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Hey, everybody, it's Tuesday,
December nineteenth, twenty twenty three. It

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is way too late to get the
Christmas gifts now. It's you should you

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should have thought about it. Go
go make a gift or give the gift

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of the giant BombCast like we're giving
you today, Episode eight hundred and nineteen,

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powered by NZXT. I am your
host, Janetcho. I've had way

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too much caffeine for ten o'clock am
today, but it's all right. We're

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gonna keep sipping. We got a
glass loaded up. There's for you audio

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listeners. It's loaded with the green
juice. Joining me as always co captain

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of the ship Chuff Crub, I'm
the opposite. I had blood removed for

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my body this morning, and then
I rewarded my cell intentionally. Yeah,

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I went to I had my labs
done, so I didn't eat for like

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the eighteen hours. I rewarded myself
with a breakfast Buffalo Chicken pizza. It

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was a personal size. There we
go, There we go. That was

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a good reward. So I'm doing
good over here. Master of Blood and

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all things blood related, Dan Reichert, that's me, Hello, Yes,

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how are the blood arts doing today? Dan, Uh, my knees are

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no longer bleeding my nor are my
elbows from this weekend. So yeah,

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good all around. Then it sounds
well, I mean the finger's fucked up,

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but like there's the blood is done. So yeah, the blood is

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done, just like the blood is
never done. Also for the for our

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other blood master, our our our
blood ambassador, Jeff Backler, very very

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pro blood. I'm a pro blood
guy. And speaking of NZXT, I

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just heard today that whoever won the
machine, it's on the way and I

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just want to thank again n ZXY
for giving away a ringing computer game of

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the Year live, which is that
was cool? Event? Yes, it's

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a taxable moment. Yes we're using
the euphemism moment, not an event,

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got it. It's softened the blow
a little bit. Uh No, Yeah,

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I'm doing well. Blood's blood's doing
well, and I'm excited to hear

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about your blood report, Jeff Grubb. I'll bring it all here, you

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guys. You will. You'll be
the first to know. Okay, give

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the lipids, the triglytrides, all
that and the whole good lipids, the

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bad lipids, the medium lipids,
all the lipids. Look at you getting

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work done, grug. I remember
earlier this year you saying I haven't done

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ship. Look at you ending you're
strong. That's right. Months ago a

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co Ago, you asking me like, do you see a doctor? Uh

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huh? Now it was in a
bad situation because I was asking Dan,

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right, yeah, yeah, you
should be. You should have a doctor.

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Arguably the most uh like grown seeming
out of all of us, Jeff

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Grubb asking for medical advice. Jesus
Christ, like, oh, something's wrong.

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Why do that when I could procrastinate
instead? That exactly always my motto.

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Just take a take a soak in
some apps and salts. Huh.

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We should go to it. We
should go to a sauna together, not

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like a I mean, if you
want, but whatever y'all want to do,

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or oh a hot springs, let's
do that. It's good as hell.

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Yeah, okay, I'm a question. Hey, whatever happened with those

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bath salts that the Florida was doing, all those drug bath salt? They

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ran out, they ran out,
they did the good question. That's a

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good question, Like people are like
eating faces and stuff. Now where's that

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face eating kid? Yeah? See, I think it happened one. But

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you know what, in my opinion, once. That's too many times.

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Yeah, I'm gonna say it wasn't
the bath Salts that did that. That

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was just that kid. That could
have been It could have been a kid

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situation. Yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah. I was like at a restaurant

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with his parents and then he just
like calmly got up and left and went

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in like ate a dude's face and
killed That is what happened. Yeah.

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I remember that story being like fucked
up, and I followed it for a

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bit and uh, yeah, he
was just having a dinner and he's like,

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I'm gonna eat a guy's face and
excuse me for a second. What

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Yeah, it was fucked up,
Dan, do you know what he was

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eating for dinner already? Like what
if that awoken something? You know.

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I don't remember there was a security
footage. I don't remember where they were

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at or somewhere in Florida, because
sometimes when you eat like a lasagna,

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right, the layer of cheese on
top feels like you're ripping off skin,

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So I you know that might be
Oh so we had a taste for okay,

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yeah yeah, okay, yeah,
Why why deal with this imitation face

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when I can get the real deal. This is Florida. After all,

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what why, why? Why why
do you have to bring up bath salts?

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You know, why why did we
go here? I'll tell you that

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much. I regret doing it.
I don't know why I did. But

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here we are. This is on
you. Jan Oh yeah, yeah,

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it's your fault. Thank you for
helping me in mind palace that out.

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It's the last BombCast, live BombCast
of the year. Boys, what a

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yeah, just came out of like
a lovely all hands. We're talking about

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all the nice things we've done,
and I'm like, oh wow, huh,

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look at us, look at us. I would just want to give

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everyone like a little little little hug
and like a little pat on the back.

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There you go, there you go. That was nice. It felt

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nice, felt good, the warm
embrace. Right. Yeah, I'm ready

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to sleep for like two weeks.
Oh my god, yes, yeah,

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yes, oh yeah, I'm dying
for like two months. Yes. Avoid

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any sort of mac and cheese incidents
that might further your damages to your body

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and things like that, yeah,
I would, I would hope. So

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I think I'm I'm pretty slammed through
the end of the year, and I

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think January second is when maybe maybe
I can have a normal existence. Oh

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yeah, we're back to work on
January second. Yeah, so that'll be

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perfect normal existence, just like it
wouldn't work. It's fine. I'm talking

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about like traveling a much other ship. Like I specifically, yesterday, there

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was a moment where I realized I
probably could get comped to the Royal Rumble

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and go to the like two K
event and stuff. Somebody was like asking

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about it, and I was like, uh no, I don't want to

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do that. Oh my god,
he said, no, folks, Yeah,

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folks, I said, no,
Yeah, it's good just to stay

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home. I want to stay home
all day. Yes, you know,

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I'm a I'm a I'm gonna take
over dan slot of doing too many things

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I wanted to. I want to
do too many things. Yeah, not

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that I don't like me. You
don't do enough. That's what everyone always

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says. Yeah, I just have
the one plate and I'm still learning how

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to spin it. And it's like
about how lazy you are a lot.

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That's actually what most of all hands
meeting was about. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah, I I didn't get invited
to the first All hands where that was

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you know, yeah we got and
everything positive. Yeah, but then like

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he was a problem in two parentheses, so it's like, uh, it

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can't each other out. Yeah,
this is a lie. Yeah, like

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pem dos right parent the fuck is
pem dos rainbow exponent exponent multiplication division edition

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subtract. We got there, folks. By the way, I am like

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knee deep in math these days,
because like you know, kids bringing home

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some stuff that's like little, well
too advanced for my family. He's third,

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what they what are they doing?
They should be doing like times tables

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right least, that's what they're doing. Like they're doing it different. I

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don't think I got algebra to like
the fifth or sixth algebraic adjacent things.

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Are they doing those different or backlar? I don't know if they're doing it

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different. I mean I think they're
they're doing it in what appears to be

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a more intelligent way, because it's
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not realizing how important math was till
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three, and uh, I think, uh, you know, if someone

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broke it down in a way that
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ten, where it's like no,
man, like you're gonna need this,

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like especially algebra and you know,
basic math, like you will need that

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every day of your life more or
less. Yeah, And so it's just

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like breaking down like okay, yeah, six times six is thirty six,

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but what else does that mean?
Right? And they're they're trying to like

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break it down like that, which
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I'm enjoying like having a bit refreshed
too. Well. Like they'll break

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it down and they'll like they'll they'll
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grid and they'll be like, well, it's also it's also two times six

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plus four times six, right,
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be like, hey, it's okay
that it's not just you know, counting

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six six times. You can break
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times six. I will say that's
actually like as a kid, how I

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would do a lot of multiplication in
my head was be like, Okay,

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this time's okay, only just do
like ten times that. So I break

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it up into one thing that's easy, yeah, other thing that's easy and

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right. And I think they never
taught us that you just organically like figure

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that out. And I think,
and that's a good point. You bring

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up like I think they're trying to
get them to realize, like you shouldn't

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be like obviously counting on fingers were
way beyond that, right, Like now

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you need to like understand instant associations
and taking these kind of shortcuts and understanding

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like what you're doing. And it
seems to be resonating. It's interesting stuff.

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I'm enjoying it. Maths fun,
Maths cool, and math is always

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right, that's the thing, right, it's never like guess. You shouldn't

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be guessing. That's what I've been
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Sure, but we're not there yet. You know we're not there yet.

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So yeah, it's fun. Hey, Greb, how are they teaching the

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gimmicks how to read? Because a
teacher friend of mine, not my partner,

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in elementary was flabbergasted that she had
to teach kids how to site read

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versus phonetically read. Yeah, I
will tell you my wife being an early

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ED educator. For a while,
they go back and forth on that,

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like site reading for like, that's
actually way you should do it to Like

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now, I think there's a little
bit of a backlash towards site reading,

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where it's like what is sight reading
where they want you like whole word recognition.

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When you look at a word,
they want you to recognize it.

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They don't necessarily want you always to
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hybrid. Now, there are definitely
words that you should be that are site

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words that you should just know by
looking at them very early on. And

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they don't even like waste time being
like try to sound out the like no,

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just learn the And so there's a
handful, you know, maybe a

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hundred site words that they're really focused
on Emmy with and she's in first grade

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now, and then everything else is
sounding out and she's like the sounding out

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stuff is she's good at the site
words take some time and that you know,

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problem with that is like she's got
some bad site issues, so that

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doesn't help. But yeah, they
do, they try to do both.

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And I will say they go back
and forth. Do they do the like

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Greek suffix and prefixed stuff? Because
I always liked that, like that that

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would help you like learn what a
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oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah. Then they aren't doing a lot

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of that right now. But I
talk about that with her. What do

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you mean, like Greek like Latin. Do you mean Greek? Yeah?

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Yeah, it's like, oh,
well, this is this prefix. This

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suffix means this, and so if
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you know you can kind of purse
out what that means. They are on

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their way to that, but they're
not doing that yet. She will get

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to that though. Okay, okay, well look at us, Look at

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us talking about education and all that
jazz. What else is popping off before

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we talk about games? Geez?
What is going on? Dan? You

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had an insane weekend. I mean
that's but that's been your past weekends for

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the past year. Yeah. Yeah, I had that realization the other day

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where it's like, oh, every
Saturday for the last month plus has been

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like a seven plus hours show.
I just I haven't been able to forget

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all the four of us Minatti,
Grubb, Dan and myself in the elevator.

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I think the last night of the
Game Awards and Backlar had already left,

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so you can't feel film up.
Jeff. Okay, good to know

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of Minati being like Dan, we're
tired, we can't go watch Face Off,

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and then Dan you just yelling in
his face. I'm tired too.

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I feel like I'm dying just twenty
minutes. And you know what, I

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made him watch Face Off with me. Yeah, and you know you can

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win it important when things better,
you got a rally, right, we

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know what happened. Crop Bell asleep
on the fucking couch. I made Manati

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stay up and watch Face Off.
It was to what end? To what

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end? Listen to your Snati just
has seen Face Off. Now I made

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a life better. Yeah, but
just something you crawl through the desert for

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a week and a half like it's
worth it. You know. It's like

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an emotional like hike that Dan is
going on, an emotional and like physical

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test of the body, and the
spirit is specifically testing Mike Manatti's spirit.

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And the timing was perfect because I
learned that face Off and thinking about Face

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Off again, I realized that a
four K just came out and it just

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arrived in the mail today. It's
got seven deleted scenes, it's got audio

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commentary from John wu it's got a
making of but it's like out of the

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darken into the light that make a
base off. So when Bonk and I

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open our Christmas gives to each other
this week, we're going to watch all

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that stuff and it's gonna be a
delightful holiday night. That's the true meaning

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of Christmas. Yeah, y'all,
y'all got like a good director's commentary movie

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you like watching or like you you've
got It opens with him, I think

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I've said this fort Grimmin's too,
the director com Terry opens up with Joe

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Dante is welcome to Grimlins, to
the most unnecessary of sequels, and then

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that that attitude carries throughout the entire
thing, and I really appreciate it.

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That's fun. Oh he had a
uh, he had a specific thing he

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was going forward that sequels. All
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fucking movie, I'm gonna make it
dumb as shit. Yep. And he

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succeeded. It's a good way.
Yes. What's the one with Schwarzenegger where

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he's just describing what happens on is
a total recall where he's just describing now

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the part we're gonna get at the
borce, but this isn't real and like

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and describing it. It's like,
Arnold, I think you misunderstood what this

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is. You're active, all right, all right, you know we got

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Game of the Year done. If
this feels like the home stretch. There

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is the community Game of the Year
voting happening on the message boards right now.

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So you go to giant bomb dot
com you log in. The community

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is voting on Game of the Year
as we speak, so feel free to

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go in weigh in on that.
Yes, I love her, I love

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her freaks at home. I'm just
curious as to what they think the game

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of the Year is. Yeah,
I bet it's going to be boulders Kate

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three. But who could win?
We'll see that seems right. Who knows

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it could be a Pickman four.
Heyet, it would be amazing. Grub.

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I'm with you on so many things, but man, I've never been

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more with you than when you stood
up there and you were really uh giving

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it to Pickman four in a good
way. There. It was I and

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I felt good about it. That's
how I knew it was like this is

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the right choice, because like,
yeah, this makes me feel happy that

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I'm picking picking Pickman four. Yeah, it's it's my number two of the

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year. But like anytime I see
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hey, let's give it to Pickman, I'm like, yes, yeah,

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Like I feel like that's a more
underdog. You know, like, here's

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the Kingdom. I think is the
bigger, better, more important game.

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Blah blah blah. Yeah, and
I think that too. I think it's

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a better game. But like Pickman
four, I think could use the kind

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of that that raw spirit. It
deserves it. It's like, definitely the

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one that hit the hardest above its
bike, like it's weight, right,

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It's punching above its weight, so
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Yep, agreed, Well, we
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talk about games some more. It
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It's you have senioritis in a way
that I can't put into words. It's

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just like, uh, I don't
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you know what, I hope people
can. Like I whenever I used to

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listen to podcasts when I when I
did back in the day, I would

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like hear this in the voice of
hosts and be like, yeah, I'm

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I'm enjoying that with you. So
I hope people are getting that. Yeah

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that makes sense. Yeah, this
is the time of year. Enjoy enjoy

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the laxadaisical nature of it, all
right, agreed? Agreed, Bone it

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is what we're saying. Bone it
in Now with Game of the Year over,

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it feels like we just completed finals
and I've been playing a lot of

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the finals. Holy shit, guys, I feel a lot. I've been

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playing this a lot, and I
blame Jeff Bakalar profess I don't know.

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This is the three v three v
three shooter PvP. You're going to unlock

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bank vaults and then cashing in the
vaults, and then from there you are

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defending the vaults until the time are
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It's Light, Medium, and Heavy. The different classes have different weapons

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and different abilities. And let me
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of my brain that Team Fortress two
and Monday Night Combat had occupied in my

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early adulthood fun multiplayer competitive shooters.
Yes exactly, where like I just turned

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my brain off and the reflexes and
muscle memory just goes. Okay. The

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specifically, i've been only playing as
the Light class. I've discovered that at

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the tail end of that GB plays
we did last week. Because you're a

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zippy boy, right, I'm a
little zippy boy. Because the Light class

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had one of its abilities is a
grappling hook on a cool down, and

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there's already a lot of verticality and
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Unless you're the heavy class, you
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hook, the little zip lines.
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can throw out a jumpad and you
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Man, and like the grappling hook
refreshes pretty fast, So I've been able

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to get in steal the vault from
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completely skipping pro tip folks, don't
go to the closest cash and vault,

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go to the farthest one away.
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you're a zippy boy. That's easy. You're a zippy boy. It's

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so easy. And then the phone
grenade, the foam grenades, it's like,

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was it prey right, remake,
Eat, pray love and then just

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smother that bitch in foam and get
the homies to do it just like,

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uh, just keep pinging foam,
foam foam. It's smart, it's smart.

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bit. But the best part about
the finals is the destruction. Yes,

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oh yeah, definitely hands down Like
Backler, you said it best during that

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that video, but it feels like
Red Faction Gorilla. Oh what ykay?

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I need? I was already very
interested in everything you were saying, and

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now I'm downloading it immediately out Dan
the Heavy Class has a sledgehammer and in

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ability where you just hit Q and
you just cool aid man through walls.

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Yeah, you tackle and it blows
up in front of you. Okay,

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I'm going to play this like a
little spoiler. It found its way into

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my top ten. Playing this game
non stop, like it's the only thing

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I'm really playing the last three days
or so. It's really really good.

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It's really like I think the amazing
thing about this game is that it like

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has on paper, this should be
the most cringey, like annoying casino vomit

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like weird thing, and it's just
not. It is a highly precise,

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uh really uh finely tuned first person
shooter traversal game that's like feels so good

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to play. It is exceptional,
you know, you know what. It

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feels like it's from Embark Studios,
which is what I was gonna get at

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here. It's Embark, which is
former Dice people, including one of the

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founders of Dice and I can never
remember his name, but he was like

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the big guy that went from Dice
to be an EA and he was the

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guy at eas like everyone's gonna use
frost Bite, everyone's gonna use the Dice

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engine. And he left and he
made a game an unreal engine. But

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it like, it feels like,
what if Dice had the freedom to take

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all the stuff they're good at destruction
cool modes and make a new game without

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any of the baggage of having to
make Battlefield. This is the game they

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would make. I think it's totally
like learning from like like, hey,

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Battlefield did destruction very well for a
very long time, and now that feels

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kind of like, yeah, that's
something that happens in those games, but

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it's not what you come to those
games for. I mean, I'm sure

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some people still do, but it's
not like it is in the finals,

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where it's like it's core to the
experience and every moment something's blowing apart and

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they specifically make the maps so that
the vault is up in a thing hanging

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in the sky, and all you
could think about is I'm going to shoot

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my rocket for broke grenade at that
thing and make it fall to the ground.

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All they want to do in this
world right now? Yeah, And

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then it works and it falls right
in front of you and people are scrambling.

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It's so much fun and like starting
to think about how those classes work

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together. Where I was playing the
heavy class a lot, I did end

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up liking the light class and be
able to zip around, but thinking that,

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Okay, if we are going to
be a team, if I am

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the heavy, I can use my
tackle and my sledgehammer strategically so that I

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can make holes for the people who
are faster so they can get through these

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walls. And if like we start
pairing that stuff up together, it's,

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oh man, that teamwork could be
huge and it's a lot of fun to

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think about. Quick question, real
quick. So when I hear three on

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three, my only concern here is, like if I'm someone who like never

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puts on a headset, never plays
online multiplayer, like Voice Chad, I

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don't want to like get a bunch
of people like if I'm a solo,

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like when I play Fortnite, I
only do solo. Is it good if

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I'm with two randos and not talking
to them? Yeah, I've found a

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lot of success just randomly matching up
with folks. I mean, the the

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the objective is very clear, Like
you're all working towards that. I mean,

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I think you're better off talking with
friends, right, I think you'll

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you'll. That's true of any team
based sort of multiplayer game. But yeah,

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it's completely you know, capable going
solo. For sure. I like

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doing it, for sure. You
like doing it with you It's easier in

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our context where it's like, Okay, we've got our like work days and

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we do this, you know,
to do shows and stuff. So like,

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I like doing it in that context. It's just a pain in the

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ass doing it, like everyone's got
weird schedules and like doing it at night

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and trying to get people together.
But like I would love to do it

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on a show here. Yeah,
we will play it again for sure.

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Again for sure. Okay, the
best part of this thing is like at

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least two or three times a match, the thought crosses my mind of like

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I wonder what's gonna happen if I
do that? Yeah, and uh,

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that's really special there there. You
know, it's everything feels over the top,

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but not too over the top.
I think there's just like a really

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good balance. And you said it
like the things you say, I want

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to try that and things work how
you expect. Like, yeah, I

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did have my RPG out and someone
was about to capture the vault and it

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was on the floor right above me, and so I just like, I'm

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not gonna be able to get there. So I'm climbing up these stairs.

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I'm like, okay, it's like
four flights. I get to the third

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flight and I see the meters about
to hit it. So I just hit

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the ground where I think the vault
is with the RPG. You know,

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I take a little bit of damage, but mostly the floor just evaporates in

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front of me, and the vault
falls right in front of me. I

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was a like they unlocked it.
So the chest is right there and I

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just take it. I start running. I mean, they killed me.

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But the whole like concept of like
having this idea, being able to execute

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it, having the game, uh
like have results that like work the way

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you expect them to work. All
that stuff is very well done. Dan.

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The other great thing is that there
are a bunch of barrels, miscellaneous

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barrels like smoke barrels, poison gas, flame, foam, foam, and

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just explosion barrels that you can syops
pick up at any point and just launch

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launch. Yeah. Yeah, you
keep saying things that I mean, I

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was so old when you first started
talking about this, and then you said

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like eight other things I wanted to
do, and maybe this is like very

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throwaway, but there's something that really
agrees with me, the fact that like

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it's all just like a virtual kind
of thing, like oh, sure,

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you're just you're not killing anyone.
You're you're sort of like in this virtual

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reality arena and that's where this and
they make it canonically takes place. And

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there's no there's no like over the
top blood or like you know, explode

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when you die. Yeah exactly,
you know, like and like other games

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too. That's also for like Call
of Duty is virtual right now. Roman

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dies every time so much. I
don't I hope you're not like putting guilt

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on yourself every time battlefield like they're
not dying. It's Called of Duty the

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most. Yeah, you as far
as I know, Yeah, as far

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as I know. But you can
never be too sure. It looks very

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realistic. No, I say this. The second half of the thing that

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I didn't say is it is because
I'm like going back and forth of like

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showing my kid this, right,
and like that's what it comes down to,

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And I do think like it could
maybe be a good entry point into

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that. I guess Fortnite is like
another thing, but you know, yeah,

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about the Finals is that you can

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it's very early right in this game's
existence. I know it was in alpha

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and beta for a little bit,
but now I'm starting to see like,

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oh, they're gonna hopefully introduce a
lot newer modes and like ideas into this

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thing, and I'm very excited to
see this grow. Yeah. I mean

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the mode is pretty fun too,
right, Yes, absolutely, but you

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know they're gonna like possibly there's new
like you know, specials that come in

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or whatever it is. I just
think the runway is really long for this

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game, and that's exciting. There's
there's always just a fun way to think

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about it, a handful of levels, but there's variations of the levels in

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terms of times of day the weather
as well, And I thought it was

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kind of whack at first that there
are only the three classes, but then

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this depending on how you speck out
your person, it really modifies it significantly.

