WEBVTT 1 00:00:34.840 --> 00:00:38.039 Hello, Welcome to a Game Spot after Dark episode two hundred and eleven. 2 00:00:38.159 --> 00:00:41.000 I'm your host to more saying, definitely doing this for the first time and 3 00:00:41.079 --> 00:00:44.439 the first time only definitely did not have my computer crash earlier and have to 4 00:00:44.479 --> 00:00:49.759 start all over again. I'm joined by Lucy James. Hello again for the 5 00:00:49.799 --> 00:00:55.119 first time and the one and only channel choa. Hello, my name is 6 00:00:55.240 --> 00:00:59.399 Jake, that's my first name. Obviously redoing a bit that there is no 7 00:00:59.679 --> 00:01:04.120 law the either. We did an old and rain, old people voice, 8 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:08.760 Lucy, can you give us your old personal voice again? All of these 9 00:01:10.120 --> 00:01:14.519 No, that was a cockney. All of these moments will be lost in 10 00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:19.400 time, like tears and rain. That's really good. That's good. That 11 00:01:19.480 --> 00:01:26.000 was good. Everyone is on assignment today, so we begged Jan to join 12 00:01:26.079 --> 00:01:30.079 us, and he deemed us worthy enough to grace the Game Spot after Dark 13 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:34.200 podcast. Jan was the other way around. I have been looking over all 14 00:01:34.239 --> 00:01:38.680 the train footage and it was like I missed them. Train gang, train 15 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:44.200 Gang, train gang. Very excited to see that. Yeah, you've been 16 00:01:44.200 --> 00:01:46.799 working on this for a bit. How close are we to train blog? 17 00:01:47.480 --> 00:01:52.760 I'm hoping by the time folks are listening to this, probably when this comes 18 00:01:52.760 --> 00:01:57.879 out. Oh nice to cat giant Bomb on YouTube or giant bomb dot com 19 00:01:57.920 --> 00:02:02.400 to see that video. Jan, you've been playing Cyberpunk. Yes, I've 20 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:07.359 been playing Cyberpunk and i've been This is the first time I've been checking out 21 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:13.439 I didn't. I think everyone saying it was terrible when it initially released terrified 22 00:02:13.479 --> 00:02:15.319 me. So I decided to wait. And then I thought about getting into 23 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:22.319 it during the pandemic, but then Matthew Rory was complaining about his whole existence 24 00:02:22.360 --> 00:02:24.800 with Cyberpunk, so I thought, all right, I'll just I'll just keep 25 00:02:24.879 --> 00:02:30.199 waiting, and then two Point dropped, Phantom Liberty eventually dropped, so I 26 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:36.199 decided no better time to check out Cyberpunk than now. I'm enjoying my time 27 00:02:36.199 --> 00:02:38.280 with it because I can just straight up punch people, and it is viable 28 00:02:38.360 --> 00:02:45.240 to punch people, unlike other games, namely Starfield. Yeah, have that, 29 00:02:45.319 --> 00:02:47.879 Todd Howard. Did you guys see the live action launch trailer with Intus 30 00:02:47.879 --> 00:02:53.199 Alba, Rob and I were talking about the very last thing he says is 31 00:02:53.240 --> 00:03:00.000 the game is fixed. Oh my god, that's love it. Genius. 32 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:04.400 What background did you pick? Oh? Shoot, I think I picked the 33 00:03:04.479 --> 00:03:07.879 middle one or the streets one street Kid street Kid, Yes, because I 34 00:03:07.759 --> 00:03:16.560 identified with the street Kid. I feel like I should have made a lady 35 00:03:16.719 --> 00:03:23.639 or a female presenting person because I've heard the voice actor is ever so slightly 36 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:30.960 stronger the female voice actor. It's Makoto from Persona five Nuts. Yeah, 37 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:36.439 how far in are you? Can you? And she's very good time, 38 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:42.439 like maybe like three hours in. It wouldn't be the worst to like restart, 39 00:03:42.479 --> 00:03:45.479 I guess, because it's not a lot of that. It's it is 40 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:47.599 a slow start, so I could just skip through a lot of that. 41 00:03:49.159 --> 00:03:52.639 Yeah, I guess. Yeah, Okay. Also, I mean street Kid, 42 00:03:52.879 --> 00:03:54.520 I so I did street Kid. When I replayed it recently, I 43 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:58.919 was like, I forgot how short those intros are, Like I remember Corpo 44 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:02.680 being prief one or at least like good vibes in the Corporate one, Like 45 00:04:02.759 --> 00:04:09.800 the vibes were very on point. But yeah, I mean it gets experienced 46 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:11.879 more. I think No Mad, No Mad is where you can go and 47 00:04:11.919 --> 00:04:19.000 meet Alana Pierce oh need. Yeah yeah, okay check that out. Yeah 48 00:04:19.079 --> 00:04:21.480 yeah. I've been playing a bunch of the games. There's so many games 49 00:04:21.879 --> 00:04:26.120 right now, or so many games that we have right now that are just 50 00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:29.439 taking up so much time. But I've been playing a bunch of that game 51 00:04:29.480 --> 00:04:31.800 as well. I've now got to the point where I can double jump and 52 00:04:31.879 --> 00:04:36.399 dash without it consuming any stamina, and I move faster than most cars. 53 00:04:38.959 --> 00:04:43.480 Yeah, I can just go mate A whole world lies before you. I 54 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:47.560 don't even get into vehicles anymore because I'm faster than vehicles. I'm fastest boy. 55 00:04:47.519 --> 00:04:51.399 Yes, I'm like climbing buildings. I'm like I was chasing a car 56 00:04:51.800 --> 00:04:57.279 on foot recently in a real life. Yeah. And then I came home 57 00:04:57.319 --> 00:05:00.720 and I played Cyberpunk and did the same same. