WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:04.320 This is Dan Caplis, and welcome to today's online podcast edition of The Dan 2 00:00:04.400 --> 00:00:07.559 Caplis Show. Please be sure to give us a five star rating if you'd 3 00:00:07.599 --> 00:00:11.160 be so kind, and to subscribe, download, and listen to the show 4 00:00:11.279 --> 00:00:16.719 every single day on your favorite podcast platform. I've been so adamant, whether 5 00:00:16.719 --> 00:00:20.079 it's inside the party or outside the party, so adamant about Wait a second, 6 00:00:20.440 --> 00:00:23.399 we've got to be smart. We can't be saying stupid things. We 7 00:00:23.399 --> 00:00:27.280 can't be doing stupid things. We can't be handing the enemy gifts, the 8 00:00:27.359 --> 00:00:32.119 political enemy, of course, gifts and victories that were just better than that. 9 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:37.359 And we've got to do what it takes to make sure that we're moving 10 00:00:37.399 --> 00:00:40.399 forward and not backwards. So we'll have the latest on that in a couple 11 00:00:40.439 --> 00:00:43.320 of minutes. I do want to get back to in a second, this 12 00:00:44.159 --> 00:00:47.560 Gallop poll that the left's making such a big deal about, trying to convince 13 00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:52.840 the nation that that America has decidedly shifted against life and it's going to be 14 00:00:53.240 --> 00:00:58.000 a disastrous issue for Republicans in November. Nonsense. And so I've been breaking 15 00:00:58.039 --> 00:01:02.119 down the details from this poll, which actually contains a lot more good news 16 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:06.359 for pro lifers than it does for pro aborts. Hey, let's go to 17 00:01:06.359 --> 00:01:10.359 the VIP line. One of the really good people in politics, Jerry Sonenberg, 18 00:01:10.359 --> 00:01:14.760 who is now running for that seat up in CD four and a GOP 19 00:01:14.959 --> 00:01:19.480 primary packed with talent. Jerry kind enough to join us again. Welcome to 20 00:01:19.480 --> 00:01:23.239 the Dan Kaplo Show. Jerry? How you doing? I am doing fantastic. 21 00:01:23.239 --> 00:01:27.239 You always are, fday afternoon. How are you? You always are? 22 00:01:27.599 --> 00:01:32.519 I expect if I was to bump into you the moment the results come 23 00:01:32.560 --> 00:01:37.120 out on June twenty five, and whether you have won this primary by ten 24 00:01:37.159 --> 00:01:41.280 points or lost it by ten points, you're going to be the same happy, 25 00:01:41.640 --> 00:01:45.560 upbeat, forward looking guy, which is one of your many great qualities. 26 00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:53.599 Absolutely absolutely I will. My wife I have talked about what happens if 27 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:57.079 you win, what happens if you lose. How's that play out? The 28 00:01:57.120 --> 00:02:02.840 truth is this campaign, whether I win or lose, has made me a 29 00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:07.400 better man. Well, and you're running the right way for the right reasons. 30 00:02:09.599 --> 00:02:15.000 For me, it's all about how do you serve the people. And 31 00:02:15.400 --> 00:02:19.439 when I was in the Colorado Legislature, it wasn't the bills I carried, 32 00:02:19.599 --> 00:02:23.439 It wasn't the fights that I had on the floor of the Senate. Although 33 00:02:23.479 --> 00:02:29.719 those are important, it was more about constituent services. How did I take 34 00:02:29.759 --> 00:02:34.479 care of those people that were having trouble navigating the Department of Revenue, or 35 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:38.599 the towns, the small towns that had trouble with the Department of Health and 36 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:44.439 Human Services, or even my farmers and ranchers that may have had issues and 37 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:51.360 needed to navigate through the Department Agriculture. For what I support, That's what 38 00:02:51.439 --> 00:02:53.520 I work on. Yeah, that is such a great point because I remember 39 00:02:53.599 --> 00:03:00.800 when my mom was dying of emphysema and I needed some information critically, you 40 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:04.400 know, from a US senator who I had, you know, given a 41 00:03:04.400 --> 00:03:07.759 lot of money to and supported, and I didn't want to talk to him. 42 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:09.599 I didn't want any kind of favor, I didn't want any special treatment. 43 00:03:09.759 --> 00:03:15.520 I just needed some information and called his office and they just blew me 44 00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:17.439 off. And I thought, why I haven't run for office if you're not 45 00:03:17.520 --> 00:03:23.360 willing to help people in a moment like that. Absolutely, And the truth 46 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:30.360 is, if I have people that blow off constituents that call, we're getting 47 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:35.840 new people. Because that's that's the mainstay of my campaign is how do we 48 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:40.039 serve. How do we take care of those things that the government puts up 49 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:50.240 in front of you as a citizen, whether it's a passport issue or local 50 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:55.199 unidation with very smater quality, those type of things, that's what those are 51 00:03:55.280 --> 00:04:00.560 the or a bad cell phone connection. Yeah, can you hear me? 52 00:04:00.599 --> 00:04:05.159 Okay, Jerry, I can't. What is the state of the race? 53 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:09.800 I mean everybody knows by now that that there's kind of a math challenge, 54 00:04:10.039 --> 00:04:15.360 right, because you've got so much talent packed into one primary, and then 55 00:04:15.399 --> 00:04:18.319 you're going to be dividing up a lot of votes. So so what's the 56 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:24.240 state of the race? Well, and that's a good question. And you 57 00:04:24.279 --> 00:04:30.319 know you've seen the red the polling, Well, the polling I have challenges 58 00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:35.639 with. But you see the amount of money being spent in the campaign to 59 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:41.240 get name I d and and yes, I'm spending money on the TV and 60 