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Like the Medium class can just be
your all around like Mario, all

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around your type of dude. It
can also be a healer, or you

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could kind of play like an engineer
and Team Fortress where you have a turret

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coming out. And then the Light
class. I thought it was very akin

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to Scout in Not My Dog but
in Team Fortress two. But because of

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the mobility, you can also play
as like a spy because you have like

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backstabbing weapons, or you can go
invisible if you choose a different ability,

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or you could be a sniper because
you can't. You have that verticality and

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you can reach places faster than other
folks. The other really neat thing is

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how you revive people when you die
and you explode, you explode into like

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a small little action figure type of
guy. You can grab those yeah,

406
00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:22.400
throw them somewhere safe, and then
just hide and revive someone on the spot,

407
00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:25.799
which is so it's just so smart. Yeah, it's cool. Yep,

408
00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:29.640
you know, it just adds to
like the pace of it. Yeah,

409
00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:33.359
and when you're dead. You can
either wait to respond or you can

410
00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:37.519
request to be revived by teammates.
And like I found that to be like,

411
00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:40.839
oh okay, cool, I'll just
request the revives so you get me

412
00:26:40.920 --> 00:26:44.799
now, so we're all closer to
the objective rather than me being way further

413
00:26:44.839 --> 00:26:49.079
away. I think I think there's
a couple things that will also be finessed

414
00:26:49.079 --> 00:26:52.440
too. I think like there you
know, some of the especially that popular

415
00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:56.160
the main mode that we were playing, where you are just kind of looking

416
00:26:56.200 --> 00:27:00.200
to you know, a big stratus
to like just steal the the cash out,

417
00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:03.200
right, Like that is kind of
what this game turns into, where

418
00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:07.720
like it doesn't necessarily matter if you're
the one to initiate the cash out,

419
00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:11.079
it's are you the last one standing
when the thing when the timer's up?

420
00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:15.559
And I do think like people are
learning new strategy to like protect and ultimately

421
00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:18.839
like you are in a better position
to win if you do initiate the cash

422
00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:22.799
out and and sort of have a
strategy to do what how to defend it.

423
00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:26.359
But yeah, I'm curious to see
like how they tweak that stuff,

424
00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:30.440
Like it makes sense to approach it
a different way, Like you know,

425
00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:34.160
I was just thinking like, oh, maybe you know there's like you know,

426
00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:40.039
just like random generative stuff you can
put in there that yeah, changes

427
00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:42.640
the way people think about playing the
game, and it'll cause newer strategies to

428
00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:48.880
form and evolve and fun. Another
pro tip, there's just these giant cubes

429
00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:53.920
filled with stuff suspended in the arenas. Just shoot those down because they contain

430
00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:59.319
like little gas canisters or like the
little throwball items. I was in a

431
00:27:59.319 --> 00:28:03.759
game last night backlar speaking of like
different strategies developing, Whereas me and two

432
00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:07.759
other people playing as the light class
all had grappling hooks and we just hot

433
00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:15.000
potato the vault to each other across
the hole map and it was absolutely insane,

434
00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:18.279
and I felt like I felt like
the Raptors in Jurassic Park, just

435
00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:25.079
quickly running around and killing dudes.
It was great. Nor speaking about games

436
00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:29.920
that are growing, Lethal Company is
something that Jeff Greb and I played on

437
00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:36.319
the website, along with More and
turbot Shan. That's a that's a fun

438
00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:41.400
time is as how I'll phrase it. We never actually accomplished our goal,

439
00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:45.799
which was a very modest quota of
Okay, the game is, it's four

440
00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:48.400
players cooperative. You go out in
the world, you collect junk, you

441
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:51.160
bring it back. Chances are some
crazy stuff is gonna happen. You're gonna

442
00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:52.559
se a monster, giant spider,
you can fall into a pit. Uh,

443
00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:56.240
it's gonna be dark, there's gonna
be dangers, and you gotta work

444
00:28:56.279 --> 00:29:00.119
together to bring that stuff back to
your ship in three days. And on

445
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:02.920
the fourth day you have to fly
to the store sell everything you get.

446
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:04.279
You got and if you meet the
quota, then you can keep going,

447
00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:07.799
and then you could buy more stuff
to make it easier, like a shovel

448
00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:11.319
or whatever. We were figuring a
lot of this stuff out on the fly.

449
00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:17.799
But that process of not really understanding
what it is going in blind and

450
00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:22.160
having moments just happen, it was
really a good time. Like jan would

451
00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:25.920
be going ahead, he would go
a slightly different direction and he would turn

452
00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:29.240
around and he would hear us all
our voices fading, and suddenly we were

453
00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:30.359
just dead and he had no idea
what happened. He turned around, like,

454
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:33.079
what's going on here? And eventually
you would piece it together and I'm

455
00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:36.480
gonna talk around some of these things
because I think we should all play this

456
00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:38.480
together. And you guys Backlard Dan. Have you guys looked into this at

457
00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:41.920
all. I haven't seen it.
I've just heard people talking very glowingly about

458
00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:45.759
it. But yeah, like I'll
be going in pretty Dan blind, just

459
00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:48.119
knowing that people are liking it a
lot, Right, So I think the

460
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:49.759
idea would be like us the mod, so we can get all of us

461
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:52.359
in, as many of us as
possible, and we'll see if we can

462
00:29:52.400 --> 00:30:00.160
make that happen. But it is
just an emergent gameplay this situation generate or

463
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:02.279
where it's like, hey, let's
go in and try this. Is that

464
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:04.759
going to work? Let's try to
jump across there, and you can stand

465
00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:08.000
on the great watching your friend try
to make that jump, and sometimes they

466
00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:11.640
make it and sometimes they don't,
and it's always funny though. The animations

467
00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:15.799
are really simple but expressive, especially
the running, so it's like you just

468
00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:21.079
with some yes the heee. So
when everyone's panicking and running and everyone's actually

469
00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:25.240
scared of something, it's still like
a really hilarious thing to see all these

470
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:29.240
goofballs just doing this heiinee run back
to the ship and freaking out. The

471
00:30:29.839 --> 00:30:36.599
best part is that it is all
local voice proximity and proximity Yes, proximity

472
00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:40.000
voice. Yeah, yes, and
so, and then the voice modulates depending

473
00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:41.880
on the environment end. So if
you're in a metal environment, it's echoing

474
00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:45.400
oft the walls and it changes and
that sounds really great. And so if

475
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:48.400
you're like getting further away from everyone
else, so you can hear that,

476
00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:51.200
and then at a certain point you
can't hear anyone anymore unless you buy a

477
00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:55.839
walkie talkie. Uh. And that
really adds to the atmosphere and to the

478
00:30:55.880 --> 00:30:57.799
hilarity again where it's like, Okay, they thought I was dead, and

479
00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:00.880
then suddenly I come back around the
like hi, host Silver and it's like,

480
00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:06.440
ah, we're back together in these
really fun moments. I don't know

481
00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:07.880
how much more there is to the
experience, but I'm at a point where

482
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:10.640
it's like I don't really care,
because, like you could tell, we're

483
00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:14.039
going to be having a lot of
fun playing this in like seeing seeing how

484
00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:17.000
far we can get. And I
bet there are more experiences and moments that

485
00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:19.559
we haven't encountered yet that are waiting
for us. We just happened to find

486
00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:22.880
a couple on the random planets that
we landed on so far. Yeah,

487
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:26.079
this is a single dev as well, right, Greb. Yeah, I

488
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:27.160
think it's I mean that's what I've
heard. It's one one dude, one

489
00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:32.640
person Wow, insane, and it's
a hugely popular. It's when I think

490
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:33.599
it's still the most played game on
Steam. It's one of the best line

491
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:38.039
games of the year. It's huge. Speaking about another huge game, Dan,

492
00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:42.440
I see that you have put among
Us DLC. Here. Oh,

493
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:47.599
I guess I probably should have put
Vampire Survivors among Us DLC. Oh.

494
00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:51.920
Yeah, yeah, I haven't played
among Us in forever. Yeah, it's

495
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:57.039
anytime there's Vampire Survivors DLC. I
loaded up and I this is now the

496
00:31:57.079 --> 00:32:01.000
third time I've started a completely new
file a Vampire Survivors because I'm playing on

497
00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:05.160
a different account, and it's like
at first I was like, oh man,

498
00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:07.119
I don't have my say, and
then I was like, wait,

499
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:10.799
that's an excuse to play Vampire.
So yeah, like all last night I

500
00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:15.559
was just playing. I unlocked the
among Us stuff. It's uh, I

501
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:19.400
mean, any new Vampire Survivors is
always fun for me. I'll say that

502
00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:22.680
I never liked the look of among
Us and so you know, like the

503
00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:27.160
nah and like you're playing is them
and unlocking them, you're kind of playing

504
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:29.680
on those maps and everything, and
like it's always fun to see like what

505
00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:31.599
the weapon evolutions are and stuff like
that, but it's all very much like,

506
00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:35.160
oh, here's the one where it's
like the wires from among Us are

507
00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:37.680
stretching across the screen and killing enemies
and stuff. And I guess I don't

508
00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:40.400
love the look of it. I
I you know, I do love the

509
00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:45.359
look of the original Vampire Survivors,
just kind of that like vaguely Castlevania pixel

510
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:52.039
art going on this one. It's
all very among Us obviously, And at

511
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:54.519
this point I think we got to
be reaching the upper limits of like weapon

512
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:58.720
evolution things that take up the whole
screen. Like there's some clever ones where

513
00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:00.640
it's like, okay, this evolution
will make it. So there's a bunch

514
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:04.559
of like a keypad on the ground
and you got to press the keys in

515
00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:06.599
order like one, two, three, four, and then that's someone's like

516
00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:08.799
a rocket at the top of the
screen that like shoots down a bunch of

517
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:13.200
flames and stuff on the enemies.
Like there's some pretty clever ones that work

518
00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:15.240
with the among Us theme, but
uh, I mean they're all kind of

519
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:19.200
just big bullshit that kills everything on
the screen, right, I love every

520
00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:22.480
weapon evolution. Yeah, it's it's
it's its own like siloed off thing.

521
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:27.720
It's it's the Adventures tab is like
some of the most recent DFC not like

522
00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:31.799
you're not gonna have among us in
the Core Vampire Survivors experience from what I've

523
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:36.440
seen. I just played the Core
until it unlocked this Adventures thing, and

524
00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:38.319
then the Adventures thing is like,
oh, here's the legacy of the moonsfell

525
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:43.119
or whatever among us, with like
its own power ups, with its own

526
00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:45.880
like currency and things like that that
exists, and that siloed off thing.

527
00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:50.160
So I don't know, it's an
excuse play more Vampire Survivors. It got

528
00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:52.440
me back into that, which is
like the ideal. Like I just put

529
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:53.440
on Raw last night and just played
it all night, and it was at

530
00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:58.240
a good time, so it's also
a good RAW. I was pleasantly surprised

531
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:00.720
the last couple of weeks I early
sit down and watch an entire raw live.

532
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:04.640
I'll just like watch a match fire. It was really good. Watch

533
00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:07.079
the last raws and I was like, wait a minute, all these stories

534
00:34:07.199 --> 00:34:13.440
like have places they're going and there's
like multiple over baby bass and like like

535
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:16.920
this, the Drew promo was really
good last night, and it's like it's

536
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:22.320
actually actually getting like to be a
pretty good wrestling show. Yes, it

537
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:27.239
had to happen. Yeah, punk
rolling stuff. It's fascinating, Like,

538
00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:34.599
man, what the hell? Our
Truth just hilarious? God yeah, yeah,

539
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:38.920
yeah, you would love Our Truth. It's like scary that there's it's

540
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:42.920
just like a good show and it's
a three hour long raw that I'm like,

541
00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:49.239
man, all this I started.
What's going on? I'm waiting for

542
00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:52.519
to drop. I'm like, what's
happening? Yeah, I don't know.

543
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:55.800
I just did like a pie chart
of like all the time I have in

544
00:34:55.840 --> 00:35:00.679
my day, and like there's just
no sliver for aw Like it's just not

545
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:06.199
you gotta spare three hours in the
evening. Come, there's just not I

546
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:10.199
If I send you a series of
gifts, will that help? I can't

547
00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:14.280
wait to consume wrestling? Yeah,
Like if I could just have a gift

548
00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:20.480
based sort of like consumption of that
medium, I'd be happy. You know,

549
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:22.679
just do that. In fact,
I encourage you to do that.

550
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:27.360
I would like to consume wrestling only
in gift form for the rest of my

551
00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:30.320
life. Get the whole you know, industry. Yeah, thank you,

552
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:36.679
thank you, even the promos you
can get gift it's great. Dan.

553
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:40.480
You also put here house Flipper too. Yeah. I never played that before.

554
00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:44.039
I think I think I was on
a quick look that like Abby did

555
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:45.480
back in the day, and I
was like, oh, that was cool,

556
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:47.280
but I never played it. I'm
playing this now and like it's immediately

557
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:52.840
kind of that scratching that hour wash
itch where it's like you go into a

558
00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:54.559
new area and it's just like,
oh man, this place is fucked up.

559
00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:58.840
Like there's this trash everywhere in pizza
boxes, and there's like graffiti all

560
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:01.400
over and windows, like everything's fucked
up. And then by the time you're

561
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:07.599
done, it's looking great. And
this is just like powerwash simulator if it

562
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:09.079
was power washing and then a bunch
of other stuff. So like, I

563
00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:13.480
love like getting my process together.
I go into a fucked up house and

564
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:15.599
at first I'm like, okay,
all the trash, all the like,

565
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:17.360
you know, just food boxes and
just shit on the floor and broken glass

566
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:21.280
and broken bases. I'm cleaning all
that shit up, put in the garbage,

567
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:22.800
and then there's stains everywhere, and
so I'm going around, I'm spraying

568
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:25.559
everything I'm wiping everything down with my
cloth, the ceilings, there's fucking gross

569
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:29.360
stains everywhere. I'm getting all that
figured out, and then you know,

570
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:31.400
there's a bunch of just bullshit that
you're selling, like you're flipping the house.

571
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:35.280
So you have like a flip or
tool. So you go. It's

572
00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:37.719
like all these shitty old chairs,
all this stuff you sell and that get

573
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:39.440
rid of these cabinets, all that
shit, and then you see like what

574
00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:42.880
you're supposed to buy to put in
there. It's like, Okay, now

575
00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:45.480
I can reorganize this room however I
want. I got rid of this dividing

576
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:47.599
wall. I'm gonna put this couch
over here. Like it's it's scratching a

577
00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:52.360
lot of itches between like almost like
simgame like more like like the ones where

578
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:55.639
you're actually like designing a house or
like when you're building a place in Minecraft

579
00:36:55.679 --> 00:37:00.360
or something. Plus it's got the
cleaning element of like a power wash.

580
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:06.280
I'm also learning that I think I
have no fucking skills whatsoever at like a

581
00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:09.119
design, like interior design, because
like I'll get into the place where everything's

582
00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:10.840
clean, it's like, all right, now, what am I gonna do

583
00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:14.599
with the wallpaper and the tiles and
stuff here, and I'm all right,

584
00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:17.679
this like geometric white and blue wallpaper
looks you got to put that up there.

585
00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:21.800
And I'll get these like hexagon tiles
and put them here and this for

586
00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:23.480
the floor. And then I sit
back and like, given me with no

587
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:25.719
eye for aesthetics or anything, I'm
just like, oh, this looks like

588
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:29.559
shit. Like walk if I walked
into this house, I'd be like,

589
00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:32.599
this place fucking sucks. So once
it opened up and it lets you kind

590
00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:36.280
of do whatever you want aesthetically,
I just realized, like, I don't

591
00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:38.119
I need people to tell me like, okay, yeah, put wood down

592
00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:42.360
here and then like stone up here, because if left of my own devices,

593
00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:45.760
it's just gonna look like garbage.
But your basement is really nice,

594
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:50.719
Dan. The way you've organized it
is that because it's all like memorabilia stuff

595
00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:52.639
that you have an affinity for.
If it was just if you weren't allowed

596
00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:55.119
to put like any gaming stuff in
her room, do you think that's where

597
00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:58.440
you would struggle? That's a cheek
code. I mean if I'm just like

598
00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:00.800
setting up a fun game room,
I know how to do that, Like,

599
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:01.559
oh, here's a bunch of cool
shit. I like like here's I

600
00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:05.440
want to just play these nes games. Arcade goes over there, Like that's

601
00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:07.039
that's like almost like cheating. It's
just like, how's that room not gonna

602
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:09.840
be cool? It's just a bunch
of video game stuff versus like if I

603
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:13.159
had to go into a room and
just be like get some nice couches and

604
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:15.800
wallpaper, I would just leave,
you know. Yeah, I'd be the

605
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:17.639
same way for sure. Yeah.
But a game room, I can put

606
00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:22.119
together game room for sure. Right. Yeah, that's always been I like

607
00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:24.360
games like Animal Crossing, Disney Illusion
Island. I mean I like that game

608
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:29.280
for other reasons, but when it
comes to the interior decorating aspect, I'm

609
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:34.199
just absolute garbo of like I like
that table, these chairs don't match,

610
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:37.800
but I have enough money for these
chairs. Yeah, but yeah, like

611
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:40.159
I'm like, oh, all this
stuff costs money and I'm gonna be bad

612
00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:43.119
at this, so I'm gonna make
a mistake. So so I just sort

613
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:45.000
of just freeze instead of like,
oh, I'm afraid of wasting money on

614
00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:49.440
chairs that won't match, so yes, I avoid it. I'm a very

615
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:52.320
function over aesthetics guy. Yeah,
yeah, just be that way. Yeah,

616
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:55.559
maybe we should just have benches everywhere. Huh. You just slide into

617
00:38:55.559 --> 00:38:59.760
a bench, and I would be
happy to have a bench sort of air

618
00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:02.079
like a picnic table as our table
for the family room. I'd like I

619
00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:05.559
got a big bean bag out there, that's nice. Yeah, the big

620
00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:08.639
bean bag is what's what's what's the
etiquette with a bean bag? When you

621
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:12.079
got to fluff it? Do you
just turn it over and do you worry

622
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:15.360
about the bottom side? I do
a couple of rolls. You just like,

623
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:16.199
you know, get it up on
one side it's not normally on.

624
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:19.519
Kind of roll it around a couple
of times in its space and put it

625
00:39:19.559 --> 00:39:22.039
back down. It'll be nice and
fluffed up. Jeff Greb, look you

626
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:24.800
good for a second? Is there
something about other kind of fluffing? So

627
00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:29.320
I was gonna say, cup the
balls, that's that's what you're Wow,

628
00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:35.880
Hey, bad boy, I know
listen. I stopped myself and then you

629
00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:39.559
asked I was gonna let it go. No. I was curious if jerking

630
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:44.400
off cardboard cutouts wasn't enough. Now, I don't know, I have no

631
00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:46.760
idea what I was just gesturing to
my friends, just hosting a television hosting

632
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:53.480
the show. Yeah, yeah,
that was part of the feedback. I

633
00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:58.199
even heard that at a meeting.
All good things, all good things,

634
00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:00.679
all get all good things, wonderful, all good things, all good things,

635
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:07.519
all good things. Another good thing
that has circled back around. Turns

636
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:10.519
out God of War Ragnarrock's really great. What if we turned it into a

637
00:40:10.599 --> 00:40:19.400
roguelike with God of War Valhalla something
like I know, I know what this

638
00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:21.639
is, but I don't know what
it is, so just tell me and

639
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:24.400
I'll get around to it sometime next
year. Yo. Hey, you ever

640
00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:28.880
want to like, go play God
of War but you don't want the story

641
00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:31.719
and like him talking to his kid
and like, yes, that's all I

642
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:37.079
want. Dan. Do you like
Hades? Yes? Did you like playing

643
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:42.000
twenty eighteen God of War and Ragnarrock
playing it? Playing it? Yes?

644
00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:45.920
What if you just had Hades and
God of War? Yes, yes,

645
00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:50.119
that's what that's what this is.
Okay, I would like to play that,

646
00:40:50.119 --> 00:40:54.400
so as of course, yes,
But I mean that fighting system was

647
00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:58.639
always really good, even though I
didn't like Ragnarok, absolutely fantastic. Just

648
00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:01.199
do the fighting system. What if
you had everything unlocked and had all the

649
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:04.800
weapons right from the game. Yeah, the weapons you don't they're not fully

650
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:07.199
powered up. You're gonna it's a
rogue light, so you're gonna lose some

651
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:08.679
of that stuff. But yes,
all this sounds good. Yes, So

652
00:41:09.079 --> 00:41:13.800
that's basically all it is. It's
a separate menu item. You just launch

653
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:17.440
into Valhalla quick download. There's a
little bit of story bits at the time.

654
00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:22.440
It does take place after the story
of Ragnarok. Yes, but I

655
00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:24.920
didn't play through Ragnarok, and everyone's
like, you're gonna be so lost,

656
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:28.960
there's gonna be spoilers, and that
just doesn't matter at all. It's a

657
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:30.719
bunch of people being like, oh, you're in there, you're fighting these

658
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:35.400
things because your credos. That's that's
wild. Man Like, yeah, that's

659
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:37.440
pretty wild. I'm gonna go back
in there now, and that's it.

660
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:42.920
So okay. And it does do
the Haiti style storytelling where okay, you

661
00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:45.800
went through a run, you died, and probably pretty quickly on that first

662
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:47.199
run, seems like they kind of
put you up against stuff that's pretty tough

663
00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:50.760
right away. You come back out
and they're like, okay, now here's

664
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:54.199
a new little quick cut scene that's
gonna going to move the story forward.

665
00:41:54.199 --> 00:41:57.480
But it doesn't really get in the
way in the way that I felt like

666
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:00.239
the storytelling and some of these other
PlayStation games Ken this is a really good

667
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:04.760
idea. I'm a huge fan of
this trend by the way of just taking

668
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:07.280
a game turning into a rogue light, especially as an update that comes a

669
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:10.519
year or like two or three years
later. This is fantastic. I'm a

670
00:42:10.519 --> 00:42:14.440
big fan of this. It's cool. I realize, oh shit, Ragnark

671
00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:19.800
looks amazing. Yep, and yeah, it's one of the best looking games

672
00:42:19.800 --> 00:42:23.480
all the PS five and then totally
Backlar. I think we had this conversation

673
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:30.239
where it's tough to want to revisit
God of War specifically because you just don't

674
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:34.039
want to replay all the story bits. It's because you've felt you've gone through

675
00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:37.360
it already, but going through everything
and oh Jeff's is Jeff gone? No,

676
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:43.119
I see you for a second.
But in Valhalla, just being able

677
00:42:43.159 --> 00:42:46.199
to riins through these enemies and then
you know, like in a roguelike,

678
00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:52.119
have to quickly adapt your style of
gameplay and then deciding of like, okay,

679
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:54.199
I normally rock with the Blades of
Chaos, but like this run,

680
00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:59.199
we're just doing spear and they give
you different bonuses, so I encourage that

681
00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:01.679
variety of plays, so it's like
your first room, you're gonna get a

682
00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:06.239
couple of options. Do you want
to do something with your Blades of Chaos

683
00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:08.000
or do you want to do something
with the Axe, And then as you

684
00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:10.440
do that, that's going to influence
all of the upgrades that show up in

685
00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:13.800
the world after that, so it's
like, Okay, this is going to

686
00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:16.800
be mostly an axe run. You
can still switch your weapons and make some

687
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:20.880
decisions that might change things up later
during that run, but it does a

688
00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:23.079
good job making each run feel different
than the last, which is something I

689
00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:25.320
think even Returnal struggled with, which
like, oh yeah, to me,

690
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:29.639
that felt very samy from them to
run, So like this is actually in

691
00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:34.119
some ways more impressive than return It's
really smart too, because you will have

692
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:38.440
run to run upgrades that you're unlocking
for your specific runs, and then when

693
00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:42.559
you get to a checkpoint, which
is after a couple of rooms, you

694
00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:44.920
can suspend the game and be like, all right, I'm gonna come back

695
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:50.000
later if you wanted to, I
guess check out the other parts of Ragnrock.

