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Dodger Talk is sponsored by LA Care
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millions of Angelinos for over twenty five
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Talking like Fact, David Vasse,
I try to tell you. I tried

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to warn you complacency was setting in. Welcome to Dodger Talk. David Vasse

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with you until seven thirty tonight here
on a five to seventy LA Sports after

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the Dodgers are swept in Philadelphia for
the first time since two thousand and eight,

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first time the Dodgers are swept by
the Phillies anywhere since the rock bottom

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years of Frank mccork in twenty eleven, the Dodgers get swept in Philadelphia,

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losing tonight five to one. They
have lost four in a row. They

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have lost eight of their last twelve. And I tried to tell you and

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some of those Dodgers players, nobody
wanted to hear it. Though I tried

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to tell them they were an average
team. They needed to start picking it

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up. And complacency may have set
in. And this may be the best

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thing to happen to the Dodgers,
to get their butt whipped in Philadelphia.

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Maybe they needed a wake up call
like this to realize, you know what,

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you're not as good as you think
you are, and you're not playing

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as well as you think you are. You can put blinders on and pretend

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like everything is great. Everything is
not great. I'm sorry to break the

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news to everybody wearing that uniform.
Things have not been great for a while

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now, and since May twenty first, the Dodgers are literally a five hundred

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average team twenty two and twenty two. Remember on the last homestand I told

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you, I spoke to a few
players in the dugout and let them know

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they've only been playing about five hundred
ball. And they pushed back on me,

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and they said, well, we're
three games above five hundred. What

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are you talking about? And I
said, three games above five hundred,

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that's what you're proud of. I
said, that's five hundred baseball. Basically,

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they did not want to hear it. No, no, no,

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no, dumbass vassa dumb dave,
dumb dave. Look, I am invested.

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I want to see these guys bring
a parade to Los Angeles for the

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first time since nineteen eighty eight.
This city is starving for a Dodger parade.

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You can't be complacent. The Dodgers
are heading to Detroit. Maybe Dave

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Roberts wants to bring in Kirk Gibson
into that clubhouse to light a fire and

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to let these guys know. You
can't feel sorry for yourselves just because of

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injuries and just because things are a
little there's a little bit of adversity now

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in the season. I would love
to see that. Eight six six,

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nine eighty seven two five seventy is
the phone number. You know what you

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love to see. You love to
see a superstar player who stands up in

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front of the cameras when things are
going great and when things are not going

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great for the team and for yourself
personally. You know who that guy is.

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Freddie Freeman. Freddie Freeman was zero
for ten in this three game sweep,

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first time wearing a Dodger uniform.
He did not have a hit in

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a three game series. Did Freddie
Freeman hide in the Phillies visiting clubhouse?

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Absolutely not here, he is on
sports net LA. We didn't play very

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good in that series. Is nothing
brilliant, just kind any different way.

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We didn't. We didn't really do
much so as a group we just got

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to put it behind us and you
know, go to Detroit tomorrow and trying

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in this the first half in a
good, good way. Obviously dealing with

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quite a few injuries at the moment. Just do you assess the teams or

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how do you I guess what is
your approach to these types of matchups?

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Yeah, I mean we are injured. We have a lot of guys missing,

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but no one really cares about that, nor does this group in here.

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This is what we got. We
want to go out there and try

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and win every ball game. We
just didn't play very good the series,

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so we've got three games less to
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Is it looking forward to the break? To just kind of catch your breath?

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I mean, we are still the
first place team. We are still

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a very good ball ball team.
So but sometimes breaks come out good times.

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But let's finish it off with a
good series win in Detroit and play

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better baseball and then then it will
be a good time for the break.

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So you guys pop the heart of
their rotation. But what can you kind

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of point to why like the bats, especially like some most key spots this

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week, I have been closed of
the season baseball maybe next week if we

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had the same situation, we get
the hits. I mean, there's not

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really much you can say in baseball. You can't really compoint. We just

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think it the hits. We didn't
really get meny hits the series at all,

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So I wish I could give you
this is why this work didn't work

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or works, But we just think
it hits. The injuries have piled up.

