spandex. So we've gone full circle.
So that's fun. We get a lot of the classic or different variations of
costumes. We get Wolverine's uncanny brown and tan costume. We got the all
time ultimate bad costume of Miss Marvel Girl. Jean Gray's original costume just fucking
sucks. Like there's so many better costumes of it nowadays, Like they've done
variations. I wish they just did that. Storms obviously rockinger thing. Scott's
rocking the head condom, which is a very divide I like the head condom
for the the canonical name of it, that's what the fans call. Yeah,
I like it because I like anytime the head condom's on, you know,
Uh, Scott's not like he's not clear as a whistle right now,
Like he's like like that's his bad boy attire. He's like he puts the
head condoms like I'm gonna fuck, I'm gonna get dirty, this helmet on.
It doesn't count. Yeah, they can't see my good hair. So
I thought that was really cool. And yeah, we had a team of
I think it's what Jane James forge beast. Yeah, and then on the
the Blue side is Clops Wolverine Crawler. Yeah, and they're going to fight
Magneto, Rogue and Sunspot, and then the other team's going to fight Bashing
and then just the island of Setinels was Bashing. He's got some classic sentinels
back, you know, the human ones are down, but off the grid,
he's got not affected by an e MP at all, but as an
X Men fan, just hearing Blue and Gold that's later on the comics they
get divide that way. That was very cool, and that just felt very
cinematic of you know, you're gonna lead a team there, You're gonna lead
a team there. Let's talk about the Gold team first because also there's some
big stut the Blue. We get Nathan and Gene kind of bonding a little
bit, but unfortunately that doesn't go too well because Sinister also has his hooks.
We got which was very cool. Gene and Sinister fighting. That was
awesome. Yeah, and then Nathan gets turned. He gets to bust out
of his Telcanesis, which he's never done the show, but he does have
it. We don't know Jean Gray's status. It was another kind of death
off screen thing where she got kind of absorbed with a lot of fire.
In Telcanesis, he got Morph popping off as the Hult going on here was
really cool. Beef was a beef. Beef was like the most powerful I
think I've ever seen this individual. He was like using all that strength.
So for me, everything with Gold more the action. This was more the
action heavy part of the episode, but all really cool, great stuff going
on. Yeah, No, I think they kind of reimagining of Sinister's powers
because in the original series he was very stiff in the way he would battle,
and usually he wasn't doing much battle and he was sending the Nasty Boys
out to do the dirty works because that's in the name. But I really
like just him using that kind of I don't know, his shadow ability,
so to speak, to kind of vanish around, slide around. It was
very anime. He reminds me of Little Mac too and smash the way Little
Mac just glides. He doesn't run like he's like very fast, but like
Exaviers are sitting on Xavier, Sinister is running, but it looks like he's
just running on air, just like he's just moving, you know. Yeah,
that's true. Yeah, random, there's just like this little town here
that they go into for a bit and then they leave the town. It's
like the space scene of that was kind of strange, but yeah, just
smashing him through a bowling alley into some bowling pins, getting that sound effect,
it was really fun. Like the kind of team attacks of Bishop,
kind of weakening the sentinel so that Beast could grab some loose wires and hands
and slap them with it and knock them out. Always love those team attacks.
I feel like Beast had a cool look here where he didn't have like
a suit honnecessarily, but he he was just like a dark gray sort of
color. Maybe just the lighting of this island, but I thought he looked
so freaking cool. So yeah, this this sequence was all really fun in
terms of the the battling of it. I mean, Gene's fine, right,
I don't know, man, I don't know what prior. I don't
know a Gene like. I guess they could kill her off and swap her
out with Madalen, but it's like, I think she's alive, Okay.
