It's nice eyes. I'm going easy Boston's News Radio. In those roles I
took, as many of you know, before I was elected as Vice president,
before I was elected as United States Senator, I was the elected attorney
general, as I've mentioned at California, and before that, I was a
courtroom prosecutor. In those roles, I took on perpetrators of all kinds,
Predators who abused women, rodsters who ripped off consumers, cheeters who broke the
rules for their own game. So hear me when I say I know Donald
Trump's type, and in this campaign, I will proudly I will proudly put
my record against his. But does it matter? Welcome back Nightside, Gary
tag William for Dan Ray Dave, all your logos choices a day from Suffolk
University. He is the leader of Political Research Center over there. Okay,
So the reason I played that, Dave is it's the cop against the crook.
That's what I'm going with. That's what we started. But does it
matter? Does it matter? It would? It would matter more if she
were prosecuting him, But it the the content in that speech is formulated to
make him the incumbent, and the known quantity if if if the the basis
canst up a different minute, that's that was pretty good. I gotta I
gotta patch on a it. So the strategy there is to make her look
the like the outsider when she isn't. That's right, Huh, that's right.
If if she can shift the focus to Trump and make this about Trump,
then she takes the out she postures as the outsider. And his goal
is to make Biden Harris you know, in the last three and a half
years, the focus of his campaign. So they're both going to be shining
the spotlight on each other. Usually, Textbook says, usually the campaigns are
about the incumbency. But I've seen some great strategies change that, you know,
and shift it to something different. So it's less about, you know,
the criminal issues, because she can't get too deep into that because you
know what Trump's gonna do. He's gonna say, yeah, this was all
rigged against me, you and Joe, Biden and Loft there and so on.
And it looks like those are all going away, right, I mean
it seems that way. I mean yeah, I mean I don't think they're
going to have an impact. I mean, there'll be a sentencing in September.
I doubt jail time is going to happen in that New York DA's case.
But I'm not a legal expert, so I just I agree with you.
I don't think they're gonna matter. I don't look they're serious. Please
do not misunderstand me here. But I just don't see it being a fact.
I don't think anybody that is voting for him now is going to change
their mind because of that. That's my point. And then if you're a
Republican, you could say, well, look at the Clintons and Whitewater,
right, I mean, so it goes back and forth. You can toss
bombs all day long from one party to the other. But isn't she the
outsider though, because let's face it, when you're vice president, at least
the way I saw it on the West Wing, that's what Joe kinda.
The vice president doesn't do anything. I mean, I know she's associated with
him, but it's not her policy. She was just doing she was just
being a good team player. Can't you make that argument when you know what
Trump's policy is? Sure, but you know, if you play out the
chess pieces, Trump has two options. Either he in debate either he makes
her an extension of Joe Biden and point blank says well, what did you
do as vice president? That forces her into saying, well, I worked
arm in arm and hand in hand with this policy and that initiative and this
legislative of you know, and then he makes her the incumbent, or he
forces her to say, well, I disagree with the president on this,
but I didn't say anything. I would have done things differently with the president
on this issue, but because I was vice president, I didn't say anything.
And that potentially is risky because it potentially alienate Biden voters and you know,
who are going to see that as being disloyal or he didn't he didn't
listen to her, or she didn't have any credibility. But I mean,
what, yeah, I get that, you know, I really think the
way she would win And it goes back to the way we opened up this
interview, this discussion is you know, he would say, you know,
crooked Joe Biden, or Joe's too old or whatever, and then I think
it comes down to, look, it's it's Kamala Harris, who doesn't have
any experience and who ran a terrible campaign. Briefly, in twenty nineteen against
a misogynistic pig. I mean, like that's what she should do. That's
I mean to me. She comes out and says, Donald Trump, do
you want a misogynist to pick for your president? That's where we are,
Dave, you know what I mean. I mean, am I nuts?
