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And I think this is a really important thing 18 00:01:34.680 --> 00:01:38.840 to go back and discuss because sometimes you can be wrong about things, but 19 00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:42.719 I don't think we were wrong about what we talked about last time. How's 20 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:46.280 it going, Louis good to see you, my friend. Hi? Everyone, 21 00:01:47.599 --> 00:01:49.200 good to see you too, right there, Yeah, it's good to 22 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:53.519 have you back on. And so I guess the good place to start with 23 00:01:53.560 --> 00:01:59.840 this is to give a good refresher on what kind of happened, because this 24 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:05.040 to just be like a little blimp on the radar of everything that's going on 25 00:02:05.120 --> 00:02:09.039 with UFOs and Extra Treasturial and definitely the news cycle. It seemed like it 26 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:12.960 was just a little period of time there where everyone got it up in an 27 00:02:13.039 --> 00:02:15.159 uproar and then they went on and moved on to the next thing, right, 28 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:21.319 So I think it's important to give a refresher for people that are listening 29 00:02:21.360 --> 00:02:24.039 that might not have heard about this or seen our last show together when we 30 00:02:24.080 --> 00:02:28.479 first talked about this, when they were first revealed by the Mexican government. 31 00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:32.520 So let's go back to the beginning. And get how this really started from 32 00:02:32.719 --> 00:02:43.599 your perspective. Use Okay, so here in Mexico we have our UPHA SuperStar's 33 00:02:43.840 --> 00:02:52.080 high mouse and he pushes all the way to our Mexican Congress to make a 34 00:02:53.919 --> 00:03:02.159 hearing if you want to collect hearing because they us no hearing was just like 35 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:13.080 like a symposium or organized by our congress. And he started this congress with 36 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:20.439 uh, real evidence. I can say, maybe not that real, but 37 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:31.879 maybe we can say serious persons talking about UPS because this committee of the Congress, 38 00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:39.400 it's talking about the importance of the awareness of the UP phenomenon and the 39 00:03:39.520 --> 00:03:46.759 security of the Mexican airspace. So really quick, do we know when this 40 00:03:46.080 --> 00:03:52.280 was planned? Was this planned for a long time the Mexican UFO congressional hearing 41 00:03:52.439 --> 00:03:53.960 or was this like a spare of the moment thing, because we didn't get 42 00:03:54.000 --> 00:03:59.879 any information about this in the United States until everyone started freaking out about the 43 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:06.240 fake parties that were revealed. It start with the with your first you for 44 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:11.400 hearing in the United States, with Dave and all that. Okay, yeah, 45 00:04:11.439 --> 00:04:17.240 well well that from the beginning, from the two intelligence Navy Navy intelligence 46 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:28.360 officers that were when when to the Congress from Ryan Graves and Captain Uh no, 47 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:32.319 no, no, the two Navy Navy officers former officers. No no, 48 00:04:32.319 --> 00:04:39.160 no, ex officers, real officers. I remember when when that would 49 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:42.800 have been with this other couple of years ago. No, no, was 50 00:04:44.199 --> 00:04:48.879 maybe one year ago. I wasn't aware of any other congressional hearing other than 51 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:57.959 the one that just recently happened with Dave Grush and Ryan Graves and Captain blinking 52 00:04:58.040 --> 00:05:02.639 on what his his name was Favor, Captain Fravor. Yeah, that's the 53 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:05.399 only one that I was aware of, but there might have been another one. 54 00:05:05.439 --> 00:05:10.480 I know Stephen Greer did has done several of them in the past, 55 00:05:10.519 --> 00:05:15.439 and he actually did one right before the one with Dave Gresh and Fravor and 56 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:18.720 Ryan Graves, like a week or two before that one was was the one 57 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:27.000 that settled down the the at the what you said, this uh this new 58 00:05:27.319 --> 00:05:33.360 office that is running the U a P. Topic. Yeah, yeah, 59 00:05:33.560 --> 00:05:39.759 when days when they set up Arrow, they have a hearing with these two, 60 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:46.600 with these two guys, they present the the mets, uh the pyramids 61 00:05:46.800 --> 00:05:51.920 of the Oh you're you're talking about the when they came out and said that 62 00:05:51.920 --> 00:05:56.600 the footage was real, that there were actual real UFOs. Okay, all 63 00:05:56.680 --> 00:06:00.000 right, gotcha continue. So it was set up from that point on rest 64 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:03.959 plant since then, Okay, yeah, yeah, mouth sign. I think 65 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:09.959 that that was a good idea that if if, if, if America, 66 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:13.879 the United States of America, it's doing it, maybe they can they can 67 00:06:13.920 --> 00:06:19.279 push and something can happen, and it happens. He finds a good a 68 00:06:19.360 --> 00:06:27.040 lie on on the Congress congressman, Ah, we can talk about it a 69 00:06:27.079 --> 00:06:33.920 little after letter to say about something about him. He's trying to run for 70 00:06:33.120 --> 00:06:39.839 a for a for a for a for a governor of one state here in 71 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:47.480 Mexico. But let's take it get back from our context. So he he 72 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:59.079 put together this thing of getting testimonies from from respectable from from real people. 73 00:06:59.720 --> 00:07:09.720 Getting here was Avilay people from Congress in Japan. What's a what's a real 74 00:07:10.040 --> 00:07:16.160 real thing? Nothing? Nothing was spectacular at that moment. So he think 75 00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:29.360 was interesting to make a surprise and throw two voices ofterrestrial beings. He said 76 00:07:29.360 --> 00:07:40.759 that was presented in the Congress, and all these media media phenomenon found UH 77 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:49.319 and it happened. A lot of memis, tons of of UH media outlets 78 00:07:49.759 --> 00:07:59.879 came with the story of Mexico presenting two exterrestrial beings on the Congress. So 79 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:07.240 here in Mexico gets backfire and a lot of support as normal for himing he 80 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:13.000 always have to have a lot of a lot of people that hate him, 81 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:18.680 a lot of him that loved him. So it became something on the community 82 00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:26.240 and the community here, but more like a joke on the community, on 83 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:33.000 the United States and in the world. So this was just to clarify. 