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you so. Without further ado, we have my friend here, Luis back
on to give us an update on the Mexican alien bodies that were revealed during
the Mexican UFO congressional hearing. And I think this is a really important thing
to go back and discuss because sometimes you can be wrong about things, but
I don't think we were wrong about what we talked about last time. How's
it going, Louis good to see you, my friend. Hi? Everyone,
good to see you too, right there, Yeah, it's good to
have you back on. And so I guess the good place to start with
this is to give a good refresher on what kind of happened, because this
to just be like a little blimp on the radar of everything that's going on
with UFOs and Extra Treasturial and definitely the news cycle. It seemed like it
was just a little period of time there where everyone got it up in an
uproar and then they went on and moved on to the next thing, right,
So I think it's important to give a refresher for people that are listening
that might not have heard about this or seen our last show together when we
first talked about this, when they were first revealed by the Mexican government.
So let's go back to the beginning. And get how this really started from
your perspective. Use Okay, so here in Mexico we have our UPHA SuperStar's
high mouse and he pushes all the way to our Mexican Congress to make a
hearing if you want to collect hearing because they us no hearing was just like
like a symposium or organized by our congress. And he started this congress with
uh, real evidence. I can say, maybe not that real, but
maybe we can say serious persons talking about UPS because this committee of the Congress,
it's talking about the importance of the awareness of the UP phenomenon and the
security of the Mexican airspace. So really quick, do we know when this
was planned? Was this planned for a long time the Mexican UFO congressional hearing
or was this like a spare of the moment thing, because we didn't get
any information about this in the United States until everyone started freaking out about the
fake parties that were revealed. It start with the with your first you for
hearing in the United States, with Dave and all that. Okay, yeah,
well well that from the beginning, from the two intelligence Navy Navy intelligence
officers that were when when to the Congress from Ryan Graves and Captain Uh no,
no, no, the two Navy Navy officers former officers. No no,
no, ex officers, real officers. I remember when when that would
have been with this other couple of years ago. No, no, was
maybe one year ago. I wasn't aware of any other congressional hearing other than
the one that just recently happened with Dave Grush and Ryan Graves and Captain blinking
on what his his name was Favor, Captain Fravor. Yeah, that's the
only one that I was aware of, but there might have been another one.
I know Stephen Greer did has done several of them in the past,
and he actually did one right before the one with Dave Gresh and Fravor and
Ryan Graves, like a week or two before that one was was the one
that settled down the the at the what you said, this uh this new
office that is running the U a P. Topic. Yeah, yeah,
when days when they set up Arrow, they have a hearing with these two,
with these two guys, they present the the mets, uh the pyramids
of the Oh you're you're talking about the when they came out and said that
the footage was real, that there were actual real UFOs. Okay, all
right, gotcha continue. So it was set up from that point on rest
plant since then, Okay, yeah, yeah, mouth sign. I think
that that was a good idea that if if, if, if America,
the United States of America, it's doing it, maybe they can they can
push and something can happen, and it happens. He finds a good a
lie on on the Congress congressman, Ah, we can talk about it a
little after letter to say about something about him. He's trying to run for
a for a for a for a for a governor of one state here in
Mexico. But let's take it get back from our context. So he he
put together this thing of getting testimonies from from respectable from from real people.
Getting here was Avilay people from Congress in Japan. What's a what's a real
real thing? Nothing? Nothing was spectacular at that moment. So he think
was interesting to make a surprise and throw two voices ofterrestrial beings. He said
that was presented in the Congress, and all these media media phenomenon found UH
and it happened. A lot of memis, tons of of UH media outlets
came with the story of Mexico presenting two exterrestrial beings on the Congress. So
here in Mexico gets backfire and a lot of support as normal for himing he
always have to have a lot of a lot of people that hate him,
a lot of him that loved him. So it became something on the community
and the community here, but more like a joke on the community, on
the United States and in the world. So this was just to clarify.