I feel like it'll go into my theory later on what's gonna happen with her
and Scott and uh Logan. They did have her and Scott hug before they
left. They haven't kissed yet, but they did hug. So it seemed
like things were getting good. But I think as a results of this episode,
I think things are gonna get bad. So yeah, and it was
pretty pretty poetic. If Jeene and Wolverine died same same moment, right,
that'd be pretty yeah, pretty cinematic. Yeah, that'd be that'd be some
big imagine season two. No Gene, no Wolverine, no Gambit, They're
all coming back. I just swear watch next episode. K We'll just trail
back in time, just fix every single thing that has happened, you know,
because oh I would not unless it's really well written. Bishop's been up
to something the whole time, because that could be that could be it that
Bishop's been, you know, having the chalkboard out drawn all the lines.
Because even Rogue has I love that comment a passing calmer. She's like,
we don't even know what frick Bishop is at this point in time. Yeah,
it's funny. Well, let's get to his thoughts after this next adbreak
and we're back just quickly. Shot world's biggest geek said it was great to
see the incredible Hulk his favorite, his favorite Marvel character, and which we
again we talked about who are we going to see? We've seen tons of
people this show, so that was awesome. And then Anthony Sanchez asked,
could you see the Avengers in episode ten? I think more if it was
just a glimpse of them, But we saw a cap, we saw all
the Stark ex post stuff, we saw all. We've sure seen a lot
of them, So yeah, Spidey, my hope is that I don't think
they'll do the Spider Man revival show, but my hope is that they do
an Avenger show and then make it nineties, and I think that's how you
differentiate from the movie as people look at the animated show go oh, this
is like if they did the Avengers of the nineties, that's cool and that's
what you do. So I'm really hoping that goes. But what do you
think about the Gold Team Shenanigans. Yeah, I think having the different team
set up to address the different situations. So obviously go and tackle Bastia and
then go and tackle Magneto. I like that plot and I shout outs to
Morpho. Morph tries to get the upper hand here on Bastian, where he
portrayed, or they portray a Sinister and Sinister comes in, it's like we
need to get out of here, like what do you do? Retreat?
And Bastian's just like, okay, well your tell is that Sinister would always
think for themselves, like Sinister wouldn't try to save anyone else. I really
appreciate that was that was fun. Yeah, he said some sly line of
like an actor should know his roll better and then you just fox up more.
Yeah, he tried the try. I thought that, Like both scenes
were so intense, just with the fighting going on with Sinister and Gene fighting.
I really like that with Sinister, you already highlighted this Dylan with just
the way he was moving around and his move set was really unique. Cool
and yeah, he's just I really liked seeing him just engage more in the
combat here and he's antagonizing Jane, like, I know your moves, I
know everything about you, I know your powers, I know when you skis
were switched, and I can tell you if you liked to know on a
Jeene it's just like you know what, she dropped that fuck you, that
fuck you line, like I don't care and I'm glad that she didn't care,
glad that she didn't get tempted by that, and she just stood aground
and she she didn't beat him, but managed to really put him in his
place. If it was not for Cable being possessed and coming to his aid,
then Jane would have definitely gotten the upper hand on Sinister. But yeah,
he's just a he's a powerhouse, my god. And yeah, just
dealing with everything up in space. I like that tonight Crawler just teleported them
out of the ship into the into the station. Fooling rogue and uh,
sun Spot, that was pretty clever. But yeah, that was just an
intense scene followed by just a hell of an ending. Oh my god.
