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I haven't recovered. I'm still in
the holidays twenty twenty three and living vicariously.

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I mentioned the last time that I
have this wonderful tree up. It's

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a digital tree that you've been into
shape, and that's my holiday spirit.

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And I gotta say this, I'm
having trouble getting into the new year,

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and I'm going to kind of follow
when I do this every year. I've

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done as an excuse the last couple
of years following the Chinese New Year tradition

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and Chinese New Year's for them.
For us, we're all on one big

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happy family. Here is Saturday,
February tenth. Here in San Francisco,

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they have a big parade with fireworks. It's really the only place you can

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shoot off fireworks because they're illegal,
and we have huge fires that are set

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off by fireworks, so you're not
allowed to shoot them off anyplace else any

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other counties in Northern California. But
I'm adjusting the best I can. And

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I mean, you kind of know
what I'm talking about. It's like you're

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gearing up for the new year,
and I'm not having problems gearing up.

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I'm just doing it slowly and times
flying, so it just takes time,

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and I'm doing the best I can
do it just well, some of them.

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The granite in the Great Pyramid comes
from more than five hundred miles to

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the south. If you look at
the famous King's Chamber, it's walls and

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it's roof are the ceiling of the
King's Chamber are all made with gigantic granite

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blocks. Stunning detail, stunning detail. Those blocks on the and the roof

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of the King's Chamber weighs seventy tons
each. Now, Egyptologists will tell you

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that, oh, they could move
heavy blocks because they put them on wet

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sand and they pushed them along on
wet sand. Well, maybe if you're

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just at ground level, that will
do. But when you're three hundred and

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fifty feet above the ground, as
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won't do it at all. I
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I know is they did it.
I don't think anybody knows how they did

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it, how they lifted those stones, how they brought them up to that

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level. I think we're looking again
at a lost technology, and it was

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this ancient apocalypse twelve eight hundred years
ago that wiped that from the human memory

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banks almost completely, not entirely completely, because they were survivors. That's Graham

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Hancock talking about the anomalies of the
Great Pyramid and the evidence for a very

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early but highly sophisticated people that were
around before the Younger Driest, prior to

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twelve five hundred years ago. That's
kind of a key point in our program

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today centers around evidence for our lost
civilization. So I've had people over the

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years speaking about evidence of unusual science, unusual technology in stone works, and

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we know now that it appears that
megalithic cultures that use huge blocks of granite

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to build their temples, in some
cases pyramids, buildings, even statuary fall

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into a class of Homo sapien sapiens
that are working in megalithic stone work.

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Call it's a class of Homo sapien
sapiens that is unknown to us. Egyptologists

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archaeologists seem to think that it's a
natural occurrence to take a seven hundred ton

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block of granite and carve it into
an obelisk with such a level of perfection

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that you can use a middle square
measuring device and it was perfectly formed,

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perfectly cut. These aren't things that
are done by hand. These are things

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that are done with machinery. And
so today we're speaking about a new author

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who is going to present a great
deal of new and exciting evidence for this

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earlier culture. And you know,
if I'm honest with you, most of

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the people who come on the show
who are presenting information about evidence for advanced

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culture before written history. I'm going
to ask him blank, flat out,

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And I think I mentioned this to
Graham or right asked him, is who

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are these Preediluvians? Are they smarter
than us? Do they possess an earlier

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science and knowledge that we're unaware of? That's a big plus right there.

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And how do they look? Are
they Homo sabian sapiens? Now my guest

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today is Alexdcheesshkovich, and he is
coming to us from Poland. The book

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we're talking about is deja Vu?
Has everything already been in search of previous

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laws? Civilizations? And not only
was I impressed with this guy, I

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was flabbergacid to know at the end, and he doesn't mention it on the

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interview. It's only twenty years old. He wrote this book while he was

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in high school, and that is
amazing. The other thing is. He's

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multi lingual. He speaks number of
languages, and he wrote it originally in

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Polish and then he wrote it again. It took him a year, he

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said in English. And when you
read this book, it's well, the

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grammar's excellent, the punctuation is excellent. And I got to tell you,

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there's a lot of people that submit
books that I read, and I read

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between don't read, but I get
between three and five books a week to

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review. A lot of people have
not edited their books. And nothing is

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more cringe worthy than an unedited,
poorly written book. It just drives you

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nuts. You want to drop it. I unfortunately have to look at the

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good, the bad, and the
ugly when it comes to Destiny, Earth

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the Archives. Hopefully the archives are books

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that I've already talked about, but
sometimes I might bring in a book to

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consider. So Alex has done an
adverb job in this book. And this

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is our program today. Listen very
closely to what he has to say about

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technology, because this is the next
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and investigate questions about our ancient past. Sava Tours is well organized. Everything

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flowed easily. It was a fantastic
tour from beginning to end. To be

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honest, I was shocked by the
private visits. I could not believe that

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we were lucky enough to experience those. That's from one of the many people

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who do the Earth Ancients Grand Egyptian
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year and we're looking forward to our
next program. That's this April twenty eight

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through May fifth, and it is
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private tour with our host, Mohammed
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Pyramid, so much more, and
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The Earth Ancients Grand Egyptian Tour April
twenty eighth through May night. Alexshkovich is

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a name that you need to remember, and I'll tell you why. He

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has produced a book in twenty twenty
one called Deja Vu? Has Everything Already

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Been? In search of previous loss
civilizations? And I have literally hundreds of

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books that cross my desk each year, and a lot of them are rehashed

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data information on material we already know, but with a new spin. But

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what makes Alex's book fascinating is that
he is actually taking the data and sending

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it back out with new hypothesis,
new theories, new information. This book,

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Deja Vu, I found randomly on
Amazon and I had to learn about

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it, and I started reading it
and I was just dumbfounded. So I

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want to talk about this book today, and there's no way we can get

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all of it in. It's over
three hundred pages, so we're gonna have

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to have Alex back. So Alex, Welcome to Earth. It's great to

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see you. Hello everyone, and
thank you for having me on your show.

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Talk to about what you do,
what's your work other than writing,

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because I mean, obviously writing is
great to do, but it's not full

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time for most of us. Yes, I actually started writing at a very

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early age, during my middle high
school. And actually the book you mentioned,

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which I don't know if anyone will
see here it is, this is

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about four hundred and fifty pages long. This book was actually written in about

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eighty five percent at the age of
seventeen. I started writing very early.

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I then, because of some legal
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the eighteenth birthday to publish it.
So it was originally published as I was

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eighteen years old, and then a
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it in English on Amazon and I
self translated it. So it was a

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long, long journey and a lot
of work. But as I mentioned,

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and I started early, so I
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a little bit proficient. So right
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write and add it and you know, put everything together, because book is

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not only the manuscript, but plenty
of more things. And I was,

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you know, I was very interested
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My mother was actually or used to
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So from but no it wasn't that
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I had plenty you know, of
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books and stuff like that in my
house. And I learned reading and writing

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at a also very young age,
so you know, I was skimming through

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what was interesting to me. And
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also became more passionate about you know, history, especially ancient history. And

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then it is interesting because I mentioned
the middle high school and I was the

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last year of middle high school because
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of that, I needed to be
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go to any high school, there
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previous year and my year which was
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it was very hard to get into
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student, but in order to be
more confident, I attempted a historic competition

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of a very high level. I
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it was from a level of above
high school event. And in order to

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you know, get a high level
in this competition and achieve something, I

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needed to read a lot about our
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the Nuolithic Revolution, up until nowadays. And it is because of the academic

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and you know, mainstream studying that
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books. In my book there is
a hundred plus bugs and bibliography. Because

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of that, I started questioning things
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know, academic articles, books and
stuff like that, everything was, you

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know, shown so smoothly. It
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in a big picture, from those
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times, from Middle Ages up until
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maybe we don't know about a particular
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when it comes to the like frames, to the foundations, it was like

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we know everything about it. And
I started questioning its tually, everything about

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our history. Could it be that
our history is much more mysterious? And

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could it be that something different happened
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in the times of antiquity and then
pre history, and I started digging deeper.

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I was also interested in other,
of course subjects. I loved the

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biology genetics, and I found out, you know, within the time frames

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of the human evolution that we as
anatomically modern humans existed for about two hundred

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thousand years. You know, two
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Nulostic Revolution during which we started a
sedentary lifestyle from simple nomad hunter gatherers was

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only ten thousand BC, which is
like ninety five percent of the time after

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we appeared. So it was very
suspicious to me. And again after the

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Nulostic Revolution, it appeared that there
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one hundred years BC, when the
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ancient Egypt, ancient India, and
you know, it was the Unification of

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Egypt, it was, you now, the Golden era of the Summer.

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It was, you know, the
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years the same time. And I
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know, that something happened before that, and why all of those first civilizations

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started so rapidly at the same time, roughly the same time, of course.

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And I started digging into those civilizations. What are ancient ancestors from Summer

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India and Egypt were telling us about
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were telling us a completely different history. And that's how it all started.

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I started questioning things and going into
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of the stuff that you often talk
about in this podcast. So you bring

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up an area that's very interesting to
me and controversial, which is are we

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being told the whole story or are
we being told a lie about our ancient

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past. You actually have a quote
from the Nazi propagandist minister Joseph Goebel who

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says, if you tell a big
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eventually come to believe it. And
that is something that I have a huge

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problem with because it seems like they
will use a hypothesis and make it a

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truth. So talk a little bit
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your Your narrative of the book is
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if we look at the actual people
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down, it's very different. Yes, it is a good question, but

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first when it comes to this quote, I think that you know, our

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history isn't a lie. A big
client in mainstream is lying all over.

