WEBVTT 1 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:28.920 Hello, there, everybody, and I am here with Adam Turrell of Third 2 00:00:29.039 --> 00:00:32.719 Window Films. Adam, I'm so thankful that you're doing this. Third Window 3 00:00:32.759 --> 00:00:36.600 has been special for me for a long time, so thank you for taking 4 00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:40.159 the time to step in and talk about you guys, Thanks for having me 5 00:00:40.159 --> 00:00:45.920 on and for loving or liking at least for the label. Third Window Films 6 00:00:46.039 --> 00:00:49.640 has done a lot over the years. First of all, you guys have 7 00:00:49.640 --> 00:00:53.079 been around a lot longer than people think you were. What are we at, 8 00:00:53.119 --> 00:00:56.880 like sixteen seventeen or something like that. I stopped in two thousand. 9 00:00:56.880 --> 00:01:00.280 I started acquiring in two thousand and five, but my first release was two 10 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:04.640 thousand and seven, So yes, I've been releasing for more than fifteen years, 11 00:01:04.640 --> 00:01:10.359 but around for seventeen. You know when I did there, It was 12 00:01:10.359 --> 00:01:14.599 the fifteenth anniversary of the first release a few weeks ago, and I really 13 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:19.040 forgotten when I'm looking back at it, quite apalgic. But yeah, it 14 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:23.879 has been a long time, and not only has you know, the industry 15 00:01:23.959 --> 00:01:27.040 seen a lot of changes, the trends of releases seen a lot of changes, 16 00:01:27.079 --> 00:01:30.280 but you, personally, I'm sure, have seen a lot of changes 17 00:01:30.280 --> 00:01:34.239 in the last fifteen years. You recently just moved and now you're in Japan. 18 00:01:34.319 --> 00:01:38.879 Correct. Actually, I've been in Japan since for about nearly ten years. 19 00:01:38.920 --> 00:01:44.079 I moved over to work on a film called The Land of Hope, 20 00:01:44.319 --> 00:01:48.599 a film, and since that allowed me to sort of get a visa and 21 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:51.760 get a foothold here, and for the first few years I was half and 22 00:01:51.840 --> 00:01:55.680 half. But really for the last seven eight years I've been here full time 23 00:01:56.400 --> 00:02:00.920 and I don't think I could go back to England, to be honest, 24 00:02:00.599 --> 00:02:04.480 that's fantastic. I mean, if you love it that much, I'm certainly 25 00:02:04.519 --> 00:02:07.159 jealous. I've wanted to make my way out there for quite some time, 26 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:10.039 and I've got young kids, which makes it. A couple of people will 27 00:02:10.039 --> 00:02:14.120 think that makes it like twice as difficult. It's actually like ten times as 28 00:02:14.159 --> 00:02:21.639 difficult. The stuff that you guys put out is there like a definition of 29 00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:23.960 what you try to say. Third Window Films tries to distribute to the world. 30 00:02:25.479 --> 00:02:30.400 Basically, I've been just trying to release films that aren't getting released for 31 00:02:30.400 --> 00:02:35.439 one reason or another, mainly because they're probably not that commercial or they're not 32 00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:38.479 that popular. And you know, there's a lot of Japanese films I think 33 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:43.879 people really don't truly understand how many films are made here each year. For 34 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:49.319 a country of which films don't go overseas, there's about six hundred films made 35 00:02:49.319 --> 00:02:53.759 every year and only really like a small handful of them get overseas. So 36 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:55.159 there's a lot, I mean, to be honest, there's a lot of 37 00:02:55.280 --> 00:03:00.960 crap, But there's a lot of crap everywhere in American Independent cinema has its 38 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:05.560 pitfalls as well. But you know, I just try to do my best 39 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:10.159 about getting as many films that I like and aren't getting at the light of 40 00:03:10.280 --> 00:03:15.479 day and getting them out there? Am I right in remembering that third windows 41 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:20.840 pretty much? All you yes? And that's the only way that I've been 42 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:23.840 able to do what I'm able to do. I think if I had staff 43 00:03:23.840 --> 00:03:27.280 in an office and all that, then you know, there'd be these overheads 44 00:03:27.280 --> 00:03:29.719 and then you have to start thinking, you know, in a business minded 45 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:32.639 sense, and that I'm not terribly business minded and I'm awful at delegating. 46 00:03:32.719 --> 00:03:37.599 So maybe it just became me because I'm quite stubborn in that way. But 47 00:03:37.639 --> 00:03:42.400 it also I think helps with being able to get these tiny Japanese films out 48 00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:45.680 there and also being able to speak Japanese and do a lot of the work 49 00:03:45.919 --> 00:03:50.360 behind the scenes like the subtitling and the shooting. The bonus features myself and 50 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:54.039 editing and doing all the layouts for the artwork and all that. And over 51 00:03:54.080 --> 00:03:59.319 the years it's become yes, just just it always was me. But initially 52 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:01.960 I used to source some jobs, and now I try to do everything as 53 00:04:02.039 --> 00:04:08.439 much as possible by myself in my little Tokyo Obamas. That is beyond impressive. 54 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:10.439 I mean, the amount of work that it takes to do some of 55 00:04:10.479 --> 00:04:13.759 these, especially in the last year you guys have it seems like made an 56 00:04:13.759 --> 00:04:15.959 effort to put out some some I hate to use the word bigger titles, 57 00:04:16.000 --> 00:04:20.639 but they're more they're more like mainstream to capture some new viewers, it appears, 58 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:26.079 And I mean the the effort. That's something I was gonna talk about 59 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:29.319 this one later, but something like this that you guys put out that that 60 00:04:29.480 --> 00:04:32.639 has to take a lot from you. Yeah, but that's not really getting 61 00:04:32.639 --> 00:04:35.439 any new viewers, to be honest. I mean, there's that's that's more 62 00:04:35.439 --> 00:04:40.399 of a passion project because I really wanted to help the director because he's had 63 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:46.480 so many troubles in the past. Japan was quite strict on any criminal offensive 64 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:51.959 offenses, and their idea of a criminal offense is quite stricter than maybe Western. 65 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:56.879 So he's had some problems with like tiny amounts of marijuana in the past 66 00:04:56.959 --> 00:05:00.720 or something that's had him blacklisted. And I've always liked him as a person 67 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:04.319 as a filmmaker, so I put the extra effort in to promote him and 68 00:05:04.360 --> 00:05:09.480 to keep his name alive, because you know, I think without having films 69 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:15.079 out on a physical format, there is even if they're only selling small amounts. 70 00:05:15.120 --> 00:05:17.720 You know, in ten years time will that have It's like a tree 71 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:21.160 falls in the woods. You know, if it isn't out there and a 72 00:05:21.199 --> 00:05:26.360 lot and in people's hands, then in ten years time it could be forgotten. 73 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:29.720 And that's the same for all directors, if their work is not out 74 00:05:29.759 --> 00:05:32.279 there in people's hands, in people's houses, whether or not they constantly watched 75 00:05:32.319 --> 00:05:34.199 them or not. You know, I think it's for the sake of the 76 00:05:34.240 --> 00:05:39.680 future. It's really important. So the Toyota's things were more just a yes, 77 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:43.199 a passion of love, and you know, all the hours put into 78 00:05:43.240 --> 00:05:45.680 it wasn't that hard. Because I'm quite friends with him, so I go 79 00:05:45.759 --> 00:05:47.560 to it. We go, he comes to my house and we we put 80 00:05:47.600 --> 00:05:51.519 my computer on it, which just record the audio commentary into into my computer 81 00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:56.439 as it is. So it's obviously the subtitling at takes time, but you 82 00:05:56.439 --> 00:05:59.800 know it's it's yeah, just to help him out as much as possible. 83 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:04.199 That's still it's you're obviously speaking with a lot of humility, but it's still 84 00:06:04.199 --> 00:06:08.319 a lot of work. And one of the things that I try to do 85 00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:11.920 on my channel and the way that I am discussing with these people that are 86 00:06:11.920 --> 00:06:15.879 into this hobby is really break down how much work these are because a lot 87 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:19.480 of people take them for granted. And one of the biggest complaints nowadays is 88 00:06:19.639 --> 00:06:24.120 pricing, especially you know, the entire world. We're in the middle of 89 00:06:24.199 --> 00:06:27.920 a giant inflation surge over the last couple of years. People are out of 90 00:06:27.959 --> 00:06:30.040 work, people are I mean, people are literally dying across the globe. 