And then we get to that ending. Blue Team like to salute, they
show up nicral Or Bamps and the Magneto, Michael Magneto. It's late,
folks. Magneto has some good one line or some good speech. He says
some great line about it. It's for you to listen to these two words
that you've never heard before, like shut up. Like he's like Eric Magnus
is done with anything Xavier has to say. Leads to a big fight there,
and I love I love him referring back to leech if like I told
this kid he was never gonna be scared again. And then I saw his
eyes burned away in his skull, like it's just like and that just changed
his perspective again too, because right he was on that island being attacked where
Xavior was not he had his vision, but still Magneto was literally feeling all
that. He's like got fucking leech like particles on him, you know,
like like it's bad. You mean that moment too much now though in this
right just yeah, right, I forgot about that. But then the team
decides, okay, we're gonna attack. That's when Rogan some spot due come
up. We talked about this fight a little bit. Some brutal fights going
on here. And then Wolverine, who I don't think was the best to
send on Team Blue. I feel like Gold would have been the better route
because we know what Magniito does to meddle. But either way, they gotta
get the helmet off classic X Men trope, right, gotta get the helmet
off Magneto. It's like a video game boss. Well, eventually, due
to all these attractions, magniedto gets the helmet taken off by Logan, he
throws them back, Exavier's popping off, Magnito's like getting He's not being electrocuted,
but he may as well just be getting electric. He's going through agony
right now. I don't know what Charles was gonna do if he was just
gonna make him. I think he was gonna make them flip the EMP but
still just like, I don't know what he was gonna do after because he
said left him no choice. But then out of nowhere we got one betrayal
to betrayal, why not a third betrayal because that wheelchair goes rocking back by
an optic blast and Scott says sorry, the other team needs more time.
And then Magneto gets down. He messes up Charles, and Cyclops doesn't do
anything to stop this. He lets Charles like sorry to be frank, but
he literally like crucifies Charles pretty much. He puts the helmet on him,
puts the thing over his belt, and I puts them all metal. And
then we get Wolverine stabbing him, which was crazy because like even seeing blood
on the claws, that was something like I just wasn't expecting. But then
we get the like I saw talking to Tayla before when we were seeing the
apes. This for me. For me, it's probably number one, but
easily at top ten. Most iconic panel of all time in Failed Traction is
MAGNI know, throwing Wolverine down and ripping that Adaman tam off his bones and
someone want to see for ages In the movies they hinted at a few times
Magnia would throw Wolverine down, but then they never did it. But yeah,
they they went there. Man, that was the cliffhanger, and we
don't know is he just gonna be the bone Claus that they can use this
opportunity to be dead. I thought we might get it, but I didn't
think today. But the second he stabbed him, like, oh man,
it was it was brutal. Like the scenes they have his veins popping up.
I thought this was all well done and this was a super dark,
dark ending and I'm so excited to see what happens next week as a result
of this. So mm hmm, is how does Magneto survive that? Or
is he bound to die too? Or is this some power thing. It's
tough because when they zoomed out like this, the stab was only like on
the side, so like, I'm not saying that when they get some organs
but through the chest presumably heart area but clearly not or maybe Rogue could heal
him up some some something like that touch Wolverine and then touch Magneto, you
know something. I feel like they made it look like it was a death
flow to Magneto, but I don't think it was. But like you could,
like I'm not saying he's for sure alive, you could kill him off.
Like, I'm not sure what you do next with Magneto other than I
guess you could do the you know, team versus team aspect again, you
know, but I thought they would have saved these aspects. I didn't think
we would have gone full Monty already here, So I don't know. My
my inclination would be that Wolverine will heal this one off, but yeah,
he'll be forever changed because of it, and you know, maybe Forge in
the future can give some new some new techno bones and that can be his
thing bones. I'm sure he's done it at some point. But yeah,
that this is a pretty grotesque moment, I'll say, from a show that
usually doesn't go to those levels. I mean this revival has gone a lot
deeper in some of the some of the violence there. But yeah, that
was definitely the peak that this show has got to. And so that way
so really really great moment for all the reasons you mentioned. Yeah, I
think the the setup here getting into that final fight with Magneto is just it
was bonkers. And then getting the final fight with Magneto and the things that
Maren had to go through, Oh, that was just absolutely brutal. That
blew my mind. So things were just expediting here again, like I said
earlier, with Cable fighting Jane and Jean's supposedly perishing and then we get yeah,
the team dealing with Magneto. I didn't I didn't catch on at first
to Cyclops having beamed up at Xavier and disabling his chair. Uh so that
is that. That's that's huge, That's absolutely huge. So it adds a
lot more I guess perspective to that character and just how he's it's like they're
his x men now, I guess, or he's not the student anymore at
least now you know, like before we had to be oh what does Xavier
think? Now it's like if Xavier thinks this I'm gonna disagree with that now,
you know. And yeah and that, And that's why I do think
Wolverine's alive, and I think Jean's because I think what's gonna happen is all
the dust is gonna settle. And this is why I think Magneto will be
alive. They'll get bad next mansion. You know. Oh, Gene,
you're live, thank god. And Jane's gonna see Wolverine on some gurney.
