WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.719 --> 00:00:09.039 It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for Ignition with the 2 00:00:09.080 --> 00:00:13.880 aw Fan podcast team. A boy, we just saw Double or Nothing and 3 00:00:13.960 --> 00:00:18.120 there's a lot of stuff leading up to Dynamite that we're going to talk about. 4 00:00:19.199 --> 00:00:24.679 This is Kelson, This is Alex and yeah, I don't know what 5 00:00:24.719 --> 00:00:30.239 you want to talk about. First, I was thinking maybe the biggest moment 6 00:00:30.359 --> 00:00:38.399 from Double or Nothing was the return of MJF. Definitely that was pretty big. 7 00:00:39.439 --> 00:00:46.840 Yeah, and I think that that's pretty interesting. Like MJF he did 8 00:00:46.880 --> 00:00:53.240 return right after a will Osprey match, and for my money, like thinking 9 00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:58.399 about AW the biggest few that they could possibly have, what I'd love to 10 00:00:58.399 --> 00:01:03.439 see maybe headlining or a big match at all in is MJF versus will Osprey. 11 00:01:03.799 --> 00:01:07.680 I don't know how how you guys feel, but I feel like will 12 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:11.640 Osprey is like way better than anyone expected promo wise, but no one's better 13 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:17.239 than MJF. And I just want to see them in the ring cutting a 14 00:01:17.280 --> 00:01:22.200 promo setting up an amazing match. Well, Ax, do you think that 15 00:01:22.280 --> 00:01:26.000 maybe that's having MJF and will Osprey is maybe a little too soon to take 16 00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:30.359 their shot? Yeah? No, you know what I do feel like that. 17 00:01:30.560 --> 00:01:36.319 I feel like you you wait, so maybe not all in, but 18 00:01:36.319 --> 00:01:42.000 but that's that's a feud, like like Rock Austin and I know that's like 19 00:01:42.040 --> 00:01:47.560 a huge feud, but that could be like Aw's version of that, like 20 00:01:47.760 --> 00:01:53.239 just their two biggest stars at the top of their game having a feud that 21 00:01:53.280 --> 00:01:57.760 could last for years and years and they could come back to it. Yeah. 22 00:01:57.799 --> 00:01:59.719 I mean, well, I would have used a different example. I 23 00:01:59.879 --> 00:02:05.519 was or Pentacle and Nila Rose, but Austin, okay, I look for 24 00:02:05.599 --> 00:02:07.400 a look for HIMJF to come back and do a little bit. I think 25 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:15.719 you got to do the Samoa Joe out Adam Cole kill before you do anything 26 00:02:15.759 --> 00:02:20.039 with anybody else. New you got to come back. He's come back. 27 00:02:20.439 --> 00:02:25.400 He's already. He's already fired the first salvo against Adam Cole. So all 28 00:02:25.400 --> 00:02:29.400 we have to do now is wait for Adam Cole to get cleared and then 29 00:02:29.439 --> 00:02:31.000 you can have that battle. And that's where they should go with him first. 30 00:02:31.039 --> 00:02:35.120 But that was an amazing thing to see that night. That was a 31 00:02:35.199 --> 00:02:38.159 huge pop. MK. Let me ask you this did because I didn't notice 32 00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:42.479 anything that anybody else. I'll ask MK, and everybody else could chime in 33 00:02:42.479 --> 00:02:46.400 if they want. I didn't notice like any kind of stiffness or any kind 34 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:53.960 of limp or anything from him from MJF, did you. No, I 35 00:02:54.080 --> 00:03:00.240 think he's back and better than ever. He he he put on some good 36 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:07.000 moves and he and he's well well, like I said, repeat myself, 37 00:03:07.039 --> 00:03:10.960 but he's back and he's ready to go. And I was. I was 38 00:03:10.960 --> 00:03:16.120 more interested in seeing Adam Cole taking the bump than I was in JF doing 39 00:03:16.120 --> 00:03:21.639 it, because that means he's getting ready to come to be better to come 40 00:03:21.680 --> 00:03:24.319 back. No, I did read. I did read a report that Adam 41 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:30.080 Cole is not close to being cleared, and I did notice him limping a 42 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:35.240 little bit. I don't know if that was k fabe. That was before 43 00:03:35.439 --> 00:03:39.680 MJF did anything to him. He did limp a little bit, but he's 44 00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:46.439 definitely moving better than he was when he was sitting in the wheelchair. Yeah, 45 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:51.599 he took a brainbuster, so his feet feet don't really have to take 46 00:03:51.639 --> 00:03:59.439 any impact. He doesn't have to run around m So what exactly he in 47 00:03:59.479 --> 00:04:02.240 here? I think he broke his foot, right, he was just like 48 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:06.960 jumping off a ramp. Yeah, I think it was the foot as Yeah, 49 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:10.439 he messed his ankle whip when he came off the ramp. But though 50 00:04:10.599 --> 00:04:14.560 I can't remember which show it was now, so it's the same type of 51 00:04:14.639 --> 00:04:24.639 thing that Adam Copan is going through, I think, out of probably a 52 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:30.680 little bit more serious. Yeah he should. He fractured his shin so tibia. 53 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:33.959 Yeah, yeah, it was basically your shin. So he's going to 54 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:36.759 have to require surgery and it's going to be a little bit more than an 55 00:04:36.800 --> 00:04:43.839 ankle injury. Yeah, But the good news is they'll probably put some uh, 56 00:04:44.399 --> 00:04:46.639 you know, screws in that sucker and just have him heal up and 57 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:50.399 be ready to go again. He'll just have a hard time getting through security 58 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:54.399 at airports from now on. He's a damn vampire. Come on, now, 59 00:04:54.959 --> 00:05:00.240 yeah, they have healing powers, come on exactly. That was a 60 00:05:00.639 --> 00:05:04.480 stupid spot, though, wouldn't you say? Yeah, I mean, I'm 61 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:09.639 fifty six years old. If I was wrestling, there ain't no way in 62 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:13.519 the hell I'm climbing fifteen feet in the air. And he would have not 63 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:17.319 hurt himself if he would have hit Malaki first, But he jumped to his 64 00:05:17.439 --> 00:05:21.519 feet first. That made no sense. I'm sitting there going did he just 65 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:25.399 blow that was that a Was that a botch? Or? Did he do 66 00:05:25.439 --> 00:05:27.959 that? Was that was a botch? It? If you did? You 67 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:33.519 see the uh the I guess the video that Adam Copeland did where he basically 68 00:05:33.519 --> 00:05:39.360 made fun of himself. You know, he was like, I messed up, 69 00:05:39.639 --> 00:05:44.560 you know, totally on him. Even went so far as I raised 70 00:05:44.600 --> 00:05:48.480 the House of Black and uh say that they're great and everything, and he's 71 00:05:48.519 --> 00:05:56.319 gonna name his crutcheses uh after the boys. I'm I was crying. I 72 00:05:56.680 --> 00:06:02.360 was literally crying when I saw that. So let's get back though. I 73 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:08.240 mean, MK, you think it was you? You brought up Samoa Joe 74 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:13.879 finish business with Samoa and Joe. Maybe just maybe, oh that was you? 75 00:06:14.399 --> 00:06:18.759 Uh maybe going on to Adam Cole, maybe even Roderick Strong because you 76 00:06:18.759 --> 00:06:25.560 know he's part of that too. I don't know if anybody can make Roderick 77 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:30.240 Strong all event, it would be MJF, right. Uh. I feel 78 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:34.879 like Roderick Strong is a dynamite feud for m JF. That's not a pay 79 00:06:34.879 --> 00:06:41.959 per view, right. Does anybody else anybody else have a wish list of 80 00:06:42.439 --> 00:06:51.639 first opponents for MJF? M Not really? I mean there's so many I 81 00:06:51.680 --> 00:06:58.360 can think of, like Christian m JF Faith versus Christian heal. That would 82 00:06:58.399 --> 00:07:03.959 be a lot of fun for sure, him versus Okada, him versus like 83 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:12.360 even Jack Perry, like seeing him represent aw against the elite, that could 84 00:07:12.399 --> 00:07:15.920 be a lot of fun. Like there's so many directions really anything with m 85 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:18.839 JF. It's hard to go wrong. It's going to be interesting. But 86 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:26.839 anything he is going to be elevated. Yeah, go ahead, don't go 87 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:33.079 h you know him versus Jack Perry sells a lot because at last double or 88 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:41.959 nothing, I believe it was he said that the Jack Perry needs to embrace 89 00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:46.600 a different side of himself and and and Perry finally has. So I think 90 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:51.920 those two will be a great matchup to see. It will give Perry some 91 00:07:51.959 --> 00:08:01.240 credibility because you both can go uh, you know he he needs that right 92 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:09.519 now. I like this storyline because it's helping Jack Perry a lot. And 93 00:08:09.639 --> 00:08:15.319 Jack Perry needs that one guy to set him up and put him on the 94 00:08:15.399 --> 00:08:22.759 road to mandivent status. Yeah not. Do you have any opinions on this 95 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:31.360 on who you would like to see is Jeff's first opponents? I think I 96 00:08:31.399 --> 00:08:39.240 think Jack Perry is a pretty good choice for him. I don't know. 97 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:46.559 I would like to see him take on our esteemed EVPs and some some role 98 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:54.279 maybe uh not just you know, Jack Perry, maybe Al Kata something like 99 00:08:54.360 --> 00:09:05.159 that, something a little unexpected and just really really interesting. MJF is quite 100 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:09.159 the character, so I think that anyone he wrestles it will be a really 101 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:15.399 good lead up too, and I anticipate that almost as much as I do 102 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:20.559 the actual match. So I'm just excited to see him back. Well, 103 00:09:20.679 --> 00:09:24.399 you know, this kind of brings me into the next point that we're going 104 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:31.399 to talk about, and that's the owen Hart Cup and the announcement being that 105 00:09:33.519 --> 00:09:37.559 the winners of the owen Hart Cup will be the number one contenders for the 106 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:46.519 men's and women's titles. Now this was before Adam Copeland broke his leg. 107 00:09:46.559 --> 00:09:52.639 Because on Dynamite we're getting the Forbidden Door Casino Gauntlet, which also has the 108 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:54.879 stipulation at the winner and this is only on the men's side of course, 109 00:09:56.440 --> 00:10:03.039 will get a championship shot at Forbidden Door. Now, there are going to 110 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:07.360 be some international stars supposedly in this match. But here's the thing. This 111 00:10:07.919 --> 00:10:16.679 was the winner the of the Forbidden Door Casino Gauntlet and the owen Hart Cup 112 00:10:16.039 --> 00:10:24.519 are going to be getting the same reward, and that's a chance, at 113 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:31.960 least on the men's side at the aw Men's Championship. My idea was, 114 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:41.000 because of Adam Copeland's injury, why not make the Forbidden Door Casino Gauntlet as 115 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:52.159 a as the thing that determines who gets the shot at the TNT Championship. 