This Mexican Congressional UFO hearing was basically an exhibition, right, it wasn't There
wasn't anybody under oath during this. It was a symbolic under oath. Correct,
Yeah, that the testimony of the presence didn't was wasn't solicited by the
Congress. So if I didn't ask, your answer can be whatever you want,
so that they make a note and a symbolic oaths. Mhm. But
here in Mexico, the the figure of of how do you say, peruisio
a false statement? Uh h? In a place like like the Congress,
in a situation like that, it doesn't exist. They're in the Congress,
the testimony was asked by the Congress, and they were on the road in
behalf of the Congress here. No. Yeah, And you were talking earlier
about how things are really done in Mexico, how you can just be uh,
just say whatever you want to say and then people kind of believe it.
Right. You can say that you're a part of the Navy, you
say that you're a part of the Air Force. You can say that you're
a UFO expert like him Masan is saying that he is, and then people
believe it, and then you are that. And that's kind of the same
way that it works in the United States in this field. Right, you
can be a UFO whistleblower, have absolutely no background. You can be an
insider. You can be a UFO insider and have no credentials to support you
being an insider. It's just a title as something that's given to you.
It's literally the only thing in this realm, the sphere that you don't have
to have anything backing up your title. You could just be whatever it is
that you want to be. It's really wild how ufology in the spiritual community
and the New Age community can just do that, you know, like it
would be like in any other profession. You can't just walk into a hospital
and say that you're a doctor, right, you have to have something backing
up your title. But in this field, you don't have to have anything
backing up your title. You can be whatever you want to be. You
could be a whistle blower in the United States for UFOs and uifology if you
wanted to, or you can have a background in other things and say you
are specialists in in UFOs. So you are a journalist, but you have
three years of journalism, but now you are a UFO expert. So here's
something that that happens in this community and and some communities that they think that
it's like a natural thing that you you are. You're an expert of UFOs.
So you don't have nothing to prove because obviously all this conspiracy, it's
tracking you to make you look like stupid or you you didn't go to school
or university, so that that's the problem. So you are you don't need
to have background. Yeah, it's unbelievable. So let's fast forward here a
little bit since our last discussion. What has happened since they wrote out these
uh fake extradustrial bodies? Have they done studies on them since the last time
we discussed, Have there been scientists that's examined them. Have there been further
DNA tests done on these bodies? So the thing didn't get well for for
I may here in Mexico with the with the scientific community have a lot of
backfire on social media. So he think was a good idea to make the
body, or at least one body analyze it in the presence of a notary
so he can say that the analysis was really done to the body. So
the people here and maybe in other parts of the world watching it with very
little preparation education, think that the notary make it real. The notary just
give testimony and say they do what they do. There's nothing to do with
scientific on a notary. So he took the bodies to on disclosure location because
he didn't want to to say where was the the analysis and put in a
show, a live show for this analysis. He took the members of her
crew they produce it. He took one of the of the doctors that was
presented on on the Congress, doctor Salse that he says, well, just
he works in the Navy here in Mexico. But the Navy then endorse him
about these beings of these bodies, So like we say, to work for
someone, but there's nothing to do with what you do on your spare time.
No H. So they get the bodies analyzed and invite two m D
two doctors, one radiologist and one orthopedic, and they run the series of
analysis. They do AU tomography, they do X ray. So I think
they didn't do the right questions because it was ruled by by Hymen's true.
They tried to to make attendance to what they are saying that it's true and
trying to do it very very carefully. Because these guys, these two doctors
wasn't paid They say, I want to go and see what's happened and give
my opinion. But since they weren't paid off by him Mason, then Amerson
is not going to let them do that, or they're not going to ask
the right questions, or the evidence is going to be inconclusive. Right now,
what did they find and what did they say about the X rays?
Of Okay, the information and the conclusion they they have was that some parts
of the body look coherent. They have joints, they have the right structors.