84 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:41.480 This Mexican Congressional UFO hearing was basically an exhibition, right, it wasn't There 85 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:46.080 wasn't anybody under oath during this. It was a symbolic under oath. Correct, 86 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:54.639 Yeah, that the testimony of the presence didn't was wasn't solicited by the 87 00:08:54.679 --> 00:09:01.799 Congress. So if I didn't ask, your answer can be whatever you want, 88 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:13.879 so that they make a note and a symbolic oaths. Mhm. But 89 00:09:15.159 --> 00:09:24.759 here in Mexico, the the figure of of how do you say, peruisio 90 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:33.279 a false statement? Uh h? In a place like like the Congress, 91 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:39.519 in a situation like that, it doesn't exist. They're in the Congress, 92 00:09:39.600 --> 00:09:43.720 the testimony was asked by the Congress, and they were on the road in 93 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:50.080 behalf of the Congress here. No. Yeah, And you were talking earlier 94 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:56.279 about how things are really done in Mexico, how you can just be uh, 95 00:09:56.519 --> 00:10:01.200 just say whatever you want to say and then people kind of believe it. 96 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:03.440 Right. You can say that you're a part of the Navy, you 97 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:05.039 say that you're a part of the Air Force. You can say that you're 98 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:09.559 a UFO expert like him Masan is saying that he is, and then people 99 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:13.399 believe it, and then you are that. And that's kind of the same 100 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:16.480 way that it works in the United States in this field. Right, you 101 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:20.320 can be a UFO whistleblower, have absolutely no background. You can be an 102 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:26.120 insider. You can be a UFO insider and have no credentials to support you 103 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:30.399 being an insider. It's just a title as something that's given to you. 104 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:35.720 It's literally the only thing in this realm, the sphere that you don't have 105 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:39.200 to have anything backing up your title. You could just be whatever it is 106 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:45.840 that you want to be. It's really wild how ufology in the spiritual community 107 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:50.320 and the New Age community can just do that, you know, like it 108 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:54.320 would be like in any other profession. You can't just walk into a hospital 109 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:58.039 and say that you're a doctor, right, you have to have something backing 110 00:10:58.120 --> 00:11:01.240 up your title. But in this field, you don't have to have anything 111 00:11:01.240 --> 00:11:03.360 backing up your title. You can be whatever you want to be. You 112 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:09.159 could be a whistle blower in the United States for UFOs and uifology if you 113 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:15.240 wanted to, or you can have a background in other things and say you 114 00:11:15.320 --> 00:11:22.200 are specialists in in UFOs. So you are a journalist, but you have 115 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:28.799 three years of journalism, but now you are a UFO expert. So here's 116 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:35.919 something that that happens in this community and and some communities that they think that 117 00:11:35.159 --> 00:11:43.559 it's like a natural thing that you you are. You're an expert of UFOs. 118 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:50.720 So you don't have nothing to prove because obviously all this conspiracy, it's 119 00:11:50.799 --> 00:11:56.840 tracking you to make you look like stupid or you you didn't go to school 120 00:11:56.039 --> 00:12:01.840 or university, so that that's the problem. So you are you don't need 121 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:07.360 to have background. Yeah, it's unbelievable. So let's fast forward here a 122 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:13.039 little bit since our last discussion. What has happened since they wrote out these 123 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:18.240 uh fake extradustrial bodies? Have they done studies on them since the last time 124 00:12:18.360 --> 00:12:22.879 we discussed, Have there been scientists that's examined them. Have there been further 125 00:12:24.159 --> 00:12:31.360 DNA tests done on these bodies? So the thing didn't get well for for 126 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:37.639 I may here in Mexico with the with the scientific community have a lot of 127 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:50.000 backfire on social media. So he think was a good idea to make the 128 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:54.879 body, or at least one body analyze it in the presence of a notary 129 00:12:56.720 --> 00:13:03.720 so he can say that the analysis was really done to the body. So 130 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:13.960 the people here and maybe in other parts of the world watching it with very 131 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:22.960 little preparation education, think that the notary make it real. The notary just 132 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:26.879 give testimony and say they do what they do. There's nothing to do with 133 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:37.879 scientific on a notary. So he took the bodies to on disclosure location because 134 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:45.080 he didn't want to to say where was the the analysis and put in a 135 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:50.320 show, a live show for this analysis. He took the members of her 136 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:58.639 crew they produce it. He took one of the of the doctors that was 137 00:13:58.679 --> 00:14:05.879 presented on on the Congress, doctor Salse that he says, well, just 138 00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:11.679 he works in the Navy here in Mexico. But the Navy then endorse him 139 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:20.320 about these beings of these bodies, So like we say, to work for 140 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:24.000 someone, but there's nothing to do with what you do on your spare time. 141 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:35.519 No H. So they get the bodies analyzed and invite two m D 142 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:43.480 two doctors, one radiologist and one orthopedic, and they run the series of 143 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:50.879 analysis. They do AU tomography, they do X ray. So I think 144 00:14:52.559 --> 00:15:00.279 they didn't do the right questions because it was ruled by by Hymen's true. 145 00:15:01.480 --> 00:15:09.440 They tried to to make attendance to what they are saying that it's true and 146 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:15.600 trying to do it very very carefully. Because these guys, these two doctors 147 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:20.559 wasn't paid They say, I want to go and see what's happened and give 148 00:15:20.600 --> 00:15:28.799 my opinion. But since they weren't paid off by him Mason, then Amerson 149 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:31.159 is not going to let them do that, or they're not going to ask 150 00:15:31.240 --> 00:15:35.440 the right questions, or the evidence is going to be inconclusive. Right now, 151 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:39.960 what did they find and what did they say about the X rays? 152 00:15:41.039 --> 00:15:48.519 Of Okay, the information and the conclusion they they have was that some parts 153 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:58.200 of the body look coherent. They have joints, they have the right structors. 154 00:16:00.279 --> 00:16:07.960 Uh, don't look like something put together in some parts, but also 155 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:15.720 some parts. They think that they need more study like the eggs. They 156 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:23.440 say, maybe we need some ultrasound to to to see what it's inside and 157 00:16:23.480 --> 00:16:33.279 what is it. We need to make more studies about the part of the 158 00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:40.720 body that is the peltries. They found that there is no joints through the 159 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:45.759 We can say this is extratro rascial, so we we can compare it with 160 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:51.399 with the human body. They say, the Fermour didn't have the joint that 161 00:16:51.679 --> 00:16:57.639 it's needed to fit in the pelvis. Two can move the legs and rotated 162 00:16:57.799 --> 00:17:06.359 and walk. Very very very interesting because doctors doctor Selza that was there on 163 00:17:06.440 --> 00:17:11.559 the hearing on the Congressional healing say that these guys were fast and now super 164 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:18.160 fast because they have a three three dactyl feed and hands that they make it 165 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:25.839 like a guitardo like a wolverin. Well, they found out that it's not 166 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:30.279 possible. He's trying to say that this thing walks on all fours yeah, 167 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:36.960 yeah, And and they found that the structures on the hands and on the 168 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:42.119 on the feet don't look like there was a lot of mobility on it. 169 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:52.039 Uh. They don't have two bones on the forearm, so they can rotate 170 00:17:52.480 --> 00:18:00.319 the foreum. Some some finding some very weird findings that doctors are saying. 