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You go back to the Yankee Series. Guys are of five hundred teams?

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Okay? Is that just the injuries? I mean I would like to

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say yes. I mean we are
missing top five player in the game of

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baseball and Mookie you know, our
rotation that's taken a hit. So but

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the guys I've been thrown for us
and been thrown really good. The guys

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are in there. We got better
guys we expect to when no matter who's

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in this clubhouse, and we just
aren't doing it right now. All right,

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there's Freddy Freeman on sports Net LA, and yes, mister beat Ryder,

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the Dodgers are five hundred, not
since the Yankee Series, but since

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their last extended losing streak. The
beginning of their five game losing streak in

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May. Since then May twenty first, the Dodgers are twenty two and twenty

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two. That was another question some
players in denial had for me, Why

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am I starting at a certain date? Well, I just gave you the

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reason. That was the last time
you lost five games in a row.

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And all of a sudden, now
the Dodgers have lost four in a row

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and they have to face one of
the best pitchers in the American League tomorrow

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and Trek Scouble in Detroit. The
start of the final three games before the

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All Star Break. Eight six six
nine, eight seven two five seventy is

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the phone number. Dodgers fall to
the Phillies five to one. And by

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the way, it wasn't just the
bats not getting the hits. They were

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getting hits. The Dodgers had bases
loaded two different times today. Just mistakes

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hurt them. Uh you know,
show heyl Tani. What was he doing

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swinging at that pitch from Nola in
the second inning that was nowhere close to

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being a strike? Again, He
just isn't seeing the baseball well and is

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worried about getting beat on the fastball. And he hasn't looked. He looks

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like he's back in a slump quite
honestly, eight six, six, nine,

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seven, two five seventy is the
phone number. And let's not mention

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again ta Oscar Hernandez is poor base
running in the eighth inning, which ran

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the Dodgers out of another bases loaded
opportunity against one of the best lefties in

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baseball, Matt Strom. All right, Carlos and San Bernardino lead us off

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on Dodger talk. What do you
got my friend? After this disappointing postseason

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last year, I told him,
I was telling all my friends, I'm

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tired of seeing the Dodgers one up
on. Okay, okay, let's just

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stop right there, pot him down. Let's just stop right there. I

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do not want to hear about October
or the postseason again. Everybody's talking about

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October and the postseason since spring training. You can't win in October, in

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July. The Dodgers are going to
see the Phillies in August after the trade

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deadline. Let's see what that version
of the Dodgers looks like. All right,

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Carlos, Let's see if you could
finish your call without talking about October

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or the World Series. No,
No, what I was trying to get

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at is that I didn't want to
have another one hundred plus win season.

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I want to do. Would you
rather lose seventy? Would you rather lose

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seventy games? No? No,
I just win seventy. You want to

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see you want to see the Dodgers
win seventy. Now that's a ridiculous statement.

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That's a ridiculous statement. No.
What I'm trying to get at is

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that in the twenty seventeen we had
an eleven game season losing streak in the

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September. Yeah, and you look
at twenty eighteen, we had a fight

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for that final wild cause bar and
those teams are hungry. They went into

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the postseason hungry, and we made
it far. We made it to a

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World Series, and who knows how
things would have played out. Dash was

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one cheating and I did. If
they don't put in Ret Madson to relieve

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in that game again, the Reds
because oh, now you're going back to

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twenty seventeen, Carlos, you're all
over the place, You're all over the

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place. Now we're going back and
uh bringing up Ryan Madson in twenty eighteen

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in the playoffs in the World Series, we're talking about Game one sixty three.

