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How welcome you are to involuntary permanence. It is a special of voluntary permanence

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or not a special without a surprising
chapter. No one knew he was coming,

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not even we knew he was coming. But we' re here.

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Thanks for being here. The people
who download it, they' re gonna

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download it. Well, all right, then. Now they already know it.

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The day we' re going to
talk about Paco Stan' s new

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series We' re going to talk
about Bridgerton and the imaginary friend movie.

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And well, either we start or
you' re hearing involuntary permanence with Fausto

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Ponce. How are you? Good
Friday, thank you for being here.

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I' m with Carlos Before Mendiola, How are you Carlos Andrés, Manuela

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Hello Paus very well and I,
because here also surprised on Friday to be

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here with you and everything we'
ve been seeing and discovering. Yeah,

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and I called Carlos Andés Mendola because
I don' t know what I think.

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It was an intuition. I said
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do that for now. Not that
much you' re seeing a lot.

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That' s seeing a lot can
work and it turns out that we both

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saw the new Paco series is in
the idea of Amazon Prime. I didn

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' t put it in the titles
because then the platforms are already too strawberry

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and that certain words are no longer
used and that if I don' t

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know what the algorithm punishes you and
that you don' t monetize. And

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then she' s the new one
to put him to bed with Amazon Prime.

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By now and I saw her I
saw her. Carlos Andrés Mendiola,

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surely saw her even to Daniel and
more people staying. But, well,

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I told Carlos Andres I' m
sorry. Guys, I' m sorry

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because of the people who are with
us, which is a typical day for

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permanence. But well there now yes, that we put it there on streaming

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by whoever wants to look after it
will be available on other platforms in audio

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version also how it always happens.
Okay. But, but, but,

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I was very intrigued because Carlos Andres
was a Bridgerton fan and then I'

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ve been watching memes, Facebook pages
dedicated to bridger Ton and how Carlos Andés

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Medio was very happy and told him
we' re going to talk about it.

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Nor have we talked about then what
happens to bris to Carlos Andrés Medella,

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why this Whatsoul the Fast abaut is
that it is like our soap opera.

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You see we had our ex-
men novel, well exact richard or

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novel. Third season in Netflix,
Third season, Third season that has obviously

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already three seasons. It has a
spin off series that also had a season

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that focuses on the queen. It' s based on these novels. Her

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name is Julia, Julia Queen,
and it' s the story of a

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family with eight children. And well, every time he tells us the love

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story of one of these creatures,
of one of these Little Ones are a

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wealthy family and Bridgeton of all life, bridger Ton of all life. If

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they are very well- off,
very much if we say coveted there socially

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they move very well in all this
And, moreover, the seasons occur during

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the season of debutantes, which was
like this moment of the year, where

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the young married women were presented so
that, because it was just known that

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they were already at this moment and
then, they would find the right man

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to marry. And so on,
and besides, it' s like the

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queen' s venia that can choose
one of these young girls and say it

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' s like a diamond and then
it' s like a woman, because

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it' s very special, that
all men should have there as well as

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look at the look, okay hear, and then to see this third season,

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not that it' s really hot, this third season, how you

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' re feeling it' s really
good. The truth is you have right

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now here on screen, right to
the leading couple on this occasion, which

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is Collin, the third of the
children Bridgerton and Penelope Feathrrington, who is

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their neighbor. These two characters had
already introduced them. Of course, we

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knew before that they were, then, as very good friends, that there

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was chemistry among them. But they
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say they did more than friends.
They were just friends, and nothing else

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until this season. And I think
it' ll work very well. And

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something that the series is doing,
that I think they are correcting their old

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mistakes, because although, as I
said, every book is about a son,

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because it is the history of the
family. But then one challenge you

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have is to change the protagonists each
season, because it is clear, yes,

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yes, yes, and that is
a challenge because it goes down a

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bit, because the interest is no
longer like the same protagonists. No,

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so here what they did was jump
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t adapted the books in order.
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get to the room. And what
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to go prefiling this couple. This
couple, also, Penélope, who is

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the actress who appears there, is
not like the typical protagonist. Not because

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the chaparrite has a figure, because
a little more filly, let' s

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say. But she is also one
of the most attractive characters in the series,

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because she is this girl who,
well, obviously is already super single,

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because she is already twenty- seven, twenty- eight years old.

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So that' s like tragedy and
what' s going to happen now.