171 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:10.480 The person from himosance team try to make it the story straight, saying that 172 00:18:10.680 --> 00:18:17.680 these were this was cutissial means maybe they have different structures. Maybe they don't 173 00:18:17.680 --> 00:18:25.240 have knees because there is no knee on the Fame or and the TV. 174 00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:30.039 So they say, no, no, no, no, maybe this is 175 00:18:30.079 --> 00:18:33.640 this is different structures and anohingy and I and I and I think, so 176 00:18:33.920 --> 00:18:40.680 why you get a specialists, human specialist to get something that isn't human? 177 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:45.880 So there's no sense. Yeah you when I say this is different, so 178 00:18:47.400 --> 00:18:52.319 nothing you can find here, it's it's applicable. Sounds like there's going to 179 00:18:52.359 --> 00:18:57.039 be an excuse for everything on Heimimassan's part. Right if they come back and 180 00:18:57.079 --> 00:19:00.480 they say, oh, well, there's no way that this think walk around. 181 00:19:00.480 --> 00:19:03.119 The vertebrates in his back doesn't allow it to move and bend over and 182 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:06.160 pick things up, and then he'll be like, oh, well I walked 183 00:19:06.200 --> 00:19:08.720 on all fours or oh I didn't even need it. Because it's an extraterrestrial 184 00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:12.160 being, it's gonna be yeah, yeah, exactly, it flies, it's 185 00:19:12.160 --> 00:19:15.880 a dragon, it turns moreson turns into a dragon. You don't. You 186 00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:26.680 don't know, so I I really don't don't believe this is story. But 187 00:19:26.440 --> 00:19:33.680 if if I see real evidence, I can doubt. But more and more 188 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:41.599 the story comes, it's it's even easier for me to say this is this 189 00:19:41.640 --> 00:19:45.359 is a fake, this is a joke, this is cam It's it's very 190 00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:52.519 clear. Now, did these scientists find any metal in the body of these 191 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:59.759 supposed extraterrestrial mummies, because I'm pretty certain that the Peruvian mummies, and we 192 00:19:59.839 --> 00:20:03.920 talk talked about us before the show started, the proven Peruvian mummies had like 193 00:20:03.559 --> 00:20:08.119 a metal plate inside of its skeleton in the chest, and I think some 194 00:20:08.279 --> 00:20:14.400 sort of metal plate in the neck, and some metal plates around the hands 195 00:20:14.519 --> 00:20:22.680 of them. This new X ray show any metal parts because according to what 196 00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:29.039 I know, they had to create some sort of joints, and sometimes when 197 00:20:29.039 --> 00:20:32.000 they created the joints, they would have to put some sort of metal in 198 00:20:32.039 --> 00:20:37.079 there to create the joints of these beings. Were there any metal found? 199 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:42.079 There was no metal on the joints. There was a plate of metal on 200 00:20:42.160 --> 00:20:49.200 the chest of the bean. But especially say that this this plate can hold 201 00:20:49.359 --> 00:20:56.680 the whole structure of the of the body. But as as we talked earlier, 202 00:20:57.279 --> 00:21:06.079 h these kind of analysis really can determine if this is made of or 203 00:21:06.160 --> 00:21:11.880 not. And in the beginning of the of the show especially say it we 204 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:18.119 can we can say that it's made of or not. We we just say 205 00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:22.720 that that there are bones, and yes, there are bones. There's nothing 206 00:21:22.759 --> 00:21:30.519 else with these analysis, with this equipment that we can say. So they 207 00:21:30.559 --> 00:21:37.039 didn't make a comment about animal bones or that did they date the bones at 208 00:21:37.079 --> 00:21:44.039 all? Do they do any now says they tried to not go there, 209 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:49.799 that the presenter tried to not go there. But in some point one of 210 00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:57.000 the specialties say, uh, this kind of look like like like like boy, 211 00:21:57.240 --> 00:22:03.000 like a child bone. So fast the presenters say, oh, you 212 00:22:03.000 --> 00:22:10.279 are saying that this is child bones and they especially saying no, for me, 213 00:22:10.440 --> 00:22:14.839 don't look like But they didn't say no, this is not animal bones. 214 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:21.480 They said its bones. And the other finding that it's it's relevant. 215 00:22:21.799 --> 00:22:27.519 They found that the density of the bones, it's not regular. One bone 216 00:22:27.599 --> 00:22:33.559 have one density and the other bone have a density a different density that is 217 00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:42.319 for them was weird, which really just solidifies the idea that it's been mutilated 218 00:22:42.319 --> 00:22:49.240 and mutilated carcass. It's been taken from animal bones from inche improving mummies. 219 00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:53.319 I mean, I'm pretty sure that the Previan government is has nothing to do 220 00:22:53.400 --> 00:23:00.279 with Haimi Massan because they know that he uh he faked news with more bones 221 00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:07.039 and dead ancient Peruvian carcasses. Yeah, correct your knowledge. In fact, 222 00:23:07.039 --> 00:23:11.480 we we are. We were talking about it last time. There was a 223 00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:22.000 a sue, a lawsuit on on the bodies from the from the Cultural Department 224 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:27.160 of the Peruvian government. Yeah, and the result of the lawsuit was these 225 00:23:29.240 --> 00:23:38.279 bodies wasn't ancestral or archeological things. So you can do whatever what you want. 226 00:23:40.319 --> 00:23:45.599 These are dolls. This are fakes. So you can transport it, 227 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:51.279 you can travel it, you can sell it. There's no no, there's 228 00:23:51.359 --> 00:23:56.319 nothing to do with the with the government of Peru. So now the government 229 00:23:56.440 --> 00:24:03.759 is is very up it because they are faking things on behalf of Peru, 230 00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:11.039 and Peruit is trying to get out of this backfire of things that they they 231 00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:17.640 are stupid and they didn't investigate these things and something like that. In fact, 232 00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:26.000 yesterday yeah, I said, I think Sunday Peruban government make an statement 233 00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:37.079 about two more bodies that were sended from Peru to Mexico, and they founded 234 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:47.160 a DHL installation and they ride the installation and took the boys. Were these 235 00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:53.799 supposed to be supposed extraterrestrial bodies or were they just entering proving skeleton looks very 236 00:24:53.799 --> 00:25:02.599 similar to these extraterrestrial beings. I may I took the took the the history 237 00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:11.920 and say that that this was made of from one guy he knows, but 238 00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:19.319 he thinks that they are real, but he can trust but we will see 239 00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:25.359 what's happened. Ye, yeah, I think they were. They were send 240 00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:32.920 it to himI and get caught, and he had to say, I'll see 241 00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:37.480 I know these and and and but this is a difference, and I don't 242 00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:47.599 know. He's trying to go away. What's the chances of fraudster and scammer 243 00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:56.000 concocting these