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Right now, we are joined by
a man that was one of the best

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pitchers of his generation, and certainly
a man that was known for his competitive

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spirit during his career that saw him
win two World Series titles, one with

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the Giants, the other with the
Boston Red Sox. He pitched eleven years

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in the nl West with the Padres
and San Francisco Giants. He's a cy

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Young Award winner, He's a triple
Crown winner. He's a three time All

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Star and now part of MLB Network's
coverage during the All Star break. He

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is a champion of the people,
the one and only Jake Peevey. Jake,

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thanks a lot for the time.
Appreciate it. What an introduction.

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It's an an honor to be here. I know Dodger fans may have mixed

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feelings. We have Dave Roberts in
common. Dave Roberts tied and put this

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bad blood together. And that's the
beautiful thing about post career. You don't

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have to hate or be enemies with
anybody. You can appreciate it all.

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You're such a nice guy. I
don't think anybody could hate you like they

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hated Madison Bumgardner. Well, I'll
tell you what Madison gave the Dodger nation

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a lot to hate. He was
one hell of a teammate, I'll tell

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you that. And I don't get
to carry around one of those titles of

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champion if it's not for number forty. Him and Yasielpwi come to mind when

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you talk about Dodgers giants in general, no doubt about it. And I

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guess before we move on Jake and
get into all that you mentioned Dave Roberts.

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You were teammates with him with the
Padres. Did you ever envision him

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being not only a manager, but
this successful of a manager doesn't surprise me

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one bit because a manager, he's
just got to know the game of baseball,

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but he's got to be able to
communicate and put it all together.

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And that's what the best that I
played for were able to do. They

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were incredible communicators. They could rally
the truth. The truth would rally around

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that person. That's who Dave is. And we've seen that come to fruition.

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You know, Look, we can
get deep into it. And I

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think the guy should have another world
title too, if another team's not cheating,

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and you know, so, look, I think if he does have

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that other world title, he's viewed
even differently than he is. Dave Roberts

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is a great manager and to no
surprise of anybody who's been a friend,

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teammateer around him. It's interesting you
brought that up twenty seventeen. If the

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Dodgers win that World Series championship,
Jake, the narrative surrounding two men,

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Dave Roberts and Clayton Kershaw are completely
different. Well, that's why I brought

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that up, David, is because
it needs to be in the peripheral when

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you're having that discussion, because there's
a huge asterisk by that, and it's

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the first thing that comes to my
mind when Dodger fans want to talk about

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who Dave Roberts is as a leader
as a manager, who the front office

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is? Look this front office since
I kind of when the changeover, when

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Andrew Freeman kind of came in,
there's been nobody front office wise, down

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through the on field product to the
off field marketing of the players that do

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it better than the Dodgers. And
that's just the truth in my opinions.

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Jake Peve is our guest, former
Major League pitcher now a great analyst on

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MLB Network. This will be Jake
Peeve's first All Star game, covering it

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for MLB Network during this All Star
break, and you'll see him on MLB

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Tonight and their coverage not only during
the All Star break but also in the

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second half of the season. Are
you seeing the game a little bit differently,

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Jake, being in the studio than
you did maybe in the dugout on

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the days you didn't pitch well so
much as went into it because of how

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much the game's changed, and you
can't be stubborn. I think it's kind

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of labeled on me that I'm a
non analytic guy, or I'm the opposite

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in the studio of Brian Kenney,
but that's not true. I've continued to

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try to stay evolved, evolving with
the game and to stay current and now

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having so many friends still within systems. Mike Napolis a first Bay coach and

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been with David Ross, but he's
still there now. He's under Craig Council

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learning wanting to be a manager.
Craig Breslow Chris Young two former teammates that

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are now successful general managers. Craig
Breslo in his first year doing Wonders in

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Boston See why and Boach and those
guys having the belt. So these guys

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were very close friends. Andrew Bailey, you know, who's now went over

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to join Breslow. You know,
the guys who I still have out there

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in the game are helping me stay
relevant and understand, you know, the

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new lingo. But the game is
the game. Winning baseball is winning baseball.

