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Good morning, rockers, or afternoon
wherever, whatever time you were choosing to

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enjoy this podcast. This is that's
not mettal and today it is I would

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say, the last big one.
It's the last sort of segmented as usual

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big one because today we are,
of course your weekly rocky metal podcast.

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We talk about everything that you want
to know over here, and today is

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the day where we do the reviews, and that means that we have eight

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records that we are auditioning out to
you that we recommend. I would say,

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you know, at least you go
and listen to genuine Yeah sure,

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you know you probably recommend all of
these yeah Got albums we're gonna talk about.

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It's gonna be fucking good if you
are looking for your like last batch

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of albums that you are really looking
out for this year of like you know,

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oh, maybe I have to do
my end of year list soon.

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Is there anything I've missed? Hopefully
some of the really cool stuff we have

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today might fill in some of those
gaps for you. I really really think

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it will. My name is Parenhish
with me today as ever, for these

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episodes, We've got Sam Dignon,
We've got Elliott Paisley, how are we

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being up to anything cool this week
with some exciting news. Yeah. I

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was at a couple of shows the
last couple of days. I went to

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see The Sisters of Mercy, which, if you are part of the T

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and M discord, have been a
long sort of source of like, oh,

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will it be good or not?
Because they have a very very patchy

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live reputation. There are people in
there who've seen them all times. They

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were like, yeah, I've seen
them be good. I've seen it be

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just absolutely like we've had to walk
away in disgrace. I always seem to

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luck out on these things. I
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I seem to have done it again
here. It was pretty fun,

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Like not the most amazing show I've
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a mumberly man, and it always
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when I'm seeing Godflesh to kind of
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yeah, that's what a drum machine
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like full life band power. But
like I could see them, like the

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fog machine wasn't cranked up enough to
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light show was actually pretty cool.
Andrew did what he had two For the

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songs, they're like nine unreleased songs. They all have accumulated over the last

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fucking thirty ars or whatever. They
mostly sounded pretty good and like you know

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when the last four songs are like
Templar Love to end the encore, and

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then just the three big hits from
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this corrosion like. It was an
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last night I went to go see
this like Italian disco synthpop act called a

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Nuovo Testamento, who were brilliant.
They were like forty people there and it

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was just like, uh, they've
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by Scowl and they're playing a show
with them in like la I think.

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And if you want to hear that
great song from that eat Scowep done in

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like full on goth disco form,
I cannot recommend that track enough. It's

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fucking great. That was all very
fun. Indeed, reviews that we have

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this time come from the Gaslight Anthem, Green Lung Dying, Wish, No

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Bro Autopsy, Wayfairer under dark and
Malacarpatan. I like that the further I

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went down that the less recognizable as
words they became. But before that,

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we do have some news. And
when you say excited news, Elliott,

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I am sure that you are referring
to definitely not some of the views that

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that we have a little bit later, and you were probably referring to the

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fact that an Instagram post went up
a couple of days ago from the Nails

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accounts with a picture of a very
happy looking Todd Jones standing next to mister

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Kirkbaloo. Todd seems to have model
his haircut on Kirk Blue, so it's

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like two, you know, mullety, smiley looking lads. With the news

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that Nails have presumably just recorded a
new album that's going to be out in

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the summer of twenty twenty four through
Nuclear Blast Records. Nails are one of

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the I think a lot of us
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as one of the most exciting things
to happen during our sort of times of

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being into particularly obviously extreme heavy music. Nails when they were around were a

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perfect band. They fell apart in
an imperfect way but the way their music

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was and just how they came at
you as a band was pretty perfect.

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Like I was like they were on
the best bands who just sucked at being

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a band. Yeah, Like they
really were the Free Records. I mean,

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they're like one of the bands that
got me into Like I kind of

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always didn't hate brind but I was
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that kind of like looks for distance
and then definite a band All Life,

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particularly band All Life, was like
fuck me, like this is this is

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I like the fact that we've got
this is the first thing in news.

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You know, there are lots of
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violency bands whatever who come and go, but like Nails that appealed beyond that,

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you know, Like Nails was like
it was almost like one of those

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death Heaven type moments of like fucking
people. Yeah yeah, like when you

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would ever be one of us dropped
and like that, again, that went

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well beyond even just our kind of
like stinky corner of the world, wasn't

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it. Yeah, Like, if
you were listened to this podcast in twenty

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sixteen and maybe you think normally isn't
extreme stuff, I'm sure that a lot

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of you will have heard those Nails
records, and many of you will have

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fucking loved them. Who knows who
was in Nails, because last thing we

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heard of them was several years ago. Everyone apart from main man Todd had

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departed and they'd only had, you
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line up the whole time they were
around in the twenty tens, and I

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guess we sort of assumed that that
was the end because then they went quiet.

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But first alp in eight years,
Nails are going to be back next

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year. How excited are it?
This is the best album. It's not

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even a full Albu and Nelson,
but the best album announcement in I don't

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even know, because there's been news
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were back, like since twenty twenty
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was like, yeah, no,
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longer it went on, it just
seemed less and less likely. And I

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mean, like you say, that
run of albums from Unsilent Death to You'll

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Know You will ever be one of
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a certain age or of a certain
whatever getting into music at that time,

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they were kind of the benchmark for
heaviness. They were like the go to,

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but the way the people in the
eighties was like napalm, death or

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venom or rain. When Rain and
Blood came out, it was like,

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oh my god, when you and
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life hit was like, well,
that's the hardest you can make this particular

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kind of thing. Challenge anyone else
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years later, over a decade,
for some of those things, it's not

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really been matched. I don't think
like you' put on a band in all

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life and it's just fucking sickening.
And for me, it's one of the

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best runs by any band in the
twenty first century. And even like that

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single they did in twenty nineteen,
which no one even really talks about anymore,

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is amazing. I don't want to
know you. And then the sol

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MAT's Cavalira, fucking everything they ever
put out was just gold standard. Everything

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they seemed to do. They were
terrible in terms of outside of that,

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but yeah, my gods, yeah, I you know, like, you

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know, I would be pretty surprised
if they came back and the lineup was

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the same like if the pre the
two guys had rejoined. I know that

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Taylor Young is generally pretty you know, busy these days between still being and

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several other bands, twitching tongues and
having his you know, recording and so

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on. I don't necessarily know if
those guys would want to go back to

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being in Nails, But and I
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know, the question, would it
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particularly different drama, Yeah, with
the guys whatever, But I mean,

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fucking Kurt Baluze recorded that, you
know, I doubt hurt He's going

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to look out and go, Yeah, that's not quite as good as you

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know, up to scratch where we
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very exciting. It is like I
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way all end and I was like, gad about Nails and then I put

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on you will never be one of
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fucking hell. Like I said,
Todd looked happy in the picture, which

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is kind of rarity, and it's
like seems good vibe. Yeah, So

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I'm like I'm going into this one
giving him a answer like right, you

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can right some wrongs here now looking
forward, to the Nails album, you

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are now allowed to come be one
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say something like love you all,
and I was like, yeah, they've

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got a presh guy, like he's
gone out into the desert and meditated for

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a while and now he's back and
the albums that you can come sit with

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us. If the albums are still
hardest pissed, I would be fine with

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that kind of attitude. Yeah,
very very exciting immediately, of course,

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one of the most anticipated records for
next year, even though it will be

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maximum twenty minutes long. But what
twenty minutes we hope those will be?

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Or the return of Nails. I
guess you know, one enters and one

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goes also swap. You know,
some people will have more attachment to me.

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I have one of those people who
had an attachment to this band at

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one point in their life. But
just yeah, I don't even I don't

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want to turn this into a bit
of a punching bag thing because the guys

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in question you kind of feel for
they did nothing wrong. Yeah. Issues

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put out a statement this week that
they were going to be going on a

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little run of three shows. I
presume they're all in America. Yeah,

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three shows in America which aren't to
function as their farewell shows. And I,

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again, I never liked this band, so I am not the best

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judge. But Sam, you seemed
to be quite surprised that I didn't realize

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they hadn't already split. I genuinely
thought they quietly just like what was the

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vibe I guess the last few years, so obviously they well, we all

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kind of fell apart for them when
singer Tyler Carter got like quite serious allegations

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against him and departed from the band. And then they were kind of like,

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that's both their vocalists now out of
the band. What are they going

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to do? YEA, did they
release anyway albums or anything. I don't

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recall any other recorded output like coming
at that point. They might have done

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like like an instrumental track, because
they're all like the basis is, like

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there's twenty musicians in Issues. They
were just you know, doing like quite

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metal court points. But it all
just kind of seems to come a part

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at that point, and then quietly
they they sort of shifted off and they

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were doing other things. Members were
playing another band, So I thought that

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was that was it? Like Issues
were done quietly. I guess they kind

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of felt the same, but they're
like, we should put some kind of

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official stamp on it and be like, these are the last shows we're going

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to play as a band. Yeah, And I and I respect that because

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having everything sort of derailed by you
know, a series of releases that were

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not as well received, or by
the second album where it all went wrong

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for them that kind of critically like
from the art because the first time everyone

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still loved and then it was a
really bad second album stalled the momentum.

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Third album looks like it's getting back
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our vocalist is are wrong, and
so like we can't even Yeah. So

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the having a kind of downturn in
how much enthusiasm there was for the band,

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followed by the most recognizable sort of
star presence in the band having to

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be removed, and then followed by
COVID hitting and obviously, you know,

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any very little momentum they had as
a band completely stopped. Yeah. Like

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I said, the rest of these
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I respect this decision. I hope
the people who were like, you know,

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the long time issues faithful go out
to those shows. Where they are

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able and you know, they're able
to sort of give it a nice send

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off. Like I said, I
I never liked this band. I found

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them actively very annoying musically, but
I can at least go, well,

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it's just it wasn't aimed at me, you know, that kind of talented

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musicians. They were doing a genre
mix up and stuff that was never really

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going to be my bag. It's
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like a you know, I remember
a decade ago when people were really fucking

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jazzed about first album. I would
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be like, oh yeah, the
guy singing is well, let's do all

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that in a different kind of way. But just you know, a bit

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of a stamp of like, yeah, there's a band from ten years ago

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who were all the rage. You
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into it no longer to be one
of us. In the words of Todd

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Jones, I guess another one come
back, really weird one. This The

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Hope Conspiracy Surprise released their first music
in fourteen years. It is an EP.

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It's four tracks long. The Hope
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up by one of my friends who
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myself, posted something that's gonna be
like, apparently all the bands I liked

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fifteen years ago are all just coming
back now. Can We spoke about another

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such band last week, The Hope
Conspiracy really fucking good hardcore band when they

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were around. And then Kevin particularly, we've known he's been continually just fired

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up for that time because he's been
the vocalist in All Pigs Must Die,

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and he just always sounds completely vicious. I put this EP on and again

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immediately that crusty kind of production job
so fiery. Kevin sounds farro It's really

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angry lyrically. But they've got compared
to you know, Nails Trapped, them

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more pigs of a Star he kind
of some of the bands he's you know,

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gone alongside with more recently. They've
got slightly more that kind of rock

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and rolly hardcore thing. And there's
a track Dogfight on it that has like

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a really gallowsy riff and that was
a really nice hit or something like that.

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Today. You know, I really
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those bands that kind of knew of
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like what I've heard, and I
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this is just fiery, yeah,
seeming a little bit that sort of rock

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and roll kind of touch of melodic, kind of hardcore like stuff going on

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in as well. It just mean
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violent as a nails or trap them
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really fun time with this, just
sor ep that that closing that dog fight

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where yeah he has got that like
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to it really cool. Yeah,
I mean full house because for me,

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the Whole Conspiracy always one of those
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on them because I only ever heard
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where people would be reeling off shot
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oh yeah, and the Hope Conspiracy, So I never gave it really the

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time of day. And sticking this
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is, four tracks like crusty dB
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pissed off suits me. Yeah,
Cole Blue is a good record if anyone

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wanted to go back and find out
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many a year ago. But like
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good stuff, right there is there's
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two two. Uh. The first
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another band that I feel like we
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existing. They have covered Bullet with
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butterfie things. Right. I'm not
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the Bashing Pumpkins in their prime weren't
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not even gonna say this is not
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a mental thing to say. But
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or whatever, would have the capacity
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say. It's like there's a really
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Bullet with Butterfly Wings, else it
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right land to tread that line.
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man, the voice he's putting on
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points he's trying to like Billy Corgan. At some points he's not. And

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it's just like both sounds shit and
there's no bite. Like again, but

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by things I mean, I think
it's a fucking incredible song and it's got

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like Corgan at his most kind of
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of like venom. Remove that and
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It does not land as a song
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Like I kind of I saw the
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I'll be sort of a shrug.
These drums make that last blink on

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it two albums sound like led Zeppelin
four. Like I know people don't really

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like Billy's voice, but this sounds
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like he's taking the piss. It's
like so like prissy and grating the whole

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time. It's like, like you
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the tightrope with some of the stuff
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is a good example where if he
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be a bit annoying. And it's
like, oh, this is what everyone

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else he is who don't like the
Smashing Pumpkins. Yeah, and uh the

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next part of that is uh.
Bon Jovi this week released a Christmas single.

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I have not seen a single word
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it when I was, you know, trowling for news and I was like,

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what, no one. I think
I'm the first person to have heard

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the bon Jovi Christmas single that was
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I mean, this is this is
the Mums, isn't it. This

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is like exclusively like but what I
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well, I know how that chorus
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you don't need to listen to the
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love but this is like, I

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mean, this is the first music
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he tried to do political I know, and again I've not cared for bon

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Jovi album forever basically, but like
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but this is this is so naf
isn't it? Like I mean that music

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genuinely sounds like a little cassio keyboard
pre recording track. I couldn't believe how

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cheap it sounded. Yeah, and
like John of John bon Jovi, like

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he's had his vocal troubles live,
but I presumed they would find a way

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to protect and disguise that in the
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haven't bothered or by the sound of
it, couldn't afford to because he sounds

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just he sounds so bad. And
bon Jovi are kind of one of the

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bands you think in their pump could
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feels like everything they do now is
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Like they did a political album no
one really cared. Okay, well let's

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we'll do Christmas. I don't I
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Yeah, reading festival to speaking of
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I think that's very predictable, considering
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else are they going to go.
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they had to cancel got announced for
like the weekend just after reading or a

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couple of years afterwards, so it
was like makes sense. And also TNM

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relevant spirit Box are on there.
Maybe they'll have a bunch of Megan the

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Stallion fans who just learned who they
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be cool. Otherwise, you know, you know, that's that's our representation

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there. I think that's about all
we can realisticly ask for this In terms

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of more live music news, I'm
I'm very upset about currently. I'm very

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sensitive on the center, but I
guess I need to give you guys the

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moment to be excited. Nay Palm
Death have announced the twenty twenty four edition

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of a tour they've done for years
and years now. It's called the Campaign

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for Musical Destruction. I went to
the one earlier this year. The lineup

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was not this good. Let me
tell you next year's edition features Pick Primitive

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Man and worm Rots. Fucking hell. I saw this, and I particularly

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I saw Pig Destroyer, who then
coming over to the UK is like quite

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a rare event, and that makes
worm Rock coming from Singapore feel like the

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second biggest event of this particular thing, and I went, what the fuck?

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And then I saw Liverpool, What
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the city where I currently am based. And then I saw the date and

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went, no, how have they
put the Northwest date on both tours?

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This is the same night I'm gonna
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I'd already bought that ticket like fucking
weeks ago because they were like, tickets

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are running low, and now I
don't really know what to do. I'm

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like, do I sell my Cattle
ticket to try and go see Pig Destoryer

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in Liverpool? Or do I miss? Like it's I'm I'm very upset about

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the fact and everyone else seems to
be just fine and everyone's like, oh

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yeah, I get to see these
two tours in the same week, or

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fuck you. You guys are excited
I've seen I've never seen one more Pink

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Destroyer and I'm just like, god, damn this package. Like and again

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like loving is primitive man, But
when they're like the kind of the weak

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link on the lineup, that also
kind of says just how fucking spectacle and

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they will be like one of the
heaviest bad Oh yeah, I'm sure they

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will be fucking like really cool live, but you kind of go like,

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oh, don't be primitive man on
that lineup Like that, that's the sort

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of step of just how fucking good
it is. God fucking damn as a

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package. This is going to be
the most insane, intense ort of nights

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for extreme melk You're going to see
next year, isn't it. This was

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like cartoon rubbing your eyes, like
tongue wagging sort of thing. There's just

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no way. And honestly, I've
never parted with money for a show so

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quickly, because I mean, what
you've got here is the band that invented

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grind cores, one of the most
important extreme bands ever, if not the

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most important, the band that kind
of perfected it by taking it to artistic

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heights and the best grind band of
the last fifteen years, and primitive Man

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coming to inducing continents like just yes
please and like you say, like worm

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is kind of oh yeah, and
playing because I just slapped over the bottom

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of the lineup insane, Like just
honestly, this is like the Big Four

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for me. I am so excited. Yeah, it's fucking absolutely ludicrous,

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and I'm gonna be just like Corner
Yeah, trying to work out for the

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next fucking several months. Can I
be in two places at once? Probably

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not? And my my favorite headline
since the one where the guy from Stained

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like killed multiple coyotes and fucking spelled
out like Trump twenty twenty four, whatever

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the fucking was said. I'm gonna
read this headline Verberton God smacks Sully Erna

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finally releases his documentary on himself.
Fair enough, someone else, right,

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could be like, I'm gonna chronicle
what is his documentary on himself gonna be

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about? Just COVID denial? Like
what the fuck I'm going to watch this?

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I mean, I'm not going to
watch this because we know my feelings

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on Godsmack. I mean, I'm
not watching because I love God's smack.

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But I mean maybe I'll be proven
wrong, but I've never found Sully a

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particularly compelling figure, and I don't
think it's going be abut to Scott Walker

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documentary. But I want to know
what he finds compelling about himself. I

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want to know what he stand alone. Yeah, it's all lies down alone,

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not quite you know, the Beatles
documentary andthing like that in terms of

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like, oh yeah, that's a
piece of one God's match on my note

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because it was on Prince of Persia. I agree, Eliot, it's like

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the idea of like what fascinatingly like
I don't know, like biased pearly,

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like you know, Persona or the
man from Godsnap put forward about himself,

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but that he feels is so right
to make it documentary about beautiful stuff.

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All right, Patreon supporters, this
week, it's pretty fucking busy right now

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in terms of like cramming things in
before December arrives, and we obviously have

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a whole load of stuff to do
there. So around this time we would

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normally be announcing album clubs. I
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Things have just sort of piled up. Album club will make its triumphant

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return fully in the new year,
but we have a priority to fit in

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before all of that new end of
year stuff in December. It's the small

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matter and I'm sure it's what most
of you we wanted us to do as

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well of closing up the alis in
Chains special. So next week, part

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three of three of alis in Chains
that is of course the William Devall years,

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we are going to pick up with
the reunion and a little album called

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Black Gives Way to Blue. Then
we are going to carry right forward assess

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all the slightly less discussed stuff since
then and generally assess the entire legacy and

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wrap it all up at the end. So really again, I've been a

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little bit anxious to be like I
want to get into that. I want

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to I want to fucking you know, talk about rainy of and all these

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kind of things like I'm excited to
do it. And I guess the most

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recent thing it is the fact that
we had our Saw and Exorcist Believer chat

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for the tim horror folks, which
was very, very funny, like one

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of the more like laughing on episodes
we've had in a hot minute, some

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of my all time favorite T and
M quotes. As I said, we

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were on some tangents, absolutely insane
stuff being prompted by some pretty insane movies.

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So that is there. As said
Alison Chase, Part three coming very

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very soon. So thank you everybody
who used to support us at patroon dot

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com slash that's dart Metal Reviews for
you know. The main point of discussion.

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We are here for gathered today.
Like I said last week, this

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last episode can be a little scan
sometimes for a last dose. We have

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got some really strong stuff. I
think part of it is just the fact

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that I think it was like the
last week of October, after we'd already

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done our review shows, slows of
things came out, but that continuing on

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it in Novenber, we have got
some stuff for you. We are going

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to start with the big name established
band of the bunch, a comeback album.

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In fact, the Gaslight Anthem history
Books is its name. Sam.

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In the years that the gas Light
Anthem were absent, how much did you

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want this album? You know?
Like, was it a case of what's

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done is done, the legcy is
what it is, or like, were

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you pining for more gas Light Anthem? Well, obviously I still got like

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four Brian Fallon records in that time, which like they were different question,

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you know, but they're still you
know he writes songs or so away,

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he sings so away that there was
just there's ways about Brian fan that he's

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going to go about things that are
going to give me that part of that

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hit that I want. But I
did, especially after they initially sort of

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started coming back around. Was it
eighteen twenty nineteen when they first started playing

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shows, and I was like,
Okay, if you're gonna do this,

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I want like a prop for you
and I want something creative and that came

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a few years later when they properly
came back last year. So I like,

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I was always kind of like,
even though I was getting those kind

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of like Gaslight and from Light albums
from Brian, I wanted the Fall.

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I did still want the full thing, the Fall sort of comeback package.

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Yeah, the Gaslight Anthem, I
guess notable as being like by far the

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biggest band in the sort of sub
style that we lovingly slash, you know,

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derisively, dependent on which one of
us is talking to call Springsteen core.

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That like pure American heartland rock as
it is properly known, but filtered

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through the lens of punk specifically,
that makes it a bit more us you

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know, things you would see on
Epitath records whatever. I suppose that they

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are the one of those too have
gotten legit big, right, like as

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you know, one of the last
moments of rock music having mainstream popularity in

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the kind of mid two thousands,
I know, you know, obviously now

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we have bands like the Menzingers,
who, through continued hard work, have

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like reached a point where they can
pretty consistently fill pretty good venues tour after

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00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,599
tour. But the gasl Anthem only
their second album, The fifty nine,

407
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:03,440
sound like Blue Overnight in a way
you don't really see with rock bands very

408
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,920
often these days, legit big record, they're like actual Bruce Springsteen's best mates.

409
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,559
Is I guess part of the Gas
Anthem's legacy the fact that they are

410
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,119
the only band of that kind of
twenty first century heartland punk style to have

411
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:21,720
gained any legit kind of mainstream success. Yeah. I think that would be

412
00:27:21,759 --> 00:27:25,200
part of it, because I think
that's why were they then kind of splinter

413
00:27:25,319 --> 00:27:29,079
off in this and they do go
a bit more i'd say, like classic

414
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,079
rock and sort of appealing to a
card. They aren't just punks some people

415
00:27:33,079 --> 00:27:34,960
who listen to the ship we listened
to, so because they had all the

416
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:40,559
ones who got legit big, they
do kind of seek to appeal to a

417
00:27:40,599 --> 00:27:44,400
wide audience beyond that. So that
is gonna certainly color part of their legacy.

418
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,519
Yeah. Earlier this year we did
an album club on their previously final

419
00:27:48,599 --> 00:27:51,640
album, Get Hurt, which was
an interesting one for me because for me,

420
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,119
it's like, Okay, I don't
like this kind of thing very much,

421
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,359
and I don't like this band,
so to go, this band I

422
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,319
don't like normally made this last album
that was genally viewed as like a misfire.

423
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,440
You know, they tried something different. How do I feel about that?

424
00:28:03,319 --> 00:28:04,559
That was kind of interesting? This
one? I think? Is it

425
00:28:04,599 --> 00:28:08,920
fair to say that after some of
the kind of weirder, clunkier creative choices

426
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,799
and get Hurt, this is you
know, there are things about it that

427
00:28:11,839 --> 00:28:17,480
are different, but in core sort
of approach a more typical gas like Anthem,

428
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,000
you know, fair they're like that
the more normal idea of I guess,

429
00:28:22,039 --> 00:28:23,480
like what a comeback album is going
to be. You kind of want

430
00:28:23,519 --> 00:28:27,200
the band that you missed. Yeah, this is what is the thing with

431
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,279
the arm that struck me is that
this this felt like, oh okay,

432
00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:33,119
this is the Gas Anthem just back. It's it's got that thing, you

433
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,440
know what we said about when the
Men's gives, you know, where it's

434
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:41,160
an older, more kind of like
not as like fiery fast version of them.

435
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,680
But this sounded like, oh yeah, this is the Gas Anthem.

436
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:47,440
This is not them trying to do
kind of like big kind of grungy arena

437
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:48,640
rock stuff like they were trying to
do and Get Hurt and some of those

438
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,839
more kind of misguided decisions. This
is just oh yeah, cool the gas

439
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:59,559
Anthem writing songs that sound like Bruce
Ringstein. Cool. Yes, But there

440
00:28:59,599 --> 00:29:03,960
are some less crowd pleasing aspects around
this album. It's it's no surprise really

441
00:29:04,039 --> 00:29:07,759
the experience I had with this,
and I was always you know, approaches

442
00:29:07,799 --> 00:29:11,359
with you. I'm always going to
put that on the back burner and let

443
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,759
you know, the Gasla Anthem fans
kind of just dictate the narrative. But

444
00:29:15,799 --> 00:29:19,000
this record is a few weeks old. We haven't seen a really big rush

445
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,359
of love for the Gasla Anthem,
at least oncet our you know, podcast

446
00:29:22,359 --> 00:29:25,400
audience, the way we did for
example, Alexis on Fire last year when

447
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,359
they released their their album. There
are a number of people who we like,

448
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,799
love the Gasa Anthem who have said
they've been really let down by this,

449
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,119
some of them involved in this podcast. Some of them are we I

450
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,640
put up a pole because I was
interested on the Facebook group that we have

451
00:29:40,079 --> 00:29:42,119
and I said, you know,
Gasla Anthem fans, that's directly who I'm

452
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,759
talking to here, what you make
in this new record. And I think

453
00:29:45,799 --> 00:29:51,039
it ended up being something like sixty
forty of people who have been let down

454
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,119
by this album versus people who really
like it. And when I first put

455
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,440
up the pole, I was like, oh my god, this is going

456
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,200
to be brutal because the first bunch
of votes was like more like eighty twenty

457
00:29:57,279 --> 00:30:03,880
or something, so am maybe as
little of a surprise that despite all of

458
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,039
that, you do love this album. So what do you make about like,

459
00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:10,559
you know, not just me forget
I'm here, but you know some

460
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:15,480
of your fellow Brian fallon you know, foot Kisses not liking this album so

461
00:30:15,599 --> 00:30:21,240
much. Well, the thing is
like, outside of the three first singles

462
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:22,640
that they dropped, which I was
kind of like love at first listen on

463
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,920
them, I wasn't blown away this
album at first. This album took a

464
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,400
while because I had it about a
month before it came out. Even as

465
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,480
well, I've had this album for
close to two months now and I've listened

466
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,480
to it an awful lot in that
time because when I hit pout it and

467
00:30:36,559 --> 00:30:38,559
I was kind of just like,
Okay, I'm like this is you know,

468
00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:41,519
it's recognized with the guests anthem,
but I'm not falling in love right

469
00:30:41,559 --> 00:30:45,440
away with it. And it's kind
of taking some time. Outside of the

470
00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:49,039
positive charge history books and little fires
those ones, and there was the thing

471
00:30:49,119 --> 00:30:53,400
is because they put out the free
like kind of three of the most upbeat

472
00:30:53,839 --> 00:30:56,440
songs on it as the singles,
and then a lot of this album is

473
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:03,039
it's quite slow and quite introspective,
and it was kind of a weird adjustment.

474
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,359
I was like, Okay, there's
a lot more of that sort of

475
00:31:04,359 --> 00:31:07,759
stuff. So I had to sit
and listen to it, and that means

476
00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:11,960
I don't think it is as immediately
crowd pleasing because a lot more of it

477
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:17,160
is on the slower side. And
so it took me a while to just

478
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,920
that, but once I did,
and these songs just kind of like seled

479
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,519
in with me, and it just
eventually became this like warm blanket of an

480
00:31:22,519 --> 00:31:26,400
album that I just felt very cozy
and comfortable listening to. And that was

481
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,440
I think the experience I got at
the end of it was at was like,

482
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,480
oh, this is introspective and weary
gasl Anthem, but one that I

483
00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:37,799
find once like all the bit sort
of fence places and some of the choices

484
00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:42,400
of production and Brian not being as
kind of like bit belling out as years

485
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:47,160
and being a lot more weary.
Once I adjusted to that, I was

486
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,319
having a much better time with this, and I have eventually fallen in love

487
00:31:49,359 --> 00:31:53,119
with this album. Yeah, I
think the idea that this is an album

488
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,160
that you really need to kind of, you know, let a simmer and

489
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:57,680
it will likely grow on you if
you are like a gaslan Anthe fan,

490
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,839
I think that's a fair one.
I also think maybe there are choices and

491
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:07,640
details around it that maybe make it
not so inviting to actually want to spend

492
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:12,519
That is. I can understand that
I don't have that issue myself, but

493
00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:15,640
I can understand where that might be
a thing that some people might. Yes,

494
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,960
you have your say first, you
know one of your favorite other bands

495
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:22,720
they are back. What is great
about this album? I mean, I

496
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,480
think the best songs in it are
as good as I could anything I could

497
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,240
possibly want from The gas Anthem.
I think history Books, the title track,

498
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,240
which I like. When that song
got announced, it was kind of

499
00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:34,519
like, oh yeah, Gus,
I just paut a song and Bruce springs

500
00:32:34,519 --> 00:32:37,680
and is guesting on it. That's
just like, Okay, I can't not

501
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:43,920
like this. But the lyricism I
thinking is there's some good storytelling on it.

502
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,880
It's kind of quite a comforting,
kind of like they've always been there,

503
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:51,200
like because it's now that's very like
looking back on breakups and all that,

504
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,960
and so you can kind of tell
that that's even if it's bright singing

505
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,519
about stuff that isn't the band breaking
up, it is clearly kind of like

506
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,279
all about reconnecting, rediscovering your love
and passion and like a spark of things.

507
00:33:01,319 --> 00:33:04,920
And I feel like you get that
and you get on the journey the

508
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,319
album goes on, and when you
get those most really burst through, like

509
00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:12,440
I say, history Books Positive Charge, which was the first single and on

510
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,920
the album, when that riff actually
kicks in, now it's a real shot

511
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,400
to kind of like jolt you back
in after some really nice but quite subdued

512
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,160
songs. Though those sort of slower
songs for me, they are built on

513
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:29,240
really nice melodies, some really nice
details to them. It's again, it's

514
00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:31,640
not even a really wow show stopping
like oh my god, you're going to

515
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,839
remember this part of this, but
it's and it's got like a lot of

516
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:40,079
like details and touches like that that
I found really just enticing and engaging and

517
00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:44,319
rewarding. When I sort of let
them all wash over me, elliotts you

518
00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:46,359
as you often do, I guess
I imagine will come at this at a

519
00:33:46,359 --> 00:33:50,720
place of being somewhere between Sam and
myself in terms of kind of history with

520
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,079
and sort of predisposition for liking this
kind of thing and this band. So

521
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:01,559
the Gas Like Anthem's return for you
again, I don't know how much anticipation

522
00:34:01,599 --> 00:34:05,759
there may have been for this happen
with you, but a general assessment like

523
00:34:05,799 --> 00:34:08,840
how like I said, there is
a split even amongst kind of big Gas

524
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:13,480
Anthem fans with House Records going down, So I don't know where you're gonna

525
00:34:13,559 --> 00:34:15,800
end. Well. I think I
said this when we reviewed the single,

526
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,079
but I was never a massive fan
with her around in the first place.

527
00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:22,920
I think they've got a fair few
really strong tunes and maybe a good band

528
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,840
to have around, and like you
were saying, one of the last major

529
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,400
crossovers, so that I've always kind
of admired them in that sense. But

530
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,159
if there was never another Gas La
Anthem record, I wouldn't have cared,

531
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,840
to be honest, And having listened
to this a few times, I totally

532
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,320
see why so many fans aren't really
taking to it, because this is a

533
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:47,920
much more gentle, subdued, maybe
even like Patient record than their classic material.

534
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,440
In fact, this record I think
maybe is more in common with the

535
00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:55,599
National than anything other than Bruce Bruce
Tein. Yeah, I can see that.