supposed extraterrestrial bodies making them out of animal bones? Inch Improuvian skeletons 244 00:25:56.200 --> 00:26:00.079 were dug up, putting them all together, some of them, creating the 245 00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:04.680 joints, taking the fingers off, creating new joints, putting metal plates inside 246 00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:10.359 of them, and then taking them back to a burial site and planting them 247 00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:15.960 and then having some researchers to come about and just discover them so that the 248 00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:18.839 researchers or these people didn't know that they were fake, and then they present 249 00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:23.039 them as real. Do you think that the scam and the grift goes that 250 00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:30.480 deep to where they would knowingly put together one of these beans and then go 251 00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:33.839 drop it back off at a burial site or a gravesite, or put it 252 00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:40.079 inside of a cave like these supposed Heimi Massan extraterrestrials were found supposedly in a 253 00:26:40.279 --> 00:26:42.680 cave in Peru. Do you think that they would go that far to do 254 00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:48.000 that. We can go deep on that road if you want just a little. 255 00:26:48.680 --> 00:27:00.759 So here in Latin America we have a lot of archaeological sites. Years 256 00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:07.160 after years of tourism, of first first World tourism, have come here to 257 00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:15.680 see our archaeological sites. It's a very common practice all over Latin America that 258 00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:25.160 people from the years of the archaeological site made of things, made of archeological 259 00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:30.559 things to sell to the tourists. I can tell you, oh that this 260 00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:37.720 is a piece a replica of of statue. But if you want the real 261 00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:41.440 deal, I can find it. I have a friend that can find you 262 00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:45.920 the real the real status. So you say, yes, it's okay. 263 00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:53.519 So I selled you one the real thing that isn't real, and it's very 264 00:27:53.519 --> 00:28:00.359 profitable because I can, I can put the number I want. This is 265 00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:08.240 a real archeological, imagine Peruvian Aztec thing, and you will and you will 266 00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:15.559 bide it because I am a local. And you say, oh, yeah, 267 00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:18.440 I can. I got one piece, a real piece of that. 268 00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:25.519 So I scam you. So this is this is a very common thing upon 269 00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:34.359 Latin American cultures. So this thing that goes away and too far is one 270 00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:41.559 of the things. This guy, the guy that founded the tomb braider do 271 00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:52.160 that for living. Yea, he made up things for living. So he 272 00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:59.759 made it and and and take it to this guy I was I was told 273 00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:07.880 you know that this guy Chieri, I mean a very poemic French guy that 274 00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:18.519 is sitting there in cost Coperu in Nikai think in Peru and making their own 275 00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:26.359 research about the city of Eldorado and things like that. Yes, and you 276 00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:30.079 just uncovered. You just said something very important right there that I hope people 277 00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:34.319 were really paying attention to. Because I've seen these things before. I've seen 278 00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:41.000 these ancient relics that are supposedly have been dug up in the desert of Peru 279 00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:45.559 or in Mexico and all these places. I actually had someone on my show 280 00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:51.160 that presented them, and I was I held them in my hands and I 281 00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:52.759 didn't want to tell them at the time. I was like, bro, 282 00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:56.079 like, these aren't real. You paid like two thousand dollars for these. 283 00:29:56.240 --> 00:30:04.920 Uh these this fake extraterrestrial mask and this fake supposed extraterrestrial skull, you know, 284 00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:10.559 but they look real. They feel very real, you know. But 285 00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:14.440 my whole skepticism of it was, well, if this person is just and 286 00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:17.759 it's exactly like what you said is from a friend from a friend that lives 287 00:30:17.799 --> 00:30:21.799 in Peru that they do the exchange with and you pay your friend, and 288 00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:23.319 then that friend pays the other friend and then he sends it to you and 289 00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:26.839 the mail. You know, But they look really real. They look like 290 00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:30.720 that they were just dug up out of the ground. They got old mud 291 00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:33.440 and old dirt and stuff on them. And I was like, well, 292 00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:38.839 if this gentleman can just go out into the desert and just dig this stuff 293 00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:45.279 up randomly and find this stuff, why hasn't this area been escavated. Why 294 00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:52.359 hasn't archaeological archaeological people came in and escavated all of these areas where you just 295 00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:56.799 every time you go to this site you're finding ancient alien artifacts of ancient skulls 296 00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:02.880 and ancient alien mask and crystal and all that. In the case of this, 297 00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:06.759 of these mummies, of these alleged mummies, is because the place is 298 00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:11.240 secret and this is and this is one part of the things that you say, 299 00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:15.559 well, this is this is a red flag. Why does this have 300 00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:22.680 to be secret? There is no archeologist finding these things. This waketo this 301 00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:27.960 tone writer find it and take it with him to they I mean to in 302 00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:34.319 carry institute. That is the problem, that's the main problem. Why not 303 00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:41.759 open it to to all the archeologic community that I think and I know because 304 00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:49.559 that archeology archeology community here in Latin America it's huge. It's the biggest community 305 00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:55.000 of all the world. We have a lot of things to research, a 306 00:31:55.000 --> 00:32:00.519 lot of people every year become archaeologist. It's it's come on, think here. 307 00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:07.440 And I'm not saying that everything you can find and in a calculator side 308 00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:10.559 it's fake. Huh. There are people that'll find that that it really can 309 00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:15.839 give you real things. But not every time they go to the deserts. 