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Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented
by fan Tracks, your source of information

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and analysis to help you win your
fantasy hockey league. Fuck off a step

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hit on, stay lost. Here's
your hosts, Jesse Suverre and Victor Nuno

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Fantasy Hockey Live back once again to
talk about the world of fantasy hockey.

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Jesse Severe from fan Tracks and joining
me it is Victor Nuno of Dabber Prospects.

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Victor, as always, how are
you doing. I'm doing awesome.

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Jesse definitely excited to talk about one
of the more interesting teams I would say

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this offseason, But first of all, I have to know, how are

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you doing. I'm doing good,
man, I am doing good. Yeah.

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This is definitely the Boston Bruins.
Man. I remember I'm eating crow

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at this point because I said coming
into last year, boy, I don't

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know about the Penguins, the Capitols, and the Bruins. They're these aging

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teams. Maybe one of them will
fall off. And I was right two

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out of three, the Pens,
the Caps, they fell off. But

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the Bruins just the best team in
NHL history, no big deal, just

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absolutely laid waste to the league.
So until the playoffs, and we have

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one of our boy one of the
big amazing guests that you have got for

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this show, Victor Flutos Shenzawa of
the Athletic one absolute top tier in terms

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of his prominence in the national media. And you've even met him, right,

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Yeah, I met him in Nashville
and he was exactly how I expected

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him to be. He was very
straightforward, very direct, very cool man.

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A few words, but when you
ask him something, he will tell

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you exactly what he thinks. And
it's funny because last year he we there

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was there was some changes. We
weren't really sure and I think he was

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skeptical as we all were about what
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and there was just so much change
and now there's so much change, but

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there was so much achievement this past
year that it's on a wild swing if

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you think about it just from a
calendar year perspective for the Bruins. And

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these are uncharted territories where there's a
little bit obviously with bergeron Alzheimer kind of

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retiring, but there's there's Yeah,
it's going to be interesting to watch and

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definitely a lot of opportunities that way. Guy listen to what Fluto has to

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say about these guys. You absolutely
do. And we've already recorded the interview.

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And I'm not gonna embarrassed Fluto here
because this is an indication that Fluto

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is living in the serious world.
But I did ask him about Immaculate Grid

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and he's not playing the Immacula Grid, which is just things for the immature

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policps like me to probably play.
But if you try to get Victor this

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Immaculate Grid game, is this not
the Putoco? Is it something else?

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It's it's the same. It's yeah, maybe that's what I should have called

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it, because there's different brands of
it. But on the Sports reference page,

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Am I doing an ad for Sports
Reference? Man? If I'm doing

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an ad for you people, you
need to give me the play index again

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for free. But yeah, you
do the thing where there's a grid of

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it's like a little nine boxes and
there's a grid at the top and on

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the side, and you have to
pick players who've been on both of the

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teams, the one in the horizontal
and the one in the vertical. They've

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been in both teams, So like
you have to pick a Toronto maple Leaf

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who's been on the Sabers at Toronto
maple Leaf, has been on the Predators

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in then a Toronto maple Leaf that
had a thirty win goalie season, and

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it keeps going down the grid.
But did you trade? Did you try

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the puck douku at least? Yeah? I did, and it's not really

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my thing. Also I was terrible
at it, So those two things are

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not related in any way. I
think, Yeah, they do it for

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all the sports, and yeah I
struggle. I struggle because you're best off

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if you like know the down roster
guys. But I don't know. But

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there is one player we're gonna talk
about today who's very good in that game,

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Victor. I think that is what
I have to say about just general

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life and hockey fun. But we
create our own fund sometimes and we do

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it in our Discord. It's free. You can join our Discord because other

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social media is collapsing around us.
It is folding up like a cardboard box,

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and Discord is a safe haven where
you can hang out with like minded

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fantasy hockey fans and have fun chat. Not nasty people just die bombing in

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because we're everybody's on good behavior.
But we have chat going in there every

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day, and all you need to
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is you have to actually have a
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there's also the goodness that is the
Fantasy Hockey Life Patreon. Why don't you

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tell people what's going on over there? Well, and by the way,

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I'm going to refer to it as
the artist formerly known as Twitter because I

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don't want to call it X.
We need an unpronounceable symbol. We need

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a prince like symbol actually that I
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his kids. There you go,
Yeah, great stuff over Patreon. We've

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been doing a couple of interesting things. The tidy the Tier Dynasty is gotten

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getting a really nice makeover. As
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really good first season. But one
thing that happened, Jesse is we did

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have a kind of a few too
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that we're making into a second division, so we're gonna do some really fun

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thing this next year. We're actually
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you're all competing for survival to stay
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scores fewer points is going to all
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situations. But you're all gonna keep
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I'm you and I are in different
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teams kind of playing against each other, which will add an extra layer I

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think will be fun. And if
you're confused by this whole discussion of what

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it all means and everything in terms
of the tidy, there are some visualizations

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that can help with that, and
that's where it's helpful to be in the

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discord. As Jesse said, you
can get some great information about it.

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The tier dynasty is a great one
of the great perks that we can compete

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and win your way up to the
top. There's actually going to be a

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fast track option. All this inspired
by a couple of our friends over at

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Keeping Carlson. But this has a
dynasty slant, right, so you're gonna

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play with deeper rosters and have all
the miners, and if you don't end

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up getting promoter or relegated, you
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you lose your team. It's great
stuff. Check it out. We'll discuss

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be discussing the discord. We need
a few more managers in a couple of

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divisions before we're ready to move on
in draft, so that's a good time.

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We have the rankings, we have
the twenty twenty three guys, we've

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already started to integrate them into the
combined ranks. Jess Jesse thinks for your

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help with that, and all kinds
of other great things, Like we did

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a patron cast recently. We're going
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Patron Priority Channel, all kinds of
good stuff going on, access to the

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show notes. So that's one of
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Patreon and the other one of the
other good things is that we're doing an

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average draft position projects. So those
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or even if it's not a solely
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send us the results of your draft. We're compiling that. We're using that

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data to help others know if you
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of want to know. I wonder
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Zach Benson. You can look and
see at the ADP where did he go

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based on all of our drafts that
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you can wait, but if you
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risking it because that's basically where he's
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there's a lot of great perks,
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take a break. We're gonna come
back and talk to Lutoshanzawa of the Athletic.

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We welcome back once again from the
Athletic Ludoshanzawa, our guy on the

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Boston Bruins. Bludo, how are
you doing today? All right? Jesse

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Hi victor of doing great Bluttle.
We really appreciate having you. You are

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one of the major news breakers from
the Boston Bruins in you got a lot

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of good connection and good analysis in
on this team. So I want to

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ask about the Bruins, because boy, what a season. My theory is

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that you can split the recent Bruins
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to the beginning of overtime on April
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April twenty fifth everything that has happened
since. Unfortunately, or April twenty six,

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I should say, I believe was
the game, but the fickle hockey

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GUIDs allowed one of the greatest,
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let it crash down. Unfortunately,
in the playoffs, they were up three

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one, they were into overtime against
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they dropped three straight games and they
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got a credit the Bruins for last
year. They went all in. Sometimes

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we can complain they went all in
for this. They rented Garnett, Hathaway,

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Dmitri Orlov Tyler Bertuzzi, but now
those guys are gone. Taylor Hall

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is in Chicago last week the long
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retired. That closed out the narrative
that started when he and Marshawn were seeing

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hugging on the ice at the end
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could be remembered as a legendary regular
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But where do we stand after all
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back next year. Some of the
people are still getting older, there's not

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major reinforcements on the way. But
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is still open? And if so, what is your expectation for your team,

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this team this year? Yeah,
I think that they still do believe

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that the window remains open. Now
you have to acknowledge it's just a matter

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of fact that there's just so many
players that are missing from last year's team

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that of course it's not going to
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brought the same group back literally record
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to replicate that it's just not going
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oral of Halfaway, Felino, no
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list of players that are no longer
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one other guy might go off if
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hockey trade before the start of the
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the first the goaltending that yes,
Jeremy Simon is still unsigned as of now

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arbitration, but that will get settled, and once that's done, then him

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and Lenas that's the best goaltending tending
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of experience and the difficulty and the
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they'll be better for it. Defensively, how many other teams can send out

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a McAvoy and Allen Home on different
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a pretty good reinforcing core there with
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bringing Chatton Kirk. That'll be that
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Bruins win in terms of goaltending and
defense. And then up try there's not

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that many players better than day the
Posternac. Now you can argue, of

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course that he will be diminished without
David Okay getting out of myself, it

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was David Craigie still hasn't announced what
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think at least the Bruins are operating
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David is not coming back. That's
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we'll assume that's the way going forward. Okay, what is David Posternak without

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David Kigi? Probably not the same, just because they had a really good

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connection both for the club team and
for international to check, So what is

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David Postna without David Kragie. We'll
see. I think David Posternak is the

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type of player that realizes just personally, okay, guys are gone different team.

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It's my term to emerge and I
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I think that will impact his game
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But it's just different team around him, So what does that mean or

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down the line. The biggest issue
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That's just Charlie Paulazaka and Charlie Coyle. You can't compare and it's unfair

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to them to compare them to the
Patrice Bersion On day to Craigie. But

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that's the way it is. The
check has come due, so to speak,

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in terms of them going all in
last year, in terms of their

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futures, and in terms of them
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because of Burgi round Craigie's bonuses.
And the bill has come due in terms

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of past years of a drafting low
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and b because they had spent draft
capital on oral of Hathaway Bertuzzi in previous

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years Kasha which didn't work out.
Lynnholm, you can go back to Rick

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Nash. That's a lot of picks, and I think it's by next year

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it will be six first round picks
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That's just how can you restock when
you philosophically, and you can't argue

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against the philosophically. Just because they
made themselves better and they gave themselves the

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best chance to win last year by
adding all these players, they just they

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choked the playoffs up three one and
then up in the third period in Game

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seven. They didn't get it done, but Joshnak been home, McAvoy,

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Allmark Swayman that's enough to be competitive
for the subcumin season. Yeah, brilliant

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recap of what's going on and certainly
been a great time to be a Bruins

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fan. Fortunately it's just one cup
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but still, like you said,
some really great players, and you mentioned

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the guy we want to start with, of course, David Posternak. What

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an amazing talent, and last year
played all eighty two games, was actually

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his first time going over the century
mark and actual points he went over a

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couple of times one hundred point pace, but did have the games played second

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time playing eighty two games too,
so they're definitely going to need that durability

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moving forward with him being the focal
point as you mentioned, sixty one goals,

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fifty two assists, thirty seven power
play points some of the highlights and

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also for our fantasy metrics second at
his position right wing, which is a

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little scarce in block shots and hits, so pretty remarkable value there. He's

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got eight years left at eleven to
two five million, I think he's definitely

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worth all of that, and obviously, as we as you just mentioned,

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he's going to be the focal point
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ever a doubt before with Craichi potentially
not coming back in Bergeron So you mentioned

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it already, Pluto, But do
you think Pasta can get over that century

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mark again this season? Obviously depends
on who he plays with, but he

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certainly seems like he's good regardless of
who he plays with. He'd be better

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if he had someone like Craichi,
But what if he has Zaca or Coyle?

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What do you think he can do? And what can we expect from

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David poster Knock this season. Yeah, it's a really tough question to answer,

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Victor, just because A on the
skill side, he absolutely this sixty

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one, there's no mistake, the
legit and he can absolutely do that for

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you for not only this coming season, but for years to come, just

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because if it's skill, his competitiveness, his health, like you know,

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to everything, he's complete. And
he's not the type of player I think

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in terms of right wing that necessarily
means to be a center, an offensive

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minded center, setting him up in
every situation. That he is a player

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that can create his own offense one
on one, off the rush, in

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zone, that he can score in
so many different ways. It's not just

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that you can say, Okay,
he's going to set up at the left

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dot and the hammer away with the
one time or which he will, especially

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on the power player. But he's
just he's so dangerous and what makes the

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production i think consistent to project is
that he can do it in so many

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ways. But you look on the
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that the thing that really set the
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most the winningest team in initial history
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defense, forward and when you can
send out a third line at times of

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Taylor Hall Charlie Coyle, a plan
was for at full strength, it was

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gonna be Tally BERTUZI. That's a
second that's second line all day and maybe

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even first line for some teams,
and for that to be your third line.

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That meant that if you're an opponent, opposing coach, what do you

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do in terms of your matchups?
Are you sending out your best to shutdown

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guy against Poshnak? Maybe? But
then what happens when what was the problem

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with the Bruins for a lot of
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they're rolling marsham Bergeon Postnak. Last
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Posternak was doing his thing, would
say, Kraichi and Zaka, what do

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you do? Can you afford to
send out your best to players against that

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line? Then they're going to come
back with Bersion, Marshan and Debrus and

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that line is going to rip you
up. And then when that line is

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against your second bear, then here
comes all In Coil and then your fourth

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line was pretty good too with no
Sick and half away in Felino. That's

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just it's just not going to be
the same. So what does that do

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for an opposing coach? Maybe they're
going to be more willing to say,

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Okay, we'll live with Marshan and
whatever, Marshan and Coil doing their offense,

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but we don't want Passion scoring three
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hard to say, because I think
there are those elements that he is a

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willing, has a skill and knows
and likes the pressure of being the man

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without Patrice at least there so,
and he will take that seriously and that

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will impact his game. But it's
just there are so many pieces that are

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not coming back from last year's team
that are to make it different and challenging

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for Jim Montgomery offensively to say to
give David passion Act the freedom that he

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had at times last year. So
maybe the answer is somewhere in the middle.