536
00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:58,440
Well, this is why I said
they kind of crossed over to a

537
00:34:58,559 --> 00:35:01,400
pill earlier beyond and what like our
sort of corner where it does appeal to

538
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:06,679
people who don't like rock music and
punk or anything like. That's it,

539
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,440
and I like, you know,
like we said, I can see why

540
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:15,639
that would alienate some people, but
I prefer the National to almost all the

541
00:35:15,679 --> 00:35:20,400
other things that went into the Gas
like Mix before. So while this record

542
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,000
does have less bite and is quite
a polite album, you could say,

543
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,840
I think I've worn to this a
lot more than even a lot of the

544
00:35:28,039 --> 00:35:32,239
Gas like Faithful. I think it's
pretty good. No, yeah, I

545
00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:35,760
understand that. I said, you're
coming from a place of sort of like

546
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,960
not having that many expectations, and
they've done a thing you like a bit

547
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,000
more so fair enough, I was
like getting ready for this to be one

548
00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:45,280
where again Aroun'm you know, fighting
the corner against you two, bullying me

549
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:50,679
again, like extremely bizarre twist of
fate. I am acting as the voice

550
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:55,760
of majority of Gas like anthems.
You're still the majority of Gas Anthem fans,

551
00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:02,960
because I will say is reviewed like
way better than Get Hurt did.

552
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,800
Anyone's kind of got there a lot
of Gas Anthem fans I've spoken to and

553
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,000
be like, no, I like
this. It just it took a it

554
00:36:09,039 --> 00:36:13,960
took a minute. And again I
think the gas Anthon fans who aren't into

555
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,760
punk will probably have a bit more
of an easier time enjoying the plighter aspects

556
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,480
of it. Yeah, it's one
for the mums out there. Why is

557
00:36:21,559 --> 00:36:23,719
why is this record so low fi? Because like the first was it positive

558
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:29,079
charge? Yeah? The first thing
I remember hearing that and thinking, wow,

559
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:34,039
this sounds so creaky and old,
and maybe that is the effect they're

560
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:36,760
going for. Right Again, We're
not gonna do absolute Yeah, we're not

561
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,639
going so particularly punk again. It's
you know, kind of weathered and rickety.

562
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,840
I think, as opposed to your
position, Elliot, which is entirely

563
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,320
fair enough for me, I find
them sort of wet and boring in their

564
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:52,159
youth, so they've for me,
they've not got the spice to really do

565
00:36:52,199 --> 00:36:54,599
anything with that kind of weathered,
rickety kind of sound. Having the whole

566
00:36:54,679 --> 00:36:58,280
album rather than just that single be
that is where you go, okay,

567
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,719
like this, you know there's a
clear creative choice to go in that kind

568
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,519
of direction. But then I saw
this quote from Fallon in the press release

569
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,320
where like you're talking about Sam,
the kind of reconnection everything he said,

570
00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:09,840
none of us wanted to make a
very somber or serious record showing how much

571
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:14,360
we've matured. The overall mood was
a feeling of excitement to be back together

572
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,679
and making music that means something to
us. What do they think they've made?

573
00:37:19,039 --> 00:37:22,599
I say that on a song like
Little Fires, I mean that's bursting

574
00:37:22,599 --> 00:37:25,239
with them kind of just like exuberantly, kind of like playing trying to be

575
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,719
like an order version of the poment. So well, that's what's d of

576
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,519
was like tripping over itself at points. But I agree a lot of this

577
00:37:31,559 --> 00:37:37,920
album is quite serious and somber,
and that single by far one of the

578
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,079
most lively tracks on it, and
it sounds quite good compared to a lot

579
00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:44,119
of this, Like I always find
this stuff a bit like that. So

580
00:37:44,199 --> 00:37:47,679
whatever my problem is, I find
Brian Fallon as a songwriter to be one

581
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:52,800
of the most white bread vanilla men
to have ever become revered in rock music.

582
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,679
Was the most interesting word for me
to talk about because there's weird,

583
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,880
ill fitting choices on there. Him
going back to the Ryan Fallon thing.

584
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:02,880
I mean, you can play Brian
Fallon bingo on. So much of this

585
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,119
album was like lines that you know, only Brian Fallon could write that,

586
00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:10,480
the whole black jeans and autumn like
come on, I had so little to

587
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:15,039
say about this afternoon nap time of
an album. I I really need you

588
00:38:15,039 --> 00:38:23,159
guys to to help me out fair
enough, Like I can't fathom not loving

589
00:38:23,159 --> 00:38:32,239
what Brian Fallon does, like he's
boring, boring, But I because this

590
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:37,000
is the other thing is I will
say this, this feels like a in

591
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,760
a word way that there is there
is more of the solo Brian Fallon stuff

592
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:45,199
in here as well as kind of
this feel like a Gas Anthem album is

593
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,079
it's kind of this weird mix between
what he was doing on his solo stuff,

594
00:38:49,079 --> 00:38:51,639
which again I still say it's quite
gaslightly but it was a lot more

595
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,960
kind of low key and that sort
of thing. But this is just that

596
00:38:54,039 --> 00:38:58,639
with a bit more of a band
kind of four band effit when there's actual

597
00:38:58,679 --> 00:39:01,440
guitar solos and she like that going
on here as well, but it is

598
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:06,599
still very much Brian Fallon doing that
quite like kind of like I'm going to

599
00:39:06,679 --> 00:39:10,400
write a love song and I'm gonna
sing about like jeans and all of that

600
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:15,760
sort of shit and being a weatherman
and the moon, like all the sort

601
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:16,559
of things, and then lines I'm
just like, yeah, okay, Brian,

602
00:39:16,679 --> 00:39:21,119
But I'm also still like I just
my heart kind of melts every time

603
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:23,199
he SEMs like that, and I
hang on his every word, So I'm

604
00:39:23,199 --> 00:39:28,039
not the person to kind of like
come out there here and those like Brian

605
00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:30,920
Fallon boring. See. I think
this records pretty good, but I can't

606
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:36,119
really disagree with anything. Parents saying
like this is kind of a milky tea

607
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,559
Madeira cake record, like there's not
much on it where you go, holy

608
00:39:39,639 --> 00:39:43,039
shit, what have they done there? But well, I even said that,

609
00:39:43,079 --> 00:39:45,039
I said, this is not like
a sort of Showsman record, but

610
00:39:45,079 --> 00:39:47,280
it's a warm blanket of an album
for me that I have only time with.

611
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:52,079
Yeah, and like listening to it
the first time, I think maybe

612
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:54,320
I'll sympathize more with people not liking
it because I did. I was kind

613
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,480
of bracing myself for it to kick
off at any moment, and there are

614
00:39:57,519 --> 00:40:00,960
a couple of bits that are more
up temple, but generally speaking, this

615
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:05,239
is a very laid back gas Lanthm
record. But I mean, we're gonna

616
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,360
get to another record we're talking about
this month, which I do have this

617
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:14,480
problem with, and it's it's that
thing where if you're gonna kick off and

618
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,400
it's going to be exuberant and exciting, make it really exuberant and exciting,

619
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:22,159
and if you're not, don't bother. And in this case, for the

620
00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:23,920
most part, they haven't bothered.
And I think those are generally speaking,

621
00:40:24,119 --> 00:40:29,320
the best songs on the record,
Like Michigan nineteen seventy five, that very

622
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,199
pleasant, like a bit of a
sort of a Glockenspieley thing, which adds

623
00:40:32,199 --> 00:40:35,280
a bit of we're not really color. I don't know what you'd call it,

624
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,199
maybe like a lighter shade of gray, but just adds more stuff to

625
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:42,079
it. Spider Bites, I think, is a really solid opener, kind

626
00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:45,079
of understated and tasteful. Autumn with
that, they say black jeans an autumn

627
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:50,000
lyric. I mean there's no bite
whatsoever, but it's very nice. I

628
00:40:50,039 --> 00:40:54,880
mean, I wear black jeans in
autumn. It's about you. Yeah,

629
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,519
I mean that the weather Man does
sound a little bit like Foster the People,

630
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,760
which sounds like a really cruel thing
to say. That's more brutal than

631
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,880
anything I've written down. But when
it was on, I was like,

632
00:41:07,039 --> 00:41:09,840
hey, this is you know,
I'm not I'm not upset by it.

633
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,880
I'm not offended by Like, am
I going to be going back to this

634
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:17,639
record in a year's time? Probably
not. But I wasn't particularly bored either.

635
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:22,920
I was just enjoying the The Brian
Fallon show. Yeah, I think

636
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:27,920
Spider Bites as an opener. The
very first riff was like, oh,

637
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,519
that's not quite the first sound I
expected on a gasol anthem, Like it's

638
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:35,360
kind of sort of creaky rock and
roll thing where the production, which again

639
00:41:35,559 --> 00:41:40,159
we've kind of sketched around the production
on this, is extremely I just keep

640
00:41:40,199 --> 00:41:49,039
thinking of the word dead right like
it is just atget. I don't use

641
00:41:49,039 --> 00:41:52,079
the word dead in a insulting way. There are albums I love that particularly

642
00:41:52,119 --> 00:41:57,159
kind of dead sound to them,
But the first riff in that song that

643
00:41:57,199 --> 00:42:00,880
has a kind of interesting effect with
that sort of sound, and and then

644
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:05,119
it just hits a wall of like
nothing interesting happening, and I lose interest.

645
00:42:05,159 --> 00:42:07,239
But those first twenty seconds pretty oddfle
The rest of this is some of

646
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:12,119
those boring shit imaginable. That autumn
track My Head is just like dropping off

647
00:42:12,119 --> 00:42:17,119
my shoulders, going through again points
of interest. Very funny that the two

648
00:42:17,159 --> 00:42:21,119
guests on this album are Bruce Springsteen
and Stephan from pupp I think Yeah,

649
00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:24,639
fair play to the gas like anthem
for being like the mediating factor between those

650
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:29,440
two. They are like the middle
point, aren't they. Yeah, And

651
00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:31,440
that's Stephan's song, that's Little Fires. I guess that's the song that they

652
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,519
think is like earth Ad or something
like. That's got you know, it's

653
00:42:35,559 --> 00:42:37,480
got a sprinkle of punk in there. What fallon kind of wakes up his

654
00:42:37,519 --> 00:42:42,280
delivery a little bit. That that
was one you could imagine sitting on some

655
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,119
of the earlier line sink or Swim
or some of those sort of gas anthems

656
00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:47,239
where they always have that one song
where they they play a bit faster and

657
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:51,280
then they get a bit of like, oh yeah, they were they were

658
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,360
a punk band once upon a time, Like you can get that from Little

659
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,920
Fires. Yeah, I live in
the room above her has like an attempt

660
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,000
at a riff. For me,
it's good riff, like that it's a

661
00:43:01,039 --> 00:43:04,440
bit like when they did like the
hard rock riffs on Get Hurt. I

662
00:43:04,639 --> 00:43:07,280
tripped over it's a feet cunkly a
little bit, but I went on something.

663
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:08,719
I think that that song is kind
of like going, oh, you

664
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,519
know, we did have someone get
Hurt, let's do it right this time.

665
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,840
And I think that is the one
where they actually really nail what they

666
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,920
were doing on Get Hurt is on
that song. Yeah, but there are

667
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,880
a bunch of tracks on this that
I couldn't even write notes on because like,

668
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,519
at least at least Spanish love songs
stepping their foot off the gas on

669
00:43:24,559 --> 00:43:28,880
their Layers record introduced some of these
kind of new wave elements and those other

670
00:43:29,039 --> 00:43:31,000
sounds to kind of replace it.
I know, like the gas Anthem already

671
00:43:31,039 --> 00:43:34,480
had a moment of kind of experimentation
on Get Hurt. It didn't go well,

672
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,039
but for me, all I kind
of had left here was like the

673
00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:43,519
husk of the gas light anthem.
You don't want foster the people. I

674
00:43:43,559 --> 00:43:45,639
mean that tire track with Bruce Springsteen
I found to be so lethargic and stuff

675
00:43:45,639 --> 00:43:50,360
like that, where it is how
you think a big part is again in

676
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,000
the production and stuff, because that
and Positive Charge are songs where you can

677
00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:57,400
feel there's like some rock song melody
really trying to reach out there, but

678
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,159
they sound both in the performance and
the recording they sound really creaky. And

679
00:44:01,199 --> 00:44:04,400
I think that's maybe the thing that
a lot of the you know, Gaffle

680
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,239
Athm fans who aren't vibing with this
are feeling its like there's I can recognize

681
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:12,800
the band I loved in there,
but it's just such a like thin,

682
00:44:13,599 --> 00:44:17,639
rattily kind of weak version. I
do I do get you on the production

683
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,760
meaning because it's such a deliberate stylistic
choice to me that I'm kind of like,

684
00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:22,920
well, no, it's what they're
going for. They are going with

685
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:27,360
this like weathered vintage sound. I
everyone like the title track. It works

686
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,920
brilliantly, especially when you have Bruce
coming in and he's just like cruding around.

687
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:35,440
I was like, Bruce, you
can just I can't help it.

688
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,320
I'm just like my heart every when
he just starts crooning on that song was

689
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:43,679
like any ability for critical thought disappears
because Bruce Springsteen is currently singing and you

690
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,320
get the little bits of him and
like Brian kind of like trade off each

691
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,119
other a little bit and I'm like, this is all I want. I

692
00:44:47,159 --> 00:44:52,400
can't like, I don't know what
to say. You know, like I've

693
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,239
wanted a Bruce Springsteen gas at from
proper collaboration and not just videos, not

694
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:59,760
just videos of them doing each other's
songs together. Yeah, Like, so

695
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:01,960
I I got I wanted from that. I think that song is for me.

696
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:07,760
The melodies and that song are so
strong that they completely break through any

697
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:12,800
kind of potential production limitations that some
people might have of it. I just

698
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,079
think same with on positive charge.
When this am hits heights of the melodies,

699
00:45:16,119 --> 00:45:20,840
spider By, it's another one.
I'm like, any kind of creaky

700
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,159
productions, you say, can't hold
back how much I love these melodies,

701
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:30,480
and then see I'm kind of team
Perrin on history Books. As a song,

702
00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:34,679
I think, like, I really
like Bruce Springsteen, but he's he's

703
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,599
kind of dipping into Roger Waters territory
with the no come on, come on.

704
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:43,960
That's harsh. It feels a bit
like a kind of first draft on

705
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:50,079
his part, which I mean that
the idea, but like I mean,

706
00:45:50,119 --> 00:45:53,079
the melodies they singing are good,
but I'm not that taken this performance.

707
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:57,960
But a song like Little Fires that
to me is one of the songs where

708
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,719
you go, oh, this is
the thing that made the Gaslight Anthem a

709
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:05,079
special band the first time around.
And they made this really weird choice in

710
00:46:05,079 --> 00:46:07,880
that song to speed up and slow
down, which initially I didn't think worked

711
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:13,000
at all, but now I think
it adds a little flash of its much

712
00:46:13,079 --> 00:46:16,400
needed excitement in a song which I
already think is good. But we we've

713
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:22,280
all agreed in the record that's generally
a bit more subdued and patient. And

714
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:27,519
yeah, I mean, I'm generally
positive on this record, but I can

715
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:30,159
see why my parent you don't have
much to say about it, because I

716
00:46:30,159 --> 00:46:32,760
also don't. Despite the fact I
like it, I come away with not

717
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:37,000
a lot to talk about. I
think it's something where if you add maybe

718
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,440
one or two more like lively songs, even that would be the difference maker

719
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,079
for a lot of people. You
wouldn't even have to cut some of the

720
00:46:43,119 --> 00:46:45,000
slow ones because it's only ten tracks. Like if you had it as twelve

721
00:46:45,039 --> 00:46:47,719
tracks and had just two more songs
that we know were there to pick up

722
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,360
the pace, I for a lot
of the issue people would have would disappear

723
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,119
because there's just a bit more to
it and I think it's when you get

724
00:46:54,119 --> 00:46:58,480
to that one tother thing is it
Weatherman and Empires. I think it is

725
00:46:58,519 --> 00:47:01,239
where they are back to back is
maybe the only part where I kind of

726
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:05,920
go like, oh, this slows
down a bit too much. Yeah,

727
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,960
I mean Lifetime of Preludes is a
very funny title to sum up their eternal

728
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:13,119
blue balls ing of their music.
The last like brutal thing I will say

729
00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:16,199
about the gasal anthem is I don't
feel any life or chemistry in them as

730
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,920
players. Is the thing. And
here's the thing when it comes to them

731
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,599
as a band, right because I
know the reason that you have come two

732
00:47:22,599 --> 00:47:25,000
times time again, Sam to love
them is Brian's nice melodies and he's nice

733
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:30,360
stories. He's so nice. But
listening to the players play together, it's

734
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:35,119
so fucking dull on this album.
And the rhythm section is so like rudimentary

735
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,159
and it's horrifically clunky at times,
which is exacerbated big time by that horrible

736
00:47:38,199 --> 00:47:40,440
drum sound they have on this of
that kind of weird low VI thing.

737
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,360
The Mensingers, who are now in
like their kind of middle age period of

738
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,639
a band themselves beginning to be that
they have that sort of chemistry together they

739
00:47:49,679 --> 00:47:52,880
have that this is those guy go
bouncing off each other. That like the

740
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,920
slower, more middlely Mensinger's new album
is like we've already got that new Nails

741
00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:00,239
next to this, and the drumming
is so stiff with that recording, it's

742
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,519
just fucking like you know, it's
already fucking full of embalming fluid. And

743
00:48:02,559 --> 00:48:07,039
so at that point you go,
what is actually the point of the band,

744
00:48:07,039 --> 00:48:09,039
the gas La Anthem getting together again? Because if it's just nice man

745
00:48:09,079 --> 00:48:13,199
Brian Fallon and his nice melodies,
that is the drawer anyway, and he'd

746
00:48:13,199 --> 00:48:15,639
be doing that for years. What
do you get out of the gas La

747
00:48:15,679 --> 00:48:19,280
Anthem coming back? But no,
because that's the thing is someone who has

748
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,519
listened to those so Fallon records,
you can feel the difference of this band

749
00:48:22,599 --> 00:48:27,239
as a unit playing and again that's
probably like if you if you also want

750
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,159
to use you know, Brian Devotee
who like pause every set of records as

751
00:48:30,159 --> 00:48:34,159
well as you might not get that, but for me I'm like, oh

752
00:48:34,199 --> 00:48:37,920
no, no, you can feel
and again like I see what you mean

753
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,800
when maybe like the drumson and the
production not being the most kind of like

754
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:45,239
dynamic thing but there is touches of
how they're kind of just slotting together,

755
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:51,320
which do just give a different canvas
to what Fallin is working off of.

756
00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:57,679
He's gone from like having no color
or texture solo to having one extra color

757
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:09,360
and one extra testure with a band. Okay, fair like like fair enough?

758
00:49:10,159 --> 00:49:15,079
Yeah, I mean again, I
don't even hate I guess inherently them

759
00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:20,119
doing that thing, because like I'm
saying, stuff that gets a certain power,

760
00:49:20,199 --> 00:49:22,880
having that almost like dead eyed rustic
sort of quality, like maybe this

761
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:27,239
is the gas like Anthem's Eternal hails
dot dot dot dot dot dot, but

762
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,920
like it's just a band who I
find boring anyway, they're boring demos,

763
00:49:32,159 --> 00:49:37,360
right. I can see both why
a devotee would go along with it because

764
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,840
they just love hearing this man singer
songs and you know, going in this

765
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:46,320
kind of more delicate direction. I
could also see why someone will be disappointed

766
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,320
by a long white ended by this
And like I said, I wanted to

767
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,320
like open the floor and let the
gaslight fans and some fans just dictate the

768
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,880
narrative. But as we've seen,
we do have a real split there.

769
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:01,840
I still think it's less overall divisive
from my encounters than Get Hurt was.

770
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:07,760
But sure, But again, I
think the thing is is within those first

771
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,960
four records, they are like for
me, two absolute like ten out of

772
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:15,000
ten classics, and the other two
are great albums. So I think,

773
00:50:15,039 --> 00:50:17,440
like one that earlier one, they
set such a kind of like high bar

774
00:50:17,599 --> 00:50:22,679
that if they're not hitting that,
people are going to think be more kind

775
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,239
of like critical and harsh on it. And I think that's where both this

776
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:30,119
and Get Hurt have been hit slightly. I think this is more. I

777
00:50:30,159 --> 00:50:32,880
would still put this up there close
to on the level like American slang.

778
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:37,480
I might even prefer this to American
slang. But I might be alone in

779
00:50:37,519 --> 00:50:39,440
saying that because I know a lot
of people like that album. But yeah,

780
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:44,679
I mean, ultimately we can only
refer to the big Gasol Anthem fan

781
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,239
here and you love it, so
let that be the takeaway from the review.

782
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,079
But by the sounds of it,
maybe some of you agree with me

783
00:50:51,159 --> 00:50:52,800
as well. I guess. Let
us know. History Books by the Gasola

784
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:59,360
Anthem second lead review this month.
If you want some big, unadulterated melodic

785
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,119
rock music, but something with a
bit more bizaz and a bit more energy,

786
00:51:04,079 --> 00:51:06,920
We've got an album for you today. It's from a band called Green

787
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,079
Lung. The album is called This
Heathen Land. It is album number three

788
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,440
from Green Lung, and I think
this is the case where they have had,

789
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,519
you know, very much more and
more eyes on them as they've gone

790
00:51:14,519 --> 00:51:16,719
along. We review them for the
first time on album two, Black Harvest,

791
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,519
back in twenty twenty one and around
there, and since they're in particular

792
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,599
in the UK, I feel like
there's been people kind of rubbing their hands

793
00:51:24,599 --> 00:51:28,599
together, going this band, this
band are going to be something, and

794
00:51:28,639 --> 00:51:30,960
it felt like the side of the
UK metal scene that isn't you know,

795
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:35,880
based around your metal core stuff and
the more kind of more mainstream fair usually

796
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,920
at the moment, a lot of
people were kind of getting ready to crown

797
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:43,280
Green Lung as like the next big
band and kind of willing them on to

798
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,800
do it. Maybe they weren't actually
there yet, but there was definitely people

799
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:47,280
talking about them with that kind of
they're going to be massive sort of tone

800
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:52,239
about it that maybe isn't the most
helpful time and sometimes puts bands at disadvantage,

801
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,639
but regardless, they've signed to Nuclear
Blast for this one. I heard

802
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,960
rumblings about this album of like,
you know, they've really gone there.

803
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,559
They've knocked out of the park.
They've made their stab At like a big

804
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,159
album, and I thought, you
know, we'll wait and see, you

805
00:52:02,199 --> 00:52:06,840
know it, is it hype or
have they really done it? I am

806
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,840
now a Green Lung fan, certainly
because I thought they were good before.

807
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,960
You know, there was obviously something
there, but any sort of like deally

808
00:52:14,039 --> 00:52:17,679
dallying in whatever, I'm definitely in
the club now. This is one of

809
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:21,800
the biggest leaps in quality between albums
that we've kind of talked about, i'd

810
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,760
say recently in terms of albums when
we covered the last one and are now

811
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:29,440
covering this. I think this is
spectacular. I mean the jump up like

812
00:52:29,559 --> 00:52:32,679
and it's like they've totally changed things
just better in every way. Yeah,

813
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:37,559
Like I liked the you know,
I liked Black Harvest quite a lot.

814
00:52:37,559 --> 00:52:38,639
I quite liked it as well.
I had had problems that I'd kind of

815
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:43,079
got a bit hung up on,
but it wasn't negative. But yeah,

816
00:52:43,119 --> 00:52:45,320
this is I didn't even have problems. It was more that like, yeah,

817
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,119
this band are you know, they're
growing and they're going somewhere. But

818
00:52:47,199 --> 00:52:50,599
this is the first out Green Long
album where I'm like, yeah, that

819
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,280
is excellent, Like that has not
just one but a ton of songs.

820
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:58,039
I'm gonna remember, like far far
from now. Women not reviewing this album

821
00:52:58,079 --> 00:53:00,800
or anything, and it's really exciting, I guess, to have particular review

822
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:02,679
to be like not just a band
that we liked doing good things as per

823
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:07,440
but a fulfillment of promise, Like
this is the kind of thing we get,

824
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:08,960
you know, a few times a
year. Maybe it's the moment where

825
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,719
you can really start shouting and go
like, yeah, everyone listen to this

826
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,960
full house. I was in the
sort of same boats both of you.

827
00:53:16,039 --> 00:53:19,760
I kind of liked Green Lung.
I wouldn't say I love them. I

828
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,760
saw them at Bloodstock a couple of
years ago, and they kind of I

829
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,880
kind of knew then that they had
song power, but for whatever reason,

830
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:30,079
they didn't quite break through that barrier
from going wow, this is a nice

831
00:53:30,119 --> 00:53:32,880
band too. This is a genuinely
great band. And I hadn't heard those

832
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:37,239
rumblings you were talking about. So
when I put this record on and the

833
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:43,639
first three or four songs just came
roaring out the traps, it was like

834
00:53:45,119 --> 00:53:46,920
it was like the homecoming Queen that
I wasn't expecting. It was just like,

835
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:52,400
oh, yes, more deep purple, thank you. Yeah, like

836
00:53:52,599 --> 00:53:54,719
green Long if you've not been aware
of them to this point, they play

837
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:59,480
a kind of seventies stone a doo
my guest. I know theoretically it would

838
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,159
apply, by I don't really like
using the stoner term too heavily with them

839
00:54:02,159 --> 00:54:05,960
because that makes them something like Beelza
Bomb or something, which really they got

840
00:54:06,199 --> 00:54:09,880
way more in common with kind of
flamboyant seventies, like classic arena rock,

841
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:15,119
like Queen meets Sabbath. How I
like, yeah, all of those things,

842
00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:17,880
and you know that's absolutely their skill
set, particularly on this album.

843
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,079
I think their name makes them sound
a bit more like a weed band,

844
00:54:21,119 --> 00:54:23,039
but someone pointed out to me that
it's probably more like trees and forests being

845
00:54:23,079 --> 00:54:24,760
like the lungs of the earth,
and I was like, oh, yeah,

846
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:29,800
that does apply. But they they
turn all of these kind of fixations

847
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:34,599
on, like the weird pagan past
of the United Kingdom, an ultra specific

848
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,280
British kind of reference points. Like
the full title of this is this Heathen

849
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:42,039
Land, a Journey into a cult
Albion. There's a prologue track which sounds

850
00:54:42,039 --> 00:54:46,679
like kind of nineteen seventies British TV
quite kind of shit. The guy they

851
00:54:46,679 --> 00:54:50,199
get through their cover art is Richard
Wells, who, like I have got

852
00:54:50,199 --> 00:54:52,800
like books and movies and things kind
of his art all over them because he's

853
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,440
like the guy in the UK for
like, oh we need like a poster

854
00:54:55,519 --> 00:54:59,599
for a field in England or something
to look kind of folk horrory. Get

855
00:54:59,679 --> 00:55:01,639
him. It always throws me.
This bander from London, like the literal

856
00:55:01,679 --> 00:55:05,679
biggest metropolis if you think they have
to be from like Suffolk or like by

857
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:10,880
Stonehenge or something. But they turn
those things into bangers that make people want

858
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,360
to be in on those things because
the songs are so big because I like

859
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,760
the shit they're referencing, right,
I love that as well. I'm in

860
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:21,599
it. That surface level appeal.
Bands like that, I think have a

861
00:55:21,679 --> 00:55:24,719
risk of, you know, appealing
to those people who are only already in

862
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:29,480
on those same interests, and it
can limit a band's trajectory as much as

863
00:55:29,519 --> 00:55:31,639
it can be kind of a thing
to draw people in if the music itself

864
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:37,159
doesn't have that universal appeal. That's
what I think they've smashed on this.

865
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:42,559
Yeah, I absolutely agree, because
again I'm totally down for all the folk

866
00:55:42,639 --> 00:55:45,480
horror kind of like dressings that they
put all around all of this. But

867
00:55:45,559 --> 00:55:51,360
what they've just done this time is
they've combined that with undeniable just kind of

868
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,360
hit songwriter within the framework of metalstones. This is cracking the formula of like

869
00:55:55,679 --> 00:56:02,079
Ghost, essentially blending huge hot melody
and like pop sensibilities in the songwriting with

870
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:09,719
like just British stonery doomy heavy metal, and it is just such a irresistible

871
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:14,519
combination when you wrap it up in
all this kind of like witchcraft and folk

872
00:56:14,639 --> 00:56:17,920
horror kind of like lyricism and everything
like that, and it never it just

873
00:56:19,519 --> 00:56:22,599
it's such a fun journey from start
to finish to go on that I just

874
00:56:23,039 --> 00:56:24,920
it was I was gonna, like, okay, cool, what this is,

875
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,239
And then the moment that chorus on
the Forest Church hit, I was

876
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,360
like, They've that's it. They've
they've cracked it. The moment that kind

877
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:34,159
of comes in and I've not had
that chorus leave my head since I first

878
00:56:34,199 --> 00:56:37,920
heard this album. Elliott, you
kind of said it. The opening run

879
00:56:37,159 --> 00:56:45,280
of like three four songs on this
record is genuinely ludicrous. I think people

880
00:56:45,519 --> 00:56:50,920
kind of overlook and when it comes
to what bands are going to be popular.

881
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,840
People overlook song power for sound.
Oh it sounds like this, so

882
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:59,039
it's going to be popular. This
is not a style of music that it

883
00:56:59,079 --> 00:57:01,840
is inherently popular now or you presume
to be popular. But you put this

884
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:08,519
on and you just go, this
is genuinely arena size Rainbow Blois to throwback.

885
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:12,760
And if there wasn't another band already
doing it on the biggest stages possible,

886
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,400
with the biggest show, it would
feel like such an enigma. Because

887
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:21,559
when Prologue with its kind of dungeon
since and the way it introduces the record

888
00:57:21,559 --> 00:57:25,159
with it's time to explore this heathen
land, and then that sabbath bloody sabbath

889
00:57:25,199 --> 00:57:31,360
risk comes in, It's just like
who who likes heavy metal is not immediately

890
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:37,559
swept up in that, Like again, I'm really slamming razor sharp riff,

891
00:57:38,159 --> 00:57:42,159
and then I'm gonna going back to
the age of said of all for that,

892
00:57:42,159 --> 00:57:44,079
I'm going to say the thing I
don't like hearing other people say that

893
00:57:44,159 --> 00:57:50,880
chorus is fucking massive. It's so
fucking deniable likes something because it comes to

894
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,079
that verse, which is like his
vocals in that verse could be like they

895
00:57:53,159 --> 00:57:57,079
tread that line though. They could
be so annoying because he's so full of

896
00:57:57,159 --> 00:58:00,599
characters that all these like keyboard and
symphon, and I was like, in

897
00:58:00,639 --> 00:58:02,519
another world, I could not like
that. But whenever it comes round to

898
00:58:02,559 --> 00:58:09,760
the down to the Church, I'm
like, every time, it's fucking just

899
00:58:10,039 --> 00:58:14,440
belt it out, like it's a
bit lazy. I think to compare anything

900
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,079
that does like spooky nineteen seventies a
cult arena rock, to ghost And because

901
00:58:17,079 --> 00:58:21,039
a lot of these albums doesn't sound
like ghosts, I'm only doing that is

902
00:58:21,039 --> 00:58:23,800
because I was saying, is that
that No, No, the pop and

903
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,840
the metal kind of perfectly completely agree
to be in terms of, oh it

904
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,159
sounds like ghosts whatever. A lot
of this album doesn't. The Forest Church

905
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:35,800
does sound like a ghost song,
right, because the nasal vocally does sounds

906
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,440
particularly sort of popparish there. And
I mean this in a positive way,

907
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:42,639
because that chorus they you know,
that thing of like there's a thin nasally

908
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,840
kind of voice, but it gets
filled in by all this like jubilant choir

909
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:50,440
and this general sense of reverence and
it makes you want to throw your hands

910
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,320
up and cry for absolution. Right. That chorus is incredible, the way

911
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:57,280
it lifts up further, it goes
along and you're like down to the forest

912
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,920
church like it's so the the riffs
and the verses are kind of like,

913
00:59:01,519 --> 00:59:06,440
you know, funereal and evil,
like the like you might as well be

914
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,480
doing fucking like hubble bubble Caldron bubble
on those verses. Right. The theater

915
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:13,000
is all there, but it tops
it off with a hook and a melody

916
00:59:13,079 --> 00:59:15,920
that it's just like at that proper
fucking standard, Like it's a hook that

917
00:59:15,039 --> 00:59:17,679
doesn't just you know, fill in
the gap of this is where a chorus

918
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:22,800
goes, but it smashes it and
it goes there. And then Mountain Throne

919
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:30,840
has this like big fucker like greasy
riff biker rock and roll like something I

920
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:34,679
have an Orange Goblin song or something
riff. But the way the singer lets

921
00:59:34,719 --> 00:59:38,679
that main hook fly, you know
from Subterranea, it's like proper control of

922
00:59:39,039 --> 00:59:43,039
where you're gonna direct the Evan Flavor
song with with something like that, And

923
00:59:43,159 --> 00:59:45,440
yeah, we spoke about that as
the lead single. It's even better in

924
00:59:45,559 --> 00:59:47,880
the album. There's like at least
two other songs of this album I like

925
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,960
more than it. It's fucking brilliant, and then the two songs either side

926
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,599
of it, I like more than
nineteen five, which the real move And

927
00:59:54,679 --> 01:00:00,920
in this run suddenly you are hit
with Maxine Witch Quick, which, oh

928
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:04,920
my god, you are grooving all
over like the Goblin disco dance law to

929
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,320
that one that's simp. I was
like, oh, let's fucking go.