310 00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:21.240 Come on, there ain't no way that you can make a replica of something, 311 00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:23.000 sell them the replica of that, and then say that you can get 312 00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:25.680 the real thing, and then all of a sudden just magically go out into 313 00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:29.680 the desert and start digging and then find that exact same thing that you made 314 00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:36.240 a replica of. No possible way ever exactly. But that's a really important 315 00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:38.200 thing to bring up, and I'm really glad that you brought that up because 316 00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:44.759 people I see them all over Instagram, these ancient alien artifacts or whatever the 317 00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:49.039 glow have you seen those? They put them out under a black light and 318 00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:52.799 they glow like a weird greenish bluish collar and they're like I have seen one 319 00:32:53.559 --> 00:33:06.880 a lot of like u FO discs full of ja wars uh birds and Ali 320 00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:17.880 heads and looked and really looked like I imagine archeology but fake. It's unbelievable. 321 00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:22.200 And that's like an industry, and I've known people that spend thousands of 322 00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:27.720 dollars on this stuff. Dude, it's unbelievable, Like holy cramp, Like 323 00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:31.559 you're you're just throwing away your money for a bunch of fake products. That 324 00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:37.359 are provably false and provably fake. But the thing about it is that these 325 00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:42.400 people hype it up so good. Like the people that sold sold them and 326 00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:45.519 stuff. They're like, oh, yes, this is this was carbon dated 327 00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:50.319 to two thousand years ago. There was a science scientist that there was a 328 00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:53.440 DNA analysis that was done, a carbon dating that was done that dates it 329 00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:58.119 back to three thousand years ago. You know, like it gets people all 330 00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:00.279 hooked in and then they then they believe it and they think that they have 331 00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:06.079 something real that the scam and the grift is really good on that, And 332 00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:08.559 I'm glad we just talked about it because that's something very important. And I 333 00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:14.039 literally see it all the time. I see it on Instagram all the time, 334 00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:20.719 people having these uh these artifacts supposed ancient alien artifacts that put it under 335 00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:24.119 a black light and it has a weird greenish shoe or a blue issue that 336 00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:29.079 they're saying that the frequencies from the aliens are coming off of that the ancient 337 00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:34.599 aliens had touched them and that's why they're growing glowing this weird green hue. 338 00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:39.639 It's wild, dude. Yeah, yeah, But but I think and we 339 00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:45.880 can we can move to the to the next thing. That happens here in 340 00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:52.400 Mexico, and I can I can make my point on why the the scientific 341 00:34:52.400 --> 00:35:00.119 community sometimes I have a lot of ego and don't get down to these kind 342 00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:07.119 of things. And it's very easy for them to to this credit and to 343 00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:12.599 get down to the level of hyme and wrap pripp him off. But they 344 00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:15.920 don't have the They have a lot of ego and they don't want to do 345 00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:22.360 that and spare time on that. But here in Mexico, after two weeks 346 00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:29.320 off of the analysis and the presented the presenting of the bodies, a group 347 00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:37.800 of scientifics on on the University of Mexico on them UH made a congress about 348 00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:46.000 UH racial life and why a recial life, the search of recal life is 349 00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:54.519 important, whether the the the research, the state of the art about recial 350 00:35:54.599 --> 00:36:01.679 life. And they just rip off him. They just punch him one another, 351 00:36:02.239 --> 00:36:07.519 keep it punching it until he died. They say this is fake. 352 00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:14.400 They I think, I think, I really think they do the right thing, 353 00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:22.920 but maybe they can do better. Really, I'm a chemical engineering and 354 00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:29.639 I really I think that I came I became part of the of the scientific 355 00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:35.760 community here in Mexico. So I think they need to to make a better 356 00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:40.280 effort. They need to to investigate a little bit more, because if you 357 00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:47.440 can defeat it these kinds of things in the in in her own field, 358 00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:54.320 we can do it better here with with with science, I think we can 359 00:36:54.440 --> 00:37:00.679 make a TikTok, a real TikTok from a real science t saying why this 360 00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:08.519 isn't real with with evidence. But really they they maybe they just tire of 361 00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:15.480 himz histories, but they just say this isn't real. This they took the 362 00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:25.559 analysis that these Peruvian archeologists did to uh smaller bodies, the one that you 363 00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:34.199 find on internet that says that there is a lama head, turn it around, 364 00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:43.159 ripped off some parts the bones and pulled together. They took that thing 365 00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:49.440 and presented like these the these bodies are the same bodies. And I think 366 00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:55.800 that that was lame. They they will they can do better. But the 367 00:37:55.519 --> 00:38:01.800 the damage to the to the ego of him was done, really done. 368 00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:08.400 He really he get upset. Yes, I've heard that he is very upset 369 00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:14.960 online and being kind of disgruntled with people. No bull truth. Thanks so 370 00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:17.079 much for the five dollars, super chap and says love you guys. Keep 371 00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:21.679 up the Truth and we will do. Thanks so much, No bull Truth. 