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:46.000 trying to get my name out there so people recognize the work that I've done 61 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:51.920 and recognize my name when they fill out their ballots. And now there's another 62 00:04:53.000 --> 00:04:58.279 candidate in the race that has really good name ID and then has more money, 63 00:04:58.360 --> 00:05:01.720 So that becomes a challenge for the rest of us that are looking at 64 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:06.560 a narrow path to victory. Yeah, because I mean you've got Congressoman Bobert, 65 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:10.600 you know, with all of that she brings to the table, and 66 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:14.279 then you've got a bunch of really talented candidates, and you know, it'd 67 00:05:14.319 --> 00:05:16.319 be interesting to see what it would look like in a one on one race, 68 00:05:16.360 --> 00:05:19.879 but obviously not the race that we have here. So what is your 69 00:05:19.920 --> 00:05:25.079 website? How can people learn more about you? Dan? Thank you for 70 00:05:25.120 --> 00:05:29.879 asking. It's Sunberg for Congress dot com. S O M M E N 71 00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:34.759 B E R G E F O R Congress dot com. H happy to 72 00:05:34.839 --> 00:05:41.360 answer any questions my emails on there. They can reach out and I have 73 00:05:41.439 --> 00:05:46.040 a number of people do that. I've been having an ongoing conversation with a 74 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:48.240 number of people, and my campaign team says, you don't have time to 75 00:05:48.279 --> 00:05:53.959 do that, and yes I do quite frankly. That's what's important, is 76 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:58.560 that one on one having a conversation and not blowing people off. Yeah. 77 00:05:58.639 --> 00:06:01.000 Well, I'll tell you really are one of the good guys in politics, 78 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:03.879 you have been for a long time. And wish you the best here and 79 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:08.439 let's talk again before election day, which is seems like tomorrow, right, 80 00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:12.560 I believe how close to twenty five is? Holy cow? And I bet 81 00:06:12.600 --> 00:06:15.439 you're counting a minute. Well, hey, and have a good Father's Day. 82 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:18.759 You do the same, Dan, have a wonderful weekend and a wonderful 83 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:23.040 Father's Day. And thank you for the opportunity to just catch up and busit 84 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:25.560 with you. I look forward to talking to you again. Thank you, 85 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:29.399 my friend you as well. That is Jerry Sonenberg. And I've said this 86 00:06:29.439 --> 00:06:31.720 before. There's no doubt in my mind if if you were out there driving 87 00:06:31.720 --> 00:06:35.800 through the Eastern Plains and it was the worst blizzard they'd ever had and your 88 00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:40.800 car breaks down and it's five below zero, Jerry would be the guy to 89 00:06:40.839 --> 00:06:45.439 stop and help you change the tires. Just that kind of guy. Speaking 90 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:46.600 of Father's Day, we're going to do on the show in a bit one 91 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:49.480 of my favorite segments of the year for both Mother's Day and Father's Day, 92 00:06:49.480 --> 00:06:55.240 which is the best advice your father ever gave you, Because it's it's amazing, 93 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:58.319 you know, the kind of the collective wisdom when everybody starts talking about 94 00:06:58.319 --> 00:07:02.360 that one top best piece of advice. It's fun and a lot to be 95 00:07:02.439 --> 00:07:05.720 learned. Ryan. I'm watching the monitor here because we're talking all the time. 96 00:07:05.759 --> 00:07:11.120 If it was up to me, we'd spend all day every day talking 97 00:07:11.160 --> 00:07:14.040 about the debate between now and debate day, because I think it's going to 98 00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:17.360 be that important and it's that interesting the way all these dynamics are shaping up. 99 00:07:17.959 --> 00:07:23.560 But so glad to see the chiron President Trump now talking at his birthday 100 00:07:23.600 --> 00:07:29.879 celebration, a big birthday rally, But see the chiron Trump colon. I'm 101 00:07:29.920 --> 00:07:32.720 a peace maker, and this is what we've been talking about in the debate, 102 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:38.759 the danger of diffusion. Find your few key best points, keep hammering 103 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:42.959 those, and Trump has so many of those. But I am a peace 104 00:07:43.040 --> 00:07:46.680 maker. You know, A vote for Trump is a vote for peace. 105 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:49.040 A vote for Biden is a vote for war. That's not rhetoric. We 106 00:07:49.160 --> 00:07:53.399 know it. Just look at the track records. Both have had presidencies now 107 00:07:53.480 --> 00:07:59.199 right. Trump's was marked by peace, Biden's marked by war for obvious reasons. 108 00:07:59.279 --> 00:08:03.839 So just stay clear on that theme. The other thing, and if 109 00:08:03.839 --> 00:08:07.279 I had a chance to give the president advice, and I think he'd liked 110 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:09.399 this piece. The other thing is get the guy on the golf course. 