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I mean Okay, I get it, And yes, the narrative for

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Dave Roberts and Clayton Kershot would be
much different if the Astros did not cheat,

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and also if the Dodgers did not
take Richhill out of Game two of

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the seventeen World Series as soon as
they did. So I'm not a big

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believer that the trash Cans were the
sole reason why the Dodgers lost. If

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the Dodgers win Game two of the
World Series, they go back to Houston

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up two ozho. But I mean, come on, we're getting way off

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topic here. It's twenty twenty four. You got to let that go to

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a certain extent. Let's go out
to what like, David, Let's see

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if you could do something that not
many can not talk about the World Series

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in July. Dave, thanks for
taking my call, man, And by

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the way, I would never call
you dumb Dave, at least not to

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your faith. Okay, but here's
here's the deal, dude. If you

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ask me if i'd run a root
canal or watch this Dodgers team the way

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they are now, I think I
might go root canal. This is such

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a painful team to watch right now, and I understand we're banged up.

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I get that, but we are
playing like a small market team right now.

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That lineup five through nine is like
the Oakland A's, and that's offensive

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to the Oakland A's. We were
exposed this series and we learned a lot.

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We learned that Vargats is not a
major league left fielder. We learned

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that Outman is not a major league
player. Yet the base running was hideous.

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The the the only positive thing that
I see from this is that is

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that you can only pray that Friedman
watched this series and knows that there has

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to be moved to make because the
inability to put the ball in play with

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runners in scoring position is absolutely abysmal. And you cannot do that in the

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major leagues and if you want to
win anything. So what I want to

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ask you, Dave, is and
there's so many needs that this team has.

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I want to ask you, what
is the most important trade that we

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need to make to turn this thing
around it for the second half of the

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season. It's starting pitching. That's
a simple answer. The Dodgers are decimated

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by injuries and ineffectiveness and waiting on
guys that may never come back. They

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need starting pitching. And it starts
with Garrett Crochet and Nathan Valdi. And

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if they can't get one of those
two guys, go to Toronto and get

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Chris Bassett or Kevin Gossman. I
know I'm starting to hear more about Jack

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Flaherty. Is he really the answer? He might be part of the solution,

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but he's not the guy that I
want to see the Dodgers get and

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be done with. I I totally
agree all those names that you mentioned would

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be great pick us, but I'm
wondering the oblique is a tough, tough

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injury to recover from. And let's
face it, you know Max Munsey coming

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back in mid August, maybe September. I am just not convinced that he

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can contribute like the Max Monthy we're
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I'm wondering if there's a third basement
out there, maybe a package deal

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with the Marlins. I know that
Jake Berger's not having a great season,

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but the guy has a decent glove, he has some slug. You put

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him together with a Tanner Scott a
package deal, you got yourself a seventh

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You know what a lineup that could
you could trade for Bob Bashett and slide

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Miguel Rojas to third base, and
you have Mookie at second, Bashett at

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short, and you have Miguel Rojas
at third. I love that idea,

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DV. But will Friedman give up
the prospects necessary to bring Bobochet here?

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I don't know what the cost is. The Dodgers, i'm sure, are

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telling the Blue Jays he's having a
horrible season, and the blue Jays,

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i'm sure is telling the Dodgers,
well, look at all the other years.

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So I don't know that you can't
give up a bunch of prospects for

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Bashett, for Crochet, for all
these guys. There's just not enough that

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makes sense. So the Dodgers are
going to have to figure that out.

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Thanks a lot for the phone call. I know Andrew Freeman always talks about

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how he has to pivot, and
you can't really pin him down right now

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for July thirtieth, and I feel
like this year, more than any other

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year, at the trade deadline,
that is more true than ever before,

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because there are a number of different
directions he can go, but first and

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foremost, he knows he's got to
solidify this rotation for the postseason. Because

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we just got a taste of the
three best starters for the Phillies without their

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really best starter and Ranger Suarez,
who has a case to start the All

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Star Game. I feel like Paul
Skeenes, who pitched seven no hit innings,

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he's going to get it. But
Suarez, the Phillies have four really

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good starters and four starters that you
could pitch as the number two guy for

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the Dodgers right now, glass now
out. I expect him to come back.