116 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:58.159 Last two men standing get a shot in the T and T Championship and then 117 00:10:58.240 --> 00:11:03.320 just have the owen Hart for what I think from thearre in Kelson is that 118 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:07.639 the Owen Heart's not going to take place till after Forbidden Door. That's how 119 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:13.639 I took it. I took it that wants they announced the casino for Forbidden 120 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:16.159 Door that as soon as because you've got like a month and a half a 121 00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:24.480 month and a half almost between Forbidden Door and uh all in, so I 122 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:28.080 assumed that that was where they would put the owen Hart Battle after Forbidden Well, 123 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:33.320 they've already said that, Yeah, the finals are July tenth. Yeah, 124 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:39.320 so they'll have the casino things tomorrow night to determine the Forbidden Door winner 125 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:43.200 or challenger, and then whoever wins from Forbidden Door will face whoever wins the 126 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:50.639 owen Hart at all in Yeah, you know, so let's us look at 127 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:56.639 the old Heart real quick. Do we think that it would be smart to 128 00:11:56.600 --> 00:12:01.200 don't remember you got? I hope that they put out the entire brackets like 129 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:07.799 they did with the Continental Classic, so that we can see the entire brackets 130 00:12:07.840 --> 00:12:11.759 and not just make them up as they go as they've done in the past. 131 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:24.200 But with the owen Hart Cup. Would you like to see international wrestlers 132 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:35.000 in in the owen Hart as well? And honor yes, but because he 133 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:39.840 did spend time in Japan, I wouldn't being in there. I don't know 134 00:12:39.879 --> 00:12:46.399 who the top of my head, but I you know, you gotta give 135 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:48.799 it some flair. You gotta give them a chance. And you know, 136 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:54.159 I think it would be neat if they don't lose in the first round. 137 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:58.639 Let's put them in there and give them a chance at least a small scott 138 00:13:01.360 --> 00:13:09.639 right, Yeah, I think it'd be good. Yeah. I want to 139 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:15.360 share something with you guys about the women's division in the owen Hart Cup, 140 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:20.440 because the women's division has a little bit of a problem going on, right, 141 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:26.639 okay, And let me just explain what the problem is. On the 142 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:35.320 official roster for aw's women's divisions, there's thirty eight women. Okay. Out 143 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:39.919 of those thirty eight women, fourteen of them are either out with injury or 144 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:46.679 paternity leave, or or just or just not used in a wrestling capacity, 145 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:50.919 like for example, Riba. You know, she's still on the roster, 146 00:13:50.559 --> 00:13:54.919 but she's not been used. Leila Gray, she's wrestling everywhere else but a 147 00:13:56.360 --> 00:14:00.879 w Now, there are a few that are wrestling, like tayavl Athena, 148 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:05.240 Billy Starks are almost exclusively on our oh, but they're on the AW roster. 149 00:14:05.799 --> 00:14:09.720 But here's the problem that they're running into. And I am including Chris 150 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:13.919 Statlander in this up to twenty four remaining women who are not out right now, 151 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:22.600 only eight of them are babyfaces. So you've got one third of the 152 00:14:22.639 --> 00:14:30.120 women's roster that's active right now our babyfaces. At two thirds of the women 153 00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:37.000 are heels. So you are you are you putting Tony Storm and Mariah may 154 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:43.799 As in that situation? I kind of amu. I am putting Mariah may 155 00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:48.120 As a heel because she's been wrestling mostly heels. Now, there are some 156 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:54.720 that are queens. They're ambiguous, like Kira Hogan, she's a babyface sometimes 157 00:14:54.720 --> 00:14:58.519 and she's a heel sometimes she plays the part that she's asked to play. 158 00:14:58.759 --> 00:15:03.000 So it's not an exact science, but the fact of the matter is, 159 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:07.399 if you were to go through the roster right now and look at the women 160 00:15:07.480 --> 00:15:11.559 that are actively wrestling, you will clearly say that there's a significantly more heels 161 00:15:11.559 --> 00:15:15.960 that there are baby faces. Yeah, and it is a problem, and 162 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:18.799 I agree with you one hundred percent. And they do it way, way, 163 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:22.080 way too much. In aw if you look at the men's roster, 164 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:26.159 you're going to see a lot of men or heels too. For whatever reason, 165 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:31.600 Tony Kahn loves to have everybody be a heel, and it doesn't work. 166 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:37.080 You can't have That's like making the nWo all nWo black and white and 167 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:43.200 everybody else, like fifty thousand people all heels and you've got six people that 168 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:45.639 are faces. It doesn't work like that. You got to stretch it. 169 00:15:45.720 --> 00:15:48.480 That was like one of the reasons why the whole need to turn stat Lander 170 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:54.360 a heel or lily heel made no sense because you just add another heel to 171 00:15:54.440 --> 00:15:58.960 a bunch of heels that you can't you know, you can't have competition like 172 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:07.279 at but it's like a shortcut to generate interest or give them a new thing 173 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:11.440 to do. But the problem with that is, ever since the dawn of 174 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:18.240 the Internet, your heel face then kind of doesn't make any difference anymore because 175 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:22.159 you you you, you're gonna get heat. I mean, how many, 176 00:16:22.279 --> 00:16:26.600 how many times we see guys like Austin who was a heel but generated better 177 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:30.279 heat. You got more cheers than anybody else on the roster. Look at 178 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:37.159 MJF. MJFF biggest he in the company, but he gets face heat because 179 00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:40.960 people love him. But you're not getting that from everybody. And that's where 180 00:16:40.960 --> 00:16:45.840 the problem comes in. Well with somebody like he'll with a heel like Austin 181 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:52.360 and MGF, they were more like they're more like anti heroes. You didn't 182 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:56.240 you didn't say, oh I hate that guy and I hope he gets a 183 00:16:56.279 --> 00:16:59.799 crap beat out of him very often. I mean, you're always like, 184 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:03.360 I just want to see him in the ring and doing a promo. You 185 00:17:03.399 --> 00:17:06.880 know, you got excited for the pop that they were going to give. 186 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:10.799 I mean, it was that fair assessment and and sudden, you know, 187 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:15.920 you grew up in the same era that I did. Basically, And I 188 00:17:15.920 --> 00:17:18.799 don't know about you guys, uh you know, but when I was growing 189 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:23.519 up, babyfaces just got the snop beat out of them. I mean, 190 00:17:23.759 --> 00:17:29.400 babyfaces never had a belt, and if they had a belt, a long 191 00:17:29.480 --> 00:17:33.440 run for a babyface was a month, two or three weeks month. You 192 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:38.279 know, I didn't have these long you know. I mean Rick Fleer, 193 00:17:38.319 --> 00:17:42.319 for example, Rick Dusty Roads were bitter rivals, but it was the most 194 00:17:42.359 --> 00:17:47.200 couldn't beat Rick Flair just to save his life. But it was all about 195 00:17:47.359 --> 00:17:52.000 the baby face chasing the title right for like months or even years, just 196 00:17:52.240 --> 00:17:55.359 to get that one point where they actually went Yeah. I mean, it 197 00:17:55.440 --> 00:17:59.160 was like one of those things where it was very emotional when a babyface won, 198 00:17:59.240 --> 00:18:03.960 because ever happened, my father was My father was always saying, you 199 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:07.480 know how much he was disappointed in wrestling, because it always taught the kids 200 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:12.640 that watched wrestling that the bad guys were the only ones that succeeded. Well, 201 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:18.079 I think it was when the bad guys had the titles the most, 202 00:18:18.759 --> 00:18:22.640 but it was a bigger deal when the baby face won. The reason I 203 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:26.119 brought that up is that with the owen Hart Cup, there's going to be 204 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:33.200 a problem with having babyfaces to fill out the bracket. I don't think there's 205 00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:37.559 probably only going to be eight eight people like, it's probably going to be 206 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:44.559 four and four at most sixteen, but I think you'll be I'll think you'll 207 00:18:44.559 --> 00:18:48.519 have eight. But it's gonna make it because because you don't want to have 208 00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:51.720 a heel going against the heel. It's gonna be when you see the baby 209 00:18:51.759 --> 00:18:56.279 faces in the bracket, it's gonna be like almost obvious who's gonna win? 210 00:18:56.599 --> 00:19:03.839 So who do you think is going to win? Like can is Jamie Hayter? 211 00:19:03.079 --> 00:19:10.319 And and then still hurt to where they can't they debut back and and 212 00:19:10.440 --> 00:19:15.160 be their first matches back into this tournament, because I thought I heard that 213 00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:22.359 Jamie Hayter was almost back and Britt Baker was too. Brit Baker's they've shown 214 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:26.640 many videos of Britt Baker training with the likes of DDP. She looks in 215 00:19:26.759 --> 00:19:34.519 great shape. She spent backstage at dynamites and collisions and whatnot, but Jamie 216 00:19:34.519 --> 00:19:41.720 Hayter as not. And I just read a story from one of the Dirt 217 00:19:41.759 --> 00:19:44.920 sheets, and I don't know which one, saying that Jamie Hayter was not 218 00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:51.319 at double or nothing, and there's no timetable with Jamie Hayter one thing. 