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Hello, Hello, Joe Seleki.
That's right. I called on Joe

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Selecki from Texas. Roof, there's
only steers and queers in Texas. I'm

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just gonna say that. You know, hornds On Selucki. Bro, So

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you know what I'm saying. Bro, we already got the guy scoped owt

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we know he got mad. You
met a girl, moved to Texas,

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were girl and took them with the
with the triangle magnet. Bro, sucked

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them all the way down to Texas, left the ghetto a ball triangle magnet.

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Where did you pull up? Powerful
pi is brother empire is It's time?

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From there, I can put them
all the way down a thousand elephants,

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that's right. And it pulled Joe
Selecti all the way to Texas.

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Bro, he was doing it.
He was doing it. In Baltimore and

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now he's doing it Irvine, Texas. He's a Cowboys fan now Irvine,

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Texas. Yep, yeah, we
got how we foust in there tonight is

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a new name, but the old
usuals. Proppaccini. You got the from

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Rochester checking w W two w W
two girls in there. Yeah, she

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just came in hot last second there. Pee wee, pee wee, Hey,

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buddy, I love pee wee.
Listen, I gotta I got a

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guy today from coming in from Flint. We got twenty seven years in Flint,

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a Flint, Michigan guy. Bro, Excellent, that's gonna be a

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heavy hitter. He's a black dude, Bro, third black dude on the

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show. They don't like to come
on. He's awesome. He sounds awesome.

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I know he's gonna be great.
You know why he's awesome because he

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plays hockey. Oh that's why he's
like and he plays hockey, And I'm

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like, you lost me there,
Bro, nobody cares about hockey. You

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got what what the hell do you
mean? Gabe having my ship together tonight?

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Say hello, Tilly, I have
your lunch. Gabe's continue the pictures

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from the other day. Bro,
Yeah, bullshit you guys could suck it.

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Man. I got a call Tilly
tomorrow. Listen, you off your

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game the other day and I wasn't. I wasn't off my motherfucking game.

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Part of my friend. What's the
matter with you? Why do you know?

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I'm sorry? Well, I told
you don't be coops, coops suck

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you know we're off it again.
I gotta tell you I did it again

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today. Remember that I told you
the other day with my son, he

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dropped the forty five pound playing on
his foot. No. Sorry, So

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today I wake up my little guy. He goes to my throat is really

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killing me. I'm like, yeah, all right, but you go to

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school. Okay, you going to
school, but it's killing me. I

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can barely swallow. He's got the
tears in the eyes. And dude,

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you did that to me last time
when you had to cough. You were

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coughing like a madman. As soon
as your brother walked out the door to

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school. Where did you have like
to or something? Right, he's got

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strep throat. You're all for two, all for two, all for three.

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My other my son, Lucas,
when they's played football outside, he

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falls, he comes in. He's
not that my arm is killing me for

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the whole week. I'm like,
suck it up, man, for Christ's

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sake, suck it up. Cop
pound fracture. Take it to the doctor.

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He's gotta broke it off. He's
in a No, you're right,

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your arm is not broken. Can
you wiggle your fingers? Broken? Yeah?

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Man? Did you give him a
free ball, a little compassion?

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You know what I mean? It's
it's all right, you know I did.

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After that, I felt terrible.
I just brought him some ice cream.

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I said, as you throw a
blue buddy, come in, let

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daddy's get some ice cream and shove
that ice cream up your asshole. Man,

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isn't he trying to make the kid
lose weight? You're shoving calories down

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the straw? What's little little little
guy? All right? Yeah, he's

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little water, a little guy.
Yeah. We got a guy off from

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Baltimore City tonight, bro some work
you did, guy from Baltimore. It's

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a third guy, I think,
so freshly retired too. So he hasn't

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had the nightmare yet. He hasn't
the nightmare about losing You can't find your

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bunkie year when you get a run. But he knows we're talking about it.

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You lose your whole identity. You
come just same old schnook sitting at

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the long Yeah, beautiful, what
is that velvet? What are you gonna

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play this? What are you doing? You know? What do you want

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to hear about? Beautiful? I
don't want to hear it now here.

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When it's Tom cue you to step
up your game, bro. I gotta

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tell you that much. Coobs is
all over you. Listen, He's all

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over you. It's just a hair. It's just they all hate us out

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there. I mean, I can't
help it. What do you want?

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You know? I can't I keep
all the time. Are you ready?

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Are you ready to bring in our
boys from New Jersey? I'm ready?

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Yeah? Bring his son just got
called for the Newark, right, I

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think big Jimmy, Jimmy de Guinea
oh from yes he did? Yeah yeah,

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I mean, uh no, we
got to do the ad first.

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Yeah, yea yeah, yeah yeah
yeah from Jimmy. Established in nineteen thirty

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and under the current ownership since nineteen
eighty seven, the New Jersey Fire Equipment

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Company handles a complete line of fire
department equipment and supplies. Headquartered in green

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Brook, the company operates full three
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at the end of World War II.

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gear racks and washer drivers, Supervac
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A New Jersey incorporated and based company, sales and service are limited to

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the state of New Jersey. Find
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E dot com. That's www dot
n j f E dot com. Wow,

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we got a Gonzo fanclub. It's
true you are a true hater.

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Well, they love you just as
much I love it. Yeah, Pete's

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gonna do a commercial student with his
first gun shop. The only thing is

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he's not gonna pay for it because
hes got You have to pay for lunch

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or breakfast. Bro, you ain't
gonna pay for a commercial bit. All

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right, let's get that guy in
here, bro, let's do this all

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right, coming to the day,
all away from Baltimore City, Lieutenant Steven

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Cobo. Hey we go. The
flyers are really hot down there. Roughly.

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I heard dude only thirty six years
on the job. Thirty six years?

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Wow, man, you know over
eighty two. That Welcome to the

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show, Lieutenant Cobo, Thank you, gentlemen. Is a definitely an honored,

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approvished to be with you guys.
He's got his old Baltimore swag back

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there. Look at that. You
know he did get it. He didn't

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get the man cave totally set up
yet because he's uh, you know,

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he just really retired retired right.
Yeah, his wife is still not used

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to having him home at night.
Bro, She's like Christ going to the

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five house already. Will please please
him again? That's why I no hunt.

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My wife's like, aren't you going
hunting? That's the clue. My

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mother does say that. Doesn't his
wife get mad that he goes away all

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the time. I'm like, no, she probably enjoys it. I don't

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know what that's a break, because
if you didn't have to have little chicklets

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around, you'd be going away.
For me, yeah, my kids are

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two youngsters when we go to the
trade shows. That's it. That's enough

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for me. I don't like people
with my wife. All right, All

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right, let we have we got
to get patriot. Where is Susie been

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anyway? Anybody? I'm sure somebody
will, don't think Darren will probably chime

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up and let us know what's going
on, But you don't, you know,

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remember her husband wasn't doing very well. That sucks. All right,

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Well, let's get patriotic for Susie. Here we go. I pledge allegiance

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to the flag of the United States
of America and to the Republic for which

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it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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Guys are already throwing references in there, Steve, where's the pond?

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Soul? Throwing some shit in there? Yes, with but a rookie,

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they're gonna hang on your own night. I could see it. Oh yeah,

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I love it, we welcome it, we love it all right.

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Let's you know what, I don't
even have to ask him ro if the

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guy came with a very concise maybe
not as long as the other guy's timeline

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that we had on here, eighteen
pages long, but very concise nonetheless.

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So he even has a little section
here it says family history with bull.

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I love that part. That's the
part I love the best. I do

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too, So take it away,
Steve. You tell us the grandfather was

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on. Tell us about how you
got ut started and how your family got

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started. Well, it's younger.
My father was in my grandfather on my

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mother's side, he was a battanian
chief. He was actually was a captain

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at six sixteen truck where I used
to be stationed. They made battalion chief

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and my father got in in nineteen
fifty six when he got out of the

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Korean War and he came over and
so it became a family thing at that

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point. And growing up, you
know, Dad was always was always working.

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That's when they wore the brown khakis
and the aluminum helmets. And there

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was a few times when when my
dad was in Chargia night he was over

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eighteen engine he would actually my mother
would drop me off at the engine house

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and I would actually spend the night
sleep there. Oh yeah, Dad was

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in charge at night. So that
was that was pretty unique. And so

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that age of eighteen nineteen, I
did a little bit of volunteering and I

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say, you know what, I
can get paid to do this. So

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I went ahead and my father kept
me a breast when the test was coming

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out. Took the test in eighty
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Old Baltimore City, guys. Oh, Baltimore City, Your father and your

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grandfather ever worked together, because he
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your father got on in fifty six. Yes they did, yep, yeah,

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they work it and I have yeah, same station. No, they

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didn't work in the same station,
but they I'm sure they were wearing fires

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together. And I still have cousins
down there, and uh yeah, so

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we still have people actually there.
So did you get to work with your

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dad at all? I did?
I did. I did. So my

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father moved to Delaware, Uh about
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uh so, you know, I
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excited, and of course my dad
was like, you know, I want

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to get home because I want to
get back to Delaware. He goes,

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son, how about your work for
me my last night in I was like,

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yeah, Dad, no doubt,
you know I'll do it. Yeah.

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So that is yeah. That was
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Hm wow still around. No,
he passed about five years ago. Oh

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and uh wow, you know that
hair. Look look at your father's face

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though. You could tell he's like
my boy. Thank god he found his

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way somewhere. Get the hell out
of my house. Before that? Did

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you go to school? Before that? You go to college? What we

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went to? No, I went
to graduate from high school. I worked

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in a grocery store, and uh
so I did that for actually for twenty

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years. I was doing both jobs. For twenty years. I did the

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grocery store, got in the fire
department eighty seven, still work at the

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grocery store. And then I left
the grocery store as a part timer back

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in two thousand when my daughter was
born. And uh yeah, and then

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you know fire remember always picking up
by jobs here and there. Guys had

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the waking bulls about working in the
grocery store, not like spilling Aisle eleven

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or something like that. Eleven.
It was, it was, it was

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good and I was excited about getting
in and uh yeah, it was good.

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Kevin Brown's lieutenants and then I think
we got was always always yeah.

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As a matter of fact, I
think we matter. We think, oh

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here this, look at this.
Then moving the station lawn, that's me.

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Yeah, pro to do that?
What do you what are you doing

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out there? I would I had
other things for them to do, and

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I would get out there. It
was all hands, basically, and there

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was a lot of grass next to
the firehouse. It's probably about a half

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acre, and uh so it had
to be done and we would split up.

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Guys would trim him. And you
know, Rake and I always like

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jumping on the miller and get it
done. Doesn't doesn't the city pay guys

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to do that? What are you
doing? Pay him? You let him

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keep his job. You mentioned that
down here, and people are like,

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oh, what are you saying?
Don't we would go there? What cutting

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grass? Grass? Down here at
the firehouse. If you guys put the

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dishes in the dishwashing by house,
probably you gotta worry about cutting grass.

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They will give dish washer, so
well you have to probably he's a dishwasher.

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Probably a dishwasher. So you go
to probably school and this see let

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me get some notes. Yet you
took the test in eighty five, you

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got hided in eighty seven. What
was Baltimore like back then? Because that

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was a little b about Baltimore because
people don't know. You know, from

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what I know about Baltimore is you
have to eat a habit there which is

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beautiful. You step outside anywhere right
outside of it, whoa hands over there

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with? Yeah, it was it
was probably about the same, but you

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could expand a little a little bit
bigger back in the eighties and you than

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you can now. The stadium of
course came, Oriel Park, came New

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Yards and then Ravens Stadium, so
you know, I kind of pushed out

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some of the old buildings and they
came in, and so it became more

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and more tourisy. Uh huh uh
so up to people coming state and from

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this panic counties were coming in.
So yeah, it was. It was

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still it was pretty popular. It's
not as popular actually in the harbor,

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in the Inner Harbor now it's other
actually talking about redesigning it, but around

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the stadiums is still very popular.
So yeah, how far where did you

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live in the subwhere outside Baltimore?
I did. I lived in northeast Baltimore,

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probably closer to Baltimore County, and
I lived there tows about eleven years

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old, and then we moved out
to the county about eleven years old.

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And how far is that twenty minute
drive? Forty minutes far enough, just

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far enough now and now it's it's
it's a lot worse than it was back

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then, right, I'm sure it
is. It is. It's uh well,

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you know, you see it on
the news. It's uh it.

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It's violent real quick and right.
So, did you guys go through your

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war years in the seventies like we
did up here? You know, we

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were hitting in the late eighties in
like the early nineties. It was the

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crack epidemic. I mean it was
a lot of gangs from Jamaica and all

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that were coming in, you know, claiming turf. So we had a

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lot of shootings back in the late
eighties early nineties. The crack is whack,

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yeah, crack, the whole crack. Academic was amongst us, and

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that definitely kept kept everybody busy doing
that. How big is the department Baltimore

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City. It's about fifteen hundred uniform
personnel roughly human stations. It's about thirty

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I want to say thirty eight thirty
six engine companies and uh fourteen ladder companies

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and close to thirty two medic units. And they got they broke it up

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in six battalions. Yeah, it's
about ninety two square miles. Is actually

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discomfort of the city. Rescues one
rescue, one rescue. Yeah, I'm

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sorry, yeah, one rescue,
and they keep very busy. Yeah,

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they're always running. They got to
be right. They covered, they cover

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the whole. They covered the whole, the whole ninety or not ninety well

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in the ninety five south of Baltimore
Bottembre Beltway. And of course everything goes

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into city. You know, they
go on first their area that they're around.

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They'll go on first storm assignments for
building, vowing fires and and whatever

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special call that they need them.
And how many guys ride on the rig

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and an engine and a lot of
by your guys. Four so we have

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four in the engine and four in
the truck. Four and the rescue and

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including the officer for including the officers. So when I pull up, especially

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when you're your first in first in
ladder company, you you're busy your forcefule

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entry because you got your uh your
two step guys throwing grand ladders or your

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tillerman thrown ground ladders, and you
have your driver getting the aerow ladder up

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to the roof and uh so you're
it. You're you're getting the door open.

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You got the engine guys coming behind
you. So you really got to

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be on your game. You've got
to be on your game getting the front

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end or the front door opened up. And what are they sending on a

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on a confirmed building fire. Well, if it comes out as a initial

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the initial called initial box still send
out four engines U, two trucks,

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two Botani chiefs in a Medican.
I remember talking with the chief from Baltimore,

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that Chief Lega. I remember him
saying, you guys still have quite

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a few. You know, that's
one of the places that still has a

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lot of vacants there, right,
you guys still have a lot of vacants.

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I think the last count I heard
was fifteen thousand vacants. Now they've

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been they've been working to get them, you know, demolished and brought them

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up, you know, do whatever
until they could you know, get secure

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the owner. You know a lot
of these owners are from out of state

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and trying to get them, you
know, come secure your property, take

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care of your property. And so
that's always been a challenge. Did they

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change, I mean, unfortunately we
heard you know, we lost a few

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guys and Baltimore the last Yes,
yeah, yeah, yes, change they

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did. They they changed the run
assignments are pretty much the same, but

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they when the chiefs assignment, they
wind up given the chief aids. So

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the chief has aids to help them
out, you know, logistically on the

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fire scene, second set of eyes
and you know drive for them because the

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chiefs before then we're driving and trying
to work the radio and all by themselves.

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So they were were they used the
task saturated is the work. Yeah,

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that's the name of Chicago. They
drive themselves too, they don't they

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did they change any of the sps
as far as that with a lot of

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duty stuff. They did. They
they changed it to Now how they you

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have to have a companies in the
rear said they want to complete three sixty,

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especially when it comes to a vacant, they want to complete three sixty

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and then the chief on the scene
will make the determination if it's secure to

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go ahead and go and take lines. And that's two years ago. That's

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crazy. I know. The recent
deaths were a few months ago with Lieutenant

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Dillon, they were a couple of
months ago. But we just cell we're

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not celebrated. We just had the
anniversary of Paul Buttram and Kenny and Kelsey.

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Yesterday was two years for them for
the three yea in the collapse on

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Stricker Street. Wow, and you
guys had a tough couple of years.

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Yeah five and yeah five and less
than two years. Well, it's vacance

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thought, a lot of places to
drill right practice with the young guys or

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they just that lap again, just
don't even go in them. They you

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know, you can throw the ground, ladders and all that. Years ago,

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when I first started, you could
pretty much have your way with a

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vacant. You know, you could
maybe start saws, get something going.

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But again it comes back down to
insurance lawyers and not too thin. Get

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that they when everything kind of you
know controlled it the fire Academy and when

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certified instructors making sure that that they
can see what's going on, make sure

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it's it's taught properly. So so
let's get back to the academy. You

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go into the academy and eighty seven. How long is the academy? It

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was thirteen weeks, that's what OZ
was, right, do we do thirteen

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weeks? It's pronounced like ten months. I think it's what some of the

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guys really, I think it is
now. I think we I did.