But that's the way I see it, And that's sad. No, But
we have to figure out does a voter accept misogyny if the quality of their
individual lives is better? Or does the or does the voter say I'm struggling,
I'm hurting, but I don't want a misogynist, So I'm going to
continue to struggle in her for the next four years. Have the perception that
life will be better with him. He believes that, right, But do
you feel And I mean, I'm putting you on the spot here because I
don't know if you have any numbers, but you know, I guess you
know, because it's all perception. Like you just said to me, Trump
has fifteen percent black voters, which blows my mind. That blows my mind
because when you look at the Republican Convention, I mean, there's I think
Tim Scott and it's all I just saw a see a white I mean,
I didn't see any diversity at that convention. But black voters still feel Trump
will help their wallet. Not necessarily, they're voting for him, not necessarily
because they they like him. They're voting for him because their situation is so
dire, their economic situation is so dire. And by the way, other
polls had Trump higher than Dean. Okay, so we had him, you
know, we had him in the mid teens, both in Michigan. We
interviewed five hundred black voters Michigan and five hundred Pennsylvania. Was the best data
available that's out there to this day. Other polls, national polls had him
in the twenties. That's just that's you know again, you know, it's
all, it's all the perception. Were things that better when he was president
or things just this bad now under Biden. You know what's funny is in
the favorability Biden and Trump were both like unfavorable fifty seven percent, almost identical.
And then when you look at and then when you ask the same people
job approval for Trump when he was president versus job approval for Biden, that's
where the rubber hit the road and more people said life four years ago was
better. Whether it's true or not, it's debatable than it is now.
Well, yeah, because and I'm not you don't have to comment on this,
but I'll comment. I mean, look, COVID the pandemic hit,
and he screwed it up. I mean, and I don't I don't know
how anybody would have handled it, but I want to I want to believe
that a more sane person would have listened to Fauci a little bit more and
would have recognized it. There was a greater sense of urgency as opposed to
being worried about corporate America and saying, there's no problem here, there's no
problem here, just you know, maybe we'll get some bleach and we'll fix
it. You know. That's the type of stuff where I go, oh
my god, and then not to mention January sixth, and I go,
oh my god, because I will tell you this right now, Dave,
I was with I was on vacation with my cousin the first time when Trump
was running against Hillary, and he was I think he was in Alabama.
And I've told this story before, but it's true. He was originally supposed
to speak inside a small gymneys and three four thousand people, I think,
And then he ended up in a football stadium of thirty five thousand, and
I was listening on CNN and I said, this guy's going to win.
It doesn't matter what he says. I've never seen anything like it, or
maybe I just haven't recognized it, but I mean, he the fact I
mean, you must be sick. I don't think you do fact checking.
You must be sick of the fact checking, because now after he does a
speech or the fact checking is off the charts, does that show up in
the polls at all? Again, I'll take you back to the emotional response.
What's true or what is and true? People don't have time to do
their own research, and they don't want to because they hate politics and they
hate the political parties. So it's about what hits them emotionally. You know,
Trump did a speech today. I didn't see the whole thing. I
saw some excerpts, but it struck me. You know, he said repeatedly
how Kamala Harris is a radical and extreme left and all this, And it
struck me because in the exit polls four years ago, Trump lost moderates by
thirty points. Thirty points sixty four to thirty four. Wow. And it
was clear to me it was you know, I don't you know, I'm
cynical. I think everything that's done is pole driven, right, But it
was clear to me that he was trying to position himself. He wanted the
middle and the right, and he's willing to give her the left. And
that's that's I think what he was testing today. He's trying to take that
middle ground because if he loses by thirty points among moderates to Kamala Harris,
he's going to lose again. Yeah, he's going to lose. Yeah.
Dave Pellio Logos is with some Suffolk University of the Suffolk University Political Research Center.