219 00:19:51.400 --> 00:19:57.440 You know, as far as who's going to win Alex Uh, I think 220 00:19:57.480 --> 00:20:03.880 that because Brit Baker had won the owen Hart before, I think it's gonna 221 00:20:03.880 --> 00:20:15.200 come down to Uh, Britt Baker versus Willow Nightingale with the owen Hart because 222 00:20:15.240 --> 00:20:19.440 they've both wanted before. Yeah, my prediction because I think it's maybe the 223 00:20:19.480 --> 00:20:23.960 biggest story they've had going and we know that the winner is going to compete 224 00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:30.000 it all in for the Women's Championship, So I I think Mariah May has 225 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:34.240 a shot. I would look it set up an interesting match and it's a 226 00:20:34.279 --> 00:20:38.000 good way to showcase Mariah May is a threat. Like, yeah, I 227 00:20:38.279 --> 00:20:45.240 think that could be a really cool outcome. Yeah, but you're saying go 228 00:20:45.279 --> 00:20:51.880 ahead. I can see. Remember there are some younger folks who have potentially 229 00:20:51.960 --> 00:20:56.839 able to come back because reports are that Megan Bain is ready to come up 230 00:20:56.880 --> 00:21:00.240 and they're gonna get her a heel Gammick. There could be someone from Startingdom 231 00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:03.319 that comes over for a little bit, so I can see that. I 232 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:10.119 love to give Megan Vain some experience and this and actually get her to win 233 00:21:10.160 --> 00:21:14.759 a match or two. But if I'm booking at I would look it as 234 00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:22.279 this is a perfect way for Mariah May two, drive Tony Thorm a little 235 00:21:22.279 --> 00:21:29.319 bit crazy and possibly her get close to it as well. Well. That 236 00:21:29.319 --> 00:21:33.400 that's going to depend on what happens if Forbidden Door, because they have the 237 00:21:33.440 --> 00:21:38.400 opportunity there to start the whole to begin the feud between Tony Storm and Mariah 238 00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:44.839 May. But because you see, that's the whole problem with that whole tournament. 239 00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:48.480 If let's say Tony loses it Forbidden Door, are they gonna leave her 240 00:21:48.519 --> 00:21:52.799 spot to have a chance at rematch at all? In I'd love to see 241 00:21:52.839 --> 00:21:59.680 Mariah May or even Scott Blue when that on the women's side, because I 242 00:21:59.720 --> 00:22:03.720 mean that would be amazing. On the men's side, I look for somebody 243 00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:10.160 like, uh, one of the younger guys that hasn't had a shot yet. 244 00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:17.119 Maybe Daniel Garcia would be a great win. Mm hmm. But Daniel 245 00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:22.680 Garcia versus Swerve or whoever's the men's champion and that as the main event of 246 00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:30.359 Wembley Stadium, that seems a little yeah, black and I love Daniel Garcia, 247 00:22:30.519 --> 00:22:33.680 but that's a tough s. Sorry, I don't know on the men's 248 00:22:33.720 --> 00:22:41.359 side, who I would honestly put that can match match it and make it 249 00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:47.799 like this big thing, because right now there's so many people on that side 250 00:22:47.839 --> 00:22:52.200 that I don't want to see Mocksley versus you know, it needs to be 251 00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:57.559 a two big names that have come up and done the thing, because there's 252 00:22:57.599 --> 00:23:03.319 so many big Manvin has already who who contential would do it, But I 253 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:08.680 want to see all in the electric and someone who can match him move or 254 00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:12.480 move and just go crazy with it because a lot of people want Osprey just 255 00:23:12.519 --> 00:23:18.279 for because it's hometown guy. But it doesn't need to be. Yeah, 256 00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:22.519 how it is way in the future, you know, compared to Forbidden Door. 257 00:23:22.319 --> 00:23:26.359 Want to look, here's the thing. Okay, we know we are 258 00:23:26.480 --> 00:23:30.359 going to know tomorrow night who's going to be challenging strickling at Forbidden Door. 259 00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:36.799 And they've already said that there's going to be international champions or international wrestlers in 260 00:23:36.839 --> 00:23:41.759 this Forbidden Door because you know, Gauntlet match tomorrow night. So I fully 261 00:23:41.799 --> 00:23:48.119 expected an Internet and international wrestler to win this match, so that it is 262 00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:55.319 a Forbidden Door, true forbid door match at Forbidden Door. Here's one of 263 00:23:55.359 --> 00:23:57.759 the concerns I have is that I don't know how many people are going to 264 00:23:57.839 --> 00:24:03.920 be in this match tomorrow night that Forbidden Door got because you know, Gauntlet. 265 00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:07.799 But I hope that it's not some of the same guys that are in 266 00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:14.400 the Owen Heart Cup. And I also hope that it's not some people that 267 00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:15.880 when you look at them going there, will like, okay, there's the 268 00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:18.920 butcher to Blaze. They're going to be eliminated because you know that they're not 269 00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:22.480 going to be going to Forbidden Door, and it probably what may be the 270 00:24:22.519 --> 00:24:26.319 main event in fighting for the aw Men's Championship, you know what I mean. 271 00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:30.000 So they've got to play it smart, you know, Yeah, they 272 00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:33.680 can't, but they can't double up on the Owen Hard Cup. It's it's 273 00:24:33.839 --> 00:24:40.240 very weird. Well like the Owen Cart Cup is it's it's going to be 274 00:24:40.319 --> 00:24:45.400 six months, six weeks from now. Uh, it'll it won't start until 275 00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:49.720 after Forbidden Door, I assume, so we'll probably have long forgotten the match 276 00:24:49.759 --> 00:24:56.680 tomorrow night by the time the Owen Heart started. And yeah, I'm I'm 277 00:24:56.799 --> 00:25:00.559 very intrigued because this is supposed to be an international match. Theoretically, we're 278 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:07.720 getting an international opponent for swerve, I've forbidden door, But yeah, what 279 00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:11.279 is the what's the mix going to be? Because yeah, I don't want 280 00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:15.960 to see a lot of aw people in the match. To more, I 281 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:21.480 want to see as many CML guys, New Japan guys. Uh, maybe 282 00:25:21.480 --> 00:25:27.880 some surprises, right, maybe start Rob d Dam in there. Yeah, 283 00:25:29.640 --> 00:25:33.200 he's going to be in it. Honestly, what was that? Mkay? 284 00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:38.079 I wish they would announce who who's going to be in that match because it 285 00:25:38.119 --> 00:25:41.720 would help me to know who to look out for and who to research a 286 00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:45.119 little bit figure out who they are. Well, it's kind of a Gauntland 287 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:48.599 match. Well it's Gotland match, So it's they're gonna be that tells me 288 00:25:48.680 --> 00:25:53.640 what they're coming out one by one? Right for every two minutes, I 289 00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:56.799 would like to know how many people that they have scheduled to come into the 290 00:25:56.799 --> 00:26:02.240 bat So yeah, I yes, it's kind of random because the match can 291 00:26:02.279 --> 00:26:06.960 theoretically based on how they did it last time, It can end at any 292 00:26:07.079 --> 00:26:11.240 time. It can end after two guys are in the ring. That's whoever 293 00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:14.880 gets the pinfall first, right, Yeah, so I guess they could keep 294 00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:19.920 on coming out forever. Yeah, Well you know, look, I mean 295 00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:26.119 that's going to be an interesting batch tomorrow night, and I hope they don't 296 00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:29.720 leave the show with it because I think it needs to be special, you 297 00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:36.559 know, and I yeah, but you also have to you know, I 298 00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:41.559 talked about doubling up on the owen Hart Cup. You know, Alex, 299 00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:44.079 you made a good point that the owen Hart Cup isn't going to be starting 300 00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:47.759 till maybe after we've forgotten about this match. But you know what isn't going 301 00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:52.839 to be forgotten is who's going to battle for the interim TNT Championship. So 302 00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:57.720 you Atw's kind of got a little bit of a it's probably maybe a good 303 00:26:57.759 --> 00:27:00.559 problem, but it's still a problem. They got to figure out what they're 304 00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:07.920 going to do with these belts. Yeah, so it's very weird. Yeah, 305 00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:11.839 And Tony's go to is a tournament, and now you have sort of 306 00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:17.119 a mini tournament tomorrow night. You have a tournament starting up in four weeks, 307 00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:21.200 So are you gonna squeeze another tournament in there? Are you gonna figure 308 00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:26.759 something else out for the the TNT title. My sleeper pick for tomorrow night, 309 00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:30.880 if he's in it, is going to be Juice Robinson, you know, 310 00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:36.359 coming back from an injury, and you know he showed up at at 311 00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:41.279 double or nothing. He looked ready to go have a lose, right, 312 00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:51.039 I got Jeff Cobb, that's a good one. Yes, he was in 313 00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:56.160 that match the week before and or wasn't there one he was in last week 314 00:27:56.279 --> 00:28:00.640 so he looked like, yeah, so I think it's I think he's going 315 00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:06.880 to be asleep before tomorrow night. What about the Abril kid he's been talking 316 00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:10.720 trash about. Aw. I don't know if this is a gimmick or or 317 00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:12.960 not, but I think that would be very interesting to see. Ah, 318 00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:18.759 yeah, that would be interesting. Yeah, he's interesting. And the thing 319 00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:22.839 with him is if he shows up in a w it does make him a 320 00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:32.519 hypocrite, whether that's a problem or not. But yeah, well, I 321 00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:36.000 mean we'll do a heck of a lot more tomorrow night. We'll be certainly 322 00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:38.519 talking about it on All YE Talk tomorrow night. Yeah. Yeah, I 323 00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:41.400 think this is an awesome way to do it, just having you don't know 324 00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:45.599 who's going to show up. They're going to have a ton of random guys, 325 00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:49.000 the MLL guys. Hopefully we get Hetchasarrow. I'm very excited for this 326 00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:52.880 match. Yeah, yeah, so what do you want to talk about deck 327 00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:59.480 STYLEX. I'm seeing this. I didn't catch the media scrum, but apparently 328 00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:04.000 Tony con and I know there's been rumors of women's