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 58 00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:05.040 I finished it on Monday, and John Luke told me before they went 59 00:05:05.079 --> 00:05:11.680 away to plug the Phantom Liberty spoiler cast that's going up this weekend. I 60 00:05:11.720 --> 00:05:15.759 think it's John Luke, Michael and Jake, and I think it's a pretty 61 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:18.480 beefy one. So if you finished the main campaign for it, definitely check 62 00:05:18.560 --> 00:05:26.240 that out. It'll be alive on this podcast feed. Yeah. But everything 63 00:05:26.240 --> 00:05:30.199 I've played at that game is exceptional, you know. It's it's it's somehow 64 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:35.839 still popular to shop on Cyberpunk or like say, CD Project don't deserve the 65 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:42.319 kind of praise that they're getting now, but I'm above all that. Good 66 00:05:42.360 --> 00:05:46.720 games a good game the studio. Sure it had a rough start, but 67 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:49.680 it never it owned up for it, owned up to it for the most 68 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:55.680 part, and has done right by the team. I think the big question 69 00:05:55.879 --> 00:06:00.040 was, like, will they be able to recover from this and established themselves 70 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:05.680 as one of the premier RPG makers in the world after the amazing work they 71 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:10.079 did with Witcher, and I feel like they are fully back in that position 72 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:14.639 now. Yeah. I feel like the Netflix show also helped change like the 73 00:06:14.680 --> 00:06:18.720 public perception of Cyberpunk twenty seventy seven. I thought, you're referring to the 74 00:06:18.759 --> 00:06:23.240 Witcher. Then I was like, I don't think that changed anyone's minds about 75 00:06:23.279 --> 00:06:30.000 shit. That show is bad, but yeah, yeah, very good. 76 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:33.160 Have you seen Eddrons? I have not seen any Edge Runners. I seen. 77 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:38.560 Oh you should. You should definitely watch it, especially if you're playing 78 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:44.920 the game, because it does they have After after the success of edge ron 79 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:48.480 Is, they went back in and putting stuff from the show to be like 80 00:06:48.680 --> 00:06:54.279 Easter eggs to it, but also like there's I don't remember in the original 81 00:06:54.399 --> 00:07:00.079 version, Lucy, was cyber psychosis a thing not for your character? You 82 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:05.519 would encounter cyberpsychos, so they were a cy again side activity thing. Yeah, 83 00:07:05.519 --> 00:07:09.560 so that's like cyber psychosis is one of the key plot points for that 84 00:07:09.879 --> 00:07:13.879 show. And now it's like a thing, a mechanical almost in how you 85 00:07:13.959 --> 00:07:16.879 upgrade and stuff like that. So it is, it is. I think 86 00:07:16.920 --> 00:07:21.759 I would describe it as essential viewing if you're playing okay, okay, cyber 87 00:07:21.800 --> 00:07:27.040 punk and it's not too long as well. Yeah, ten episodes, they're 88 00:07:27.120 --> 00:07:30.920 very good. I got the book as well. I got CDPR sent me 89 00:07:30.959 --> 00:07:34.839 a copy of No Coincidence, which I don't know how that ties in, 90 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:39.879 but you can see it because it's bright yellow on my shelf. But I 91 00:07:39.879 --> 00:07:42.759 want to give that a read. I'm very cyberpunk pilled at the moment. 92 00:07:43.399 --> 00:07:47.759 I also am trying to furiously work through that game because, as as we 93 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:51.319 all know, a delusion of games coming out, because I want to get 94 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:59.319 to Phantom Liberty because I want to see the Homie the Sphere Hunter a vo 95 00:07:59.480 --> 00:08:01.240 in this game. And I was like, oh, I'm super proud. 96 00:08:01.240 --> 00:08:07.120 Is very good. Yeah, she's really good. The model is based on 97 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:11.800 Susie as well. Yeah, it's it's a spice yeah. Yeah, and 98 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:16.920 like it's like an extremely good performance as well, which is it's good to 99 00:08:16.360 --> 00:08:20.480 have as well. Yeah, that's one of my favorite side quests because it's 100 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:24.319 very funny. It's very whole quest, and the way you meet her for 101 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:28.480 the first time is like really funny. Yeah, you can find her very 102 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:35.200 early on. Okay, how many hours into you are you cyberpunk? Yeah, 103 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:39.679 well so I'm starting from the very beginning, so about like three sh 104 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:45.840 hours, so I think it's like around ten hours in you get like the 105 00:08:45.960 --> 00:08:50.200 call to do the phantom Liberty stuff, so okay, cool, you can 106 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:54.440 plug plug through that. If you focus on main quest, you should get 107 00:08:54.480 --> 00:08:56.799 there fairly. Okay. Yeah, I think I'm just going to stick to 108 00:08:56.840 --> 00:09:01.039 the main quest line for now and just maybe of actually do another run with 109 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:03.879 all the side stuff. Yeah you should. I mean, there are definitely 110 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:09.639 some side quests you should definitely prioritize. If if Cinnamon comes through, we 111 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:13.480 should do that one. What is the like the surveillance one, that one's 112 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:16.759 so good, the one with like the rich couple. Yeah, yeah, 113 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:20.639 I can't remember what it is. I'll look it up after this, but 114 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:24.960 I'm one of the I'm a cyberpunk defender because and I feel bad about it 115 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:28.360 because I didn't have a bad time playing it is in I didn't have many 116 00:09:28.360 --> 00:09:31.600 crashes when it came out because I played a PS four disc version on a 117 00:09:31.600 --> 00:09:37.320 PlayStation five, and so my experience was pretty smooth. To be honest, 118 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:43.159 obviously, I empathize and sympathize with people who did not have that experience, 119 00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:48.759 and so it's been very nice for me to revisit and play again and have 120 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:52.840 this new wrinkle to it in terms of new content and an overhaul of the 121 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:58.080 systems. It feels like a new game. Yeah, yeah, I'm slowly 122 00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:01.720 making my wait, I've stopped to do side question now. The gigs in 123 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:09.320 Phantom Libby are extremely good, like weirdly good. And our friend Alex Jordan, 124 00:10:09.799 --> 00:10:13.480 a friend of the show, is the new voice of mister Hands, 125 00:10:13.559 --> 00:10:18.080 who's one of the fixes that hits you. His performance also incredible. It 126 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:22.279 doesn't sound like Alex at all. I was like, where the hell did 127 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:26.960 that American accent come from? Because he's British. Yeah, he's extremely British. 