I want to if you get hang on one more time, Dave,
I really appreciate your time. I'm going to get into polling just in general
and the nuts and bolts and the impact on it and what if fact it
does have on a race. That's all coming up next here on wbz's Nightside.
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World Nightside Studios on WBZ
News Radio. Okay, welcome back, every tank away for Dan Ray tonight
here on Nightside. Joining us in one more segment. Dave Pally, logos
pollster also at Suffolk University University Political Research Center. So when it comes to
what you do, obviously you're very passionate about it. And then when I
watch the polls, I will tell you that sometimes I'm just a little bit
numb to it. You know, I gotta be honest with you. It's
like, you know, my friends who are meteorologists, It's like they've done
the weather five times ago. What's it going to be like again tomorrow?
You know, why do you love it so much? I'm addicted to it,
you know. It's the thing I love about it is the uncertainty and
the unpredictability that you can puse something and in an instant everything changes. And
that's exactly what's happened this year, from the assassination attempt, from the debate
to the assassination attempt, to Biden getting out, And there's a certain attractiveness,
there's a certain lure to the unknown, to to the uncertainty, and
to be able to measure it from data point to data point, from one
week to the next week is really cool. And to see what what's moved,
what demographics have moved, what factors and circumstances are driving those emotions,
and so I like it. You know, when nobody's perfect, we you
know, we've gotten some right, we've gotten some wrong, but we work
hard to try and do our best. And there are a lot of good
posters out there. And I think, you know, if people look at
all the polls and look at the polling averages, they they pretty much will
have a decent idea of what's going on most of the time. So when
Biden was talking about the polls, I'm looking at H'm not getting killed?
Was he delusional? I think he might have had some internal polling that was
very selective, Okay, that he could point to if he was ever called
out on it. Right, But this is what George Stephanopoulis kind of said
to him in that interview, kind of said, you know, I've never
seen a person with thirty six percent approval win an election, mister President.
And he was, you know, trying to joggle him a little bit and
get him to think about that, but he was right, yeah, sure,
well, yeah, of course I mean it with the writing. Look,
the writing was on the wall at the debate. To me, I
watched the debate and I said it's over. They got to make a move.
I mean, it was just writing. I mean, it was just
on the wall. It wasn't going to get any better. God bless the
man. I mean, you know, so, do polls reflect America or
did they drive America? Both? They reflect America in the in the moment.
And then I wrote an article a long, long time ago, back
in the nineteen nineties in an academic journal that nobody probably ever read except for
maybe me and my family. But it's right, and it was very short,
and what I basically said back then was that there's a weird circle.
The media demands alla polling numbers, and we conduct polls. Then we give
them the poll numbers, and then they put the poll numbers out, and
then the poll numbers impact behavior, and then a week later we go back
in the field and then we met that behavior, and it's this vicious circle
that goes round and round and round. And it was kind of a critical
article of polling, but I was writing in as more of a citizen than
as a polster. But the answer to your question is both, we do
measure points in time, but they should not be construed as predictive. Even
if you're polling two weeks before an election. As you just said in your
intro, it's a twenty four to seven world, and anything can happen in
a two week. The last two weeks. Oh my god, that's what
drives me crazy about this. I don't know if you agree. I disagree.
But when they're saying, we have to make a decision, we have
to you know, who's going to be here, We have to get the
money. I wasn't sure what was going to happen because I thought we were
going to have a convention, and I was praying for it because it would
have been entertaining as hell. Where we go to the convention, where the
Democrats go to the convention, and okay, let's everybody put their best foot
forward and let's pick somebody as opposed to anoint Kamala Harris right away, because
oh my god, there's only one hundred days left. There's plenty of time
the twenty four to seven news cycle people, there's there's plenty of time.
Quite frankly, I think it's better for her because and I'm not saying she's
going to but there's less of a chance for her to screw up. If
there's a showt amount of time to the to the election, because as we've
seen, all it takes is one mess up and you're done. Yeah,
you know, and the scrutiny is so very high right now on both sides.