Uh, don't look like something put together in some parts, but also
some parts. They think that they need more study like the eggs. They
say, maybe we need some ultrasound to to to see what it's inside and
what is it. We need to make more studies about the part of the
body that is the peltries. They found that there is no joints through the
We can say this is extratro rascial, so we we can compare it with
with the human body. They say, the Fermour didn't have the joint that
it's needed to fit in the pelvis. Two can move the legs and rotated
and walk. Very very very interesting because doctors doctor Selza that was there on
the hearing on the Congressional healing say that these guys were fast and now super
fast because they have a three three dactyl feed and hands that they make it
like a guitardo like a wolverin. Well, they found out that it's not
possible. He's trying to say that this thing walks on all fours yeah,
yeah, And and they found that the structures on the hands and on the
on the feet don't look like there was a lot of mobility on it.
Uh. They don't have two bones on the forearm, so they can rotate
the foreum. Some some finding some very weird findings that doctors are saying.
The person from himosance team try to make it the story straight, saying that
these were this was cutissial means maybe they have different structures. Maybe they don't
have knees because there is no knee on the Fame or and the TV.
So they say, no, no, no, no, maybe this is
this is different structures and anohingy and I and I and I think, so
why you get a specialists, human specialist to get something that isn't human?
So there's no sense. Yeah you when I say this is different, so
nothing you can find here, it's it's applicable. Sounds like there's going to
be an excuse for everything on Heimimassan's part. Right if they come back and
they say, oh, well, there's no way that this think walk around.
The vertebrates in his back doesn't allow it to move and bend over and
pick things up, and then he'll be like, oh, well I walked
on all fours or oh I didn't even need it. Because it's an extraterrestrial
being, it's gonna be yeah, yeah, exactly, it flies, it's
a dragon, it turns moreson turns into a dragon. You don't. You
don't know, so I I really don't don't believe this is story. But
if if I see real evidence, I can doubt. But more and more
the story comes, it's it's even easier for me to say this is this
is a fake, this is a joke, this is cam It's it's very
clear. Now, did these scientists find any metal in the body of these
supposed extraterrestrial mummies, because I'm pretty certain that the Peruvian mummies, and we
talk talked about us before the show started, the proven Peruvian mummies had like
a metal plate inside of its skeleton in the chest, and I think some
sort of metal plate in the neck, and some metal plates around the hands
of them. This new X ray show any metal parts because according to what
I know, they had to create some sort of joints, and sometimes when
they created the joints, they would have to put some sort of metal in
there to create the joints of these beings. Were there any metal found?
There was no metal on the joints. There was a plate of metal on
the chest of the bean. But especially say that this this plate can hold
the whole structure of the of the body. But as as we talked earlier,
h these kind of analysis really can determine if this is made of or
not. And in the beginning of the of the show especially say it we
can we can say that it's made of or not. We we just say
that that there are bones, and yes, there are bones. There's nothing
else with these analysis, with this equipment that we can say. So they
didn't make a comment about animal bones or that did they date the bones at
all? Do they do any now says they tried to not go there,
that the presenter tried to not go there. But in some point one of
the specialties say, uh, this kind of look like like like like boy,
like a child bone. So fast the presenters say, oh, you
are saying that this is child bones and they especially saying no, for me,
don't look like But they didn't say no, this is not animal bones.
They said its bones. And the other finding that it's it's relevant.
They found that the density of the bones, it's not regular. One bone
have one density and the other bone have a density a different density that is
for them was weird, which really just solidifies the idea that it's been mutilated
and mutilated carcass. It's been taken from animal bones from inche improving mummies.
I mean, I'm pretty sure that the Previan government is has nothing to do
with Haimi Massan because they know that he uh he faked news with more bones
and dead ancient Peruvian carcasses. Yeah, correct your knowledge. In fact,
we we are. We were talking about it last time. There was a
a sue, a lawsuit on on the bodies from the from the Cultural Department
of the Peruvian government. Yeah, and the result of the lawsuit was these
bodies wasn't ancestral or archeological things. So you can do whatever what you want.
