WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:08.640 It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine 2 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:23.079 day, Now here's Nick Coffee. I'm just going to assume that either today 3 00:00:23.199 --> 00:00:29.600 or yesterday was the deadline for players to pull their name from the NBA Draft, 4 00:00:29.760 --> 00:00:33.759 because, uh, these tweets coming out in the last uh in the 5 00:00:33.799 --> 00:00:37.159 last I don't know, a few hours have have put me in a panic 6 00:00:37.200 --> 00:00:41.479 here and there. I'm sure other fans have seen the same thing because, 7 00:00:41.799 --> 00:00:44.560 you know, for example, I did not realize that case in Pryor, 8 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:49.439 one of Louisvill's top transfers from South Florida, was even going through the draft 9 00:00:49.479 --> 00:00:53.159 process. But I think it was Rostein, who you know, reported that 10 00:00:53.200 --> 00:00:58.640 he will remove his name from the NBA draft and play at Louisville this year. 11 00:00:58.640 --> 00:01:00.799 But they just had one for the Butler kid who's transferring from San Diego 12 00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:07.959 State to UH to Kentucky and uh yeah, I mean, I think anybody 13 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:12.879 who's gonna be going. I think everybody knows now that those announcements, if 14 00:01:12.879 --> 00:01:18.439 you will, are in fact, you know, just a formality, like 15 00:01:18.439 --> 00:01:22.319 these players aren't putting them out there yet. I feel like it's Rostein and 16 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:25.840 who else is it, maybe Goodman, but somebody. I mean, is 17 00:01:25.879 --> 00:01:30.280 that necessary? Like if the players themselves, by the way, we know 18 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:34.079 they're gonna get a graphic designer to make something with some long message that nobody 19 00:01:34.120 --> 00:01:36.959 reads other than the bottom to see. Okay, are you saying you're transferring? 20 00:01:37.200 --> 00:01:40.120 Are you saying you're coming back? Like? What are you saying here? 21 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:42.519 I mean, if the players don't even feel the need to let people 22 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:44.640 know that they're going to remove their name from the NBA draft, I'm not 23 00:01:44.680 --> 00:01:48.079 sure it needs to be you know, on the news wire here for folks 24 00:01:48.159 --> 00:01:51.959 like Rostein and Goodman and you know whoever else is putting it out there. 25 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:56.239 And that's kind of Rostein's brand, isn't it though. Yeah, Rostein breaks 26 00:01:56.280 --> 00:01:59.439 a lot of things that you don't typically see the other reporter's breaks. Like 27 00:01:59.480 --> 00:02:04.200 he'll he'll he talks about random non conference games like Chicago State's gonna play against 28 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:06.920 Vanderbilt or something. Yeah, but he'll dress it up as if like, 29 00:02:06.920 --> 00:02:09.080 ooh, looks like we've got some Rossteine scooping. Then it and then it's 30 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:13.800 that it's like, you know, looks like looks like uh, you know, 31 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:19.439 it's it looks like he's gonna play merist on November seventeenth, and that 32 00:02:19.479 --> 00:02:22.639 would actually be something that I would have some level of interest in because because 33 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:24.639 I'm a Louisville family. Yeah, like Mike Woodson's gonna bring back his video 34 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:30.120 coordinator for the fourth consecutive year, congratulations, you know, and then whatever, 35 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:34.319 what's this? What's his saying about? We sleep in may You know 36 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:36.960 what's his saying about Woodson? Does he have one? Like he's got a 37 00:02:37.280 --> 00:02:39.000 He's got something he says about every coach, you know what I mean, 38 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:43.280 I've never noticed that. Oh dude, I'm I mean again, I don't 39 00:02:43.319 --> 00:02:46.080 catch on to everything, and that must be good when I start mentioning these, 40 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:50.520 I'm gonna pull it up today. I'm gonna pull it up here because 41 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:54.240 he has shirts that he sells that are you know. For example, the 42 00:02:54.280 --> 00:02:59.560 new one for Kentucky is keeping the Faith and it's more Pope with prayers. 43 00:03:00.919 --> 00:03:07.319 Let's see Rick Patino the Godfather, Ed Cooley the American Dream. Chris Jans 44 00:03:07.360 --> 00:03:10.840 is the dentist for some reason, I don't really know Greg Guard, Silent 45 00:03:10.919 --> 00:03:16.680 Assassin, Shaka Smart reincarnation like he clearly they haven't caught on that much. 46 00:03:17.240 --> 00:03:22.520 But you know, I can't believe I haven't noticed this. Look up John 47 00:03:22.599 --> 00:03:24.840 like search John Rostein's tweets. I mean, not right now, but whenever 48 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:28.319 you get a chance, I would be willing to bet at John Rostein and 49 00:03:28.319 --> 00:03:31.280 then put in Mike Woodson. There'll be some tweet that he put out after 50 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:38.439 Indiana beat somebody, and there'll be some corny tagline about Woodson that you know 51 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:43.360 he's probably trying, and some of them catch on, but some of them 52 00:03:43.360 --> 00:03:46.280 don't, like the one for Chris Mack with stone Cold. Don't really know 53 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:50.000 why. Maybe because he's bald like stone Cold. But yeah, yeah, 54 00:03:50.360 --> 00:03:53.479 I just look at up Mike Woodson. Let's see here, doesn't fee like 55 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:58.560 he's got a whole lot of tweets about Wodson. May yeah, maybe he's 56 00:03:58.599 --> 00:04:01.919 hating on Woodson. He didn't refer to him as the Portal King at one 57 00:04:01.960 --> 00:04:06.439 point, maybe that's going to be you know, what he says or how 58 00:04:06.439 --> 00:04:09.120 he you know, refers to him as. I mean, again, they're 59 00:04:09.159 --> 00:04:13.000 all corny, but anyways, what a way to get the four o'clock hour 60 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:15.719 started. I guess this is just a way for me to say, if 61 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:18.920 you do see somebody like Rosstine, reporting about players that have transferred to Kentucky 62 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:23.279 or Louisville, and he mentions the NBA Draft. Read it all the way 63 00:04:23.279 --> 00:04:26.399 through because it's not him telling you anything other than you didn't and he's not 64 00:04:26.399 --> 00:04:29.120 telling you anything he didn't already know. He's telling you that they're removing their 65 00:04:29.160 --> 00:04:31.439 name from the NBA Draft, which they probably already have. So anyways, 66 00:04:31.680 --> 00:04:34.839 it is Coffee and Company Hour number two. Back after a nice vacation, 67 00:04:35.279 --> 00:04:39.560 always going to be back. I enjoy vacation, but it also, you 68 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:42.839 know, reminds me that I do, in fact get to do something that 69 00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:46.319 I really love for a living because I miss it and I'm looking forward to 70 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:48.160 getting back at it. And that's what we're doing today. So appreciate you 71 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:50.240 guys hanging out with us. I do and remind you we are fueled by 72 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:54.959 Thornton's. Make sure you sign up to become a member of the Thornton's Refreshman 73 00:04:54.959 --> 00:04:57.319 Awards program. If you haven't already, you can do it online or you 74 00:04:57.360 --> 00:05:01.879 can download the app Refreshman Awards dot Com. All right, So, overall, 75 00:05:01.920 --> 00:05:04.319 as I mentioned to start the show, I didn't really miss out on 76 00:05:04.360 --> 00:05:08.040 a whole lot, like you know, there's some things that you know happened 77 00:05:08.959 --> 00:05:11.319 last week that you know would have given us something to talk about it. 78 00:05:11.279 --> 00:05:15.600 And I'm sure it was discussed by the cast that helped fill help fill in 79 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:18.360 while I was gone. But that's the best type of vacation to take in 80 00:05:18.879 --> 00:05:21.920 this role, at least in my opinion, is that you know, it's 81 00:05:21.959 --> 00:05:25.759 not as if I had Fomo right, I wasn't wishing I was back on 82 00:05:25.800 --> 00:05:29.680 the air talking about some big developing story that I know many people would be 83 00:05:29.720 --> 00:05:31.360 interested in. Again, I think the Scotty Scheffler stuff has kind of carried 84 00:05:31.399 --> 00:05:34.160 over, and we did just share some news at the end of the end 85 00:05:34.160 --> 00:05:36.439 of the three o'clock