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I think we did like week and
thirteen weeks. Thirteen weeks, yeah,

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including the game. Well, you
got your emt with you like two weeks

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and then the rest was all you
know, fire Suppression, Peace Officer was

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like a week or some ship like
that. I don't remember. I got

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in in October and I got to
the firehouse in January or February. January,

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I got down in May, and
I got on in July, the

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beginning of July. It's like thirteen
fourteen weeks something like that. Started May,

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no, May and June it was
eight weeks and then you said July,

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right, yeah, on July technd. Oh all right, so ten

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weeks, nine weeks something like that. Whatever, So you get into uh,

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probably was the class. How big
were you the classes? Running back?

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My class I had forty five four
got a big class, small class

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competitive, that average, that was
average at the time, it was average.

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They try to get three classes a
year through if they could, you

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know now, you know, being
the classes are like nine ten months,

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they might get one through. You
know. So did you know where you

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wanted to go? Did Dad know
where you were going? Or how did

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that work? Now? I kind
of, you know, expressed I want

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to go to a truck company,
and so I went twenty nine truck and

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uh so it was good. It
was a good place to start at.

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It wasn't overwhelming and it was it
was a good place to start out.

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So I got the chance right November
yep. Uh so you're saying not a

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lot of service. Yep, it
was a tiller though, Yes it was

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tiller, yeah right, acting pump
operata. So yeah, so I got

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a chance to really work on those
things like driving tiller and an active po

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because you know, there's those skills
are good to have, you know,

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especially being a new recruit. Is
that kind of keeps you off the medic

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unit and you help your company out, you know, if you know they've

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got a guy that's from the company
in house that can fill in and need

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it, so instead of getting somebody. So you had what engine was with

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you guys? Four engine? Yea
four engine, four engine twenty nine trucks.

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So if you if you become a
pump operator, it saves your ass

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and going right in the medics that
night, got a couple of times I

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went across the aisle, across the
the bay and go over to the engine

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and pump operate for him for you
know a trick or two. So nice.

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So Uh, it says you studied
for Emergency Vehicle drive up which means

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what like your chauffeur like to drive
the ladder truck. Yeah, you it's

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EVD Emergency vehicle driver and you drive
and tiller the ladder trucks. That's a

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promotion. That is a promotion.
Oh who is your bosses there that you

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remember? Who was your your first
captain? Uh? That's going back,

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Wow, Captain Dalen was my first
captain at twenty nine and I had uh

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Lieutenant Lemon and had Lieutenant Coleman were
my first officers. And how long did

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it take you to catch your first
job over that? I want to say

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probably three months. Yeah, about
three months to three months. Caught a

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lot of medics, a lot of
medical assists. Uh, but the first

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job was about two or three months. Yeah, it was funny. At

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the about about a year or two
was transfer. I was detailed to a

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different company and got to talking to
the rookie that was at that company,

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and we were talking about my first
fire that I had a twenty nine truck

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and it was his father's house.
So really you went to yeah, it

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was yeah, we went to his
father's house, bro in the street.

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He goes, oh, that was
my dad's house, and yeah, we

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talked about it. That was kind
of unique. Yeah, so it was

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what kind of fun was it was? It was a bloom frame construction.

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It started in the first floor and
it got up, walked its way up

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through the second floor up into the
attic. So when we pulled up,

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we had a heavy amount of smoke
coming out the attic, out of the

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eaves and uh. Yeah. So
it was uh in that area, twenty

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nine trucks area was a lot of
bloom frame construction homes. So you got

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that a lot. So you study, you're promoted to drive, and you

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go over to truck sixteen truck sixteen. Ev D, what's ev D?

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What's Baltimore? Yeah, it was
a truck sixteen was right on the west

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east Baltimore line, and it was
good. It was a lot of service

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and uh because you kind of you
were kind of in the middle of the

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city, so you could go northeast, south or west pretty easily, and

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so got some good work there.
Uh, really got a chance to work

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on some good truck skills. And
uh, you know it was good.

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It was good, run good,
love an engine there, what you do.

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No, we were a single house, single truck, bro truck in

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the middle of the in the middle
of the city, back in the middle

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city. That's awesome. Is it
still like that now? No, they

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closed it down. It was I'm
going to say the one thing that two

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things are going to happen. Either
they closed them or they stuck an endy

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with him. Well, a truck
sixteen is still around. But they closed

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the house and suck them to where
I think in my timeline you have truck

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four there. So they right when
they were doing closures. So right,

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that's right, that's right. And
do what that building now? City still

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on it. It was a the
police originally bought it for training, like

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classroom for training, and then it
is now I think I think it's probably

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I think it's like a like a
civic not a civic center, like a

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community center. I think they use
that. Now, Hey, go this

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truck sixteen. Here it is.
Yeah, I was trying to find a

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better image. But the ones that
were popping up are still a little grainy

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that. Uh no, that's not
a till, is it. Yes,

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it is trying to find a good
picture of it. Nice. So you

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truck six things. You said you
had a great shift. Do you guys

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work like the ABC shifts too,
like a lot of the other guys do.

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Yeah, at that time I had
well, right now it's ABC and

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D shift. We had four shifts, and at that time it was two

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days on, two days, two
nights off, four two days, two

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nights off four and two days too
nights and y're all four that's the best

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schedule. Yeah, it was seven, you know, seven to four,

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seven to five, and then usually
got into about three four o'clock and you

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work till six next morning. You
relief usually got into about six and you

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know, get you home and then
they went to the twenty four hour shifts,

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so we did. Now they're on
the shift twenty four hours. It's

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twenty four one, twenty four off, twenty four one, five days off,

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it's five days off. That's that's
not bad, all right? Rough?

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Yeah, bad, and you're going
to fives? Yeah, that steal

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firehouse, right, I just wanted
to sixteen at sixteen original there was original

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sixteen truck right there. Yeah,
now it's a it's a brewer. I

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think it's a brewery. Now.
It looks like there's a little sign right

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out front there. They turned it
into I think they were calling it like

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Ladder sixteen brewery or something like that. He might have seen it once or

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twice, right ever known to go
about who are so many guys in sixteen

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truck that you latched onto him?
Yeah? I had, Uh, well,

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Al Chaney he was the first acting
guy and he was he was great.

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He really really showed me around.
Yeah. Beanie Muller he was a

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wild man, hell of a fireman, but he was a wild man.

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And uh, and I had I
just had some really really good guys there.

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And Charlie la Hatt he was a
really good fireman. And I had

408
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:55.920
all good fireman there. It was
a good house. Steve Savalla was there,

409
00:29:56.160 --> 00:30:00.680
so it was good and got a
lot of service and actually learned a

410
00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:04.240
lot being there coming from nine truck
to go there. How long were you

411
00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:10.720
there for? Originally I was there
for about two years and I went when

412
00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:14.279
I got in the what they call
the heat team. It's called the high

413
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:18.720
Rise Emergency Aerial Team. I think
I have that in my lineup eighty three.

414
00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:23.359
So the heat team we did like
high angle, below grade, confined

415
00:30:23.400 --> 00:30:30.119
space and we worked with the Maryland
State Police to do like rooftop you know,

416
00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:34.079
extrication stuff like that if they need
anything for the high rise fires.

417
00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:37.680
So the rescue was big into that. So I for you know what,

418
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:41.079
I'm really enjoying his heat team.
Let me go to the rescue so I

419
00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:45.880
could be there with the rescue,
and you know, with the heat team

420
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:49.119
you kind of stemming from that.
So I went to the rescue and it

421
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:51.920
was good. It was a good
run. I was on the Heat team

422
00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:56.119
I guess maybe five years, four
or five years, and then kids came

423
00:30:56.160 --> 00:31:00.160
along and it really eat up a
lot of time and I had to focus

424
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:03.920
wore on always the kids, bro, you know what I mean. Well,

425
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:07.359
now the rescue have their own quarters
and in with somebody else. No,

426
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:10.839
they were at Steven Station, right
near Oral Park. Came New yours.

427
00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:14.920
We caught the super house Steven Station. Uh, it's pretty big.

428
00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:21.839
It housed at that time probably four
four suppression units to medic units. And

429
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:26.200
it was across from where the they
used to have the what do you call

430
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:29.240
the trade show they had the Yes, you got right across the street,

431
00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:32.960
right, I remember, off from
that place. Yeah, that's where the

432
00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:42.200
rescue was. Wow, that's richinally
it used to set up. Yeah,

433
00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:47.359
so it was a good one and
the rescue was good. You got a

434
00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:51.839
lot of fires in the rescue.
We did, we did we uh,

435
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:55.480
we went to again. You were
sent on initial boxes, but a lot

436
00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:59.759
of times they would pick you up
and uh and send you out on spend

437
00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:01.160
any were in the city. If
you got a special call, you were

438
00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:05.799
going and being the only rescue,
you kept busy. A lot of elevators,

439
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:09.160
you did a lot of elevator runs
and uh so you kept busy.

440
00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:12.960
It was good. What was the
role of the rescue When they roll up

441
00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:17.079
to a fire truck work truck work, go up and help them work,

442
00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:23.559
yep, ventilate, uh, forcequ
entry, go to exposures and that's pretty

443
00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:28.680
much problems. Yep, fix the
problems take solves up up top, you

444
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:32.440
know, go into either either side
on on the exposures and you know whatever

445
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:39.559
else the the once team commander needed
you to do. So, so how

446
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:43.839
do you get to the rescue?
Yeah? How'd you get over there?

447
00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:46.440
Being on the heat team? I
was on the heat So I got on

448
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:50.519
the heat team prior to being on
the rescue, and so I put in

449
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:53.200
for it because they needed a driver
an e v D and uh they said,

450
00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:57.039
yeah, come on over. So
I was when the spot came open,

451
00:32:57.079 --> 00:32:59.799
I was able to get in.
Who was your boss was over there?

452
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:02.640
That you remember? I had?
I had Captain Riccado, Joe Briccado,

453
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:07.720
he was my captain. Uh good
good, good fire really good fireman.

454
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:12.359
And uh he was a captain there
when I was there, and he

455
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:16.400
was good. I had Steve Gibson, he was my actual lieutenant and he

456
00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:22.200
since retired. And uh so I
really again we had great, really good

457
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:32.920
cruise. I have I have your
first show for experience for you. There

458
00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:36.920
you go. I was ample for
that. I was out after that.

459
00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:47.119
Looks on the game tonight, you
see that had a little smack him around

460
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:50.839
a little bit. And then now
all of a sudden we got the old

461
00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:58.759
Gonzo Vera. I missed you.
Gonza was welcome back. Yeah, yeah,

462
00:33:55.079 --> 00:34:00.839
so the kids come, so you
want to you want to we'll go

463
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:04.519
up back to the truck work.
Is that lit I did? Yeah.

464
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:07.559
I had an opportunity to go to
Truck four. And Truck four was you

465
00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:09.880
know, you had, you know, a couple of truck companies in every

466
00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:15.280
every city stand out, and Truck
four was one of those companies that stood

467
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:17.960
out. I mean, great fire
service, great officers, you know,

468
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:23.639
great fireman and I had an opportunity
to go there. There was a guy

469
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:27.400
that wanted to do like a mutual
swap. He wanted to go to the

470
00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:30.320
rescue, and I wanted to go
back to a truck company. And Truck

471
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:34.360
four opened up and he wanted to
go to the rescue, and so we

472
00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:37.760
did a mutual swap. So that
happened for me, and it was a

473
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:40.519
good time. It was a great
time. It was a really good time.

474
00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:45.159
I was going to ask you,
I thought, was I just gonna

475
00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:51.239
ask you? Holy shit? I
just looked down at my notes for a

476
00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:54.480
second. I didn't know if you
wanted to discuss because you kind of we

477
00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:58.360
kind of flip past it going through
his timeline. But when he was a

478
00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:04.079
truck sixteen, he had the job
at the clipper mill fire. Yeah.

479
00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:08.519
Bro, hold on, I have
a notable. So let's go to the

480
00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:14.840
clipper mill fire in September ninety five
while you were in trup sixteen. Yes,

481
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:20.239
we uh I remember that night,
go well too well. Actually it

482
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:23.519
was September ninety five. Was kind
of like a night what I'm seeing out

483
00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:27.880
here now, rainy, foggy,
was terrible, terrible night. And we

484
00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:32.480
get a call for a building fire
and clipper mill which is kind of like

485
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:36.599
off kind of in the center of
city. So we get there and it

486
00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:39.519
was a it was an old foundry
building that they used to back in the

487
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:45.079
days to make cannonballs, actually make
the spilling. Yeah, and it was

488
00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:49.159
I would it was about three hundred
feet long. It was huge. It

489
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:53.559
was huge, had the big foundry
stones. And since then they converted it

490
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:58.159
into businesses. They had like artists
in there, and they had a couple

491
00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:00.360
like auto shops in there. So
they had that broke the building up and

492
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:05.119
the you know, different businesses that
went in there. So we get there

493
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:09.480
and the whole, the whole back
of the place is off and we get

494
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:14.800
to the front of the building and
I'm with thirteen engine here and there you

495
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:19.760
go, that's it. Wowow the
big building man. And uh. We

496
00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:28.280
get there with thirteen engine and it
was myself, Paul Novak and his crew

497
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:31.119
from thirteen engine. So I get
there. I was sixteen truck. We

498
00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:34.960
forcedble entry, roll up doors,
you know. We make our cut.

499
00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:40.320
We get inside and ten Novaks asking
for two and a half. It's a

500
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:44.000
lot of fire, so we go
ahead and we get two and a half

501
00:36:44.039 --> 00:36:46.719
stretched. We have about I want
to say, six to eight guys inside

502
00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:52.199
the building at that time, and
we get about maybe thirty feet in thirty

503
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:55.840
forty feet in, and we open
up the two and a half and we're

504
00:36:55.880 --> 00:37:00.360
just trying to keep it from going, you know, more or more,

505
00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:06.119
and we're knocking it and then you
just heard this like sounded like a freight

506
00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:08.599
train. You know, you could
look at the back of the building.

507
00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:15.159
You could just watch the building like
start to collapse on itself, and Lieutenant

508
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:17.320
Know it was like it was coming, that was coming right at you.

509
00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:23.159
And Lieutenant Novac turned around and screamed
it always get out, get out its

510
00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:28.800
phone in. So we had been
in the hose line. We all ran

511
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:35.760
out towards the roll up door that
we had cut, and just as we

512
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:38.920
were getting out, Uh, it
collapsed right up where we were. And

513
00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:45.400
I remember being pushed out into the
street from the debris and the big huge

514
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:52.440
foundry stones that were that were making
that made up the walls, and so

515
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:54.920
I got pushed down into the street. When I ran out, I was

516
00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:59.559
actually next to air schaffers. We
were running out, and I wound up

517
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:04.280
going straight eight. Eric broke to
the right. He ran along the wall

518
00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:09.599
to the right and and then the
rest of the building collapsed during Lieutenant Novak

519
00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:15.920
and his crew and it was it
was they definitely Guy was down there watching

520
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:20.639
him that day on that crew,
because they were right at the door when

521
00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:23.559
it collapsed. So the the roll
up door kind of like enveloped them.

522
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:29.679
So they weren't, you know,
crushed by the degree. Yeah, they

523
00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:32.800
were like in a cocoon, protected
almost. Yeah. Yes, it was

524
00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:37.840
crazy. And so this thing collapse, you know, I Uh, Captain

525
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:43.800
Gnostic from thirty three engine he was
there, and I'm sprayed out on the

526
00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:46.719
ground and he picks him out and
throws him further back out onto the road

527
00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:51.199
because the debris still falling. So
we get up and we're like, wow,

528
00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:54.280
you know, we got a gas
leak, and it's probably a two

529
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:58.880
inch main gas. It's robbling.
I mean, it's it's kicking and that's

530
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:04.480
rolling. It's we got hose lines
busted in the street. So I looked

531
00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:07.440
behind me and won of the paramedics
from Medic sixteen. He calls over and

532
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:09.519
says, hey, give me a
hand. So we got the captain from

533
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:15.400
twenty five truck. He's knocked out
and he's face down in a puddle and

534
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:20.599
he's actually in cardiac arrests. He
stopped breathing knocked out and he was so

535
00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:24.079
we rolled him over and we started
doing CPR. We brought him back right

536
00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:28.840
there before we got him back in
the medical union, and then it was

537
00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:32.960
basically scaring the fire ground, looking, hey, you're screaming out people,

538
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:37.119
and it's funny we were screaming out
we did. At this point, we

539
00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:40.000
didn't know where Eric was, and
we didn't know where Lieutenant Novak and his

540
00:39:40.119 --> 00:39:44.679
crew was either, and you know, we were hollering for him, and

541
00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:46.559
it was something you would see out
of a movie. Next thing, you

542
00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:53.119
know, you see this hand coming
up through the debris from the building and

543
00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:57.679
he's waving his hand like that.
You that's all you saw was his hand.

