WEBVTT 1 00:00:26.839 --> 00:00:30.199 Hello, and welcome to the show. I'm Martin Willshure host. So my 2 00:00:30.280 --> 00:00:35.280 guest this evening is Paul stone Hill. He's gonna be talking about his book 3 00:00:35.799 --> 00:00:43.000 which is called Russia's UFO Secret, Sorry you s O secrets, Unidentified submersible 4 00:00:43.479 --> 00:00:50.159 objects in Russian and international waters. This is a topic that has fascinated me 5 00:00:50.280 --> 00:00:54.039 right from the beginning. So I'm really excited to have him on and I'm 6 00:00:54.039 --> 00:00:56.679 going to bring him in. All right, now, welcome to the show, 7 00:00:56.759 --> 00:01:02.399 Paul, Thank you appreciate it. Yes, Paul, you were on, 8 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:06.920 I think back in twenty sixteen something like that, long time ago, 9 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:11.840 and I'd like for you if you would introduce yourself, tell people your background. 10 00:01:11.879 --> 00:01:15.920 I know you're on ancient aliens quite often, but I want to know 11 00:01:18.079 --> 00:01:23.359 what got you interested in the topic and basically your overall background. I was 12 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:30.120 a typical Soviet teenager, but what was a typical I was interested in ancient 13 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:34.560 alien theories. Let's say we call it palio conduct in Russian and I was 14 00:01:34.920 --> 00:01:41.959 looking for ways to get into it. And I spoke to somebody who actually 15 00:01:41.959 --> 00:01:46.000 observed the uf OH back in nineteen thirty six when he was a pilot in 16 00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:51.280 the Arctic are Force of the Soviet Union, and I found ways to get 17 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:56.680 information. And we had a very great magazine called Technicamala Josi in the Soviet 18 00:01:56.799 --> 00:02:01.000 Union. It still exists, and it broke the ice in many ways. 19 00:02:01.120 --> 00:02:06.480 And it wasn't it was daring magazine. You could reach stuff in it, 20 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:13.520 cosmonauts who reported strange things, or naval officers, and one thing led to 21 00:02:13.560 --> 00:02:16.080 another. I spoke to people. Even after I got out from the Soviet 22 00:02:16.199 --> 00:02:22.240 Union. I was able to get in touch with naval personnel, those who 23 00:02:22.360 --> 00:02:25.680 escaped to the west, or who were here on a brief visit and one 24 00:02:27.240 --> 00:02:34.599 and I kept collecting information. It's a fascinating subject because they Soviet military observers 25 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:39.960 had observed very interesting things down in the oceans or in the sky, but 26 00:02:40.039 --> 00:02:47.719 they couldn't talk about it openly in the Soviet Union except for the provided channels. 27 00:02:47.719 --> 00:02:54.120 Such channels included a top secret UFO slash USO research program called Sietka, 28 00:02:54.319 --> 00:02:59.800 which involved the whole of the Soviet armed forces, and they had to report 29 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:07.400 on strange aerial phenomena that they observed. Nobody thought said uf ohs. It 30 00:03:07.479 --> 00:03:14.479 was not a term that was liked by the government to be used and that's 31 00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:17.759 how I started. Wow. Interesting and you say, you know, there's 32 00:03:17.800 --> 00:03:23.120 a lot going on, and um, that's what I've you know, I've 33 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:28.159 I've been to Russia five times now and and I've I've tried to talk to 34 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:32.159 people there. I've had some you know, conversations, but not into such 35 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:39.120 great length with anyone. But but there are there are many cases that are 36 00:03:39.159 --> 00:03:44.400 really well known. One of them is really strange. Before we get into 37 00:03:44.439 --> 00:03:47.719 the topic of what you did you know for your book, Um, I 38 00:03:47.759 --> 00:03:52.199 don't know how to pronounce it. It's something like the verone huh or something 39 00:03:52.240 --> 00:03:58.400 like that. Nineteen Yeah, I can't tell. I'd love to hear that 40 00:03:58.479 --> 00:04:02.080 story. So interesting. I'll be brief. What happened is that a number 41 00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:05.680 of kids were in a park, Central Park and all of a sudden, 42 00:04:05.719 --> 00:04:10.919 a uf FO appeared out of nowhere, and there was a robot with a 43 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:15.160 weapon, and then it disappeared and reappeared again. It was very interesting story. 44 00:04:15.199 --> 00:04:20.560 It had been investigated and the local upologies have been in touch with them. 45 00:04:21.480 --> 00:04:27.160 They reported under you know, on the case, and since it was 46 00:04:27.240 --> 00:04:32.040 during garbageof times, the news broke out and there was international interest, great 47 00:04:32.079 --> 00:04:38.240 case. What I always tell people that don't know is but it's a glipsk 48 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:41.839 is not far away from there, and this is one of the most secretive 49 00:04:42.120 --> 00:04:48.000 Russian military facilities for aircraft training and testing and top guns. And for years 50 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:55.480 they had experienced loss of aircraft because of uf ows and other objects in the 51 00:04:55.519 --> 00:05:01.519 sky, such as in an immobile black cloud that Soviet jets were getting into. 52 00:05:01.639 --> 00:05:06.480 But they had a very difficult time being inside that cloud and they lost 53 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:13.279 all kinds of machine equipment and aircraft lost. It came to the point that 54 00:05:13.519 --> 00:05:18.399 a local commander appealed to the Sietka research program I just mentioned, begging them 55 00:05:18.439 --> 00:05:24.600 to send experts to find out what's going on. Why are we losing aircraft? 56 00:05:24.920 --> 00:05:30.319 Everybody knew this was no Americans or anybody else. So Varonis is not 57 00:05:30.439 --> 00:05:34.399 far away, and there is also Nova Varnish which had an which has an 58 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:41.560 nuclear power station, and there were some interesting things happening all around. I 59 00:05:41.639 --> 00:05:46.399 remember late Vadim Chernabrov, who was one of the top Russian upologists. He 60 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:51.040 mentioned stories this was going I think about two thousand, where there was a 61 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:56.560 strange crash in the area and the military is sealed off all the area. 62 00:05:56.680 --> 00:05:59.839 This is a new Russia, this was not a Soviet Union, so they 63 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:04.639 recovered something, but who knows what it was. Yeah, the times that 64 00:06:04.680 --> 00:06:10.040 I've spent in Russia, I've been on the Black Sea in the city of 65 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:14.199 novor Sisk and I'm probably saying that wrong, but you know it. Yeah, 66 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:17.079 have you ever heard of any any type of UFL sightings in that area? 67 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:21.959 Oh? Listen, Black Sea is the tremendous history in the book I 68 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:26.360 have. You know, we have a whole chapter with Philip Mantel. We 69 00:06:26.439 --> 00:06:30.439 put together. We got as much information as possible. Yeah, in that 70 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:34.800 in the whole of Black Sea, there were cases of objects going in and 71 00:06:34.879 --> 00:06:41.800 out. And one of the cases I always bring up is by late Kusovkin. 72 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:46.600 Kuzovkin, who was very interesting Russian U four researcher. He had friends 73 00:06:46.839 --> 00:06:53.759 who were scientists, marine scientists. They went down below and they observed a 74 00:06:53.920 --> 00:07:00.360 gigantic wheel like object like a tense story building facing them. You know, 75 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:06.079 they were like in a battistcap and it was a USO and then it changed 76 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:14.199 its place and it was vertical, and then it became horizontal and it basically 77 00:07:14.240 --> 00:07:18.199 moved away at incredible speed. There's been more, even not far from Balaklava, 78 00:07:18.279 --> 00:07:24.560 which was one of the most secretive naval somewhere in Basis during the Soviet 79 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:29.120 times, built in the granite rock. They had you of all cases all 80 00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:34.800 around. And you know, I I bring up information from scientists, from 81 00:07:34.839 --> 00:07:42.040 meteorologists, and military personnel because they're most more likely to be believed than somebody 82 00:07:42.079 --> 00:07:46.800 who is not who is just a plain civilian. Sure sure, Now, 83 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:50.920 I saw you mentioned in your book about and I've heard it many times that 84 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:56.319 we know more about what's on the Moon than we do in the depths of 85 00:07:56.360 --> 00:08:01.759 our oceans. You know, they're just we have so much unexplored territory. 86 00:08:01.600 --> 00:08:07.920 Um. And I've heard other people say that if if we are being visited, 87 00:08:07.920 --> 00:08:11.920 if that's what these things are, what a great place to hide is 88 00:08:11.079 --> 00:08:16.680 in in the ocean. The thing um that I do want to discuss at 89 00:08:16.680 --> 00:08:22.360 some point today is what I've heard of. Uh. I think Lou Alexando 90 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:26.519 says, um, between mediums, you know, they can travel between mediums 91 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:30.959 between you know, the air, and then right into the water just like 92 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:35.639 it's you know, like it's not even there, which is really really another 93 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:39.480 thing that's really strange high speeds and things like that. Yeah. Yes, 94 00:08:41.720 --> 00:08:46.200 so let's let's talk what what made you decide to do your book is just 95 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:50.600 one one like me? It's very interesting, is that just one of the 96 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:56.559 things that fascinated you about Russian maybe is some you know, I've my family 97 00:08:56.639 --> 00:09:01.240 husband involved. You know, we had people who within the Russian Navy and 98 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:05.879 in the Soviet Navy, and then all this well, I collected all the 99 00:09:05.000 --> 00:09:11.879 information, and most of it came like in late nineteen eighties when the Soviet 100 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:20.679 Union was disintegrating and garbage of policies came forth. I remember I saw this 101 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:26.000 magazine, for example, it was called Ayah and Anamalea Linia Anamalis Phenomena. 102 00:09:26.039 --> 00:09:30.159 It was published I think somewhere in the Baltics in nineteen eighty nine, nineteen 103 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:35.200 ninety. And here I see statement by former still a captain of the Soviet 104 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:41.879 navy, Doomin, and he had a diagram and he presented information about objects 105 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:46.799 going in and out of the sea and what the military observed and how they 106 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:50.759 wanted to bring forth this information. And one thing let to another. I've 107 00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:56.840 got other information, other documents. I've been working with the Soviet uful groups 108 00:09:56.879 --> 00:10:00.840 at the time. Many people are have passed away now and the groups do 109 00:10:00.919 --> 00:10:03.919 not exist, but they did at that time, and information came out and 110 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:07.279 they sent it to me in the United States, and we called each other 111 00:10:07.639 --> 00:10:16.279 and we helped Doctor Hines, I remember, was with the Soviet American Federation 112 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:20.120 for you of full research, and I helped him anyway possible, and it 113 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:24.519 was. It was a great time. I remember getting information about Phoebus incident 114 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:31.399 and others. But I specifically was interested in the US research simply because I 115 00:10:31.919 --> 00:10:35.960 in my youth I traveled to different parts of the Soviet Union. My father 116 00:10:35.080 --> 00:10:39.080 served in Siberia and the Far East, and he told me stories too. 117 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:45.120 Wow, Oh he did, your father did? He told me stories about 118 00:10:45.159 --> 00:10:50.080 the Taiga and the concentration camps and a few others. He wasn't into my 119 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:56.679 research, but because of him, I loved it territory and I you know, 120 00:10:56.759 --> 00:10:58.279 I still do, and I want to explore more if I still have 121 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:03.480 time or abilities. Like the Ural Mountains, the Urals have an incredible u 122 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:11.200 for paranormal phenomena, or the far East of Russia, especially the Corel Islands, 123 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:16.960 and the territory, even even not far away from the so called Dragon 124 00:11:16.039 --> 00:11:22.039 Triangle or Devil's Triangle. Things are happening there. It's in my book too. 125 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:26.919 But outside of the things keep getting and I think the Chinese know that 126 00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:30.919 too, and I'm very much interested in that territory as well. And the 127 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:35.120 Coil Islets. Martin. I brought up a case not long ago. It's 128 00:11:35.159 --> 00:11:37.519 my YouTube channel. This is what was one of the first cases that I 129 00:11:37.600 --> 00:11:41.120 brought up, and it's going on, but nobody talks about it. Here 130 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:48.240 the island of Matua, one of the Couril Islands. The Soviet rusty Russian 131 00:11:48.000 --> 00:11:56.080 army is now in full control of the island, meaning there is no access 132 00:11:56.159 --> 00:12:01.000 for those who have no business to be there, only government, scientists and 133 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:07.080 the army. There's something strange is going under and the Japanese they didn't want, 134 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:09.159 of course, to give up this island, but they had to. 135 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:13.399 However, they had a chance to hide a few things there. This was 136 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:18.159 one of the places where Nazi submarines kept coming after Nazi Germany was crushed. 137 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:24.399 Very interesting now in the new research that the Russians are doing, they also 138 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:28.440 discovered a few of the American submarines that went down that nobody knew about. 139 00:12:30.399 --> 00:12:33.320 Stalin I know that Stalin of course, was very much interested in it, 140 00:12:33.399 --> 00:12:37.480 as were the Americans who wanted to get the islands, and Stalin said, 141 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:41.919 no, you give me ali Utan Islands. I'll give you this maybe. 142 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:46.960 But the point is that there is something that of more paranormal aspect that's going 143 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:54.039 on and that island and we have we heard stories about about structures that go 144 00:12:54.240 --> 00:13:03.919 down fifty floors or so down below and very unusual findings. Now, I 145 00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:07.120 also do as much research as I can of the area, and there is 146 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:15.679 an island not far away from their indecural Racha and Um. I have recollections 147 00:13:15.759 --> 00:13:24.240 of a former Soviet officer who observed they observed strange structures down below, very 148 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:30.879 clear, like an ancient city, and they came back sometime later and he 149 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:37.879 wasn't there anymore. Ah, that's the are Yeah, Yeah, that sounds 150 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:41.679 really fascinating. Now you talked about the ural mountains and the makes me think 151 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:48.279 of the dat Love Pass incident, which was which was another really strange thing 152 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:52.200 that is still un answered to this day. A lot of people have an 153 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:56.360 interests in that one. Yeah. If if people are interested, I want 154 00:13:56.360 --> 00:14:01.519 to underline that I do once at least once every few months, I bring 155 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:07.480 up more information because what happened is the Russian police, let's say, or 156 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:13.639 more investigative finist an investigative agency. They have a new one opened up this 157 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:20.240 case, and they came with the same conclusions it was due to natural causes. 