111 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:15.120 You know he's just been through a horrible ordeal with this this wrongful conviction in 112 00:08:15.160 --> 00:08:16.680 New York, had to be in that court in for a month. Get 113 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:22.360 him on the golf course, get him rested, get him prepped, get 114 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:24.959 him as sharp as he can be mentally, because we don't know he's a 115 00:08:24.079 --> 00:08:28.920 super intelligent guy. But you know, you can also get fatigued if you're 116 00:08:28.920 --> 00:08:31.440 out there on the trail constantly. So just be ready for that. A 117 00:08:31.679 --> 00:08:35.600 Trump. But those key points, those key themes, obviously near the head 118 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:41.360 of the pack, needs to be I'm a peacemaker. Vote for Trump is 119 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:43.799 a vote for peace, vote for Biden, vote for war. The proof 120 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:48.759 is there? Eight five five or zero five A two five five the number 121 00:08:48.799 --> 00:08:52.559 when we come back open lines. But let's start with the best advice your 122 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:56.000 father ever gave you. I want to give you more good stuff out of 123 00:08:56.039 --> 00:08:58.879 this gallop pole on pro choice versus pro life, And I want to get 124 00:08:58.879 --> 00:09:03.720 to this texter, who let me tee this up? This texture? Says 125 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:09.000 Dan? How is the life issued different than LGBTQ plus why can we tolerate 126 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:13.159 one and say it's okay but not the other? Shouldn't we follow God on 127 00:09:13.399 --> 00:09:18.159 both? Thank you for that question, texter. And there's a very easy 128 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:20.279 answer to that, we'll get to a five point twenty one point five on 129 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:26.679 the Dankapitlas Show. And now back to the Dan Taplass Show podcast. What 130 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:33.519 do you think God would say if he called the show wow? Eight five 131 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:37.320 five for zero five A two five five text d A N five seven seven 132 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:41.200 three nine. We're also pre Father's Day show. The best advice your father 133 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:46.159 ever gave you, I'll kick it off with one. My dad gave so 134 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:50.279 much great advice. The best advice he gave was by example. You know, 135 00:09:50.639 --> 00:09:54.799 six foot three, two hundred and thirty pounds, former top college athlete, 136 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:58.759 Chicago police officer, just watching him in action. Would come home from 137 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:03.720 More every day when he was working days and when he was off and get 138 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:05.919 all the kids out in the alley and we'd play football in the alley or 139 00:10:05.919 --> 00:10:09.360 would play softball, depending on the season. You know, he just taught 140 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:15.159 me through example that love is spelled time. Somebody else coined that phrase, 141 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:20.639 but he did it by example. But one of his great messages was the 142 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:24.840 most important things in life aren't things? So? And you know he just 143 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:28.120 lived that. So would love to hear from you on all of that. 144 00:10:28.159 --> 00:10:30.559 But Ryan, before we get to our fiery phone lines. And I'm going 145 00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:33.360 to start with that text I mentioned before the break. What do you think 146 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:37.159 God would say if he called the show? And I'd love to hear from 147 00:10:37.159 --> 00:10:45.440 other people on that. Yeah, what do you think? And that could 148 00:10:45.559 --> 00:10:48.679 happen? God can do anything he wants, right, Kelly may pick up 149 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:54.519 that next line, and Kelly, I believe in the New Testament God, 150 00:10:54.679 --> 00:10:58.360 which is a loving, caring, for giving God, and I think he 151 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:01.480 would want us to love one another and not hate one another. What would 152 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:05.080 he say if he called the show? I don't know him, that talk 153 00:11:05.080 --> 00:11:09.879 about und him. You don't have to be to answer that question. Think 154 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:11.879 about it, but I will bet you my friend, and this is the 155 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:16.919 business. Well you said that before I say it again, that's right. 156 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:20.519 But all all I'm saying is that's probably the first time that question has ever 157 00:11:20.559 --> 00:11:24.480 been asked on a talk show anywhere, at any time. So I just 158 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:28.720 asked people to ponder it. We try to stay fresh here. I got 159 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:31.480 you. Yeah, So anyway, let me get back to that text, 160 00:11:31.559 --> 00:11:37.759 Dan, how is the life issue different than LGBTQ plus why can we tolerate 161 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:41.519 one and say it's okay but not the other shouldn't we follow God on both? 162 00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:50.240 Respectfully, I reject your premise. The life issue isn't different than LGBTQ 163 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:56.480 plus. I mean, the answer is consistent and clear when it comes to 164 00:11:56.639 --> 00:12:05.039 policy, you stop bad things and you do good things. So on life, 165 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:09.840 on abortion, you stop bad things. You stop the killing of children 166 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:15.759 before birth. On LGBTQ plus policy issues, you stop bad things. You 167 00:12:15.799 --> 00:12:22.519 stop the mutilation of children under the guise of quote gender affirmation, you stop 168 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:26.600 the and I'm talking to policy level here, you stop the sexualization of children 169 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:31.279 at a young age, which is what this Biden administration and leftist allies are 170 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:39.320 trying to do. You stop undermining religious liberty by saying LGBTQ plus rights trump 171 00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:45.519 religious liberty, You defend First Amendment. You stop the effort of LGBTQ plus 172 00:12:45.559 --> 00:12:52.879 policy issues and rights trumping First Amendment rights. So it's absolutely consistent on both 173 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:58.559 fronts. And that's whether one believes in God or doesn't believe in God. 174 00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:03.039 So yeah, I think that one simple Brian in beautiful Arvada, Colorado. 