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It feels like the Dodgers are being
extra cautious with his back and managing

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his innings. But I'm not certain
Yoshi Yamamotos coming back. I'm not certain

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Walker Buehler is coming back. And
if he does, is he going to

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be the Walker Buehler we saw when
he was back or is he going to

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be better than that Kershaw. You're
really gonna expect him to be your savior

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again. And Bobby Miller's in Oklahoma
City. So, like I said,

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the Dodgers pitching is the biggest need
at the trade deadline. Eight six six

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nine seven two five seventy is the
phone number. We're gonna take a time

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out here on Dodger Talk when we
continue more of your phone calls, and

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we also have another copy of Perfect
Eloquence and Appreciation of Vin Scully to give

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away. After the Phillies sweep the
Dodgers five to one on air at AM

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five seventy, online at AM five
seventy, LA sports dot com, and

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and Loch Hips. The ball a
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Jason gets to the corner and that
ball is off the pole and gone a

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home run. The ball sliced and
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screen just to the right of the
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it, and Gavin lux hazo home
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a two to one ballgame, Gavin
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inning, as that was the only
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nine strikeouts in six innings tonight.
Gavin Lucks was two for two with that

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solo home run in the fifth inning, but the Dodgers fall to the Phillies

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for the third straight night, five
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Dream. The Dodgers now have lost
eight of their last twelve, four straight,

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scoring only seven runs during that four
game losing streak. You're not gonna

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score a lot of runs when your
first three hit hitters Otani, Will Smith,

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and Freddie Freeman go hitless. Those
three Dodger hitters tonight were combined zero

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four eleven with six strikeouts. You
can't win games when your three best hitters

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don't come through, and really,
Will Smith and Freddie Freeman were non existent

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in this series. Otani kind of
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make a huge impact on this series
either, and Freddie was zero for ten

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in Philadelphia. First time in one
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Dodgers, Freddie was hitless. That's
how steady he has been. Eight six

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six nine eight seven two five seventy
is the phone number. Let's go out

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to Ken in Newport Beach, Hi, Ken, you're on Dodger Talk.

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Hey, David. By the way, I bo I agree with almost every

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thing you've said, starting with the
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pitching problems. Yes, there's problems
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the Dodgers are now three and seven
and last ten games, that's the worst

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record in the Nashley Wess. And
the thing that I'm having trouble with,

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Otani has eighteen strikeouts in the last
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That's what's really killing the team right
now because he's leaving runners on and he's

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swinging at bad pitches, he's pulling
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going on with him? Well,
sometimes it becomes more about me than team

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in my opinion with Otani, Look, he was red hot because he was

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not chasing pitches outside of the strike
zone. And Otani, let's make no

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mistake about it, he's a great
hitter. He's hitting over three hundred,

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but he's a power hitter. He's
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I believe when Mookie Bets comes back, there is no question Mookie should go

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back to the leadoff spot. Intani
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even the three spot, because,
as Mike Soosha used to like to say,

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you want to have your big boys
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those three run home runs that these
analytic people love to talk about. So,

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for me, Otani is a great
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But at heart he in stretches,
starts to look like a slugger that's

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looking for the home run, and
expands his strike zone. Yeah, I

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agree, one hundred percent. I've
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seven is bothering me. But Otani
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All Right, thank you for the
phone call, Ken. I will say

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this. I mean what Ken said
there was a little misleading. As I

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said during the Clubhouse Show, the
silver lining for the Dodgers is the rest

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of the division is not doing much
of anything. The Dodgers have opened up

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the door for the San Diego Padres
and they have not walked through it.