158 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:24.120 But but it's not so we know that. And I keep bringing up 159 00:14:24.159 --> 00:14:30.000 more information, including photographs that mostly mostly nobody in the West has seen, 160 00:14:30.200 --> 00:14:35.720 because there is a source in Russia who provides such information and through open sources, 161 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:41.039 and I want people to know that, yes, the investigation can come 162 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:43.919 up with any conclusions, but there are others in Russia who are trying to 163 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:48.679 find more. It's a very complicated case. Even those who perished have a 164 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:54.360 very interesting background, and we're just finding out that one, two and two 165 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:58.519 do not add up to four in this case. Yeah, you know, 166 00:14:58.519 --> 00:15:01.440 I'm ordering since they were of course my fault for bringing that up. But 167 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:07.360 I'm wondered if we could just give an overview of the Left Pass incident, 168 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:11.360 just from as I mentioned early on, I have a lot of new listeners. 169 00:15:11.399 --> 00:15:15.639 I wondered if you wouldn't mind just kind of giving a nutshell of the 170 00:15:15.679 --> 00:15:22.840 story. Nineteen fifty nine a group of young mountain explorers or skiers tourists. 171 00:15:22.840 --> 00:15:28.519 Like we say in Russia, we go to a very secluded mountain where the 172 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:33.200 local people live munci, people who don't want others to come because they have 173 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:41.840 sacred areas there, and the young people stay denied uh in the they stay 174 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:46.120 inside inside the tent, and then something scares them to the point that they're 175 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:52.799 naked or semi naked and run out from from this tent, disperse in the 176 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:58.120 area and then slowly perished one by one, and finally some of the last 177 00:15:58.159 --> 00:16:03.759 ones to be alive they crawl back to the tent and they die. Some 178 00:16:03.879 --> 00:16:11.200 of them were killed by because we found radiation by something like I directed ray 179 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:17.120 of energy. After a while, when their bodies were discovered, they were 180 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:23.240 missing body parts. And what's interesting that they investigated. The investigation was complicated 181 00:16:23.279 --> 00:16:27.000 from the very beginning. Local Communist party officials did not want things to come 182 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:32.840 out. There were USO sighted in the area. Some people mentioned something like 183 00:16:33.000 --> 00:16:37.039 yi or snow abominable snowmans in the area. Now there are rumors that the 184 00:16:37.159 --> 00:16:45.679 KGB was involved and maybe intercepting an American spy expedition. There is so much 185 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:53.559 complication about including possible not very likable but like but possible missile tests that shouldn't 186 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:59.840 be. It's a secluded cold area, very cold. You can die for 187 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:07.200 from exposure in the polar Euroarctic. But you gotta take the whole euro Mountains 188 00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:12.759 as it is. There's so many paranormal phenomena and so much of the ecology 189 00:17:12.880 --> 00:17:19.160 has been wasted during the Soviet times but by unnecessary experiments, and there were 190 00:17:19.440 --> 00:17:26.680 cases of nuclear accidents and bucteriological weapons. So one thing leads to another and 191 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:32.599 we still don't know what happened. Wow. Yeah, And just also some 192 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:37.079 of the details on that is they they cut instead of going out through their 193 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:42.279 tent, they cut through it, and they left without shoes on. I 194 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:45.559 don't think any of them had their shoes on or boots on. And they 195 00:17:45.640 --> 00:17:49.000 ran and they were you know, they weren't wearing their coats or anything. 196 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:52.279 I mean, they got out of there fast. Whatever it was, they 197 00:17:52.319 --> 00:17:56.480 got out of there fast. And they found the tent months later under the 198 00:17:56.519 --> 00:18:00.680 snow. And that's and they found the bodies, one by a tree. 199 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:04.759 Obviously he tried to climb a tree. One of them did, right well, 200 00:18:04.759 --> 00:18:11.000 he tried to and clothe and anti trees itself. They found a residue 201 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:15.200 of of something like lasers would be uh directed or you know, we're shooting 202 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:18.160 at that tree. This is what they found. There's more, I mean, 203 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:22.319 there's so much more. They also before that they visited areas they should 204 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:27.720 not do, like sacred monsey of you know, local people, um sites 205 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:30.720 and and you know, some people say, well they were murdered by by 206 00:18:30.839 --> 00:18:37.319 months because of that, that's the months people are are peaceful. And no, 207 00:18:37.319 --> 00:18:40.359 no, no, I don't want But there is much more, I 208 00:18:40.440 --> 00:18:44.680 mean, including the footprints even that they were discovered. Some say, well 209 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:48.000 there were some people who actually were not um you know, without shoes, 210 00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:52.039 And there is more and some of the objects, like I said, there 211 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:56.640 were a few days ago, a few days before that they observed view of 212 00:18:56.680 --> 00:19:00.160 foes and also on the day of their death. So it's a complicated case. 213 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:06.880 And but somebody in Russia doesn't want continuation of investigation. Wow. Wow, 214 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:11.680 let's see. There's there's a lot of questions pop in and occasionally I 215 00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:14.960 think I should put one up, and I apologize if I don't get to 216 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:21.400 your questions today. But this one here, your book. Russia's your USO 217 00:19:21.519 --> 00:19:26.960 secrets. Can you elaborate on documents on Russia's subs in the battle with aliens? 218 00:19:27.319 --> 00:19:30.720 Is that are you familiar with Russia? Okay? What? First of 219 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:38.119 all, Soviet submarines had encountered unusual objects down below. There had been they 220 00:19:38.200 --> 00:19:47.000 were chased by very gigantic objects. Sometimes usually they could just observe what was 221 00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:52.200 going on. There wasn't battle with you for aliens. There were skirmishes throughout 222 00:19:52.279 --> 00:19:57.599 the history of Soviet You of full research, and I mentioned it throughout and 223 00:19:59.480 --> 00:20:07.559 aliens as not. We can say advanced extraterrestrial intelligence, civilization, or something 224 00:20:07.640 --> 00:20:12.440 else that lives down below. We will discuss it. But Soviet submarines would 225 00:20:12.440 --> 00:20:19.079 be annihilated, yes, by an unknown force, and sometimes we have records 226 00:20:19.079 --> 00:20:23.920 of such cases. But as you can imagine, there is only so much 227 00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:33.000 we can do. So what you had is US terrestrial people observing unusual gigantic 228 00:20:33.240 --> 00:20:40.440 beings or objects moving through the water, you know, shooting through the eyes 229 00:20:40.680 --> 00:20:48.359 coming back into the water, or observing gigantic motherships which would separate into smaller 230 00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:52.680 pieces. And there are cases that definitely I want to bring up in nineteen 231 00:20:52.759 --> 00:21:00.960 fifty three case over Siberia when Stalin died and the uf was hovering over a 232 00:21:02.400 --> 00:21:08.279 very let's say classified area of the Taiga because they had special institutions doing their 233 00:21:08.319 --> 00:21:12.599 own military research. Well, that object, gigantic object was in the area, 234 00:21:12.680 --> 00:21:18.519 separating into smaller objects. And why I bring it up because in the 235 00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:23.039 nineteen seventy nine in the book we have statement of Damoslovski who was with the 236 00:21:23.079 --> 00:21:30.759 counterintelligence naval counterintelligence of the Pacific Fleet, and they mentioned in the area of 237 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:37.880 secluded area of the Pacific Ocean exactly the same uf O eight to nine hundred 238 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:44.079 meet meters in size, splitting into the smaller objects which were going down, 239 00:21:44.440 --> 00:21:49.839 descending into the water and later coming up. And they observed it very interesting 240 00:21:49.920 --> 00:21:56.480 stuff. So I hope I answered your question. If you're looking for something 241 00:21:56.519 --> 00:22:00.359 that we you know, we had had to to hand fight with aliens, 242 00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:04.640 No, that did not happen. Our torpedoes would not be able to even 243 00:22:04.680 --> 00:22:10.599 to to to gain on them. Yeah. Before we move on, and 244 00:22:10.920 --> 00:22:14.359 this this is all fascinating to me, but I wanted to ask you what 245 00:22:14.519 --> 00:22:18.839 is the attitude of or what was it of the Soviet Union and now the 246 00:22:19.160 --> 00:22:23.880 Federation. What is our attitude towards UFOs. I know George Nap went over 247 00:22:23.960 --> 00:22:29.240 and was able to get some documents, but what is their attitude as far 248 00:22:29.279 --> 00:22:34.799 as it being a French topic or do they take it serious? And is 249 00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:40.599 there access to two documents? Well, it was a complicated Under the Soviet 250 00:22:40.680 --> 00:22:44.200 Union, you had ideology which we don't have today. Russia is a different 251 00:22:44.200 --> 00:22:47.559 country. I know, it's not being brought up on our newspapers. It's 252 00:22:47.559 --> 00:22:52.119 a different country. Soviet Union was our ideological enemy, so to say, 253 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:56.680 and the United States was perceived by enemy. But this was basic primitive propaganda. 254 00:22:56.039 --> 00:23:00.440 Now the Soviet Union, they were it was a complicated attitude by the 255 00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:06.279 government to UFOs. They did not they called them a bourgeois inventions or or 256 00:23:06.400 --> 00:23:12.039 you know, fakes enemy uh, you know, like enemy creations to to 257 00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:17.279 full Soviet people. But it wasn't like that. They were confused and they 258 00:23:17.319 --> 00:23:21.799 wanted to find out the answers. That's why they created this special program Sieka 259 00:23:21.880 --> 00:23:26.000 and other ones that existed. Of course, in my personal opinion, based 260 00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:30.799 on my information, I have no doubts that the United States and Russia worked 261 00:23:30.839 --> 00:23:37.200 hand in hand and the most interesting cases which we don't even maybe know about 262 00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:44.720 but the Soviet Union wanted to find out and at the end think because of 263 00:23:44.759 --> 00:23:48.400 Corbacho and everything was changing. They've changed their attitude too, and in nineteen 264 00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:55.759 ninety one they released file of documents from the KGB to Soviet UOFO researchers with 265 00:23:55.839 --> 00:24:00.799 the help of Pabo Papovitch, Ukrainian Soviet cousman, at which we will talk 266 00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:04.440 about because he knew a few things about what's going on down below. We 267 00:24:04.519 --> 00:24:08.480 need to talk about it later. Anyway, documents were released, but of 268 00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:12.400 course not all the documents. We still don't know where the SETCA documents most 269 00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:18.359 of them are. This was Soviet attitude. It continued about nineteen ninety four. 270 00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:22.319 Yeah, you could get very interesting documents. That's why George Knapp could 271 00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:27.240 come to Russia, get part of the SETCA documents and leave without being arrested. 272 00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:33.559 This cannot happen anymore. It's a different reality. And in today's Russia 273 00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:41.839 they continue research. It's much more complicated, less information comes out. But 274 00:24:41.960 --> 00:24:45.519 I have an idea who is doing it, where the bright young people come 275 00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:51.640 from, who do the government research. And it's very much connected to the 276 00:24:51.720 --> 00:24:59.000 Russia's space forces, which have existed since nineteen seventies. Wow, Now, 277 00:24:59.079 --> 00:25:03.559 when you're doing your research, how available is information for you? Do you 278 00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:08.079 just have connections that you can speak, speak to and get somewhere. First 279 00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:11.240 of all, I want to tell you that there's this book that we're talking 280 00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:15.359 about today, of Russia's US Secrets. It was published in Russian and they 281 00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:22.079 I got so much, you know, people told people try to reach out 282 00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:23.720 and thanked me. And I'm proud of it too. I want them to 283 00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:29.359 know history of their navy and what happened, and they made videos about it. 284 00:25:29.480 --> 00:25:32.359 So to many of them it was a surprise. And I find it 285 00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:37.200 interesting because I am a researcher. I know how to get information out. 286 00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:41.440 There are very cool still Russian researchers left in the field. Mihael Gerstein is 287 00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:47.960 the first one still active, still trying to get stuff out. And recently 288 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:52.880 we got more information about Yakutia, for example, a book who We're looking 289 00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:56.759 For by a local person who is really into this stuff, and you know, 290 00:25:56.880 --> 00:26:04.000 helps other ways. Newspapers in Russia today it's all different, but there 291 00:26:04.119 --> 00:26:08.279 was a period where you they were publishing interesting stories back in nineteen nineties. 