tag belts, but he 329 00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:11.559 also mentioned mixed gender belts. Yeah. Yeah. The one thing with this 330 00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:15.839 is we did see the breakup of Willow and Statlander, and that was like 331 00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:21.160 a headline, headliner tag team in the women's division that we assumed if they 332 00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:23.759 were going to make belts, That's kind of why they would be one of 333 00:29:23.799 --> 00:29:27.920 the teams competing. So it is interesting that that team's broken up before any 334 00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:32.839 of this happened. But yeah, I'm wondering your guys thoughts on having these 335 00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:38.039 new belts. Well, first of all, let's let's address the elephant in 336 00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:45.359 the room. Let's talk about the mixed gender belt. Does anybody want that's 337 00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:53.519 crazy? What's wrong with the mixed gender belts? Well, you can't fight 338 00:29:53.559 --> 00:30:07.160 in Oklahoma apparently because they don't women wait only if only if? Yeah, 339 00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:11.519 I guess you can't. Never mind, have they had any mixed ginger matches 340 00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:19.599 except for a couple in a W Wasn't there? They had one a few 341 00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:23.920 weeks ago. I think it was like Adam Copeland and Willow versus Yeah, 342 00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:33.160 and Buddy Matthews. Yeah, they've had a few coward one of them and 343 00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:41.880 uh or, but they've never had really a man fighting a woman like maybe 344 00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:48.400 they don't do that. Yeah. To me, it's so convoluted that you 345 00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:52.279 have to tag out in and owl if you're depending on who's in it, 346 00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:57.319 and that for me should be special matches. I don't want to see that 347 00:30:57.359 --> 00:31:00.799 all the time. I don't think the only belts. I want to see 348 00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:04.119 the women's tag team to make it a little more even, to get more 349 00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:07.720 exposure. I don't want to see mixed at all, you know what, 350 00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:11.559 I I don't want to see it. I was thinking about the women's tag 351 00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:19.240 belts and the way that they're making Tony Storm a a babyface again. Basically, 352 00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:29.559 could we see Thunderstorm get back together? Mm? So, I mean 353 00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:36.000 hopefully Julia's on her way back. Juliet Sky Blue, Uh, God only 354 00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:38.799 knows. I would love to see somebody like Statlander and Megan Baine together, 355 00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:45.720 you know will oh maybe with even somebody like Mercedes. That would be interesting. 356 00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:51.920 Yeah, I can see that, you know, Ryan Harley, Cameron 357 00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:56.000 Tate Mellow said that she was last week she said she was two months away 358 00:31:56.000 --> 00:32:00.440 from being cleared, so we could have Tate Mellow and and a j. 359 00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:07.400 The return of kJ Doctors has so many possibilities, you know, so, 360 00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:15.839 I mean you can't even discount Athena and Billy Starks. Yeah, and of 361 00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:21.480 course Britt Baker and Jamie Hayter if they ever show up again in aw you 362 00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:24.039 know. So there's all kinds of weird things that you can do, you 363 00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:29.720 know, so it could be interesting. But I'm all for the women's belt, 364 00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:32.359 the women's tag belts. I think that they were necessary a year ago 365 00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:40.400 or more because that's the way you get women in wrestling matches, not not 366 00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:44.640 in the mixed belts. That just does not make a lick of sense to 367 00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:49.079 me at all. But the worst tag belt would be something that I could 368 00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:55.240 get invested in. Ym HM, Like the mixed belts could be cool if 369 00:32:55.240 --> 00:33:01.000 they actually allowed for intergender competition and stuff like that, it could be a 370 00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:07.119 whole new network that Yeah. Yeah, Unfortunately, I don't think people really 371 00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:10.799 want to see that, to be honest with you, I've seen what happened 372 00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:21.559 at Lander versus men's opponents, and like they can have pretty entertaining competitive matches 373 00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:25.480 and you know, it's never really been done on TV. But yeah, 374 00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:32.480 but you know, I look at it and yeah, I'll bring up China 375 00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:39.000 who famously took on men, you know when during her run in w W 376 00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:45.559 E and then you know, rest in peace. But you know, the 377 00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:52.920 men that she wrestled simply just to a man, they've all said that she's 378 00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:59.000 just she was just god, yeah, you know, and it was Jo 379 00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:04.720 had an interview I saw. She said that he said that China was not 380 00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:08.400 that good and he had to carry the match and stuff. And I just 381 00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:15.079 think it's weird to watch and gender match. I know that that that I've 382 00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:19.800 seen some some YouTube video that people and I always just I can't watch. 383 00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:22.159 I don't want to watch that. That's not something that interests me. But 384 00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:28.280 some people do. And more power to him. But I've seen I've seen 385 00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:32.000 Chris Statlander and inter gender matches. I've seen Julia Hart inter gender matches, 386 00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:38.159 Billy Billy Starks. There's been several and it was all indies, and they 387 00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:44.159 were all meaningless. I mean, you know, yeah, but all indeed, 388 00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:47.039 you gotta have meaningful you gotta have meaningful matches. Of course, you 389 00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:52.519 know, Nila Rose and Serpentego just accidentally won the championship that they've never defended 390 00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:59.360 still to this day. I believe they think they wanted before Christmas. It's 391 00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:05.079 the defended championship. But anyway, Yeah, but to me, it's just 392 00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:09.679 not gonna work, you know, because, let's face it, not the 393 00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:20.400 men have to hold back because of wrestling, that's hold back because of what's 394 00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:24.480 considered taboo for the networks, et cetera, et cetera. You know what 395 00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:31.039 I mean, And it just won't work. No. If that's the case, 396 00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:36.079 if it's an advertising issue, then yeah, I mean, it's just 397 00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:38.000 not gonna work. I mean, look at when Britt Baker went to the 398 00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:43.880 aid of Adam Cole that you got the heck beat out of her. You 399 00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:49.519 know, people lost their ever loving minds on the Why would you subject yourself 400 00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:53.239 to that again? Because people will lose their minds on the internet for anything, 401 00:35:55.599 --> 00:36:01.320 you know. Yeah. Yeah, so that's gonna be interesting. I 402 00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:06.880 just hope that when they do announce, if Tony Kan does announce Women's tag 403 00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:10.639 team belt, that they wait until they get their roster back because there's a 404 00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:15.960 lot of injuries, there's a lot of people out speaking of which, and 405 00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:21.280 This is something that we have talked about before. I wanted to touch on 406 00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:27.840 the sad state of the men's tag team division because who are the tag team 407 00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:34.880 champions right now? I don't even know who cares? Did they Did they 408 00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:39.400 defend the championships at double or nothing? No, I don't know when exactly, 409 00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:46.079 haven't yet they haven't, that makes sense. I mean, you've got 410 00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:51.920 some pretty good I'm a big fan of top Flight, you know, I 411 00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:57.519 you know, may have been a thing, but now that's been put on 412 00:36:57.559 --> 00:37:01.960 the House of Black at the Kings of the Black Throne. Those guys are 413 00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:08.599 good. Yeah, other than you have tr but it's the same people doing 414 00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:13.320 the same thing over and over again. You only have five people that are 415 00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:17.639 five tag teams that are just interchanging. Yeah. Well because yeah, unfortunately 416 00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:23.960 Acclaimed and Bullet Club Gold or Bang Bang Gang now they're both kind of mixed 417 00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:29.079 up in the Trios division, same with like Gates of Agony, which is 418 00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:34.679 now Cage of Agony. Unfortunately, that dilutes it because I think if you 419 00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:40.880 didn't have that, you'd have like ten great tag teams. Yeah, We've 420 00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:45.840 said it before on this podcast that many of us feel like the Trios Division 421 00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:54.639 is knocking back the tag team division, and I still it blows my mind 422 00:37:54.679 --> 00:38:00.000 because I don't know what the fascination with the trios division is when tag team 423 00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:06.320 divisions have been around since I've been watching wrestling, and they're important and the 424 00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:13.119 trio's divisions just not. I'm sorry. The novel's a novelty belt, Yeah, 425 00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:16.079 because it's so freaking crazy, everybody running around. You can't tell who's 426 00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:20.440 in, who's in, who's