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Hello, this is Laura Kane after
dark I know, and the nick of

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time. Eric slips on his headphones. Okay, first of all, there's

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two things. I'm Laura Kane.
By the way, this is Eric Rimmer.

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You look gorgeous. By the way, how much do you want money?

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Because that was really nice. I
don't think you've ever said that to

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me before on the podcast. I
say that to you all the time,

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not on the podcast, I do. But these puppies are a little bit

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like, is that magic hair?
Of course it is? Okay, tape

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on hair? Are you kidding me? Anyway? You can't run my hand

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for your hair. You may not, You may not, you cannot.

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You don't get stuck on the tracks, Okay, please don't out me right

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Brian, Hi, No thanks,
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You sound a little I don't think
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a bad Are you in a good
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in your You're in your Brian mood. You're in a Brian mood. What

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you had? Did you have a
big weekend? Mm? Yeah, I'll

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talk about that a little bit.
Okay, cool, okay? Cool?

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Oh boy? All right, So
we're going to start off. Eric's going

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to start off the host chat because
he has something pretty personal that he wants

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to share with you. And I
can't even imagine how this must feel.

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And please. So I found out
on Saturday. I have one brother from

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my one biological brother, and I
found out Friday that he had passed away.

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And I found out via a family
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Because you were estranged, we were
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were very close all through our adulthood, and then when my mom got sick

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is when things kind of went south. And I had always hope for a

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reconciliation, and it just didn't happen. And so when I found out that

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my brother was sick, I also
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did my best two reach out and
it you did, it didn't happen.

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You reached out, he reached back. It was pretty It wasn't real deep

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or anything at all. It was
very surface kind of You said I love

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you to him. Yeah, we
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lots of stuff has just been kind
of flooding through the last couple of days.

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Are you all right? Yeah,
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I made my peace with it,
and that's all you can do in

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a situation like that. Now you
were telling me how strange it feels.

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It it does because everybody in my
family is gone. Now you are the

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last one standing and the last one
standing. Yeah, mother, your father,

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and now your brother, and my
mom's only sister is gone, and

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your grandparents parents are gone. Eric. Yeah, so it's very weird.

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So, like the last seventy two
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in my head a lot about like
should I And with the exception of my

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grandparents and my father, nobody has
died of cancer we we didn't, it

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didn't run in our family. So
now the last three people have all died

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of different forms of cancer. So
it's one of those things where I'm like,

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well, is that what I'm gonna, you know, go from.

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So I'm just you know, uh, just keeping positive about it. I'm

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just like, you know, if
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happen. There's nothing you can do
about it. So but I do have

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a doctor's appointment on the first Oh
good because they can detect that yr so

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but detectif you markers or whatever.
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of freaked me out. And so
but yeah, I'm going to attend the

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funeral. I feel like it's the
right thing to do for me and just

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kind of to honor my family because
I was very close with my parents and

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my aunt and my brother. Until
it's the right thing to do. Yeah,

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And I thought it's going to be
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very weird. I don't know,
you know, there's kids involved. Yeah,

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and I have not seen them since
two years. No, it's been

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a little over five. Oh oh
wow. Yeah, because I haven't seen

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them since my mom was diagnosed.
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to be very weird. Have you
seen I wanted to ask you if you

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have seen any signs from my brother, from any from any your dad,

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your mom, your well maybe not
your brother quite yet, but my mom.

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Yes, what have you said?
Dragonflies? Okay? Because I so

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believe that they are still here with
us. We might. We just don't

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have the senses. We don't have
the ability to see beyond right. But

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I mean, after you tell the
story about the dragonflies, I have a

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story to tell you that's crazy too. I have two crazy stories that is

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like for me proof that there is
after life. Well, I think I've

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talked about it on the show before. My dad when I was growing up,

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he was we there wasn't cell phones
like I'm old. So there no

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computers, right, there was no
computers in nothing. There was no cellon

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There are bicycles and skateboards and we'd
go up and down the street. We

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wouldn't come home till five and then
we have dinner. We had a black

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and white TV and you had to
get up to turn the cable the three

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channels that was on. So my
dad was the phone that we had,

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the rotary phone that we had on
the wall that I had stretched the cord

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out so far because I would go
out on the patio and talk to my

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girlfriends out there. I'm sure.
Yeah, my dad would be like,

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get off the content, oh my, and the phone the cord was so

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stretched out. So when he died, I had and he died about oh

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gosh. In I think it's been
fifteen or sixteen years. The day he

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died. That night, I had
come home from the hospital and my phone

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rang. I had a landline,
and I picked it up and it was

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just static, Hello, Hello,
hung up. It happened again, and

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so then I didn't think anything about
it. And then my mom called and

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said did you call me? And
I said no, and she's like,

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well, that's weird. The phone
rang, and when I picked it up,

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it was just static at the exact
same time that had happened to me.

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Wow, So it was really weird. I was like, well,

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that was probably because my mom and
I were both guilty of always talking on

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the phone. And is that where
you get it? Oh? Yeah,

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there was no call. Phone talker. Eric is a phone talker. I'm

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so not a phone talker, but
yeah, and I always trying to get

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help the fire. I know.
She's always like, oh, I just

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dropped my napkin. I'm yeah.
I always try to go, oh,

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I got to do a traffic report. I'm sure you do. It's true.

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You're probably sitting there paying your dails. You're just like, oh,

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I want to do this traffic report. Yeah. Yeah. But then my

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mom was dragonflies and and okay,
So my mom heard that you are to

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ask those that have passed to show
you a sign and a color. So

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her brother, my uncle, passed
away many many years ago, and about

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six months after, my mom was
thinking about him her brother and said,

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Pat, I would love to know
that you're okay, and I'd love to

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see show me something in the color
yellow. The next day, she worked

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upstairs. There was like two story
building and the windows were open, there

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were no screens, and she was
a bookkeeper. One day in flies through

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the window a canary and landed on
her head. Canaries are yellow house.

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Okay, so that's crazy. And
then okay, so recently, okay,

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my dad passed away twenty five years
ago and he was sixty years old.

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He was too young to die.
And my best friend Stacy and her parents

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and my parents, we all grow
up grew up together. So my parents

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were friends with her parents, but
my dad and her dad weren't like super

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close. Okay, so that's the
backstory. So her dad recently passed.