hour that you guys may not be aware of. But 86 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:41.759 there is going to be a press conference tomorrow at one point thirty with Steve 87 00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:45.279 Romins, the attorney for Scotti Scheffler. Scheffler will not be there and at 88 00:05:45.279 --> 00:05:47.639 one o'clock well, actually I don't know. I mean, let me just 89 00:05:47.720 --> 00:05:53.560 read the exact details here, because maybe it'll be a presser with Scheffler being 90 00:05:53.639 --> 00:05:58.160 present. Actually no, he's not gonna be. Just it just says that 91 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:00.879 Scheffler's attorney, Steve Romins, is gonna a press conference at one thirty, 92 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:05.319 So the Jefferson County Attorney, Mike O'Connell is going to be in court to 93 00:06:05.319 --> 00:06:09.319 speak with the judge about this case at one o'clock. Presser at one thirty 94 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:13.240 with Scheffler's lawyer. So again, what do I know, But a lot 95 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:15.160 of people seem to be coming to the conclusion that this is likely going to 96 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:17.959 be an announcement that charges are dropped, which I hope that's the case. 97 00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:21.800 I hope that that's how this thing ends up working out, because I don't 98 00:06:21.800 --> 00:06:28.319 believe that Scottie Scheffler did anything that would warn him being arrested. And we 99 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:31.480 will never know the full extent of it because there's no sound, clearly, 100 00:06:31.519 --> 00:06:35.600 and the guy who was involved in it violated the LMPD policy by not having 101 00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:40.839 his body came on. So it's still an embarrassing look though, and it 102 00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:45.480 could have been avoided. And you know, I tried to give law enforcement 103 00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:48.959 and I always do and will continue in most instances to assume because I know, 104 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:53.360 I'm not even saying that, you know, the cop who did this, 105 00:06:54.279 --> 00:06:57.079 Brian Gillis he may not be a bad human being. He may not 106 00:06:57.160 --> 00:07:00.720 be a terrible cop, although there's some things on his rap sheet, if 107 00:07:00.759 --> 00:07:02.680 we can call it that, that make it make me question as if why 108 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:08.800 he's still employed. But even if he's just even if he's guilty of just 109 00:07:08.839 --> 00:07:12.600 being a knucklehead. One, you probably shouldn't be a knucklehead and be a 110 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:15.399 police officer because that's a big role, that's a tall task, and that's 111 00:07:15.439 --> 00:07:20.480 something that you should always be not doing things like that. But I know 112 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:25.040 that many of those that, in fact, the vast majority of those that 113 00:07:25.079 --> 00:07:29.120 are part of law enforcement, are very professional and good at what they do. 114 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:31.879 You know, you wish that everybody was perfect, but that's just not 115 00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:35.120 reality. That's not planet Earth, that's just not how things work. But 116 00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:39.959 I wanted I didn't want Scotty Scheffler to be on video looking like an a 117 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:43.519 hole, But I wanted to make some sense of how this happened, because 118 00:07:43.519 --> 00:07:47.319 I've from from the beginning. When it played out like it did two Fridays 119 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:50.480 ago, at seven o'clock in the morning, I'm thinking to myself, there's 120 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:56.240 no what is this can be real? So I was just hoping there would 121 00:07:56.279 --> 00:07:59.759 be some explanation that would make it make sense. And here we are ten 122 00:08:00.000 --> 00:08:01.639 even days later, and I still don't think it makes any sense as to 123 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:07.480 how it ended up in that type of a situation. So if chargers are 124 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:09.240 dropped, that'll, I think, will be a good thing, But the 125 00:08:09.279 --> 00:08:15.079 embarrassment is still there, and I just hate that, you know, because 126 00:08:15.120 --> 00:08:18.120 there are people who don't come to Louisville very often, maybe they've never come 127 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:26.800 to Louisville and they only really know the Louisville headlines that get national, sometimes 128 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:31.839 worldwide attention, and unfortunately, over the years, we've had a handful of 129 00:08:31.839 --> 00:08:35.159 those that weren't great looks for this city that you know, I've lived in 130 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:39.240 my whole life and will never leave unless they kick me out. And it 131 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:43.960 just I hate that, Like there that you bring up Louisville at an airport 132 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:48.639 in Texas tomorrow. Wouldn't be shocked if people start making fun of LMPD for 133 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:50.559 you know, or maybe not making fun of them, but just you know, 134 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:52.960 talking about how bad they are at about how Louisville will never get a 135 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:56.879 big event again. And it's just one person, But like that, I 136 00:08:56.919 --> 00:08:58.679 just feel like it could have been avoided. Sometimes things can't be avoided, 137 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:01.759 and it's just it's unfortunate, right, Like, I don't think anybody blamed 138 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:07.360 Louisville for the tragic situation that happened. I mean a mass shooting, but 139 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:11.399 you know, but that's just that's a tragic situation. That's sad. There's 140 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:15.799 good stuff that goes on here. I love this place, and we had 141 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:18.600 the PGA Championship here, which of course is a huge event, and it 142 00:09:18.679 --> 00:09:26.919 seems as if everything went extremely well other than that. And I don't just 143 00:09:26.039 --> 00:09:33.639 mean the incident where Scotti Schefler was arrested, but the tragic accident that led 144 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:39.039 to somebody losing their life who was volunteering. So if charges there dropped, 145 00:09:39.080 --> 00:09:41.679 I would say that that's the right thing. It's a good thing. But 146 00:09:41.799 --> 00:09:46.720 it still just sucks that everything happened the way that it did. And I 147 00:09:46.759 --> 00:09:52.240 don't want to get you know, I don't want to get too serious about 148 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:54.440 it. And I'm not trying to get I'm not like emotional, I'm not 149 00:09:54.440 --> 00:09:56.759 fighting tears, and I'm just trying to find the right way to describe this 150 00:09:56.879 --> 00:10:03.759 without it's sounding like I'm being over the top. But if Scotty Scheffler wasn't 151 00:10:03.799 --> 00:10:11.320 Scotty Scheffler, and this entire thing happened an innocent man from what I can 152 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:15.559 tell, and the only evidence that that is real other than that it's just 153 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:20.759 this guy's word, meaning Giles the officer. I mean, this guy would 154 00:10:20.759 --> 00:10:24.360 probably be going to prison. Like that's that's scary to think about, right, 155 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:31.159 Like they could be sending you know, like this guy, this Brian 156 00:10:31.399 --> 00:10:35.279 gillis kill us whatever I think it's kill us. He got irritated and clearly 157 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:37.799 just lost his mind and started banging on the window. He was not. 158 00:10:39.279 --> 00:10:41.600 And again for those who claimed, well you didn't see everything, the video 159 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:46.279 didn't actually have the initial the initial exchange between the two and that's where he 160 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:50.600 that's where he he dragged him ten to fifteen yards, because there's no way 161 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:52.080 a cop would lie. And we have to hold like people who say that, 162 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:58.639 okay, whatever, but use your brain even if it's not big Mine's 163 00:10:58.639 --> 00:11:01.360 not big mine didn't work great. But I know a little bit about, 164 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:05.279 you know, reading a situation by body language and by reaction of other people. 