They're wheeling around, and when the team recounts what happens, I think that's
how we are getting at Gene and Logan because I think when she finds out
that the reason Magneti, the reason Wolvering got messed up is because, like
whatever you want to call Spaye a spade, whatever, the reason is,
Scott made that happen, right. He saved Magneto, and he gave Magneto
the chance to do that. And I think that's where Jane's gonna think,
Man, I did not think Scott could do that. I think down the
line they'll understand the situation and the intensity of it. But I think the
show is gonna end with Scott leaving the mansion with Gene by Logan sigh,
which usually it's not that way, right, it's Logan leaving and Scott or
Gene with each other, and I think that's what's gonna happen because I feel
I know they did have Scott say I'm sorry, like the team needs more
time, so he was making it about the Gold team as well, but
he's still he's still let Magneta loose, Like he's still he's still saved him
in a sense, right, So it's like, yeah, you can say
you're sorry, but you're still giving him a lifeline and clearly not not good
because at this moment, I would think Scott would just think, well,
Logan's dead, you know. So question So obviously Rogue Rose powers are kind
of disarmed by Magneto. But is it possible for her to take his powers?
I guess not. If that's like maybe a secondary motivation of her going
with him is that she could potentially take his powers and undo something herself.
I mean, it doesn't seem like that's what was going on, but I
just wondering if that's even something she could do with her power set unless he's
like, not to sound funny, but like turning on a certain path like
he's channeling a certain thing so they can touch, you know, like he
has to focus a little bit to make sure. Like oh, because he's
not always just using his magnetism, right, or is a magnetism? Is
he like a battery where he's just always you know, you looked at any
he's like a battery. Then I don't think she could affect him. I
think that's why it has to be Charles and that helmet and stuff. I
think she couldn't take the powers if he's always on, Yeah, because if
so, that might be something we'd see more in other movies. And yeah,
I mean not the rogue has a huge presence in the movies anyway.
But you didn't because you asked me if he's alive? What is your final
because you know, while I'm down this episode, get a couple predictions.
What's your final thoughts on where Magnus ends up next week? Dead, live,
prison, his own team? Like, what is the result that the
end when we're at the end of episode ten, what's the sass of Magnus.
I think he'll I think he'll definitely still be alive. I don't think
they're gonna kill him off here because I think they've potentially set up for season
two to be more of chasing after him in a way. Yeah, I
think they would want to go down that route. I think there's more room
to play with there, so I think they'll make him alive. I don't
know, like he doesn't really have many forces behind him. If it's just
like rog and Sunspot and maybe Cyclopes or something, so we could get the
we could get other characters though. I bet like that like a mystique comeback
or something of like this inspired them to join Magneto up because even then that's
like like him, Sunspot, Rogues, I guess it's not a bad force.
So and then you add a Juggernaut there, he had a I don't
think Samurai. I don't think of Mega ret. I was just trying to
think of any of the characters we saw the past two weeks that could pop
back up. But maybe that's it. We're just some of those other characters
we've seen throughout the years. They're like, oh yeah, I'm digging with
like Piro, like any survivors of Genosha. Yes, prime examples, not
that they were were really set up to have many of those with arcs,
but we did see some in the background we talked about like Blob I was
walking around and stuff. So they love Blob in the show. They love
Yeah, they do. So I think he'll be alive. I think he'll
maybe, I guess. I think he'll go his own way. But like,
I don't know, what do you do? Like, you don't really
probably want him to go back to the Savage Land and just hang out.