91 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:33.439 And so, yes, physical media is low on the priority list and the 92 00:06:33.439 --> 00:06:38.279 grand scheme of those things. But if you are going to take the time 93 00:06:38.319 --> 00:06:41.519 to appreciate these things, it's important to know what goes into them and the 94 00:06:41.519 --> 00:06:44.639 people behind them. So that's the main reason I wanted to have you on 95 00:06:44.680 --> 00:06:48.920 here today so people could see the face behind third window and perhaps feel more 96 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:53.800 of the tug on the heartstring to dive more into Japanese cinema. So, 97 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:57.680 first of all, again, thank you for all of these releases. The 98 00:06:57.680 --> 00:07:00.160 first one I wanted to highlight because I feel like this is what brought a 99 00:07:00.199 --> 00:07:03.240 lot of people to you guys for the first time. Is one kind of 100 00:07:03.279 --> 00:07:06.879 the dead. I think you had a huge hand in this, right well, 101 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:11.600 I think that's yes, it was such a successful hit, but that 102 00:07:11.720 --> 00:07:15.639 had a lot of work that I put into it personally. That was a 103 00:07:15.639 --> 00:07:20.680 film that I took on way before was released in Japan, and I love 104 00:07:20.720 --> 00:07:24.240 that film so much. I mean, when I'm looking for a film to 105 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:29.279 distribute, you know, if that film has not become popular through film festivals, 106 00:07:29.319 --> 00:07:32.240 through international media and this andaps, then it becomes very hard to actually 107 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:34.959 distribute the film. For example, for a film I've got I had I 108 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:39.879 discribted recently called Zoki, it didn't play any film festivals because the sales agent 109 00:07:39.879 --> 00:07:42.720 want so good about it to getting into film festivals, and therefore when it's 110 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:46.000 released, it had no fanfare and nobody wanted to pick it up. So 111 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:48.720 I'm always nervous that, you know, if I leave it all up to 112 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:54.199 these sales agents of these producers, then it's no point me distributing it because 113 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:56.800 they're gonna screw it up one way or another. The Japanese are very good 114 00:07:56.839 --> 00:08:01.439 at the international So what I did is in the cases of One Kind of 115 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:03.120 the Dead and many other films like Beyond the Infant two Minutes, is if 116 00:08:03.160 --> 00:08:07.240 it's a film I want to distribute, i'd go to them the very beginning 117 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:11.399 and said, look, let me bring your film worldwide and act as a 118 00:08:11.439 --> 00:08:15.600 sales agent, put it into film festivals, you know, make the correct 119 00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:18.480 artwork so it's going to be popular and get picked up, and do everything 120 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:22.839 everything required to get that film out there. Then bring it all around the 121 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:26.360 world for a year or two, sell it to other distributors as well, 122 00:08:26.680 --> 00:08:31.200 and then distributed myself, so that all the work I put into it also 123 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:35.519 comes back to me in that respect. And One Kind of the Dead was 124 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:37.840 one that I I bought to like one hundred and fifty film festivals, and 125 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:43.639 also in order to keep the cost down for the for the producer, where 126 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:46.559 he made a lot of money, in the end anyway, But like only 127 00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:50.480 had like three DCPs over one hundred film festivals. So like every cost, 128 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:54.559 bring all the cost of subtitling. I'll do that. You know, let's 129 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:56.320 not make any expensive DCPs. The you know, if it's if you if 130 00:08:56.320 --> 00:08:58.799 you give to a big company to handle it's like, well, we have 131 00:08:58.840 --> 00:09:01.919 to go can and we have to market it there, and that's going to 132 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:05.200 cost you like twenty thousand dollars because of our hotel, and then we're gonna 133 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:07.519 go to this send stuff on this and then we're gonna be needly like one 134 00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:09.360 hundred DCPs and like three hundred posters and all that. And it's like no, 135 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:13.039 no, no, let's cut all those costs off. And I'm just 136 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:16.519 gonna just put time and effort in and get that film to one hundred and 137 00:09:16.519 --> 00:09:20.919 fifty film festivals without costing anything. So it's all profit as well. So 138 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:22.559 yeah, I really put a lot of effort in, and of course it's 139 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:26.200 a fantastic film, But there are many fantastic films out there that don't get 140 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:31.240 out there because of the sales agents wanting too much money for it or something. 141 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:35.279 I mean, there are so many examples of Asians films that should be 142 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:39.159 more well known and aren't because the companies that handle them are a bit of 143 00:09:39.159 --> 00:09:43.840 a pain. So yes, One Cutter was one that I think, yes, 144 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:48.120 really did help my company get out get out there, but it was 145 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:52.720 you know, years of work as well. Well. It shows and that 146 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:56.919 release is special, not only just for the film itself, but everything that 147 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:01.120 is on that disc, the pack of it. It was quite obvious that 148 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:05.360 it was somebody that had this as a passion project. So again, just 149 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:09.440 everything is evident that when you are putting your mind to it, these they 150 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:13.559 can be incredible. And I just hats off to you for one person being 151 00:10:13.600 --> 00:10:18.759 able to produce all of this is astonishing. And I'm I'm curious because if 152 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:22.879 I remember right, most, probably not most, but a lot of the 153 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:26.559 films on the label, they're not available literally anywhere else, right, Yeah, 154 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:30.679 in many cases it's the only release. Even for example, with the 155 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:35.279 Toysti Tokota films, some of them are not even available in Japan, right. 156 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:39.159 I mean a recently Funky Forest and Warped Forest Walkforest was never released in 157 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:41.960 any format, not even in cinemas in Japan, So it was the first 158 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:46.559 time the film was ever released outside of a film festival, and that I 159 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:48.879 mean, I also think that because these films have such a limited audience, 160 00:10:50.159 --> 00:10:52.000 that if it isn't the only release of the film out there, then I 161 00:10:52.039 --> 00:10:56.600 don't think it'll be you know, it'll sell an up to break even. 162 00:10:56.879 --> 00:11:00.919 And even in those cases for example, I mean you mention the fact that, 163 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:03.759 of course, you know, there's so many Blue Rays release companies out 164 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:07.440 there, and there's only so much money that these people have, but how 165 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:11.799 many copies it does take to break even on how many copies sold? It 166 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:15.639 takes a break even on these releases. And you know, for example, 167 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:18.759 if a film like Crazy thunder Road, which is was the only release of 168 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:24.159 the film in forty years outside of Japan, and it hasn't even sold one 169 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:26.519 thousand copies, which is the break even point, so you know, and 170 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:30.879 that's that's not so expensive. I mean, if you're you're paying like thirteen 171 00:11:30.960 --> 00:11:35.440 fourteen pounds by the disc the only version of and with loads of exclusive extras 172 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:37.480 as well, and yet that if that hasn't broken even, So you know, 173 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:41.840 I think I try to bring the price down as much as I can, 174 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:45.200 but you know, a lot of these times don't even break even, 175 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:48.799 and that is that's why I need films like One Kind of the Dead and 176 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:54.519 Hero or the Goblin and the obvious titles to balance those others. Yeah, 177 00:11:54.679 --> 00:11:58.600 So for if you're open to sharing, is one thousand usually about the break 178 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:03.480 even for for most titles, Yes, I mean usually if you want to 179 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:07.759 pay any sort of guarantee, which is required to usually license the films, 180 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:11.600 then ucually the cost of breaking even on for example, the Blu ray author 181 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:16.559 ring the manufacturing of a thousand units, the certification costs by the DVFCNE all 182 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:18.679 that you're talking about six hundred units or five hundred units, and then you 183 00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:22.200 have the price you have to pay to acquire the film with public that and 184 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:28.080 yes, it takes about a thousand a thousand copies to break even, and 185 00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:33.120 it's hard to sell a thousand copies nowadays, to be honest, that hurts 186 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:37.200 with some of your obviously, like one Colored Dead is a bigger title with 187 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:43.639 some of the smaller titles. How well, like I wasn't gonna bring this 188 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:46.279 one up yet, but Ruined Heart I just watched this for the first time 189 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:48.600 the other night, and this movie, first of all, it's a beautiful 190 00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:52.840 movie. This is such an astonishing release. Not sure your history with this 191 00:12:52.879 --> 00:12:56.200 one. I've not gotten to any of the extras on it, other than 192 00:12:56.600 --> 00:13:01.039 the music is incredible. It is shot magnificently. But I don't feel like 193 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:05.960 anybody's talking about this film. So if you can, how many have you 194 00:13:05.960 --> 00:13:11.200 sold a Ruined Heart that just sold its thousands copy? Only one thousands were 195 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:15.399 made and we're talking about I don't know, six