WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.439 --> 00:00:07.519 This is Eye on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jacon Zalis on Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.519 --> 00:00:14.919 fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services Ensure your most Prized Possessions katz R two 3 00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:18.800 SA at iHeart Radio Station. Hey, good up to do and everybody, 4 00:00:18.839 --> 00:00:22.399 welcome to Eye on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve 5 00:00:22.480 --> 00:00:27.160 Rivera, our partner jagmes as with our guy Jason in handling the work here. 6 00:00:27.800 --> 00:00:31.559 When was the last time you worked on your eyebrows? Jay? Never? 7 00:00:32.159 --> 00:00:36.000 Never? Never? Why Golden State needs to work on it? Oh? 8 00:00:36.159 --> 00:00:40.600 Yeah, they have it. They do have a brow problem. At 9 00:00:40.640 --> 00:00:44.200 least they had hip. But you know, the good news for the for 10 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:51.640 the Warriors is that the discussion today has been that every time Anthony Davis plays 11 00:00:51.640 --> 00:00:55.280 a game like he played last night, he either gets hurt for the next 12 00:00:55.320 --> 00:00:58.119 game or plays terrible the next games. You've got that going for you. 13 00:00:58.280 --> 00:01:00.359 I think they were just stunned and they gotta be well, he almost had 14 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:04.599 it one fourteen zero run. Yeah, I'm a Warrior guy, and I'm 15 00:01:04.599 --> 00:01:11.959 not afraid. I'm not afraid, not afraid of Jordan pool shot selection. 16 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:15.200 He had a good game outside of when that last one. Yeah, you 17 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:17.760 should have been more patient. Did you have a very good game? But 18 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:22.319 yeah, I think now now is the time Green should beat the crap out 19 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:25.719 of them, right yeah, just say said the photo of Steph Curry like 20 00:01:25.760 --> 00:01:27.400 bent over, just like, oh what are you doing? I can't believe 21 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:30.760 he took that shot. The problem was he had sixteen seconds, fifteen seconds, 22 00:01:32.319 --> 00:01:34.640 plenty of times, plenty of times take a step ain't get a better 23 00:01:34.680 --> 00:01:37.959 shot? House the ball? See if to see if Steph Curry can get 24 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:40.840 open? Right? Yeah, right right, But it is what it is. 25 00:01:41.400 --> 00:01:42.400 It should be fun the rest of the way. Yeah, you know, 26 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:47.000 the it's say, it's say what you want. The playoffs have been 27 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:49.480 interesting, yeah, you know a lot of drama. By that, and 28 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:53.640 by by the drama, I mean just that you know the uh you know, 29 00:01:55.319 --> 00:01:59.239 the Warriors were down two games that came back and won. The Suns 30 00:01:59.239 --> 00:02:01.239 are down two games right now and people are saying they suck and they may 31 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:05.560 well come back and win the next two at home. Um, you know 32 00:02:05.599 --> 00:02:08.800 the number one seed the Bucks got got eliminated. Uh. Just been a 33 00:02:08.800 --> 00:02:13.080 lot of really interesting stuff going on in these playoffs this year. Yeah, 34 00:02:13.120 --> 00:02:15.080 a lot of fun. People get start to watch more. Everybody starts to 35 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:16.800 watch more to the playoffs. Yeah, well, you know what, I 36 00:02:16.879 --> 00:02:22.599 think people are just watching more because they're gambling more in this stuff. We 37 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:27.000 lost our bet last night. It's it's a burrito open deal. It was 38 00:02:27.039 --> 00:02:30.919 fun, though, I mean I didn't want well I watch well see see 39 00:02:30.960 --> 00:02:32.280 that's what that's what it got me to do. I put the game on 40 00:02:32.319 --> 00:02:36.360 and I watched it start to finish, and I was pissed off the whole 41 00:02:36.360 --> 00:02:40.639 game because you know both both You know, our bet was that Seth Curry, 42 00:02:40.919 --> 00:02:46.240 Steph Curry, it Steph Curry and Lebron would Yeah, I would combine 43 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:50.719 for sixty points or more. Um, you know, I think I think 44 00:02:50.759 --> 00:02:53.719 they had a combined twelve at the end of the first quarter and that wasn't 45 00:02:53.759 --> 00:02:58.960 good enough. Yeah, they finished with you know, Lebron got twenty Lebron 46 00:02:59.000 --> 00:03:04.319 got to twenty one. Uh, Steph got to twenty seven point. It 47 00:03:04.360 --> 00:03:07.039 wasn't close. It wasn't like, oh, in the fourth quarter we got 48 00:03:07.039 --> 00:03:09.199 a shot at it. Lebron wasn't putting any points on the board because Anthony 49 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:13.240 Davis was doing all the scoring. Yeah, no, that's so cool. 50 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:15.039 It's still fun. Yeah, that's all right. We'll see what happens in 51 00:03:15.080 --> 00:03:17.879 the next couple of days. Big games to night Boston, right, Boston 52 00:03:17.879 --> 00:03:22.400 plays Boston Philadelphia, Philadelphia. That's the only game tonight. On the next 53 00:03:22.439 --> 00:03:23.520 couple of days, we have more of the games. That's where they they've 54 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:28.360 they're spread out this week. Uh, you know, all week for some 55 00:03:28.400 --> 00:03:31.840 reason, like I think, but the Lakers don't play again until Friday, 56 00:03:31.879 --> 00:03:38.159 tomorrow. They play tomorrow Arts Friday. All right. The Suns don't play 57 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:40.759 to Friday. Yeah, yeah, okay, Um, you might want to 58 00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:45.960 do the old calendar of thinging. We need to know. Without a clock, 59 00:03:46.039 --> 00:03:49.520 we don't know where we're what we're doing. Uh, it's about twelve 60 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:53.400 what's it gonna be about twelve minutes? Um? Jay? Okay. So 61 00:03:53.439 --> 00:03:54.439 we talk about who we have on the show today. All right, Well, 62 00:03:54.479 --> 00:03:58.840 today we've got to Adam Green, who we invited him because he wrote 63 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:02.080 a column that was on point. He's an easy desert swarm that was on 64 00:04:02.199 --> 00:04:06.800 point with what Steve and I have been talking about about Arizona basketball fans and 65 00:04:06.840 --> 00:04:11.080 how they kind of need to calm down and all these people who are saying 66 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:15.000 that they've lost faith in Tommy Lloyd, his ability to recruit, YadA, 67 00:04:15.079 --> 00:04:18.879 YadA, yadda are just well, he didn't say really dumb. We've been 68 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:24.079 saying they're really dumb, but he was just basically saying people need to relax. 69 00:04:24.720 --> 00:04:26.560 So we'll talk to him about, you know, why he thinks, 70 00:04:26.600 --> 00:04:29.680 why he thinks that, what got him to write, to write the column 71 00:04:29.680 --> 00:04:31.519 that he wrote, and just some of his thoughts on what he thinks is 72 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:35.600 going on with recruiting, basketball, recruiting, whatnot. Tommy lads gotta look, 73 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:39.800 tom lads gotta fill up his roster this summer. But he's working on 74 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:42.399 it, and you know all these people who are saying, well, he 75 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:46.079 sucks because it's not full right now, you know, come on, patience, 76 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:50.040 Yeah, patience. And then Steve's gonna leave me halfway through the show. 77 00:04:50.720 --> 00:04:54.480 He's got an Neil Tour event he's got to tend. So it's gonna 78 00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:57.839 be Jason and I gonna go through breaking news, and then I've invited Greg 79 00:04:57.879 --> 00:05:00.240 Hanson to come in and just chew the at with us, talk a little 80 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:04.360 bit about some of everything. Um, there's a lot going on locally, 81 00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:09.519 you know, you know, be Jean Robinson getting drafted and uh, you 82 00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:13.399 know, some local teams doing really well. You've got to Pima baseball is 83 00:05:13.439 --> 00:05:18.199 in the UH is in the region championship UH tournament. You've got men uh 84 00:05:18.399 --> 00:05:23.519 Pima golf going to the Nationals. You had men's tennis in UH you know, 85 00:05:23.560 --> 00:05:27.319 in the nc DOUBAA tournament hosting and they'll be playing a match tomorrow. 86 00:05:27.319 --> 00:05:30.759 So just a lot of stuff going on locally and we'll just go into into 87 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:32.079 some of that stuff and then you know, maybe some of the national issues 88 00:05:32.079 --> 00:05:35.600 as well. Yeah, okay, uh we and and your calls, of 89 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:38.600 course, you can give us a price. We'll take your calls five to 90 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:41.560 two zero four one, six seventy four forty. Uh, we can take 91 00:05:41.560 --> 00:05:44.959 your calls anytime there aren't guests on the line, but uh, you know, 92 00:05:44.959 --> 00:05:47.120 feel free to go to call anytime five two zero four one six seventy 93 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:49.879 four forty. So we've been talking a lot of NBA, talking a lot 94 00:05:49.920 --> 00:05:54.399 of Arizona basketball. UM some things going on with the Arizona football. There 95 00:05:54.439 --> 00:05:57.720 was kind of a cool ranking that came out today that we can talk about 96 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:03.360 UM on three. Those are the guys that do the uh the nil valuation. 97 00:06:03.439 --> 00:06:10.399 They came out with the top ten wide receiver unit rankings in the country. 