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Victor. I'll say that in terms
of skill that yes, he can

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put up those numbers every day,
all day. But there's something to be

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said for dubth He talked about Brad
Marshaun. Obviously he is the other superstar

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piece, a reputational superstar coming back
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Fluto, he fooled me into believing
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piece at the beginning of the season, and for the second straight year he

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showed up quick and performed at a
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a team this dominant. There were
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For the first time since twenty fifteen
sixteen, he had below a point per

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game pace eighteen thirty two average timonis
was the lightest time burden since twenty fourteen

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fifteen. Shots for game dropped from
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or two more of his career norm
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Still gets more than a hit per
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said, the perfection line was split
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with poster knock. Marshawn to only
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of his minutes, but he was
locked to Patrice Bergeron seventy eight percent of

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the time. Look at this guy's
charts. Man. With Marshawn, the

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Bruins had a thirty percent better than
league average offense expected goals for pers sixty

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at three point three eight Boston without
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average. It's just insane looking.
And he improved their defense and he pretty

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much dragged every other player on the
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What do I have to say about
Marshawn? What's going to happen to

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him without Bergeron? Without Bergeron?
Last year? If you look at some

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of the small sample stats, it
wasn't great. But is Marshawn still a

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point per game guy in this post
Bergeron era. That's a tough one answer

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too, Jessie. I will say
no, because, okay, if you

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go back to last year, I
think he will say and it's absolutely reality

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that he never felt himself in terms
of really bold faced brat marshing just because

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of the hip surgery, that's a
major double hip surgery at the beginning of

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the season. Now, he did
come back early, earlier than expected,

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and that's Brad, that's just him. That's his work ethic, his drive,

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his will, his love to play
and to compete. That yes,

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that got him back on the ice
sooner. But I think and he said

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there were times where he just didn't
feel himself and did he ever get to

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that point? I don't know.
So you take that into account for this

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year, it should be healthy,
so there shouldn't be that issue at the

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beginning of the season. But the
factors again, the depth and especially the

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partnership that's just boy to go twelve
seasons pretty much of everything. They did

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everything together him power play, five
on five, killing, that's just he's

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never going to have another center to
play with that has that kind of experience

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together. They just they knew where
each other was and they were just so

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innate in terms of their thinking and
their processing and their play that it absolutely

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has to have an effect on Brad's
production. And then you bring in the

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fact that thirty five years old.
Now there is that part that I think

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he's going to be the next captain, and I think he will, like

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David Pasha, I think he will
take that very serious. He takes that

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leadership and that responsibility very seriously,
and I think that will impact his game.

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I think that will touch upon his
performance. But to what degree at

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that age and with that much wear
and tear and without Patrice, I think

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there are a lot of elements there
that make you say, boy, it's

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gonna be really hard for Brad in
terms of his own individual production to put

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it out to where it has been
historically. Now he'll still get as such

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as he'll be right side half Wall
guy down all on the powerplay, so

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they'll be there. He'll get his
cookies there with pasternakan who knows who else

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will be there on the powerplay.
But again, Patrise huge part of that

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powerplay, and Brad was critical in
terms of getting that puck to Patrise and

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the bumper and then Patrise sometimes giving
it back and opening up Brad for his

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opportunities on the powerplay. So we'll
see. And he's a tremendous athlete,

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keeps himself in great shape. I
think he is in terms of other thirty

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five year old players. He's probably
a little bit younger, so to speak,

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just because of how fit he is
and how seriously commits himself to fitness

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and conditioning and strength and everything.
But yeah, there's there is, there's

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a lot of check marks and the
negative column for Brad's future production. Yeah,

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that's a very good point. And
so the next guy we're gonna talk

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about, and this already speaks to
the depths because in past years we would

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obviously be talking about Kraci and Bergeron
and Taylor Hall perhaps, but Jake Debrusk

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is going to hold this third spot
for us now in terms of fantasy,

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and he's certainly come a long way. He played only sixty four games last

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year. Injured at the Winter Classic
caused him to miss a few weeks,

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but twenty seven goals twenty three assists
for sixty four point pace was the highest

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of his career. So we're the
fourteen power play points and the time on

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ice as well were career highs,
and it's had an ice trajectory kind of

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started off in that fifty point range, but this is a new threshold for

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him. He has one year at
four million left and it seems like he's

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turned the corner. You look at
his underlyings and his expected goals four and

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against are well above one standard deviation
close to two, so in the top

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close to the top ten percent or
so of the lead. Really good.

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Of course this comes at a good
time him coming to his own with some

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other departures. And I guess the
big question is Fluto, do you think

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debruss can build on the season he
had and get even more points with this

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increased role. Is he someone who
can flirt with seventy point pace maybe potentially

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more because you have to figure he's
going to get a more prominent role,

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right, yes, and I expect
him to be elevated in terms of production.

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I think the most critical element in
all this is a contract year,

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and he's going to be very driven
to cash in. Who knows if it's

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with Boston or if it's with somebody
else. But you look at his last

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deal that in retrospect he's underpaid four
million a year for the for two years

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and this is a second season.
Now that's partly because of circumstance that when

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he signed his deal he was still
possibility that he had his hand raised high

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in the air to be traded at
the time because majorly major factor was Bruce

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Cassidy was still the coach and it
was no coincidence that he pulled that right

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off the table as soon as Bruce
gets let go and Jim Marchin us in.

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And he has absolutely proven himself Jake
to be a very good all around

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player too. That he's killing penalties
now, he's checking better, and yes,

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offensively and at right waying too.
Let's not forget that for most of

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his career in Boston that they had
him playing on the left side. So

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when he's been playing on the right
side, he's been very good in terms

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of creating for himself and for Brad
and Patrese when those were his primary linemates,

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and being a that front guy on
the powerplay. That'll stick and he'll

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get more reps there because he was
at times he was competing with Taylor Hall

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for that job and that would be
a clear cut job for him. Yeah,

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and he's been relatively sturdy. Yes, he missed a good chunk of

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time, but that's tough to it
out. Two major injuries during the Winter

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Classic and he finished the game and
scored it was a two goals, so

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huge a tough kid. Yeah,
he'll be absolutely motivated to cash in.

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So I think that will be the
primary factor in terms of his production,

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being where the Bruins want, where
he wants, and it'll be good for

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him because it looks like the circumstances
will be good in terms of the Bruins

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that they will have way more free
cash available next summer. So if they

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believe that he is a long term
piece here financially, they can make your

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work. And then around the league, you look at the cap expected to

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rise, that there'll be opportunities for
Jake with other teams too, and who

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knows what kind of price tag he'll
command, But you look at if he

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scores more than thirty, which I
expect him to do, then yeah,

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he's going to double that salary at
least, and that'll be important. Yeah.

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I think I remember, don't want
to miss cool, but I think

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I remember you've being on last year
talking about this guy and the fact that

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the new coach he expected would probably
improve his situation, and certainly that is

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exactly what happened. Acta is the
next guy up in our list of guys

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here. After spending the first seven
years of his career in New Jersey signing

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rights were traded to Boston last summer, and after signing a one year of

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deal for last season, he extended
for four more this past winner and twenty

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six years old, some sites are
projecting him as Boston's new center one.

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I guess it's this is all a
subject to Crecy and was subject to Burgerama

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not anymore, and thinking about Zaka's
possibly powerplay one as well, that would

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be tremendous news for him, especially
if poster Nak and Marshawn were reunited with

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him there. It sounds like there's
not an anticipation of poster Nak and Marshawn

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being reunited as the wings for one
center. But tell me if I'm wrong.

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He hit a high sentil on the
offensive end last year and although it's

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not elite, it's very respectable.
And are the Bruins looking for him?

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Is potentially they're top center then for
the Bruins in your term, Yeah,

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and they have no other choice.
That sounds demeaning to Pavel, but it's

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yeah by default, Patriscan, assuming
David h is gone, then yes,

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Pavel, And and we saw some
time at center last year and he was

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good. He can drive play through
the middle. He's got a really good

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shot. He doesn't use it enough. I'm sure they'll be on him to

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shoot more. But six to four
skilled with the puck, developing a little

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bit more confidence. So yes,
by default he is their number one center,

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just because he's just more offensive minded
than Charlie Coyle and Trent Frederick.

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Again, he's restricted and will assume
that maybe he could be the third line

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center assuming status quo, but that's
going to be I think, not just

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positionally but mental. That's going to
be a big adjustment for Pavel. Let's

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not forget that for most of last
season he was there number two left wing,

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and it's just there's just so much
more responsibility mentally that goes with being

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00:30:14,079 --> 00:30:18,559
the number one center and Pavel from
I don't know Pavel that well, but

405
00:30:18,759 --> 00:30:22,200
from what I know of covering him
last year, he's he's a serious guy.

406
00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:27,200
And he even acknowledged that one of
his problems in New Jersey was that

407
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:33,400
he'd go to three four games without
scoring and that would get to him mentally

408
00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:38,160
and he'd have a tough time trying
to unearth himself from that kind of situation.

409
00:30:38,599 --> 00:30:42,440
Now he's older, he's more mature. He had a really successful first

410
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:47,480
year in Boston, but I think
that's just who he is as a person.

411
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,960
So I think that will be something
that he's going to have to deal

412
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,680
with and how will he Because it's
going to happen where he's going to go

413
00:30:55,839 --> 00:31:00,559
those five game stretches where it's just
not going in for him, his lines

414
00:31:00,599 --> 00:31:06,839
not producing and the Bruins are not
winning. He's getting all the tough assignments

415
00:31:07,839 --> 00:31:11,720
that other coaches are sitting against him. How will that impact his game?

416
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:17,160
I don't know. I think that
he will have to find work workarounds for

417
00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:22,200
that, to just persevere and just
fight through when things are not going his

418
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,640
way. So I think there's going
to be some challenges for Pabel that certainly

419
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,799
skill wise, and you can pretty
much guarantee that he'll be playing with Postnark,

420
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,240
so that's a plus. That's good
for any center to be playing with

421
00:31:33,359 --> 00:31:37,680
David, So that will impact Boubel's
game. They have history together, they

422
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,799
have chemistry, they work well together, so that's a positive in his factor.

423
00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:47,599
Who will be their left wing?
Who knows at this point, Yeah,

424
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,920
I don't think that they will be
putting Marshrin and pastern Ark together just

425
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,319
because that was such a big part
of their success to be splitting them up

426
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,480
last year, and I'm sure situationally
there'll be sometimes where they go back together.

427
00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:05,279
But yeah, to be able to
spread the wealth offensively, I think

428
00:32:05,599 --> 00:32:09,079
that's something that will be Jim Montgomery's
preference. So will be that left wing.

429
00:32:09,279 --> 00:32:13,799
Maybe even Jake Debrest goes back to
the left wing. Is it possibly

430
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,000
James van Riemsyke, who knows?
There's Yes, there's a big opening there

431
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:22,519
at the left wing. And on
the powerplay, yeah, Povell could in

432
00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:27,000
theory be on the top power play. But the issue there is the shot

433
00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:30,799
he's a lefty versus Patrise. So
if they want to keep that template together

434
00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:37,240
on the first power play, would
they prefer a right shot in Charlie Coyle

435
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:42,680
say to stay in that bumper position. Who knows, because if they go

436
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:47,640
with Pavel and that bumper, that
highest slot guy, then they have to

437
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,599
redesign the power play. I don't
know how willing they would be to do

438
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:57,559
that. But in terms of merit, yes, he could certainly be a

439
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:02,160
top power play guy just because of
the thinking and the shot which is which

440
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:07,920
is certainly first powerplay quality, but
the handedness is something that they would have

441
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:12,480
to consider. Yeah, that's He's
a tough one to project, just because

442
00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:15,839
skill wise it's all there, but
I think mentally there is some burden that

443
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,799
will be upon Pablo that he's going
to have to deal with. And that's

444
00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:24,640
a lot of pressure to deal with, to say, Okay, not just

445
00:33:25,079 --> 00:33:30,759
top line guy, but top line
center when for most of his career he's

446
00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:34,000
been on the wing. That's going
to be something that he's going to have

447
00:33:34,079 --> 00:33:37,880
to adjust to and it's not going
to be easy. That's a great point

448
00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:43,400
about the handedness on the powerplay and
then wanted to stick with such a successful

449
00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:47,640
system in how maybe that's not the
position that Zaca is most adaptable too.

450
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,319
Very interesting, all right, you
mentioned both of these guys in our last

451
00:33:52,319 --> 00:33:55,319
discussion, but I'm just going to
throw two more veteran wingers at you,

452
00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:00,279
two more veteran forwards at you,
and that is James Rinsdyke Charlie Coyle,

453
00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:05,160
both of them a half point per
game guy at this stage in the career,

454
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,639
different points in their career, though, JVR in his sixty one games

455
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:13,639
for the Flyers last year thirteen twenty
one or fifteen twenty one average time on

456
00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:16,519
ice, and only four of his
twenty nine points were on the power play,

457
00:34:16,559 --> 00:34:21,079
even though I've always heard he's supposed
to be the good NetFront guy on

458
00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:23,519
the power play, So that wasn't
working out in Philadelphia, Charlie Coyle,

459
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:28,679
he put up forty five points in
eighty two games, sixteen fifty nine average

460
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,440
time on ice. Like you said, one of the remaining centerment options for

461
00:34:31,519 --> 00:34:36,519
this Bruins franchise. Not especially strong
in terms of the shots, blocks,

462
00:34:36,559 --> 00:34:39,480
hits, which we like over here
in fantasyland, but certainly a real life

463
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:44,320
contributor for these Bruins. If you
line these two guys up, what do

464
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,039
you expect and which one of them
you think? But maybe we'll have a

465
00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:51,159
higher scoring year, the more important
role for these Bruins overall next year.

466
00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:57,360
Oh, Charlie Cole, for sure, just because a center be younger than

467
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,639
James and he's just there's no two
ways around it. He has to emerge.

468
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:05,800
Okay, you can say all you
want, and it's true that he's

469
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,920
optimized as a third line center,
very good in that role, especially in

470
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,840
Boston behind Patrisan David. But that's
just it's not going to be the reality

471
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:20,639
for him. So as your second
mind center, there's been issues with Charlie.

472
00:35:20,679 --> 00:35:23,480
They tried two years ago when David
Krezi was playing over in check.

473
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:29,639
They gave Charlie a plenty of opportunities
to be the second line center a lot

474
00:35:29,679 --> 00:35:35,679
of the time with Taylor Hall and
it just never really gained traction. That

475
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,559
year. It turned out to be
Eric Halla was their best fit as second

476
00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:42,280
mind center, and Charlie went back
to the third line. It was fine

477
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:49,960
there, it just can't happen this
year that it's it can So can he

478
00:35:50,119 --> 00:35:55,239
be second line center with Brad?
Yeah, there's there's had decent production together,

479
00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:00,360
So perhaps that's a pair that they
could go back to. And yeah,

480
00:36:00,639 --> 00:36:06,440
Charlie, we've seen down low he's
very going to possess in the puck.

481
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,400
I can extend shift time. Does
that necessarily lead to chances, not

482
00:36:10,639 --> 00:36:15,760
consistently for himself or for his linemates, But I think he is a type

483
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:22,239
the type of player that team wise
is more than the numbers that he fills

484
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:27,519
a role. He does everything,
especially last year he was first guy out

485
00:36:27,559 --> 00:36:30,639
on the PK with no sick and
need a very good job killing so he'll

486
00:36:30,679 --> 00:36:36,039
get plenty of opportunities there to kill
powerplay. Yeah, maybe he could be

487
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,159
if they look at the right shot
and say, okay, can he give

488
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,559
us some of what Patriz gave us
on the powerplay? Maybe he does slot

489
00:36:43,639 --> 00:36:47,639
in there as the bumper on the
first powerplay, But in terms of individual

490
00:36:47,639 --> 00:36:52,880
production, I just don't see him. That's just never been his strength.