372 00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:24.480 Appreciate your kindness and support of the show. My friend. This really 373 00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:29.679 see people are acting like this is the first time anything like this has ever 374 00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:35.280 happened. Do you remember Stephen Greer bringing out that tiny alien that he claimed 375 00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:42.760 was an extraterrestrial I don't remember the still green the thing, but I may 376 00:38:42.840 --> 00:38:47.800 have a lot of little excesa beans. Okay, so this was the one 377 00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:57.920 that Stephen Greer presented as the tiny mummy extraterrestrial back I don't know, several 378 00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:07.519 years ago, the stupid freaking ads but and that turned out to be a 379 00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:15.320 tiny, mutilated, a bortal, aborted human fetus. Okay, that's what 380 00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:19.119 that turned out to be. And he hyped it up as a as an 381 00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:24.239 extraterrestrial body as well. So this isn't the first time with Heini Massan and 382 00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:30.559 people faking extraterrestrial alien bodies. Stephen Greer did it before. So there you 383 00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:36.000 go for people thinking that this is the first time that it's ever been done. 384 00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:45.159 Stephen Greer was the first to do it. So yeah, that's Coolee 385 00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:50.119 says, I feel the plaster aliens are an insult to my intelligence. Yeah, 386 00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:54.599 they look like they were baked in a microwave for too long or put 387 00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:59.639 in the oven for too long. But the plaster was there to cover up 388 00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:05.800 the alterations to the body, right, Yeah, But the x ray analysis, 389 00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:13.639 the tomography didn't didn't see or didn't analyze the skin. Why they don't 390 00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:23.920 do h skin analysis at the uh chemical analysis to the to the skin took 391 00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:30.960 a part of the skin and take it to a laboratory to see under microscope 392 00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:39.000 to make a chemical real chemical tests. They don't do that. They know 393 00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:44.360 what they know what they are doing, so they don't do the things that 394 00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:54.199 are gonna go against the narrative. Yeah, that's really interesting in the plasters 395 00:40:54.280 --> 00:41:00.800 covering up the ability to be able to test the skin of the of the 396 00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:05.760 beans too. Do you have any idea what that has the plaster been tested? 397 00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:10.559 Do we know that if the plaster is real plaster or like what that 398 00:41:10.679 --> 00:41:17.280 has been made out of that dust? Uh that is on on them. 399 00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:25.679 It's uh dietomea. I don't know how to say it in English. M 400 00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:44.079 hmm, I say, I don't say I like that. Scottie Boy says 401 00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:50.280 it was a space plaster. That's right, it's from the extraterrestrial galactic ships 402 00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:54.440 that to preserve the bodies of the extraterrestrials on Earth, just like the ancient 403 00:41:54.440 --> 00:42:00.719 Egyptians would do back in the day, wrapping them up all in uh dietto 404 00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:08.639 man seaweed seaweed. Yeah, back in back in thousand years, thousands of 405 00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:17.199 years, that part of Peru was sea, was the sea. So the 406 00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:22.480 dust that in that part, it's a seaweed, a fossilated fossilicit seaweed. 407 00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:30.239 But that doesn't mean anything that That's that's why I always say to my friends 408 00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:36.760 and to all the people that I know that that the presence of these dust 409 00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:45.119 doesn't mean that the thing was buried under the surface of this dust. You 410 00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:51.440 can put the dust and take it, sprinkle it on like some salt exackly, 411 00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:55.400 that's right, Throw a little papp around there to spice him up a 412 00:42:55.440 --> 00:43:02.400 little bit. Uh So, how many people, in your estimate, Louis 413 00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:13.320 and people in Mexico actually believed that these were real extraterrestrial bodies, And how 414 00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:17.519 many of them do you think still believe that these were real extraterrestrial bodies? 415 00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:29.079 He may has kind of in a live show, have around three thousand viewers. 416 00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:34.159 Wow, you many, Holy crow. So so I think so. 417 00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:43.920 I think maybe ten thousand people think about it. We are one one hundred 418 00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:47.719 and eighty meetings. How many how many people would you guess to me? 419 00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:54.000 Though I know that this is just ambiguous and uh theoretical, how many people 420 00:43:54.280 --> 00:44:00.159 in Mexico do you think are actually interested in this time? Is there a 421 00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:05.840 lot of people in Mexico that are interested in you have ology and extradrustrials and 422 00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:10.440 aliens like like I say, and I want to apologize to everyone. I 423 00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:14.880 don't know. This is not personal. I'm not trying to make fun of 424 00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:25.639 anything for anyone. We are underdeveloped country. We have a lot of things 425 00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:32.760 to do with our education. We are formal education. We have a lot 426 00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:42.119 of problems of the guys getting get enough of the school and in very early 427 00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:46.880 ages because the lack of opportunities, the lack of jobs, of well paid 428 00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:54.199 jobs. It's it's it's difficult, and for me it's at but it's it's 429 00:44:54.360 --> 00:45:02.039 very easy here in Mexico, uh to to to see people coming up with 430 00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:08.159 with with very fantastic stories, with products, with miracle products, and I 431 00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:16.719 will well received here. But just because of that, we are very underdeveloped 432 00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:23.360 society. Still we are trying, really we are trying to to change that. 433 00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:30.559 And that is why the spaces like these and spaces that are opening on 434 00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:40.199 YouTube for for scientific for scientific purposes, to bring the scientific knowledge back from 435 00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:45.559 for for for all the people's for all the people that that have a YouTube 436 00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:50.960 account and something like that. But but it's had. But it's true. 437 00:45:52.039 --> 00:46:00.920 Kime has thirty plus years of career and and he I think ninety percent of 438 00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:07.760 the time have has has a TV show, so he have he have a 439 00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:19.920 public so he it's a sellable product, so Himimazon's TV shows basically like Engine 440 00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:28.599 Aliens in the United States from Mexico, So can were here or don't don't 441 00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:37.559 don't don't have don't have that knowledge of the ancient Aliens type of things. 442 00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:43.159 But you know what I mean though, like the stories within the Engine Aliens 443 00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:50.480 and the embellishment and that thing of stories will be even boring. He likes 444 00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:58.119 to put the things that are flashy and and very strocopics, like videos of 445 00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:05.760 UFOs and uh and news about it that they found a which they found the 446 00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:13.519 dwarf things like that. Mm hmmm. It's more like like ancient aliens, 447 00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:17.840 but with lesso steroids. I don't know how you can get lots of hysterics 448 00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:24.960 and each and aliens each aliens. It's pretty pretty entertaining, really, Yeah, 449 00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:30.639 yeah, I would say that it was entertaining. So he's basically just 450 00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:39.599 preying upon low intellect people, is kind of what you're saying, correct. 