98 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:13.759 And in the top ten are Ohio State, Texas, Salasee, all 99 00:06:13.759 --> 00:06:15.959 the schools you expect, right, Ohio State, Texas, Selasee, Washington, 100 00:06:16.079 --> 00:06:19.360 USC, Georgia, Tennessee, Texas, A, and m Alabama and 101 00:06:20.240 --> 00:06:27.240 A top ten Arizona A number nine in the wide receivers wide receiver bations because 102 00:06:27.240 --> 00:06:30.000 of the team act and Jacob Colly. Yeah, and if they had if 103 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:35.240 they had kept yet Glorian Singer so Ohise Stas number one, Texas number two, 104 00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:40.560 LSU was three, Washington and USC are four and five, then Georgia, 105 00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:43.519 Tennessee, Texas A and M Arizona and Alabama. I mean it was 106 00:06:43.519 --> 00:06:46.759 like Arizona, which one of these does not generally belong in that on the 107 00:06:46.920 --> 00:06:49.439 list of anything. No, you just have to get them the damn ball. 108 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:53.920 Well, you know, we'll see how working on yeah, yeah, 109 00:06:53.959 --> 00:06:56.879 so I have. I just saw something coming in and sitting on open my 110 00:06:56.920 --> 00:07:00.879 computer. Let me let me read you remember the guy from Michigan Hunter Dickinson, 111 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:03.600 Right, Okay, he's thinking about going someplace blah blah blah. It's 112 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:08.720 one of his finances Kentucky and they thought it was a shoeing to go to 113 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:14.279 Kentucky. Right's blue blood. It's Kentucky for for for for sake, goodness 114 00:07:14.319 --> 00:07:17.079 sake, I guess is the word. According to somebody at Kentucky says, 115 00:07:17.160 --> 00:07:21.600 uh, the main reason he might not go there is that there's a lack 116 00:07:21.600 --> 00:07:27.560 of NIL guarantees that they're willing to make. This is at Kentucky, no 117 00:07:27.680 --> 00:07:30.000 less right, Yeah, and he says, hearing things aren't looking great for 118 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:36.399 UK and Hunter Dickinson. Kentucky hasn't given up on uk BB isn't guaranteeing nilney 119 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:41.319 as the other schools in the process are. So if people don't believe in 120 00:07:41.600 --> 00:07:45.839 the NIL that it's a thing, it's a thing, and it's not just 121 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:48.480 here, it's everywhere everywhere, and if you want to be part of it, 122 00:07:48.839 --> 00:07:50.600 you have to be part of it, right And you know, and 123 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:53.879 you have to think about how much money is there to go around? Right 124 00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:59.160 because you know, somebody raided Kentucky's recruiting class. Yeah, number one means 125 00:07:59.519 --> 00:08:01.319 they got the those guys. They probably come up with a lot of money 126 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:03.839 for those guys. Now they can't maybe they don't have money for a guy 127 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:07.800 like Hunter Dickinson. It's like when you know your your NFL quarterback gets a 128 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:11.199 you know, three hundred million dollars contract, Well, what do you got 129 00:08:11.279 --> 00:08:15.959 left for everybody else? And now those teams tend to suck because they don't 130 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:18.439 they can't pay the money to put enough players around. Sure, you're gonna 131 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:22.439 start seeing that in in college athletics, particularly football and basketball. It's, 132 00:08:22.600 --> 00:08:26.839 uh, it's it's a sad look. I mean, you've you've been a 133 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:31.720 fan forever because this is the way it is. Yeah again, it's like, 134 00:08:33.159 --> 00:08:35.399 well it's just that's it. I mean, you just gotta say it 135 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:39.120 is what it is. I mean, it's it's the changing uh economics of 136 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:43.320 of of of sports. You know, if you're if you grew up the 137 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:46.559 way we did and watch sports the way we did, and I mean, 138 00:08:46.639 --> 00:08:50.159 yeah, we knew players were getting paid, but it's always under the table. 139 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:52.440 It's like who can cheat better than the other. It was a little 140 00:08:52.480 --> 00:08:54.759 different than what it is now because everybody gets to do it and if you're 141 00:08:54.759 --> 00:09:01.240 not, then you're you're way behind. And and so we just have to 142 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:03.960 get you see that that that this is what it is. Instead of saying 143 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:05.240 I don't like it. Or I hate it or I'm not gonna you know, 144 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:09.559 I think it's crap. You just you just got to deal with it. 145 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:13.519 Yeah, Amateur Hour is over now, and the schools who are more 146 00:09:13.559 --> 00:09:18.080 prepared, more organized with all of this, so the school is going to 147 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:20.759 do well. Yeah, so so tell me. I read I think it 148 00:09:20.840 --> 00:09:26.080 was an Adam story, Adam Green who did it talking about collectives? Right, 149 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:28.559 but you said they're not collectives. That's not the right term. Well, 150 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:31.720 the two that we're talking about in Arizona, I don't I don't think 151 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:37.720 he called him something else. Remember, we specifically asked Adam Lazarus from from 152 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:43.639 Arizona, assist, is this a collective? And he said it's not. 153 00:09:43.759 --> 00:09:46.039 And I can't remember what he called it. I mean, I have to 154 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:48.639 go back and listen to that. He said, we're not a collective, 155 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:52.399 and he defined what's the difference between a collective and what they are? And 156 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:58.039 I don't remember what that. I can't text him and ask him what the 157 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:00.399 word he is. Remember, he can give us a call for a couple 158 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:05.360 just clear that up, because you know, a collective, I think a 159 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:13.039 collective is more tied to the university than what what the Arizona Assist is doing. 160 00:10:13.559 --> 00:10:18.000 Um uh. I consider to try and look up a definition of it, 161 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:24.240 but I'm not really sure. Um you know, the the the what 162 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:28.120 what? Uh? What Arizona Assist is doing. It's giving It's a place 163 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:33.240 where people can put money into this, but then they work to get the 164 00:10:33.320 --> 00:10:39.159 athletes to come and uh, you know earn that money, right, whereas 165 00:10:39.159 --> 00:10:43.120 I think a collective is just like handing out money. I could be wrong, 166 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:48.759 Um I it probably That's That's part of the problem, Steve. So 167 00:10:48.840 --> 00:10:54.480 much of this is so damn confusing as to what's what right right and talked 168 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:56.320 to have a couple of quick questions for them, because I've been asked. 169 00:10:56.320 --> 00:11:01.120 I've been asked on Facebook. You know, how much go to do the 170 00:11:01.240 --> 00:11:05.240 student athletes if they do contribute to him? Uh, Arizona Assist, I 171 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:07.480 should say, after costing all that stuff, Because I said, just go 172 00:11:07.519 --> 00:11:11.279 to the website. They'll tell you. Yeah. I don't think they're I 173 00:11:11.320 --> 00:11:13.679 think they're pretty open about that because people want to know that if I'm giving 174 00:11:13.679 --> 00:11:20.639 you one hundred dollars, I want to know that you know, ninety seven 175 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:22.559 of that is going for what I'm giving it too, and you can take 176 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:26.799 the other two or three percent. Yeah, you know to operate this thing, 177 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:33.159 you know, So I don't know. It's it's odd that we have 178 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:35.039 this confusion, but like I said, that's part of the problem. And 179 00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:37.519 it's a it's not that it's a moving target. It's just so new to 180 00:11:37.600 --> 00:11:41.320 people. And then there's confusion. Yeah, there's confusion. Don't just don't 181 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:43.639 know, and it's it's hard to understand. But if you want to be 182 00:11:43.720 --> 00:11:46.039 part of it, why not check into it? Right? But uh, 183 00:11:46.360 --> 00:11:50.720 you know, But in any event, what the bottom line is is it 184 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:56.879 taking money that hasn't been available, right, It's taking new money. They 185 00:11:56.960 --> 00:12:01.240 got to out gout to create new money, sure for this, and not 186 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:05.919 that he does this or doesn't do it. The clicks of the world, 187 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:07.679 the wetman's of the world, they go when they pay for a lot of 188 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:11.960 stuff already, right, they've got their names on buildings and money's going directly 189 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:16.240 into Stevens and ye're going nightly into the into the athletic departments. This is 190 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:20.799 not they need more. They need