These are dolls. This are fakes. So you can transport it,
you can travel it, you can sell it. There's no no, there's
nothing to do with the with the government of Peru. So now the government
is is very up it because they are faking things on behalf of Peru,
and Peruit is trying to get out of this backfire of things that they they
are stupid and they didn't investigate these things and something like that. In fact,
yesterday yeah, I said, I think Sunday Peruban government make an statement
about two more bodies that were sended from Peru to Mexico, and they founded
a DHL installation and they ride the installation and took the boys. Were these
supposed to be supposed extraterrestrial bodies or were they just entering proving skeleton looks very
similar to these extraterrestrial beings. I may I took the took the the history
and say that that this was made of from one guy he knows, but
he thinks that they are real, but he can trust but we will see
what's happened. Ye, yeah, I think they were. They were send
it to himI and get caught, and he had to say, I'll see
I know these and and and but this is a difference, and I don't
know. He's trying to go away. What's the chances of fraudster and scammer
concocting these supposed extraterrestrial bodies making them out of animal bones? Inch Improuvian skeletons
were dug up, putting them all together, some of them, creating the
joints, taking the fingers off, creating new joints, putting metal plates inside
of them, and then taking them back to a burial site and planting them
and then having some researchers to come about and just discover them so that the
researchers or these people didn't know that they were fake, and then they present
them as real. Do you think that the scam and the grift goes that
deep to where they would knowingly put together one of these beans and then go
drop it back off at a burial site or a gravesite, or put it
inside of a cave like these supposed Heimi Massan extraterrestrials were found supposedly in a
cave in Peru. Do you think that they would go that far to do
that. We can go deep on that road if you want just a little.
So here in Latin America we have a lot of archaeological sites. Years
after years of tourism, of first first World tourism, have come here to
see our archaeological sites. It's a very common practice all over Latin America that
people from the years of the archaeological site made of things, made of archeological
things to sell to the tourists. I can tell you, oh that this
is a piece a replica of of statue. But if you want the real
deal, I can find it. I have a friend that can find you
the real the real status. So you say, yes, it's okay.
So I selled you one the real thing that isn't real, and it's very
profitable because I can, I can put the number I want. This is
a real archeological, imagine Peruvian Aztec thing, and you will and you will
bide it because I am a local. And you say, oh, yeah,
I can. I got one piece, a real piece of that.
So I scam you. So this is this is a very common thing upon
Latin American cultures. So this thing that goes away and too far is one
of the things. This guy, the guy that founded the tomb braider do
that for living. Yea, he made up things for living. So he
made it and and and take it to this guy I was I was told
you know that this guy Chieri, I mean a very poemic French guy that
is sitting there in cost Coperu in Nikai think in Peru and making their own
research about the city of Eldorado and things like that. Yes, and you
just uncovered. You just said something very important right there that I hope people
were really paying attention to. Because I've seen these things before. I've seen
these ancient relics that are supposedly have been dug up in the desert of Peru
or in Mexico and all these places. I actually had someone on my show
that presented them, and I was I held them in my hands and I
didn't want to tell them at the time. I was like, bro,
like, these aren't real. You paid like two thousand dollars for these.
Uh these this fake extraterrestrial mask and this fake supposed extraterrestrial skull, you know,
but they look real. They feel very real, you know. But
my whole skepticism of it was, well, if this person is just and
it's exactly like what you said is from a friend from a friend that lives
in Peru that they do the exchange with and you pay your friend, and
then that friend pays the other friend and then he sends it to you and
the mail. You know, But they look really real. They look like
that they were just dug up out of the ground. They got old mud
and old dirt and stuff on them. And I was like, well,
if this gentleman can just go out into the desert and just dig this stuff
up randomly and find this stuff, why hasn't this area been escavated. Why
hasn't archaeological archaeological people came in and escavated all of these areas where you just
every time you go to this site you're finding ancient alien artifacts of ancient skulls
and ancient alien mask and crystal and all that. In the case of this,
of these mummies, of these alleged mummies, is because the place is
secret and this is and this is one part of the things that you say,
well, this is this is a red flag. Why does this have
to be secret? There is no archeologist finding these things. This waketo this
tone writer find it and take it with him to they I mean to in
carry institute. That is the problem, that's the main problem. Why not
open it to to all the archeologic community that I think and I know because
that archeology archeology community here in Latin America it's huge. It's the biggest community
of all the world. We have a lot of things to research, a
lot of people every year become archaeologist. It's it's come on, think here.