544
00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:01.159
It's like wow. So we ran
over to where that door kind of

545
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:05.960
made a cocoon over these guys and
uh moving the debris, and we got

546
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:09.440
him out and him and his uh, his two guys were secure underneath that

547
00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:13.400
door. Was crazy. You know, they were banged up right, and

548
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:15.719
it could have been a lot worse. I hope they played a lot of

549
00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:19.480
that day when they went home,
brother something. It was just seeing his

550
00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:22.239
handcome it was something you would see, you know. It was crazy.

551
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:25.480
And what happened to the other guys
who broke right here? Eric Eric broke

552
00:40:25.559 --> 00:40:30.840
right and he was on the rescue
and uh so now we were looking for

553
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:37.519
Eric and we we didn't find Eric
until about maybe forty minutes into it,

554
00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:40.559
and uh, you know, it's
basically just rolling debris over and you know,

555
00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:45.559
trying to see where he might have
went and and he so we found

556
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:51.400
him about forty minutes into it,
and yeah, he was he was crushed

557
00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:54.800
by the founder stones. Wow.
It was crazy, crazy, night crazy.

558
00:40:54.800 --> 00:41:00.440
That's one you're not going to forget. Bro No the bosso called to

559
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:04.760
get out. I mean Lieutenant Novak, I mean he saved. He shaved

560
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:07.360
a lot of guys there. Yes
he did, Yes, he did.

561
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:12.159
Yeah, he's he's a very he
was probably one of the best fireman officers.

562
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:15.519
Yeah, to do the job.
The guy is, he's got he's

563
00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:19.280
got two sons in the job.
Now he's on the job A bunch after

564
00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:28.719
that. I want to say Lieutenant
Novak left probably six seven years after that.

565
00:41:28.920 --> 00:41:31.320
We did, after I made lieutenant
in two thousand. I think he

566
00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:35.440
retired two thousand and one, two
thousand and two somewhere around there. And

567
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:38.119
his two boys and then his youngest
son is out a thirteen engine where his

568
00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:44.360
dad was, and his older son
is the is a captain at the fire

569
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:47.400
communications dispatch. So how did you
not have that in your list of Oh

570
00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:52.440
ships, you almost almost big.
He could have went in that one,

571
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:59.880
brot close, that could have been
in your close call section right there.

572
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:04.440
It was. How did you h
just a quick thing like we've had that

573
00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:07.800
a lot. I mean, I
know personally guys at the trade center who

574
00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:15.400
were standing with guys, whether they
were in the hotel, at the lobby

575
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:19.320
or if they were standing in the
command post, and all of a sudden

576
00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:22.519
everything started happening and we just yeah, one guy went one left and one

577
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:27.360
guy went right. You know,
like, how did you handle that?

578
00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:31.679
Like knowing that you were that close
with him at that spot and it was

579
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:36.320
just you know, obviously it's luck
at that point. Yes, it was

580
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:39.920
pure, pure luck. It was
I was I had an angel next to

581
00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:45.119
me that night, that's for sure. But you didn't really think about it

582
00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:46.519
at the moment. And then,
as you know, as time went on

583
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:50.159
and there was a lot of people
that were injured that night. I mean

584
00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:55.400
they the light rail was rapped by
by clipp Or Mill. They were they

585
00:42:55.440 --> 00:43:00.960
actually took the light rail and they
were loadingly injured onto light rail cars and

586
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:04.920
taking him down to Shot Trauma Center
instead of trying to do the whole medic

587
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:08.599
thing getting out of there, so
they just load him up one when the

588
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:13.239
light rail and sent them down to
trauma center. That way. A lot

589
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:15.679
of people, a lot of guys
got pensioned that night, and of course

590
00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:21.840
hapened rest is soul. We lost
Eric and we almost lost Kat in the

591
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:25.239
twenty five truck and uh, you
know that was give him back, right,

592
00:43:25.320 --> 00:43:29.480
I mean it was crazy. We
rolled him over and he had that

593
00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:34.840
gray ash. He looked and it
was like what they tell him, stay

594
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:38.960
away from the light, little bike. Yeah, so that was that was

595
00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:45.199
uh yeah, great, at least
one good thing came out of Yeah,

596
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:49.800
Steve, sorry, Steve, this
picture was from that fire, just so

597
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:52.280
you know, but we went from
before. I don't know if that you're

598
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:55.639
in this image or not, but
I'm not sure. I just wanted to

599
00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:59.840
know what it was in case you
Yeah, I wanted to talk about it.

600
00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:02.880
It was. It was quite a
night. And okay, yeah,

601
00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:07.639
now I think they I think it's
condos or departments or something. How they

602
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:10.440
were, but they got a really
what they did was they put a really

603
00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:16.400
nice plaque and a memorial to Eric
Schaeffer there. It's it's very very nice.

604
00:44:16.440 --> 00:44:22.079
So it's it's in memory of That's
good. It's nice. All right.

605
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:24.760
So let's Discovery channel. Let's switch
gears a little bit. Oh yeah,

606
00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:28.920
fun, Discovery channel. You did
a lot of stuff while you were

607
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:31.400
in truck to the teen or truck
four, right, trump four became truck

608
00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:35.920
sixteen when at the truck four was
quarters correct, yes, when they closed

609
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:38.639
truck four right, and then so
what happened was they they closed truck four.

610
00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:43.519
So they came to us like,
I don't know, two days before

611
00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:45.159
they were closed up. We're gonna
your guys are budget cup, we're closing

612
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:49.280
you. So they're just going to
keep the house single the thirteen engine.

613
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:52.559
So you know, we were able
to get first DIBs on where we wanted

614
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:53.599
to go, and I said,
well, I'll go back to Truck sixteen

615
00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:57.360
because they had an open ev D
spot. So I was able to go

616
00:44:57.440 --> 00:45:00.800
back to Truck sixteen in the middle
of the city. So I went there.

617
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:06.239
And about a year later, they
had a fire up on might actually

618
00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:07.599
might have been less than a year. They had a fire up on Utah

619
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:13.239
Place and there was no truck available
to get up there. And it was

620
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:15.800
about six seven in the morning.
There was a woman trapped and she was

621
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:19.679
in the bottom apartment and it was
one of those doors. It was a

622
00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:22.599
great it was a bar door,
but where you had had the key to

623
00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:25.559
open the door, and of course, you know, she was being engulfed

624
00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:30.079
by smoke and everything else. She'd
had no way to get her key,

625
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:35.880
and she perished. She died,
you know, at that door, and

626
00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:39.119
so the city went uh oh,
so they went ahead and moved us,

627
00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:44.199
you know, back over to Truck
Forth quarters, you know, shuffling some

628
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:49.199
companies around because the councilman over there
everybody and rightfully so made a big stink

629
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:52.519
and the truck should have never left
there. So they put truck sixteen there

630
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:58.920
and so I continued as an EVD
over there. All right, So what

631
00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:01.639
about the Discovery only you did value
in truck sixteen? Tell us about that?

632
00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:05.000
Oh, it was, it was. That was a good time.

633
00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:08.960
We were. We had the opportunity
to uh there was a film crew from

634
00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:14.440
a part of Discovery Channel. They
were from Great Britain and they came over

635
00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:17.480
to her and I think they want
to stayed, I want to say six

636
00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:22.000
to nine months. And they basically
they rode with us, and they rode

637
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:24.639
with the meta units, they rode
with the rescue, they rode with thirteen

638
00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:29.599
engine, and they rode with sixteen
truck and I think they rode with the

639
00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:34.760
FIV. So they kind of got
a taste of of you know, kind

640
00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:38.280
of different aspects of Bournemous City Fire
Department. And so yeah, it was

641
00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:40.400
neat to hand, you know,
the whole camera set up, and they

642
00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:45.559
had guys following you around, and
uh, they were a lot more friendlier

643
00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:47.599
letting the actual camera crew go into
somebody's well. And I think there's a

644
00:46:47.639 --> 00:46:51.800
clip in there where the actual camera
guys actually going in. We had a

645
00:46:52.440 --> 00:47:06.039
store the second get to that that
was and y, let's play that video.

646
00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:09.320
We got guns. I have both, so we'll play the bounce and

647
00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:14.960
drugs. You can write a thousand
books on that. Here. It's it's

648
00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:20.960
it's it's a lot. There's a
lot of it here. Who the hell

649
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:28.519
was that guy? You want to
know? You're working here? Kid?

650
00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:38.760
Your stunt double? Do we need
to see that again? Yeah? I

651
00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:43.119
gotta see that. Get the stunt
double with Cobo. Get out of there,

652
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:49.199
Limited, Pty Limited. Put the
other one on it. Here we

653
00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:55.079
go. Truck sixteen has one hundred
foot ladders and two drivers, one at

654
00:47:55.119 --> 00:48:00.559
each end. Steve Cobo is the
tiller man. He steers the rear by

655
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:14.840
the truck. Work I think is
very exciting in itself, but being back

656
00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:17.320
there driving the back of the trucks
exciting. It's like being on a big

657
00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:25.280
amusement ride. You've got to constantly
watch where you're turning, and the tillerman

658
00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:30.960
has to turn the exact opposite of
what the driver is turning. So if

659
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:34.679
the driver is turning left, the
tillerman has to turn his wheel to the

660
00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:37.159
right to bring the rear end of
the truck over to the right. And

661
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:40.679
then when the driver finishes his turn, well, then the tillerman has to

662
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:45.599
bring the wheel back and line himself
back in line with the driver. So

663
00:48:45.719 --> 00:49:00.079
your hands are moving all the time. Back then line under stick. And

664
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:06.039
I thought she said that she hurt
the guy in there, all right,

665
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:15.440
do the stick. I like the
job of a firefighter. It's something exciting,

666
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:21.960
always different every day, a third
generation of firefighter in the family.

667
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:27.760
And I guess it's kind of in
the blood. So they say, I

668
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:32.719
don't know, we had a robe
star here. That's a good time.

669
00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:39.480
I'll get your autographic later there.
Run with you guys. Oh yeah,

670
00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:42.519
yeah, we called it. We
called a couple of fires. Again,

671
00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:45.960
there's a lot of clips in there
in the discovery. You see it on

672
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:49.480
YouTube, But yeah, we call
a lot of fires. And h pick

673
00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:55.920
that up. I know, I
know that guy called his career was great.

674
00:49:55.920 --> 00:50:00.800
It was a great experience. And
yeah, absolut It was good.

675
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:02.880
It was good. Wants to know
if you missed the orange and white rags,

676
00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:06.679
the little pee wee wants to know. Yes, absolutely, Yeah,

677
00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:10.639
they were talking about that signified Bortimer
City, the orange and white signified Bonimer

678
00:50:10.679 --> 00:50:13.880
City. You said they might be
going back to that, right, we

679
00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:16.079
might go talk that. They're talking
about going back to the orange white.

680
00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:20.000
They were kicking. They're kicking it
around. A little birdie told me he

681
00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:25.079
still got you need it, you
need it? Yeah, talking about uh,

682
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:28.519
now, this is when you're in
truck one. Wait a minute,

683
00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:34.599
when did you got step We were
just actually getting into truck one. Actually

684
00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:37.400
that's when I made lieutenant two thousand. Oh you did, all right,

685
00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:40.679
So we segue into this because your
oh ship moments happened in truck one.

686
00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:45.960
So ye, truck one. So
you get promoted, you go and do

687
00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:49.760
that thing called studying like Roof had
to deal. I don't know why,

688
00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:52.679
but you get study, you get
promoted, you go to truck one.

689
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:55.000
I had babies defeat. I had
had to get studied. All right,

690
00:50:55.000 --> 00:51:00.440
I understand what you're saying. It's
a bad thing, you know, if

691
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:02.280
you want to Some guys got on
a power trip, you know whatever,

692
00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:14.119
you guys. So tell us about
the Dawson family fires a wire and truck

693
00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:16.920
one yeah, truck one, yeah, Dawson, Dawson family. It was.

694
00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:23.079
It was killed the whole family.
It was a drug dealer, uh

695
00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:30.239
that to the Dawson The mother kept
calling the police, you know, wanting

696
00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:32.400
them to, you know, investigate
the drug dealer was going outside in our

697
00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:37.280
house. She had like five kids
and very concerned, rightfully so. And

698
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:42.760
so the local dealer there, you
know, came to come to find out

699
00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:45.960
that that was the one that kept
calling on him. So in the middle

700
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:50.320
of the night, he took it
wasn't much from what I'm hearing from f

701
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:53.639
I b was like a sprite bottle
of gasolet. It wasn't much. And

702
00:51:53.840 --> 00:51:58.920
he poured it around the front door
of the house and the side door and

703
00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:04.880
lit it off about to in the
morning and we get the call and it's

704
00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:07.679
the night kind of like we have
now. It's very it was very fog.

705
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:09.000
He's about to in the morning.
It was very fog. He couldn't

706
00:52:09.119 --> 00:52:13.159
couldn't see your hand in front of
you. So we're going up Caroline Street

707
00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:16.400
and you could smell it. You
can see it banking down and uh,

708
00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:22.960
next thing, you know, this
orange glow goes past in front of the

709
00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:25.440
truck. One so I told my
driver stop, you know. So we

710
00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:29.880
stopped and we got out and it
was the father jumping out the third floor

711
00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:35.199
window close. So we did not
thank god, we didn't run him over.

712
00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:38.280
He wind up past it anyway.
But so we get there and yeah,

713
00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:44.960
all three floors are off and running
and wind up killing all five children,

714
00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:47.280
the mother and the father. Oh
wow, crazy. And they took

715
00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:52.760
they took the house. They gutted
it out, and they made it into

716
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:58.239
a community center. You touched the
guy, they did? They they caught

717
00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:02.119
him and he's in jay. Yeah. I think he was might have been

718
00:53:02.159 --> 00:53:05.480
eighteen or nineteen. He was a
young guy. He wasn't like he was

719
00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:07.920
you know, in the twenties or
thirties. He was a young guy.

720
00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:10.000
Can you imagine that someone driving down
the street was that. Yeah, it's

721
00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:15.559
exactly what it was. Fuck is
that? And yeah? Yeah, wow,

722
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:19.159
yep, almost ran overy. But
yeah, that was that was a

723
00:53:19.239 --> 00:53:21.519
moment. That was a very interest. I had a job like that where

724
00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:24.559
we lost it was I think it
was seven people. It was five kids

725
00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:29.199
and two parents. And it wasn't
even two cents worth the fire. It

726
00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:32.840
was like a TV that was smoldering, like it was like some stupid thing

727
00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:39.039
that you know, the little fire
in like the TV stand set up.

728
00:53:39.199 --> 00:53:43.880
You know, it wasn't anything.
And I tell you right now, I

729
00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:46.800
took the girl out of that and
it was at the time to say she

730
00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:51.760
was about the same age as my
daughter. And I drove home that morning

731
00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:53.639
because we got it was in early
in the morning with his stomach. Oh

732
00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:58.599
my god, I couldn't even You
talk about some jobs that stick out to

733
00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:00.679
you, that was one that you
know to lose. And you know what

734
00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:06.519
screwed up was? I think it
was six kids. One of the boys

735
00:54:06.800 --> 00:54:09.280
was alive, like the guys brought
them back like, uh, there was

736
00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:12.559
kids all over the whole. It
was in the projects. It was kids

737
00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:15.480
all in the lobby and uh,
they were working on all the kids.

738
00:54:15.679 --> 00:54:19.760
And they had one that had you
know, when we were all standing there

739
00:54:19.760 --> 00:54:22.119
after the job, you know,
they had said that one they had got

740
00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:24.159
a pulse back on the kid.
And I was thinking to myself, is

741
00:54:24.199 --> 00:54:28.920
that good or bad? Like you
know what I mean, Like like holy

742
00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:30.960
shit, man, I mean,
do you even like what kind of I

743
00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:35.559
mean, you don't want to say
that, but it took a while for

744
00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:37.679
us to find those kids. And
then the mother had just, you know,

745
00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:42.280
everything disintegrating in the house, the
drywall, you know, the what

746
00:54:42.519 --> 00:54:45.840
was was plaster and all that,
and that was an old home, but

747
00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:51.239
everything was on top of them and
and it took a while to sift through

748
00:54:51.400 --> 00:54:58.159
what was material and what was you
know, children and a mother crazy night,

749
00:54:58.519 --> 00:55:00.480
kids unsee those things, Steve.
That's the nature of the job,

750
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:05.079
right, yeah, yeah, exactly. Could you answer me one question if

751
00:55:05.079 --> 00:55:07.639
one more guy throws up the pine
sol and a check in, what is

752
00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:10.239
the love of pine solt? Okay, here we go. I can't probably,

753
00:55:13.559 --> 00:55:17.679
baby, I'm very in my house. When I was twenty six truck

754
00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:22.039
I I lived and died when I
wanted to. I went to the firehouse

755
00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:25.000
clean. We got to live there
twenty four hours, and I wanted the

756
00:55:25.039 --> 00:55:30.280
firehouse clean. So my thing was
pine sal. Pine sal kills everything,

757
00:55:30.519 --> 00:55:34.840
you know, along with bleach,
and so I would always order cases of

758
00:55:34.880 --> 00:55:37.800
pine sal and make sure the guys
every morning, make sure you pintsal.