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Besides, the poor girl is kind
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the mother already says, because mexica
don' t worry. If I don

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' t know you, thank you
for taking care of me and she'

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s not God. No. The
other two sisters are already married, but

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they don' t have children yet, and that' s putting them a

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little at risk because they need a
new heir, because you know these mechanisms

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of those times where I needed to
see heirs, where men are who were

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the property and so on. Then
it' s also like that pressure there

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running good. And besides, this
character is Lady Wiseld Hum. Who'

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s Lady Wisel Down. She'
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from the series and the voice is
from Julians and this character has a kind

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of social newspaper that gossips throughout the
debutante season and puts a lot of flavor

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in the broth. Of course,
not then is this character. Besides,

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no, then. These first four
episodes solve a part of the story.

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They won' t tell us if
these characters, because they' re finally

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going to take a step beyond being
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That is settled there and they leave
us for the second part. What'

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s going to happen when he finds
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who' s said she hates and
wants to destroy, why she makes

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these terrible comments from all over the
world and includes her family. So,

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you' ll see that it'
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where it' s going And besides, it' s the nobility that a

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pink story becomes attractive. Yeah,
I can' t ping you in such

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a way that I feed you the
excitement you' ve made them. Mendio,

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I' m sorry, but good. Yeah, but we had to

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talk about Bridgecton, because it'
s one of Netflix' s most important

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series. The truth and this season. Besides, obviously we have them,

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but they' re starting very cleverly
to parade the brothers who follow not enough

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for the next season. Obviously,
because we' re so close and so

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smart because we' re gonna want
to, I could see that story.

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Not then, of course, many
more of the season premiered. We took

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the four episodes he' s giving
for a lot of conversation on these strategies,

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as new ones from Bridgers, from
Bridgerton of Netflix. Yeah, yeah,

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well, you see it doesn'
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they give it to us in two
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' s a strategy that would give
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leaving it a little more there on
the agenda. This is weird for me.

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The two- part theme of the
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well, they' re just other
strategies there for visualization. I guess you

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get hooked the same way, but
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i e, if on a weekend
I put you through the whole season,

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the best thing you get in half
and you don' t finish the

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rest anymore. Or you' re
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this way, they already make sure
that at least one weekend you throw the

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whole marathon, it' s the
whole first part and then you match up

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with the rest. I don'
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have more scope, they can have
better metrics. I guess, I think

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they have more reach, because I
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is that a lot of people who
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say fallict to the content, we
throw it over that weekend. And I

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think the phenomenon is like thinking that
you turn on a cer and I and

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it goes off, logo, switch
off, then, then. And what

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they want is for the game to
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talking about it, because even cobra
hush they said they' re going to

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release it in three parts. What
he wants to give. This strategy works.

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Yeah, well, yeah. Netflix
continues with that yet other platforms like

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Apples, every week, at least
in several in several series. Sometimes I

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prefer it, sometimes going back to
the weekly format is comfortable. The truth

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see other times you want to give
it all to you, not cho,

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I wish I' d prefer it
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it' s weekly. You know, then ah yes, maybe I'

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ll expect two of them to come
together and I' m gonna be funny,

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because if I don' t know
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that' s to say, if
he had a certain relief when it'

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s weekly and I' m seeing
her there every week. Sometimes if I

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wake up and I want to know
what' s going on, not that

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it' s going to end all
like getting ahead of me. But well,

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there' s bridgeton then to try
out this third season, touring this

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super approved third season and if you
already see the previous ones and like them,

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because the love stories that have,
because you already know a lot of

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sexual attention, flirting sex scenes also
a lot of eye plug, that is,

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it is very well done in that
sense, not of moon to the

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protagonists and frame them in such a
way that, then, they become very

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very attractive. Yes, of course, it' s a telenovela that you

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enjoy a lot. Of course that' s interesting, not the subject of

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eye taco does pull and it makes
the series or the movies have certain something

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morbid there and hook you up.
It' s not obviously a resource,

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you say," Oh, what
gachos" But if you end up watching

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Turkish soap operas, for example,
they' re all eggs, that is,

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you are, they' re all
handsome, beautiful and handsome. Everything

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is like in the golden age of
Hollywood and they keep doing it, not

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anymore, obviously, with seeing a
lot of content and working on this you

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realize this is the moment of the
eye cue. I remember very much about

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the cat on the hot roof with
Elizabeth Taylor and Polneuman, and it was

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like the way they take her out
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pianos. No And then that'
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be selling the actor to the actress
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And then they made these fantastic frames
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That' s it, and this
series does it, too, very

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well. You don' t have
the protagonist, who' s a pretty

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cool guy who also looks like Jim
was sent and then they take him out,

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because he starts showing this hair on
his chest. And it begins is,

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then, to be selling the rooster. Sure, sure, you understand.