930
01:00:07,719 --> 01:00:10,679
It made me howl with laughter the
first time I heard it, and I

931
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,599
love that. I was just overjoyed
to hear it. You know, the

932
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,400
tone is so fun, but the
melody is unforgettable. The second you hear

933
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,920
it's's like, come on, let's
go party Tome. It's like it's got

934
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,840
spooky Highway star like this record is
so much deep purple on it. And

935
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:27,800
when they really bring it to the
four, bring it to the four like

936
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:32,239
that song, it just makes me
smile. Like in this run, I

937
01:00:32,239 --> 01:00:37,440
would say that Maxine Witch Queen in
theory is probably low. I'd probably have

938
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:42,000
it below Mountain Throne and the Forest
Church, but I can't physically do that

939
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,119
because the organ sounds like John Lord
and that is a sound that just tickles

940
01:00:45,199 --> 01:00:50,840
my heart. So and it just
again the whole thing. Maxine Witch Queen

941
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:52,599
just as a title, it's like, you're going to like that. Yeah,

942
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,840
they've they've nailed that ability to really
just play yeah that song immediately,

943
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,800
I'm gonna remember that one and like
I love they tease you with the chorus

944
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,760
on too pronged chorus again, it's
that the main keyboard line, dude,

945
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:07,159
do do do Do Do Do Do
Do That itself is hooky, and at

946
01:01:07,199 --> 01:01:08,960
first it feels like the chorus is
just gonna be cycle that round again and

947
01:01:09,119 --> 01:01:13,239
go Maxine over it and that'd be
enough, right and a lot, and

948
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,000
they kind of do that at first, and then it comes around again maxon

949
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:21,360
which it's like, holy shit,
that is gonna go off on that tour

950
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,840
they've got coming up, like that
is undeniable single. And there's, like

951
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:29,360
you were saying, Elliott, like
this sort of nineteen seventies occult rock thing,

952
01:01:29,719 --> 01:01:37,519
like it's not inherently like super like
hit factory stuff, but occasionally one

953
01:01:37,559 --> 01:01:39,800
of those bands will knock out just
a fucking like party song and you go,

954
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:44,400
yeah, that is a hit that
is irresistible. Who like what person

955
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,159
who hates fun right is not going
to have fun during that? And they've

956
01:01:47,199 --> 01:01:51,719
done it there and straight off the
bat that's three songs all a row there

957
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,239
that are all different feels that will
completely nail what they are and all have

958
01:01:55,480 --> 01:02:00,920
fucking mega like hooks that are you
know, gonna completely any live show they

959
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:05,159
do straight out the bat. When
they riff, it's not just like you

960
01:02:05,199 --> 01:02:07,480
know they've they've done that kind of
upbeat stoner biker riff on Mountain Throwne.

961
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,760
You get the really stately kind of
power on something like the ancient ways.

962
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:15,280
They obviously have fondness for all these
different sort of corners and bits of what

963
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:17,840
like doom metal and classic rock and
all these kind of things are they've not

964
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,800
just gone oh yeah, Electric Wizard
will do that like you know so many

965
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,519
have done over the years. One
for Sorrow turns up and it's like Cathedral

966
01:02:24,719 --> 01:02:28,800
have turned up. Like the guitar
tone is so heavy, like we're not

967
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,760
kissing the go go anymore. We
are like in a fucking like funeral mass.

968
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:37,800
It is crushing. The production on
it is like immense, like One

969
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,599
for So has like a real sense
of like grace and class in and amongst

970
01:02:40,679 --> 01:02:46,400
how fucking heavy that riff hits and
it's still melodically so strong when we how

971
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:50,239
it burst off in that chorus where
like, even when they're doing the the

972
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:54,119
classic Doom song at this point after
that said that ludicrous of opening trio of

973
01:02:54,280 --> 01:03:00,880
like fun songs, it's still so
melodically just impect all that. Even I'm

974
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:05,840
like fucking love Doom right now,
like Maxine Witch Queen and One for Sorrow

975
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:09,920
might be one of the biggest jumps
in vibe from song to song consecutively you

976
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,800
could find on like something that you
could seeably call like a stone or a

977
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,239
doo metal album. You know,
in god knows how many years, I

978
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,920
didn't think about that that until this
point. That's weird to have those two

979
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,920
songs aft to each other, but
they make it work. But it's just

980
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:25,360
that run of like each like I
say, each song this album, I

981
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:29,559
think you said about almost the entire
album, where each song does actually really

982
01:03:30,599 --> 01:03:34,679
justify its existence in being its own
distinct feeling its own distinct vibe, and

983
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,079
just nailing whatever what they set out
to do each time, and it never

984
01:03:37,119 --> 01:03:40,880
feels kind of just like it's eight
songs this album and each one is like

985
01:03:42,559 --> 01:03:45,360
totally justified and not feel like a
single filler album track. Yeah, there's

986
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:50,800
no redundancies on this record, every
single song kind of scratches in it that

987
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:52,800
this style of music should And One
for Sorrow, I mean, it might

988
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:57,719
be my favorite song on the record, and it's that huge climactic chorus and

989
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:01,440
the argento synth line to the end. Yea proper phantasm, doesn't it.

990
01:04:01,519 --> 01:04:05,239
It's great? Yeah. And then
like you know, this record isn't a

991
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:09,920
particularly sinister listen, Like the horror
elements are there, but it's more kind

992
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:15,199
of I think when they really lean
into it that six for the Devil,

993
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:19,440
the Devil himself on that song,
it's it goes hard and it's again like

994
01:04:19,559 --> 01:04:23,239
it's not something that I thought Green
Longhanded. I always thought they were kind

995
01:04:23,239 --> 01:04:27,039
of like a doom metal kind of
scrappy doo like loads of energy are not

996
01:04:27,119 --> 01:04:31,119
necessarily very dangerous, but they can
whip that out the bag moment's notice and

997
01:04:31,199 --> 01:04:34,840
it is still fun. And then
to go from that song in something like

998
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:41,880
the Song of the Stones, which
sounds like pentangle or whatever, and then

999
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,199
to pull that off and for it
to not feel, you know, like

1000
01:04:44,239 --> 01:04:48,639
they're trying their hand misguidedly at something
completely different, likes it all works.

1001
01:04:49,079 --> 01:04:53,039
There's a sense of kind of witchy
glee on this album, well, I

1002
01:04:53,039 --> 01:04:56,079
think the singer is really coming into
his own. I think the best moment

1003
01:04:56,119 --> 01:04:59,760
they had had prior to this was
the song Graveyard Sun from Black Harvest,

1004
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:01,840
which like it's kind of like grand
occult ballad, and he sold that song

1005
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,760
really well. Basically every song on
this is better than that one. But

1006
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:10,199
here that ability to without being like
an obvious powerhouse Ronnie James Deer type singer

1007
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,880
or anything, make those things fly
right. But as you say, he

1008
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:16,000
injects kind of character and a snarl
of conviction into it when it needs to

1009
01:05:16,039 --> 01:05:21,159
go kind of dark and impish.
There's one point no warning in Hunters in

1010
01:05:21,199 --> 01:05:27,000
the Sky. He just does like
a rob halford circa painkiller screech. But

1011
01:05:27,239 --> 01:05:30,800
then the kind of what you're saying, like the real moments where it leans

1012
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:36,320
into like like I said, he's
fucking lounging over a cauldron or something and

1013
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,840
you look at the man and you
go, you don't look like that,

1014
01:05:40,079 --> 01:05:42,880
right, Like you there's not much
about you that really conveys like, yeah,

1015
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,840
that is a genuine occult kind of
figure. But he's able to turn

1016
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:49,559
it on in the voice and the
playing the guitar solos when they're give Hi

1017
01:05:49,559 --> 01:05:53,679
the spotlight just as much so they
always like elevate the songs. The one

1018
01:05:53,719 --> 01:05:59,360
in ancient ways is like Brian fucking
May. There's so many Brian May kind

1019
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,920
of like big rocking like guitar shows, because it was like a real sense

1020
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:05,480
of like pomp and camp and theater
to all of this album. But it

1021
01:06:05,599 --> 01:06:09,599
never it never kind of undermines it. I mean some of the stones just

1022
01:06:09,639 --> 01:06:12,480
said that that's the most kind of
like around the cordron, and that's when

1023
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:15,760
they're going all in on that folk
thing where that not done right. That's

1024
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,440
where I always get turned off on
these sort of albums as I kind of

1025
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,599
perform. But even when, like
I say, I'm so immercy on at

1026
01:06:20,599 --> 01:06:24,960
that point, even when the flute
gets busted out on someone's stone or whatever

1027
01:06:25,039 --> 01:06:27,880
it is they're playing, Yeah,
like whether the women's is, I'm like,

1028
01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:30,639
fucking bring it on, because it's
all just another really well fort out

1029
01:06:30,679 --> 01:06:36,119
element and I'm just so invested by
that point because again, the melodies are

1030
01:06:36,159 --> 01:06:40,920
so strong. His character and vocal
does just make me believe, like again

1031
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:42,719
you say you don't look at me, he doesn't look it. But because

1032
01:06:42,719 --> 01:06:45,840
of what he can where he can
transfers the vocalist. I kind of I'm

1033
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,960
believing he's, you know, in
his little stone circle druid and everything.

1034
01:06:49,559 --> 01:06:51,880
I mean, some of the Stones
is just so wick a man, you're

1035
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:57,760
expecting britt Ekland to start pounding on
the wall going hey there. But like

1036
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,960
the secret thing on this album has
thought put in in terms of like not

1037
01:07:01,039 --> 01:07:03,440
in an elaborate concept kind of way, but just the way you look at

1038
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,480
like a nineteen seventies rock album and
there's a clear side A and a clear

1039
01:07:06,559 --> 01:07:10,920
side B and an ever flow between
tracks that don't just do the same thing.

1040
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:15,559
And Paranoid makes sense, Rainbow Rising
makes sense. This has that runner

1041
01:07:15,599 --> 01:07:16,639
songs we spoke about. It's broken
up by song of the Stones in the

1042
01:07:16,679 --> 01:07:21,000
middle. Oceans of Time is like
an immense, like proper album closer,

1043
01:07:21,119 --> 01:07:26,360
you know, like this yearning,
romantic, graceful piece of songwriting, which

1044
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:29,239
the first time I listened to that, I recognized the lyrics straight away and

1045
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:32,280
it's so funny. Well, it's
so funny that on their journey into a

1046
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:35,000
cult Albion record they've done a Dracula
song. So yeah, he went he

1047
01:07:35,039 --> 01:07:39,480
went to Whitby once he got a
boat put him in there. But the

1048
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:43,480
ending surge with that ah no,
you feel it. Meana a feel it

1049
01:07:43,559 --> 01:07:46,400
too. It's fucking fantastic. It
feels like it's got the kind of big

1050
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:50,760
swing for the fence's ambition of those
timeless classic rock type records and the way

1051
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:56,760
their big ending moments kind of approach
the you know, the the circumstances,

1052
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,320
the feels, and the tempos,
like we're saying, they flip wonderfully from

1053
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:00,559
song to song. Good at all
of them. There's not any one area

1054
01:08:00,599 --> 01:08:03,079
where that's an obvious weak patch.
You're not so good at the slow stuff

1055
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,800
or whatever. You know. I
said, Ancient ways is kind of more

1056
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:11,599
like that kind of mid paced theatrical
doom with guitars that like raw with that

1057
01:08:11,679 --> 01:08:14,960
production job guitar tone, stuff like
Hunters in the Sky more that kind of

1058
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:16,560
head banging feel even does like an
ooh at the start to bring it in,

1059
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,000
like punching the air like fucking less. There's a head bang. There's

1060
01:08:21,039 --> 01:08:24,399
nothing inst about it, is the
thing. I think that's one of the

1061
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,560
big determined the facts about what you
were saying, it about what kind of

1062
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:30,760
stuff like this feels like it is
for you know, doom heads and what

1063
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:35,359
stuff feels like it is kind of
rock star and that's what this feels like.

1064
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:41,359
It's loaded with ridiculous backing vocals,
those incredible like relishing the line like

1065
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:45,199
solos, enormous keyboards out the wazoo. Like we get loads of great albums

1066
01:08:45,239 --> 01:08:49,279
in a year that maybe excel more
specifically in a niche, right, like

1067
01:08:49,359 --> 01:08:51,720
if this thing appeals to you,
whatever, go for it. We've got

1068
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,800
some of them coming up at the
end of the show. But this is

1069
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:56,920
one of the albums this year that
feels like you just have to kind of

1070
01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:00,279
insist that everybody this thing checks it
out because it's in the grand scheme of

1071
01:09:00,319 --> 01:09:03,560
things. Still a small band,
right and they've written an incredible set of

1072
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,640
bangers that feel like they just have
such a great sense of widespread appeal.

1073
01:09:08,199 --> 01:09:11,800
This doesn't feel like a small British
band pointing out this album because again,

1074
01:09:12,119 --> 01:09:15,600
production wise, it sounds immaculate.
I can't knock the production. I mean,

1075
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:17,960
everything sounds sounds like money's been thrown
it, you know, yeah,

1076
01:09:18,039 --> 01:09:21,600
but it sounds heavy like again,
but it doesn't like sacrifice the melody in

1077
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:25,800
terms of having the guitar's crunch,
but it's not you know, the guitars

1078
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:29,520
aren't sanded down sound wet, so
it can have that poppier appeal. It

1079
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:31,880
just has every aspect. It's just
so perfectly in tuned and I'm just like,

1080
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,159
this feels like this, this should
be a big band doing this,

1081
01:09:35,239 --> 01:09:41,520
and I'm hoping that it does have
that crossover where people really start to latch

1082
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:45,199
on and get on get behind Green
Lung because it's just the quality, because

1083
01:09:45,199 --> 01:09:47,520
it nails all the stuff that you
want a record like this to nail.

1084
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:51,319
Because on one hand, it does
still have some of that sort of insular

1085
01:09:51,359 --> 01:09:56,600
britishness where like on Hunters in the
Sky the Lywick goes when you hear the

1086
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,960
horn blow above Kroc and Tour,
you'll know that you'll never escape from them

1087
01:10:00,039 --> 01:10:01,119
more. It's like, how are
you even from London? Like that is

1088
01:10:01,199 --> 01:10:05,560
the It's from Whitby to Whitechapel,
Like, yeah, you are like you

1089
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:10,239
formed in nineteen sixty eight. This
is this is not rock star behavior and

1090
01:10:10,239 --> 01:10:14,319
the slices. But then you know, moments later Oceans of Time, Well,

1091
01:10:14,359 --> 01:10:16,239
I was like this sounds more like
White Snake than Warning, Like it's

1092
01:10:16,279 --> 01:10:20,239
got kind of long way from Home
forlorn love song kind of still thrusts the

1093
01:10:20,279 --> 01:10:23,760
air. It's got the drama like
a glam tune, but it's kind of

1094
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:28,359
this big, lumbering doom song and
it's kind of got that. It's got

1095
01:10:28,399 --> 01:10:33,399
a populist quality that most occult rock
sort of doing stuff just doesn't have,

1096
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:35,760
and maybe, you know, does
it in turns out, maybe it's deliberately

1097
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:41,279
you know, alienating, but when
you can write songs of this quality,

1098
01:10:41,319 --> 01:10:44,560
you'd kind of be a fool not
to. Yeah, it's an album where

1099
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,239
you know, when you see these
choruses live, you're just gonna want to

1100
01:10:46,359 --> 01:10:49,199
throw your hands up in the air
in elation and belt along. It is

1101
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:56,199
as crowd pleasing as a seventies styled
occult do record about obscure British folk horror

1102
01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:00,560
feasibly could ever be right, and
the vibe is specific, but the song

1103
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:02,319
craft is beyond that, and that
I think is a really great thing when

1104
01:11:02,359 --> 01:11:04,560
bands can tap into that, and
that's why I think Green Lung have done

1105
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:08,319
here. So please do check it
out. It's called This Heathen Land.

1106
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:12,840
Our trip to hardcore this month takes
us to Dying Wish. Their second full

1107
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,960
length album is called Symptoms of Survival. Dying Wish went from a name who

1108
01:11:16,039 --> 01:11:18,439
are like kind of on people's lips
and a kind of all watch this space,

1109
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:23,760
they're coming kind of way to really
arriving in twenty twenty one with their

1110
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:27,399
debut full length Fragments of a Bitter
Memory. And I remember it arrived and

1111
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,640
I'd had my eyes on Dying Wish
for a couple of years, and I

1112
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:30,880
had to kind of recalibrate when my
head was up with them, because I

1113
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:36,760
was associating them with that sort of
like bruising modern hardcore bands like Knocked Loose,

1114
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:40,960
Year of the Knife, et cetera. I was not expecting the full

1115
01:11:41,039 --> 01:11:45,119
length package to be as nostalgic as
it was. It was such a throwback

1116
01:11:45,159 --> 01:11:47,199
to like early two thousands melodic metal
cores. It kind of threw me for

1117
01:11:47,279 --> 01:11:50,199
a loop a bit of firsth it
was so retro, but at that thing,

1118
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:55,279
it is exceptional, like the best
album in that particular kind of style

1119
01:11:55,399 --> 01:11:59,479
that we had probably had in you
know, a good old while. Yeah,

1120
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,119
I mean I was because it was. It was when Emma rocked up

1121
01:12:02,159 --> 01:12:05,279
on that not Loose track was the
first kind of like, oh, who

1122
01:12:05,399 --> 01:12:09,399
is this Who's this band? And
then Dying Wish and it was like those

1123
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:14,479
early EP's were more just nasty hardcore. And then when that DEBM came along

1124
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,000
and it was just two thousand and
four worship, I was like, I

1125
01:12:17,079 --> 01:12:20,079
fucking love it. Like that was
that was when that ranked super my interview

1126
01:12:20,119 --> 01:12:24,319
list because it was just doing a
thing that I'd been yearning for someone to

1127
01:12:24,399 --> 01:12:27,880
kind of tap back into at that
level of quality. Again, like you

1128
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,760
look at the the last couple of
Kills Struckles when they weren't at the level

1129
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,159
that Dying Wish were on that.
So I was so down for them doing

1130
01:12:33,239 --> 01:12:38,119
that nostalgic throwback metal core to that
level. Yeah, I think it.

1131
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,840
The proof of was the fact that
it had a lot more staying power with

1132
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:44,319
its songs than a lot of hardcore
we cover. Like there are tons of

1133
01:12:44,359 --> 01:12:45,560
tracks on that album. Fragments are
a bit of memories. One like that

1134
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:53,279
stuck with me in the moshcore moments
where they know the fucking the bullet and

1135
01:12:53,279 --> 01:12:57,239
all that kind of shit stuff that
you are slathering to see life because you

1136
01:12:57,279 --> 01:12:59,560
want to go after those moments.
And this one's turned up and I feel

1137
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:00,479
like almost like of a Cruel task
Master, Because now I'm like, this

1138
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,920
doesn't sound quite like the last one. But if the top tier of modern

1139
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:08,520
hardcore bands for me is like Code
Orange, you know, Turnstile, vain

1140
01:13:09,199 --> 01:13:11,520
not loose, I would have to
watching Tongue sort of in that kind of

1141
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:16,079
company. The next tier of like
Jesus Peace Scowl currently Year of the Knife,

1142
01:13:16,399 --> 01:13:19,119
Dying Wish I would have firmly in
there. I really like Dying Wish.

1143
01:13:20,119 --> 01:13:24,199
I mean, I love Dying Wish. I would not quite on your

1144
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:28,199
your Code Orange Turnstile level, but
they are front runners in the sort of

1145
01:13:28,239 --> 01:13:31,279
the rest of the pack. I
this is now, and that just kind

1146
01:13:31,279 --> 01:13:34,039
of goes, oh, let's just
do a thing I like for thirty two

1147
01:13:34,079 --> 01:13:38,560
minutes and just solve the good feelings
in my brain and just make me happy,

1148
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:43,119
and like it's so tuned to just
hit a spot for me where I'm

1149
01:13:43,199 --> 01:13:45,960
like fucking love everything about this again. Yeah, what I mean though about

1150
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:51,319
being not quite like the last one
is the actual throwback element feels more like

1151
01:13:53,319 --> 01:13:56,520
specific moments in this, I guess, whereas the last album is like everything

1152
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,960
about how it sounded was almost like
you could have dug it up from two

1153
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:02,640
thousand and two and something like trust
Kill or something. This feels maybe it's

1154
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:06,159
because it's higher budget and it feels
more modern, but like specific ideas and

1155
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:12,359
songs really draw heavily from that kind
of past. But perhaps it is the

1156
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:15,079
right move actually to kind of then
update I guess what they're doing a little

1157
01:14:15,079 --> 01:14:16,640
bit. Yeah, I think that's
fair because I think there's kind of like

1158
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:20,720
spin halfway, Like half songs dom
are just two minutes of just like pure

1159
01:14:21,399 --> 01:14:25,840
fire and rifts and anger, and
then the other half is that just like

1160
01:14:27,159 --> 01:14:30,159
end of Heartache, you know,
good out of a minute. Yeah,

1161
01:14:30,159 --> 01:14:33,600
because I must have listened to that
first record when it came out, but

1162
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,800
I don't. I don't really remember
it. And you're saying that you put

1163
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:41,159
them in with hardcore bands like Code
Orange vein that sort of thing. After

1164
01:14:41,239 --> 01:14:46,239
listening to this, that seems like
a slightly odd fit to me somehow.

1165
01:14:46,239 --> 01:14:50,359
I don't know it's because it's so
steeped in the kind of nostalgia nostalgia throwback

1166
01:14:50,359 --> 01:14:55,600
element that feels weird to put them
in with contemporary bands. But for me,

1167
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,640
but this, I mean, this
whole record. They didn't really need

1168
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:02,800
to bother with press releases for because
on site you know exactly what it is.

1169
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:06,399
It's like it's gonna be Poisoning the
well early kill switch, that sort

1170
01:15:06,399 --> 01:15:11,960
of suicide silence looking logo, the
Shadows for looking album cover, the poison

1171
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:15,800
the Wells sounding title. It's like
there's there's no element of obfuscating what it

1172
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,600
is that they do, even like
you look at the track list and it's

1173
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:21,680
like, I can't guarantee that Kiss
of Judas isn't an early as I Lay

1174
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:25,439
Dying song, do you know what
I mean? It's like the whole thing

1175
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:30,399
is kind of wilfully derivative, So
it feels weird to me put them in

1176
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:35,399
with those bands, but I like
the thing that they do, so in

1177
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:40,720
terms of quality, yeah, yeah, it could be. Yeah, I

1178
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,479
think you know. It starts with
the title track and that beat down groove

1179
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,359
is just so obnoxious, and I
think it's a production in terms there's a

1180
01:15:45,359 --> 01:15:49,439
real tightness in the chugs and that
like ending breakdown it has when those verses

1181
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:53,720
hits. Obviously it's based in what
you're saying, but in comparably to the

1182
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,720
last one, even for almost like
kind of ghost inside Dish that they're kind

1183
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:58,840
of most heavy, like it feels
a little bit more twenty tens and on

1184
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,680
in terms of how it sounds.
You know, watch My Promises Die right

1185
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:06,159
after fucking hell of a burly stomp
on that like super powerful and thick for

1186
01:16:06,319 --> 01:16:10,000
to day right, Like it doesn't
feel quite so much like a like a

1187
01:16:10,079 --> 01:16:13,560
lost album, right I think,
like, what's my promise di is?

1188
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:15,760
Whe where when that clean part hits, it still sounds like it could be

1189
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:23,520
That's what I'm saying specific ideas.
And there's like at the Gates riff where

1190
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:26,039
she shouts go and it's like,
yeah, there we go with doing that

1191
01:16:26,159 --> 01:16:30,000
bit, so I shually mean where
like it's it's less the whole thing.

1192
01:16:30,039 --> 01:16:32,680
But that song to me still just
sounds like I guess it is doing the

1193
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:36,359
four thing but trying to blend with
a bit more modern sensibilities rather than just

1194
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:41,000
doing pure throwback. That's what I
feel. I guess I'm trying to say

1195
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:44,159
that the approach on this album kind
of is and I feel like they're kind

1196
01:16:44,199 --> 01:16:46,960
of they're ekeing towards landing that maybe
I think. You know, Emma is

1197
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:53,479
one of the most charismatic personalities in
contemporary hardcore, just through her screams right,

1198
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,680
which is a hard thing to do. Most of them sound the same,

1199
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:58,399
right, but like when she's snarling
at the upper end of her range

1200
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:02,800
on this, it's brilliant. It
takes a I think it's it's tongues of

1201
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,640
lead where she goes for almost this
kind of like black metal register on like

1202
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,560
one of the blasts, and it's
like super sick. And then she drops

1203
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:12,399
a bitch in the mosh caol on
Kids of Junus, which is so nowhere.

1204
01:17:12,399 --> 01:17:15,279
It's funny, but it takes a
moment that at the Gates Sea,

1205
01:17:15,319 --> 01:17:17,119
you know, Imperium in the middle
circle a bit type riff. It takes

1206
01:17:17,159 --> 01:17:19,079
a moment that to come in.
You know, it's like you're halfway through

1207
01:17:19,119 --> 01:17:23,439
the second song. It's almost like
they've beaten you with kind of you know,

1208
01:17:25,119 --> 01:17:29,560
some more modern hardcore for a few
minutes, and then they go tempost

1209
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:34,079
witch, we've dialed back the clock. Well watch my promised story when that

1210
01:17:34,119 --> 01:17:36,319
starts. And I thought it sounds
like August Burn's red with a bit of

1211
01:17:36,319 --> 01:17:41,119
attitude, like and I don't know
if that's the sort of Verra maybe you're

1212
01:17:41,119 --> 01:17:43,960
thinking of as well. I mean
stuff like starved. To me, that's

1213
01:17:44,039 --> 01:17:48,880
pure early darkest hour. Pray for
Me is basically three beatdowns put together to

1214
01:17:49,039 --> 01:17:55,039
make a song. Pray for Me
is when they go all dying fetus like

1215
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:59,760
they're doing quite that so heavy,
like it's legit death metal, you know,

1216
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:03,159
slam come hardcore riff, just how
low end is yeah, no,

1217
01:18:03,319 --> 01:18:06,279
Pray for Me, like when they
go on that just like pure most low

1218
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:10,319
end, but then frying like pinch
harmonics and all that too, and have

1219
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:14,199
the fucking die my Enemy mosh call
like all that stuff is like, yeah,

1220
01:18:14,239 --> 01:18:17,079
we're just gonna go fucking hard this
time, and it's like, oh

1221
01:18:17,159 --> 01:18:19,239
yeah, cool, I just want
to, you know, swing your fist

1222
01:18:19,279 --> 01:18:25,239
round to that. I just have
how fucking like corstic and just like genuinely

1223
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:29,920
pissed off sounding memories of course,
like ninety percent of this record, and

1224
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:33,079
at any moment when she's not singing
basically yeah, I think it's when,

1225
01:18:33,239 --> 01:18:36,720
like I said that point halfway through
watch My Promise die, when that kind

1226
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:41,479
of more two thousands metally riff comes
in. I love that you because it

1227
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:45,039
brings you know, that more openly
metal approach to like thrash and speed and

1228
01:18:45,159 --> 01:18:48,560
melody. That's very my sensibilities,
right, And those things are a throwback,

1229
01:18:49,079 --> 01:18:51,159
but it was a brilliant trick,
you know, And it's great to

1230
01:18:51,199 --> 01:18:55,279
hear riffs like that being done when
they're not everywhere anymore. And I think

1231
01:18:55,319 --> 01:18:57,920
it gives dying wish in those moments, like this sense of kind of light

1232
01:18:58,199 --> 01:19:02,199
and life that they can year into
away from the really heavy stuff where they're

1233
01:19:02,199 --> 01:19:05,239
still scathingly intense with it. But
it kind of it does open up the

1234
01:19:05,279 --> 01:19:08,720
dynamics of what those kind of songs
can do that maybe some of their you

1235
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:12,039
know, more kind of straight ahead
kind of peers don't quite do. And

1236
01:19:12,159 --> 01:19:14,479
like you know, Slaught the Soul
is one of my favorite things ever.

1237
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,159
The riff and kiss of Judas is
meant for me. But they do this

1238
01:19:17,279 --> 01:19:21,119
thing where as a hardcore band,
they have an emphasis on brevity, and

1239
01:19:21,199 --> 01:19:24,760
I think part of this album what
you're saying, kind of the split sam

1240
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,479
on this album. Yeah, it's
like part of this album are almost like

1241
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,439
a sweet because Starved and Pray for
Me, which you mentioned, almost don't

1242
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:33,600
feel like they could be two distinct
songs. It feels like they see straight

1243
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,560
intead opening from Pray for Me.
I totally see what you mean. It's

1244
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:42,279
it's so smoothly and collectively it's still
be like four minutes long, right,

1245
01:19:42,359 --> 01:19:46,439
like those things put together. But
then you go into Part to Your Grave

1246
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:50,239
and paved in Sorry, it's like
another separate see, which is like the

1247
01:19:50,279 --> 01:19:55,399
big melodic bit where you assume you
mean when you have these bruisings of songs,

1248
01:19:55,720 --> 01:20:00,000
there's an emphasis on that, that
brevity in me that sometimes songs almost

1249
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,039
feel like little kind of sketches sort
of join together in little parts, and

1250
01:20:03,119 --> 01:20:05,560
there is a clear divide I think
on this album between those moments where they

1251
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:10,800
do that and when they go for
something kind of more fleshed out, not

1252
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,800
just like two minutes of mosh,
and I think it's you know, at

1253
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:17,000
the moment, it's almost like some
parts of like slightly outweighing the others because

1254
01:20:17,039 --> 01:20:19,960
you have these tiny little bits,
and then the last track is like the

1255
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:24,680
obvious outweyer of the rest. In
terms of like scope, I think Part

1256
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:28,760
of Your Grave really strong song like
fits a bunch of different ideas and sections

1257
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:30,600
in the way it manages to move
from kind of like legit blast beat to

1258
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:34,960
the melodic vocal is impressively smooth and
natural. Like those things they have managed

1259
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:39,479
to work out how to put those
things together. And I guess just as

1260
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:42,079
they make you wait for the guitar
melody, they make you wait a little

1261
01:20:42,119 --> 01:20:45,239
bit for any vocal melody. Like
it's the same kind of track where it's

1262
01:20:45,279 --> 01:20:47,079
like you're settled into the album at
that point and they go, oh,

1263
01:20:47,159 --> 01:20:49,680
there is this other thing here.
Partial great, feels like there's sort of

1264
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:53,479
moment with the album really steps up
for me after those first few songs.

1265
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:56,880
Again, I just love this from
start to finish. But when they find

1266
01:20:56,920 --> 01:21:00,159
those sort of extra pockets they can
tap into it, just it just I

1267
01:21:00,199 --> 01:21:04,199
guess because that is so aggress somewise, it means those most they do switch

1268
01:21:04,319 --> 01:21:08,960
up into the melody, it makes
them stand up more rather than just shoehorning

1269
01:21:09,039 --> 01:21:12,960
in a chorus into every song and
kind of just like so it just feels

1270
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:15,439
like, okay, we're just doing
that every time when they when they let

1271
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:17,760
the melody ring out or they change
the tempo or anything like that, they

1272
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:23,000
put off in a way that actually
feels like it's enhancing the listening experience and

1273
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:27,439
taking you taking a song forward rather
than just being done for the sake of

1274
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:30,119
it. Yeah, as like a
thirty minute odd listening experience of the overall

1275
01:21:30,119 --> 01:21:32,760
record. They've clearly organized in such
where it's gonna have these kind of ebbs

1276
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:36,439
and flows of like for a couple
tracks here you're going to be fucking going

1277
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:40,279
just full throttle, then this track
we're gonna slow. Then you have more

1278
01:21:40,279 --> 01:21:42,640
melody, more room to breathe or
whatever I think it means. Again,

1279
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:44,920
when you look back, you're what
was that song, you know, compared?