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But I think that it is again
repetition, but maybe of some mistakes,

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but maybe of some biased opinions of
some experts, Egyptologists archaeologists. And when

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we're repeated all over again and we
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same you know, mainstream academic knowledge, then it is you know, believed

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to be the true one. But
when it comes to you know, what

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the history is, what our history
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it appeared. I will continue with
those first civilizations, because those free civilizations

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that we considered them, that we
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themselves actually not to be the first. They consider it either to be much

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older or they consider themselves to be
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Like in Egypt. We've got plenty
of different lists of kings, and actually

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academic knowledge is within about seventy to
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list of kings showing us the rulers
after the first Pherioh, considered by them

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men as narmer who united the lower
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we've got plenty of different lists of
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We've got the poleermostone, manetoskings list, and several others, and interestingly,

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for instance mentioned by me three different
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completely different periods of the Egyptian history. So it may seem that if all

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of those texts from different eras of
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extent the truth, maybe with some
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things could be confused during all of
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maybe if they are telling us that
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maybe it was like that because all
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in about seventy to eighty percent great
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Egyptians, dynastic Pharrios, they mentioned
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about thirty six thousand years old before
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Egypt. But the same is with
the Summer the Sumerian skings list, which

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are which are telling us or even
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India, here we've get so many
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myths and legends that are telling us
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distant past or even pre history,
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some even you know on even very
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is I think it's strange to me
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when it comes to mention, of
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of those myths and legends are you
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a story. So why we shouldn't
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know, primitive beings. And it's
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to modern times. I found I
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but it is. It was said
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knowledge from people who build the civilizations
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I think that we shouldn't, you
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ancestors, and we should, you
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I started being very interested in the
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the history of science, especially how
how it came to be that we

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have such a historical narrative that we
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that it wasn't very long ago that
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we think that, oh, it
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civilizations, but Sumer was only discovered
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started were discovering cities and civilizations from
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one hundred eight years ago. And
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other civilizations of Mesopotamia like Acad,
Babylon, Assyria were mostly ignored as some

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fairy tales, despite being mentioned in
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ancient historical chroniclers, and even in
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came from the Sumerian city of Ur. But because we hadn't found them yet,

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we treated them for hundreds of years
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then we discovered them. So I'm
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was writing my book, what if
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what if stories of Atlantis, Moo
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treated the same that mainstream is treating
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and imagination of our ancestores. But
what if we just haven't discovered the proper

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final Atlantis or some other Los civilization
yet? Why are we so arrogant to

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believe that we know almost everything about
our history? And why are we so

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arrogant, you know, to say
that, oh Plato's Atlantis is fiction,

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Oh this story's fiction, and stuff
like that. I think that it is

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just our rogance. Yeah. Why
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problem with the kings list, either
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tens of thousands of years. They
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can identify in writing, but when
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like anything after a d it's like, well they were making all those things

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up. Mm hm. Yes.
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with Troy found by Hiro Schlimann.
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Troy was in an epic story.
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epic narrative, which in my opinion, is even less credible than the list

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of kings which are telling us of
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but the history of ancient Egypt,
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when it comes to the Sumerians,
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Sumerians. And I think it is
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history, because everyone thinks that before
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years BC plus minus, of course, people were just simple people. Some

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like there were just first settlements.
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thousand YEARSBC, were simply hunter gatherers. And you know, we've got plenty

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of evidence that people in thirty thousand
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gatherers and nomads. But still until
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we also have advanced societies and we
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people, like in the Kalahari Desert, like in some tribes all over the

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world. Actually, so of course
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I think that there may be something
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even Zaki Hawas, who is let's
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the least mentions, but he mentions
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his understanding, the let's say dynastic
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imagine, if our entire history is
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Homo sapiens sapiens, we I think
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that. And you know, ore, when it comes to history, it

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is evidence based. When we have
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is pseudoscience. And that's why we
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let's say, we do not have
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let's say, very early prehistoric times, we have some anomalists, we have

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some theories that maybe some let's say
buildings like the pyramids or some temples are

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much older. But when it comes
to like strong smoking evidence, we do

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not have much of it, and
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you know, science is very lazy when

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it comes to updating. If it
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actually change the narrative. But still
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everyone was saying during the last let's
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that you know, theories of let's
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like that are just fairy tales because
we do not have any evidence that humanity

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actually could manage to produce such huge
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we discovered goblically tape, which in
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a similar level to let's say,
the Pyramids are to the great Sphings of

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Giza. So I think that if
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may accept that the history is much
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you know, it's funny. We
have a wide variety of authors, people

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like Graham Hancock, who you mentioned
in your book, and I think pretty

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much everybody who you have in your
book, we've had on the show,

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Robert Shock, John Anthony West.
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to know your perspective is who were
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them in the Bible, like Noah
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I mean, they're almost written and
described as superhuman in many ways.

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But what do you believe the earliest
Homo sapien sapiens were like? Were they

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brighter than us? We know they
used earth based energies. And you talk

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about this in your book, and
we'll get this into it a little bit

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later. But if you were to
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you describe them the earliest Homo sapien
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or before last chapter of my book, like the nine or ten for something,

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I described the concept of cyclical time. And I believe that there are

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some cycles of time, and I
think that the Prediluvians those maybe people from

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Atlantis or from others, let's say, lots of civilizations before the end of

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the alast ace. H we're in
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when it comes to those cycles of
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you know, we do not have
much even mentions in ancient texts of some

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advanced weaponry or some advance maybe except
for some Hindu you know texts, but

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you know, in Plato's story of
Atlantis, you know, and in some

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other sources, it seems that it
was just a casualization like ancient idiot may

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be a little bit more advanced.
But what we found in almost every of

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those ancient mentions of previous civilizations is
their spirituality, that they were much more

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advanced as human beings spiritually. So
it may be you mentioned earth energies.

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It may be that people from before
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know state, and maybe that's how
they had all of those you know technologies

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that are for instance, mentions mentioned
by Clairvoyant. Maybe you know, it

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was some sort of psychic you know
technology, let's say, psychic you know

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abilities. And I think that it
is very in accordance with Plato and with

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ancient texts because in Plato, and
it is a thing that is very often

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omitted by plenty of researchers, Plato
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and more animal like, and that's
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the destruction of Atlantis. So it
may be that it was their spiritual downfall,

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just like in the story of Garden
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fallen spiritually maybe into materialism because we
started being ashamed of each other,

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like you know, it was a
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connects with for instance, you guess
of the Hindu tradition. We've got for

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you guess, we've got you know, Golden Age and you know, those

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descriptions tell us not of some age
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like that, but mostly an age
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psychic abilities, you know, you
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mostly found when it comes to ancient
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of the oldest and longest epics of
all time. And in Maha Barata there

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is a mention of those yugas and
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are in other parts not mentioning,
you gas, there are mentions that you

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know, during those battles of Kurukshetra
and stuff like that, people used psychic

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abilities. We have for instance,
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something like that, messages to a
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know, he was like showing him
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maybe telepathically to his mind. So
in Mahabarata we have a lot of information

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about psychic abilities, you know,
and spiritual phenomena, and exactly in you

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gas, in the Great Krita or
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got mentioned that you know, the
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is heightened full, everyone is spiritual, there is no there is no harm

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being made, and stuff like that. So it may be that it is

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a discret when it comes to all
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it is all about you know,
their personal their spiritual level of advancement,

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not you know, materialistic technology and
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civilizations incorporated both spiritual and material.
And actually I'm in my future books and

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of course in future you know videos, interviews and stuff like that, you

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know, talking a lot about the
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description of the Caliuga, the worst
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the Fall of Atlanta, is because
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animal like, and Caloryuga is all
about, you know, being cut

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off from spirituality, which is mentioned
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one fourth, so a quarter of
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are you know, cap off of
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good parallel between Maha Baratta and Plato's
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the full of Atlantis. And we
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we are in the Calijuga or something
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It may be that it was a
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you think there's going to be a
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tools and other devices that detect the
earlier epics technology? In other words,

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you bring up ball back the gigantic
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Great Pyramid and other monolithic stone works
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for our scientists to validate it using
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have to develop some science to detect
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it is hard, but you know, we may come full to some science

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fiction and imaginary ideas of those technology. Like when it comes to cutting the

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stone, we may, you know, we cannot date the stones themselves,

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but maybe we will be able,
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it was cut, you know,
because some stones are polish, some stones

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are cut off. But I think
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maybe even impossible, because when it
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stones are millions or even tens of
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these are just natural rocks, natural
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date them by some other methods.
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cut, which is hard to tell
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to the sides, for instance,
dating of gobekly tape and sites like

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that. We only know the dates
of birds because the rather carbon dating was

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found when it was buried, when
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it was covered with organic materials.
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it would be almost impossible. There
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time travel or by some I don't
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realistic for the future fifty years,
so it would be hard. What do

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you think are some really good examples
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I've been to Egypt, I've seen
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a anomaly that cannot be explained through
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give some examples of previous epoch buildings, structures, artifacts, what would you

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say, are like your top five
mm hmm, is I think that the

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best things will are still waiting to
be uncovered for sure. Maybe you know

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on the depths of the Atlantic Ocean
where maybe Atlantis was found and stuff like

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that. But I'm thinking like that
the premit is a huge anomaly, but

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it is more of an anomaly when
it the most of an anomaly when it

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comes to the knowledge that is hidden
within it. You know, the number

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Pi, the Golden ration, number
five. You know. I think that

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there aren't coded even the measures of
the earth. And I actually because I

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was in my high school just after
publishing my book, I was finishing my

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high school, so I had an
essay for a history class about two two

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hundred words, and I investigated the
prehistoric measures of the earth before let's say,

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the Erato Stenus of Syreen. And
it may be that we have an

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even ancients so or ses that are
telling us that measures of the earth were

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encoded in the Great Perramit of Giza. There is a lot of things and

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mysteries. And you know, because
when it comes to those measures of the

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Earth in the Great Pyramid, plenty
of skeptics are telling us that we find

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it because we think that it is
like that that you know, it is

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a wishful thinking that it is just
a number. You know, there are

425
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telling us stories like that. But
the investigations into the measures of the Earth

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encoded in the Great Parent goes much
further because there are a few Greek sources

427
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that are telling us that ancient Egyptians
encoded the measures of the Earth. And

428
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what is more interesting is that in
one case I found that there was like

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a puzzle converting the you know,
the side length of the Great pyramed to

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the earth measures. And when we
calculate this mystery using nowadays all of the

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data that we have no nowadays,
it clearly says within I think ninety seven

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percent that there are encoded according to
this ancient story, I think it was

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from one hundred or something BC.
It is a more accurate representation of the

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measures of the Earth than you know, the first Eratostenus of Syrene, who

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was to be first to measure the
earth between you know, Alexandra and sin

436
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and actually plenty of people believe that
he wasn't the first even do you know

437
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first atheist of our current eural let's
say it was a famous mathematician from the

438
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Napoleonic times pires in Montola place he
mentioned I have a quote even I think

439
00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:43.880
in my book, I have this
quote that he mentions that Eratostenus of Syrene

440
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re examined all the measures of the
earth. He just you know, he

441
00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:52.679
just made an experiment proving that these
are the measures of the earth. And

442
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:54.960
there were plenty of other people like
Isaac Newton who believed the same. So

443
00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:59.519
it is a hole long investigation.
And I think that you know, in

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the age of in Cubit and in
the Great Primit itself, there isn't called

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that the measure of the measure of
the earth. And even you know,

446
00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:10.239
when it comes to those maybe some
more esoteric sources like you know Edgar Casey

447
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:14.119
or other that you know, great
Print of Giza was built by Toath.