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The Dodgers have lost four in a
row. The Padres, who don't have

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a game tonight and open up a
three game series against the Braves, have

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also lost four in a row.
There's nobody else in the division that has

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a winning streak going. Right now, the Dodgers, even with this ugly

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stretch and really, like I said, being average since the middle of May,

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they still have a seven game lead
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say about the rest of the NL
West? And that's why I understand what

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the frustration's about. It's not about
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win this division. It's more about
how do they set themselves up to be

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ready for the postseason. But I
still maintain you gotta get there first,

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and you want to have one of
the top two seeds so you don't have

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to play in that first round.
And right now, with the Dodgers losing

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four in a row, despite beating
the Brewers two out of three, they're

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back to only being one game ahead
of Milwaukee in the lost column for that

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all important second seed in the National
League postseason. Eight six six nine eight

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seven two five seventy is the phone
number. Let's go out to Century City.

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Zach, you're on Dodger Talk.
How you doing? Not too bad?

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Dave, good to talk to you. Thank you. My question is,

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yeah, of course, sort of. I guess a bright side that

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this ugly baseball that the Dodgers have
been playing is that a lot of their

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mistakes are preventable, and especially with
this break coming up, what do you

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think that they're going to do and
what should they do to sort of address

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those very preventable mistakes, you know, questionable base running, things like that,

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you know, chasing pitches, all
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back to your mentality and your focus, Zach. I think you have to

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have the focus and you can't see
the finish line of the All Star break

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and the vacation with your kids and
going to Texas and having a good time

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at the All Star Game. You've
got to be able to run through that

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finish line. And for me,
it feels like, and I felt this

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way for the last couple of weeks, the Dodgers have become complacent and they

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feel like it's just going to happen
for them. And a lot of these

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players have wanted opportunities, have complained
about being platoon players, and now they're

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getting that everyday chance and they're trying
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Yeah, I really hope they I
hate to bring it up. I

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know you say don't bring up October, but I really hope they can shake

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this complacency by then, because it's
going to become a big issue if it's

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not addressed. So let's talk about
it. Let's talk about the Dodgers after

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the trade deadline, and we can
assess what they were able to do to

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plug some of these holes. Hey, Zach, would you like a copy

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of Perfect Eloquence an Appreciation for Vincecully? That would be amazing. Thanks so

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much to Hey, My pleasure,
Christmas came early. Hold on, Zach,

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will get your information in a second. Eight six six nine eighty seven

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two five seventy is the phone number. Yes, it's a book compiled by

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Tom Hofarth with a bunch of different
stories from a wide variety of different people

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that worked around Vin Scully, played
for the Dodgers, broadcasted around Vin Sculley,

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and fans of Vin Sculley Perfect Eloquence
and Appreciation of Vin Sculley, and

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no, I was not asked to
give my story if you were wondering.

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Eight six six ninet eighty seven two
five seventy is the phone number. Let's

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go out to Eric in Hollywood.
You're on Dodger Talk with David vasse Hi,

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Eric Dodger Dish. Sure, wow, man, we got owned by

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the best team in the National League. Dv Our. Pitching is hurting in

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this series. I saw what good
pitching, that good hitty. We'll get

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you man, when everybody's on pun
stuff like that. I mean, they're

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gonna take it to you, man. But but that's where we need to

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get to it. And I get
it. I get it. This one

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hurts, but it's early. We
can fix this. Dv tag Freedman.

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Let them know we need a bitching. A starter is needed. Mueller and

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Kursh will come. I know they
were gonna come around, but we need

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a bridge to these guys. So
we're gonna need to pick up a pitcher.

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We needed to pitch up a starter. And you're right. I mean,

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I just heard earlier what you said. We need guys to step up.

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Hey, outman, got called back
up. Do something, Bargain,

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You're back do something, geek it
ceet do something. You know what I

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mean. It's a tough, tough
thing. Baseball is a hard game and

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I'm not gonna get down like I
did last time. Bro. You picked

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me up with the Yankee series like
you pick me up big time, bro,

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And I love you for that,
and I won't get down again.

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But man, dbe, give me
something, Babah, give me something.