And I'm not saying that everything you can find and in a calculator side
it's fake. Huh. There are people that'll find that that it really can
give you real things. But not every time they go to the deserts.
Come on, there ain't no way that you can make a replica of something,
sell them the replica of that, and then say that you can get
the real thing, and then all of a sudden just magically go out into
the desert and start digging and then find that exact same thing that you made
a replica of. No possible way ever exactly. But that's a really important
thing to bring up, and I'm really glad that you brought that up because
people I see them all over Instagram, these ancient alien artifacts or whatever the
glow have you seen those? They put them out under a black light and
they glow like a weird greenish bluish collar and they're like I have seen one
a lot of like u FO discs full of ja wars uh birds and Ali
heads and looked and really looked like I imagine archeology but fake. It's unbelievable.
And that's like an industry, and I've known people that spend thousands of
dollars on this stuff. Dude, it's unbelievable, Like holy cramp, Like
you're you're just throwing away your money for a bunch of fake products. That
are provably false and provably fake. But the thing about it is that these
people hype it up so good. Like the people that sold sold them and
stuff. They're like, oh, yes, this is this was carbon dated
to two thousand years ago. There was a science scientist that there was a
DNA analysis that was done, a carbon dating that was done that dates it
back to three thousand years ago. You know, like it gets people all
hooked in and then they then they believe it and they think that they have
something real that the scam and the grift is really good on that, And
I'm glad we just talked about it because that's something very important. And I
literally see it all the time. I see it on Instagram all the time,
people having these uh these artifacts supposed ancient alien artifacts that put it under
a black light and it has a weird greenish shoe or a blue issue that
they're saying that the frequencies from the aliens are coming off of that the ancient
aliens had touched them and that's why they're growing glowing this weird green hue.
It's wild, dude. Yeah, yeah, But but I think and we
can we can move to the to the next thing. That happens here in
Mexico, and I can I can make my point on why the the scientific
community sometimes I have a lot of ego and don't get down to these kind
of things. And it's very easy for them to to this credit and to
get down to the level of hyme and wrap pripp him off. But they
don't have the They have a lot of ego and they don't want to do
that and spare time on that. But here in Mexico, after two weeks
off of the analysis and the presented the presenting of the bodies, a group
of scientifics on on the University of Mexico on them UH made a congress about
UH racial life and why a recial life, the search of recal life is
important, whether the the the research, the state of the art about recial
life. And they just rip off him. They just punch him one another,
keep it punching it until he died. They say this is fake.
They I think, I think, I really think they do the right thing,
but maybe they can do better. Really, I'm a chemical engineering and
I really I think that I came I became part of the of the scientific
community here in Mexico. So I think they need to to make a better
effort. They need to to investigate a little bit more, because if you
can defeat it these kinds of things in the in in her own field,
we can do it better here with with with science, I think we can
make a TikTok, a real TikTok from a real science t saying why this
isn't real with with evidence. But really they they maybe they just tire of
himz histories, but they just say this isn't real. This they took the
analysis that these Peruvian archeologists did to uh smaller bodies, the one that you
find on internet that says that there is a lama head, turn it around,
ripped off some parts the bones and pulled together. They took that thing
and presented like these the these bodies are the same bodies. And I think
that that was lame. They they will they can do better. But the
the damage to the to the ego of him was done, really done.
He really he get upset. Yes, I've heard that he is very upset
online and being kind of disgruntled with people. No bull truth. Thanks so
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up the Truth and we will do. Thanks so much, No bull Truth.