1280
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:46,319
Maybe I think I'm compared to the
last where it was like again Innate

1281
01:21:46,399 --> 01:21:48,439
First, Prab, it's a bit
of memory. These are all like fucking

1282
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:53,079
meg even when they are like Innate
First is almost all fucking brutality, But

1283
01:21:53,159 --> 01:21:56,600
they are like super fucking memorable in
their own right. But this has almost

1284
01:21:56,680 --> 01:22:00,520
more focus on the kind of the
journey overalls the record. I think we

1285
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:03,319
were joking a little bit Earliert that
they're bringing kind of fly Leaf back a

1286
01:22:03,319 --> 01:22:05,800
little bit. We're kind of the
two thousands of nostalgia in the Melodi vocal.

1287
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:09,760
But I do think has a really
great voice and they would be a

1288
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:13,680
lesser band without the range that that
melody brings. Well. Yeah, and

1289
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:18,039
the thing that surprises me is the
song where that really flies is fly leafs

1290
01:22:18,039 --> 01:22:24,720
If You Will is the sole real
deviation in style I think in paved in

1291
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:28,000
Sorrow, Yeah, that's the Firth
attempt at like a full on clean ballad.

1292
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:31,640
Yeah, and it's probably my favorite
song on the album, which really

1293
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:33,680
is weird because when we were talking
about the single and it was like,

1294
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:36,520
oh, you know, I'm not
that keen on the fly leafy bit,

1295
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:42,239
but this is like fly Leaf if
they were good, because instrumental ruined me.

1296
01:22:42,319 --> 01:22:49,119
Elliot, no sacred cows here,
like I mean, instruments, big,

1297
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:54,319
sort of self tizled deaftones vibe I
think, and like you said,

1298
01:22:54,319 --> 01:22:57,279
a really strong lead vocal performance.
And as much as I say, it

1299
01:22:57,319 --> 01:23:00,920
sounds like fly Leaf, the kind
of balance of weight and delicacy. It's

1300
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:06,840
not that dissimilar to hum but a
bit more Mid two thousand's MTV and I

1301
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:11,720
feel bad saying the song that sounds
basically nothing like the others is my favorite.

1302
01:23:12,239 --> 01:23:15,920
But for me, maybe it's its
position in the record as well,

1303
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:18,159
because you know, talking about this, all the talk about sequencing. For

1304
01:23:18,279 --> 01:23:23,640
me, the reason why thirty two
minutes of this is basically perfect because it

1305
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:27,560
kind of feels like two EPs with
a really meaty insalute. In the middle,

1306
01:23:28,359 --> 01:23:33,039
we get five songs of spiky,
metallic hardcore, this song, which

1307
01:23:33,119 --> 01:23:36,199
is my favorite, and then you're
kind of refreshed for the next section.

1308
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:40,720
And I don't know, maybe if
there were more songs like this, if

1309
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:44,439
it was sequence differently, it wouldn't
be my favorite. But on repeated listens,

1310
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:46,199
this was always the song that I
was looking forward to the most,

1311
01:23:46,239 --> 01:23:49,720
which I don't think i'd say about
many of these hardcore bands who go melodic.

1312
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:54,239
I mean, I think it being
positioned like right in the middle of

1313
01:23:54,279 --> 01:23:57,159
the record does mean it is sure
an easy one to stand out. It

1314
01:23:57,239 --> 01:24:00,920
just says it does separate things out. I think it's well though, because

1315
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:03,600
when they're when they're doing this or
of their emotional ballad, it still never

1316
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:08,880
feels too wet and sappy. Emma's
still got loads of like parent conviction and

1317
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,600
her vocals, and when it does
kind of like break at the end and

1318
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:14,840
you still get that final minute where
they're allowed to go heavy with it,

1319
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:18,319
it just means it's it's a ballad
that doesn't feel again like it's trying to

1320
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:19,880
just be like, oh, we
have to, you know, do the

1321
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:25,119
nice song. Now it's still like
a ballad by way of what Dyane Wish

1322
01:24:25,159 --> 01:24:28,880
are looking at as their core sound. Yeah, I think it's actually my

1323
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:32,560
least favorite song on this record,
and it's because it's it's a decent first

1324
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,960
attempt at that thing. But I
think it's something they can surely do a

1325
01:24:36,039 --> 01:24:39,960
lot lot better with in I agree
it can be improved on, but I

1326
01:24:40,039 --> 01:24:42,319
think it's a really good Like I'm
not saying it's a bad song. I

1327
01:24:42,319 --> 01:24:45,399
think it's it's a you know,
I'm glad it's on this record. The

1328
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:47,399
last thirty seconds in particular, when
it really goes like they are, that's

1329
01:24:47,399 --> 01:24:50,479
a brilliant thirty seconds right there.
I think it's it's a little more passive

1330
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:55,000
in getting there than they I hope, can really really nail. You know,

1331
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,600
it is very funny when that just
transitions. It's just absolute filth forgetting

1332
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:00,479
on the very next track. But
it's stuff like that that I think they're

1333
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:05,279
building at the moment rather than being
completely you know, a finished article torn

1334
01:25:05,279 --> 01:25:09,199
from your silhouette. We had like
way towards the beginning of this year.

1335
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:13,600
For me, it's like that's the
biggest immediate burst of kind of light and

1336
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:15,920
energy on the album. What they
have in that song is brilliant, right,

1337
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:19,560
Like the ingredients are there the immediately
of that first riff of sensation or

1338
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:23,319
the melody that arrives as top draw, but they've done it in this really

1339
01:25:23,359 --> 01:25:27,640
bite sized package. And I can
remember saying like, Rosa Sharon is brilliant

1340
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:31,720
for the first two minutes, but
it doesn't get transcendentally brilliant until the bridge

1341
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:35,279
and the outro, right, And
every time that song arrives in this record,

1342
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:39,079
it's electric, and then it's gone
really quickly, and I want to

1343
01:25:39,119 --> 01:25:42,720
see them get more out of those
moments. And then on something like that

1344
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:45,119
ballad track that you know they have
sort of dedicate a little bit more time

1345
01:25:45,199 --> 01:25:47,960
to I guess keep the pulse of
it really alive the whole way through,

1346
01:25:48,159 --> 01:25:50,399
and they don't have to abandon the
violent shocks to do that, because that's

1347
01:25:50,399 --> 01:25:54,479
part of who they are as well. I think it's Kinks like that to

1348
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,000
iron out, where this is a
band who had a really great debut.

1349
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:00,720
There is a lot of promise in
here of how they can and keep pushing

1350
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:02,800
it and get more out of it
and not just be pigeonholed. Has that

1351
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:06,239
band who sound like two thousand and
two Trustkill Records. Right, it's a

1352
01:26:06,319 --> 01:26:11,399
strong album. I think the fact
that I am ultimately hoping to end up

1353
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:15,439
viewing it as kind of a transitionary
album between them reaching even higher heights should

1354
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:17,920
be a positive thing. Yeah,
I see where you're coming from with that,

1355
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:21,920
I think for me because I kind
of agree, but because I'm just

1356
01:26:23,039 --> 01:26:27,800
so attuned to like this thing.
And again, in a year where metalcore

1357
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:30,720
has not exactly like more than a
year, you know, metalcore has been

1358
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:33,680
in the shitter for quite a while
in terms of like what most bands are

1359
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:35,760
doing. So when I get a
Medicore record, that does just make me

1360
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:40,079
go, ah, this is how
it should be. Medical bands, please

1361
01:26:40,119 --> 01:26:45,439
make your album sound like this,
Like have your guitar tone that actually sounds

1362
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:48,439
violent and dangerous when you're doing the
clean bits. Don't process it to shit.

1363
01:26:49,239 --> 01:26:54,279
So I'm so just like, I'll
just relish every second of this,

1364
01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:57,279
like thirty two minutes and again the
amount of times I've finished it, and

1365
01:26:57,319 --> 01:26:59,880
then just hit player on it straight
again because I'm just like, excise me

1366
01:27:00,119 --> 01:27:03,760
a fix of that, because it's
so just punching to the point I can

1367
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:08,920
totally see where're coming from and I
agree. I think if they can further

1368
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:13,880
improve on the the the flashes of
like melodic brilliance on this even more than

1369
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:16,439
I think Album Free could be where
they really hit it. But I'm still

1370
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:21,840
totally just loving every second of this. Yeah. Next album, it's from

1371
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:27,319
a band called No Bro. It
is the quite wonderfully titled Set Your Pussy

1372
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:30,920
Free. This band No Bro.
They are Canadian. I think I may

1373
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:34,000
have mentioned them briefly before because I
saw this band opening for Pup last year.

1374
01:27:34,039 --> 01:27:36,800
I think it was and that's not
necessarily a show where for me and

1375
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:41,000
my taste, right, I'm going
to walk in and I'm guaranteed to be

1376
01:27:41,039 --> 01:27:44,840
particularly enamored by the support bill,
Right, But these guys were playing as

1377
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:47,560
I walked into the room, and
within seconds I was just so endeared by

1378
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:50,800
their energy. There's like five or
six women on stage, one of whom

1379
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:55,960
has like a massive setup of bongos
around them and she's just fucking hammering away

1380
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:59,920
on them and they're whizzing through like
these little ditty kind of ramones, runaway

1381
01:28:00,199 --> 01:28:02,319
type songs, and they were so
fun live. And I checked out this

1382
01:28:02,359 --> 01:28:05,680
record that they had at the time, which was the also brilliantly titled Live

1383
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:11,039
Your Truth threadso Gnah, and it
has one killer track on it called Eat

1384
01:28:11,079 --> 01:28:13,159
Sleigh shardon A, which will just
go around in your head like all the

1385
01:28:13,199 --> 01:28:15,239
ones on this album do, but
maybe overall didn't quite stick with me as

1386
01:28:15,319 --> 01:28:20,760
much as there kind of live energy
did. This record feels exactly like you

1387
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:26,800
want a band like this to feel. This record is such a fucking party.

1388
01:28:27,119 --> 01:28:30,880
I challenge everybody to not smile when
you listen to this record. I

1389
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,279
mean, I'm completely on the same
page with you on this one. I

1390
01:28:33,359 --> 01:28:36,840
love seeing them live. I'm you
know, very in tuned to enjoy this

1391
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:43,079
sort of thing anyway. And this
album is just fizzy and just bubbly and

1392
01:28:43,159 --> 01:28:46,279
infectious, joyful whatever you want to
throw it it like. It is like

1393
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:49,359
the moment hit play on it and
I'm getting that little handclap and I'm like

1394
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:54,760
again, it's it's immediately sort of
speaking my language of like, oh yeah,

1395
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:59,720
this is the kind of fun ramonesy
punk, pop, punk, garage

1396
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:01,479
rock, every kind of like bit
they want to go down on it.

1397
01:29:02,279 --> 01:29:08,920
It's just a blast. Will start
to finish. Oh no, don't do.

1398
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:12,800
Something you said earlier made me think, is this going to be about

1399
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:15,520
no brow could he not think this
record is just like an absolute bag of

1400
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:20,560
joy. I think it's a mixed
bag. I'll say it like that because

1401
01:29:21,039 --> 01:29:24,800
there's stuff that you're saying that I
go, yes, yes, one,

1402
01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:32,159
yes. There are some issues with
it where they might be completely distinct and

1403
01:29:32,319 --> 01:29:36,079
unique to me, but maybe we
can come to those later, because I

1404
01:29:36,119 --> 01:29:40,199
think there was a lot to like
about this. I mean, I saw

1405
01:29:40,239 --> 01:29:43,000
with the good stuff, they can
write a really catchy hook. I will

1406
01:29:43,039 --> 01:29:46,680
say that even after listening to this
record once. When I first heard it,

1407
01:29:48,199 --> 01:29:51,159
there were hooks immediately in my head, like I don't want to be

1408
01:29:51,239 --> 01:29:56,239
on the internet. Let's get out
to hear Cashing on my cachet really fun,

1409
01:29:56,319 --> 01:30:00,720
all of them just they have that
phizy energy you were talking about,

1410
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:02,520
like and particularly that I don't want
to be on the internet. On Delete,

1411
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:06,520
Delete Delete. It's like a Descendant
song, but it's less Revenge of

1412
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:11,680
the Nerds are more book smart and
that's great, like let's go out here

1413
01:30:12,119 --> 01:30:15,000
again that's been stuck in my head. Not really simple, but just great.

1414
01:30:15,119 --> 01:30:18,640
And yeah, cash on on My
Cashing reminds me of Sleigh Bells.

1415
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:23,319
It's kind of broken out of tune, woes over the top, and it's

1416
01:30:23,359 --> 01:30:26,720
just great. It's probably my favorite
song on the record. And you know,

1417
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:28,960
that cash out line is fun.
I just like, there are certainly

1418
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:31,439
moments on this record I go,
yes, I totally see what the I

1419
01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:33,920
feel bad that I've come in and
said this all at the top. I

1420
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:38,000
feel maybe we should come back to
some of the things I'm about to say.

1421
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:40,479
Yeah. Well, I mean I
will open up just saying, like

1422
01:30:41,119 --> 01:30:43,640
again, I'm the one who brought
this record forward, right, And I

1423
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:46,279
feel like that should say something because
I feel like stuff like this that is

1424
01:30:46,359 --> 01:30:53,119
just super fun, endearing, no
bullshit, no trends, DIY punk rock

1425
01:30:53,199 --> 01:30:56,600
music like this. It's kind of
TNM Hallmark right, stuff like this,

1426
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:59,760
you know, it's kind of light
power pop or like punk or like pub

1427
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:02,159
rock, whatever it may be.
There's not always actually the largest supply of

1428
01:31:02,199 --> 01:31:05,239
those records that are really fucking good
and that will stick around in your memory

1429
01:31:05,399 --> 01:31:11,319
for very long. Realistically, I
only genuinely like maybe one or two records

1430
01:31:11,399 --> 01:31:14,239
like this a year. There are
things that we cover that I know a

1431
01:31:14,319 --> 01:31:15,600
lot of you guys like, and
a lot of the you know, you

1432
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:18,000
know, the audience vibe with or
whatever, and that's cool and we cover

1433
01:31:18,119 --> 01:31:20,720
it, but for me, they
kind of exit my brain immediately. I

1434
01:31:21,039 --> 01:31:25,680
really I kind of love this record. It is so sticky and just so

1435
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:29,399
just like shit eating, grin inducing. And that's why I'm so keen to

1436
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:31,720
be like everybody who loves this.
Like fucking hell, I don't even know

1437
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:33,640
if it's my favorite song on it, but I have had in my head

1438
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:42,119
for weeks that where my girl's that
were my girl that because that's not my

1439
01:31:42,239 --> 01:31:46,319
vocal age, but my god,
it's so infectious. It is the most

1440
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:50,520
most fun. It's a bit like
when the self titled peppew record came out,

1441
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:53,840
and I haven't really cared for anything
that band have done since they went

1442
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:56,359
kind of more in the heartland the
direction. But that album that they had

1443
01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:59,920
with the kid in the cool song
glasses on the Bike on the front,

1444
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:03,800
and there was all these like daft
minute and a half bangers about skateboarding and

1445
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:08,359
ordering gas and stuff. Yeah,
and that those songs have lived in my

1446
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:12,560
memory so much longer than they fucking
should write like a minute a half song

1447
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:16,079
about ordering a pizza, But I
fucking it's ingrained in there. This is

1448
01:32:16,159 --> 01:32:19,000
like more fleshed out than all though
it's got all this extra stuff and extra

1449
01:32:19,039 --> 01:32:23,159
flavors in there. Obviously very distinctly
feminine as well, but in the same

1450
01:32:23,199 --> 01:32:26,159
way, I am going to be
able to just recall songs and hooks to

1451
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:30,640
mind from this for fucking ever,
I think, I mean, just let's

1452
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:33,640
do drugs, drugs, drugs,
drugs, drugs, drugs. The cover

1453
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:40,239
art is a thing of beauty.
It perfectly contents. You mentioned the opening

1454
01:32:40,319 --> 01:32:43,239
title track for me, like that
might be my favorite song with this because

1455
01:32:43,239 --> 01:32:46,800
it's this legit, snarling kind of
riff that's cool, but they complete it

1456
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:50,960
with those claps, right and then
like cheerleader chanting spelling their name, and

1457
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:56,359
it is on this kind of you
know, bratty runaways greaser song or something.

1458
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:59,920
But the best thing about that song
the chorus backing vocal, right,

1459
01:33:00,159 --> 01:33:03,399
because you could so easily have just
had that main vocal, but that fucking

1460
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:10,039
doctor Roxo rocker roll Cloud said.
The free so funny, and I love

1461
01:33:10,119 --> 01:33:12,880
that it's there like they've obviously meant
this as like this kind of big like

1462
01:33:13,159 --> 01:33:15,960
motto for life, the calling card
anthem, and for me, they fucking

1463
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:18,399
smash it well for me again.
This whole album is all about just you

1464
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:23,039
know, liberation and just kind of
like that's what the cover is, yeah

1465
01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:27,199
exactly, And so starting with that
that's freend like not giving a fuck,

1466
01:33:27,279 --> 01:33:30,640
like they'll do that like they put
your right hand in your left every put

1467
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:32,439
your hand up left on two and
then and then just when you get that

1468
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:38,319
peree backing vocal, it's all so
knowingly a bit silly, but it's kind

1469
01:33:38,319 --> 01:33:42,079
of like fuck it, have fun, don't worry, like you'll be fine,

1470
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:45,920
yeahs free exactly that the backing vocal
at the end of Cash and on

1471
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:47,399
My Cachet is just going like ah, kind of at the end. And

1472
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:50,880
they filled in a lot of these
gaps on this with its like ridiculous extra

1473
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:54,479
shit, And every time you cap
something like that in the mix, it

1474
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:57,239
makes you giggle. It makes me
at least enjoy the song, like even

1475
01:33:57,359 --> 01:34:00,439
more like the garage rock. Then
they have on top of the punk,

1476
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:03,760
like the sauntering insistence in a song, like you get to that second track

1477
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:05,560
and you go, oh what they
call this, Oh yeah, let's do

1478
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:12,279
drugs might as well, and then
it's just so carries itself with just such

1479
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:16,640
a like they've obviously had such a
ridiculous time recording this, Like you can

1480
01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:21,960
tell they are having so much fun
the chorus and nobody knows with the baby

1481
01:34:23,239 --> 01:34:26,439
kind of back and forth like just
blowing the roof off the place. It

1482
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:30,319
often has this like rock and roll
slamming piano part throughout a whole song,

1483
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:34,239
extra like garage kind of dance percussion. A song like AI sex Spot starts

1484
01:34:34,239 --> 01:34:36,960
all these like hand drums and stuff. It's just like so much of this

1485
01:34:38,079 --> 01:34:40,840
is made for kind of doing fucking
like snorkel diving on the dance floor,

1486
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:45,119
and it's just so good completely like
all of that like do whatever you fucking

1487
01:34:45,119 --> 01:34:47,960
feel like any moment, like when
you've got fucking I don't feel like it,

1488
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:51,279
which is kind of like just rambling
around for like the verses and then

1489
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:57,840
the release and that the way they
go from that like slacker drifter spoken word

1490
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:02,720
thing too, you know what it's
Yeah, it's ridiculous, just like belt

1491
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:06,000
it out. And I think that's
it is everything about this films that they've

1492
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:09,640
had fun making it as much as
it's so much fun to listen to,

1493
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:11,479
and some of you you get like, oh, you know, it sounds

1494
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:14,279
that they had fun making. It
can be a bit of a backhanded compliment

1495
01:35:14,359 --> 01:35:16,199
for like, well, they're enjoying
it, but it's a bit listening.

1496
01:35:16,279 --> 01:35:19,680
I'm like, no, they're fun. They're having translates straight to me.

1497
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:24,199
When they're having fun with this,
I'm having just as much fun. Elliott,

1498
01:35:24,399 --> 01:35:27,640
what do you? What are your
I guess your your hang ups with

1499
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:30,279
this record? What about this?
Is it the ridiculous ship that I clearly

1500
01:35:30,319 --> 01:35:31,520
think is amazing? No, no, no, not at all, Like

1501
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:36,720
that's that's not the thing that irks
me. Again, I kind of said

1502
01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:40,399
this earlier, but I'm conscious that
some of the things I'm going to complain

1503
01:35:40,399 --> 01:35:44,600
about are distinct to me and won't
resonate with other people that hear this record.

1504
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:48,199
I just for me sort of point
one, and this isn't their fault.

1505
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:54,239
I just don't like that kind of
garagee punk sound. Okay, that's

1506
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:58,960
that is a kind of a deal
breaker. Yeah, it's it's kind of

1507
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:01,920
got that whole fucking rocking, but
you know, not too hard. Like

1508
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:04,680
it's the kind of like the band
in Scott Pilgrim. It kind of sounds

1509
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:08,439
a bit like that, And it's
why I never got on with the White

1510
01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:12,279
Stripe then being a Canadian garage rock
band Scott Pilgrim was is one of those

1511
01:36:12,279 --> 01:36:14,199
things that was playing in the back
of my mind when I was listened to

1512
01:36:14,239 --> 01:36:15,199
this is like, yeah, this
could be on the Scott Pilgrim soundtrack.

1513
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:18,840
Yeah, and you know, for
some people that would be great, but

1514
01:36:19,079 --> 01:36:23,840
it's like, it's the reason I
never got into Death from Above or the

1515
01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:27,760
White Stripes, who are like the
kings of that sort of thing. And

1516
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:30,840
I don't know if it's never done
anything for me. It kind of feels

1517
01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:32,920
a bit like a low fat cheesecake
or something where it's like, listen if

1518
01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:39,680
I want cheesecake, I don't want
to. And I kept thinking about,

1519
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:42,000
like, you know, like like
that Pony record earlier year that people fucking

1520
01:36:42,159 --> 01:36:43,840
loved, and for me, again, that's one of those I don't remember

1521
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:45,399
anything about that record. I remember
it sounded a bit like songs that were

1522
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:48,600
on like Disney comedies from the early
two thousands, and that's it. Whereas

1523
01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:54,720
this, the raucous energy of it, that total fucking you know, delete,

1524
01:36:54,760 --> 01:36:56,760
delete, delete is They played that
song when I saw them, and

1525
01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:58,800
it's the first time again I'd never
heard of them. I went home and

1526
01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:00,039
I was looking for that song.
They played my find it and then but

1527
01:37:00,159 --> 01:37:03,079
the hook stayed with me for like
a year. Yeah, and then it

1528
01:37:03,119 --> 01:37:04,680
turned up here and I was like, oh, hello you again. And

1529
01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:09,399
that to me is just like perfect, you know, twenty twenty three online

1530
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:14,680
ramons like one minute forty three fizzy
energy, the nervous frustration it gets put

1531
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:16,119
into, It's just like raucous as
fuck, fun as fuck pop tune.

1532
01:37:16,159 --> 01:37:23,720
And for me, that just total
rock and roll abandon of it hits me

1533
01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:27,359
with this record in a way a
lot of them, don't. I mean,

1534
01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:29,880
I kind of wish there was a
little bit more of that on this

1535
01:37:30,039 --> 01:37:32,359
record, the the punkier, faster
songs, because quite a lot of it

1536
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:35,279
is still quite slacker, and I'm
totally in on the slack of stuff.

1537
01:37:35,279 --> 01:37:40,199
But when like delete delete comes in
and it is just like that pure like

1538
01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:45,279
burst of punk, like just like
a fizzy drink exploding everywhere and you've just

1539
01:37:45,359 --> 01:37:47,359
down to like six cans of red
bulln and you bounce with the wolves.

1540
01:37:47,680 --> 01:37:49,520
A bit more of that would have
been like the thing that would have just

1541
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:54,000
made this even sweeter for me.
Yeah, I think the moments where they

1542
01:37:54,079 --> 01:37:58,079
do that definitely translate best. I
mean you the thing you're saying about the

1543
01:37:58,079 --> 01:38:00,520
title track being full of energy or
whatever. I think if that had a

1544
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:04,199
cleaner set of lyrics, it could
be the opening credits to something like Skins,

1545
01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:10,079
which it's a groover man. I
mean maybe, but it all just

1546
01:38:10,159 --> 01:38:13,359
sounds a bit polite. And where
My Girls At again? That chorus is

1547
01:38:13,399 --> 01:38:15,199
good, but a lot of that
song it feels like the sort of song

1548
01:38:15,239 --> 01:38:18,840
that two main characters in a Netflix
show would be shouting over at the back

1549
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:23,239
of a venue. And I don't
know that maybe sounds really rude, but

1550
01:38:23,319 --> 01:38:27,520
it's like it's not that thing you're
describing isn't translating to me. I mean,

1551
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:30,600
let's do drugs, which is kind
of amusing, but it sort of

1552
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:35,520
feels like CIA music, Like it
feels a bit like some kind of psyopter,

1553
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:40,560
you know, stupefy the youth so
they don't rebel, and I mean,

1554
01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:43,399
I don't feel like it. Again. That chorus is great. I

1555
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:47,159
can't hack those verses, like it's
like the Talking Heads, but Dave Burn's

1556
01:38:47,199 --> 01:38:51,439
got a sideways cap on. It's
like, I don't know for me.

1557
01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:57,000
For me, I think this record
picks up a lot in its final leg.

1558
01:38:57,279 --> 01:39:00,520
I think sort of when it calms
down, it's like being with a

1559
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:03,199
really drunk friend where the booze first
hits and you're like, okay, okay,

1560
01:39:03,279 --> 01:39:05,640
let's just you know, okay,
fine, yes, no, yes,

1561
01:39:06,119 --> 01:39:09,479
yes, oh we're singing now,
okay, good good, And then

1562
01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:13,640
when they kind of sober up and
slightly get to grips with it again,

1563
01:39:14,159 --> 01:39:16,079
I think the run of like cashing
on my cachet. Nobody knows, let's

1564
01:39:16,079 --> 01:39:18,760
get out of here. Who the
hell am I? They're all really well

1565
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:24,479
written songs, and no bro like, they're clearly very talented writer. It's

1566
01:39:24,520 --> 01:39:27,279
like you say that, I don't
want to be on the internet hook that's

1567
01:39:27,319 --> 01:39:30,640
in my head all the time,
and I don't think you can be a

1568
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:36,319
bad band and achieve that sort of
thing. Really, I'm just almost I

1569
01:39:36,359 --> 01:39:40,399
think it's because the stuff I like
robs up so close next to the stuff

1570
01:39:40,439 --> 01:39:44,399
I don't like, then it makes
it a bit more frustrating for me.

1571
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:46,479
Like where my girls at. There's
a lot you know obviously saw them with

1572
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:49,760
pup, the way they have that
like big burst of like fat distorted guitars

1573
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:53,840
and melody at the start with the
whoa that shit that hits me in a

1574
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:57,600
similar kind of way that you know, completely knocks any of that fucking like

1575
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:00,560
fake band, creative for TV or
whatever kind of like image, which I

1576
01:40:01,159 --> 01:40:03,520
know exactly what you are getting at, because that's how I feel about a

1577
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:06,119
lot of the ones that people like. Right because again this isn't really my

1578
01:40:06,199 --> 01:40:11,119
world. But the lyrics in that
song half that initial burst, they're so

1579
01:40:11,359 --> 01:40:14,479
simple. It's not you know,
poetry, you know, but it's very

1580
01:40:15,279 --> 01:40:17,600
The melody is great, and it
has that thing of it makes you just

1581
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:20,720
want to kind of hear that story
and hang out with these people. It's

1582
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:24,319
so fully sweeps into the sentiment on
that song. For me at least,

1583
01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:27,479
it has that kind of dirty and
ill thing of like writing a song that

1584
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:31,199
cuts right to the just like initial
unblenished seed of why people start bands and

1585
01:40:31,359 --> 01:40:33,279
like rock music and make you want
to go and do it yourself. It

1586
01:40:33,359 --> 01:40:36,600
fucking rocks where they just do the
let's go no bro into the chorus.

1587
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:43,399
It's so just like infectiously just like
fuck it dive straight in who cares whatever?

1588
01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:45,439
And like again for me, like
this record shits all over the Dirty

1589
01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:47,159
Note record from this year, which
I thought was you know, good,

1590
01:40:47,239 --> 01:40:50,399
but we spoke about being less than
the run they've been on this has I've

1591
01:40:50,399 --> 01:40:55,199
forgotten half those songs. I'm not
never forgetting loads of these and then give

1592
01:40:55,239 --> 01:40:58,720
me more at the end. Is
like it's like demented, like kids eating

1593
01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:01,960
eighteen lollipops on the called disco rock
and roll. Fucking ending. It doesn't

1594
01:41:02,039 --> 01:41:06,119
leave you any room or moment to
be bored. It's so just like grabbing

1595
01:41:06,159 --> 01:41:10,880
you and shaking you about. For
me, it's just it is like it

1596
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:15,319
is pure sugar rush right Like it's
pure fucking down everything, twenty nine minutes

1597
01:41:15,359 --> 01:41:20,319
of just like completely fuck it,
b free, breathless attitude, and it's

1598
01:41:20,399 --> 01:41:24,479
the like pound for pound, moment
for moment, how much of that they

1599
01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:28,039
fit in makes this just one of
the most like it will put a grin

1600
01:41:28,119 --> 01:41:30,399
on your face records I've heard this
year. Like I completely I understand all

1601
01:41:30,399 --> 01:41:33,239
of your complaints partially because, like
I said, I share them for like

1602
01:41:33,640 --> 01:41:36,159
many other bands or things in this
kind of scene. So I don't know

1603
01:41:36,159 --> 01:41:40,000
where you're coming from. I do
think you will be in a minority.

1604
01:41:40,079 --> 01:41:43,079
I think the most like people who
there will be people who share it,

1605
01:41:43,199 --> 01:41:45,359
but most people who are listen to
us right now. Who will put this

1606
01:41:45,399 --> 01:41:48,039
record on will just have the fucking
time of their lives. Oh again,

1607
01:41:49,399 --> 01:41:53,119
I live in this sort of area, and I think this is just a

1608
01:41:53,359 --> 01:41:58,199
wonderful, joyful blast of like good
feelings and happy fun times. Yeah,

1609
01:41:58,239 --> 01:42:00,600
you know, it's got that Canadian
indie punk thing. But at the same

1610
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:02,560
time, part of it's like,
what if really good Eagles are death metal,

1611
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:05,279
you know, like swing your hips, get the bomb goes out,

1612
01:42:05,399 --> 01:42:10,000
let's dance and there's like AI sex
spots that like funcking like swager on that

1613
01:42:10,159 --> 01:42:12,199
is like, oh, that's what
Like a lot of those gage with bands

1614
01:42:12,239 --> 01:42:14,560
I don't like, that's what I
kind of wish they sounded like. Yeah,

1615
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:16,439
And for so many of those bands
I do find to be extremely sort

1616
01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:20,760
of neuted in a studio capacity,
whereas Nobro have that kind of raggedy edge

1617
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:24,720
of like it feels like it's kind
of been thrown together in the moment,

1618
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:27,640
and that makes it work so much
better. It's, like I said,

1619
01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:30,119
it's twenty nine minutes long. So
many people love this kind of shit,

1620
01:42:30,199 --> 01:42:32,359
even if they've not had this put
in front of them. For me,

1621
01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:35,960
it's so rare that I love something
like this this much, and so if

1622
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:41,359
that is you like, I insist, if you like just fun rock music,

1623
01:42:41,640 --> 01:42:44,279
you've got to listen to this nobro
album. There will be so many

1624
01:42:44,359 --> 01:42:46,560
of you where this is made for
you. It's called set your Pussy Free,

1625
01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:50,000
and you know we recommend you do
just that. Okay, second half

1626
01:42:50,079 --> 01:42:55,640
of the reviews, we will switch
into our more kind of underground extreme fair.

1627
01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:58,239
There is a bit more of that
this month, because the last month

1628
01:42:58,319 --> 01:43:01,520
has been really fucking busy in terms
of like big, high profile, critically

1629
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:06,600
acclaimed extreme metal records. So if
that's the kind of thing you want to

1630
01:43:06,640 --> 01:43:10,479
hear some of, then join us
throughout the rest of this episode and we'll

1631
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:13,279
dish you up some good stuff,
we hope. First stuff, we are

1632
01:43:13,319 --> 01:43:16,640
going to go classic band of the
bunch and it's Autopsy. Their record is

1633
01:43:16,760 --> 01:43:21,640
called Ashes, Organ, Blood and
Crypts, which Elliott you pointed out sounds

1634
01:43:21,680 --> 01:43:27,079
a bit like a kind of head, shoulders, knees and toes scenario where

1635
01:43:27,119 --> 01:43:30,520
you can very easily fit in a
torn he okays, hacks Aws and graves.