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All right? All right? There' s good, yes, quality

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Carlos Andrés Pindula is in Bridtherton.
If you like, then there' s

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nothing to do with it. Hey, I want us to change the subject,

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too. Let' s go to
the movie that we couldn' t

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talk about, because it' s
last week. But, well, it

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' s one of the kids'
movies of the season and it' s

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called imaginary friends. I don'
t know about monse. We had mixed

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opinions about the people we went to
see her with. Yeah, let'

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s go see her with Gabriel and
some friends. These were the parents of

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Gabriel' s little friends and Mons
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But they do, but the parents
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not so sure. They got bored
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each other, but there the point
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I mean, you hear it all
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of Gabriel Lucy participated in the show. He' s angry or crying the

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movie. Yeah, so they wanted
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end they asked them how they heard
how you see and yes, we all

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liked it, but I think they
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Anyway, it doesn' t matter, well, folks, imagining is

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a stellar movie by Ryan Raynold with
cras Maybe I forgot the first name Crasinsky.

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What' s His Name Thank you
John Crassins, who also does not

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direct and he is the screenwriter and
in fact, the story arises from him.

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The story arises at the beginning of
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that we see him and they'
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that, like, it really caught
his eye watching his kids play and that

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they were playing tea or whatever and
that the kids have these moments in which

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they kind of disconnect from reality and
dive into these games where they' re

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living together with beings that we can' t see, but that they,

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then, for them they' re
there and that they' re like these

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friends, imaginary. And then the
intention of the film comes from there.

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I mean, I find the premise
of the film pretty, the idea of

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the film very pretty to me.
I agree. With you To me,

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I really didn' t like it
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that' s the thing too,
that' s the premise. I found

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it almost at the end, I
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going on? Where' s the
movie going? No, because he'

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s got a lot of detours.
Suddenly he' s on the side.

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what is the character conflict or what
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to overcome where it' s going? Well, in the end, yes,

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you understand, and there' s
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the premise is pretty and you have
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how cute. Still we could even
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know if the issue of having imaginary
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and having imaginary friends, I say
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love it, right, but the
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because it' s beautiful, not
that we give that chance to imagine adults,

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although you' re no longer a
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exercise. But I also insist I
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it, but well, there'
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her thing and she moves, but
that Carlos Andrés I like how they took

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me. It didn' t seem
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' s very crude It' s
depressing. I didn' t get to

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connect Look, I was going with
the best will to watch this movie because

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I had heard interviews by John Crassinsk
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and imaginary friends have this function and
so on and here we' ve turned

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them into this vehicle, like in
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the kids that I said then,
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super emotional. I in all the
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movie. I agree, with you, I think it' s in his

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hands what he really means between the
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possibility of her dad dying, between
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that he has to help these imaginary
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when the children grow up, because
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then yes, I think that he
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causing them, not because in the
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he has a cast. In addition, it is spectacular, i e the

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vocal cast. It' s but
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it' s not and name it
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was making me super cute, because
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chance that John crassins Key, Emily
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make this movie that they' re
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four of them are here. All
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not had and perhaps their children cannot
watch their films. Not then, the

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whole line seemed so lame to me. But the movie seemed to me like

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you didn' t see it,
like I saw it and I felt it

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even as old. I don'
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this seemed like the' 90s to
me like something we' d seen.

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' s a good point. I
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They start with an idea, then
it changes, it changes. What

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Mons said is that probably someone from
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execution, started to see the development
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change the best. Let' s
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that shows in the script is very
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s the movie for those who don' t know, starts with a little

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girl who' s twelve years old
who' s fighting between now. I

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' m not a child, but
if I' m a child, it

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' s not fair, it'
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as an adult exactly and as Jo
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as he says when he sold them, as Carlos Andrés Mendiola says,

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that is, he has to deal
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the hospital and that he can probably
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he' s got. They say
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s like doing it. You spell
him all the time. So very much

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to life is beautiful, very to
the straw there and trying to protect it,

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let' s say not as accurate. Not exactly the grown- up,

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and she' s staying with Grandma. I tell you this that what

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I' m going to say to
montse says that he doesn' t have