Appreciate your kindness and support of the show. My friend. This really
see people are acting like this is the first time anything like this has ever
happened. Do you remember Stephen Greer bringing out that tiny alien that he claimed
was an extraterrestrial I don't remember the still green the thing, but I may
have a lot of little excesa beans. Okay, so this was the one
that Stephen Greer presented as the tiny mummy extraterrestrial back I don't know, several
years ago, the stupid freaking ads but and that turned out to be a
tiny, mutilated, a bortal, aborted human fetus. Okay, that's what
that turned out to be. And he hyped it up as a as an
extraterrestrial body as well. So this isn't the first time with Heini Massan and
people faking extraterrestrial alien bodies. Stephen Greer did it before. So there you
go for people thinking that this is the first time that it's ever been done.
Stephen Greer was the first to do it. So yeah, that's Coolee
says, I feel the plaster aliens are an insult to my intelligence. Yeah,
they look like they were baked in a microwave for too long or put
in the oven for too long. But the plaster was there to cover up
the alterations to the body, right, Yeah, But the x ray analysis,
the tomography didn't didn't see or didn't analyze the skin. Why they don't
do h skin analysis at the uh chemical analysis to the to the skin took
a part of the skin and take it to a laboratory to see under microscope
to make a chemical real chemical tests. They don't do that. They know
what they know what they are doing, so they don't do the things that
are gonna go against the narrative. Yeah, that's really interesting in the plasters
covering up the ability to be able to test the skin of the of the
beans too. Do you have any idea what that has the plaster been tested?
Do we know that if the plaster is real plaster or like what that
has been made out of that dust? Uh that is on on them.
It's uh dietomea. I don't know how to say it in English. M
hmm, I say, I don't say I like that. Scottie Boy says
it was a space plaster. That's right, it's from the extraterrestrial galactic ships
that to preserve the bodies of the extraterrestrials on Earth, just like the ancient
Egyptians would do back in the day, wrapping them up all in uh dietto
man seaweed seaweed. Yeah, back in back in thousand years, thousands of
years, that part of Peru was sea, was the sea. So the
dust that in that part, it's a seaweed, a fossilated fossilicit seaweed.
But that doesn't mean anything that That's that's why I always say to my friends
and to all the people that I know that that the presence of these dust
doesn't mean that the thing was buried under the surface of this dust. You
can put the dust and take it, sprinkle it on like some salt exackly,
that's right, Throw a little papp around there to spice him up a
little bit. Uh So, how many people, in your estimate, Louis
and people in Mexico actually believed that these were real extraterrestrial bodies, And how
many of them do you think still believe that these were real extraterrestrial bodies?
He may has kind of in a live show, have around three thousand viewers.
Wow, you many, Holy crow. So so I think so.
I think maybe ten thousand people think about it. We are one one hundred
and eighty meetings. How many how many people would you guess to me?
Though I know that this is just ambiguous and uh theoretical, how many people
in Mexico do you think are actually interested in this time? Is there a
lot of people in Mexico that are interested in you have ology and extradrustrials and
aliens like like I say, and I want to apologize to everyone. I
don't know. This is not personal. I'm not trying to make fun of
anything for anyone. We are underdeveloped country. We have a lot of things
to do with our education. We are formal education. We have a lot
of problems of the guys getting get enough of the school and in very early
ages because the lack of opportunities, the lack of jobs, of well paid
jobs. It's it's it's difficult, and for me it's at but it's it's
very easy here in Mexico, uh to to to see people coming up with
with with very fantastic stories, with products, with miracle products, and I
will well received here. But just because of that, we are very underdeveloped
society. Still we are trying, really we are trying to to change that.
And that is why the spaces like these and spaces that are opening on
YouTube for for scientific for scientific purposes, to bring the scientific knowledge back from
for for for all the people's for all the people that that have a YouTube
account and something like that. But but it's had. But it's true.
Kime has thirty plus years of career and and he I think ninety percent of
the time have has has a TV show, so he have he have a
public so he it's a sellable product, so Himimazon's TV shows basically like Engine
Aliens in the United States from Mexico, So can were here or don't don't
don't don't have don't have that knowledge of the ancient Aliens type of things.