696
00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:55.679
But there's also general upgrades for Krados
across the board, so you can

697
00:43:55.679 --> 00:44:00.199
increase your rage meter, increase your
health, all your different stats like strength,

698
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:04.199
vitality, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. But yeah,

699
00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:09.079
it's real fun and I just love
that mostly everything is un locked. You're

700
00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:13.800
not super powered up, like Grub
said, but like also, when you're

701
00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:17.800
starting each run, you choose between
like your shield and your different rage ability

702
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:21.400
and and then also have bonuses each
time, so it's like, Okay,

703
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:23.639
I've never used this shield before it
has the bonus. This time, I'll

704
00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:28.320
just use that, And now that
means I'll get more benefit in the long

705
00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:30.559
run, where I'm upgrading the character
longer term so that the next run is

706
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:35.920
even easier. Yeah, And then
it's that way you're encouraging different play styles

707
00:44:35.960 --> 00:44:38.639
of like, Okay, I never
would have checked this out if I wasn't

708
00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:44.800
incentivized to do it this way.
And then there's quiet moments in between where

709
00:44:44.840 --> 00:44:46.159
you know they'll sprinkle in a little
bit the story, a little bit of

710
00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:49.920
roaming around, but it's and the
people do like the story have been saying

711
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:53.000
that they like this stuff still,
so it's not like a completely devoid of

712
00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:57.239
the things that people do like about
Cora Ragnarok is. It's just this is

713
00:44:57.320 --> 00:45:00.559
much more the style of game that
I'm into these days, and so I'm

714
00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:04.159
greatly appreciative that this is here as
an option. Totally wild that this is

715
00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:07.239
a free update as well. Yeah, totally yeah. And then the way

716
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:12.760
that they're framing you being in these
different parts that you've visited in both games.

717
00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:15.920
It's like, oh, well,
this is Valhalla pulling the memories out

718
00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:19.159
of credos, So this is why
you kind of remember it like this,

719
00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:22.480
or this is why it's condensed.
But you've been here before, you fought

720
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:27.000
these guys before, and mymir is
around, my miir is not like two

721
00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:30.119
talkie, and uh yeah, god
it it's just so good. It's so

722
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:37.159
good. I played it on my
Steam Deck using the chiacky app Chiacki four

723
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:39.119
decks, which has showed me how
to do that. How'd that go?

724
00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:43.000
It's super easy. Now there's just
a couple of steps that are weird about

725
00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:45.480
getting your PSN, Like, you
know your the code for PSN, which

726
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:47.840
is something you just got to go
to a website to do. So the

727
00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:51.840
first time I try to set up
Chiocky for deck on my original Steam deck,

728
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:53.880
something went wrong. It didn't work. I gave up. That's why

729
00:45:53.880 --> 00:45:59.199
I was I'm considering a PlayStation portal
the new PSP for a while. Now

730
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:02.920
I'll just get that. But then
Chiaki four deck updated and now it supports

731
00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:07.159
HDR on the steam deck o LED, so I was like, okay,

732
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:09.000
I should just try that first and
see how that works and maybe I can

733
00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:12.599
get working. This time, it
was super easy. I just went through

734
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:15.079
a couple of steps and again i'll
show you that jan and it just started

735
00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:20.000
working. I was able to turn
on my PlayStation five remotely from upstairs and

736
00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:22.880
I went over there, updated a
God of War and started playing it,

737
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:25.519
and the HDR just worked. And
that's the best thing about the Steam deck

738
00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:30.199
o Lead actually is how well the
HDR works compared to a PC where it's

739
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:32.519
such a crapshoot and Windows is terrible
of that stuff. Here, it's like,

740
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:35.920
if HDR is going to work,
it'll just turn on. It's going

741
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:37.239
to work, and that that's how
it happened here, and it looked great.

742
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:42.760
It ran fantastic. I was going
over my six gigahertz connection, which

743
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:45.440
is really great for all this wireless
gaming stuff. Now that's how I've been

744
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:50.079
using the mediquest three and steam is
with the six gigahertz connection, It's flawless.

745
00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:52.559
There was never never even stuttering,
stuttering like I've had before with it.

746
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:55.599
So it's like things are getting to
a point where these things can work.

747
00:46:55.880 --> 00:46:59.840
And now it's like my preferred way
to be playing PlayStation five games.

748
00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:01.880
So I would not have I would
not have had time to check in with

749
00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:05.840
Valhalla. That just the way it
fits in with my life. I sitting

750
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:08.159
down here by by myself on the
couch while people are upstairs. The guilt

751
00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:12.440
is too much. I just feel
like I'm disconnected from everybody. So being

752
00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:15.679
able to sit around them on the
Steam deck and fit it in here and

753
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:19.280
there and fits in spurts like fits
and starts like that's it's worked. It

754
00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:22.559
worked really well that way, So
yeah, and again it's super easy to

755
00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:28.239
set up these days. I faced
a moral conflict when I fired up Valhalla.

756
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:30.440
And it's been a minute since I've
played Ragonrock. I don't I don't

757
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:37.079
think i've touched it since last year, and I immediately hit square to melee,

758
00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:39.840
but then I've remembered, Oh,
it's all the bumpers and the triggers.

759
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:43.760
They dark sold it. They dark
sold it in and I got to

760
00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:46.559
ask, y'all, where do you
land on the preferred melee button placement.

761
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:52.679
I've come around on it because I
like keeping my thumbs on the sticks.

762
00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:57.159
So this is I think it's just
pretty good these days. It's it took

763
00:47:57.159 --> 00:48:00.119
me a while, I do I
in my heart, Squire still melee like

764
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:02.639
and then trying what is going to
be the heavy attack. In my heart,

765
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:07.519
that's the way it is. But
once I get like it takes thirty

766
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:09.239
seconds. Okay, it's up here
on the bumpers and the shoulder button.

767
00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:12.760
I'm used to it. Now,
I'll just keep my thumbs on the sticks

768
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:15.199
and now I can look around and
attack at the same time. In this

769
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:17.000
game, they always have someone someone
running up behind you, so it's important

770
00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:21.480
to be like on a swivel.
So I do like it. It's probably

771
00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:24.039
actually the right way to do things. I don't dislike it at all,

772
00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:27.800
Like I like, you know,
Armored Core and Elden Ringing the way from

773
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:30.920
has kind of done it. But
I am old, so I do like

774
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:34.760
it when things are like they were
on the PlayStation two. So as long

775
00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:37.559
as you can admit that ex.
Jump, Square, Slice, triangle,

776
00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:43.159
heavy circle, grab. Yeah.
I do like block being on the bumper

777
00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:45.639
though, Like that feels like a
good place for it. El One l

778
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:49.280
One's block button. Yeah, yes, definitely. I think def Jam Fight

779
00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:52.400
for New York introduced that into my
life, and then I'm like, okay,

780
00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:54.840
well this is the only place that
has it can be now technically the

781
00:48:54.880 --> 00:49:00.559
wrestling games they made on sixty four
before that did the all right pipe in

782
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:02.440
a video that's going to come out
next week, I learned that I've committed

783
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:07.639
crimes holding sixty four controller of the
way I've held it my whole life.

784
00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:09.920
Oh I don't want to see a
picture of that. Yeah, not good,

785
00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:14.159
it's not good. This was also
covered in the meeting. I'm assuming

786
00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:16.559
this doesn't game. Oh yeah,
yeah, totally. We had a conversation

787
00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:21.079
about this. Yeah, oh god, well you'll get the breakdown. Yeah,

788
00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:24.440
there's one more game listed here,
and might as well call it the

789
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:29.320
game of the week, because why
not? Why not? Why not?

790
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:35.599
Sweak a game? Yeah, Dan, I've heard this, just take I

791
00:49:35.639 --> 00:49:40.800
heard this yeah, like a week
ago, and uh yeah, downloaded it.

792
00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:44.920
It's what three dollars. Yeah,
there's a bunch of clones and then

793
00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:46.280
there's a browser one I tried that
out. The physics are all a won

794
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:49.880
you no, no, you gotta
go a physics have to be right.

795
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:54.039
The browser very important garbage. Yeah, it's it's so interesting because like when

796
00:49:54.079 --> 00:49:57.400
you start playing it, it seems
like it's like, okay, well this

797
00:49:57.519 --> 00:50:00.280
is like the simplest puzzle game ever. You get it. Within like thirty

798
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:01.079
seconds, You're like, Okay,
I feel like you're going to reach a

799
00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:05.880
certain point where's get it can't really
get much past that. But as you

800
00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:08.559
play it a few hundred times,
uh, do you start to realize that,

801
00:50:08.679 --> 00:50:13.280
like, okay, the physics of
this and like you know, there's

802
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:15.960
there is a strategy that like I
find myself getting better, Like I'm now

803
00:50:16.039 --> 00:50:20.639
like in the like mid three thousands
on the score, which at first it

804
00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:22.719
was like, you know, two
thousand was kind of like as high as

805
00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:23.559
I could get. And it's because
now I know it's like, Okay,

806
00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:25.679
I've got these big ones over here, I'm gonna try to keep the small

807
00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:29.639
ones over here, you know,
how to kind of lay things together where

808
00:50:29.639 --> 00:50:30.880
it's like when they do start bouncing
around like some we're going to get through

809
00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:36.320
the cracks and form together. You
start knowing how to avoid things popping out

810
00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:38.480
if it starts getting too high.
For those who haven't played it, it's

811
00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:42.559
just it seems like everyone's playing.
So I don't know if I'm just reaching

812
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:44.880
the choir here, but you're just
putting fruits together. Put a couple of

813
00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:46.000
cherries together, it turns into a
strawberry. Couple of strawberries together, it

814
00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:51.400
turns in grapes. A couple of
grapes turns into it. Some weird's that,

815
00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:57.239
like, the physics sounds like I
just heard like a Southern auctioner voice

816
00:50:57.239 --> 00:51:01.440
come out of for a second with
fruit you were like two firs Kansas fought

817
00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:07.480
for the North. Yeah, Southerner, but yeah, no, it's just

818
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:09.400
yeah, it's uh. I've heard
it described as like, you know,

819
00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:15.320
a Tetris puzzler, you know,
meets threes with physics, and that's what

820
00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:17.239
got me to download it, and
it's far the accurate description, and it's

821
00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:21.599
very, very fun. It's simple. It's three dollars you get the switch

822
00:51:21.679 --> 00:51:25.039
version. How juicy is it in
terms of like actual literal fruit juice,

823
00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:29.280
like spring out of fruits? No, no, no, no, no

824
00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:31.119
a lot. I wish it was
a juicier. I wish it was much

825
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:36.719
juicier, like a fruit juicry.
Yeah, there's no real juice. They're

826
00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:39.079
just kind of like smile on that
faces. They don't really I'll be honest.

827
00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:45.199
I don't even consider them fruit.
They just are like reproductively fruit.

828
00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:49.559
No, I realized, like JPEGs. Yeah, they're just sort of marbles

829
00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:52.480
like they they could be more fruits. Look, I call it like I

830
00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:57.960
see it faces that just smile and
then if one pops out to go like,

831
00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:00.880
that's about it. I was saying
grub saying something is just a jpeg.

832
00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:08.559
I'm like, wow, I never
heard something more derogatory. We're making

833
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:15.239
new slurs. Let's go, God, this is going to hurt my political

834
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:21.000
career in a couple of years.
Man's fucking boning myself so hard. You're

835
00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:29.840
gonna be Mari James. We found
some deeply troubling podcasts calling people jaypegs.

836
00:52:29.880 --> 00:52:36.719
As we all know is now uses
a shirt two that I used. The

837
00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:39.119
one wants to open a portal to
another dimension in them room. I don't

838
00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:42.800
even know how to open that,
I do, I don't even I'm so

839
00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:45.400
scared. Who uses what is the
practical use for a jpeg? Two thousand

840
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:51.519
I don't think there actually is one
anymore. Support the future? What do

841
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:54.519
you want? That? Is it
for games? Unless anyone else has anything

842
00:52:54.519 --> 00:52:59.840
they want to chat about, real
real quick. I want to play that

843
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:04.400
as cards as cards raft to me
too. Meta Quest three it got a

844
00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:09.840
ten from my gn what oh yeah, ten? It got a ten a

845
00:53:09.960 --> 00:53:15.519
VR ten, ten out of ten? Well, I mean like ten out

846
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:17.199
of ten on VR? What is
it like Alex? Right? Yeah?

847
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:21.679
Alan definitely the best? Right,
So it's like this has got to be

848
00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:25.679
as good or at least as impressive
as Alex. Right, So I'm gonna

849
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:30.440
try this out. And is a
v Yeah, like what's the what's the

850
00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:35.920
scales? VR ten? What does
that translate? Oh my god, I

851
00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:38.880
mean Alex, are you a Miami
ten or a VR ten? You know?

852
00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:45.119
Oh, I get what we're doing. Yeah, come on, play

853
00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:50.000
along alexas like Alex is like legitimately
like a great game. If you take

854
00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:52.559
Alex out of the equation, What
is the like next? Like VR ten?

855
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:58.239
Astrobos a good one. It's a
really good one. Yeah, there's

856
00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:01.239
a couple of really good ones.
I guess. Yeah, I'm interested,

857
00:54:01.440 --> 00:54:06.079
and I'll say I am using my
MEDA Quest three still almost every night.

858
00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:09.480
Uh. Wow. The big thing
is, uh, I started streaming Star

859
00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:14.280
Wars Jedi Survivor into it not as
a VR game, It's not a R

860
00:54:14.360 --> 00:54:16.000
game. It just makes a big
HD screen, so I could just like,

861
00:54:16.039 --> 00:54:19.519
Okay, I'm like tired, I
don't want to go set up the

862
00:54:19.519 --> 00:54:22.559
family room and play games in there. I'll just stream it in bed and

863
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:25.480
have the screen be up here and
like kick back and have the controller connected

864
00:54:25.519 --> 00:54:30.840
to the PC and I play.
I played way to turn your brain up

865
00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:39.599
before a night of restless weep.
Bright pixels shot directly into my next I've

866
00:54:39.639 --> 00:54:44.079
been sleeping great. I don't know
what you're talking. I screen in my

867
00:54:44.119 --> 00:54:50.960
bedroom much. Yeah, exactly,
Listen. I think we all just need

868
00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:53.440
to hear this every now and then. I know I'm surely not the first

869
00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:58.119
person to suggest this. I just
want to put this out there. Uh.

870
00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:06.719
The film, the film Wally was
a warning, dudes, I'm not

871
00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:09.280
my bean bag. It's actually what
I'm doing. So my body is like

872
00:55:09.360 --> 00:55:14.440
floating in mid air and I'm just
like, I feel exactly like one of

873
00:55:14.440 --> 00:55:22.000
those big human babies. So yes, Wally was a warning, suggest ambition.

874
00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:27.000
It was an ambition that it wasn't
a goal to aim for. This

875
00:55:27.199 --> 00:55:31.559
was the human human future? Bad, No do this. I'm I'm gonna

876
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:36.519
say this was something slightly naughty that
I did. Don't think naughty like that

877
00:55:36.599 --> 00:55:45.039
and VR dirty shape eggs. Okay, So I pulled the grub, right,

878
00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:46.920
I pulled the grub. He said
he was laying in bed with a

879
00:55:47.000 --> 00:55:50.800
VR helmet. I'm like, oh, I'll try that up through on the

880
00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:52.079
VR helmet. And then I was
like, oh, you know what what

881
00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:55.599
if I fall asleep? So I
put on my seat papachute, Oh my

882
00:55:55.639 --> 00:56:02.280
god. And then I just watched
just two hours of Alita Battle Angel in

883
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:07.679
three D. This fucking rules.
I didn't know you had your step machine

884
00:56:07.679 --> 00:56:12.239
on chan. You are living in
the year three thousand. You must this

885
00:56:12.280 --> 00:56:15.400
is the next step of human evolution. We are witnessing it. Yo,

886
00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:22.119
you must have. That was cyberpunk, fucking abomination. Someone took a photo

887
00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:25.559
that was the best way to see
a three D movie was greatly actually it

888
00:56:25.599 --> 00:56:30.519
Actually, it's a great way to
watch three D movies like Dental Nitrous And

889
00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:36.639
then do that ship. Did you
have insures and elixirs inside your seatpap Yeah,

890
00:56:36.679 --> 00:56:39.360
I've thought about that. Is the
meta Quest Is that, like,

891
00:56:39.360 --> 00:56:44.360
what's this? What's still the most
powerful VR out there? You're talking about

892
00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:47.639
wireless? Yeah, it's I just
want to know the most powerful one out

893
00:56:47.639 --> 00:56:51.880
there, the one we can go
back to a computer, because your computer

894
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:57.119
is the most powerful with the Medaquest
like the mid platform, Like, so

895
00:56:57.320 --> 00:57:00.360
we've established it obviously has to be
hooked up to your computer for the most

896
00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:01.960
powerful VR. Okay, feel you
know in that case, mata Quest three

897
00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:07.280
with the wireless over the six gigahertz
has been fantastic. It's been so good

898
00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:09.239
and if you have trouble with that
connection, you can always see the direct

899
00:57:09.280 --> 00:57:12.760
link cable things. So, like, honestly, the meta Quest three is

900
00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:15.920
without a doubt the best I've used. Yeah, I mean, you're gonna

901
00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:21.719
get better resolution and a few other
very expensive headsets, but like what takes

902
00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:23.559
good it's good enough for me.
We are at a point where it's like

903
00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:28.880
everything is good enough. The tracking
is good enough, the software to understand,

904
00:57:29.039 --> 00:57:30.480
Yeah there's a okay, sure,
there's a bean bag in the area

905
00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:34.719
that I that I marked off,
but let's just be chill about that.

906
00:57:34.840 --> 00:57:37.280
Let me fucking lay in the bean
bag and keep everything working. And it

907
00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:40.199
just keeps working and then the resolution
is strong enough so you don't get the

908
00:57:40.199 --> 00:57:44.920
screen door effect, so you can
actually watch an HD movie or play a

909
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:49.280
game and it's not going to be
distracting. The one problem is in in

910
00:57:50.079 --> 00:57:52.960
Star Wars, and I think this
happens in any game that you're playing Eastern

911
00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:57.679
Steamlink. If the pointer turns off, it goes into sleep mode. It

912
00:57:57.719 --> 00:58:00.960
turns your headset into the mouse cursor. So when I move around now and

913
00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:04.239
the mouse is like looking around,
and it's like very distracting. So I

914
00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:06.159
have to like kind of turn that
off every a little bit. And apparently

915
00:58:06.199 --> 00:58:08.599
there's no solution for that, so
there's still some caveats. But if you're

916
00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:12.000
looking to get in a VR right
now, I really do recommend the Meta

917
00:58:12.079 --> 00:58:15.679
Quest three. It's very good.
Yeah, people really seem to like they're

918
00:58:15.679 --> 00:58:21.039
hot on this big screen. Oh
yeah, that's that's what we're using.

919
00:58:21.280 --> 00:58:24.079
That's how I stumbled on to lead
a battle Angel. There's also people can

920
00:58:24.119 --> 00:58:29.960
host public rooms. Yeah, and
don't accidentally walk into the public rooms.

921
00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:35.440
Well yeah, I mean if you
want one there Because I caught the last

922
00:58:35.760 --> 00:58:38.800
thirty minutes of Leave the World Behind
that new Julia Roberts movie on Netflix.

923
00:58:38.840 --> 00:58:42.440
I went into one of those rooms
and that was there, and I'm just

924
00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:45.000
like, I had no idea what
this movie was, but I got I

925
00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:47.639
got an Ethan Hawk vibe. I'm
like, I think Ethan Hawk's going to

926
00:58:47.679 --> 00:58:51.039
be in the next scene, and
then he wasn't, but he was in

927
00:58:51.079 --> 00:58:58.079
the scene after that. Yeah.
Is Big Screen an app or future?

928
00:58:59.360 --> 00:59:01.519
Okay? So oh, I thought
you meant the hardware. No, No,

929
00:59:01.599 --> 00:59:05.519
big Screen VR is an app you
can get through all the vrs.

930
00:59:05.559 --> 00:59:08.079
Okay, because there is a VR
headset called big Screen. Oh they probably

931
00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:10.280
make I think they make their own
right, Okay, yeah, they make

932
00:59:10.360 --> 00:59:14.880
them. Yeah, that's right.
Yes, I saw them talking about that

933
00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:15.719
in the app. When you load
up the app, they have a thing.

934
00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:19.360
But yeah, that's pretty It's probably
pretty good. Yeah. My only

935
00:59:19.639 --> 00:59:23.000
uh, the only delta I'd say
is when you're in a scout I swear

936
00:59:23.039 --> 00:59:27.320
to god. Uh, if you're
in a dimly lit room and you're trying

937
00:59:27.320 --> 00:59:30.280
to use the hand tracking to point
to stuff you accident you occasionally will click

938
00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:35.800
on accidental rooms that you don't mean
to walk into, and then some uh,

939
00:59:35.840 --> 00:59:40.880
some questionable audio pops up and then
you you you suddenly accidentally start watching

940
00:59:40.880 --> 00:59:45.480
something with a bunch of other people
in everyone else in the room. Yeah

941
00:59:45.599 --> 00:59:49.199
yeah yeah, and then you have
to panically rip off the VR helmet and

942
00:59:49.280 --> 00:59:53.159
then your seepet machine and go confess
in church. Yeah yeah, well I

943
00:59:53.159 --> 00:59:57.599
mean the church part. That's that's
a virtual confession. Yeah, virtual church.