1636
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:39,359
They're just listing ship. I mean, they've got that is gonna be

1637
01:43:39,640 --> 01:43:42,479
gonna be when Autopsy retire it's when
they truck can't go it with a four

1638
01:43:43,159 --> 01:43:47,800
thing album. They've used all of
the words it's gonna be like file piss

1639
01:43:49,079 --> 01:43:54,800
dust. It has been. It's
been a really busy couple of months for

1640
01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:57,479
death metal legends. Like we have
coursed High Cannial Corps, so we spoke

1641
01:43:57,479 --> 01:44:00,279
about not long ago. We've also
had around that time Dying thus Cryptopsy,

1642
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:04,039
there was a Suffocation album this month. They've all come out the woodwork.

1643
01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:09,119
I think we will find a personal
glee in taking the time to properly talk

1644
01:44:09,159 --> 01:44:13,520
about the new album from Autopsy.
Elliott basically threaten to quit if we found

1645
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:15,920
the time to talk about Corey Taylor
in not this. It's a fair point.

1646
01:44:16,479 --> 01:44:20,000
Yeah. I'm glad though, because
this is the second Autopsy album in

1647
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:24,239
pretty much a twelve month period.
Because the one we had last year it

1648
01:44:24,359 --> 01:44:26,840
did slip through our reviews cracks,
so it kind of came out a busy

1649
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:30,119
time. This one had a bit
more impetus on it. I guess that

1650
01:44:30,199 --> 01:44:31,239
one had a bit more imptus on
it as like it was the first one

1651
01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:34,079
in a long old time. So
I'm glad that we've got the opportunity here

1652
01:44:34,079 --> 01:44:38,960
to kind of like rexify that and
talk about new Autopsy. Autopsy are if

1653
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:42,359
you heard our album Club we did
not too long ago on the Sickening Mental

1654
01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:46,439
Funeral album. They're one of our
maybe collective favorite kind of old school death

1655
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:50,520
metal bands. Particularly. I have
always seen them being of that whole era

1656
01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:55,039
of bands the most for just like
the real death metal freaks out there,

1657
01:44:55,079 --> 01:44:57,920
you know, because like Dying Fetus
and Suffocation, they've got these kind of

1658
01:44:57,960 --> 01:45:02,600
hardcore crossovers. Cannibal Corps are mass
Autopsy to me epit of myze just getting

1659
01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:08,079
your hands all in the sticky guts. That is sloppy, sloopy, poopy,

1660
01:45:08,319 --> 01:45:12,800
old school gore death metal. They
make records that when we spoke about

1661
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:15,159
Mental Funeral, which is very's the
most so in this direction, but it's

1662
01:45:15,159 --> 01:45:17,439
always there. They're pretty weird and
freakish, and they're very unique to their

1663
01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:20,680
own personality, even if they've reached
a point where now you kind of always

1664
01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:24,720
know what you're going to get.
Sam, you were quite taken aback by

1665
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:29,039
what a slimy old band Autopsy were. I suppose it's probably the first,

1666
01:45:29,079 --> 01:45:31,239
you know, Reunion era newer material
that you will have heard from them.

1667
01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:34,520
Were you at all, you know, were you invigorated by checking out what

1668
01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:38,399
this band sounded like thirty years on
from the one you had last heard.

1669
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:41,439
I mean, the first of I
listened to this album was I'd stayed up

1670
01:45:41,439 --> 01:45:44,079
till five am watching wrestling and had
to steal gap at like nine am the

1671
01:45:44,119 --> 01:45:45,680
next day, and I put it
on just kind of like bash my.

1672
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:50,119
I was like I need to I
am delirious and sleep deprived. Stick autops

1673
01:45:50,159 --> 01:45:53,680
on and just kind of like bash
away the cobwebs, and god, it

1674
01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:57,399
did that job. This was like
there was there was something quite just nice

1675
01:45:57,439 --> 01:46:01,640
about like using this as reinvigorate myself, because it is I think this is

1676
01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:05,159
quite like Walk and Blood and crips. This isn't quite as like sloppy and

1677
01:46:05,239 --> 01:46:10,640
disgusting as Middle Funeral is, but
for like a sort of veteran sort of

1678
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:16,039
legacy Definite band still got a nice
amount of like gor sod like grossness to

1679
01:46:16,159 --> 01:46:20,520
it alongside you know, thrashing riffs
and big hefty grooves. Yeah, I

1680
01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:24,479
think we're I guess we're in a
bit of sort of phase three autopsy ALB

1681
01:46:24,520 --> 01:46:27,399
because obviously there is sort of the
initial classic run in the late eighties and

1682
01:46:27,439 --> 01:46:30,479
early nineties. Then after about fifteen
years away, they reunited, perhaps a

1683
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:33,520
little bit of a harbinger of all
those great extreme metal comebacks we got in

1684
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:35,520
the twenty tens, because I was
a real glut of those around kind of

1685
01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:39,520
twenty thirteen, fourteen, you know, Carcass, Gore, Guts, God,

1686
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:43,239
Flash at the Gates. Autopsy in
twenty eleven released there, I think

1687
01:46:43,319 --> 01:46:45,479
phenomenal comeback album of carbaternal Elliot.
I was quite hardened to hear that you

1688
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:49,439
share the specific affection for that album
that I very much do. The thing

1689
01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:55,079
that you normally have to know about
Autopsy is that they're very prolific in an

1690
01:46:55,159 --> 01:46:59,359
era when like a standard weight of
what you'd expect for a new album from

1691
01:46:59,399 --> 01:47:03,000
a band is like three four years. Autopsy came back and immediately they seem

1692
01:47:03,039 --> 01:47:06,319
to retain like that old era's work
rate with them, because every year they

1693
01:47:06,399 --> 01:47:12,000
released something pretty much and it's literally
all great everything they released in that early

1694
01:47:12,079 --> 01:47:15,680
to mid twenty tens period, and
then all of a sudden it just stopped,

1695
01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:18,399
didn't they. Yeah, I think
we took them for granted. They

1696
01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:21,319
were trying to show us what we
were missing, because in my time of

1697
01:47:21,359 --> 01:47:25,760
being an Autopsy fan. That's what
they did. It was like macarb,

1698
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:30,479
maternal, headless, ritual, Turkit, Saxles and graves within what two and

1699
01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:33,039
a half three years? Like EPs
in most years, they didn't really supple

1700
01:47:33,119 --> 01:47:38,560
length. Yeah, and then it
was just sort of the odd EP here

1701
01:47:38,680 --> 01:47:44,840
or there, but basically a five
year drought a thing between Comora. It's

1702
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:48,479
known as some EP in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen and counting the grotesque is

1703
01:47:48,479 --> 01:47:54,159
that one? Yeah, yes,
very good. And then last year Morbidity

1704
01:47:54,600 --> 01:48:00,880
I kind of say it Morbidity triumphant. Morbidity triumphant. When that came out,

1705
01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:03,560
it was like, Okay, save
at this one, save at every

1706
01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:08,680
second because who knows, like we
might have to wait another seven years for

1707
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:13,880
another Autopsy record, and then twelve
months later we get one that might be

1708
01:48:14,520 --> 01:48:20,119
even better and a contender for the
best autopsy record of Phase two and three.

1709
01:48:21,119 --> 01:48:26,640
Wow. I am head over head, over ashes, organ blood and

1710
01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:30,319
crips. Yeah, because they were
still playing shows in that time. Like

1711
01:48:30,359 --> 01:48:32,760
I don't know what happened. It
was like this band just seemed to be

1712
01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:35,399
able to shit out an album of
quality death not every single year, and

1713
01:48:35,439 --> 01:48:39,399
they just dried up for a period
of time, which they would usually have

1714
01:48:39,399 --> 01:48:41,800
put out about five more records.
And then I don't know if it was

1715
01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:44,439
a pandemic or what, but they
came back again. They've had a slight

1716
01:48:44,520 --> 01:48:46,640
lineup change. Maybe that reinvigorated them
again. It's just like nothing's happened.

1717
01:48:46,720 --> 01:48:53,039
Second autopsy in two years running again
brilliant. I certainly agree in terms Mobidity

1718
01:48:53,039 --> 01:48:56,720
Triumphant, the I Guess come Back, come Back album whatever like that was

1719
01:48:56,800 --> 01:48:59,199
really good. Maybe it was just
an affection for the ones that I came

1720
01:48:59,239 --> 01:49:00,720
out when I was a teenage.
For me, it's not like Upper End

1721
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:04,880
Reunion Autopsy, like Macabaturner was a
fucking monolith. I also have a real

1722
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:08,439
love for the one they left off
with the last time, which is Torny

1723
01:49:08,479 --> 01:49:12,600
Case Haxles and Graves. Yes,
but Morbidity Triumphant really good, absolutely worthy

1724
01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:16,680
the standard they set themselves this one. I think it's not toppling my favorites

1725
01:49:16,720 --> 01:49:19,359
from those early twenty tens, but
I do agree. I think it's personally

1726
01:49:19,439 --> 01:49:23,840
might be even a little bit better
than the one they came back with last

1727
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:27,199
year. Having another couple of different
flavors in the mix they didn't have,

1728
01:49:27,279 --> 01:49:30,039
and again compared to like some of
those albums that we haven't reviewed, right,

1729
01:49:30,079 --> 01:49:31,920
Like the Dying Fetus album is great, right, it's Dying Fetus again.

1730
01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:34,960
They had quite a while away as
well, but they've hit a spot.

1731
01:49:35,039 --> 01:49:38,960
The Suffocation album pretty good, right, the Ryptopsy album that came out

1732
01:49:39,119 --> 01:49:42,760
pretty good. This one, I'm
glad it's the one we're reviewing because they

1733
01:49:42,920 --> 01:49:45,079
just put an extra smile on my
face beyond any other ones that just go,

1734
01:49:45,319 --> 01:49:49,760
yeah, that's my fucking guys.
They're ripping it. I mean,

1735
01:49:49,800 --> 01:49:54,680
this is it Like I mean you
saying that you have more of a affinity

1736
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:58,079
for the initial Reunion stuff. I'm
saying it might be the best. And

1737
01:49:58,119 --> 01:50:01,039
it's in the conversation for it.
It's in the comversation with macar and Tourno

1738
01:50:01,079 --> 01:50:04,439
kits some great I think it would
certainly I think as a very strong shout

1739
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:09,600
of being on the podium, right
Union, Death of Reunion, Autopsy and

1740
01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:12,600
stuff, and that is pretty good, fucking going. It's great this record.

1741
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:15,399
Yeah, and the last one had
this kind of woozy, kind of

1742
01:50:15,680 --> 01:50:18,960
speedy up and slowing down qualities to
which was maybe a bit more like mental

1743
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:21,640
funeral, which so people people.
I don't know if it again, I

1744
01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:25,600
don't know if it was just the
drought we had or if it really was

1745
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:30,920
a more popular autopsy record, but
that seemed to get more interest than certainly

1746
01:50:30,960 --> 01:50:33,880
the last couple of the initial of
the initial reunion ones. This might be

1747
01:50:34,039 --> 01:50:39,840
the most at it autopsy record in
I was gonna say a decade, but

1748
01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:43,119
there's only been one since then,
But like of the reunion ones, it

1749
01:50:43,279 --> 01:50:47,600
might be one of the most like
go for the throat and I just love

1750
01:50:47,680 --> 01:50:49,720
that, Like you say, it's
just the sound of it comes on and

1751
01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:54,560
just like that's those are the boys. Yeah. I think one of the

1752
01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:57,359
things that's really endearing that autopsy to
me and why I think they are still

1753
01:50:57,479 --> 01:51:00,439
valuable today next to some of those
other death mot bands who on a surface

1754
01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:01,560
level, sure similarly they do a
kind of does what it says on the

1755
01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:04,479
tin thing. But I think part
of why it is actually worthy, like

1756
01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:10,399
still reviewing autopsy records about comparison,
is they have this very old school approach

1757
01:51:10,479 --> 01:51:14,319
of working together where they've always been
like the weird spiky punk band of those

1758
01:51:14,359 --> 01:51:16,279
death metal bands, like you know, LinkedIn to what we were saying about

1759
01:51:16,279 --> 01:51:19,399
how they kind of seem to operate
on like a turnaround timetable of a band

1760
01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:21,760
of an older era. But their
material always has this feel to me of

1761
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:26,159
stuff that has been jammed out in
a room somewhere, and there is a

1762
01:51:26,279 --> 01:51:31,560
spontaneity to it that makes their albums
just continually fun and refreshing to listen to,

1763
01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:36,520
even still finding the daftist combinations of
words and then spinning like comic book

1764
01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:41,640
splatter horror stories out with them.
Rabid funeral, How the fuck does a

1765
01:51:41,720 --> 01:51:45,319
funeral become rabids? But autopsy go, well, have we got a story

1766
01:51:45,399 --> 01:51:47,720
for you? Let us tell you? And I love that. You know,

1767
01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:51,039
what has should have been sacred is
now me hemic violence. It's brilliant.

1768
01:51:51,039 --> 01:51:54,880
I love that opener. I love
when a death metal album starts and

1769
01:51:55,000 --> 01:51:58,159
the very first riff makes you want
to like punch the air and all the

1770
01:51:58,279 --> 01:52:01,199
symbol stabs like it's sick. That's
what I mean about, like waking me

1771
01:52:01,319 --> 01:52:04,760
up for my sleep to state is
hit him playing getting greeted with that rift,

1772
01:52:05,000 --> 01:52:08,960
I mean, I mean that opening
is fucking brilliant in terms of just

1773
01:52:09,039 --> 01:52:12,880
like blasting you with evil riffs.
That that bit like a minute where they

1774
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:15,319
kind of flip between the groove and
those kato blasts and then back and forth

1775
01:52:15,399 --> 01:52:20,359
like changing up changes from like the
thrashy stuff to just like fat drunkard falling

1776
01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:25,119
through the buffet table, like the
funeral swing that it goes for only autopsy

1777
01:52:25,199 --> 01:52:27,800
really do it like that? Yeah, that mid tiple group where the vocals

1778
01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:32,079
go like ah, like that,
and it just so that that is that

1779
01:52:32,199 --> 01:52:35,640
is what he's doing at that point, and it just sounds so sick and

1780
01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:40,640
repulsive in the best way. And
then that's on back off of the song.

1781
01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:44,319
It just kind of like gets really
weird, like it's decomposing as it

1782
01:52:44,399 --> 01:52:46,760
goes like drags up that, yeah, for the second half in a way

1783
01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:50,199
that were the basses kind of like
wandering up and down. That's that's what

1784
01:52:50,279 --> 01:52:54,359
I mean. That's like a five
minute track that starts like bulling a china

1785
01:52:54,399 --> 01:52:58,239
shop, Yeah, and then it
ends weird creepy doom with like an actual

1786
01:52:58,359 --> 01:53:01,520
bass guitar melody, and that feels
like something that's been really fleshed out organically,

1787
01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:04,680
you know, that doesn't come together
in a clunky, sterile file sharing

1788
01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:10,079
way. That's the sound of the
four guys in autopsy figuring out something in

1789
01:53:10,159 --> 01:53:14,279
real time together. They've always had
this cool thing where on their longer songs

1790
01:53:14,399 --> 01:53:16,399
they seem to get tired by the
end, which sounds like a criticism,

1791
01:53:16,880 --> 01:53:20,680
but it's so enjoyable to listen to, because when you see five minute autopsy

1792
01:53:20,720 --> 01:53:23,319
song, you know, well,
the last minute it is just gonna be

1793
01:53:23,399 --> 01:53:27,960
like, yeah, it's like all
of the flesh has fallen off. Yeah,

1794
01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:30,960
like a corpse with bits just dropping
off. It is what that sounds

1795
01:53:30,079 --> 01:53:33,079
like. And as much as I
love his vocals, I'm very rarely paying

1796
01:53:33,079 --> 01:53:35,319
attention to what he's saying. But
I had when I had the song for

1797
01:53:35,359 --> 01:53:39,479
the first time I had a song, did he just say the casket is

1798
01:53:39,560 --> 01:53:44,920
blasted? Like, why isn't that
on my T shirt? As we speak?

1799
01:53:45,439 --> 01:53:47,279
And then when that song, like
you say, it just sort of

1800
01:53:47,399 --> 01:53:50,439
chokes on its own vomit and dies. And then the next song he just

1801
01:53:50,439 --> 01:53:57,239
says throats. I couldn't believe they
hadn't had a song called Throatsaw before.

1802
01:53:57,680 --> 01:54:00,960
I guess hack saws are pretty popular, but people't really gone for the throat

1803
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:02,720
saws before. And then I remember
that hook every time it comes around,

1804
01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:08,000
right, throat saw brilliant on that
like unhinged toppling down a flight of stairs

1805
01:54:08,079 --> 01:54:11,920
punk death that or avalanche that they
do, you know, freakish guitar silos.

1806
01:54:12,079 --> 01:54:14,720
I love like that you're saying with
you know Rifer, the way he

1807
01:54:14,760 --> 01:54:19,199
does this kind of like garbled crip
keeper arrating the story hooks you get out

1808
01:54:19,199 --> 01:54:23,199
of him. My favorite one in
that is No Mortal Left Alive, which

1809
01:54:23,239 --> 01:54:26,680
has that skip that is really like
twisted with the guitars and make it feel

1810
01:54:26,720 --> 01:54:29,560
really gross. And Chris on top
of it is doing this like really rhythmic

1811
01:54:29,760 --> 01:54:33,399
enunciation ode there is No Mortal Left
Alive and that's the more restrained hook of

1812
01:54:33,439 --> 01:54:36,760
the two. Then he goes on
manic and he starts going everyone's dead eye's.

1813
01:54:39,239 --> 01:54:43,359
It's just like so splattery and frenzied
in a way that those more straight

1814
01:54:43,439 --> 01:54:46,319
down the line brutal death metal bands, they don't evoke that through having more

1815
01:54:46,359 --> 01:54:50,000
kind of uniformity. There's a genuine
sort of like someone's let a nutter loose

1816
01:54:50,239 --> 01:54:55,399
feel that you get in this.
I don't know if Autopsy realize how funny

1817
01:54:55,520 --> 01:55:00,479
No Mortal Left Alive is as a
song title. I had the exact thought.

1818
01:55:00,479 --> 01:55:04,399
I was like, presumably there are
lots of immortals around. Again,

1819
01:55:04,439 --> 01:55:08,560
when that bleeds in, it's almost
got a kind of like jazz metal black

1820
01:55:08,640 --> 01:55:11,920
flag riff, which you know,
in the hands of another band could be

1821
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:15,439
quite a brainy cerebral move. But
then by the end, like you say,

1822
01:55:15,479 --> 01:55:18,479
you're spinkicking to a man, just
going everything's dead, Everything's fucking dead.

1823
01:55:19,520 --> 01:55:23,399
I mean you were said about like
his kind of like narration storytelling and

1824
01:55:23,439 --> 01:55:26,720
like the cripken thing. Well of
Entroughs is the one for me where that's

1825
01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:30,560
kind of got that sense of grandeur
and then it's like doing the whole squills

1826
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:33,640
of torment filled my mind and the
sheet is everywhere on that one. It's

1827
01:55:33,720 --> 01:55:38,239
beautiful. There's so much character because
again, like with a lot of extrict

1828
01:55:38,279 --> 01:55:41,279
like the realty mans, I can
sometimes feel like with the vocal is there,

1829
01:55:41,399 --> 01:55:44,000
they can be interchangeable. I don't
feel that Autopsy. I'm like,

1830
01:55:44,039 --> 01:55:46,920
no, there is a character to
his vocals that makes him distinct in his

1831
01:55:47,039 --> 01:55:53,119
kind of like weird just like vomiting
delivery and lyricism. It's like, no,

1832
01:55:53,479 --> 01:55:56,359
that's made from autopsy. Yeah,
it's it's the punk band thing.

1833
01:55:56,399 --> 01:55:58,800
You know the way you were here, just some random punk guy. You

1834
01:55:58,840 --> 01:56:01,359
pick up a microphone and got something
insane, but you'll remember it, right,

1835
01:56:01,600 --> 01:56:05,439
it's not fully honed whatever. They
have that spirit they always have done.

1836
01:56:05,680 --> 01:56:11,319
It's you know, the way they
approach grooves and rhythms have a kind

1837
01:56:11,359 --> 01:56:15,159
of old school seventies eighties feel to
them that is so refreshing. It's like,

1838
01:56:15,159 --> 01:56:18,000
you know it Sabbath meets Celtic Frost
meets the Dead Kennedy's you know,

1839
01:56:18,199 --> 01:56:21,800
through death metal. It's getting a
lot out of a little and well of

1840
01:56:21,960 --> 01:56:27,079
entrails. Is like where it goes
pure, like slow slow Celtic Frost,

1841
01:56:27,239 --> 01:56:30,920
note bending evil, And I think
this ABM is particularly good. I think

1842
01:56:30,920 --> 01:56:33,840
in terms of having the the dynamics
of the different flavors of Autopsy. It

1843
01:56:33,960 --> 01:56:36,760
does really really well as a track
list because on the other side of the

1844
01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:43,359
coin toxic death fuck with uh,
which you have to know the fuck is

1845
01:56:43,399 --> 01:56:47,399
spelled with no C, just one
K right. Fuck. It's a fucking

1846
01:56:47,600 --> 01:56:53,119
tune that is, it's catchy,
it's groovy, it's got that again kind

1847
01:56:53,159 --> 01:56:55,640
of bull in a China shot,
mid tempo, totally just want to like

1848
01:56:55,760 --> 01:56:59,279
mosh and stamp about but the commitment
to the bit. There's a bit between

1849
01:56:59,279 --> 01:57:02,239
the chorus and the verse where Chris
just like off the mic is like coughing

1850
01:57:02,319 --> 01:57:05,960
and spluttering. I like to imagine
that actually happened. I like to imagine

1851
01:57:05,960 --> 01:57:09,720
he was just kept that in like
maybe, but for me, it's kind

1852
01:57:09,720 --> 01:57:12,359
of like he's you know, he's
breathing in toxic fumes as he's singing,

1853
01:57:12,359 --> 01:57:14,439
because what is it, It's a
toxic death. Fuck of course, what

1854
01:57:14,520 --> 01:57:16,880
else is he gonna do? But
I like to imagine they just did.

1855
01:57:17,119 --> 01:57:24,439
Like it's so fucking rad in the
albut here just like it's like it shouldn't

1856
01:57:24,479 --> 01:57:27,199
be, but it is in terms
of the context of what they built.

1857
01:57:27,199 --> 01:57:30,079
And I'm gonna remember that track on
this album. It's not interchangeable with any

1858
01:57:30,159 --> 01:57:33,800
others. And like there's always a
load of songs on each record that you're

1859
01:57:33,880 --> 01:57:36,119
jazzed about, right, and like
we can actually nerd out about what our

1860
01:57:36,199 --> 01:57:41,039
favorite individual Autopsy tracks on each album
are, right, rather than just being

1861
01:57:41,079 --> 01:57:44,119
a pulverizing experience as a whole,
which again I love it. I don't

1862
01:57:44,119 --> 01:57:45,720
think this is a too negative but
like that Dying Fetus album, for example,

1863
01:57:45,720 --> 01:57:48,239
that Suffocation album, they are more
like that. Like for me,

1864
01:57:48,359 --> 01:57:50,760
I go, yeah things I particularly
love on this, I love that.

1865
01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:56,159
I love Marrow Fiend, which does
just like legit heavy metal struck riff.

1866
01:57:56,319 --> 01:57:58,920
It's like when hell Hammer used to
do riffs that you could tell were taken

1867
01:57:58,960 --> 01:58:01,199
from heavy metal bands but really greased
them up. And then Rifer on that

1868
01:58:01,279 --> 01:58:05,119
one, he's like just very comprehensibly
death muttering, I don't care if you

1869
01:58:05,279 --> 01:58:09,199
bleed, like on that riff,
it's so cool, like that's it again.

1870
01:58:09,359 --> 01:58:11,279
There are hooks in there the whole
I don't care if you suffer.

1871
01:58:11,319 --> 01:58:14,039
I don't care if you bleed,
and like, yeah, that your life.

1872
01:58:14,079 --> 01:58:15,680
It fades my fetish whatever. It
is like that at the end,

1873
01:58:15,720 --> 01:58:21,840
lie like there is memorable vocal like
lines from him that just keep it again,

1874
01:58:23,279 --> 01:58:26,279
way more engaging than there are a
lot of the more interchangeable death melt

1875
01:58:26,319 --> 01:58:29,119
stuff. On the face of it, Marrow Theme seems like one of the

1876
01:58:29,199 --> 01:58:31,920
less mental songs, but the main
riff it's built on at least, I

1877
01:58:31,960 --> 01:58:35,520
mean, it is sort of Gothic
era Paradise Lost, and that gives a

1878
01:58:35,560 --> 01:58:41,680
way to a riff that sounds like
Autopsy doing a spy theme and that's all

1879
01:58:41,760 --> 01:58:45,560
in the first ninety seconds, like
it's proper and again the things that will

1880
01:58:45,600 --> 01:58:49,039
be memorable Again, I don't even
know if I'm laughing at it or genuinely

1881
01:58:49,079 --> 01:58:53,159
loving it. But death is the
answer, which doesn't sound like a typical

1882
01:58:53,439 --> 01:58:58,680
Autopsy song until it comes on sounding
like Slayer and the lyrics are just listing

1883
01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:05,000
questions where death literally is the just
shouts death a lot, Like I haven't

1884
01:59:05,039 --> 01:59:08,039
quite paid attention to that part.
I need to go back and find that

1885
01:59:08,119 --> 01:59:14,000
that sounds brilliant. Yeah, Like
the production I think is the perfect kind

1886
01:59:14,039 --> 01:59:16,000
of you know, it sounds up
to standard to now like it's you know,

1887
01:59:16,079 --> 01:59:18,359
if some mopen put mental food on. It was like all the shit

1888
01:59:18,439 --> 01:59:21,840
is this? This sounds good?
Right? But it has the same kind

1889
01:59:21,880 --> 01:59:27,159
of like cracking bones under your feet
like Sonics just blood feats that they've always

1890
01:59:27,239 --> 01:59:30,760
had the bass. I have to
really you know, Greg Wilkinson, who's

1891
01:59:30,760 --> 01:59:31,920
the new addition they've had to the
band. He's been brilliant for them so

1892
01:59:32,079 --> 01:59:35,880
far, and he's been a producer
for like lots of like newer horrid death

1893
01:59:35,960 --> 01:59:39,760
metal bands like Undergang and Vastam and
stuff. And he gets it because he's

1894
01:59:39,840 --> 01:59:43,279
not only is it like that,
but also they've always had that black Sabbath

1895
01:59:43,279 --> 01:59:45,079
approach in a death metal band,
of like, the bass is going to

1896
01:59:45,119 --> 01:59:47,960
be important, it's going to be
audible, it's going to carry melodies in

1897
01:59:48,039 --> 01:59:50,279
its own right, even if the
riffing is simple. It's not like a

1898
01:59:50,319 --> 01:59:54,359
fretless tech death thing, you know, but it's going to be bubbling away

1899
01:59:54,479 --> 01:59:58,000
like something of an older era.
And that is you know, when they

1900
01:59:58,039 --> 02:00:00,520
do that like kind of little creepy
hand of doom type moment at the end

1901
02:00:00,560 --> 02:00:06,199
of the title track, having the
moments of like that funeral march subtlety instead

1902
02:00:06,239 --> 02:00:11,000
of just being like on ten Gore
maniacs every single moment. And then right

1903
02:00:11,039 --> 02:00:14,479
after that that evil like Slayer harmony
riff in Bones of the Wolves that follows

1904
02:00:14,520 --> 02:00:18,039
it is like so good for how
it's been set up. Again having my

1905
02:00:18,119 --> 02:00:21,000
critical hat on, I think for
me, the album peaks with Toxic Death

1906
02:00:21,079 --> 02:00:25,279
Fuck, which closes off this brilliant
run of the first eight tracks. The

1907
02:00:25,399 --> 02:00:29,000
last three songs are very good autopsy
stuff, not quite as memorable for me

1908
02:00:29,039 --> 02:00:30,359
as the first two thirds, but
again I look at those and I go

1909
02:00:30,479 --> 02:00:33,560
death of the answer sounds like a
very good lyrics but also go It's pretty

1910
02:00:33,560 --> 02:00:36,600
hard, has that wicked based doom
part in the second half. Coagulation has

1911
02:00:36,600 --> 02:00:41,239
a great riff, like it is
a delicious dose of bangers. I haven't

1912
02:00:41,279 --> 02:00:44,159
got around to picking up the last
one yet, like physically, and they've

1913
02:00:44,199 --> 02:00:47,520
put out one. I think I
do like more than it. Yeah,

1914
02:00:47,680 --> 02:00:50,359
And I mean, like you say
in the thing is in the nineties,

1915
02:00:50,760 --> 02:00:56,119
Autopsy one of the most like radical
death metal bands around in terms of every

1916
02:00:56,159 --> 02:01:01,199
album sounded completely different from its neighbors, and there is something sort of,

1917
02:01:01,279 --> 02:01:05,319
on the face of it, slightly
weird about them having that history and then

1918
02:01:05,399 --> 02:01:10,680
in both reunions kind of more or
less settling on a mix of the first

1919
02:01:10,720 --> 02:01:13,920
two records with I mean, there's
bits on this struct remind me slightly of

1920
02:01:14,000 --> 02:01:16,680
actually unspeakable, like Coagulation, the
way that opens, it's kind of similar.

1921
02:01:17,319 --> 02:01:20,960
Pretty much everything you get now is
one style of Autopsy. And would

1922
02:01:21,000 --> 02:01:26,359
it be cool to hear them do
other things? I suppose, But who's

1923
02:01:26,439 --> 02:01:29,760
going to replace what Autopsy do,
Like no one, But they're finding fresh

1924
02:01:29,800 --> 02:01:31,479
things to do with it, Like
they haven't written toxic death fuck before,

1925
02:01:31,560 --> 02:01:34,479
right, that kind of weird song
they haven't done that no more or left

1926
02:01:34,520 --> 02:01:40,439
Alive feels like, you know,
its own distinct kind of song. You

1927
02:01:40,479 --> 02:01:43,520
Obviously you couldn't say this when we
were getting into Autopsy because they've been out

1928
02:01:43,520 --> 02:01:45,039
of the game for so long.
But I think we absolutely need to put

1929
02:01:45,279 --> 02:01:49,399
Autopsy in like the higher end of
the conversation now for the most consistent death

1930
02:01:49,439 --> 02:01:53,720
of a hands of all time,
like it's Cannibal Corpse. Aside, I

1931
02:01:53,840 --> 02:01:59,319
don't know who in that field has
produced this many wins album after album that

1932
02:01:59,439 --> 02:02:01,279
make me feel like that good every
time a new one comes out, like

1933
02:02:01,359 --> 02:02:06,439
you are never disappointed. Yeah,
i'd literally that. That's the first time

1934
02:02:06,800 --> 02:02:12,039
I thought that. And even shit
Fun is fun, Yeah, I know

1935
02:02:12,319 --> 02:02:14,399
you couldn't. You couldn't say it
was shit fun being where they left off,

1936
02:02:14,439 --> 02:02:16,800
which again I quite enjoy. But
it's more like they've what they've talked

1937
02:02:16,960 --> 02:02:21,479
like five or six reunion albums now, not including the EPs, and it's

1938
02:02:21,720 --> 02:02:27,359
all brilliant, like one of the
coolest bands forever, Ashes, Organs,

1939
02:02:27,600 --> 02:02:30,159
Blood and Crips. The last stretch
of reviews for the year, in fact,

1940
02:02:30,199 --> 02:02:33,279
we had three black metal records.
I know that feels like a lot

1941
02:02:33,319 --> 02:02:38,359
it's because they're all massively different.
These are three records worth covering for completely

1942
02:02:38,399 --> 02:02:41,520
different reasons. We have had some
pretty wicked stuff from that world in the

1943
02:02:41,600 --> 02:02:45,479
last couple of months that will please
any stripe you know a black metal fan.