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You don't have to have anybody or
analytics tell you that. The when

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you watch the Dodgers play, you
understand if we're doing things the right way

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or the wrong way. And the
leaders that we're talking about in Dave Roberts,

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you know, still pushing the right
buttons awfully, you know good.

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Did you ever encounter the analytics towards
the end of your career, Jake,

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of course, yeah. No.
By twenty sixteen, they were, you

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know, coming on full board and
we were getting ready to take off with

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them in San Francisco. You know, it was kind of you know,

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and I think one of the things
where analytics went wrong is they pushed a

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lot of the experience and the older
guys and even the coaching staff managers Bochie

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out of San Francisco, I'm saying, And that was there was many more.

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That was I think where the analytics
went wrong. It just didn't it

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valued a young and upcoming star with
somebody who had years of experience and maybe

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didn't metric out as well, but
had those invaluable and intangibles that that add

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so much to a ball club.
And I you know, it was a

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tough mix because those guys wanted to
hold on and listen to the guys who

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had had taught them the game,
and then guys were you know, in

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suits telling them, no, this
is how you got to look at it,

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and there wasn't really a marriage to
that. It was kind of a

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hostile takeover. Yeah, that's one
way to put it, for sure.

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Jake Tevee is our guest, and
look, I side with you, Jake.

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I feel like analytics certainly has a
place in the game, but a

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three year sample size is not going
to help any manager win tonight. And

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maybe the macro of a one sixty
two marathon doesn't really reflect how you deviate

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or how you manage a game in
the postseason. I think the play a

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big part in it. David.
I think you're you're all over and what

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you just said, and the Dodgers
get this right, just said, I

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don't want to weave in front of
all of sudden better. They are heavily

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analytically driven, and I think over
the macro that stuff can really play out

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in place of your advantage. We
talk about winning championships. That's a whole

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different story now winning baseball, and
you can throw some of the analytics out

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the window, and they need to
take a little bit of a back seat

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to game management and field and I'm
talking to maybe like decisions and I I

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hate to bring this up because I'm
not throwing shade at anybody, but I'm

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just going back and playing Monday morning. Quarterback Tyler Anderson coming out of that

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game in San Diego was an analytical
decision. It seemingly. Hilary Loretta was

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sitting next to me, not watching
the game at all, and just said

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to me, I'm so glad they
took that left hander out of the game.

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We had no chance for him.
They didn't care that graderral was you

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know what I'm saying, Just a
normal casual fan who was watching the game

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had the feel of it of gosh, we have a better chance versus anybody

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but that guy. And so I
think when you get to the playoffs,

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you have to match that feel because
you're riding a hot hand. Bruce Bochi's,

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you know, playing his hot hand
that given night might go against what

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the matchup says, but in the
playoffs, I believe that stuff wins championships.

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Two time World Series champion Jake Peevey
knows all about it. He is

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our guest. He's on MLB tonight's
coverage of the All Star Game and certainly

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their coverage during the entire baseball season. And Jake, that brings me to

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the question twenty twenty four, how
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chances to get through the National League. Well, look, I still view

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him as the class of the league. We have some big issues. I'll

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start with the two teams behind you. I think Arizona's in real trouble,

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potentially missing the dance. San Diego
certainly has issues, but they're coming.

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The Giants certainly have issues, but
they're coming if they get some healthy pieces

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back, and that leads us to
the Dodgers. You have a seven and

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a half game lead. We've got
some When Mooki and Max Munty are back

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in this lineup, it gives it
the length and look, especially with ta

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Oscar providing the way he is.
When you put those two bodies back in

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this Dodger lineup, it becomes a
lineup like kind of the Phillies are on

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the opposition tonight. They're a complete
lineup. You saw last night, seven

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through nine of that Philly team beat
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game last night. That's incredible.
When you're getting that kind of production and

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you're winning games like they did last
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other than Trey Turner goes over.
So the Dodgers to me, when you

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get Mookie and Max back, you're
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when I just mentioned Tray Turner,
I wish we wered have signed Trey Turner

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and that short stopposition would have been
his because since he he's been himself in

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August and he got used to Philly, he's been the best player in the

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National League. And I think that
contract is gonna be the best one out

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of that winner signed over the length
of it. The way he plays the

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game and gets older, smarter and
looks as good as ever. But the

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Dodgers also on the same side.
We're just beat up in a pitching way.