175 00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:07.480 You're on the Dan Kaplis show. Welcome. Hey, Dan, I could 176 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:13.879 hearing you say the term God hates flags. But what else that he said 177 00:13:15.480 --> 00:13:18.639 that offends you, that he's wrong about. Oh, nothing offends me. 178 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:24.159 This isn't about offending me. What what I'm concerned strong? Besides, you're 179 00:13:24.440 --> 00:13:31.320 associating some church or something. But what else in his the post or whatever 180 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:35.440 offends you? Well, again, that's wrong, right, right, And 181 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:39.720 I'll be more precise than that. What I'm focused on are the things that 182 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:46.679 Dave Williams's party chair has done to help the left win and to undermine the 183 00:13:46.759 --> 00:13:52.919 GOP in Colorado. And you start with launching a campaign literally based on hate. 184 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:56.919 That's a gift to the left, using the H word repeatedly, that 185 00:13:56.039 --> 00:14:01.159 is a gift to the left. And on these you won't, I won't 186 00:14:01.159 --> 00:14:05.759 what you won't tell us specifics about it. I have done that beyond that, 187 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:07.360 and if you hadn't interrupted me, I would have again. But I've 188 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:11.000 done it in a hundred times. Yes, and and so he's done it 189 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:16.039 in multiple ways, my friend, as I've documented on this show. First 190 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:20.000 of all, and the worst of all is in my opinion, and Dave's 191 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:24.440 welcome on the show to tell me if he thinks I'm wrong in my opinion, 192 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:33.480 the absolutely insidious God hates flags post which I think any thinking person is 193 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:41.480 going to view as code for the awful God Hates Fags message of Westboro Baptist 194 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:45.879 Church that in fact is their website, God Hates Fags dot com. That's 195 00:14:45.879 --> 00:14:50.679 how evil they are. And so you agree, right, we agree with 196 00:14:50.600 --> 00:14:56.519 went allver that, But what in what in his actual narrative beyond that? 197 00:14:56.720 --> 00:15:03.600 Did he say that the wrong to you? Beyond the little pot? No? 198 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:07.919 No, wait a second, you want to drive by that, Brian, 199 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:11.519 that's a big mistake, because if I'm right, and Dave's welcome on 200 00:15:11.559 --> 00:15:15.879 the show, if he believes I'm wrong, and to explain, Okay, 201 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:18.720 Brian, may I please just explain my point? And the other day we 202 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:22.240 had somebody called the defend Dave on this. I literally kept the guy the 203 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:26.799 entire show, and he dodged question after question. I will keep you the 204 00:15:26.960 --> 00:15:30.840 entire show, so you don't have to interrupt me. Just let me make 205 00:15:30.919 --> 00:15:33.799 my point, and then if I'm wrong, tell me where you want to 206 00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:35.120 say? What else do you got? I want to say, I don't 207 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:41.159 need any more because if Dave Williams did what I believe he did, and 208 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:48.559 if he chose to have the Colorado GOP echo Westboro Baptist Church and their insidious 209 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:56.679 God hates fag's motto that in and of itself is absolutely requires termination from the 210 00:15:56.720 --> 00:16:02.559 post. Westboro Baptist Church is a hate group in my mind, a hate 211 00:16:02.559 --> 00:16:07.399 group in my opinion, that celebrates the killing of American soldiers. It pickets 212 00:16:07.480 --> 00:16:14.320 the funerals of American soldiers and celebrates their death. So if Dave Williams did 213 00:16:14.360 --> 00:16:18.039 what I think he did, and and he aligned the Colorado GOP, or 214 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:25.080 to be more precise, echoed, has the Colorado GOP echo Westboro Baptist Church? 215 00:16:25.559 --> 00:16:26.960 Can't you agree at that point, Brian, he should be gone. 216 00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:36.159 No, not at all. What if it's true, Brian, No, 217 00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:37.200 no, no, no, no, what if that's true? No, 218 00:16:37.320 --> 00:16:41.519 he can Okay, it might have been. It might have been a little 219 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:45.360 bit. You know, let's maybe I'll give that to you. But he 220 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:48.759 got people's attention. I want to know, you know you can get what 221 00:16:48.799 --> 00:16:52.519 he said was wrong? Okay, I want to know. Well I started 222 00:16:52.679 --> 00:16:56.759 with that, So you tell me if that's what the content I want to 223 00:16:56.919 --> 00:16:59.919 we're shot with that. We already agree on that. No, no, 224 00:16:59.799 --> 00:17:03.600 no, but but you will Brian, what I okay, I'm put Brian 225 00:17:03.639 --> 00:17:07.119 and holds for a second. I answered Brian's question. I'm going to ask 226 00:17:07.160 --> 00:17:11.079 Brian to answer mine, and we have jam lines. We have an open 227 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:14.000 line. But I'll bring Brian back on the other side. See this, 228 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:17.559 this is what this is what he's trying to do. He's trying to drive 229 00:17:17.640 --> 00:17:21.720 past this point. But to