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it, that he has it carelessly
that, but to me it' s

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not to say the girl stays with
the grandmother, but there she comes to

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the hospital as if she were an
adult, because where the hospital is in

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New York it' s not a
dangerous city and the girl moves as she

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wants in the city that she says, she' s getting there very quickly

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everywhere. She' s alone.
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was even crazy or had a mental
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any sense, I mean, she
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s real and who I didn'
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anyway, at her grandmother' s
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as well as giving me the granny
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she doesn' t find that she' s starting to find treasures there that

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you haven' t just seen yet. When you start to see that there

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are some things that move a few
shadows or some characters that are there around

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you, pa swinging around and hiding
and running. So, she goes out

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of the apartment, looking for them
to know what' s up with them,

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goes up some floors and on the
top, because she finds that they

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get into an apartment, she looks
out and because the moment is interrupted because

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there is a neighbor who has an
old lady who says that it is already

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too night to be there playing.
Then it' s over there that tells

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me I got out. The camera
doesn' t come back, pau comes

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back. Yeah, I don'
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well, right now there' s
the one. What did you do,

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I don' t know what I
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camera can be how weird yaye,
and then she, well she' s

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already going home her grandmother and the
next day? Yeah, it comes out

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the next day, the kisses.
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don' t know what they are. I mean, because we don'

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t know if they' re human
and they' re monster and they'

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re moppets and they' re ghosts. They are but when we see them,

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because they are there people, they
are the imaginary friends who are there

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leaving the apartment and there goes a
lord with them who bring total Reynos go

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to the house of someone of a
child because one to look for other imaginary

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friends who got there, because,
since they are no longer imaginary friends who

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no longer have their child, because
they are looking for some child with whom

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to stay. Then they go and
rescue the imaginary friend who ends up being

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this purple character who is called Blue, who is purple, because his name

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is Blue, they rescue him and
suddenly, because they inevitably meet our per

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the girl, with our main character
and because they begin to reveal to him

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who they are and after that,
tell me they will say an inconsistency.

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Forgive me for interrupting you. But
to see these, these, these imaginary

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friends are not supposed to be the
projection of the wishes of the child they

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were exactly accompanying to accompany another child
how we are going to do it,

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because they would have to find a
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I believe it too. It'
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' s the rule of this universe. They can move everywhere, they'

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re imagining everything. She does or
does not really exist in her friends when

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it is, she actually becomes when
one imagines them. It' s all

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in her mind what' s going
on. That' s not clear until

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the end and I' m sorry
spoiler to read, because in the end

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you' re going to wink there
already. Indeed, if these are the

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imaginary ones have, they are anchored
in reality somehow, is that there is

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a mistake in the film. Of
course, imaginary people wouldn' t have

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to be looking to connect with another
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connecting with their original owner. Well, I think, although that' s

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accurate, that' s not clear, not good, and then suddenly,

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she doesn' t know what they' re doing there. He doesn'

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t know what he' s doing. Mr Ryan Reynalds there, no one

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knows either. I thought I was
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No or something, because you don' t know what' s going

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on there. He' s already
all the time with a Mr Major,

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super- suspicious at this time.
And so after that meeting it turns out

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that they tell her that, please, there is a kind of retirement home

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of imaginary friends and that everyone is
looking for another child and that she can

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help how to manage those needs and
connect to these years you imagine with other

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children. Why she can do it, because nothing else, because she lives

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there, because it kind of seems
that when Chiquita was there, imaginary friends

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knew her, but she doesn'
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the house he' s retired,
because I already have those other characters and

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it seems like it' s another
story. I mean, it seems rather

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structured as a television series. No
And after this, there' s another

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story, and then there' s
the story of the dad who doesn'

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t know what' s going to
close. Then the history of the hostel,

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that of the child hospitas the grandmother
also that has another story and then

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the mission that she has, because
it changes several times as direction. So

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it' s all confusing and it' s weird. And until the end

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says ah Look at this it'
s about that he doesn' t have

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a spine, he doesn' t
have a central idea for which he contributes

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the main story, of course,
but also the secondary stories. So,

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that' s why it becomes confusing, it' s scattered. Yeah,

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that' s too bad, yeah, yeah, totally, well, there

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it is. I give him a
session Carlos Andrés, I agree with you,

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I would actually tell them, because
look at the experience that some platform

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arrives when they have a little bit
of sight if they want to and if

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not, because they can save it. I mean, it' s not

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like they' re missing anything either. Very special, not good. Now

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yes, then let' s go
to the next. Let' s go

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with the Amazon Prime Pacostanle series that
has just premiered today, where they tell

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how it was the last day in
Paco Stanley' s life through the views

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of the characters around Pacostanley, as
Mario Besar is, Jorge Gil Paula during

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and surely Paco himself will also have
his chapter. I guess you don'

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t have, yeah, but it' s a little bit. We saw.