There's his asteroid. He was hanging over on his asteroid by himself. Yeah,
but ye don't. I think there's potential there for I mean, anytime
we do the days of future past stuff, like the future is this like
war torn world where buildings are smashed down and stuff. It's like that seems
like it could be the future of a world where he ripped out all the
power and it's just buildings that are topping over on each other. So I
don't know, that's a pretty dark timeline to go on to, but like,
hey, why not that's a pretty bold, fun, different thing to
do. Especially it's like, hey, you've had five seasons of just villain
of the Week sort of stuff, so why not go a deeper route?
Yeah, and some of that could lead into Bishop being gone too, So
I don't know. I think that would be my prediction there, even though
I left multiple things open. The other one I forgot that you could because
if Scott sticks with him is Emma Frost too. Remember there's another one.
Oh yeah, that was seeming like it was kind of teasing something. Yeah,
and I feel like she is, her power is evolving. Yeah,
if she's gonna lean one way, I think she's gonna go with Mayneed,
who was there at Genocean stuff. That that's my bricks where there could be
a part of me. If you were to tell me if someone had run
the show and said, hey, next week they killed Magnus off, I
could believe it. He's had a good run. This is the most kind
of evil he is. So you could use his excuse for one of these
members to kill Mike. The second I see Logan, like even Gene could
do it, right, Like the second I see what he did Logan,
that's like, I do get it. Logan did like did stab him.
But this is like, this is a very excruciating type of death. This
is like ripping the skin off a person's bones, of a person that can
heel. So if you were to tell me Magnus fits the dust. I
could believe it, and maybe you could have Scott be like take maybe that
propels Scott Moore. They kill Magnus and he's like no, like he like
he was on the right track. I gotta fall in his footsteps now,
and I kind of need him alive though, until he undoes some stuff,
right, I agree, obviously Wolverine already went for the kill shop, but
that just feels like a very Wolverine thing to do. Yeah, should went
for the neck. You know these bad guys, you know Smagne, they
learn anything skier him. But I think, yeah, he will be alive.
It's gonna be awkward with a new team. I hope Scott goes with
that team. I hope Rogan Sunspot are still there. Like I said,
we already got it now. So this was getting me worried that it wasn't
split, but I feel like even more so, this shows it should.
But at the same time, I could see certain characters like Rogan Robbie not
going with him now because how brutal he was to Logan. So that's where
I can see both sides if this is the setup that storyline, or this
is the end of that storyline, because that is kind of what happens in
the comics that when they see this, they're like, uh, nah,
you're in too far man, Like, you shouldn't have done that to Logan.
So that's where it's like, I could see this being the end of
Magnus and hell, maybe even Rogue does it. Maybe it's just like Magnez
is going too far. Maybe he does reveal his plans I'm gonna kill everybody,
and she does go, yeah, this is too far. So my
hope is he's alive and we get the Divide. But if not, I
just hope it's good either way. That's I guess what I really hope for.
But my personal tastes, I'm hoping he sticks around for the Divide.
But Tay, we're just talking about some adictions. What are your thoughts on
Magneto where he ends up at the end of the season. Oh gosh,
I thought that when Wolverine stabbed him that was gonna be kind of like the
killing blow here, but no, he just got super pissed off and yeah,
just everything he ripped out of Logan. To me, I feel like
Sunspot for sure is to be like what the fuck? And I just feel
like that would be a huge turn off for anyone. I mean, following
this guy and he's just pulling the metal bones out of this guy's body.
It's just yeah, man, yeah, I would like it if he stays
alive because I would agree with you, Dylan. I think they need him
because he has to be the one to reverse everything that's going on, because
Earth's like gravitational field or something is also at risk because of what Magneto did.