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Let me know we're gonna bring this. I mean, I'm a little down

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now. Well I'm a little down
right now, but I'm up all right,

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all right, Eric, thank you
for the phone call. All I

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could tell you is going into this
series against the Phillies, if you were

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listening, I felt like the Dodgers
were vulnerable to lose the series and probably

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lose two out of three. Did
I believe it was going to be a

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sweep. No, but it turned
out to be that way. But I

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felt like going into this series,
the Dodgers were not going into it with

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a full complement of their players.
And that's why I kind of warned you

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that this series. Yes, everybody's
going to be hyped for it, Yes

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everybody's going to be excited, but
it's really not a reflection of what it

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may look like even the next time
these two teams play each other at Dodgers

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Stadium in August, when the Dodgers
hopefully get healthier, I'm sure Tyler glass

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Now will be back by then.
Mookie Betts by the time the Philly come

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to Dodgers Stadium, maybe getting close
to returning Max Munsey obviously more than likely

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won't be. And then you add
in the players the Dodgers hopefully acquire at

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the trade deadline. So the August
matchup, forget about October, is going

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to look a lot different than what
it's looking like in this three game,

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ugly sweep in Philadelphia. And the
Phillies are a really good team. Don't

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forget the fact they went to a
Game seven in the World Series two years

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ago and then last year basically gave
away the NLCS to the Diamondbacks in Game

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six. And they are still hungry. They are still upset about the way

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their season ended last year, and
they have not come into the season taking

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anything for granted. And they added
to their staff. They brought back Aaron

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Nola, who the Dodgers had interest
in. They have four really good starting

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pitchers and that that's the reason why
they have baseball's best record at sixty one

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and thirty two and the top seed
right now in the National League playoff picture.

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Let's go out to Javier in La. You're on Dodger Talk, Hi,

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Javier, Hey, Dave how are
you. I'm doing good. It's

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all good. I just want to
ask you two things. Do you think

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after the break, will Bigio and
Lux still be on the project? And

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then do you think Autman is good? He's just not good with us,

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like I guess, kind of situation
like what we did with Michael Bush.

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I just feel like James Outman maybe
trying to do too much. And look,

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he had issues in center field last
year. We saw it in Game

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one of the NLDS last year he
dropped the ball and that kind of started

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the title wave. I'm not going
to get down on James Outman. That

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seemed to be a very tough center
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So for whatever reason, centerfield was
giving them trouble. And in Philadelphia,

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by the way, they've been calling
for a better center fielder than Johan

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you Rojas who rob Keik Hernandez of
extra bases in the seventh inning. So

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I'm not going to come down on
James Outman right now. He looks better

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as a hitter the defense. He's
not a Gold Glover. I'll just put

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it that way. Javier cool.
All right, thanks for the phone call,

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and for those that are asking for
Kevin Kiermeyer in centerfield for the Dodgers.

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Yeah, he would be great defensively. But do the Dodgers need another

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hitter that's hitting in the low two
hundreds. I would say no, I

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don't feel like they need that.
Maybe the Phillies can afford to add to

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Kevin Kiermeyer, but the Dodgers cannot
afford to do that. They are looking

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to add an outfielder that can extend
their lineup Arandia rose Arena, a Luis

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Robert that can hit seventh, have
pressure off them and be a playoff performer

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because arose Arena certainly has done that
in his career. Let's go out to

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you kaipa. Eric, You're on
Dodger Talk with David Vasse after the Dodgers

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lose to the Phillies five to one. Hey, what's up, Dave.

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Everything's all good. This is Eric
the golfer again calling you from your KaiA.

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How can I forget? But it's
all right, Yeah, man,

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thank you for having me on.
Hey Man, So, yeah, I

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wanted to talk about trade talks and
stuff, but you guys already kind of

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covered that. But yeah, Freeman's
got to go do his job. Get

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some starting pitching. But Hey,
Dave, I like the old school baseball.