448
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:19.440
One of the one of the nicknames
of Toath was actually the measure of the

449
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Earth. So is it a marco
incidence that he had a nickname measure of

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the Earth and for instance, according
to Arab chroniclers from the medieval times,

451
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they found a local law that it
was Sourid, who they identified with Toath,

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that built the Pyramit of Giza,
the Great print of Giza, because

453
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he wanted to hide knowledge and artifacts, because he had a dream that there

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will be a great deluge that will
destroy all the earth. So right there

455
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:51.880
are you saying, thought was the
one who who designed and built the great

456
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:57.400
pyramid. It may be, and
as I mentioned, it connects the medieval

457
00:39:57.719 --> 00:40:01.239
lore, these legends of Saurid,
who even Arabs were telling was most probably

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the god of wisdom Tooth. Also
it is connected to the hermetic law,

459
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:08.639
maybe not the text themselves, but
there is, you know, there are

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00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:13.679
some hermetic legends that it was Tooth
who build the pyramds of Giza. And

461
00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:16.599
also it connects with the measures of
the earth that can be found within the

462
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Great Pyramit and also all other knowledge, because for instance, Arab chronicler is

463
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:27.559
mentioned that Tooth encoded knowledge. There
was a mention of some artifacts that were,

464
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you know, some weapons that cannot
rust or you know, some vendable

465
00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:36.440
glass stuff like that. But it
may be also true because you know,

466
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we found permit empty. We didn't
find any anyone in the pyramid. When

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it comes to the South caphagus,
of course, and also when it comes

468
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:52.719
to some research on the pyramit energy
energy of the pyramids, like of course

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00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:58.840
called the ball experiments with razor sharping
and other they may corroborate to those Arab

470
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:02.719
legends for instance, of metals that
were not trusting at all for thousands of

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00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:07.400
years. And you know, Carl
Derval, for instance, was of an

472
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:10.880
opinion that, you know, the
Great Point of Giza enables a long lasting

473
00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:17.800
razor blades. So these are some
maybe not direct evidence, but these are

474
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:22.679
some correlations that I think there is
too many of them to think that these

475
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:29.800
are just you know, mer correlations
and meherts and chronicities of coincidences. Well

476
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:34.000
that's I mean, the Great Pyramid
is real nomally, I mean, it's

477
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:42.400
just phenomenon. But if you were
to choose another known either facility or artifact

478
00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:50.320
that you believe crosses the boundaries from
current history into prediluvian or pre flood history,

479
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:53.119
what would you say is a great
example. I would say it is

480
00:41:53.559 --> 00:42:00.559
I would say, collectively the prehistoric
megaloetic architecture that we find in Cusco.

481
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:05.880
In Peru, the Holy you know
Peru and Ants are full of those no

482
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:12.079
polygonal walls, but we find I
think, almost the same ones in Egypt,

483
00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:15.119
even I think in the Mankara Pyramid, at the bottom of the Mancara

484
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:20.679
Pyramid. If I was to take
a picture from there and from Cusco and

485
00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:24.840
maybe give you no color because of
course the pyramed blocks are no brighter than

486
00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:29.440
those from Cusco, and I will
give you two photos. I think that

487
00:42:29.480 --> 00:42:32.079
you wouldn't be. It wouldn't be
that is to distinguish it. Yeah,

488
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:37.320
you're right, there are the same
blocks and also similar or maybe not exactly

489
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:39.599
the same, for instance, in
Osiraean in Egypt. You know, in

490
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this you are you know a lot
about Egypt, so of course you know,

491
00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:47.360
and Azureana is of course a little
bit lower than you know, the

492
00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:52.440
main ground when it comes to Egyptian
facilities. And also you know, I

493
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:58.119
think there's a similarity between between the
Oserine which is underground, and all of

494
00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:04.320
the underground tunnels in Cusco with all
those megalithic walls inside of them too.

495
00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:08.599
And you know, similar blocks with
I found a specific knobs in them can

496
00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:13.960
be found of course in the Far
East, you know some China yang Shan

497
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:17.360
something like that, and also in
Japan. But similar blocks can be also

498
00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:22.719
found in Greece, and I found
out in a textbook about the Greek architecture

499
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:29.119
that even in the Greek archaeology,
these are considered to be the oldest,

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00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:32.360
just as in the case in Peru. In ants, when we have this

501
00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:37.280
foundation from those huge megalithic blocks,
then we have like some middlestone, and

502
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:42.760
then we have some kritztone above it. So this is another I think,

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00:43:43.239 --> 00:43:47.519
and as I mentioned to say,
global thing that may point to maybe pre

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00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:52.440
di elevant roots or maybe some you
know, maybe after the flat civilization that

505
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:57.199
you know was rebuilding, we did
not know much about them. But I

506
00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:01.079
think you know all of those for
instance in Cusco polygonal walls with all of

507
00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:07.880
those unnecessary angles, because sometimes there's
I think twelve forty for twenty something angles

508
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:15.000
within those blocks. It's all unnecessary
and maybe to us you know something about

509
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:19.920
the architecture and looks, but I
think that it is something more than that.

510
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:28.760
Fascinating. Every generation has their seers
and their unique psychics. When you

511
00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:34.440
start bringing forth the data from Eggar
Casey a lot of people discount his work

512
00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:40.360
because he is leaving his body and
doing something that we don't understand, which

513
00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:47.159
is tapping into what I can only
consider a cloud database, right, and

514
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:52.840
we now know this cloud is as
the Akashik records, right, which is

515
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:57.000
a library of everything that's happened in
the past, present, in the future.

516
00:44:58.559 --> 00:45:02.559
How do we just to find the
data from an aggre Casey about the

517
00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:07.519
ancient past? I mentioned Edgar Casey
in my book only a few times.

518
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:13.239
I'm not focusing in my book as
I think you read. I'm mostly mentioning

519
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:17.760
about you know, the historic card, hard based materialistic evidence. But you

520
00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:23.280
know, the main thing why science
is ignoring such accounts like Edgar Casey or

521
00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:29.960
some metaphysical channeling stuff is because,
and I disagree with this, within this

522
00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:36.079
scientific method is one core assumption.
You know, there are some assumptions in

523
00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:38.320
every kind of thinking. This is
philosophical. You know, in order to

524
00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:43.920
think, you have first to accept
that thinking even exists, or in order

525
00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:47.119
to find something you know outside,
you have to admit that you know everything

526
00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:52.000
of this exists, you know,
this specie, this camera, this desk,

527
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:54.480
because you know, how can you
think and find evidence if you do

528
00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:58.920
not assume that things exist. So
these are you know, basic assumptions that

529
00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:01.239
things exist that you know of thinking
that also is and stuff like that.

530
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:07.400
But science has a one core assumption
that I do not agree with, and

531
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:13.039
I think that is completely making us
in a bubble or even in a prison

532
00:46:13.079 --> 00:46:17.199
when it comes to gaining knowledge.
Which is that? And it is about

533
00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:22.159
like this, everything is only matter
and its interactions. This is one of

534
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:28.159
core assumptions. And I ask myself, if I was trying to find the

535
00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:32.000
true of reality of how the universe
works, should I only be telling,

536
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:37.840
for instance, I was going to
divorce only dark trees exist and white or

537
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:42.440
you know, light trees did not
exist? Of course not I would you

538
00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:45.599
know, as made some even more
basic assumption for instance, things exist,

539
00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:50.800
And this is one of the core
assumptions of science, which you know,

540
00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:54.880
is against any psychic channeling, reincarnation
and stuff like that. And I disagree

541
00:46:54.920 --> 00:46:59.280
with it, and I think that
it is limiting and it is making the

542
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:04.280
material ballistic science and all of the
materialists that believe that only matter exists.

543
00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:08.960
It makes them actually having a monopoly
over all the knowledge and everyone who is

544
00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:15.559
seeking knowledge in other places like non
physical non material are you know Soudo science

545
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:21.199
sciences or our hoaxes, you know, or some gurus charlatans. And I

546
00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:25.280
think that it that this thing should
be changed, that we should assume that

547
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:30.440
you know, everything just is,
and I don't know if it's only black

548
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:32.960
or white. You know, it's
like, as I mentioned, using the

549
00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:39.360
data to correlate other data. It's
another way to anchor data. And then

550
00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:45.159
you could use cases material and say, okay, he's talking about Atlantis,

551
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:50.559
this other research is saying something similar. So it all kind of correlates,

552
00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:54.440
is that what you're referencing right,
Yeah, to some extent, But I'm

553
00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:59.480
refersing to this problem, you know, to the bigger problem of all of

554
00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:05.039
not on concerning Atlantis, but concerning
all of the metaphysical stuff, that even

555
00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:07.519
if we have everything, when it
comes to science, it will always be

556
00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:13.800
only about matter and everything beyond that
will be non existent to it. Actually,

557
00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:16.320
So it's like you know, being
in a bubble and you know,

558
00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:22.199
making ourselves smaller and not going outside
of it. And it is the same.