And then you've got the third party candidates and a lot of people haven't
really talked about that, but you know, I'm looking at Trump continuing to
pull at forty six, and I know to lose, he's she's going to
get to forty nine or more. Yeah, that only leaves five percent for
third party candidates. Right now, third party candidates are getting like twelve percent.
God, that should tell people something. So that's something's going to give.
If if if third party candidates combined and there were four of them,
if they get six or seven percent, forty seven wins. So you know,
and Trump's right there at forty seven. So either this is why the
Democratic Committee is working aggressively to knock off these third party candidates and the ballot
challenged them everywhere. They have lawsuits going everywhere because they know that the third
party candidates potentially come off of the Democrat And that's why Trump was budding up
to Kennedy. I think, So, I mean I'm looking at the third
party kid. The only third party candidate that hurts Trump has chased all over
the libertarian, and the libertarian hurt Trump. In twenty twenty. We know
in Wisconsin, Arizona, and Georgia where the margin of victory of Biden in
those three states was much much less than what the Libertarian got. So we
know that, But we also know that the other three candidates who are third
party candidates come off of Biden, Cornell west Stein, the Green Party candidate,
and RFK is taking the young voters, Hispanic voters, and some Independence.
So that's well, that hurts Harris. Yeah, it does. It
does because Biden won Independence by fifteen I think in twenty twenty, and right
now she's not winning Independent. So if Kennedy is siphoning off Independence and Hispanic
voters and some young voters, that does come off of Harris. And that's
why they're ballot challenging RFK everywhere in Nevada. There's a lawsuit in Nevada,
there's a bunch of other things going on, and he's i mean, look,
God bless them, God bless him, but he's a little out of
his mind. I mean, you got to say, you know you're sitting
there, you're saying, then you're really not looking at the issues, but
in closing and I really appreciate your time, David. I have found this
very educational and interesting. It seems to me as we speak right now.
Trump has to screw up. Yeah, I think so. I think so
can he veryly, Yes he can, Yes he can. And Harris needs
to collect these micro demographics one by one. She's starting to with young voters,
black voters. She's got to work her way to independent women, she's
got to work her way to independent men, moderates. And if she pieces
it together, it could be a really close race. I mean could be.
It could be a fifty one to forty eight race, or it could
come down to those swings days. You know. You know, you've got
two states that are very close to JD. Vance's home state, and he
could have an impact. And how his numbers are not good, His numbers
are less than most vps coming out of a party convention, but his proximity
to let's start with Michigan. Ohio touches Michigan in one area of the southeast
part of Michigan, the Ann Arbor and south and east he could have an
impact in those counties. Similarly, he could have an impact in Pennsylvania on
the western front of Pennsylvania, like Alleghany County. If Vance went into Allegheny
County for three months and just did town halls and Trump were to break even
in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania can't go to the Democrats because there's not enough Democrats
in Philadelphia and Delaware counties to offset the rest, which may lead them to
go with the Arizona selection. That's right, man, I go with Kelly
from Arizona. Do you think that this would have been any different if Biden
had bowed out a year ago? Hm, I think it would have been
worse because the economy was was we hold the economy, We pulled the economy
with the Sawyer School last year, and the economy numbers were real bad.
I mean, the inflation has just started coming down over the last three or
four months. So if that happened, Trump could more successfully tie the economy
bad economy around Harris. So I think this is a better scenario for Harris
and the Democrats. It's going to be interesting. She definitely has her work
cut out for but maybe the brats will rule who knows to brats TikTok the
TikTok president. Here we go, Dave, you've been fascinating. Thanks a
lot, Dave, pa Hey, I appreciate it. Have a good night,
Dave, you too. Poster from the Suffolk University Political Research Center.