128 00:10:28.159 --> 00:10:31.279 Y'all. Y'all just get a handle on doing American accents better than Americans. 129 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:37.679 I mean, like he's I mean, there's one British person that isn't 130 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:43.559 doing a great American accent in that game. Oh that is sadly well. 131 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:46.080 The thing is is that he does do a good American accent and he does 132 00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:50.039 do a good British accent, but unfortunately he does both of them in the 133 00:10:50.039 --> 00:10:54.679 same sentence. Cool. It's like, what's the space you don't worry darling? 134 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:58.279 Oh, you know, I don't know what you're supposed to sound like 135 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:01.919 Lucy wait who? And don't worry darling. I haven't seen it hairy style. 136 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:07.120 Oh, I got very cool up in spit Gate, but I never 137 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:11.080 watched don't worry darling because you can keep it that way, yeah, keep 138 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:13.799 it that way. Yeah, like yeah, but I do love I do 139 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:20.679 love the pew hm pew pew anything else that you're checking out, jen, 140 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:22.600 Oh, Tam, you would be so proud of me. Are you Readyboddy? 141 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:28.240 I hunkered down this past weekend. I barely get a full day to 142 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:33.080 play video games, but I vegged out and I was was. I specifically 143 00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:43.600 set out that date to make Tam proud because I completed lies of pell I 144 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:46.840 tapped in, I got into the Tam zone and then I beat it, 145 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:50.879 and I'm like I was shaking afterwards of like, wait, did I did 146 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:54.279 I beat one? Did I did I beat finish a game? I finished 147 00:11:54.279 --> 00:11:58.480 a game? How long did it take you all in? Do you think 148 00:11:58.559 --> 00:12:01.639 I haven't started it? Yeah, I've got it, but I haven't started 149 00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:03.919 it yet. So last week I was being a little bit naughty and I 150 00:12:03.960 --> 00:12:09.320 was playing it when I should have been editing several videos. But hey, 151 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:15.240 i'll tell yo Janita, I don't okay, I guess that's backlar, but 152 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:20.000 whatever, that's fine, And you know, to be fair of the Amtrak 153 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:28.320 the train video is kind of evergreen anyway, And uh so I was slacking 154 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:31.039 off on the actual job playing video games, which is also part of the 155 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:35.639 job. Yeah, and I had gone through like a good chunk of the 156 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:41.559 game last week during the during the work week, and then maybe, I 157 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:46.799 want to say, maybe like forty ish hours in total. I spent a 158 00:12:46.799 --> 00:12:52.360 couple of nights also playing it overnight on on this and everything, but Saturday, 159 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:58.360 plugged in and just got in there like swimwear and yo, y'all. 160 00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:05.840 The after credit scene absolutely wild. No, no, I don't want to 161 00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:09.440 spoil it. Did Russell Crowe say that he's here? And he's finding and 162 00:13:09.559 --> 00:13:16.559 talking univers you know it is not dissimilar from them. Are you joking? 163 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:20.679 Oh my god? Is it fucking witty the poop? I can't, I 164 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:24.600 can't, I cannot, I cannot something else has gone into the public domain. 165 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:26.559 If it's witty the pooh, I'm gonna lose my ship. You should. 166 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:31.840 You should play it because everyone, if you speak to them, they'll 167 00:13:31.840 --> 00:13:35.360 tell you this. Yeah. Wild. But I really liked it a lot, 168 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:39.200 you know, I wound up walking away from like uh when I did 169 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:43.600 the blood Born identity on Giant Bomb during the early parts of the pandemic, 170 00:13:43.759 --> 00:13:48.240 really enjoying Blood Born and elden Ring was an amazing game. I think we 171 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:52.320 awarded a Game of the Year, of course, but there are parts of 172 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:54.840 it that I think just didn't click with me, and I wish i'd finish 173 00:13:54.879 --> 00:14:00.600 secy Row, but time got away from me that I kind of wanted a 174 00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:03.159 combination of something like Seciro and Bloodborn, and that's kind of what lies of 175 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:07.559 p is there. There's a couple places where the game falls short, like 176 00:14:07.559 --> 00:14:13.360 I wish the dodge role for the Dodge in general was better than it actually 177 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:18.559 is. It leaves a lot to be desired. The Perry Windows still incredibly 178 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:24.679 frustrating that there are instances where I completely just gave up on trying to properly 179 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:28.120 Perry. Yeah. I never got I've only played the demo, and the 180 00:14:28.159 --> 00:14:31.240 Parry Window for me was like, no idea when I'm supposed to be going 181 00:14:31.240 --> 00:14:35.159 here. Yeah, it feels every time you do it, it feels like 182 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:39.320 you did it wrong, which is the worst. Yeah, it's one of 183 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:43.559 the major issues that I have with that game. I think it's great in 184 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:48.200 almost every respect, but I just feel like the party is off. Yeah, 185 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:52.440 yeah, it is. It doesn't feel like you can build a skill 186 00:14:52.519 --> 00:14:56.720 based understanding or like a muscle memory to it where your instinct is enough. 