559
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:25.280
I think that it is, you
know, like some mental not issue,

560
00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:30.920
but you know mental thing, because
skeptics have the same. Let's say,

561
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:36.559
type of the problem because they are
saying that they only accept things that

562
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:39.960
are provided with the hard evidence,
and they do not accept speculation. But

563
00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:45.679
it is like being always within the
comfort zone with comfortable what we know and

564
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:50.840
not going exploring into the unknown,
which is actually also portrayed by I think

565
00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:54.480
almost any myth of our ancient ancestors
of the hero journey that you know,

566
00:48:54.599 --> 00:49:00.480
hero is within some some known word, within some like asshole or some city

567
00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:06.039
or some kingdom, and he goes
into a journey into unknown, even epic

568
00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:10.639
of Gilgamagh. He goes into the
unknown and faces like Humbaba and some other

569
00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:15.440
monsters. You know, he faces
the unknown to come back with more knowledge.

570
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:20.159
And this is how the conscious exploration
and gaining of knowledge is all about.

571
00:49:20.679 --> 00:49:23.400
But when we think of the materialistic
assumption, it is like I won't

572
00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:27.840
go into the unknown, No,
I have everything. Yeah, it is

573
00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:31.719
a bigger issue than the issue of
Atlantis itself, but it connects with Atlantis

574
00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:37.280
because you know, then Edgar case
is Charlotte and nothing more. Because we

575
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:40.280
do not accept anything that is non
material, and we cannot, in the

576
00:49:40.360 --> 00:49:46.880
material sense explain how Casey has his
information. Yeah, we can't look at

577
00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:52.000
the spiritual side of things, even
though the previous epoch was very spiritual,

578
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:59.119
very highly spiritual. Who can to
take a short commercial break to allow our

579
00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:05.000
spat is to identify themselves, and
we will return shortly with my guest today,

580
00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:12.239
Alexshkovic, talking to us about his
latest book, Deja Vu, Has

581
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:17.000
Everything Already Been? And he's coming
to us today from Poland. We'll be

582
00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:55.920
right back. My guest today is
Alexshkevich, who has written a new book

583
00:50:55.960 --> 00:51:02.639
called Deja Vu, Has Every Already
Been? And he's looking at a number

584
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:12.119
of curiosities evidence of an earlier civilization
that left their mark in temples, pyramids,

585
00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:20.239
buildings and strange artifacts around the world. I want to talk about a

586
00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:24.239
theory that you came up with that
was fascinating to me, in your belief

587
00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:37.719
that possibly Atlantis was in Central America. And you describe Mexico City, which

588
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:45.840
is the ancient Tinoi Nichian, the
Aztec city, and there is evidence for

589
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:54.199
this because there's canals and other waterways
that Plato describes that may fit perfectly with

590
00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:58.559
that. So talk a little bit
about that. I thought that was a

591
00:51:58.599 --> 00:52:05.119
real fascinating theory. Yes, I
did not say that the Atlantis is Tenochtitlan,

592
00:52:05.320 --> 00:52:07.440
and I do not say that it
was in the Central America, but

593
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:13.000
I say that the Aztecs had a
myth of as Land, which is of

594
00:52:13.039 --> 00:52:17.480
course similar asland Atlantis. You know, Atla in their language means water,

595
00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:22.159
so Alan Atlantis I think may be
the same civilization. And they mentioned that

596
00:52:22.679 --> 00:52:27.639
it was a white land, so
I don't know, maybe like some theories

597
00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:31.360
of Antarctica being the Atlantis Adsland,
but you know, it doesn't matter.

598
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:37.599
But they have a memory of Adsland, lost land that was sunken, and

599
00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:40.639
you know, they came from this
land, and they say that they created

600
00:52:40.679 --> 00:52:45.599
their Tenaitland, their capital, as
you mentioned, it is almost the same

601
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:50.360
like the city of Atlantis. And
they say they that they built the Tenatatland

602
00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:53.920
to look like their previous as Land. So it is like, you know,

603
00:52:54.079 --> 00:53:00.679
the people from Atlantis rebuilt their Atlantis
again. And as as you mentioned,

604
00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:04.800
there are plenty of similarities because Atlantis
was of course an island. It

605
00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:07.360
was of water, there were those
canals, there was you know, the

606
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:13.079
major temple of Poseidon, there were
different dykes and stuff like that, and

607
00:53:13.199 --> 00:53:19.000
Tenochtitland when Aztecs found it was almost
the same, but it wasn't maybe you

608
00:53:19.079 --> 00:53:22.119
know, exactly circular, but it
had those canals. It was a complex

609
00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:27.960
of artificial islands of a huge lake
tex Coco. And in the middle it

610
00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:34.039
had Temple mayor So, a great
big temple, major temple. So there

611
00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:38.360
are those things. Are things are
too much in order to dismiss them.

612
00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:45.400
And I don't think thatland was exactly
Atlantis, but that aspects were telling us

613
00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:52.800
the truth that they created tenattland that
looked like they previous civilizations, civilization of

614
00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:59.760
Atlanta, Atlantis. And if we
have like a historical data that Tenochtitlan really

615
00:53:59.760 --> 00:54:04.119
looked like this and it is similar
to Atlantis, we may assume that their

616
00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:12.079
Acelan was actually Atlantis. Yeah,
I couldn't believe that comparison, because there

617
00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:17.719
are a lot of great similarities there. The other thing that you bring up

618
00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:23.199
that I see a lot in my
travels is these what are considered the handbags,

619
00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:28.920
and we call them the pre Deluvian
handbags. Nobody knows what they are.

620
00:54:29.079 --> 00:54:35.800
I have seen them in Egyptian museums, I've seen them in Mexican museums.

621
00:54:36.199 --> 00:54:43.679
They're found in Mexico, Mesopotamia,
different parts of Turkey. You suggest

622
00:54:43.840 --> 00:54:49.480
that they could have been post flood
data banks that these guys were carrying.

623
00:54:49.519 --> 00:54:54.000
Give us some more information about that. Yes. I recently, when I

624
00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:59.639
gave the first screenshots of my book
of the new edition, because I was

625
00:54:59.679 --> 00:55:02.679
making new addition in Polish, I
had, you know, like some skeptical

626
00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:08.239
comments that while these are you know, people discovered that, you know,

627
00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:13.880
those bags, they said that they
were water buckets. You know, of

628
00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:17.880
course water buckets were everywhere and most
proudly the same look. But I think

629
00:55:17.920 --> 00:55:22.119
that it is more than that,
because you know, if it were just

630
00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:25.280
as they mentioned, you know,
water buckets that everyone used all over the

631
00:55:25.320 --> 00:55:29.840
world, and it is just a
water bucket. First, they wouldn't be

632
00:55:29.880 --> 00:55:37.199
connected with some like very important people
or very important like frescoes and stuff like

633
00:55:37.280 --> 00:55:42.840
that, because often they are not
with ordinary people. It isn't that ordinary

634
00:55:42.920 --> 00:55:45.360
men is you know, having this
handbag, but it is you know,

635
00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:52.280
either the Anunaky, those genies of
Mesopotamia or some other beings are held in

636
00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:58.360
them. Or when it comes to
the Mexico, we've got those huge Atlantas

637
00:55:58.360 --> 00:56:04.280
at Tula. They are also not
casual people like casual farmers and stuff like

638
00:56:04.360 --> 00:56:08.159
that. And also I think that
these inscriptions from all over the world are

639
00:56:08.199 --> 00:56:13.519
too similar. You know, in
one, let's say, in Mesopotama,

640
00:56:13.519 --> 00:56:15.719
if it was just a water bucket, like skeptics are telling, if it

641
00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:21.760
was just a water bucket, those
water buckets will be different. And you

642
00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:25.079
know their properties, you know,
their proportions are almost the same. They're

643
00:56:25.119 --> 00:56:30.119
looking the same. And even for
instance, in one on one of the

644
00:56:30.119 --> 00:56:34.159
pillars of Gobecle tape, no one
is holding this bag, but the motive

645
00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:37.519
of the bag is present there.
So you know why you should put water

646
00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:43.320
buckets just you know, as a
fresco or as some ornament. You know,

647
00:56:43.400 --> 00:56:46.519
it's saving a stupid idea. You
know, there are two similar to

648
00:56:46.639 --> 00:56:51.119
each other. As I mentioned,
they are similar even in shape. You

649
00:56:51.159 --> 00:56:53.800
know, one would be like oval, one would be like that. And

650
00:56:53.920 --> 00:56:59.719
there are almost the same wherever we
happen to see them. So I think

651
00:56:59.719 --> 00:57:01.880
it is more than that. Of
course, we did not know what they

652
00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:07.519
were exactly, but maybe there are
you know, there are mentions all over

653
00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:10.599
the word of some teachers of mankind. I also mention a lot of them

654
00:57:10.639 --> 00:57:15.760
in my book, and I think
that these are you know, if we

655
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:20.039
are talking about the teachers of mankind
who are bringing civilization. This may be

656
00:57:20.159 --> 00:57:23.840
a symbol maybe of knowledge, maybe
of some gifts or anything that they were

657
00:57:23.880 --> 00:57:29.840
bringing with themselves. Maybe this is
this predaiving knowledge that they were to preserve.

658
00:57:29.960 --> 00:57:35.760
So they taken those bags or anything
with them, you know, because

659
00:57:35.800 --> 00:57:42.079
they were preserving knowledge. And for
instance, one of those handbags is in

660
00:57:42.119 --> 00:57:46.039
the hand of Oannes, who was
one of the seven Abcalus seven stages of

661
00:57:46.119 --> 00:57:51.639
ancient Mesopotamia, who was to be
taken onto the arc with the main hero,

662
00:57:51.880 --> 00:57:55.599
whether it was Zusudra or Atrajazis,
and he was taken onto the ark

663
00:57:55.679 --> 00:58:00.800
in order to preserve knowledge. Yes, so I think that it is not

664
00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:04.440
coincidential that, you know, we
find them all over the world. Maybe

665
00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:08.239
those people were carrying those bags and
teaching mankind all over the world how to

666
00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:14.760
create civilization. So I think it
is connected with the teachers of mankind specifically.