Often Dan will talk to him. I just find the reason why people vote
for somebody fascinating. I just find it fascinating. Like they like the color
of their hair. They don't like it because she's a woman. They like
her because she's a woman. They don't like Trump because of this. But
it's never the issues. It's just it's never the issues. It is they
say it is the issues. Fill time on the twenty four to seven cable
networks. That's what they do. That's what they do. Coming up at
ten o'clock right here in WBZ, Talmage Boston talk show hosts presidential historian is
going to join us. He has a Texan folks, and the last time
I spoke with him, he was not not a fan of the Democratic candidate
Kamala Harris. I don't think he's changed his mind. He's coming up with
ten. Do a few calls, give you some more thoughts. Coming up
next right here on wbz's Night Side. You're on Night Side with Dan Ray
on WBZ Boston's news radio, Gary Tangway for Dan. Todight, President Biden
saying, so long took a victory lap, good for him, and now
we move Now we move on as we look ahead to the presidential presidential election
with Donald Trump, and it seems Kamala Harris unless something crazy happens. And
I was thinking it wasn't automatically going to be her, even though Biden endorsed
her, and as soon as the money went her way, she raised one
hundred million like that on Sunday night, I go, yeah, it's over.
Because I wanted a race. I wanted a good old fashioned convention.
I wanted to see some speeches, some passion, some gabbls. And I
still think there would have been time for whoever came out of the Democratic Convention
is the nominee. It's a campaign against Donald Trump. The news cycle is
like fifteen seconds. Don't give me that. They just wanted to get her
in because they wanted to take care of Biden, you know. So it
seems that her running mate will be the Kelly out of Arizona, Gabby Gifford's
husband, astronaut combat pilot Shapiro out of Pennsylvania. I mean it's Jewish,
But is that really? Is somebody not going to vote for the guy because
of his religion? Oh my word, what are we coming to beyond that?
Nuts? Six one, four, ten thirty. A couple of people
want to chime in on what's happening tonight. It's going to Tom on the
cave. Hey, Tom, you're up on night side. Hi Tom,
you're on Hawaii. What's up, budd Hawaii? I'm good. Question Tooya,
did you did you infer that Donald Trump is insane? Yeah? Yeah,
so you. I just really appreciate your impatiality, you know what I
mean? It's I mean really, I mean, it's the guy behind a
microphone. I'm not a doctor. Did you see what happened on January sixth?
Did you see what happened on January where he's six He did not stand
in the way of his supporters attempting to overthrow the government. He didn't.
People forget about that. Look the assassination attempt terrible, awful. There's no
look. I don't want to vote for anybody. I don't like anybody who's
running. I don't. I don't think she has the experience. She didn't
do a very good job in twenty nineteen. She was a very good prosecutor
from what I understand. An attorney general, she's very good on the facts,
but you have to do more than that. I don't know how she's
going to handle international policy. But at the same time, do I want
a guy who wants to tell NATO to go screw or if he doesn't get
his own way, say that the voting is rigged and try to overth and
have his constituency overthrow the government. Do I want that? I mean,
does Donald Trump at president that that doesn't scare the hell out of you?
If Biden was still running, it would scare the hell out of me.
She's a great unknown. I don't know. I can only bring up and
talk about different issues. But if I had to pick, it's the less
of two evils. I'll pick her because am I a Harris fan? No?
She seems like a very nice person. But Trump scares the hell out
of me. If there was another, If Mitt Romney was running, I'd
vote for him. Would that make you feel better? There was pretty much
any other Republican running. I could possibly vote for them. But this guy
doesn't. He doesn't put the country first. He puts himself first. It's
a TV show for him. Why can't anybody see that this is a guy
that called dead soldiers losers. He did that Arlington Cemetery, he did that.
Come on, Oh my god, let's get a Susan and Worcester.
Susan, you're up on WBC's night set, said, I don't. But
anyways, getting back to her, you know, all she's doing is talking
about Trump's character. What about her? How do you think? I'm sorry?