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Like I talk to people about Brett
Butler, nobody knows who Brett Butler

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is. We have outman that can
be up Brett Butler. He's got speed,

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he's athletic. Stop it here,
Eric, he doesn't resemble anything that

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Brett Butler did. Brett Butler development, Dave, No, there are two

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different types of players, Eric,
and no. There is no player that

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is being developed today that plays the
game the way Brett Butler did. And

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there was a reason why they called
him busy. They called him bugsy because

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okay, that's fine. You love
Brett Butler. I love Brett Butler too.

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But to compare James Outman to Brett
Butler's game, that's apples and oranges.

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Eric, I think that's that's what
baseball on East if we had some

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of the athletic member toldy Man that
guy was awesome. He was getting on

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base all the time, stealing bases. I'm with you, I don't mind

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having a Brett Butler type leading off. He used to have thirty bunt base

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hits infield singles every season and steal
forty bases. He was a slap hitter.

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He was a great table setter and
really excelled with the Dodgers when he

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came over. He was one of
those players that you loved when he was

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on your team, but you hated
him when he was on somebody else's team,

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especially when he was wearing the Giants
uniform. So I'm a Brett Butler

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fan, Eric, I've had him
on the show before, but there is

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nobody in baseball that resembles Brett Butler, and I'm not sure it's ever going

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back to that, man, I
sure hope, So, Dave, I

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love that kind of baseball. I
mean, you get those guys that are

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annoying. They're always on base,
moving a round, shuffling around at first

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base, second base. There's nothing
like that anymore. Wouldn't you say Trey

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Turner would be a better comp than
James Outman. Trey Turner was that this

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entire series. He was on base, he was hitting home runs, he

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was stealing bases. So to me, Trey Turner was what you're describing.

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Trey Turner destroyed the Dodgers in this
series. In the three game sweep against

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the Dodgers, Trey Turner was seven
for twelve, two home runs six RBIs

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he hit a grand Slam in the
first game. He hits a home run

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in the first inning and completely rips
up the script the Dodgers had for the

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opener. So Trey Turner was that
guy in this series. Eight six six

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ninety eight seven two five seventy is
the phone number. Dodgers get swept in

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Philadelphia for the first time since two
thousand and eight. They lose five to

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one tonight. Let's go out to
Gilberto and San Diego, one of my

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favorite callers. Q pasa Gilberto,
all of that it comost pass. Oh,

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I've been better, Gilberto, but
hey, having a good time talking

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baseball, me too, and about
that color, about butter too. But

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you know then there's nobody like him. And one thing, David, I

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know what is going We're going to
a roller coaster right now. And I

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don't mind that really, So they
can have some introspection and figure out what's

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going on. They still have time, but they need to put it together.

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The one thing that you haven't I
think you mentioned it, but very

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lightly. The bottom of the order
is getting on base. There's just the

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top of the order is not picking
them up. Before it was the bottom.

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The top of the order doing everything
and the bottom doing nothing. Well,

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I feel like a little bit more. Did you see today's game,

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Gavin Lux was the only guy that
did much of anything. Key k Hernandez

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was over to Chris Taylor had three
walks, which was nice to see.

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He did some good things tonight.
So it feels like some nights more than

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others, and more times than not
recently, the bottom of the order is

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not setting the table. That's what's
been happening. But lately I've seen that

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they've been kidding. They shown they've
done better than what they did the first

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two months of the season. That's
right, and that's what I'm going for.

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And uh, the top of the
orders having a hard time. I

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hope they put it together. They
still have time. But yeah, very

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good July. They all have a
very good Roberto. You're talking about the

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top of the order, Otani,
Will Smith and Fred Freeman. They've been

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there all year long. I feel
like you don't have much to worry about,

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and you don't have to go to
church on Sunday to worry about those

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three guys. Oh, I know
that I know that they're gonna go.

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Maybe you light a candle for the
trade deadline for our pitcher. Can you

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do that on Sunday? I don't
do that on Sundays. I can do

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it today though. All right,
let's do it. Light a candle tonight.