years ago. It took 196 00:13:15.480 --> 00:13:20.919 about six years to sell them through just one thousand copies. But that's an 197 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:26.120 experimental film, and I really can't exp break people unless you're really into experimental 198 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:30.240 cinema. I don't think it's easy you want to get into. But it's 199 00:13:30.279 --> 00:13:33.960 a very interesting release with a nice booklet, the soundtrack CD, and you 200 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:39.200 know, for people that want to try something, who want to try something 201 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:43.799 that experimental with like those sales points of Asano Tabnovu, Christopher Doyle music by 202 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:48.440 Stereotolso I mean it's an interesting package. But yes, it's a bit of 203 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:52.320 a hard one to recommend. I mean that came about by a company called 204 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:58.080 Rapid Eye Movies, who are a German distributor of Asian and cult cinema who've 205 00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:01.759 been around for about twenty years more, and they were a company that I 206 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:05.919 used to love before I got into distribution, and I really respected them and 207 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:09.480 that the owner of that company, a guy called Stefan Holl, went into 208 00:14:09.559 --> 00:14:13.120 film production, first with the film called Underwater Love, which I released, 209 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:16.039 and recently and afterwards with Ruined Heart and a few others, and I always 210 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:20.519 wanted to support him because he's also in a lot of trouble as a distributor, 211 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:26.039 and going into production as well makes things even harder. So in those 212 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:30.840 releases that I just wanted to help him. Underwater Love and Ruined Hearts and 213 00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:35.240 the Pink films as well, we're projects of his, and yes they were. 214 00:14:35.320 --> 00:14:39.480 He bought a film scanner and he tried to scan all these old pink 215 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:41.240 films, but the costs were too expensive. So I was like, Okay, 216 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:45.919 I'll help you distribute them and pay you money to cover your costs, 217 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:50.080 and just to help him keep going with what he loves because I love him 218 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:52.600 as a person and I learned to respect his company. So yeah, it's 219 00:14:54.879 --> 00:14:58.799 it's hard for everyone who tries to do these sort of non mainstream films. 220 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:03.480 I think, well, I hope the overall karma of you trying to share 221 00:15:03.480 --> 00:15:07.480 that has come back to you many times over because some of these, again 222 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:09.879 I fear that no one would get to see some of these because they would 223 00:15:09.919 --> 00:15:16.159 never literally never get a release. So something like ruine Hart obviously has a 224 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:20.159 lower audience and it just got to a thousand over six years. But some 225 00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:24.159 of these other like the Toyota box sets, have those done fairly well for 226 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:28.799 you. The first box set I made two thousand and they literally just sold 227 00:15:28.840 --> 00:15:33.720 out over the last year and that was that was about took about five six 228 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:37.039 years, and that wasn't They were all region releases of three films that had 229 00:15:37.080 --> 00:15:43.039 never been released nine so also have been released on DVD before, but they 230 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:46.720 were the first Blu ray releases in the world, not even in Japan, 231 00:15:46.759 --> 00:15:50.840 were they And that took, yes some about six years to sell two thousand 232 00:15:50.879 --> 00:15:54.639 and at a much cheaper price point than the new book set because of the 233 00:15:54.679 --> 00:16:00.960 fact that through COVID a lot of the costs for manufacturing and everything else has 234 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:03.480 gone up, which is why I've had to release so many more mainstream films 235 00:16:03.480 --> 00:16:07.759 over the last couple of years, because it's really really really gotten a lot 236 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:11.200 harder. So that the new toilet box that had a much higher price point 237 00:16:11.039 --> 00:16:15.240 but more films, and in totally it's all about eight hundred copies so far, 238 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:19.279 but I had the press two thousands because the cost of pressing just one 239 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:25.559 thousand makes the per unit cost way too months I've still got yeah, thousand 240 00:16:25.639 --> 00:16:32.039 copies boxes. Well, I hope this inspires at least some people to check 241 00:16:32.039 --> 00:16:36.240 them out, because a lot of these are just beautiful, touching movies and 242 00:16:36.519 --> 00:16:41.559 they are quite obvious somebody's like life's work encapsulated in one film in many of 243 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:48.600 these instances, and that is it's so hard to see nowadays because especially with 244 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:52.919 people that are just into Western cinema and they're you know, overridden with studioed, 245 00:16:53.039 --> 00:16:56.679 water down trash. Basically, not to put those down too much, 246 00:16:56.720 --> 00:17:02.639 but a lot of the culture you can find in these. You can't really 247 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:06.319 pay for an experience like that unless you're going to do something like this, 248 00:17:06.440 --> 00:17:11.240 and it's astonishing what you've been able to release. But just luckily, especially 249 00:17:11.279 --> 00:17:17.079 being in Japan, has allowed me to work directly with directors and producers without 250 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:22.240 needing to go through studios, which make things more expensive and more complicated dealing 251 00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:26.359 with Japanese companies in general, is is very hard for Westerners because it's a 252 00:17:26.359 --> 00:17:30.680 completely opposite way of working, and because Japan is such an island nation. 253 00:17:32.279 --> 00:17:33.519 You know, I'm from England, which is an islandation of course, but 254 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:38.000 it's very different in the fact that Japan everything is domestic and all the films 255 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:41.279 make their money back in Japan, so they don't think about the international markets, 256 00:17:41.319 --> 00:17:45.839 and they don't really understand the international market. So for me to go 257 00:17:45.880 --> 00:17:49.279 to them and explain to them, you know, your costs that you're asking 258 00:17:49.319 --> 00:17:52.400 for completely different to what the actual market is, they just don't understand that 259 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:57.759 because they're they're disconnected from it. So working with those those studios makes things, 260 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:02.359 yes, very stressful. So luckily being here and speaking Japanese, I 261 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:06.039 can go to people like Tyler directly and sometimes he can push the studios on 262 00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:11.079 my behalf to help me. Helped me with the Ishi Katsuhito for films like 263 00:18:11.480 --> 00:18:15.240 Monkey Forest and all that. Like having something is being close to directors or 264 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:18.559 producers. They can give the studios a pushy for quiet and it does help 265 00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:22.079 things. So it gives me a side advantage. But then again, you 266 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:25.319 know, if there were more people interested in buying these films, then it 267 00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:29.119 would be really different. But there's less people interested in as in sales age 268 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:33.319 or distributed is buying this because the audience is obviously not fair. So it's 269 00:18:33.839 --> 00:18:37.319 it's I don't know if I wouldn't say it's pointless, but yes, it's 270 00:18:37.319 --> 00:18:42.559 a bit niche on on that note, And this is maybe gonna sound like 271 00:18:42.759 --> 00:18:48.920 an ignorant Westerner type of question to ask. But with the ultra rise in 272 00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:53.599 Hong Kong cinema getting more attention lately, with some of the Korean cinema getting 273 00:18:53.640 --> 00:18:57.079 more attention lately, with Asian cinema just getting a lot of love from a 274 00:18:57.079 --> 00:19:03.480 lot of labels, is there any like paying attention to Japanese cinema rising that 275 00:19:03.559 --> 00:19:06.680 you feel like people are seeking it out more in any sense of that? 276 00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:11.799 I think, you know, the success of a lot of the Korean popular 277 00:19:11.839 --> 00:19:15.279 titles of the last few years, or if you look at things like Squid 278 00:19:15.279 --> 00:19:19.200 Game or Parasite, they're a little more alternative or a little more genre. 279 00:19:19.720 --> 00:19:26.680 Yeah, And also you know the I think the Korean and Hong Kong producers 280 00:19:26.759 --> 00:19:30.920 and probably they used to making those sorts of films and promoting it because they 281 00:19:30.920 --> 00:19:34.079 know that that sells well. As I mentioned, Japan is very insular, 282 00:19:34.119 --> 00:19:37.960 and films like that are making it. Obviously, like Drive My Car, 283 00:19:37.000 --> 00:19:41.960 which is actually sort of a foreign film in essence because all the behind it 284 00:19:41.960 --> 00:19:47.160 are foreign is yeah, it's it's maybe if people are watching that, they're 285 00:19:47.160 --> 00:19:48.519 not going to want to watch them, like One Kind of the Dead because 286 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:53.039 it's it's it's a completely different genre, while parasite maybe it brings you into 287 00:19:53.079 --> 00:19:59.440 more sort of fantastic type titles and the type of Japanese films that have traditionally 288 00:19:59.440 --> 00:20:03.319 been popular, with the exception of Asia extreme it has been like Ozu and 289 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:07.279 Kudusawa, and those are the films that maybe people that don't watch Japanese cinema 290 00:20:07.279 --> 00:20:11.640 would want to watch. You have to obviously the Battle Royale fans, of 291 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:15.279 which there are many of them, but they don't make those films in Japan. 