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Jorge Gill and Mario Maria are the
first two hello. The next week

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we' re going to see Benito
which of Chiquito already leave us every end

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of episode shaping you the next.
Not sure, the next one is going

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to be Benito, then there will
be Brenda bren the wife of Mario,

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the wife of Mario then it will
be Paola, during and after the wife

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of Jorge gill No and the attorney
ah Samuel of the Villa O good to

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see. Besides, we' re
talking about this and I' m talking

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about the names of the real-
life characters. In other words, it

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should be noted that in the series
they were all changed so that there were

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no problems of lawsuits. All that
s orbs go to san change and change

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things like that, to get them. In fact, in order to talk

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about all this that happened without anyone
offending, without anyone getting angry, without

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anyone saying, They have no right
to spend my life and I will sue

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them. Mario Besares is suing them. Probably Well, he' s already

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threatened that if they' re finished, they won' t be sued.

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He' s probably gonna sue them
because they don' t have a right

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to his image. Because even though
they say it' s fiction, even

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though they changed everything so that they
didn' t know that zeal, so

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that yes, so that people don' t directly relate it and change its

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name and they don' t look
like the characters. For it is inevitable

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to see the character of Luis Gerard
Méndez playing Mario Besares and think Mira has

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his gestures that if he does May
you know in real life, one two

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looks at the best. Mario be
know did this maybe if he' s

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a bad person, maybe he'
s such, such, such? Tal?

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Tal? It is inevitable to think
about it, because the series yes,

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it is very well done, yes, the truth is that I think

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it is a surprise because it has
been a very very controversial series, very

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commented that was announced in the beginning, because obviously, the Mario and Paola

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themselves wanted to be their own series, they wanted to tell now yes,

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that it is their belity and not
this truth that they are with us good,

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it is true in quotation marks,
because they are not telling us the

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truth and they are very clear in
that. No. Then, obviously,

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when we begin to see the first
images, that the photographs and all these

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criticisms are similar, if not,
if the hair and so on, and

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since we see it, we realize
that it is intentional that they want to

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recreate the time, that they want, because they also show us a period

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and a dynamic of doing things that
was very different from what we see today.

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Something that hit me a little bit
at first is the dynamics I had

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for Costanley, to cause laughter,
was based on humiliation, bullying. Yeah,

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I' ll say a quote first, before I follow the style.

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Monse also told me it was just
that they' re recreating the time.

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But I say yes, but you
see wigs, that is, with everything

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they' re creating the time.
It feels a little exaggerated, if it

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has a tone of farce and is
on purpose, that is to say in

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the desire to recreate the time.
There is a tone of farce where the

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characters have these exaggerated features, where
they see the peucotas, where Diego de

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Diego Neta' s character plays Jorge
Gill, because it looks almost like he

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has protesis I don' t know
if he gained weight for the role,

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but it seems like the chistoncillos.
It' s very made- up and

414
00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:40.839
suddenly the hair is like in a
certain way looks fake everything, but I

415
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:44.079
think it is on purpose good.
I insist, it' s a tone

416
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:48.599
that means it' s a mix
of farce, crime and melodrama. Even

417
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:52.559
the cuts forgiveness, not the cuts, the auctions, in the dialogues,

418
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:56.359
because they are very telenoveleques, are
half cutres and also the aesthetic is a

419
00:30:56.400 --> 00:30:59.680
little bit or cuut if it is
from the nineties, but it is seen

420
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:04.039
in the middle with the broken grain, it looks like chafón. The music,

421
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:07.240
not the music of the singles that
pass, but the score, that

422
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:12.200
is, the incidental music, since
also estere novelesca. It' s all

423
00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:17.400
made to generate morbidness and they do
it very well and if you feel like

424
00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:19.000
following it. Seeing. And the
thing that it' s like in a

425
00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:23.519
pharsic tone is that the characters become
monstrous. Don' t women notice that

426
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:29.880
Jorge gin' s wife doesn'
t or clothes them don' t,

427
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:32.359
but they do suck, you say
what monsters this one is laughing at.