165 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:09.240 If when he made the you know, when he when he stopped the 166 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:11.720 vehicle and he you know, because he was banging on the window, if 167 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:16.679 that was because the man had just been dragged ten to fifteen yards. As 168 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:20.080 it said in the report, every other law enforcement officer around him would have 169 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:24.799 been I mean they'd had their guns out. They would have because he was 170 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:28.720 drying a cop and they didn't because it was it was nothing. So I 171 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:35.039 just, you know, I hate that. But again, if in fact, 172 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:41.799 I mean, let's just say Scheffler couldn't make bail because he wasn't Scotty 173 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:46.480 Scheffler, he was Scotty Something, he'd be sitting in jail right now waiting 174 00:11:46.519 --> 00:11:50.480 for these charges to hopefully be dropped. I mean, that's scary, is 175 00:11:50.519 --> 00:11:54.039 it not. I just I don't know, I don't know people think about 176 00:11:54.039 --> 00:11:56.879 that kind of stuff, and I know it sounds I mean, I'm not 177 00:11:56.919 --> 00:12:00.360 trying to be too dramatic, but that's the first thing I thought of whenever 178 00:12:00.399 --> 00:12:03.960 I saw the video, and like, knowing what we don't everybody's side of 179 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:09.000 it, because again I think every I mean everything Scotti Scheffler said, from 180 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:13.559 what we can tell, appeared to be true misunderstanding. He didn't tell them 181 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:15.320 who he was, He didn't try to mean, they didn't know who they 182 00:12:15.399 --> 00:12:22.679 arrested, and that shouldn't matter anyway. But the people who lied from what 183 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:26.200 we can tell is the officer. And if he didn't and he wants people 184 00:12:26.200 --> 00:12:30.559 to believe him, good luck. I mean, I mean, did you 185 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:33.039 see some of the things he was acute that he's been written up for. 186 00:12:33.240 --> 00:12:35.600 John, I didn't look at his rap sheet. I did see the video, 187 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:39.840 well, I mean, and that's totally you know. I mean when 188 00:12:39.879 --> 00:12:41.519 I say look at his rap sheet, I don't mean like I didn't pull 189 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:46.279 an open records request. But this became a big story on I guess it 190 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:50.639 was last Wednesday, maybe roughly a week ago. I mean, he's been 191 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:54.559 suspended more than once for policy violations, including a violation where he drove an 192 00:12:54.559 --> 00:13:00.320 intoxicated person in his police car on duty doing donuts in a parking lot. 193 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:03.240 Like you want people like that to get the benefit of the doubt when they 194 00:13:03.320 --> 00:13:05.440 choose to not have their body came on, Like you can't, Like, 195 00:13:05.480 --> 00:13:11.120 it's insulting to think that you can just believe someone who says that because they 196 00:13:11.159 --> 00:13:16.679 are law enforcement, especially when they've had legitimately other incidents that make it clear 197 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:20.000 that they're not always maybe on their best behavior. But that is just one 198 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:24.039 part of it that when I think about it now, I don't think about 199 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:28.720 Scotty Shuffler. I think about it could have been Scotty Scotty and he may 200 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:31.159 don't have a lot of money, he may not have resources. He'd be 201 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:35.519 sitting in jail right now, not being able to make bail, and maybe 202 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:39.039 they wouldn't be you know, maybe they wouldn't drop the charges like that. 203 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:43.879 Look, it's unfortunate, but it's the reality. There are many people who 204 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:48.879 end up getting in charge with stuff and you later found out that it was 205 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:52.559 bogus. There are people who go to prison you later find out it wasn't 206 00:13:52.720 --> 00:13:56.720 legit and they were in there for something they didn't do. It's a scary, 207 00:13:56.759 --> 00:14:00.759 scary thing to think about. And this is not that right. I 208 00:14:00.759 --> 00:14:05.000 mean, everybody's okay at least you know from this situation between Scheffler and law 209 00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:09.159 enforcement, and he's he was able to play golf right after he ended up 210 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:13.080 getting arrested, and he was able to get back home to his family. 211 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:15.399 He just had a newborn baby, So like, I'm not trying to paint 212 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:18.039 him as a victim, but it's just another reminder that there that we need 213 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:22.360 to be able to trust law enforcement. And when you know body cam footage 214 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:28.480 exists for a reason, and I'm kind of a nerd for this. There's 215 00:14:28.519 --> 00:14:33.919 these TikTok accounts that all they do is show you, like a five part 216 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:39.120 video of somebody getting pulled over and somebody making an ass out of themselves and 217 00:14:39.720 --> 00:14:43.840 you know, just being a complete criminal and just lunatic. And the cops 218 00:14:43.919 --> 00:14:48.200 are on their best behavior, doing everything by the book. And it's because 219 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:54.000 they know they're being recorded, and they look forward to telling the criminal who 220 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:56.000 they're arresting. Oh, don't worry, everything's being recorded. Yeah, I'd 221 00:14:56.080 --> 00:15:00.120 love to show the judge how you're acting like that, like that like that 222 00:15:00.200 --> 00:15:03.080 helps, right, I mean, that's that level of transparency. You know, 223 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:05.639 doesn't mean everybody's perfect. Clearly they're going to still make mistakes and do 224 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:09.720 things they shouldn't do, because again, nobody's no profession has everybody that does 225 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:11.279 everything the right way. I mean, that's just not it's not it's not 226 00:15:11.320 --> 00:15:18.480 realistic. But if you intentionally turn your body cam off as a cop, 227 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:24.120 there's got to be a reason for that. And I'm not saying he did 228 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:24.840 that. Maybe he never had it on, Maybe he never had it on 229 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:28.559 him. I don't know. And that those details haven't haven't been made public. 230 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:33.519 It may they may not be made public. But you know, if 231 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:39.600 you if your body camera stops working at a time where you know the person 232 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:41.600 you arrested is claiming you did this or that and you don't don't know to 233 00:15:41.679 --> 00:15:46.000 just stop working for you know, ninety seconds while I beat this person's brain 234 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:50.559 in, Like I just you should be held accountable to the point where you 235 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:54.200 can't still be a law enforcement officer if you can't, if you can't do 236 00:15:54.279 --> 00:15:58.120 that part And another side of it though, is and this is this is 237 00:15:58.159 --> 00:16:02.279 true, like now many people are signing up to do that job anymore. 238 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:04.320 And I don't blame them because it would be difficult. It could be a 239 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:08.960 thankless to me, it's a thankless type of position. And the people who 240 00:16:10.000 --> 00:16:12.440 do it and take pride in it, they're passionate about it. It's their 241 00:16:12.480 --> 00:16:18.799 career. They protect and serve, it's the job. Like God bless those 242 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:22.159 people, because again, like that's I wouldn't want to do it. I 243 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:25.159 wouldn't be good at it, you know, I mean, they put their 244 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:27.639 life on the line. But I just wish there was more accountability at times. 