292 00:26:08.839 --> 00:26:14.720 Today I would say they we publish all the information. There is not much 293 00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:18.759 coming out from Russia today, but because we live in the age of the 294 00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:25.640 internet, there are interesting videos that are being filled in Russia. And of 295 00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:29.079 course it's it's seventy five percent or more, it's military tests, but not 296 00:26:29.240 --> 00:26:34.319 all people are less afraid. I needed some illustration for my book and then 297 00:26:34.440 --> 00:26:41.599 videos for example areas now you know in the north, not very open areas 298 00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:45.839 around no realisk and others, and the guy told me, yeah, please 299 00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:51.599 use my Here, here's the UFO I've filmed in twenty fifteen. Incredible stuff. 300 00:26:51.640 --> 00:26:55.640 You can use my photograph and it's good. I'm glad Russians are more 301 00:26:55.799 --> 00:27:00.839 open, less afraid, and want to know more about their country. Yeah, 302 00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:04.960 yeah, that's excellent. Here's a question that Jeff has. There's a 303 00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:12.759 lot of anecdotal talk about Russian slash Soviet fate crashes and Russian plants and Russian 304 00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:19.880 plants. Is there any credible sources for that, well, we crashes. 305 00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:26.079 The most interesting one that I bring up is the nineteen seventy eight shoot down 306 00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:32.119 over a few of fall by a very interesting person who actually created the missiles 307 00:27:32.119 --> 00:27:37.920 that brought down Francis Powers. American spy plane. Anyway, in nineteen seventy 308 00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:41.920 eight in Central Asia, they did manage to shoot down a U OF Oh 309 00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:45.680 I don't know what U of fall where it came from, and they did 310 00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:52.839 obtain enough information to do to improve their missiles. How true it is. 311 00:27:52.920 --> 00:28:00.599 I bring up cases and names and involved now Soviet nuclear power plants that's in 312 00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:06.160 Russian. That's a very interesting case, and I made a few videos about 313 00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:11.279 it so people can see and checkout. So of course in the books Philip 314 00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:17.400 Mental and I put together, we have information about visits of uf os to 315 00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:22.160 Soviet nuclear plants and inability of people down below to do anything about it, 316 00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:30.319 just like when they visited Dubna that's a secret facility for nuclear research in nineteen 317 00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:36.319 seventies, and the scientists so this gigantic object over them and they were calling 318 00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:41.079 Moscow and Moscow criminals. Well, don't worry, we're in control. Moscow 319 00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:45.880 wasn't in control. Nobody was in control. And they keep coming to the 320 00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:49.960 air like the other parts of Russia, and very interesting. I bring up 321 00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:57.359 information of Ginnagi Bilimov, who is one of the most interesting Soviet and now 322 00:28:57.440 --> 00:29:03.400 Russian U four researchers who aptually published a textbook on your falls for college many 323 00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:07.599 years ago after the end of the Soviet Union. Well, anyway, he 324 00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:14.720 brings up information about U falls over Russian nuclear power plants and how they were 325 00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:22.880 getting soil collected and brought up to the Ship's very interesting stuff. So, 326 00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:26.680 yes, it does happen. But I want you to be careful when it 327 00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:30.960 comes to crashes. I know there are fakes. I don't know if intentional 328 00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:36.559 or not that keep bringing up information. Oh, yes, the Soviets recovered. 329 00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:41.000 Be very careful that the film you're talking about, it looked like it 330 00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:45.960 was taking place in the forties and the nineteen forties that crash. Yeah, 331 00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:48.759 that's a fake film. Right, there's a lot of fakes. It's like 332 00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:55.759 KGB chasing mummies or racist. We've got to be careful, yeah, right 333 00:29:55.880 --> 00:30:02.519 right, Someone Stephen wants to know about the divers head encountered, encountered what 334 00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:07.400 they encountered in nineteen eighty two and Lake Packai. However, you said you 335 00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:11.200 listen, Martin, if you ever go to Russia, try to visit this 336 00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:15.319 lake because I hope it's it's still preserved. It's one of the treasures of 337 00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:19.480 our planet. Very unusual lake because we don't know exactly what's going on at 338 00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:25.799 the bottom even today, and of what tunnels are connected to it. Anyway, 339 00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:29.880 nineteen eighty two, it's there's a whole chapter in the book about the 340 00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:33.839 so called swimmers, but I'll tell you basic stuff. Through the years, 341 00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:37.079 I was able to confirm the veracity of this story through my own research. 342 00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:41.119 But in nineteen eighty two, a group of Soviet frogmen was sent to catch 343 00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:48.599 gigantic about nine feet tall humanoid beings operating at the lake at the bottom of 344 00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:55.079 the Lake of Baikau. A number of Soviet frogmen perished as the result of 345 00:30:55.119 --> 00:31:00.640 this unfortunate expedition, and then the order came down through this Soviet forces armed 346 00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:11.160 forces do not interfere if you see such creatures beings down below in the lake 347 00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:15.440 or by color is cool in Central Asia, a hotspot for uf fos, 348 00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:21.839 for example, do not bother them. And then I did as much researcher 349 00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:26.279 as I could about similar cases. It about the same timeline in the Soviet 350 00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:30.759 Union, and you know, like we say, wo on, behold, 351 00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:40.240 we found a case from the Sietka files when UFA was crashed and there was 352 00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:44.519 a military crash of the military I'm sorry, a military plane and there was 353 00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:49.240 an explosion and a uf all lefty area. Well before that, the servicemen, 354 00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:56.279 Soviet servicemen observed exactly the same creature nine feet tall, same looking, 355 00:31:56.359 --> 00:32:02.640 the same same features and also addressed the same silvery like suit or what you 356 00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:08.240 call it, whatever you want. And then we bring information about Russian counterintelligence 357 00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:13.720 in the Far East that's next to China. They're a worried and about the 358 00:32:13.880 --> 00:32:17.000 same creature observed in the area. And then how they studied footprints or there 359 00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:22.599 is more. There is more because we bring information from ancient India and the 360 00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:28.680 so called races who lived down below, and we work with an Indian scientist 361 00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:34.920 on this because there is a definite connection going back to the ancient times and 362 00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:40.319 Lake Baikal outside of that had so many cases going back to the nineteenth century 363 00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:45.839 and of course before of strange U of force observed over it. And please 364 00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:52.799 remember President Vladimir Putin went down to the bottom of Lake Baikal in a special 365 00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:57.359 apparatus in two thousand and nine. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, 366 00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:04.079 And he doesn't do anything without the reason. Didn't they when he was there? 367 00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:07.599 Didn't he find some early vessel, you know, like some pottery or 368 00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:13.039 something. That's what I remember seeing when I watched him in that submarine. 369 00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:15.119 I think they found something. Yeah, I was staged. They put it 370 00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:21.039 for him to find it, of course, But but he knows that. 371 00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:24.839 You know, if I get stuff with my you know, any effort I 372 00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:29.400 can, and I'm a good researcher, I know that. But I also 373 00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:32.920 know my limitations. But if I get this, of course they know what's 374 00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:37.799 going on. I did. Did they have a wonderful you know, I 375 00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:42.640 mean in the efforts that they do. They they have a navy that is 376 00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:46.599 being built and is going to be one of the powerful navies in the world. 377 00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:51.039 They put a lot of money into it. And look they're building up 378 00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:57.200 the Arctic areas now and of course the Far East and NASA Russian Navy is 379 00:33:57.240 --> 00:34:00.559 going to be present more and more in the Atlantic. And it brings you 380 00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:06.200 back to the days of nineteen seventies or nineteen sixties, when exactly the time 381 00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:13.519 when the Soviets started encountering strange objects during their expeditions to the Native waters and 382 00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:16.480 the shores of the United States, and they were going crazy. It's all 383 00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:22.400 in the book in the chapter about Kawakerrie, which means those who croak make 384 00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:29.039 sounds like frogs, that some of the sounds that they observed or heard from 385 00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:35.760 these gigantic objects that appeared out of nowhere, and try to kind of reach 386 00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:39.880 out to Soviet submarines. And you are in the native waters, you are 387 00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:44.679 in a special mission. Americans can attack at any time because they have the 388 00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:47.039 right too. And all of a sudden you see this object and you know, 389 00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:51.440 a Soviet submarine. I think, what is it? So what are 390 00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:58.119 we dealing with? Is this a new American observation system to find out about 391 00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:02.440 Soviet submarines could be But it was not, because years later they found out 392 00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:09.320 during the Peristroika Gorbacho times, they spoke to their NATO colleagues and they found 393 00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:15.360 out that this was no that NATO did not send such objects and vice versa, 394 00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:22.480 that the Soviets did sends up such objects to chase NATO submarines. So 395 00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:28.559 we know now that the Americans and NATO had similar experiences, but it's all 396 00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:32.519 hashed up, but not the Soviet information because it came out because of the 397 00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:39.239 time very persistent. Former former Soviet Navy officers and others, and I bring 398 00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:44.679 them up in the book, such as Yevgenia Ludwinov, who is a very 399 00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:50.519 aged personnel, but nevertheless as a former Soviet submarine officer, a Navy officer, 400 00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:57.039 he was active in the Russian Geographical Society section for the paranormal research. 401 00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:00.440 Yeah, I can just imagine, you know, National Geographic in the United 402 00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:06.119 States having a section for the paranormal research. Well, in Russia it exists. 403 00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:09.239 Not many people still alive, but those who were did a lot of 404 00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:15.079 good research like this litwin Off, and I cherished his books. He's a 405 00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:22.280 very limited edition of his research books on the USO cases throughout the world. 406 00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:25.599 And he mentioned and I am proud that he mentions my research because I published 407 00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:30.920 articles in Russian many years ago, and they were smuggled into the Soviet Union 408 00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:36.079 and finally they were published years later and we could compare information. Listen, 409 00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:40.840 something is going on down the law, something incredible. Chinese know about it. 410 00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:45.079 I have no doubts. Americans and the Soviets worked hand in hand that 411 00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:49.960 that I forget. I mean, Cold War existed for people like you and 412 00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:53.760 me, the people who wanted to change things like I wanted freedom to come 413 00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:58.440 to the Soviet Union, this and that way. At the top, there 414 00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:04.000 was no Cold War information. I believe with one percent information was exchanged. 