Like they said, there's some there was something going on there aside from
just the electricity being disabled. So he really changed the game here. What
the world ends in twelve hours? I think that was something else that the
team said as well. I thought they said like world world will end in
twelve hours or something like that. When they were like ready to go launch
on their mission or they were, they were saying something along those lines that
the end was coming. Yeah, yess. I don't know what the full
context was. If it was just because the power was shut off and everyone
was just gonna be losing their minds, or or it maybe was the gravitational
related I'm not sure what's all going on? Twelve hours save the world,
and then you still got Subashian like they didn't defeat Sebastian or Sinister in this
episode. That's what I maybe that's the only reason why I believe Making you
Know will make it out, just because I don't want them to Disney Plus
Finale and all would be rushed because that is still all three bad guys are
around, which is not what I thought was gonna happen. I thought,
at least I thought Sinister was going down this episode for sure, because that
Geen and him were fighting. But nope, he's still kicking. He has
he's the best spot. He has Cable on his side right now. So
and I guess thinking about it, like we're still because what happened with Forge
Forge was like he was in the in the jet and Storm was trying to
like he what the jet went down at the end was dead. I think
Forge is dead because that was when Forge was in there. He's like he's
like he's like yeah, and then Storm like tries to like lift the jet
up. Yeah. I didn't like how excited he was for this like apocalyptic
type battle going on, like there's munes at stakes everything like this is this
is pretty bad Ranch just riding horses. I think he just is happy to
have some excitement. Oh, I hope he went down that plane. You
know that he's got he's he's a death that like, I doesn't need to
stick for me, But I'd be completely fine if it stuck, because like
it's like, oh, like I don't I'm fine of Storms alone next year
is what I'm trying to say. I don't need her to be with Forge.
So I think that's like, oh, yeah, that's real bad,
Like Forge died because at least then too when they fake out us on Genum
over and and say yeah, but we we still did lose Forging gam and
you're like, yeah, and that's too. That's two x men that I'm
like, Okay, there's always a Forge that'll come back with Bishop in the
future or something right, So true, very true. Any other last minute
predictions before next week, but any of the team things like that, I
assume Seba it's just gonna die. I guess it's just gonna Actually, I
think Cable's gonna fuck Sinister up. I think Cable's gonna kill Sinister in my
opinion for good. Yeah. I kind of say that because wasn't the end
of that scene kind of a cliffhanger moment of like Cyclops is like looking towards
it wasn't we kind of cut away because I think that is gonna be insinuated
that Gene died because they showed a big blast swallow Gene up and he's like,
oh yeah, I mean I think she'll be I think she'll be fine.
But I they're definitely setting it up that. I mean, this whole
season, like Cyclops and Cable started out in a very frosty relationship when he's
just watching him out the window and Bishop's just too and bottles in the back
of the X mansion there, but then they started a bond. They had
that moment last episode, and then in the car when the whole family's popping
off, and then in this episode when they're talking about their suits getting ready
for battle, and clearly there's they're forming that love there. He's calling him
son and all this kind of stuff. So I feel like that's what's gonna
get through to him. That's what's gonna be, uh, what kicks him
out of it, out of the mind control there. So I guess,
yeah, that's probably what we will pick up with that one. And I
don't know how. I don't know how Jean's gonna survive that one. I
think she just had that shield bubble. Yeah, I think it's just last
minute and we didn't see her head get cut off like Wolverine, so I
think, yeah, I think she's good. I think that's what it is.
Like, she's just like maybe she got blasted like far back, but
she she's got that bubble around her, even if it's like a skin type
bubble. I think it's I think unless she really needed a leech in that
moment to just take the shot for her, but she didn't have one.
Unfortunately. Maybe maybe Forge's like I'm back and she like sucks him over and
then uses him as he's just getting blasted away. Like as much as I
yeah, as much as I'm definitely they'll be alive, but there everybody's something
really fun. If they started at season two of this with like Wolverine,
Jean Gambit, like a bunch of them dead dead, you know they won't,
but I would like I'd love to see how bold they were and then
introduce new characters, but characters out there though they could just easily fill the
roster again, but that that would be quite bold. Yeah, but yeah,
I agree, she's alive, and like I said, my prediction is
she she choose Logan. Where are you guys on the Yeah, are you
guys agreeing with me that that's going to cause her to choose Logan? You
think her and Scott will still find their way together at the end of season
one here, I mean I could see it happening. I don't really think
we'll get any of that resolution next episode to this point other than well,
actually I could see her and her and Scott rather the guys. To me,
there's a there's way more to support that than there is to support the
other side right now. I don't think her see Wolverine mutilated is gonna,
you know, turn the lights on in terms of her wanting to be with
him. But what about not be with Scott, because like he didn't do
that. But there's potential for that. But I don't think. I don't
think it's a two for one. I don't think it's two birds one Stille
where it's see you later, Scott, what's up Logan? I don't.