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When they went in to clean his
house, everything was neat, everything was

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like he was OCD kind of,
and he didn't know he was going to

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die in the hospital. He didn't
know that he was not that ill,

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but he got ill in the hospital. The only three things he had on

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his desk were two bills and my
dad's funeral card. Like, my dad

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died twenty five years ago, why
didn't he didn't have his wife's or his

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sisters or his mother's. He had
my dad's. That's it. Three things,

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isn't that bizarre? And then one
more thing and then because I and

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then we'll get back to, you
know, talking about your brother. But

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when I before I went to rehab, I was a fifty one fifty you

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know what that is, and so
you have to be three days in a

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mental facility. So I was hysterical. It was it's a very long story,

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but it was really hard. I
didn't know what was going on.

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I didn't know where my kids were. Nobody was talking to me. It

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was like crazy. I was crying, crying, crying. So that night

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I went to sleep in the blue
plastic beds that they have in the mental

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hospital, and I fell asleep.
Then I heard a knock on the door

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of my room. I opened the
door and my dad is standing there.

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Clear, this is so vivid to
me. I can't the colors. What

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he was wearing is like the outfit, like a sweatshirt with a stripe on

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it, and his jeans, and
he looked super healthy. And I remember

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looking at him and thinking he must
I'm looking both scared and surprised and happy

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at the same time. I wonder
what that looks like. And then I

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went to hug him, and I
could feel his shoulder bones and I could

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I went on my tiptoes. I
had to go on my tiptoes to hug

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him because he was tall. And
then he goes, come with me,

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and he took my hand and we
went down the hallway of the hospital and

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then he goes, look what I
can do, and he jumped through the

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ceiling and then he jumped down through
the floor and then he came back up

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and then he said I gotta go. I said, okay, and then

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I woke up and I'm like,
Okay, that was not a dream.

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This is my lowest point in my
life, aside from losing my father.

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And there he was. Yeah,
so I'm telling you they're with you.

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Yeah, my mom the day she
died. They had My dad was a

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landscape archidesc so they their property was
beautiful and I just wanted to take a

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walk around the gardens, and you
know, there was it's called nandina and

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it's a very short form of bamboo, and it's very colorful green, and

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it's red and it gets these red
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along a perimeter of their property in
the front yard. And I got the

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hose and I was just you know, kind of water watering and just kind

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of in my head, and all
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the Nandina comes and my mom loved
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purple dragon like an iridescent purple dragonfly, and it flew around my head and

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then it flew away, and then
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month or two later, I was
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in way out in the desert and
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people that have been through traumatic experiences. And during my lunch break, I

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was walking along this little creek that
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I hadn't seen a dragonfly in I
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dragon one hundred years, Like,
you're not super cool, no, And

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there they were sitting on a little
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by, and they flew up,
flew around my head, and then flew

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back down on the rock. And
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like when I've been hiking and stuff
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you know, I'll just go hi, mom m hmm, yeah,

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gosh, I know. You just
keep your eyes open because I think your

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brother's going to send you signs to
I don't know. Was there a thing

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growing up? But it's not an
anvila like falling on my Oh no,

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when you go to the other side, all is forgiven and everybody's happy.

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That's what I think. Anyway,
piano was going to fall out of window,

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not walking on around eddie ladders or
terrible. That's terrible. Okay,

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Now do you have any double D
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do okay, so, oh,
let's played double D music so we can

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sound like we got our stuff together. Oh my gosh, no, you

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can start the double d's. You
don't need to wave to people on Instagram.

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It's not an intro. It's just
backtrack. Oh it is, that's

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right. The Coachella Festival has experienced
the slowest ticket sales in ten years.

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Passes are still available for both weekends, which in previous years sell out in

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minutes. Who cares, well,
there's no I mean. The headliners include

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Lena del Ray, Dojakat, and
Tyler the Creator. I have no doubt

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idea who. Tyler the Creator is
actually pretty good headliners. Tyler the Creator.

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I saw him when I saw Eminem, Beyonce and uh, Tyler the

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Creator and it was really great Coachell. Oh really, Oh you were there

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that year? Uh huh, I
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performance and it was pretty it was
so I'm a huge Eminem, huge,

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huge, huge, and the Beyonce
it was. Coachell is too packed.

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I can't. I can't. I'm
too old. I'm too old to deal

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with that many people. It's Michael
Tyler anyway, it's fun. It wasn't

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You can't get anything to drink eat, I mean lines, lines, lines,

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But anyway, you would never find
me. Oh my god, you

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would have a panic attack. You
would melt, you would. I don't

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know. I can't do crowds like
that, and it's dirty. I don't.

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I don't houses. No, I
do not pooper pee in an outhouse.

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I will find a bush and risk
getting arrested. My no way,

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you won't be alone, that's the
thing. I will not poop into a

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hole. We're five hundred other people. Please, way were going to happen?

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Oh that was too much. You
have a come on, I don't

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want She's not gonna come up here
now. I know that's the problem.

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She's probably glad that she's saitting.
God, I know that's why I purposely

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do that. John Stewart is returning
to the Daily Show on Comedy Central,

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but only on Monday nights. That's
cool. I heard the week would be

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handled by team of correspondence. He
wasn't good. Yeah, what excuse me?

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You're excused? Oh boy, I
don't think he was that good.

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What do you think Trevor Noah is
like amazing? No? I think political

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commentaries as an entertainment is generally not
fun at all. I think that John

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Stewart was very very clever and witty
and funny, and I he was one

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of those guys that would just poke
issues and then anyone came at him and

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be like, oh, I'm just
a comedian. He was just like,

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yeah, he got kind of tiring. Well, wow, that's okay,

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only Monday nights. Okay, you
can not that you watch that show any

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night? And I don't think are
you guys watching Chris? I tried to

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watch that on Netflix. It's with
Sophia. I can't. I'm not.

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I couldn't get into it. She
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I don't think so. I think
she's so good. Did you try to

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watch clips? I think she wants
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I don't think it's gonna happen.
It's gonna happen. Well, I'm that's

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well, you know that's sweet,
that's nice. Is that all you have

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for Double D's No? Oh,
okay, did you hear Taylor Swift and

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Travis Kelsey are getting engaged? Oh
my, that's a room. At least

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that's what one celebrity astrologer thinks,
and he's an astrologer. Yes, well,

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Laura, you should take that as
fact. Kyle Thomas has been featured

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on tons of outlets, and he
is saying that it's happening. They are

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so they're so cute, they're gonna
have babies, like right away. Oh

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I care I'm a Swift ye,
because I'm kind of like Taylor Swift.

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I do not know who he is
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they're in the they're in the championship, and yeah, of course the one

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year to me, this is the
best. This is the best evidence of

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the NFL is he starts dating Taylor
Swift and they're going to the super Bowl.