491
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:58,159
So I just don't see him even
if they need it. It's just in

492
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,360
terms of numbers. I don't think
will ever be there for Charlie. And

493
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:05,800
I think that's okay that he's as
long as he's doing his job of winning

494
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:10,400
faceoffs, playing against top players,
at least holding his ground offensively, that

495
00:37:10,679 --> 00:37:15,079
they'll be okay with that. That
Okay, you can say all you want

496
00:37:15,079 --> 00:37:21,360
that they need him to be better
offensively, that maybe it's just not within

497
00:37:21,519 --> 00:37:24,119
this player, and they'll be okay
with that as long as he plays that.

498
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,119
As long as the ice time is
high, and I think the ice

499
00:37:28,119 --> 00:37:32,519
time will be high, does that
correlate better members for him. I don't

500
00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:37,320
necessarily think so. But the ice
tign will be high and the usage will

501
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,760
be high, as van riems like, I don't think the expectations at least

502
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:47,639
mine aren't that high bottom six wing
probably second power play net front guy.

503
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:53,840
But yeah, you look at the
trends and he's not. He's been around

504
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,840
for a long time, James,
and see the type of player that he

505
00:37:58,039 --> 00:38:00,480
was in earlier years. No,
I don't think so. I don't think

506
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:06,760
they're expecting him to do that.
And who knows if they have any kind

507
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:12,559
of younger presence pushing him from below. They don't. This is one of

508
00:38:12,559 --> 00:38:16,199
the problems is that they're really thin
when it comes to their prospect pool.

509
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:22,679
But if there's some kind of emergence
from below, I don't think they'd have

510
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:27,880
any issues of putting down in providence
because at his contract number, there's no

511
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,719
cap penalty in terms of burying a
player like that in the American League.

512
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:37,599
Will it come to that, Probably
not. Would it happen if there is

513
00:38:37,639 --> 00:38:42,960
somebody there, they'd have no hesitation
in doing that. Now, perhaps in

514
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,559
this kind of situation that he will
not I don't know, rebound, but

515
00:38:46,639 --> 00:38:52,840
at least hold his ground in terms
of private production. But you look at

516
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:57,039
the age the style of play too, and now I think there is a

517
00:38:57,079 --> 00:39:00,559
bit of a team wide transition for
the Bruins. I don't they'll be as

518
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:06,199
explosive offensively, what were they the
second best teams in terms of goals for

519
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,559
last year. That they're bigger,
perhaps there'll be a more of a possession

520
00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:15,440
element to their game. And maybe
that's that certainly suits James's style, that

521
00:39:15,559 --> 00:39:21,719
he's not going to be like the
Florida type of just go that. Maybe

522
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:28,920
there is some opportunity for himself for
possession. So we'll see, but yeah,

523
00:39:29,039 --> 00:39:35,559
I'm not I don't think projections are
high for family. One more thing

524
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:38,280
I want to ask you is we've
heard, speaking of all this depth,

525
00:39:38,559 --> 00:39:42,440
we've heard a lot of people speculate
that, oh, they're not going to

526
00:39:42,519 --> 00:39:45,719
go in this season with Coil and
Zaka, They're going to go out and

527
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:52,800
land a first line center, which
to me sounds pretty unrealistic considering the assets

528
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:57,079
they have and the cat flexibility,
even though, as you mentioned, having

529
00:39:57,199 --> 00:40:00,320
Zacca Coil as your one two isn't
necessarily ideal. But do you think that

530
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:06,840
they will actually make a significant push
for any of the potentially available top line

531
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,000
centers. I know guys like Schifley
have been mentioned. Do you think that

532
00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:14,480
they make a move like that or
try. I think they'll try. Absolutely,

533
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,639
they'll try. But will they succeed
No, I don't think so because

534
00:40:16,679 --> 00:40:21,719
of the reasons you mentioned first.
They I think it would have to be

535
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,639
a hockey trade just because of the
salary cap. There's just they don't have

536
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:31,920
enough space. Once they sick Swaymon
Frederick, they'll be down to depending on

537
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:36,199
who actually makes a team. There
is some wiggle room there, but it's

538
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:42,119
not enough to bring on a five, six, seven million dollar player without

539
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,519
equal money going out the door,
without salary retention. Now, perhaps those

540
00:40:45,559 --> 00:40:51,280
teams, maybe Winnipeg, maybe Calgaries
desperate enough to gain some kinds of assets

541
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,079
to say, yes, we'd be
willing to retain salary, make it work.

542
00:40:54,719 --> 00:41:00,079
But then you go back to the
assets. Okay, let's put them

543
00:41:00,199 --> 00:41:05,960
up against I don't know five other
bidders. Do the Bruins have enough in

544
00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:12,480
terms of future assets to make it
worthwhile for in Winnipeg or Calgary when other

545
00:41:12,519 --> 00:41:15,960
teams with deeper prospect pools are in
the bidding. No, I don't see

546
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:21,280
it like there's not if you look
at what the Bruins are offering, they

547
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,920
don't have. If they still don't
have a first round pick, for twenty

548
00:41:24,039 --> 00:41:29,440
four and I think they're still down
a second round for twenty twenty four.

549
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,519
So there's that. And then you
look at some of their prospects. Do

550
00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:37,800
they really move the needle for you
if you're a high end if you're the

551
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:43,599
owner of a high end center,
not really? And can and then on

552
00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:46,840
the flip side, can the Bruins
a four to give up another prospect?

553
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:52,360
Though not really. So they're up
against it in terms of the cap and

554
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:57,000
in terms of what they have to
spend in terms of their capital, their

555
00:41:57,079 --> 00:42:01,039
pick and prospect capital, So they'll
be in a much better position next year

556
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,800
and next summer to say, okay, all right, we couldn't get in

557
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,079
the bidding. Let's just say,
for example, for Schiffling, okay,

558
00:42:08,119 --> 00:42:13,280
because in that situation you have to
pay twice in a sense, you have

559
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,440
to pay for the return, you
have to pay the picks and prospects for

560
00:42:16,559 --> 00:42:21,760
the player. And then you're not
going to just acquire a player like that

561
00:42:22,039 --> 00:42:24,320
as a rental. You want them
long term to the place Pat Rise and

562
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:29,880
David, So you have to pay
up in terms of the contract. So

563
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,119
would you rather just wait till next
time when you have to pay once so

564
00:42:34,159 --> 00:42:38,639
to speak, in terms of just
paying the UFA price. Now that seeds

565
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:45,840
to speak a year of competitiveness.
But again that's just the situation that the

566
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:51,239
Bruins are in this coming year,
that the bill has come due, and

567
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,320
this is probably what they're just going
to have to fight through that They're just

568
00:42:55,360 --> 00:43:00,559
going to have to live with being
centered deficients and rely on the goaltending and

569
00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:07,480
the defense and passion rock to carry
the day. Is that enough to make

570
00:43:07,559 --> 00:43:12,840
you replicate last year? Absolutely?
Note is enough to get you into the

571
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:17,679
playoffs? Yes? Is enough to
get you one playoff round? Possibly like

572
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,480
they didn't want a playoff round last
year. Maybe they could this way and

573
00:43:22,519 --> 00:43:28,199
then reassess the situation going to UFA
next year, but no, I don't.

574
00:43:29,199 --> 00:43:34,519
Yes, they will explore the possibilities. Is it realistic to get a

575
00:43:34,559 --> 00:43:40,880
top two center at this point in
their situation? No, Yeah, makes

576
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:45,280
a lot of sense. One more
quick one on the forwards. They're one

577
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,400
of their prime assets that they could
give, which, as you mentioned,

578
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,599
maybe not as high end. But
Fabian le So he seems pretty close to

579
00:43:52,679 --> 00:43:55,679
NHL ready. He's had some pretty
decent time in the HL. Do you

580
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,840
think that he plays a role on
the NHL team this year or is he

581
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:06,519
gonna stay in the AHL. There's
certainly opportunity for him, way more than

582
00:44:06,559 --> 00:44:09,480
in past year or so. It
depends on how he shows up. But

583
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:15,159
he was he was a first year
pro last year who hit several walls,

584
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:21,559
hit a wall around world juniors,
went to play for Sweden and was there

585
00:44:21,599 --> 00:44:25,760
was nothing there for whatever reason,
very poor showing and then concussion in the

586
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:30,559
playoffs American League playoffs which ended his
season. So those are issues. Those

587
00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:37,039
are some red flags on fabians checklists
and what was his big issue last year

588
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:42,079
as a first year of pro strength? So has he put himself reinforced himself

589
00:44:42,119 --> 00:44:46,639
his body to put himself in the
best position to succeed at the NHL level.

590
00:44:46,679 --> 00:44:52,519
We don't know. That will be
quite evident in training camp and if

591
00:44:52,559 --> 00:44:57,800
there's any kind of deficiency there,
it's right back to the American League for

592
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,960
Fabian. So well, there be
a window for him to push up top

593
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:08,519
absolutely just because of let's say,
okay, they have a passion lockdown number

594
00:45:08,519 --> 00:45:13,679
one right wing, Jake Dobrusque number
two right wing. But depending on where

595
00:45:13,679 --> 00:45:16,639
they seen Jake's strengths, maybe he
goes back to the left side. There's

596
00:45:16,639 --> 00:45:21,880
a second line job available for Fathing, There's a third line job absolutely available

597
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:28,039
for him, but it's just there's
a gap between Okay, can is there

598
00:45:28,039 --> 00:45:31,920
a need for him? Is he
ready? We don't know, so that'll

599
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:37,119
be up to him. So that's
a big unknown. Skill wise, yes,

600
00:45:37,679 --> 00:45:42,519
speed scale it's there, but is
he ready? I would lean toward

601
00:45:42,639 --> 00:45:46,159
no at the start of the season
right now, just because of how last

602
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:52,159
year concluded. He was limited even
in their development camp at the beginning of

603
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,360
July, just because they don't want
to then right wing they don't want to

604
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:59,360
do. They don't want any issues
with head. There's that, So at

605
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:05,400
the beginning of training camp, perhaps
the best solution is to go back second

606
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:12,920
year in American League and get comfortable
there and perhaps dominate, but at least

607
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,639
be an impact player there, which
he was at times, but not for

608
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:22,199
consistent stretches. I would say that
is probably the optimal route for Fabian and

609
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:28,559
then maybe we'll see sometime during the
year it gets called up perfect. Let's

610
00:46:28,559 --> 00:46:31,480
talk about the defense. Of course, we're going to start with Charlie McAvoy

611
00:46:32,119 --> 00:46:37,039
only played sixty seven games, missed
the start of the season, had a

612
00:46:37,039 --> 00:46:40,159
ton of assists forty five of them
with seven goals for sixty four point pace

613
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:45,599
similar to the previous season, which
is a smug better point pace. He's

614
00:46:45,679 --> 00:46:51,880
actually pretty decent for those perpherols too, really excellent value and fantasy interesting though,

615
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,559
his time on ice actually went down
a little bit last season. As

616
00:46:54,679 --> 00:47:00,639
you mentioned, they acquired a whole
lot of defensive support, and of course

617
00:47:00,679 --> 00:47:04,280
they had Orloff. They're running the
power play at times and Lynnholm, so

618
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,880
his power play time went down a
little bit as well. He's the seven

619
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,159
years left on that nine and a
half million dollars contract. He does everything

620
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:15,719
for them. Should we expect another
sixty plus he's in from McAvoy with around

621
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:21,679
twenty power play points. I think
so, just because of who he is.

622
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:27,719
First off, he's so good and
he'll get he'll get us touches and

623
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,079
he'll be fully healthy at the start
of the season, rather than working his

624
00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:37,320
way back from shoulder surgery, and
like Marsham, there were times where okay,

625
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,400
yeah, he did come back a
little bit earlier than expected. It

626
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:45,199
just wasn't he wasn't Charlie for a
good couple of months and that's why you

627
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:51,519
saw the ice time fluctually, which
came at a time when Lindholm was amazing.

628
00:47:52,199 --> 00:47:55,039
He was lyno was dynamic at the
beginning of the season. I think

629
00:47:55,320 --> 00:48:00,800
Hampis took it upon himself to really
emerge without Charlie. They so that's why

630
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:07,079
you saw that. But absolutely Charlie
will be counted upon for guests twenty four

631
00:48:07,199 --> 00:48:13,360
twenty five minutes per game powerplay.
We don't know yet is he is he

632
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,239
going to be the top guy.
I think that's a coin flip right now

633
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:22,519
with went Home of being the quarterback
up top on the first power play,

634
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:27,960
just because he's just not a Car's
just not within himself to be that kind

635
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:32,960
of electric, dynamic offensive power play
presence, which this is who he is.

636
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,320
There's some similarity there with Hampus.
He's not that type of offensive player

637
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:44,079
either. So it's not a guarantee
that Charlie gets that minute and a half

638
00:48:44,679 --> 00:48:49,280
ice time on PP one. That
will have to be settled. I think

639
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,760
that will vary even during the season, depending on how the player is playing.

640
00:48:54,639 --> 00:49:00,440
And there's an issue there with Grizzick
entering his contract year, who knows

641
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:05,079
if there is room for a hockey
trail with Grizzlike at some time, and

642
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,360
Matt maybe he puts himself under a
little bit of pressure knowing that he's up

643
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:14,280
for a new deal. Just because
those two have been so good together for

644
00:49:14,559 --> 00:49:17,639
such a long time, you can
go back to college, so they make

645
00:49:17,679 --> 00:49:23,840
each other better. Charlie's numbers are
absolutely influenced by playing with Grizzlick, So

646
00:49:24,119 --> 00:49:29,760
if there's any kind of issues there
with Grizzlike mentally, that might have an

647
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:37,119
impact on Charlie's game. But as
in isolation, yeah, that's in terms

648
00:49:37,159 --> 00:49:42,119
of points. You should absolutely expect
Charlie to be at a high level just

649
00:49:42,159 --> 00:49:45,199
because all of the quality of player
he is, and he'll have to take

650
00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:50,280
on more responsibility in terms of leadership. I think there's still some more maturing

651
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,039
for Charlie to do in that sense, but I think he'll take that seriously

652
00:49:53,079 --> 00:49:57,480
too, that at his age,
of his point of his career, he's

653
00:49:57,519 --> 00:50:02,960
not they're settled like or David Poshnok
quite yet, but it is game will

654
00:50:04,039 --> 00:50:07,119
rise just because he'll know he's got
to be more of a leader. Without

655
00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:12,440
Patrice, I want to dig into
a couple of those guys you mentioned Hampas

656
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:16,920
Lindholme. First of all, his
first full year in Boston was just excellent.