415 00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:09.000 Programs were being worked out, and we know, we know for sure. 416 00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:13.960 Look at the Phobus mission to Mars in nineteen eighty nine. It was a 417 00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:22.039 joint Western Soviet program. Look at the research of the Marianna Strange and you 418 00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:24.320 know, I bring up as much as I can about Mariana Strange. I 419 00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:30.199 had a video done about three years ago. I had a lot of people 420 00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:32.960 reaching out to me because, yeah, things are going on in Mariana Strange, 421 00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:37.920 and the Soviets were very much interested, and they had Americans aboard Soviet 422 00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:43.239 ships and vice versa, scientists who wanted to know, why is it that 423 00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:46.800 we're losing our equipment and what's going on down below. I want to remind 424 00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:52.639 your listeners that it was the Americans, an American and a Swiss in nineteen 425 00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:57.679 sixty three aboard a Swiss submer battist camp that went down below and for many 426 00:37:57.719 --> 00:38:02.880 years nobody else could get in. But it's changing. Russia is building in 427 00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:12.599 China ever more powerful submersible apparatuses and they're eager to get in especially China keep 428 00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:19.360 an eye in it. They created recently a special Institute for Deep Underwater Research 429 00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:22.440 and they had a few missions down there. The Japanese are ever present in 430 00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:27.079 that area. They know what's going on. And you have the island of 431 00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:32.360 Guam not far away. I wasn't touched with a journalist who published information about 432 00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:38.920 you, of course over Guam Island. Bright young men and Americans should know 433 00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:43.880 is this is the American territory, So try to find out what's going on 434 00:38:43.960 --> 00:38:47.920 there. Very interesting and what I found interesting, Martin, and I want 435 00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:52.880 to finish up with this is that in the midst of the so called Cold 436 00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:57.000 War, about I think nineteen eighty two, nineteen eighty two, and you 437 00:38:57.039 --> 00:39:04.480 will see that day throughout my book, the US Armed Forces decided to diminish 438 00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:09.280 presence of American forces on the island and the troops were cut in. Why 439 00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:14.159 I mean this was nineteen eighty two. China is their Russia. Is there 440 00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:20.760 things are going on on our planet that we can only surmise about and speculate, 441 00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:24.360 But definitely there are areas of the world that are very interesting to the 442 00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:30.159 governments of most important nations. And I would definitely say it has to be 443 00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:37.079 the Arctic, the Indian Ocean, and definitely Mariana Strange. And also because 444 00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:42.239 we live in the United States, we should pay more attention to the Bahamas, 445 00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:46.639 to the Bermuda Islands, Caribbean Sea, because the Soviets when they did 446 00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:55.559 for other reasons, and captains of Soviet submarines presented information about strange also gigantic 447 00:39:55.639 --> 00:40:00.840 and other objects they had seen moving at incredible speed. I would say with 448 00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:07.280 four hundred kilometers per hour, like two hundred and fifty miles per hour moving 449 00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:10.960 back to the submarines, and I have names and dates, and this was 450 00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:15.840 in the brinew that triangle area, also by Bahamas, by other areas. 451 00:40:16.239 --> 00:40:22.360 Very interesting stuff. Wow, this is really fascinating. I know Mark d 452 00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:28.119 Antonio talks about being on a submarine and something was going about two hundred knots. 453 00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:31.000 You know, he was a visitor, he wasn't He was there as 454 00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:36.079 a contractor. And uh, it's quite a story. You know. We 455 00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:40.239 think about the modern what we call the modern UFO era nineteen forty seven on 456 00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:47.480 upward. Did that sort of follow suit also in Russia? Oh well, 457 00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:52.000 in we have first of all, in ancient we can go back to the 458 00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:58.360 times of ancient thrust Rous and others and who I have in my books and 459 00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:06.079 videos. I bring up this various skilled observer and Arab diplomat from the Halifat 460 00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:10.440 of Baghdad who traveled to the reaches of the Volga River to visit local Muslim 461 00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:16.639 states and people, and he observed this was tenth century. He observed an 462 00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:22.119 aerial battle in the sky and the description is vivid, and of course he 463 00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:23.760 was afraid. He started praying and the local people started laughing. No, 464 00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:29.920 no, we see it quite often, very interesting and in the description is 465 00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:34.440 in historical books, and that's one. But of course there were other cases 466 00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:38.920 in the Russian history in the early Middle medieval times and on, and also 467 00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:44.519 Georgia, Armenia, a few other states and Central Asia. This is love 468 00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:47.599 Central Asia and the cases there. And it's a cool lake that I mentioned. 469 00:41:47.800 --> 00:41:52.039 So we have this. But in modern times, you you know, 470 00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:59.320 the biggest case was the nineteen oh eight Tangaska phenomenon, when something exploded or 471 00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:04.840 were staken out, was destroyed or imploded in the sky over the Tiger in 472 00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:10.159 Siberia, and the effects down below were incredible. And this case still still 473 00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:15.800 nobody knows exactly what happened. And then we had a few cases in nineteen 474 00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:21.079 twenties, nineteen fourties during the war, some before the war, but nineteen 475 00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:27.159 fourties there were very interesting cases of you of ours over the battlefields and occupied 476 00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:31.760 territories of the Soviet Union, not occupied territories, and I have videos about 477 00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:37.280 it, and it's outside of that, it's in our books. But also 478 00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:43.039 in this book we have a case of nineteen fifty one when a gigantic object 479 00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:47.119 was going towards the Soviet borders and the Soviets could not stop it. And 480 00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:52.159 the sources is the most trustful pet to Hoof, Alexandra Pete Hoof, one 481 00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:54.920 of the best view of all researchers in the Soviet Union and a scientist, 482 00:42:55.840 --> 00:42:59.920 and you know they had they were previous, so some of the cases maybe 483 00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:07.199 regular Soviet citizens would not be you know, United States has its own uful 484 00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:12.519 history we respected. But what I want to say is that United States is 485 00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:15.679 but one country. You have incredible size wise country like Russia, and you 486 00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:22.519 have China with their cases, and I'm glad I have sometimes ability to see 487 00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:27.760 Chinese developments through the Russian information. They're very much interested and what's going on 488 00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:32.039 in that country. So they had cases that go back to my God, 489 00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:37.400 to the you know, millennia ago, to the Yellow Emperor of China. 490 00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:42.800 I love that period and I did my own research, and most people don't 491 00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:47.199 know about him, but he brought civilization to China. He gave from acupuncture 492 00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:53.239 to sciences, to you know, rice production and so forth. It was 493 00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:58.840 him who brought it to China. But he was the person who ruled for 494 00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:05.760 a long time and find departed on a fiery Dragon spaceship back to the Regulus 495 00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:09.480 constellation. I mean, this is China for you. I'm not even speaking 496 00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:15.199 about some other countries. So yeah, but in nineteen fourties you had another 497 00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:19.239 You asked me, well, you have to understand that, first of all, 498 00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:23.039 United States was a territory for a Soviet espionnash. They had many agents 499 00:44:23.079 --> 00:44:29.920 here, very capable people and those who wanted to help Soviet Union voluntarily, 500 00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:34.599 and they provided information to the USSR and Stalin collected all of it. They 501 00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:39.159 had piles of information from the United States Bade based on Russwell incident and probably 502 00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:45.920 something else we don't even know about. And he collected Soviet top Soviet academicians 503 00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:51.840 and people like Sergey Karlov, father of the Soviet space science former prisoner of 504 00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:57.719 Soviet concentration camps too, and Stalin asked him to give his opinion, his 505 00:44:57.800 --> 00:45:05.239 assessment after his spends a few days secluded with translators in Kremlin. In the 506 00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:07.679 Kremlin, he wasn't allowed to go back home, looking to the pile of 507 00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:14.320 documents they brought from the United States and this was being translated. Life to 508 00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:20.199 Karlov and this was a very interesting person. We'll speak about him more anyway. 509 00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:23.519 His assessment was, yes, you have always exists, based on what 510 00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:30.000 you told me on what on what the spile and no they're No, they're 511 00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:34.000 not a danger to our armed forces. This is what Stalin wanted to know. 512 00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:38.760 That's really something because that's what it always that's always the bottom line. 513 00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:44.159 Um, you know where we talked about are there a danger? No, 514 00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:47.480 they don't appear to be a danger, which is really fascinating. Um, 515 00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:53.559 just observers, I think, um, what about the first one? Sometimes 516 00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:59.559 more that's true. A matter of fact, I believe on your your YouTube 517 00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:05.519 channel you talk about people being hurt by UFOs, we can mention that something 518 00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:09.000 along that line, right, Well, yeah, there're been injured, injured, 519 00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:15.559 detrimental effects and so forth. Yes, that happened too. And also, 520 00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:16.920 and you know, we have to bring it up because to me, 521 00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:22.519 it seems like there are two different forces out here. One is benign and 522 00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:25.920 one is not so benign. Maybe if we're lucky, it's indifferent. But 523 00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:31.679 if you start interfering the will that will destroy those who try to interfere, 524 00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:36.199 which happened a few times in the Soviet in the history of the Soviet armed 525 00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:40.280 forces, okay, and when they were losing aircraft when they try to approach 526 00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:50.199 gigantic discs in the sky or other objects. But benign forces my native Kiev 527 00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:53.039 in Ukraine, and for example, and not too far away from it, 528 00:46:53.199 --> 00:47:00.880 Chernobyl, well, during the nineteen eighties six Chernobyl catastrophe or the faster it 529 00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:06.199 was a UFO that was cited right there on the spot during the explosion in 530 00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:10.840 the fourth three actor that actually diminished the effects of the explosion by a directed 531 00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:21.199 array of energy. And this was confirmed by Ukrainian Soviet technicians and those present 532 00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:23.679 on site, and we have their names in our books too. That's very 533 00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:29.920 interesting. That's one ecology in the Soviet Union. What the communists did to 534 00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:35.639 to Russian ecology or Ukrainian ecology whatever. It's horrible and because there was no 535 00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:42.119 control over over their actions and it will take modern Russia probably a century just 536 00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:46.360 to to clean up. And they will, but the problem is known, 537 00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:51.480 it's not a problem. Maybe a solution is that UF always have been cited 538 00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:58.920 over the most contaminated areas beat in the Arctic where Soviet submarines were put down, 539 00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:04.400 and you know, nuclear stuff, new NUCLEP poison keeps leaking out, 540 00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:10.440 or in the urals or in the lake sarees for example, where it's in 541 00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:17.639 Central Asia, where there could be a horrible disaster if the if the waters 542 00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:23.639 from the lake start putting down into other countries down below. I mean many 543 00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:29.480 cases. And this gives me some kind of hope that at least there is 544 00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:31.920 a force outer that's trying to repair what we have done to the planet. 