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Wait that you think that that's you
think that it's rigged. No,

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but I'm just saying that's the best
evidence we'll ever have is the one he

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just starts day in Taylor Swift and
boom, he's going to the super Bowl.

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So get the most camera time for
her. Good luck charm. That's

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great. It's just he's happy.
So he's playing. Well that's not what

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he's not like a quarterback. Well, so what anyway? That was cool?

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I think I understood out of everything
that you said was tight end all

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I understood out of that whole thing. Else Chaer was again denied conservatorship over

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her son Elijah Allman. Oh,
and he has what issues, substance abuse,

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and she's afraid that he's going to
blow through his whole He gets a

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what do you call it, allowed
trust, his huge trust. That's kind

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of min I mean, that's not
a minor issue. That's kind of a

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minor issue for a conservatorship. Though, well, I guess there's been a

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lot of issues, so yeah,
I mean, look at Brittany. She

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should have like a full like public
you know, collapse to get the conservatorship.

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She had shave her head and hit
someone with a an umbrella. Yeah.

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El Kim Kardashian is producing a Liz
Taylor doc. So now she's a

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producer and she's appearing in it too. Oh my gosh, I will probably

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pass on that. Wait, like
Liz Taylor the clothing brand, No,

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Elizabeth I was thinking about? Tell
me he doesn't know who Elizabeth Taylor is.

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No, I'm kidding, who is
he thinking about? Clothing brand?

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Gloria Vanderbilt. No, you missed
it over the head a little bit.

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That's mine too. Okay. It's
called Elizabeth Taylor Rebels Superstar and it's on

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the BBC and it's a three part
series. Wow. Okay, so she's

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gonna make more money, more money, more money, more money. Well

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okay, that is all. Okay, let's play our intro music and bring

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her on. Yeah, baby joy
maker, wonderful person, always smiling,

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Come up, Lucinda Kay. She
is a reporter at Cogo AM six hundred

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for iHeartRadio here in San Diego.
But not only that, She's been many

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other things, and she is many
other things. And here, Oh,

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this is what I was gonna do. I was gonna I know the way,

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hold the way that this is all
set up. Oh my god,

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thea very well. Now I'm going
to slide out because I'm going to move

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this over there so they can see
her. You guys love your shoes,

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Eric, thank you, thank you. Oh my gosh, I love I

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pretty much wear some version of sneaker
running shoes every day. I have to

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buy clothes to go with my I
buy shoes to go with my so many.

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I think these are the Puma.
It was a a thing that they

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did with Dunkin Donuts. So I
have these shoes in three different styles.

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See, yeah, there's a little
donut on it. Oh my god,

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those are do you know? Do
you honestly like those of them? Really?

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Them? Okay, so I need
to adjust this differently. How's that?

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That's good? You know how to
work a mic? I know.

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I just I don't want to miss
I don't want to mess up whatever.

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Brian, Oh no, he fixes
it. If it's mess he fixed it.

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Okay, he fixed it. So
thank you so much for joining us.

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This is my pleasure. I'm so
honored. You came into the building

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and like me, I will sometimes
you have to pass through sometimes the news

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room to get from traffic over to
like a radio station in the iHeart building.

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And there she was with the biggest
smile and Hi, I'm Lucinda.

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I'm like, oh my god,
you want to come out and play on

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my friends. That girl. I'm
still waiting to find my best friend.

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Oh it? Can we be work
best friends? Oh my god, I

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just I don't have a work best
friend. Oh my god. The hallway.

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Okay, that's awesome. Now when
I was you said, you know

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what that means? What does that
mean? You're going to turn my best

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friend? Yes? Oh, and
you know, well, that means guys

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are gonna make me cry. No, you know what that means, because

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he he claims that I'm his best
friend, but it's not true. He

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has Marla has his best friend,
his girl. They grew up together.

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And that's fine. I'm number two
and I'm fine with that. But then

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there's Karen. I thought you were
number three. I'm neck and neck with

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Karen right now. So if Lucinda
comes in the picture, she's gonna surpass

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I think me for sure. And
there's possibly Karen's levels. There Eric's angels.

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Oh god, that is no.
There needs to be a one to

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two and a three and a four. I'm Charlie and then you in your

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own set. No, that's not
the way to do it. Well,

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Okay, what intrigued me about your
bio that you sent me about your past

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is that you had a really hard
time growing up and that you easily could

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have turned to drugs, alcohol,
a whole different kind of life, but

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you steered in a different direction.
Can you elaborate on that a little bit.

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Yeah, I grew up in a
lot of love and a lot of

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chaos, and a lot of my
mommy and daddy loved me and built me

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up, and then a lot of
really hard times. My daddy was a

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heroin addict and my daddy was clean. Our lives were full of creativity and

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brilliant. Who I haven't talked about, Oh, my daddy for a long

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time. And when he was clean
and sober, then our lives were full

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of vibrancy and creativity. My daddy
was brilliant and he was super talented.

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And my mommy is steady and a
hard ass worker, and she made our

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lives happen. Oh are they still
with us? My mommy is still with

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us. Yeah. And my daddy
odeed when he was forty eight. Oh

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my, oh my god. I'm
how old were you I was? Let's

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see, I guess I was twenty
three. But before that we were gifted

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a full year of sobriety as a
grown up. You know, we'd had

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lots of on and off right through
my childhood, but as a young adult

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then I got to have a full
year with my daddy clean. You know

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Nina's friend. Yeah, that's yeah, it was amazing. How old were

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you at that point? I think
I was twenty three? Oh okay,

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yeah, so you did you make
it like this, did this shit decision

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to just say, like, I'm
not going down that path. I'm going

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to take a totally different turn here. And what made you go into this

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profession? Because I know you've been
on TV news, you've been a TV

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anchor, you've been a radio on
you're in radio now, But like,

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what made you jump into this field? You know, when I when I

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was a little girl, I have
always been full of light and see light

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in others, and so that it
really just afforded me if people always came

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along my path to help look after
me. I have so many mentors in

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my life, so many people helped
me get to where I am today.