759
00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:40.639
Make sure you pine sal. We
scrub out on Saturdays, make sure you

760
00:55:40.719 --> 00:55:44.159
pine salt. You know, I
went to bathrooms. Make sure you pine

761
00:55:44.199 --> 00:55:46.280
sal everything with pine sal. And
if you're going to be remembered for one

762
00:55:46.320 --> 00:55:53.000
thing after thirty six years, it
might as well be pine sal, right,

763
00:55:53.679 --> 00:56:00.599
rubber or wine. The firehouse is
twenty six. Truck has been one

764
00:56:00.639 --> 00:56:05.000
hundred years old. He was nineteen
twenty five when it was built. But

765
00:56:05.079 --> 00:56:07.840
I tell you what for a hundred
year old fire ass, it's a clean

766
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:15.840
fireass. You got to live then
pine. So there you go. Yeah,

767
00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:20.199
before before we go crazy, did
you have a drive for has mat

768
00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:23.599
up there? I did not.
I want to make sure you were whind

769
00:56:23.599 --> 00:56:29.000
the wheel of this story. Hey, hey, god, what's going on?

770
00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:30.559
I don't know where that one video
that I sent you, the last

771
00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:35.880
video just uh put that up,
the one where he's working the tool and

772
00:56:36.039 --> 00:56:37.639
the uh somebody sent me that to
all right, give me a couple of

773
00:56:38.079 --> 00:56:40.519
yeah, yeah, yeah, when
you hit start your thing. Let me

774
00:56:40.840 --> 00:56:45.239
let's talk about the I eighty three
single car action. Yeah, that was

775
00:56:45.360 --> 00:56:47.679
one early two thousands, your lieutenant
truckle. That was crazy. Yes,

776
00:56:47.719 --> 00:56:50.800
So he was about you know,
in the middle of the night. It's

777
00:56:50.800 --> 00:56:53.480
probably about three in the morning.
The bars were were cut loose out of

778
00:56:53.920 --> 00:56:59.039
the Inner Harbor. So one of
the thoroughfares that folks used to get out

779
00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:01.920
of the city and get back up
to the county is eighty three. And

780
00:57:02.519 --> 00:57:07.000
so we get a call for a
single car accident up on eighty three,

781
00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:13.159
right around where Penn Station is up
on eighty three. So truck one crew

782
00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:16.920
we get out there. We're going
up eighty three and I see one police

783
00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:20.079
car. I'm like, all right, I'm thinking, okay, this signal

784
00:57:20.239 --> 00:57:22.599
be bad. I mean, I
see the car into the jersey wall.

785
00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:25.039
It was a jeep, like a
jeep wrangler, and I see it into

786
00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:28.760
the jersey wall. I'm thinking,
oh this, this think will be bad.

787
00:57:28.840 --> 00:57:30.920
We'll get you know, get them
at medics on its way, you

788
00:57:30.960 --> 00:57:32.679
know, we'll get to take care
of And I see you get cops standing

789
00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:36.400
out in the middle of eighty three, jumping and raise, you know,

790
00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:38.280
waving his hand frantically. I'm like, come on, it's a one car.

791
00:57:38.440 --> 00:57:43.679
What could be so bad about this? Right, So we parked the

792
00:57:43.719 --> 00:57:47.480
truck and I go over and it's
like, oh shit. So what happened

793
00:57:49.400 --> 00:57:54.760
was the jeep wrangler the driver veered
to the right and he went up on

794
00:57:54.840 --> 00:57:59.440
the jersey wall with the jeep Ryant
because it's you know, the big tire

795
00:57:59.480 --> 00:58:00.840
set of blow. So he was
able to go up on the jersey wall

796
00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:06.480
a little bit and he hit the
jersey wall and there's a fence on top

797
00:58:06.480 --> 00:58:09.400
of the jersey wall that separated eighty
three from Penn Station from the train tracks.

798
00:58:09.840 --> 00:58:14.960
So he hit that at an angle
to where the pipe that holds like

799
00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:19.039
the chain link fence. He caught
it at an angle to where it broke

800
00:58:19.239 --> 00:58:22.880
cleanly right at where the two connections
were. So the pipe, it was

801
00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:24.760
about I don't know, maybe a
two inch inch and a half pipe,

802
00:58:25.320 --> 00:58:30.960
went through the front windshield of the
geep. So his passenger is passed out

803
00:58:31.039 --> 00:58:36.599
in the front seat. The pipe
goes through the windshield, he goes into

804
00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:39.760
his mouth and then out the back
of his neck, and the pipe lodges

805
00:58:40.119 --> 00:58:45.199
in the rodcage or the rollbar that
the jeeps have in the back. So

806
00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:49.000
I's like, oh, ship,
and he's still breathing. There's still a

807
00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:58.000
lot Oh my god, something ship. So that I asked her to rescue

808
00:58:58.079 --> 00:59:02.719
right off the bat as for the
rescue real quick, and asked for you

809
00:59:02.760 --> 00:59:10.840
know, give me an ms officer
and then I I was gonna up the

810
00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:17.920
oxygen to the pole, but it's
going, So I asked for the go

811
00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:21.199
team. I don't know if you
guys had that New York City, but

812
00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:24.079
we have a uh it's a surgical
team on standby out of the trauma center.

813
00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:28.800
So when you get weird ship like
this, amputations things like this,

814
00:59:29.239 --> 00:59:32.039
trains people on trains on top of
people, they call the go team and

815
00:59:32.079 --> 00:59:37.639
they come out and do surgical procedures
and and get airways going. So so

816
00:59:37.719 --> 00:59:39.840
I called for the go team and
they said, oh, there's gonna be

817
00:59:39.840 --> 00:59:42.639
about a half hour, you know, And I'm like, ship, I

818
00:59:42.639 --> 00:59:45.519
don't think we have a half hour. So uh, the rescue got there.

819
00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:52.440
So we used as all and we
wind up cutting about right past the

820
00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:57.760
jawl line and then right behind the
neck. Uh. We did a cut

821
00:59:58.440 --> 01:00:01.079
from the bar and then we just
kept wrapping, you know, secured him,

822
01:00:01.599 --> 01:00:05.960
put him on the backboard, got
him down to Shot trauma. So

823
01:00:06.079 --> 01:00:09.239
we weally we wheel him into Shot
trauma, and so the shot trauma doctor

824
01:00:09.239 --> 01:00:13.000
and you know those guys they've seen
it all right, So we laid the

825
01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:15.559
guy who on the gurney. So
he's laying there and the shot trauma doctor

826
01:00:15.639 --> 01:00:19.079
comes up. You got team of
nurses, you got an steadiolog, just

827
01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:22.320
got everybody there, and he just
kind of like looks around, walks around

828
01:00:22.320 --> 01:00:24.920
the other side of the h The
stretcher goes around the other he goes hmm,

829
01:00:25.360 --> 01:00:30.280
and he takes this nice neatly wrapped
a bar that we that we did

830
01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:35.599
for this guy at the scene,
pulls it and just pulls it right out

831
01:00:35.599 --> 01:00:38.519
of his neck. Yeah. We're
thinking, oh my, just like that

832
01:00:38.639 --> 01:00:40.880
here, we're thinking, oh my
god, a sergeant to perceived this is

833
01:00:40.920 --> 01:00:44.199
gonna be hours in the ear,
you know all that. Now, he

834
01:00:44.360 --> 01:00:49.199
just went up and pulled him right
out of his living No, he died

835
01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:53.079
like three days later. Ship.
That was crazy. I could have done

836
01:00:53.119 --> 01:00:55.960
that, doc. That's what we
were all thinking. We all kind of

837
01:00:57.119 --> 01:01:00.400
you always say, never pull anything
out right, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

838
01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:02.280
so you know, we patched it
real good. But yeah, that

839
01:01:02.440 --> 01:01:07.199
was like a you know, one
of you saying you think it's routine and

840
01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:09.000
you you get there and it's like, wow, okay, here we go.

841
01:01:09.639 --> 01:01:13.079
Is a probably good chance that that
we hit a major artery in that

842
01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:15.960
area? Yeah, I mean they
pulled it out. I mean, even

843
01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:16.519
if you hit him in the neck. I mean, he's got to be

844
01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:20.880
paralyzed or something. It was.
It was really weird. Look, it

845
01:01:20.960 --> 01:01:22.920
was very it was. It was
it was haunting looking. It was weird.

846
01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:27.719
Yeah, like a horror show or
something. Oh oh, I remember

847
01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:34.039
this, you're right. So we
had are was about seven in the morning.

848
01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:37.119
I was a twenty six truck and
everybody come, yeah, dear.

849
01:01:37.239 --> 01:01:40.280
Somebody comes running up and says,
hey, there's a meer caught the fence,

850
01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:44.840
look at it. There we go
and uh so right up by the

851
01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:47.679
firehouse is Gordon style apartments up by
the firehouse. So, uh we go

852
01:01:47.840 --> 01:01:51.960
up there. We take a look
and it's like okay, So we brought

853
01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:55.480
the tool up, brought the matro
up. Yeah, and then we were

854
01:01:55.519 --> 01:02:00.400
able to spray and that was go
to move. Yeah, it's great kid

855
01:02:00.719 --> 01:02:01.760
kids. Get the head caught and
you don't know how to get the head

856
01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:05.360
in it, but the heads caught
the thing. The mantra was awesome.

857
01:02:05.480 --> 01:02:08.119
Manto is great. So we spread
it and and off the off the dear

858
01:02:08.440 --> 01:02:14.880
put yourself in for a metal good
job. He didn't know that I was

859
01:02:14.920 --> 01:02:20.280
on the other side in the woods. Did he did? You stop and

860
01:02:20.360 --> 01:02:23.199
look back at you. You know, it's funny you say that. At

861
01:02:23.239 --> 01:02:25.960
the time that we were trying to
get it was a fun. It was

862
01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:30.519
a new one. It was still
it was it was a fun. The

863
01:02:30.639 --> 01:02:37.440
mother was probably fifty feet away one, just straight at the woodline, staring

864
01:02:37.480 --> 01:02:42.960
and looking at us while we were
doing this. And then when her baby

865
01:02:43.079 --> 01:02:45.840
left, then they went off together. So yeah, so she kind of

866
01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:50.880
like waited there and it was kind
of good old woman fuzzy with that one.

867
01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:55.559
He's that woman fuzzy. He's like, mister get the old ship moment?

868
01:02:57.159 --> 01:03:00.840
How many? Yes? One?
Two? He's got one, two,

869
01:03:01.079 --> 01:03:05.760
three? I got three? Here
was there four? A whole bottom

870
01:03:05.760 --> 01:03:08.039
three? Now there's three, oh
ship moments. You ready? Rough,

871
01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:13.159
Yeah, I'm ready. Let's get
him. Let's get them. Steve reel

872
01:03:13.239 --> 01:03:15.960
me in. Set the whole thing
up. Steve a good storyteller. I

873
01:03:15.119 --> 01:03:21.920
like it. Do it? Which
one you want to do? The uh?

874
01:03:22.400 --> 01:03:24.880
Truck one and truck twenty nine?
Haven Street? Hey? Oh yeah,

875
01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:30.239
Haven Street and Baltimore Street. Yes, so we get Uh. We

876
01:03:30.320 --> 01:03:35.199
had multiple dwellings off uh and have
in Baltimore Street. I think we had

877
01:03:35.239 --> 01:03:39.079
like three dwellings off and we get
there, and you're starting to put a

878
01:03:39.199 --> 01:03:43.599
knocked down on the fire. So
I go to two doors, you know,

879
01:03:43.880 --> 01:03:47.880
yeah, two doors down, and
to do a search in the twellings

880
01:03:47.880 --> 01:03:52.679
on that side. I went by
myself and I get inside, and I

881
01:03:52.719 --> 01:03:55.920
get up to the second floor and
it smokes pretty thick. It's bank down

882
01:03:57.440 --> 01:04:00.920
and I get up there and they
got the whole place cut up in two

883
01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:04.880
apartments. So I start going along
and the battery on my leight goes out.

884
01:04:05.199 --> 01:04:10.079
Boom, there's one one thing right
there going I'm like shit, So

885
01:04:10.119 --> 01:04:13.159
all right, So now I'm feeling
around and everything kind of you know,

886
01:04:14.079 --> 01:04:15.639
becomes all right. Was I here, and you know, you get this

887
01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:20.360
orient and you got this oriented,
and so I was not getting panicky,

888
01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:23.239
but I was all concerned. I
said, all right, I'm not really

889
01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:26.280
moving anywhere. I feel like I'm
in the same place I was, you

890
01:04:26.360 --> 01:04:29.360
know, you know, thirty seconds
ago it was this orient wasn't I wasn't

891
01:04:29.400 --> 01:04:32.159
finding my way out. So I
kind of stepped back, took a few

892
01:04:32.280 --> 01:04:34.400
you know, took some are in
I had. I was on my bottle

893
01:04:34.800 --> 01:04:39.840
and I get on the I get
on the radio and I asked the battanion

894
01:04:39.920 --> 01:04:42.320
chief. I said, hey,
uh, just I'll let you know.

895
01:04:42.480 --> 01:04:45.599
I'm a two doors down up on
the second floor. Can you send somebody

896
01:04:45.719 --> 01:04:50.199
over to kind of helped me from
my way out? And uh, he

897
01:04:50.320 --> 01:04:55.639
said. The tank chief said,
Lieutenant, go ahead and activate your past

898
01:04:55.679 --> 01:05:00.599
device. So back then, the
past devices weren't in a raided in with

899
01:05:00.679 --> 01:05:02.719
the SCB as like they are now. Remember I think you might remember,

900
01:05:02.760 --> 01:05:06.480
they weren't cut It was on your
belt. It was on the cliff and

901
01:05:06.519 --> 01:05:11.119
it had like the pool thing and
it went off and if you motioned,

902
01:05:11.119 --> 01:05:14.719
if you stop moving for sixty seconds
whatever, it will go off. Well,

903
01:05:14.880 --> 01:05:18.119
as I was getting out of one
truck, it came off the no

904
01:05:18.840 --> 01:05:25.800
my god, So I didn't have
fucking past device. Lights Murphy man when

905
01:05:25.840 --> 01:05:29.440
he shows up, Man, he
shows up, I have no light.

906
01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:33.440
I look around, I'm going shift
and I get back on the radio.

907
01:05:33.480 --> 01:05:36.360
I said, I have no pass
device. And there was like a tool.

908
01:05:38.800 --> 01:05:41.039
There was there was a pause,
you know, and the chief and

909
01:05:41.119 --> 01:05:43.840
there was a old pause. He
said, we'll be able to find you.

910
01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:48.079
Hang tight and so yeah, banged
my tool. I did that and

911
01:05:48.239 --> 01:05:53.360
you know, created some noise and
uh and uh, my ev d Alex

912
01:05:53.440 --> 01:05:58.119
Darini. He was Uh, he
came and Joe Joe Miller, the first

913
01:05:58.159 --> 01:06:01.320
acting guy. They came up and
pull me out or you know, system

914
01:06:01.360 --> 01:06:05.000
me out and help me get out. Yeah, so uh, in case

915
01:06:05.039 --> 01:06:12.239
of beer or something after that.
Well, you know you said all these

916
01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:14.760
things, you know, the light
and then the past device. You're right,

917
01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:17.320
Murphy here he came, right,
don't we say all the time?

918
01:06:17.440 --> 01:06:24.320
Is like when you're get in that
situation, don't be too prideful that you

919
01:06:24.440 --> 01:06:28.400
know you don't want to wait,
Well, it's too far along where now

920
01:06:28.440 --> 01:06:31.599
you don't. Now you have no
choice because it's really getting shitty out,

921
01:06:31.639 --> 01:06:34.239
you know, And I'm looking at
the gauge from a bottom. I'm like,

922
01:06:34.320 --> 01:06:38.000
okay, y got time. You
know, that's a good way to

923
01:06:38.079 --> 01:06:41.719
do it. Hopefully some guys out
there they could you know, you could

924
01:06:41.760 --> 01:06:47.280
word it delicately like that, so
it doesn't sound like you're you got some

925
01:06:47.440 --> 01:06:56.280
time, but help get there,
get me out. You want to avenue

926
01:06:56.320 --> 01:07:00.280
or do you want to do Northeast
Baltimore fire? What was he knew?

927
01:07:00.280 --> 01:07:05.039
What was it? The Avenue North? The other one is Northeast Baltimore.