428
00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:34.960
You mean either, he' s
a horrible being. The mayobs ances character.

429
00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:38.920
This is also a traitor. It' s almost like if a dead

430
00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:42.039
fly, Jorge Hill' s character
ends up hating him. It' s

431
00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:48.319
so miserable, what a mean guy
the series has. And I understand why

432
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:51.599
Mario you know when watching the trailer, because he said if I' m

433
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:55.960
going to sue, I don'
t know if he saw anything else or

434
00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:56.359
just the trailer in the trailer doesn' t look that much. But now

435
00:31:56.440 --> 00:31:59.119
that you' re watching the show. If so, of children, if

436
00:31:59.279 --> 00:32:01.599
I think that they are horrible beings
and that it is a very horrible world

437
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:07.599
in which they were, because each
of the episodes let us see. This

438
00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:12.799
is going like in layers. We
don' t start with Jorge Gill'

439
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:19.279
s version and we' re joined
by Mario Besares, and each episode also

440
00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:22.200
raises a little bit about who this
character is, where it comes from,

441
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:24.839
what they' ve done. They
tell us, for example, that Jorge

442
00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:30.039
Gill had a bachelor' s degree, that he was looking more like an

443
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:34.599
investigative journalist, that Mario Besares wanted
to be a theater actor and so on.

444
00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:42.279
So they have that, they then
have this part of the relationship with

445
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:47.440
Pacostanley, what that was like,
and then the part as such of Pacostanle

446
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:52.400
' s death and everything that happens
and everything that goes around the chapters have

447
00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:57.799
a certain structure in that sense,
more or less similar, because in addition,

448
00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:05.119
we are seeing each of these characters
telling us their version of how the

449
00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:08.079
facts happened. But nothing else is
limited to that day, not but it

450
00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:14.319
gives us background. He tells us
what' s going on next and tells

451
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:19.960
us just how Jorge Gill' s
attention is moving to Mario Besares, and

452
00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:24.720
I imagine we' re going to
go with the rest of the characters and

453
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:31.039
how all these characters have things to
hide. Yeah, everybody' s hiding

454
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:35.519
something. If that' s interesting, I think there might be a twist

455
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:39.119
there if you can focus that the
bad guy is another and not like the

456
00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:44.200
story many times you think he can
be Mario It' s not like the

457
00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:46.640
ideal villain of this story for people
in general, even though I know that

458
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:52.400
everyone is court and didn' t
do anything, He' s already pleaded

459
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:54.759
innocent, but people still take him
as the villain. And in the series,

460
00:33:55.279 --> 00:34:00.000
because there is also another villain right
now, Jorge Gill, almost that

461
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:02.880
if we put back and because Jorge
is hiding nothing at best is pure resentment

462
00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:06.279
but he is hiding Mario, because
we don' t know, as you

463
00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:08.519
say maybe someone else' s ball
happens in the next episode. I think

464
00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:12.800
they' re going to go a
lot, because obviously they won' t

465
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:15.840
give us the answer. No one
has it, not exactly, but it

466
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:22.400
' s this working out who it
might be, why it might be,

467
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:27.880
and then we' re seeing how, because Jorge Gil incriminates Mario. Let

468
00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:30.880
' s say no or pay attention
to him or the chauffeur and we'

469
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:35.800
re also seeing even how, for
example, when they' re doing the

470
00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:37.719
recreation. He makes some comments about
the driver and the solicitor. No,

471
00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:44.039
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

472
00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:49.239
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

473
00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

474
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

475
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

476
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

477
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

478
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

479
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

480
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

481
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

482
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

483
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

484
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

485
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

486
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

487
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

488
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

489
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

490
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

491
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

492
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

493
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

494
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

495
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

496
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

497
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

498
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

499
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

500
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

501
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

502
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

503
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:49.920
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

504
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:51.079
no, no, no, no, no, no, I mean,

505
00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:53.239
they didn' t happen that way. Things really have elements that happened

506
00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:57.920
in reality, but they don'
t. The interaction of the characters did

507
00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:01.320
not happen this way because of the
motivations either, probably not what they felt

508
00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:05.239
either. But it' s inevitable. It' s very well done.