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My mommy and all these amazing I
always say, I come from a mighty

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tribe of women. They each Auntie
taught me a different skill and kept me

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on the right track, and I
really paid attention. I was at somebody

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who I didn't have to make my
own version of the same mistake. I

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can go make my own mistakes and
learn from them, but you know,

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I didn't have to repeat the cycles. And I learned very early on that

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I was that I could easily become
one of the statistics. I could easily

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stay in the cycle of poverty and
drugs and crime and choose, you know,

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a dark path to cope, and
instead, you know, I rebelled

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and went toward the light. However, I have like, I'm just surrounded

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by people who helped make that happen. Do you want to give any shout

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out? Oh, my gosh,
my mommy. Everybody calls her mama,

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g mama, g. Where's is
probably watching right now? Yeah, she's

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in Ashlan, Oregon, my hometown. Oh okay, beautiful, Yeah,

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she'll be here soon to visit me. My mommy. No matter where I

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have lived in my career, uh, and I've lived in other countries,

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My mommy always shows up no matter
what or on the timehouse little girl,

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that woman always shows up amazing.
And then all these anties. My aunt

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Gretchen, she's all about practicality,
My Aunt Patty she's all about zen and

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well, let's figure out the right
way to go. And my aunt Loney,

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she just teaches us how to laugh
and laugh and taught me how to

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do my nails. And all of
them are like in the industry hair and

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skin and nails. So I got
to grow up with all these, you

408
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:54.559
know, really lively, creative women. My aunt Leilani taught me how to

409
00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:58.359
paint my nails while I drove a
car. You know. When I was

410
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:04.599
I played Coach Nagel, the football
coach in high school. He was my

411
00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:08.240
first powerlifting and bodybuilding coach. So
he taught me how to be strong mentally

412
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:13.000
and physically and showed me what a
healthy man looks like. You know what

413
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:16.000
I mean. I mean, the
my list is long, y'all. It's

414
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:21.559
a really long at all times in
our life. I believe that we should

415
00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:23.240
have people we look after, and
we should have people who look after us.

416
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:29.839
So did you That's interesting because did
you Growing up? It sounds like

417
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:35.039
you gravitated more towards adults. Yes, yeah, that is true. And

418
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:37.160
I'm a big sister, like through
and through, and I have a baby

419
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:42.759
sister, My baby sister, Sarah. She's like, oh, she's just

420
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:46.319
such a gentle little bean. I'm
like sturdy cotton and she's like silky linen.

421
00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:51.799
You know, she's all silent my
oldness, you know what I mean.

422
00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:54.839
And I was a legit big sister
probably had to, you know,

423
00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:59.480
like I tried to control things,
you know, as a big sister does.

424
00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:04.160
In those kinds of households that I
could save the day and save all

425
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:07.079
the humans, and you know,
I had to learn my way through that.

426
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:08.679
Yeah, it's sure. I'm a
big sister too, I know what

427
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:13.360
you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, because I mean, did you did?

428
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:15.159
Did you do? I preferred to
hang out with adults that I did

429
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:19.519
people my own age. I always
hung out with people that were older than

430
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:22.400
me. Yeah. Yeah, it's
so weird the profession that we're all,

431
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:27.880
I know, kind of in because
I never because we we wanted mentors and

432
00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:30.159
weird. Yeah, and look at
Brian. Brian is twenty three right now.

433
00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:36.400
Oh god, you're my mentor.
I'm not saying no, that is

434
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:38.920
not well. I'm just saying that
you well, on Monday nights anyway,

435
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:43.320
you hang out with people who are
way older than you are, and in

436
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:47.559
my case, way older, and
Mike is way older. Oh yeah,

437
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:53.880
I forgot g A birthed him geese. Anyway, you when did you come

438
00:34:54.000 --> 00:35:00.880
up with Lucinda's goodness? Oh,
you know that's funny because I've been in

439
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:05.599
the business since nineteen ninety four in
TV for a long time, consulted and

440
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:09.800
this is my second radio gigs as
a news anchor, and no matter what

441
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:15.559
market I've worked in, they have
come to me and said, could you

442
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:22.800
please create a series called And it's
always been some version of Lucinda's Goodness,

443
00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:27.280
it just might have had a different
name in the various markets. And I

444
00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:31.360
do a lot of coaching and I
get to write and a lot of people

445
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:36.519
will say, uh, oh,
that's Lucinda's Goodness or what's your goodness today?

446
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:39.639
Loose, just like in general conversation. So then when talking with you

447
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:44.280
know are great bosses there, and
iHeart and Cogo, Cliff and Mary.

448
00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:49.039
They're so amazing. Cliff was like, I did some really sweet, fun

449
00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:52.719
story that had a bunch of little
kids in it, and he said,

450
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:55.280
do you know that story you did
last week with the little kids? That's

451
00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:59.840
what I want from I want a
series like that. And I'm like,

452
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:04.000
yeah, that's exact because I already
know it's coming, right, That's that's

453
00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:07.519
part of my mission and in this
in this life is to find light and

454
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:12.559
shine it more brightly and give people
a platform to shine brightly. So I

455
00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:15.480
always know it's coming, and so
I got excited. I get excited when

456
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:19.079
I'm like, Okay, here it
comes and He's like, now, we

457
00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:23.320
just got to figure out what to
call it, and I'm like, Lucinda's

458
00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:29.280
Goodness. He's like, yes,
that's exactly what I was thinking. Like,

459
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:34.039
I know, now, do you
do a report every day? Do

460
00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:37.079
you do one every week? Is
it weekly? Is it like is it

461
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:38.840
like a time the week we can
tune in and hear it. Yeah,

462
00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:42.400
yeah, for sure. So you
know, I'm a news anchor, so

463
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:49.079
I do cover all the regular news
every day, but my Lucinda's Goodness airs

464
00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:52.239
every single day. It's a daily
and you can hear it at six twenty

465
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:57.159
five am, eight twenty five am, and then it's on the iHeart radio

466
00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:00.920
app and you just have to look
up Lucinda's Goodness and they're all right there.

467
00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:06.920
Oh fabulous. I hope you've liked
them. And they come from around

468
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:10.679
the world. So anyone who has
great story ideas for Lucinda's Goodness, you

469
00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:15.719
just have to send me a message. It's it's global. I do stories

470
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:17.719
from I interview people all around the
world. You know, what was your

471
00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:22.159
last story? Oh gosh, what
was my story? Sometimes I forget what

472
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:25.519
I do. I know, maybe
maybe one of your favorite Oh I have

473
00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:31.199
that's too hard. You know.
I really love stories where children are doing

474
00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:36.079
the right thing. I think my
goodness this morning was about a high school

475
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:40.039
senior where she is like a four
point six y five GPA and she's a

476
00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:46.440
star on the basketball court, and
she's in the San Diego Police Cadet Academy

477
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:52.079
and she has applied to one hundred
and fifty nine colleges and they've all said

478
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:58.920
yes, Oh my gosh, yeah, So that's a beautiful young woman.

479
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:07.360
The a rookie superstar football player from
the Rams is paying to send a retired

480
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:13.920
airman to the Super Bowl. Gosh, girl, Scout cookies are coming up.