in the match, and who's not and it 427 00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:25.400 and for me, it lacks suspense because tag teams you're always looking for that 428 00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:30.679 hot tag and and you really don't have that hot tag and that fun of 429 00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:35.800 the suspense of someone else, the guy who really really really wants in. 430 00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:38.199 You know, you don't have that because they all seem to be flying everywhere 431 00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:42.920 and it's just too busy. It's too much of a cluster for me. 432 00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:50.719 That's why I don't like him. Yeah, I mean, what's if you're 433 00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:55.840 gonna do the tag teams go all in on the tag teams? Don't don't 434 00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:01.599 they aw can't do what they've been doing. Tag teams are just have lost. 435 00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:06.239 The tag team belts have no relevance, and we've got a couple of 436 00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:12.119 the greatest tag team tag teams in wrestling right now, arguably the Young Bucks 437 00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:19.800 and FTR, and they're spitting their wheels. Yeah, they're way too much. 438 00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:23.280 They had a chance at the Tag Team Tournament to put some new people 439 00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:29.000 in, but they chose to go with the Young Bucks and start this this 440 00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:34.400 this elite storyline, which oh the bad but yeah you had you know, 441 00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:37.639 at the time, a private Party was hitting it pretty hard and I thought 442 00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:42.639 they could have been There are several other tag teams that could have done it, 443 00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:46.159 but they are they once again stick with the tried and true. I 444 00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:49.320 don't know if they have it a contract or not. It seems like every 445 00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:53.239 year or so, every six months or so, the Young Bucks have it, 446 00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:58.519 and it's it's to a point where they have to start making new, 447 00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:01.800 fresh tag teams that can be the guys, and I don't see them doing 448 00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:08.519 that. But I think the problem is that they started with the triple teams, 449 00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:14.039 the six men tags because it allowed them to get more people into the 450 00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:19.639 show, and it got to the point where that was what they were doing 451 00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:23.400 for the most part. But I believe they need to now that they have 452 00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:29.280 it in a solidified three triple to three man tag. They need to move 453 00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:34.440 that belt to r OH. Be done with it. Don't bring it back 454 00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:37.480 to W to the aw main bring it, keep it on H where it 455 00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:43.239 can be useful. Get back to the tag teams. The Bucks got them 456 00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:46.119 basically like you said, MK, it's to start the whole thing with the 457 00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:51.000 EVP, which they needed to do. That was that was how they were 458 00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:57.960 going to start it, and they'll have them until it stops, probably the 459 00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:00.960 end of the year, whenever they come to the conclude to that, if 460 00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:05.400 you know, however long they want this to last. But until they take 461 00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:10.519 away the the the tag that the trios team belts and put them on ROH 462 00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:15.480 and get them completely off AWTV, it's always going to be a crutch that 463 00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:19.280 they fall back on because it allows you to have an extra two guys on 464 00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:23.039 the show, and unfortunately, with the size of the roster right now, 465 00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:30.119 sometimes that's what they have to do to get everybody in. Very true. 466 00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:36.360 Yeah, I just think it's unfortunate because their tag team division Ist has so 467 00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:39.239 much potential, Like in the Lucha Bros. We didn't even mention them right 468 00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:44.760 well, you forget about that because they're there's no tag teams. Well, 469 00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:49.039 you have probably about I'm just going to top off the top of my head, 470 00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:52.559 you probably have about fifteen solid tag teams in age as boys. Yeah, 471 00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:58.800 yeah, I mean you have fifteen, at least fifteen seriously very good 472 00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:04.679 tag teams. It could be bad only for it again, you just don't 473 00:42:04.679 --> 00:42:07.599 have time. Sometimes you've got you know, the ones you've all mentioned. 474 00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:13.199 You've got the I don't remember what they called himself now because you're Bear Brouns 475 00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:22.440 and his brother Iron Savages, you got the Infantry, You've got uh right, 476 00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:30.320 righteous, I mean, it's yeah, emotions. I mean there's there, 477 00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:34.559 there's five right there we just mentioned besides the other six or seven you 478 00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:38.039 mentioned before that. Yeah, I mean, but they're not taking the time 479 00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:43.800 to do it seriously. Yeah, and to be honest, to be honest, 480 00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:46.039 the Triple the Triple team should not have taken a place of that because 481 00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:51.800 it's it's not something that you can't do at the same time, you know 482 00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:54.199 what I mean, it's not. But you you wrap up all your best 483 00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:59.679 teams like the ass Boys, the Acclaim, they just get wrapped up in 484 00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:05.239 this right nonsense, and it's fun. But yeah, I mean, keep 485 00:43:05.239 --> 00:43:07.559 it on a ring of honor and and make it like a ring of honor 486 00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:12.960 staple. But yeah, it's it's unfortunate. I mean, you've got you've 487 00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:15.239 got, you've got all these tag teams that we just mentioned, but there's 488 00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:24.320 only like four main ones on the rest due to job mm hmm. Well, 489 00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:30.519 Alex, you know you wanted to talk about, uh the best and 490 00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:34.840 worst of Yeah, I wanted to. I wanted to bring up something that 491 00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:39.639 I think is maybe controversial and probably get some discussion going. But I was 492 00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:45.039 thinking long and hard about what I thought was the best match from from Double 493 00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:52.280 or Nothing. I think it was a good show. It was like an 494 00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:57.920 eight out of ten. Everything was pretty good. But but we didn't really 495 00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:01.679 get anything like at Dynasty, the will Osprey Brian Danielson. We didn't get 496 00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:07.079 a match to me that that was like head over heels, like just blew 497 00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:15.159 me away. But for me, I think maybe my highlight of Double or 498 00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:22.360 Nothing was the Mercedes Monet versus Willow Nightingale match. I was really hoping that 499 00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:29.559 we'd get a match where we could where it felt like the women we're putting 500 00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:31.960 on a match like the same quality as the men at a pay per view 501 00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:40.000 like it just felt like a high level match, like super intense, just 502 00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:45.480 everything I was kind of hoping to see from that match and hoping to see 503 00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:50.559 from Mercedes. I know she looked a little rusty, especially at the end 504 00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:55.480 when she was doing her finisher to someone that was probably a little bit too 505 00:44:55.559 --> 00:45:00.960 much weight for her to get up properly for that. Maybe she needs to 506 00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:04.920 have a second finish here like will Osprey does with the Hidden Blade. But 507 00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:08.360 I thought Mercedes Monet looked really good, and I thought this was probably one 508 00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:14.880 of the best women's matches I can remember seeing in quite some time on AW 509 00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:19.559 Well, what about do you want to share your worst moment then too? 510 00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:28.119 Uh? The worst moment for me was probably I just felt a little bit 511 00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:32.880 disappointed, not really by the anarchy in the arena match, but I just 512 00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:40.800 was really hoping we had something to end on like a high note, and 513 00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:45.440 by that I mean like a return of Hangman Adam Page or just something to 514 00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:51.480 like further that story of the Elite and bring us some excitement on what to 515 00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:53.840 expect for Dynamite, And we didn't get it. It felt like it kind 516 00:45:53.880 --> 00:46:00.320 of ended on a lackluster moment, especially when we had like MGF return earlier 517 00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:05.800 in the night, it felt like the highs were early and then it kind 518 00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:09.880 of trailed off for me. So that was my low point. Yeah, 519 00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:14.400 who wants to go next with their best and worse than the night at double 520 00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:17.119 or nothing. I didn't really have the best of the night. When it 521 00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:21.760 came to the matches, it just was, like you said, I like 522 00:46:21.800 --> 00:46:23.000 said, I wouldn't even go with an eight out of set of seven and 523 00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:29.840 a half because there really wasn't. You know, they build this as being 524 00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:35.519 the WrestleMania for for a w It's the main first show that got them started. 