be intellectually honest, what Brian needs to answer 230 00:17:21.759 --> 00:17:26.279 and what Dave needs to answer to the people of the GOP across the state 231 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:30.039 is if he was doing what I and many others think he was doing, 232 00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:38.599 which is echoing Westboro Baptist Church, insidious God hates fags. If he was 233 00:17:38.680 --> 00:17:42.599 doing that, can't we all agree he should be gone. And if Brian 234 00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:45.720 believes that, no, if that's what he was doing, he should stay, 235 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:49.519 then then he needs to say that and explain why and how that doesn't 236 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:55.519 sink the GOP. You're on the Dan Kapla Show. You're listening to the 237 00:17:55.599 --> 00:18:00.880 Dan Kaplis Show podcast. We're talking about I'd do this every father Standmother's Day. 238 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:03.839 The best advice your father ever gave you. I've given some of the 239 00:18:03.839 --> 00:18:08.960 best advice I got from my dad. Texter says, my dad said, 240 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:14.880 buy apple Stock that was in nineteen eighty three or so, so he kicks 241 00:18:14.920 --> 00:18:18.759 himself every day for not doing that. My dad, at a sign above 242 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:22.279 his desk, said don't put off until tomorrow what you can do today. 243 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:26.880 He was a World War Two disabled vet. And the other great advice was 244 00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:30.519 to always use a moisturizer. See, we didn't get that advice in Chicago 245 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:34.480 because with the humidity, I mean, they probably sold one tube a moisturizer 246 00:18:34.519 --> 00:18:40.279 a year in Chicago. But when Dan, my dad taught me when I 247 00:18:40.319 --> 00:18:42.799 was little that pain interest was like throwing money out the window, and it 248 00:18:42.960 --> 00:18:48.079 always stuck with me. So now we're taking some calls on that as well. 249 00:18:48.440 --> 00:18:52.400 Another piece of great advice from my dad. If you're grateful, you're 250 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:59.680 rich, some of the best advice ever. Right Hey, now we'll continue 251 00:18:59.759 --> 00:19:03.720 with Brian. Brian had called the show on the GOP chair issue. We 252 00:19:03.759 --> 00:19:07.759 have Priscilla Ron's schedule to be with us, another of the really good people 253 00:19:07.839 --> 00:19:14.519 in politics in Colorado. She's a candidate to GOP. Douglas County Commissioner Priscilla 254 00:19:14.680 --> 00:19:18.200 for dougco dot com. Priscilla, Welcome to the Dan Kaplis Show. Hi, 255 00:19:18.359 --> 00:19:21.960 Dan, great to be on with you. Well, thank you and 256 00:19:22.039 --> 00:19:25.400 day tell everybody what you're up to and listen. We're blessed with audience from 257 00:19:25.440 --> 00:19:29.319 all over the state and beyond. But I understand the issues that you'll face 258 00:19:29.359 --> 00:19:34.000 as Douglas County Commissioner, you know have have much broader impact. So tell 259 00:19:34.039 --> 00:19:38.920 people why this race is important and why you're in it. Well, it's 260 00:19:38.920 --> 00:19:45.519 really important because the number one issue amongst Douglas County residents are property taxes and 261 00:19:45.680 --> 00:19:49.640 we are suffering under you know, the repeal of Gallagher. So I do 262 00:19:49.720 --> 00:19:56.279 have a plan on my website to address property taxes. And also because of 263 00:19:56.319 --> 00:20:00.400 the illegal immigrants crisis that we've been dealing with at the border and now in 264 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:04.960 the Denver metro area, public safety is really important. So I am endorsed 265 00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:11.519 by our Sheriff, our DA John Kellner, and our men and women in 266 00:20:11.559 --> 00:20:14.519 blue who wear the badge every single day. So I'm really proud to work 267 00:20:14.559 --> 00:20:18.519 alongside our law enforcement to keep Douglas County safe. Well, a great group 268 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:25.839 of endorsements to have, so, Priscilla, right now that the issues facing 269 00:20:26.079 --> 00:20:30.880 county commissioners across Colorado, what are some of the common denominators with Douglas County 270 00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:33.759 and other parts of the state. Obviously property taxes. Beyond that, what 271 00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:40.039 do you think stands out? I think beyond that, well, we do 272 00:20:40.200 --> 00:20:45.720 have a new water commission because we cannot know we're growing and there's so much 273 00:20:45.759 --> 00:20:51.400 development. But water is one of the most critical components to developing a community 274 00:20:51.480 --> 00:20:53.680 and it is one of the most expensive parts that has These are one of 275 00:20:53.720 --> 00:20:59.559 the most expensive parts of building a home. So Douglas County actually doesn't have 276 00:20:59.599 --> 00:21:03.440 a water plan. Everyone around us, Denver or Rapahoe County have a three 277 00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:07.400 hundred year water plan. Albert Lcastle all have a water plan. But right 278 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:11.599 now we have a newly formed water commission. I'm so excited for them to 279 00:21:11.680 --> 00:21:18.039 present the county commissioners with their first ever water plan to make sure that our 280 00:21:18.119 --> 00:21:22.559 residents have access to safe, affordable drinking water for many many years to come. 281 00:21:22.279 --> 00:21:26.440 And to Priscilla run our guests and Priscilla tell people that website again if 282 00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:32.839 you would, it's Priscilla for dougco dot com. And that is with the 283 00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:38.480 for Priscilla for dougto dot com. Now tell folks why because in a little 284 00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:42.079 bit about yourself and I know you and I know some of the great things 285 00:21:42.079 --> 00:21:47.160 you've done, but why Douglas County will be better off with you as County 286 00:21:47.160 --> 00:21:52.640 commissioner. Well, Douglas County is a conservative county. We are a red 287 00:21:52.680 --> 00:21:56.839 county. All of our county elected officials are Republican. As you know, 288 00:21:56.960 --> 00:22:00.279 I am the former vice chair of the Colorado GOP, is elected twice, 289 00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:06.720 and I've been all around the state and I've just seen how important local politics 290 00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:11.440 is. We are closest to the people. We have the greatest impact on 291 00:22:11.519 --> 00:22:17.599 everyone's lives. I know federal races and presidential races are shiny and exciting, 292 00:22:17.880 --> 00:22:22.519 but really, if you want to have impacts on your life, you have 293 00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:26.119 to pay attention who's running locally so that you can have a great relationship with 294 00:22:26.160 --> 00:22:30.079 your local officials. And so I'm running because I live in Douglas County. 295 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:34.160 I want to keep it special. As Sheriff Weekly always says, it's a 296 00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:37.880 great place to be. We have low taxes. We want people to come 297 00:22:37.920 --> 00:22:42.000 here and make Douglas County there forever home. But we've got to have some 298 00:22:42.039 --> 00:22:47.920 sensible policies and small government. And I just think one of the reasons Douglas 299 00:22:47.960 --> 00:22:52.160 County is so great is because there have been people like you who've served in 300 00:22:52.279 --> 00:22:56.279 different positions, and so I really hope Douglas County gets to benefit from you 301 00:22:56.359 --> 00:23:00.839 again. Priscilla appreciate the time today. Thank you so much, Dan, 302 00:23:02.200 --> 00:23:06.640 thank you you take care of that's Priscilla Ron And want to get back to 303 00:23:06.680 --> 00:23:11.880 the conversation we've been having with Brian about the GOP chair in Colorado. If 304 00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:15.440 you've been out of town or you're new to the issue there at this point, 305 00:23:15.480 --> 00:23:21.200 I believe twelve different county gops that have voted to ask for the removal 306 00:23:21.279 --> 00:23:26.480 of Dave Williams as county chair over a number of different things that he's done. 307 00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:30.160 My personal belief, though I'm not an insider, so I don't know. 308 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:34.920 My personal belief is that there are many many people actively involved in the 309 00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:40.920 GOP way beyond these twelve counties who want to see Dave replace nothing personal. 310 00:23:41.480 --> 00:23:44.279 I'd like Dave personally. I've had him on the show at Tony won't come 311 00:23:44.279 --> 00:23:47.319 on on this issue, which I think tells you everything you need to know, 312 00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:52.720 but it involves a number of different actions by Dave. So Brian has 313 00:23:52.799 --> 00:23:56.519 called up to challenge man that which I'm always grateful for. So we'll get 314 00:23:56.559 --> 00:24:02.039 back to Brian on that, but before we let me preface it with this, 315 00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:03.359 because if you're new to the issue, and I'm sure you've got a 316 00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:07.319 busy life, so this isn't the only thing you're thinking about. In my 317 00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:15.359 mind, there is an absolutely critical starting point and that this act alone not 318 00:24:15.720 --> 00:24:21.240 only justifies but requires removal of Dave's party chair because what I believe, my 319 00:24:21.319 --> 00:24:26.799 opinion, is that Dave chose to put out a statement on behalf of the 320 00:24:26.839 --> 00:24:32.839 GOP that I believe was intended to echo one of the worst hate groups in 321 00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:38.039 America that calls itself Westboro Baptist Church, and it's a group that celebrates the 322 00:24:38.160 --> 00:24:45.079 killing of American soldiers. It goes to their funerals and pickets and celebrates the 323 00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:48.680 killing of that soldier while the family is watching the casket be brought in. 324 00:24:49.279 --> 00:24:53.839 That's how evil they are, in my opinion. And so what I believe 325 00:24:55.039 --> 00:25:00.319 is that when Dave chose to post this picture to send out under Colorado GOP 326 00:25:00.440 --> 00:25:03.680 banner, this picture of what's supposed to be Jesus, I guess, with 327 00:25:03.839 --> 00:25:08.440 lasers coming out of his eyes and a Pride type flag behind it in the 328 00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:15.920 word God Hates Flags. What I believe is that Dave was intending to echo 329 00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:22.640 the Westboro Baptist Church motto God Hates Fags. That insidious motto is even their 330 00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:27.079 web domain, god Hates Fags dot com. So my belief is that that's 331 00:25:27.119 --> 00:25:32.640 what Dave did here, And if I'm right, then I would think any 332 00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:37.079 reasonable person could agree that at that point Dave must go. Now we've invited 333 00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:40.599 Dave on the show, so we can ask him about this. Do I 334 00:25:40.680 --> 00:25:44.960 have that wrong? If so, what did you mean by God Hates flags? 