944
00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:01.320
You go to a different app to
launch. Yo, I'm sorry,

945
01:00:01.360 --> 01:00:05.719
but we could. Verch dot org
is like, if it's not a thing,

946
01:00:05.760 --> 01:00:12.880
we need to get this episode VICH
or dirty JPEGs. God, pretty

947
01:00:12.920 --> 01:00:16.360
good. Verch dot org for me
is like, I think how we're gonna

948
01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:20.960
raise our Alex. But if you're
still listening to the podcast, can you

949
01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:24.400
do a cover of take Hosiers Take
me to Church? But instead of take

950
01:00:24.480 --> 01:00:30.800
me to church, just go take
me to VICH? Please take me to

951
01:00:30.480 --> 01:00:34.800
Did he text you too during this
podcast? Because he also texted me?

952
01:00:34.840 --> 01:00:38.000
And now I feel offended? Alex? What are you doing? You text

953
01:00:38.039 --> 01:00:42.639
everyone when we do the podcast?
What is happening? Why? Why don't

954
01:00:42.639 --> 01:00:47.280
you just make a group chat Alex? Day time you're in this discord?

955
01:00:47.320 --> 01:00:51.639
Alex? Anyway, you know what
he wrote me? He's like, I'm

956
01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:55.880
not going to tell you. Second
thought, no, never mind, he

957
01:00:57.280 --> 01:01:00.360
just sent me a string of numbers. That was my only disconcerting Anyway,

958
01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:05.599
We're gonna go take a quick bricky
break and we'll be back with some video

959
01:01:05.599 --> 01:01:10.880
game news. Fuck you, No
one knows what is real anymore. No

960
01:01:10.880 --> 01:01:15.119
one knows what is fake. Uh. That was a fantastic demonstration of the

961
01:01:15.159 --> 01:01:20.000
abdominable muscles. Dan Reiker, thank
you, Thank you, Jeff Grab It's

962
01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:30.320
time for the news. This is
a news heard the show rch. Yeah,

963
01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:35.079
we got a yeah, welcome to
Verirch. Let us pray on a

964
01:01:35.119 --> 01:01:42.239
lot of news here, mostly this
Insomniac hack. Oh my god, they

965
01:01:42.280 --> 01:01:45.800
got fucking hack to hell. I
mean so, a ransomware group previously threatened

966
01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:51.880
PlayStations Insomniac Games. They claim to
have a lot of material. They proved

967
01:01:51.920 --> 01:01:53.679
that, and then they said they
were going to either put it out publicly

968
01:01:53.800 --> 01:01:59.199
or auction it off. This is
a crime. A lot of crimes happened

969
01:01:59.239 --> 01:02:02.840
here. They apparently hint their hinting
that they did actually end up auctioning off

970
01:02:02.880 --> 01:02:07.199
two percent of the materials. The
rest of the one point three million files

971
01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:13.639
have been uploaded online amounted to one
point six seven terabytes of data. On

972
01:02:13.679 --> 01:02:19.039
the dark web of like unreleased game
assets and suffered. So okay, so

973
01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:22.840
yeah, so let's talk about this
real quick. We're going to talk about

974
01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:24.199
some of the things that are in
this hack. It is a hack.

975
01:02:24.599 --> 01:02:28.679
There are like you go online right
now. I did. I saw the

976
01:02:28.679 --> 01:02:34.920
footage of early gameplay, footage of
Wolverine, early animation tests, things like

977
01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:37.039
that, there's a you know,
if you look in this dock here,

978
01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:42.199
I post some stuff for our purposes
of like of the the name of the

979
01:02:42.199 --> 01:02:44.679
new Venom game, or at least
the name as it is right now,

980
01:02:45.480 --> 01:02:46.920
and there's a Venom game. We're
going to talk about this stuff. It's

981
01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:50.920
news. We can't go around this. But again, it's hacked the source.

982
01:02:51.119 --> 01:02:53.960
It does make this a little bit
questionable, but it's out there.

983
01:02:53.960 --> 01:02:58.639
It's public data or public information.
We're going to discuss it. I'm not

984
01:02:58.679 --> 01:03:00.440
going to like point people to where
it's where they can go find the early

985
01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:05.679
animation test. Beyond saying that it's
out there, it doesn't really serve much

986
01:03:05.840 --> 01:03:08.360
much of a purpose to see those
things because it's so early. At very

987
01:03:08.440 --> 01:03:10.800
least I watched the animation test and
you could tell like, oh, this

988
01:03:10.880 --> 01:03:15.639
is a team having fun making stuff
for their coworkers, and then it's very

989
01:03:15.639 --> 01:03:16.440
easy to be like, man,
I feel bad that all this stuff is

990
01:03:16.440 --> 01:03:22.239
out there because they was clearly never
intended to be out correct. WHOA,

991
01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:24.119
so is this like I'm looking at
like the actual flow of a game and

992
01:03:24.159 --> 01:03:28.760
like boss fights and like that level
of so yes, so yeah, so

993
01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:34.159
there's some information about Wolverine. Again, the data that is probably worthy of

994
01:03:34.239 --> 01:03:36.880
discussing here. It is going to
come out in twenty twenty six, is

995
01:03:36.920 --> 01:03:39.400
what they're aiming for. They're in
the middle of developing it now. Before

996
01:03:39.440 --> 01:03:44.320
that, though, they will have
another game, Venom is going to be

997
01:03:44.320 --> 01:03:49.199
coming that's going to be a standalone
eight to ten hour experience that they're planning

998
01:03:49.239 --> 01:03:51.119
to put out. And again,
this is all this stuff could change.

999
01:03:51.199 --> 01:03:52.920
This is as it is internally,
and who knows actually when these documents are

1000
01:03:52.920 --> 01:03:55.679
from some of this stuff could already
be out of date. This is where

1001
01:03:55.679 --> 01:04:00.119
it's like hazardous to talk about some
of these things. Yeah, but you

1002
01:04:00.119 --> 01:04:02.119
know, if you're looking at like
the the at one point the roadmap did

1003
01:04:02.119 --> 01:04:09.559
include Spider Man two and then Wolverine
Spider Man three, and then they're gonna

1004
01:04:09.559 --> 01:04:12.440
make some X Men games. Down
the line, and then they're planning new

1005
01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:16.480
ips in like twenty thirty one and
twenty thirty five. That's how far into

1006
01:04:16.519 --> 01:04:23.639
the future they are planning. Right
now is granular detail of like business deals

1007
01:04:23.679 --> 01:04:27.559
and stuff too. That's so,
yes, so we do have exactly I'm

1008
01:04:27.559 --> 01:04:30.119
going to make this big so it's
easier for me to read. Yeah,

1009
01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:34.559
So they talk about getting the X
Men license and how much that that costs.

1010
01:04:34.559 --> 01:04:38.480
Like here, like this is where
it's like actually valuable because it helps

1011
01:04:38.519 --> 01:04:42.280
us better understand how the industry works. For example, the exclusivity deal,

1012
01:04:42.320 --> 01:04:45.840
where it's like, okay, between
now December thirty first, twenty thirty five,

1013
01:04:45.599 --> 01:04:49.000
Marvel cannot release or announce any X
Men games on console, PC and

1014
01:04:49.079 --> 01:04:54.440
streaming, or use X Men characters
as a competitive advantage in a game for

1015
01:04:54.480 --> 01:04:58.920
example, play as Wolverine and Ultimate
Alliance exclusively on Xbox. X Men characters

1016
01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:02.000
can appear in multi family Marvel games
like Avengers or Guardians of the Galaxy.

1017
01:05:02.199 --> 01:05:05.400
So that might date when this happened
when the deal went through, because those

1018
01:05:05.440 --> 01:05:09.639
games are now pretty old they wouldn't
be of concern, but the time of

1019
01:05:09.679 --> 01:05:14.039
this writing it clearly was. But
Marvel retains rights to children's games and certain

1020
01:05:14.199 --> 01:05:16.800
X Men games from the nineteen nineties, but they cannot release those or re

1021
01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:21.760
release them forty five days before or
after the release of Insomniac x Men games.

1022
01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:25.960
So it's like a good look at
how these deals actually get put together.

1023
01:05:27.360 --> 01:05:32.760
Yeah, this feels so like it
feels dirty looking at all this time,

1024
01:05:32.840 --> 01:05:38.039
isn't it. Yeah, so I
don't see anything. Yeah, exactly

1025
01:05:38.320 --> 01:05:40.679
all. You said that some of
it was being held for ransom. Is

1026
01:05:40.679 --> 01:05:43.400
it all out there or are they
still like threatening, like, oh,

1027
01:05:43.400 --> 01:05:45.639
we're gonna put out more stuff.
I think that they said two percent of

1028
01:05:45.679 --> 01:05:50.199
the data was sold off that I
don't know exactly what that was. That

1029
01:05:50.400 --> 01:05:55.639
the hackers did claim that they had
personal information of people who worked in Insomniac.

1030
01:05:56.320 --> 01:05:58.480
None of that stuff is I haven't
seen any of that stuff. I

1031
01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:01.880
haven't been looking for it either.
It's probably out there, But yeah,

1032
01:06:01.920 --> 01:06:05.079
in terms of like what was sold
off and what wasn't, my guess is

1033
01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:12.280
if something was sold off and it
wasn't the personal information, the source codes

1034
01:06:12.320 --> 01:06:15.480
for these games would be valuable to
the less scrupulous developers in some parts of

1035
01:06:15.519 --> 01:06:20.159
the world. That's happened before where
developers in China have bought the source codes

1036
01:06:20.239 --> 01:06:24.599
of games that were hacked and then
use that to make their games. The

1037
01:06:24.639 --> 01:06:27.159
big one I always remember is the
same time, would like the Half Life

1038
01:06:27.159 --> 01:06:29.800
two source code? Did anything ever
come of that? Where did people buy?

1039
01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:32.679
Did people use it? Or did
that just delayed development? I think

1040
01:06:32.679 --> 01:06:35.760
it just delayed development, But I
don't know. I've looked into that a

1041
01:06:35.760 --> 01:06:39.559
little bit before and I had the
same question, and I couldn't find any

1042
01:06:39.639 --> 01:06:42.760
exact thing that might have been.
But the world's very different now at this

1043
01:06:42.800 --> 01:06:45.360
point. It's so much easier to
make a game. Someone could take that

1044
01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:47.840
source code and maybe do something with
it or maybe not. Who knows how

1045
01:06:47.840 --> 01:06:50.039
it's actually going to go through.
Really, what this is going to do

1046
01:06:50.239 --> 01:06:54.599
is going to feel very bad for
the people whose job was to keep this

1047
01:06:54.679 --> 01:06:58.840
stuff secret so they could build a
marketing plan around it. And now it's

1048
01:06:58.880 --> 01:07:01.000
going to also put expectations on the
developer because they're going to get asked about

1049
01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:05.679
their X Men game that they haven't
officially announced or confirmed exists. So it's

1050
01:07:05.920 --> 01:07:09.679
that's going to be troublesome for them. But again, this information's public.

1051
01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:12.199
Let's try to put it in context. On this show, we'll try to

1052
01:07:12.239 --> 01:07:15.800
talk about it in a responsible way. This the Venom game. I think

1053
01:07:15.840 --> 01:07:19.039
we talked about it when we got
when we all talked about Spider Man two,

1054
01:07:19.400 --> 01:07:21.840
like, they're probably going to do
a Venom game as the next standalone,

1055
01:07:21.880 --> 01:07:26.840
expand alone game. That is what's
happening. They're planning that as an

1056
01:07:26.880 --> 01:07:30.280
eight to ten hour standalone experience,
twelve missions, that sort of thing.

1057
01:07:30.599 --> 01:07:33.159
Again, all that stuff could change, but it will. It will have

1058
01:07:33.280 --> 01:07:36.480
switchable Venom and the apparently the other
Spider Man will still be in the game,

1059
01:07:36.519 --> 01:07:41.679
but it will be called Venom.
So that's coming next year, which

1060
01:07:42.880 --> 01:07:46.360
I mean that seems like you just
kind of right, like it's just like

1061
01:07:46.440 --> 01:07:49.840
pasted on in the way that Morales
was. It's gonna be like Miles Morales.

1062
01:07:49.880 --> 01:07:51.679
Yeah, and I think that's a
really good way of doing that,

1063
01:07:51.760 --> 01:07:55.920
right. Playing his Venoms is a
lot of fun. So right, Miles

1064
01:07:55.920 --> 01:07:59.320
Marles feels like now he needs to
be part of the core Spider Man games

1065
01:07:59.400 --> 01:08:01.440
going forward, So how do you
expand it out? Yeah, Venoms is

1066
01:08:01.519 --> 01:08:04.199
right there, you do that.
That's how I felt when I was finished

1067
01:08:04.239 --> 01:08:06.280
with that game. I'm like,
I would like to play a standalone Venom

1068
01:08:06.280 --> 01:08:11.440
game. So, yeah, that's
pretty cool. There is some data about

1069
01:08:11.480 --> 01:08:15.199
like what they might do with Spider
Man three. I think the budget for

1070
01:08:15.279 --> 01:08:19.359
this is maybe the most astounding thing
in all of this data, or some

1071
01:08:19.399 --> 01:08:23.560
of the most astounding. For Spider
Man three, they're planning as a two

1072
01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:27.880
part game at four hundred million dollars
in terms of cost, that's how much

1073
01:08:27.880 --> 01:08:30.520
will cost to make it. There's
some more data about like how much games

1074
01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:33.000
cost and how much they need to
sell to recoup their costs. We'll get

1075
01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:36.199
into that in a little bit.
But yeah, so they would release part

1076
01:08:36.199 --> 01:08:39.880
one, and again, all these
things could change. Part one we're releasing

1077
01:08:39.920 --> 01:08:44.319
Holiday twenty twenty seven. Part two
would release Holiday twenty eight of Spider Man

1078
01:08:44.359 --> 01:08:46.880
three and then and both of those
would be fifty dollars each, or you

1079
01:08:46.880 --> 01:08:51.640
could buy always one like a combo
pack in twenty twenty nine for sixty dollars.

1080
01:08:51.840 --> 01:08:55.000
So, and they also were gonna
have a multiplayer thing. They have

1081
01:08:55.039 --> 01:08:58.680
a whole plan to do multiplayer games
for all of these games going forward,

1082
01:08:58.920 --> 01:09:01.239
So to be a multiplayer a Spider
Man or there's gonna be a multiplayer version

1083
01:09:01.239 --> 01:09:04.359
of the X Men games. Wolverine
all that stuff's happening as well, So

1084
01:09:04.359 --> 01:09:11.800
they have a lot happening over there. Insomniac, insane, I don't jeff

1085
01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:16.199
Mike Grubb, Yes, Jeffrey,
please sorry. I was the part of

1086
01:09:16.279 --> 01:09:18.600
Jeffer Mike. It's a really weird
thing to say, but now I'm afraid

1087
01:09:18.680 --> 01:09:24.079
you're gonna do it from now on, so I should say anything. Has

1088
01:09:24.079 --> 01:09:30.039
there ever been anything this granularly leaked? Yeah? I mean I don't think

1089
01:09:30.119 --> 01:09:33.159
this is notable, not for data
that is so current and future looking.

1090
01:09:33.560 --> 01:09:39.520
The Nintendo gigaleak is massive. It's
has so much data that people are still

1091
01:09:39.520 --> 01:09:42.359
going through it today. It's been
out for years. People are still coming

1092
01:09:42.359 --> 01:09:46.159
through it and finding stuff. But
that was like Nintendo documents going back for

1093
01:09:46.239 --> 01:09:48.920
decades. Uh, and so people
are like picking up things, Oh,

1094
01:09:48.920 --> 01:09:51.319
this is what happened with that game, and here's something that got mentioned there.

1095
01:09:51.760 --> 01:09:56.159
Uh. This is like uh,
the plans, And it's not just

1096
01:09:56.159 --> 01:09:59.720
for insomnment. There's data here on
like what's happening inside Gorilla a little bit,

1097
01:09:59.760 --> 01:10:01.520
and how PlayStation thinks about things and
things like that. So I don't

1098
01:10:01.960 --> 01:10:06.840
think there's ever been a hack quite
this comprehensive for current and future looking information.

1099
01:10:08.239 --> 01:10:11.239
Wait, so the Nintendo Giggleague theme
missed that being huge? Was that

1100
01:10:11.319 --> 01:10:15.079
like this level of like announcing future
games and asktal Again, there were some

1101
01:10:15.159 --> 01:10:17.039
of that stuff, but mostly it
was like data about oh, how they

1102
01:10:17.039 --> 01:10:20.439
made Super Mario Sunshine and stuff like
that. There's all kinds of stuff in

1103
01:10:20.479 --> 01:10:26.359
there, though, Okay, historically
valuable stuff that actually would have been like,

1104
01:10:26.399 --> 01:10:28.760
it's good to know, but again
it's a hack. That was a

1105
01:10:28.760 --> 01:10:31.119
hack as well, I believe,
and so it's like illegally sourced, which

1106
01:10:31.159 --> 01:10:35.720
is always a problem when you're trying
to cover these things. When Insomnia looks

1107
01:10:35.760 --> 01:10:38.920
at that, how it's when it's
making its games, like it's like,

1108
01:10:38.920 --> 01:10:41.159
okay, how much revenue are we
going to make? Their planning to make

1109
01:10:41.199 --> 01:10:45.479
one point seven billion dollars in revenue
from let's see here six games. That's

1110
01:10:45.520 --> 01:10:48.520
Miles Morales, Spider Man one,
remastered, Ratchet and Clank, Spider Man

1111
01:10:48.560 --> 01:10:53.880
two, Spider Man three, and
Wolverine. People are really looking at Ratchet

1112
01:10:53.880 --> 01:10:57.359
and Clank here because it lost eight
million dollars according to this chart. But

1113
01:10:57.399 --> 01:11:00.159
it's like hard to know if that
was a projection or actually how much it

1114
01:11:00.239 --> 01:11:02.840
lost in terms of like because we
can't date this this information. So again

1115
01:11:02.840 --> 01:11:06.279
it's like if you put this in
context, because what else is on here,

1116
01:11:08.000 --> 01:11:10.359
Spider Man three, Wolverine games that
haven't come out yet, So it

1117
01:11:10.359 --> 01:11:13.359
feels like all of these are projections. But they do list like how much

1118
01:11:13.399 --> 01:11:16.760
games need to sell in order to
break even. Miles Morales needed sell three

1119
01:11:16.800 --> 01:11:19.920
million copies, did way better than
that. Spider Man two needs to do

1120
01:11:19.960 --> 01:11:23.399
five point five, it'll do better
than that. Wolverring needs to do to

1121
01:11:23.479 --> 01:11:28.079
do for five, but like that's
the the scale at which PlayStation studios are

1122
01:11:28.079 --> 01:11:30.399
working. These games need to sell
five million copies or more to break even.

1123
01:11:30.760 --> 01:11:34.319
It's just so nuts that like these
are all just like like this is

1124
01:11:34.359 --> 01:11:36.880
not a very complicated chart, do
you know what I mean? Like,

1125
01:11:38.079 --> 01:11:41.800
yeah, I find it's something,
but it's not peculiar. It's just very

1126
01:11:41.840 --> 01:11:46.039
interesting. Like this is just like
a very simple chart with very simple numbers

1127
01:11:46.079 --> 01:11:50.600
on it, and it's there's really
not there's no like a method to the

1128
01:11:50.680 --> 01:11:53.840
madness really, right, I mean, this chart is the kind of thing

1129
01:11:53.840 --> 01:11:57.000
you hand to someone at the very
tippy top, right. This is not

1130
01:11:57.159 --> 01:12:01.079
for the actual finance personal act.
This is Zmila Games This is like the

1131
01:12:01.600 --> 01:12:08.600
simplified version of how they're making their
decisions. They talk a little bit about

1132
01:12:08.680 --> 01:12:13.840
like what PlayStation thinks about Microsoft acquiring
Activision. They said, it's elite frog

1133
01:12:13.880 --> 01:12:16.760
strategy, and this is data from
PlayStation, not just from Insomniac. It

1134
01:12:16.840 --> 01:12:21.359
says Activision provides incredible strategic value across
live service games, scale and mobile and

1135
01:12:21.439 --> 01:12:26.479
PC storefront with battle dot net.
In addition, Microsoft is building a mobile

1136
01:12:26.479 --> 01:12:29.039
game store to compete with Apple and
Google, and so this is how the

1137
01:12:29.319 --> 01:12:33.279
PlayStation views the threat. They also
have a lot of information here about like

1138
01:12:33.760 --> 01:12:39.000
how they're worried about Call of Duty
and how the shift of Microsoft taking that

1139
01:12:39.039 --> 01:12:42.520
over will affect things. But it's
stuff they've talked about in so many terms

1140
01:12:42.520 --> 01:12:44.760
before, but now we get a
little bit more information about how they think

1141
01:12:44.800 --> 01:12:49.479
about it. They also are worried
about the best way to frame and present

1142
01:12:49.640 --> 01:12:55.920
their subscription service. They said it's
an elusive perfect game subscription. Trying to

1143
01:12:55.920 --> 01:12:59.039
figure out what this actually looks like. They want to have premium content,

1144
01:12:59.840 --> 01:13:03.079
and they want to have a unified
sort of presence across mobile, PC and

1145
01:13:03.119 --> 01:13:06.880
console, but they also are worried
about how these things are going to impact

1146
01:13:06.880 --> 01:13:11.159
the sales of their premium games.
That's their biggest concern still, and they

1147
01:13:11.159 --> 01:13:14.479
don't really know how to solve that
when they're positioning themselves up against game Pass.

1148
01:13:14.640 --> 01:13:18.760
These are things they still talk about
in these in this content mostly though,

1149
01:13:18.760 --> 01:13:23.319
it's like, it's interesting to figure
out, Hey, okay, Insomniac

1150
01:13:23.520 --> 01:13:26.960
is thinking ten years ahead of time
and where we'll talk about the next Ratchet

1151
01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:30.760
and Clank game that is like twenty
twenty nine, but they're already planning it

1152
01:13:30.880 --> 01:13:33.920
right now today, and that is
six years in the future, and then

1153
01:13:33.920 --> 01:13:39.159
their new IP starts in twenty thirty
one. That's how long it takes to

1154
01:13:39.159 --> 01:13:42.760
start planning a game. These days, you are thinking almost a full decade

1155
01:13:42.760 --> 01:13:45.039
ahead of time. And for Insomniac, you're like, I believe they can

1156
01:13:45.079 --> 01:13:48.520
execute on this. But that's a
well managed, well organized studio. Imagine

1157
01:13:48.520 --> 01:13:51.680
what it must be like at a
studio that has a little bit more drama

1158
01:13:51.720 --> 01:13:56.760
happening internally, and you're not Insomniac
that's had three or four great hits in

1159
01:13:56.800 --> 01:13:59.479
a row. It's got to be
a little bit it's got to be a

1160
01:13:59.479 --> 01:14:02.640
lot more challenge, and I bet
it's still challenging for Insomniac as well.