more money from other places. They need 191 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:22.799 the Gonzalez money, they need the Reveria money. They need to even if 192 00:12:22.840 --> 00:12:26.360 it's a ten dollar thing or five dollars, ten dollars whatever they need. 193 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:30.960 What they need more than anything, it's more participation for as you said, 194 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:35.000 if you can do one hundred dollars a year, that goes to this. 195 00:12:35.559 --> 00:12:39.720 But on top of the seat premium, you're paying for your tickets or whatever 196 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:43.799 you're doing. Right, they need additional money. They're asking for more money 197 00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:46.639 in order to stay competitive. Right. In fact, I think I gave 198 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:48.279 you an example. Someone said that we already paying ten thousand dollars for a 199 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:52.720 couple of seats, we don't have much more. Well, okay, thank 200 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:54.879 you, But that's different, right, that's different. Yeah, that money 201 00:12:54.960 --> 00:12:58.559 is not going to where you know, these schools now, we're trying to 202 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:03.200 compete in the nil market, right, Okay. I just texted him he 203 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:07.679 might have to cost after the after the breaking when we talked to mister Green, 204 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:13.200 Okay, it's when you talked about read the call. You said it 205 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:16.480 to me this morning. I said, it's it's sput on, but sput 206 00:13:16.519 --> 00:13:20.000 on to what we believe, right, It doesn't necessarily mean what everybody else 207 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:22.320 believes. Right. They don't have to agree with us, but you and 208 00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:26.559 I know that we're right at least we're the right page. Oh yeah, 209 00:13:26.559 --> 00:13:31.639 of course, Yeah, Jason knows, yes, he needs a good grade. 210 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:37.279 You know, I just it's, uh again, the game has changed, 211 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:39.399 whether we like it or not. All the things that are changing, 212 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:45.840 you know, expansion and conferences and TV deals and all this, and you 213 00:13:45.879 --> 00:13:50.399 know which all really tends to be related to money, Uh, is how 214 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:52.320 things are operated now and it's you know, it's twenty twenty three, and 215 00:13:52.360 --> 00:13:56.320 that's just what it happens to be. And yeah, would we like it 216 00:13:56.320 --> 00:14:00.360 to be you know, nineteen seventy one again, where you know, coaches 217 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:03.399 are making two hundred thousand dollars a year and players are you know, just 218 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:07.080 their athletes and their students and YadA, YadA, YadA. Sure, but 219 00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:11.360 that you know, we've come to this over a long period of time because 220 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:15.720 this is just what our society is, and that's just swait it. Yeah. 221 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:18.240 Hey, let's take our breaknow, sorry, three fourteen, come back 222 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:24.279 talk to and then we'll see if we can get Lazareth on the Okay, 223 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:28.159 okay, let's take a break. Adam Green from Mazie Desert Swarm talking about 224 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:31.360 Tommy Lloyd and his summer recruiting will be right, back. 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Also, 281 00:18:56.160 --> 00:19:00.400 I think we got a phone call right now the black time, Adam 282 00:19:00.480 --> 00:19:03.519 is this shoe? Yeah, yeah, I'm a green How are you? 283 00:19:03.559 --> 00:19:07.799 We're trying to reach you and now we got you. Thank you for columns. 284 00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:10.119 Hey, how you guys doing fine? Thank you? So Jay wakes 285 00:19:10.160 --> 00:19:11.720 me up by this morning says, did you read this column? I said, 286 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:15.000 well, now I did. And how old are you? Adam? 287 00:19:15.119 --> 00:19:19.119 Just real quick? How old am I? I'm a very old feeling thirty 288 00:19:19.200 --> 00:19:22.599 nine. Oh so okay, so you're kind of older, which makes sense. 289 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:26.559 It makes this stop. And I say this with respect because we're all 290 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:30.160 dudes, right, and we're not young, cranky young kids thinking I know 291 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:33.680 everything. Um. And so we liked your column today because it, um, 292 00:19:34.160 --> 00:19:37.039 it's kind of fits right on what we've been talking about. So now 293 00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:41.880 you're a sixty one year old man. Sorry, Adam, but we liked 294 00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:47.559 what you said because it's an agreement with what we've been talking about. Yeah. 295 00:19:47.640 --> 00:19:51.680 Yeah, well, well now it's one thing where it's like, obviously 296 00:19:51.720 --> 00:19:56.079 people are stressed about recruiting, but the team isn't put together yet, right, 297 00:19:56.200 --> 00:19:57.759 coach has won a lot of games. I feel like time you like 298 00:19:57.839 --> 00:20:00.279 call me, there's a little bit of of the doubt at least early on, 299 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:03.359 especially given the success he's already had. Yeah. Well, and that's 300 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:07.160 the things, Well, that's the thing Stephen Aban Harper and saying, you 301 00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:11.119 know, a friend of ours Texas, and I've lost faith in Tommy Lloyd 302 00:20:11.119 --> 00:20:14.039 and his recruiting. I'm like, well, what have you lost faith in 303 00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:17.839 the sixty one games that he's won in two seasons as a new head coach 304 00:20:17.880 --> 00:20:21.039 and what you know, Well, he doesn't have his team yet. Well, 305 00:20:21.480 --> 00:20:25.279 as you said, it's not it's he doesn't have to have his team 306 00:20:25.359 --> 00:20:27.880 yet, right, Yeah, yeah, I mean obviously the season has been 307 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:30.400 his start for like other five months or so, and I'm not going to 308 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:33.880 go into the season with six players or seven players, like we know that. 309 00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:38.200 And I think it's fair to question things until it happened, sure, 310 00:20:38.319 --> 00:20:41.039 because you want to see this team filled out, and just because they were 311 00:20:41.079 --> 00:20:45.599 good last year they before doesn't mean they'll be as good next season. But 312 00:20:45.079 --> 00:20:48.640 I think the guy deserves a chance to put a team together. We know 313 00:20:48.680 --> 00:20:51.599 how many people are still in the transfer portal, and we've seen some of 314 00:20:51.599 --> 00:20:53.759 his recruiting of the high school ranks. It's been pretty good. So you 315 00:20:53.759 --> 00:20:56.359 know, as Tommy Lloyd does he need time to settle in and kind of 316 00:20:56.640 --> 00:21:00.279 get his pipeline going and get his style going. Sure, you know it's 317 00:21:00.279 --> 00:21:04.000 only his second full recruiting class is going to have here for Arizona, But 318 00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:07.119 I think the early return has been promising enough, especially with the high school 319 00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:11.319 recruiting where he should probably get some ben for that do plus even a transfer 320 00:21:11.319 --> 00:21:14.680 port of last season getting Courtney Rainby, et cetera Henderson junior, those are 321 00:21:14.680 --> 00:21:18.079 pretty good additions for the team. Both of them end up starting for them 322 00:21:18.119 --> 00:21:21.200 at the end of the season, so you know, it's it's only the 323 00:21:21.200 --> 00:21:23.119 guy can't build a roster. And of course now because it was Tabella's going 324 00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:26.720 pro, it's going to be basically an entire Timmy Lloyd roster next season, 325 00:21:26.759 --> 00:21:30.920 and that's where you can start to judge him. But now I think he's 326 00:21:30.920 --> 00:21:33.759 done enough on the court to buy that time off the court. I think 327 00:21:34.119 --> 00:21:38.079 you kind of put it in perspective too pretty well. With the guy who 328 00:21:38.440 --> 00:21:44.279 who he followed Miller in his early recruiting classes, they weren't great. He 329 00:21:44.319 --> 00:21:48.559 fell into the USC kids leaving because of because of their coach, and I 330 00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:52.839 just lost the name right now, Lloyd Floyd. Sorry it's employd but you 331 00:21:52.839 --> 00:21:56.279 know that was kind of by accident, if you will. And then a 332 00:21:56.400 --> 00:21:59.720 kind of second year didn't go so well. There, you didn't go so 333 00:21:59.759 --> 00:22:03.079 well, and then all of a sudden it took off. Yeah. Yeah, 334 00:22:03.079 --> 00:22:06.519 and that's not not Sean Millery. And obviously by the time he was 335 00:22:06.559 --> 00:22:08.160 no longer Arison as coach, people looked at him as a great recruiter and 336 00:22:08.200 --> 00:22:11.279 he brought a lot of top end talent to Arizona and he got there, 337 00:22:11.279 --> 00:22:14.440 he kind of got his legs under him. I know. The questions were 338 00:22:14.880 --> 00:22:18.000 being the East Coast guy, could he recruit players out west? And the 339 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:21.000 answer was yes, he did. He did very well there. It didn't 340 00:22:21.079 --> 00:22:23.319 lead to final fours or anything, but the recruiting wasn't a problem. But 341 00:22:23.400 --> 00:22:26.160 