335 00:25:44.960 --> 00:25:49.839 And is it just a coincidence that it seems to echo the God Hates 336 00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:56.359 Fags from Westboro Baptist Church and then you also say God hates pride and that's 337 00:25:56.400 --> 00:26:00.400 also on the Westboro Baptist Church website. Is all this a coincidence, Dave? 338 00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:03.599 Or did you intend to echo them? So that's why this is such 339 00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:07.160 a critical starting point. Now, the last person to come on the show 340 00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:12.400 and want to defend Dave just said they'd never heard of Westboro Baptist Church so 341 00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:18.559 they couldn't comment on this. To me, that's stunning. But I don't 342 00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:22.359 think anybody anybody should drive past this point. So when we come back, 343 00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:26.039 and we'll do it right after the break, I'm going to ask Brian to 344 00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:30.640 address this, and I'm going to ask Brian a simple question that I think 345 00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:34.799 fair minded Coloradden should ask themselves if if I'm right, and it's others saying 346 00:26:34.839 --> 00:26:38.759 the same thing, it's not just me who suspects this is what Dave was 347 00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:42.680 doing. If I'm right about that, can we all agree that in and 348 00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:48.200 of itself, that act means Dave cannot continue his party chair. So we'll 349 00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:52.720 come back and we'll start with that with Brian. You're on the Dan Kapla 350 00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:57.640 Show. And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast. A lot of 351 00:26:57.640 --> 00:27:00.559 great text on the best how vice your father ever gave you. I love 352 00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:06.400 doing this segment before Father's Day, saying before Mother's Day, Dan, we 353 00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:08.519 are dirt poor, hard working, willing to help anyone in need. Dan 354 00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:12.839 frequently reminded us that if we got in serious trouble, we were on our 355 00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:17.319 own because he could not afford to bail us out, and goes on to 356 00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:22.440 say about what a great influence that was on them. So Brian and Arvada, 357 00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:26.359 thank you for bringing in there. Brian and Brian's challenging my belief that 358 00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:30.279 Dave Williams needs to leave his county as a GOP chair in Colorado. So, 359 00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:34.759 Brian, if I'm correct, and many others have said the same thing, 360 00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:40.240 because I think it's a pretty obvious point. And if Dave was intending 361 00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:47.319 to have the Colorado GOP echo Westboro Baptist Church, they're insidious. God hates 362 00:27:47.400 --> 00:27:52.160 fag's motto when he posted and emailed to the GOP across the state, God 363 00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:57.400 hates flags. Would you agree at that point he cannot continue as party chair? 364 00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:03.039 Well, I can't agree on an assumption. You're making an assumption. 365 00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:07.279 I want to know about the content of what he said, about what he 366 00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:12.559 said after that that you disagree with. Okay, here's what we're going to 367 00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:18.920 do, Brian, because I encountered this tactic that you're employing the other day 368 00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:22.799 with somebody who called to try to defend Dave and on this point, which 369 00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:26.680 is obviously indefensible, they just didn't want to discuss it, so they found 370 00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:32.519 a hundred different ways not to address it, including claiming they'd never heard of 371 00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:37.519 Westboro Baptist Church. So making an assumption so I can't address I'm asking you 372 00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:42.359 a hypothetical. If in fact that's what Dave was doing, do you agree 373 00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:49.799 that he cannot continue his chair. Well, I have no reason to believe 374 00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:55.559 that he's involved in this church in any way. I mean, this is 375 00:28:56.559 --> 00:29:03.720 just I said. Dave Williams never said I'm glad that military people got killed. 376 00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:07.359 Knowledge that. Well, I'm not saying you're you're you're trying to you're 377 00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:10.400 trying to mix apples with oranges. No, no, no, no no. 378 00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:12.759 And what he's actually saying. What what I'm going to do is and 379 00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:15.559 Brian's a regular colony does this. So I'm just going to put him on 380 00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:19.119 pause there. First of all, if you're new to this segment or if 381 00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:23.359 you weren't with us in the prior segment, I never said or suggested that 382 00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:30.079 Dave Williams would celebrate the death of US soldiers, not at all. What 383 00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:34.839 I said is that I personally believe it's my opinion that when Dave decided to 384 00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:42.519 issue on behalf of the Colorado GOP this visual saying God hates flags, my 385 00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:52.359 personal belief is that he was intentionally echoing the insidious God Hates fags motto of 386 00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:57.720 Westboro Baptist Church and so we've invited Davon repeatedly to ask him whether that's what 387 00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:00.720 he was doing. And I I'm not the only person who believes he was 388 00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:04.319 doing that. Many others believe that as well, and they've said so publicly. 