657
00:50:17,039 --> 00:50:21,800
Second team All Star, fourth and
Norris voting. He had a final

658
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,679
line of ten goals, forty three
assists for fifty three points in eighty games,

659
00:50:25,039 --> 00:50:30,239
two shots, a hit in a
block while skating over twenty three minutes

660
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,360
a night. If you happen to
plus minus, I'm not a plus minus

661
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,199
guy, but if you happen to
like it, plus forty nine led the

662
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,840
NHL for Hampas Lindholme. He started
with fourteen points in the first eleven games,

663
00:50:40,199 --> 00:50:45,760
Like he said, when McAboy came
back, the two sort of interchange

664
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:50,639
some roles there and the scoring remained
steady after that. But obviously it dropped

665
00:50:50,679 --> 00:50:54,280
off after that scorching start to the
year. So yeah, Hampas Lindom,

666
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:59,679
you're saying, there is a chance
he could maintain some of that upper level

667
00:50:59,679 --> 00:51:04,119
power play time. It's so hard
to sort out with a team this good,

668
00:51:04,519 --> 00:51:07,840
who was most critical, who was
making whom better on this team.

669
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,960
But you do have to look at
the replacements, the wowie the with the

670
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:17,480
without you stats and basically every single
defenseman when they were on the ice with

671
00:51:17,559 --> 00:51:22,480
Lindholm got better, and when they
were off the ice, when they weren't

672
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,800
out there with Lyndholm, they weren't
as good. So they've got maciboy locked

673
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:29,519
up for seven years, or he
and mciboy locked up for the next seven

674
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:32,679
years. Do you expect then that
these guys, I guess you already said

675
00:51:32,679 --> 00:51:37,360
that. You expected maybe to go
back and forth. But Lindholme with another

676
00:51:37,519 --> 00:51:40,639
fifty point production year, another maybe
down ballot in Norris season, what is

677
00:51:40,679 --> 00:51:45,719
your expectation for him specifically? Yeah, I think it'll stay the same.

678
00:51:45,159 --> 00:51:49,880
Yeah, he made connerclift and a
good chunk of change with Buffalo just because

679
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,119
Connor was. He played a lot
of time on Hampus at the beginning of

680
00:51:52,119 --> 00:51:57,119
the season without Charlie and Connor was
excellent. So he, yes, he

681
00:51:57,199 --> 00:52:02,280
deserves a tip for that. But
yeah, Hampus also a lot like Charlie

682
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:07,920
in the sense of all situations defenseman
and in the sense that he's just not

683
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:17,320
He's not like a high skinning level
of offensive presence is steady, good first

684
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:22,400
pass, a shoot when necessary,
Mark get up. It gets up a

685
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,679
little bit more often than Charlie in
the rush, So that'll be there.

686
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:30,039
And that will lead two points.
But yeah, just not dynamic, and

687
00:52:30,079 --> 00:52:34,719
that's okay for in terms of team
success. But yeah, I expect I

688
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,239
tigned to be very high twenty four
twenty five minutes. He has a very

689
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:42,039
good thing going on with Brandon Carlo, who will probably be hit his primary

690
00:52:42,079 --> 00:52:47,239
partner. And yes, per play
one, maybe Parer play two, maybe

691
00:52:47,639 --> 00:52:51,519
one or the other. Now they
have a little bit of support now with

692
00:52:51,599 --> 00:52:54,559
Kevin Shattenkirk there too, so there'll
be some options for the coach to play

693
00:52:54,559 --> 00:53:00,239
with there. But yes, you
could absolutely see depending on how hamp is

694
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,199
playing. If he's feeling really good
about himself, then yes he will be

695
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,719
that top power play point guy.
And then he was I think he'd be

696
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:14,639
very motivated because he was terrible in
the playoffs, terrible compared to the level

697
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,920
that he was at during the regular
season. Now, some of that is

698
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,719
because of injury. He turned out
and he didn't know Bruce did though he's

699
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:24,320
playing with the patric foot, and
it was just it was clear that something

700
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:29,920
was just not right with Hampus,
just because he had dropped off so dramatically

701
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,679
from where he was in the regular
season to Round one against Florida so I

702
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:38,360
think he'll be quite anxious to prove
that he is way better than he was

703
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,840
in the playoffs, So I think
that will have an impact on his performance.

704
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:47,400
And again, second full season in
Boston, there's comfort there and he's

705
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:52,320
the type of he's a pretty confident
guy and thinks highly of himself, so

706
00:53:52,599 --> 00:53:58,159
he I think he's the type of
player that will understand and I think he's

707
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:05,039
eager to be part of that next
waves beyond the Patrise generation, so he'll

708
00:54:05,039 --> 00:54:08,639
take that seriously. And at his
age, I think there's still a couple

709
00:54:08,639 --> 00:54:15,000
of years where he should be at
high peak threshold. So wherever he was

710
00:54:15,039 --> 00:54:17,960
out last year, I think he'll
be there again and the Bruins need him

711
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:22,880
to be and maybe even beyond.
And yeah, high expectations for Hampus.

712
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:28,880
Two other defenseman. We can do
a quick hit on Matt Grizzlock, Kevin

713
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,639
Schatton, Kirk boy two things you
said about grizzlike really caught my attention.

714
00:54:31,679 --> 00:54:36,679
I guess I'm not watching enough Bruins
broadcast because I didn't realize that business about

715
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:42,239
Grizzlick and McAvoy being long term teammates. Grizzlick played seventy five games last year,

716
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,440
but he was only sixth in average
tim and ice among defenseman on this

717
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,119
team. He didn't have a long
minute role every game. Even if he

718
00:54:49,159 --> 00:54:52,400
had a significant role. He was
actually seventh of account Demitrio law in his

719
00:54:52,639 --> 00:54:57,360
average timan ice when he was with
the Bruins, twenty six points, far

720
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,559
back from the team's top scores,
although he was third among the defenceman.

721
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,320
This log gam of defenseman is clearing
out again, so there would be room,

722
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,800
presumably for him to move up the
charts. And Kevin Shatton Kirk since

723
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:12,000
COVID he has been in Anaheim and
now he moves on to his seventh team

724
00:55:12,079 --> 00:55:15,199
in fourteenth year of his career.
Last year he pretty much scored once every

725
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:19,239
three games and it doesn't get a
lot of shots, blocks and hits,

726
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,119
a lot of bash. I would
say this Fluto, I don't know if

727
00:55:22,159 --> 00:55:24,840
you played that immaculate grid game that
is caught on is sweeping the nation right

728
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:29,039
now where you have to pick Okay, he's a great he's a great player

729
00:55:29,079 --> 00:55:30,840
for that because you have to get
guys who play on multiple teams, and

730
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:36,639
Shatton Kirk has played on every combination
of teams in the nation. So anyway,

731
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,239
these two guys, who do you
think is going to have the more

732
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:43,719
significant role with the Bruins this year? I would say Grizzlick just because of

733
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,559
past history and because of who he
is as a defenseman. He's a league

734
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:52,559
in terms of Okay, that's a
heavy word to send out, but look

735
00:55:52,599 --> 00:55:59,000
at the numbers. Nothing gets through
the guide defensively, shot suppression, expected

736
00:55:59,079 --> 00:56:01,519
goals. Again, the numbers are
just tremendous. Now, part of that

737
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:07,719
is just because he's playing m Charlie
McAvoy, but Grizzlies initiates a lot of

738
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,360
that himself with his footspeed, his
smarts, stick, it's all there.

739
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:15,599
But I and then you look at
last year he was at full strength.

740
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:21,159
He was the odd man out on
defense just because in the playoffs there's always

741
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:28,000
been an issue because of the size. So they acquired or loved primarily for

742
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,960
the reason that Dmitri was going to
be they do everything left shot defenseman for

743
00:56:32,119 --> 00:56:36,559
them in the playoffs, and that
it would allow them to put Grizzly in

744
00:56:36,639 --> 00:56:39,559
the press box, which they did
for part of it. So that's why

745
00:56:39,679 --> 00:56:45,719
I thought during this past off season
that Grizzlic would be one of their defenseman

746
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:51,400
that would be up for a trade
just because a I think other teams see

747
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,880
value in him and be contract a
year and not necessarily going to be brought

748
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,960
back. And there's always that issue
the playoffs where and you can look at

749
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:06,079
the numbers, they do drop off
every time, just because it gets harder

750
00:57:06,159 --> 00:57:10,119
for Matt at his size to be
able to withstand seven straight games of that

751
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:16,159
for check against whoever. But this
being contract year, you can say he

752
00:57:16,719 --> 00:57:23,719
will be anxious to prove that he's
playing for possibly his final multi year deal.

753
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:30,079
Now, having known Matt a little
bit, I think he's the type

754
00:57:30,119 --> 00:57:35,079
of person that will stress about that. He's not like you take a guy

755
00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:37,960
like Charlie mcawy. He doesn't worry
about anything they possible. Yeah, I'll

756
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:42,400
go into my contract year. Fine, I don't have an extension. I'm

757
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,719
okay, it's going to work out. I don't think Matt is wired that

758
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:50,760
way. I think he will be
a little bit anxious about the fact that

759
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:54,280
he doesn't have a deal and it
might not come with Boston. Who knows

760
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:58,119
if there's a future here. Even
if he is a local guy and he

761
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,679
served them well, he's been a
really good. I think that will weigh

762
00:58:00,719 --> 00:58:05,519
on him. So will that affect
his production? I think so. That

763
00:58:05,679 --> 00:58:09,039
might offset the fact that he's motivated
to play for his next deal. And

764
00:58:09,599 --> 00:58:15,199
perhaps there's some kind of opportunity for
a hockey trade, maybe even the off

765
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:21,440
season or during the season for Matt
just because he makes about roughly three and

766
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,599
a half million, that's still a
decent number for a team to take on.

767
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:29,079
Maybe there's some way to figure out
a center trade if one as possible.

768
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:34,519
I think there's some possibilities there,
So that's Yeah, there's some variables

769
00:58:34,559 --> 00:58:38,079
there that will be that are not
that we're not in play for Matt in

770
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:43,440
previous years of his career. But
in terms of individual player, he'll play.

771
00:58:43,679 --> 00:58:46,519
Assumings everything is green light. He'll
play a big role in terms of

772
00:58:46,559 --> 00:58:52,679
five on five with Charlie mcboy that
will help his numbers. But no,

773
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,840
not a powerplay guy doesn't kill penalties, so he's limited in terms of his

774
00:58:57,039 --> 00:59:02,039
usage. Shattenkirk. They're a pair
of right shot guy after mclvoy and Carlo

775
00:59:02,559 --> 00:59:08,679
the complimentary second unit powerplay. If
they want to use two DS at say

776
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:13,280
there's thirty seconds left in the power
play, yeah, he'll go out there

777
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,079
and say with hampus and then finish
up a power play. So maybe there's

778
00:59:16,119 --> 00:59:21,239
some points there for him. And
yes, he is a semi local and

779
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:25,440
to be you Connecticut, New England
guy, So there's that kind of I'm

780
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:31,320
sure he'll be excited to be in
the area. But yeah, at his

781
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:38,400
stage of his career, how much
is left there? Probably not as much

782
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:43,719
as there was, say even in
Anaheim or New York or Tampa where he

783
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,639
won. He'll be an important I
would compare it to say, like a

784
00:59:46,719 --> 00:59:52,440
Fellino type of presence in the past
years of leadership. He'll be right there

785
00:59:52,599 --> 00:59:55,960
in terms of commanding the room.
How does that might impact his production in

786
00:59:57,119 --> 01:00:04,000
terms of expecting a lot of himself. But yeah, of course give him

787
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,480
the skill set, offensive guy that
will lead to points, good first pass,

788
01:00:07,599 --> 01:00:10,719
all that get up, will be
willing to shoot from the point.

789
01:00:12,199 --> 01:00:16,679
But I don't know how much juice
is left. All right, great rundown

790
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:21,719
on the defenseman. We'll switch over
now to the goalies that you alluded to

791
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,880
at the beginning of the show.
The Bruins gave up the fifth ranked expected

792
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:31,679
goals against per sixty according to Evolving
Hockey at five they conceded the fewest actually

793
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:37,920
in the NHL, and Lina's Olmark
the Vesner Trophy winner. I'm sure he

794
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,920
would like to forget the playoff performance
he had. I know Bruins fans would

795
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,840
It didn't go as well in the
playoffs, but in fantasy, we only

796
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:49,159
care about the regular season, and
he was incredible. Twenty five and a

797
01:00:49,239 --> 01:00:53,000
half goals save above expected one point
six eight Delta Fenwick. That was the

798
01:00:53,039 --> 01:00:58,639
best mark for goalies over five hundred
minutes, just barely beating Sirokan and teammate

799
01:00:58,719 --> 01:01:02,639
Jeremy Swayman his record forty six and
one with the one eighth GA. These

800
01:01:02,719 --> 01:01:07,960
numbers are just ridiculous. Two years
left at five million for Omark, it's

801
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:13,320
really incredible stuff. As we've been
talking about, the team probably isn't going

802
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,519
to be quite as good as last
season, so might we see some regression

803
01:01:15,599 --> 01:01:21,000
from Omark and potentially fewer starts as
he shares the net a little bit more?