509
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:09.639
One two. It is inevitable that
they will soon be linked to the characters

510
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:13.239
of real life and that is devastating. I say poor of the people who

511
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:15.519
are seeing again poor Mario' s
release of his wife, poor family,

512
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:19.599
Jorge Gill, who more he disappeared, the one who disappeared from the middle,

513
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:24.719
that is to say how terrible Paula
during also is vote. I'

514
00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:28.320
ll relive this again that I have
to be at an event that maybe I

515
00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:30.719
want to go back to public life
and there' s gonna be some slugs

516
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:35.519
with a tape recorder, like that
with iPhone, now with a little microphone.

517
00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:38.039
And they started asking the same thing
as always what I think about the

518
00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:45.320
series, what happened, what horror
it' s going to be interesting to

519
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:47.639
see what' s going on with
the demands and so on, because the

520
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:53.480
series, obviously, the first thing
they do is put a disclaimer, not

521
00:35:53.519 --> 00:36:00.800
where they just tell us is inspired
by real events, places and characters have

522
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:01.760
been taken to fiction, so,
they put it there. This is fiction.

523
00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:07.480
Then they tell you that, for
the purpose of representing one of the

524
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:13.760
most controversial cases, but it says
to represent, that is, words are

525
00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:19.559
very key, very careful. Yes, very careful. They just say also

526
00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:22.800
that to present a dramatized version.
And the part that catches my attention the

527
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:28.599
most is that they put you in
the end. The legal truth of this

528
00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:35.840
story is recorded in the official records
and the respective judicial decisions, not in

529
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:39.360
the series. Of course they do, they protect themselves, but anyway,

530
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:44.760
well, Mario' s lawyers said
that because it' s So I finally

531
00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:45.760
know, So it' s being
referenced, So, even though they say

532
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:49.280
it' s fiction, etcéte,
et cetera, et cetera, et cetera?

533
00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:52.599
Well, yes, it' s
clear they' re talking about Mario

534
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:55.920
Betanz and yes, it' s
inevitable to think about it, it'

535
00:36:55.920 --> 00:36:57.159
s inevitable to tie him up,
even to say he hears what. If

536
00:36:57.280 --> 00:37:00.880
yes, because one gets carried away
by the tab, then it should not

537
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:02.880
be easy and to see what judges
resolve, to see how the series is

538
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:09.639
doing. I feel that it can
generate a lot, a lot of conversation

539
00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:15.360
in networks and it is okay that
it does so as long as we have

540
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:17.599
a good premise, that is,
closing a premise, be good the truth

541
00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:21.960
of this premise, be good at
the end, I think what we were

542
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:25.639
saying is that it is just a
pretext to pack it to tell us a

543
00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:31.360
sordid world of television, of how
desires move, desires of power, passions,

544
00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:34.199
etcetera. The low passions, et
cetera, et cetera, et cetera?

545
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:37.280
No, I think you can go
that way Let' s see how

546
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:42.519
they work out. Yeah, because
this is entertainment, it' s morbid

547
00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:49.199
going around right now I think Mario' s possibility and now there' s

548
00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:52.920
no lawyer here. It' ll
be nice to ask some lawyer, because

549
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:55.320
I don' t think they can
leave about whether they' re telling the

550
00:37:55.320 --> 00:38:00.719
truth or not. But I think
they could go about that realitymis and yes,

551
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:06.880
today I was listening to Brenda b
Sares and it' s just what

552
00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:10.239
you' re mentioning and she was
saying is that again. And now it

553
00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:14.639
must be fiant. It was horrible, now it must be worse, because

554
00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:21.280
now we have social networks. No
and then we have people writing and accusing

555
00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:27.920
us and telling us a series of
things I think that there is the core

556
00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:30.760
of the complicated, because, as
you well say, although here is Mario

557
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:37.119
Rodríguez, for example, if I
remember correctly, it is like Lec Mario

558
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:42.519
Rodríguez, because we all know who
they refer to, because it is not

559
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:46.519
even there, if we think of
the Gloria Trevi series that Way had many

560
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:51.039
elements of many characters that were very
clear. There were so many others that,

561
00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:52.719
as you said, it may be
this one for this, but it

562
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:57.000
may be this one. That'
s why they were mixed up with the

563
00:38:57.199 --> 00:39:01.280
solicitor only here, because the solicitor, if the solicitor comes, is also

564
00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:06.719
a little bit. The Head of
Government is also a little bit more responsible

565
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:10.239
for the investigation. In other words, they cover their backs even more,

566
00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:16.320
so that they do not touch calluses
in certain areas that would be more delicate.