667
00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:19.400
I think that's very cool explanation.
The other thing that I would love,

668
00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:24.199
I just don't think we're have evolved
far enough in our sciences if we

669
00:58:24.280 --> 00:58:30.719
could scan these bags. I've seen
a couple in the National Museum in Mexico

670
00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:36.840
City. They're intricately carved, beautifully
carved their stone though they're granite or stone

671
00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:42.000
carvings, and I think they've been
embedded with some kind of an energy.

672
00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:45.119
And i'd like you to talk a
little bit about and you write about this

673
00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:52.679
geomagnetic energies, tolluric fields that run
through a lot of these ancient sites and

674
00:58:53.519 --> 00:59:01.400
the previous epochs use of these sciences. But I think that these energies are

675
00:59:01.440 --> 00:59:06.800
to a large extent nonphysical. That's
why it would be hard for science to

676
00:59:06.920 --> 00:59:09.880
actually measure it. There are some
indications that it may be but to a

677
00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:15.159
little extent electromagnetic in origin, but
we do not know much about it.

678
00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:21.320
It is hard to measure them correctly
with you know, scientific apparatus. And

679
00:59:21.679 --> 00:59:24.960
I think that there are more of
non physical energies. And on a side

680
00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:31.079
note, I am to some extent
psychic. I sometimes see some energies and

681
00:59:31.159 --> 00:59:37.199
I think that you know, these
energies are connected to spirituality, to non

682
00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:43.039
physicality, and that's why they were
concerned with those previous ages. Maybe those

683
00:59:43.079 --> 00:59:49.039
people from Atlantis, from most civilizations, from those spiritual golden ages of critics

684
00:59:49.079 --> 00:59:52.840
at ye Yoga, maybe they were
so psychic that you know, they saw

685
00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:57.559
those energies in their everyday lives,
and that's why they, you know,

686
00:59:57.880 --> 01:00:04.000
set some temples or megalais in specific
places all over the world according to what

687
01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:07.920
we call the lay lines right now. But this knowledge was much older.

688
01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:12.719
In China, they are called lung
Mai, the dragon paths. So there

689
01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:15.800
was this knowledge and it was connected
actually with those non physical energies, because

690
01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:20.840
it was connected to feng shui,
and feng shui is all about no placing

691
01:00:20.920 --> 01:00:23.400
as stone here as stone there,
in order to have a balanced garden.

692
01:00:23.800 --> 01:00:29.440
But our ancient ancestors knew something more
than we do. They knew about balance,

693
01:00:29.519 --> 01:00:32.400
and maybe they knew about those psychic
energies because they mentioned that you cannot

694
01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:37.000
place a building here because it may
collapse in the future. Because there were

695
01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:42.920
some energies there. Maybe it was
you know, not harmonious to put something

696
01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:45.760
there. That's why you know,
I mentioned feng shua and all of those

697
01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:49.800
lay lines, and that's why,
for instance, plenty of Catholic charges in

698
01:00:49.840 --> 01:00:55.679
the medieval times were set on the
previous pagan foundations, on previous pagan stones,

699
01:00:55.760 --> 01:01:00.280
even in Cusco, one of the
main chapel. I think it's chapel

700
01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:07.239
or charge is put on those megalithic
great walls, and within it there are

701
01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:13.159
even more of those megalithic polygonal walls. So I think that it is about

702
01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:15.360
you know, some maybe spiritual kind
of energies. And that's why I think

703
01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:20.920
it connects with the pre dialogant times
during which people were much more intuitive,

704
01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:24.920
much more psychic. And I think
that it connects also to the lay lines.

705
01:01:25.159 --> 01:01:30.199
Another possibility that I explain my book
is the theory, but it is

706
01:01:30.280 --> 01:01:34.360
only a theory. We do not
have much evidence for it. We do

707
01:01:34.440 --> 01:01:37.639
have, but you know, it
isn't like legitimately one hundred percent. You

708
01:01:37.679 --> 01:01:44.760
know, credible idea is from Russian
scientists that the interior of our planet is

709
01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:47.920
a giant crystal. And if it
was a crystal, there are several indications

710
01:01:47.960 --> 01:01:52.440
like delay lines and the position of
those megalis that can be you know,

711
01:01:52.519 --> 01:02:00.440
within the platonic solids, which are
those polyhedra like tetrahedron like cube and also

712
01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:07.880
icosahedron and thodecahedron. And it's interesting
because Russian scientists proposed adecahedron, so it

713
01:02:08.039 --> 01:02:15.119
would have twelve sides and twelve points
apexes and when it comes I found and

714
01:02:15.239 --> 01:02:21.199
it's very interesting. In Plato's dialogue, I think it was Fato, but

715
01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:23.400
I have a quote in my book, so don't worry. In Fato,

716
01:02:23.519 --> 01:02:29.639
Plato is telling us because there is
Fato, there is Phydros. So these

717
01:02:29.719 --> 01:02:34.760
are similar. So I mess with
them sometimes. But when it comes to

718
01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:38.960
this one dialogue, there is a
mention in Plato that Earth, if seen

719
01:02:39.079 --> 01:02:45.039
from above, is like a giant
twelve sided ball, like you know,

720
01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:50.400
ball, like football ball, you
know what I mean. So it is

721
01:02:50.599 --> 01:02:54.159
like a this crystal that Russians we're
talking about, which has twelve sides,

722
01:02:54.199 --> 01:02:59.559
you know, twelve sides on a
ball. Assume that it is a polyhedron,

723
01:02:59.639 --> 01:03:02.719
so it has equal sites, equal
angles, so it is one of

724
01:03:02.760 --> 01:03:06.679
the platonic solids. So it may
be that our plant is a huge do

725
01:03:06.800 --> 01:03:12.800
dicahedron that has accumulated tons of soil
and looks, you know, like a

726
01:03:12.960 --> 01:03:16.000
spherical It has a spherical, let's
say shape. But we have some evidence

727
01:03:16.079 --> 01:03:22.119
that other planets and objects from our
solar system, including some moons, may

728
01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:27.079
also have platonic those platonic solids within
them. For instance, we know that

729
01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:30.800
Jupiter is a gazous giant. So
it is, you know, just made

730
01:03:30.840 --> 01:03:34.760
out of gas, and we do
not know what hides inside because there are

731
01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:37.400
so many thick layers of those gases. We do not know if it is

732
01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:44.239
entirely made out of gases or maybe
it has like some minor rock inside of

733
01:03:44.320 --> 01:03:50.159
it and gases all around. But
you know, those gases behave in such

734
01:03:50.199 --> 01:03:53.880
a way. There are like winds
in those gases that may point that some

735
01:03:54.159 --> 01:03:59.079
platonic solids. I don't remember which
one, because there are five platonic solid

736
01:03:59.599 --> 01:04:03.079
that a lot of excelt like a
crystal shape, maybe inside the Jupiter and

737
01:04:03.239 --> 01:04:09.840
also within a few moons from the
Solar System. So it's a very interesting

738
01:04:09.960 --> 01:04:15.280
concept. Maybe you know, our
entire universe is geometric, it's no hormonious

739
01:04:15.400 --> 01:04:18.920
who knows, And maybe our planet's
interior is really a crystal, but maybe

740
01:04:19.039 --> 01:04:28.519
it is just those sleigh lines are
only some metaphysical energies. Wow, as

741
01:04:28.599 --> 01:04:32.559
we come down to it, Alex, you I want to spend a few

742
01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:35.880
minutes on the Mahabarata, which is
a fascinating story. You bring it up

743
01:04:35.960 --> 01:04:40.639
quite a bit. There's a great
deal of confusion, and this is supposed

744
01:04:40.679 --> 01:04:45.079
to be the great war for the
planet Earth, and in the story,

745
01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:50.880
which is ancient and handed down thousands
of years, apparently this war happened around

746
01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:58.239
five thousand years ago. But it
doesn't seem possible given that the text within

747
01:04:58.360 --> 01:05:05.599
the Mahabarata describes very very advanced technology
like the Vermonas and other craft and powerful

748
01:05:05.679 --> 01:05:15.159
weapons that can lay wasted thousands of
soldiers. So how do you interpret the

749
01:05:15.480 --> 01:05:21.079
Mahabarata based on your research? You
know, Mahabarata is really hard. You

750
01:05:21.480 --> 01:05:28.599
even can't have a full unabridged version. Even the most full versions are abridged

751
01:05:28.679 --> 01:05:32.639
by scholars because it would take like
several volumes like that to have full Because

752
01:05:32.960 --> 01:05:39.320
I calculated it once, I've got
like this huge book that it is very

753
01:05:39.400 --> 01:05:45.360
detailed, so it doesn't have so
many like mistakes, I think, And

754
01:05:45.519 --> 01:05:47.440
it is by of course a scholar. It is from pingin classics. But

755
01:05:47.599 --> 01:05:53.320
when it comes to Mahabarata, something
that it is like a fery saying like

756
01:05:53.559 --> 01:05:56.960
nowadays you have Star Wars, and
some one thousand years from now, it

757
01:05:57.119 --> 01:06:01.360
interprets Star Wars as real history.
So skeptics say like that, but we

758
01:06:01.480 --> 01:06:06.000
do not know when the world of
Mahabarata happened, we have only we do

759
01:06:06.079 --> 01:06:13.559
not have exact dates, but we
have one date in Mahabarata, which is

760
01:06:14.199 --> 01:06:20.079
the Great flood and Caluga, which
interestingly happened on the eighteenth of February three

761
01:06:20.199 --> 01:06:26.400
thousand, one hundred oh two.
So it was like we mentioned first civilizations

762
01:06:26.440 --> 01:06:30.480
three thousand, one hundred years and
before that there was, according to Mahabarata,

763
01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:34.159
a great flood and the Caliyuga,
the Dark Age happened to start.