1944
02:02:45,640 --> 02:02:48,800
We are going to start with one
of my favorites, Wayfarer, American

1945
02:02:49,119 --> 02:02:54,720
Gothic. This band is American Shock
Horror. They've been about band for about

1946
02:02:54,720 --> 02:02:57,680
a decade. Over that time,
I think they've been a bit of a

1947
02:02:57,800 --> 02:03:01,319
sleeper in that they keep you know, they've been releasing records consistently and without

1948
02:03:01,399 --> 02:03:06,079
necessarily having like a big, palpable
breakthrough album. They've just reached a point

1949
02:03:06,399 --> 02:03:11,960
where they've gone from being a sort
of also ran to slowly becoming one of

1950
02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:15,680
the absolute most exciting bands in the
underground World's Blood in twenty eighteen was really

1951
02:03:15,720 --> 02:03:19,479
fucking good. Then for me a
Romance with Violence in twenty twenty was where

1952
02:03:19,479 --> 02:03:23,039
I went, oh shit, I
think I love this band, and then

1953
02:03:23,119 --> 02:03:27,079
American Gothic, building off of that, has been so well received in kind

1954
02:03:27,079 --> 02:03:29,520
of underground circles. In the last
few weeks. It just got to like

1955
02:03:29,600 --> 02:03:32,199
number three or something in Decibel's Album
of the Year list that they've just published,

1956
02:03:32,439 --> 02:03:34,119
and it's almost like, in general, like all of the kind of

1957
02:03:34,159 --> 02:03:38,159
built up work of their last several
albums is now kind of paying off,

1958
02:03:38,239 --> 02:03:41,640
and this album feels like a much
bigger deal and name in these conversations than

1959
02:03:41,640 --> 02:03:45,560
they were last time out, Elliott, Some of the I guess obvious black

1960
02:03:45,640 --> 02:03:48,399
metal predecessors of this band are bands
that we have spoken about sharing a love

1961
02:03:48,479 --> 02:03:51,479
of, but Wayfairer, I think
more than most bands, it's fair to

1962
02:03:51,520 --> 02:03:55,720
say, who follow in those kind
of footsteps, have developed their own kind

1963
02:03:55,760 --> 02:04:01,119
of slant on that American atmospheric black
metal template. Have you kind of like

1964
02:04:01,199 --> 02:04:03,720
how far back with Wayfair do you
go? Like have you had tabs on

1965
02:04:03,800 --> 02:04:06,039
these for the last few albums or
are you having the moment that a lot

1966
02:04:06,039 --> 02:04:09,800
of people seem to be having right
now of like having this like now pretty

1967
02:04:09,840 --> 02:04:13,840
fully formed thing popping up. Yeah. It was in a weird way sort

1968
02:04:13,840 --> 02:04:15,840
of both like I hate kind of
knew of them, and I knew people

1969
02:04:15,880 --> 02:04:18,319
that really liked them, and I've
heard some stuff along the way and thought

1970
02:04:18,359 --> 02:04:20,760
that sounds really good. I'll chet
that out. This is the first time

1971
02:04:20,880 --> 02:04:27,319
checking out a full record and sort
of getting the full Wayfairer experience, and

1972
02:04:27,399 --> 02:04:30,039
I think, well, I'll have
to go back to those other records.

1973
02:04:30,880 --> 02:04:34,800
But it does have this kind of
air of sort of significance to the whole

1974
02:04:34,880 --> 02:04:40,520
thing. I think this feels like, whereas before I kind of knew roughly

1975
02:04:40,560 --> 02:04:44,880
what they were going for, this
kind of feels like the like the calcification

1976
02:04:45,399 --> 02:04:48,800
of what it is they've been threatening
to offer until now. You can tell

1977
02:04:49,039 --> 02:04:53,279
I might have got that wrong,
but that's sort of my perception. I

1978
02:04:53,359 --> 02:04:55,800
mean, I think you can see
that they're treating as that from the fact

1979
02:04:55,800 --> 02:04:57,880
that they've stamped that title on it. Right. Yeah, it's like,

1980
02:04:57,960 --> 02:05:01,159
you know, this is American Gothic. Finatively, I agree in terms of

1981
02:05:01,239 --> 02:05:04,600
like this is them going, well, we've this is almost like the cap

1982
02:05:04,720 --> 02:05:08,880
on what we've done as a band
so far. These guys are from the

1983
02:05:09,199 --> 02:05:12,760
Denver, Colorado scene that seems to
have produced like half of the great underground

1984
02:05:12,800 --> 02:05:15,720
bands in the last decade. Isaac
the drummer of this band. He drums

1985
02:05:15,760 --> 02:05:19,079
in Blood Incantation. Several of them
are in the excellent, much more fantastical

1986
02:05:19,119 --> 02:05:24,640
black metal band storm Keep. Maybe
this is kind of the surface level perspective

1987
02:05:24,680 --> 02:05:27,800
of like a British outsider in the
image that I might have, but Wayfairer

1988
02:05:27,880 --> 02:05:31,159
feel the most Denver Colorado in the
music that they make, right Like,

1989
02:05:31,239 --> 02:05:36,760
their music is steeped in American history, Americana musical influence, and when you

1990
02:05:36,800 --> 02:05:41,119
think about Colorado, that image of
the American West, the frontier, the

1991
02:05:41,439 --> 02:05:45,680
rocky mountains, Wayfairer feel like they're
in a lineage not just with those other

1992
02:05:45,760 --> 02:05:47,600
Denver bands who have kind of popped
up at the same time, but a

1993
02:05:47,760 --> 02:05:53,359
much longer history of kind of American
art dealing with that subject, right Like,

1994
02:05:53,479 --> 02:05:57,640
I can't think of many bands in
metal right now who are this adept

1995
02:05:58,000 --> 02:06:01,439
at creating such a specific world and
image to explore through their music. And

1996
02:06:01,520 --> 02:06:04,800
they have, like again, over
a series of records. Every element from

1997
02:06:04,880 --> 02:06:08,720
the esthetic to the titles, to
the instruments that are used, in the

1998
02:06:08,760 --> 02:06:12,399
style of which they are played,
it all feeds into this synergy. And

1999
02:06:12,520 --> 02:06:14,800
here they've gone, like I said, American Gothic. This is a black

2000
02:06:14,880 --> 02:06:19,159
metal record that brings in gothic country
and dark Americana completely into this like fully

2001
02:06:19,439 --> 02:06:25,239
living, breathing world. I joking
my nerves was like yeeha, black metal,

2002
02:06:25,720 --> 02:06:30,600
but absolutely it is. But I'm
also like, yeah, but they

2003
02:06:30,720 --> 02:06:35,239
clearly are going for this so distinct, like this is Western cowboy, like

2004
02:06:35,319 --> 02:06:39,800
a vote going in all in the
history of the West and really kind of

2005
02:06:39,960 --> 02:06:43,560
kinds up that and like because mean
by so much it is about the storytelling

2006
02:06:43,640 --> 02:06:47,359
and the fantastic aspects and that's kind
of applying that to like say, the

2007
02:06:47,439 --> 02:06:51,560
sort of American West and the kind
of the change of that. And I've

2008
02:06:51,560 --> 02:06:55,960
found this I'm not like totally like, oh my god, this is amazing

2009
02:06:56,640 --> 02:07:00,800
it, but I found this just
super interesting and captivating that I feel like

2010
02:07:00,520 --> 02:07:04,000
sticking with it and then maybe checking
out some more of their stuff will yield

2011
02:07:04,119 --> 02:07:09,119
more rewards for me. Yeah,
I think, like you say, the

2012
02:07:09,199 --> 02:07:13,359
cowboy thing, I think, will
it either draw you in or put you

2013
02:07:13,479 --> 02:07:15,720
off? And they go that was
a selling point for me. Absolutely,

2014
02:07:16,159 --> 02:07:20,039
yeah, sure, And to me, I think it's again, I don't

2015
02:07:20,039 --> 02:07:23,640
know what the rules are. Cowboys
are cooled, pirates aren't. It's it's

2016
02:07:23,840 --> 02:07:28,159
it's not our fault. But something
about cowboy black metal, like you said,

2017
02:07:28,199 --> 02:07:30,479
it sounds weird. It's the outlaw
thing. Well, that's it.

2018
02:07:30,680 --> 02:07:34,560
And again, when you think of
like American folk and that sort of thing

2019
02:07:34,840 --> 02:07:39,560
partner with black metal. You might
think, oh, like Panopticon, but's

2020
02:07:39,560 --> 02:07:42,720
got this more like Mountain Man alone
in the wilderness feeling. But this has

2021
02:07:43,079 --> 02:07:45,600
a sort of drama and swagger to
it, and it's not a cowboy like

2022
02:07:45,840 --> 02:07:48,680
Rawhide or hang Him High or something
like that. It's like there will be

2023
02:07:48,720 --> 02:07:54,920
blood. It's that kind of dark, sinister frontiers and almost like if Tribulation

2024
02:07:55,039 --> 02:08:03,199
were more interested in you know,
Cacti than venice I, I can like,

2025
02:08:03,319 --> 02:08:07,399
you know, align myself very much
with again in the kind of circles

2026
02:08:07,399 --> 02:08:09,560
where this swims in. It has
been super, super praised. I think

2027
02:08:09,600 --> 02:08:13,279
this is one of the very best
metal records of this year. Like it's

2028
02:08:13,319 --> 02:08:18,720
going to be high flying, it's
fucking fantastic. This everything because again,

2029
02:08:18,720 --> 02:08:22,039
I've been a big fan over their
last couple of records, increasingly kind of

2030
02:08:22,079 --> 02:08:26,399
realizing that they had something special going
on. And I think it's so obvious

2031
02:08:26,439 --> 02:08:28,439
that everyone has kind of realized now, like shit, yeah, everything that

2032
02:08:28,479 --> 02:08:31,520
they be building is like fully,
it's all there, you know, And

2033
02:08:31,960 --> 02:08:37,720
the slide guitar, for example,
one element right, it's it's a crucial

2034
02:08:37,840 --> 02:08:41,359
feature of their sound. It's not
just oh, they've whapped this in there,

2035
02:08:41,439 --> 02:08:45,680
right. Their rifts feel like slide
guitar riffs like and I'm when that

2036
02:08:46,159 --> 02:08:48,920
sound is used to create darkness and
tension, I'm a real sucker for it,

2037
02:08:48,960 --> 02:08:52,039
the way that kind of like slightly
clanging, like clean but with a

2038
02:08:52,119 --> 02:08:56,479
harshness. Still the guitar passages in
like the thousand Tombs of Western promise how

2039
02:08:56,560 --> 02:09:01,880
it works there, but then it
continues to bleed into even the more distorted

2040
02:09:01,960 --> 02:09:05,239
metallic riffing that they do. They
still have that sort of slading kind of

2041
02:09:05,279 --> 02:09:09,399
effect. They have such an identifiable
way now of like writing and performing these

2042
02:09:09,479 --> 02:09:13,880
rifts. It's like the stuff that
they've been consuming and they've immersed themselves in

2043
02:09:13,119 --> 02:09:18,359
has now fully like bled into the
way they write and arrange metal songs.

2044
02:09:18,399 --> 02:09:20,720
And I find it transfixing. I
mean, I totally agree with that point

2045
02:09:20,760 --> 02:09:24,760
that I never felt like again,
I'm just like, oh, that's that's

2046
02:09:24,880 --> 02:09:28,439
the black metal tremlo riff that like
every band will play there. They never

2047
02:09:28,520 --> 02:09:31,079
kind of feels like it's tacking that
because they're always channeling it through that Western

2048
02:09:31,119 --> 02:09:33,159
thing, and like I say,
like I love the bit, so they

2049
02:09:33,239 --> 02:09:37,800
just go purely on the slide guitar, like the opening two thousand Tombs of

2050
02:09:37,880 --> 02:09:43,119
Western Promises. I'm like that immediately
kind of like caught my attention. And

2051
02:09:43,159 --> 02:09:46,039
then how they how they do still
mix that with a more metallic approach.

2052
02:09:46,199 --> 02:09:50,960
It feels like, I say,
an actual integral part of the sound and

2053
02:09:50,039 --> 02:09:54,439
not attacked on kind of gimmicky instrument
that they've gone, we'll just do a

2054
02:09:54,479 --> 02:09:56,159
bit of slide guitar here. Yeah, And it's complement in the fact it's

2055
02:09:56,199 --> 02:10:00,880
one of the best production jobs you
will ever hear black metal record, right,

2056
02:10:00,960 --> 02:10:01,720
Like I think it's Arthur Rizik who
they've done it with, and it

2057
02:10:01,800 --> 02:10:07,840
just it sounds gorgeous. It's thick, right, it has base. Everything

2058
02:10:07,920 --> 02:10:09,760
pops in your headphones, but you
never question it being kind of you know

2059
02:10:09,840 --> 02:10:13,960
black metal or of the Earth or
whatever. And the imagery that they create

2060
02:10:15,039 --> 02:10:16,399
with that, like it's again,
it's almost like a tale that's unfolded over

2061
02:10:16,439 --> 02:10:20,119
their records at this point, because
there is so much about specifically, you

2062
02:10:20,199 --> 02:10:24,319
know, the transition of the American
West as this idea of you know,

2063
02:10:26,279 --> 02:10:31,800
cowboys and horses and those kind of
wide open spaces moving into industry and capitalism

2064
02:10:31,920 --> 02:10:35,880
really kind of tightening its fist around
around the area. And that's what so

2065
02:10:35,960 --> 02:10:37,560
many those great many Westerns do,
right, And that's what you're saying,

2066
02:10:37,600 --> 02:10:41,039
you know, the kind of the
Sergio Leoni Corbucci Westerns or whatever. They

2067
02:10:41,279 --> 02:10:45,439
a lot of them deal with the
kind of passage of like one state into

2068
02:10:45,520 --> 02:10:48,159
the other and how that then kind
of sets the stage for the world we

2069
02:10:48,239 --> 02:10:50,840
have today. That's what Wayfair are
really go in for, I think,

2070
02:10:50,880 --> 02:10:52,279
and that their last album, you
know, that had kind of all the

2071
02:10:52,319 --> 02:10:56,800
songs about kind of the arrival of
the railways and kind of industrialization, you

2072
02:10:56,840 --> 02:10:58,960
know, the Eyron Horse. Going
back to World's Blood Now, which is

2073
02:11:00,000 --> 02:11:03,039
two records ago, that feels so
much more kind of dusty and ghostly,

2074
02:11:03,119 --> 02:11:05,840
but almost like unspoiled, right,
Like it was like that record is almost

2075
02:11:05,880 --> 02:11:09,359
like just natural landscape. And this
record they've described it as being like a

2076
02:11:09,399 --> 02:11:13,039
funeral for the American dream, right, it's like set in the kind of

2077
02:11:13,359 --> 02:11:16,199
you know, around the ideas of
the kind of the early twentieth century when

2078
02:11:16,239 --> 02:11:18,119
I guess those institutions that we have
today, and that sort of fate becomes

2079
02:11:18,159 --> 02:11:24,560
maybe slightly unavoidable because I remember when
the last Roper came out. I said

2080
02:11:24,600 --> 02:11:26,279
something along the lines of like,
they write black metal passages to soundtrack the

2081
02:11:26,359 --> 02:11:30,039
huge oil fire scenes and there will
be blood. This came out like the

2082
02:11:30,119 --> 02:11:33,399
week after Killers of the flower movie, which I yeah, I was like,

2083
02:11:33,720 --> 02:11:35,720
oh my god, that could have
just been on the Killers of the

2084
02:11:35,760 --> 02:11:39,600
Flowering soundtrack. It feels like I've
had both of the things swirling around in

2085
02:11:39,600 --> 02:11:43,000
my head at the same time.
That scene of them dancing underneath the oil

2086
02:11:43,000 --> 02:11:46,760
wrapping from the ground, I'm like, that was just in my head during

2087
02:11:46,840 --> 02:11:50,119
that soon. I was like,
great synergy on that one. They there,

2088
02:11:50,159 --> 02:11:54,239
but they really did. But it's
that level of like thought and the

2089
02:11:54,359 --> 02:11:56,439
ideas that stop it being just like, oh, some gimmick band, right,

2090
02:11:56,479 --> 02:11:58,720
oh, you know the cowboy blackmotband. Theyre gonna get their bandoes,

2091
02:11:58,760 --> 02:12:03,000
like what and you can mosh to
it. It's you know, they the

2092
02:12:03,079 --> 02:12:05,159
sonic experiment. Parentation is valid in
itself, but the way, like a

2093
02:12:05,239 --> 02:12:09,479
lot of people might be prone to
for any metal band that experience with sounds

2094
02:12:09,520 --> 02:12:11,920
outside of that comfort zone, you
know, they're drawing in from a specific

2095
02:12:11,960 --> 02:12:16,000
point in time or theme or whatever. View it like that they are really

2096
02:12:16,039 --> 02:12:18,000
fucking doing something with it. Like
they know their shit. They're engaging with

2097
02:12:18,119 --> 02:12:22,640
history, and they are creating something
specific and artful that is, you know,

2098
02:12:22,079 --> 02:12:26,399
relevant now. And I think the
overall package of what they've done on

2099
02:12:26,920 --> 02:12:31,239
this is one of the most it's
a great you know, the next recor

2100
02:12:31,239 --> 02:12:33,840
we're going to do kind of has
a really you know, a consistent sort

2101
02:12:33,880 --> 02:12:37,159
of through line to it as well. But for me, this is just

2102
02:12:37,239 --> 02:12:39,920
like absolutely, I can live in
this record for fucking hours and hours at

2103
02:12:39,960 --> 02:12:45,880
a time. I was just flawed
by how they want to marry the two

2104
02:12:45,960 --> 02:12:48,760
ideas, and again, thinking about
it now, it doesn't seem too like

2105
02:12:50,119 --> 02:12:54,960
un obvious because what a lot of
the great black metal has is this kind

2106
02:12:54,039 --> 02:12:58,479
of feeling like it's always existed,
kind of like the way great folk music

2107
02:12:58,640 --> 02:13:01,720
feels like it there's no who wrote
it, it just it just is.

2108
02:13:01,720 --> 02:13:07,000
And that kind of like you say, mourning for the natural world. As

2109
02:13:07,119 --> 02:13:11,720
these oil rigs are going up,
you can see how black metal could be

2110
02:13:13,000 --> 02:13:16,079
the vehicle for that sort of thing. And yeah, I get in the

2111
02:13:16,159 --> 02:13:20,720
songwriting songs like the Cattle Thief and
Reef on the Oil Fields, the way

2112
02:13:20,800 --> 02:13:24,199
they swing and sway rather than stomping
or striving like black metal tends to it

2113
02:13:24,319 --> 02:13:28,279
kind of lurches like it's got saddle
saw and it's like they could have put

2114
02:13:28,359 --> 02:13:31,199
that in a more traditional black metal
tempo and it would have been fine,

2115
02:13:33,079 --> 02:13:37,359
but just moving the tempos slightly and
you're in that zone. And again those

2116
02:13:37,439 --> 02:13:45,079
refrains with the where the steel guitar
kind of bleeds into the distorted riff and

2117
02:13:45,199 --> 02:13:50,960
it kind of has this two pronged
attack or effect of both making you go,

2118
02:13:50,079 --> 02:13:52,760
wow, I can't believe they've done
that, and also going these two

2119
02:13:52,800 --> 02:13:58,359
things aren't too dissimilar, like,
yeah, natural bedfellows, Like the Cattle

2120
02:13:58,399 --> 02:14:00,920
Thief is the longest track, it's
nine min it's long, and it is

2121
02:14:01,000 --> 02:14:03,920
just like this constant stream of like
incredible guitar work, double bass drums that

2122
02:14:05,000 --> 02:14:07,520
sound like staggeringly powerful, but it's
not that kind of will Putney thing of

2123
02:14:07,600 --> 02:14:11,279
just sound like a wind turbine.
It's like blowing your you know, your

2124
02:14:11,359 --> 02:14:15,520
your speakers in. This is more
like you know, propulsion of fucking thousands

2125
02:14:15,560 --> 02:14:18,279
of horse hoofs. Right, it's
kind of and it feels that you are

2126
02:14:18,560 --> 02:14:22,600
constantly moving forward into different you know, you know locations, and one of

2127
02:14:22,680 --> 02:14:26,720
you use the word drama to describe
this, which is absolutely what so much

2128
02:14:26,760 --> 02:14:28,800
of it is. Right. The
lead rift in to Enter My House Justified

2129
02:14:30,199 --> 02:14:35,319
is so anthemic. There's no shrinking
violet, hide the rift behind the wall

2130
02:14:35,319 --> 02:14:37,560
of tinpot distortion or anything like that
going on here. That's an immediately catchy

2131
02:14:37,600 --> 02:14:41,119
fifth in the air, powerful bit
of heavy metal there, and they evolve

2132
02:14:41,199 --> 02:14:46,199
it and they put these kind of
extra flourishes and these little drum double bassed

2133
02:14:46,239 --> 02:14:48,399
drum rolls and stuff. Yeah,
and it brings a heavy metal tear to

2134
02:14:48,439 --> 02:14:52,319
my eye, you know. It's
such a powerful bit of you know,

2135
02:14:52,479 --> 02:14:54,199
musical storytelling. I mean, like
send to My House just fine. That

2136
02:14:54,239 --> 02:14:58,399
feels that almost like the most traditionally
black metal moment on the album for a

2137
02:14:58,439 --> 02:15:03,640
lot of things. But it's still
again, it's got so much more going

2138
02:15:03,720 --> 02:15:07,880
on in the ideas and the storytelling
and the world building that I do.

2139
02:15:07,079 --> 02:15:11,399
Again, this is just a really
immersive album, Like we're going back to

2140
02:15:11,439 --> 02:15:15,880
like the Calfief. When you get
that middle section where you get those clean,

2141
02:15:16,039 --> 02:15:18,520
chanting vocals, it just it's just
a the rest to that drouge winn

2142
02:15:18,560 --> 02:15:24,079
and it feels like it's never just
settling on one idea or just tacking something

2143
02:15:24,119 --> 02:15:28,439
in as as kind of like a
gimmick. It's all really carefully fought out

2144
02:15:28,479 --> 02:15:33,600
in place within these songs to to
take you on the journey the album intense.

2145
02:15:33,479 --> 02:15:35,760
I do find this a little bit
front loaded. This album is that

2146
02:15:35,880 --> 02:15:43,720
my one kind of right is.
I think False Constellation is a really good

2147
02:15:43,800 --> 02:15:48,119
closer, but I like it's like
after Tay to My House Justified, there's

2148
02:15:48,159 --> 02:15:52,640
that to that bit where I feel
like it doesn't quite hit the highs of

2149
02:15:52,760 --> 02:15:58,439
the I think it's because those first
two tracks are spectacular and and Reap and

2150
02:15:58,479 --> 02:16:03,000
oil Fields being it's like really goly
haunting kind of like moment that follows.

2151
02:16:03,079 --> 02:16:07,239
It's such a makes such a good
first impression that the back half of the

2152
02:16:07,279 --> 02:16:09,279
ALBM hasn't quite won me over in
the same way. Yet that's just me

2153
02:16:09,520 --> 02:16:11,960
again, I said before, I
need to live with this album a bit

2154
02:16:13,000 --> 02:16:16,960
more and wayfair in general. But
if I had to be like my one

2155
02:16:16,960 --> 02:16:20,159
little nigga, I say feel was
a little bit front heavy. I love

2156
02:16:20,479 --> 02:16:24,760
High Planes Eulogy that is one of
the best songs on the record. Fel

2157
02:16:24,800 --> 02:16:28,600
like just this yearning neo folk ballad. It almost sounds like low, which

2158
02:16:28,319 --> 02:16:33,120
isn't a turn I was expecting when
this record came in, But it's a

2159
02:16:33,200 --> 02:16:35,280
fantastic It's a stop gap without feeling
like a stopgap. And these are the

2160
02:16:35,360 --> 02:16:39,600
sort of things where a lesser band
might fall down because it's like I always

2161
02:16:39,600 --> 02:16:43,360
probably put something else here and you
know, switch it up, and it

2162
02:16:43,440 --> 02:16:46,440
ends up just sort of being a
cool idea of a lesser quality. But

2163
02:16:46,440 --> 02:16:48,760
I think it's one of the best
written songs. And it's interesting that you

2164
02:16:48,799 --> 02:16:50,879
said to end of My House Justified
is the most black metal, because for

2165
02:16:50,959 --> 02:16:54,040
me, is that all black plumes
of God's Country, those like the two

2166
02:16:54,079 --> 02:16:58,760
that feel like yeah. But I
think the most black metal moment would be

2167
02:16:58,879 --> 02:17:05,040
on on False Constellation, because that
is maybe the only time where they drift

2168
02:17:05,120 --> 02:17:07,879
into that. I'm not gonna say
it's kumicky because it isn't, but that

2169
02:17:07,000 --> 02:17:11,079
thing which goes in your head when
you hear Cowboy black metal, because that

2170
02:17:11,239 --> 02:17:16,399
riff that the first half of the
song at least hinges on sounds like sort

2171
02:17:16,399 --> 02:17:20,479
of a classic im Mortal song,
But then that rusty saloon bar piano melody

2172
02:17:20,760 --> 02:17:22,760
comes in, and again in Prinson, we think, how would those two

2173
02:17:22,840 --> 02:17:28,760
things gel, but I think it's
exceptional. I don't think this record,

2174
02:17:28,959 --> 02:17:33,520
I'm not you know, I can't. I can't agree that this record dips

2175
02:17:33,520 --> 02:17:37,120
at the end. I think as
a body of work, it's pretty consistent.

2176
02:17:37,200 --> 02:17:41,200
Yeah, Like for me, like
High plays Eulogy. Yeah, we

2177
02:17:41,360 --> 02:17:46,760
entered the track Reaper on the Oil
Fields, which you know, you wouldn't

2178
02:17:46,760 --> 02:17:48,120
say the Black Nettal song, right, Like, that's a pure kind of

2179
02:17:48,200 --> 02:17:52,600
gothic country song. And again they're
they're drawing on this lineage of bands kind

2180
02:17:52,600 --> 02:17:56,200
of in the region around them,
you know, bands like sixteen horse Power

2181
02:17:56,239 --> 02:17:58,319
and all this kind of stuff that
have done that kind of you know,

2182
02:17:58,639 --> 02:18:03,879
that kind of folk music and so
on that just exists very much kind of

2183
02:18:03,920 --> 02:18:07,840
as part of that point in time
and that point in space, but that

2184
02:18:07,000 --> 02:18:11,840
somehow on that song they've given that
the same kind of distortion and edge the

2185
02:18:11,920 --> 02:18:13,120
rest of the record has, so
it doesn't feel like a deviation, right,

2186
02:18:13,280 --> 02:18:16,479
It's so haunting and the like they
almost do that kind of you know,

2187
02:18:16,760 --> 02:18:18,879
singing through a megaphone thing, which
can be a bit cliche, but

2188
02:18:20,079 --> 02:18:22,680
when bands do it appropriately and create
that kind of like contorting, uncanny,

2189
02:18:22,840 --> 02:18:26,840
droning kind of sound, like Chelsea
Wolf's somebody who's done it really brilliantly at

2190
02:18:26,840 --> 02:18:30,280
times as well, it feels,
you know, like a Reaper on the

2191
02:18:30,319 --> 02:18:33,399
oil Fields. You know, they've
got that kind of knack for pairing a

2192
02:18:33,479 --> 02:18:35,159
sound just a perfect title, so
well you can go, what does this

2193
02:18:35,200 --> 02:18:39,760
album sound like? Oh, black
plumes over God's Country is what it sounds

2194
02:18:39,840 --> 02:18:43,399
like. But High plays Eulogy as
a contrast, because Reap on the Oil

2195
02:18:43,440 --> 02:18:48,920
Fields is really distorted and ghostly,
and it's this is more immediately conveyable as

2196
02:18:50,000 --> 02:18:52,879
like the more mournful one, and
it's you know, like that that sorrowful

2197
02:18:54,000 --> 02:18:56,280
kind of enduring question of you know, kind of we we've overridden our environment

2198
02:18:56,319 --> 02:18:58,719
to create this kind of new industrial
world, you know, and that goes

2199
02:18:58,799 --> 02:19:01,760
on was it worth it? You
know? And the melodies are so strong

2200
02:19:03,120 --> 02:19:05,600
and you've got the organ and that
that's one of the most beautiful songs I've

2201
02:19:05,600 --> 02:19:07,520
heard this year, and I think, like lyrically, this band are quickly

2202
02:19:07,559 --> 02:19:11,680
becoming like one of my absolute favorites
working you know today, Like I mean,

2203
02:19:11,920 --> 02:19:13,079
these planes will make for your shallow
grave. They'll wrap you in a

2204
02:19:13,159 --> 02:19:16,959
flag and forget your name in Reaper
on the Oilfields is so good. But

2205
02:19:16,920 --> 02:19:20,360
the way they perfectly match up with
the drama and the music right like to

2206
02:19:20,479 --> 02:19:26,319
enter My House, Justified creates that
image of you know, a rider almost

2207
02:19:26,360 --> 02:19:28,239
being like physically chased down by like, you know, this new time and

2208
02:19:28,319 --> 02:19:31,440
this new age that you know arrives
and kind of overcomes them, and that's

2209
02:19:31,440 --> 02:19:33,799
what we're talking about, the kind
of transition between one state to the other.

2210
02:19:35,200 --> 02:19:37,600
And they've brought in these clean vocals, which they've really elaborated on this

2211
02:19:37,680 --> 02:19:41,079
record from those styles again kind of
Gothic country and so on, and they're

2212
02:19:41,079 --> 02:19:45,719
these really low, kind of gothy
masculine tones, and they are like these

2213
02:19:45,760 --> 02:19:50,200
kind of ghostly moans, kind of
reverberating over the planes from this lost world

2214
02:19:50,239 --> 02:19:56,000
that doesn't exist anymore. And I
think the way they so naturally bring this

2215
02:19:56,079 --> 02:20:01,000
things together is epitomized by what Elliott
was just saying about the the closing track,

2216
02:20:01,079 --> 02:20:05,239
False Constellation is the rare kind of
black metal that doesn't feel like any

2217
02:20:05,280 --> 02:20:09,239
other band on Earth could written it. Like. False Constellation has those heavy,

2218
02:20:09,440 --> 02:20:13,559
twanging, slide guitar influenced takes on, as Edit says, like an

2219
02:20:13,559 --> 02:20:18,040
immortal riff or something, and puts
in that piano line, which there must

2220
02:20:18,079 --> 02:20:20,360
be a specific name for it.
I plead ignorance because you know, I've

2221
02:20:20,600 --> 02:20:22,360
never been to the West of America, but that specific tone of piano that

2222
02:20:22,399 --> 02:20:24,319
sounds like you've walked into a saloon, right yeah, And I know,

2223
02:20:26,000 --> 02:20:28,920
the dusty, clinky kind of thing. And the use of that to carry

2224
02:20:28,959 --> 02:20:35,680
that main melody on that guitar riff
is fucking sensational. And again it launches

2225
02:20:35,719 --> 02:20:39,159
into all of this like double bass
and everything, but it's the that etherial

2226
02:20:39,280 --> 02:20:43,040
you know, high planes, clean
vocal that carries that entire song and grabs

2227
02:20:43,040 --> 02:20:46,559
the ear. And they've just fully
like those things. They are completely embedded

2228
02:20:46,559 --> 02:20:48,559
within each other's worlds at that point. I mean, I do really like

2229
02:20:48,600 --> 02:20:52,479
oh hu on that closes where it's
like, even when it's blasting, it's

2230
02:20:52,559 --> 02:20:56,639
kind of got this like hazy,
like like say it fear kind of thing

2231
02:20:56,719 --> 02:21:01,440
over which it feels never feels actually
intense. And even when musically it is

2232
02:21:01,479 --> 02:21:05,479
the most intense they're playing, it's
a weird kind of like balancing act of

2233
02:21:05,600 --> 02:21:07,719
doing that about it, kind of
overriding the atmosphere of the song. And

2234
02:21:07,719 --> 02:21:11,159
I think that that's the stuff that
I'm like, Yeah, that's where you

2235
02:21:11,159 --> 02:21:13,959
can just tell the craft and kind
of care they've put in balancing these aspects

2236
02:21:15,000 --> 02:21:18,360
and not betraying the different elements of
their songs worked really well. Yeah,

2237
02:21:18,440 --> 02:21:22,399
it's a tremendously powerful album. I
think that they are so clearly confident now

2238
02:21:22,559 --> 02:21:26,959
in their kind of their statement,
what they're trying to do, their execution

2239
02:21:26,120 --> 02:21:28,760
of it, all the different things
they've drawn together for this, there's no

2240
02:21:30,000 --> 02:21:33,399
visible edges. It has this just
lingering, you know, haunting kind of

2241
02:21:33,559 --> 02:21:39,200
death and sorrow. But because it
sounds so fucking good, I just find

2242
02:21:39,239 --> 02:21:46,440
it an absolute pleasure to listen to. Yeah. I mean this was a

2243
02:21:46,520 --> 02:21:50,319
real blindsiding one because, like I
say, i'd heard some hyper around Wayfair

2244
02:21:50,399 --> 02:21:54,479
before this, so I new people
that like them, and I just I

2245
02:21:54,520 --> 02:21:56,639
didn't know they were capable of this. I might have to go back and

2246
02:21:56,959 --> 02:22:01,360
revisit some of those other records because
this is really really exceptional. Yeah.