yeah, people kind of forget the early going. And yes, it helps 342 00:22:26.319 --> 00:22:30.079 you make an a lead eight in your second season to kind of buy a 343 00:22:30.119 --> 00:22:33.079 little bit of time. But yeah, if you look at the recruiting rankings 344 00:22:33.079 --> 00:22:34.599 and the players he was bringing in. Even one of the question that Josiah 345 00:22:34.599 --> 00:22:38.119 Turner, Nick Johnson like Turner was a really highly rated player, but it 346 00:22:38.200 --> 00:22:41.480 didn't work out. So, you know, Tommy Lloyden. Also, it 347 00:22:41.599 --> 00:22:45.400 was just a different era and comes to recruiting, like there is a transfer 348 00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:48.279 portal now, which is I could be bigger than it is than recruiting high 349 00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:52.359 school players. But it's easy to forget, you know, the early Sean 350 00:22:52.400 --> 00:22:56.440 Miller days, how his recruiting wasn't great to start. So you know, 351 00:22:56.519 --> 00:22:59.599 it's not like Tony just done a bad job recruiting and building these rosters and 352 00:22:59.680 --> 00:23:03.599 filling holes. Could things go south for them, absolutely, there's you know, 353 00:23:03.720 --> 00:23:07.720 until things go really well, things can go poorly. I just don't 354 00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:10.640 see the reason to believe that's the way it's going to go right. And 355 00:23:10.839 --> 00:23:14.359 and I again, you know, you know, people say, well, 356 00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:15.519 you know the proof is in the pudding. Well, the pudding has been 357 00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:19.240 pretty damn good for two years. And I guess I don't understand why people 358 00:23:19.279 --> 00:23:23.640 are just already writing him off. But you know, I think the thing 359 00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:27.440 that people need to get used to the fact that is the fact that recruiting 360 00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:32.599 classes or teams aren't coming together until mid to late summer anymore. And that's 361 00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:34.400 just the way it's going to be. This team that he had last year 362 00:23:34.759 --> 00:23:37.519 that won a whole bunch of games that's when that team came together, right 363 00:23:37.559 --> 00:23:41.799 he got I mean he got Henry Vassar like in July, or oh no, 364 00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:47.079 he got Colin Boswell reclassified in July. I mean he was still putting 365 00:23:47.119 --> 00:23:51.799 his team together. Is that, you know? I know where we don't 366 00:23:51.960 --> 00:23:53.519 know. There's no way to predict the future. But is that just the 367 00:23:53.640 --> 00:23:57.400 way it's going to be from now on? The teams will come together in 368 00:23:57.480 --> 00:24:03.559 the summer as opposed to the s when they're recruiting classes got signed. I 369 00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:04.680 don't know if it's the way it's going to be, but I think it's 370 00:24:04.680 --> 00:24:08.720 probably the way. People have to understand that the recruiting isn't done yet, 371 00:24:08.839 --> 00:24:12.400 right, Like, rosters aren't going to be finished until later in the summer, 372 00:24:12.519 --> 00:24:15.519 And you know that might be different each year, and certain players might 373 00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:18.519 commit earlier. You have a bigger high school recruiting class that's already going to 374 00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:22.680 be gone to camp, has already signed. Maybe you hit the portal early 375 00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:26.160 and get some players that way. But like the time, the window with 376 00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:29.039 which to build a roster is certainly larger than it ever was, so, 377 00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:33.079 especially with the transfer portal, and especially with players who enter their names in 378 00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:34.720 the NBA trap and then end up pulling out and going back to school. 379 00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:38.319 There's going to be a reason to wait. Patience is a virtue and it's 380 00:24:38.359 --> 00:24:41.400 tough. I get it for fans and I get it for everybody. You 381 00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:42.559 want to see a roster get built. You want to see a really good 382 00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:47.119 roster get built. But when you're waiting on the portal and you're waiting on 383 00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:51.480 some of the maybe international kids who are their seasons have to finish up before 384 00:24:51.480 --> 00:24:55.200 they can announce or commit to Arizona or anything like that, just you're going 385 00:24:55.279 --> 00:24:56.960 to have to wait a little bit. And you know what's the Tom Petty's 386 00:24:56.960 --> 00:25:00.960 like, waiting is the hardest part it is. It doesn't mean that it 387 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:03.279 just because the roster takes a little more time to get built, it's going 388 00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:04.519 to be a bad one. Your point, like, that's what it was 389 00:25:04.640 --> 00:25:08.000 last season. It took a while and that has that was with two waiting 390 00:25:08.039 --> 00:25:11.799 for guys like Dale and Terry Christian Koloko to stay in the draft and then 391 00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:14.960 you knew you get your roster spots. So you know, I wouldn't anticipate 392 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:18.000 anything like this every year, but certainly with the international recruiting, with the 393 00:25:18.079 --> 00:25:22.319 transfer portal Waiting isn't necessarily the worst thing in the world. You're quoting Tom 394 00:25:22.400 --> 00:25:27.759 Petty, I'll quote the ketchup bottle anticipation, Baby anticipation. Everybody can't wait. 395 00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:33.039 I'm curious, do you have access to your your your work for as 396 00:25:33.200 --> 00:25:37.880 Desert swarm dot com obviously, do you have access to the crazies that kind 397 00:25:37.880 --> 00:25:41.480 of comment on that line as well? I mean we see it on the 398 00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:44.599 comments, yeah, and it happens obviously. I mean the way I've always 399 00:25:44.599 --> 00:25:47.440 seen commenters like, as long as they're reading and comment they're commenting, that 400 00:25:47.480 --> 00:25:48.960 means they cared. So you know, from a writer's perspective, I don't 401 00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:52.880 care if they're angry or they think I'm the smartest person in the world. 402 00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:55.640 Of course, I'm on Twitter and see a lot of that stuff too, 403 00:25:55.839 --> 00:25:56.960 so I'm you know, it's Arizona fans. I know a lot of them 404 00:25:57.000 --> 00:26:00.960 too, so you know, I hear it, you see it all over 405 00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:03.039 and it's hard to be like, I mean, they're not necessarily wrong, 406 00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:07.319 but it's like just that patience that maybe people didn't need to have five, 407 00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:10.440 six, seven, ten years ago when it came to recruiting. They need 408 00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:12.119 to have right now, because when you take that step back and you look 409 00:26:12.160 --> 00:26:15.599 at the bigger picture in terms of you know, like you were saying, 410 00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:18.279 like, in terms of building this roster, it might take till May, 411 00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:21.799 might take till June to really start to fill out. Yeah, that's just 412 00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:22.920 how it is right now. And it's just tough to kind of get into 413 00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:26.799 that mindset, especially when you see all the players getting transferred to other schools 414 00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:30.440 and I like, af he's laying it like eight or nine transfers Arkansas and 415 00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:33.559 on every transfer it seems like, you know, that does happen for some 416 00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:36.279 programs, but it doesn't mean it's the only way to get the job done. 417 00:26:36.279 --> 00:26:37.720 And I know Timelod was quote on the Arizon on a daily start talking 418 00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:40.839 about he things are in a good place and things will be fine, and 419 00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:42.240 yeah, I mean, I don't expect him to say otherwise. I don't 420 00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:45.480 expect him come and say, yeah, we're in trouble. It's not going 421 00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:48.440 to work out this season. But I also think he knows a little bit 422 00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:52.799 more in terms of what the rosters can look like by time the season starts 423 00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:55.759 compared to what it is right now than most of us do. And one 424 00:26:55.799 --> 00:26:57.920 of the things that I saw a couple of comments on was people feel like 425 00:26:59.240 --> 00:27:03.359 they have a right to no right, you have a right to know who's 426 00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:07.680 Tommy Lloyd going after? You need like like you need our approval to go 427 00:27:07.880 --> 00:27:11.319 get that guy or something like that. I don't even know what it is. 428 00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:14.960 And it's like worse than ever that, you know, because stuff isn't 429 00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:18.400 out on social media about this guy's being recruited by Arizona or that guy, 430 00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:22.960 or you know, Arizona is the finalist for this guy that guy that that 431 00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:26.720 you know, we're being held information being held from fans that shouldn't be. 432 00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:32.519 That part of it drives me crazy as well. Yeah, it's the world 433 00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:34.400 that we live in terms of like the oversharing and everything on social media. 