389 00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:07.200 And if Dave is to say, oh, no, that's not what 390 00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:10.480 I intended, then, as Dave knows, we'd want to ask him, 391 00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:14.880 well, then what did you mean by God hates flags? And then how 392 00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:19.000 do you explain your other a post you made on behalf of Colorado GOP God 393 00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:26.279 Hates Pride when that's also depicted on the Westboro Baptist Church website. So that's 394 00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:30.000 why we're talking about this because I would think any reasonable person would agree that 395 00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:33.839 if I'm correct, and if others are correct, that that's what Dave was 396 00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:40.279 doing, there's no way he could or should continue as party chair. That's 397 00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:44.960 why his defenders want to escape past this point and don't want to address it 398 00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:49.440 now. Westboro Baptist Church is so hateful that, as I was pointing out 399 00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:56.359 earlier, this is an organization that celebrates the death of American soldiers and pickets 400 00:30:56.400 --> 00:31:00.839 that the funerals of American soldiers. And of course I know ever suggests that 401 00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:06.000 Dave would do either of those. But if in fact he was aligning the 402 00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:12.680 Colorado GOP with a group that's motto as God hates fags and pickets the funerals 403 00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:17.440 of American soldiers, can't we agree that in and of itself he should no 404 00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:22.920 longer continue? So obviously I've asked Brian a fair hypothetical. If that's what 405 00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:27.559 Dave intended, can we agree that he should be gone? Now? I'll 406 00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:30.240 ask Brian again to address it, and if he won't, we'll just have 407 00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:36.039 a polite under the conversation. But what we cannot do when we're discussing an 408 00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:42.000 issue as weighty as this is allow Brian or anybody else attempting to defend Dave 409 00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:47.960 to just avoid this question. This question is at the heart of the issue. 410 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:51.960 So, Brian, I know you're not agreeing with the underlying assumption, 411 00:31:52.839 --> 00:32:00.319 But if it is true that Dave Williams, as party chair was echoing the 412 00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:04.200 message of Westboro Baptist Church, would you agree he should be gone at that 413 00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:08.839 point? Yes, if he agrees with all the views a Westborough church, 414 00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:13.200 I agree he should be gone. No, No, that's not like Brian. 415 00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:16.759 I'll put Brian on pause because again not trying to be rude, Brian 416 00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:20.839 does this all the time. That wasn't my question, and I'll go back 417 00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:23.440 to Brian. My question wasn't if he agrees with all the views of Westboro 418 00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:30.680 Baptist. If Dave Williams as party chair was intending to echo the insidious God 419 00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:39.640 hates fag's motto of Westboro Baptist Church in this publication that he put out on 420 00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:43.720 bef of the colerad or GOP. Would you agree that he should be gone? 421 00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:45.119 And it's fine for you to say no, but I just want to 422 00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:49.480 know your position. Would you agree, Brian, if that's what he intended. 423 00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:53.279 Well, it's a big word, right, it's an assumption. Right, 424 00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:55.759 Hey, have a great weekend, my friend. We love Brian, 425 00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:59.799 we hope he calls often. But see, this is what Dave's defenders are 426 00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:02.079 doing. And I think personally, this is why Dave, who's been on 427 00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:06.680 the show many times and he's been treated so well on the show, that's 428 00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:10.880 why Dave won't come on the show because he can't answer these fair, tough 429 00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:17.920 questions. And once it's established, and I think there are many people who 430 00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:22.480 agree with me that in my opinion, that's clearly what he was doing. 431 00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:28.839 Once it's established, once somebody believes that that's what Dave was doing, then 432 00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:31.160 everybody would have to agree. He couldn't continue his chair. You can't have 433 00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:37.680 a party chair who is echoing that the hateful messaging of Westboro Baptist Church. 434 00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:44.640 So was Dave doing that? Obviously Brian doesn't want to give a direct answer 435 00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:51.160 to that hypothetical, but I hope Dave comes on. He says that those 436 00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:54.440 who oppose him are weak and he's strong. Well, for twenty five years, 437 00:33:54.480 --> 00:34:00.400 this show has been the most friendly and fair place to Republicans of all 438 00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:06.240 stripes, and the track record shows that. So Dave being afraid to come 439 00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:10.280 on this show, how weak is that? Great job Brian Kelly as well. 440 00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:12.559 Have a tremendous Father's Day