525 00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:39.400 It was five year anniversary, and it just didn't feel like that was 526 00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:45.760 what it was. Everything just sort of it built, built, built, 527 00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:50.480 built, built, and just kind of slid down. But I kind of 528 00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:52.719 disagree with the Willow the Willow matches. I think Willow had a great match. 529 00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:57.679 I just was really disappointed in what mer well, I'm not going to 530 00:46:57.719 --> 00:47:01.679 say disappointed in Mercedes because it's basically what I expected from her. She wasn't 531 00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:06.920 that impressive to me. She was extremely slow off the ropes. Damn near 532 00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:09.239 killed Willow with the fine with her with her finish, I mean that was 533 00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:16.519 bad could have been bad. Yeah. If if I was gonna have to 534 00:47:16.599 --> 00:47:20.559 pick one match that I thought was the best match of the night, it 535 00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:25.199 was the will Osprey match. But even that match was almost too long for 536 00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:30.199 me. Yeah, and it wasn't as good as his other matches. No, 537 00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:35.920 and and and you know I don't. I mean, they almost killed 538 00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:39.079 him in that match. And you know, we we had talked about how 539 00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:45.960 there's no interference in matches the night before, you know, the lad on 540 00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:49.920 Thursday, we talked about how that happened in last week, and it seemed 541 00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:52.800 like every match this week had something, whether it was building the match or 542 00:47:52.840 --> 00:48:00.760 not. So I was, I was, wasn't even you, You're the 543 00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:05.079 problem is you were right up to that point. But last then it seemed 544 00:48:05.079 --> 00:48:07.599 like on Sunday they heard our podcast and way, you know what, we 545 00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:10.440 don't. Let's see what we can do to change that. So those idiots 546 00:48:10.519 --> 00:48:15.679 wrong. Yeah, I think I think for me, Dynasty was a much 547 00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:19.960 better pay per view than this. But MJF, if you would have put 548 00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:24.119 him at the end or before, if they'd have had that match arrange so 549 00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:27.679 that he could have came out right before that, it would have made the 550 00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:30.159 show worth watching all the way to the end, but I just I don't 551 00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:36.000 know, it just wasn't It just didn't do it for me. Who wants 552 00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:43.480 to go next? I'll say, Uh, my favorite match had to be 553 00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:52.880 Copeland and Malachi Black. I like those kinds of matches where they really get 554 00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:58.119 into it and really fight. I think it's unfortunate that Copeland got hurt, 555 00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:02.599 but it leaves me to wonder what they're going to do in the House of 556 00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:13.360 Black. And I had two least favorite things. I hate that Willow lost, 557 00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:22.920 and I did not like the way anarchy in the arena was because they 558 00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:28.960 turned the music off and there was so much going on that you couldn't see 559 00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:34.920 everything that was going on. And I think there was probably a lot of 560 00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:38.639 good wrestling, a lot of good fighting, and we missed quite a bit 561 00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:49.280 of it. And I'm getting tired of Darby Allen being a stunt dummy, 562 00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:52.079 like one of those you know, you know, they're fake in the movies 563 00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:57.360 and they're just thrown all around. That's what he's starting to remind me of. 564 00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:04.519 And it's getting a little old. So that's how I yeah that I 565 00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:09.360 made a comment about Darby Allen. What somebody posted on the aw Found subreddit, 566 00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:12.719 what the hell are they going to do with Darby Allen? I said, 567 00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:15.480 we should probably get run over by the aggnlance that they're taking him to 568 00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:20.119 the hospital in. Probably he'll fall out of the back and go rolling down 569 00:50:20.119 --> 00:50:30.840 the expressway on the gurney. It is good to be a little bit like 570 00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:35.840 watching a stuntman instead of a wrestler anymore. Yeah, yeah, so I 571 00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:40.320 like him as a wrestler. I like what he does, but it's time 572 00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:45.760 to do something a little bit different. So I think he find needs to 573 00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:54.880 find something else to do, or someone really good much like himself, that 574 00:50:55.000 --> 00:51:00.280 he can really have a long going feud with where they kind of try to 575 00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:06.840 outdo each other. Right, Yeah, it did seem like maybe he was 576 00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:13.559 wrestling injured well, just like in a weird way. Even though he got 577 00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:15.639 hit by a bus and he was hung by his feet and all that, 578 00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:23.039 it did seem like he was not wrestling wrestling. Yeah right, Yeah. 579 00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:29.920 The blow towards was pretty funny though. He really he kept going. He 580 00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:34.320 didn't just like light Jack Terry on fire. He kept like trying to keep 581 00:51:34.400 --> 00:51:39.800 light. I know, I thought that was hysterical. I feel like the 582 00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:45.239 young Bucks, like, what are you doing? The young books look like 583 00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:53.519 they couldn't believe what was happening, So who hasn't got yet with their best 584 00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:58.920 and worst? Besides me, I didn't watch it, so I think you 585 00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:08.920 okay, well my best and worst? My best was I had to give 586 00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:14.639 a shout out to the women here. Did I think that the Willow knight 587 00:52:14.719 --> 00:52:20.440 Gale versus Mercedes Monette was a great match? It was good, it was 588 00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:25.440 not great. However, I stand by what I said earlier in the month 589 00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:31.159 that had Julia Hart not got injured not gotten injured, it would have been 590 00:52:31.559 --> 00:52:36.239 Julia Hart versus Mercedes Money and its match. I do not I still don't 591 00:52:36.239 --> 00:52:42.880 believe that Willow Nightingale was ever intended to be the champion. Yet, going 592 00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:46.480 into this match, do you think do you think Julia Heart could have had 593 00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:52.880 the match that Willow and Mercedes had. I absolutely think that Julia Heart would 594 00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:58.440 have made Mercedes look better because basically, and I don't want to get into 595 00:52:58.480 --> 00:53:02.920 this, but Mercedes is a very slight woman and Julia Hart is much bigger 596 00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:08.079 than than Mercedes Monet. But Willow Nightingale is much bigger than Julia Hart, 597 00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:13.199 and that is not a slight against Willow Nightingale because she's a beautiful woman. 598 00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:17.039 But the thing that I'm saying is that having a first match in a year 599 00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:23.760 against somebody that is so much bigger than you, you can't get leverage, 600 00:53:24.280 --> 00:53:28.239 you know. I just think that the I think the match was intended to 601 00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:31.480 be Julia Hart versus Mercedes Monet because I think that they would have been able 602 00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:36.159 to work better. And I do think there would have been a better match 603 00:53:36.599 --> 00:53:42.719 because I think Mercedes would have looked better and I think Julia would have had 604 00:53:42.920 --> 00:53:47.519 more of the uh, she would have been able to take better bumps. 605 00:53:50.440 --> 00:53:54.360 I'll just say it that way. Now, what I was saying, the 606 00:53:54.400 --> 00:54:00.559 women you go to Tony storm and Serena deeb I thought that that was the 607 00:54:00.599 --> 00:54:06.679 best that Tony Stormers looked to me in months, to be honest with you. 608 00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:09.760 Uh, Serena Dee was having the time of her life out there. 609 00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:14.960 She was smiling throughout the entire match, I mean, and I just loved 610 00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:19.079 it for it and she got to be on the big stage for once, 611 00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:23.079 you know, because she deserves it. And frankly speaking, thunder Rosa and 612 00:54:23.159 --> 00:54:29.360 Dianna Parozzo, which was in the buy in. I did both of those 613 00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:36.159 matches for me. I thought that was fantastic match, you know, and 614 00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:38.719 I think that that deserved to be on the main show. I really do. 615 00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:43.519 As far as the worst match in the night for me, and I 616 00:54:43.559 --> 00:54:49.480 would call it the worst match, but the worst, uh most senseless match, 617 00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:52.760 and that's probably the best thing. Roder Eck Strong versus Well Lostrey by 618 00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:58.440 a mile. That match should have lasted the ring. The bell should have 619 00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:05.000 rang. Will Ospbury should have just slapped Roderick Strong across the base. Roderick 620 00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:09.599 should have felt to the ground one two three when that stupid spot happened where 621 00:55:10.360 --> 00:55:15.800 frankly, I thought will Ospbury got murdered. I was pissed off, you 622 00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:20.480 know, and that ruined the entire I didn't want that match to go on. 623 00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:24.960 That match lasted forever, you know, and it shouldn't have. And 624 00:55:25.480 --> 00:55:29.960 it was just awful. It was just awful to see. I mean, 625 00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:32.320 you knew that will Ospbury was going to win the match, you know, 626 00:55:32.639 --> 00:55:37.000 but it was just one of those things. In my opinion, it didn't 627 00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:45.440 matter. Roderick Strong had the match of his career and will Osprey had the 628 00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:52.280 match of his career and together they had the match. Upon matches, I 629 00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:55.079 still would have been upset at that match because there was no reason to have 630 00:55:55.239 --> 00:56:00.800 it other than to put the belt on will Osprey. It should taken fifteen 631 00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:05.639 seconds, put the belt on him and go on. Frankly, the thing 632 00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:10.760 lasted so long. I stood to talk, stood to listen to Adam Cole 633 00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:16.280 and MGF talk a little bit. Give them ten minutes each because I just 634 00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:20.920 did not want to see that match. I'm sorry, stupid batch, but 635 00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:23.559 they booked it. It was a stupid batch. They should have just handed 636 00:56:23.559 --> 00:56:27.119 them the belt and said, I don't want to fight you. You're too 637 00:56:27.159 --> 00:56:32.360 good. Left. That's the way it felt. So let's move on to 638 00:56:32.719 --> 00:56:38.800 our Dynamite preview. We've already talked about the Forbidden Door to See Gauntlet, 639 00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:45.960 but let's talk about a couple of things that I think it's pretty interesting. 