People sleep around? Okay, I mean we've heard all the stories about
JFK. Clinton. We've learned all those stories about him. Hey, the
deficit, we didn't we didn't have any debt. But Clinton, I mean,
it's a bit of a it's kind of horn, Doug, you know.
I mean, we all know the thing about Lewinsky and the cigar and
the dress and all that stuff. But the economy was great, balance the
budget. Politicians sleep around. People sleep around. Are we gonna start?
Are we gonna have a moral clause now? In we have a moral clause
in you can't if you've slept around, you can't be a government, it'd
be nobody running the country. Frank and Boston. Frank, you're up on
WBZ. Hi, Frank, Hell, I'm sorry. My problem is with
these posters and this m there's thirty six percent. If you had a lead,
a weeper polling at this time, you wouldn't win. But yet presidents
had a higher polling and they lost. Yeah, I mean, polls are
in a sample. I mean, I just find I think Dave is very
interesting. I want to know what drives polls and what drives the way people
think. I mean, look, Hillary was winning in the polls and she
lost. Yeah, I mean, it's there's no doubt this is I appreciate
Dave's passion, and I think he's a very interesting guy to talk to.
I don't really care about poles. I really don't. And and quite honestly,
I think poles have become much more valuable to the news media because of
the twenty four to seven, because of the twenty four to seven news cycle,
because it gives CNN and MSNBC and Fox and you know in Bloomberg and
WBZ radio and gets us all something to talk about. But the poles really
have no effect on me. But they're valuable, you know, they're they're
valuable, because this is where I do think poles can make a difference.
I think poles can make a difference when somebody thinks that their candidate is going
to win, whether they vote or not. And that's what I think could
happen with Kamala Harris, with the gen zers, the kids eighteen to twenty
one, who nobody really knows what they think about. They're on TikTok.
You know, she's the brat for them. They could show up because they
see the polls and they go, oh my god, our brat is losing.
Just put a poll on a TikTok the brat is losing, and then
they'll all rush to the polls. I'm not joking. I'm not joking.
Kids eighteen to twenty two, they get their information on TikTok. They get
their information, not so much Twitter, they get their information on the ig,
Instagram. It's a factor, and I think it's going to be a
factor here. And I think they're gonna look and they're gonna say, do
I like Harris or do I like the grumpy old white guy. You know,
though, as Dave pointed out, Trump does well with black voters because
they're worried about the economy and worried about jobs, and they think Trump can
solve that problem. For I don't know. Uh, let's go to Bill
Bill in Lexington, you're up on WBC's Night said Hey, Bill, Oh
my guy, I have to say the best you're opening monologue or however you
want to call it the best. I mean, you're definitely spot on.
I'm not Trump fan. I'm not a bite fan. I don't even vote
anymore because I saw how I mean that I hear you, Bill me,
you mean the Oh my god. Yes, And it's like two old you
know, America. I was always told by my grandparents, my mother and
stuff, when you had a couple of bad relationships, didn't they say,
you know, set down, you know, spend some time with yourself,
learn yourself. I think that's what American Why do we need president anyway?
Because don't Congress and the Senators run everything anyway? Well that's true, I
mean, and that's why democracy works because you have the system of checks and
balances, which is in jeopardy because of what's going on with the Supreme Court.
But Bill, you're not wrong. But I'll tell you why we need
a president. This is why we need a president. You need a president
who is a great communicator, who establishes a sense of confidence in the people,
to let everybody know when they're going to bed at night that everything's going
to be okay tomorrow morning, regardless of whether you're an African American, or
regardless of you if you're an Asian American, or if you're Mexican American,
or if you're Anglo Saxon American, that we're all trying to work and get
to the same place. But the problem is, and I think a lot
of it is because of the television networks, we have a division. We
have a division of so many people so far to the right that hate everybody
who's far to the left. And then there's the eighty percent of us in
the middle who just kind of all want to get along, go to work,
and kiss our kids when we get home. But the nutjobs on the
right and the nut jobs on the left are screwing it up. And that's
who That's who the president and that's who the politicians appeal to, and and
that's what they want because they don't want love, they don't want unity,
They want to divide that we want to divide it absolutely. And what happens,
Bill, is that moderates like myself or you just said, you go,
I'm not going to vote because people are crazy and that and that.