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Thanks, Gilberto appreciated. Eight six
six nine eight seven two five seventy

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is the phone number. Dodgers fall
to the Phillies five to one. All

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right, we got a full board
of calls here, but we're going to

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the bottom of the hour. The
Dodgers certainly have been playing very average.

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I wouldn't say horrible. They've given
us a lot of excitement the first half

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of the season, but leaving us
wanting more. And I'm not sure if

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that's us being spoiled. It may
be partly because of that, but also

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the other part of it is,
uh, they have a lot of good

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players and they just really haven't been
able to put it together. I'm not

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sure what's quite missing even when they
have their full lineup, but they have

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a lot of talent and hopefully the
chemistry can come together the second half of

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the season. And tomorrow the Dodgers
are going to face I know the Tigers

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are five games under five hundred.
They're playing better baseball recently, and the

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Dodgers are going to face one of
the best pitchers in baseball and Trek Skouble,

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so it doesn't get any easier.
So we'll see where it goes from

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here. But I fully expect the
Dodgers to win two out of three in

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Detroit. Going into the All Star
Break, I felt like this series was

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the series the Dodgers were going to
be vulnerable in. But come on,

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you're telling me the Dodgers don't have
enough to beat the Tigers. They have

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enough. Now here's my concern going
out of the break. The pitching situation

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is not changing. Tyler Glass now
is not going to be off the IL

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for that Red Sox series, and
very questionable he'll be off the IL during

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that four game Giant series. Bobby
Miller, according to Dave Roberts, needs

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to make at least one start for
Oklahoma City. He's not going to be

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back for the first seven games of
the second half because in Minor League Baseball

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now they mirror the All Star Break. There's no games. That's why Clayton

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Kershaw had to rush to Oklahoma City. He's pitching on Saturday because Oklahoma City

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has no games during the All Star
break, so you're going to be without

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Yamamoto, Tyler Glass now, and
Bobby Miller to start the second half.

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So I'm not concerned about how the
Dodgers piece this together in Detroit. My

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concern is how do they piece this
together to come out of the All Star

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Break and get off to a good
start and continue to separate themselves from not

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only the Padres, but they're in
a dog fight right now with the Brewers

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to avoid having to play the best
of three Wildcards series. That's my concern.

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I think everybody is a little shortsighted
to think going into the All Star

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Break and coming out of it is
going to cure all the Dodgers pitching maneuvering

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with all these injuries and ineffectiveness.
It's not how do the Dodgers get The

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question is how do the Dodgers get
to July thirtieth. That's the real question

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that'll do it for us. On
Dodger Talk tonight, I mean, we

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could go on and on and on
about you being very upset with the Dodgers.

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The good news is there's a game
tomorrow. Even better news, there's

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Dodger Talk after the game tomorrow and
we'll take your phone calls tomorrow night as

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well. Thanks to Colin Ye at
our Burbank Studios. Thanks to Dwayne McDonald

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out at Philadelphia on his way to
Detroit. We got an intern in here

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too, right, Colin, who's
your intern? Mike? Mike the intern

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supposedly play college baseball Division four in
Boston somewhere. Maybe Richell knows him.

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Tomorrow, James Paxton, the Big
Maple, as Tim Kates likes to call

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him, will be on the mound. Paxton is seven and two with an

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ERA of four to twenty four.
Who would have thought James Paxton would be

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the lone man standing as we go
into the All Star break? Nobody thought

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that, and here he is,
Like I mentioned, school ball going for

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the Tigers, ten and three with
an ERA of two thirty seven. Morongo

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Casino Dodgers on Deck begins at two
thirty with first pitch at three forty coming

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up next here on a five seventy. LA Sports will be Fox Sports Radio

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and we will talk to you tomorrow. Have a great rest of your tap

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that Thursday. Once again, the
final score in Philadelfia, the Phillies defeat

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the Dodgers five to one, see
them,