481
00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:15.920
And last year I interviewed these two
little tiny sisters, you know,

482
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:22.800
and they all like they sang their
math songs, had at everything up.

483
00:38:23.199 --> 00:38:29.039
I just the thing about goodness is
that it's supposed to be a moment of

484
00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:35.320
respite. It's a chuckle, it's
sweet, it's kindness, it's it's nonprofit

485
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:39.519
work, it's it's uh it's not
always uh light. Sometimes it's heavy.

486
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:45.920
You know. Last week I talked
about suicide rates among our military and that

487
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:52.480
there's a new federal program in place
that makes it so any service member can

488
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:59.599
can receive free crisis care, whether
it's a VA or a regular hospital or

489
00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:06.639
a doctor office. So that's a
brand new federal policy and it saved like

490
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:13.199
fifty one thousand. Oh my already. Yeah wow, Now that's good news.

491
00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:19.960
Yeah wow. And your family has
a charity, great shape in nonprofit,

492
00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:22.119
so we'll tell us about that.
And it's in your yeah, great

493
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:27.159
shape in corporated. We were founded
in nineteen eighty eight. Uh. It

494
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:30.960
is through service, really that we
found freedom. Who's we you and your

495
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:35.639
mom? Yea in my family,
yes, So, my mommy had never

496
00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:37.039
been out of the country. And
my Aunt Patty, who I told you

497
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:40.519
about, she's done a lot of
traveling and she is a flower child through

498
00:39:42.280 --> 00:39:46.599
and through. She has often shown
up just when you need her most.

499
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:52.679
And my mommy hadn't been anywhere.
And it's after we'd gone through a particularly

500
00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:58.280
hard time with my daddy and he
didn't live in the house in the anymore.

501
00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:00.480
And my Aunt Patty says, time
for you to go on an adventure.

502
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:05.480
It's time for you to set yourself
free. So she took my mama

503
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:08.360
to Jamaica in the early eighties.
And my mama says, as soon as

504
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:14.960
she stepped off that plane, she
just felt like she was home. Really,

505
00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:19.400
Oh, that's beauty in my family, no matter where we stand,

506
00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:22.920
we make family. So you know, y'all are my family, right,

507
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:30.199
Like that's just how that's how we
operate in my village. And so then

508
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:34.159
my baby sister, and then we
got to start going to Jamaica because we

509
00:40:34.280 --> 00:40:37.039
made family in Jamaica. And then
a nineteen eighty eight Hurricane Gilbert hit the

510
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:43.119
island, decimated the island, and
our friends and family were suffering, and

511
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:45.480
so we threw a reggae party.
I was a senior in high school,

512
00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:52.239
and we gathered up money and supplies, and my mommy was on the first

513
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:55.280
plane into Jamaica allowed in after the
hurricane. And my mommy in those days

514
00:40:55.320 --> 00:41:00.679
could hardly speak her own name,
she was so shy. And now I

515
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:06.360
can write speeches for her and she
leads humanitarian projects and she's the ambassador.

516
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:12.079
So we grew from this Duffel Bag
charity to now fast forward and we lead

517
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:15.360
some of the world's largest international humanitarian
projects. Dental care, eye care,

518
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:22.599
literacy programs, computers, teacher training. Everyone. Everyone is welcome because we

519
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:27.920
have a job for you and sandals
Resorts International Sandal's Foundation. They are a

520
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:31.800
number one sponsor, so they host
all of our volunteers at no charge.

521
00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:35.960
You come for one week or two
weeks. You work your ass off in

522
00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:38.800
the dick. Can I say ass? You can say if you want to,

523
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:43.119
but don't. But I know you
wouldn't want to say that because I

524
00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:45.320
actually learned how to say the F
word in my forties. But my mama

525
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:49.280
still doesn't like it. No,
no, mama, And if moms no,

526
00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:51.480
no, no, no no.
But you work your ass off in

527
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:54.280
the daytime and then you live it
up at nighttime. And Sandal's is Jamaican

528
00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:59.400
owned and now we serve on several
of their other islands where they exist.

529
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:02.760
Okay, so so you two should
come, you three. I will love

530
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:06.639
that because I would love to help
people. And then, of course I've

531
00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:10.960
always wanted to go to Jamaica and
I think the people there are probably incredible.

532
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:16.480
Yeah, so how imagine this group
on a plane together. Awesome,

533
00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:24.719
I would be and everybody would love
it because a laughter and sure, yeah,

534
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:31.679
just like his last airplane ride.
Oh I heard about your delight was

535
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:36.000
such a delight. Yeah, right, I would have stood up for you.

536
00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:38.559
Thank you. Yeah, big time. Yeah, I think a lot

537
00:42:38.639 --> 00:42:43.840
of people would have would have heard
that. Sure, So how does one

538
00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:49.239
get a hold of you Great Shape
Incorporated or becoming involved in this? Yeah?

539
00:42:49.239 --> 00:42:52.039
All you have to do is we
have our website great shape ink dot

540
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:58.639
org, great Shaping dot org and
you can check out all the projects there.

541
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:04.199
It's almost time to announce our dates. We receive the new list usually

542
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:07.960
each February, and so then we'll
post the new dates. So we have

543
00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:10.719
like a ninety two percent return rate
on our volunteers, so it moves fast.

544
00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:15.760
If you want to go like you
should apply to go quickly, and

545
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:21.239
everybody just like sits waiting for the
announcement of the dates of their particular projects.

546
00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:23.199
Some people go back to the same
project every year and it's like a

547
00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:28.360
reunion for them. Other people try
new projects. And it doesn't matter what

548
00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:31.719
you do for a living or what
age you are. We'll put you to

549
00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:35.880
work. We'll train you. We
have orientations and part of the curriculum I

550
00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:40.199
right, is un collaborative communication because
you've got to turn a group of strangers

551
00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:44.719
into a synergistic team in twenty four
hours. Oh that be Laura and I

552
00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:49.000
you Laura and I yeah, boom
oh boom done. Yeah, you're a

553
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:52.719
communications like coach. Is that what
you were talking about? Like, is

554
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:55.280
that to try to get people to
work as best as they can as a

555
00:43:55.360 --> 00:43:59.960
team, right? Yeah, So
individually I teach people to share their story

556
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:02.559
more effectively, get more in touch
with themselves, and then be able to

557
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:07.400
communicate it. And then with teams
like that, then I teach the art

558
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:14.400
of the exhale, focused messaging and
engaged listening, and we have protocols and

559
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:20.639
what's focusing messaging? Focused messaging?
Yeah, yeah, that's where you are

560
00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:23.400
so clear about what it is you
want to say. You can speak it

561
00:44:23.480 --> 00:44:28.079
in one sentence and you just stick
to that. Like let's say you're in

562
00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:32.679
an argument. Okay, let's say
let's say you guys are having a slumber

563
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:37.039
party and somebody, you know,
they leave the wet towel on the floor,

564
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:42.320
and they spit the toothpaste on the
mirror, and they don't make the

565
00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:45.679
bed, and they like the ac
really cold, and you like to be

566
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:49.599
really warm. But you still have
to get where you need to get in

567
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:52.719
the morning, right, You still
need to be on time seven am.