187 00:14:56.279 --> 00:15:00.360 You always have to be like hoping for the best that you timed right, 188 00:15:00.960 --> 00:15:05.279 which some of the enemies like you if you're trying to just track the animation, 189 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:11.519 like there's always a little pause before they actually hit, And I understand 190 00:15:11.559 --> 00:15:15.360 that that's there to throw off the player, but I think it just became 191 00:15:15.480 --> 00:15:18.919 frustrating after a while. Yeah. I think the thing they get most of 192 00:15:20.279 --> 00:15:26.159 the Bloodborne stuff pretty right in their own respect. I think that the lesson 193 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:31.559 they didn't learn from the Securo element is securos as much a rhythm game as 194 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:35.840 it is as an action game. So yeah, that is how like the 195 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:41.840 counter system or the parry timing, and Securo is a rhythmic to like a 196 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:46.200 very noticeable degree, whereas hey, they're just trying to make you parry single 197 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:50.279 attacks in a very like mechanicals way. Tim, I don't know if you 198 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:56.000 saw this floating around online, but I did see this tip that I wound 199 00:15:56.080 --> 00:15:58.840 up just applying, And I don't know if it was just like a mental 200 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:03.480 thing assuming that it was working. But you know in SECONDO where you you 201 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:07.360 tap to do the perry, right, it's very reactionary. Yeah, I 202 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:12.679 saw someone saying the it is easier to perry if you tap and hold versus 203 00:16:12.720 --> 00:16:18.519 like tap tap tap in second in wise of p to like, I feel 204 00:16:18.519 --> 00:16:26.519 like you're bracing for it rather than reacting to it. And I took that, 205 00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:29.759 and then at least in my head it felt like it was working. 206 00:16:29.799 --> 00:16:33.080 But I don't know. If I was just telling myself it was working, 207 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:37.200 I wouldn't be getting the red sparks perfect perry, yeah, but I'd still 208 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:41.039 be tanking the damage. Yeah, I think like the biggest tip I'd give 209 00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:45.200 people. It's just like the backstep. It's got a crazy amount of invincibility 210 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:51.240 for just just keep backstepping all the time. The especially with like the human 211 00:16:51.320 --> 00:16:55.840 sized enemies, like you can just tide around and back steps so easy. 212 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:57.799 Yeah yeah, yeah, but yeah, it's good game, good game, 213 00:16:57.879 --> 00:17:02.200 great, great game. I think I think it's probably going to be maybe 214 00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:06.200 ten on my list this year. M I think it's going to be pretty 215 00:17:06.240 --> 00:17:08.920 high on mine. I'm not sure where yet, but it's going to be 216 00:17:08.920 --> 00:17:17.400 an interesting time. Uh yeah, anything else? I have it here and 217 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:22.000 no one audio listeners cannot see this, but I bought, I bought, 218 00:17:22.440 --> 00:17:26.079 and I've been playing Wingspan virtually every other night. What is it, Lucy? 219 00:17:26.119 --> 00:17:30.759 I think you'd enjoy it already. I already told you that we're playing. 220 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:34.000 I'm just knowing. I mean, yeah, we have so many board 221 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:37.319 games that we say that we're going to play that we have not played a 222 00:17:37.359 --> 00:17:41.839 single bloody one. Yo. I'm a Wingspan expert now, so throw me 223 00:17:41.880 --> 00:17:45.920 in, coach. Yeah, let's do it competitive medium weight card driven an 224 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:52.279 engine building board game. Yes, yes, I put in one of our 225 00:17:52.319 --> 00:17:56.079 group threads. Do you guys like birds? And everyone's very confused. The 226 00:17:56.640 --> 00:18:02.680 on ramp to learning the game is a little bit involved, but once you 227 00:18:02.720 --> 00:18:06.880 get going and fall into the rhythm of it, games do go buy super 228 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:11.200 can't have the potential to go buy super quick. I'm just playing with Emmy 229 00:18:11.359 --> 00:18:14.880 and I, so we're just doing two people. So I'm assuming that's why 230 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:18.400 the speed of the game is a little bit faster. But for folks who 231 00:18:18.440 --> 00:18:23.400 want to check it out, I highly suggest also downloading the There's a kind 232 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:29.480 of like an accompaniment app because if you scan your cards, it also plays 233 00:18:29.519 --> 00:18:36.359 specific thank you. It also plays specific bird sounds associated with the specific cards. 