I don't think quite that far. I don't think it would get established next
week. I just think it'll be like he'll be comatos and when the last
shops be like her holding his hand or her holding his hand, not even
like it. I won't dispute that I could see that happening, but I
don't think it means they're getting it on, you know, next week when
he's recovery or anything. He's just bones now. She doesn't want that.
She's meddle and laser bone claws are gross? Those away, they are pretty
gross. They are gross. Taylor, what happens with their favorite threesome there?
Well? I felt like this was a good send off to Gene and
cyclopsis relationship in this episode because they have one moment before they separate where it
was like a shot of just their hands and their hands, like a close
up their hands, like separate, and I thought, Okay, this feels
like it's them kind of closing off that part of their relationship. But then
you get the moment where Jean's like, I love you, but it feels
more so like it's it's just transition into a like a platonic kind of love,
like I'll always be there for you, friend love. They didn't kiss.
Yeah, So I think that if Logan pulls through, I think she's
gonna be uh, it's gonna be all about those bones, you know.
So why do you think she wants the bones? I think because I think,
well, we already had you never had she wants him like that.
And I think after the previous episode where that kind of little mini revelation heard
and she really could feel like, oh this is okay, this is how
you feel for me. I never really had she put it. I never
really knew that you felt that way. YadA, YadA, YadA. But
yeah, so I think now that Logan will understand, Okay, you've sealed
it off with it's like that that, Yeah, the path with Scott is
no longer an option that you guys, that door is closed. Yeah.
So then you know, especially if if Logan wakes up and sees Frost with
Scott, they're just you know, opens the door, sees them in the
room, It's like, okay, yeah, you're you're over a gene.
You're just trying to make that happen so hard, You're just you just keeps
post. Yeah. No, I you're right. I mean I I didn't
forget what I forgot about the like she did straight up kiss him earlier,
right, So yeah, there clearly is some there, and that's something like
there's a few things, but that's something of like I've said before, they
had Scott and her have these issues they kiss. She said, Oh,
I never knew you felt that way about me, which is like the guy's
been saying this for fucking five years. But that's okay. I guess she
didn't understand. And plus I guess it's a different gene, right. So
it's just like to me, if they go back to scan gene, that
would be marked out. Not because I love the gene and logan shipping,
it's just that what was that other stuff for then? You know, like
it just felt like it was just kind of there to like, ah,
we don't like then that stuff for give that stuff to Roberto, give that
stuff to beasts, Like how not that that storyline? I mean, like
have them like flesh them out, like don't do the the logan gene teas
again, like we did that for like three and a half seasons, right,
So it's like if it's just a tease, that's why. To me,
it was like, oh, we're going somewhere. So even if they
wait till season two, that's fine, But I just don't want the ending
to be like Skaan gene in bed like, well, that was a shitty
two weeks, but I'm really happy we figured it out and say yeah,
yeah, and then like you know to me my X men and like it
just ends with the theme and you're like, okay, cool, you know,
but yeah, I guess yeah, I don't know that you're You're right.
I think another point too, is they they've really been establishing that Cable
does na see Jane as his mother, and she's starting to believe that too.
She's like, yeah, I don't really like, I don't know.