451 00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:46.840 I think, not not low intellect, but low formation, low low school 452 00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:54.880 formation, low formal education. Because that with with I think with high school 453 00:47:55.440 --> 00:48:01.840 or or I know, I don't say college, but with high school education 454 00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:08.760 here in Mexico, you can spot really easy that Imad's lying on some things 455 00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:15.000 and and presenting things that that we don't know if I are real or not, 456 00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:19.320 because, like like I tell you the last time, he presents things 457 00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:25.280 that that recycles from from up community in the United States. Mm hmm. 458 00:48:28.119 --> 00:48:30.599 So he's not only talking about stories made up, fake stories, but he's 459 00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:40.239 also ripping people off by regurgitating and recycling their information exactly. Hmm. Sounds 460 00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:46.440 like a cult. Sounds like a UFO colt him Mimison's running down there. 461 00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:54.679 Yeah, so I can I can give your audience the last news about this 462 00:48:55.519 --> 00:49:02.159 and what's going to happen next. Yeah, there will be a second hearing, 463 00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:12.039 the second one. Yeah, put that in your calendar November seventh this 464 00:49:12.199 --> 00:49:17.840 year, November November seven. Oh yeap, what are they? What do 465 00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:21.360 what do we know about it? What are they gonna be talking about? 466 00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:27.679 What are they gonna present? Uh, They're gonna present the amendment to our 467 00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:35.440 aerospecial law here in Mexico. That is like the main events. Both High 468 00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:42.079 messay is that he will present and I will get to that later. A 469 00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:51.079 new scientists scientists that are gonna say that the mom is a real ah, 470 00:49:51.719 --> 00:50:00.519 very well known uh plastic surgeon in Peru. They they they call it the 471 00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:08.320 surgeon of the stars. So so you can you can imagine this guy. 472 00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:15.880 They they they say, they say that I hear that they are trying to 473 00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:22.559 to present some someone from NASA. I don't know. I don't know what 474 00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:28.760 what's gonna be. Who's gonna be a former NASA what or I don't know. 475 00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:35.840 I don't know. After a grush getting back from getting here, someone 476 00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:43.320 someone serious gonna end up messing with with Kimi. But yeah, we we 477 00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:47.719 were gonna have a second hearing on the Congress. Uh, as I say, 478 00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:53.000 as I say, uh, the the congressman that is pushing this forward. 479 00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:59.760 It's trying to run for the governor of one state here in Mexico. 480 00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:04.559 So there's no thing. There's no such thing as a bad publicity. Know. 481 00:51:04.719 --> 00:51:08.519 They say, I can't believe they're going to do another one. When 482 00:51:08.639 --> 00:51:15.960 the US Congressional hearing, the congressmen and women from that hearing said that they'll 483 00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:21.039 never do another one, and they've grushed in present any fake alien bodies. 484 00:51:21.079 --> 00:51:27.159 So it's interesting that you just had a bunch of stories. It has no 485 00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:32.639 evidence and no you know proof for that you heard from other people talking about. 486 00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:38.840 But it's interesting that the Mexican government would do another one with himI Massan, 487 00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:43.880 and you're seeing that they're going to bring out some scientists and some experts 488 00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:50.559 to confirm that the bodies were real. Yeah. I uh. Sunday, 489 00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:57.559 I was watching the show of the Mossan show because I always keep an eye 490 00:51:57.639 --> 00:52:04.719 on that. I really don't like that Masan getting getting with with her own 491 00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:12.320 story. And I try everything I can to push for the foots backwards from 492 00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:16.239 from the their stories and the narrative on on my Twitter, and I try 493 00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:21.280 what I what I can, so I have to keep an eye on what 494 00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:28.920 he's saying. So he presents this Perubian journalist that was on the on the 495 00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:37.280 congressional hearing, Joyce Mantilla. He's like the the counterpart there in Peru and 496 00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:45.199 inside of Mausan, and he presents, did this guy I have her name 497 00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:52.719 here? Let me check it out very quickly. I don't see how they're 498 00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:57.079 going to get anybody that has any kind of credibility to go to this new 499 00:52:57.239 --> 00:53:02.679 UFO Mexican here. I mean, Ryan Graves already backpeddled on the whole thing 500 00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:07.840 and made like a huge apology tweet that he was even involved in it. 501 00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:14.079 So I don't know how they're gonna get anybody from the United States or anybody 502 00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:19.400 even from around the world that is somewhat credible to go to another one of 503 00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:25.440 these events that. Let me let me read you the resume of this guy. 504 00:53:27.679 --> 00:53:34.400 He's a member of the New York Academy of Science. So I made 505 00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:38.320 my research for you to be For me to be a member of the New 506 00:53:38.400 --> 00:53:44.000 York Scientific Academy of Science, we need to pay one hundred and thirty bucks 507 00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:50.079 a year and we can get members of the of the New York Academy of 508 00:53:50.079 --> 00:53:59.400 science. Pay the play baby, that's how it works. He had thirty 509 00:53:59.480 --> 00:54:05.360 five years of experience in medicine, was past president of the Peruvian Society of 510 00:54:05.400 --> 00:54:15.559 Forensic Medicine, doctor David ruz Vela. So I searched it, so he 511 00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:24.800 is, I don't know how to put it, like, uh, there 512 00:54:24.880 --> 00:54:35.960 there is a show here well, a discovery of two plastic chairans the Beverly 513 00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:42.599 Hills. They do a show. They go and people go and they make 514 00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:45.519 the plastic cher jury. It's a show. It's like just like that. 515 00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:57.760 A guy like that, So he joins Mantia the journalist present a little extract 516 00:54:58.239 --> 00:55:05.119 of of a pralistic note. Mh. And this guy was making the research. 