234 00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:40.519 It's cute. So if you like, oh, here's this wild turkey 235 00:18:40.559 --> 00:18:45.119 that is indigenous to North America, you scan it and then I'll start playing 236 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:48.279 turkey sounds, which is fun. I like that. I like that a 237 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:52.960 lot. What drinks did you get? It is basically an Arnold Palmer Oh 238 00:18:56.319 --> 00:19:00.119 yeah, I'm Johnna Plan looking at the website now. It's It's also really 239 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:03.759 involved. It's also one of those board games, similar to like Catan, 240 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:07.279 where the folks that have really dived into the board game and made it their 241 00:19:07.319 --> 00:19:14.759 personality have started selling artisan containers for all of the bits and pieces in this 242 00:19:14.839 --> 00:19:18.720 game. It's it's another one of those games like Ticket to Ride and Catan 243 00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:22.960 where there are a lot of literal moving parts to it. Their website, 244 00:19:22.960 --> 00:19:32.079 it's very wholesome because all of the comments are applied to by uh but Stone 245 00:19:32.079 --> 00:19:37.039 Stone maya Games. I think this guy runs this website, Like, yeah, 246 00:19:37.240 --> 00:19:41.200 maybe they published the games. Yeah, I think they. Whatever it 247 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:44.440 is intens to all of the all of the comments have been applied to. 248 00:19:44.480 --> 00:19:47.720 It's very cute. Did you say that it comes with the digital version? 249 00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:51.839 It doesn't come with a digital version. At least the copy that I bought 250 00:19:52.119 --> 00:19:56.799 had a coupon code for the Steam version. Nice. Yeah, I have 251 00:19:56.799 --> 00:20:03.000 an open mind yet I don't know why, but I'm gonna play. It's 252 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:07.359 out of the board games that I've bought and actually played, which is not 253 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:12.000 a lot. It's it is really fun. It's I don't want to say 254 00:20:12.039 --> 00:20:17.680 it's addicting, because it may just be because of recency bias, but I 255 00:20:17.720 --> 00:20:21.880 do enjoy playing it a lot. There It's lighthearted strategy, and I think 256 00:20:21.920 --> 00:20:26.480 if you have someone that already knows how to play it is easier than trying 257 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:30.599 to read through the instructions and whatnot. Yeah, I got the I found 258 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:36.680 the blood Borne board game card game in my local thrift shop a couple of 259 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:44.839 weeks ago for eleven dollars. Oh, pretty good bargain for a game that 260 00:20:44.960 --> 00:20:48.960 will never play, But you know I want to play it, Lucy, 261 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:56.000 what else have you been playing? I can't tell you. I'm embargoed. 262 00:20:56.279 --> 00:20:59.880 Actually no, I can tell you, but I can do one of those 263 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:03.960 shitty I have the game. You can hear my impressions on this day tweet, 264 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:07.720 which I'm not going to do. So I genuinely haven't been doing anything 265 00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:12.759 else other than finishing Phantom Liberty. I've basically have been. I put like 266 00:21:12.799 --> 00:21:18.039 twenty four hours into that game over the last week and a half since you 267 00:21:18.079 --> 00:21:22.440 go back from LA and I had a great time. But now I've moved 268 00:21:22.599 --> 00:21:26.799 on. Oh. I did start Quantum Break again, well for the first 269 00:21:26.799 --> 00:21:30.160 time. Actually, I started playing Quantum Break to prepare myself for Alan Wake 270 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:37.400 two, and that game is broke as hell on PC. Sadly, I'm 271 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:41.240 gonna have to download it on Xbox to get through. Actually, how long 272 00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:48.359 to beat I want to beat Quantum Break? Oh? Hours? Yes, 273 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:53.240 oh ten hours, bless you. That's all I want. It wasn't originally 274 00:21:53.319 --> 00:21:56.079 much longer because you had to watch a half an hour TV show in between 275 00:21:56.079 --> 00:22:02.039 every chapter. So oh yeah, that's They're not on my PC version, 276 00:22:02.119 --> 00:22:03.119 or at least, like I think, I have to go into a different 277 00:22:03.119 --> 00:22:07.319 place on the Xbox Store and get it on my PC. So I'm just 278 00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:10.880 going to download them and then they're all on newtubes so you can just watch 279 00:22:10.920 --> 00:22:12.839 them there. Well, in on the Xbox version, apparently they're all like 280 00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:18.559 interspliced in against That's fine, okay, what's cool. But yeah, unfortunately 281 00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:22.680 I'm in the same situation where I've been playing a bunch of games that we 282 00:22:22.759 --> 00:22:27.960 can't talk about for various reasons, those reasons being embargoes. But it's a 283 00:22:27.960 --> 00:22:33.480 lot of exciting discussions to be had in the near future. I think like 284 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:37.039 a lot of us are like bracing foot end of the Year and Game of 285 00:22:37.039 --> 00:22:38.559 the Year stuff right now, where we're trying to play new stuff, but 286 00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:42.599 also are in just like in the peripheral vision in the corner of ours, 287 00:22:42.640 --> 00:22:45.920 we can see all the games that we need to play before Game of the 288 00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:49.960 Years, so we can have like intelligent discussions around them. So, like 289 00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:55.200 I think I'm going to try and play some of those as soon as possible. 290 00:22:55.440 --> 00:22:59.119 Like Cocoon reviews are now up and they're like, oh is literally I 291 00:22:59.279 --> 00:23:06.000 literally just Cocoon because I want to play that so badly. Yo. Uh, 292 00:23:06.599 --> 00:23:08.799 review embargoes up so I can talk about all right, yeah it's tomorrow, 293 00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:12.599 I believe. So yeah, yeah, the embargoes around. It's all 294 00:23:12.680 --> 00:23:18.039 up. Yeah, absolutely, we give you a nine out of ten. 295 00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:22.240 Absolutely fantastic puzzle game, y'all. Like it's also very linear, so no 296 00:23:22.359 --> 00:23:26.799 need to worry about straying off the beaten path too far that you waste a 297 00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:30.759 lot of time. Uh. It is like I was talking about this with 298 00:23:32.200 --> 00:23:34.960 Turbo Sean from Who Helps Out? Who Helps Us Out? A giant bomb. 299 00:23:37.759 --> 00:23:45.200 It's like bio organic punk. M yeah, all bugs, not specifically 300 00:23:45.279 --> 00:23:49.480 bugs, but it is is very clever sound design, absolutely fantastic. I 301 00:23:51.559 --> 00:23:53.799 call it insect punk. Oh I like that too, bug punk. It's 302 00:23:53.839 --> 00:23:59.839 like it's like if everyone just became