928
01:07:05.320 --> 01:07:10.480
That was Pineer Avenue. I was
at I was a twenty nine truck and

929
01:07:10.840 --> 01:07:15.960
uh we had a report of a
fire dwelling. It was a run home

930
01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:18.880
and it was into the group.
And it was that again two in the

931
01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:24.239
morning, one two in the morning
in the morning. Everything happened. Nothing

932
01:07:24.320 --> 01:07:28.920
happens good every morning. So we
get there. We got coming at the

933
01:07:28.960 --> 01:07:30.920
front door or the front door.
We had a forst entry where we have

934
01:07:31.000 --> 01:07:35.000
heavy smoke coming at the second floor, first floor, and uh, they

935
01:07:35.119 --> 01:07:40.639
confirmed that it was a they had
a basement fire. So I get four

936
01:07:40.679 --> 01:07:44.719
sm entry in. I got forty
three engine behind me with the line work,

937
01:07:44.800 --> 01:07:48.199
the work, the bar, get
the door open and start going in.

938
01:07:48.320 --> 01:07:53.599
I immediately start heading up to the
second floor, and I got guys

939
01:07:53.599 --> 01:07:57.599
strong ground ladders. I got my
driver throwing the aera ladder. So immediately

940
01:07:57.679 --> 01:08:00.000
start heading up to the second floor. It's two in the morning, whereas

941
01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:03.400
usually everybody at during the morning up
in the bedrooms. So I start heading

942
01:08:03.480 --> 01:08:06.719
up to the second floor and I
get up there and then forty three engine

943
01:08:06.719 --> 01:08:12.239
comes in behind me and I'm going
to start breaking off search the bedrooms,

944
01:08:12.920 --> 01:08:16.880
and I just feel this tremendous amount
of heat. I mean it was it's

945
01:08:16.960 --> 01:08:21.319
a tremendous amount of heat. And
I looked behind me from the stairway coming

946
01:08:21.439 --> 01:08:26.800
up you could just see that rolling
flame just coming up your you know,

947
01:08:26.880 --> 01:08:30.039
coming right up your ass. And
I've got forty three engineaire, I'm like,

948
01:08:30.159 --> 01:08:31.640
crack the line, cracked the line. But they cracked the line.

949
01:08:32.119 --> 01:08:38.760
No water, they had a dead
hydrant and Murphy again, Murphy again.

950
01:08:38.920 --> 01:08:43.960
So I'm like fuck, So it's
getting tremendously hot. So I turned around

951
01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:45.479
the guys with forty three engine.
I said, go go, go,

952
01:08:45.680 --> 01:08:48.560
get down, get down the stairs, go go go. So they went

953
01:08:48.600 --> 01:08:53.159
ahead and went down the stairs.
I was right behind them, like really

954
01:08:53.239 --> 01:08:56.760
fast, right behind them, and
we started heading back out towards the front

955
01:08:56.800 --> 01:09:00.399
door. And what had happened is
the first four collapsed into the basement,

956
01:09:01.119 --> 01:09:05.960
so that's where that tremendous amount of
heat got released as soon as the first

957
01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:11.520
floor collapsed in the basement from the
basement fire. So forty three engine gets

958
01:09:11.560 --> 01:09:15.119
out. So I'm coming in behind
him, coming going for the front door

959
01:09:15.159 --> 01:09:20.119
behind him. So the house was
a had all hardwood floors, so the

960
01:09:20.199 --> 01:09:25.600
shellac that they had on the floors
has now become liquid because of the heat.

961
01:09:26.119 --> 01:09:29.079
So I go to go out the
front door, I'm slipping. I

962
01:09:29.159 --> 01:09:31.000
can't get out the front door because
of the sillac on the floors. So

963
01:09:31.159 --> 01:09:34.239
now I'm falling down into the hole. I'm at the front door and I

964
01:09:35.119 --> 01:09:40.479
I'm actually going back. I'm falling
back down into the hole, and I'm

965
01:09:40.520 --> 01:09:45.720
like shit. So Chief Campbell was
Mike Campbell. He was the tank chief

966
01:09:45.880 --> 01:09:49.319
in the side a front of the
building and him and Wayne Brubeck for the

967
01:09:49.359 --> 01:09:54.960
four engine. They physically came in
and just reached in, grabbed my arm

968
01:09:55.479 --> 01:10:00.159
and just acting like and pulled me
out that step, which, oh,

969
01:10:02.760 --> 01:10:17.920
hold on a seconds. Ah,
there we go, you go. Look

970
01:10:18.000 --> 01:10:21.720
God is on his gate. Buddy's
leaving. My mind went back in.

971
01:10:21.960 --> 01:10:28.439
See God's good job. I didn't
know for it was time. I believe

972
01:10:28.840 --> 01:10:34.000
we're going like this, Steve going
like this. I guess he was holding

973
01:10:34.079 --> 01:10:39.439
you. Oh my god, I
was. And it was just having those

974
01:10:39.479 --> 01:10:41.880
guys. It was, you know, lucky that they were able to grab

975
01:10:41.960 --> 01:10:45.399
me before I stroll that in there
and couldn't find out the the folks were

976
01:10:45.479 --> 01:10:50.920
on vacation, so there was nobody
inside. Listen, we're making fun of

977
01:10:51.000 --> 01:10:55.159
that, but you know, when
you're when you're when you're dangling going into

978
01:10:55.239 --> 01:11:00.239
the basement. It's it's when when
you're slipping slide you were. It was

979
01:11:00.560 --> 01:11:08.680
the Sillac from the damn hardwood floors, and it was in fly Away and

980
01:11:08.760 --> 01:11:12.119
we had I think the same one. I had one twenty nine truck another

981
01:11:12.159 --> 01:11:15.319
one which one we talked about.
Don't these Ultimore fire Northeast Baltimore. That's

982
01:11:15.399 --> 01:11:19.079
uh you had like nine lives this
guy. But I tell you it was

983
01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:24.520
like I said, Murph short and
follow me around. And uh so we

984
01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:29.000
had fire in the middle of the
night and I get up, get forced

985
01:11:29.279 --> 01:11:31.520
entry. I go inside, and
I start going up to the second floor

986
01:11:31.640 --> 01:11:34.600
to my search. So I get
to break I break off to the left.

987
01:11:34.640 --> 01:11:39.800
I go into the bedroom to the
left and I start my search.

988
01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:43.560
Got my tool coming around, you
know, right hand to the wall,

989
01:11:43.640 --> 01:11:45.760
doing my search, and I'm coming
around, coming to the front door so

990
01:11:45.800 --> 01:11:48.880
I could go to the next bedroom. And I searched the bed, under

991
01:11:48.920 --> 01:11:53.159
the bed, all that stuff and
smoke. You can't you can't see anything,

992
01:11:53.640 --> 01:11:58.720
and everything's by field, and uh
so I get around and I'm sure

993
01:11:58.760 --> 01:12:00.920
I'm going around this room a long
time. You know. He was like

994
01:12:01.000 --> 01:12:03.439
God, damn. The front door
was rap. The door was right there.

995
01:12:03.920 --> 01:12:06.720
So I go around again, no
door. I'm like, shit,

996
01:12:08.479 --> 01:12:10.279
I can't get my way out of
here. Where the hell did the door

997
01:12:10.399 --> 01:12:15.239
go? So my first acting man, Aaron Edwards, so I kind of

998
01:12:15.279 --> 01:12:19.039
called him, like nonchalantantly on the
radio. I said, hey, yeah,

999
01:12:19.600 --> 01:12:23.279
can you come up on the second
floor? Man, get me right.

1000
01:12:23.800 --> 01:12:27.680
So he comes up on the second
floor and you know, I'm banging

1001
01:12:27.760 --> 01:12:30.039
my tool and he comes in.
He's able to. He got the door

1002
01:12:30.239 --> 01:12:34.560
and came in, and then after
we got out, got the scene cleared

1003
01:12:34.640 --> 01:12:39.960
up. What had happened was when
I went into that bedroom, there was

1004
01:12:40.039 --> 01:12:45.079
a forty five pound weight bar bench
bar that was in the corner of the

1005
01:12:45.199 --> 01:12:49.880
room. So when I went around
and did my search, that bar fell

1006
01:12:49.920 --> 01:12:57.159
against the door and shut the door. So I couldn't from a way out

1007
01:12:57.279 --> 01:13:00.319
because that door became shut from the
bar, And of course, you know

1008
01:13:00.399 --> 01:13:01.880
you can't see anything from you.
I'm looking for the window, trying to

1009
01:13:01.920 --> 01:13:05.760
open the window up with my tool, and uh yeah, So that was

1010
01:13:05.840 --> 01:13:14.840
another yeah, thanks fucking got murdered. The whole idea is he didn't wait

1011
01:13:15.039 --> 01:13:17.800
until it was really getting to the
point where it's too late. Yeah,

1012
01:13:17.880 --> 01:13:21.560
that's the key. Yeah, yeah, and you know it. I used

1013
01:13:21.560 --> 01:13:25.520
to say every once in a while
I was in a pickle, I'd be

1014
01:13:25.680 --> 01:13:29.159
like, Freddy, where are you
or whatever? You know, get your

1015
01:13:29.239 --> 01:13:31.239
ass up the scream. Didn't want
to make a big deal. Yeah,

1016
01:13:31.560 --> 01:13:34.439
Aaron, I know, Aaron was
close by. I know he's plenty of

1017
01:13:34.520 --> 01:13:38.840
time to scream. We have plenty
of time to scream. Steve, what

1018
01:13:39.039 --> 01:13:42.319
is this? And after all those
close calls of fires an old watch deest

1019
01:13:42.399 --> 01:13:45.479
that took him out of thee thirty
six out at thirty Oh yeah, oh

1020
01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:49.479
my god, yes, so I
get uh. So when they went to

1021
01:13:49.600 --> 01:13:53.319
this twenty four hour shift, twenty
four and twenty four off twenty four,

1022
01:13:53.600 --> 01:13:57.680
so they came up with this what
they're called impact days. Have you heard

1023
01:13:57.680 --> 01:14:00.520
of them? So they do him
like Houston's. So since you get that

1024
01:14:00.680 --> 01:14:04.560
five days off, they wanted to
make up those hours the city does,

1025
01:14:04.680 --> 01:14:10.439
so they schedule you. You basically
worked free to get your hours back up

1026
01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:13.359
to a full ninety six hour work
week in a two week period. So

1027
01:14:13.720 --> 01:14:15.680
they put an extra day in each
month, so it was a it was

1028
01:14:15.680 --> 01:14:18.920
an impact day. So it was
at thirty six engine on West Baltimore.

1029
01:14:19.439 --> 01:14:24.199
I'm not familiar at all with it. I don't even think I was even

1030
01:14:24.279 --> 01:14:27.119
station there at all. Was a
fireman. So I get there and we

1031
01:14:27.199 --> 01:14:31.279
had a call and I get back. It was a car accident. I'm

1032
01:14:31.279 --> 01:14:35.079
gonna turn out pants and everything on. And I step off and there was

1033
01:14:35.159 --> 01:14:43.239
a a an old old watch desk, so I had the old concrete floor

1034
01:14:43.359 --> 01:14:45.359
that was there, but the watch
desk was since gone. The walls and

1035
01:14:46.199 --> 01:14:49.159
you know everything else that went with
it. So I step off the wagon

1036
01:14:49.560 --> 01:14:58.800
and down I went. I cut
down crazy and I got up and I

1037
01:14:58.880 --> 01:15:00.960
was like, and I went to
move my shoulder, and I went,

1038
01:15:00.319 --> 01:15:04.159
that ain't happening. Ain't happening.
And uh he had tour rotator cup,

1039
01:15:04.640 --> 01:15:09.680
tour rot cuff. You guys,
slip slide on your thane lacker. That

1040
01:15:09.800 --> 01:15:14.079
doesn't do nothing. Tour to watch
that that does it? Bro. It

1041
01:15:14.239 --> 01:15:21.319
was probably pine sole on the floor, so probably put how much slacker did

1042
01:15:21.359 --> 01:15:27.319
you put on that thing? That
was a hell. I'll tell you what

1043
01:15:27.439 --> 01:15:30.439
that's that's a hell of an injury, pulling, tearing your rodtar. I

1044
01:15:30.560 --> 01:15:35.479
had that. That's what I had. Yeah, rot partial, I had

1045
01:15:35.520 --> 01:15:40.880
a partial and a labor that sucks. Man, it's probably ten months loom

1046
01:15:40.960 --> 01:15:43.880
something like that. Oh yeah,
oh, no doubt about it. It

1047
01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:46.520
was a year that was finally did
you in. No, you know,

1048
01:15:46.520 --> 01:15:50.239
I recovered from it and the back. Yeah, I went back. Yeah,

1049
01:15:50.279 --> 01:15:53.239
I was. I was cool.
You know, I had kids in

1050
01:15:53.279 --> 01:15:55.760
college. It was like, okay, you know, I gotta I gotta

1051
01:15:55.800 --> 01:15:59.159
get back, you know. And
uh so I made it back and it

1052
01:15:59.279 --> 01:16:06.199
was good, real good that somebody
on the end of the career. No

1053
01:16:06.279 --> 01:16:11.119
one is that. The latter forty
nine was while I was a truck one

1054
01:16:11.239 --> 01:16:18.560
is lieutenant. All right, good, so you're good. So Hollywood came

1055
01:16:18.600 --> 01:16:26.479
to Baltimore and we had John Travolta, We had Joaquin Phoenix, we had

1056
01:16:26.520 --> 01:16:29.720
Tim Guinea, and we had a
couple of whoa, whoa, whoa was

1057
01:16:29.880 --> 01:16:32.479
Guinea? What t Guinea? It
was Guinea. He was one of the

1058
01:16:32.600 --> 01:16:36.600
actors. He actually was played the
character of the captain went to Bolt to

1059
01:16:36.640 --> 01:16:42.439
me chief, so so we uh
they they brought the crew to Hollywood crew.

1060
01:16:42.560 --> 01:16:45.439
They brought him in and they had
like Joaquin and a couple of other

1061
01:16:45.520 --> 01:16:48.640
extras like Tim Guine and all that
go through the fire Academy kind of getting,

1062
01:16:48.640 --> 01:16:50.960
you know, wearing an s c
B A because they were going to

1063
01:16:50.960 --> 01:16:56.680
be wearing s cb as while they
were filming. And so they put Joaquin

1064
01:16:56.840 --> 01:17:01.039
with ten truck and they put Tim
Ginn with us at one truck to ride

1065
01:17:01.119 --> 01:17:04.600
as you know, get some experience, you know, get some firefighting experience,

1066
01:17:04.760 --> 01:17:11.159
see how it's done real real time. And so one night, Tim

1067
01:17:11.239 --> 01:17:14.479
Guiney or not Tim Guiney, Joaquin
was going to ride with one truck.

1068
01:17:14.920 --> 01:17:16.800
So he stayed for like a half
hour, and it was about seven o'clock

1069
01:17:16.800 --> 01:17:19.159
at night and he's like, nah, I'm going back. So they stayed

1070
01:17:19.159 --> 01:17:24.199
at the Marriotte Inner Harbors where they
ever put up. So Tim Guinny,

1071
01:17:24.239 --> 01:17:26.159
the one actors, said I'm staying
with you, Steve. You know,

1072
01:17:26.199 --> 01:17:30.279
We'll stayed the whole night. So
about midnight, we we catch a fire

1073
01:17:30.359 --> 01:17:34.560
up off of Greenmount Avenue and we
wound up pulling like two or three people

1074
01:17:34.640 --> 01:17:40.039
out of that house. And Tim
Guinny, the guy that was the actor,

1075
01:17:40.600 --> 01:17:43.680
he woind up helping us pull people
out. It was it was pretty

1076
01:17:43.800 --> 01:17:45.960
pretty weird. So you know,
of course whya Que misses this. You

1077
01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:49.039
know, he's at his hotel room
all snuggled and you know whatever. So

1078
01:17:49.800 --> 01:17:53.279
we we get downe to fire.
We clear a fire scene. So I

1079
01:17:53.319 --> 01:17:55.920
said, you know what, let's
ride down to the Marriotte in a harbor.

1080
01:17:56.359 --> 01:17:59.800
So it's about like smoke like smoke. So we go back two three

1081
01:17:59.840 --> 01:18:02.039
to morning. We go down to
the Marriotte into harbor. Waquen's up on

1082
01:18:02.119 --> 01:18:05.319
the tenth floor and so we bang
on the door. We kept our turn

1083
01:18:05.399 --> 01:18:10.239
at gear on. So he opens
up the door and uh we go in

1084
01:18:10.319 --> 01:18:13.600
and tackling, and you know,
told him what you know, how much

1085
01:18:13.640 --> 01:18:23.000
you miss you basically smelled my ship
and he missed a rescue and uh yeah,

1086
01:18:23.159 --> 01:18:25.680
yeah, I mean that's a that's
some job to miss. Holy ship.

1087
01:18:26.520 --> 01:18:30.119
His face, it was great.
It was good time. It was

1088
01:18:30.119 --> 01:18:31.479
a good time. How was How
was John Travolta? Guys want to know

1089
01:18:31.560 --> 01:18:35.279
how John Travolta was? Man,
He was great. John Travolta was great.