517 00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:12.760 He have a laptop, he have a white clothes so he can interpretate 518 00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:21.519 the role of the specialist. And he say again that and have a scan 519 00:55:21.840 --> 00:55:27.039 on the on the computer and and the top part and the and the worte 520 00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:30.280 part of the computer. Says that he have to pay for the listens because 521 00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:37.280 it was a free software. Okay, I think that he is a specialist 522 00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:42.679 and maybe he can pay for the software. But nerman, Uh, he 523 00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:46.840 have a scan, a treaty scan, very different to what we saw on 524 00:55:46.880 --> 00:55:59.000 the tomography he have a scan with with tissue and bins and and and things 525 00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:06.159 like that, it really looks incredibly real. What's three D. And he 526 00:56:06.239 --> 00:56:15.360 was saying that there there was some spots where the fluid the blood was running 527 00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:21.960 and was very you can see it very clear. And and so then he 528 00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:28.400 was moving to another part of this thing and he was with I think three 529 00:56:28.519 --> 00:56:35.280 or four medals on the chest, very weird, and Joyce saying that the 530 00:56:35.800 --> 00:56:40.480 generally say, oh, these medals are for the community, for the forensic 531 00:56:40.519 --> 00:56:46.840 community. They are the specialists in the emerging point. The forensic community see 532 00:56:46.880 --> 00:56:52.719 the medals and know what they are. And they didn't say what didn't say 533 00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:58.360 to us what they are. But a really bizarre show. And I found 534 00:56:58.360 --> 00:57:07.440 that this doctor have a a very polemic background. He believes on the cure 535 00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:15.039 of homosexuality. Very weird. So this is one of the guys that's going 536 00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:22.000 to come here in Mexico for the congressional hearing. Wow, sounds like a 537 00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:30.920 bunch of frauds and scammers for the new UFO Congressional Mexican Hearing. Holy crap, 538 00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:35.920 dude. But you know how you were talking about how they take advantage 539 00:57:36.079 --> 00:57:45.440 of the let's say uneducated in Mexico. It's the exact same thing here within 540 00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:51.639 the community. It's people getting taken advantage of that are mentally unwell, mentally 541 00:57:51.719 --> 00:57:57.880 unstable, the uneducated people. That's how they get wrapped up into this this 542 00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:01.559 community as well. So it's really no different here in that regard, in 543 00:58:02.159 --> 00:58:07.559 that aspect of what you're talking about. You know, everyone's you know, 544 00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:15.960 all in line for the fantastical stories you know of thirty three galactic Federation lightships 545 00:58:15.960 --> 00:58:19.280 are going to land next week or next month or next year or whenever, 546 00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:22.960 and then it never happens, and it's never true. We're alien abductions or 547 00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:27.440 alien implants. It's the same thing that's being regurgitated over and over again for 548 00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:30.320 a new audience of people to come and listen to you and to believe in. 549 00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:34.880 You know, it's the exact same thing here, and I suppose the 550 00:58:35.000 --> 00:58:42.360 exact same thing everywhere where vulnerable people are taking advantage of, where uneducated people 551 00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:49.400 are taking advantage of, where mentally unwell or mentally unstable people are also taking 552 00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:55.559 advantage of. So truly no different. But when so that's all that we're 553 00:58:55.599 --> 00:59:01.440 looking for for this this next congressional here have they They've booked all the people 554 00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:06.000 that are going to come and testify, and we're thinking that they're going to 555 00:59:06.039 --> 00:59:09.199 come out and say that these bodies are real. These scientists are going to 556 00:59:09.239 --> 00:59:12.559 come out and say, oh, yeah, we did the analysis, we 557 00:59:12.599 --> 00:59:16.360 did the schematics, we did the X rays on these beans, and it 558 00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:20.639 turns out that they're real, even though that they can't walk, even though 559 00:59:20.639 --> 00:59:25.119 they can't walk up right because they don't have vertebrates and their spine it doesn't 560 00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:29.480 allow them to bend over, and their legs and their feet and their knee 561 00:59:29.519 --> 00:59:31.960 joints don't have joints to them, so they can't walk. But somehow they're 562 00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:38.639 real. That's it. But it's a show. Like I said the last 563 00:59:38.639 --> 00:59:44.199 time to your alliance, this is not a congressional hearing. This is a 564 00:59:44.239 --> 00:59:52.559 show, a live show for our politics for this guy, this congressman, 565 00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:59.159 to get at top of the mind of the people, for Himate to have 566 00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:07.000 content because he was leaving from this congressional hearing for like two months of he's 567 01:00:07.239 --> 01:00:15.480 getting content for his shows on social media for two or three months and will 568 01:00:15.559 --> 01:00:22.599 be a lot of content for him that that is what it is. We 569 01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:30.800 don't have to look further. And I'm not not a skeptic or the bunker 570 01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:37.760 really, ah, I just have a critic thought. I think that we 571 01:00:38.119 --> 01:00:45.840 need to doubt everything, but there are some things that that it's it's very 572 01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:52.679 clear that there are fakes and we need to see it. I agree with 573 01:00:52.719 --> 01:00:59.280 you absolutely on the fakes need to be caught out because they're polluting the community. 574 01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:04.840 You know, they're calls in confusion, and that's ultimately what it is. 575 01:01:05.320 --> 01:01:07.480 Calls in confusion, make the fake things real and the real things fake. 576 01:01:08.719 --> 01:01:12.679 You know, that's the way that it works. But thanks so much 577 01:01:12.760 --> 01:01:15.400 for coming on. We just really appreciate your time this evening. And I'll 578 01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:20.239 bring you back on whenever they do the next congressional hearing, and we'll discuss 579 01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:25.599 that one. The next Mexican Congressional hearing in November, you said November sixthif 580 01:01:25.960 --> 01:01:31.960 seventh, seventh, November seventh, next Mexican Congressional hearing, and well we'll 581 01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:36.599 chat about that one. Can you let people know where they can find you 582 01:01:36.639 --> 01:01:42.280 online? Brother, you can find me here at Twitter or x. Like 583 01:01:42.440 --> 01:01:51.679 now we have to say next like at Kicking twenty sixty three, and have 584 01:01:51.760 --> 01:01:57.000 a podcast. I have a podcast in Spanish. We can find it on 585 01:01:57.079 --> 01:02:01.840 Spotify. If you have any friend that speaks Spanish US expense you can find 586 01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:12.519 it on on Spotify is experient kis. We talk about UFO cases in a 587 01:02:13.639 --> 01:02:20.920 critic way, with a lot of research and a lot of critic talkt So 588 01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:27.800 if you want to come over and hear something about it, awesome, Thanks 589 01:02:27.800 --> 01:02:30.480 so much, brother. That's what we need is more critical thought and more 590 01:02:30.519 --> 01:02:32.880 common sense. Please be sure to hit the thumbs up on health the channel 591 01:02:34.039 --> 01:02:37.920 and algorithm share subscribe, hit the ballicicon as well for notifications. I will 592 01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:44.880 be back on Thursday with Jerry Murzinsky. We're going to be talking about his 593 01:02:45.199 --> 01:02:49.719 book, An Amazing Journey into the Psychotic Mind, Breaking The Spell of the 594 01:02:49.760 --> 01:02:52.920 Ivory Tower. Do not miss that when That will be at six pm EST 595 01:02:53.599 --> 01:02:58.039 on Thursday. Thanks. Thank you guys so much, appreciate each and every 596 01:02:58.039 --> 01:03:07.599 one of you, and we'll see you guys Thursday. Bye bye m HM.