Cayman Riders. It's pronounced coming. I 303 00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:02.799 heard someone say came in, and then I thought I was wrong. That 304 00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:11.759 was coming Motherfudgers gets yeah, but I think it also it works perfectly on 305 00:24:11.079 --> 00:24:17.319 steam Deck and rock Alli so it's a good in bed game, which is 306 00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:22.720 how I'm playing it. Mostly. It's nice you guys strap the headphones in 307 00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:26.720 because like it could audience one of those like oh yeah, plug plug me 308 00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:30.960 in. I went old man Jan again there, Yeah, maybe that's just 309 00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:36.240 maybe that's just Jerome. Yeah also a ton that guy. It's like we 310 00:24:36.279 --> 00:24:40.920 have Dan and Chris, now we've got Jan and Jerome. Oh man, 311 00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:45.920 damn. Yeah. So I've been playing mostly that. I've been reading a 312 00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:53.079 book. You heard you heard of those? Do you know? Tune and 313 00:24:53.319 --> 00:25:00.039 fair Weather. I believe they're called they they very like they're an Irish publisher, 314 00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:04.839 but they do like super high end. If you just google Tune and 315 00:25:04.920 --> 00:25:07.799 fair With and go to a website and look at the books, you will 316 00:25:07.839 --> 00:25:15.599 see just how high end we're talking is wild. But last year I ordered 317 00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:23.200 a book which is basically a two two book collection on the mythology of dark 318 00:25:23.240 --> 00:25:30.240 souls, and I also have the Blood Worn one coming. They're about one 319 00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:37.279 hundred dollars each and it is it is incredible like that, it's I'm like 320 00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:41.720 over the moon that I got them because there's such high quality. There's illustrations 321 00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:45.759 I believe in there from block who Lucy you'll you'll know, work work with 322 00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:51.559 our our friends at r KG and and did a lot of stuff with them. 323 00:25:51.559 --> 00:25:55.240 But the book that I've got is called the Abyssal Archive, The Mythology 324 00:25:55.319 --> 00:26:00.559 of Dark Souls, and it is amazing. It's got forward and by one 325 00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:08.319 Varty video, but then it is it's a it's a incredibly like detailed academic 326 00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:15.559 look at the world of Dark Souls and also like that tries to kind of 327 00:26:17.119 --> 00:26:23.000 harmonize the translations errors and what they know the writer knows from the Japanese version 328 00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:26.200 of the game versus what is assumed by a lot of the audience and that 329 00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:30.359 kind of stuff. This too, this to two book series is actually two 330 00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:38.440 hundred dollars, which yeah, it was a large dollar ratio. Yeah, 331 00:26:38.480 --> 00:26:41.440 I mean, but it is. It is stunning, and it's got like 332 00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:45.119 this fold out it's got a third book in there, which is a lot 333 00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:49.000 of thinner, but it's a fold out version of the Ladrone Map, which 334 00:26:49.079 --> 00:26:53.480 is very very cool, and it's got like loads of artwork in there and 335 00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:57.680 and that kind of stuff, but it is, it's pretty fantastic. There's 336 00:26:57.720 --> 00:27:02.880 also an audio book version of it that is available, which you can get 337 00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:07.599 for from tuning Forwether for seventeen dollars and it's the entire book read by Varty 338 00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:12.240 Video, so I recommend that as well. I haven't got that one, 339 00:27:12.279 --> 00:27:17.160 but I don't think you need to be told how good Varty Video's voice is. 340 00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:22.599 But it's about like twenty hours long as you listen to it. But 341 00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:27.000 yeah, it's a it's impressive, and they have a they have a blood 342 00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:32.200 Born one coming soon as well. It's good blood Echoes a blood Born anthology 343 00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:37.440 and that looks equally hot. I cannot wait to get it. But yeah, 344 00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:40.960 I've been reading that. I know. I'm also reading House of Leaves, 345 00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:48.799 which is good and weird and very remedy ish. It's very intense reading 346 00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:52.200 that book. It feels like it takes a lot out of you because it 347 00:27:52.359 --> 00:27:59.440 is like so dense with like concepts and language and that kind of stuff that 348 00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:03.839 imagery that you. It takes. By the time I finished reading a chapter, 349 00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:07.839 I'm exhausted, and I'm like, oh God, I'm just gonna put 350 00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:12.440 this down now and read the much easier Dark Souls book. Yeah, but 351 00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:18.359 that is primarily what I've been doing. Jen, Can I get a one 352 00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:23.279 piece update? Uh. Okay, I made it to the app where because 353 00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:30.000 I marathoned it and then I slowed down. I made it to the app 354 00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:36.960 where Sangi finally joins the crew and now they're looking for Nai Nami. They're 355 00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:41.160 looking they're looking for Nami. So this is after she vanishes, after she 356 00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:45.240 vanishes. So I just saw the blue fish Man or a purple fish man. 357 00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:49.759 Okay, cool? Along? Uh he's like the big dude and he's 358 00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:55.039 got likes yes, yes, yah, yeah, yeah, that's probably along. 