545 00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:37.519 Yeah. Yeah, And that seems to be a message, you know, 546 00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:45.199 a supposed message. A lot of people that claim they're getting telepathy is about 547 00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:47.119 how we're taking care of our planet. Seems to be a common theme, 548 00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:54.400 common thread. What was the first known USO in Russia? Well, you 549 00:48:54.440 --> 00:49:00.960 know there were in Russia one of the most interesting cases that we present is 550 00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:05.320 the sixteen sixty three case. It was you can say it was combined US 551 00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:08.480 so U A four, which is always the case when an object was sited 552 00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:14.920 over the Lake Raboo. There was a church service on the shore of the 553 00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:21.960 lake and this object kept coming in and out and changing its uh what should 554 00:49:21.960 --> 00:49:25.000 they say, radiants. It's like the trusters, you know, working up 555 00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:30.079 this is and it was observed by a very capable person down below who wrote 556 00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:35.280 everything down, and it scared people and they had biophysical effects. This was 557 00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:38.639 one of the first cases. But you know, if we're speaking about Russia, 558 00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:45.360 Yakutia as part of Russia, and I've studied yakout legends and apples for 559 00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:50.039 for for years, and they know me in Yakutia too, because I brought 560 00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:54.400 up information about their cases and what's going on in their land, well Yakutian 561 00:49:54.559 --> 00:50:01.199 tribes. I mentioned iron fish. This was probably a thousand years ago iron 562 00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:06.280 fish in the waters cold waters of the Arctic Ocean. They called it something 563 00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:09.039 else, of course, not the Arctic Ocean. But that's that's one. 564 00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:16.599 Plus. We have interesting information from the Siberian Waters, Siberian Rivers, and 565 00:50:16.679 --> 00:50:22.039 the god that was worshiped by some people, a very interesting god because if 566 00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:27.199 you look at the description of this deity, you can see that it looks 567 00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:34.440 like an ancient astronaut. Sometimes, of course, you know, you start 568 00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:37.519 getting into local legends, you find out quite a lot. In Karelia, 569 00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:45.360 it's one thing. Or if we speak about the Baltic Sea in the book, 570 00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:49.960 we present a case. It's incredible case. I hope somebody studies it 571 00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:54.679 more. In the Baltics. In eighteen forty five there was this fire that 572 00:50:54.760 --> 00:51:04.239 couldn't be put down in the Baltic Sea and it changed the actually aquatic landscape 573 00:51:04.320 --> 00:51:07.159 down below. All of a sudden soil would come up and where the waters 574 00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:14.599 would become shallow and the Barnhole island that was affected. Now, what's interesting 575 00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:17.960 is that that year, not long before that, there was a strange object, 576 00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:22.840 celestial object flying in the sky and apparently crashing into the sea. And 577 00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:29.519 the Russian navy personnel who was sent to to find out more about this fire, 578 00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:35.039 they observed, yeah, it probably has something to do with the incredible 579 00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:40.320 floods experience about the same time in the Baltic Sea. And with this strange 580 00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:45.880 object in the sky, you know, people talk about the Baltic Sea object 581 00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:49.920 down below quite a lot recently. We don't know whether it is still but 582 00:51:50.079 --> 00:51:52.239 here's something from the Baltics. And also in the book we bring a lot 583 00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:58.960 of case a dozen so more cases going back, you know, from time, 584 00:51:59.039 --> 00:52:02.559 like there was a case from a small lake in Karelia which is next 585 00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:07.880 to Finland, Russian territory, and the strange creatures observed by the lake and 586 00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:15.519 the expedition center. I hope it answers the questions now what I thought the 587 00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:21.519 Baltic, the Baltics c I forget exactly what they call it, Baltics, 588 00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:25.039 c UFO or whatever. I thought that was proven to be our rock formation. 589 00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:30.159 They have not really ruled out that it's ununknown. You know what. 590 00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:35.280 I think the people who found it keep saying that, well, there is 591 00:52:35.320 --> 00:52:37.960 something more to it, and they want to have more expeditions. I think 592 00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:42.360 they're looted for money. That's not my specialty of interest. I'm more interested 593 00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:45.199 in the Russian cases. And but what I think you should keep anne more 594 00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:49.920 and more objects of being found now at the bottom of the sea, and 595 00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:54.599 will because of the technology with our new satellites can observe much more, and 596 00:52:55.599 --> 00:53:00.320 I am more interested, to be honest. In for example, Yucatan Penina, 597 00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:06.559 I had the chance to be there twice the time period of seventeen years 598 00:53:06.559 --> 00:53:08.719 before between my visits, but I did talk to local people. I was 599 00:53:08.800 --> 00:53:14.440 doing my own research while being there, and I talked to local Mexican authorities 600 00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:20.559 because I know that the Soviets, their submarines were operating in the area. 601 00:53:20.679 --> 00:53:23.920 We don't know a lot, We just know some rumors. Some information came 602 00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:31.960 out that they observed under the water roads, incredible roads leading from the Yucatan 603 00:53:32.039 --> 00:53:37.840 Peninsula into the sea, and maybe a few interesting structures. And you know, 604 00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:45.760 recently there was information about discoveries in the Yucatan ancient Maya ruins and more, 605 00:53:45.239 --> 00:53:50.400 more and more, and there are things in the jungle that hopefully being 606 00:53:50.400 --> 00:53:55.719 protected by the local authorities from smugglers we don't know about. Yeah. Wow, 607 00:53:57.039 --> 00:54:00.039 Okay, well it's time for us to go in the break, so 608 00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:32.079 hang on, we'll be right back. Welcome back, and Paul. So, 609 00:54:32.239 --> 00:54:37.000 yeah, this I feel like I could we could talk for hours about 610 00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:40.599 this, and I'm sure you probably could, because it's it's just so fascinating, 611 00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:45.559 and you know, there's if you are ever out on a boat or 612 00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:52.639 out to sea or um like for instance, you know, just playing swimming, 613 00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:54.559 there's always like, you know, I've done a lot of diving in 614 00:54:54.599 --> 00:55:00.679 my life, but I'm never I never have like any type a fear or 615 00:55:00.719 --> 00:55:04.400 something like that. But if I'm swimming on the surface, it's always like 616 00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:07.679 a mystery of what's below. You know, you have no idea what's below 617 00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:12.840 you, but it's gonna get you or not. But so there are you 618 00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:15.519 know, you you talked earlier about this thing that looked like a great big 619 00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:21.519 gear or something under the water. That is that's so fascinating. But someone 620 00:55:21.559 --> 00:55:23.920 did ask in the chat room if you could elaborate more, if you knew 621 00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:30.800 anything more about what we're described as nine foot creatures. Yeah, sure, 622 00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:37.639 like bikelike yeah, yeah, and you know this one and they were seeing 623 00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:43.400 a similar creatures were later seen in other water bodies of the Soviet Union, 624 00:55:43.480 --> 00:55:51.760 but nine feet tall, humanoid like creatures who did not meet any breathing apparatus 625 00:55:51.760 --> 00:55:58.840 while operating down below. That's the description. Noise, not four legs, 626 00:55:58.960 --> 00:56:01.800 not six arms, humanoid, which is, you know, like us, 627 00:56:02.199 --> 00:56:07.079 which I think, in my opinion, most of the intelligent life in the 628 00:56:07.159 --> 00:56:14.400 universe will look like. But that's what had been observed. And again similar 629 00:56:14.480 --> 00:56:22.960 description from the Sietka case that Soviet scientists here Milov, who like a number 630 00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:29.320 of Soviet scientists, was not afraid to study uphology under different names, of 631 00:56:29.320 --> 00:56:37.800 course, And I find it interesting and maybe it's shaming the United States scientists 632 00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:45.079 because here we had in the USSR, under a totalitarian regime where ideology did 633 00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:49.280 not want you to study you of ohs, you still had scientists who were 634 00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:52.960 not afraid to go ahead and study u of oos. When some of them 635 00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:59.280 suffered, some of them were demoted, some loose jobs. Nevertheless, like 636 00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:05.400 Felix Siegel or Professor Burdakov, whom I had the privilege to know, and 637 00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:13.440 he was a great Soviet scientist, Russian scientists missiles space programs, had his 638 00:57:13.480 --> 00:57:20.480 own theories about comments being used as spaceships by intelligence life somewhere, and who 639 00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:25.199 asked questions about the Focus program and others. And here he was a scientist 640 00:57:25.239 --> 00:57:30.559 who was not afraid of what other scientists think about him, or the bunkers 641 00:57:30.679 --> 00:57:35.400 or other you know, busy bodies. And we found out because of these 642 00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:40.880 people so much. And it's even burdakov he met with remember in nineteen eighty 643 00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:49.079 two. I mentioned it a few times now, same year Professor meets in 644 00:57:49.360 --> 00:57:58.519 Moscow with great Herman Obert might say great because he was like Zelkovski into there 645 00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:05.039 were the fathers of more modern rocketry and basically space travel. And they met 646 00:58:05.079 --> 00:58:09.320 in Moscow in nineteen eighty two and they exchange opinions. And Burdhakov, outside 647 00:58:09.320 --> 00:58:14.320 of that, was writing quite a lot about the fobs and others, and 648 00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:19.960 he met with cosmonauts or Ajaja. We have a whole chapter about a Jaja 649 00:58:20.039 --> 00:58:22.840 in this book, and I want I asked people to read it. Ajaja 650 00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:29.360 passed away in twenty nineteen, but before then he brought up incredible amount of 651 00:58:29.400 --> 00:58:35.559 information Vladimir ra Jaja and former submariner. And because of him, maybe we 652 00:58:35.719 --> 00:58:39.519 find out more about the Navy research. Because he was the one given a 653 00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:45.920 new job by the Navy after the Communist Party fired him from his position for 654 00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:52.519 his lectures and he's daring deeds to bring up more information about your foes. 655 00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:57.599 He was fired, so the Navy hired him and gave him the job to 656 00:58:57.719 --> 00:59:06.880 write a scientific document on the problems of such objects in the in the waters. 657 00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:10.559 This was incredible. He got what he wanted. I don't think he 658 00:59:10.639 --> 00:59:15.239 revealed to the end everything that he personally had experienced. He couldn't there were 659 00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:22.719 some secrets they couldn't release, but he personally observed us a very unusual object 660 00:59:22.039 --> 00:59:28.800 when he was a board to Sivianka submarine in his younger years. Anyway, 661 00:59:29.000 --> 00:59:31.920 here was a scientist who was active. He helped create this. You know, 662 00:59:31.960 --> 00:59:37.719 the first Soviet U of our organization officially registered back in nineteen ninety and 663 00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:45.960 he was helped by a Soviet cosmonaut, Pablo Papovic who also Ukrainian and who 664 00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:52.800 was instrumental in getting scientists like Ajaja and researchers protection from those who wanted to 665 00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:58.679 harm them, so to say, in the Soviet Union. And Pablo Papovitch 666 00:59:58.840 --> 01:00:04.559 was the one who received the KGB documents and UFOs back in nineteen ninety one. 667 01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:09.480 We had other scientists like Kademician Traitski, who was actually in charge of 668 01:00:10.440 --> 01:00:17.079 somewhat civilian program to get information from the population and UFOs. See the military 669 01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:22.320 program, secret military program was not enough. They needed more information and because 670 01:00:22.360 --> 01:00:25.039 of that you can see in the book, based on what we found out 671 01:00:25.800 --> 01:00:32.440 findings of that program UFOs and USS in the Arctic Ocean other areas. Or 672 01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:38.920 we speak about scientists Vladimir Lukin, who was in charge of the Antarctic expeditions 673 01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:45.880 and was very instrumental in the Arctic research for the Soviet Academy of Scientists Sciences. 674 01:00:45.960 --> 01:00:52.280 He had he himself observed the U in the Arctic, he and other 675 01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:54.840 scientists, and he was not afraid to speak. So so he came to 676 01:00:54.920 --> 01:01:01.199 the editorial offices of the Russian Anamalian newspaper and en ninety seven he sat down 677 01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:07.480 and he told them of his experiences. I cannot see anything similar in the 678 01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:14.079 United States. I don't understand why I see something similar like that in China, 679 01:01:14.239 --> 01:01:19.400 where you know billions of UNTS go for such research, and who knows 680 01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:23.840 how many groups exist in China to study UO force, but it's all government 681 01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:29.760 research. Of course, you know very little with his review released, but 682 01:01:29.960 --> 01:01:35.159 still it goes on. I remember how curious the Chinese were when I gave 683 01:01:35.199 --> 01:01:39.920 a lecture in Hong Kong speaking about Soviet uopology Russian cases. They're very interested 684 01:01:40.000 --> 01:01:46.119 in this stuff, and I think nobody belittles UOFU researchers like you see here. 685 01:01:46.679 --> 01:01:52.159 You have semi literate journalists in our media, you know, who put 686 01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:59.440 down serious people who do research. If you compare Bruce mccabee to CNN reporters, 687 01:01:59.519 --> 01:02:04.000 there is no comparison. And you know, but yet they would make 688 01:02:04.079 --> 01:02:08.159 fun of you, of all researchers or debunkers that you know that come out 689 01:02:08.320 --> 01:02:14.599 every time some interesting information comes outside. This happened to me in nineteen ninety 690 01:02:14.639 --> 01:02:20.480 three. I was able to get a story published, an article in Omni 691 01:02:20.559 --> 01:02:25.599 magazine about Soviet you of full researchers Russian your four researchers at the time, 692 01:02:25.599 --> 01:02:29.960 and how you know we should help them and bring bridges. Of course, 693 01:02:30.039 --> 01:02:35.079 I was attacked immediately. We should not publish information like that into what the 694 01:02:35.199 --> 01:02:38.159 hell this is not Soviet Union? What do you mean you cannot publish information 695 01:02:38.239 --> 01:02:44.519 like this? But I want in my interviews, I was want to bring 696 01:02:44.599 --> 01:02:51.639 up one fact. American debunkers, their books were published very much in great 697 01:02:51.800 --> 01:02:57.320 numbers into Soviet Union. Donelmn Zel, you know you at one at one 698 01:02:57.360 --> 01:03:05.480 point your force were considered to be ideological creation of the bourgeois society out to 699 01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:08.800 full innocent Soviet people. At the other hand, Donald Menzel and his books 700 01:03:08.800 --> 01:03:14.039 are published, you know, so that's what the world we'll live in. 701 01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:22.119 Wow, amazing, really amazing. As far as when someone has actually witnessed 702 01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:29.360 a USO under the water, do they see any type of propulsion anything that 703 01:03:29.400 --> 01:03:31.440 makes the move? I mean, do they see you know, like for 704 01:03:31.480 --> 01:03:37.599 instance, if there's a submarine underwater in the propeller moves, you'll see like 705 01:03:38.079 --> 01:03:43.320 a swirl behind it. You know, there's there's you can tell what's propelling 706 01:03:43.400 --> 01:03:47.119 it forward. Is there any type of propulsion noted that you're aware of or 707 01:03:47.519 --> 01:03:53.760 noise? There wasn't. No. There are different descriptions in the book of 708 01:03:53.760 --> 01:03:59.679 different cases from the Red Sea to Indian Ocean that we present that describe you 709 01:03:59.800 --> 01:04:01.760 of oose. You know, are objects to go in and out of the 710 01:04:01.800 --> 01:04:08.239 water in different ways, and they have different characteristics to them. But what's 711 01:04:08.320 --> 01:04:13.559 interesting that most of the objects, based on my analysis, do not have 712 01:04:13.679 --> 01:04:18.239 any external thrusters or equipment that needs to move them along. So to say, 713 01:04:18.519 --> 01:04:23.119 and I re present the case about when I say we Philip Mental, 714 01:04:23.159 --> 01:04:28.599 I want to bring up his contribution. He's a great British researcher of you 715 01:04:28.719 --> 01:04:35.800 apology and my coat anyway, There is a case of the Soviet submarine that 716 01:04:35.800 --> 01:04:40.599 that surfaced not too far away from the United States, and they observed a 717 01:04:40.639 --> 01:04:45.840 gigantic cigar like object in the sky. And this was no American airship. 