But you know what I mean though, like the stories within the Engine Aliens
and the embellishment and that thing of stories will be even boring. He likes
to put the things that are flashy and and very strocopics, like videos of
UFOs and uh and news about it that they found a which they found the
dwarf things like that. Mm hmmm. It's more like like ancient aliens,
but with lesso steroids. I don't know how you can get lots of hysterics
and each and aliens each aliens. It's pretty pretty entertaining, really, Yeah,
yeah, I would say that it was entertaining. So he's basically just
preying upon low intellect people, is kind of what you're saying, correct.
I think, not not low intellect, but low formation, low low school
formation, low formal education. Because that with with I think with high school
or or I know, I don't say college, but with high school education
here in Mexico, you can spot really easy that Imad's lying on some things
and and presenting things that that we don't know if I are real or not,
because, like like I tell you the last time, he presents things
that that recycles from from up community in the United States. Mm hmm.
So he's not only talking about stories made up, fake stories, but he's
also ripping people off by regurgitating and recycling their information exactly. Hmm. Sounds
like a cult. Sounds like a UFO colt him Mimison's running down there.
Yeah, so I can I can give your audience the last news about this
and what's going to happen next. Yeah, there will be a second hearing,
the second one. Yeah, put that in your calendar November seventh this
year, November November seven. Oh yeap, what are they? What do
what do we know about it? What are they gonna be talking about?
What are they gonna present? Uh, They're gonna present the amendment to our
aerospecial law here in Mexico. That is like the main events. Both High
messay is that he will present and I will get to that later. A
new scientists scientists that are gonna say that the mom is a real ah,
very well known uh plastic surgeon in Peru. They they they call it the
surgeon of the stars. So so you can you can imagine this guy.
They they they say, they say that I hear that they are trying to
to present some someone from NASA. I don't know. I don't know what
what's gonna be. Who's gonna be a former NASA what or I don't know.
I don't know. After a grush getting back from getting here, someone
someone serious gonna end up messing with with Kimi. But yeah, we we
were gonna have a second hearing on the Congress. Uh, as I say,
as I say, uh, the the congressman that is pushing this forward.
It's trying to run for the governor of one state here in Mexico.
So there's no thing. There's no such thing as a bad publicity. Know.
They say, I can't believe they're going to do another one. When
the US Congressional hearing, the congressmen and women from that hearing said that they'll
never do another one, and they've grushed in present any fake alien bodies.
So it's interesting that you just had a bunch of stories. It has no
evidence and no you know proof for that you heard from other people talking about.
But it's interesting that the Mexican government would do another one with himI Massan,
and you're seeing that they're going to bring out some scientists and some experts
to confirm that the bodies were real. Yeah. I uh. Sunday,
I was watching the show of the Mossan show because I always keep an eye
on that. I really don't like that Masan getting getting with with her own
story. And I try everything I can to push for the foots backwards from
from the their stories and the narrative on on my Twitter, and I try
what I what I can, so I have to keep an eye on what
he's saying. So he presents this Perubian journalist that was on the on the
congressional hearing, Joyce Mantilla. He's like the the counterpart there in Peru and
inside of Mausan, and he presents, did this guy I have her name
here? Let me check it out very quickly. I don't see how they're
going to get anybody that has any kind of credibility to go to this new
UFO Mexican here. I mean, Ryan Graves already backpeddled on the whole thing
and made like a huge apology tweet that he was even involved in it.
So I don't know how they're gonna get anybody from the United States or anybody
even from around the world that is somewhat credible to go to another one of
these events that. Let me let me read you the resume of this guy.
He's a member of the New York Academy of Science. So I made
my research for you to be For me to be a member of the New
York Scientific Academy of Science, we need to pay one hundred and thirty bucks
a year and we can get members of the of the New York Academy of
science. Pay the play baby, that's how it works. He had thirty
five years of experience in medicine, was past president of the Peruvian Society of
Forensic Medicine, doctor David ruz Vela. So I searched it, so he
is, I don't know how to put it, like, uh, there
there is a show here well, a discovery of two plastic chairans the Beverly
Hills. They do a show. They go and people go and they make
the plastic cher jury. It's a show. It's like just like that.