1090
01:18:35.680 --> 01:18:42.680
He very He was great with everybody, very you know friendly. Uh

1091
01:18:43.199 --> 01:18:45.319
wasn't snobbish at all. You know, want to know about everybody, like,

1092
01:18:45.439 --> 01:18:47.560
you know, hey, I many
kids, you got your personal life,

1093
01:18:47.720 --> 01:18:50.000
how long you've been doing the job, you know? He uh,

1094
01:18:50.439 --> 01:18:55.079
he was great, He was really
really good and enjoyed, enjoyed being around

1095
01:18:55.159 --> 01:18:59.840
him. What the firets did they
film that? Out of thirty three and

1096
01:19:00.239 --> 01:19:03.399
which was on Gorsage Avenue. It's
now closed down, but I actually was

1097
01:19:03.479 --> 01:19:08.319
closed down. Why they were using
They used that closed firehouse as the uh

1098
01:19:08.640 --> 01:19:12.640
as their prop. So they had
construction crews go in, get the firehouse

1099
01:19:12.720 --> 01:19:15.039
up, you know, get it
to where they could film and uh yeah,

1100
01:19:15.359 --> 01:19:18.600
so that was where they filmed it
out. I saw that movie once

1101
01:19:18.680 --> 01:19:23.760
or twice. I gotta watch that
movie again. Yeahs, don't you don't

1102
01:19:23.800 --> 01:19:27.159
have a cameo in there, do
you, Steve No. It's one of

1103
01:19:27.239 --> 01:19:30.159
the big the big scene they had
down at the the Inner Harbor with the

1104
01:19:30.600 --> 01:19:35.640
the the green silo on fire.
They had guys like us running in and

1105
01:19:35.720 --> 01:19:39.920
out the scene. You got paid
over time. And let me tell you,

1106
01:19:39.960 --> 01:19:43.720
guys, they fed you well.
The caterers that come from these Hollywood

1107
01:19:43.920 --> 01:19:50.279
uh movie sets. I mean they
they feed eighteen wheels there. I mean,

1108
01:19:50.319 --> 01:19:53.920
whatever you want to stay, shrimp, lobster. I mean it was

1109
01:19:54.000 --> 01:19:57.239
like, whatever you want, and
they paid you well a lot over time.

1110
01:19:57.880 --> 01:20:00.239
On over time. It was good. You know how many times,

1111
01:20:00.279 --> 01:20:03.439
how many opportunities you get a chance
to do something like that, so not

1112
01:20:03.560 --> 01:20:06.920
too often, but a movie like
that that was pretty iconic too. I

1113
01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:10.960
mean that's up. Yeah, you
know, I mean, yeah, a

1114
01:20:11.119 --> 01:20:14.520
good movie, very good. So
yeah, way quin he was. He

1115
01:20:14.600 --> 01:20:16.199
was a good guy. And you
know, all the actors were great,

1116
01:20:16.439 --> 01:20:19.760
great with us. They showed a
lot of appreciation when they left. And

1117
01:20:20.119 --> 01:20:23.399
uh so it was it was good. It was good for the city,

1118
01:20:23.640 --> 01:20:28.159
good for the fireman, and good
for Hollidwood. So that's two things.

1119
01:20:28.199 --> 01:20:30.279
You gotta watch that. Watch that
again at forty nine. And we got

1120
01:20:30.399 --> 01:20:33.680
to watch him on the year was
that two thousand and four? I don't

1121
01:20:33.680 --> 01:20:38.960
even know it. Yeah, it
was after nine to eleven, I think.

1122
01:20:39.439 --> 01:20:47.279
Yeah. One another picture. Gosh, where's that picture with the no

1123
01:20:47.439 --> 01:20:54.079
shirt? Where's that picture? Whoa
look at Steve's face. He's like a

1124
01:20:54.319 --> 01:20:58.800
ship. There's a lot of little
birds. Steve sending me stuff. I

1125
01:20:58.840 --> 01:21:08.880
gotta tell you. With the ovenproproved, I am, I am the other

1126
01:21:09.000 --> 01:21:13.399
clean. My house is very clean, guys, I wouldn't say so.

1127
01:21:13.640 --> 01:21:16.600
Man. Yeah, no judgment here, but why just just gonna throw this

1128
01:21:16.680 --> 01:21:20.359
out the white cleaning with no shirt
on? Just I'm curious. It was

1129
01:21:20.399 --> 01:21:26.439
hot. I'm going to say it
was hot. Yes, Hey, you

1130
01:21:26.479 --> 01:21:30.399
know that guy that's sitting down,
he doesn't look like he has any interest

1131
01:21:30.479 --> 01:21:42.239
in looking at that stuff. Steak
coming out of it. Yes, I

1132
01:21:42.359 --> 01:21:45.279
was gonna say so, but he
might know. Yeah yeah, yeah.

1133
01:21:45.560 --> 01:21:51.279
One other pictures that I have guns. What was that from moving a car

1134
01:21:51.359 --> 01:21:56.359
from the scene in an accident and
they were tied up and we had to

1135
01:21:56.399 --> 01:21:59.720
get the medic unit in there,
parked on a hydrant. Again, I

1136
01:21:59.760 --> 01:22:01.279
said, hey, you know,
give me your keys on move before the

1137
01:22:02.880 --> 01:22:05.960
wanted you wanted to feel how it
felt for a second. Yeah, let

1138
01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:13.119
me just give the guys grid out
of his face. He smiled away.

1139
01:22:13.439 --> 01:22:16.479
Topological indicator right there. Yeah,
you got more. Yeah, I got

1140
01:22:16.520 --> 01:22:20.439
this one. Ah. There's my
man right there, that Jason Stevens.

1141
01:22:20.479 --> 01:22:25.359
He's he he grew up in the
Bronx. He's uh, he's a lieutenant

1142
01:22:25.640 --> 01:22:30.359
in Barniber City. He grew up
in what's that Highview Towers? Is that

1143
01:22:30.439 --> 01:22:36.079
so right off of the university and
in the Bronx. Yeah, he uh.

1144
01:22:36.479 --> 01:22:41.920
He came to Baltimore when he was
about twenty and he was my first

1145
01:22:41.960 --> 01:22:44.279
actor. That great guy. You
know, I love him like a brother.

1146
01:22:44.479 --> 01:22:47.479
He's uh studied hard. He made
lieutenant little over a year ago and

1147
01:22:47.680 --> 01:22:51.920
he was a fifty two engine and
then uh, we kind of timed my

1148
01:22:53.199 --> 01:22:57.319
retirement to where he had a year
in grade at fifty two engine as a

1149
01:22:57.359 --> 01:23:02.399
lieutenant because he wanted to come back
to truck twenty six, and I timed

1150
01:23:02.439 --> 01:23:08.079
it to where his year came in
and then I left and he came at

1151
01:23:08.119 --> 01:23:11.439
the spot. Yeah, I tell
you what there is that is a great

1152
01:23:11.479 --> 01:23:15.159
fireman right there. The guy's diamond
class and they don't make them any better.

1153
01:23:15.279 --> 01:23:18.359
Now, look at that definitely there
roughie, I've seen a couple of

1154
01:23:19.479 --> 01:23:23.720
ye there's a two that twenty six. Well that's you know what I wanted

1155
01:23:23.760 --> 01:23:28.159
to talk. So just uh after
you you got we're in truck one as

1156
01:23:28.199 --> 01:23:32.199
lieutenant for seven years. You went
back to twenty nine truck where you were

1157
01:23:32.560 --> 01:23:35.560
where you first got on the job. What was that like? It was

1158
01:23:35.640 --> 01:23:39.880
good, it was you know,
going back as an officer. Of course,

1159
01:23:39.960 --> 01:23:43.000
nobody was there, you know when
I was, it was a fireman.

1160
01:23:43.319 --> 01:23:45.279
So it was good. It was
good to get back there. And

1161
01:23:45.000 --> 01:23:47.359
that's because they were still in grammar
school when you were five and there.

1162
01:23:47.439 --> 01:23:53.600
Yeah, exactly. I te you're
older. I'm just telling you. I'm

1163
01:23:53.640 --> 01:23:57.520
not saying thirty six years. There
was a good friend of mine who was

1164
01:23:57.520 --> 01:24:00.520
a captain there, Captain Gregory.
He's a tank chief now, but Captain

1165
01:24:00.520 --> 01:24:02.439
Gregory was a captain thereon. He
was a good friend of mine and they

1166
01:24:02.479 --> 01:24:06.039
had a spot come open and he, uh, you know, he asked

1167
01:24:06.079 --> 01:24:09.479
me, said, hey, you
interested about coming back up here? And

1168
01:24:09.520 --> 01:24:11.600
I was like, yeah, sure, I'll come back up you know.

1169
01:24:11.920 --> 01:24:15.640
And uh so it was good and
that's you know, spent spent many years.

1170
01:24:15.680 --> 01:24:18.560
There's wear a lot of couple of
these incidents with the uh the the

1171
01:24:18.640 --> 01:24:23.199
old ship moments. Uh yeah,
there it was good house. It was

1172
01:24:23.199 --> 01:24:26.399
a very good house. So why
did you transfer to twenty sixth then?

1173
01:24:26.399 --> 01:24:29.399
Because he finished from sixteenth to twenty
three, which is a decent amount of

1174
01:24:29.479 --> 01:24:33.800
time. And in twenty sixth truck
twenty six truck, it was uh something

1175
01:24:33.840 --> 01:24:36.239
different. It was a straight truck. It wasn't a tiller truck. It

1176
01:24:36.319 --> 01:24:40.520
was a straight truck. So he
had kind of like everybody up front,

1177
01:24:40.600 --> 01:24:43.720
two guys on the step and then
your your officer, and then your driver

1178
01:24:44.319 --> 01:24:48.000
and uh they were getting a brand
new truck and had an opportunity there and

1179
01:24:48.640 --> 01:24:51.199
you know, go a little bit
further east, a little bit closer to

1180
01:24:51.279 --> 01:24:56.560
home, you know, coming off
ninety five and uh so, yeah,

1181
01:24:56.920 --> 01:24:58.960
so it worked at you know,
be a little bit closer to home.

1182
01:24:59.000 --> 01:25:00.880
So it worked out good. I
knew at that point that was going to

1183
01:25:00.960 --> 01:25:06.000
be my fine. It was a
Swan song. Twenty six was going to

1184
01:25:06.039 --> 01:25:09.680
be the swansong. Twenty six was
going to be Swan. Good guys,

1185
01:25:09.760 --> 01:25:15.039
great guys. I gotta tell you, they treated me well. We had

1186
01:25:15.159 --> 01:25:19.119
a great cruise, good fireman,
Captain Burgette, uh you know, great

1187
01:25:19.199 --> 01:25:24.159
fireman. Just you know, everybody
there. I had had a I was

1188
01:25:24.279 --> 01:25:28.479
very fortunate to work with great fireman
like I did throughout my career. And

1189
01:25:28.800 --> 01:25:30.439
what made you want to pack it
in then, Steve? You know,

1190
01:25:30.920 --> 01:25:35.239
the kids were finished college. It
was thirty six years and I was turned

1191
01:25:35.239 --> 01:25:40.560
at sixty, and it was a
good time to die. It was it

1192
01:25:40.640 --> 01:25:44.640
was hard, you know what I
mean. Everybody always time they say that,

1193
01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:47.159
you know, if I would if
I would have stayed like another year,

1194
01:25:47.279 --> 01:25:50.199
year and a half, it would
have made maybe forty five hours different.

1195
01:25:50.239 --> 01:25:54.079
So when on your pension each month
it wasn't a whole lot, you

1196
01:25:54.159 --> 01:25:56.560
know, and uh, you know, it was trying to do something.

1197
01:25:56.560 --> 01:26:00.399
It was time to start that next
chapter of my life. And my wife

1198
01:26:00.560 --> 01:26:04.199
was like, you know what,
you pulled the tiger's tail a lot of

1199
01:26:04.279 --> 01:26:13.079
times and yeah, yeah, man, hell yeah again. Yes, now

1200
01:26:13.159 --> 01:26:15.520
you get up, you make breakfast
for the wife. And yeah, that

1201
01:26:15.720 --> 01:26:21.960
lasted, guys, I gotta tell
that lasted about two weeks. I would

1202
01:26:23.640 --> 01:26:30.880
so I would get there and uh, I would get there and and she

1203
01:26:30.039 --> 01:26:32.479
my wife works out of the house. She's a nurse, and so she

1204
01:26:32.600 --> 01:26:34.920
has an office here set up in
the house. So you know, I

1205
01:26:34.920 --> 01:26:38.800
would get up in the morning knocking
the door, Hey what you doing,

1206
01:26:39.000 --> 01:26:41.479
and she would look at me a
glass and drop down. I'm working.

1207
01:26:47.520 --> 01:26:51.720
About two hours later knocking the door, Hey what you're doing. You want

1208
01:26:51.760 --> 01:26:55.680
to get coffee? She's like,
no, I'm working. I'm like,

1209
01:26:55.920 --> 01:26:59.680
damn. So about the second third
day into that, she goes, you

1210
01:26:59.760 --> 01:27:03.159
got a job, you got different, you know. And so I had

1211
01:27:03.199 --> 01:27:06.640
a great I had a great opportunity. Guys, all kindside. I had

1212
01:27:06.680 --> 01:27:11.399
a great opportunity. There is a
you went back to the supermarket, No,

1213
01:27:11.640 --> 01:27:15.159
didn't. I wind up? I
wind up. Had a couple of

1214
01:27:15.199 --> 01:27:20.079
guys approached me that that worked for
Harbor of Grace. We called home.

1215
01:27:20.079 --> 01:27:25.239
It's called Harbor Grace. What it
is, it's a wellness recovery center for

1216
01:27:25.640 --> 01:27:31.399
police and fire and UH first responders. And it was, uh, it

1217
01:27:31.520 --> 01:27:35.920
was a great opportunity for me to
go there and you know works and I

1218
01:27:36.039 --> 01:27:39.319
kind of, you know, I
said to the owner Ken, I was

1219
01:27:39.399 --> 01:27:42.079
like, you know, what what
could I you know, possibly add here?

1220
01:27:42.239 --> 01:27:44.279
You know, you know what could
I do? And he said,

1221
01:27:44.279 --> 01:27:47.159
Steve, all your time that you've
had in the fire department, all the

1222
01:27:47.279 --> 01:27:53.079
situations you've been in, and and
the way you dealt with different circumstances and

1223
01:27:56.880 --> 01:27:59.640
events in your life, you know, you can help these young guys out

1224
01:28:00.119 --> 01:28:02.399
know, and any older guys that
come through here and uh, you know

1225
01:28:02.479 --> 01:28:06.239
that need help, you know,
navigating their way through. And so I

1226
01:28:06.319 --> 01:28:11.640
got a great opportunity. It's the
place is awesome. It's a Harbor Grayson.

1227
01:28:11.680 --> 01:28:15.399
It's a wellness center and it's uh. People come from all over the

1228
01:28:15.439 --> 01:28:18.520
country to uh to come there,
and uh it's it's a great place.

1229
01:28:18.560 --> 01:28:23.159
And I'm very fortunate. Yeah,
it is. I'm about three days a

1230
01:28:23.199 --> 01:28:26.720
week, so it's good time.
Yea on yourself. Yeah, right,

1231
01:28:26.840 --> 01:28:30.840
exactly, it's nice. It's it's
good time. And uh you torture and

1232
01:28:30.880 --> 01:28:32.439
your wife. So no, no, no, I'm up out of half.

1233
01:28:32.720 --> 01:28:38.199
I'm not knocking on the door.
And uh oh Jonathan right here he

1234
01:28:38.359 --> 01:28:41.239
is, Okay, you had you
had to grab your last day, my

1235
01:28:41.439 --> 01:28:47.439
last day. Isn't that something?
It's like, what holy ship you forgot

1236
01:28:47.479 --> 01:28:51.960
about that? He's like, yeah, oh yeah, a couple of grabs.

1237
01:28:53.159 --> 01:28:55.760
You can't you can't write this ship. I'm telling you can't write that

1238
01:28:55.920 --> 01:28:59.800
up. That's incredible. So it
was my last day, I mean my

1239
01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:02.520
physically, I am retiring, my
last day. You know, they're talking

1240
01:29:02.520 --> 01:29:05.159
about having a dinner for me that
night. Well they were having a dinner

1241
01:29:05.199 --> 01:29:12.840
for you that night, so so
they they they, So we get about

1242
01:29:12.880 --> 01:29:15.000
six thirty in the morning, seven
o'clock in the morning, we get a

1243
01:29:15.399 --> 01:29:19.359
call for an apartment fire up off
of Sinclair Lane. And as we were

1244
01:29:19.399 --> 01:29:23.319
going up the road, you know, communication comes back and says, you

1245
01:29:23.359 --> 01:29:26.119
know, companies b vised, we
got poor to people trapped. I'm like,

1246
01:29:26.119 --> 01:29:28.199
all right, so you know,
lean over the guys in the back,

1247
01:29:28.239 --> 01:29:30.960
I said, guys, we've got
people trapped, you know, you

1248
01:29:30.039 --> 01:29:32.520
know, have a shit ready,
you know, we got people trapped.