Actually I get it, I get the apathy. But I'll tell you right
now, what is going to take this country down. It's it's not terrorism,
it's not Putin, it's not a foreign entity, it's not North Korea.
It's gonna be our own apathy. And one day we're going to wake
up. We're gonna wake up and we're not going to be the power we
once were because we're going to be too damn lazy and too apathetic about trying
to do the right thing, Mark my words. We will be our own
worst enemy. One more question I just want to bring up, and I
don't ever hear any of the Trump supporters talking about it, and of course
the Biden. So if January sixth was okay and Biden said he's going to
finish that, you know, his his six months, what if all of
a sudden he saw killing better and he pulled a January sixth. If it
was okay for Trump, it's not okay for Biden to do that. Of
course, it's not okay for Biden to do that. It's not okay for
anybody to do that. But Biden's going to be too tired. Did you
hear him tonight? Yeah? I heard him. Oh Man, Bill,
Bill, the poor guy needs a nap. I mean, God bless him.
He's old. I mean he's still He needs to go. He needed
to go finish out the rest of his life with his family, with being
loved around him. Yes, he's done good. He take the victory lap,
but go sit down somewhere. Yeah, I agree. I agree,
Bill. Everyone who is young need to do the same thing. I hear.
Thanks for the phone call. We appreciate it, Bill. Ten o'clock,
Talmadge, Boston. You gotta stick around for this guy. This guy
does not like Kamala Harris strapping when he comes on at ten right here on
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Come at ten o'clock, Talmrich, Boston does not like Kamala Harris. Stick
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the West Coast producer comedian, writer, Emmy Award winning producer, it's that
of comic Sam By other changes for his take on what's going on in the
world politically, we need to laugh a little bit people, at least I
do need to laugh a little bit. It's good for the soul, you
know, it's good for the heart. It's good for the soul. Earlier
tonight, President Biden took a victory lap said so long, job well done.
Lord. Do you disagree or agree? You have to give him credit
serve the public for over fifty years in his life. I always point to
politicians like this and I say, look, you may not agree, you
may not disagree. Well, you may not agree, you may disagree.
I should have said originally, but they could have made more money in private
sector, and for whatever reason they wanted to say their ego, they did
it. Politicians don't make a ton of money. I mean they do some.
They usually make it after they'd retire, and they go on private tours
like Obama and book tours and so forth, and get twenty million dollars a
speech or whatever he's getting. I made that number up. I don't know
if it's that high, but it's in the millions. I mean, if
Michelle or Barack Obama speaks somewhere, they're making millions of dollars for a couple
hours, I would think. So, you know, God bless you,
Joe. You made the right call. You had to go. There was
no way, there was no way he was going to have the energy to
serve a second term the way I feel. But he did say this,
and I do want to play this segment from what he said tonight. I'd
give him my heart and my soul to our nation. Like so many others,
I've been blessed a million times in return with the love and support of
the American people. I hope you have some idea how grateful I am to
all of you. The great thing about America here kings and dictators do not
rule. The people do well. And that's the key. Look, when
Donald Trump first went in the race against Hilary and I told you at the
beginning of the show or during the show that when I first heard him speak
in Alabama, I said, this guy's got something going. People are enamored
with this guy. He is speaking to people, he is relating to people.
I mean, you got to give Trump credit. He has connected.