804
01:01:21,039 --> 01:01:22,519
With Swayman, What do we think
about Olmark this year? It's a

805
01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:27,880
little yeah. I think you have
to expect some kind of slippage just because

806
01:01:28,679 --> 01:01:35,800
a okay, I remember their goalie
coach Bob lessons As saying he believed in

807
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,400
Lanison, thought that this type of
season was within him. But it's just

808
01:01:39,559 --> 01:01:44,719
relatively it came out of nowhere.
You look at historically where he was his

809
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:49,639
first year in Boston, Okay,
there's transition, but never really any indications

810
01:01:49,679 --> 01:01:52,239
of it in Buffalo. So where
did this all come from? Okay,

811
01:01:52,440 --> 01:02:00,800
that's part performance, individual growth,
technical improvements, more comfort being in Boston,

812
01:02:01,639 --> 01:02:07,159
families happy, It all comes together. But yeah, you have to

813
01:02:07,239 --> 01:02:13,880
expect that team performance was part of
that equation too. And if that assuming,

814
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,559
you have to assume that kind of
regression team wide, you have to

815
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:23,199
just incorporate some kind of regression into
Lenas. I don't expect it to be

816
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:29,679
major just because I think you could
just okay, based on the eye test,

817
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:35,360
you could isolate on him and say
they're really you can't think of that

818
01:02:35,599 --> 01:02:39,360
many bad games. You can't even
think of that many bad holes that he

819
01:02:39,519 --> 01:02:44,280
let up last year. And yes, okay, maybe you can point to

820
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,920
the numbers and say, Okay,
the team is really good about not giving

821
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:52,679
up that many high danger opportunities.
But a lot of that was on Linas

822
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:59,679
himself to be really good in those
situations. Yes, I expect some kind

823
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,840
of regression, and yes, I
expect Swimon to take on a little bit

824
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:10,119
more, but the workload was relatively
even these last two years. Yes,

825
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:15,119
Jeremy will be better just given career
growth and where he is of his age

826
01:03:15,119 --> 01:03:22,000
and of his career, but especially
given how the playoffs went and how hugely

827
01:03:22,159 --> 01:03:25,880
they missed it. In terms of
not extending the rotation, I think they'll

828
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:34,119
be really the coaching staff will be
really careful about just being straight rotations,

829
01:03:34,159 --> 01:03:37,760
just because it worked so well for
them last year and it blew up so

830
01:03:38,039 --> 01:03:42,480
majorly for them in the playoffs that
why not go back to what worked for

831
01:03:42,559 --> 01:03:47,239
them? So if they're fifty to
fifty I wouldn't be surprised, and I

832
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:52,559
think that benefits both. And Lenas
will be fun and he's older and he

833
01:03:52,639 --> 01:03:55,760
didn't want it to say what was
wrong and physically during the playoffs, but

834
01:03:55,800 --> 01:04:00,320
there was clearly something wrong with them, So can he get back to full

835
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,360
health. I assume so. But
going fifty to fifty eight I will only

836
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:09,519
mean good things for Leness's durability.
So I think we can count on the

837
01:04:09,599 --> 01:04:15,760
fact that the workload will be shared
barring injury, And I think we can

838
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:19,119
count on some kind of progression just
because it's just not realistic for that kind

839
01:04:19,159 --> 01:04:25,760
of season to happen again. But
I don't I just don't see it being

840
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:30,000
major, just because of how good
he was, how good he was to

841
01:04:30,079 --> 01:04:32,400
the eye, to the numbers.
Yes, the team's not going to be

842
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:36,800
as good around Leiness, but so
much of it was on him, and

843
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:42,159
he made so many improvements technically that
I don't expect those to be lessoned.

844
01:04:42,559 --> 01:04:45,039
So he's a real student of the
game that way, leaness in terms of

845
01:04:45,159 --> 01:04:50,960
his technicality, his equipment, everything
comes together is comfortable. I think it'd

846
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:58,559
be really good again, really good, Fluto. Everybody already knows they need

847
01:04:58,639 --> 01:05:00,320
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848
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,880
But why don't you let people know
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849
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:08,199
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855
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to the Athletic. Thanks so much
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856
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:44,880
those Bruins this year. My pleasure, guys, time to talk Boston Brewing

857
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:48,559
goalies and we got Kat Silverman here
from En goldmag Get to hear your instincts

858
01:05:48,599 --> 01:05:54,840
on these goalies. We're gonna start
with Brandon Boosey, undrafted six ft five,

859
01:05:55,079 --> 01:05:59,679
twenty five year old. Seems like
he's really risen in their pipeline and

860
01:06:00,079 --> 01:06:02,480
he was the main goalie in Providence
last year of the HL and did quite

861
01:06:02,559 --> 01:06:06,880
well. So his hockey prospecting,
although it has trended down a little bit,

862
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:11,360
but he's looking. There's a couple
of comps of guys that have busted

863
01:06:11,559 --> 01:06:15,840
some Alex staylock in there. But
the results on the ice seemed to be

864
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,000
pretty good at the moment. So
what can you tell us about Brandon Boosey?

865
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:26,920
When they signed him, I thought
it was a massive mistake. I

866
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,599
will be perfectly honest with you.
I did not understand I had. I'd

867
01:06:30,599 --> 01:06:35,159
always been lukewarm on Daniel Bladar.
I thought that they'd only drafted him because

868
01:06:35,199 --> 01:06:40,639
he was big, and they had
Kyle Keiser in their system, they had

869
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:43,920
Jeremy Swiman in their system. I
was like, they do not need this

870
01:06:44,079 --> 01:06:47,519
big guy whose technique is all over
the place. And they got rid of

871
01:06:47,599 --> 01:06:50,639
Daniel Bladar and I was like,
yes, they've moved away from size being

872
01:06:50,719 --> 01:06:55,360
everything. And they signed Brandon Bussy, who was six foot five and two

873
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,760
hundred and nine pounds, and I
was like, Ah, they're running it

874
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:03,719
back. We're doing it again.
I think he's better than I gave him

875
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:11,119
credit for. He's not fast from
a technical standpoint. He doesn't have a

876
01:07:11,239 --> 01:07:15,280
ton of agility to his game,
but he refuses to get chased, and

877
01:07:16,559 --> 01:07:21,880
I respect that. A lot of
bigger goaltenders who lack the speed to really

878
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:27,760
become like a Darcy Kemper, really
lack the speed and quick movements to move

879
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:32,679
cross ice without having to retreat as
far get themselves chase, and they end

880
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:36,760
up sitting a little too deep in
their net. And Bessie doesn't really do

881
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:40,719
that. He stays out where he's
supposed to be, stays pretty patient.

882
01:07:41,039 --> 01:07:43,639
I think his read of the game
is better than i'd given him credit for

883
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:48,159
I do think that the Providence Bruins
are probably one of the best teams for

884
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:53,800
a goaltender to go to. From
a development standpoint, I think they churn

885
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,679
out hits every year. They're like, now, that's what I call music

886
01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:00,000
CD. They had. They even
had Jordan Bennington and their system the year

887
01:08:00,119 --> 01:08:08,360
before he went to the NHL.
So his numbers are partially I think a

888
01:08:08,519 --> 01:08:13,360
product of having a Bob as sensa
overseen system. He has a really heavy

889
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:18,439
hand in all of their goaltending from
the NHL level down to the ECHL level,

890
01:08:19,159 --> 01:08:23,000
and it shows in how their players
developed. But I also think they're

891
01:08:23,159 --> 01:08:27,359
good HL team, so some of
his numbers might just be because he was

892
01:08:27,399 --> 01:08:32,640
playing behind a good defense. I
think if he remains consistent with his numbers,

893
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,960
he could be a decent option as
that third guy for them. But

894
01:08:38,279 --> 01:08:41,920
at the moment, they don't really
need it, just because they have Lena

895
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:48,159
Solmark and Jeremy Swiman, and that's
a lot of talent that's in the prime

896
01:08:48,319 --> 01:08:53,000
age of their careers, so I
don't think they necessarily need to have that

897
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:59,319
fear cut air apparent at the moment. I think Brandon Bussi is a perfectly

898
01:08:59,399 --> 01:09:02,399
fine third to have in the system, especially since they do also have a

899
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:08,159
couple other guys in the system that
are perfectly acceptable to call up. And

900
01:09:09,399 --> 01:09:14,039
really they have a nice, strong
system. And he's not wowing me by

901
01:09:14,119 --> 01:09:16,640
any stretch. But he's not doing
as poorly as I thought he would just

902
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:21,920
based on how he played in the
juniors. Nice. I've heard some rumblings

903
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:28,920
that Boston is considering moving one of
their NHL goalie, so I don't know,

904
01:09:29,039 --> 01:09:31,640
it seems like that's not such a
glowing endorsement that they feel confident in

905
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:38,239
Blucy to step in. Maybe they
their hand is their hand is forced by

906
01:09:38,239 --> 01:09:43,159
the cap a little bit and whatever
Jeremy Swimon is negotiating. So does that

907
01:09:43,319 --> 01:09:45,840
change the decision for you at all? Or is it just kinda like he

908
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:49,199
could fill in but not really I
think you could fill in. I think

909
01:09:50,399 --> 01:09:54,720
I mean that to get off on
the mini tange and there. I think

910
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:58,279
that's part of why they traded Taylor
Hall was that they didn't have to trade

911
01:09:58,359 --> 01:10:02,239
one of their two goaltenders. I
think that if they were truly looking to

912
01:10:02,359 --> 01:10:08,159
move one of them, they're enough
teams out there that are a goaltending desert

913
01:10:08,279 --> 01:10:13,079
right now. They're starved for a
single save in a game. They're like,

914
01:10:13,199 --> 01:10:16,079
please save anything that. They probably
could have gotten a pretty good price

915
01:10:16,199 --> 01:10:20,079
for one of their goalies, and
instead they traded two of their forwards,

916
01:10:20,199 --> 01:10:27,000
so I think they're probably gonna end
up holding onto them. But if they

917
01:10:27,159 --> 01:10:32,039
do need to move one of them. I don't know if Brandon Bosse's ready

918
01:10:32,119 --> 01:10:36,920
to go up to the NHL,
but he could surprise me. He's honestly,

919
01:10:38,039 --> 01:10:41,640
he's got that mister cool and collected
vibe when he's out on the ice,

920
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:45,039
where even if I'm nervous watching him
play, he doesn't look like he

921
01:10:45,279 --> 01:10:47,279
is. So I think if he
did get called up to the NHL,

922
01:10:47,319 --> 01:10:49,720
he'd be like, awesome, I'm
ready, and I'd be like all right.

923
01:10:50,119 --> 01:10:54,000
He'd roll with it, and he
might get lit up one or two

924
01:10:54,079 --> 01:10:57,800
times. But he does bounce back
from bad goals really well, which I

925
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:02,479
think is something that sometimes some of
those bigger goaltenders don't necessarily do. They

926
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:05,520
allow one bad one and then they
spend the rest of the game sitting on

927
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:11,000
the goal line just like refusing to
move. And he stays really consistent with

928
01:11:11,079 --> 01:11:15,039
his game after that, so who
could get called up. I think he'd

929
01:11:15,079 --> 01:11:16,640
survived. I don't know if he'd
thrive, but he'd survived for sure.

930
01:11:18,199 --> 01:11:21,319
All Right, Well, the next
guy we're going to talk about Mike Dpro.

931
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:25,520
I used to be really high on
Dpro. He's a little undersized at

932
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:29,399
six foot, pretty athletic guy from
what I remember and what I've seen.

933
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,960
But he's now twenty four and spent
most of this season in the ECHL for

934
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:38,199
the Bruins affiliate, and his equivalency
has really trended down since his OHL time

935
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:42,680
and a reasonably strong first season in
the HL. He also had some injury

936
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:46,680
troubles, so at this point he's
not looking like more than a backup at

937
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:50,000
best. But what do you think
about Dphro? Is it time to cut

938
01:11:50,079 --> 01:11:57,039
bait on him? What do your
instincts tell you can't? Honestly, so,

939
01:11:57,239 --> 01:11:59,720
I was really high on him for
a while. I thought that he

940
01:11:59,920 --> 01:12:05,279
was despite being undersized. I think
he's listed at six feet two one,

941
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:10,840
and usually when a goaltenders listed at
six feet that's like the catch off for

942
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:14,880
everyone who's between five foot eight and
six foot one. I think he did

943
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:21,640
a really good job of remaining technically
sound, but Vancouver, that's such a

944
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:28,279
hard system to develop in, and
we've seen a couple guys within that system

945
01:12:28,399 --> 01:12:31,520
just really struggle with getting called up
too early. I think that was a

946
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:35,960
big issue for him. He got
called up to the NHL when the team

947
01:12:36,119 --> 01:12:42,520
was I think it was like right
in the throes of their biggest freefall two

948
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:46,600
years ago, where they were just
like openly nosediving, and they called him

949
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,600
up and threw him out there in
his first NHL game against the team that

950
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:55,119
he really shouldn't have played his first
NHL game against, and he got understandably

951
01:12:55,159 --> 01:12:57,880
lit up, and they chased him
back to the HL and then brought him

952
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,159
back up again, ill equipped,
and threw him back out against another hard

953
01:13:00,199 --> 01:13:03,439
team and a head to head like
I think it was in a back to

954
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:09,920
back on the road or something crazy
like that. They really didn't set him

955
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:13,239
up for success there, And when
he moved out of the system, I

956
01:13:13,319 --> 01:13:16,560
thought, great, that's an awesome
fresh start for him, and he got

957
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:20,920
moved into a system that had a
lot of really good goaltending talent already in

958
01:13:21,039 --> 01:13:26,039
it. Worst case, I am
a little worried that he'll be like another

959
01:13:26,159 --> 01:13:30,000
Connects prospect to Michael Gartigue, who
had really good numbers in the minors but

960
01:13:30,199 --> 01:13:34,720
was never really given a full opportunity
to play, ended up in the Toronto

961
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:41,079
system, played for their ECHL team, ended up winning them the ECHL Championship,

962
01:13:41,359 --> 01:13:47,319
and then realized that he could get
more consistent career. Essentially, he

963
01:13:47,359 --> 01:13:50,560
could stay with the same team for
a while, playing overseas and played in

964
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:56,279
Germany and he's still there doing incredibly
well as a starter. And that's something

965
01:13:56,359 --> 01:14:00,680
that I think ultimately, if he's
not able to move up in a system,

966
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:04,039
Michael Gartique could end up or not
Michael Gartique, Dpietro could end up

967
01:14:04,079 --> 01:14:08,159
doing as well. I do think
a lot of that's going to come down

968
01:14:08,239 --> 01:14:13,199
to what happens this year for the
Bruins, if he gets to move up

969
01:14:13,239 --> 01:14:15,840
to the HL, because his numbers
looked good last year. He had decent

970
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:19,960
numbers in the ECHL, had one
game in the HL, had a nine

971
01:14:20,079 --> 01:14:25,039
forty three save percentage. Like I
said, the Providence Bruins are the Providence

972
01:14:25,079 --> 01:14:29,560
Bruins are an easy team to do
that with. But nonetheless I still think

973
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:35,920
that was good for him, essentially
showcasing that he can still play at the

974
01:14:36,079 --> 01:14:42,479
higher minor league level. If he
doesn't get consistent HL starting time this year,

975
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:47,800
I think it's worth considering that he's
not really classified as a true NHL

976
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:53,119
prospect anymore and he might just be
a minor league guy moving forward. But

977
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:58,439
I'm looking to see they do still
have Kyle Keyser or Kyle Keyser in their

978
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:06,000
system as well, and I think
that Michael DiPietro if Kaiser ends up not

979
01:15:06,159 --> 01:15:10,840
playing as well again, he had
mediocre numbers last year and he's had,

980
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:14,279
I believe, a couple concussions.
That's a spot that d Pietro could step

981
01:15:14,319 --> 01:15:18,399
into and really essentially sneak his way
back into contention as a prospect because he

982
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:24,239
has another couple of years before I
think it becomes a red flag for him,

983
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:28,760
and he asked to consider a different
path versus potentially heading to the NHL.