There is some things right it with Nate Crawler that conversation last week, But
for the most part, it seems like they're really trying to establish that,
like you know, it's she's not really gonna take over in the motherhood side
of things. So I don't think that's a reason they would be kept together
either. So yeah, good point on that. Yeah, And I will
say next week, if we are nothing, I will fishly jump on the
prior is dead bandwig and I'm gonna hold out. I'm gonna say it still
hasn't happened yet, but I'm less and less confident about now because again,
time wise, I just don't even know where it would fit in here,
you know, like I just feel like there's so much. I mean,
if she was just under some rubble, like pretty much dead at this point,
right, Yeah, I thought sister that would have had her. But
the fact that he's on the battlefield, it's like, eh, I don't
know if you have her anymore. How many people can need gem because he's
gemming up cable here. I don't know many people he can do that too
at a time. I guess anybody says factory, right, he puts old
gen in them. So, but does he take the gem from his head
and like use it? I think the multiplies it. I think they multiply,
right, A gem within a gem, gem within a gym. Yeah,
it's very cool. I love that gym. Anything else will say about
this episode next week? No, I'm excited. It's gonna be a fun
time. I I'm with you, Travis. I'm slightly worried about the finale
itis here of Disney Plus, but I hope. I don't know. This
show has been so solid and it's been given so many episodes, and it
technically did this as a three parter, so you know, hopefully they can
they can stick the landing with it. Yeah, I am a two thumbs
up with a side of chill. I'm hoping next week I got nothing but
many moments the whole finale, like last five minutes. That's chills. But
uh yeah, I still I'm not sure. Maybe we will do like episode
ranking because I'd like to look back, because there's been many episodes I considered
great and two thumbs up. It's okay now when I got them all together,
what do I really think? So maybe we'll do like a mini segment
on news. But yeah, this is great. I think this one,
I could commanly say is top three. I could even be the top number
one. I still probably put Genochhut one like that was just that was something
really special overall. But who knows me the finales that way, you'll have
some time to sit on it. I'm gonna rewatch them again because uh me
and the girls are watching them right now. But I think I have this
somewhere in the top three. I'd say comping right now, but for sure
the double thumbers in the sun of chills. I'll match you with the with
the double thumb. I don't think I'll add the chills onto my side salid
here. I'm just gonna go double thumb especially, that's all. Yeah,
I'm gonna go two thumbs right up. Coated and sauce. Oh chills,
that's gross and you're just covered it. When the sauce is over the fingers
and you lick it up, that can be. It's tough traveling, it's
not. I I'm not so much of a liquor since COVID. You know,
I used to be. Don't get me wrong, big liquor for other
things. But I mean, like, just like the fingers, you never
know nowadays, right, all it takes is one bad lick and you're gonna
eat food with your hands, but potentially not lick your fingers. Isn't that
what wet wipes are for? Like each time you get wings, you always
get like those wet cloths. What I'm saying is you do not like give
those hands a good wash before you eat something with your hands. Like if
you're gonna chat on some you're not gonna wash your hands first. I think
generally yes, because I feel like I always wash them because most of my
house on the one cooking, so they get washed, so like regardless they
are. But I just still like in general. I don't know, maybe
just you move the you move the chair back and something happened, you know.
I'm gonna say like, I had a popcorn of the movie tonight,
White cheddar seasoning, and I was licking my fucking fingers. It was so
good. I asked, you're just over there just sucking those has the popcorn
with like saliva thumbs. He's like, yeah, agreed, like they're just
dripping down dog here. Yeah, so that's good for you. I'm glad.
I'm not saying. I'm not saying I have not done it yet or
not done it at all. Like there's been times, but I don't feel
like there's times before an how I pick up the nap and go, you
know what, I'll just uh, I'll just give it the old wipe,
you know, and all that. Right. So well, we'll be back
next week. Hopefully we'll hear some of Kirkland's thoughts and go from there and
then yeah we'll have the finale. It'll be ninety seven done, and uh
yeah it's gonna be. I'm excited. It's sad because these have been somehow
way better than I expected as far as quality and just our reviews of them,
and even just the listenership. I think everyone that has listened yeah,
all round better. So I'm very excited for next week. Uh and I
don't think it'll be warring Bye.