640 00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:47.519 Well, first of all, we were just talking about Willow Knight and Galen 641 00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:55.360 Mercedes Monet. After the match, Chris Statlander finally did the turn with Stokely 642 00:56:55.440 --> 00:57:00.480 Hathaway. So now Chris Statlander has now been added to the heel part of 643 00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:08.800 the women's roster that is just growing and growing and growing. So tomorrow night, 644 00:57:09.679 --> 00:57:15.039 apparently they're going to do a segment where they ask Chris Statlander, why, 645 00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:22.719 Chris why? What do you think the reason why is going to be 646 00:57:24.159 --> 00:57:30.840 for the Rock? I just, you know, I think that she's tired 647 00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:37.280 of living in her shadow. She's tired of not getting chances that she should. 648 00:57:37.400 --> 00:57:40.440 She should be women's champ h in that race, at least in that 649 00:57:42.840 --> 00:57:47.639 racket. And I think she's tired of getting disrespected, and it's time for 650 00:57:47.679 --> 00:57:52.079 her to make a move move. And plus, you know, this makes 651 00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:55.880 two the best friends who are now hells. So it makes sense to me 652 00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:02.199 degree she First of all, she doesn't need it. She doesn't need a 653 00:58:02.239 --> 00:58:07.840 manager or a mouthpiece, So her whole teaming whistorically makes no sense whatsoever. 654 00:58:09.519 --> 00:58:14.880 Again, there are way too many heels. She's one of your top women 655 00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:19.400 in division, and she didn't need to turn heel. I just doesn't make 656 00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:22.199 any sense. If she wants to blame someone for her being where she's at 657 00:58:22.239 --> 00:58:27.039 and not being somewhere else, it's her own problem self, because she's the 658 00:58:27.079 --> 00:58:31.159 one that's been friends with these people and puts everybody else before them before herself. 659 00:58:31.199 --> 00:58:35.519 That's on her. So I just don't see a reason why you do 660 00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:44.679 that to heels take accountability for their own actions. But that's the problem. 661 00:58:44.719 --> 00:58:49.000 She's not a heel or she wasn't. Yeah, like we hit that moment 662 00:58:49.199 --> 00:58:54.639 with she confronted Trent right after Trent turned and then he whispered something to her. 663 00:58:55.239 --> 00:59:02.159 I'm thinking that he whispered like Willows overshadowing you, exactly like Orange Cassidy's 664 00:59:02.199 --> 00:59:08.480 overshadowing me. And that's gonna kind of be the reasoning for this. And 665 00:59:08.559 --> 00:59:15.400 I feel like Stokely has been planning this all along. I think it does 666 00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:21.639 make sense to me, Like I think Willow is a much better speaker promo 667 00:59:21.800 --> 00:59:28.000 than Statlander is. She's come some ways, but I don't mind having Stokely 668 00:59:28.039 --> 00:59:31.159 as someone for her to feed off of and represent her. And he's really 669 00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:37.280 funny, So I think it makes sense. And I think it could be 670 00:59:37.320 --> 00:59:42.280 really good for Chris Statlander and put her in like the the main events women's 671 00:59:42.360 --> 00:59:49.960 scene a little bit more. But yeah, we'll see what happens. What 672 00:59:50.039 --> 00:59:55.599 about you, Dutt, do you have any pinions on this? Well? 673 00:59:57.679 --> 01:00:07.960 Here is a thought with Ton talking about intergender belts. Suppose it's Statlander and 674 01:00:07.079 --> 01:00:15.639 Trent being very bad, and they're going to make a tag team where they're 675 01:00:15.679 --> 01:00:21.519 going to harass everyone else. So they do it separately, so they're going 676 01:00:21.599 --> 01:00:28.599 to do it together. And that's what I thought about when Tony was talking 677 01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:35.000 about those belts, was that whispering in her ear, and you know, 678 01:00:35.719 --> 01:00:42.559 both of them kind of turning against everyone that they've cared about better than them 679 01:00:42.840 --> 01:00:50.320 for intergender tag teams. So that's my feeling about it. Only feeling about 680 01:00:50.320 --> 01:00:54.119 it I don't understand. So Alex, I've been introduced the next segment. 681 01:00:54.159 --> 01:00:58.000 I'll let you take the last two if that's okay with you, Yes, 682 01:00:58.400 --> 01:01:04.239 because I want to talk about That's favorite painting, the don Callis supper painting 683 01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:08.599 and Tomorrow Night, Don Kallas has announced that he's going to offer someone a 684 01:01:08.679 --> 01:01:19.679 contract, du duh exactly. So here is my thoughts on that that's someone's 685 01:01:19.719 --> 01:01:23.000 gonna be Trumperetta, not Orange Cassidy. There's gonna be a big portrayal, 686 01:01:23.480 --> 01:01:32.039 and I think Tomorrow Night you're going to see Trumperetta and Chris Statlander, who 687 01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:42.000 will betray Stokely Hathoray joined the don Kallis family. Maybe not Tomorrow Night with 688 01:01:42.199 --> 01:01:45.760 Chris Statlander. But I think eventually, really soon, like by Forbidden Door, 689 01:01:46.239 --> 01:01:51.039 we're going to see Chris Statlander and the Callous family just want to get 690 01:01:51.079 --> 01:01:55.440 everybody. What do you think about that? I mean, do you think 691 01:01:55.480 --> 01:02:00.159 that is there? Is the contract going to be offered to Orange Cassidy? 692 01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:05.000 Why would Don Callous say he's offering the contract to someone and not I'm more 693 01:02:05.119 --> 01:02:08.519 offering a contract to Orange Cassidy if he was or if he was off forget 694 01:02:08.559 --> 01:02:19.599 the Worts cast. Yeah, yeah, go ahead, sudden because Don Kellis 695 01:02:19.679 --> 01:02:23.760 isn't an idiot and wants to mess with everybody. Uh, he knows what. 696 01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:29.880 He knows how to keep the he knows how to keep it something to 697 01:02:29.920 --> 01:02:35.159 talk about and yeah, and that's what he's doing. He made it seem 698 01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:38.000 like he's going to back Orange. I totally agree that he's gonna take Trent. 699 01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:45.079 I don't know, it's it's gonna be interesting. Is there going to 700 01:02:45.159 --> 01:02:52.199 be a beatdown of Orange Cassidy? Probably? But is it going to just 701 01:02:52.320 --> 01:02:57.719 be the addition of people tomorrow night or is it going to be the new 702 01:02:57.800 --> 01:03:04.519 look Callus family. Do you think we may get somebody subtracted tomorrow night. 703 01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:12.639 I'm thinking that I'm thinking that the United Empire finally gets away and leaves Callous 704 01:03:12.719 --> 01:03:17.159 tomorrow night. Maybe maybe it's time for him to do it. Anyway, 705 01:03:17.519 --> 01:03:23.199 I think Forbidden Doors the perfect time because then you have New Japan guys coming 706 01:03:23.239 --> 01:03:29.239 in. They can support will Osprey, possibly Kyle Fletcher and set up a 707 01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:37.320 match versus the don Kallis family. Isn't there more of the he's in a 708 01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:43.280 certain group, and then the group that Sabers in and some others are in 709 01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:54.760 that are kind of with uh in tmd K. That's also a European group, 710 01:03:54.960 --> 01:04:00.239 but it's completely different than United Empire. Yeah, that's all. See 711 01:04:00.280 --> 01:04:03.239 Open and Ospray are the only three that are in that I believe. But 712 01:04:03.559 --> 01:04:11.320 in New Japan, there's Jeff Cobb, there's TJ. Perkins, there's Caleb 713 01:04:11.400 --> 01:04:15.960 Newman and Francesco Akira, and there may be even some other guys. Oh 714 01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:19.360 great, o'con. Yeah, there's a whole bunch of guys that could come 715 01:04:19.400 --> 01:04:24.880 over. Could you imagine getting all those guys and actually using that faction, 716 01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:27.480 because see, that's one of the things I brought up before a while ago. 717 01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:33.519 He has Tony has an issue with keeping factions that are not just in 718 01:04:33.639 --> 01:04:42.800 aew together. He doesn't always like use them to the full potential that they 719 01:04:42.840 --> 01:04:49.920 have. Mm hmm. I mean he did it with the with actually the 720 01:04:49.920 --> 01:04:55.800 best friends, and those guys are all part of Okada's Actually they are part 721 01:04:55.840 --> 01:05:01.400 of Akarda's faction that they had in New Japan. Yeah, yeah, so 722 01:05:01.440 --> 01:05:05.679 they were all part of Chaos. And they actually talked about being part of 723 01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:14.360 Chaos when there was sometime last year around Forbidden Door, but that's the only 724 01:05:14.440 --> 01:05:16.639 time they ever really mentioned it. When they had god I can't think of 725 01:05:16.719 --> 01:05:21.760 his name, Bulldog, what's his name? Yeah, when is she came 726 01:05:21.800 --> 01:05:26.679 over and teamed up with them, they talked about Chaos, but it was 727 01:05:26.719 --> 01:05:29.440 like for one match and that was it, and you don't really mention it 728 01:05:29.480 --> 01:05:34.039 after that. So maybe there will be a yeah that's when Cassidy and Trent 729 01:05:34.159 --> 01:05:40.679 became honorary members or something like that. Yeah, of chaos. I'm just 730 01:05:40.960 --> 01:05:45.239 speaking of Orange cast I don't. I just hate to see I don't. 731 01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:50.440 I feel like Cassidy is in the most need of a refresh out of anybody 732 01:05:50.440 --> 01:05:55.559 in that group, and I think him being with Callous Callous would help him 733 01:05:55.599 --> 01:05:59.719 immensely, because you know, he's at a point where he's been baby based, 734 01:05:59.760 --> 01:06:05.599 so that, you know, just another betrayal would be great. It's 735 01:06:05.639 --> 01:06:10.599 kind of like when Steing got betrayed all the times and stuff. He would 736 01:06:10.639 --> 01:06:15.679 always bounce back, but at some point you need to change the Cassidy gimmick. 