1249
01:29:32.920 --> 01:29:39.000
And so we get there and it's
a three story guarden apartment and we pull

1250
01:29:39.119 --> 01:29:42.960
up. We don't see much from
the front at all, so we make

1251
01:29:43.000 --> 01:29:45.600
it up to the second floor.
We kicked the door into the second floor

1252
01:29:45.600 --> 01:29:50.000
apartment and a lot of a lot
of smoke, not a lot of fire,

1253
01:29:50.000 --> 01:29:55.399
a lot of smoke, some heat
coming out of the the kitchen area.

1254
01:29:55.960 --> 01:29:59.439
So I'm prowing in and I see
a pair of feet and we had

1255
01:29:59.479 --> 01:30:02.600
truck third He was in there as
well. Uh Sampson. John Sampson from

1256
01:30:02.640 --> 01:30:05.960
truck thirty UH got in there with
me. Actually he got He was the

1257
01:30:06.000 --> 01:30:09.880
first one to get in, so
he crawled in. I crawled in behind

1258
01:30:10.000 --> 01:30:13.680
him, and you see these pair
of feet hanging out the uh the kitchen

1259
01:30:13.760 --> 01:30:15.720
area, and so he's down.
I was like shit, and John's hollering,

1260
01:30:16.000 --> 01:30:18.079
you know, the attendant's over here, is over here. So we

1261
01:30:18.199 --> 01:30:21.600
go to pooling. John picks him
up from behind. I get him from

1262
01:30:23.119 --> 01:30:26.640
you know, underneath the uh you
know, his knees. John picks him

1263
01:30:26.720 --> 01:30:30.760
up from the uh from the front, and his skin just keeps calling up,

1264
01:30:30.800 --> 01:30:32.199
coming off in John's hands, and
I mean he was you know that

1265
01:30:32.319 --> 01:30:35.079
kind of burn. He's picking him
up again, drop him again, pick

1266
01:30:35.159 --> 01:30:41.079
him again. So finally we just
drugging over to the uh the uh the

1267
01:30:41.159 --> 01:30:45.159
apartment door, and then uh,
Lieutenant Hagley, Vince Hagley helped us grab

1268
01:30:45.319 --> 01:30:47.119
him down. We took him down
to the front lawn. He was not

1269
01:30:47.279 --> 01:30:51.960
breathing, so we started bagging and
we brought him back and the medic unit

1270
01:30:53.119 --> 01:30:56.279
got him and uh we had him
breathing all the way to the hospital.

1271
01:30:56.399 --> 01:30:59.399
So, yeah, it was grabbed
my last day. Crazy, you guys

1272
01:31:00.359 --> 01:31:05.239
es, No, he was I
think he was seventy two years old,

1273
01:31:06.359 --> 01:31:13.119
and his whole upper body he had
probably a lot of inholation burns. And

1274
01:31:13.279 --> 01:31:16.039
he was third degree. I mean
he was thirty. You guys get the

1275
01:31:16.159 --> 01:31:20.000
metals for when you make grabs or
you guys write each other up. It

1276
01:31:20.079 --> 01:31:25.680
all depends on the chief, you
know. Sometimes they do, sometimes they

1277
01:31:25.760 --> 01:31:28.000
don't, you know, most of
the time they do. I'm not sure

1278
01:31:28.119 --> 01:31:30.560
on this one. You know,
again, it was my last day,

1279
01:31:30.920 --> 01:31:33.239
so I guess I'll find out,
you know, when they announced metals day.

1280
01:31:34.079 --> 01:31:39.079
But yeah, whatever, you know, it's all good and uh no,

1281
01:31:39.279 --> 01:31:43.720
we had last day, grab crazy, make that ship up and went

1282
01:31:43.760 --> 01:31:46.319
back and you had some shrimp palms
and a couple of tails, right,

1283
01:31:46.560 --> 01:31:50.560
yes, yeah, they had.
I'm a steak spaghetti guy loves spaghetti.

1284
01:31:51.960 --> 01:31:57.119
They had a spaghetti dinner for me, and uh had invited my family down

1285
01:31:57.640 --> 01:32:00.439
and there was probably guys, I'll
say probably that fifty sixty people showed up

1286
01:32:00.479 --> 01:32:04.399
the fire house at night. Again. Captain Burkette the cat in there.

1287
01:32:04.479 --> 01:32:09.680
He he really put on a show
for me and all the guys there.

1288
01:32:09.880 --> 01:32:14.479
And I was very far. I'm
very fortunate to work with such a great

1289
01:32:14.560 --> 01:32:19.640
crew. And yeah, very very
fortunate, Sean to have you on the

1290
01:32:19.680 --> 01:32:24.800
show here, fella. It was
a great Korea. It's a good time.

1291
01:32:24.880 --> 01:32:27.319
But you know, you learned,
like I said, you learned a

1292
01:32:27.399 --> 01:32:32.640
lot of things on the way.
I can tell you a story where I

1293
01:32:32.760 --> 01:32:36.119
was a sixteen truck and you know, just going showing you know some of

1294
01:32:36.159 --> 01:32:41.359
the the older you know chiefs,
the older guys that were around when I

1295
01:32:41.520 --> 01:32:45.560
was, you know, learning the
job. That kind of you know,

1296
01:32:45.680 --> 01:32:47.239
kind of brought me along. We
had a chief Maritz, Mike Maritz,

1297
01:32:47.840 --> 01:32:53.359
and we had a report of a
fire on riggs Avenue and Kerry Street.

1298
01:32:53.680 --> 01:32:56.319
So we get there to wind up
being a pot of food. So I

1299
01:32:56.399 --> 01:32:58.680
was on sixteen truck, but we
had to fill in officer. He was

1300
01:32:58.720 --> 01:33:01.319
from another company somewhere, remember his
name. So we had a filling officer.

1301
01:33:01.760 --> 01:33:04.479
And you know, you always take
ladders off the truck, you know,

1302
01:33:04.560 --> 01:33:08.000
I mean, whether you're going to
the front or the rear, ladders

1303
01:33:08.039 --> 01:33:11.760
come off. And that was Chief
Maritz's big thing. I don't care what

1304
01:33:11.960 --> 01:33:15.239
you do, you better have at
least two ladders off, if not three.

1305
01:33:15.640 --> 01:33:17.319
So we get there. So the
officers saw, you know, first

1306
01:33:17.359 --> 01:33:20.079
company in the first truck company in
ten truck say, you know, it's

1307
01:33:20.119 --> 01:33:23.399
pot of food. You know,
we're going to handle it. One and

1308
01:33:23.479 --> 01:33:28.039
one, And so we go to
get the ladders. We're taking the ladders

1309
01:33:28.079 --> 01:33:31.800
to the back and lieutenant that was
working that was filling in, he goes,

1310
01:33:31.840 --> 01:33:33.680
now, now we don't need them, go ahead and throw them back.

1311
01:33:33.880 --> 01:33:36.039
Throw them back. We don't need
him. I was like, okay,

1312
01:33:36.239 --> 01:33:40.079
you know, boss said put them
back. So did that. So

1313
01:33:40.800 --> 01:33:44.720
Chief Merits and I'll tell you what
that guy there, hell of a fireman,

1314
01:33:44.800 --> 01:33:47.880
I said. His two boys were
in the job in the FDNY and

1315
01:33:49.359 --> 01:33:55.479
he uh, he comes up to
lieutenant and he says, lieutenant, what

1316
01:33:55.760 --> 01:34:00.000
the what the fuck? Where are
my ladders? And he said, well,

1317
01:34:00.199 --> 01:34:02.359
you know, it was a pot
of food. Chief and goes where

1318
01:34:02.399 --> 01:34:05.439
are my ladders? And he just
bringed him in the ass. And he

1319
01:34:05.560 --> 01:34:10.600
told all the companies to leave after
it was done. Everybody leaves sixteen truck,

1320
01:34:10.920 --> 01:34:15.079
you stay right here. So we
took every ladder off the truck and

1321
01:34:15.199 --> 01:34:18.319
ladder deb building twice, not once, but twice. So we're talking to

1322
01:34:18.399 --> 01:34:23.039
thirty five foot and thirty foot,
twenty four foot, sixteen foot, the

1323
01:34:23.119 --> 01:34:27.319
comb ladder. Okay, you know, the attic ladder, the the attic

1324
01:34:27.439 --> 01:34:30.680
ladder, and the comb ladder.
Every ladder, every ladder had to come

1325
01:34:30.720 --> 01:34:33.760
off that truck, even the little
giant you used it like for inside,

1326
01:34:33.840 --> 01:34:38.880
like a closet or something like that. Every ladder came off that truck.

1327
01:34:39.119 --> 01:34:42.159
Then he made us put it back
on and we're like, okay, you

1328
01:34:42.199 --> 01:34:44.560
know, I'm embarrassed at this point, and he's like, all right,

1329
01:34:44.640 --> 01:34:47.840
do it again. Off comes the
ladder again. And I like this guy.

1330
01:34:48.439 --> 01:34:50.520
He was. He was a hell
of farm. He moved wind up,

1331
01:34:50.560 --> 01:34:57.039
moving up to Manhattan and his boys
are or word, did you have

1332
01:34:57.119 --> 01:34:59.760
to think I know that last name. I definitely know that last somebody just

1333
01:34:59.800 --> 01:35:02.800
said that they're on the job A
great great chief. That was guys I

1334
01:35:02.920 --> 01:35:06.199
got you learned from, you know, that was guys that and in you

1335
01:35:06.279 --> 01:35:10.239
know Chief Lego, you know my
last battalion chief when I was a twenty

1336
01:35:10.319 --> 01:35:13.359
six truck I mean, awesome guy. I worked with him when he was

1337
01:35:13.399 --> 01:35:16.720
a lieutenant at thirteen truck and uh, you know, just those guys you

1338
01:35:16.840 --> 01:35:19.920
learned so much for and I was, you know, I was fortunate enough

1339
01:35:20.000 --> 01:35:25.760
to learn the way that you know
that they were teaching, and I was

1340
01:35:25.840 --> 01:35:30.880
able to you know, pass it
on to my guys like Jason Stevens,

1341
01:35:30.920 --> 01:35:33.960
who's uh, you know, he's
an excellent, excellent fireman and uh so

1342
01:35:34.119 --> 01:35:38.399
yeah. So if I have anything
to say at the end of the day,

1343
01:35:38.560 --> 01:35:41.319
it's, uh, you know what
these guys, you know, got

1344
01:35:41.399 --> 01:35:45.319
some go some good knowledge that will
hopefully carry them through and that they themselves

1345
01:35:45.359 --> 01:35:48.600
will pass it on. You know. Uh you know Timmy Kletch kid,

1346
01:35:48.840 --> 01:35:56.680
he's in Baltimore, right, I
think no, it was they have oh

1347
01:35:59.439 --> 01:36:01.520
yes, yes, his sons and
Captain Yeah, good guy. His problem

1348
01:36:01.680 --> 01:36:05.000
was I think a lieutenant rescue three. Does that sound right? Oh?

1349
01:36:06.079 --> 01:36:11.640
Yeah, t Carago. He was
captain captain to fifty. Okay, he

1350
01:36:11.720 --> 01:36:15.439
was a captain, and he wound
up moving down to the eastern sure Maryland.

1351
01:36:15.760 --> 01:36:17.039
I met him a few times.
Oh that's right, that's where he

1352
01:36:17.199 --> 01:36:21.800
was going, right right right?
Yeah? He uh talking to that guy.

1353
01:36:21.880 --> 01:36:26.159
I mean I wish I had ten
to fifteen hours a day to talk

1354
01:36:26.199 --> 01:36:29.880
to that guy. I mean,
just the wealth of knowledge that We'll go

1355
01:36:30.039 --> 01:36:31.199
back to the episode that we had
him on. You can listen to him

1356
01:36:31.199 --> 01:36:35.600
for two hours. Yeah, he
was, you know, just sitting there

1357
01:36:36.000 --> 01:36:40.399
helping at the times that I have
met him, and uh yeah, just

1358
01:36:40.479 --> 01:36:43.479
a wealth of knowledge, you know, just just wealth knowledge. And his

1359
01:36:43.720 --> 01:36:47.039
his son's a hell of a fireman, health an officer. So he did

1360
01:36:47.119 --> 01:36:49.880
him pray out, he'll do well, he'll do real well. Steve.

1361
01:36:49.920 --> 01:36:54.800
There was some one what was the
question that Jeff head Pope, Yeah,

1362
01:36:54.880 --> 01:37:00.239
thank you guns ask him. Uh
if he was working there during the freight

1363
01:37:00.359 --> 01:37:04.119
train fire under the city that burned
a few days. I was that happened

1364
01:37:04.159 --> 01:37:06.880
in July. It was hot.
I remember the hot July day that was

1365
01:37:08.000 --> 01:37:11.159
probably I can't remember what years in
the nineties. No, I was off.

1366
01:37:11.239 --> 01:37:14.840
I was in vacation at the beach. Nice better than you don't be

1367
01:37:14.960 --> 01:37:20.279
no freight. I will tell you
about that train. Can I tell you

1368
01:37:20.359 --> 01:37:26.840
this story about that train tunnel.
Yeah, this was after the incident with

1369
01:37:26.960 --> 01:37:29.840
the with the train car in the
tunnel, so this was probably maybe a

1370
01:37:29.920 --> 01:37:32.399
year or two later. Right,
So we get a call for that same

1371
01:37:32.640 --> 01:37:36.640
train tunnel for smoke in the tunnel. I'm thinking, oh shit, here

1372
01:37:36.720 --> 01:37:40.560
we go again, you know,
here's train tunnel. So we get there.

1373
01:37:41.000 --> 01:37:43.640
I'm on sixteen truck and we get
down. It's like two in the

1374
01:37:43.720 --> 01:37:47.239
morning and it's a single, single, single company called Just Truck sixteen in

1375
01:37:47.279 --> 01:37:50.159
the morning again. Yeah, two
in the morning, just investigat you know,

1376
01:37:50.319 --> 01:37:54.760
smoke smoking the tunnel. Right,
So we get there and the officers

1377
01:37:54.800 --> 01:37:58.560
with us. So we look up
and we looked probably about maybe one hundred

1378
01:37:58.600 --> 01:38:00.720
feet into the tunnel. You could
see glowing hate. You can see a

1379
01:38:00.800 --> 01:38:03.720
glow of fire burning. I'm like, all right, so, uh,

1380
01:38:04.199 --> 01:38:08.000
we go ahead, we get our
tools, get our bottle, we go

1381
01:38:08.199 --> 01:38:10.880
in. We go in, we
start walking in. Next thing, you

1382
01:38:10.960 --> 01:38:15.039
know, you see this light coming
at you. It's getting bigger, bigger,

1383
01:38:16.239 --> 01:38:20.000
running out of the taxpayer. There's
no train there's no train tunnel,

1384
01:38:20.159 --> 01:38:25.600
I mean the train tunnel. There's
no you have nowhere to really no clearance,

1385
01:38:25.680 --> 01:38:29.960
yeah, clearance, there's nothing there. So we turn around. Oh

1386
01:38:30.039 --> 01:38:32.520
ship, So we are running full
steam ahead, running out of this train

1387
01:38:32.840 --> 01:38:36.239
tunnel. Why this train light is
getting bigger and bigger and bigger. And

1388
01:38:36.279 --> 01:38:48.039
we were we were able to get
out of the tunnel before I would fire

1389
01:38:48.039 --> 01:38:53.880
wind up being some some debris or
trash that was burning. That's funny,

1390
01:38:53.960 --> 01:38:57.319
my boy, John Johnson, he
says, what I like about this podcast

1391
01:38:57.439 --> 01:39:01.800
is everyone is always on this podcast
is always talking about that guy that helped

1392
01:39:01.840 --> 01:39:05.399
him through the years of service.
Yeah, that's what it's all about.

1393
01:39:05.479 --> 01:39:09.000
Man. Yeah, I had I
got to listen names here, guys,

1394
01:39:09.039 --> 01:39:11.600
I mean you know, I had
to answer names of course, Uh,

1395
01:39:12.159 --> 01:39:15.119
Chief Mike Ritz, you know,
Rick Lego, Jacksoppo got rest his whole

1396
01:39:15.199 --> 01:39:19.279
health of fireman, great guy,
Jerry Smith health a fireman, he's an

1397
01:39:19.279 --> 01:39:24.680
e v D. He's a good
and of course you heard me mention Paul

1398
01:39:24.760 --> 01:39:29.199
Novak and uh you know, a
great great lieutenant and him and Cole Carter,

1399
01:39:29.560 --> 01:39:32.760
he was my officer on for truck. You know, just you know,

1400
01:39:32.880 --> 01:39:36.960
you learn from these guys, and
you learned a really good way of

1401
01:39:38.079 --> 01:39:42.319
doing it. And and they held
you accountable, you know, they it's

1402
01:39:42.439 --> 01:39:45.880
they held you accountable. And uh
so it was good. It was it

1403
01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:47.560
was fun. It was a good
time. What was that other question?