245 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:32.399 And the one thing I don't understand. And I'm getting a little sidetracked 246 00:16:32.440 --> 00:16:41.919 here, but who cares if you use your status as law enforcement to break 247 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:45.279 a law you know a little easier than someone else could because of your position, 248 00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:48.960 because of maybe access you have to things, or maybe because you think 249 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:53.799 that you can get away with it. You should be held accountable differently than 250 00:16:53.799 --> 00:16:59.000 anybody. In my opinion, like that is disgraceful, it's disgusting. And 251 00:16:59.159 --> 00:17:04.480 oftentimes you see to where law enforcement doesn't get nearly the type of punishment or 252 00:17:04.519 --> 00:17:07.880 even a punishment at all, that someone else would get. And that's what 253 00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:11.359 I don't understand. Now, maybe there's a maybe there's somebody that's thinking right 254 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:14.720 now, oh here, let me tell you, Nick, it's because you 255 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:18.200 know, despite this mistake or this issue for years, this person did sacrifice 256 00:17:18.200 --> 00:17:25.319 their life by being in you know, being law enforcement. But that doesn't 257 00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:26.680 mean they get a free pass for stuff. And I'm not talking about some 258 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:32.519 like well, some of this stuff is pretty it's pretty crazy. But there's 259 00:17:32.559 --> 00:17:34.559 a guy that I went to high school with and I'm not gonna name his 260 00:17:34.640 --> 00:17:41.000 name, but I'm sure you know the story. He is one of the 261 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:48.440 LMPD officers who was throwing slushies on people in the street, and you know 262 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:52.480 that is an awful thing to do, to be a cop and be throwing 263 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:59.000 slushies at random strangers on the side of the street, Like that's just like 264 00:17:59.079 --> 00:18:02.799 that's disgusting behavior. Well, he was part of that, but he also 265 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:10.839 was in trouble for using law using his status in law enforcement to you know 266 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:14.400 again, I don't I don't want to get sued. I'll just read you 267 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:18.119 the direct headline here from WDRB on June thirtieth of last year. Former NBD 268 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:25.240 officer convicted for throwing slushies in people's faces. He faces lawsuit for sex stortion. 269 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:27.759 So he's also involved in a sex stortion case if you don't know what 270 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:32.559 that is, looking up sex stortion and he was found. I mean, 271 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:34.640 he clearly did it, and you know, he was charged with it. 272 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:37.920 I don't know if he went to trial, if he pleaded, but like 273 00:18:37.960 --> 00:18:40.599 he ended up going to prison. He's getting out in shock probation, maybe 274 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:41.440 already is out. Maybe he's a listening right now. I don't know, 275 00:18:41.480 --> 00:18:45.519 but I went to school with this guy, and like it just kills me 276 00:18:45.599 --> 00:18:48.720 to know that, Like I know somebody or knew somebody who could do something 277 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:52.799 like that, and like he's not even like he's not really getting punished to 278 00:18:52.839 --> 00:18:56.079 the level that I feel like most people would. I guess I can't know. 279 00:18:56.119 --> 00:19:00.640 I can't. I can't comprehend that. But anyways, back to the 280 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:03.200 whole Scotty Cheffer thing, if they drop charges tomorrow, I would say that 281 00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:07.839 that is that's the best thing you could do at this time. But I 282 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:11.680 just feel like this thing could have been completely avoided. And I don't even 283 00:19:11.720 --> 00:19:15.880 think it'll have anything to do with Louisville no longer getting a PG event because 284 00:19:17.839 --> 00:19:21.000 by the time, I mean, there's not many events they can even pick 285 00:19:21.039 --> 00:19:23.160 from to throw Louisville in the mix, because they've already picked most of the 286 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:26.839 places they're gonna be going for the few. Like, it's just it was 287 00:19:26.960 --> 00:19:29.720 very unrealistic even before that happened. But I know now that, like, 288 00:19:29.799 --> 00:19:33.160 you know, five six years down the line, if they don't get one, 289 00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:37.799 and there'll be people that just well, you know why, and that 290 00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:41.519 may you know, it could have helped their situation. But I just again, 291 00:19:41.680 --> 00:19:45.039 what makes this, in my opinion, just such a frustration for me 292 00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:48.319 because I don't care about the PG. I mean, I'm not a golf 293 00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:51.279 fan, trust me, and you know I don't. I don't feel terrible 294 00:19:51.319 --> 00:19:52.279 for Scotti Scheffer. I mean, I hate that that happen to him, 295 00:19:52.279 --> 00:19:56.759 but like he's okay, and he's probably gonna sue LMPD and probably take a 296 00:19:56.799 --> 00:20:00.240 lot of money. But it just could have easily been avoided, and I 297 00:20:00.279 --> 00:20:03.160 wanted there to be at least something that made it make a little more sense. 298 00:20:03.240 --> 00:20:07.440 And it actually left me questioning more than I was even the day that 299 00:20:07.480 --> 00:20:11.400 had happened, because law enforcement is supposed to de escalate things, and I 300 00:20:11.400 --> 00:20:15.359 feel like that was de escalated by one person. And I'm sorry, I 301 00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:18.839 don't. I wouldn't give this guy the benefit of that out knowing he didn't 302 00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:22.440 have a body cam on and he's been punished by a MPDE before for you 303 00:20:22.440 --> 00:20:27.960 know, just being being a knucklehead for lack of a better word, quick 304 00:20:27.960 --> 00:20:30.839 break will come back on the other side. Keep it rolling along. It's 305 00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:33.359 coffee and company. We are fuel. But Thornton's right here on Sports Talk 306 00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:37.720 seven ninety so thank you to someone on the text line reminded me of the 307 00:20:37.720 --> 00:20:45.079 other I guess write ups policy violations that Detective Brian Gillis. Jillis has had 308 00:20:47.119 --> 00:20:52.160 reprimands that range from being found at fault in an accident, failing to appear 309 00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:56.720 in court, and conduct unbecoming of an officer. If that was already on 310 00:20:56.359 --> 00:21:02.720 my record with my employer, I wouldn't I would probably have my body came 311 00:21:02.799 --> 00:21:04.680 on at home, off duty, just to make sure I don't. You 312 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:07.920 know, I can defend myself if something happen happens, because I'm not going 313 00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:11.960 to get the bene of it out because I've made mistakes already. And again, 314 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:14.920 I'm not trying to claim that this guy is the worst human being in 315 00:21:14.960 --> 00:21:19.160 the world, but I mean, it's hard to I mean, and I 316 00:21:19.160 --> 00:21:22.000 would say this. And by the way, this definitely generated a lot of 317 00:21:22.039 --> 00:21:26.359 feedback from people, and most people are having, you know, civil responses. 318 00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:30.839 It's not like they're claiming you're in any year, you know, but 319 00:21:32.880 --> 00:21:36.480 again it's of you. Well, if you had your body came on and 320 00:21:36.519 --> 00:21:40.039 you still do what you did and they still you know, they still charged 321 00:21:40.119 --> 00:21:41.839 him, you know, it's still would happened. You looked even more foolish 322 00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:45.440 if in fact what we do see in the video is really all that had 323 00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:52.759 happened. But it's just hard to If this was a random person and not 324 00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:56.839 Scottie Scheffler, I would say the same thing, meaning like this guy, 325 00:21:56.079 --> 00:22:00.880 I mean, he looks like he looks like he escalat it rather than de 326 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:06.039 escalated and turned it into something it just didn't need to be, all right. 