292 00:20:15.319 --> 00:20:17.079 To be honest, I mean, I think a lot of the films 293 00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:22.279 that were popular overseas, we're just not popular in Japan, and therefore that 294 00:20:22.319 --> 00:20:26.559 they don't make them, like She Soo, the Sushi Typhoon type films of 295 00:20:26.640 --> 00:20:30.720 like you know, Hell Driver and The Machine Girl and all that. Those 296 00:20:30.759 --> 00:20:33.759 are films aimed at a sort of international audience, but they're not popular in 297 00:20:33.839 --> 00:20:37.079 Japan, so it's a catch twenty two. It's like, you know, 298 00:20:37.640 --> 00:20:40.240 if you make a film for the international audience and it doesn't do well, 299 00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:42.759 then you're in trouble. But if you make a film for the Japanese audience, 300 00:20:42.920 --> 00:20:47.720 then you have a very much better chance of it making money. So 301 00:20:48.119 --> 00:20:52.160 they mainly focus on on that side that makes sense and making money. This 302 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:57.599 is this is probably one of the first times that I noticed Third Window films 303 00:20:57.599 --> 00:21:02.039 in more of an empathetic way last year, And I'm not sure if you 304 00:21:02.079 --> 00:21:04.880 remember you I'm sure you do because it clearly affected you. But you posted 305 00:21:04.920 --> 00:21:10.559 across social media that there was a film that you guys released that when you 306 00:21:10.680 --> 00:21:15.160 googled it, the entire first page of results was for bootlegs and tourrets. 307 00:21:17.160 --> 00:21:19.119 There are a lot of people still naive to the fact of how that can 308 00:21:19.119 --> 00:21:23.960 affect people. So considering that a lot of these the only official release is 309 00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:29.200 through Third Window Films, can you share how something like that can literally like 310 00:21:29.279 --> 00:21:33.519 destroy one of these labels. And it's also actually not just destroying the labels, 311 00:21:33.519 --> 00:21:37.799 which it obviously does, because you know, people aren't buying it there, 312 00:21:37.799 --> 00:21:41.759 they are downloading it legally. But it's the reason also why Japanese companies 313 00:21:41.799 --> 00:21:45.960 don't sell their films to the international market, because they know if a distributor 314 00:21:47.039 --> 00:21:49.559 takes it on, it's immediately going to be pirated. And Japan is very 315 00:21:49.599 --> 00:21:52.599 different to the rest of the world because piracy is not an issue in Japan. 316 00:21:53.920 --> 00:21:56.400 You know, I think Korea piracy and a lot of other parts of 317 00:21:56.400 --> 00:22:00.400 Asia, obviously China and Hong Kong, Korea piracy is a big problem for 318 00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:03.519 them, so they also understand that it's a problem for everyone else, and 319 00:22:03.559 --> 00:22:07.640 they just basically try to get things out at the same time to beat piracy 320 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:11.319 in that respect. But the Japanese because as as I mentioned before, Japanese 321 00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:15.359 is so strict on criminals. I mean to the fact that I remember hearing 322 00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:19.079 a story that a kid had downloaded one film, just one film, and 323 00:22:19.119 --> 00:22:22.559 the police when it broke down the doors and put him in jail for one 324 00:22:22.599 --> 00:22:27.720 film. And they do that in the same way that Toyota is arrested for 325 00:22:27.839 --> 00:22:33.720 like half a grandma or some whatever tiny amount of marijuana. Is to make 326 00:22:33.720 --> 00:22:37.559 sure that people don't commit crimes. I meaneen Japan is quite famous, having 327 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:41.519 a ninety nine percent conviction rate. Is they make examples a lot so that 328 00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:47.319 people don't create crimes. So therefore they think that if a film that they 329 00:22:47.559 --> 00:22:49.640 give to a distribut or now distributed to take, it's immediately gonna get pirated 330 00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:53.279 and therefore it's going to hurt them. So they just said, all right, 331 00:22:53.319 --> 00:22:56.720 we're just not going to sell our films unless it's a big enough amount 332 00:22:56.720 --> 00:23:02.799 of money that it makes it worthwhile for us. But those that a massive 333 00:23:02.799 --> 00:23:06.640 amounts of money is something that distributors like myself, because we have trouble with 334 00:23:06.680 --> 00:23:08.960 piracy, cannot afford to pay. So it's a sort of complicated situation for 335 00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:14.160 everyone. Yes, piracy is a it's yes, it kills everyone, but 336 00:23:14.240 --> 00:23:17.920 it kills smaller distributors who have lots less margins more than it kills like, 337 00:23:18.440 --> 00:23:21.640 you know, Hollywood. I guess because Holywood is still having you know, 338 00:23:21.680 --> 00:23:23.799 tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people watching their films and cinemas. 339 00:23:23.799 --> 00:23:27.440 And if I'm only selling like five hundred Blu rays, then you know, 340 00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:33.960 if I lose a couple hundred of that, then that's fails yes, it's 341 00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:41.400 that's depressing. When you posted that last year, I have a weekly live 342 00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:45.720 show, and that was a good ten or fifteen minutes of discussion on how 343 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:48.920 supporting some of these smaller labels not only leads to success for that label, 344 00:23:49.240 --> 00:23:53.559 but literally to the hobby as a whole. It encourages others to participate, 345 00:23:53.599 --> 00:24:00.240 to watch, to ensure that we're archiving film and art in general. And 346 00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:04.279 I, I don't know, I feel like there are still millions of people 347 00:24:04.359 --> 00:24:08.039 that don't think it's a problem anymore. And the fact that in twenty twenty 348 00:24:08.079 --> 00:24:11.960 one you had to come out and post and say, look, I just 349 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:14.880 put out this film and this is the only thing that you can find on 350 00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:18.880 the internet right now. It is it's so debilitating. Well, it's why 351 00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:21.920 it's I think a lot of people also misread what I was saying. There 352 00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:23.039 were a lot of people saying, well, we Google searched it and it 353 00:24:23.079 --> 00:24:26.200 wasn't the pirate sites. But what I was I should have probably build them 354 00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:30.519 more clear, is that when I release a film, I usually search for 355 00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:34.200 the last week or two of hits on Google, because that's the things would 356 00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:38.759 be related to the release. And they were, yes, all pirate sites. 357 00:24:40.359 --> 00:24:42.160 But yes, as you mentioned, I think people don't really even my 358 00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:47.359 mother, my mother who knows her son runs a film company. It's like, 359 00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:48.519 oh, I'll just download that later. And it's like don't just don't, 360 00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:52.440 don't tell me that, you know, like me in me, like 361 00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:56.680 you know, it doesn't occur to whether that's a problem, and I think 362 00:24:56.720 --> 00:25:00.640 many people in the world just don't think of it. There's a problem. 363 00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:03.960 And but then again, you know, you in this world nowadays where like 364 00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:07.119 you know, you've paid five dollars a month and you get like access to 365 00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:11.319 like thousands of films. You know, the film itself has become less valuable. 366 00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:17.640 Living in Japan really makes you see the world from a different standpoint because 367 00:25:17.680 --> 00:25:21.519 it's a world where video on demand is not popular here yet, where people 368 00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:23.799 go to the cinema, and the cinema prices don't have math and a prices 369 00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:26.759 in fact, they've gone up over the last couple of years. So it's 370 00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:30.519 all there's no dollar cinemas or things like that as they do in the States, 371 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:33.279 and it's like you pay to see the movie, you sit through the 372 00:25:33.279 --> 00:25:36.319 move to the very end of the credits. To give respect to the people 373 00:25:36.400 --> 00:25:38.759 that have made that movie and you know, if you like it, you 374 00:25:38.759 --> 00:25:42.240 can go and rent it from from a video store and watch it again. 375 00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:48.039 But you know, it's it's it's about yes, paying and supporting, because 376 00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:52.319 if if something gets cheaper and cheaper, the price can't go back up afterwards, 377 00:25:52.680 --> 00:25:56.920 and therefore something becomes less and less valuable the more the cheaper it is 378 00:25:56.480 --> 00:26:02.680 marketed as. And we unfortunately in this well luckily for movie watchers who can 379 00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:06.559 watch anything for pay five dollars a month and have watched like thousands of films. 380 00:26:06.599 --> 00:26:10.079 But yes, it makes it a lot harder to continue making films. 