737 01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:19.000 I just, in my opinion, I think don Kallas can work a 738 01:06:19.039 --> 01:06:24.360 lot better off of him and make him not necessarily heal, but give him 739 01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:32.800 a darker age. Yeah. I think it's interesting. I would like to 740 01:06:32.840 --> 01:06:39.440 see Orange Cassidy be a heel, but I just don't see them actually doing 741 01:06:39.480 --> 01:06:44.559 it. I'm imagining, you know, Orange Cassidy. Maybe he's offered the 742 01:06:44.599 --> 01:06:47.880 contract, he turns it down, he gets beat down, and it leads 743 01:06:47.920 --> 01:06:53.679 to some other development with the Don Kyle's family, whether it's Trench joining or 744 01:06:54.159 --> 01:07:00.639 will Osprey stopping the other members from beating up Orange Cassidy. Uh. But 745 01:07:00.760 --> 01:07:04.199 yeah, I just it'd be cool, But I just cannot picture him actually 746 01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:16.239 being in the don Kallis family. M Alex, Yeah, I guess. 747 01:07:16.320 --> 01:07:20.320 So if no one has anything else to say about the painting and the don 748 01:07:20.400 --> 01:07:27.119 Kallis family and what what tomorrow will hold, I guess we can move on, 749 01:07:27.320 --> 01:07:31.599 to the debut of TV Time. I don't even know what that means 750 01:07:31.639 --> 01:07:35.159 with the Learning Tree Chris Jericho. I think it means when he comes on, 751 01:07:35.239 --> 01:07:41.559 you're supposed to change a channel and see what's on TV. No no, 752 01:07:41.559 --> 01:07:45.000 no, no, no, no no. This has been long overdue. 753 01:07:45.519 --> 01:07:50.519 Jericho always has a television talk show wherever he has been, and it's 754 01:07:50.559 --> 01:08:02.440 about time, it's TV Time. He's like a skinna. He'll do something 755 01:08:02.440 --> 01:08:05.320 like he used to do with the he he'd have. He'll come out and 756 01:08:05.320 --> 01:08:10.280 he'll come out and he may have, uh some chairs in the ring or 757 01:08:10.280 --> 01:08:12.840 whatever, and I don't I don't. You know it's gonna be something different, 758 01:08:12.840 --> 01:08:18.159 because they're always different. Yeah, it's gonna be It's gonna be interesting. 759 01:08:18.239 --> 01:08:25.439 It'll be a little five minute talk session that ends up with him possibly 760 01:08:25.520 --> 01:08:30.319 putting someone's head through something or getting power bombed or whatever. But it'll be 761 01:08:30.359 --> 01:08:36.600 fun to the head. Uh uh yeah. I would love that. He's 762 01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:43.640 always done good good talk talk segments. You know. I just love this 763 01:08:43.720 --> 01:08:50.439 gimmick. I think people are slowly starting to see it finally been berating him 764 01:08:50.439 --> 01:08:54.119 forever. I know some people in this group still bit and get it, 765 01:08:54.760 --> 01:09:00.479 but uh yeah, I just enjoyed Jericho right now. He's he's eating it 766 01:09:00.560 --> 01:09:09.680 up and leaning on a hard Yeah, it's delightful. I wonder if he's 767 01:09:09.680 --> 01:09:15.720 gonna use this time to to do lessons or something, you know, Is 768 01:09:15.760 --> 01:09:19.079 he gonna bring out different guys and try to teach them, because now he's 769 01:09:19.119 --> 01:09:26.239 with Brian Keith as well as the big Big Bill. Does he come out 770 01:09:26.279 --> 01:09:30.840 and try to teach them about how to win matches? Their little tips and 771 01:09:30.880 --> 01:09:40.319 tricks, I don't know, be interesting the pomps and uh he gets them 772 01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:44.399 all to like sit around him like it's like a kindergarten class. Yeah. 773 01:09:44.439 --> 01:09:48.399 I mean up until he started doing this uhree thing, I was totally into 774 01:09:49.359 --> 01:09:56.880 the Chris jerk oh Marmie character. As soon as he started with the Larning 775 01:09:56.920 --> 01:10:00.960 three totally, I totally lost interest in it. And and this is literally 776 01:10:01.079 --> 01:10:05.359 going to be the time where I will probably switch over and see what's going 777 01:10:05.399 --> 01:10:12.680 on in hockey. So yeah, this is not going to be a ratings 778 01:10:12.760 --> 01:10:18.159 winner for me on my part. Well, hopefully you're not a Nielsen family 779 01:10:18.239 --> 01:10:24.000 and your own impact anything you I am. That is why I always turn 780 01:10:24.119 --> 01:10:30.000 off Eddie Kingston because I don't want to go back ass ready. I don't 781 01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:33.079 know if you're led the publicly disclosed that you are. You can't, Yes, 782 01:10:33.840 --> 01:10:38.000 you can't, Okay, I am in my household is a niece Nielsen 783 01:10:38.119 --> 01:10:44.520 household, and we turn the channel when something's on that we don't want to 784 01:10:44.560 --> 01:10:47.680 so, hey, you know, thank god, I'm not in the eighteen 785 01:10:47.720 --> 01:10:51.880 to forty nine demographic. The key demographic is not me. You have the 786 01:10:53.039 --> 01:11:06.239 power. I'm twelve zero. I guess we have. We have one last 787 01:11:06.439 --> 01:11:13.880 match to talk about. It's w'erv Strickland versus the Dragon, and by Dragon 788 01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:17.560 I mean Bill Switch formerly Lucasaurus in a House of the Dragon match. I 789 01:11:17.600 --> 01:11:21.439 don't know if this is a championship eliminator match, a title match. I 790 01:11:21.720 --> 01:11:31.079 am assuming just nothing match. It's a grudge match, okay, uh yeah. 791 01:11:31.119 --> 01:11:35.399 It's a little interesting because does this mean that we're continuing some form of 792 01:11:35.760 --> 01:11:41.840 swerve versus the patriarchy, maybe just to tide things over until forbidden door. 793 01:11:43.720 --> 01:11:49.119 I wonder which punish meant from the elite the e VPS for winning and beating 794 01:11:49.159 --> 01:11:58.840 them, but they're gonna yet again send uh another guy after just this show. 795 01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:01.600 But when you get involved in the matches, you know, I think 796 01:12:01.640 --> 01:12:06.720 this is more of a retribution for for Swore to go after people who are 797 01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:14.000 within the patriarchy because he's he's fought everybody except Mama Wayane so far, so 798 01:12:14.840 --> 01:12:24.600 might as well. I would like to see that match sort versus Mama Wayne, 799 01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:29.520 if we're talking inter gender matches. He's pretty big. He's probably got 800 01:12:29.560 --> 01:12:33.840 a few inches on s. Yeah, I think this should be an interesting 801 01:12:33.960 --> 01:12:38.000 match. Don't get me wrong. I mean, I mean, I'm not 802 01:12:38.119 --> 01:12:42.840 looking for I can't call him kill Switch. I'm not looking for Lucasaurus to 803 01:12:43.840 --> 01:12:49.479 win this match, but it should be a fairly entertaining match, especially if 804 01:12:49.520 --> 01:12:58.399 they have Christian and Nick Wayne and Mama Wayne and stairs and all kinds of 805 01:12:58.439 --> 01:13:05.479 stuff out there. Low blow glore. Yeah, you know, hockey sticks 806 01:13:08.119 --> 01:13:15.079 get hit by a Kia, spiky shoes up dragon the forums. So you 807 01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:20.359 gotta gotta do some advertising. So just have where we get run over by 808 01:13:20.359 --> 01:13:27.319 a Kia just before it hits where Darby Allen will dive in front of the 809 01:13:27.359 --> 01:13:32.880 car so he gets hit first. Have a zamboni in there too, run 810 01:13:33.359 --> 01:13:39.359 into the sand and get hit. That's what Samyabar is known for, getting 811 01:13:39.439 --> 01:13:47.720 hit by vehicles. Oh yeah. Yeah. Jeez, well, does anybody 812 01:13:47.840 --> 01:13:56.079 have like kill switch in this match when he's in the match, But is 813 01:13:56.119 --> 01:13:58.920 he gonna win it? I don't know, maybe we can call it Brene 814 01:13:59.359 --> 01:14:08.359 ask him, Yeah, kill Switch is gonna win because he has to win 815 01:14:08.479 --> 01:14:13.000 because it's his time and it's not for the title, So give him a 816 01:14:13.079 --> 01:14:28.119 chance. Oh God, kilosaurs kill Asaurus or to switch to switch? Okay, 817 01:14:29.399 --> 01:14:34.399 just a good weird The one question that we did not bring up that 818 01:14:34.640 --> 01:14:39.960 they kind of left in the air after the show on Sunday was where did 819 01:14:39.960 --> 01:14:45.319 the EVPs go from here? Oh that's a good question. I mean they 820 01:14:45.399 --> 01:14:49.439 didn't. They won, They did what they wanted to do, but then 821 01:14:49.479 --> 01:14:57.399 they just kind of left it with no clear path ahead. Yeah. It's 822 01:14:57.520 --> 01:15:02.199 interesting because, like, really the one person that they've been feuding with outside 823 01:15:02.279 --> 01:15:10.640 of FTR and Danielson has kind of been Swerve. It's hard to see how 824 01:15:10.720 --> 01:15:15.840 that lines up with Forbidden Door coming. But maybe maybe that opens the path 825 01:15:15.960 --> 01:15:21.000 for ye like a Gabe kid to be directed by the Elite to kill Swear 826 01:15:21.119 --> 01:15:26.680 and take him out. Yeah that's a good idea. I mean I can 827 01:15:26.720 --> 01:15:30.840 see m JF getting involved because he you know, he got that brand new 828 01:15:30.920 --> 01:15:35.279 tattoo, and he said, he's uh all in for a W and he's 829 01:15:35.800 --> 01:15:42.960 he's the face just alongside Swore, you know, swerve offspray and then together. 830 01:15:43.119 --> 01:15:46.960 I really think all the face of the a W and m j F 831 01:15:47.039 --> 01:15:54.239 and Swerve together would be a pretty cool combination. I think, how about 832 01:15:54.279 --> 01:15:58.000 that. The thing is that that tattoo was gorgeous, not to Keshta gorgeous, 833 01:15:58.039 --> 01:16:08.000 but gorgeous. I think Secsta Gordon the day to Kestia's birthday is it. 834 01:16:08.880 --> 01:16:15.800 I think it is. I hope somebody sent up a Citabon. Oh 835 01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:25.079 man, Well, I don't think he got kicked out. It's just that, 836 01:16:25.359 --> 01:16:27.119 you know, he ate it way too much. I mean, when 837 01:16:27.159 --> 01:16:30.640 he came to America full time, it was like he looked out his Twitter 838 01:16:30.640 --> 01:16:34.239 and it was like nobody, no winners of Citabon and Seattle were wherever town 839 01:16:34.319 --> 01:16:39.520 that they were in. It was hysterical. It's all he wanted was Citabon. 840 01:16:40.359 --> 01:16:45.239 When he turned heels, Cinnabon banned him, remember, and they put 841 01:16:45.319 --> 01:16:54.279 his picture up in the windows. Press passed wow. Yeah, yeah, 842 01:16:54.439 --> 01:17:02.479 so he's he's banned from Cinnabon's I could see that as a bit on being 843 01:17:02.560 --> 01:17:08.479 the elite. Oh my god, started him in the car outside of the 844 01:17:08.520 --> 01:17:11.800 local cente boss and the someone in to get him something and bring it out 845 01:17:13.359 --> 01:17:17.239 the window. Do we need to get exposure? We need MG have to 846 01:17:17.279 --> 01:17:24.119 be the host of Saturday Night Saturday Night Live. You would be great, 847 01:17:24.319 --> 01:17:32.399 Yeah, censored show. What's what's musical guests? Will Osprey? Yeah? 848 01:17:33.680 --> 01:17:40.640 Uh, what's the playing the recorder? There you go, what's the what's 849 01:17:40.680 --> 01:17:46.720 the name of oh ship but the Blades or Butcher's band? That could be 850 01:17:46.880 --> 01:17:53.399 musical guests there you go? Or Brodie or something like that. Or they 851 01:17:53.800 --> 01:17:59.880 could combine Bertie King, Bertie King's, the Butchers and Jericho's put them all 852 01:17:59.880 --> 01:18:12.079 together and make a It'll be uh with the learning turn and call himself. 853 01:18:14.560 --> 01:18:19.840 There you go. Well, well, anyway, that's gonna be the show. 854 01:18:20.279 --> 01:18:25.520 That's ignition for tonight. We'll be back tomorrow night. With all the 855 01:18:25.680 --> 01:18:28.119 talk. I have a feeling we gonna have a lot to talk about tomorrow 856 01:18:28.199 --> 01:18:32.439 night, and I think it's gonna be a pretty fun show. Regardless of 857 01:18:32.560 --> 01:18:39.560 what Chris Jericho tries to say. That'll be the highlight. Why is that? 858 01:18:40.079 --> 01:18:45.319 Why you know? I'm just looking forward to see if there's somebody new 859 01:18:45.359 --> 01:18:51.960 one painting. It's gonna be something. And Alex we may get to see 860 01:18:53.000 --> 01:18:57.560 at Sarah tomorrow night too. Yeah, that would be awesome. Oh god, 861 01:18:57.640 --> 01:19:00.880 we'll just talk about that for an hour to Yeah, we'll talk about 862 01:19:00.880 --> 01:19:12.119 that. You know, that'll be moist anyway. Anyway, thanks for listening, 863 01:19:12.199 --> 01:19:17.640 guys, Thanks to the podcast team. Uh this is Kelson, I 864 01:19:17.720 --> 01:19:23.479 have a voice. Night. Goodbye, everybody in that yo