327 00:22:06.079 --> 00:22:07.640 So we did talk about Bill Walton earlier in the show, and I 328 00:22:08.440 --> 00:22:11.559 meant it when I said it. I loved Bill Walton, and I always 329 00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:15.400 talked about that whenever I felt you know, at times, I remember thinking, 330 00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:15.839 like, man, I coul talk about Bill Walton all day. But 331 00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:18.559 I know a lot of people don't really want to hear that because either they 332 00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:22.799 don't care, it's not relevant to them, or you know, maybe they 333 00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:26.279 don't like it. But I would. It became pretty clear to me in 334 00:22:26.279 --> 00:22:29.279 the last twenty four hours that I did talk enough about him to where people 335 00:22:29.319 --> 00:22:33.599 realized that I was a super fan. And I was sad yesterday. I 336 00:22:33.640 --> 00:22:40.319 mean I was, and I think somebody who could get an unbelievable amount of 337 00:22:40.400 --> 00:22:47.359 love from countless fans and supporters of him, knowing he was terminally ill and 338 00:22:47.400 --> 00:22:51.319 going to die, and just chew and chose not to to not make it. 339 00:22:51.319 --> 00:22:53.119 I mean again, I hate even saying, like to make it about 340 00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:56.400 yourself, because I don't think if you do that, that's what you're doing. 341 00:22:56.480 --> 00:23:00.920 I would be scared to death. To figure I a better way to 342 00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:02.839 say that, because like, that's not I'm not trying to make a joke. 343 00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:06.160 It's just me being a dumbass. I would be so scared. I 344 00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:11.319 would be terrified if I knew I didn't have that much longer to live because 345 00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:14.640 of a health condition like cancer. I would want people on my side at 346 00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:18.039 all times, not showering me with praise and compliments, but just loving me. 347 00:23:18.359 --> 00:23:22.680 So I feel, you know, a little bit of a numbness to 348 00:23:22.759 --> 00:23:26.200 my fear. And I'm sure he had that with his close ones, but 349 00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:30.000 you know, he chose to keep it private. And I just think that's 350 00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:33.160 a selfless thing and it kind of speaks to him. And I think he 351 00:23:33.319 --> 00:23:38.519 was somebody that you know, and people may not know this about Bill. 352 00:23:38.559 --> 00:23:42.200 He used to talk openly about depression and suicide. I mean, he contemplated 353 00:23:42.279 --> 00:23:48.440 killing himself many times in his life. He was always in pain. I 354 00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:52.160 mean he I think he spent the amount of time he spent in a hospital 355 00:23:52.319 --> 00:23:55.279 as an adult, you know, because of injuries. I mean just he 356 00:23:55.319 --> 00:23:57.519 was a banged up player that had I mean, he could barely move, 357 00:23:59.599 --> 00:24:03.240 you know, at times. And I don't think in the last thirty years 358 00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:07.680 he's really done a whole lot of active things just because again his health from 359 00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:12.519 playing from playing basketball. But he one of the things that he had said 360 00:24:12.559 --> 00:24:17.359 that that, you know, I remember hearing it a while back, and 361 00:24:17.400 --> 00:24:21.880 I have heard it and have seen people mention it on social media. Happiness 362 00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:25.480 begins when selfishness ends, and I think he did, you know, I 363 00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:29.079 just choose to believe he did find some peace and really presented himself as a 364 00:24:29.119 --> 00:24:30.559 really just the happiest guy ever, right Like, I don't think you could 365 00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:34.079 ever hear any of Bill Walton stories or you know, especially not in the 366 00:24:34.160 --> 00:24:37.920 last you know, twenty five thirty years. A lot of the stories of 367 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:41.279 him that you've heard, or you you know, you hear him on games 368 00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:45.680 as a broadcaster. He seemed like a guy who loved life, maybe more 369 00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:48.000 than anybody. And I think that's why you hear folks who say I met 370 00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:51.640 Bill Walton randomly, and I'm just a random joe. He talked to me 371 00:24:51.640 --> 00:24:56.359 for an hour because I think he was that selfless to where he would give 372 00:24:56.400 --> 00:24:59.519 you. I mean, it was just his spirit. You know. People 373 00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:00.240 can say he was hippie. I think he kind of was, like I 374 00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:04.119 think that was kind of his brand. But he had an ability to, 375 00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:10.720 I think, kind of see everybody and I mean everybody the exact same way 376 00:25:10.920 --> 00:25:12.960 and not I mean he he talked to you. I mean again, I 377 00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:15.799 don't know this first time. I wish I would have gotten a chance to 378 00:25:15.799 --> 00:25:18.160 meet him. But my buddy Aaron Torres, who you guys here on the 379 00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:21.160 show. From time to time you hear him on Fox Sports Radio. I 380 00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:26.400 remember right before the pandemic put a halt to sports, he got a chance 381 00:25:26.440 --> 00:25:30.920 to interview Bill Walton, and he he ended up I think delaying the interview 382 00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:33.599 because I think it was at the Pac twelve tournament and it might have been 383 00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:37.960 the day that all hell broke loose where he had some teams playing in the 384 00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:40.160 early rounds of the conference tournaments. By the time you get to the end 385 00:25:40.160 --> 00:25:42.759 of the night, the NBA's canceled. You know, there's seasons put on 386 00:25:42.759 --> 00:25:45.440 hold, and then then the next day you didn't get any basketball other than 387 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:49.960 like one team played like a first half somewhere so the interview that he did 388 00:25:49.960 --> 00:25:53.519 with Bill Walton, as far as the timing of it, you know, 389 00:25:53.920 --> 00:25:56.759 I don't want to say it became a dud. And I listened to it 390 00:25:56.799 --> 00:26:00.440 and it was a great interview, but you know, releasing it right would 391 00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:03.920 not have been the would not have been, you know, the right timing 392 00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:07.119 to do it. By the way, Aaron has re released that shared it 393 00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:08.920 on a social media I check it out if you're a big, big Bill 394 00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:11.799 Walton fan. But I remember Aaron telling me, He's like, dude, 395 00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:15.160 you wouldn't believe it. It was great, but like I didn't have to 396 00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:19.039 ask any questions and I'm kind of following on my phone what's going on? 397 00:26:19.240 --> 00:26:23.319 Was with like, you know what Corona is doing to the world in sports, 398 00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:27.759 and Bill Walton's just rolling like he never stopped, like he just kept 399 00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:30.039 talking me. He didn't want to. You know, it wasn't usually the 400 00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:34.039 interview somebody of that of that status, you would think that, all right, 401 00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:37.400 I got eight minutes here. I got to make sure I maximize what 402 00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:40.720 I have. Bill Walton. We'll talk to anybody for any amount of time, 403 00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:44.319 and it's one thing to do that and just be somebody that makes everything 404 00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:48.279 about you that you know is so self absorbed to where you just make any 405 00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:49.960 And we all know