718 01:04:45.880 --> 01:04:48.239 They knew it was much larger. Well, it had no rather, it 719 01:04:48.320 --> 01:04:53.559 had not think in it. It was just a cigar shaped body. It 720 01:04:53.880 --> 01:04:58.519 yes, it's emitted light and so forth. And then a raider did not 721 01:04:58.679 --> 01:05:03.199 register it, but it went down into the waters and into down below and 722 01:05:03.280 --> 01:05:08.599 it disappeared. So you have objects that can come out from the waters into 723 01:05:08.880 --> 01:05:15.280 become uo fozen, then go down become usos. Others. I remember that 724 01:05:15.320 --> 01:05:25.360 we put recollections of for example, late By Crepiva was Ukrainian former submariner, 725 01:05:25.719 --> 01:05:29.199 and I knew him. Also we exchanged a lot of information, and he 726 01:05:29.360 --> 01:05:34.920 mentioned lectures that he attended by submarine officers, and they talked about this and 727 01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:41.119 this subject. But always they start speaking about most interesting, these strange objects 728 01:05:41.119 --> 01:05:45.519 they saw down below. This was during the Soviet times. Gigantic objects movable 729 01:05:45.639 --> 01:05:51.519 at incredible speeds rising up. They could see them in periscopes at incredible velocity 730 01:05:51.599 --> 01:05:56.840 through the waters. And no, there was nothing that you could really make 731 01:05:56.960 --> 01:06:03.360 out and such you could and we and I translated with my new detail objects 732 01:06:03.360 --> 01:06:14.000 that has strange UM shapes on them or protruding um parts, and I try 733 01:06:14.039 --> 01:06:17.719 to give as much information as possible, and you will you will see a 734 01:06:17.719 --> 01:06:24.360 great variety. We're not dealing just with one type of u of ose us 735 01:06:24.440 --> 01:06:28.440 os or one type of beings on this planet. This is based on my 736 01:06:28.559 --> 01:06:34.440 research. And I want to bring to your attention ancient legends of the tunnels 737 01:06:34.480 --> 01:06:40.159 that go around the world and connect different parts parts of the world, because 738 01:06:40.519 --> 01:06:45.239 I think we're getting more and more into that um situation, finding out more 739 01:06:45.679 --> 01:06:49.079 like Lake by Cow. The legends have it that it's connected with other parts 740 01:06:49.079 --> 01:06:57.000 of the of the planet with tunnels that and it has life that other lakes 741 01:06:57.000 --> 01:07:01.559 do not have. Or we should speak about the Indian Ocean because this may 742 01:07:01.599 --> 01:07:08.000 be one of the most interesting areas for USO research. There's not a lot 743 01:07:08.039 --> 01:07:12.320 of great story a lot of stories, but there are some about the Indian 744 01:07:12.360 --> 01:07:15.679 Ocean. What's interesting should be interesting to your listeners, and we bring it 745 01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:20.679 up in the book. Is that audience. Is that Pabo Papovich, the 746 01:07:20.760 --> 01:07:29.519 cosmonaut I mentioned before, he and other cosmonauts had some kind of source of 747 01:07:29.599 --> 01:07:36.000 information that they if they could use as reference. Speaking about ancient visit stations 748 01:07:36.079 --> 01:07:43.280 of our planet by sentient beings from elsewhere. It's like ancient alliens, okay. 749 01:07:43.719 --> 01:07:48.840 And he even goes into more deeper in indications, and he mentions that 750 01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:57.119 there are the three basis on our planet of such beings. And he mentioned 751 01:07:57.119 --> 01:08:00.320 to other locations, but one of them is the butt of the Indian Ocean. 752 01:08:01.239 --> 01:08:08.199 And you will see from the cases we presented that most of the cases 753 01:08:08.239 --> 01:08:13.119 do not take place in the Indian oceans, but those they do are very 754 01:08:13.199 --> 01:08:16.439 interesting. I will never forget this. In nineteen seventy six, there is 755 01:08:16.439 --> 01:08:23.079 a case in the book how the Soviet crew of a Soviet ship they were 756 01:08:23.199 --> 01:08:30.000 scared to death by the gigantic wheels under the water or a light that was 757 01:08:30.039 --> 01:08:35.880 circulating around them for a long time. And this was actually published, I 758 01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:43.520 believe, in two Soviet publications, including nineteen seventies newspaper. Do you understand 759 01:08:43.520 --> 01:08:48.119 how serious the case was that the Soviets published about it. Two They didn't 760 01:08:48.119 --> 01:08:51.840 say it was aliens or something else. But that's the Indian Ocean for you. 761 01:08:53.039 --> 01:08:58.039 And that's one of the least explored territories. But the more we find 762 01:08:58.079 --> 01:09:01.960 out, the more way have capabilities. Like in India not long ago they 763 01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:08.319 found an ancient seaport Sea Harbor, I think about five or six years ago 764 01:09:08.800 --> 01:09:14.279 and the strange, strange ruins connected to it. Well, I'm sure we'll 765 01:09:14.319 --> 01:09:16.920 find out more about, you know, by the Arabian Peninsula and so forth. 766 01:09:17.880 --> 01:09:21.760 That's very interesting and it brings me back again to to ancient Indian to 767 01:09:21.880 --> 01:09:30.920 Mahabarakta and the confirmation we had of those beings, that the raaces that were 768 01:09:30.920 --> 01:09:35.880 fighting one each other and their mythology, but the description of weapons and their 769 01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:41.920 presence down below under the waters and where else they were present. And you 770 01:09:41.920 --> 01:09:45.479 know where else on our planet they're present like uh, you know him alliance 771 01:09:46.039 --> 01:09:50.359 territories and so forth. And you will see the connections I made with Russian 772 01:09:50.399 --> 01:10:00.000 research amazing up now, you know you think of you think of water, 773 01:10:00.199 --> 01:10:04.560 as you know I mentioned it earlier that you know, these things are seen 774 01:10:04.640 --> 01:10:11.079 to travel between two mediums like it's no problem at all. But anything in 775 01:10:11.239 --> 01:10:15.319 water, anything that moves through water, it's so dense, you know, 776 01:10:15.439 --> 01:10:19.760 pushing it forward for even a submarine to do. You know, twenty knots. 777 01:10:19.760 --> 01:10:27.000 It takes a great deal of energy. And how can someone even fathom 778 01:10:27.119 --> 01:10:30.279 something that they see going four hundred miles an hour in the water under the 779 01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:34.279 water. I mean, how can you even speculate how something can do that? 780 01:10:34.720 --> 01:10:40.279 I don't know how kind of living organisms through life moving in such incredible 781 01:10:40.359 --> 01:10:45.479 speed and then stopping all of a sudden. It's it's incredible. But but 782 01:10:45.640 --> 01:10:49.439 again, you know, you see recollections of submariners and I went through I 783 01:10:49.560 --> 01:10:56.359 went through two forms where Russian submariners and former Soviets exchange information and very bright 784 01:10:56.439 --> 01:10:59.760 people, you know, very educated, and that's how I got a lot 785 01:10:59.800 --> 01:11:04.359 of um uh supporting information about the quackery case. That I mentioned those strange 786 01:11:05.039 --> 01:11:11.199 objects that so submarines encountered, and uh, you know, one of them 787 01:11:11.279 --> 01:11:16.079 recalled how their submarine was hit by something, or another one recalled that in 788 01:11:16.319 --> 01:11:21.920 the waters where the squackery were observed, how one of them moved at incredible 789 01:11:23.000 --> 01:11:27.520 speed next to the to the submarines. And they just couldn't they designed to 790 01:11:27.600 --> 01:11:33.439 support the submarines, couldn't couldn't understand how can living something living be aboorded submarine. 791 01:11:33.520 --> 01:11:39.600 So maybe it's not a living organism. Maybe it's being manned by robots. 792 01:11:39.840 --> 01:11:42.760 Uh, you know, for example, we just don't know enough because 793 01:11:42.800 --> 01:11:47.600 nobody captured the submarine like that. It's impossible. But I am I am 794 01:11:47.680 --> 01:11:54.319 sure one that China, USA and Russia at the very top level, they 795 01:11:54.399 --> 01:12:00.199 have to exchange information like this, and based on what Russian researchers such as 796 01:12:00.239 --> 01:12:06.359 Yuris Dragana years ago brought up, somehow information came out that back from nineteen 797 01:12:06.399 --> 01:12:12.880 fifties, probably from nineteen fifty six, there has been cooperation between world powers 798 01:12:13.199 --> 01:12:20.119 when it came to us all research and they cannot neglect and presence like this 799 01:12:20.479 --> 01:12:24.399 in the oceans, no way. I know. The Russian Navy will not 800 01:12:24.560 --> 01:12:29.800 neglect it. And maybe one of the reasons why Putin is putting so much 801 01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:33.359 money into the build up of the navy is not so much any threat from 802 01:12:33.399 --> 01:12:38.199 the United States. It's non existent if you think about it, you know, 803 01:12:38.479 --> 01:12:43.600 you don't see a threat from Russian navy to to to the American navy. 804 01:12:44.199 --> 01:12:47.159 China, well, you can speculate about the South Sea Islands, this 805 01:12:47.279 --> 01:12:50.760 and that. But they also do joint trainings I think once in a while 806 01:12:50.800 --> 01:12:57.119 with other countries so I don't want to be naive about the subject. But 807 01:12:57.199 --> 01:13:03.279 also I don't want to over emphasize something that doesn't exist. It's I want 808 01:13:03.319 --> 01:13:10.000 you to to look on land, in this sky and underwater things are happening. 809 01:13:10.920 --> 01:13:16.399 Our governments are trying to build up defense systems. They know why. 810 01:13:16.560 --> 01:13:21.399 For example, look at the space force creations that President Trump recently did in 811 01:13:21.439 --> 01:13:27.039 the United States. And this is you know, following the Soviet Union and 812 01:13:27.159 --> 01:13:31.720 Russia after decades they had it for nineteen sixties on, and they have very 813 01:13:31.760 --> 01:13:39.640 capable young people, young scientists who operate space forces and all, you know, 814 01:13:40.039 --> 01:13:45.920 all the technical needs necessary for new satellites and so forth. They know 815 01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:48.520 there is something in the sky. I remember in one of my videos about 816 01:13:48.560 --> 01:13:53.560 the Russian space forces, I mentioned that in nineteen seven, sorry, twenty 817 01:13:53.840 --> 01:14:00.479 seventeen, they had about six hundred thousand cases of objects come into the atmosphere 818 01:14:00.720 --> 01:14:06.560 from outer space that they're studying. This is yes six. And then now 819 01:14:08.319 --> 01:14:14.359 you have the United States active, you have China which is extremely active, 820 01:14:14.399 --> 01:14:17.039 and I pay attention to what they do on the dark side of the Moon. 821 01:14:18.640 --> 01:14:24.840 Furthermore, I mentioned that's my separate research, how China is going to 822 01:14:24.960 --> 01:14:30.039 land on one of the asteroids were supposedly there could be observation stations by so 823 01:14:30.119 --> 01:14:34.119 called aliens of our planet. It's going to happen, I believe, in 824 01:14:34.159 --> 01:14:39.520 a few in twenty twenty four, if I'm not mistaken. And China is 825 01:14:39.560 --> 01:14:45.760 building up underwater scientific facilities. They're not shy about it. They you know, 826 01:14:45.840 --> 01:14:51.399 they definitely bring for this information. So I don't think the United States 827 01:14:51.399 --> 01:14:59.079 will be far behind. And Russian scientists are working on getting ever more deeper 828 01:14:59.159 --> 01:15:04.000 into the for example, very An a strange so you know, you have 829 01:15:04.079 --> 01:15:10.079 similar efforts all over now. They don't always work together. Sometimes it's easier 830 01:15:10.119 --> 01:15:14.840 to get funding from a congress or Duma Russian parliament when you say, well, 831 01:15:14.880 --> 01:15:18.640 the other ones they're building up weapons, we need to do something similar. 832 01:15:18.960 --> 01:15:24.600 That's how they get research money. But more and more, more and 833 01:15:24.640 --> 01:15:28.920 more developments are taking place. Yeah, that's amazing. It would be great. 834 01:15:29.159 --> 01:15:32.359 I mean, it seems like it would be a goal where countries could 835 01:15:32.399 --> 01:15:36.479 work together and try to solve the mystery. You know, it would be 836 01:15:36.520 --> 01:15:41.039 good for everybody. It will be great, of course, but you know 837 01:15:41.119 --> 01:15:45.520 you cannot United Nations is not something you can count on, and somehow they 838 01:15:45.520 --> 01:15:49.600 have to work together. But you know, people ask me sometimes, well, 839 01:15:49.640 --> 01:15:54.920 what's going to happen if Alien's land or how would look? We have 840 01:15:55.039 --> 01:15:59.479 so many diverse cultures on this planet. We have so many religions, so 841 01:15:59.479 --> 01:16:04.880 many leaves, and you know, it's it's hard to explain to some of 842 01:16:04.920 --> 01:16:11.600 them, um, what can happen, what would happen if and developments that 843 01:16:11.720 --> 01:16:15.199 have happened. And it's too bad because their beliefs will come in conflict with 844 01:16:15.279 --> 01:16:21.399 the with the fact that we're not alone in this universe. And more than 845 01:16:21.479 --> 01:16:28.520 that, you know, you know, we we have had cases and legends 846 01:16:28.600 --> 01:16:34.680 and stories of visitations in our past. They are very interesting facts to confirm 847 01:16:34.720 --> 01:16:41.600 it. And it's in the ancient writings of India and China and in Russia 848 01:16:41.640 --> 01:16:45.800 you can find cases like that as well. But you can't escape it. 849 01:16:45.840 --> 01:16:51.640 Look in southern California, for example, you have Catalina Island. A few 850 01:16:51.720 --> 01:16:59.319 few people in southern California realize the scope of UFO sightings in the area, 851 01:16:59.399 --> 01:17:03.640 and you, as Ohs and even less people would understand that this was a 852 01:17:03.680 --> 01:17:12.000 forbidden territory. In World War Two for American special American forces were being trained 853 01:17:12.039 --> 01:17:15.039 on the island. Who knows what else was happening. Well, there are 854 01:17:15.079 --> 01:17:20.760 different stories about this place or or some people talk about Malibu and unusual sightings 855 01:17:20.760 --> 01:17:25.720 in this area. But you go forward, you go on, like northern 856 01:17:25.720 --> 01:17:31.000 California or Oregon. I remember years ago there was a story that I kept 857 01:17:31.079 --> 01:17:38.399 from a local newspaper, probably in early nineteen nineties, about this unusual noise 858 01:17:39.199 --> 01:17:45.680 that was recorded coming from from down below from the ocean, Pacific Ocean, 859 01:17:45.680 --> 01:17:48.600 and they couldn't understand what it was, and I think they never came to 860 01:17:48.680 --> 01:17:55.720 the conclusion what it really was. But such noises are heard not only in 861 01:17:56.079 --> 01:18:01.439 the American waters in other areas too, and very very unusual phenomena. And 862 01:18:01.479 --> 01:18:06.000 I want to be straightforward with your audience. In my opinion, more than 863 01:18:06.079 --> 01:18:11.840 seventy percent of what has been cited is military. What you see is what 864 01:18:11.920 --> 01:18:15.600 military maybe don't want you to see, but it's military tests in the atmosphere. 