2247
02:22:01,440 --> 02:22:07,799
The last three albums are like a
three album curve of them, like finding

2248
02:22:07,879 --> 02:22:11,680
what their sound is gonna be and
then properly like you know, building building

2249
02:22:11,719 --> 02:22:15,840
that tower from the ground up and
really really nailing it is, and you

2250
02:22:15,879 --> 02:22:18,399
know it's been a wonderful journey to
go on, but having this now as

2251
02:22:18,520 --> 02:22:20,719
like again the moment where it seems
to have gone ah for everybody and everyone's

2252
02:22:20,760 --> 02:22:24,840
like gets it. It's really is. It's one of it for you know,

2253
02:22:24,959 --> 02:22:26,639
kind of more underground metal or whatever. But I guess in general,

2254
02:22:26,719 --> 02:22:31,840
I think it is one of the
standout records of this entire year, speaking

2255
02:22:33,000 --> 02:22:37,159
of I guess being haunted by industrialization. Let us jump to a band in

2256
02:22:37,200 --> 02:22:41,120
the UK. It's weirdly specific,
isn't it, under Dark As our next

2257
02:22:41,159 --> 02:22:46,319
band, they are releasing their second
album, Managed Decline. This actually is

2258
02:22:46,360 --> 02:22:48,000
a late one. Like a lot
of the records we're doing here, we're

2259
02:22:48,000 --> 02:22:50,200
pulling from the kind of last couple
of busy weeks, but this one is

2260
02:22:50,239 --> 02:22:52,680
out today. I thought it was
appropriate. We are talking about a few

2261
02:22:52,799 --> 02:22:58,159
really great and you know, character
full extreme metal releases from different parts of

2262
02:22:58,200 --> 02:23:01,399
the globe in this episode, which
check in on something that is going on

2263
02:23:01,479 --> 02:23:03,760
in the UK as well. I
will say that if the albums either side

2264
02:23:03,799 --> 02:23:09,200
of this one in particular in this
episode are pulling from very specific worlds and

2265
02:23:09,399 --> 02:23:13,760
themes and so on, sonically,
this is one that I think if some

2266
02:23:13,879 --> 02:23:16,840
people do find some of those elements
off putting. Might be a little bit

2267
02:23:16,879 --> 02:23:20,239
more easy to go down because this
is a band doing, you know,

2268
02:23:20,280 --> 02:23:22,360
a kind of a post black metal
sound, and from record to record they've

2269
02:23:22,440 --> 02:23:26,079
kind of increased the scope of what
they can do with that. I thought

2270
02:23:26,120 --> 02:23:28,239
the first Underdark full length from a
couple of years ago was decent. It

2271
02:23:28,319 --> 02:23:31,520
had a cool mix of kind of
scream out elements and so on into a

2272
02:23:31,600 --> 02:23:35,680
kind of black metal mix. Maybe
isn't immediately the most geared towards me,

2273
02:23:35,760 --> 02:23:37,799
but it was decently well done.
This one, I feel, has pushed

2274
02:23:37,840 --> 02:23:41,319
the sound further to the point where
again we can start really going. You

2275
02:23:41,360 --> 02:23:46,000
should really check this one out,
I think, I mean of like the

2276
02:23:46,120 --> 02:23:48,079
kind of free black metal albums you've
put in us out the closing one of

2277
02:23:48,120 --> 02:23:50,840
the few years episode, this is
by far my favorite of the bunch.

2278
02:23:52,000 --> 02:23:54,000
This is what I'm saying. This
is the one where like it's the most

2279
02:23:54,079 --> 02:23:56,159
geared to me of it hits directly
Yeah, yeah, because it is.

2280
02:23:56,319 --> 02:24:00,079
Again I'm always more in tune for
that postbat metal stuff like that, the

2281
02:24:00,120 --> 02:24:03,559
prettier moments, the kind of more
I say that that that sort of Screamo

2282
02:24:03,639 --> 02:24:09,760
being the narrative, having the I
appreciate you getting the lyrics sent to this

2283
02:24:09,840 --> 02:24:11,600
one because having that and being able
to kind of go along with it that

2284
02:24:11,799 --> 02:24:16,639
does enhance experiences record because there is
a story that flows for it. But

2285
02:24:16,600 --> 02:24:20,520
everything about this just really tapped into
things and like, oh god, yeah,

2286
02:24:20,559 --> 02:24:22,600
this is what I really like on
the sort of the more black extreme

2287
02:24:22,680 --> 02:24:26,440
metal front. Yeah, this album
is even more than the Wayfarer one.

2288
02:24:26,479 --> 02:24:28,200
It's a direct concept album. You
can see all these dates in the song

2289
02:24:28,280 --> 02:24:33,200
titles. It is a record about
a being in an industrial town in England

2290
02:24:33,559 --> 02:24:37,319
and the long term kind of downward
spiral of sort of you know, life

2291
02:24:37,360 --> 02:24:41,319
and opportunity just kind of falling away
from a place like that. The record

2292
02:24:41,399 --> 02:24:43,159
begins, you know, kind of
around the time of a Thatcher, and

2293
02:24:43,239 --> 02:24:48,360
then it traces the general gutting of
a place like that and how that reaches

2294
02:24:48,399 --> 02:24:50,360
into the present day and affects people
who might not even be born at the

2295
02:24:50,360 --> 02:24:54,639
start of this record. And there's
you know, there's a transitionary track later

2296
02:24:54,719 --> 02:24:56,959
on called Race for a World that
no longer exists. That kind of thing

2297
02:24:56,319 --> 02:24:58,079
another reason why I thought it was
approped to do this was you know,

2298
02:24:58,159 --> 02:25:01,680
we spoke so heavily about when we
got the news at dawn Raid and called

2299
02:25:01,680 --> 02:25:05,719
it quits a couple months ago.
These are some of the bands that are

2300
02:25:05,760 --> 02:25:09,440
kind of, you know, continuing
carrying that particular kind of torch forward.

2301
02:25:09,799 --> 02:25:15,239
There's obviously a lot of kinship with
Ashen Spires Hostile Architecture record there spiritually Panopticon's

2302
02:25:15,319 --> 02:25:18,000
Kentucky. You can bring in,
even if you will, the likes of

2303
02:25:18,040 --> 02:25:20,680
Wildlife by a Loud Dispute. Yeah, no, I like I Again,

2304
02:25:20,879 --> 02:25:24,959
that's where this does tap into more
more my sort of thing is I can

2305
02:25:26,120 --> 02:25:31,479
see the link to that. This
is just the horrifying black metal version of

2306
02:25:31,520 --> 02:25:33,200
it based, isn't it. But
you know, you're, you're, you're

2307
02:25:33,200 --> 02:25:35,719
following like a lot of characters in
one town over the years and how the

2308
02:25:35,760 --> 02:25:39,360
conditions affect them this kind of town, and you know, the experiences of

2309
02:25:39,440 --> 02:25:41,159
you know, leaving one like I
spent my school years in a mining town

2310
02:25:41,200 --> 02:25:45,559
in Cornwall, which is achingly familiar
to a lot of what is described on

2311
02:25:45,639 --> 02:25:48,760
this record, like the way there
is this sort of heritage celebration in a

2312
02:25:48,799 --> 02:25:52,159
place like that of a history that
is gone and nothing really came in to

2313
02:25:52,239 --> 02:25:56,319
replace it, so it was just
empty. I think conceptually and narratively,

2314
02:25:56,440 --> 02:26:01,280
this is a really powerful record like
up there with the Way Fairer one that

2315
02:26:01,360 --> 02:26:03,319
obviously that requires like a lot of
attention reading along as you're doing it,

2316
02:26:03,399 --> 02:26:09,200
because it's you know, the lyrics
on this when we were referring to those

2317
02:26:09,280 --> 02:26:11,799
moments, it's not fun that you're
going to pick up just from hearing the

2318
02:26:11,920 --> 02:26:18,920
vocals at the start are almost like
completely unintelligible as as a sonic experience,

2319
02:26:18,000 --> 02:26:20,760
though, first and foremost is what
I think records like this should be judged

2320
02:26:20,799 --> 02:26:24,319
on, because the concept, I
guess could fall into the back without a

2321
02:26:24,399 --> 02:26:28,079
lyrics she and just you know,
acts as an inform of where the music

2322
02:26:28,120 --> 02:26:31,360
should go, which is valid in
itself. But that's I think again one

2323
02:26:31,360 --> 02:26:33,719
of the things that they've stepped up
on this, Like there is a clear

2324
02:26:33,280 --> 02:26:37,840
emotional register of what they are aiming
to do and what to evoke, and

2325
02:26:37,959 --> 02:26:41,840
I think their songwriting has progressed pretty
encouraging. I really do like this record.

2326
02:26:41,399 --> 02:26:43,959
Yeah, I mean, I think
this is very good. I mean,

2327
02:26:45,120 --> 02:26:46,559
like you, I heard the last
record around the time it came out,

2328
02:26:46,639 --> 02:26:50,520
and I thought it was pretty cool, but I didn't go back to

2329
02:26:50,520 --> 02:26:54,440
it all that much. Once I
kind of started to get the glean of

2330
02:26:54,479 --> 02:26:56,479
what this concept was and what the
band were doing this time around, it

2331
02:26:56,520 --> 02:27:00,159
became very interesting. I mean to
be honest, post Blackmail of this kind

2332
02:27:00,200 --> 02:27:05,079
of punch your tighter variety isn't necessarily
my bag when it comes to black metal,

2333
02:27:07,520 --> 02:27:13,959
but I kind of like how they
take that style which can occasionally feel

2334
02:27:13,000 --> 02:27:18,239
a bit I wouldn't say soulless,
but maybe lacking in fury, and they

2335
02:27:20,159 --> 02:27:24,360
fill it with fury. Because I
understand what you're saying about how you need

2336
02:27:24,399 --> 02:27:28,079
the lyrics to really get the story, because like you say, it's not

2337
02:27:28,159 --> 02:27:33,000
really intelligible, it doesn't inform the
music all that much. I think where

2338
02:27:33,040 --> 02:27:37,799
it does inform the music is in
the ferocious performance. Yeah. I mean,

2339
02:27:37,239 --> 02:27:41,479
they know what they are going for
as a band and what emotion they

2340
02:27:41,520 --> 02:27:46,520
are trying to evoke, and they
do obviously is that guided the songs to

2341
02:27:46,559 --> 02:27:52,680
the points they're at, and they
do have this ability to just cast a

2342
02:27:52,799 --> 02:27:56,680
powerful emotional mood from the get go. You know, Manage to Climb part

2343
02:27:56,719 --> 02:28:01,280
one. The first riff just has
this yearning weight and do in it and

2344
02:28:01,120 --> 02:28:03,120
I love that. I love what
they do that. I love you know,

2345
02:28:03,159 --> 02:28:07,120
the intro track almost sounds like the
kind of horn bands that you'll find

2346
02:28:07,120 --> 02:28:11,479
outside Tesco at Christmas, but they're
really sad right foreboding intro to Yeah album,

2347
02:28:11,719 --> 02:28:13,920
the moment that you get that kind
of overture thing, I was like,

2348
02:28:15,079 --> 02:28:16,920
Okay, this is gonna be a
bit bleak, and then yeah,

2349
02:28:18,120 --> 02:28:22,079
when that doomy riff kind of burst
in and managed to client It's like once

2350
02:28:22,159 --> 02:28:24,840
I said you need lix. They
are telling the story through the music as

2351
02:28:24,879 --> 02:28:28,479
well, and you are conveying all
that emotion with all the all the all

2352
02:28:28,479 --> 02:28:31,760
of those aspects. Yeah, I
just said that that intro it feels like

2353
02:28:31,799 --> 02:28:33,120
a very sort of English reference point, I guess, which is kind of

2354
02:28:33,120 --> 02:28:37,159
appropriate for the scene setting of it. And then managed to climb you know

2355
02:28:37,399 --> 02:28:41,120
it. It is fucking violent when
it goes, but it set you up

2356
02:28:41,159 --> 02:28:45,479
to this place of kind of melancholy, and I think the song capitalizes on

2357
02:28:45,559 --> 02:28:46,760
both of those things kind of,
you know, superbly, And I guess

2358
02:28:46,799 --> 02:28:50,399
with the arc of the record,
that does almost become like an overture for

2359
02:28:50,399 --> 02:28:54,680
the whole record, right like all
of the rest of the album spills out

2360
02:28:54,799 --> 02:29:00,079
of the kind of the real heartache
and desolation of that first song. I

2361
02:29:00,120 --> 02:29:03,760
think managed to climb one contender for
one of the best songs on the record,

2362
02:29:03,799 --> 02:29:09,040
and I think in terms of drawing
you in is very successful in that

2363
02:29:09,040 --> 02:29:13,399
it's a ten minute song that slalom's
between two striking moves, which you'd say,

2364
02:29:13,520 --> 02:29:18,200
I would say are white hot rage
and a kind of defeat, which

2365
02:29:18,200 --> 02:29:22,600
I imagine the two feelings you would
associate with the story of this record.

2366
02:29:22,360 --> 02:29:26,000
It is kind of one and the
other. It's a pretty I wouldn't say

2367
02:29:26,040 --> 02:29:30,280
one note like it's just all miserable, But this song in particular, I

2368
02:29:30,360 --> 02:29:33,840
think sets those two things up really
well. And then again, once you

2369
02:29:33,879 --> 02:29:37,879
get into the lyrics, I think
the two things do marry up more and

2370
02:29:37,959 --> 02:29:41,200
more. Like Matrimony has some of
the meanest riffing on the record, and

2371
02:29:41,239 --> 02:29:45,239
the lyrics on that sort have a
kind of particular level of bile. When

2372
02:29:45,360 --> 02:29:48,479
that it goes, I would never
hurt a kid. If that fucking thing

2373
02:29:48,520 --> 02:29:50,000
won't stop screaming, I might just
slip my wrists. It's like that could

2374
02:29:50,000 --> 02:29:54,760
be on a paper Chase album or
something. It's so naked and vicious yeah,

2375
02:29:54,879 --> 02:29:58,840
I like them. The last verse
of employment almost reminds you of like

2376
02:29:58,879 --> 02:30:01,559
a minus strike version of Pig Destroyers
Girl and the Slayer Jacket. Yeah,

2377
02:30:01,639 --> 02:30:05,440
like there's that kind of that is
that the really good way of you know,

2378
02:30:05,520 --> 02:30:07,680
having that sort of like stream of
conscience of sort of writing here,

2379
02:30:07,719 --> 02:30:11,159
but it has that there is a
clear influence from Screamer, right, Like

2380
02:30:11,200 --> 02:30:13,399
I said, that's been there from
you know, the previous album and before

2381
02:30:13,440 --> 02:30:16,639
then as well. But musically it
comes out in those you know, there's

2382
02:30:16,680 --> 02:30:20,479
moments of just kind of She'll just
be sort of wretching into nothingness, you

2383
02:30:20,559 --> 02:30:22,159
know, like the music has taken
on some of these more post rock passages,

2384
02:30:22,879 --> 02:30:28,399
and then it carries this genuine sort
of pain and dejection in that,

2385
02:30:28,079 --> 02:30:31,840
like even on the prettier parts,
there's some kind of ugliness that has to

2386
02:30:31,879 --> 02:30:35,639
be spilled out. And likely that
particular verse I just mentioned, they put

2387
02:30:35,680 --> 02:30:39,479
on these kind of big emotive crescendos, you know with the band that really

2388
02:30:39,520 --> 02:30:43,360
makes those things feel like climaxes anyway, even if you're not exactly following on

2389
02:30:43,520 --> 02:30:48,959
with you know, the exact words, and I think they've upped that just

2390
02:30:50,120 --> 02:30:54,520
immediate ability to kind of tug on
heart strings in a more specific, pointed

2391
02:30:56,120 --> 02:31:01,159
kind of way, because the way
these songs start just has you like,

2392
02:31:01,280 --> 02:31:03,200
you know, putty immediately at the
start, or something like employment, because

2393
02:31:03,200 --> 02:31:07,239
the guitars themselves seem to just kind
of bleed so much. And again for

2394
02:31:07,319 --> 02:31:09,520
me, obviously if you like things
like the Spalbard record, there's a lot

2395
02:31:09,520 --> 02:31:11,479
of Harry Cury for the Sky in
there for me as well. But like

2396
02:31:11,559 --> 02:31:15,479
that, this is like an absolute
pointer of like, if you're looking to

2397
02:31:15,520 --> 02:31:16,879
get further into black metal, where
what kind of thing you should go for

2398
02:31:18,040 --> 02:31:20,879
next? Because that real kind of
emotional earnestness on display from the second you

2399
02:31:20,959 --> 02:31:24,200
hear it is you know, maybe
what you like, and this is really

2400
02:31:24,559 --> 02:31:28,040
filled with that. But because it
is, as you say, a kind

2401
02:31:28,040 --> 02:31:31,959
of nastier version of some of those
things like that employment, that same song

2402
02:31:31,200 --> 02:31:33,719
big fucking Thumping Groove, it's not
I agree with what you were saying,

2403
02:31:33,719 --> 02:31:35,840
Elliot in terms of like some of
the post black metal stuff. Even though

2404
02:31:35,879 --> 02:31:39,120
it's like you can have a screamed
vocal, it is almost like as wet

2405
02:31:39,239 --> 02:31:41,760
as black metal could be. If
it's not delivered, it's not grounded in

2406
02:31:41,840 --> 02:31:46,799
something, and this grabs you for
the throat in the same way. You

2407
02:31:46,840 --> 02:31:48,360
know, they'll set you up to
a bit of a cry and then they'll

2408
02:31:48,360 --> 02:31:50,680
fucking choke slammy, you know.
I mean that's it. There's more dirt.

2409
02:31:50,719 --> 02:31:54,000
Because I think back to one of
the first alms we reviewed and Laja

2410
02:31:54,040 --> 02:31:56,239
on the podcast was that Harry Curry
for the Sclab and we're like, it's

2411
02:31:56,280 --> 02:32:00,559
good, but it's very doing one
thing and it's just doing it over again.

2412
02:32:00,639 --> 02:32:03,680
This has those moments where it we'll
like say, have those gorgeous crescendos

2413
02:32:03,719 --> 02:32:09,360
that are sort of drenched in that
emotional pain. But then when it needs

2414
02:32:09,440 --> 02:32:11,280
to hit hard and I they say, slam you to the ground, And

2415
02:32:11,600 --> 02:32:15,760
do think it's it's a black miss
Rubb, But it's it's not just you

2416
02:32:15,840 --> 02:32:20,280
know, one emotion. It's it's
shades of misery throughout it. And again,

2417
02:32:20,319 --> 02:32:22,840
like match Remaine, you say,
like that songings like genuinely evil sounding,

2418
02:32:22,920 --> 02:32:28,920
and it ties into the themes of
like a mother basically hating their child.

2419
02:32:30,120 --> 02:32:33,319
And when it gets in those nasty
moments, it musically takes those turns

2420
02:32:33,399 --> 02:32:37,600
to convey those things into it never
feels too one note like a lot of

2421
02:32:39,040 --> 02:32:41,000
I said, I am some way
you mean where a lot of postbamar can

2422
02:32:41,079 --> 02:32:43,319
potentially fall into that trap. Yeah, I mean that song has a death

2423
02:32:43,360 --> 02:32:46,799
doom element. Like there's a part
where you know, the vocals just move

2424
02:32:46,799 --> 02:32:50,520
into this like nightmarish guttural sort of
end. It's the only time on the

2425
02:32:50,559 --> 02:32:52,719
record that it really does it.
But it's great that it lands at that

2426
02:32:52,920 --> 02:32:56,079
moment, and you know the record
is meant to be this kind of spiral

2427
02:32:56,159 --> 02:32:58,000
of decay, so it's the kind
of thing, you know, it starts

2428
02:32:58,079 --> 02:33:01,440
off sad like, it's almost like
acknowledging the end is kind of coming,

2429
02:33:01,719 --> 02:33:07,280
and then it evolves into into ugliness
as like things do get worse, and

2430
02:33:07,440 --> 02:33:11,760
so you start to get stuff like
matrimony and then like Enterprise just really violent,

2431
02:33:11,000 --> 02:33:15,799
which is which it's a super fucking
bleak song. Enterprise like if not

2432
02:33:15,920 --> 02:33:18,360
managed to climb one. I think
Enterprise is the standout moment on me.

2433
02:33:18,479 --> 02:33:22,520
It was the one that really caught
my attention, and again not just through

2434
02:33:22,559 --> 02:33:26,159
me in the lyrics, but just
how like violent and then it kind of

2435
02:33:26,280 --> 02:33:31,440
flashes around and it's just devastatingly heavy
and it just never gives your moment to

2436
02:33:31,520 --> 02:33:35,840
kind of like catch your breath from
how oppressively bleak it is. Yeah,

2437
02:33:35,840 --> 02:33:39,280
because post black metal, I think
in particular, is normally praised for being

2438
02:33:39,360 --> 02:33:43,760
really spacious and atmospheric and you know, all of that good stuff. A

2439
02:33:43,840 --> 02:33:48,760
song like this it almost does the
opposite. It uses the same tools but

2440
02:33:48,879 --> 02:33:54,479
to be kind of suffocating and stress
inducing. And again, just to go

2441
02:33:54,639 --> 02:33:58,360
back to the lyrics, something like
You're just a function open wide. It's

2442
02:33:58,520 --> 02:34:03,319
like Dax Riggs ji ay, like
those guys were proud of something so blunt

2443
02:34:03,399 --> 02:34:11,399
and horrible. Like again, not
particularly crass or crude or explicit, but

2444
02:34:11,520 --> 02:34:16,040
it's just this blunt six word phrase
which just kind of makes your skin crawl.

2445
02:34:16,600 --> 02:34:20,479
Yeah, I agree. And you
know they've described that song as well

2446
02:34:20,520 --> 02:34:24,559
as being like a kind of a
metaphor for the kind of fetisization of entrepreneurship,

2447
02:34:24,879 --> 02:34:28,280
and that's such a like a sick, darkly ironic inversion of that kind

2448
02:34:28,280 --> 02:34:31,079
of ideal that you know, the
kind of people in this, you know

2449
02:34:31,280 --> 02:34:35,959
story aren't realistically going to be able
to achieve. It's really impactful the way

2450
02:34:35,959 --> 02:34:39,280
they do that, And there is
this kind of vicious, dejected chorus part

2451
02:34:39,319 --> 02:34:41,159
in there as well that I can't
take the things I've seen you were supposed

2452
02:34:41,159 --> 02:34:45,959
to keep me safe. Part has
that you know, rhythmic almost like scattered

2453
02:34:46,040 --> 02:34:48,399
or something, but kind of like
you know, it from a nunciation standpoint,

2454
02:34:48,440 --> 02:34:52,040
it kind of hits more punchally.
I think it'd be really if they

2455
02:34:52,079 --> 02:34:54,520
could you know, eke more a
little more out of that. You know,

2456
02:34:54,559 --> 02:34:56,600
I think Dawn Ray did that on
their album this year, those kind

2457
02:34:56,600 --> 02:35:00,520
of really you know, it thrives
on those like big ba and a waving

2458
02:35:00,559 --> 02:35:03,239
kind of moments. If they can
you know, balance that continually with those

2459
02:35:03,239 --> 02:35:07,559
almost like you know, vomited spoken
word emo parts or something. And then

2460
02:35:07,600 --> 02:35:11,600
on the arc of the record again
like managed Decline too offers this kind of

2461
02:35:11,680 --> 02:35:15,079
reprieve from all of this, but
it's tinged with the kind of regret and

2462
02:35:15,200 --> 02:35:18,200
sadness of everything that's gone before it, and you know, lyrically the classic

2463
02:35:18,280 --> 02:35:22,280
kind of I'm getting out of this
town you know thing has some really you

2464
02:35:22,360 --> 02:35:26,719
know, much more nuanced approach on
it there about what that actually means and

2465
02:35:26,799 --> 02:35:30,280
the sort of kind of perpetuation of
mindset that might be occurring there. And

2466
02:35:30,399 --> 02:35:33,040
then alongside that, you have,
you know, the way that is kind

2467
02:35:33,040 --> 02:35:37,159
of this moment of you know,
bitter sweet sort of release at the end

2468
02:35:37,639 --> 02:35:39,639
has these kind of you know,
slightly proggy guitarics and stuff that come in.

2469
02:35:39,680 --> 02:35:43,200
They are some much needed doses of
color at the end, but not

2470
02:35:43,319 --> 02:35:46,040
in a way that kind of undermines
what they've built or lets the kind of

2471
02:35:46,159 --> 02:35:50,399
decay off the hook. And again
maybe it's the fact that I can picture

2472
02:35:50,479 --> 02:35:54,879
like the exact fucking empty post industrial
locations in the area that I grew up

2473
02:35:54,920 --> 02:35:58,040
in and some of the people there
in these kind of you know stories.

2474
02:35:58,079 --> 02:36:03,399
But it's quite a haunting, reflective
end to the whole experience. As far

2475
02:36:03,399 --> 02:36:05,840
as you can get out of this
one, there is a system, like

2476
02:36:05,920 --> 02:36:09,920
a systemic problem that is inescapable.
And again that's where you get that that

2477
02:36:11,040 --> 02:36:16,200
Dawn raid kind of just like like
anti cab toist, anti fascist. We

2478
02:36:16,280 --> 02:36:18,760
were talking, you know, talking
about some of the King album that has

2479
02:36:18,799 --> 02:36:20,760
in Kinchit with the start, I
mean, Great Britain is one that you

2480
02:36:20,799 --> 02:36:22,600
could bring in to mind absolutely some
similar ideas you know running through it.

2481
02:36:22,639 --> 02:36:26,120
I think for this kind of you
know, contemporary black metal that isn't all

2482
02:36:26,319 --> 02:36:30,680
super evil, right like, it
has that crossover with post rock and post

2483
02:36:30,760 --> 02:36:33,520
hardcore scenes and stuff like that.
Obviously some of those are particularly based in

2484
02:36:33,600 --> 02:36:37,000
the UK. I think this is
a very admirable record, like they've really

2485
02:36:37,000 --> 02:36:39,319
they've seen something through. This is
one that I didn't necessarily see coming.

2486
02:36:39,360 --> 02:36:41,600
Like I thought they were a good
band, but something of this sort of

2487
02:36:41,760 --> 02:36:46,520
scope and very specific kind of focus. I'm very impressed with the way they've

2488
02:36:46,559 --> 02:36:50,360
you know, really lean into that
kind of thing. And I think,

2489
02:36:50,399 --> 02:36:52,600
you know, the narrative on it, some of the images and the concepts

2490
02:36:52,799 --> 02:36:56,000
are really going to stick with me
actually writing the music to tie it all

2491
02:36:56,040 --> 02:36:58,399
together. They've had a really strong
cracket, you know, like I quite

2492
02:36:58,479 --> 02:37:01,600
let's get my hand copy of this
one. It's one of the last sort

2493
02:37:01,639 --> 02:37:03,120
of great albums of the year.
I think, well, there are a

2494
02:37:03,159 --> 02:37:07,040
few out today are the ones.
But if you don't know this band,

2495
02:37:07,040 --> 02:37:09,239
particularly if you're in the UK,
I guess because they're on your doorstep.

2496
02:37:09,399 --> 02:37:11,840
But you know, if you're not
as well, they are called under Duck.

2497
02:37:11,040 --> 02:37:15,239
They're not a big band, so
they're really worth hearing. Finally,

2498
02:37:15,760 --> 02:37:20,239
maybe Turn of the Industrial America or
Industrial Wasteland England is not your thing.

2499
02:37:20,559 --> 02:37:24,959
Maybe you want to go to a
good old fashioned, spooky Castle, Have

2500
02:37:24,079 --> 02:37:28,879
we got the band for you?
Mala Carpatan is their name. Their fourth

2501
02:37:28,959 --> 02:37:31,000
record, which was released a couple
of weeks ago, is called Vertumnus Caesar.

2502
02:37:31,719 --> 02:37:35,959
I fucking love this band. They're
mad, you're fun. I mean

2503
02:37:37,079 --> 02:37:39,479
we've all taken our turn to,
you know, give an album someone else

2504
02:37:39,559 --> 02:37:43,280
really likes a kick in. I
think it's my turn. No, are

2505
02:37:43,360 --> 02:37:48,239
you surprised I don't like this album? Come on, Like, I'm not

2506
02:37:48,319 --> 02:37:52,920
gonna like say it's all complete bollocks
and like that, because there's obviously a

2507
02:37:52,959 --> 02:37:56,280
lot of really accomplished stuff on this
album, like, but it's so just

2508
02:37:56,360 --> 02:38:01,559
so. I was like, I
think this I'm a listener. I engage

2509
02:38:01,639 --> 02:38:03,719
music on an emotional level, right, Like, That's why I fucking love

2510
02:38:03,760 --> 02:38:07,079
that Underdark record. That's why you
know, I was hanging about how much

2511
02:38:07,120 --> 02:38:11,280
I can listen to mister Fallon singing
about nice things. This is one where

2512
02:38:11,280 --> 02:38:13,559
if you are if you want to
listen to music on like a technical level

2513
02:38:13,600 --> 02:38:16,079
or that, I think there's all
that. On an emotional level, this

2514
02:38:16,200 --> 02:38:20,440
is this felt completely hollow to me, and I just really found nothing to

2515
02:38:20,479 --> 02:38:24,920
grasp on rather than like, that's
a pretty good riff there and that instrumental

2516
02:38:24,000 --> 02:38:28,040
track is batshit crazy. Yeah,
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna tell you

2517
02:38:28,079 --> 02:38:31,879
you're wrong, obviously, because how
you emotionally engage with, you know,

2518
02:38:31,079 --> 02:38:33,959
a piece of music is entirely you
know, down to the individual. But

2519
02:38:35,040 --> 02:38:39,520
I will say this record brings me
an awful lot of emotion, and the

2520
02:38:39,600 --> 02:38:43,000
main one is joy. Like this
record makes me. This band in general,

2521
02:38:43,200 --> 02:38:50,399
like they make me smile, and
this record like it I'm glad like

2522
02:38:50,479 --> 02:38:52,879
you had fun with this because I
was, like, I totally see why

2523
02:38:52,920 --> 02:38:58,079
you've brought it on and like because
there is a mix of like gothic nonsense

2524
02:38:58,159 --> 02:39:03,680
and big heaven are riffing and weird
mental turns here and there, and I

2525
02:39:03,760 --> 02:39:07,360
can totally see where you've had like
fun walking around this pointed castle of silly

2526
02:39:07,399 --> 02:39:11,280
bollocks. But for me, it
was just just it. This was quite

2527
02:39:11,319 --> 02:39:13,639
an exhausting listen. Yeah, well, I mean, let me say you

2528
02:39:13,680 --> 02:39:18,479
know again, I've brought this in
just because I thought I heard it and

2529
02:39:18,520 --> 02:39:22,520
I thought this is so mental.
This is just it's so much more interesting

2530
02:39:22,600 --> 02:39:24,719
than most things that we get the
obtuses to talk about. It's obviously,

2531
02:39:24,719 --> 02:39:26,760
it's the most niche thing we're talking
about. Most of you won't, you

2532
02:39:26,799 --> 02:39:28,440
know, go for it, And
that's perfectly fine. You know, it's

2533
02:39:28,440 --> 02:39:31,799
a small, niche thing for a
reason. But in terms of just a

2534
02:39:31,879 --> 02:39:37,120
record that, like I said,
just lights me up with how full of

2535
02:39:37,280 --> 02:39:39,959
ideas and how fun and how willing
to commit to its ideas it is,

2536
02:39:41,239 --> 02:39:45,120
I thought, this is such a
blast, and I do think there are

2537
02:39:45,200 --> 02:39:48,120
things about this in terms of I
guess their trajectory as a band that are

2538
02:39:48,239 --> 02:39:52,159
increasingly kind of showing signs of something
a little bit more and something really worth

2539
02:39:52,719 --> 02:39:58,200
celebrating. Elliott, your reaction to
Sam being the spoilers part particular time around

2540
02:39:58,559 --> 02:40:01,719
means that I know you get exactly
what this record is doing and what it's

2541
02:40:01,760 --> 02:40:09,600
going for. Isn't this fucking brilliant? This album is so fucking good.