1161
01:14:03.079 --> 01:14:06.159
Who knows what's gonna happen as a
result of these hacks. Who knows what's

1162
01:14:06.199 --> 01:14:10.199
if they're gonna change things up because
this stuff is public now, but a

1163
01:14:10.239 --> 01:14:12.800
lot of these things they're committed to. We're definitely gonna get X Men games

1164
01:14:12.840 --> 01:14:16.119
from them. How do you guys
feel about like more than a decade straight

1165
01:14:16.199 --> 01:14:20.359
of basically Marvel games and then a
Ratchet and Clay game from Insomniac. It's

1166
01:14:20.399 --> 01:14:25.680
wild to see how things have swayed
back into license ip right, Like I

1167
01:14:25.680 --> 01:14:28.800
feel like that's in a hard,
hard way, big distaste for like,

1168
01:14:28.960 --> 01:14:31.640
oh, this is a shitty licensed
Marvel game, Disney game, et cetera.

1169
01:14:32.600 --> 01:14:38.239
But then to see those games kind
of being major tent poles specifically for

1170
01:14:38.359 --> 01:14:43.960
Sony, right, like Spider Man
is bread and butter and it's hardcore associated

1171
01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:46.920
with Sony and PlayStation In my mind, now, yeah, I don't think

1172
01:14:47.079 --> 01:14:51.199
I don't think it's a one to
one comparison. But remember that meme of

1173
01:14:51.279 --> 01:14:58.279
like the Marvel the MCU phase like
three thing where like you see movies into

1174
01:14:58.319 --> 01:15:00.199
like the twenty forties and you're just
like, what the fuck they're gonna make

1175
01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:05.640
eighteen Doctor Strangers, like, and
my point being that they're not the same

1176
01:15:05.680 --> 01:15:09.159
because it's much easier to make a
movie than it is a video game or

1177
01:15:09.199 --> 01:15:11.760
a triple a video game like this, Like without a doubt, Yes,

1178
01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:16.399
that is an objective truth. I
don't know. But with that said,

1179
01:15:16.439 --> 01:15:21.159
like, the planning for games has
to be much more involved and conscious of,

1180
01:15:21.199 --> 01:15:25.720
like your time, because of how
long development does take. So I

1181
01:15:25.760 --> 01:15:30.159
do wonder if like any of this
would change. Obviously, when you look

1182
01:15:30.159 --> 01:15:34.439
at that MCU meme, there's dozens
of things that are just not happening anymore,

1183
01:15:34.479 --> 01:15:39.840
right, Like things go and change
and they move around. At the

1184
01:15:39.840 --> 01:15:43.079
same time, there's you know,
there's only like ten games here, right

1185
01:15:43.439 --> 01:15:45.000
because of how long it takes to
make a video game. So you gotta

1186
01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:48.640
imagine like starts spreading out to like
we like, game after game from them

1187
01:15:48.720 --> 01:15:50.920
a couple years in a row.
What turns out that's not going to last

1188
01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:56.960
forever? Right exactly? Uh,
It's it's wild. It's absolutely wild.

1189
01:15:58.199 --> 01:16:00.720
I just feel so bad for everyone
in it, Insomniac and like that.

1190
01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:08.039
I'm not advocating for cyber attacks on
anyone, but why Insomniac. Yeah,

1191
01:16:09.640 --> 01:16:13.680
there's any reason that I, you
know, I don't know. I also

1192
01:16:14.680 --> 01:16:20.439
maybe I'm foolishly cautiously optimistic. I
don't know. Again, like obviously there's

1193
01:16:20.439 --> 01:16:28.880
compromises here that cannot be unseen and
cannot be undone. I think I hope

1194
01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:32.920
that ultimately the the end is sort
of like gross of it all doesn't change

1195
01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:36.920
the sort of outcome of like how
things would go. I think you could

1196
01:16:36.960 --> 01:16:41.840
say probably something similar about like something
like that GTA six trailer getting leaked or

1197
01:16:41.960 --> 01:16:45.039
like, sure, I'm not sure
how much that actually does move the needle,

1198
01:16:46.760 --> 01:16:51.159
And I hope, you know,
Insomniac experiences a similar sort of non

1199
01:16:51.239 --> 01:16:57.479
turbulent future with this. But man, that's it's it's bummer. Yeah,

1200
01:16:57.920 --> 01:17:00.840
I also feel bad for the studio. It's it's going to cause a lot

1201
01:17:00.840 --> 01:17:04.960
of headaches, especially at the end
of the year. Yeah, getting hacked

1202
01:17:05.520 --> 01:17:11.359
must be a terrible experience. I
don't know the final the final couple of

1203
01:17:11.399 --> 01:17:15.680
things here. If we're looking at
like costs to make a Getting Spider Man

1204
01:17:15.720 --> 01:17:18.279
two cost three hundred and fifteen million
dollars. Now, I don't know if

1205
01:17:18.319 --> 01:17:23.000
that's just development costs and also marketing, but even if it is, it's

1206
01:17:23.039 --> 01:17:26.680
like, that is a huge number. This is why we are getting what

1207
01:17:26.720 --> 01:17:30.359
we are getting from game developers and
publishers these days, because you look at

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01:17:30.399 --> 01:17:32.079
how much it costs to make a
game that can perform as well as Spider

1209
01:17:32.119 --> 01:17:35.319
Man two, and you're like,
Okay, we're gonna have to spend two

1210
01:17:35.399 --> 01:17:39.800
hundred to three hundred and fifteen million
dollars And they're planning to spend three hundred

1211
01:17:39.800 --> 01:17:42.119
and eighty five million dollars making Spider
Man three. By the way, they

1212
01:17:42.239 --> 01:17:45.800
have that listed, so it's going
to be even more. And you look

1213
01:17:45.800 --> 01:17:47.399
at that number, you're like,
Okay, how much money on top of

1214
01:17:47.399 --> 01:17:51.720
that would it cost to turn a
new IP into something that is as valuable

1215
01:17:51.760 --> 01:17:55.840
and as capable of selling well as
Spider Man? And they look at the

1216
01:17:55.920 --> 01:17:59.680
numbers and it just doesn't make sense. So if you are getting a little

1217
01:17:59.680 --> 01:18:01.520
bit sick of big ips and you
want these studios that you love to go

1218
01:18:01.560 --> 01:18:05.319
back to making original ips, it
might be time to look at it and

1219
01:18:05.319 --> 01:18:10.399
be like, that seems more unlikely
than ever. They are sure they're planning

1220
01:18:10.399 --> 01:18:14.079
to make a new IP in the
twenty thirties, like yeah forever, which

1221
01:18:14.159 --> 01:18:18.760
is that? Yeah, that could
change you know, I do think games

1222
01:18:18.840 --> 01:18:24.119
have the advantage of the space between
right. I do think where like you

1223
01:18:24.159 --> 01:18:28.319
are again back to that MCU thing
where you are you know, it happened

1224
01:18:28.399 --> 01:18:31.760
right like there was a Marvel overload, where like you know, we experienced

1225
01:18:31.800 --> 01:18:39.560
that fatigue. The gap in between
games is time allows for there to be

1226
01:18:40.319 --> 01:18:46.239
a recharged interest. I think,
yeah, but this it's just I guess

1227
01:18:46.279 --> 01:18:50.680
at the end of the day,
the the the budgets don't surprise me really,

1228
01:18:50.760 --> 01:18:54.319
I think, like, I mean, we had the sense that they

1229
01:18:54.319 --> 01:18:56.960
were above two hundred million for a
while. Now the fact that they're over

1230
01:18:57.000 --> 01:19:00.279
three hundred million after years after hearing
two hundred million, of course they are

1231
01:19:00.399 --> 01:19:02.880
sure, yeah, yeah. The
good news for Sony is they're pretty good

1232
01:19:02.880 --> 01:19:05.159
at picking the winners and the ones
that are going to make them back their

1233
01:19:05.199 --> 01:19:10.039
money. You know, God of
War and Last of Us. Those games

1234
01:19:10.039 --> 01:19:13.359
also are two hundred, two hundred
and fifty million dollar projects. And sure

1235
01:19:13.359 --> 01:19:16.439
they aren't as profitable as Something's because
they are so expensive, but they're still

1236
01:19:16.560 --> 01:19:20.680
very profitable. It seems like,
yeah, based on these results, and

1237
01:19:20.720 --> 01:19:29.560
I totally understand people's disposition to insomniac
being quote unquote stuck making license games.

1238
01:19:29.560 --> 01:19:31.800
But the thing is, I if
it were any other studio, I trust

1239
01:19:31.840 --> 01:19:36.119
Insomniac the most to flip it around
and make something amazing out of it.

1240
01:19:36.520 --> 01:19:41.439
You know, back while you've talked
about MCU fatigue and I've beat this drama

1241
01:19:41.479 --> 01:19:45.520
bunch, that giant fan of Marvel
and all that jazz. The movies have

1242
01:19:45.600 --> 01:19:49.239
absolutely bored me over the last couple
of years, you know, like I

1243
01:19:49.239 --> 01:19:54.840
didn't think I'd ever experienced a fatigue, and I was really latching onto all

1244
01:19:54.840 --> 01:19:58.560
those Disney Plus shows. But I
can't bring myself to watch Secret Invasion.

1245
01:19:58.880 --> 01:20:02.680
Didn't even I didn't finish a Loki
season two. I didn't start it.

1246
01:20:02.960 --> 01:20:06.279
Don't quite care for any of the
upcoming releases. But when it's like a

1247
01:20:06.319 --> 01:20:11.239
Marvel game from Insomniac, you know, I want to be like day one,

1248
01:20:12.600 --> 01:20:15.159
especially if you know they might feature
my you know, the best X

1249
01:20:15.239 --> 01:20:19.720
Men soon, you know, I
think they make them. I mean,

1250
01:20:19.720 --> 01:20:23.600
listen, if they're making the Wolverine
game, then you make side Clops his

1251
01:20:23.720 --> 01:20:28.600
sort of foil, like the friend
that is also the rival in the X

1252
01:20:28.640 --> 01:20:30.920
Men games. I think that's the
way to do it, especially since apparently

1253
01:20:31.680 --> 01:20:35.439
this is the one small, very
tiny spoiler that shouldn't be surprising anyone.

1254
01:20:35.520 --> 01:20:39.000
Jean Gray is going to be a
big part of the Wolverine game. Woo.

1255
01:20:39.960 --> 01:20:43.399
So you take that into the X
Men games and yeah, right there,

1256
01:20:43.399 --> 01:20:45.920
you got to have your love triangle
ready to go. The other slide

1257
01:20:45.920 --> 01:20:50.239
here where they talk about their multiplayer
ambitions. They according to this chart,

1258
01:20:50.319 --> 01:20:55.760
they've been working on their multiplayer architecture
for the last three years, and the

1259
01:20:55.760 --> 01:21:00.199
intention is in twenty twenty four to
launch spider Man two Online, and then

1260
01:21:00.239 --> 01:21:04.640
in twenty twenty six they will have
Wolverine Online, and then in twenty twenty

1261
01:21:04.680 --> 01:21:08.600
eight and this is like that will
be like so multiplayer one point oh will

1262
01:21:08.600 --> 01:21:11.760
be spider Man two Online, then
they will update that with multi multiplayer two

1263
01:21:11.760 --> 01:21:15.760
point zero in Wolverine Online, and
then they will have a multiplayer three point

1264
01:21:15.800 --> 01:21:18.399
zero. No details about what that
means. I guess we can imagine multiplayer

1265
01:21:18.399 --> 01:21:24.359
three point zero with x Men Online
in twenty twenty eight. So they are

1266
01:21:25.039 --> 01:21:30.960
their plan is make these big tent
pole blockbuster games and then their multiplayer slash

1267
01:21:30.640 --> 01:21:36.359
live service question Mark games will be
multiplayer modes in these massive games. Now

1268
01:21:38.159 --> 01:21:40.600
we were just talking about Hey,
a Spider Verse game. This seems like

1269
01:21:40.680 --> 01:21:42.920
Spider Verse was probably just a code
name for this stuff. I mean,

1270
01:21:42.960 --> 01:21:46.840
they do have like a Spider Man
the Great Web. Then here in some

1271
01:21:46.880 --> 01:21:50.520
of the documentation exactly what that is, I'm not sure, but yeah,

1272
01:21:50.520 --> 01:21:53.560
it seems like this is going to
be Their big plan is to have these

1273
01:21:53.560 --> 01:21:57.399
two forks of the big tenpole games, and then multiplayer modes for those games

1274
01:21:57.640 --> 01:22:01.760
as updates that come out later.
So all right, I don't know any

1275
01:22:01.760 --> 01:22:05.520
other thoughts on Insomniac before we move
on. Guys, can you imagine planning

1276
01:22:05.600 --> 01:22:10.760
your life ten years ahead of time? I can't even plan two days forward

1277
01:22:10.840 --> 01:22:14.119
or backward? Amen? Brother?
Yeah, yeah, I don't like seeing

1278
01:22:14.159 --> 01:22:19.159
these things like printed anywhere. That's
upsetting. Please make it go away.

1279
01:22:20.399 --> 01:22:25.159
All right? Hey, Suicide Suicide
Squad spoilers are out there, and I

1280
01:22:25.199 --> 01:22:29.199
saw some people getting upset about this. But guess what the Suicide Squad spoilers

1281
01:22:29.199 --> 01:22:32.079
are for the subtitle being killed the
Justice League. Guess who dies in the

1282
01:22:32.079 --> 01:22:38.000
game the spoilers. So yeah,
avoid them. But if you think,

1283
01:22:38.079 --> 01:22:40.399
hey, oh my god, Batman
dies in this game, that's such a

1284
01:22:40.399 --> 01:22:44.119
spoiler, I bet there's more to
the story than that that stuff like audio

1285
01:22:44.279 --> 01:22:47.079
and some clips are getting out there
of these moments, So if you want

1286
01:22:47.079 --> 01:22:50.600
to avoid how they happen, that
do that. And then there is no

1287
01:22:50.640 --> 01:22:54.800
information about like, oh, well, Batman's probably gonna come back or maybe

1288
01:22:54.800 --> 01:22:58.439
you won't. I don't know,
but the full story's not out there.

1289
01:22:58.479 --> 01:23:00.920
So yeah, if you want to
avoid some spoiler, they're out there,

1290
01:23:00.960 --> 01:23:05.119
but avoided. In the words of
the great timre Hussein, grow Up,

1291
01:23:05.520 --> 01:23:11.399
Grow Up Indeed. Of City and
co founder has talked about getting rejected from

1292
01:23:11.399 --> 01:23:16.039
when he pitched Elder Scrolls spinoffs to
Bethesda. Of Cidyan has proposed multiple times

1293
01:23:16.039 --> 01:23:19.680
to develop more Fallout games and the
Elder scroll spinoffs, but were rejected by

1294
01:23:19.720 --> 01:23:24.880
Bethesda. The last mainline Fallout game
was twenty fifteens Fallout four, and the

1295
01:23:24.880 --> 01:23:29.479
most recent non mobile series entry was
twenty eight teens online multiplayer title Fallout seventy

1296
01:23:29.479 --> 01:23:31.800
six. Todd Howard said in twenty
twenty one that he would be hesitant to

1297
01:23:31.840 --> 01:23:36.760
outsource Fallout five. Howard reiterated last
year that Fallout five remained behind Elder Scroll

1298
01:23:36.800 --> 01:23:42.079
six in the studio's production queue,
but apparently Bubsidian was like, hey,

1299
01:23:42.159 --> 01:23:44.479
we'll do that. We'll take that
on. In the past, this hasn't

1300
01:23:44.479 --> 01:23:45.840
happened recently, but in the past
they were like, hey, we'll pitch

1301
01:23:45.920 --> 01:23:49.199
this, We'll do this within the
Elder Scrolls or Fallout, and it's been

1302
01:23:49.319 --> 01:23:53.720
very hard to get. It's seemingly
Todd Howard, but all Bethesda to be

1303
01:23:53.720 --> 01:23:57.119
like, we're okay with that.
It seems especially true of the Elder Scrolls.

1304
01:23:59.119 --> 01:24:00.479
This doesn't make a ton of sense
at a certain point, but that

1305
01:24:00.560 --> 01:24:02.640
is this going to have to let
someone else make a Fallout or else.

1306
01:24:02.640 --> 01:24:05.960
We're not going to get a new
Fallout game until like twenty forty, so

1307
01:24:06.720 --> 01:24:11.079
I'm not exactly sure what they're thinking
here. Obsidian seems like a good choice

1308
01:24:11.079 --> 01:24:15.920
for this, especially these days.
That's a quality studio video footage vs.

1309
01:24:15.960 --> 01:24:19.880
Footage of Mario sixty four's two player
modes showed up recently. This is from

1310
01:24:20.119 --> 01:24:25.319
a Space World show from nineteen ninety
five, and it has a glimpse of

1311
01:24:25.319 --> 01:24:29.680
what looks like possibly Luigi or maybe
just the color was shifting on a second

1312
01:24:29.680 --> 01:24:32.119
Mario character, but there were two
Mario characters running around on the screen at

1313
01:24:32.119 --> 01:24:35.439
the same time. This is something
that Mimotos had talked about being a part

1314
01:24:35.479 --> 01:24:39.800
of the game early on and then
they removed. But you can actually see

1315
01:24:39.800 --> 01:24:42.880
a quick glimpse of this for the
first time ever, and it's from a

1316
01:24:43.000 --> 01:24:47.119
video from what almost twenty eight years
ago. Split screen or is it on

1317
01:24:47.159 --> 01:24:49.399
the name two Mario's on the screen
at the same time. I would have

1318
01:24:49.439 --> 01:24:53.960
been fucked up, exactly. Fucked
up is what I think, too,

1319
01:24:55.279 --> 01:24:58.960
Like is there like an invisible wall
that happens or could Luigi go all?

1320
01:24:59.039 --> 01:25:00.720
We have to figure it out.
There's problems. This is why probably why

1321
01:25:00.720 --> 01:25:03.319
they cut it right. They probably
not have their solutions to all those issues.

1322
01:25:04.399 --> 01:25:06.640
That's also a game they made,
and we mentioned this on Game Last

1323
01:25:06.680 --> 01:25:10.920
Mornings, but that's a game they
made in like eighteen months, a year

1324
01:25:10.920 --> 01:25:14.439
and a half smow right here,
So you're right. So it's like they

1325
01:25:14.439 --> 01:25:17.640
were probably like any sort of thing
that presents a lot of problems that we

1326
01:25:17.680 --> 01:25:20.600
need to solve, fucking cut it, get it out of here. Let's

1327
01:25:20.640 --> 01:25:24.399
just focus on the stuff that's right
in front of us that's going to make

1328
01:25:24.439 --> 01:25:27.960
this game the most fun right away. And thankfully they had that stuff figured

1329
01:25:27.960 --> 01:25:30.479
out. Great game. I don't
I still don't know how two players in

1330
01:25:30.520 --> 01:25:33.760
a three d environment on the same
screen happened. I was gonna ask y'all

1331
01:25:33.960 --> 01:25:38.720
because I'm not as well versed with
Mario sixty four, but does that game

1332
01:25:39.159 --> 01:25:42.960
feel like it'd be okay with the
second person? I mean, the only

1333
01:25:43.039 --> 01:25:45.880
things like I'm the person I've thought
about it, but like em actually like

1334
01:25:45.960 --> 01:25:47.920
King Babom the first Star, Like
you know, Luigi's over here, like

1335
01:25:47.920 --> 01:25:50.760
hey, King Bbom, and Mario's
getting behind him and grabbing him instead of

1336
01:25:50.800 --> 01:25:54.199
having to do a weird flip or
run around. You know, like there's

1337
01:25:54.279 --> 01:25:58.359
elements that could be fun. Like
if they announced that some fucked up two

1338
01:25:58.359 --> 01:26:00.840
player Marius four is coming to switch
on like tomorrow, I would absolutely jump

1339
01:26:00.880 --> 01:26:04.760
out there and even see it like
Sandboxy fund too, we both get make

1340
01:26:04.840 --> 01:26:12.319
our own race or whatever and then
not yeah exactly right away, race to

1341
01:26:12.359 --> 01:26:14.800
see who can get eight red coins
first, Like okay, remember, there's

1342
01:26:14.800 --> 01:26:17.119
some things that could be fun there. Yeah, yeah, exactly. H

1343
01:26:17.399 --> 01:26:20.960
elder Ring DLC is possibly coming soon. According to a retail listing, elder

1344
01:26:21.039 --> 01:26:25.680
Ring's first expansion, Shadow of the
urg Tree, could release in February.

1345
01:26:25.960 --> 01:26:30.199
The listing was uploaded by retailer data
Blits and has since been pulled. However,

1346
01:26:30.239 --> 01:26:33.680
it included details of it upcoming elder
Ring theme controller from thrust Master.

1347
01:26:34.159 --> 01:26:38.199
The controllers were said to be released
in February twenty twenty four to two.

1348
01:26:38.600 --> 01:26:42.159
And this is a quote sync with
the new Shadow of the Ur Tree expansion

1349
01:26:42.199 --> 01:26:47.920
release and elder Ring's second anniversary that
normally, when these things get entered into

1350
01:26:47.960 --> 01:26:50.960
retail sites, it's easy to ignore
because it's probably someoneho doesn't know what they're

1351
01:26:51.000 --> 01:26:56.199
talking about. But this seems more
plausible just based on having that controller attached

1352
01:26:56.199 --> 01:26:59.560
to it and saying that the reason
for the release timing was sinking with the

1353
01:26:59.560 --> 01:27:03.640
expansion, and also February seems a
perfectly reasonable time to release an expansion for

1354
01:27:03.960 --> 01:27:08.000
elder Ring. I've been I've been
waiting. Let's let's make it happen.

1355
01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:11.359
I'm too scared. I'm not ready
to go back in that world. I'm

1356
01:27:11.399 --> 01:27:16.039
ready. I'm ready to take my
life. Yeah, we haven't heard much

1357
01:27:16.039 --> 01:27:19.319
about Shadow of the ar Tree for
a while since they announced it. I

1358
01:27:19.359 --> 01:27:23.239
thought it would showed up at the
Kills, so if the fact that it

1359
01:27:23.239 --> 01:27:26.640
wasn't there does make me question this. But they could announce that dang and

1360
01:27:26.680 --> 01:27:29.279
release it a month later. Yeah, ever, it doesn't matter, it

1361
01:27:29.319 --> 01:27:30.880
does. It does not matter.
They could still announce it and release it

1362
01:27:30.920 --> 01:27:36.359
in February. We'll see though.
Last couple of stories here. Activision Blizzard

1363
01:27:36.359 --> 01:27:41.439
has to pay fifty more fifty four
million dollars to settle its discrimination lawsuit.