568
00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:55.639
And the one person takes a really
long shower and the other person is super

569
00:44:55.719 --> 00:45:00.639
kid quick, like I can get
ready twenty two seconds super fast. Okay,

570
00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:04.400
So then you get an argument about
that. Normally you're gonna be like,

571
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.599
man, I'm sick of the towel
and the toothpaste and the bad and

572
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:10.159
it's too cold in here, and
you're so thoughtless. What is the other

573
00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:14.360
person going to do? I know
what you say, get out of my

574
00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:19.960
house? Right, It's an option, do you It is an option.

575
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:23.159
Sure, start with something positive and
then say say the thing and then end

576
00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:28.280
with something positive. Sandwich it.
You could do that. However, your

577
00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:30.800
goal is to get where you need
to get on time. True, okay,

578
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:36.519
okay, So that means really the
one thing that you need to work

579
00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:39.039
out is the shower time. Cause
you can get ready on time. If

580
00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:42.199
there is a towel on floor,
you can get ready on time. If

581
00:45:42.199 --> 00:45:45.480
you've been too cold, unless you
didn't get enough sleep, all those things

582
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:49.880
aren't necessarily affecting you getting somewhere on
time. But if someone takes an hour's

583
00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:53.760
shower and you are outside waiting outside
the door, so you say, what's

584
00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:59.199
my You ask yourself, what is
my goal in this conversation? My goal

585
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:01.239
is to get to work on time, or my goal is to get a

586
00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:06.840
hot date, or my goal is
to receive permission for this or consent for

587
00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:09.199
that, or what. You decide
what your goal is, and you only

588
00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:16.000
share information to back that up.
So you say, I notice you like

589
00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:21.639
to take a really long shower,
and that must feel really good. The

590
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:23.639
other person's like, yeah, I'm
down from the long shower. I gotta

591
00:46:23.719 --> 00:46:30.880
do ABCDEF and G. And then
you can say, I am actually very

592
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:34.039
fast in the shower. I wonder
if I could get in the shower first.

593
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:37.320
I'll be out in twenty two seconds, and then you can have the

594
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:40.320
bathroom all to yourself and I will
have already left for work. That was

595
00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:45.679
non confrontational. That was actually nice. Yeah, I didn't feel any kind

596
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:50.039
of yeah, say what you want, say what you need in a really

597
00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:54.000
clear way. So many folks just
like dance. They yes, they did

598
00:46:54.400 --> 00:47:00.360
so caught up and being irritated,
and you know today, Hey, I

599
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:04.360
had to go in and have a
conversation with a boss and I didn't really

600
00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:07.199
need anything to be fixed. I
just wanted to be heard, and so

601
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:08.679
that's what I said. I said, do you have a minute for me

602
00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:13.480
to share some irritations I'm having.
I don't need you to do anything about

603
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:16.440
it. I just want to be
I just need to speak it. They're

604
00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:22.119
like, yeah, come on in
how to go great? But it actually

605
00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:28.440
became like an hour long conversation of
right ideas and you know, how how

606
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:30.599
can we influence, how can we
collaborate, how can we all be working

607
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:36.199
together? You know, of course, of course. Yeah. Another thing

608
00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:42.119
that I saw was that you could
be convinced to do some Carrie yoke.

609
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:46.920
There's a great karaoke place right here
on Washington Oh Way, It's called the

610
00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:52.119
Lamplighter. Oh my gosh, you
do love karaoke? Okay, go to

611
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:55.360
what's your go to song? It's
always old country stuff like Patsy Klein.

612
00:47:55.880 --> 00:48:01.000
Oh really crazy creative juices are stirring
right now. Oh what do you mean

613
00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:06.920
by you guys sing karaoke? I
know, but yes, I do something.

614
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:10.559
I have many many. I get
nervous though, so I really I

615
00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:15.760
only stick to a very short list
of songs. Us to Jodie's house.

616
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:20.360
I know our friend Jody has karaoke
parties all the time. Oh my god,

617
00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:22.599
Okay, this is the song I
used to pick because I used to

618
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:28.480
think that I could sing it well, but I never could. You know

619
00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:30.719
that song by Bonnie Raid, I
Can't make You Love Me? I would

620
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:35.119
get up. That's a hard one. I know what what is my problem?

621
00:48:35.199 --> 00:48:38.280
People are part of a Saturday night
karaoke and I'm like, and I

622
00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:45.760
can't make you love me? You
guys to remember the days when karaoke was

623
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:50.199
karaoke and people would show up at
the bar with their own headset. There

624
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:53.159
used to be this guy who always
got in line first, and he'd have

625
00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:58.559
his own headset, and so during
the instrumental interludes, he'd go order his

626
00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:01.400
beer. He was like six'
five, super skinny. I can see

627
00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:05.760
him clear as day. And this
is way back in the day. Oh

628
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:09.079
my gosh. Yeah. Okay,
you were talking about goals do you have?

629
00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:15.119
I mean you've seen like you've reached
all your dreams, Like, do

630
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:17.320
you have a goal? Do you
have a dream? What is your dream?

631
00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:22.440
I have a lot of dreams,
Okay, I really and I have

632
00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:30.119
a lot. I've really worked hard
to set intentions. For example, I

633
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:37.320
can muscle my way through anything physically
and mensely. I can physically and mentally,

634
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:39.960
I can muscle my way through it
and so my goal, my intention

635
00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:45.960
would have been trying to learn the
last eight years, is to have more

636
00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:52.039
finesse, to have more ease in
it. Not everything. I don't have

637
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:57.880
to fix everything. I certainly can. I'm very solution oriented, extremely resourceful,

638
00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:01.039
but I don't have to. I
also don't need to use all my

639
00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:07.840
muscles in every situation. I can
listen, I can be quiet, I

640
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:13.440
can just love you, you know
what I mean. I can be softer

641
00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:19.639
even. I went to the Roast
City School of Burlesque in Portland, Oregon

642
00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:24.239
because I came out of a hard
relationship and I needed to find myself again.