984
01:15:30,159 --> 01:15:33,640
Yeah, I was actually watching that
game that your reference from Dpietro where

985
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:38,000
it was against the Sharks, and
I remember he got called up, and

986
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:43,279
I remember watching that game and just
he was getting destroyed and the Canucks weren't

987
01:15:43,319 --> 01:15:45,239
helping him and the Sharks were just
lighting him up. And I just remember

988
01:15:45,399 --> 01:15:50,720
thinking, I'm literally watching the demise
of this guy's confidence and potentially career.

989
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:56,640
It felt terrible because it wasn't Yeah, maybe he made some mistakes, but

990
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,319
there was a lot that was not
in. It was so hard to watch,

991
01:16:00,119 --> 01:16:01,039
hard to watch, and they didn't
take him out, and it was

992
01:16:01,199 --> 01:16:03,760
like, oh God, please,
though I don't think they could take him

993
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:08,920
out if I remember correctly that game
thatcher Demko was out with the concussion and

994
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:13,680
whoever their backup was had played the
night before they needed him to play the

995
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:17,239
next night, so they couldn't take
out d Pietro. And in Syrie they

996
01:16:17,279 --> 01:16:21,439
probably should have regardless, like they
should have pulled him out anyway, but

997
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:27,920
they didn't. And it made me
think back to when the Blackhawks were so

998
01:16:28,239 --> 01:16:33,079
bad and they had Colin Delia and
Anton Forsberg and then they called out Jeff

999
01:16:33,119 --> 01:16:39,399
Glass and in his first NHL game, the Blackhawks were such a bad team

1000
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:43,079
and they almost played like chelseafc.
They parked the bus in front of him

1001
01:16:43,119 --> 01:16:45,239
and they said, we won't score
a goal, but you won't get scored

1002
01:16:45,279 --> 01:16:50,800
on either, And that was just
such a stark difference from what Dpietro's first

1003
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:56,279
NHL game looked like, where they
conducts their defense wasn't. It almost didn't

1004
01:16:56,279 --> 01:17:00,039
even show up. So yeah,
I think there was some unlearning there in

1005
01:17:00,199 --> 01:17:03,720
his first year within the Boston system
that he had to do, and there

1006
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:09,880
was some confidence building that had to
be redone. Almost his best case scenario

1007
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:15,199
is Jack Campbell, Right, that's
a guy who really had his confidence just

1008
01:17:15,359 --> 01:17:18,640
decimated there, went to the Kings, had a team that was really patient

1009
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:24,439
with him in rebuilding his confidence over
almost a year and a half there,

1010
01:17:25,039 --> 01:17:28,439
and then brought him back to the
NHL level and he got himself back into

1011
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:31,520
starter contentions. So I think we
could see that from Dptro. I think

1012
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:35,960
he's at a disadvantage because he's six
feet tall and teams are less likely to

1013
01:17:36,039 --> 01:17:41,279
give a smaller guy who's struggling a
second and third and fourth chance like they

1014
01:17:41,359 --> 01:17:46,600
do some of the bigger goaltenders.
Absolutely, And you mentioned Kyle Kaiser.

1015
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:51,039
One of our patrons wanted to know
about him because there had been some rumblings

1016
01:17:51,039 --> 01:17:56,199
about him having some upside last year
and he couldn't find as much information about

1017
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:59,920
him this year. He's a twenty
four year old unsigned, six ft two

1018
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:04,239
goalie comes from the hockey hotbed of
Coral Springs, Florida case anyone's wondering,

1019
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:09,159
played a lot for the for the
Providence Bruins the last two seasons. As

1020
01:18:09,199 --> 01:18:12,760
we mentioned, dpro not able to
play for the Providence Bruins, so he

1021
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:16,319
was in ECHL and one of the
main guys in the HL was Kyle Kaiser.

1022
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:20,840
So what do your instincts tell us
about him? Initially I really liked

1023
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:26,399
him. He and Jeremy Swayman entered
the Bruins system at the same time.

1024
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:30,640
I remember watching a ton of film
on both of them and thinking that they

1025
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:35,119
were to me, they were equivalents
where I watched them next to each other

1026
01:18:35,199 --> 01:18:40,800
and thought, oh, either one
of these guys could ultimately end up becoming

1027
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:45,439
their next air apparent and then I'm
looking to double check. But if I

1028
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:57,000
remember correctly, Kyle Kaiser ended up
with a number of injury issues that essentially

1029
01:18:57,119 --> 01:19:00,760
set him back a ton where he
didn't get as much playing time as he

1030
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:05,560
needed, and then he ended up
down in the ECHL for a little bit,

1031
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:10,279
and then he didn't get to play. I believe it was at all

1032
01:19:10,359 --> 01:19:14,000
one season. I think he I'm
looking to see, Yeah, he had

1033
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:18,920
one season where he played seven games
combined. Then really That's where I wonder

1034
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:27,000
if maybe he just isn't what he
could have been, because I watched a

1035
01:19:27,199 --> 01:19:30,000
few of their games last year and
I didn't think he was a goaltender that

1036
01:19:30,079 --> 01:19:32,800
I was in love with anymore.
But I don't think the Bruins really have

1037
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:36,399
anyone in their system that I look
at and think, oh, this guy

1038
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:40,920
shouldn't be playing right now. I
think everyone that they had, even at

1039
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:45,279
the ECHL level, they had.
The starters in the ECHL were d Pietro

1040
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:53,319
and then Francis Brossard, who I
believe was initially a senator's prospect and then

1041
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:58,319
quit playing hockey for a while and
came back to playing the ECHL, and

1042
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:03,840
he's a lot fun to watch too. So they really just they keep guys

1043
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:10,800
that I think help keep their team
in every game. There are a couple

1044
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:15,640
of teams, most notably the Rochester
Americans are the easiest one that comes to

1045
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:21,239
mind for me that their goaltenders are
sometimes hurting their chances of winning. But

1046
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:28,560
for both Maine and the Providence Ruins, I think those teams the goaltenders always

1047
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,079
help their chance of winning, So
I think any one of their guys could

1048
01:20:31,119 --> 01:20:35,439
get called up and survive in an
NHL game. But I just don't know

1049
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:44,600
if anyone right now stands out as
being a clear cut number one in that

1050
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:48,359
list, which honestly, I don't
think they needed. They have too much

1051
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,680
number one at the NHL level as
it is, so I think that would

1052
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:56,399
cause the problems they had another clear
pet number one down in the HL.

1053
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:01,279
Too many number ones in the NHL
get stuck with fifth and six options down

1054
01:21:01,359 --> 01:21:04,720
in the minors. Thank you for
giving us your instincts. Cat on the

1055
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:30,000
Boston Bruins goalies, Grace, we'll
be back right after this dynasty dig.

1056
01:21:30,279 --> 01:21:33,920
Boston Bruins. The dynasty dig.
That's good. It's not quite what we're

1057
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:38,319
gonna see from some of the other
teams because these guys are in that point

1058
01:21:38,359 --> 01:21:42,239
of the success cycle where they're killing
it. So the system, according to

1059
01:21:42,319 --> 01:21:46,880
Victor's Fantasy Hockey Life rankings, ranks
twenty eighth among the teams. The bruins

1060
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:51,279
big moves this year meant they didn't
draft until pick ninety two, which did

1061
01:21:51,359 --> 01:21:58,479
not necessarily bolster they're already rather weakened
farm system. Nonetheless, there are a

1062
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:02,239
couple of very prominent and prospects talked
about here and it starts Victor with your

1063
01:22:02,319 --> 01:22:05,760
no brainer. Who is it?
He's such a no brainer. We already

1064
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:09,199
mentioned him on the main part of
the show, and that is Fabian Lee

1065
01:22:09,279 --> 01:22:13,159
Sell, Boston's twenty twenty one first
round pick, twenty first overall, one

1066
01:22:13,199 --> 01:22:16,479
of the very few first round picks
they've had in recent memory. He's a

1067
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:20,239
five eleven hundred and seventy six pound
right wing, has some injury troubles,

1068
01:22:20,359 --> 01:22:25,800
as Fluto mentioned, came into dev
camp but still suffering the effects of a

1069
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:29,359
concussion which really limited him in terms
of what he could do. That was

1070
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:32,680
from the WHL playoffs previously. He
ended up with fourteen goals twenty three assists

1071
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:36,640
in fifty four games for HL Providence, which was pretty good, and he

1072
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:41,840
went to the World Juniors competed for
Sweden. I'll have more to say on

1073
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:44,960
that in a minute. He should
compete for a spot for the Bruins this

1074
01:22:45,079 --> 01:22:47,439
year. As we mentioned with Fluto, he has a lot of opportunity,

1075
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:50,279
and I think this is one reason
that if you're in a shallow keeper or

1076
01:22:50,359 --> 01:22:55,319
dynasty, you want to gravely Sell
because the door is wide open. He

1077
01:22:55,399 --> 01:23:00,920
could end up playing opposite David posterdock
and that'd be pretty amazing anyways, or

1078
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:04,279
potentially even getting on that top power
play. He should. He still has

1079
01:23:04,319 --> 01:23:09,880
three years left on his entry level
deal, so he's in a cap league.

1080
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,760
He's also really great, And I
want to get back to this point

1081
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:15,039
about the World Junior being a bust
for him. A lot of people were

1082
01:23:15,079 --> 01:23:18,680
talking about that, about how he
even flew too mentioned it. He didn't

1083
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:21,640
really have it. He didn't look
good. I would disagree with that.

1084
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:25,399
I didn't want to discrew with him
on the main show, but I would

1085
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:30,359
say that isn't necessarily entirely accurate,
because he actually if you look, if

1086
01:23:30,359 --> 01:23:32,279
you watched the games, he looked
really good. He was creating chances.

1087
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:36,600
Things did not go in. The
whole team as a whole, did not

1088
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:41,199
look in sync for a part of
the time. And yeah, he took

1089
01:23:41,239 --> 01:23:45,399
a bad penalty and got kicked out, I believe in one of the games.

1090
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:49,319
But if you look at his underlying
stats, and Mitch Brown actually tracked

1091
01:23:49,319 --> 01:23:55,439
a bunch of these, and the
thing is he looked amazing in these underlying

1092
01:23:55,560 --> 01:24:00,239
numbers. He had some of the
best, most dangerous passes to the lot

1093
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:04,800
expected primary systs, expected goals,
his transition data. This is specifically at

1094
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:09,960
the World Junior for Fabian Lacel was
incredible. He was moving the puck around,

1095
01:24:10,039 --> 01:24:14,520
he was driving play, he was
kind of everything for Sweden. Nothing

1096
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:16,239
went in while he was on the
ice, basically, is what it comes

1097
01:24:16,279 --> 01:24:18,479
down to. Does that mean that
he was bad? No? Does that

1098
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:23,439
mean he could have been better?
Possibly, but the reality is that he

1099
01:24:24,279 --> 01:24:27,880
was way better than a lot of
his peers and a ton of these metrics,

1100
01:24:28,359 --> 01:24:33,199
but even things like advantages created game
score board battles, like all these

1101
01:24:33,279 --> 01:24:39,479
things he was really good at.
So I think it's a little it's a

1102
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,840
little inaccurate to say that he wasn't
good or didn't have it. I think

1103
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:45,600
he could have been better than I
think he made some bad decisions that kind

1104
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:50,119
of overshadowed the rest of his performance. And it's a small sample size seven

1105
01:24:50,239 --> 01:24:55,479
games, so it's hard to say
that really reflects a whole ton on him.

1106
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:59,800
But anyways, we have more to
say about Fabian Lacel, and that

1107
01:25:00,399 --> 01:25:04,640
comes from our scouts Jesse, absolutely, and it's our good buddy Nate who

1108
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:09,600
does the scouting for all the guys
in this episode, has been our content

1109
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:13,000
curator back behind the scenes, and
we thank you for all that. A

1110
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:18,680
few highlights from a very extensive scouting
report from Nate Skating for mister Lazelle above

1111
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:23,119
average. A pleasure to watch when
he turns up the ice, great two

1112
01:25:23,199 --> 01:25:27,359
step quickness and straight line speed.
Might need a little bit more strength to

1113
01:25:27,399 --> 01:25:30,640
go up against the bigger defenseman in
the NHL, as even in the HL,

1114
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:34,600
tends to stick around the perimeter and
avoid contact a bit. Puck handling

1115
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:39,239
also above average. Has the puck
on his string most times in the offensive

1116
01:25:39,359 --> 01:25:43,239
zone, keeping the puck tight to
his body to hold off defenders, and

1117
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:45,640
he does run into trouble, sometimes
forcing pucks in the middle of the ice

1118
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:49,359
which gets broken up by pro defenseman. But as the smarts to adjust.

1119
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:54,079
Shot is average, He's probably never
going to be a big goal scorer.

1120
01:25:54,159 --> 01:25:57,840
Won't blow you away with the shot, but again, this is something that

1121
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:01,680
could benefit from putting on some ranked
and muscle to adjust to the pro game.

1122
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:06,039
IQ, as mentioned before, is
above average, great vision in the

1123
01:26:06,159 --> 01:26:11,840
offensive zone, thrives on finding open
teammates. He's not as engaged physically,

1124
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:15,960
again, but a not a panic
meter despite the fact that maybe the physical

1125
01:26:15,079 --> 01:26:19,560
game isn't coming as quickly. He
will hold onto the puck to find the

1126
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:24,880
open man, sometimes his own detriment. And of course we talked about the

1127
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:29,159
concussions that end of the season last
year that probably hurt his performance a bit

1128
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,800
defense average. He won't hurt you
on the on the ice offensively, but

1129
01:26:33,039 --> 01:26:39,680
not a guy who's necessarily going to
thrive there. Coach Jim Montgomery's system is

1130
01:26:40,159 --> 01:26:45,399
something that is gonna benefit him when
he shows the tendency to fly the zone

1131
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:48,600
early to try to gain an offensive
advantage as a high skill guy, Coach

1132
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:54,159
Montgomery isn't necessarily averse to that.
So the biggest asset, as we said,

1133
01:26:54,239 --> 01:26:58,399
skating concern physicality, strength, top
tier potential. He could be a

1134
01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:01,800
first line playmaking forward according to Nate
in a perfect world if he picks up

1135
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:08,560
the physical game and is a pass
first forward who skates next to somebody like

1136
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:11,239
Pasternak. If he gets into that
type of a role, it could be

1137
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:15,640
great times for Lisell. Most likely
tier, maybe more like a middle six

1138
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:17,760
er and eight thinks so many question
marks in Licell's game, it's hard to

1139
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:23,880
see him as more than that right
now. Stylistic comparable some of the smaller

1140
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:27,560
guys in the league, like Mitch
Marner, Matt Barzala, or some examples

1141
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:30,760
the Nate Gibs won't blow you away
physically or with the shot, can be

1142
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:34,279
an elite playmaker with a high hockey
IQ. You can only dream. The

1143
01:27:34,359 --> 01:27:40,159
Bruins can only dream he'll end up
as effective on the defensive end as Marner,

1144
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,840
who was never regarded as a two
way forward but garnered enough interest to

1145
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:47,600
become as Stealky finalist this season.
But a guy can dream. NHL ranked

1146
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:54,520
King Mason Black helped us out by
putting out a poll on Twitter between Fabian

1147
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:58,960
le Sell and Braden Yeager, the
first round pick of the Pittsburgh Penguins this

1148
01:27:59,119 --> 01:28:04,319
year. The NHLI similarity score for
Lisell was Connor Doer. It was one

1149
01:28:04,359 --> 01:28:10,319
of his top one of his top
matches. Maybe not quite as enthusiastic as

1150
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:13,239
one would want to be about that, but anyway, Lisell versus Yeager.