381 00:26:10.119 --> 00:26:14.200 And I think if you, I can't expect everyone to go and spend like 382 00:26:14.240 --> 00:26:18.359 fifteen pounds on a DVD or blue ray or you know, it's just blind 383 00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:22.160 by something just to support. But you know, I think in general, 384 00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:26.519 you know, if people can understand that the amount of work, effort, 385 00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:29.519 time that goes into getting out these things, you don't have to buy this 386 00:26:29.559 --> 00:26:33.240 one, but at least in general, try to support things. I mean, 387 00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:34.960 you wouldn't go to a shop and go that Coca cola looks nice, 388 00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:37.559 I'm just gonna steal it, would you? But you at the same time 389 00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:40.160 you're like, oh, I want to watch this movie, I'm just gonna 390 00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:42.599 download it, and you know it's the same thing. I mean, you're 391 00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:47.640 you're in essence stealing for something that people have made, and you know it's 392 00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:51.039 a lot It hurts a lot more when that coca cola is like Adam's Coca 393 00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:56.000 cola. And you know that's a good point. Well, speaking of getting 394 00:26:56.000 --> 00:27:00.960 people to support, you've already announced some time itols coming out the rest of 395 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:03.880 the year, and they seem to be some that people are really after. 396 00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:07.799 So do you mind sharing an info on a suicide club? So as I 397 00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:15.720 had some problems, it was supposed to have been released and I was obviously 398 00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:19.920 the Shion Sono situation has come up, and all the people that were connected 399 00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:26.119 to helping put out the release as in making new audio commentaries. Unfortunately film 400 00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:30.680 never had any good any bonus features from the original Japanese release, and you 401 00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:34.839 can't just release a bare bones disc nowadays. You need to obviously have make 402 00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:40.759 it a collectibles item, and I have somebody making very nice artwork for it 403 00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:44.799 from illustrated artwork, and I had lots of bonus features all set up, 404 00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:48.200 and everybody just pulled out of it after the accusations, and I tried to 405 00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:52.599 renegotiate with the sales agent to an ami and also the video on demand called 406 00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:56.000 company that was supposed to buy it dropped out as well. So I tried 407 00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:59.559 to renegotiate to bring the price down to make it worthwhile, and they wouldn't 408 00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:02.480 let me, so I had to. It's just sort of on hold, 409 00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:06.880 like I haven't paid for it because I can't afford the amount there there without 410 00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:10.920 having a pre sell it to some some fo D companies. So yeah, 411 00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:12.519 it's a bit on the back burner. I mean, I think people have 412 00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:18.000 forgotten about this, the Sono thing, because like at the time, everybody 413 00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:22.200 was saying, we're not going to support a film a film and now loads 414 00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:25.559 of your MAILI mean said Whinston next wins to release a suicide Club. So 415 00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:30.839 I don't know, it's I if everyone you know, to be honest, 416 00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:33.240 I know, And so no personally, and I don't think the acquisitions or 417 00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:37.759 he's been pictured in the light that is is is really just to what who 418 00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:45.000 is as a person. I think he's been a little scapegoated in a very 419 00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:51.039 heated situation, but I can't really say that he's an angel either, so 420 00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:55.759 it's very complicated. And yeah, that releases, I don't know what to 421 00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:59.759 say. I mean, it's it's I get that. What about the OBI 422 00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:03.599 stuff that's supposed to be coming. Yeah, that that's a big release a 423 00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:07.359 book sets as the previous or by actually box set, but with films that 424 00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:11.480 are a lot more accessible. They're not all three hours long, and that 425 00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:17.920 has obviously helped a lot in making bonus features and checking the subtitles and doing 426 00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:23.440 everything else. Because yeah, so I'm making just finaling up, finalizing up 427 00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:27.880 some audio commentaries right now, and I've got the artwork just finished by the 428 00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:32.559 same person who did the last artwork, and yeah, hopefully i'll have some 429 00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:37.000 news within the next by the end of Bogust or something of release date, 430 00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:40.599 but yeah, it'd be those Those are four fantastic films. They are quite 431 00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:44.160 different in their own way, and they're never being released outside of Japan before, 432 00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:48.079 so I think it should be or I hope it will is a popular 433 00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:52.039 set. I've I've already had multiple people asked me about that since we posted 434 00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:56.279 about that earlier this year when you announced that that was coming, So I 435 00:29:56.680 --> 00:29:59.519 know that there are people already looking out for it. Yes, and they're 436 00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:02.400 all gonna say, why is a lot to be And you know, I 437 00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:07.000 don't think Also people realize that it's not it's not We're not the bad guys. 438 00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:10.359 You know, it's not our fault. And speaking also as a producer 439 00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:14.039 from the other side, as in it from the perspective of the people that 440 00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:18.039 are selling the film to distributors. If you allow somebody to make it all 441 00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:22.000 region unless they're paying a huge amount of money for it, it's very complicated. 442 00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:26.799 It means that you can only sell it to in essence, one distributor, 443 00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:30.160 and if you're a producer of something and making a film, you need 444 00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:34.440 as many distributors to buy the film so that you can make as much money 445 00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:37.039 as you can to recoup any sort of costs. I mean, obviously these 446 00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:41.680 are all films, so there's no costs in that sense. But you know, 447 00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:45.440 it's not easy to just like make it region free and make it available 448 00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:51.039 to everyone's So it's not our fault. And of course I love to make 449 00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:53.759 it region free because then they can increase my sales, but I have contract 450 00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:56.319 that says I can't, and if I do, I'm in breach of a 451 00:30:56.359 --> 00:31:00.920 contract. And you know, it's a lot harder for distributors to make a 452 00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:04.359 film region free than like a user just buying a region free player. And 453 00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:08.759 I always say that you don't need to buy a player sold as region free. 454 00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:14.000 There are many players that you can buy on Amazon in Black Friday for 455 00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:18.880 like thirty dollars that can be made region free very simply with just a remote 456 00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:21.440 control hack. And every time I get a mail, I copy and paste 457 00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:25.880 the same reply to each one, just to go to this website and then 458 00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:29.240 get a region three player. That a player that can be made region free. 459 00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:33.759 I also suggest for people just go to like an Amazon dot code at 460 00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:37.440 UK and get a region B player so you can always have one connected and 461 00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:41.119 now you get the best of both worlds. That's more complicated because that requires 462 00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:45.960 a voltage adapt right, and I think people would just just I'll tell you 463 00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:48.599 like when I lived I lived in the stage for a while and I got 464 00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:52.039 some Toshiba forty dollars player, And before I bought that, I went on 465 00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:56.400 DVD hacks dot com and I found the player that that you could press two 466 00:31:56.440 --> 00:32:00.559 buttons in the remote control into region three. I mean, it's a it's 467 00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:02.400 not not too complicated. It's not like at the Mond Chip something like you 468 00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:07.200 used them. I still have people ask things like is Third Window Films? 