He has connected with a portion of America that got him elected to the presidency
and may do it again, and may do it again. Even though he
makes things up. He's never right. I mean, it's amazing. He's
teflon. You can't you can't knock him out. I mean, if you're
a Trump person, you are all in January sixth or not. And yes,
the assassination attempt, oh my god, tragic. Thank god he made
that. He turned his head to the right. I mean, you just
don't you don't want that at all. But I think that also made him
stronger, that picked up momentum. I think that that gave them, gave
him some favorability. You know. But when Trump started out, I said,
I don't know, maybe he can do this, Maybe he can.
But then with the way he had, you know, to me, he
just he just went off the rails. And he wants to be king.
He wants to be king. He wants to be a dictator. It is
not government for the people by the people. It is government by Trump for
Trump. January sixth would tell you that. And he still thinks the election
was rigged. God, that's the thing. I can vote Republican, I
can if I think that that person is for me, or for us,
or for the most part, has the United States in mind. I just
don't. I just don't think he does. I have voted Republican before.
I would happily vote Republican because I don't know if how is Harris going to
do? I don't know how she's gonna do. She smiles, she looks
charming, she seems nice. But I'll tell you, man, the gen
Z is. If she connects with the gen Z is TikTok. TikTok could
win the White House. TikTok wins the White House for Kamala Harris. You
think I'm kidding, I'm not. Paul in Boston, Paul, you're up
on WBC. Hello, sir, how are you. I'm good now.
I've listened to you before when you filled in for Dan. Thanks, okay.
And I know that you don't like Trump, and Dan would always want
me to be respectful when I call his show. Sure, okay. Now,
I heard you earlier say I'd rather vote for Kamila Harris of the two
evils. That's what you said here in the show. So you would want
open borders and let the whole world come here. I don't want that.
And I'm a registered Democrat and I'm going to vote for Trump and king and
dictator. That talking point just it's worn out. He does don't want to
be a king of a dictata and change the constitution. Well, you don't
do you don't do. You know what Donald Trump does. He gets up
in the morning, he watches he watches the news station. See what they're
saying about him. That's about it. Are you kidding me? You don't
think he wants to be king? No? Oh, come on, And
by the way, by the way, why do you think Kamala Harris is
going to open up the borders and make it worse than it areg Oh my
god, you're more progressive than Biding would ever be. Yeah, it's not
going to happen. It's not going to happen. Is not going to allow
it. Furthermore, we had a bipartisan pack in Congress, and Trump next
stick he got to his cronies and he said, don't do that. I
need to use it as a political playing We would have had a bipartisan agreement
on the border. The border has been a mess forever forever, whether you're
taking families and separating them and putting kids along in one cage and parents are
in another cage, are separating families. The boy, it doesn't matter.
The borders have never been great, never been great. I don't believe that.
I don't believe Kamala Harris would make the borders worse. I don't think
they can be worse. We don't need another Democrat difc cycle in the White
House this time. Absolutely not to continue on the Biden policy. It's absolutely
appalling. All right, Paul, Well, I appreciate the phone call,
Thank you, all right, take care of it, good one. All
right, So coming up next to Paul, used to stick around because talmuch
is going to agree with you on this while everything has been raw raw,
I think unless you're watching Fox News for Kamala Harris so far, that is
about to change. So we will discuss that coming up here on WBZ and
if you're just joining us right now, if you have a chance online tomorrow
WBZ dot Com and the iHeartRadio app. Dave Peli, your logos poster from
Suffolk joined us and I great conversation about how the polls work, why they
work, why we need them. Because I just admitted to him, like
I polls. I'm numbed to poles. They're like white noise to me.
They really are, because there's so many of them. But that's me.
They are important, they have a purpose, and Dave's very passionate about it.
So check that out online. At eleven o'clock. Sam Metler, comedian
from California, and he will join us so we can laugh a little bit
right here on WBC. Okay, we got news coming up, and we're
gonna get back with Tambwich Boston right here. All right, Brokes, we're
gonna take a break right now. Can we do that? All right,
Let's do a kid. We'll be back on the other side.