1151
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:18,319
The three hundred nineteen votes out there
ended with Bradon Yeager at fifty five percent

1152
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:23,520
to the advantage of Fabian Liesell.
Now me, I see this maybe as

1153
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:27,680
more of a product of prospect fatigue. Lisell's been out there. As you

1154
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:30,600
said, people have started to sour
on him a little bit, but concussions,

1155
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,239
some of these things that he may
still be growing into. I think

1156
01:28:33,279 --> 01:28:38,760
it's probably a little too soon to
discount his ability to impact the game.

1157
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:44,079
And also, again we'd like to
say that just because a guy might be

1158
01:28:44,199 --> 01:28:47,079
the most relevant forward left on a
team doesn't necessarily mean he's going to score

1159
01:28:47,119 --> 01:28:50,039
a ton, because it's not all
the scoring has got to come from some

1160
01:28:50,359 --> 01:28:55,479
teams the Coyotes. Sometimes the scoring
comes from nowhere. And maybe that will

1161
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:59,000
be the case when Lisell hits full
maturity in the mid career up there,

1162
01:28:59,039 --> 01:29:02,800
when some of these other guys raging
out a little Postern which is likely to

1163
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:05,800
be hanging around for quite a while. But I think Lisell would still be

1164
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:11,920
my choice here between the two.
But Braden Yeager Fabian Liesel, which one

1165
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:16,319
do you prefer? Victor? This
is an interesting one, and I totally

1166
01:29:16,359 --> 01:29:20,920
agree with what you said about prospect
fatigue. I think people are really interested

1167
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:26,399
and excited with the new and shiny
toy and Braden Yeager, and I do

1168
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:31,680
definitely like that Yeager is the prize
joy of this Penguin system, like li

1169
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:36,520
Sell is for Boston. Actually the
only top forward is really in either system,

1170
01:29:38,039 --> 01:29:41,640
being a little farther away. Yeager
I think gets the nod for me

1171
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:45,800
because where he is at his stage
of its development and how good he was

1172
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:49,079
this year. I think he has
room to grow. Lisell has grown in

1173
01:29:49,159 --> 01:29:53,079
the last couple of years, but
it's still trending down in terms of his

1174
01:29:53,239 --> 01:29:58,560
overall top tier potential. So at
this point I would trade him unless I'm

1175
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:01,279
ready to compete and want to Lisel
up and down. I think there's a

1176
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:04,399
there's an argument to be made if
you're ready to compete now, I would

1177
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:10,840
trade a Yeager for Lacel just because
you get those However, many games you

1178
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:13,600
can flex him up and down and
get that production. If he's playing in

1179
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:15,840
the NHL and he's so close to
NHL ready, Yeager is going to be

1180
01:30:16,239 --> 01:30:23,199
at least probably three to four years
between his OHL or sorry WHL time and

1181
01:30:23,239 --> 01:30:27,720
then the HLS. But long term
potential, I would take Yeager if I

1182
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:33,600
can be patient with him and looking
at hockey prospecting his star potential, Yeager

1183
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:39,239
is eighteen percent and Lacelle started at
fifteen and then trended down. He's now

1184
01:30:39,319 --> 01:30:44,920
at two percent. So it looks
a lot better in terms of upside and

1185
01:30:45,199 --> 01:30:48,680
how you know what they could hit
in their top very top potential. And

1186
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:54,039
you look at the rest of Lisell's
comps and they're sad. Most of them

1187
01:30:54,239 --> 01:31:00,560
are bus or average or replacement level
producers. There aren't really too many good

1188
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:04,920
ones to choose from. Nate,
our content curator here picked a recall,

1189
01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:11,319
sorry me call Repick who was a
bust. There's maybe someone like Matt Collin,

1190
01:31:11,399 --> 01:31:15,880
who's pretty was a pretty average producer. So it's not super exciting if

1191
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:18,199
you look at the numbers. I
think it is somewhat exciting and that he's

1192
01:31:18,239 --> 01:31:23,319
going to get the opportunity and he
has a chance to be relevant in fantasy.

1193
01:31:23,399 --> 01:31:25,840
It's just a matter of how high
he can hit that upside. I

1194
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:30,359
should also mention that in terms of
other systems, the Jay Fresh Top Down

1195
01:31:30,399 --> 01:31:35,199
Hockey model is very pessimistic only so
just two percent chance of being a star,

1196
01:31:35,359 --> 01:31:40,279
just sixteen percent chance of being an
NHLer. I think that NHLO chance

1197
01:31:40,399 --> 01:31:43,800
is way low because I think he's
got a much better chance than that,

1198
01:31:44,399 --> 01:31:47,880
but definitely pretty pessimistic on him becoming
a star, which isn't terribly unreasonable,

1199
01:31:48,079 --> 01:31:54,600
Jessee, for sure, I think
that's what we could say about this guy

1200
01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:58,800
at this point, fabian Lis.
But nonetheless, let's move on to the

1201
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:04,520
need to know prospect. Our need
to know prospect is Frederick Brunette, twenty

1202
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:10,880
twenty two fifth round pick by Boston
six two eighty five left handed d finished

1203
01:32:11,079 --> 01:32:15,399
fourth his fourth season in the Q. Seventy three points in sixty six games,

1204
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,159
split between Ramuski and Victoriaville, was
over a point per game for the

1205
01:32:18,279 --> 01:32:23,560
Tigers and just under with the Oceanic
played one game with Providence had to assists.

1206
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:27,439
That's pretty nice. Although he will
be twenty this season, has one

1207
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:30,760
more season of eligibility with the Q
due to COVID, so he could play

1208
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:35,279
there. He also could play in
the HL if that were or something that

1209
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:40,600
Boston wanted. He's still unsigned with
the Bruins, but he'd played in Providence

1210
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:44,560
on an amateur tryout, so we're
interesting to see where he ends up in

1211
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:47,119
what he does this year. But
we need to know a little bit more

1212
01:32:47,279 --> 01:32:51,159
about what makes Frederick Brunette special.
So Jesse wanted to tell us what our

1213
01:32:51,199 --> 01:32:56,920
FHL scout had to say. Back
to ninth's scouting report, he's been checking

1214
01:32:56,960 --> 01:33:01,039
him out on the video. Skating
above average for brunette effortless skating style you're

1215
01:33:01,039 --> 01:33:05,600
only see in a select few offensive
defenseman special to watch him work his way

1216
01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:11,600
up the ice, beating four checkers, creating odd man rushes and scoring opportunities.

1217
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:15,720
One of those defenseman who gives opponents
fits in defensive zone coverage, nearly

1218
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:19,039
impossible to keep him covered in man
to man puck handling also above average.

1219
01:33:19,079 --> 01:33:24,279
The skilled puck carrier as Brenette,
using his abilities to walk all over the

1220
01:33:24,359 --> 01:33:29,560
offensive zone while controlling the puck while
identifying the target a threat all over the

1221
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:33,239
ice when he quarterbacks the power play. Shot average here doesn't have the strongest

1222
01:33:33,279 --> 01:33:36,439
of shots to the ability to pick
his spot to score a ton of goals,

1223
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:41,199
but he does excel at getting shots
through traffic from the point to create

1224
01:33:41,239 --> 01:33:45,520
his own scoring opportunities or rebound opportunities
for his teammates. I accuse average tendency

1225
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:49,079
to hold up a puck for too
long and forced plays in the offensive zone,

1226
01:33:49,119 --> 01:33:53,920
which causes him to give up opportunities
the other way. For what it's

1227
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:56,680
worth. In his one game in
Providence this year, he didn't make too

1228
01:33:56,720 --> 01:34:00,560
many mistakes and he picked his spots
a little better than he did in junior,

1229
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:04,960
but too soon to tell whether that
will carry over into his career from

1230
01:34:05,039 --> 01:34:10,680
now. Fourth defense average needs to
work on his defensive game in order to

1231
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:14,720
excel at the pro level, but
Nate's not that concerned with it because he

1232
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:17,720
plays well enough in the defensive zone
that he's not hurting his team at this

1233
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:21,760
point. So back to the biggest
asset here was the skating. The biggest

1234
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:28,079
concern offensive IQ top tier potential.
What would make him get to that level

1235
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:32,479
bottom two parients power play specialist or
how would he peek out what the best

1236
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:36,520
he could be bottom two parients powerplay
specialist. If Burnette's going to play in

1237
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:40,119
Boston, he's going to have to
play to his strengths, which is creating

1238
01:34:40,119 --> 01:34:43,479
an offense and being willing to take
risk. But the problem is there's a

1239
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:47,279
lot of guys on this team right
now who would limit his opportunity of being

1240
01:34:47,359 --> 01:34:54,239
a Keith Handle or Shane gosss Bear
most likely role or most likely tier.

1241
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:58,319
He is probably going to be a
depth defenseman on this team the last few

1242
01:34:58,359 --> 01:35:01,560
seasons. First round pick jac the
Boreal is the seventh defenseman some of the

1243
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:05,239
time in the Bruins roster, maybe
expect something more like that and a stylistic

1244
01:35:05,279 --> 01:35:12,600
comparable. He's a classic news school
offensive defenseman in the Eric Carlston mode,

1245
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:15,079
trying to play that type of a
role. Though Eric Carlson plays everything these

1246
01:35:15,159 --> 01:35:18,640
days, but watching the ice on
the offensive zone, you're just as likely

1247
01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:21,800
to see him in the corner trying
to retrieve the puck than to see him

1248
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:26,800
at his usual spot on the blue
line. So gonna come down to coaching,

1249
01:35:27,239 --> 01:35:30,880
the way that they can use him
and the way he can bring things

1250
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:35,039
together. The NHL rank King Mason
Black always likes to put the poll out

1251
01:35:35,079 --> 01:35:42,119
there and give some stylistic comparables in
his model. Marco Scandella Colin Miller come

1252
01:35:42,119 --> 01:35:45,680
out as a couple of the top
comparables for Brunette and Brunette has put up

1253
01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:50,520
against Ryan Chesley, the second round
pick last year, not this year,

1254
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:56,199
of the Washington Capitals. Plays at
the University of Minnesota and was part of

1255
01:35:56,279 --> 01:36:02,199
the US National Development Program team.
Which do the people out there on the

1256
01:36:02,279 --> 01:36:05,800
internet think is going to be the
better fantasy player in the long term.

1257
01:36:06,359 --> 01:36:12,800
Ryan Chesley soundly defeats Frederick Brunette two
thirds to one third. I don't know,

1258
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:15,680
Victor, this is this is a
little bit of a down ballot choice.

1259
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:16,359
To me, I think that's where
we are here. I don't know

1260
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:20,399
that I'm all that enthused to have
either one of these guys doing the job

1261
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:25,920
for me on my fantasy team,
because I'm not sure about Brunette's role,

1262
01:36:26,279 --> 01:36:31,119
nor am I that enthused with Ryan
Chesley's scoring At this point, Who is

1263
01:36:31,159 --> 01:36:35,359
it that you would rather see on
your team? Frankly, I would rather

1264
01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:44,720
Brunette. And it's interesting because Chesley, I think is a much safer guy

1265
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:46,640
to play in the league. I
think he's someone who can move the puck,

1266
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:51,119
he can skate, he can be
your third pairing guy who's just reliable,

1267
01:36:51,199 --> 01:36:54,960
can play some minutes. But yeah, I don't think that he's really

1268
01:36:55,520 --> 01:37:00,840
super offensive. That year at the
US ENTITYP with Casey was James Casey was

1269
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:03,439
not the best for the program.
And we've seen some other years be really

1270
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:09,279
good, obviously with Hughes, Hudson
and York, and that was just not

1271
01:37:09,399 --> 01:37:12,479
the year for defenceman. And it's
not really a knock on him. He

1272
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:17,119
does what he does well, but
it's not being super offensive, and I

1273
01:37:17,279 --> 01:37:20,239
think that Brunette, even though he
has some more awarts in his game,

1274
01:37:21,039 --> 01:37:27,760
he has the offensive up to upside
to be more special if it all works

1275
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:31,159
out. So is this all comes
down to like defenceman philosophies, which I

1276
01:37:31,199 --> 01:37:36,079
think is interesting Jesse. So many
people think that I don't like having defenceman.

1277
01:37:36,279 --> 01:37:40,600
They just take so long, But
it's this is a classic example of

1278
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:43,840
don't hold Ryan Chesley on your team
because in the end, what are you

1279
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:47,279
going to get? A replacement level
producer who bangs and has some priffs and

1280
01:37:47,680 --> 01:37:51,319
maybe a twenty to thirty point guy, which is really not that interesting.

1281
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:55,960
So you don't roster him, but
you roster Brunette. And if he continues

1282
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:59,880
to progress and show promise, maybe
he pops off in the HL next year.

1283
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:01,359
Now you're really happy you have him. And if he doesn't and he

1284
01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:05,399
kind of transitions to the professional ranks
and doesn't really do anything, we just

1285
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:10,079
let him go, no big deal. So you're not invested too much in

1286
01:38:10,199 --> 01:38:13,560
him. You don't worry too much
about dropping him. And he's a fifth

1287
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:17,520
round pick, so if he became
that really high end upside, you're laughing.