A guy like that, So he joins Mantia the journalist present a little extract
of of a pralistic note. Mh. And this guy was making the research.
He have a laptop, he have a white clothes so he can interpretate
the role of the specialist. And he say again that and have a scan
on the on the computer and and the top part and the and the worte
part of the computer. Says that he have to pay for the listens because
it was a free software. Okay, I think that he is a specialist
and maybe he can pay for the software. But nerman, Uh, he
have a scan, a treaty scan, very different to what we saw on
the tomography he have a scan with with tissue and bins and and and things
like that, it really looks incredibly real. What's three D. And he
was saying that there there was some spots where the fluid the blood was running
and was very you can see it very clear. And and so then he
was moving to another part of this thing and he was with I think three
or four medals on the chest, very weird, and Joyce saying that the
generally say, oh, these medals are for the community, for the forensic
community. They are the specialists in the emerging point. The forensic community see
the medals and know what they are. And they didn't say what didn't say
to us what they are. But a really bizarre show. And I found
that this doctor have a a very polemic background. He believes on the cure
of homosexuality. Very weird. So this is one of the guys that's going
to come here in Mexico for the congressional hearing. Wow, sounds like a
bunch of frauds and scammers for the new UFO Congressional Mexican Hearing. Holy crap,
dude. But you know how you were talking about how they take advantage
of the let's say uneducated in Mexico. It's the exact same thing here within
the community. It's people getting taken advantage of that are mentally unwell, mentally
unstable, the uneducated people. That's how they get wrapped up into this this
community as well. So it's really no different here in that regard, in
that aspect of what you're talking about. You know, everyone's you know,
all in line for the fantastical stories you know of thirty three galactic Federation lightships
are going to land next week or next month or next year or whenever,
and then it never happens, and it's never true. We're alien abductions or
alien implants. It's the same thing that's being regurgitated over and over again for
a new audience of people to come and listen to you and to believe in.
You know, it's the exact same thing here, and I suppose the
exact same thing everywhere where vulnerable people are taking advantage of, where uneducated people
are taking advantage of, where mentally unwell or mentally unstable people are also taking
advantage of. So truly no different. But when so that's all that we're
looking for for this this next congressional here have they They've booked all the people
that are going to come and testify, and we're thinking that they're going to
come out and say that these bodies are real. These scientists are going to
come out and say, oh, yeah, we did the analysis, we
did the schematics, we did the X rays on these beans, and it
turns out that they're real, even though that they can't walk, even though
they can't walk up right because they don't have vertebrates and their spine it doesn't
allow them to bend over, and their legs and their feet and their knee
joints don't have joints to them, so they can't walk. But somehow they're
real. That's it. But it's a show. Like I said the last
time to your alliance, this is not a congressional hearing. This is a
show, a live show for our politics for this guy, this congressman,
to get at top of the mind of the people, for Himate to have
content because he was leaving from this congressional hearing for like two months of he's
getting content for his shows on social media for two or three months and will
be a lot of content for him that that is what it is. We
don't have to look further. And I'm not not a skeptic or the bunker
really, ah, I just have a critic thought. I think that we
need to doubt everything, but there are some things that that it's it's very
clear that there are fakes and we need to see it. I agree with
you absolutely on the fakes need to be caught out because they're polluting the community.
You know, they're calls in confusion, and that's ultimately what it is.
Calls in confusion, make the fake things real and the real things fake.
You know, that's the way that it works. But thanks so much
for coming on. We just really appreciate your time this evening. And I'll
bring you back on whenever they do the next congressional hearing, and we'll discuss
that one. The next Mexican Congressional hearing in November, you said November sixthif
seventh, seventh, November seventh, next Mexican Congressional hearing, and well we'll
chat about that one. Can you let people know where they can find you
online? Brother, you can find me here at Twitter or x. Like
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