434 00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:37.480 And someone puts out their list of like I've turned my list down to these 435 00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:41.160 seventeen teams that I'm interested in me or something like that, and it's kind 436 00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:45.200 of like the Nemahard kid who end up going to gonzagas no one knew. 437 00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:48.039 I was like, Okay, he's just out there being recruited and he commits 438 00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:49.640 to Gonzaga. Our Arizona fans as episode it's like, oh, well, 439 00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:52.559 he just okay, he chose and Zaga, where as opposed to he was 440 00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:56.680 like, oh he's supposed to go to Arizona or Arizona's after this guy, 441 00:27:56.759 --> 00:27:57.920 they really want him. And yeah, there's probably a lot of players at 442 00:27:57.920 --> 00:28:03.279 Arizona wants and doesn't get and fans never hear about it. They don't know 443 00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:04.720 about it, so they're not you know, it doesn't bother them. It's 444 00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:08.839 with so many players out there in the portal, you have to imagine Arizona 445 00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:12.200 is not just saying we're seeing these five guys and if we don't get them 446 00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:15.559 all, well, I imagine Tommy Lloyd's thinking, you know, he's got 447 00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:18.759 calls in, They got notes or texts out to all these players say hey, 448 00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:22.440 if you're interested, if you don't stay in the draft, we'd like 449 00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:26.039 to bring you to Tucson, and then when things can happen, when that 450 00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:29.279 can progress and move forward, they'll act on it. But yeah, I 451 00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:30.480 mean, fans want to know everything, and in today's day and age, 452 00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:33.359 fans know far more than they ever did, which is great, but it 453 00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:37.799 also leads to two or can lead to some of that extra stress and angst 454 00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:40.799 because it's like, why don't we know this? And just because you don't 455 00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:42.640 hear if something doesn't mean it's not happening. You know, absence of that 456 00:28:42.759 --> 00:28:48.240 information doesn't mean an absence of truth. So I would imagine, like, 457 00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:52.079 unless you have zero faith in the staff and think that they have no idea 458 00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:55.400 what they're doing, you know, the quiet approach may be the best one 459 00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:56.400 for them, and I would let them go ahead with it now. A 460 00:28:56.519 --> 00:29:00.480 year from now, two years from now, if things aren't going well recruiting, 461 00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:03.480 maybe you start to wonder. But I think right now it's fair to 462 00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:06.440 say, you know what, they have an idea of what they're doing. 463 00:29:06.519 --> 00:29:08.319 Maybe Plan A, Plan B doesn't work out, but a plan is in 464 00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:11.480 place. They're gonna fill out a roster and they'll probably have some pretty good 465 00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:15.160 players on it. No, I think exactly right. You know, back 466 00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:18.920 in the day, when you were about twenty, that stuff was talked in 467 00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:22.880 bars, this at midnight. You know, people at the bar school saying, 468 00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:25.000 well, you know that time we though it guy, you know whatever, 469 00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:29.119 But now it's it's brought forward because of easy deserts worm or or all 470 00:29:29.160 --> 00:29:30.480 sports tu son or the two sound up time. You know what I'm saying, 471 00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:34.039 it's much more talked about because you're right, fans no more now because 472 00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:37.759 of the Internet. Yeah, and you want fans to be passionate, you 473 00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:41.279 want them to be interested. You know, apathy is the worst thing that 474 00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:44.279 could happen for a program and for a team, So you want them to 475 00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:47.640 be into it and following their every move. But you know, I don't 476 00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:49.599 know how many players like Henry Vasa, how many people knew he was even 477 00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:53.680 on Arizona radar last year? Right? Or Courtney Raymi or Sitah Kenderson Junior 478 00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:56.920 or some of the guys they brought in, you know, Philipthorovician, it's 479 00:29:57.119 --> 00:30:00.920 some of these guys. It's also like, oh they commit to Arizona. 480 00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:03.720 Okay, who is this guy? So it is different with the portal because 481 00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:07.400 there's so many stars from different programs. You're like, oh, that guy 482 00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:10.240 would probably be good at Arizona. And yeah, like any good player I 483 00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:12.759 think would be good at Arizona. But you know, to not be in 484 00:30:12.839 --> 00:30:15.440 on all of them, or to not have a chance at all of them, 485 00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:17.359 maybe Arizona check it in. They're like Nope, I want to go 486 00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:19.440 this place, or nope, I got an n I'll offer deal somewhere else. 487 00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:22.640 That's where I'm going. And Aarona Okay, thanks, good luck to 488 00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:25.279 you. But there are players out there that they're going to get that. 489 00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:26.640 I'm sure they've made contact with it, that they're going to bring it to 490 00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:30.400 Son And if you're an Arizon thing, you just hope that they end up 491 00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:33.359 being good players who form a great team. The same thing about this Jay, 492 00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:37.480 And I said this before, Adam that one one of the worst things 493 00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:41.200 that happened to the Arizona basketball program is it won a title in ninety seven. 494 00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:45.480 Now everyone thinks they deserve another one anytime soon. Right now, it's 495 00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.200 gored have been twenty six years. That's one thing. And the second thing 496 00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:52.920 is he's had fantastic success. Now they've got the taste, right even though 497 00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:56.599 the recent people we want more, right, we want more? And how 498 00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:00.799 can we're not giving us more? Yeah, And I think Arizona fans should 499 00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:04.359 like Obviously, Arizona is not the blue blood that say a Duke is or 500 00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:07.039 a Kentucky has been, or I guess I don't know if you put ukin 501 00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:11.119 in that category. Night right now, that pains me because I've never thought 502 00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:14.079 that highly of them, And yet look at all their championships. But Arizona's 503 00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:18.720 a really good program, and I think fans should expect success, but also 504 00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:19.920 what a success look like. And that is one thing I put in the 505 00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:22.880 column as he desert someways that it feels like Tommy Lloyd is, you know, 506 00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:26.119 kind of shackleder, has a cloud of all the failures that preceded him 507 00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:29.799 that he's wearing that. In terms of Arizona fans, like, they want 508 00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:33.039 success and they want it now. And yeah, he's won sixty one games 509 00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:37.039 the first couple of seasons, a couple of PAC twelve tournament championships. Obviously 510 00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:40.960 this past season ended way too soon in the NCAA tournament, Like that's that's 511 00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:45.279 on Tommy Lloyd. But Arizona not making a final four in twenty something years, 512 00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:47.640 that is not on Tommy Lloyd. You know, having not won a 513 00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:49.759 national title in twenty six years, that is not on Tommy Lloyd. So 514 00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:53.640 he has to wear that in terms of he's the next best chance to end 515 00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:59.079 the streaks, but he's not the reason for the