359 00:28:56.319 --> 00:29:00.680 Yeah, he's the first main antagonist of that entire series. I finished 360 00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:08.839 watching the live action and it's not it is. It is, like I 361 00:29:10.279 --> 00:29:14.240 not to If you like it, good for you. I'm really happy for 362 00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:18.240 you. I respect that you like it. I think it's hilariously bad, 363 00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:23.559 like it is. The casting is good, but it feels so awkward to 364 00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:27.799 watch. And I'm not saying that because I love the anime or I am 365 00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:33.279 reading the manga and I love that. It's just like I wonder, like 366 00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:37.400 from a narrative perspective and just the way it looks and stuff like that. 367 00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:42.519 The way people behave in terms of like their performances are so awkward that it 368 00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:47.119 just wasn't for me, but I know a bunch of people who watched it 369 00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:52.400 and are now checking out the anime and manga, which is good for them. 370 00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:56.480 It's a good foot in the door. I guess, yeah, you're 371 00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:59.319 not, You're not. You're you're having the experience where you're going the other 372 00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:00.920 way where it's like you had the highest of the highs and then you're kind 373 00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:06.960 of going too. But yeah, I think they are also like I have 374 00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:10.119 to the reason, I'm like, I don't what sort of like, it's 375 00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:14.480 like it misses a lot of the humor that is good in it in the 376 00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:18.559 originals the source of material. It also like it truncates things that are really 377 00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:25.240 important from a character building an emotional kind of like standpoint, like that stuff 378 00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:30.359 that you've got coming up now Jen with Nummi is have you seen the live 379 00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:32.519 action? You have or not? No? No, no no. So 380 00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:36.200 it's the same thing that they do in the live action, but it's across 381 00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:41.160 two episodes. In the Amonga, it's like way longer to build up the 382 00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:45.240 characters and involved in it and then reach an emotional payoff, which is like 383 00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:52.759 everyone remembers that the final scene in that arc and it's like an iconic One 384 00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:56.400 Piece moment, but in this it's just so flippantly done that I was like, 385 00:30:56.319 --> 00:30:59.759 I'm kind of like, if I was watching this, even without my 386 00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:03.200 One Piece knowledge, I would be like, I don't I'm not buying any 387 00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:07.359 of this. I see, I see, but it is at the very 388 00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:12.640 least it's stylistically interesting, so and it's like it's got a good energy to 389 00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:18.319 it. And I do think that the person they carried they cast as Lufy 390 00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:25.480 is very good, like has that kind of naive positivity. And you know, 391 00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:27.960 One Piece is a story about a pirate who just wants to make good 392 00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:32.319 friends. That's how I see it described. And he just wants nice friends, 393 00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:37.799 and Lufy is very like fiercely protective of his friends, and that's all 394 00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:40.839 that show is about. It's every like he's trying to become the pirate king, 395 00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:45.319 but more importantly is he wants to have a good group of friends around 396 00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:48.920 him and keep them safe. I didn't realize he was pretty much a found 397 00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:56.559 family show. That's exactly. Yeah. I mean, like I watching the 398 00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:01.680 first arc of One Piece ending in the Nami stuff and Arlong Park will like 399 00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:07.039 sell you on that entire series because it like it is. I've seen people 400 00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:09.480 cry watching it just because it's like the the emotional payoff at the right at 401 00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:13.000 the end is like it is the good. Yeah, and then that that 402 00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:15.480 season, that series continues to be that finding friends, fighting for people. 403 00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:22.519 It's also about like rising up against tyranny and government and and and all all 404 00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:28.759 these kind of like very mature and very complicated subject matter that is delivered through 405 00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:34.799 a goofy kind of like car like not cartoon, but like a goofy tale 406 00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:40.440 anime tale. But it's surprisingly complex from a character and narrative perspective. Yeah, 407 00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:45.400 I'm not mad at it. I just it's not for me. Sure, 408 00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:52.920 I doubt I'll watch the second season. But makes me oddly and hesitantly 409 00:32:53.720 --> 00:33:01.480 hopeful that it's been like mildly well received. So it makes me mildly hopeful 410 00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:08.640 for the Avatar the Last Airbender live action series. I like a lot of 411 00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:15.079 the folks that they've caistered. Is the problem I think that he keeps