764
01:06:34.480 --> 01:06:40.639
So it is I think a cool
coincidence that the first civilizations appeared exactly almost

765
01:06:40.719 --> 01:06:44.119
at the same date. But when
it comes to the battle itself and other

766
01:06:44.239 --> 01:06:46.920
stuff, there is no date to
that. And there are some interpreters I

767
01:06:47.119 --> 01:06:51.840
mentioned them in my book that say
that Mahabarata, that events from Mahabarata are,

768
01:06:53.039 --> 01:07:00.920
according to astrological phenomena described in Mahabarata
from about thirty thousand BC thirty maybe

769
01:07:00.039 --> 01:07:03.760
twenty eight thousand BC, which would
be I think much more realistic. And

770
01:07:03.880 --> 01:07:12.039
Mahabarata mentions in you said huge wars
technology and it mentioned a very exact number

771
01:07:12.119 --> 01:07:15.639
of people, which is more than
billion, that died at the battle of

772
01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:20.920
Kurukshetra. So imagine like one seventh
of the f's population dying at a single

773
01:07:21.039 --> 01:07:28.039
battle, and some people exactly some
people say that that's why it's say fairy

774
01:07:28.119 --> 01:07:31.239
tale, and you know people were
exaggerating everything, but you know, who

775
01:07:31.320 --> 01:07:38.239
knows what the word looked like,
like thirty forty or twenty thousand, YESBC.

776
01:07:38.840 --> 01:07:44.159
Some people say that we do not
have genetic evidence that such a huge

777
01:07:44.239 --> 01:07:49.079
number of people existed during those epochs, because there are some methods of geneticists

778
01:07:49.159 --> 01:07:55.400
to calculate those. But you know, several different things are accepted than are

779
01:07:55.480 --> 01:07:59.039
being changed, so maybe in ten
years it will be that maybe there was

780
01:07:59.199 --> 01:08:01.119
such a huge number of people.
So we do not know. I think

781
01:08:01.159 --> 01:08:06.800
that Mahabarata may incorporate some true knowledge
with some fiction or maybe, and it

782
01:08:06.960 --> 01:08:12.960
is a cool explanation. When it
comes to those spiritual Atlantists and those ages

783
01:08:13.039 --> 01:08:17.079
which are the best I think described
the best in the Mahabarata in no other

784
01:08:17.359 --> 01:08:21.960
ancient or medieval Hindu text, those
you guys are not described in my opinion

785
01:08:23.960 --> 01:08:29.880
that specific, and that I think
connecting Atlantis and other lost history tails.

786
01:08:30.520 --> 01:08:33.680
But when it comes to Mahabarata.
I have also another thing that those huge

787
01:08:33.760 --> 01:08:40.760
numbers and of those weapons may be
connected to what I mentioned about psychic because

788
01:08:41.079 --> 01:08:45.479
there is at least one or two
mentions of true psychic abilities in Mahabarata that

789
01:08:45.560 --> 01:08:49.199
I found that are psychic. No
technology for sure. So it may be

790
01:08:49.720 --> 01:08:55.159
that Mahabarata is telling us about maybe
some astral battles, you know, some

791
01:08:55.640 --> 01:08:59.680
maybe different dimensions, you know,
coming together. We do not know if

792
01:08:59.720 --> 01:09:03.119
you were right now to like open
to all the psychic crowns of angels,

793
01:09:03.319 --> 01:09:08.680
extraterrestrials and all of the stuff that
people are talking about. Who knows if

794
01:09:08.720 --> 01:09:13.239
there isn't plenty of other beings fighting
at the same time. You know,

795
01:09:13.359 --> 01:09:16.840
even in Europe there is a huge
amount of flaw and also in Native Americans

796
01:09:16.920 --> 01:09:23.399
about entities that are all the time
within us, but we do not see

797
01:09:23.479 --> 01:09:28.159
them like some elves, like some
gnomes, like some spirits and stuff like

798
01:09:28.279 --> 01:09:32.159
that. So it may be that
Mahabarata may be a true like history,

799
01:09:32.600 --> 01:09:39.359
but maybe including those things of non
physical origin. And it may be connected

800
01:09:39.399 --> 01:09:45.640
of course to Native Americans for telling
that they sometimes see things that normal human

801
01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:47.760
beings do not see, and it
may be connected to the fall of Atlantis,

802
01:09:48.159 --> 01:09:54.079
when people started to be so animalistic, so immersed in MATTERI that they

803
01:09:54.199 --> 01:10:00.760
forgot their divine origin. My guess
has been Alex Cheshikovic, and the book

804
01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:08.159
he has written is called Deja Vu? Has everything already been in search of

805
01:10:08.479 --> 01:10:13.439
previous last civilizations? And you got
to get this book, my friends.

806
01:10:13.520 --> 01:10:16.600
It is a pack full of really
really good data, very original thinking,

807
01:10:17.479 --> 01:10:25.079
which I personally appreciate. And as
we conclude, Alex talk a little bit

808
01:10:25.119 --> 01:10:31.640
about the extraterrestrial connection, which apparently
plays out in some ancient history and the

809
01:10:31.760 --> 01:10:38.720
Maya that I study do talk about
star people, but the whole ancient alien

810
01:10:41.439 --> 01:10:47.159
tag on a lot of these unusual
anomalies, be it the Great Pyramid,

811
01:10:47.359 --> 01:10:57.319
be it the ballboch massive stonework is
easily considered et because we can't explain it.

812
01:10:57.399 --> 01:11:02.760
But in your research, do the
etes fall in the place? I

813
01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:09.319
think, and it is in the
line of spiritual lost civilizations, but not

814
01:11:09.479 --> 01:11:15.199
only spiritual. I think that most, like about eighty percent of itties may

815
01:11:15.239 --> 01:11:18.840
be of non physical origins. And
I think that these are the entities,

816
01:11:18.960 --> 01:11:23.840
the aliens that we have the most
evidence for. For instance, we have

817
01:11:23.920 --> 01:11:29.720
ayahuasca, and we have plenty of
anthropologists who studied that people who drunk ay

818
01:11:29.800 --> 01:11:35.319
aquasca are really experiencing some non physical
beings that are teaching them some things,

819
01:11:35.359 --> 01:11:39.119
you know, they are telling them
the stuff about the universe and stuff like

820
01:11:39.239 --> 01:11:43.399
that, which in my opinion isn't
of course the imagination, but maybe some

821
01:11:43.880 --> 01:11:47.880
non physical beings, maybe some that
are everywhere, you know, around us,

822
01:11:47.960 --> 01:11:50.800
but we do not see them.
And as I mentioned, there is

823
01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:57.199
the most evidence for those non physical
eaties, but of course it doesn't exclude

824
01:11:57.199 --> 01:12:00.479
the possibility of physical aliens. As
I mentioned, I think that vimanas may

825
01:12:00.840 --> 01:12:04.600
have been really physical, you know, flying machines, not some like some

826
01:12:04.800 --> 01:12:09.600
people mentioned, metaphysical. I do
not know for sure, but I think

827
01:12:09.680 --> 01:12:15.960
also that those spiritual no spirituals,
no non physical entities, do not exclude

828
01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:19.880
true aliens. But we do not
have that much evidence for physical aliens that

829
01:12:20.079 --> 01:12:25.880
we have for non physical alience.
Even nowadays, with all of those channelings

830
01:12:25.920 --> 01:12:29.720
and people who are meeting itties in
their dreams and stuff like that, it

831
01:12:29.840 --> 01:12:34.720
seems like this is all maybe on
another density or something or things like that.

832
01:12:35.399 --> 01:12:39.439
And when it comes also to evidence, the aya aquaska is one of

833
01:12:39.520 --> 01:12:45.960
the best evidence because ay aquasca is
a mixture of plenty different herbs, different

834
01:12:45.119 --> 01:12:51.279
plants, and some of them are
processed, some of them are cooked and

835
01:12:51.359 --> 01:12:57.479
stuff like that, and some not. And researchers found that you just exclude

836
01:12:57.600 --> 01:13:00.840
one or two things of the recipe, and iowaska do not work, and

837
01:13:01.239 --> 01:13:05.439
you just maybe do not exclude some
plant but maybe kukwan and not another.

838
01:13:05.880 --> 01:13:11.359
And also this recipe doesn't work.
So I think that also some teachers of

839
01:13:11.479 --> 01:13:15.000
mankind so were of course physical with
those handbags, but some teachers of mankind

840
01:13:15.079 --> 01:13:19.920
may be not with the atlantis,
maybe even from previous times when people started

841
01:13:20.399 --> 01:13:27.199
to exist. I think that maybe
those teachers who are non physical and who

842
01:13:27.279 --> 01:13:30.800
are teaching people. And this in
connection, for instance, with plenty of

843
01:13:30.159 --> 01:13:34.720
tales about God's who are considered to
be aliens by the ancient alience community.

844
01:13:35.239 --> 01:13:41.800
For instance, in Plutar's Dialogue or
Treaty on Isis and Oisiris, there say

845
01:13:41.920 --> 01:13:46.520
mentioned that Osiris came to Egypt in
distant per history, and so people so

846
01:13:46.760 --> 01:13:50.560
primitive that they were eating each other. So he taught them how to not

847
01:13:50.680 --> 01:13:55.840
eat each other, that you shouldn't
be a cannibal and he taught them,

848
01:13:55.880 --> 01:13:59.279
you know, basic stuff. So
it may be that the stale of Osiris

849
01:13:59.399 --> 01:14:02.439
is even before the times of Lost
civilizations, when humanity was really in a

850
01:14:02.600 --> 01:14:06.439
very primitive state, maybe even home
in its state. And maybe it is

851
01:14:06.600 --> 01:14:13.880
a stone ape theory that we evolved
because of the hallocin organic maybe mushrooms may

852
01:14:13.920 --> 01:14:17.640
be things like ay aquasca, and
because of that we became anatomically modern humans

853
01:14:17.680 --> 01:14:21.880
with all of the advanced possibilities.
So it may be that not only those

854
01:14:21.960 --> 01:14:28.359
non physical aliens who were helping us
with our development, but also those hallo

855
01:14:28.439 --> 01:14:32.560
snorganic materials themselves. So this is
my take on alience, which do not

856
01:14:32.800 --> 01:14:36.680
exclude physical alience of course, But
I think, as I mentioned, my

857
01:14:38.000 --> 01:14:41.760
first book is really evidence base,
and I think that we have much more

858
01:14:41.840 --> 01:14:45.920
evidence, even for Edgar Casey's stuff
than for the true physical aliens that,

859
01:14:46.239 --> 01:14:51.359
for instance, build the pyramids.
Ah, So have you taken ayahuasca?