469 00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:12.039 Is there stuff region free? And I think that there are still too many 470 00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:16.079 people that think the labels get to decide if things are regional arked. Can 471 00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:20.119 you share some of the process behind that, since you've worked on both sides 472 00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:22.559 well, as I just mentioned, you know, I think you know. 473 00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:28.599 We have contracts with these the sales agents, and the contracts stipulate we can 474 00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:32.880 sell within our territory, which is a territory that has been described as a 475 00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:37.240 lot to a certain region. So for example, Region A is America and 476 00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:43.480 it's English, and Region B is Europe. And then obviously there's the language 477 00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:45.680 that can be used on the disc as well, right, and if I 478 00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:50.960 want to have because I'm an English language, have English subtitles. If I 479 00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:53.799 were to make mine Region A and then end up therefore being available in the 480 00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:58.799 States, and therefore they can't sell that film to the States, and were 481 00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:00.400 I to pay a large amount of money, I could, I could buy 482 00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:05.039 both regions, but I can't. Sometimes with very small films, you can 483 00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:08.240 negotiate, and I do have some films that are region free, because I've 484 00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:12.079 said, if I'm the only person that's going to release this film in the 485 00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:16.200 world, then look, let me just take all regions and then I'll it'll 486 00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:21.039 increase the sales and therefore I can give you a better royalty based on sales. 487 00:33:21.039 --> 00:33:23.279 But if it's a popular title, then I think it's a it's it's 488 00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:27.440 impossible. I mean, I know nowadays you know with with four K and 489 00:33:27.480 --> 00:33:31.400 all that or UHD, they're they're made as region region free or something, 490 00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:36.279 but the costs. You know, you can't put a four K out of 491 00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:39.119 a Japanese like small independent film. It's pointless. You can't put a four 492 00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:43.599 K of ruined hard out there. It's only shot in two K. So 493 00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:45.359 yes, I think also people will forget, like you know, you when 494 00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:49.160 I went in with Japanese sms, that it's like shot on sixteen millimeters, 495 00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:52.519 like you can't put that in four K because it's you can't blow up sixteen 496 00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:55.759 millimeters four K or like you're talking about like films that have budgets of like 497 00:33:55.759 --> 00:33:59.519 like I don't know, fifty thousand or one hundred thousand dollars and it's like 498 00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:02.920 it's gonna worse than four K because in the budgetary constraints and the lack of 499 00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:07.839 a proper lighting used in filming is going to look aw for like people, 500 00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:10.679 Yeah, get so caught up in these things that are set by Massive. 501 00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:14.199 Of course you want to watch Avatar in four K, but it doesn't mean 502 00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:16.639 that you can put like Ruined Heart in four K, right, And had 503 00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:21.440 to mention that even if you really wanted to try, the restoration price on 504 00:34:21.519 --> 00:34:24.480 that would almost be probably the budget of the entire film. Yes, and 505 00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:30.519 also you know Japanese aren't very willing to restore in four K, and they 506 00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:34.760 don't like their prince to leave Japan either in order for a foreign company to 507 00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:37.239 do that as well. So but in the end, you know, if 508 00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:38.880 it's Battle Royale, then then you can put in four K because you know 509 00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:44.000 people are gonna buy it, But you can't put all the costs into some 510 00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:46.960 small Japanese films that they're belly setting a thousand copies. I mean, if 511 00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:50.400 I'd done Crazy It's down the Road in four K or something, I've been 512 00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:54.480 in big trouble right now. On the monetary note, if you could share 513 00:34:54.960 --> 00:35:00.199 I've heard some behind the scenes rumors that the price essentially to license a Japanese 514 00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:06.079 film in Regent B is exponentially less than to license it to Region A. 515 00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:09.159 For so for them, I mean because Region A is America, and America 516 00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:14.880 is is you know how many five six times the population of the UK, 517 00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:19.000 and when you have more people then you have a bigger audience to sell to, 518 00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:22.440 and therefore the price is you know, represents that, but it still 519 00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:27.760 doesn't actually represent It's not like an American origion A is like five times six 520 00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:30.639 times more. Actually it's only a little bit more or maybe double the price 521 00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:37.000 for UK, which makes it even harder as a UK distributor because because we're 522 00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:42.079 English, because we're English, were because we released films in English. The 523 00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:46.599 sales agents also know that it opens up the market to Europe because a lot 524 00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:51.480 of people in France or Germany can speak English with buy discs from England, 525 00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:54.280 where if it's a French release with French only subtules, you're basically limited to 526 00:35:54.320 --> 00:36:00.119 maybe to France only. So the costs of very high for such a small 527 00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:07.320 population just because of the language. So it's it's it's very it's a lot 528 00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:12.039 harder to release a film as an Elist distributor than an American distributor, I 529 00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:15.960 believe, because it just doesn't really work out assended, right, that makes 530 00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:22.400 sense. That was the monetary side of thing. So to get into the 531 00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:25.559 person behind third window, who who is Adam? How'd you get where you 532 00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:29.599 are? You mentioned living in the States, living in the UK, living 533 00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:34.039 in Japan. You've had You've had a busy life. Yeah. I moved 534 00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:37.400 to the States when I was ten. My mother won a green card. 535 00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:39.199 They used to have a lottery they could give you American green cards, and 536 00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:44.239 we won it and moved to the States. And I moved. We moved 537 00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:49.800 to Florida, of all places, not the most cultural, right, so, 538 00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:53.079 but I ended up working. There was a video store in Florida called 539 00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:58.760 Video Renaissance, which is if it wasn't in Florida, it would be world 540 00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:02.199 famous. So they had about fifty thousand films. Fifty thousand can you imagine 541 00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:09.039 of the owner had been buying every single film in every format since the eighties 542 00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:13.400 and just never thrown away anything, so any out of print, you know, 543 00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:16.280 things like films like Fear, Anxiety and Depression that Todd Heading's like debut 544 00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:21.880 film, like all that stuff on VHS that it was basically an archive that 545 00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:27.000 was stuck in this like very small town called Sarasota in Florida, and you 546 00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:30.519 know it was a pity that you know, it was in a place like 547 00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:31.599 that, because if it was in New York, I mean, people would 548 00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:36.559 come from all over. And I worked there for years and that's where I 549 00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:40.559 sort of understood the concept of distribution because you know, just watching and buying 550 00:37:40.599 --> 00:37:45.360 every film we could as a shop, but then again not being able to 551 00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:51.000 see so many films because they won't distributed, you know, so that really 552 00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:55.760 got me into distribution and also being able to about Asian cinema. You know, 553 00:37:55.840 --> 00:37:59.119 at the time, it was like we would I would trade with Video 554 00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:04.079 Search of Miami, who was a VHS. Like they were saying these big 555 00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:07.280 handwritten catalogs, and you would you will know what anything is because the catalog 556 00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:10.440 with words, and you just say, well that sounds good, and you 557 00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:14.960 would post them a letter back and they would send you like Center Feed horror 558 00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:19.599 because and then you watched like fifth generation VHS and you know, they got 559 00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:23.159 me so much into the obscure Asian cinema. And I moved back to England 560 00:38:23.199 --> 00:38:28.679 when I was twenty and at the time Tartan Films was was quite popular with 561 00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:31.760 its aswo extreme brand, and I interned therefore for a year or so, 562 00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:37.199 