coming 412 00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:20.039 out. Did you know they cost uh, you know who they cost for 413 00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:23.200 the cabbage guy? The cabbage guy. They cost the cabbage guy. Yeah, 414 00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:29.000 the guy who voices that they put him in the show to shout my 415 00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:31.839 cabbages. I really like, I'm a big fan of the actor that they 416 00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:37.200 cast it as Uncle Iro as well. Yeah, I haven't seen this cast 417 00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:46.359 actually Avatar the Last Yeah, I'm I am currently watching it for the Daniel 418 00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:51.160 day Kim Yeah. Oh wait no no no no, that's the old one. 419 00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:52.599 No no no, yeah no, I think he's in there, isn't 420 00:33:52.599 --> 00:34:00.599 he doesn't he pays? Yeah, he plays Oh my god, yeah him, 421 00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:10.360 which is Thunder. Yeah is kat Is Katara Danny Poodie from Communities, 422 00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:19.719 the Mechanic Mechanist. He's the the people that take over the Ear Temple. 423 00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:24.840 Oh gotcha, gotcha? Gotcha? Yes, Yeah, I'm rewatching Avatar currently, 424 00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:30.960 And man, that show holds up so well. It's like every episode 425 00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:38.920 is a banger, and like, oh they got Ken Long as Commander Jaw, 426 00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:45.519 which is a great casting. Yeah, yeah, that's very good. 427 00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:50.199 But yeah, it's it's it holds up really well. And sadly they just 428 00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:55.719 released a game, another game in the Avatar yea atrocious. I haven't read 429 00:34:57.360 --> 00:35:00.920 Tom marksg reviewed it but about it, and I was just like, I 430 00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:06.000 respect that he reviewed it. I think I tweeted that I don't. I 431 00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:08.559 don't when when I get like the code in or whenever someone's like, do 432 00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:10.360 you want to review this, I'm just like no, I don't want it, 433 00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:14.400 no because, like I tweeted about it, it's like if if not 434 00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:16.599 anyway, everyone involved in making these games isn't going to give a shit. 435 00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:21.360 I'm not going to give a shit from a from a like a coverage or 436 00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:23.920 like a consumer perspective, because it's just like insulting at this point, like 437 00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:28.119 get out, like I don't. I'm not wasting time and resources on this 438 00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:31.559 game that I just know it's crap. So yeah, I'm not about that 439 00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:36.159 left. But I hope that one day someone makes a good Avatar game. 440 00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:39.119 There's so much to be done there. I think like even if it's not 441 00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:44.760 like, oh wait, we've made the Adventures of Anger, like you could 442 00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:50.079 do a call like Cora pro bending game like a sports game or something like 443 00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:52.039 that, or like you know, one of the many mini games in that 444 00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:57.719 just make an Uncle IROs Pie Show game like I play, I'll play that 445 00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:05.159 game. Yeah. But yeah, I've I've tast Rules Rules Airbender, but 446 00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:07.760 yeah, that's about That's all I've been doing. I think we're going to 447 00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:10.760 wrap it up there a shorter episode than usual, just because it's a smaller 448 00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:15.400 cast and we all have to kind of dash off and do various other things. 449 00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:20.440 But we should be back to full, full strength and normal sized podcast 450 00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:23.880 from next week. But for now, Jan where can people find you? 451 00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:28.719 What are you're doing? Uh? Just just go to giant bomb dot com. 452 00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:32.000 It's a website about video games and you know, found families as well. 453 00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:36.480 Exactly sometimes exactly. It turns out. You should be able to watch 454 00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:39.119 the train video by now. If you can't see it and it's not there, 455 00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:45.119 don't ask me any questions questions. Lucy, what about you? Lucy 456 00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:51.960 James Games Everywhere? Yeah, add two more h make sure you check out 457 00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:58.199 the Cyberpunk twenty seventy seven spoiler cast, which should be up now. Also 458 00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:01.519 I wrote an Alan Wake preview which you can read on the site. And 459 00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:06.079 also there's a video preview that me and Lucy did together on the site, 460 00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:09.639 So check all that stuff out. There's also going to be or there should 461 00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:14.880 be a new episode of spot On out by now, which is about PlayStation 462 00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:21.119 Plus and Xbox Game Pass and the rising prices of it and whether it's worth 463 00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:28.800 having them. Still totally non spicy conversation will probably be received with the most 464 00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:34.480 no fan boys or girls. Yeah, we'll get mad about yeah, see 465 00:37:34.519 --> 00:38:04.800 you next week. Bye, goodbye, good rye, goodbye, goodbye trond Di