860
01:14:53.119 --> 01:14:59.119
No? No, no, But
I'm very spiritual. I had, I

861
01:14:59.279 --> 01:15:01.600
used to offer and have prophetic dreams, and I am you know, I'm

862
01:15:01.640 --> 01:15:06.079
not a materialist, so I am
you know, I'm open minded, and

863
01:15:06.159 --> 01:15:14.239
I think that if things that were
so unnatural, according to this materialistic scientific

864
01:15:14.359 --> 01:15:16.199
point of view, happened to me. So I think that you know,

865
01:15:16.319 --> 01:15:23.199
of course aliens or some other beings
could also happen to other people. You

866
01:15:23.239 --> 01:15:29.399
know, it's funny you didn't mention
the Ananachi, which people like zacharaiz Sinchion,

867
01:15:29.520 --> 01:15:35.000
which you actually have in your book
in many places, developed his career

868
01:15:35.159 --> 01:15:42.520
around and here we have dates of
four hundred thousand years and then creating the

869
01:15:42.720 --> 01:15:46.520
atom. And you know Sitchen,
you you speak of him very highly.

870
01:15:48.800 --> 01:15:55.800
Do you believe that Sitchen interpreted the
cuneiforms, the Sumerian cuniforms correctly, because

871
01:15:55.840 --> 01:16:01.680
there's a lot of people who feel
that he misinterpreted them and that his stories

872
01:16:01.760 --> 01:16:06.600
of aliens is kind of far fetch. What do you say I think of

873
01:16:06.760 --> 01:16:11.840
sitching in fifty to fifty or even
forty to sixty. Actually, I don't

874
01:16:12.880 --> 01:16:16.359
highly estimate him. And even in
my book, I when it comes to

875
01:16:16.760 --> 01:16:21.520
the cycles of time which may be
connected to a binary star, like we

876
01:16:21.640 --> 01:16:27.159
have sun and a binary star.
Our solar system may be binary. I

877
01:16:27.279 --> 01:16:32.359
found out many critics like Michael Heiser
that pointed out that Sitchin's version and vision

878
01:16:32.439 --> 01:16:36.880
of Neiberu most likely it's not about
additional plant, but maybe a star.

879
01:16:38.399 --> 01:16:42.920
And you know, it was one
of the count arguments against Zachariah Sitchin,

880
01:16:43.479 --> 01:16:47.239
So it may be that I think
that's sitch A mistranslated in many cases.

881
01:16:47.359 --> 01:16:50.800
But in some cases, of course
he was to some extent write as I

882
01:16:50.840 --> 01:16:55.960
mentioned, fifty to fifty, maybe
forty sixty. But I think that plenty

883
01:16:56.000 --> 01:17:00.119
of things about the Annaki, and
I read both both such and both academic

884
01:17:00.239 --> 01:17:05.359
works. The truth when it comes
to modern law like Facebook groups or some

885
01:17:05.720 --> 01:17:13.119
like low level researchers that are talking
about the anonarchis the Anonachy thing is somewhere

886
01:17:13.199 --> 01:17:15.960
between like fifty to fifty, because
for sure we've got anunak, we've got

887
01:17:16.039 --> 01:17:21.119
tastes of different gods in the true
texts from ancient Mesopotamia. But to some

888
01:17:21.319 --> 01:17:27.279
extent, in not one but a
few cases, Sitching, of course,

889
01:17:27.840 --> 01:17:32.359
miss may be misinterpreted, may be
mistranslated those texts. So I don't think

890
01:17:32.479 --> 01:17:36.359
that the career citying was one hundred
percent right. I am like on defense

891
01:17:36.479 --> 01:17:41.800
with him. I do not critique
him that he was like hoaxer lawyer and

892
01:17:41.840 --> 01:17:45.800
stuff like that. No, I'm
not of that opinion. But I think

893
01:17:45.880 --> 01:17:48.760
that he isn't telling as the whole
truth. And maybe I even found out.

894
01:17:49.359 --> 01:17:53.840
I used to have a video about
it, but it was like so

895
01:17:54.600 --> 01:17:58.920
reported so many times that I had
to delete it. It was about Sitchins

896
01:17:59.000 --> 01:18:04.760
connections with Freemasonry and secret societies.
So it may be a conspiracy stuff.

897
01:18:04.920 --> 01:18:10.039
Maybe you know, Sitchens was put
to the public, that's why he became.

898
01:18:10.399 --> 01:18:13.359
It's a conspiracy here, of course, but maybe he was put there,

899
01:18:13.720 --> 01:18:16.560
you know, with all of those
best sellers of order to create a

900
01:18:16.680 --> 01:18:23.119
narrative for people to believe. Because
his version of Annaki is I think negative

901
01:18:23.239 --> 01:18:28.520
that we are most likely prisonmen.
We were created the Adam was created to

902
01:18:28.640 --> 01:18:32.279
work for the gods. So it
is a negative way of thinking about humans,

903
01:18:32.319 --> 01:18:35.560
that we are just slaves. And
it may be connected because I know

904
01:18:35.720 --> 01:18:40.800
plenty of people in our niche that
are thinking very negative that we are just

905
01:18:40.960 --> 01:18:45.239
slaves, and that creates hopelessness.
Really that creaks in many people's lives,

906
01:18:45.319 --> 01:18:49.840
hopelessness. So this may be this
part lack of massive, massive pig hope,

907
01:18:49.880 --> 01:18:54.840
you know what I mean. Yeah, that's their last question. So

908
01:18:55.359 --> 01:18:58.920
you know, I have a lot
of friends who are archaeologists and anthropologists,

909
01:18:59.079 --> 01:19:08.159
and you know, you have to
wonder when they begin to cross over and

910
01:19:08.319 --> 01:19:15.279
begin looking at some of the theories
that are considered pseudo science or pseudo history.

911
01:19:16.000 --> 01:19:24.000
Their reluctance to go back into deep
time periods over a couple of thousand

912
01:19:24.079 --> 01:19:29.520
years is a real challenge for them. And I don't see it changing anytime

913
01:19:29.760 --> 01:19:33.760
soon. Is it your belief that
we're going to have to have some major

914
01:19:34.199 --> 01:19:42.760
discoveries in the form of perhaps early
technology or documents or somebody like Irving Finkel

915
01:19:43.279 --> 01:19:48.439
breaks down a cuneiform and all of
a sudden he reads the text of an

916
01:19:48.479 --> 01:19:55.359
ancient king who built the pyramid?
Or what do you say? What do

917
01:19:55.439 --> 01:20:00.760
you say? Because it's really a
challenge to hear from academia. I mean,

918
01:20:00.800 --> 01:20:05.840
when Graham Hancock did his Ancient Apocalypse
series, the archaeological community in the

919
01:20:05.960 --> 01:20:12.319
United States wrote a real scathing letter
to him and said, how dare you

920
01:20:12.560 --> 01:20:16.880
tell us that we don't have it
right? Yes, it is. I

921
01:20:17.039 --> 01:20:21.199
mentioned it is a bigger problem.
It is like an archetype. You know,

922
01:20:21.319 --> 01:20:27.439
we've got archetypes like father archetype,
like a wise man archetype, and

923
01:20:27.520 --> 01:20:32.279
it is not archetype correctly speaking,
but some kind of this type, which

924
01:20:32.439 --> 01:20:36.880
is manifesting on many, many levels. You know, one level of manifestation

925
01:20:38.159 --> 01:20:43.640
is closing to any non physical stuff
in the scientific dogma, because it is

926
01:20:43.760 --> 01:20:47.279
dogma because if science was just you
know, a free endeavor in order to

927
01:20:47.319 --> 01:20:51.479
find knowledge, it wouldn't assume that
only matter and its interaction exists, you

928
01:20:51.600 --> 01:20:56.680
know what I mean. So it
is on this level and on another level.

929
01:20:56.800 --> 01:21:00.479
These are the skeptics who constantly repeat, like part after Carl Sagan,

930
01:21:00.640 --> 01:21:08.720
that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence,
and we do not have extraordinary evidence,

931
01:21:08.760 --> 01:21:13.560
so everything is hoaxed. But you
know it is lack of imagination. You

932
01:21:13.640 --> 01:21:15.840
know, our history may have happened
in another way, but you know,

933
01:21:15.920 --> 01:21:19.319
we do not have evidence, so
we only accept what we have evidence for.

934
01:21:19.840 --> 01:21:26.359
But I mentioned we didn't have any
evidence for Summer and we excluded Sumer,

935
01:21:26.760 --> 01:21:30.680
so maybe we do not have evidence
yet for Atlantis proper atlantis. We

936
01:21:30.840 --> 01:21:35.520
exclude Atlantis. But why go and
fight like Graham Hancock, like fight other

937
01:21:35.720 --> 01:21:40.479
people who are just you know,
speculating, who have open minds, who

938
01:21:40.520 --> 01:21:44.199
are showing us that you know,
there's a huge potential maybe something happened in

939
01:21:44.239 --> 01:21:49.279
a different way in cases when we
do not have enough explanation, like for

940
01:21:49.399 --> 01:21:54.520
all of the animalists that we mentioned, and you know these people. I

941
01:21:54.720 --> 01:21:59.640
often say that the truth will always
win, you know, even if you

942
01:21:59.760 --> 01:22:02.600
will try to hire it, if
you even if you will try to lie,

943
01:22:03.319 --> 01:22:09.239
most of the times, the truth
always will be found, maybe after

944
01:22:09.399 --> 01:22:14.600
many years. So if scientists believe
that they know the truth, and we

945
01:22:15.000 --> 01:22:19.319
as the sciences are wrong, why
are they fighting with us? If their

946
01:22:19.840 --> 01:22:25.560
dogma is full and everything about our
history, leave us alone. You know,

947
01:22:25.880 --> 01:22:29.119
we are not dangerous, We are
not we're threatening them. I think

948
01:22:29.199 --> 01:22:33.640
that they know a lot of these
guys know that they're guessing. It's been

949
01:22:33.800 --> 01:22:35.760
fun. It's been fun to have
you. We're gonna have to have you

950
01:22:35.920 --> 01:22:42.039
back. I you have so much
packed into this book. Tell how people

951
01:22:42.079 --> 01:22:44.880
can tell people us about how people
can get hold of you. We know

952
01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:49.760
that your book is on Amazon,
but yes, what other what's your website?