1364
01:27:41.680 --> 01:27:45.399
Activision Bliter will pay that fifty four
million dollars settlement to end a twenty twenty

1365
01:27:45.399 --> 01:27:49.000
one sex discrimination lawsuit. The publisher, which was acquired by Microsoft in October,

1366
01:27:49.399 --> 01:27:54.199
entered into an agreement with the California
Civil Rights Department to settle the case,

1367
01:27:54.439 --> 01:27:58.840
which was related to claims of unequal
compensation and promotion practices on the basis

1368
01:27:58.840 --> 01:28:01.199
of sex from twenty fifteen to twenty
twenty, so just five years of a

1369
01:28:01.199 --> 01:28:05.640
little sex discrimination. Activision Blister will
pay as much as forty six point seventy

1370
01:28:05.640 --> 01:28:11.600
five million of that money to female
employees who claim they received in inequitable pay

1371
01:28:11.880 --> 01:28:15.359
during this period. Might sounds like
a lot, it's really a slap on

1372
01:28:15.399 --> 01:28:19.119
the wrist. Not even that.
If you look at like comparable cases,

1373
01:28:19.239 --> 01:28:25.000
Riot Studio that is half the size, has half the employees had to pay

1374
01:28:25.039 --> 01:28:27.840
twice as much. They had to
pay one hundred million dollars, and there

1375
01:28:27.840 --> 01:28:30.479
was complaints about that not being enough. So fifty four million dollars for Activision

1376
01:28:30.520 --> 01:28:33.840
is a very small number. They
basically got away with a speeding ticket here,

1377
01:28:34.359 --> 01:28:38.279
but hey, that's Bobbykottock's wholemo,
always getting away with things. So

1378
01:28:38.560 --> 01:28:41.800
yeah, as part of this,
they also said, oh, there's no

1379
01:28:43.000 --> 01:28:47.000
evidence of wrongdoing by Bobby Kottock or
the board of directors. Sure, sure

1380
01:28:47.039 --> 01:28:49.880
there is, and that was part
of the settlement agreement. So it was

1381
01:28:49.920 --> 01:28:55.479
like very important to Bobby Coottock that
they said that. Ohly shit, Yeah,

1382
01:28:55.479 --> 01:28:58.840
it's it's pretty frustrating. This is
one of the reasons to be optimistic

1383
01:28:58.840 --> 01:29:00.800
about the Microsoft takeovers, like maybe
things will get a little bit better.

1384
01:29:01.319 --> 01:29:04.600
Bobby Kottock is out at the end
of this year. Does that include drub

1385
01:29:04.920 --> 01:29:10.640
I don't know if you know former
employees as well. Yes, it's anyone

1386
01:29:10.640 --> 01:29:13.920
that worked there during that period,
and includes contractors as well, so not

1387
01:29:13.960 --> 01:29:17.199
just employees but also contractors. If
you were a woman contracted to work at

1388
01:29:17.279 --> 01:29:21.680
Activision Blizzard from twenty fifteen to twenty
twenty, there's a way to get some

1389
01:29:21.720 --> 01:29:26.079
of this money. If that's the
case. Fifty four million is way too

1390
01:29:26.119 --> 01:29:29.159
low. Yes, exactly, it's
going. Yeah, it's not going to

1391
01:29:29.199 --> 01:29:32.720
go very far at all. Let's
see here. Max Pain voice actor James

1392
01:29:32.760 --> 01:29:36.479
occaffrey has passed away. James McCaffrey, renowned for his role as Max Pain

1393
01:29:36.600 --> 01:29:40.520
in the iconic gaming series, passed
away at the age of sixty five.

1394
01:29:40.960 --> 01:29:44.319
McCaffrey, who lent his voice and
likeness to the Max Pain character across three

1395
01:29:44.359 --> 01:29:47.800
games. That's mistyped, he wrote, just the Voice, reported lost his

1396
01:29:47.840 --> 01:29:51.880
battle with cancer on Sunday. Mcaffrey's
talent extended to Remedies Game Control, where

1397
01:29:51.920 --> 01:29:57.720
he portrayed the Federal Bureau of Control
Director Zachariah Trench. His performances have left

1398
01:29:57.760 --> 01:30:01.560
in enduring mark in the gaming community. Remedy also confirmed this and said they

1399
01:30:01.560 --> 01:30:05.520
were sorry to hear the news and
wrote a really nice message about James McCaffrey.

1400
01:30:05.880 --> 01:30:11.119
McCaffrey was sixty five. Uh that
does it for the news though,

1401
01:30:11.159 --> 01:30:14.920
boys, So I'm hitting the show
back over to you. Jan Oh boy,

1402
01:30:15.079 --> 01:30:18.439
what a what a doozy to end
the news segment on Yeah, sorry

1403
01:30:18.439 --> 01:30:20.800
about that, but yeah, shout
out to James McAffrey. Shout to James

1404
01:30:20.880 --> 01:30:27.319
McCaffrey. Go play Allen wake too
and celebrate Hisson fantastic work. It's Alex

1405
01:30:27.359 --> 01:30:30.199
Casey does the voice of Alex Casey. Very good, very good, and

1406
01:30:30.399 --> 01:30:33.560
uh to his voice. You know
what is that? It's not a moan?

1407
01:30:33.880 --> 01:30:39.279
Was it a growl? It's a
growl, A growl, a growl?

1408
01:30:40.119 --> 01:30:44.399
Yeah like that? Where wow they
got it? You get that vocal

1409
01:30:44.479 --> 01:30:49.800
fry? Yeah, it's the fry. Yeah. My feet bloody and what

1410
01:30:51.039 --> 01:30:57.479
all it's souring? Oh wait,
I'm not finished. There you are and

1411
01:30:57.520 --> 01:31:01.000
there you are. Another break and
we'll be back with some emails. After

1412
01:31:01.159 --> 01:31:06.079
a quick breaking break, go go
take a one minute nap. Challenge starts

1413
01:31:06.159 --> 01:31:15.399
now. Wakey, wakey, It's
time to read some emails. Please.

1414
01:31:15.960 --> 01:31:21.760
Emails for verch verch verch dot org
now apparently leads to giant bomb dot com

1415
01:31:21.760 --> 01:31:28.640
slash chat. So welcome to our
service. We're here today to read to

1416
01:31:28.720 --> 01:31:34.199
you emails. The electronic variety BombCast
A Giant Bomb is the email address to

1417
01:31:34.199 --> 01:31:39.760
send your emails to. I appreciate
every single email, whether or not you

1418
01:31:39.840 --> 01:31:43.279
sign us up for a spad list
or not, or for whatever reason we're

1419
01:31:43.319 --> 01:31:49.199
still on or we've wound up on
or still on a longerie email distribution thing.

1420
01:31:50.720 --> 01:31:56.600
So yeah, that's cool. I
guess uh. First, love,

1421
01:31:56.680 --> 01:32:00.680
a good push up bra, a
magic bra, whatever you want to call

1422
01:32:00.720 --> 01:32:05.359
it, A good Lacey number,
a good Lacy number, A good Lacey

1423
01:32:05.439 --> 01:32:10.079
number reminds me. Never mind,
I'm not going to finish that sentence.

1424
01:32:10.840 --> 01:32:15.159
First email comes from Reza, Hey, GB crew, merry xmus and Happy

1425
01:32:15.199 --> 01:32:19.079
New Year. Got some questions that
needs an E needs an needs either and

1426
01:32:19.239 --> 01:32:24.560
I do or I don't. Number
one, brushing teeth in the shower.

1427
01:32:26.279 --> 01:32:30.439
I don't. I do occasionally.
Situational, right, yeah, situational.

1428
01:32:30.720 --> 01:32:33.560
Never have I done it ever?
Really, I don't think it's that weird

1429
01:32:33.600 --> 01:32:35.840
the idea of it, but I
don't think I've ever done it. I

1430
01:32:35.960 --> 01:32:41.199
just I get. I just don't
understand why, Like are you is time

1431
01:32:41.399 --> 01:32:44.720
that much of a crunch. I
don't think you're time. Yeah, Like

1432
01:32:45.039 --> 01:32:47.520
things, I shaved my head in
the shower because then it's like, well,

1433
01:32:47.560 --> 01:32:50.399
the little hair things go into the
train. There's like a functional reason

1434
01:32:50.560 --> 01:32:55.920
literally things. Yeah it's not even
they're not even hair, they're just doubble,

1435
01:32:56.000 --> 01:32:58.880
you know. Yeah, yeah,
but at least the shower makes the

1436
01:32:58.920 --> 01:33:02.800
cleanup make more sense. Get the
toothbrushing. I don't really get the functional

1437
01:33:03.000 --> 01:33:06.119
part of it. Sometimes I just
want to spit all over yourself. Yeah,

1438
01:33:06.439 --> 01:33:11.199
that's what I'm saying. Like there'd
be no way that I wouldn't do

1439
01:33:11.279 --> 01:33:15.600
that and therefore would feel insane.
I want to avoid that. That's why

1440
01:33:15.680 --> 01:33:17.279
I limit it. But yeah,
sometimes you know what it is. It's

1441
01:33:17.319 --> 01:33:19.680
like when I'm like really tired,
but I stole for some reason, feel

1442
01:33:19.800 --> 01:33:23.000
need to take a shower before bed
because it was like a busy, long

1443
01:33:23.079 --> 01:33:25.239
day and I'm like, you know, I'll just get this ship out of

1444
01:33:25.239 --> 01:33:27.720
the way, clean my clean,
my mouth, clean my body, get

1445
01:33:27.760 --> 01:33:30.000
the bed right away. It doesn't. It doesn't happen very frequently. It

1446
01:33:30.199 --> 01:33:34.319
seems like overkill it, you know, question on his list. But I

1447
01:33:35.359 --> 01:33:40.079
don't pee in the shower, and
I feel like I'm the weird one out

1448
01:33:40.119 --> 01:33:44.960
now. I mean feel everywhere,
man, Yeah, like no matter where

1449
01:33:45.000 --> 01:33:48.560
I'm going, I'm pissing. No. I think pissing in the shower is

1450
01:33:48.600 --> 01:33:55.840
fine because I also get activated by
warm water, Like I can't not if

1451
01:33:55.840 --> 01:34:00.640
it's just like association of that place. We shouldn't have a bad news to

1452
01:34:00.680 --> 01:34:03.840
beer around backlark. I'm just saying
no warm water, like that's the thing.

1453
01:34:03.880 --> 01:34:08.920
It makes everyone want to pee if
you uh, if you're if you're

1454
01:34:08.960 --> 01:34:11.600
not pissing in the shower. If
I'm not pissing in the shower, I'm

1455
01:34:11.680 --> 01:34:15.680
actively like holding it in and like
I'm compromising the integrity of the shower.

1456
01:34:16.279 --> 01:34:19.800
So I don't want to do that
at all. In defense of brushing your

1457
01:34:19.800 --> 01:34:24.800
teeth in the shower, sometimes you
have to leave conditioner or shampoo in,

1458
01:34:25.399 --> 01:34:28.520
right, and maybe you very sudds
up your body, so you got all

1459
01:34:28.520 --> 01:34:31.920
that time to kill of letting the
conditioners set. I realized this is a

1460
01:34:31.960 --> 01:34:35.119
problem that somebody wouldn't I don't know
that I do with the beard. I

1461
01:34:35.119 --> 01:34:38.479
put the conditioner in the beard first
because bigger. Then I can just sit

1462
01:34:38.479 --> 01:34:41.279
in there the whole rest of the
shower. Yeah sure, yeah, yeah,

1463
01:34:41.279 --> 01:34:45.159
sure all right. Number two,
finishing the last bite of food for

1464
01:34:45.319 --> 01:34:48.760
your partners slash kids plate instead of
throwing it away when they can't finish.

1465
01:34:48.960 --> 01:34:53.079
This is why I'm fat, Yes, this is this is why I'm chubby.

1466
01:34:53.439 --> 01:34:56.840
This is like fifteen pounds of my
overweightness right here. Yeah. I'll

1467
01:34:57.000 --> 01:35:00.359
only do it if it's something I
want, Like if it's just like if

1468
01:35:00.399 --> 01:35:03.520
it's something I don't want, I
let it go. Sure, but like

1469
01:35:03.640 --> 01:35:06.239
yeah, I mean, i'd say
half the time I'm grabbing. It's like,

1470
01:35:06.279 --> 01:35:09.640
for sure, the last three bites
of their girl cheese sandwich, I

1471
01:35:09.720 --> 01:35:11.840
might not eat all, but I'll
take a couple more bites of that.

1472
01:35:12.119 --> 01:35:15.159
Sometimes if there's something that looks real
good, I'll take a big old jeff

1473
01:35:15.239 --> 01:35:18.520
bite out of it. You know. Here's the thing. Emmy will walk

1474
01:35:18.600 --> 01:35:21.279
up to me sometimes not even asking
to me, like hey, finish this,

1475
01:35:21.319 --> 01:35:25.560
and then shoves a spoon into my
mouth and suddenly I'm eating half a

1476
01:35:25.600 --> 01:35:28.239
bowl of rice, and I'm like, I'm looking at her. This is

1477
01:35:28.279 --> 01:35:31.039
why I can't. You're just you're
just the garbage and sposal that that's what

1478
01:35:31.119 --> 01:35:35.079
she tells me, You're just the
dumpster. She's like, all, my

1479
01:35:35.119 --> 01:35:40.199
little raccoon, eat the garbage guy. I'd rather drop this in you than

1480
01:35:40.279 --> 01:35:44.119
the trash. So here it is
these terms of endearment I can't tell anymore.

1481
01:35:44.319 --> 01:35:45.560
Sometimes I don't know if she just
doesn't want to learn how to use

1482
01:35:45.600 --> 01:35:51.479
the compost bin anyway. Number three
sitting till the end of video game credits.

1483
01:35:51.840 --> 01:35:56.319
I do I do I do.
I try to, but not always.

1484
01:35:56.600 --> 01:36:00.239
I'll do this speed thing. If
they's I'm like, ah, all

1485
01:36:00.319 --> 01:36:04.159
right, yeah yeah, I'm respecting
the devs, but faster, I'm letting

1486
01:36:04.159 --> 01:36:08.439
my eyes do all the word faster. Yeah. Ye. Number four,

1487
01:36:08.560 --> 01:36:13.199
Skipping dialogue when you've already read the
subtitles. Yes, yes, I'll never

1488
01:36:13.239 --> 01:36:15.720
skip it before i've read it,
but I will do a quick scan then

1489
01:36:15.720 --> 01:36:18.880
i'll skip. Yes, yeah,
I skip it in like it took me.

1490
01:36:19.359 --> 01:36:23.800
It was like fifteen minutes before I
was doing that all over Starfield,

1491
01:36:23.800 --> 01:36:26.399
and it's just like, everyone shut
up. I don't care. I don't

1492
01:36:26.399 --> 01:36:28.720
care. I don't care every game, pretty much every game. If I'm

1493
01:36:28.760 --> 01:36:30.600
reading faster than they're talking, skip
the next line, next line, next

1494
01:36:30.640 --> 01:36:33.840
line, unless I'm captivated by the
scene. Yeah, I'm touring to my

1495
01:36:33.840 --> 01:36:36.720
middle year solid because like there's all
those codex in the early games. It's

1496
01:36:36.760 --> 01:36:40.000
just like, man, I love
everything they're saying, and I love the

1497
01:36:40.119 --> 01:36:45.720
voice acting, but it's like a
lot, you know. Yeah. Yeah,

1498
01:36:45.760 --> 01:36:48.880
finally, do the smell test on
food left on the counter overnight to

1499
01:36:48.880 --> 01:36:53.840
see if it's still good leaving food
on the counter overnight. Yeah, I

1500
01:36:53.880 --> 01:36:56.840
do to all food I'll smell all
food. I'll be like, is this

1501
01:36:56.880 --> 01:36:59.760
food bad? Yeah, you smell. Why are you leaving food on the

1502
01:36:59.760 --> 01:37:02.720
count overnight? It depends on what
we're talking about. I don't think it's

1503
01:37:02.800 --> 01:37:09.399
left uncovered, right. You wouldn't
leave a slice of leaving uncovered overnight.

1504
01:37:09.560 --> 01:37:13.760
You'd put like I'm heard the questions
applying here. I think the question I

1505
01:37:13.800 --> 01:37:16.000
was asking if you have to slice
of pizza out overnight, I would not

1506
01:37:16.079 --> 01:37:19.279
trust the smell test to be able
to smell that level of that pizza is

1507
01:37:19.279 --> 01:37:24.840
good over pizza is gonna be fine
overnight anyway, the fridge, I'm with

1508
01:37:25.000 --> 01:37:27.159
you. Put in its foil,
wrap it up, put it in the

1509
01:37:27.159 --> 01:37:31.680
fridge. You're gonna get lives near
place is gonna smell totally for the third

1510
01:37:31.680 --> 01:37:34.880
time, we agree. But a
kid my family would keep it in the

1511
01:37:34.920 --> 01:37:39.640
oven overnight, and I'm like,
fine, it's not it's not. But

1512
01:37:40.119 --> 01:37:42.880
yeah I did it and that was
fine. You're right, Maybe that's fine

1513
01:37:42.880 --> 01:37:45.880
because it was never a problem for
us. What is the oven if not

1514
01:37:45.920 --> 01:37:48.960
another closet when it's not on I
mean, come on, hey, storage

1515
01:37:49.000 --> 01:37:54.520
baby, talking about leftover food.
Here's a here's a pro tip that I've

1516
01:37:54.560 --> 01:37:58.079
done mild this amount of research for
so don't completely take my word for it.

1517
01:37:58.560 --> 01:38:01.159
Yo, baby's out there, not
actual babies. Uh, if you

1518
01:38:01.199 --> 01:38:04.760
got left over rice. If you
got left over rice, freeze that ship

1519
01:38:05.039 --> 01:38:10.960
and then reheat it because you lower
the glucose in it. So all my

1520
01:38:11.039 --> 01:38:15.800
diabetic friends are on the verge of
diabetes. If you got worried about glucose.

1521
01:38:15.760 --> 01:38:20.439
There you go, babes, this
does sound like science. I right

1522
01:38:20.680 --> 01:38:25.840
again, quick tangential research, greb. Where's that barbecue medate at right now?

1523
01:38:26.279 --> 01:38:30.159
It's in my freezer in the garage. And I'm so you you messaged

1524
01:38:30.199 --> 01:38:32.640
me and you're like, You're like, tell me about the casey Joe's delivery.

1525
01:38:32.720 --> 01:38:34.560
And then the next thing you're like, and there's a there's a deal.

1526
01:38:34.560 --> 01:38:36.039
Have you already ordered? I'm like
no, And like, so I

1527
01:38:36.039 --> 01:38:42.520
got a free extra pound of the
burnt ends. Yeah. I'm kind of

1528
01:38:42.600 --> 01:38:45.960
thinking I have enough that I could
get some of this early and then still

1529
01:38:45.000 --> 01:38:47.800
have enough for the Christmas dinner.
Throw it, throw it in the fridge

1530
01:38:47.800 --> 01:38:51.239
a day or two before, get
it all softened up, and then throw

1531
01:38:51.239 --> 01:38:55.479
it in the fridge, throwing the
bridge and let it kind of soften up.

1532
01:38:55.560 --> 01:38:57.880
But then you throw the whole package
in the bottle. Right. They

1533
01:38:57.880 --> 01:39:00.000
gave me the rehit heating guy,
and I put that in the freezer two

1534
01:39:00.079 --> 01:39:02.119
so I know exactly where it is. Uh but yeah, okay, I'll

1535
01:39:02.159 --> 01:39:04.399
read that up and make sure I
do it exactly right, but i'll throw

1536
01:39:04.439 --> 01:39:08.319
it the fridge. I'm very excited
about that. So was it in that

1537
01:39:08.399 --> 01:39:12.560
sauce? Oh with that? Oh, no problem there, that's gonna yes,

1538
01:39:12.640 --> 01:39:17.960
okay, you're yes, yes,
yeah me. It came in like

1539
01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:25.239
a couple of days. Casey Joe's
just online that you get burned in a

1540
01:39:25.279 --> 01:39:29.239
freezer delivered in a little styro from
cooler with the dried ice. It came

1541
01:39:29.319 --> 01:39:31.720
completely frozer right in the freezer.
It has the re hitting guide where it's

1542
01:39:31.760 --> 01:39:34.600
like it's in the plastic casing.
So I'm like, I think you're supposed

1543
01:39:34.600 --> 01:39:36.479
to put it in a boiling water, right, and that's gonna heat it

1544
01:39:36.479 --> 01:39:39.800
back. It's like twenty minutes of
boiling. Well, you do boiling and

1545
01:39:39.800 --> 01:39:42.000
then when it gets to a rolling
boil, you turn the heat off.

1546
01:39:42.199 --> 01:39:44.479
You toss it in there for like
twenty minutes. You pull out the vacuum

1547
01:39:44.479 --> 01:39:45.840
sealed thing, open it up,
slatter it in the sauce, and go

1548
01:39:45.880 --> 01:39:49.079
to town. Oh that's okay,
that's Christmas dinner right there. I'm so

1549
01:39:49.159 --> 01:39:55.279
excited. I'm about to be a
dirty jpeg eating this. Uh it's about

1550
01:39:55.399 --> 01:39:58.960
eight pounds of barbecue meat my freezer
right now, and like like ten bottles

1551
01:39:58.960 --> 01:40:01.920
of the sauce. So yeah,
looking forward to it. Reza has a

1552
01:40:02.000 --> 01:40:05.880
couple of specific questions for me,
jan if you'd indulge me need some coffee

1553
01:40:05.960 --> 01:40:10.560
questions. Number one, do you
scoop out the coffee grounds before pouring it

1554
01:40:10.560 --> 01:40:13.279
out? Reza should have put this
ahead of time, but they use a

1555
01:40:13.319 --> 01:40:16.520
French press slash plunger method to get
their coffee. I don't scoop it.

1556
01:40:16.720 --> 01:40:20.680
I don't like French press coffee,
so but I wouldn't scoop it out anyway,

1557
01:40:20.720 --> 01:40:24.439
Just let that as you stir in
their baby. Number two, should

1558
01:40:24.479 --> 01:40:27.680
I stir the coffee grounds after the
four minutes? Yes, get a even

1559
01:40:27.720 --> 01:40:31.279
extraction. Number three, what the
hell is the dome and does it actually

1560
01:40:31.279 --> 01:40:35.720
make coffee taste better? I'm unfamiliar
with what you mean by a dome in

1561
01:40:35.760 --> 01:40:40.159
this context, but in my context, often a dome is just the dome.

1562
01:40:40.920 --> 01:40:45.520
That happens when you bloom pour over
coffee. It's just for me.

1563
01:40:45.560 --> 01:40:54.039
It evaluates the freshness of the beans
and everything. Next email comes from We

1564
01:40:54.359 --> 01:41:00.119
Tipper. They write into the show
and ask, hi, BombCast, did

1565
01:41:00.159 --> 01:41:02.720
you guys explain the tipping culture in
America to an ignorant European? How much

1566
01:41:02.760 --> 01:41:05.760
do you guys generally tip? Do
you start pulling out calculators to measure?