streak, right, So 516 00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:02.559 what's what's your gut feeling on a Zulus. Has he gone or do you 517 00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:06.799 think there's a chance or how much of a percent chance do you think there 518 00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:08.960 is that he might come back. JAD used to get off the lids. 519 00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:14.000 That's what he's asking, No, because we have this great, this great 520 00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:17.200 clip of him saying they kicked our asses that we use all the time, 521 00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:23.920 But we want what's your gut feeling on him. My gut feeling is that 522 00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:28.400 he's probably gone. Um. I don't think he's an NBA pick. I 523 00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:30.759 don't think he's you know, a first round pick or a second round pick. 524 00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:32.519 But I think he'll get hivited to a camp or just go back home 525 00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:36.960 and play overseas. It's one of those situations where I don't know how much 526 00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:39.920 you would benefit from coming back for another season. People think the things he 527 00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:43.160 needs to work on, It's like, well, what if he never gets 528 00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:45.519 better at those? Or what if he comes back to school He's like, 529 00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:46.720 well, people needed me to shoot three, so I'm just gonna check him 530 00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:50.279 a bunch of three pointers. Like that's not what Arizona wants either, So 531 00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:53.200 I'm guessing it's I have no information and side information from my gut feelings having 532 00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:58.039 watched him played yet a great season for Arizona. The others of him improving 533 00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:00.119 on that end, being even better, I would think are too slim to 534 00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:04.680 warrant coming back, especially since he will have options to play professionally. If 535 00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:07.359 that's not the NBA getting back to the dark side of the airs. On 536 00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:12.359 a fan base, do you think that that the fans ran kurk Crease out 537 00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:15.920 of town? So I would hope not k kirk Crease's sake. I would 538 00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:20.519 hope that he's not like leaving because of fans. I'm guessing too with that 539 00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:23.039 one. Kylin bosw is probably more the reason Kirk Cresa left than anything else. 540 00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:27.039 Anything the fans did. You know, Cresa seemed to enjoy from what 541 00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:30.480 I could tell, the haters and the and the fans all at the same 542 00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:32.480 time. But you look at his role, Kylin Boswell should be ready to 543 00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:36.599 take over as a starting point guard next season, a more ball dominant type 544 00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:39.240 position than he had, and I think that's probably better for Arizona. So, 545 00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:44.880 you know, we're fans high on Kirk Crias, Absolutely not, especially 546 00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:47.599 after the way the tournaments went for him. But I can't imagine that's why 547 00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:51.960 he left. You know, it's a better opportunity, maybe for more playing 548 00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:55.519 time or more nil or just something. I think, given him what he's 549 00:33:55.519 --> 00:33:59.519 going to be pushed by next season without he might guess, you know, 550 00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:01.920 but if he because of the fans, that's like, that's that's raw. 551 00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:06.079 Yeah, no question, Adam Green, thank you very much. I'm gonna 552 00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:09.880 go listen to Carly Simon sing anticipation and you go listen to Tom Patty. 553 00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:14.960 Thank you, hey, Adam, thanks the whole bunch, appreciate it. 554 00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:21.719 I think everything he said totally agrees with what we said. Sounds so reasonable. 555 00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:25.239 I know, I lose my mind over here and I'm yelling and I'm 556 00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:29.920 cussing at the fans and stuff like that. He said all the same things, 557 00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:32.599 but he said him in just a reasonable, calm, orderly way. 558 00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:36.000 Yeah. No, we've been saying the same thing, just not in a 559 00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:39.239 calm, orderly Go read that column on Easy Desert Swarm dot Com. Is 560 00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:44.960 just a really good piece and uh just kind of a very reasonable piece and 561 00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:45.960 everything that's going on. Let's go and take our break. We'll be back. 562 00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:49.320 We'll take your calls five two zero, four, one, six, 563 00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:52.800 seven to four forty. If you're an Arizona Man's basketball fan, you know 564 00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:55.559 it's been successful for nearly forty years now take a look back at the lud 565 00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:59.400 Olson era in my new book, Lessons from Loot. 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Hey, there, I on 607 00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:16.519 the ball on Tucson sports station Fox Sports fourteen fifty. They welcome back to 608 00:38:16.559 --> 00:38:20.159 I'm About here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve. He's Jay. 609 00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:25.360 Got a guy Jason on the base here. Now we have Adam lazarres from 610 00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:30.000 good Juju. How are you Adam? Hey, guys can talk to you 611 00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:34.400 again. Good dude. We've been talking to NIL a lot lately, obviously 612 00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:37.639 from your discussion a while back. You want to have you on again to 613 00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:40.440 kind of clarify some things. I just read something maybe a half hour ago 614 00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:45.440 about Kentucky trying to get the Dickinson kid here but there, but they don't 615 00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:49.559 have enough NIL, and that's probably part of the problem. And I'm saying, 616 00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:53.000 if Kentucky has an issue, imagine Arizona's issue if people don't join in. 617 00:38:54.199 --> 00:38:59.559 So you know everybody has the same issue. It seems like it. 618 00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:04.679 And you know NIL is ever changing and constantly expanding, and you know rules 619 00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:08.960 are changing and whatnot. So I don't have any specific information on the Kentucky 620 00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:13.119 player or that at all. I first I've heard of it is when you're 621 00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:19.000 saying it, but absolutely it is a we're building the plane as we fly 622 00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:21.599 it, as we like to joke around sometimes, so we're figuring it out 623 00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:25.199 as we go and making sure we get here to every possible rule we can, 624 00:39:25.639 --> 00:39:30.480 but I can't speak on anything with them other than to say I know 625 00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:34.599 that they're experiencing challenges because we are fat as well. Okay, So for 626 00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:39.760 our last conversation when you're on the show, I think I recall you saying 627 00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:46.320 that that Arizona Assist is not a collective, but it's something else. Okay, 628 00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:52.360 what's a collective versus what Arizona Assist is. So, in our definition, 629 00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:59.679 a collective would be a group of people or a collection of either boosters 630 00:39:59.880 --> 00:40:05.559 or alumni, or people who are putting money into a fund or a pot 631 00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:10.400 or a bucket, so to speak, to be used four players. However 632 00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:15.400 that is being used to incentivized players, you know, to stay, or 633 00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:17.440 however they're using nil. We do not do that. We don't have a 634 00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:22.480 fil of money. There are no minimum requirements, there's no guarantees to the 635 00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:28.800 players. There's no expectation that they will receive X or Y at all. 636 00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:32.920 The more that we sell from a merchandise standpoint, the more memberships we generate, 637 00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:37.199 the more corporate and business sponsorships we can receive, the more money goes 638 00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:42.760 into our platform, and we pay all our builds, and we distribute that 639 00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:46.400 money back to the players, and there's no animals. Okay, how do 640 00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:51.679 you distribute that to the players? They they do appearances and things like that. 641 00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:54.440 Is that what happens? That is one way that they can do it. 642 00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:59.000 They fully negotiate those themselves. We're not player representatives at all, but 643 00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:02.320 we are certainly a and shake or a connection to a business or an entity 644 00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:08.360 that might want that player to do something for them and the player themselves. 