643
00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:28.320
And because I can muscle my way
through everything. I'm like sporty spice,

644
00:50:28.360 --> 00:50:31.039
I move like this. So I
went to the School of Burlesque so

645
00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:37.639
that I could learn how to have
more ease in my body, be more

646
00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:43.280
sensual, I guess would be the
word, but really, just oh wow,

647
00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:46.800
how fun you can? I mean
the first group and everybody's sitting in

648
00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:52.119
a circle. It is so emotional. All sizes, shapes, types of

649
00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:57.519
people, and all there for a
seemingly different reason, but really all the

650
00:50:57.599 --> 00:51:01.679
same reason. Just to find our
way, find a new way within ourselves.

651
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:07.119
Some people could hardly even roll their
shoulders. Now I know how to

652
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:10.880
be on stage. I know that
even if I can't dance or I forget

653
00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:15.000
something, I can still be on
stage and I will still be alive after

654
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:19.639
the fact. But not all the
people in the class knew that they had

655
00:51:19.760 --> 00:51:22.760
no idea that they could survive.
And so to go from the first day

656
00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:27.679
where they could hardly do a shoulder
rolled to warm up to their own version

657
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:32.559
of a strut, swagger across the
stage, shirt open, It's like it

658
00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:38.519
was the most beautiful, empowering experience. And of course my mommy and my

659
00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:44.920
aunties flew to Portland or come to
my east side. All where did she

660
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:46.800
fly when you lived over? You
said you lived out of the country.

661
00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:52.719
Where did you know? I've lived
in Central America, South America, Jamaica,

662
00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:55.000
she's lived she lives in and out
of Jamaica right. Well, But

663
00:51:57.440 --> 00:52:02.519
Eastern Washington, where's they Okay,
what's what's what city is there? That's

664
00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:08.000
like Kennewick, Richland, Pasco.
Eastern They took really good care of me.

665
00:52:08.079 --> 00:52:13.440
I love that community. Shout out, you know to try cities and

666
00:52:13.559 --> 00:52:17.719
Spokane, but those aren't necessarily like
my mommy loves the tropics. She loves

667
00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:22.079
to be warm. We're very My
hair is sticky. Is she still in

668
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:25.760
organ then okay? And I want
her to move. I want her to

669
00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:30.440
ye, yes, yeah, she
she need to manifest a home. You

670
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:34.159
Oh, you asked about goals.
That's what we started to talk about.

671
00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:37.320
Sorry, it okay. I took
us on a little journey there. That's

672
00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:42.400
I loved it. It was fun
of finesse. But I want I would

673
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:46.920
love to have like a home or
like a few cottages and mommies in one

674
00:52:47.239 --> 00:52:52.880
and mardos. Yeah. We it
needs a better word than compound, but

675
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:55.360
that's it. In community. I
want us all to live in community with

676
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:59.239
each other. You guys can live
there. You know what I'm saying,

677
00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:02.599
Like, oh my gosh, that
is okay, because we're gonna we're gonna

678
00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:06.719
grow old together. We've decided and
we're gonna like we're gonna stay. We're

679
00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:09.119
gonna lay in the same bed like
Willie walk a style like the grandparents and

680
00:53:09.159 --> 00:53:13.679
Willy Walker. We're gonna have all
the streaming services. We're gonna order door

681
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:17.599
dash every day and do all the
fun things so we can be in one

682
00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:21.360
of your cottages. Yeah, oh
my gosh, and we don't ask for

683
00:53:21.480 --> 00:53:27.079
much. Very clean. I'm very
clean. I eat. Do you like

684
00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:30.599
to clean after other people? Yeah? Okay, because well that would be

685
00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:35.840
me. I'm not the cleanest person
in the world. But you know what,

686
00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:37.840
some of us need a little help. We all, you know,

687
00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:43.400
bring our gifts and define it us. And then if if I'm annoying you

688
00:53:43.480 --> 00:53:45.239
too much, then you'll come with
me with a very clear message, right,

689
00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:52.199
a very very message for me.
Do you need to take a walk

690
00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:57.519
outside? I use that one.
Then I know, and then I knows

691
00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:01.079
for three and a half months now
to go outside. I do have a

692
00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:07.119
very funny story for you regarding Lacey
Washington. Okay, oh yeah, yes.

693
00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:12.639
So one of my first trips up
to Washington, I was planning a

694
00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:16.440
very fun event and I thought,
we'll go We'll go to a winery,

695
00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:21.480
you know, because I heard that
they have such great well, all the

696
00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:23.800
great wineries were so far away.
They were like, I was like,

697
00:54:24.199 --> 00:54:29.280
nobody's gonna drive four and a half
hours to one of these places. So

698
00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:32.559
I found one called the Medicine Creek
Winery. Maybe I should have said that,

699
00:54:32.639 --> 00:54:37.039
but anyway, Oh, it was
very close. It was in Lacey,

700
00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:43.760
Washington, and everybody said, we've
never heard of it. Well you'll

701
00:54:43.800 --> 00:54:49.599
know why. So we're driving,
driving, and we get to where it's

702
00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:53.760
a just trailer parks everywhere, right, and I'm like, oh boy,

703
00:54:55.840 --> 00:55:00.440
I don't know winery being in this
area. I'm not sure, you know.

704
00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:05.920
And there's just dogs running everywhere,
and and I I said, oh

705
00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:07.159
gosh, I don't know. We
turn and we go down this road and

706
00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:13.039
it pull up to the winery and
it's beautiful. And then we drive through

707
00:55:13.039 --> 00:55:16.360
the gates and in Washington, you
know, they're called honey pots. The

708
00:55:17.519 --> 00:55:24.840
what are what honey what is the
honey pot? Honey pot? But that

709
00:55:25.039 --> 00:55:30.280
is like sweet, I know,
for a horrible little building. And so

710
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:37.360
it's just weeds and there's these guys
with just like ponytails, and there setting

711
00:55:37.440 --> 00:55:42.880
up these rickety plastic tables with rickety
plastic chairs, and I'm like, I

712
00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:45.639
don't think. And then we I
look forward and in one of the trailers

713
00:55:45.679 --> 00:55:50.920
that's on the property, it's looked
like rabid dogs like tearing apart in the

714
00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:52.800
back of a couch and the screen
was pusted out. The mall, Turn

715
00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:57.000
the car around, Turn the car
around, turn the car round and friends

716
00:55:57.039 --> 00:55:59.199
like, why what's that? And
I'm all, no, no, no,

717
00:55:59.280 --> 00:56:01.000
no no, I've seen in the
Texas chainsaw mask. We gotta get.