567
00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:21.039
No, but yes, I mean
that part, of course I understand

568
00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:24.280
them. It must be awful that
you want to leave this episode of your

569
00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:30.960
life behind and go on and on
because it' s been twenty- five

570
00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:32.280
years, this was the ninety-
nine. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

571
00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:36.880
twenty- five years and you can' t get it off his back.

572
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:42.320
He' s strong and yes,
the media won' t let him and

573
00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:44.599
I say I work there. I
could say we didn' t let him

574
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:45.599
either that I grabbed the subject and
took it out whenever I could. But

575
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:50.199
yes, he is spoken of.
It' s media and we' re

576
00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:53.280
all involved there. Yeah, it' s not easy, it' s

577
00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:55.400
not easy for them anymore they didn' t want to talk about this.

578
00:39:55.559 --> 00:40:01.039
But well, so life or chie
life, because it returns it over and

579
00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:07.440
over again is that same scenario.
Maybe they shouldn' t talk about it

580
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:09.599
if they didn' t think so, because they' re taking some of

581
00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:13.199
the game away from us. Sure. The other question is Mario kissing It

582
00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:16.119
' s going to enter the house
of the celebrities, so son him there

583
00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:20.679
also helps him a little to negotiate. That' s right, that'

584
00:40:20.679 --> 00:40:22.519
s right. I' ve been
saying that too, mons That' s

585
00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:25.960
how it can be. Maybe it
helps him negotiate one two I don'

586
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:30.360
t know carlos before. I don' t know if he' s gonna

587
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:35.280
be able to congratulate people. I
mean, I don' t know,

588
00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:38.440
I mean, I liked him on
the show with Pacco and that Joker and

589
00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:42.639
everything and he just never saw him
on a show, just when he had

590
00:40:42.760 --> 00:40:45.519
him on his show, because I
didn' t see him anymore and he

591
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:47.199
didn' t really track him.
I mean, everything you remember when I

592
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:52.360
was with Paco and I liked him, he was funny, but I don

593
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:54.960
' t know the real- life
mario that' s out there exposing at

594
00:40:55.079 --> 00:41:02.880
the celebrity house anymore. I don' t know if being labeled unfairly as

595
00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:07.519
you want on social networks like the
villain, well, yeah, let'

596
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:09.840
s just not say. The truth
is that the house of celebrities is a

597
00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:15.760
double- edged weapon yes, we
do not know what will come out of

598
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:21.800
the person, whether a demon or
an angel, whether it will benefit them

599
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:27.480
or harm them, regardless of whether
they charge right or wrong, or good

600
00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:30.360
and better, because, then,
they pay them well and they have that

601
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:34.840
exposure. But woe therefore, yes, yes, yes, as it is,

602
00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:37.639
we have seen many entering into the
house of the famous; for this

603
00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:42.079
is that the fame already knows what
they speak of you, even if it

604
00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:45.599
is evil, for today. I
think it' s a little relative.

605
00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:46.760
Well, you' d better talk
about IT than not talk about IT.

606
00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:52.679
But I don' t know if
you want them to talk about you that

607
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:54.360
way later. No, I don' t. No. Anyway, how

608
00:41:54.440 --> 00:42:00.000
complicated, very complicated, let'
s see what wave we' ll see

609
00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:04.960
in the series and we' ll
be talking about the series of the next

610
00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:07.840
two episodes. Well, all right, then. Hey, thanks for being

611
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:10.360
here. Carlos, thank you so
much for participating in this show. Thank

612
00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:15.199
you very much, no thanks.
And well follow Carlos Andrésmendulen, Carlos Andrés

613
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:21.400
Mendiola on Facebook and Carlos A Mendiola
on Twitter and Instagram, Sorry on Instagram,

614
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:24.920
not on Instagram, but it wasn' t Twitter, t Twitter,

615
00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:30.840
not on Instagram and Tiktok, sorry
Carlos Ameno on Instagram and Tiktok and Carlos

616
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:35.760
Andrés Mendiola on Facebook and also on
YouTube. He' s like Carlos to

617
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:39.239
Mendiola. They can follow it everywhere
and thanks to the people who were here

618
00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:43.679
with us, José Fausto pon can
follow me Fausto Arroba, Fausto ponce on

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00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:47.559
Twitter, on Instagram, Arova,
Fausto pons official on Facebook. Thank you

620
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:58.360
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Sounds. If you want to make a

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podcast or musicalize multimedia content, sound
a movie or a play or make a

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jingle, go to outlos comm