645 00:41:08.440 --> 00:41:13.679 We will certainly hand them or introduce them to all of those relationships, but 646 00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:17.280 we don't negotiate or broke or anything beyond that. Okay, what would be 647 00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:21.880 and I spent some time with you, what would be the easiest and best 648 00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:25.840 way from h for a guy like me, a guy like Jay who you 649 00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:30.880 know, minimal means or whatever. But we want to help a great question. 650 00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:38.760 We've designed or Zona assist dot com to be a membership based platform that 651 00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:45.280 allows you to to become a member at as little as one hundred dollars a 652 00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:50.239 year that gets to the whole year. You receive some cool perks for that. 653 00:41:50.679 --> 00:41:54.840 At that level, you have access to our discounts across our store, 654 00:41:55.360 --> 00:41:59.639 You have advanced notice of all kinds of cool events that we have. We 655 00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:04.639 draw names from contests and fun things and giveaways from that membership list, and 656 00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:08.719 then there's other perks. There's a thousand dollars level for those that maybe want 657 00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:12.400 to get a little bit more benefit out of it, but also have the 658 00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:15.079 means to afford it, and then we go it goes up from there. 659 00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:19.960 There's a ten ten thousand dollars level, and there's also a corporate at sponsorship 660 00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:23.679 level that allows businesses, brands, local organizations to take advantage of it, 661 00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:28.719 support the players, support the program, and still get some cool phurt. 662 00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:31.840 Okay, now very slowly, okay, because I'm still kind of not getting 663 00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:37.320 this. How does the money that comes to Arizona Assist get into the hands 664 00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:46.360 of players of athletes? What's a typical way. So we are tracking every 665 00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:51.880 dollars that is brought through Arizon Assist platform in the forms of the things I 666 00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:55.840 just mentioned, membership, memorable merchandise, event tickets, things like that. 667 00:42:57.480 --> 00:43:00.599 Those dollars come in. We pay our bills, because we are not a 668 00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:02.199 five O, one C three, We pay all of our bills. We 669 00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:07.079 pay for the shirts themselves, and the you know, the golf course when 670 00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:09.599 we have a golf tournament, all the things we need to pay, marketing, 671 00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:15.559 mainance management, just like any business would. And then the eighty percent 672 00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:20.639 of that revenue goes back to the student nationals on average. And that's what 673 00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:24.159 I'm saying. How how did they get their hands on it? How do 674 00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:29.320 they how do they physically receive those funds? Well? Like, like how 675 00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:32.360 you know, how do you decide who gets some of that eighty percent of 676 00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:37.360 the funds? You know, let's say thousand dollars would have divided equally amongst 677 00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:42.320 the players. The only players that received more on a certain month than others 678 00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:46.760 would need if their merchant site, their specific T shirt or hats, or 679 00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:52.239 they had an appearance or something that the other players didn't have. For example, 680 00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:55.960 if Umar Balo sells more shirts than a month than Pelo Larsen's, Umar's 681 00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:00.440 distribution that month would be more. Oh I get okay. So basically, 682 00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:05.760 whatever above and beyond your expenses, that money just goes out to the goes 683 00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:08.519 out to the players on the basketball team. Exactly right. Oh okay, 684 00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:13.360 See I thought they had to do something for it other than being on the 685 00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:16.199 basketball team. No, there's no requirement for them to do anything, um, 686 00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:21.559 other than give us those rights to use their name, image and likeness. 687 00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:25.000 And if there's anything above and beyond a specific event or a player engagement 688 00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:30.880 or a talk or whatever they want to do that is negotiated outside of Arizona. 689 00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:35.320 Okay, So that's a great question. Especially the percentage. Is that 690 00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:38.519 an estimate or probably an exact twenty percent? Because I know one of the 691 00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:44.559 fans put posted something on the on the internet for to get fans interested and 692 00:44:44.840 --> 00:44:47.159 donating. Then one of the things was how do we know where the money 693 00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:52.119 goes? One? And how much is there was on assists getting from this? 694 00:44:53.239 --> 00:44:58.960 Yeah, they're well that there is. The average amount would be about 695 00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:01.719 eighty per men. Definitely, you know it to be seventy seven percent or 696 00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:06.400 the eighty two percent. I don't know exactly, but um, the only 697 00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:09.400 way to know that that's happening is the trust us that has happened. I 698 00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:17.119 don't know how else. Definitely, collect every single uh dollar that we that 699 00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:22.960 we collect is tracked and distributed it um. And we are a business, 700 00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:25.599 I mean, so we are definitely have built to pay. Once those builds 701 00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:29.519 are paid, then the balance of that dollars goes to those student athletes. 702 00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:31.400 No, this is great information because I'm gonna try to maybe even put this 703 00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:37.000 podcast on that for an answer. I'm assuming that on Arizona sist dot com 704 00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:40.880 you have answers like this, you know FAQs or something. Absolutely, we 705 00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:45.719 have facs there. We're very transparent about our model. The fact that it's 706 00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:49.480 not a collective is what stands out about our model. We are doing this 707 00:45:49.559 --> 00:45:52.679 on the true spirit of nil, which stands from named image like that. 708 00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:58.280 That is what we are focused on is utilizing that so the players can monetize 709 00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:04.480 that um and all the information, all those answers are available on arizonatips dot 710 00:46:04.519 --> 00:46:07.920 com and if anything else, I'm willing to get on any phone call and 711 00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:10.440 talk to any group to explain as much as I can. Okay, so 712 00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:14.800 now let me let me close close the whole thing on this. So a 713 00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:16.880 collective then in that case, is like you said, a group of boosters 714 00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:21.320 or whatever, they group together, they pull all this money, and then 715 00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:27.000 athletes get that money by doing things right, by going to an appearance, 716 00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:29.960 going to work for Boys and Girls club or whatever. Is that how that 717 00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:34.599 money gets distributed to his student athletes or is it just handed to them and 718 00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:36.519 say, Okay, you're really good players, so we're gonna give you three 719 00:46:36.599 --> 00:46:42.000 hundred thousand dollars. I cannot speak for any of the other collectives or any 720 00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:45.440 