1288
01:38:18,399 --> 01:38:21,920
And if he doesn't you expected it
wouldn't really go that anyways, and

1289
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:26,319
you just drop him. It's a
zero G strategy for d. Yeah,

1290
01:38:26,359 --> 01:38:30,000
you pick up this guy who has
high upside, but it also could just

1291
01:38:30,199 --> 01:38:31,920
not play and you just roll with
that. But I don't really see any

1292
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:35,319
reason to have Ryan Chesley on your
team. Frankly, I don't think he's

1293
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:40,319
It's one of those points where if
you cheer for Ryan Chesley and he ends

1294
01:38:40,399 --> 01:38:43,479
up becoming everything you hoped he could
be, which, like I said,

1295
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:45,279
is like a third pairing guy that
eats some minutes and had some prifts,

1296
01:38:45,359 --> 01:38:53,000
then you're disappointed and that's on you
because that's who we always was going to

1297
01:38:53,039 --> 01:38:56,920
be. Anyways, about a little
bit more about these two. The hockey

1298
01:38:57,000 --> 01:39:00,640
prospecting, it's not super high and
Bernad just eight percent chance of being a

1299
01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:03,000
star, forty five percent chance of
being an NHLAR. But he's holding steady,

1300
01:39:03,039 --> 01:39:05,600
if not increasing those numbers, which
is really good, and that's what

1301
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:10,279
you want to see. Chess Lee
trending down in terms of just three percent

1302
01:39:10,399 --> 01:39:14,520
chance of being a star and actually
lower NHL or probability. So despite what

1303
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:17,000
I just said, that's interesting,
but I think he has a higher probability

1304
01:39:17,039 --> 01:39:21,720
than that. Frederick Brunette in this
model has some decent comps. Justin Schultz

1305
01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:27,720
is one who kind of ended up
becoming a fringe star, but definitely mini

1306
01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:31,479
busts and not super exciting guys.
Also as comps for Brunette, So don't

1307
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:35,199
get too don't go too crazy.
And the Jay Fresh topped on hockey card.

1308
01:39:36,159 --> 01:39:41,159
It's sad Jesse zero percent chance of
being a star in that model,

1309
01:39:42,159 --> 01:39:45,760
which is awful, and just three
percent chance of being an nhlar really pessimistic,

1310
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:50,399
incredibly pessimistic on someone who just had
a fifty pH L for the victoria

1311
01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:56,119
Ville Tigers. And I know that
Mason gives a little boost for defenseman in

1312
01:39:56,199 --> 01:39:59,680
this model, but still, that's
that's pretty harsh. Yeah, Jay Fresh,

1313
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,800
that's rough. Why are you so
harsh? Yeah, we could probably

1314
01:40:02,840 --> 01:40:09,119
move on to talk about her.
Keep your eye in prospect picture. Yeah,

1315
01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:14,720
let's keep our eye on Mason Larey. He is our next guy.

1316
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:17,720
Twenty twenty second round pick six four, twenty d ten pound, left handed

1317
01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:24,039
d He was in the NCAA this
past season and he had four goals twenty

1318
01:40:24,039 --> 01:40:27,800
eight assists in forty games at Ohio
State. That's a slight regression from what

1319
01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:30,640
he did as a freshman. It
was an amazing transition Mason Larrey had from

1320
01:40:31,119 --> 01:40:34,720
the USHL where he was well over
a point per game and that was like

1321
01:40:35,079 --> 01:40:38,800
really good but a weeker league,
and then he went to Ohio State as

1322
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:42,640
a freshman and he was nearly a
point per game. This season, he

1323
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:45,760
was eight points from being a point
per game, so quite a bit under

1324
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:48,920
what still showed growth in other areas. He should be in the HL this

1325
01:40:49,039 --> 01:40:53,399
season. He did play five games
with Providence at the end of the season

1326
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:59,520
and had one assist in eight games
that included playoffs. So yeah, he

1327
01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:02,720
should make another transition, another big
lead. It's a really tough one going

1328
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:08,720
from NCAA to HL, but I'm
interested to see how he does. And

1329
01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:13,279
let's hear a little bit more about
what makes Mason Loray an interesting player from

1330
01:41:13,319 --> 01:41:17,920
our FHL scout So Nate says,
Laurie covers a lot of ground in his

1331
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:23,119
skating. Skating his average due to
his six four frame, and he can

1332
01:41:23,159 --> 01:41:26,640
get up the ice quick with long
strides that keeps him helps him a lot

1333
01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:30,680
in the transition game. But the
agility is a bit of concern it's going

1334
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:33,199
to be harder for him to catch
the faster forwards when the game gets a

1335
01:41:33,279 --> 01:41:38,680
step quicker. Puck handling above average. Laurie has great puck handling skills for

1336
01:41:38,720 --> 01:41:42,359
a bigger defenseman, possessing the ability
to carry the puck up the ice in

1337
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:46,880
transition bind forwards with accurate smart passes. Has a lot of confidence with the

1338
01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:51,600
puck, barely makes a misstep shot. His average more of a past first

1339
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:56,520
defenseman, preferring to distribute, which
is shown by his only eight goals in

1340
01:41:56,680 --> 01:42:00,720
seventy one games at the NCAA level. One doesn't shoot it. He has

1341
01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:03,600
a nice snapshot that couldnt have some
goals to the pro level, but doesn't

1342
01:42:03,640 --> 01:42:08,880
utilize it nearly enough to be more
than an average shooter. IQ is elite.

1343
01:42:09,039 --> 01:42:13,520
That's where Laurey is at his best. Intelligent at both ends of the

1344
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:16,680
ice. Logs heavy minutes at five
on five quarterbacks of power play, anchors

1345
01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:20,439
a penalty kill the offensive end.
He has elite vision, employs something that

1346
01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:26,119
will make him an above average playmaker
an assist getter during his career. Makes

1347
01:42:26,199 --> 01:42:30,960
a great first pass at the defensive
end, jump starts the breakouts and takes

1348
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:33,720
it upon himself to carry the puck
up the ice when the situation calls for

1349
01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:40,600
it, clogs up the zone with
his long reach and high IQ defense is

1350
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:44,279
above average. A lot of his
solid defensive play is a result of that

1351
01:42:44,399 --> 01:42:49,119
IQ, which will make him a
fixture on propower penalty kill units. Again,

1352
01:42:49,319 --> 01:42:55,119
biggest asset IQ biggest concern is the
skating. Even though he does have

1353
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:59,560
some of that speed that we talked
about that goes along with his size.

1354
01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:04,720
His top end potential star defenseman,
Laurie has the tools to be an elite

1355
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:09,239
defenseman if it all came together.
He already has the IQs, so the

1356
01:43:09,319 --> 01:43:13,000
biggest things he should add some weight
to this frame, work on his foot

1357
01:43:13,039 --> 01:43:16,760
speed, but he should always be
able to contribute offensively. Most likely tier.

1358
01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:21,399
Where's he gonna land top four defenseman
says Nate is most likely tour is

1359
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:25,159
just in the top four somewhere.
That could be a big contributor to the

1360
01:43:25,239 --> 01:43:29,039
Bruins and your fantasy team. He
should rack up assist hits, shots and

1361
01:43:29,119 --> 01:43:33,079
blocks. Stylistic comparable, Laurie's body
is a little bit more wiry, but

1362
01:43:33,159 --> 01:43:36,520
if you manage just to add some
more weight, Nate sees maybe a Coulton

1363
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:44,079
Parako type physicality type role could be
a bit disappointing after Parako has disappointed a

1364
01:43:44,279 --> 01:43:47,439
little bit more recently. Oh,
Preco's still doing all right for the Blues.

1365
01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:53,039
But Laurie's college numbers are already better
than Preko's during his time in those

1366
01:43:53,159 --> 01:43:59,279
ranks, and there is similarity there
as well. The NHL Rank King coming

1367
01:43:59,319 --> 01:44:02,239
out with him into a couple of
comparables, one Brent Seabrook, another Matt

1368
01:44:02,319 --> 01:44:08,520
Grizzlick interesting, another Bruin comparable there, and clearly the twenty one twenty two

1369
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:13,479
season he peeked in his projection and
has come down in the last year.

1370
01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:18,119
So we compare him to Carson Lambos, who was drafted late by the Minnesota

1371
01:44:18,199 --> 01:44:25,119
Wild in the first round of the
twenty twenty one draft, and Lambos versus

1372
01:44:25,319 --> 01:44:30,680
Lore in the NHL Rankking Pole came
out decisively, Lambos completing the anti Bruins

1373
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:35,359
sweep of the Mason Black Poles.
It's hard to say I'm hearing a lot

1374
01:44:35,399 --> 01:44:40,600
of very optimistic things from Nate on
Lore, but I'm wondering, is that

1375
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:47,159
how you see this competition and Lore's
future prospects breaking down. I love that

1376
01:44:47,319 --> 01:44:53,800
the anti sweep or the anti Bruin
sweep, that is. I'm sure a

1377
01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:58,520
lot of people sharing that sentiment.
The Bruins are revered in some circles and

1378
01:44:58,640 --> 01:45:02,199
despising others would say, but no, this is how I would have it.

1379
01:45:02,319 --> 01:45:08,640
Actually, I think Lambos has a
lot more upside to his game.

1380
01:45:09,039 --> 01:45:12,800
Of course, we're going to see
what happens this next season for him,

1381
01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:15,439
because he's twenty now and so he
can be in the HL. He's a

1382
01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:20,279
WHL guy and he was great forty
eight points in sixty one games for the

1383
01:45:20,399 --> 01:45:27,920
Ice, and yeah, he's maintained
his star potential, hovering around twelve percent

1384
01:45:28,439 --> 01:45:32,720
fifteen twelve percent. Lambos has Lare
started at the token five percent in the

1385
01:45:32,800 --> 01:45:38,039
model and went down and then back
up, so he's sub five percent,

1386
01:45:38,279 --> 01:45:41,760
although I've really that ended his first
year in college which brought it back up

1387
01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:45,720
a little bit, but he's still
lower end in these statistical models. As

1388
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:49,600
laure and Lambos much more likely.
Both of these guys have decent sized.

1389
01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:54,960
Laurie's a little bit bigger, Lambos
a little bit smaller. Both left shot

1390
01:45:55,079 --> 01:45:59,680
d so you know some similarities there. In Minnesota has a few other nice

1391
01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:02,560
aspects. So in terms of Lora, if you want the one main guy

1392
01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:06,199
in the system, then if you
like that strategy, then LORI is definitely

1393
01:46:06,239 --> 01:46:10,199
your guy. But I think in
terms of just the player who has more

1394
01:46:10,279 --> 01:46:15,000
upside and likely of playing, it's
definitely Lambos for me. Pretty similar,

1395
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:18,039
I would say in terms of that
percent, yeah, two thirds roughly,

1396
01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:24,239
and the looking at some other Lore
comps, he's got some a lot of

1397
01:46:24,319 --> 01:46:28,399
ones that look like nothing, some
busts, he's got some. Colin Miller,

1398
01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:31,279
Paul Martin is one that he looks
a lot alike, and he was

1399
01:46:31,279 --> 01:46:34,279
a pretty average NHL producer, and
I think Lore could end up being like

1400
01:46:34,399 --> 01:46:42,600
that. I think not unlike he
said in his report, Nate said Grizzlick,

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right, I think there's also some
comparables to someone like Brandon Carlo,

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even on the same team. So
in terms of fantasy, not super exciting,

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right, but definitely plays games right, And so that's fear into that

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if you like that. The j
Fresh card also pretty pessimistic on Lora just

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one percent chance of being a star, twenty percent chance of being an nhlor

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But again, both these guys,
especially laure and and lisall should get some

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pretty decent NHL looks here within the
next season or two. So you gotta

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like that. You gotta like the
opportunity there. That's what's available in Boston

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because their prospect pool is so poor
and Jesse. There's definitely more guys that

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we could talk about, but we
don't have time for that now. Encourage

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anyone who wants to know more.
Son up for Patreon. You can read

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the reports from our scouts. There's
more detail even that was read here.

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And if you're scouting, shoot me
a DM on Twitter or the artist formerly

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known as Twitter Discord email us.
You get some really great access to go

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along with putting in a couple of
reports a month, so definitely worth your

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while. If you're interested, we'll
be right back it close up the show.

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Back to close out the show,
a couple of things to be to

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you. First of all, you
should be playing all your leagues on fan

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01:48:01,640 --> 01:48:05,359
tracks. They've got all the options. They've got ten different sports, you

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01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:09,800
can set up hundreds of scoring settings. You can do your dynasty leagues all

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year round. You can pretty much
find every rookie you want, and you

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01:48:14,159 --> 01:48:16,279
can set up the eligibility anyway you
want, you want rookies. You want

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01:48:16,319 --> 01:48:20,720
people to be rookie eligible to go
into the green slots, your rookie spots

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on your roster until they've played five
hundred NHL games or five NHL games.

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01:48:26,319 --> 01:48:28,920
You can do it. It's up
to you. Some of those come with

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the premium product, a lot of
it comes with the free product. So

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01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:36,039
start up your new leagues over there
on Fantracks fan Track's HQ, tons of

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01:48:36,119 --> 01:48:40,359
fantasy content over there. Hockey is
just kind of starting up for the year,

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but there are lots of podcasts,
including the Prospect Pod, Full Count

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01:48:44,840 --> 01:48:49,079
Fantasy Baseball, The Fly Fantasy Football, and p twow Fantasy Football. That

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01:48:49,199 --> 01:48:53,840
Prospect Pod, Rick Hawk is the
host of that. I had him on

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01:48:54,079 --> 01:48:57,720
my other podcast, Dynasy sports Life
last week. Heck of a good guy.

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01:48:58,199 --> 01:49:00,520
We'd like to think our content Cure
or Nate Duffett, who's been helping

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01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:04,239
out with the show prep did a
lot of great work for this Boston episode.

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And we're brought to you by Dauber
Hockey and Dauber Prospects, where Victor

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is an editor. Follow his work
there as well as this other podcast,

1437
01:49:13,520 --> 01:49:18,159
Dauber Prospect report that he does with
Peter Harlan. They talk fantasy hockey prospects

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01:49:18,239 --> 01:49:23,640
every single week. I do a
second show I just mentioned it, Dynasty

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01:49:23,680 --> 01:49:28,159
Sports Life. It's called I talk
four different Dynasty sports sometimes more than one

1440
01:49:28,199 --> 01:49:31,960
at the same time. And yes, indeed Rick Hawk from Prospect Pod is

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01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:36,920
the guest this week, and we
cover about a dozen interesting baseball prospects that

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01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:42,800
you're looking at in fantasy baseball,
some really deep guys, and that is

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01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:45,039
going to pretty much do it.
You should follow on Twitter at fan Hockey

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01:49:45,119 --> 01:49:50,479
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1445
01:49:51,119 --> 01:49:56,439
or wherever else you get your podcast, Spotify, whatever. We really appreciate

1446
01:49:56,520 --> 01:49:59,640
it. Thanks for listening to this
Boston Bruins preview and until next time,

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01:50:00,159 --> 01:50:01,600
keep living that fantasy hockey light.