865 01:18:15.880 --> 01:18:19.000 That's what you of wows are another let's say, let's give a ten 866 01:18:19.039 --> 01:18:24.760 percent or more that's probably inexplicable, a natural phenomena. We just don't know 867 01:18:24.800 --> 01:18:30.680 how to explain it. Five to ten percent. I reel uful cases that 868 01:18:30.720 --> 01:18:39.560 we may be dealing with most likely are with advanced exeterrestrial civilization or manifestation of 869 01:18:39.640 --> 01:18:44.439 an ancient civilization that is active on our planet. That's just we don't know 870 01:18:44.520 --> 01:18:49.840 too much about, but obviously an advanced presence. It can be found in 871 01:18:50.000 --> 01:18:57.079 legends. It can be found most likely in the underwater territories or in the 872 01:18:57.239 --> 01:19:01.079 tunnels under Asia, for example. I've heard rumors about South America. I 873 01:19:01.239 --> 01:19:10.439 don't know enough, but I do know about Tibet. About Mongolia an area 874 01:19:10.720 --> 01:19:15.199 very much like to research, and we have cases from Mongolia in the book. 875 01:19:15.479 --> 01:19:21.560 Mongolia also has legs and very interesting cases. And I always bring forward 876 01:19:23.720 --> 01:19:30.520 information from Ivan Efremov, who was a great Soviet Russian scientist. He was 877 01:19:30.560 --> 01:19:35.439 a genius in many ways, and he was described as a person out of 878 01:19:35.600 --> 01:19:43.439 bounds of space and time by his American friend in UCLA, a professor A 879 01:19:43.560 --> 01:19:50.199 one. Efremov brought forth incredible amount of information about ancient past and modern history. 880 01:19:50.560 --> 01:19:57.920 And he was also the one who knew where to look for diamond minds 881 01:19:57.920 --> 01:20:01.920 in Siberia, to the effect that the CA GiB started started following him and 882 01:20:03.239 --> 01:20:08.399 very much interested in his persona. He one ear frame of was the one 883 01:20:08.880 --> 01:20:14.880 that influenced many cosmonauts and people like me with his beliefs in outer space exploration 884 01:20:15.039 --> 01:20:21.600 and presence of advanced extrasial civilizations throughout the universe, how they will work all 885 01:20:21.640 --> 01:20:26.880 together. His books are incredible. But more than that, he was in 886 01:20:27.000 --> 01:20:33.359 Mongolia in late nineteen fourties in expeditions. They're very curious expeditions to find dinosaur 887 01:20:33.399 --> 01:20:40.479 bones, but they found a few other things, including a skeleton of a 888 01:20:40.640 --> 01:20:47.119 gigantic being, remember nine feet being people ask me about the swimmers were Well, 889 01:20:47.239 --> 01:20:54.279 in Mongolia, he knew where to take his expedition to exactly, and 890 01:20:54.319 --> 01:21:01.520 it took them a while to be able to get into the to get action 891 01:21:01.680 --> 01:21:06.720 into the cave and so into the grave of this strange being that was buried 892 01:21:06.760 --> 01:21:11.600 there for some reason, nobody knows why. And it was a very unusual 893 01:21:11.680 --> 01:21:15.800 skeleton of a nine foot like being. And the skeleton was given to the 894 01:21:15.960 --> 01:21:23.359 Soviet archaeological expedition later because Efremov still had to do things in Mongolia, but 895 01:21:23.439 --> 01:21:27.319 there were pictures that were forbidden in the Soviet Union. Well, I bring 896 01:21:27.399 --> 01:21:30.680 up as much as I can about him, and again, here is Mongolia, 897 01:21:30.800 --> 01:21:36.039 here is strange things that are taking place there. And we had Nikolai 898 01:21:36.159 --> 01:21:45.520 rich the great Russian painter and philosopher, who most likely was a KGB agent 899 01:21:45.600 --> 01:21:54.840 for some time during his expeditions in the area, and he talked about strange 900 01:21:54.840 --> 01:21:59.479 people that sometimes come out from nowhere and Mongolia from under the ground, so 901 01:21:59.560 --> 01:22:03.520 to say. And they trade coins that nobody has ever seen before. So 902 01:22:03.560 --> 01:22:09.600 you start taking one part you know, to another, and I'll just finish 903 01:22:09.640 --> 01:22:12.640 off with one year frame off because I want people to know more and more 904 01:22:12.680 --> 01:22:17.079 about him. He was considered to be an extraterrestro by the KGB, and 905 01:22:17.159 --> 01:22:21.640 when he died, they raided his apartment. They took away all his things, 906 01:22:21.720 --> 01:22:27.359 and they also wanted to take away their urn where his ashes were kept. 907 01:22:27.359 --> 01:22:30.960 But his wife, Taia Ramaba put her foot down. She was a 908 01:22:30.960 --> 01:22:34.880 willful person and did not let the KGB take it out. His case is 909 01:22:34.880 --> 01:22:43.000 still classified. There are forty four zero volumes pertaining to the investigation. There 910 01:22:43.039 --> 01:22:46.520 is no more Soviet Union, but his cases still you still cannot get to 911 01:22:46.640 --> 01:22:51.880 those files and it's not safe to ask too many questions. This person was 912 01:22:51.920 --> 01:22:58.640 a scientist, a writer, magnificent book. More than that, he knew 913 01:22:58.640 --> 01:23:04.359 about Africa, he knew about others, and knowledge that nobody knows how he 914 01:23:04.399 --> 01:23:09.239 came about. Because of him, I made my own trip to Africa many 915 01:23:09.319 --> 01:23:13.840 years ago and did my own research in Southwest Africa, and I tried to 916 01:23:13.880 --> 01:23:18.960 bring more about Namibia in my videos because they also have very interesting lakes and 917 01:23:19.199 --> 01:23:27.520 very interesting stories. Wow, that's that's totally fascinating, you know, going 918 01:23:27.600 --> 01:23:33.199 back to the USOS in general that you've researched, I was thinking, is 919 01:23:33.239 --> 01:23:45.000 there any is there any convincing photographs ever taken or film or sonar records that 920 01:23:45.199 --> 01:23:50.000 are available? I mean, has anyone ever captured at anything that's uh actually 921 01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:57.159 like evidence? Look at the photographs in du book. We have several the 922 01:23:57.239 --> 01:24:01.640 latest Yes, yes, yes, especially when it comes to the territory of 923 01:24:03.439 --> 01:24:11.039 the United Kingdom South Georgia Island and Soviet submarines and so called fishing fleet. 924 01:24:11.079 --> 01:24:16.600 Because they were doing other things there, they took photographs of the strange objects 925 01:24:16.600 --> 01:24:20.880 in the sky over that island. I'm sure the British are modest and don't 926 01:24:20.920 --> 01:24:26.800 want to talk about it, but Soviets had to describe the u of alls 927 01:24:26.880 --> 01:24:30.600 they observed during their I'm sure espionage missions and the waters of Saint Georgia. 928 01:24:30.760 --> 01:24:34.039 There are some other ones. I think the latest one we had a Ukrainian 929 01:24:34.079 --> 01:24:40.479 case from two thousand and six where Black Sea. You asked me about the 930 01:24:40.520 --> 01:24:45.880 Black Sea and how they cited an object. It was a board. I 931 01:24:45.920 --> 01:24:51.159 believe it was the Russian submarine, but the Ukrainian scientist was present and not 932 01:24:51.239 --> 01:24:55.960 a photograph, but I think that's what is it called. I forgot about 933 01:24:55.960 --> 01:25:00.279 it, but what you will see it's a photograph but with some other technology. 934 01:25:00.720 --> 01:25:05.039 It's in the book. A few other illustrations. I think one of 935 01:25:05.079 --> 01:25:12.960 the most famous Soviet photograph taken of an object that was ascending from the waters 936 01:25:13.000 --> 01:25:16.159 next to the Soviet ship. It's there. So whatever we were able to 937 01:25:16.159 --> 01:25:19.960 collect and I got from from the former Soviet Union and so forth, it's 938 01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:25.840 there. And you know, in my other research in the YouTube channel, 939 01:25:25.880 --> 01:25:28.920 for example, like I said, I get more. I get photographs from 940 01:25:28.920 --> 01:25:32.800 modern Russia or or whatever other depictions we can get. Sometimes videos too. 941 01:25:35.439 --> 01:25:41.880 It's not you cannot keep things like that under lad too too much. You 942 01:25:41.960 --> 01:25:45.720 cannot. And the time comes when people want to know you. I always 943 01:25:45.760 --> 01:25:53.520 bring somebody I really respected. It was our former President Gerald Ford when he 944 01:25:53.640 --> 01:25:59.600 was a congressman, and how he was adamant about getting fourth information from the 945 01:25:59.720 --> 01:26:04.439 US Air Force about cases in nineteen mid nineteen sixties, there was so many 946 01:26:04.600 --> 01:26:11.119 UFOUR cases here in the United States. But I compare them two cases in 947 01:26:11.640 --> 01:26:15.760 Soviet Union, Central Asia, for example, during the horrible earthquakes in uh 948 01:26:16.199 --> 01:26:19.680 Tskant, you know, about the same time. But there are cases all 949 01:26:19.720 --> 01:26:26.720 over the world and fascinating people. People wrote to me Americans, they said, 950 01:26:26.760 --> 01:26:29.560 Paul, you know we you know, you brought up this case in 951 01:26:29.680 --> 01:26:31.960 nineteen sixties, nineteen sixties, but this is what I saw when I was 952 01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:38.640 a child in Chicago. For example, UFOs over this part. I'll never 953 01:26:38.680 --> 01:26:45.039 forget it. And you know, people start exchanging information. But gerald Ford 954 01:26:45.359 --> 01:26:51.479 brought forth disinformation, and you know, there were a few others that they'll 955 01:26:51.560 --> 01:26:58.920 bring photographs. I'm sure they're locked up incredible photographs, you know, in 956 01:26:58.960 --> 01:27:03.119 the archives and the United States, and I am not sure if we ever 957 01:27:03.199 --> 01:27:08.000 we will see them. It's not for me or you to decide, but 958 01:27:08.119 --> 01:27:13.039 hopefully one day. Yeah, I like, uh, you said earlier, 959 01:27:13.520 --> 01:27:17.640 what you what your your thoughts were on what these things are? And that 960 01:27:17.760 --> 01:27:21.760 was interesting. I had. I heard many people talk about, you know, 961 01:27:21.760 --> 01:27:30.159 the possible the military is possibly you know, a segment and the anomalies 962 01:27:30.399 --> 01:27:36.760 possibly a segmentum, and then the possibility of extraterrestrial and then I have never 963 01:27:36.800 --> 01:27:41.560 heard anyone say what you said about the ancient part of that. That's the 964 01:27:41.600 --> 01:27:45.159 first time I've ever heard anyone ever bring that part into it. I think 965 01:27:45.199 --> 01:27:49.800 that's that's pretty interesting. Absolutely, I want, I always want to give 966 01:27:51.000 --> 01:28:00.840 to give honor to Soviet scientists who started speaking about so called ancient alien hypothesis, 967 01:28:01.079 --> 01:28:05.560 palio contact, that's contact from the ancient times, that's what they called 968 01:28:05.600 --> 01:28:11.760 it. And we're publishing as much of their views as possible. And I 969 01:28:11.840 --> 01:28:17.279 bring up Garbowski in the book and how much information he collected, Alexander Garbowski 970 01:28:17.640 --> 01:28:25.279 or other writers, even going back to Alexandra Kazansov, who was a Soviet 971 01:28:25.800 --> 01:28:30.000 engineer who was the actually the first one who who started bringing information about nineteen 972 01:28:30.000 --> 01:28:36.720 oh eight Tangaska phenomenon as being an explosion of an alien spaceship. Look, 973 01:28:36.760 --> 01:28:41.720 he was well connected. He was never purged in the Soviet Union in nineteen 974 01:28:41.960 --> 01:28:46.159 thirties under Stalin, although he was in New York for a special exhibit in 975 01:28:46.279 --> 01:28:50.159 nineteen thirty nine. I forgot the world exhibit something like that. He was 976 01:28:50.279 --> 01:28:57.600 here. He had incredible connections because of him, people like that Kazanzov and 977 01:28:57.800 --> 01:29:02.800 his beliefs in also ancient and civilizations coming to our planet. That's how you 978 01:29:02.920 --> 01:29:13.239 apologists started in the Soviet Union, under the guise of lectures about the Tangasca 979 01:29:13.399 --> 01:29:16.840 or this they could speak, started speaking about your force back in nineteen footies 980 01:29:16.840 --> 01:29:21.600 when Stalin was still alive. That's one thing. But we had others, 981 01:29:21.680 --> 01:29:29.039 And I gotta tell you, well, before Western writers they exposed, they 982 01:29:29.119 --> 01:29:34.760 exposed information about ancient aliens. But there are civilians, even if well connected. 983 01:29:35.000 --> 01:29:40.840 But then you had Pablo Papovitch, a cosmonaut who spoke about only one 984 01:29:40.880 --> 01:29:45.600 of another cosmoat who recently passed away. I had nothing but respect to him 985 01:29:45.720 --> 01:29:50.399 or who his role was very different in your full research than Pablo Papovitch. 986 01:29:50.920 --> 01:29:56.800 Well, anyway, although he did not believe in the presence of any so 987 01:29:56.920 --> 01:30:02.720 called aliens anywhere in the Solar System, he nevertheless said that we know that 988 01:30:02.800 --> 01:30:13.600 our planet was visited millennia ago by advanced exeterya still beings there were, you 989 01:30:13.640 --> 01:30:16.239 know, and it's not the only one. So this is very interesting stuff 990 01:30:16.840 --> 01:30:23.039 and it brings up we don't know what they discovered, what they had in 991 01:30:23.079 --> 01:30:27.000 their hands. In my research, I always bring up information, by the 992 01:30:27.039 --> 01:30:32.000 way, which Professor Burdakov whom I mentioned before, he talked about it about 993 01:30:32.039 --> 01:30:39.920 the Soviet scientists being given an object back in early nineteen fifties to assess and 994 01:30:40.000 --> 01:30:44.199 to give their explanation about what is it that you're holding in your hands? 995 01:30:44.640 --> 01:30:47.920 Top scientists, and they couldn't at the time. Well today, well know 996 01:30:47.960 --> 01:30:53.479 what a microship looks like, but they didn't know back in early nineteen fifties. 997 01:30:54.399 --> 01:30:57.520 I mean, if somebody told me this story, I would say, 998 01:30:57.520 --> 01:31:01.439 okay, where is the source. Professor bak Of again, who worked for 999 01:31:01.520 --> 01:31:09.680 thirty two years or more in the Space a Vehicle design Bureau of Sergey Karlov, 1000 01:31:09.960 --> 01:31:13.920 who wasn't afraid to speak in about your force when he worked in the 1001 01:31:14.000 --> 01:31:18.960 Pukawa Observatory. Here's here's the source. And we had more. Kiev, 1002 01:31:19.119 --> 01:31:25.359 where I am from, had a very interesting case. It was about a 1003 01:31:25.399 --> 01:31:30.640 so called rocket which was discovered for the second time back in nineteen forties. 1004 01:31:30.880 --> 01:31:35.399 He was discovered before, but then they they did not want to excavate it. 1005 01:31:36.520 --> 01:31:42.239 Under the Czaris times, they had more, more, more and more 1006 01:31:42.279 --> 01:31:44.640 and more modestly, let's say, they didn't want to deal with something they 1007 01:31:44.640 --> 01:31:49.159 didn't understand. In nineteen forty six, there was no modesty. They uncovered 1008 01:31:49.239 --> 01:31:57.199 a rocket ship like object in Kiev. Apparently they cut it in several pieces, 1009 01:31:57.279 --> 01:32:01.520 they being whoever was in charge of the expedition, and it was transferred 1010 01:32:01.520 --> 01:32:08.520 to Moscow. What's interesting that, according to to the son of one of 1011 01:32:08.560 --> 01:32:14.920 the archaeologists who worked into this, inside the inside that rocket ship there were 1012 01:32:15.279 --> 01:32:21.880 writings similar to ancient Sanskrit, the language of India. Wow, this was 1013 01:32:21.960 --> 01:32:29.119 and still you know, there's only very little information about it. But also 1014 01:32:29.159 --> 01:32:36.439 in nineteen fifty three in Kiev there was a KGBX operation to uncover a chest 1015 01:32:38.239 --> 01:32:46.399 which was also contained ancient manuscripts which described something like Star Wars battles okay in 1016 01:32:46.439 --> 01:32:51.920 many languages. And somebody who was inside but was afraid to speak for years 1017 01:32:51.960 --> 01:32:57.520 about it, he spoke about it. But I also had my own separate 1018 01:32:57.600 --> 01:33:03.560 research and this is in my video about Armenia as involved. But what happened 1019 01:33:03.680 --> 01:33:11.840 is during the if you remember the Alexandria Library, almost everything was burned by 1020 01:33:11.880 --> 01:33:16.119 fanatics, all the books, but not all. There was a There was 1021 01:33:16.159 --> 01:33:21.880 a manuscript and a map of ancient Mars which only had one satellite, not 1022 01:33:23.119 --> 01:33:30.319 to one satellite, and this was found its way to Armenia in ancient times. 