people like that, right, any conversation you have with 406 00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:52.559 somebody, they're going to find a way to make it about them. That's 407 00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:56.079 just how some people are are wired. You know, Bill would talk a 408 00:26:56.119 --> 00:26:59.640 lot to people, but he wouldn't make it all about him. In fact, 409 00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:04.440 I mean there's some people that just casual younger fans, they probably know 410 00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:07.680 him as the WACKI announce, or they may I know anything about him as 411 00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:10.839 a player. He was a legendary player. So I was very sad to 412 00:27:10.839 --> 00:27:14.319 see that he passed away yesterday, But it's also not a surprise by any 413 00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:18.240 means to know that he made such an impact on so many people. And 414 00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:26.599 I just you know, he's a perfect example of like just your your attitude, 415 00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:30.400 your energy, and again this is the word that I guess some people 416 00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:34.160 will will attach to like being a hippie, but like his spirit. It 417 00:27:34.279 --> 00:27:37.079 made me at times think, like, you know, I would ever be 418 00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:41.160 man this guy's I mean, he's loving life. Like if I had this 419 00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:45.200 outlook, I mean, nothing could ever be that bad. So I'm very 420 00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:48.039 very sad that he passed away, But he clearly had a lot of fans. 421 00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:52.279 It wasn't just me. He's a legend and I forgot about this, 422 00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:56.519 but Jason Bennetti, who became one of his broadcast partners by the way, 423 00:27:56.839 --> 00:28:00.079 Dave Pash and Jason Benetti were the two guys that worked with him mostly at 424 00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:07.359 ESPN. Those guys were clearly I mean, it was all about Bill Walton 425 00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:11.160 whenever he was doing a game, but he wasn't a play by play guy's 426 00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:14.119 color analyst, and usually he wasn't doing much of that. He was just 427 00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:15.480 being Bill Walden. Then I know id annoyed people that he wouldn't talk about 428 00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:18.920 the actual game, and like, I get it, but I think those 429 00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:23.680 two guys, Benetti and Pash never got enough credit for kind of knowing how 430 00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:26.839 to do a game with Bill Walton and keeping it on the rails as best 431 00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:30.039 you can and knowing that, look, he's going to say something at least 432 00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:33.799 once per half that's probably going to be all anybody on Twitter is talking about, 433 00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:37.839 because that's what Bill Walden does. I went viral for the first time 434 00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:45.519 on Twitter during the MAUI Invitational because they were playing in in Nashville. Because 435 00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:48.680 of COVID Indiana was playing. It might have been Davidson. Does that sound 436 00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:52.240 right, John, It's one of those schools, yes, and somebody. 437 00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:56.640 It might have been somebody on Indiana, but I know what you're talking about. 438 00:28:56.680 --> 00:29:00.799 There was a player who you know, came out and had like eight 439 00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:03.680 points in the first ten minutes in Walton, Oh my god, this is 440 00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:06.319 the best game of his life. And he was a I don't know why 441 00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:07.960 I just did a dick if I tell there, but he's I mean, 442 00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:12.519 and the announcer said, he's a true freshman. This is his second career 443 00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:15.079 game. And Bill Walton, you know, just acted like he didn't say 444 00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:18.519 anything. And I shared the exchange, not the video, but just the 445 00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:23.000 quote and pardon my take. At one point, I think it's still up 446 00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:26.799 there one of the most popular podcasts in the world. They screenshoted my tweet 447 00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:30.119 and put it like on a graphic next to Bill Walton and like, of 448 00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:33.880 course, like that's a that's a typical Bill Walton thing. But those guys 449 00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:37.720 were really good. I think it making that at times be you know, 450 00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:41.519 comedic. And here's what I said this when because I used to get a 451 00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:45.480 lot of heat from people like pushback, like why do you say Bill Walton's 452 00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:48.000 great? Bill Walton's the worst. He never talks about the game. He's 453 00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:53.599 just a clown gotta and I get that it would be bother some to have 454 00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:57.839 him on a game when you are really into it. And I'm glad I 455 00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:02.440 never had that. Bill never called a game I had real rooting interest in. 456 00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:04.000 He was probably on the call for games I bet on, but like 457 00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:07.759 you never called a Louisville game. I wish I would have had that experience 458 00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:08.559 in a way, but I'm kind of glad I didn't, because I don't 459 00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:11.799 want to have any different you know. I mean, I would tune in 460 00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:17.200 if he was on just to see what wacky stuff he would say. So 461 00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:19.319 I experienced it a couple of times, and it was I guess it was 462 00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:23.680 during that Mali Invitational that Indiana was in, and maybe for me specifically, 463 00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:27.799 it wasn't because I don't think Indian did very well in that Maley Invitational, 464 00:30:29.839 --> 00:30:36.359 and I think him being himself helped the losses not be as difficult to over. 465 00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:37.559 And I'm somebody who likes Bill Walton. I know a lot of people 466 00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:41.359 don't like his name. You really I was, I mean, I feel 467 00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:47.119 like your age group doesn't appreciate Bill Walden. And I remember and again this 468 00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:49.759 is how I love that man. And when John told me when we started 469 00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:52.480 working together he actually liked him, I love that. I thought that was 470 00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:55.960 like I was like, man, we'll see how this goes. I love 471 00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:57.279 John already, but man, he's already earned some extra points with me. 472 00:30:57.319 --> 00:31:00.400 Not that that matters because he likes Bill Walton well, because he helped me 473 00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:03.519 make light of something that normally pissed me off. You wouldn't take you that 474 00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:07.519 you would you didn't take it as serious as suppose and it didn't bother you 475 00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:10.119 because you know, his perspective had kind of rubbed off on you a little 476 00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:12.880 bit. But Bennetti also, I think he actually has moved on to do 477 00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:17.359 games elsewhere. But he was the Chicago White Sox play by play guy on 478 00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:21.440 television for a while and they brought Bill Walton to do the baseball game with 479 00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:25.319 him. And this is one of those. This is a thirty or I'm 