718
00:56:01.920 --> 00:56:05.000
I was like no, no,
no, no no, And we

719
00:56:05.119 --> 00:56:08.719
were out of Lacey so fast,
and we never came when you were saying,

720
00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:13.159
you know, like there's a lot
of good wine that comes out of

721
00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:15.199
there. Now. I did some
of the early stories when I worked there

722
00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:20.119
on wineries and hops, you know, when hops, when I were first

723
00:56:20.119 --> 00:56:25.920
starting to grow. Hops started in
eastern Washington. Every there's breweries everywhere.

724
00:56:27.079 --> 00:56:30.800
Now, what's your favorite movie?
Oh gosh, or your top three?

725
00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:37.360
I love movies like about trials and
tribulations and coming out the other side.

726
00:56:37.400 --> 00:56:44.079
I'm watching a and I like fun
series like I'm watching sex Education. Oh

727
00:56:44.199 --> 00:56:46.000
yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
I've started. Yeah, I watched a

728
00:56:46.039 --> 00:56:49.880
couple of those. Yeah, I'm
great. And it makes me chuckle because

729
00:56:50.159 --> 00:56:53.880
my friend Dub Barnes, who I
collaborate with a lots, I I always

730
00:56:54.519 --> 00:57:00.519
am talking about safe sex and I
take the opportunity to talk about bodies and

731
00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:05.280
consent and all of that. But
I just do it everywhere and she's always

732
00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:08.239
like, why do you even have
to talk to the like the server about

733
00:57:08.280 --> 00:57:12.199
safe sets, and I'm like,
can she tell me she was going on

734
00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:15.480
a date tonight? And she looks
about eighteen nineteen. I want to make

735
00:57:15.559 --> 00:57:21.119
sure she's well prepared. But so
I like that show sex Education because it

736
00:57:21.199 --> 00:57:24.000
kind of reminds have you watched Bonded? No? No, oh no,

737
00:57:24.239 --> 00:57:29.679
my she recommended this to my mom
and my my auntie Doodoo, who's my

738
00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:34.840
mom's best friend, because they're looking
for something. It's like like bondage and

739
00:57:34.880 --> 00:57:38.760
stuff like. It is hilarious.
Try it. Yeah, it's very fun.

740
00:57:39.159 --> 00:57:44.760
Don't watch Sulburn. Okay, you
won't like it. It's not it's

741
00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:46.920
not up your alley. Actually,
I think I've seen trayl and I was

742
00:57:47.000 --> 00:57:50.719
like, oh that that's see,
that's totally up my alley. You'd like

743
00:57:51.159 --> 00:57:55.199
la. No, I don't think
she'd like it's not happy, that's notation

744
00:57:57.039 --> 00:58:00.599
true, but she has to be. She's a drug dealer. I don't

745
00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:07.119
think that. Yeah, but they're
breaking bad oh no. So if this

746
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:10.280
is about a dress, it was
it's too too much, too close to

747
00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:16.159
home to yeah, to uneasy in
my But this is a little different because

748
00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:22.639
she does it for her family to
give them a better life. She like

749
00:58:22.760 --> 00:58:25.599
she doesn't sample her own product and
stuff like that, but it's it's a

750
00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:30.039
it's a good story so far.
I try not to just I try not

751
00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:34.119
to say no from the get go
to anything like you know, check it

752
00:58:34.199 --> 00:58:43.679
out, Grayson, Frankie. Have
you watched and Georgia Georgia? But I've

753
00:58:43.719 --> 00:58:46.159
seen them there. So I also
watch a lot of n c I s

754
00:58:46.320 --> 00:58:52.599
with my sweetheart Marcos. It's like
just easy watching and it's kind of a

755
00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:54.840
chuckle because we started it from the
very beginning. I never used to a

756
00:58:54.920 --> 00:59:00.280
lot of people do that. I
have done that. You watch TV quite

757
00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:02.400
you know that often. I just
didn't have that life. So now I've

758
00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:07.039
seen a lot more because of streaming. But we watch an NCIS. It

759
00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:10.440
has a beginning, middle and ending. People do the right thing. It's

760
00:59:10.840 --> 00:59:16.440
interesting enough where you're like, what's
happening here? You know? It's CIS.

761
00:59:16.599 --> 00:59:20.679
Yes, I love it. Well, you know what, it's just

762
00:59:20.800 --> 00:59:24.880
been an absolute joy having you are
you are incredible? All right, No,

763
00:59:25.239 --> 00:59:29.039
it's already it's been an hour already, and we got to let these

764
00:59:29.079 --> 00:59:34.000
the outgo party. I know,
yeah, we'll go to the Lamplighter perh.

765
00:59:34.079 --> 00:59:36.920
My gosh, Okay, so at
the end of our podcast, we

766
00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:39.320
say a little something. We say, we say something. I'll say it

767
00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:42.519
first, then you say it,
and then Eric will say it, and

768
00:59:42.559 --> 00:59:45.679
then we'll say goodbye. When we
have guests, I don't drag it out.

769
00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:47.480
I know he drags it out when
we don't have guests, and it

770
00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:51.880
annoys me, and he likes it
because it annoys me. Anyway, thank

771
00:59:51.920 --> 00:59:54.360
you for watching on Instagram, you
guys nice. Thank you so much for

772
00:59:54.440 --> 00:59:59.280
watching on YouTube, and thank you
for listening after the fact and watching it

773
00:59:59.440 --> 01:00:04.599
and whatever. And we love you
guys, and love your podcast. Loving

774
01:00:04.679 --> 01:00:08.000
Oh I say it. Oh,
I should have. I should have pointed

775
01:00:08.119 --> 01:00:12.960
to you. Actually that was steep, but I pointed to the cameras before

776
01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:15.639
I say love your podcast. I
want to say I love you, Eric,

777
01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:19.920
I love you, thank you,
thank you. I'm so grateful for

778
01:00:20.039 --> 01:00:22.599
this time and grateful you two are
out here on the planet doing all.

779
01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:28.320
And welcome to our Yeah, welcome
to the best Yeah, look at the

780
01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:31.760
bestie the race, the best ee
race. Okay, now tell me what

781
01:00:31.800 --> 01:00:36.000
I'm supposed to say. Love your
podcast, Love your podcast. Okay,

782
01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:39.280
love your podcast. I love you, my sweet babies. Bye bye.

783
01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:40.960
My God,