of the other groups, but my understanding of those with the performers, there's 721 00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:49.920 no situation that I'm aware of where players are getting a lump sum of money 722 00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:52.159 for doing nothing at all. Okay, but again that is not our model 723 00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:55.440 and not you know, I don't really know enough about it to speak to 724 00:46:55.480 --> 00:46:59.079 any other model beside art. It was like the kids used to go, 725 00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:06.719 there's some job to one of the law and the lawn was automatic. He's 726 00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:08.639 not going to say anything to that. All right, the light bulb is 727 00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:14.119 on. I get it now. Yes, our model, our model was 728 00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:19.440 designed to be a conduit between the average fan and the program and allow the 729 00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:23.559 NIL world to be democratized a little bit. So it wasn't just a way 730 00:47:23.639 --> 00:47:30.800 for sort of quote rich boosters or the same people to give money. It's 731 00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:34.960 a way for everyone who loves the Arizona sports to give money and to be 732 00:47:35.079 --> 00:47:38.119 part of the NIL process and also get some cool perks and the benefits in 733 00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:40.800 the process. That's why our models different, right, And the thing we 734 00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:46.719 haven't said, is that Arizona's assist is specifically just for men's basketball. Yes, 735 00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:52.559 correct, Arizona sists currently is just for men's basketball, and we're focused 736 00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:55.039 on just making the men's basketball program as good as we can and building the 737 00:47:55.079 --> 00:47:59.559 foundation for the future of that program. Right now. We tell people, 738 00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:04.079 if you want to be part of this and stop complaining about the lack of 739 00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:07.719 funds or whatever, they can do this to help do their part and help 740 00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:12.000 right. Absolutely, the reality is if we don't adjust, we get left 741 00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:15.000 in the dust. And that is the truth. And so here's a perfect 742 00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:19.360 way to you still get cool swag, you get cool merch that no one 743 00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:22.480 else has. You have a way to interact and engage with the players in 744 00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:27.800 unique ways. And every dollar you to spend, you know that that's the 745 00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:30.760 bulk of that, it's directly supporting these players. So yeah, it's important. 746 00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:34.800 Okay, Hey, great clarification, Adam, I get it now, 747 00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:37.440 Thank you, awesome, No problem. Yes, go to Arizona this dot 748 00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:40.599 com and you can always email me our emails right at the bottom. They're 749 00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:44.280 happy to talk to anyone who can want to learn more. Thanks a bunch, 750 00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:46.960 Adam, appreciate I get it. Yeah, I mean, just you 751 00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:50.679 give to this thing and the money goes to the players. You know, 752 00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:54.119 perc of everything that goes in there goes to the players. Whereas the collective, 753 00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:57.719 like you said, you know, you you colect all this money. 754 00:48:57.719 --> 00:48:59.599 You say, Okay, come to the Boys and Growth Club and we'll give 755 00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:01.960 you X or sign a contract to endorse this and you get X. Yeah, 756 00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:05.320 right right right, No, And I saw they have if you go 757 00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:09.079 to the site, they have cool swag from follow to Larson uh to the 758 00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:13.039 Whiteman kid. You know they have. It's very cool, very cool. 759 00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:15.239 All right, I get it now. It makes so much more sense to 760 00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:17.559 me now, and I'm glad we did that. Okay, So if you're 761 00:49:17.599 --> 00:49:21.840 interested. In fact, a couple of people texted me a couple of quick 762 00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:23.719 questions. So just if you have any more questions, just go to Arizonassist 763 00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:28.840 dot com. Yeah, and they'll they'll do or give them an email or 764 00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:31.320 go back to the podcast. You'll get like a step by step by explanation 765 00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:34.679 of what all this is. We'll get that post and we'll post tonight. 766 00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:37.079 End up get up on our social media. Yeah, okay, but I'm 767 00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:42.199 glad, I'm really glad because I just kept having confusion and I knew that. 768 00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:45.000 I heard him say, we're not a collective, and but now he 769 00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:47.480 explains, you know what they are. So you know, the money just 770 00:49:47.559 --> 00:49:51.039 go get to divvy up to those players. So there's you know, a 771 00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:54.079 source of income for those guys. And then they get that income because they've 772 00:49:54.480 --> 00:49:59.079 they've signed over, you know, rights to the name, image and likeness, 773 00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:04.880 and consequently for that they get X. And so the more the more 774 00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:07.880 Arizona fans contribute, the more they get, and the more the better Arizona 775 00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:12.960 can recruit. Right, Okay, not just about Arizona anymore. It's about 776 00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:16.559 money and yeah, everywhere, man, Yeah, it's everywhere. I feel 777 00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:20.239 like I want to go back in time and become a college. We only 778 00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:22.360 we only have one fifty five. And I know I'm talking to a biased 779 00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:27.360 dude. I'm saying, you're biased so on the West coast, and I'm 780 00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:32.440 saying from let's say, from Colorado, New Mexico, Montana, West West. 781 00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:37.920 It has to be in the top five colleges in Arizona. Yeah, 782 00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:42.280 and we could. I'll say, Oregon, you got USC, Oregon, 783 00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:46.400 Washington. I think I think in terms of basketball programs. We're talking athletic 784 00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:50.840 departments, departments. Yeah, you know, top five, top five six 785 00:50:51.039 --> 00:50:53.840 yeah, um, you know, usc Us, La, Oregon, and 786 00:50:53.960 --> 00:50:58.320 then every then everybody else in Washington and then everybody else is like in a 787 00:50:58.440 --> 00:51:04.360 tie for fifth. Not everybody, because I think Washington and maybe Colorado were 788 00:51:04.719 --> 00:51:07.519 a step below. Why do you state now you yeah, I mean so, 789 00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:10.159 I think everybody's kind of in a in a tie for you know, 790 00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:14.400 fourth or fifth place. But it's not bad to be San Diego State. 791 00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:16.719 Now, it's not bad to be some of the other ones that we don't 792 00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:22.199 talk about Gonzaga, Gonzaga in basketball, health, football. Boise State is 793 00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:27.119 in that twelve thirteen because you know, I think Boise State is basically Washington 794 00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:30.519 State, well Washington that area Washington. I mean, I just think that 795 00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:35.519 there's sort of like a notch below down there, like let's say like cal 796 00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:39.519 Washington State, maybe Colorado right now, Um, you know, even a 797 00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:44.639 sus Is. I think it is trailing behind Arizona in terms because because Arizone's 798 00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:47.039 got a basketball program to standoff, which you know, none of the other 799 00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:52.800 schools have that, and their football programs are kind of like arizonas so um, 800 00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:54.440 maybe you know, UT's got a really good football program, but their 801 00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:57.960 basketball program isn't great. Right now, Hey, we got to get out 802 00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:00.400 of here, and so do you all right, we'll be back. I'll 803 00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:01.920 be Steve's got to hit the road. It'll be Jason and I and we'll 804 00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:07.280 have Greg Hanson coming on at four about four twenty, so I'll stick around 805 00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:07.800 for all that breaking news at the top of the hour.