1023 01:33:30.359 --> 01:33:33.119 And there was a case of the KGB, one of the KGB agents 1024 01:33:33.159 --> 01:33:40.520 actually getting his hands on the manuscript. And it's a fascinating story, I 1025 01:33:40.560 --> 01:33:45.119 believe. I give my conclusion, but I think that document is one of 1026 01:33:45.159 --> 01:33:48.640 the most important archives in Armenia still today, and I give dates and more 1027 01:33:48.680 --> 01:33:51.680 than that. So here is another one. But it takes you now to 1028 01:33:53.199 --> 01:34:00.760 another territory which is fascinating Mars, and it's two very interesting satellites for Bus 1029 01:34:00.800 --> 01:34:05.880 and Demos. And I know that Boss Aldrin could give much more information, 1030 01:34:06.119 --> 01:34:13.399 I'm sure than he gave recently speaking about this strange monument on Phobus. I 1031 01:34:13.479 --> 01:34:20.600 know what the Soviet scientists knew based on my information from Professor Burdakov and Marina 1032 01:34:20.600 --> 01:34:25.359 Popovich. I met her in Los Angeles many years ago and she gave me 1033 01:34:25.399 --> 01:34:31.319 the photograph and a few other information bids about the strange demise of the Soviet 1034 01:34:31.359 --> 01:34:39.520 spacecraft in nineteen eighty nine. Bottom line, Phobus most likely is an artificial 1035 01:34:39.600 --> 01:34:45.479 creation put in the orbit of Mars. Who knows when our governments know about 1036 01:34:45.560 --> 01:34:50.840 it, and they are eager to get to it. Some expeditions failed, 1037 01:34:51.199 --> 01:34:57.319 like the joint Western Soviet expedition in nineteen eighty nine. Here's an example of 1038 01:34:57.479 --> 01:35:02.760 joint efforts. Another one failed, it was the Russian Chinese. But more 1039 01:35:02.920 --> 01:35:11.520 keep your eyes out on that part of our solar system because Phobus is definitely 1040 01:35:11.800 --> 01:35:15.359 something where we want to get to. And I think that I planned expedition 1041 01:35:15.960 --> 01:35:19.439 for the next in the next five years, because there is something on that 1042 01:35:19.640 --> 01:35:27.359 moonlet that doesn't want us to do tests on its surface, or maybe just 1043 01:35:27.479 --> 01:35:33.520 being present in that part. I remember there's something about that of that it's 1044 01:35:33.520 --> 01:35:38.680 like looks like a potato or something I remember hearing about. It's a strange 1045 01:35:38.720 --> 01:35:44.840 looking moon. It's spooking. It doesn't how come it has so many, 1046 01:35:45.159 --> 01:35:49.680 you know, m traces of volcanic activity, but it cannot have volcanoes. 1047 01:35:49.760 --> 01:35:57.680 It's it's a small object. Listen to this many years ago Professor Shklovsky, 1048 01:35:57.840 --> 01:36:01.039 friend of Carl sagan In back in nineteen sixty three in the Soviet Union, 1049 01:36:01.399 --> 01:36:08.880 he came out with the hypothesis that phobus and demos are artificial bodies and the 1050 01:36:09.079 --> 01:36:14.000 hollow inside and he changed his opinion. I don't know, I didn't know 1051 01:36:14.079 --> 01:36:18.600 under whose presence pressure later, but he was very adamant about it, and 1052 01:36:18.680 --> 01:36:27.000 he spoke about hollow inside of the of that potato like celestial body. Not 1053 01:36:27.199 --> 01:36:30.520 long ago, European scientist, I think it was about four years ago, 1054 01:36:30.840 --> 01:36:38.560 confirmed that phobus is a hollow body. It's like they, but it's the 1055 01:36:38.680 --> 01:36:42.800 Americans also. You know how it was discovered, you know, let's put 1056 01:36:42.800 --> 01:36:48.960 it in italics. Discovered by an American astronomer, for sure, in ninety 1057 01:36:49.000 --> 01:36:54.720 eighteen seventy six. Until then, nobody knew about their presence, right except 1058 01:36:54.800 --> 01:37:00.720 Jonathan Swift knew about it. And in the Troubles of Gulliverer he describes two 1059 01:37:00.760 --> 01:37:04.920 moonlets of Mars. And if you have time, the listeners, they should 1060 01:37:04.920 --> 01:37:09.920 go back and read the description of those strange moonlets and compare to what we 1061 01:37:09.960 --> 01:37:15.399 know about them today. So here is this ancient knowledge, ancient knowledge that 1062 01:37:15.960 --> 01:37:23.479 somehow we get bits and pieces of it. But it's fascinating stuff. Yes, 1063 01:37:24.039 --> 01:37:27.319 that is. And you know, I mean, if you want to 1064 01:37:27.319 --> 01:37:31.880 speculate about, say, if we've been visited, you know, it wouldn't 1065 01:37:31.920 --> 01:37:36.840 have anything to do with our development and our time now. If we're being 1066 01:37:36.960 --> 01:37:43.760 visited, we could have been visited for a million years or however long you 1067 01:37:43.800 --> 01:37:45.840 know, there were species walking around this planet, we could have been visited. 1068 01:37:46.119 --> 01:37:53.199 Because if there's another civilization, an intelligent civilization, or many intelligent civilizations 1069 01:37:53.199 --> 01:37:56.960 out there and they're actually figured out how to travel here, it would have 1070 01:37:57.039 --> 01:38:00.920 nothing to do with our time now, because for our times to line up, 1071 01:38:01.239 --> 01:38:06.520 you know, doesn't really matter. Remember the Ural Mountains, it's I 1072 01:38:06.680 --> 01:38:13.319 always tell Americans who visit trust this. It's it's a wonderful, very picturesque 1073 01:38:14.039 --> 01:38:18.479 territory, but it's full of mysteries. And one of them is of the 1074 01:38:18.920 --> 01:38:28.520 nanotechnology like objects found by Russian geologists back in early nineteen nineties. And I 1075 01:38:28.600 --> 01:38:33.199 know those people. I corresponded with some of them and I they sent photographs 1076 01:38:33.199 --> 01:38:41.840 of those objects. It's like something exploded in the urals and the diameter of 1077 01:38:41.920 --> 01:38:46.560 the explosion was probably hundreds of miles, and it most likely it happened about 1078 01:38:46.560 --> 01:38:50.520 three hundred thousand years ago based on what they could do to date it. 1079 01:38:51.199 --> 01:38:55.960 And of course the objects were found deep below the soil, not on the 1080 01:38:56.039 --> 01:39:00.600 surface. And I wish there was money to study this because there are still 1081 01:39:00.640 --> 01:39:06.000 people in Russia still the scientists um who was observing and she still has it 1082 01:39:06.119 --> 01:39:11.279 in her safe and others do. But but there's no there has not been 1083 01:39:11.640 --> 01:39:15.279 serious study of these objects. But they said, look, it's it's not 1084 01:39:15.760 --> 01:39:19.279 it's not our military. They went to the military, Russian military, and 1085 01:39:19.319 --> 01:39:23.640 they said, no, this is not our projects. This is not something 1086 01:39:23.680 --> 01:39:29.439 that we could even do today. This is very interesting stuff against ural mountains, 1087 01:39:29.520 --> 01:39:33.640 and there is more about the urals. I wanted to show you this 1088 01:39:33.920 --> 01:39:38.800 object, and of course it's for people on YouTube. This is a place 1089 01:39:38.880 --> 01:39:43.600 I um when I was hiking in Russia that I came to and I forget 1090 01:39:43.600 --> 01:39:46.000 what they're called. I'm sure you may know what they're called, Dolman. 1091 01:39:47.119 --> 01:39:53.000 That's right, that's exactly right. Yes, And they're ancient they have because 1092 01:39:53.079 --> 01:39:58.399 it's stone and cut stone. They have absolutely no idea how all these things 1093 01:39:58.439 --> 01:40:01.560 are, but they could they speculating over twenty five thirty thousand years ago. 1094 01:40:02.199 --> 01:40:05.319 But I don't know why. I wanted to bring that up, but I 1095 01:40:05.359 --> 01:40:09.359 just think that it's fascinating. Though. Let me tell me. I think 1096 01:40:09.560 --> 01:40:12.680 we also mentioned them in the book. But there is a legend in the 1097 01:40:12.760 --> 01:40:19.359 Caucasus territories about dwarf like was very small human und creatures. They came from 1098 01:40:19.359 --> 01:40:25.439 the ocean, and who built up those domains and they had strange knowledge. 1099 01:40:25.720 --> 01:40:30.479 And again the size of the creatures takes me to the Ural mountains and they 1100 01:40:30.520 --> 01:40:33.840 shoot people that were rumored to go and live in the boats of the mountains. 1101 01:40:33.840 --> 01:40:38.359 But let's go back to the Caucasus Mountains. They built up those domains 1102 01:40:38.920 --> 01:40:43.840 and they were not like religious. There were someone for some other purposes. 1103 01:40:44.000 --> 01:40:46.359 You can find them in not far from nowhere, sisk I think, but 1104 01:40:46.439 --> 01:40:55.000 also through the Caucasus Mountain territories. And one not long ago, some idiots 1105 01:40:55.520 --> 01:41:00.239 I decided to see if they can take apart one of those structures and put 1106 01:41:00.239 --> 01:41:02.880 it back together. And they could not. They could not put it back 1107 01:41:02.920 --> 01:41:09.359 together. They were and nobody knows why. I mean Caucasus Mountains, cough 1108 01:41:09.399 --> 01:41:14.560 Castle and Russia. He's a fascinating territory as well. I brought up in 1109 01:41:15.359 --> 01:41:23.159 articles and in my video information about the objects that were observed over Georgia Kingdom 1110 01:41:23.199 --> 01:41:29.279 of Georgia back when the Mongol Empire attacked them, and another from Armenia as 1111 01:41:29.319 --> 01:41:33.279 well of objects that had been cited there. It's fascinating. But even before 1112 01:41:33.319 --> 01:41:39.560 you start getting into more ancient times and sing reports. And what's interesting when 1113 01:41:39.560 --> 01:41:45.920 we speak about those nine food creatures that I was asked about swimmers. I 1114 01:41:46.119 --> 01:41:50.960 found a fascinating story in a book that was published in the United States in 1115 01:41:51.079 --> 01:41:58.039 nineteen twenty five by a Georgian emigree and how he when he was a boy 1116 01:41:58.079 --> 01:42:03.479 and other boys were able to get inside the cave in Georgia submerged caves now, 1117 01:42:03.600 --> 01:42:08.399 but at that time they could get into it and they found skeletons of 1118 01:42:08.760 --> 01:42:15.880 nine food humanoid beings inside that cave. Can you believe it? And it's 1119 01:42:15.920 --> 01:42:19.960 not the only place, I'm sure in the former Soviets there are stories from 1120 01:42:20.000 --> 01:42:27.039 Lake is a cool But again, nine food not not gigantic beings, but 1121 01:42:27.199 --> 01:42:35.199 taller than us. That's fascinating. Wow, let's see we have we have 1122 01:42:35.319 --> 01:42:40.119 about let's see about six or seven minutes. But one thing I wanted to 1123 01:42:40.159 --> 01:42:42.800 make sure. I also wanted to show you this. This was my favorite 1124 01:42:42.800 --> 01:42:46.920 one that we found. I really like this one and I walked all around. 1125 01:42:46.960 --> 01:42:50.159 I think I got a bunch of pictures of it. They I can't 1126 01:42:50.159 --> 01:42:55.720 believe the way they cut into however long ago it was where they cut from 1127 01:42:55.720 --> 01:42:59.279 one rock right into another, and that always fascinates me. With you know, 1128 01:42:59.359 --> 01:43:02.960 early architecture around the world. How they can cut stones so amazing with 1129 01:43:03.000 --> 01:43:10.359 what type of tools you know, Yeah, absolutely great. One thing I 1130 01:43:10.359 --> 01:43:14.159 wanted to make sure that we got across air beside your book, and by 1131 01:43:14.159 --> 01:43:17.319 the way, anyone listening to the show, in the show notes and also 1132 01:43:17.399 --> 01:43:23.439 on the sidebar on my website podcast ufo dot com, you will see access 1133 01:43:23.520 --> 01:43:29.640 to this book that we've been talking about this evening. But what about your 1134 01:43:29.760 --> 01:43:32.720 YouTube channel? You're doing some great shows. A number of people in the 1135 01:43:32.800 --> 01:43:35.960 chat room wanted me to tell you that they really liked your channel a lot. 1136 01:43:38.279 --> 01:43:40.720 And I do have one question I promised I put up there in a 1137 01:43:40.760 --> 01:43:45.840 second. But let's give information about how people can get to that YouTube channel. 1138 01:43:46.079 --> 01:43:50.920 Very simple, par and normal research, Paul stone Hill. Just you 1139 01:43:50.960 --> 01:43:57.359 know, get footed into the search in YouTube and you will come into my 1140 01:43:57.520 --> 01:44:02.119 channel. And I every week I try to put up more videos on different 1141 01:44:02.119 --> 01:44:08.359 subjects related to Eurasian and of course Russian paranormal and more. For example, 1142 01:44:08.359 --> 01:44:12.760 I want to work on the cases from the eighteenth century. It was a 1143 01:44:12.840 --> 01:44:19.000 magnificent and the bloody century in the history of my country. But many things 1144 01:44:19.079 --> 01:44:29.560 happened, many things were found and pretending to to let's say, paranormal research 1145 01:44:29.640 --> 01:44:34.760 and strange people who conducted it. And I promise I'll bring more videos about 1146 01:44:34.840 --> 01:44:41.920 this subject, but also about other aspects of Russian and Central Asian and Chinese 1147 01:44:41.960 --> 01:44:46.000 paranormal just as long as you know I have the ability to do it all 1148 01:44:46.000 --> 01:44:51.039 continue, yes, I'll say, Okay. The question, let's say the 1149 01:44:51.119 --> 01:44:57.159 same person asked two different questions, so along the same line. This is 1150 01:44:57.239 --> 01:45:03.319 from Stephen. How have the governments been able to maintain the UFO secrecy for 1151 01:45:03.359 --> 01:45:11.479 so long? I'm sure that they have great capabilities in their hands to do 1152 01:45:11.560 --> 01:45:15.199 so. They have agencies to help them protect this information, and it's a 1153 01:45:15.319 --> 01:45:21.800 national security issue for such governments, so no efforts, unknown money will be 1154 01:45:21.840 --> 01:45:29.159 spared to do so. Okay, very good. Here's another question I thought 1155 01:45:29.279 --> 01:45:34.000 was kind of interesting. Has Putin never commented on or touched upon? Dave? 1156 01:45:34.439 --> 01:45:40.199 You know UFO or USO phenomenon in any degree. Absolutely. About a 1157 01:45:40.279 --> 01:45:44.560 month ago I put up a video of Vladimir Puttin and UFOs. All the 1158 01:45:44.640 --> 01:45:48.880 information is in sight, including what he said in two thousand five and what 1159 01:45:49.600 --> 01:45:57.239 he is at the time president of Russia midvideo said in later years. Conflicting 1160 01:45:57.279 --> 01:46:01.159 information, but very interesting. And I want to assure you that Vladimir Putin 1161 01:46:01.520 --> 01:46:10.359 is very serious about developments in the sky over Russia and in the waters around 1162 01:46:10.439 --> 01:46:15.760 Russia as well. Wow. Well, and someone asked earlier on I can't 1163 01:46:15.760 --> 01:46:18.800 find it right now, but what is your favorite USL case if you have 1164 01:46:18.960 --> 01:46:27.159 one, my favorite U I have a number, a number of cases to 1165 01:46:27.319 --> 01:46:31.600 me. One of the most interesting cases was what happened to the Soviet ship 1166 01:46:31.720 --> 01:46:41.840 Nomura Sisk when it was completely disabled by US. But also also cases in 1167 01:46:41.880 --> 01:46:46.920 the Far East and around comp Chatka, especially comp Chatka Peninsula. It's a 1168 01:46:47.079 --> 01:46:54.800 very interesting area to keep your eyes on. And probably yes, so ahead, 1169 01:46:54.840 --> 01:47:00.399 go ahead. Probably cases around the Coil Islands very interesting. We have 1170 01:47:00.520 --> 01:47:02.560 just a couple of minutes, but can you just for my own interest, 1171 01:47:03.079 --> 01:47:09.359 because Nova Assist is the place that I got there, and so what this 1172 01:47:09.399 --> 01:47:12.800 thing was disabled? You said, well, yeah, but it was disabled 1173 01:47:12.800 --> 01:47:15.520 that the ship not no, what a season. It was the ship, 1174 01:47:15.960 --> 01:47:18.079 but it was the name of the ship. But it was disabled by I 1175 01:47:18.199 --> 01:47:23.319 say, the name of the ship was going and uh, hope, I 1176 01:47:23.399 --> 01:47:26.000 we call it correct. But no, it was disabled. It wasn't that 1177 01:47:26.119 --> 01:47:29.520 long ago. It was back in earlier I'm sorry, in late nineteen eighties, 1178 01:47:29.560 --> 01:47:34.960 but still under the Soviet regime it was completely disabled. And but the 1179 01:47:35.000 --> 01:47:43.880 most scary um case goes back to nineteen seventy seven when a Soviet submarine base, 1180 01:47:44.000 --> 01:47:49.920 floating submarine base was approached by nine objects and the and the strange dance 1181 01:47:50.479 --> 01:47:57.399 they did in the sky over this submarine base in the in the secret waters 1182 01:47:57.399 --> 01:48:00.960 of the Arctic Ocean, and what the captain did, how he forced the 1183 01:48:01.000 --> 01:48:05.640 crew to write down what was happening because he didn't want to be considered to 1184 01:48:05.640 --> 01:48:13.199 be an insane person when they got to shore. Wow, that's pretty fascinating. 1185 01:48:13.680 --> 01:48:16.479 Well, thank you so much. And the name of the book again 1186 01:48:17.199 --> 01:48:23.039 is Russia's Let me get to it. I see it, Russia's USO Secrets 1187 01:48:23.520 --> 01:48:28.239 Unidentified Submersible Objects. And you can finish the rest because I can't see it 1188 01:48:29.199 --> 01:48:32.600 in international Waters. Is that yes, yes, thank you, yeah, 1189 01:48:32.640 --> 01:48:36.720 all right, we'll make it too completely Russia's USO Secrets. You will find 1190 01:48:36.760 --> 01:48:42.800 it, yes, and written by you and with Philip Mantel as well. 1191 01:48:42.840 --> 01:48:46.199 He'll be on the show in a few weeks down the road. So thank 1192 01:48:46.239 --> 01:48:48.640 you so much, Paul. It's been a real pleasure as always, really 1193 01:48:48.800 --> 01:48:51.800 really nice to talk to you tonight. Thank you so much, all the 1194 01:48:51.840 --> 01:48:55.880 best to thank you. All right, sure, all right, everyone, 1195 01:48:55.960 --> 01:48:59.760 So that's it for our show. The tenth of November, that's when I'll 1196 01:48:59.760 --> 01:49:03.840 be back and I'm going to be with a Irene Previn from Australia. I 1197 01:49:03.920 --> 01:49:09.239 want to thank everyone that listened to the show and for the people that have 1198 01:49:09.439 --> 01:49:12.439 helped out as well. I appreciate it all. Thanks for your good questions 1199 01:49:12.439 --> 01:49:16.600 and chat and I think that's going to do it for today. And remember 1200 01:49:16.600 --> 01:49:39.760 to keep your eyes to this guy.