1404
01:39:47.720 --> 01:39:57.680
Guns? It was they were asking
about on the job? Mm hmm uh

1405
01:39:58.000 --> 01:40:03.439
No, there was well, lieutenant
Novak, captain I'm not sure which twenty's

1406
01:40:03.479 --> 01:40:06.960
talking about. I don't know which
captan he's talking about on that one.

1407
01:40:08.000 --> 01:40:13.359
I know the fib captain retired captain
from the rescue. He's retired. He

1408
01:40:13.479 --> 01:40:17.479
moved down to Florida. But Paul
Novak, he was a lieutenant thirteen engine

1409
01:40:17.520 --> 01:40:23.119
he was. Guys, I do
have one more for you while we're we're

1410
01:40:23.199 --> 01:40:26.760
not out this last question. Somebody
wants to hear about the raccoon around Duncan

1411
01:40:26.800 --> 01:40:32.000
Dune. Yeah, we had a
raccoon. It was rabbit. It was

1412
01:40:32.000 --> 01:40:35.159
a rabbit raccoon. So we in
the morning always made a tradition with the

1413
01:40:35.239 --> 01:40:38.600
guys, you know, you kind
of you know, my thing was in

1414
01:40:38.680 --> 01:40:40.920
the morning with the guys. You
know, you get checked in, you

1415
01:40:41.000 --> 01:40:44.560
know, get your stuff together.
Everybody you know, has their stuff together,

1416
01:40:44.760 --> 01:40:46.520
go through the payroll, kind of
like morning routine. And then we

1417
01:40:46.560 --> 01:40:50.039
would always go up to uh Duncan
Doughnut took the road, Yeah, just

1418
01:40:50.079 --> 01:40:53.920
a little us time, you know, coffee, tea, you know whatever.

1419
01:40:54.359 --> 01:40:57.560
And uh so a lady comes out. We were in the Duncan Donuts.

1420
01:40:57.600 --> 01:40:59.840
She comes in, she goes,
there's a raccoon running around the parking

1421
01:40:59.840 --> 01:41:02.800
line. So we go out there
and it's, uh, it's it's rabbit.

1422
01:41:02.840 --> 01:41:06.239
It's got itself up against the wall. It's like rearing itself up like

1423
01:41:06.319 --> 01:41:09.479
it's going to strike at you.
So we, you know, we get

1424
01:41:09.520 --> 01:41:13.520
a couple of ceiling hawks and we
kind of there, we kind of you

1425
01:41:13.600 --> 01:41:17.279
know, shooting away and the meantime
among the film communications calling up, you

1426
01:41:17.319 --> 01:41:19.720
know, get the animal control here, you know, kind of get this

1427
01:41:19.840 --> 01:41:23.399
animal out and off the street,
because there was like it was like a

1428
01:41:23.399 --> 01:41:27.560
little shop, little storefront shops right
there, and uh so you wind up

1429
01:41:27.640 --> 01:41:32.119
running in the woods. So yeah, that's you need old raccoon. Yeah,

1430
01:41:32.720 --> 01:41:36.199
I think it might be that time
for him to part some words of

1431
01:41:36.239 --> 01:41:41.399
wisdom on our young I think,
so, well, you know what time

1432
01:41:41.439 --> 01:41:44.680
it is, Oh, let's let's
do it. It is that time for

1433
01:41:48.159 --> 01:41:54.760
of the day. Day, all
right, I'll see folios. All right,

1434
01:41:55.000 --> 01:41:57.520
old school tipp of the gay guys. Here we go, Tip of

1435
01:41:57.600 --> 01:42:00.399
the day. Check your ship,
you know, I want to. I

1436
01:42:00.479 --> 01:42:04.039
say that to uh the guys.
Uh, you know, and anybody that's

1437
01:42:04.119 --> 01:42:08.560
listening now. You know, check
your ship when you get in in the

1438
01:42:08.640 --> 01:42:12.319
morning. You know, Uh,
folks tend to take things for uh.

1439
01:42:13.039 --> 01:42:16.359
You know that that everything's okay.
The night shift before me didn't have any

1440
01:42:16.439 --> 01:42:18.560
runs. You know, I don't
need to check the air mask, I

1441
01:42:18.600 --> 01:42:21.279
don't need to start the saws.
I don't need to check your tool,

1442
01:42:21.359 --> 01:42:25.119
the medic you know, those kinds
of things. And I got to tell

1443
01:42:25.119 --> 01:42:29.800
you a few times, you know, I've seen companies, along with myself,

1444
01:42:30.199 --> 01:42:32.079
have gotten caught to where you know, you go to get the tool,

1445
01:42:32.199 --> 01:42:36.079
you go to start saw, you
go to put your SCBA on,

1446
01:42:36.239 --> 01:42:40.239
which happened to me. You put
it on. We had a fire and

1447
01:42:40.399 --> 01:42:44.840
it was uh, it was stuck
in the free flow position at something very

1448
01:42:44.920 --> 01:42:48.319
avoidable. If I would have taken
a moment and check it, and I

1449
01:42:48.479 --> 01:42:51.319
usually do, but that morning,
I for some reason didn't. Something else

1450
01:42:51.439 --> 01:42:55.560
was going on. So yes,
so if I had the tip of the

1451
01:42:55.640 --> 01:42:59.039
day, check your ship, make
sure your tools are right, make sure

1452
01:42:59.520 --> 01:43:02.640
your gears right. You have everything, and check out s C B A

1453
01:43:02.880 --> 01:43:08.119
man, that is your that is
your ticking home. Uh, make sure

1454
01:43:08.199 --> 01:43:12.479
you check that. I can't I
can't emphasize that more. So, yeah,

1455
01:43:13.640 --> 01:43:16.720
all right, you know it's funny
they say that what I I found

1456
01:43:16.760 --> 01:43:23.279
and it happened to me was I
used to just put the bottle on right,

1457
01:43:23.399 --> 01:43:26.439
shut the bottle off, purchase the
mask, and that was it right

1458
01:43:27.920 --> 01:43:30.720
right. And then but I never
put the mask on all the time I

1459
01:43:30.760 --> 01:43:32.680
got you know, you get into
habits. And then one time, I'm

1460
01:43:32.720 --> 01:43:36.600
not going to say, but I
was working in a different firehouse. Of

1461
01:43:36.680 --> 01:43:40.960
course guys checked my bottle for me. I watched them checking the brig.

1462
01:43:41.039 --> 01:43:44.439
But I always checked my bottle,
even in the different firehouse, obviously,

1463
01:43:45.239 --> 01:43:48.800
And I did the same exact thing. And uh, I had a kick

1464
01:43:48.880 --> 01:43:53.479
asstra I was first do second alarm, and I went to put the mask

1465
01:43:53.560 --> 01:43:58.800
on, and there was some type
of apparatus in the mask that I couldn't

1466
01:43:59.720 --> 01:44:02.479
put it forrally to my face.
So I had to actually I had to

1467
01:44:02.640 --> 01:44:05.960
turn it around and use it as
it was because it was all part of

1468
01:44:06.039 --> 01:44:10.279
the face piece, so I had
to actually hold it. It was actually

1469
01:44:10.399 --> 01:44:15.199
like that allegully, and you know, I lost my eyebrows. I came

1470
01:44:15.239 --> 01:44:18.079
out looking like this microphone and uh, you know, I couldn't do the

1471
01:44:18.199 --> 01:44:21.239
job. And it was pretty shitty, you know what I mean, like

1472
01:44:21.319 --> 01:44:24.560
really scary, like I thought.
You know, I actually tried to get

1473
01:44:24.560 --> 01:44:27.159
a face piece off of one of
my My company ended up responding that I

1474
01:44:27.239 --> 01:44:30.720
tried to get the face piece.
Now again, the guy who that was

1475
01:44:30.079 --> 01:44:34.199
apologized up and down to me.
But in the end it was my fault,

1476
01:44:34.720 --> 01:44:39.439
I mean. And from that time
on, from that time on,

1477
01:44:39.600 --> 01:44:42.079
get into your case. From that
time on, it did matter. I

1478
01:44:42.239 --> 01:44:45.239
always put the fake the mask on, took a few breaths, made sure

1479
01:44:45.239 --> 01:44:48.239
it was good, took it off, shut it, purged it, and

1480
01:44:48.319 --> 01:44:50.319
it was right, you know,
put it in a position that I wanted

1481
01:44:50.359 --> 01:44:54.079
and I knew it was ready to
go. You should have done was check

1482
01:44:54.159 --> 01:44:59.880
your ship, check your shit,
shit check your ship. And it's agath

1483
01:45:05.319 --> 01:45:09.279
alright, God, we gotta do
the health and safety tip, please sir,

1484
01:45:09.880 --> 01:45:13.399
Yes, yes, we do.
Let me get the by stand by.

1485
01:45:13.399 --> 01:45:15.399
I don't go nowhere, you're ready, Here we go. The First

1486
01:45:15.439 --> 01:45:20.079
Responder Center for Excellence is a not
for profit organization dedicated to protecting the lives

1487
01:45:20.119 --> 01:45:26.039
and livelihoods of first responders. Their
education and research initiatives aim to bring greater

1488
01:45:26.119 --> 01:45:30.920
awareness and understanding the challenges to the
health, safety, and well being of

1489
01:45:30.000 --> 01:45:33.760
firefighters, EMS, personnel, and
other first responders too. They are an

1490
01:45:33.760 --> 01:45:41.000
affiliate of the National Fallen Firefighter Foundation. This one's very near and deed to

1491
01:45:41.039 --> 01:45:45.000
my hot guns. Ready here is
the health and safety tip of the day.

1492
01:45:45.199 --> 01:45:50.159
Firefighter health and wellness is critical to
ensuring the safety and effectiveness of firefighters.

1493
01:45:50.880 --> 01:45:59.079
Do not underestimate the power of sleep. Assistant and adequate sleep helps maintain

1494
01:45:59.159 --> 01:46:04.039
alertness and cognitive function. I will
be cuddly, waterly under my blanket and

1495
01:46:04.159 --> 01:46:09.920
about fifteen minutes, bros, so
nice, That's what I'm saying. All

1496
01:46:10.000 --> 01:46:12.199
right, don't forget put that up
too. Guns will come out and see

1497
01:46:12.239 --> 01:46:17.279
me and Louis on the second,
third, and fourth of February. You

1498
01:46:17.359 --> 01:46:23.279
got your little finger guns. There
is second through the fourth that's at Colisee

1499
01:46:23.399 --> 01:46:26.720
and we are in booth one four
to two. We have people come by

1500
01:46:26.880 --> 01:46:30.079
all their laws and heavy hitters come
out and see us. We may have

1501
01:46:30.399 --> 01:46:34.199
Paul Hairshagging out there signing his book. I will let you the next show

1502
01:46:34.760 --> 01:46:39.640
he's gonna make it and he will
be signing his book, one hundred Years

1503
01:46:39.680 --> 01:46:45.399
of Vour. Just post up that
go fund me. Somebody said this to

1504
01:46:45.479 --> 01:46:49.079
me. I don't know much about
it. I just figured guys could take

1505
01:46:49.119 --> 01:46:53.199
a look at it. Okay,
yeah, I'm good. I'll just get

1506
01:46:54.039 --> 01:46:57.640
there's something for you in there in
the private chat as well. There,

1507
01:46:57.720 --> 01:47:00.159
hell me pull it up for me. You guys can read it. I

1508
01:47:00.159 --> 01:47:02.800
don't know if you want to touch
on it. It was just what I

1509
01:47:02.880 --> 01:47:06.960
have, what I did for you
guys. I have this and then that

1510
01:47:08.159 --> 01:47:12.039
was the actual So it's on go
fund me. Shoulder the weight for Tim.

1511
01:47:12.520 --> 01:47:15.560
Just check it out. I'm not
sure exactly what the situation is,

1512
01:47:15.640 --> 01:47:19.800
but it was sent to me from
one of our listeners, so I just

1513
01:47:19.880 --> 01:47:24.239
wanted to throw it up there.
Okay, yeah, I know the thing

1514
01:47:24.359 --> 01:47:28.000
is, but there was a picture
of I don't know if you guys wanted

1515
01:47:28.000 --> 01:47:30.000
to talk about I'll pull it up
really quick. Not a big deal.

1516
01:47:30.920 --> 01:47:36.159
It was this pick right here there. You go, oh, look at

1517
01:47:36.199 --> 01:47:42.680
that there go, yeah, Italians
Dallion. That's where I first met him

1518
01:47:42.720 --> 01:47:45.439
at the at the show, the
trade show, the well Alan show.

1519
01:47:45.520 --> 01:47:48.800
He was with Timmy Klett. Okay, yeah, I think he's he works

1520
01:47:48.800 --> 01:47:53.000
for Niosh now. I think that's
what he's doing, since he knows how

1521
01:47:53.039 --> 01:47:56.079
to do it. There you go. He's a good, great, great

1522
01:47:56.119 --> 01:48:00.800
fireman, great leader, just all
around great. I mean, you don't

1523
01:48:00.840 --> 01:48:03.359
make them like chief lay guys.
What do we have on Monday? Bro,

1524
01:48:04.199 --> 01:48:06.520
I didn't even look, you know, off the top of your head.

1525
01:48:08.960 --> 01:48:10.960
I have so many guys, I
know, police so much coming on.

1526
01:48:11.279 --> 01:48:13.560
I got a lot of big guys
coming on. We had a lot

1527
01:48:13.600 --> 01:48:16.359
of big shows. The Rescue documentary
is coming out. We got some big

1528
01:48:16.439 --> 01:48:23.399
news possibly coming down to Captain Silvino. Oh, Captain Silvino. Bro Louis

1529
01:48:23.960 --> 01:48:30.079
he's the real deal. Bro.
I love his email Italian something right to

1530
01:48:30.279 --> 01:48:38.399
eighty three. Got a lot Oh
yeah, goals, All right, don't

1531
01:48:38.399 --> 01:48:41.520
forget to come out and see us
booth number one forty two, second third,

1532
01:48:41.600 --> 01:48:44.039
fourth of February. Come on out. Maybe we might be drinking the

1533
01:48:44.039 --> 01:48:45.079
booth. Maybe we won't. I
don't know. We'll see what happens.

1534
01:48:45.279 --> 01:48:53.920
Oh right, guys, great job, man stories. It was, it

1535
01:48:54.039 --> 01:48:58.399
was, it was. It was
a great run. And I wouldn't do

1536
01:48:58.479 --> 01:49:00.960
it any other way. We do
it any and now we have your story

1537
01:49:01.119 --> 01:49:05.359
for posterity. We got to hear
it in the files in the bank,

1538
01:49:05.640 --> 01:49:11.239
in the can back for the old
poop of the back of the Rolodex days.

1539
01:49:13.800 --> 01:49:19.159
Yeah, then we say not show
getting salty. You talk about Rolodex.

1540
01:49:19.239 --> 01:49:21.640
We men, you Rollodex with the
academy. Look at me, funny

1541
01:49:21.760 --> 01:49:25.520
like, Oh, I just mentioned
something the other day about the library,

1542
01:49:25.560 --> 01:49:32.119
the Dewey decimal system. My sounds
like what draws box? Nothing? No

1543
01:49:33.359 --> 01:49:38.079
box assignment cards that used to be
in the firehouses. Oh yeah, yeah

1544
01:49:38.159 --> 01:49:42.000
yeah when you relocate. We used
to relocate you to get that card.

1545
01:49:42.560 --> 01:49:45.720
Take your cards. Yeah. Listen, I gotta get into bed because fire

1546
01:49:45.760 --> 01:49:49.359
in neat sleep. You know what
I'm saying, bro, even retired,

1547
01:49:49.399 --> 01:49:53.640
fire in neat sleep in the can
in the can. So we'll see you

1548
01:49:53.760 --> 01:49:57.079
on Monday night. Thanks for coming
on, Steve. Until then, stay

1549
01:49:57.239 --> 01:50:00.119
low and go peeps. All right, everybody will see it, the big

1550
01:50:00.159 --> 01:50:01.680
one. Thanks you. He's gonna
see the big one. Saddle up,

1551
01:50:01.720 --> 01:50:09.439
gentlemen. Sounds like work and ladies. Sorry forgive me. I'm gonna keep

1552
01:50:09.439 --> 01:50:11.600
our name going. I'm gonna all
the ones that you guys have done.

1553
01:50:12.920 --> 01:50:15.039
Thank you, John Ze. Alright, guys, stay safe, you're next.