and I realized that, you know, from the outside, companies like that 563 00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:40.039 seem fantastic, but when you work in companies, you know, you realize 564 00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:43.880 that, you know, you think that everyone there is going to be big 565 00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:46.119 fans of cinema and Asian cinema and like know everything, but then it's not 566 00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:50.920 really the case. And I think it's a disillusioning And I stopped then and 567 00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:57.840 and started in the films. That is a heck of a journey. And 568 00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:01.920 I think that there are a lot of people that have obviously not the same 569 00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:06.679 ending necessarily, but a lot of the people that are in this hobby their 570 00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:10.719 passion started with memories like walking through a video rental store or uh, you 571 00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:15.440 know, their parents' collection of laser discs or something like that. And it 572 00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:22.360 is to me it feels like we are in essentially the true modern golden age 573 00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:27.599 of physical media. Would you agree with that, Hm, I don't know. 574 00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:31.400 I think that there has been in this generation at least. Yeah. 575 00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:35.599 I mean, we're lucky because it has become cool, but not like, 576 00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:39.559 for example, records became you know popular again over the last few years, 577 00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:46.519 and and that you know, after so many years of of of digital really 578 00:39:46.960 --> 00:39:51.360 becoming the main the main stream, you know, it became popular again to 579 00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:55.559 to buy records or collect books or buy books, you know, or blue 580 00:39:55.639 --> 00:40:00.480 rays or DVDs. But if you really I wonder if it really is the 581 00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:02.400 Golden Age, because if you think of it, if it was so popular, 582 00:40:02.440 --> 00:40:06.639 then there'd be loads of record shops, video shops, rental shops and 583 00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:10.880 things on the high street and or retailers online. But there isn't really that 584 00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:15.360 many. And you know, I when I when I look back at you 585 00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:19.519 know, when I first started off, or even during the first few years. 586 00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:23.400 I was speaking yesterday to my friend Joey at Terra Cotta Distribution. He 587 00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:27.920 would release a film and like sell like three thousand copies in the first week. 588 00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:30.920 And I would have titles that would sell like even chiny Japanese films that 589 00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:35.760 would sell thousands and thousands of copies. And nowadays I can have a major 590 00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:39.800 Japanese from barely selling a thousand copies. So I wonder if it's I mean, 591 00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:45.159 of course, it's become a little cooler now, and the collector's market 592 00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:52.039 has become maybe stronger, but it's it's really only a few companies that are 593 00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:55.199 doing it, and there aren't really that many films getting out there compared to 594 00:40:55.199 --> 00:41:00.119 what they used to be. But the Blu rays is actually expensive, you 595 00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:02.800 know, DVD was. I think DVD was really the best market because and 596 00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:07.039 it was cheap to make it, and there was just so many films getting 597 00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:09.599 out there. So it's changed, but I don't know. I think DVD 598 00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:15.639 at its tide was was much much better for film lovers because you know, 599 00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:20.199 not format lovers. I think that's different nowadays is everybody's buying them. But 600 00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:22.119 I wonder how many people are actually watching the films and how many watching the 601 00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:27.400 bonus peaches on this guy. I think they like to say that they've got 602 00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:30.639 these films and they've got these bonus speeches. But I feel that DVD was 603 00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:35.440 a time where peopleould actual watch the films a lot more. That is a 604 00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:39.880 probably very true statement, which is why I tried to really cultivate the the 605 00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:45.119 sort of community of people to actually discuss what they think of these films and 606 00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:50.719 how it affected them. And I don't know when I mentioned the Golden Age. 607 00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:54.639 I'm really thinking in more of a post streaming world, and it seems 608 00:41:54.679 --> 00:41:59.119 like this is I'm not gonna say it's gonna be on its way down, 609 00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:02.159 but it seems like through COVID everything got really strong for a good year and 610 00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:06.480 a half or so, and now that that heat seems to be coming off 611 00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:08.920 a little bit again. And yeah, I think I think that thanks to 612 00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:14.559 companies like Arrow Films who really have cultivated a strong audience. And and yes, 613 00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:17.199 I think there was a lot of feeling from people too, And it 614 00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:21.400 has been a lot of feeling over the past few years of supporting of the 615 00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:25.159 independent films doing better than them Hollywood films, and that sort of want to 616 00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:31.960 support you know, your your local DIY records store and your your local coffee 617 00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:37.320 shop. And I think the whole independence has become popular. I mean, 618 00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:42.559 if you walk down any main street of a of a major city nowadays, 619 00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:47.639 it's all like shops made to look like like they've been run by a family, 620 00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:52.360 you know, which is sort of brings it back to, yes, 621 00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:55.639 the concept of sort of independent film distribution. It's that the IY record label 622 00:42:55.719 --> 00:43:00.239 type of feeling to it. But yeah, I think, yeah, yeah, 623 00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:02.599 I don't know. I think it's maybe works more as a theory than 624 00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:08.719 I really wonder sometimes you know how well, but yeah, I know, 625 00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:13.119 I think an hour Hourrow and some of companies like that, And there have 626 00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:15.440 been lots of new distributors. Surprisingly, I wouldn't have thought it'd be so 627 00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:21.000 many new distributors popping up, Like there's Era four for four four on comedian 628 00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:27.800 films in Australia and Radiance popping up now. But I'm always surprised that, 629 00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:30.039 like some of these companies released like one to two films and people on the 630 00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:32.719 inten and saying like this is my new favorite label, and like, you 631 00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:38.440 know, some companies have been working for many more years and it's releasing two 632 00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:42.960 films. Maybe it's consistent, you get one hundred percent with two good films, 633 00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:46.360 but try that over fifteen years. Well, that is a really good 634 00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:51.519 time to ask some of these older titles that you put out, maybe you 635 00:43:51.519 --> 00:43:53.760 know, five or six years ago, that have not sold their first thousand 636 00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:58.480 yet. Are there any that you think deserve a second look that people should 637 00:43:58.760 --> 00:44:00.880 really be looking into if they get a you know, the idea to try 638 00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:05.960 to support third window. Right now, you probably I'd probably have to look 639 00:44:06.039 --> 00:44:09.480 at what you know, I just get. I mean, there are actually 640 00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:15.639 surprisingly films that that surprisingly haven't done this or haven't broken even yet, Like 641 00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:20.760 the re release of Fish Story on Blu Ray. I really expected that to 642 00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:23.159 do a lot better, being the only Blue Relay releases of the film in 643 00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:28.679 the world and region three and having lots of extras. The DVD sold really 644 00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:30.559 well during this time, and the Blu ray has not even broken even yet. 645 00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:36.360 So I do think that's a sort of film that's easy to recommend whether 646 00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:39.599 you're into any sort of cinema. I think it can be one that that 647 00:44:39.760 --> 00:44:45.280 everybody everybody likes. And my recent most recent release of Summertime Machine Blues, 648 00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:47.760 I also think that's the type of film that you don't really have to be 649 00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:52.639 hardcore into Asian cinema or even cinema in general. And it's a film that 650 00:44:53.239 --> 00:44:59.360 would make you enjoy it and feel good and and and it's it's a very 651 00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:01.639 good film with and a great release full of extras, and the only release 652 00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:05.599 of the film outside of Japan. So I think, you know, there 653 00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:09.199 are lots of films, yes, but but you know, whether they be 654 00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:14.400 my label, somebody else's you know, yes, I please everyone, just 655 00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:20.760 I think, yeah, watching films is good, and like I said, 656 00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:24.440 not only for supporting these groups, but it is literally archiving art. And 657 00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:28.840 some of the ways that we can do this is literally just to keep it 658 00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:31.519 in our minds, be able to make it a part of our modern history 659 00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:35.480 as well, and not just something that happened forty years ago and was a 660 00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:38.639 blip in a history book. Basically, yeah, it's really important, and 661 00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:44.000 you do learn this, I mean being a doing this for a while. 