953
01:22:49.800 --> 01:22:55.119
Give us your website? My website
is just give you the global dot

954
01:22:55.239 --> 01:23:00.039
com. So probably you will have
to put copy paste. I'll put it

955
01:23:00.159 --> 01:23:05.680
on. I'll put it on our
thank you because it's always I was at

956
01:23:06.039 --> 01:23:11.920
a radio station with about three million
listens, but no one checked me out

957
01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:18.000
because no one could respel my surname
unfortunately, so this is a but I

958
01:23:18.119 --> 01:23:21.560
think. But no, don't worry, Alexander, JUSTKEIVI. You can find

959
01:23:21.600 --> 01:23:26.079
me on Facebook, YouTube and my
book. You can just type Asia.

960
01:23:26.199 --> 01:23:30.640
He has everything already be on Amazon
in the USA, in UK, Europe

961
01:23:30.760 --> 01:23:35.399
and many other places on the entire
world, and also my website which will

962
01:23:35.520 --> 01:23:41.960
be lined Okay, perfect, fantastic. Hey, this is great stuff.

963
01:23:42.159 --> 01:23:45.439
I really enjoyed reading your book.
I'm not done with it obviously. Uh.

964
01:23:46.000 --> 01:23:49.119
And you say you're working on some
other books, so we'll look forward

965
01:23:49.119 --> 01:23:54.920
to seeing those any dates coming up
in minor. Is it one of those

966
01:23:55.520 --> 01:24:00.600
slow builds kind of situation. No, I am at the different type of

967
01:24:00.640 --> 01:24:04.520
writer I can, you know,
under like conscious something. I can write

968
01:24:05.000 --> 01:24:10.000
like half or three words of a
book on like in the week or something,

969
01:24:10.119 --> 01:24:15.000
and then I have like months or
something without writing. But I think

970
01:24:15.079 --> 01:24:19.119
this year I will publish the next
one or maybe even too in Polish for

971
01:24:19.279 --> 01:24:24.479
sure, but maybe I will try
by the end of this year to translate

972
01:24:24.560 --> 01:24:28.560
because it also takes time into English, because I will be mainly probably,

973
01:24:28.640 --> 01:24:31.319
but I don't know, maybe writing
Polish. Maybe in English, but at

974
01:24:31.439 --> 01:24:36.319
least one book in one language this
year. Fantastic. Hey, uh,

975
01:24:36.880 --> 01:24:43.319
great book and really enjoying speaking with
you. Let's have you back. Thank

976
01:24:43.359 --> 01:24:49.000
you for having me on. I
want to mention that if you are new

977
01:24:49.079 --> 01:24:59.439
to this entire paradigm of scientific evidence
and material based on ancient, unknown civilizations,

978
01:25:00.159 --> 01:25:03.840
which is what Earth Ancients is trying
to put his finger on, this

979
01:25:04.039 --> 01:25:11.319
is a good primer. Alex has
done a really good job of writing in

980
01:25:11.520 --> 01:25:15.119
referencing many of the people we have
on the show, notably people like Graham

981
01:25:15.199 --> 01:25:20.119
Hancock, goes back to John Anthony
West. The list goes on and on

982
01:25:20.199 --> 01:25:25.640
and on, Freddy Silva, Hugh
Newman, a lot of people are referenced

983
01:25:26.079 --> 01:25:30.560
in The writing is very compelling to
it. I was really surprised. I

984
01:25:31.520 --> 01:25:34.359
wondered if he used an editing tool, and I think he probably did,

985
01:25:34.520 --> 01:25:41.039
But it doesn't matter. It's very
readable, it runs very quickly, and

986
01:25:41.600 --> 01:25:45.960
he's got excellent references. He's got
a lot of very very good graphs and

987
01:25:46.039 --> 01:25:54.439
photographs. The writing is good and
it flows, and that's really a critical

988
01:25:54.680 --> 01:25:59.960
part of being a compelling writer.
And he's in the middle of another book

989
01:26:00.119 --> 01:26:02.279
or two. I think he said, so we should expect more from him.

990
01:26:02.359 --> 01:26:08.520
I'm gonna have Alex back to talk
about specific chapters, probably in the

991
01:26:08.600 --> 01:26:13.720
summertime, because there's no way to
get through the whole book. I in

992
01:26:13.800 --> 01:26:17.079
the beginning, I said three hundred
pages, more like four twenty four hundred

993
01:26:17.079 --> 01:26:21.920
and twenty pages plus. And he's
got a couple of issues that he brings

994
01:26:23.039 --> 01:26:32.760
up, including the cartouche apparently Kufus
cartouche that's inside the Great Pyramid, and

995
01:26:33.239 --> 01:26:40.600
the story of Howard Weis who apparently
planeted it in the late eighteen hundreds.

996
01:26:41.119 --> 01:26:44.960
You know, this is a real
concern, is the fact that if you

997
01:26:45.119 --> 01:26:49.279
are locked in a paradigm that doesn't
say you can go beyond ten thousand years

998
01:26:49.319 --> 01:26:55.680
for mankind, a lot of weird
and dangerous things can happen, like forging

999
01:26:55.920 --> 01:27:00.479
cartoushes, which is what Howard Advice
did. There's a lot of story about

1000
01:27:00.720 --> 01:27:10.720
people like Zahi l Wass and other
Egyptian egyptologists covering up shafts under the pyramids

1001
01:27:10.880 --> 01:27:18.600
under the Sphinx and also claiming discoveries
as their own. And this is a

1002
01:27:18.720 --> 01:27:23.680
continual problem. I talk a great
deal about it whenever we go to Egypt.

1003
01:27:24.399 --> 01:27:30.159
It's just criminal that they don't use
ground penetraian radar in and around noted

1004
01:27:30.039 --> 01:27:35.239
temples. And I always mention the
Hathor Temple in the city of Dendera because

1005
01:27:35.880 --> 01:27:43.279
that temple sits on the columns of
a much earlier temple. Well, what's

1006
01:27:43.319 --> 01:27:47.439
going to happen is when somebody figures
it out and gets bright about it.

1007
01:27:47.560 --> 01:27:50.039
EI they're either going to do a
light our scan. That's the other thing.

1008
01:27:50.720 --> 01:27:56.079
They haven't done any major light oar
scans of any of the areas around

1009
01:27:56.159 --> 01:28:00.319
there. It's going to blow the
whole lid off the whole place to be

1010
01:28:00.359 --> 01:28:04.439
able to contain it. But my
point being is that there is evidence of

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an earlier temple under Hathor that they
will not allow to be scanned or excavated,

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and it's just causing a great deal
of havoc among independents. And that's

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those are archaeologists as well as research
investigators like myself. So what I'm trying

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to say is that there is some
evidence, and it's in Alex's book of

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covering up data, squelching data,
rejecting new data. And this has always

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been a problem when it comes to
science. Rejecting new ideas it's steeped.

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This is a problem in archaeology,
and it continues to be a problem.

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And I've mentioned this many times.
If you've heard doctor Kerry Cooney, who's

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an Egyptologist from you see La here
in California. When I first had her

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on, she set it out right, Egyptology is dead. They're following outdated

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systems, outdated modes. Same could
be said for a lot of similar archaeology.

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I bring this up in my book
the Maya Controversy, that they are

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not even working with the living Maya
and they are guestimating dates, figures,

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kings, queens, events. It's
just mind blowing that we have to submit

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to this, and it's taking a
concerted effort to call these people out.

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And this is what was fascinating in
the letter written by the Association of American

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Archaeologists to Graham Hancock and his making
of the Ancient Apocalypse series on Netflix.

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They were outraged that he would question
their theories number one and number two.

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They called him a racist and a
bigot. And they need to look in

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the mirror because it's my evidence and
an evidence of a lot of people on

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this program that the current crop of
archaeologists who are been trained, and this

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training goes back over one hundred and
fifty years, are out of touch.

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They're completely out of touch. And
for us to get new data, for

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us to understand where we came from, who our ancestors were, we have

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to punch the We have to punch
a hole in that hot air bag that

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we call our history, because a
good deal of it is simply guest work

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hypothesis. They don't have the data. They're using comparative study, and a

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01:30:48.760 --> 01:30:55.600
great example is the Maya. They
use the Romans as a comparative civilization because

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they believe that the Romans lived around
the same time as the As they are

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actually dynastic Maya. But what they
completely forget is there's a whole period that

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is missing. Perhaps tens of thousands
of years of Mayan culture are not being

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identified because the Mayanists who are out
excavating, the handful of academics who are

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01:31:23.800 --> 01:31:30.479
out doing this work are using outdated
data. They're using data that's long long

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01:31:30.720 --> 01:31:34.279
gone, and so this is what
we're dealing with. So anyhow, get

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Alex's book Deja Vu. I'm going
to post it on the Facebook page.

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Also look for the graphics that I'm
going to put on Facebook because they're kind

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of cool, especially when it comes
to Atlan and Atlantis, very very close

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similarities in fascinating consideration. Hey,
we do tours every year. They As

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does the Grand Egyptian Tours coming up
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twenty fourth, and then we're also
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1052
01:32:13.640 --> 01:32:17.239
haven't done it in like four years, and that's going to be November eighth

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01:32:17.520 --> 01:32:23.680
through the seventeenth. That's the Yucatan
Peninsula where there's some of the most beautifully

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constructed and complex Mayan ruins in the
world, chichinitza ushmol Ekbalam lab Na.

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There's just a ton of places we're
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the perspective of experts who we're with, and Egypt's gonna be Mohammed Embrium.

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We're gonna have Mimo Gonzalez in Yucatan, Mexico Generational Tour Guide, and then

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that's it for this program. I
want to think my guest today Alexander Sheshkevich

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coming to us from Poland and his
new book is Deja Vu. Has everything

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already been? And as always,
my team of Ruth Thomas, Mark Foster

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and everyone who makes this thing happen. You guys rock all right, take

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care of be well and we'll talk
to you next time.