480 00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:30.079 sorry, a forty five second clip from his debut as a baseball announcer White 481 00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:34.200 Sox and Angels at the Diamond in the Park. This is your first ever 482 00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:40.799 baseball game doing this job, right, This is a job that's true. 483 00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:47.880 Well, I understand that it starts and then you play, yeah, but 484 00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:52.880 that the offense can't touch the ball and that the defense goes first, and 485 00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:59.039 then there's no time limits and you just go until somebody says it's over. 486 00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:04.279 Sounds very much like a dead show. It's a timeless game. I love 487 00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:08.119 timeless than this. You're timeless. Well, the one thing, I've been 488 00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:12.839 dead for quite a few years, and we all maybe by the end of 489 00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:15.599 the night. The music playing means we are actually out. And there are 490 00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:19.039 people who don't find that funny, and that's fine. Everybody has their own 491 00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:23.279 sense of humor. But that Bill Walton, that's what made him, in 492 00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:29.799 my opinion, you know great. And there's another one that I saw for 493 00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:34.200 the first time yesterday. He was on years ago with part of my take 494 00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:39.839 Big Cat in PFT. And I don't believe there's any cursing in here, 495 00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:43.880 so I'll just play it and we're good. I don't think there is. 496 00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:45.240 I know he doesn't curse, and I don't think they do in this question. 497 00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:50.000 But like it just this to me, especially the end of this thirty 498 00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:52.200 second clip, like it really lets you know where like Bill Walton, I 499 00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:58.480 think just stayed high. Like that's just like he's high on life at all 500 00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:00.960 times. When you go off in the middle of the broadcast, do you 501 00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:06.799 ever get lost in your own mind and you like almost forget where you are. 502 00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:12.319 I get lost all the time, and it's it's unbelievable to listen to 503 00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:15.599 like people, it's late night on the East Coast. It's fun to get 504 00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:23.559 lost, and it's important to get lost. But getting lost that implies that 505 00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:30.880 I know where I am to begin with, and and that's a giant leap 506 00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:35.920 of faith, right. I mean if somebody came up to me and said, 507 00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:38.759 I get lost all the time, but you know, it also lets 508 00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:42.440 me know where I like, I would I would think, like, what 509 00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:46.720 is kot talking about? But that I'm like Scout's brilliant. Worry about him 510 00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:51.039 yesterday where he said he was a very shy human being up until I think 511 00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:52.440 it was his late twenties. He said he had hardly he would never do 512 00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:54.599 interviews that kind of thing. As a player. He always had a tough 513 00:33:54.599 --> 00:34:00.160 time expressing himself. But then that once he began to, I guess learn 514 00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:01.960 how to do that. He says the best experience of life he ever had. 515 00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:06.200 I guess that was the beginning of Bill Walton truly becoming Bill Walton at 516 00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:09.360 that point. And I think everything you saw was you know, genuine in 517 00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:14.760 him being himself, which I loved. But there's also times where I'm like, 518 00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:16.440 Okay, I think he's trying to make a joke there, and it's 519 00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:21.960 actually hilarious. Because his son, Luke was named the head coach of the 520 00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:24.519 Los Angeles Lakers, and he was supposed to do a press conference, and 521 00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:29.559 he did do a press conference, but it was on the same night that 522 00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:32.280 Luke and his and Bill were going to go to a Grateful Dead concert. 523 00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:35.920 I'm sure they've gone to many, and Luke had to tell him, you 524 00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:38.559 know, hey, Dad, not going to be able to make the concert 525 00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:42.400 because you know, check this out. I just became the head coach of 526 00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:45.760 the Los Angeles Lakers and Bill Walton and Bill Walton didn't share this story. 527 00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:50.480 Luke did that. Bill Walton told him he's proud of him, but he 528 00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:54.239 does think he needs to reassess his priorities, which again is that that's Bill 529 00:34:54.280 --> 00:35:00.360 Walton being Bill Walton. I love all time, all time. Let's get 530 00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:02.320 to a quick break. We'll come back on the other side, wrap up 531 00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:07.599 the four o'clock hour, keep this thing rolling along. So the ACC. 532 00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:10.360 I didn't miss anything when I was gone about the ACC specifically, however, 533 00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:16.440 I think they're going to fight like hell to keep Clemson in Florida state because 534 00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:19.960 I think they have the ability to do that with this grant of rights. 535 00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:22.559 But I think there's some early signs as far as what direction they may go 536 00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:28.679 in if they ever have to, you know, exist without those two and 537 00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:30.280 I don't like it, but we'll talk about it next right here. Coffee 538 00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:37.000 and Company. Fil Beth Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety no joke the entire 539 00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:40.280 break there. I watched a ten watched as much as I could have a 540 00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:45.199 ten minute highlight mix of Bill Walton not playing, but just you know, 541 00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:49.719 many of the things he said during broadcasts, so Bill to sixty eight props 542 00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:52.519 to them. I don't know how they found all the great archived footage over 543 00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:55.480 the years, but good stuff. I won't you know, I won't play 544 00:35:55.480 --> 00:35:58.360 a whole lot more because I know, you know, even if you are 545 00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:02.119 somebody that is a of Bill Walton or just you know, appreciate everything he 546 00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:05.920 brought to the world. You know, we're not going to play everything, 547 00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:08.760 but I do want to share a clip of him describing Denny Crumb and really 548 00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:16.719 highlighting Denny Crumb's involvement. And maybe I'm under selling it by just saying involvement, 549 00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:22.000 but you know, he really made it quite clear Denny was hugely responsible 550 00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:24.920 for the great talent that John Wooden had to work with at UCLA. That 551 00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:28.559 of course led to, you know, one of the best runs you'll ever 552 00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:31.159 see in any sport. But I'll save that for the five o'clocker. We 553 