662 00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:49.960 For example, there was a director call Ucita Kenji who releases films like Key 663 00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:54.119 of Life, A Stranger of Mine, and he made a few very good 664 00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:58.360 Japanese films about ten years ago, but none of those films were ever really 665 00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:02.960 released, and he stopped making films years and he's sort of unknown is because 666 00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:07.599 the film's never made it out there into people's hands. He's essentially sort of 667 00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:10.519 I don't know, I don't I don't know, say died, but like 668 00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:15.960 in a sort of cultural sense, he doesn't exist. And for somebody who 669 00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:19.880 made all these great films back then, if it's it's important that they exist 670 00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:22.840 and not just like a you know, of course, it's easier to to 671 00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:27.159 to rent a film and and maybe people don't have so much room in the 672 00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:29.920 houses and all that. Of course that you know, we can't all have 673 00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:32.880 big houses. Even I live in Tokyo and I don't have so much anymore. 674 00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:38.920 But you know, I think the concept of of having and supporting physical 675 00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:45.400 anything that keep out alive and keep because if your computer breaks or if your 676 00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:50.559 computer breaks, you know, I think last year there was some big situation 677 00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:52.440 with Intel or something like that, and I remember that, like the data 678 00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:55.159 was wiped out for a long time. And if that happens and all these 679 00:46:55.159 --> 00:46:58.880 films are lost, and what are you going to do? So you know, 680 00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:01.400 in one way or another, you can keep something or another to pass 681 00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:06.800 on to your children or pass on to to an on the next generation. 682 00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:13.159 It's it's important. That was very well said. That is why, you 683 00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:15.639 know, the restoration work being done on some of these older films is something 684 00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:21.239 that needs to be supported. The fact that we are putting time and energy 685 00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:25.360 into, you know, for your company, primarily documenting the hands that were 686 00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:30.239 actually on this film. I mean you're going to these people's homes and hearing 687 00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:35.199 from their mouth their experience, their their time spent on them, and you 688 00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:38.559 guys have some great extras on everything that you've done. So again, just 689 00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:43.559 thank you, thank you, thank you, and yes, that's together. 690 00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:47.280 Try to keep find one one person a day, or you know, one 691 00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:50.639 person every two days or three days. You know. I think it's you 692 00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:54.440 know, I think it keeps everyone happy and keeps everything alive, just you 693 00:47:54.480 --> 00:48:00.599 know, or talking and meeting. It's not easy to meet nowadays with COVID, 694 00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:02.920 but even if it's just meeting on the internet like we are now, 695 00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:08.599 it's important. I completely agree. I'll give you back your day then, 696 00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:12.239 Adam, thank you so much for spending the time to come on here and 697 00:48:12.239 --> 00:48:15.039 discuss. I really hope people seek out Third Window Films. And the last 698 00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:19.199 thing I wanted to mention is you mentioned that Terra Cotta distribution. They are 699 00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:22.800 like one of your main arms of your sore Front now basically correct. Yes, 700 00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:27.719 Joey, the owner of Terra Cotta is a friend of mine for twenty 701 00:48:27.800 --> 00:48:30.159 years. Actually, I did a podcast yesterday. We do have the Third 702 00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:34.440 Window Film's podcast, and we had him on as a guest and there's a 703 00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:39.880 lot of reminiscing upon things that we've forgotten about twenty years prior to he used 704 00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:44.519 to also run his own distribution company, which he does less and less nowadays, 705 00:48:44.519 --> 00:48:49.320 but he acts as a retailer and thanks to him during COVID, when 706 00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:53.039 all the other people like Arrow doubled their commissions and really made it to a 707 00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:57.440 point where I didn't think I could continue anymore. To be honest, he 708 00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:04.519 is using his house to to ship out my Blu rays and taking a percentage 709 00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:07.559 that is there's nowhere near what Amazon an Hour and all the other big companies 710 00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:13.360 are asking. So I really anybody who wants to buy any of my discs, 711 00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:15.039 I always send them to Terra Cotta, and I always price point them. 712 00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:21.039 They're lower than everywhere else because he takes a smaller percentage, So it's 713 00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:23.360 it should be a win win, but if you can it's it's really him 714 00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:29.840 just putting stuff into into packages and posting them out himself. So it's a 715 00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:34.719 proper independent all around. And there are frequently sales throughout the year. I 716 00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:37.800 mean just a few months ago you did the Takeshi Kitano. I think it 717 00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:42.440 was four Blu rays for twenty pounds sale that was yehock low. Yeah. 718 00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:45.960 The thing is the rights had expired and I couldn't renew them, so I 719 00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:49.119 had all this stock left over. And if ever I do have stock left 720 00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:52.880 over or find stuff. Sometimes I find stuff in a warehouse, like or 721 00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:55.719 something that's been out of print for like years. It goes straight to him 722 00:49:57.079 --> 00:50:00.719 and he sells it on his shop. So he always has the yes, 723 00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:06.280 the best way to find anything that might be harder to find elsewhere. Terra 724 00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:08.199 Cotta is great. I've talked to Joey a couple of times. He's a 725 00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:12.920 brilliant, brilliant dude. Again, thanks for your time, Adam. Everybody 726 00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:16.239 please check out Third Window films. They've got at least the Obashi said coming 727 00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:19.679 out the rest of the year. Is there anything else that you can tease 728 00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:23.480 or any other ideas coming up. I've been working on some katsu Ishi films 729 00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:29.400 like sharkskin Man and Peachip Girl and Party Seven, which are quite the sort 730 00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:34.239 of films that Tarantino really really loved and interested fired him to make a kill 731 00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:37.480 Bill and in which he hired the director of those films to work on Kill 732 00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:42.639 Bill with him. So I think they they've been it's been twenty five years 733 00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:46.079 since some sharkskin Man. It's working on a remaster now, so hopefully it'll 734 00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:50.079 probably be next year. But there there are some things like that that I've 735 00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:54.360 got on the back burner and yeah, hopefully things things will move forwards with 736 00:50:55.239 --> 00:50:59.360 awesome Thank you again Adam, have a good day. Hope Tokyo treat you 737 00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:27.280 will thank you do me no