1567
01:41:05.800 --> 01:41:09.720
How much is twenty percent of the
bill? What happens if you don't tip?

1568
01:41:09.880 --> 01:41:12.640
Do you get mean looks? Called
out? Thrown out? You guys

1569
01:41:12.720 --> 01:41:15.640
like the tipping system regards we Tipper. You know, nate a calculator for

1570
01:41:15.680 --> 01:41:19.039
twenty twenty piece and I always do
twenty is the default, Like pretty much

1571
01:41:19.079 --> 01:41:23.199
the matter one point one place to
the left or one point and then and

1572
01:41:23.199 --> 01:41:25.880
then you just double that. That's
twenty percent. Yeah, give me give

1573
01:41:25.920 --> 01:41:30.319
me a give me a reasonable dinner
for two cost So it's gonna be thirty

1574
01:41:30.359 --> 01:41:32.960
five dollars in twenty seven cents thirty
five seven, so ten percent would be

1575
01:41:33.000 --> 01:41:35.640
around three to fifty double at seven. That's it, yep. And then

1576
01:41:35.880 --> 01:41:39.439
to be safe, you do seven. To be save, I always go

1577
01:41:39.479 --> 01:41:41.560
one dollar up yeah, I would
do. I would jump it out a

1578
01:41:41.600 --> 01:41:44.439
little bit, yes, yes.
And then there are the things like twenty

1579
01:41:44.479 --> 01:41:45.680
is like the default, and if
it's like really really good service, you

1580
01:41:45.720 --> 01:41:49.720
know, bump it up a bit. I rare rarely go below twenty unless

1581
01:41:49.760 --> 01:41:54.920
someone's like actively being shitty, you
know, like but that almost never happens.

1582
01:41:55.119 --> 01:41:59.720
So I have in the last year
discovered I do like the tipping system,

1583
01:42:00.000 --> 01:42:03.840
and I'll explain why it gives me
agency and my relationship to the person

1584
01:42:03.840 --> 01:42:08.680
who is serving me my food,
so that I can feel good about our

1585
01:42:08.720 --> 01:42:12.720
relationship regardless of how they feel about
their place of employment. I'm tipping them,

1586
01:42:12.920 --> 01:42:14.960
and a lot of times I'm tipping, like the driver, I'm tipping

1587
01:42:14.960 --> 01:42:16.520
them up front a lot of times, so they see, Okay, this

1588
01:42:16.520 --> 01:42:21.520
person did a good tip, and
so I can prioritize taking care of them.

1589
01:42:21.880 --> 01:42:25.239
And it's not like, oh,
I hate my job, so I'm

1590
01:42:25.239 --> 01:42:26.600
going to take it out on this
person. It's like, no, this

1591
01:42:26.640 --> 01:42:29.920
person's tipping me, so I I
can feel good about it and they can

1592
01:42:29.960 --> 01:42:32.239
feel good about it. Like I
still get like anxious going to someplace like

1593
01:42:32.279 --> 01:42:36.119
McDonald's where I know it's just a
minimum wage employee in there toiling away and

1594
01:42:36.159 --> 01:42:39.800
there's nothing, no way for me
to let them know I'm on their side.

1595
01:42:39.840 --> 01:42:42.239
I would if I could give you
more money. I would, if

1596
01:42:42.239 --> 01:42:45.199
there's no means to do that.
So it's like, God, I hope

1597
01:42:45.199 --> 01:42:46.319
they're okay, and I just have
to like roll the dice that they're not

1598
01:42:47.439 --> 01:42:49.399
upset and they're going to take it
out of my food in some way.

1599
01:42:49.439 --> 01:42:53.800
And maybe that's like anxiety, like, oh, people actually don't do that,

1600
01:42:54.000 --> 01:42:56.359
but you know, I've worked at
places I know how people can feel,

1601
01:42:56.399 --> 01:43:00.000
and it's like artist, I was
a sandwich artist and that wasn't people

1602
01:43:00.119 --> 01:43:02.920
like pissing and elimonade or something like
that. But people can get like hurt

1603
01:43:02.960 --> 01:43:05.840
about like their job and then take
it out on people. And I just

1604
01:43:06.039 --> 01:43:09.800
want to get rid of that factor
completely. Yeah. Growing up, my

1605
01:43:09.800 --> 01:43:13.039
mom was a Chili's waitress, so
like I've have pretty strong fail driver.

1606
01:43:13.359 --> 01:43:15.680
She would come back and she'd be
like, this table at ten was here

1607
01:43:15.680 --> 01:43:17.319
for hours and took up this table
forever and then they didn't tip shit.

1608
01:43:17.359 --> 01:43:20.680
And it's like I know how much
that like devastates like a single mom working

1609
01:43:20.720 --> 01:43:24.159
as a waitress, you know,
which, by the way, quick tip

1610
01:43:24.159 --> 01:43:27.560
while I'm thinking about it, If
you type in Amazon thank my Amazon driver,

1611
01:43:27.880 --> 01:43:30.880
it will Amazon you give the driver
of your most recent delivery a five

1612
01:43:30.920 --> 01:43:33.800
dollars tip, so you have nothing
to lose. You're literally just giving Amazon's

1613
01:43:33.840 --> 01:43:38.680
money to your delivery drivers, free
money and no reason not to. Yeah,

1614
01:43:38.720 --> 01:43:44.279
exactly, Yeah, sure, it
feels it's nice to be able to

1615
01:43:44.319 --> 01:43:47.039
have that bit of a relationship with
your you know, server, right,

1616
01:43:47.039 --> 01:43:48.840
but like, yeah, that's what
this is, just me. Yeah,

1617
01:43:49.119 --> 01:43:51.720
no, you're not wrong. You're
coming from the right spot. But like

1618
01:43:51.840 --> 01:43:56.479
obviously it shouldn't even like be like
that, right, Like that's the biggest

1619
01:43:56.479 --> 01:44:01.039
thing is that people there are too
many dickheads that don't tip, so the

1620
01:44:01.079 --> 01:44:05.439
system is not is just flawed in
so so many ways. It's like you

1621
01:44:05.520 --> 01:44:11.159
can't operate like this, and it's
why people like we tipp are come to

1622
01:44:11.239 --> 01:44:15.159
our ridiculous, bad shit country and
they're like, what the fuck are you

1623
01:44:15.279 --> 01:44:20.760
doing? And understandably so, because
what are we doing? Yeah? Yeah,

1624
01:44:20.800 --> 01:44:25.079
for sure, I just uh I
when I go to other places now,

1625
01:44:25.079 --> 01:44:27.800
it's like, oh, you don't
tip here, It's like yeah,

1626
01:44:27.920 --> 01:44:30.399
I still really really want to though, I like, because that's how you

1627
01:44:30.479 --> 01:44:33.800
like that's how the system spit you
out. The system spit you can you'll

1628
01:44:33.840 --> 01:44:36.640
be like I need to do this. Yeah, I work on both sides

1629
01:44:36.640 --> 01:44:40.039
of it, though. It's like, yeah, I just like having that

1630
01:44:40.039 --> 01:44:44.319
direct relationship with the person that's doing
the work for me. Sure you're going

1631
01:44:44.399 --> 01:44:47.960
to do Japan with Timptory once and
uh he used to work at Applebee's before

1632
01:44:48.000 --> 01:44:53.000
game and former not Applebee's outback,
out back and we went to an outback

1633
01:44:53.000 --> 01:44:56.560
in Japan and he had to like
pull the waiters over and talk to him

1634
01:44:56.560 --> 01:44:58.840
about all the differences and so oh
we have the same knackin holders. That's

1635
01:44:58.880 --> 01:45:00.800
crazy. And then like, I
know that's not normally how this goes here,

1636
01:45:00.800 --> 01:45:02.600
but can I tip you? Can
I please tip you? It's been

1637
01:45:02.680 --> 01:45:04.640
so great to be here and talk
to you and everything. And they're like,

1638
01:45:04.680 --> 01:45:06.640
no, seriously, don't do that. We don't do that here,

1639
01:45:06.680 --> 01:45:10.560
and like it could just broke Tim's
brain to not be able to tip these

1640
01:45:10.640 --> 01:45:13.479
out back waiters. And it's offensive
to tip in some cultures, right,

1641
01:45:13.560 --> 01:45:17.560
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've never been called like I mean

1642
01:45:17.600 --> 01:45:23.319
I do the twenty percent thing too. I've never had a situation where you

1643
01:45:23.520 --> 01:45:27.359
just to follow up on the rest
of the questions then thrown out. That

1644
01:45:27.399 --> 01:45:30.079
would be sick. I've seen people
see like this is where it gets ridiculous

1645
01:45:30.079 --> 01:45:36.079
and messy and dumb, where Like
I've seen bartenders literally call out people who

1646
01:45:36.159 --> 01:45:41.159
like did not tip what they thought
they should have been tipped for pouring a

1647
01:45:41.239 --> 01:45:45.600
drink, and it's just like I've
seen it. I've seen the city dozens

1648
01:45:45.640 --> 01:45:49.000
of times. I've had a similar
instance with like an uber taxi driver when

1649
01:45:49.039 --> 01:45:54.039
I'm taking a personal ride and I'll
hit zero on the thing because I just

1650
01:45:54.039 --> 01:45:58.960
want to give them physical cash cash, and like they'll they'll get all up

1651
01:45:58.960 --> 01:46:02.079
at you at first and be like, oh I live on Milish, is

1652
01:46:02.119 --> 01:46:03.880
actually better for them? No,
no, no, no, no,

1653
01:46:03.880 --> 01:46:08.199
no, here you go, man, chill out. You should just do

1654
01:46:08.399 --> 01:46:13.279
the money first, jam what are
you doing then? And then hit the

1655
01:46:13.359 --> 01:46:18.479
zero. Uh. Yeah. People
do get called out sometimes, and mostly

1656
01:46:18.520 --> 01:46:21.920
though, people just get frustrated and
quiet. That's what I mean. When

1657
01:46:21.920 --> 01:46:27.279
I would go in early to Jimmy
John's for a big delivery order on Ohiose

1658
01:46:27.319 --> 01:46:30.079
State Campus and like, all right, this orders three hundred dollars. I'll

1659
01:46:30.079 --> 01:46:31.439
come in, I'll help make all
the sandwiches, I'll deliver it and then

1660
01:46:31.520 --> 01:46:33.960
get stiffed on the tip, and
yeah, that felt real bad. Like

1661
01:46:33.960 --> 01:46:39.159
I'm expecting to get thirty to sixty
dollars and you get nothing. That's that

1662
01:46:39.199 --> 01:46:42.840
can be very frustrating, But most
people actually do tip and most people get

1663
01:46:42.840 --> 01:46:44.960
it, and a lot of times
as a delivery driver it was like,

1664
01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:46.439
oh, put one dollar on this
deal and it's like okay, well that

1665
01:46:46.560 --> 01:46:50.159
still kind of sucks, but going
home with cash every night was always good.

1666
01:46:50.439 --> 01:46:54.560
It's it's the side where it's like, Okay, tipped employees make less

1667
01:46:54.560 --> 01:46:58.079
than minimum wage because the tips are
supposed to make up for it. That's

1668
01:46:58.119 --> 01:47:00.640
the side that like actually probably should
change for sure. Hey, uh,

1669
01:47:00.840 --> 01:47:03.840
you know the Giant BombCast and Giant
Bomb in general is the perfect place to

1670
01:47:03.840 --> 01:47:09.399
seek legal advice, right mm hmm
yeah, lawyer, Yeah, yeah.

1671
01:47:09.439 --> 01:47:13.159
Hey, if if I worked at
a coffee shop for X amount of years

1672
01:47:13.399 --> 01:47:18.279
and you know they they used the
point of sale system where it's the iPads

1673
01:47:18.279 --> 01:47:23.520
and you add the tips there,
and if I never saw any of those

1674
01:47:23.560 --> 01:47:28.079
tips that got added from a credit
card or a debit card transaction, I

1675
01:47:28.079 --> 01:47:30.720
should probably uh cause a fuss about
that, right, you should. You

1676
01:47:30.760 --> 01:47:33.720
should if you have any way of
tracking any of that, Jane, And

1677
01:47:33.760 --> 01:47:36.439
I don't know if you do,
but even if you don't, I would

1678
01:47:36.640 --> 01:47:40.920
estimate and go to your Bureau of
Labor in the state, and they will

1679
01:47:40.960 --> 01:47:43.720
fucking go to town for you.
They will, especially in California. They

1680
01:47:43.720 --> 01:47:45.760
did it for me in Ohio,
so if they did it for me in

1681
01:47:45.800 --> 01:47:47.760
Ohio, California will really get their
ass. All Right, the trap house

1682
01:47:47.800 --> 01:47:51.680
is about to get fucking retroactively praid
these assholes. Yeah, let's go.

1683
01:47:54.439 --> 01:47:59.199
I'm not gonna say the name of
the coffee shop. Uh. Next email

1684
01:47:59.319 --> 01:48:03.880
comes from dam and they write in
high bombers Grub asked the question who are

1685
01:48:03.920 --> 01:48:09.000
these people that buy the day before
on the most recent BombCast? And I

1686
01:48:09.000 --> 01:48:13.439
can answer that with at least one
example. My sixty seven year old dad

1687
01:48:13.840 --> 01:48:16.880
what. He's been a gamer most
of most of his and all of my

1688
01:48:17.000 --> 01:48:21.000
life, and my very first gaming
memory is sitting on his lap at around

1689
01:48:21.039 --> 01:48:25.479
five years old watching him play MT
and Magic three in nineteen ninety one.

1690
01:48:25.720 --> 01:48:29.960
He's a real gamer. Okay wow. In the past couple of years,

1691
01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:34.479
he's been playing mostly survival games like
Scum Subnautica, Valheim grounded and most recently

1692
01:48:34.680 --> 01:48:39.760
returned to Moria. He didn't know
how much about the game, as is

1693
01:48:39.800 --> 01:48:42.680
often the case, that he just
fell victim to it. Big thanks to

1694
01:48:42.720 --> 01:48:46.000
you guys, because otherwise I wouldn't
have known to tell him to get a

1695
01:48:46.000 --> 01:48:50.800
refund for that game. He's never
before, he has never before in his

1696
01:48:50.840 --> 01:48:55.560
life refunded anything on Steam and has
also played more than the two hours,

1697
01:48:55.560 --> 01:48:58.479
but his request was just granted.
Thanks for all that you do, lovely

1698
01:48:58.520 --> 01:49:01.399
people, Daniel. But are you
glad to hear that? What's the TLDR

1699
01:49:01.479 --> 01:49:03.479
on? What is the day?
Yeah? I was going to give that

1700
01:49:03.479 --> 01:49:08.039
to you real quick. So The
Day Before is the game that got announced

1701
01:49:08.079 --> 01:49:10.520
a while back, and it became
one of the most wish listed games on

1702
01:49:10.560 --> 01:49:13.159
Steam because it kind of looked like, hey, what if the Last of

1703
01:49:13.239 --> 01:49:15.680
Us was a survival game, which
is like catnip to a lot of people,

1704
01:49:15.760 --> 01:49:18.520
especially on Steam, and it was
it was clear from the beginning to

1705
01:49:18.600 --> 01:49:25.560
most people that it was not real
in any way. It was always it

1706
01:49:25.600 --> 01:49:29.880
was like they would take like the
looks, the exact actions that would happen

1707
01:49:29.920 --> 01:49:31.800
in other trailers, not just like
games, but like movies and like the

1708
01:49:31.880 --> 01:49:36.800
dum, what's the Will Smith movie
with the dog men and zombies? Yes,

1709
01:49:36.840 --> 01:49:40.359
men in Black? You would take
the Men in Black movie and uh,

1710
01:49:40.439 --> 01:49:43.079
and they would like make their trailer
look just like that, and it's

1711
01:49:43.079 --> 01:49:45.840
like, Okay, clearly they're just
lying. But some people got pretty hyped

1712
01:49:45.880 --> 01:49:49.399
for it. It came out a
couple of weeks ago and it was a

1713
01:49:49.439 --> 01:49:54.000
disaster. It barely worked. It
was clearly just stuff bought off the asset

1714
01:49:54.039 --> 01:49:57.640
store, a completely empty game,
and then the studio shut down four days

1715
01:49:57.720 --> 01:50:02.199
later and they closed the same shit. So when we talked about it,

1716
01:50:02.279 --> 01:50:06.880
I was like, I I'm mostly
glad that games like this can happen because

1717
01:50:06.920 --> 01:50:10.840
that means anyone can go make a
game and something will come out and actually

1718
01:50:10.880 --> 01:50:14.479
be good. But that means people
should go get refunds if they bought it,

1719
01:50:14.720 --> 01:50:16.079
and Steam will give you a refund
even if you played more than the

1720
01:50:16.079 --> 01:50:18.399
two hours that they say you always
you play more less than two hours,

1721
01:50:18.399 --> 01:50:20.760
you can get refund. After that, you have to keep game. That's

1722
01:50:20.800 --> 01:50:24.520
not true, especially in a case
like this where they just pulled the rug

1723
01:50:24.560 --> 01:50:27.720
out from everyone. They are giving
refunds to everybody for this game, So

1724
01:50:27.840 --> 01:50:30.159
definitely go do that that's what hasn't
been delisted or anything. Yeah, I

1725
01:50:30.159 --> 01:50:32.560
don't think you can buy it anymore. Yes, okay, good, Yeah,

1726
01:50:32.600 --> 01:50:39.000
definitely Jesus all right. Pocono Paul
sent in a very long email about

1727
01:50:39.039 --> 01:50:43.560
podcast point conversions. So I'm gonna
go ahead and give Pocono Paul a good

1728
01:50:43.640 --> 01:50:46.279
twenty podcast points. If you're listening
live right now, you get five.

1729
01:50:46.359 --> 01:50:49.640
If you're listening to the archive,
you get five, and then you'll get

1730
01:50:49.640 --> 01:51:02.399
six later when the later point is
well. But Pete writes in about about

1731
01:51:02.640 --> 01:51:08.199
being under the influence while playing Allen
Wack two Hey BombCast during the Game of

1732
01:51:08.199 --> 01:51:12.439
the Year discussions on the Soldier Boy
Presents category, Bakalar had such a strong

1733
01:51:12.520 --> 01:51:15.439
opposition to playing Allan Wake two while
HI that it made me curious to give

1734
01:51:15.439 --> 01:51:19.800
it a try. I'm off the
same That was the takeaway. That was

1735
01:51:19.840 --> 01:51:23.680
the thing to do. I'm off
this week. So I figured I would

1736
01:51:23.680 --> 01:51:28.319
set aside a day, have a
macrotost in the morning, and fire a

1737
01:51:28.359 --> 01:51:33.199
new game plus for Allen Wake two. Despite the discussions discussions during Game of

1738
01:51:33.239 --> 01:51:36.239
the Year, I figured I would
have a pretty good time and my state

1739
01:51:36.239 --> 01:51:41.239
of mind would play well with the
trippy aspects of the game. Unfortunately,

1740
01:51:41.279 --> 01:51:45.720
I did not enjoy it and build
after a couple hours. Yeah, Shock

1741
01:51:45.720 --> 01:51:49.479
nothing terrible, but I just wasn't
vibing with it really well. Afterwards,

1742
01:51:49.520 --> 01:51:55.279
I went back to playing Avatar to
get more more experience. Just curious,

1743
01:51:55.279 --> 01:51:59.159
what are the situations that you have
all been in where you were intoxicated from

1744
01:51:59.159 --> 01:52:02.560
one thing or another and found yourself
just wishing you were sober. Thank you

1745
01:52:02.600 --> 01:52:08.880
guys for endless hours of entertainment,
Pete. I have the opposite where I

1746
01:52:08.960 --> 01:52:13.359
was playing Super Mario Brothers while very
drunken high at a friend's house, and

1747
01:52:13.880 --> 01:52:16.239
it was like everyone's passing the control
around and everyone was struggling with the level,

1748
01:52:16.239 --> 01:52:20.000
and it got back to me and
I just basically mainlined it right to

1749
01:52:20.039 --> 01:52:24.960
the end, jumped over the hammer
Brothers perfectly slid underneath the bowser, and

1750
01:52:25.000 --> 01:52:28.439
I looked like king shit for playing
a video game, which is even being

1751
01:52:28.479 --> 01:52:30.359
good at video games sometimes like that
doesn't happen very often, so be able

1752
01:52:30.399 --> 01:52:33.239
to like show off and have people
actually be impressed. I was like,

1753
01:52:33.279 --> 01:52:40.880
I was clearly in the butter zone
there so love the butter zone. Like

1754
01:52:40.960 --> 01:52:45.239
I guess the three times I you
know, had anything harder than weed.

1755
01:52:45.399 --> 01:52:47.399
And like when I was eighteen,
like doing mushrooms a couple of times and

1756
01:52:47.479 --> 01:52:50.520
just like the whole time. Well, no, there's a fun like hour

1757
01:52:50.640 --> 01:52:53.960
or two there, and then it's
just like, oh god, I'm dying,

1758
01:52:54.159 --> 01:52:58.319
make this stop. Like pretty much
just that tweed, we'll do that

1759
01:52:58.800 --> 01:53:02.079
something like half the time. But
alcohol that's the time. Yeah, I

1760
01:53:02.079 --> 01:53:03.920
got them. That's why I don't
smoke a lot of weed. Like I

1761
01:53:03.960 --> 01:53:06.720
just like it doesn't really I'm a
very anxious up in my head person,

1762
01:53:06.720 --> 01:53:10.800
and like it doesn't take much for
me to just like fixate on just like

1763
01:53:11.039 --> 01:53:14.640
my ears feel weird or something,
and then I'm you know, having anxiety,

1764
01:53:14.800 --> 01:53:16.640
whereas drinking. Every time I'm drinking
just like yeah, this is this

1765
01:53:16.720 --> 01:53:19.119
is a good time. Yeah,
if you had fifty if I had a

1766
01:53:19.159 --> 01:53:24.319
fifty percent success rate with weed,
i'd yeah probably do that right when I

1767
01:53:24.359 --> 01:53:30.119
do. It's like a three milligram
seltzer or something. Three milligram seltzer,

1768
01:53:30.199 --> 01:53:31.039
Yeah, yeah, one of those
during a movie or something like that.

1769
01:53:31.079 --> 01:53:33.840
It's just nice and it's enough to
feel it a little bit, but you're

1770
01:53:33.920 --> 01:53:38.840
you're not at risk of getting up
in your head too much. Huh.

1771
01:53:38.960 --> 01:53:44.840
They do three milligram seltzer. They
have one milligram stuff. Now, oh

1772
01:53:44.039 --> 01:53:48.239
no, that's a little yeah,
yeah, it seems a little means I

1773
01:53:48.279 --> 01:53:51.960
have have like and you won't even
like you don't even really feel that when

1774
01:53:53.079 --> 01:53:58.119
you get your weed seltzer. That's
a big thing here in Minnesota because like

1775
01:53:58.199 --> 01:54:00.279
it's going like full and dispensaries are
coming like I think within the next year.