00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:34.880 don't have a whole lot of time left here, but let's talk about the 554 00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:39.159 future of the ACC. So I was happy to know that the ACC is 555 00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:45.280 a league does not seem to be interested in letting Clemson in Florida State out 556 00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:47.360 of their agreement. And I don't mean like just letting them walk. They'd 557 00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:51.639 never do that. That'd be stupid. But there was some discussion maybe they'll 558 00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:53.760 let him go for eighty percent of what it would cost, and these two 559 00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:59.159 schools would be able to round up the money to do that, And it 560 00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:00.840 sounds like they're not going to do that. They're gonna, I mean, 561 00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:07.000 because the best case scenario for the ACC is that somehow they unify and the 562 00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:13.559 league finds a way to make themselves more valuable. And what's unfortunate there is 563 00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:17.119 that just by winning and being better and having a bigger presence in college football, 564 00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:21.440 as far as you know the hierarchy of it, that doesn't always mean 565 00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:25.000 you're gonna get more money from your TV deal. And like it or not, 566 00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:29.880 everybody in the league agreed to sign this grant of rights deal that runs 567 00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:32.880 till twenty thirty six while all these other leagues are getting more money than you. 568 00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:37.079 Every so often, you're locked in. And we all know that that's 569 00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:42.519 not an ideal thing. But Clemson in Florida State still being in the league 570 00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:46.880 gives the league its best chance of survival. And I find it to be, 571 00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:51.920 you know, more than interesting. I mean, it's unheard of really 572 00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:54.679 because everybody knows they want to leave. Everybody knows anybody in the ACC or 573 00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:58.519 SEC would leave if they could to go to the Big ten or the SEC. 574 00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:01.320 I mean that I say SECM in ACC. Everybody in the ACC would 575 00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:04.800 leave to go to the SEC or Big Ten if they could. And I 576 00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:07.960 think that if they could get out of the grant of rights, Clemson in 577 00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:12.280 Florida State would find a home somewhere. You know, Florida State probably ends 578 00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:15.159 up in the Big Ten. Heck, maybe both Florida State and Clemson end 579 00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:16.639 up in the Big Ten because that would give them presents in a place that 580 00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:20.960 the league doesn't have right now, meaning the Big Ten. So you know, 581 00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:27.119 if they are stuck together, I think that's best case scenario. But 582 00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:29.159 that's coming from a Louisville fan, right Like, if you're Clemson, like 583 00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:31.760 everybody knows that the league is does not look to be in great shape compared 584 00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:36.639 to the top two. And if you can be the third, meaning you 585 00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:39.639 can be the third best league outside of I mean, really you're you're in 586 00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:44.320 first place of the second division. And I hate to frame it that way, 587 00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:47.239 but like the SEC and the Big Ten, they have the power. 588 00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:51.400 The Big Ten doesn't have the success. They just won their first championship in 589 00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:52.360 how long, right like, and they're good. I'm not claiming that the 590 00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:57.920 ACC is a better league than the Big Ten in football, but think about 591 00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:00.800 that. Like the SEC has the power of the money and the success. 592 00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:05.639 The Big Ten they have relevance and they have good programs. But like they're 593 00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:08.119 not close to the SEC when it comes to like accomplishments, but you know, 594 00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:12.639 they've got humongous alumni bases and that matters. There's value there. They 595 00:39:12.679 --> 00:39:15.559 have huge brands that are valuable to you know, that help you get these 596 00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:23.239 lucrative television deals. So if you're third place and you're miles behind the other 597 00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:30.559 two, but maybe many miles ahead of everybody else, you're probably not happy. 598 00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:36.679 If you're Clemson and you know that South Carolina is quadrupling your annual revenue. 599 00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:42.440 If you are Florida State and you know that Florida in Miami specifically or 600 00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:45.719 no, Miami's in your league. But if you're Florida State and you're in 601 00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:52.519 you're Miami and you know that you're getting left behind Florida by three times four 602 00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:55.079 times the amount, maybe that's not as bad as Flida's actually a good program. 603 00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:59.480 South Carolina not as much. Historically. Let me give you a good 604 00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:06.119 example, because this could happen right the Big twelve. They will have two 605 00:40:06.239 --> 00:40:12.800 maybe three resets of contracts right TV deals like you know, because nobody does 606 00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:16.880 a twenty year one like Swafford did for the ACC. I don't I mean 607 00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:20.360 I don't think they can do anything about it. But can you imagine how 608 00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:23.960 pissed off Florida State and Miami would be to know that Central Florida may in 609 00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:28.960 five years make more money than them from their conference TV deal. Again, 610 00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:31.239 they're powerless, they can't do anything. They sign an agreement, but Central 611 00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:35.519 Florida ten to fifteen years ago wasn't even a Division one school. Like, 612 00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:37.760 think about that. Like, so they're going to fight it, but I 613 00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:40.159 just don't think they can. So the best case snary for the ACC is 614 00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:44.079 to stick together. But if they do get a way out, it sounds 615 00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:47.199 like Utah Sandy, like they would just go more in the West coast and 616 00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:52.199 make it like a national conference. But I don't know, Man, if 617 00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:55.800 you lose Florida State and Clemson, you could still exist as a league. 618 00:40:57.480 --> 00:41:00.159 But I don't know if you could. I mean, it would feel as 619 00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:04.599 if you're no longer really a part of a power league. And I hate 620 00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:06.440 to say that it all just comes down to those two, but like, 621 00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:08.559 let's be real here, those are the two big brands that have I mean, 622 00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:13.679 especially Clemson that has maintained relevance and even they're slipping, all right, 623 00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:15.679 quick break we'll come back on the other hour. One more hour to go 624 00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:16.360 right here on sports Stock seven to ninety