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Of my gosh, if you look
at since Yamamoto went on now Glass

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now and on and on with the
names, we've just you got a seven

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and a half game lead that you're
gonna be able to hold that lead throughout

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the second half. We've just got
to get healthy and poised and really respond

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onto being punched in the mouth the
last few years in the postseason. Just

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get there with an edge. And
I believe your leadership not only with Dave

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Roberts, but on the team.
Freddie Freeman wants another title. He's a

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world champion. Muki Betts wants another
one. Will Smith stud all Star,

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Tay Oskar's riding that way show Hey's
the best player on the planet. It

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can happen. You just got to
get in the playoffs healthy with those guys

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motivated. I can't talk to Jake
Peevee without asking him about future Hall of

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Famer Clayton Kershaw. You've competed against
him, you obviously respect him. Do

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you believe that he'll be able to
come back and look like himself after a

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major shoulder surgery? Jake, it
scares me. A major shoulder surgery is

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not anything guaranteed, and anybody who
knows about it. Will tell you that,

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and that's just the facts of it. What I will tell you is

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Clayton Kershaw's as good as anybody to
maybe ever do it. He's in the

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question of as good as anybody to
ever do it. And greatness comes with

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long and Clayton has just been the
model of all of that. Greatness and

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longevity is all encompassing. Clayton Kershaw, the Dodger fans should be lucky to

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have him, and none of the
negativity should be allowed to see finn it

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does when we get older in our
career and don't produce and we're not healthy.

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But I'm just very glad that we
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back. I think Clayton is as
mentally strong as anybody I've ever met.

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You can't do what he's done without
it. The mind's a powerful thing in

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the body. You know, Clayton's
gonna work and do all of his rehab,

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and I know he's doing that.
I'll have a lot more feel maybe

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talking to some guys today. As
I told you, I'm on the way

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of the ballpark. But Clayton Kershaw, this is all you need to know.

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He's as good as maybe anybody ever
do it? Are you kidding me?

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The Dodgers have Sandy Kofax and Clayton
Kershaw, the two best left handers

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of all time to hang their hat
on. Possibly, I hope to see

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him one more time doing what we've
seen him do for so long. Man,

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Jake Peebe, you got me fired
up. Throw that suit. You

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got to take the mound for the
Dodgers. They need to forget about training

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for somebody. How about just signing
Jake Peevey. I tell you what what

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you've got coming off the IL and
what you've got in that minor league system.

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The arms, you've got plenty coming. Mark Pryor is another friend,

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former teammate. You guys are going
to be just by well. You brought

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up Mark Pryor. You and Mark
Pryor had the best bent caps in baseball

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history. When you used to bend
your bill like prior, Yo, you

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knew game was on PV me and
Prior matched up in the minor leagues in

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Double A and then got to do
it all through the big leagues. And

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gosh, what a shame that he
couldn't stay healthy because he would have been

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in that conversation of the best to
ever do it. The stuff out of

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this world, IQ betch Ability all
there, man. I love Jake Pevy.

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That's why it was. I knew
it was going to be a tough

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day when you saw him on the
mound at Dodger Stadium. Two time World

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Series Champion, triple Crown winner.
I mean, people don't give you the

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love because you're so humble. You
had one of the great careers in recent

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memory, Jake, and it's an
honor to have you on the show,

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and I hope to meet you one
day in beautiful Santiago. I look forward

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to the same, my friend.
Thanks for having me all