1776
01:54:00.880 --> 01:54:04.319
But there is like a loophole type
thing where like in breweries, like

1777
01:54:04.399 --> 01:54:08.640
you can go to a brewery and
you can all you'll get like a thc

1778
01:54:08.760 --> 01:54:11.039
selter with your beer or something.
You know, you can do that.

1779
01:54:11.119 --> 01:54:16.079
I think I accidentally micro dosed at
a brewery recently. Yeah, like there

1780
01:54:16.159 --> 01:54:20.279
was something like called space dust or
some something like that. And then afterwards

1781
01:54:20.279 --> 01:54:26.079
I was, that's just that's just
a PCP oh ship cool. I was.

1782
01:54:26.119 --> 01:54:27.840
Afterwards. I was telling him,
it's like, hey, you're not

1783
01:54:27.920 --> 01:54:30.399
drinking. You're like we're ubering home
right like, are we going to get

1784
01:54:30.399 --> 01:54:35.359
a ride with someone? I just
can't be with people right now. Have

1785
01:54:36.239 --> 01:54:41.039
weed seltzer? Oh man, come
on, I got a bunch of the

1786
01:54:41.039 --> 01:54:45.000
bridge. We didn't win bag.
Have one had one while I was here.

1787
01:54:45.039 --> 01:54:49.800
We got yeah, very nice.
Yeah, we got weed beer over

1788
01:54:49.840 --> 01:54:56.399
here. I was puking. You
were just puped it up and drinking weed,

1789
01:54:57.520 --> 01:55:01.720
living in Minnesota. Fucking party right
there, that we party in Minnesota.

1790
01:55:02.159 --> 01:55:09.359
That's all Lucy god. Oh right, last email of the show,

1791
01:55:09.520 --> 01:55:13.239
the last live bumb cast of the
year. Who knows if we're going to

1792
01:55:13.600 --> 01:55:15.920
have time to pre record something for
next week, Probably won't have time.

1793
01:55:16.119 --> 01:55:20.680
Just wanna get that out of the
way now, But we would be remiss

1794
01:55:20.720 --> 01:55:27.399
if we ended the year without reading
one. Last email from Nathan from tom

1795
01:55:27.399 --> 01:55:30.800
Water, Washington. Are there any
hobbies you picked up during COVID Lockdown that

1796
01:55:30.840 --> 01:55:36.680
you still enjoy? Nathan from tom
Water, Washington learning a bunch of production

1797
01:55:36.760 --> 01:55:41.920
shit. Hey, that that is
what I applaud Dan for. I'm like,

1798
01:55:41.960 --> 01:55:45.039
wow, look at you knowing all
of this stuff, look at you

1799
01:55:45.279 --> 01:55:47.800
diagnosing all this stuff. It's great. I think it's it's awesome. Yeah.

1800
01:55:47.840 --> 01:55:50.119
I always had, you know,
a Drew or a Bennie or a

1801
01:55:50.119 --> 01:55:53.720
Hanson or someone before or I would
just sit in be a jackass for a

1802
01:55:53.720 --> 01:55:57.000
couple hours and they worry about all
this stuff. Now it's like during the

1803
01:55:57.039 --> 01:55:59.840
pandemic. It's all right, set
up camera, it's gonna learn obs all

1804
01:55:59.880 --> 01:56:01.800
the stuff and oh shit, okay, right, Like I used to do

1805
01:56:01.800 --> 01:56:04.279
a bunch of like video editing and
stuff. I like doing that stuff to

1806
01:56:04.279 --> 01:56:06.560
make a bunch of silly short films, and it's like, oh okay,

1807
01:56:06.560 --> 01:56:10.840
I like I like reactivated something in
my brain. And uh yeah, I'm

1808
01:56:10.880 --> 01:56:15.439
glad I still get to do a
lot of that here. I stopped doing

1809
01:56:15.479 --> 01:56:17.920
this because it became very costly.
But I used to develop film at home

1810
01:56:18.199 --> 01:56:21.840
and it was very fun and home. Yeah, wow, yo, they

1811
01:56:21.920 --> 01:56:26.800
make the chemicals so much lighter now
that it only will slightly poison you,

1812
01:56:26.640 --> 01:56:29.680
you know, hell yea, And
what do you like do it in a

1813
01:56:29.680 --> 01:56:32.199
windowless bathroom or something? Yeah,
you got to load up the film.

1814
01:56:33.000 --> 01:56:36.439
I don't even know where they're in
a bag. I didn't use a bag.

1815
01:56:36.479 --> 01:56:42.640
I just used my extremely good night
vision to load to unspool the film,

1816
01:56:42.960 --> 01:56:45.399
load it up into a little thing, and then yeah, you just

1817
01:56:45.439 --> 01:56:48.239
go to town with the chemicals.
That's why I bought a souv not to

1818
01:56:48.279 --> 01:56:51.640
actually cook, but to like keep
my chemicals at the right temperature. Sure,

1819
01:56:51.880 --> 01:56:55.840
sure, sure, the black and
white chemicals though. You can't pour

1820
01:56:55.880 --> 01:56:58.640
those down down the drain. You
got to figure out a ditch to throw

1821
01:56:58.680 --> 01:57:01.199
those away. You just drink those
yeah yeah, yeah, set them to

1822
01:57:01.239 --> 01:57:05.000
Canada. But the part of the
reason why I stopped developing film at home,

1823
01:57:05.079 --> 01:57:11.680
other than film becoming stupid expensive over
the course of the pandemic, because

1824
01:57:11.760 --> 01:57:16.439
a lot of folks were also getting
into film, or was how time intensive

1825
01:57:16.520 --> 01:57:23.680
it is to scan every single fucking
film negative? Oh yeah, Oh so

1826
01:57:23.760 --> 01:57:30.239
then like imagine you're right, you
get a film stock of thirty six pictures

1827
01:57:30.319 --> 01:57:31.680
in your head when you're taking the
pictures like, oh, you're just zooming

1828
01:57:31.760 --> 01:57:35.159
through it. But then when you
have to sit there and scan every single

1829
01:57:36.000 --> 01:57:41.359
image for like five minutes plus just
to get the right thing, and then

1830
01:57:41.399 --> 01:57:44.560
to convert it afterwards. Oh fuck
that. Afterwards, I was like,

1831
01:57:44.680 --> 01:57:46.319
I don't want to do this anymore. That reminds me of the thing that

1832
01:57:46.439 --> 01:57:48.880
was like not really a hobby because
it's something I did for work when I

1833
01:57:48.920 --> 01:57:54.880
was writing for games Beat still,
but getting into like benchmarking computer components GPUs

1834
01:57:54.920 --> 01:57:58.800
and CPUs, you could try to
automate some of that stuff. You can

1835
01:57:58.840 --> 01:58:00.760
try to like write script to go
through all these games. But if you

1836
01:58:00.800 --> 01:58:04.439
do that, something's going to break, and it will all the test results

1837
01:58:04.439 --> 01:58:08.800
will be completely useless. So you
kind of have to babysit as you're like

1838
01:58:08.840 --> 01:58:12.199
going through one game after another and
all these different components, and it was

1839
01:58:12.239 --> 01:58:14.800
so time consume. It's like,
this is fun up to a point,

1840
01:58:14.920 --> 01:58:17.079
but when you're on like the fourth
GPU, like in the fifteenth game,

1841
01:58:17.119 --> 01:58:20.239
for each one of these things,
it takes up so much time that it

1842
01:58:20.279 --> 01:58:24.800
became a name and I had to
stop, even though I really liked getting

1843
01:58:24.800 --> 01:58:28.720
computer parts for free from these companies
to cover them, but even that wasn't

1844
01:58:28.720 --> 01:58:32.840
worth it at a certain point.
That about does it for emails. Let's

1845
01:58:32.880 --> 01:58:38.520
get to the final portion of the
show, the shout outs, starting with

1846
01:58:38.600 --> 01:58:42.399
shots out too. Hi, mister
Grubb, Hi, mister Grubb's previous doctor

1847
01:58:42.439 --> 01:58:45.840
here in my defense, he was
a first patient I've had that wasn't a

1848
01:58:45.880 --> 01:58:50.960
horse, and I respected he didn't
want to kiss me. Sincerely, Richard

1849
01:58:50.960 --> 01:58:59.119
Handler, ohs gp obg y N
and slight hand slight fan magician. All

1850
01:58:59.199 --> 01:59:01.680
right, you said it, true
story. My dentist gave me shoot horse

1851
01:59:01.720 --> 01:59:09.359
antibiotics for gum problems. The National
Football League MVP front runner brock Perty is

1852
01:59:09.399 --> 01:59:13.359
not a system quarterback. He is
the system. Bang bang giant bombs,

1853
01:59:13.399 --> 01:59:18.039
bizarre buffoons, balance barefoot on bulky
video game bricks, babbling about bewildering behemoth

1854
01:59:18.039 --> 01:59:24.079
beatles and virtual battles, befuddling their
feet fleetingly the doc cops Dan, you

1855
01:59:24.119 --> 01:59:28.960
ever get to enjoy any more of
that rented hero for Dreamcast? No,

1856
01:59:29.159 --> 01:59:30.239
I just that w onet stream.
That was a lot of fun and silly.

1857
01:59:30.479 --> 01:59:33.479
Speaking of Dreamcast, question for y'all, if you added a second stip

1858
01:59:33.640 --> 01:59:36.800
stick to the Dreamcast bad, would
it be the best controller of all time?

1859
01:59:36.960 --> 01:59:41.319
Brackets? Also, I guess if
you added shoulder buttons second brackets.

1860
01:59:41.439 --> 01:59:45.159
Yes, this is hypothetical. It
still has the VMU and you have to

1861
01:59:45.159 --> 01:59:47.760
make the cable come out the top. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely, So

1862
01:59:48.520 --> 01:59:53.960
you make a few slight changes make
it a different controller than Yes. Yeah.

1863
01:59:53.960 --> 01:59:56.920
Shouts out to Kingdom Hearts two,
the perfect game to play for fifteen

1864
01:59:56.960 --> 02:00:00.039
hours of extra life. Shouts out
to Mike for shopping the team doing final

1865
02:00:00.079 --> 02:00:05.119
mix myths this past Sunday, and
also thank you for that beautiful cover slash

1866
02:00:05.199 --> 02:00:08.840
remix of I'll Make a Man out
of You. But switching Man to Jan.

1867
02:00:09.199 --> 02:00:13.199
Fantastic Shots out to TC Tuggers the
only shirt that's got a little knob

1868
02:00:13.239 --> 02:00:16.720
in the front half. Happy thirtieth
anniversary to the Mega Man X series X

1869
02:00:16.800 --> 02:00:20.720
represents endless possibility. Shots out to
Tanuki, those wonderful, adorable and ohso

1870
02:00:20.760 --> 02:00:26.760
fluffy raccoon dogs, especially Science Factory
Adorable Trio Sukushi May and Moogie, the

1871
02:00:26.800 --> 02:00:30.720
Tanuki who loves to ride Torque in
her own doggy travel pouch, Malagai and

1872
02:00:30.760 --> 02:00:35.079
Pasco Mangakuya. Shots out to swag
of Pinos and their drip for simbunka Slash,

1873
02:00:35.079 --> 02:00:41.439
Midnight mass verch dot org and www
Dot Gonzo hole dot com. Jan,

1874
02:00:41.560 --> 02:00:43.600
you look great, Backler, you
look great. Dan, you look

1875
02:00:43.640 --> 02:00:45.840
great. Oh oops, grub you
look great. Dan, you look Dan?

1876
02:00:45.920 --> 02:00:50.279
Saltlick check? Looking at it right
now? I put it in a

1877
02:00:50.319 --> 02:00:54.520
little notch between two trees, and
it has at some point fallen out,

1878
02:00:54.800 --> 02:01:00.079
but it is still very rectangular.
You got a shitty salt lick. Yeah,

1879
02:01:00.479 --> 02:01:03.079
Also like kind it's sticking out of
some leaves and stuff. So around

1880
02:01:04.680 --> 02:01:10.760
do you think Dan, that you
interacting with the saltlic first interfered with uh

1881
02:01:10.880 --> 02:01:14.039
yeah, with your dirty human oils. Yeah, the deer and turkeys happened,

1882
02:01:14.039 --> 02:01:17.560
like I know. Thanks uh parentheses. Also, Dan, you look

1883
02:01:17.600 --> 02:01:21.880
great. Hey nos a very merry
fuck you to you. Jangle Bells,

1884
02:01:23.039 --> 02:01:27.239
Grubman smells Dan can't cook an egg. The back of our mobile has a

1885
02:01:27.319 --> 02:01:31.880
Logitech wheel and Manatti went to Disney
World to pray a everybody Jangle Bells,

1886
02:01:31.960 --> 02:01:43.159
Grubman smells cook the wheel and Manati
went to the Mike Manatti for a fifteen

1887
02:01:43.159 --> 02:01:46.359
hour extra live stream mic saying sixteen
Disney songs. Shouts out to Marino.

1888
02:01:46.760 --> 02:01:51.119
The GV community Game of the Year
voting is live now, Big Big Special.

1889
02:01:51.159 --> 02:01:55.960
Shouts out to Yes coming out per
Game of the Year. That was

1890
02:01:55.960 --> 02:02:00.079
excellent, guest listen everything just a
huge help. The best egg. Shouts

1891
02:02:00.079 --> 02:02:04.880
out to Alex Bunyello released the sheet
music for the Mike MINNAUGHTI song fire Escape

1892
02:02:04.880 --> 02:02:10.119
for an eight hour Game of the
year's stream. Jesus Christ your butts Christmas

1893
02:02:10.159 --> 02:02:14.159
in San Francisco is dog shit song
and you all know it all right grub

1894
02:02:14.159 --> 02:02:17.520
twenty four check. I haven't started
back up? Yeah, yeah, I

1895
02:02:17.800 --> 02:02:20.920
will. I dining tend to Maybe
that'll be my New Year's resolution is to

1896
02:02:20.920 --> 02:02:27.520
get back to Jack Bauer. Yes, season three is hogg on Heroin to

1897
02:02:27.520 --> 02:02:30.159
see that. That's the best one. I think for sure. I'm not

1898
02:02:30.199 --> 02:02:35.520
going to read this shout out here
because words, but shouts out to the

1899
02:02:35.560 --> 02:02:39.560
GB crew for a wonderful game of
the year and wishing ill happy holidays.

1900
02:02:39.560 --> 02:02:44.079
And finally shouts out too, and
as Tiny Tam observed, scout the dog

1901
02:02:44.119 --> 02:02:50.560
bless us. Every one. Every
one shouts out to these hooligans around me

1902
02:02:50.680 --> 02:02:54.720
on the call. Right here,
shouts out to the other hooligans that are

1903
02:02:54.720 --> 02:02:58.039
not on the call. I feel
like we've had a fucking banger of a

1904
02:02:58.119 --> 02:03:03.880
year. Boys. Yeah, good
work, every good absolutely a crew here.

1905
02:03:03.960 --> 02:03:09.119
Huh yeah, it's real good.
I was telling afterwards, like,

1906
02:03:09.119 --> 02:03:11.600
hey, it's not that I'm sad
to be back home. It's just like,

1907
02:03:11.920 --> 02:03:14.640
I really enjoyed hang out with everyone. It was nice to see everyone.

1908
02:03:15.239 --> 02:03:16.760
It was a really good time.
I know we've said this before,

1909
02:03:16.800 --> 02:03:21.239
but it's like, oh wow,
I like all these fuckos. We have

1910
02:03:21.279 --> 02:03:25.239
a good time. So let's meet
up more next year. Yeah, let's

1911
02:03:25.239 --> 02:03:28.560
do that. Let's do the place. Yeah yeah, maybe we'll go these

1912
02:03:28.640 --> 02:03:32.079
coast first or something. You know, if you want some nice wheat selters.

1913
02:03:32.960 --> 02:03:34.920
No, I just found out I
could have it sent to me.

1914
02:03:35.000 --> 02:03:38.439
So but okay, I got a
great diary of toilet. If you're ever

1915
02:03:38.479 --> 02:03:42.880
feeling that so cool? Can I
pug in that top tier top tier?

1916
02:03:43.159 --> 02:03:45.319
I legitimately had the idea this weekend
when my hearty was here because we got

1917
02:03:45.399 --> 02:03:47.359
Juicy Lucy's, and he was saying, like, oh, the dairy,

1918
02:03:47.359 --> 02:03:49.920
I'm probably have like a diary explosion
in your bathroom. I said, like,

1919
02:03:50.039 --> 02:03:55.239
if you do use this particular one, and I legitimately thought about getting

1920
02:03:55.239 --> 02:03:59.239
plaques made up of my friends who
have diarrhea in that bathroom, putting up

1921
02:03:59.239 --> 02:04:01.800
like grub if I sit you like
a portrait like when a celebrity eats at

1922
02:04:01.840 --> 02:04:09.720
a restaurant, would you put it
in that bathroom? That awesome sign of

1923
02:04:09.720 --> 02:04:15.199
course? Okay, the perfect picture. Okay, it's not, don't worry.

1924
02:04:15.720 --> 02:04:18.359
Oh boy, what what do we
got going on the rest of this

1925
02:04:18.560 --> 02:04:26.000
week? I think mostly I'm just
imagining, like you know, the middle

1926
02:04:26.039 --> 02:04:29.039
of the week, Dan just like
walking around the house, goes into that

1927
02:04:29.079 --> 02:04:33.199
bathroom admiring all the people ship,
just like, oh you remember that ship.

1928
02:04:33.560 --> 02:04:36.039
Yeah, we had to change the
play wed become a thang for that

1929
02:04:36.079 --> 02:04:43.000
bathroom just a bunch of bush photos, yes, weird house. Okay,

1930
02:04:43.039 --> 02:04:45.079
so let's see her games morning.
The last one of the year is tomorrow,

1931
02:04:45.079 --> 02:04:48.119
everybody, and guess who's on there, Lucy James. Look out for

1932
02:04:48.199 --> 02:04:51.279
that. It's gonna be a lot
of fun. What else do we have

1933
02:04:51.319 --> 02:04:55.039
happening tomorrow? We're gonna do a
Blike Club, right, We're gonna do

1934
02:04:55.039 --> 02:04:58.119
a Blake caub a little bit earlier, and then is the plan to do

1935
02:04:58.600 --> 02:05:02.079
Lethal Company after that? Okay,
whoever can show out of it, okay,

1936
02:05:02.159 --> 02:05:04.520
Leaf of Company. I'll send you
guys a hip file for the mods.

1937
02:05:04.640 --> 02:05:08.439
We're gonna try to get as many
people in the Lethal Company as possible.

1938
02:05:08.640 --> 02:05:11.520
The game was not available for sale
yesterday and we were worried about it.

1939
02:05:11.520 --> 02:05:14.560
It's back up now though, so
uh, I think I think we're

1940
02:05:14.600 --> 02:05:16.840
good. So we'll get that happening. Uh. That will probably be one

1941
02:05:16.840 --> 02:05:19.439
of the last big things we do. And then we'll have a voicemail dump

1942
02:05:19.439 --> 02:05:25.119
truck on Thursday. But we're probably
not going to do a beast BombCast re

1943
02:05:25.199 --> 02:05:29.000
vengeance this Friday, right, probably
not. I'm gonna go to sleep,

1944
02:05:29.560 --> 02:05:32.960
yeah, and then uh doing a
BombCast next week. It's just no promises,

1945
02:05:33.359 --> 02:05:36.119
like no, there definitely won't be
a live one. For sure.

1946
02:05:36.359 --> 02:05:39.960
We might have something in the feed, but just no promises because it's the

1947
02:05:40.079 --> 02:05:42.239
end of the year and we're kind
of wiped out. Everybody. Okay,

1948
02:05:42.239 --> 02:05:44.279
the Game of your list are going
up, so look out for that of

1949
02:05:44.279 --> 02:05:46.039
the site. Yes, and then
you can catch up with our Game of

1950
02:05:46.039 --> 02:05:48.840
the Year content on there as well. We did we say one more dumb

1951
02:05:48.840 --> 02:05:51.479
brooni too, Yeah, yes,
yeah, okay, we'll have well,

1952
02:05:51.560 --> 02:05:55.159
we will have the Dumb Truck on
Thursday. That will be live, so

1953
02:05:55.199 --> 02:05:58.399
look out for that. That will
last dump of the year, last dump

1954
02:05:58.399 --> 02:06:00.800
of the year, Get your get
your calls in seven oh seven exit flew

1955
02:06:01.359 --> 02:06:06.119
And that does it for the last
episode of the Giant BombCast, at least

1956
02:06:06.119 --> 02:06:11.439
a live episode of the year of
twenty twenty three. Holy holy smokes you

1957
02:06:11.560 --> 02:06:14.359
all week on Unreal Doune did it
we done? Did it? Unreal?

1958
02:06:15.880 --> 02:06:19.279
I am so happy and so proud
of this team. Special shouts out to

1959
02:06:19.399 --> 02:06:24.119
everyone. You know what, I'll
say this for everyone. Thank you to

1960
02:06:24.239 --> 02:06:26.399
Turbo Shawn, thank you to Nikki, thank you to Emma, thank you

1961
02:06:26.399 --> 02:06:28.319
to Bailey. Thank you to Marino, thank you to Chris, thank you

1962
02:06:28.359 --> 02:06:30.439
to Mike, thank you to Tam, thank you to Lucy, thank you

1963
02:06:30.479 --> 02:06:31.479
to Dan, thank you to Jeff, thank you to Jeff, thank you

1964
02:06:31.520 --> 02:06:35.239
to me, and thank you for
the folks at home. You've been absolutely

1965
02:06:35.319 --> 02:06:40.399
amazing this year, whether you've been
a listener for a long time a short

1966
02:06:40.439 --> 02:06:42.920
time. I love you. I'll
kiss you in the mouth if you want

1967
02:06:42.920 --> 02:06:45.039
to reclaim any of your podcast points, actually, you know what, Hey,

1968
02:06:45.119 --> 02:06:46.840
if you just come to me and
be like, Yo, this is

1969
02:06:46.880 --> 02:06:50.439
happening, then hey, it's happening. I've been Jan he's been Jeff.

1970
02:06:50.439 --> 02:06:54.239
He's been Jeff, he's been Dan. You at home have been great.

1971
02:06:54.439 --> 02:06:57.840
We love you. We'll see you
next year for a year episode of The

1972
02:06:57.840 --> 02:07:24.600
Giant Bob Gust. Bye, everyone
on by, I love yall. Goodbye.

1973
02:07:27.239 --> 02:07:30.920
You're doing great. You're doing great. Good job. Bye.