2542
02:40:11,760 --> 02:40:16,159
I The thing is, I do
understand, but I also don't understand,

2543
02:40:16,559 --> 02:40:20,840
because yes, there's a sort of
cerebral heady quality to it where you can

2544
02:40:20,920 --> 02:40:24,399
sit by the stereo and study it, but that's not the level on which

2545
02:40:24,440 --> 02:40:28,479
I enjoy it. I just love
being transported to their world, not knowing

2546
02:40:28,520 --> 02:40:31,879
what they're going to do next.
This was my first exposure to malocup.

2547
02:40:33,000 --> 02:40:35,040
Yeah, I was gonna ask.
Yeah. It was again sort of similar

2548
02:40:35,079 --> 02:40:39,159
case of Wayfair. I'd heard the
name banded around. I recognized a few

2549
02:40:39,159 --> 02:40:41,479
of the album covers. When I
check this one out, I have no

2550
02:40:41,639 --> 02:40:46,000
memory of ever hearing them, and
it just combines so many of my favorite

2551
02:40:46,040 --> 02:40:50,559
things. It's like first wave black
metal, traditional heavy metal, some psychedelic

2552
02:40:50,680 --> 02:40:56,799
folk, and the silliest prog rock
on the prog bollocks. That just that,

2553
02:40:56,920 --> 02:40:58,319
that's the stuff. When they go
into that every time, it's like,

2554
02:40:58,399 --> 02:41:03,040
oh, please stop it. But
you like goblin, right, Yeah,

2555
02:41:03,079 --> 02:41:07,079
I know, Like I get what
you're saying. It's nineteen seventies Italian

2556
02:41:07,120 --> 02:41:09,799
horror soundtract is what they're doing.
They're doing that at points, but other

2557
02:41:09,879 --> 02:41:13,959
times it just it's a stupid,
daft mix of things, and it just

2558
02:41:15,920 --> 02:41:18,959
I don't know. I just I
was just exhausted and just worn down by

2559
02:41:20,079 --> 02:41:22,559
this whole experience. Yeah, well, we're gonna have an absolute fucking party

2560
02:41:22,639 --> 02:41:28,959
with this, Elliott. I don't
want to show on your party. I

2561
02:41:28,319 --> 02:41:35,000
understand that these things that they're mixing
together are quite desperate and it might sound

2562
02:41:35,120 --> 02:41:39,120
like a mess, I think,
but they take these weird things and they

2563
02:41:39,239 --> 02:41:43,440
kind of use the best elements of
each to enhance the others, because you

2564
02:41:43,479 --> 02:41:50,760
get that ragged, visceral quality of
the early black metal, the otherworldly transportative

2565
02:41:50,639 --> 02:41:56,840
nature of psychedelic folk, the crazy
flights of fancy of space rock, and

2566
02:41:56,959 --> 02:42:03,239
then just the joy of a good
sharp rich the proper heavy metal gives you.

2567
02:42:03,879 --> 02:42:07,559
And I think it to an extent
it uses the strength of those things

2568
02:42:07,600 --> 02:42:11,799
to compensate for the shortcomings of others, because you know, first wave black

2569
02:42:11,840 --> 02:42:16,399
metal is really exciting, but is
it particularly nice on the ears? Maybe

2570
02:42:16,479 --> 02:42:20,440
not, so you could have a
gorgeous, folky texture to sort of tickle

2571
02:42:20,479 --> 02:42:24,479
the brain. Every now and then
prog can be exciting and unpredictable. Is

2572
02:42:24,520 --> 02:42:28,760
it all that catchy? I don't
know. Is a speed metal rift catchy?

2573
02:42:28,399 --> 02:42:33,479
Absolutely? And when you just have
those things sort of sometimes shoulder to

2574
02:42:33,559 --> 02:42:37,639
shoulder, sometimes weaving together, I
just have a massive smile on my face

2575
02:42:39,040 --> 02:42:41,879
the whole time this is on.
Yeah, you get it, you get

2576
02:42:41,920 --> 02:42:45,000
it. I feel like every six
months or so we need like an underground

2577
02:42:45,000 --> 02:42:48,319
record that I think is absolutely brilliant
that Sam does not understand at all.

2578
02:42:50,040 --> 02:42:52,840
The last one is that that DoD
Heims Guard record. I don't know if

2579
02:42:52,879 --> 02:42:56,319
we had one. I don't remember
since the DoD Heims Guard record. I've

2580
02:42:56,360 --> 02:42:58,760
fur this to that because at least
this one's got some sick rifts on it.

2581
02:42:58,639 --> 02:43:01,559
Whatever track four is called. I
can't remember the song titles because they're

2582
02:43:03,479 --> 02:43:07,040
that opens that song and like again
because I saw came Home quite harsh this.

2583
02:43:07,200 --> 02:43:11,959
There are riffs and moments in songs
where I'm like, yeah, fair

2584
02:43:11,120 --> 02:43:16,600
enough, yeah. But the thing
about this is like there is it's like,

2585
02:43:16,639 --> 02:43:18,079
on a technical perspective, a lot
about this. I mean, production

2586
02:43:18,200 --> 02:43:22,200
value. For one thing, they're
clearly not This isn't musoh like, they're

2587
02:43:22,239 --> 02:43:28,159
not periphery, yeah right, it's
they're going for something particularly atmospheric. But

2588
02:43:28,239 --> 02:43:33,000
there are things about this where this
has genuinely some of the most like classy,

2589
02:43:33,639 --> 02:43:39,440
outstanding songwriting and playing a musicianship I've
heard on a record this year,

2590
02:43:39,520 --> 02:43:41,319
and I didn't necessarily expect it because
I have been a Mala Carpatown fan for

2591
02:43:41,360 --> 02:43:43,600
a little while. Right. They
are a name that if you are deep

2592
02:43:43,639 --> 02:43:48,440
into your cult heavy metal you may
be familiar with over the past decade or

2593
02:43:48,479 --> 02:43:52,120
so. They are a Slovakian heavy
metal band and to me, what they

2594
02:43:52,200 --> 02:43:54,000
kind of were, and I guess
still are to a degree, is they

2595
02:43:54,040 --> 02:43:58,959
were the most exciting kind of modern
incarnation of a tradition that exists in particularly

2596
02:43:58,040 --> 02:44:05,600
kind of Central and Eastern European like
strange esoteric metal heavily unique to that region,

2597
02:44:05,799 --> 02:44:09,120
like obviously you know Hell Hammering Celtic
Clot in Celtic frost Ins in Switzerland.

2598
02:44:09,239 --> 02:44:11,559
But in the late eighties of the
nineties, when the Scandinavian bands in

2599
02:44:11,559 --> 02:44:15,559
black metal were really like dominating the
scene, you'd have bands like Masters Hammer

2600
02:44:15,840 --> 02:44:18,639
and Roots in Czechia. You'd have
Tormentor in Hungary. You know, you

2601
02:44:18,760 --> 02:44:22,600
go a bit more south, you've
got mortuarye Drape in Italy, like just

2602
02:44:22,719 --> 02:44:24,520
you know, even sort of how
Strange and one off Merciful Fate were in

2603
02:44:24,559 --> 02:44:28,600
Denmark, who obviously carries over a
lot into this, but like Cut,

2604
02:44:28,680 --> 02:44:33,280
often it's behind the iron curtain with
even less resources than normal black metal,

2605
02:44:33,319 --> 02:44:35,680
and some of the weird bands that
developed there. Some of those bands you

2606
02:44:35,760 --> 02:44:37,239
might recognize, some of them you
might not. Doesn't matter. What we

2607
02:44:37,319 --> 02:44:43,040
are talking about is just crazy eccentric
European metal that trades in follow the herd

2608
02:44:43,159 --> 02:44:48,680
uniformity for boundless personality. They are
heavily inspired by the folklore in history of

2609
02:44:48,680 --> 02:44:52,000
their surrounding region. They are full
of just witches and devils and weird bog

2610
02:44:52,120 --> 02:44:56,280
creatures and all this great stuff.
They've just come off what they've called their

2611
02:44:56,360 --> 02:44:58,000
kind of folk horror trilogy, which
was dealing with all of that. This

2612
02:44:58,159 --> 02:45:01,559
is a concept down about the Holy
Roman Emperor Rudolph the Second, who was

2613
02:45:01,600 --> 02:45:05,360
big into occult alchemy. That's the
kind of shit. That's what you know.

2614
02:45:05,399 --> 02:45:07,440
All the bottles and shit on this
album cover, that's what that is.

2615
02:45:07,680 --> 02:45:11,840
It is pure outlandish celebration of weird
shit through weird heavy metal. And

2616
02:45:11,959 --> 02:45:13,879
I love it what we're saying about
the green lung thing, right, and

2617
02:45:13,959 --> 02:45:20,559
how green lung make those quite niche
reference points very universal to everybody. Mala

2618
02:45:20,639 --> 02:45:24,920
Carptan, don't Mala Carpatan is that
for people who like that. I fall

2619
02:45:26,000 --> 02:45:28,600
into this and it's one of the
best fucking things I've heard all year,

2620
02:45:28,719 --> 02:45:33,360
Like honestly that the English translations of
the lyrics are so so good. More

2621
02:45:33,440 --> 02:45:35,879
so the last couple of albums when
it was like the folk demon stuff,

2622
02:45:35,959 --> 02:45:37,760
but they got these really long trailing
titles and you go, oh, I

2623
02:45:37,799 --> 02:45:39,879
wonder what that means, and you
look at it and it's what the juice

2624
02:45:39,920 --> 02:45:43,959
did that old hideous hag pour into
my cup enough? Why didn't I think

2625
02:45:45,000 --> 02:45:48,360
it would be that? Or about
the one who obscured his mind with drinking

2626
02:45:48,399 --> 02:45:50,879
and ended up having to spend the
night inside the pig sty or within the

2627
02:45:50,959 --> 02:45:54,040
dense woods. The witch is hiding
her hut on magpie legs, just like

2628
02:45:54,159 --> 02:45:58,200
awesome comedic shit. Whenever I do
my next vinyl tap video, this band

2629
02:45:58,200 --> 02:46:01,319
will feature heavily because I bought something
mental with their whole discography in it.

2630
02:46:01,399 --> 02:46:05,239
But I did the rare thing with
this if I preordered it on vinyl,

2631
02:46:05,879 --> 02:46:09,680
and I didn't listen to anything beforehand, so I just got old school experience

2632
02:46:09,760 --> 02:46:13,280
of like sitting down, putting it
on my turntable, experiencing it all there

2633
02:46:13,319 --> 02:46:16,920
for the first time, which with
a record like this, feels so appropriate.

2634
02:46:16,959 --> 02:46:20,559
But what I really love is I'm
some of those bands I mentioned,

2635
02:46:20,600 --> 02:46:24,440
those obscure European metal bands I'm a
big fan of, Like I love Tormentor,

2636
02:46:24,520 --> 02:46:26,159
which was famously was like a Tillochy
Hars band before he joined Mayhem.

2637
02:46:26,479 --> 02:46:30,280
They've only got a couple of demo
releases and stuff from like back then.

2638
02:46:30,319 --> 02:46:33,239
In that time, being a Mala
Carpatan fan has been like seeing in real

2639
02:46:33,360 --> 02:46:39,440
time, what if one of those
weird cult first wave black metal bands blossomed

2640
02:46:39,440 --> 02:46:45,120
into something like really crazily ambitious and
multifaceted, because every record has had this

2641
02:46:45,239 --> 02:46:48,920
really surprising leap in fidelity for what
you would have initially expected from them.

2642
02:46:48,040 --> 02:46:50,840
The one before this, they went
in this deliberate direction of like, we're

2643
02:46:50,840 --> 02:46:54,079
playing this first wave black metal thing, but we want to make it cinematic,

2644
02:46:54,479 --> 02:46:58,360
and we want to have like a
story, and we're going to evoke

2645
02:46:58,479 --> 02:47:01,239
the images of a story at c
and points and songs. This one is

2646
02:47:01,319 --> 02:47:03,840
now the point where I'm like,
yeah, actually, if you were going

2647
02:47:03,920 --> 02:47:07,520
to go for Mala Carpeturon, if
it vaguely sounds I thought you'd be interested

2648
02:47:07,559 --> 02:47:11,040
in more. People can actually go
in on this record because it sounds better.

2649
02:47:11,479 --> 02:47:15,559
The song craft is much more in
that kind of like they've done these

2650
02:47:15,600 --> 02:47:16,920
ten minutes songs. Now they're going
to write more like five minute kind of

2651
02:47:16,920 --> 02:47:20,360
prog heavy nettle songs with like clear
licks and rifts and everything, and it

2652
02:47:20,479 --> 02:47:26,000
is just mental mental, fun.
It's just so good to listen to something

2653
02:47:26,000 --> 02:47:30,959
where it feels like there are no
rules. Yeah, not in love and

2654
02:47:31,079 --> 02:47:33,280
not in a way where they're going, oh, you're not going to see

2655
02:47:33,319 --> 02:47:35,920
this coming black. Oh you're freaked
out, aren't you. It's just like

2656
02:47:37,639 --> 02:47:39,280
if you're in a metal did it
makes sense? Yeah, there's no part

2657
02:47:39,319 --> 02:47:43,239
of it where it's like, oh, aren't they being wacky? But there's

2658
02:47:43,719 --> 02:47:46,559
I will concede that, Yeah,
it's not. It's not like was it

2659
02:47:46,680 --> 02:47:48,760
between the Barry of Me when we
did Their Colors arm and I was like,

2660
02:47:48,799 --> 02:47:52,600
there's just sainy bollocks on this album
that it's just like stupid pulling out

2661
02:47:52,600 --> 02:47:56,200
this at least gonna go like it's
a bit more structured, so when it

2662
02:47:56,319 --> 02:48:01,360
takes his turns, it's not like
jarring and annoying. The elements are consistent.

2663
02:48:01,680 --> 02:48:05,760
Yeah, and there are moments where
I am sort of jarred, but

2664
02:48:05,959 --> 02:48:07,920
like you say, it's not in
an annoying way, like the end of

2665
02:48:07,040 --> 02:48:13,479
track three, which is pure like
ren Fair folk and that going into track

2666
02:48:13,559 --> 02:48:16,520
four and I don't know the song
soles, which yeah, it sounds like

2667
02:48:16,639 --> 02:48:20,840
stand up and shouts, and it's
like that's just the fucking business. But

2668
02:48:20,879 --> 02:48:22,840
again, it doesn't seem like a
calculated Oh, they won't see this coming.

2669
02:48:22,920 --> 02:48:26,440
It's just like you've got to the
end of that song, do you

2670
02:48:26,520 --> 02:48:31,239
guys like di oh yeah. But
then that track four gets the bongoes out

2671
02:48:31,280 --> 02:48:35,600
done it like I wanna go to
the the the beginning, because a big

2672
02:48:35,680 --> 02:48:37,600
part for me is, you know, again, if you were talking about

2673
02:48:37,600 --> 02:48:41,000
how to engage with this on an
emotional level, I would use albums like

2674
02:48:41,040 --> 02:48:43,040
Abigail by King Diamond Yeah as like
a reference point for what you do.

2675
02:48:43,120 --> 02:48:46,559
And it opened very similarly in terms
of again, the first song past the

2676
02:48:46,600 --> 02:48:52,520
intro translates as the carriage moves southwest
through the dark blue distances, which makes

2677
02:48:52,559 --> 02:48:56,399
tons of sense because it has that
galloping arrival at the mansion vibes of like

2678
02:48:56,559 --> 02:49:01,280
King Diamonds, Abigail and those like
kick heavy metal leads that it has.

2679
02:49:01,639 --> 02:49:05,040
They are if you are of my
persuasion, they are so fun and pleasurable

2680
02:49:05,079 --> 02:49:07,760
to listen to, like it's it's
classic. No other kind of music does

2681
02:49:07,799 --> 02:49:11,879
this heavy metal playing, And if
you like that kind of musical storytelling via

2682
02:49:13,000 --> 02:49:16,040
heavy metal, they arrive at things
like ah yes, a harpsichord that's the

2683
02:49:16,120 --> 02:49:18,399
perfect moment to introduce a harps of
chord to this kind of thing. See,

2684
02:49:18,680 --> 02:49:24,200
that's the thing is I don't I
didn't get much of the storytelling from

2685
02:49:24,200 --> 02:49:26,559
the music. And that's why I
assume you mean with Abigail comparison. But

2686
02:49:26,680 --> 02:49:31,719
Abigail you've got you know, story
and do all that, and I think

2687
02:49:31,760 --> 02:49:35,319
the musical thing is really effective.
There I didn't really like. And again

2688
02:49:35,399 --> 02:49:39,000
I like, obviously I didn't get
the lyrics or something that, but I

2689
02:49:39,079 --> 02:49:43,959
didn't find the music was particularly effective
in kind of like leading me through either.

2690
02:49:45,360 --> 02:49:48,840
See well, I went into I
didn't know anything about the concepts,

2691
02:49:48,200 --> 02:49:52,040
but I definitely felt the world,
Like when the harps are chords and all

2692
02:49:52,079 --> 02:49:56,520
the other stuff, I was like, I'm in Bowser's castle. Like that's

2693
02:49:56,639 --> 02:50:01,079
my infantile like assessment of it.
But is that kind of runaway ghost train

2694
02:50:01,719 --> 02:50:07,399
through the haunted mansion in the middle
of the mountains. And I think,

2695
02:50:07,479 --> 02:50:11,200
again, as nice as it is
to understand each beat on a concept record,

2696
02:50:11,399 --> 02:50:13,719
I think if it's able to sort
of capture the general vibe and get

2697
02:50:13,799 --> 02:50:18,360
you there, that's that's a success. Yeah, build a world and immerse

2698
02:50:18,440 --> 02:50:22,440
me in it, and that I'm
I'm done right, and this has that

2699
02:50:22,639 --> 02:50:26,159
in I think that's unignorable, I
think, and they have, like I

2700
02:50:26,200 --> 02:50:28,239
said, they've been around with for
a few years. This is their fourth

2701
02:50:28,280 --> 02:50:31,639
album. They started way more that
scrungey first wave black metal kind of tone,

2702
02:50:31,840 --> 02:50:33,639
and again I might not necessarily be
the kind of thing I would have

2703
02:50:33,639 --> 02:50:37,159
brought onto the show for more people
to hear. I'm a big fan of

2704
02:50:37,200 --> 02:50:41,000
their album Nord Carpatan Land, which
for that kind of like filthy tone is

2705
02:50:41,079 --> 02:50:45,000
just rift central, right. This
is by far their cleanest recording job,

2706
02:50:45,159 --> 02:50:48,200
and it's really put that kind of
classic heavy metal lead playing and so on

2707
02:50:48,719 --> 02:50:52,040
at the forefront in a way that
for a band like Malacarpatan, who still

2708
02:50:52,040 --> 02:50:54,879
have a vocalist who's just the grunting
his way for the whole thing, it's

2709
02:50:54,000 --> 02:50:58,000
borderline classy, right, And they
still have this kind of early eighties extremely

2710
02:50:58,040 --> 02:51:03,879
off flavour at point Maharal Alglen fucking
rips right, just no nonsense. The

2711
02:51:03,959 --> 02:51:07,159
title track has this like really erratic
frantic riff that is like the kind of

2712
02:51:07,200 --> 02:51:13,120
early eighty teutonic thrash of like early
Creator Destruction sodom when they're all kind of

2713
02:51:13,159 --> 02:51:16,120
proto black metal anyway, and they
do this thing where they've last on the

2714
02:51:16,159 --> 02:51:20,360
drums, where it is in that
kind of ratterly way like people did before,

2715
02:51:20,760 --> 02:51:22,600
people like Mick Harris or Pete Sandervial
kind of turned up and went,

2716
02:51:22,680 --> 02:51:26,360
this is what a blast peat is
that kind of like thing that's like Sarcophago

2717
02:51:26,440 --> 02:51:28,520
do or something of like it's just
pounding on the snare runaway freight train thing.

2718
02:51:28,799 --> 02:51:37,239
But that title track has this like
absurdly sick mid section with these lead

2719
02:51:37,319 --> 02:51:41,559
parts like dancing up and down the
threat board and that it's like everywhere there

2720
02:51:41,639 --> 02:51:45,559
should be a really brilliant classic metal
guitar lead on this, they've put one.

2721
02:51:45,680 --> 02:51:48,680
You know. It's like they've started
out being Venom and hell Hammer and

2722
02:51:48,799 --> 02:51:50,239
now they've gone, oh yeah,
but now we can be andy La rock

2723
02:51:50,639 --> 02:51:54,079
for a while. It's so audacious
to have somehow done that, and at

2724
02:51:54,079 --> 02:51:58,440
the same time that the elaborate heavy
metal thing has been upped very accordingly.

2725
02:52:00,280 --> 02:52:03,479
This is like a prog album,
which this is so an album for you

2726
02:52:03,719 --> 02:52:07,360
obviously not you, Sam, but
if you are, if you like eccentric

2727
02:52:07,840 --> 02:52:13,920
nineteen seventies dudes in huge capes on
keyboards, but you also like grotty eighties

2728
02:52:13,959 --> 02:52:16,959
black metal, and you want that
flavor channel through it. Right, You've

2729
02:52:18,000 --> 02:52:22,600
got melotrons on this, you've got
surprise flutes, you've got cowbells and the

2730
02:52:22,120 --> 02:52:26,920
track. You've both gone to it
because I think it is undeniably fucking just

2731
02:52:28,840 --> 02:52:33,559
both impressive but also sensational. The
fourth track again, the first time I

2732
02:52:33,600 --> 02:52:37,159
sat down with this album, it
made me actually like scoff and punched the

2733
02:52:37,239 --> 02:52:39,879
air when it hit because the riff, you say, do o for me,

2734
02:52:39,200 --> 02:52:43,399
it's straight out of Bomber, right
like, it is fast. It's

2735
02:52:43,760 --> 02:52:46,840
fast Eddy Motorhead worshiped, the same
thing you'll get in Midnight right Like,

2736
02:52:46,959 --> 02:52:50,399
it just rocks the second you hear
it. But then they take that riff

2737
02:52:50,840 --> 02:52:56,079
and they put it on this like
skipping thin Lizzy rhythm that kind of dead

2738
02:52:56,159 --> 02:53:01,040
there. And if that hasn't wetted
my whistle enough, they fill that same

2739
02:53:01,159 --> 02:53:05,440
track increasingly over his run time with
synths and then like bongos and it turns

2740
02:53:05,479 --> 02:53:09,719
into this like prog rock motor synth
track. It is so rad. I

2741
02:53:09,760 --> 02:53:11,319
don't know what the fuck I'm doing
during it. It's just these guys know

2742
02:53:11,440 --> 02:53:15,079
how to rock. That's all you
can say from that evidence like they know

2743
02:53:15,239 --> 02:53:18,159
their stuff, They've got the source
to do it. It is just what

2744
02:53:18,319 --> 02:53:20,159
a brilliant idea that they would have
quite done before. And I love it.

2745
02:53:20,360 --> 02:53:24,319
I mean, that is probably my
favorite track of the fans because of

2746
02:53:24,479 --> 02:53:28,719
like again, I can't I can't
deny that riff like the is sick.

2747
02:53:28,000 --> 02:53:33,440
It's so badass track as well.
I didn't mind that one with like the

2748
02:53:33,520 --> 02:53:37,159
Gothic symphony piano bits and all that
and like that. But yeah, like

2749
02:53:37,440 --> 02:53:39,840
again that was where I was going
to go into it, and then it's

2750
02:53:39,959 --> 02:53:43,600
top of me, is right?
Is the one track I'm like, maybe

2751
02:53:43,600 --> 02:53:46,479
I can get with this. They
then follow it up with what is essentially

2752
02:53:46,719 --> 02:53:52,000
like just kryptonite to me and just
making me like, oh yeah, you

2753
02:53:52,079 --> 02:54:00,319
know, a a instrumental space prog
pile of nonsense, Like let me say,

2754
02:54:00,680 --> 02:54:03,120
uh, I think again, the
band together, I think, are

2755
02:54:03,319 --> 02:54:07,559
undeniably ridiculously good players at this stage, which considering again they started off sound

2756
02:54:07,639 --> 02:54:11,200
like Venom and hell Hammer. Suddenly
like the guitar leads are like top drawer,

2757
02:54:11,559 --> 02:54:16,079
the bass guitar playing because the mix
isn't overloaded with like big scary monster

2758
02:54:16,120 --> 02:54:18,000
the sorted extreme metal stuff. It's
based on these kind of classic sounds.

2759
02:54:18,159 --> 02:54:20,600
The bass has to be up to
scratch at times. It reminds me of

2760
02:54:20,639 --> 02:54:24,200
even like some of like the newer
thrash bands we've done, where they've gone

2761
02:54:24,239 --> 02:54:26,520
all like progressive space rock, and
they've had these like big, you know,

2762
02:54:26,639 --> 02:54:30,600
wide open blowings of their sound.
The reference points become more obscure here,

2763
02:54:30,600 --> 02:54:33,719
but there's a similarity there. I
saw that track five was going to

2764
02:54:33,760 --> 02:54:35,040
be an instrumental, right, and
because it opens side B, I just

2765
02:54:35,079 --> 02:54:39,479
assumed that that'd be another spooky intro
organ piece or something. It is a

2766
02:54:39,639 --> 02:54:45,440
full on six minute prog instrumental track, and it is the most at it

2767
02:54:45,959 --> 02:54:50,200
ridiculous prog instrumental on a metal record
I've heard in a while. But at

2768
02:54:50,239 --> 02:54:56,760
the same time it is structured and
has melodies and develops in a way that

2769
02:54:56,000 --> 02:54:58,520
is like, you know, you
were thinking, oh, yeah, how

2770
02:54:58,559 --> 02:55:03,079
did Rush do instrumental? How did
Iron Maiden do instrumentals? And this fucking

2771
02:55:03,639 --> 02:55:09,600
goes there. I it's one again, I said earlier. I understand why

2772
02:55:09,719 --> 02:55:13,000
people don't like it, why it's
not going to be to certain people's taste.

2773
02:55:13,360 --> 02:55:20,920
I also don't understand because it's so
much fun. Like that thing you

2774
02:55:20,000 --> 02:55:22,799
were saying earlier about like, oh, you know it sounds it was fun

2775
02:55:22,879 --> 02:55:26,920
to make about the Nobra record.
I have that same idea about this mental

2776
02:55:28,360 --> 02:55:33,799
freak out jazz prog metal song.
Like you just think the people in the

2777
02:55:33,840 --> 02:55:37,760
band are clearly very talented, but
it's not like, oh we're going to

2778
02:55:37,799 --> 02:55:39,799
show off and yeah, you're not
gonna be able to see what we can

2779
02:55:39,840 --> 02:55:46,719
do and it's all very flash.
It's just mental songwriting that is also kind

2780
02:55:46,799 --> 02:55:50,239
of unthinking, like and again instrumental
some people like, you know, just

2781
02:55:50,479 --> 02:55:54,520
throw a vocal on it. Where
would you put it? There's no space.

2782
02:55:56,040 --> 02:55:58,799
Yeah, I can't deny that.
This is just not for me.

2783
02:56:00,079 --> 02:56:03,520
I except like the first Pie where
it's just this kind of like spacey prog

2784
02:56:03,600 --> 02:56:05,280
thing I was. I was trying
to tune out and then you get like

2785
02:56:05,879 --> 02:56:09,559
the metal comes in basically doing this
waltzing BN. I was like, ah,

2786
02:56:09,879 --> 02:56:13,040
this is this is gonna exhaust me. And then like to know that

2787
02:56:13,120 --> 02:56:16,079
we get Doctor Who theme time,
like oh yeah that is that thing where

2788
02:56:16,280 --> 02:56:20,799
like the synth tones in that and
the keybo metals in it are the most

2789
02:56:20,000 --> 02:56:22,799
out of like nineteen seventies Italian horror
movie, and like, I will live

2790
02:56:22,799 --> 02:56:26,200
in that shit forever, right,
because there is the section in the second

2791
02:56:26,239 --> 02:56:31,000
half of that song which literally sounds
like one specific part directly ripped from the

2792
02:56:31,000 --> 02:56:33,799
Goblin Suspirior soundtrack. I know,
the bit talk about and I'm like,

2793
02:56:33,840 --> 02:56:35,520
give me the Goblins of Spirit soundtrack. Cool, yeah, But I mean

2794
02:56:35,559 --> 02:56:41,319
it's because of this exhausting mix of
things has worn me down. It's like

2795
02:56:41,360 --> 02:56:43,159
the gallup part is like pounding along
with the bass, and the synth is

2796
02:56:43,360 --> 02:56:46,440
this kind of weird like alien fluctuation
part, and it's like, you know,

2797
02:56:46,559 --> 02:56:48,719
I've seen Goblin like a bunch of
times, because they turn up metal

2798
02:56:48,760 --> 02:56:50,760
festivals and stuff like that and they
talk and it's like you're at a metal

2799
02:56:50,840 --> 02:56:54,799
festival and you've got Goblin playing on
one stage and like some you know,

2800
02:56:54,920 --> 02:56:58,040
like fucking Merciful Fate or something playing
on the others. And if you don't

2801
02:56:58,040 --> 02:57:01,200
think that's a good mix of things, sorry, you're in the wrong camp.

2802
02:57:01,399 --> 02:57:05,479
Like it's just it's got this mad
energy and momentum as a track,

2803
02:57:05,520 --> 02:57:07,200
and it doesn't like it doesn't sound
similar, but for me, it reminds

2804
02:57:07,239 --> 02:57:11,200
me of the horrendous album in terms
of just like free spirited and eccentric.

2805
02:57:11,239 --> 02:57:13,639
It is like what we were saying
about, like this is having so much

2806
02:57:13,719 --> 02:57:18,959
fun playing music together because they've let
their imaginations go and they're capturing everywhere it

2807
02:57:20,000 --> 02:57:22,280
takes them on record. But with
this album, there is again that's very

2808
02:57:22,319 --> 02:57:24,040
specific theme and world that they've dialed
into, so they're not throwing in things

2809
02:57:24,079 --> 02:57:28,440
that don't make sense like it is. I mean, I literally only noticed

2810
02:57:28,600 --> 02:57:33,360
writing the fucking notes this particular run
through listening to record, I do a

2811
02:57:33,399 --> 02:57:35,399
bunch now that the final track is
ten minutes long, because it is just

2812
02:57:35,520 --> 02:57:41,719
a seamless string of like natural ideas
and evolutions and the melodies. You know,

2813
02:57:41,760 --> 02:57:46,479
Ghost on Prequel started doing these like
big seventies folk prog laced instrumentals with

2814
02:57:46,639 --> 02:57:50,840
like hell Vetta's fonster and all that
kind of stuff, with the really strong

2815
02:57:50,959 --> 02:57:54,879
keyboard melodies and guitar parts. This
is in terms of the lineage of it,

2816
02:57:54,040 --> 02:57:56,920
it's exactly the kind of shit that
Tobias would be inspired by to like,

2817
02:57:58,120 --> 02:58:01,000
you know, do that kind of
thing. Yeah, and I think

2818
02:58:01,040 --> 02:58:05,040
it's of a comparable standard. Like
That's the thing with this record is as

2819
02:58:05,120 --> 02:58:09,159
much as it is a laugh thrown
down to motorhead riffs and three note black

2820
02:58:09,159 --> 02:58:13,799
metal riffs that Venom would throw out
for being too basic, when you get

2821
02:58:13,879 --> 02:58:20,760
moments of real, atmospheric, multi
layered, textured beauty, it's, I

2822
02:58:20,760 --> 02:58:24,799
don't know, it just it elevates
the whole thing. So much accomplished this

2823
02:58:24,920 --> 02:58:26,440
I can't believe how accomplished they've got. And as songwriters and as players and

2824
02:58:26,559 --> 02:58:31,280
arrangers, it's just like, it's
a blast. This record, like this

2825
02:58:31,559 --> 02:58:33,239
stuff, to me, it's like
an anidote to all that is stale and

2826
02:58:33,280 --> 02:58:37,479
formulaic in metal. You know,
it's so energizing. Here is a bunch

2827
02:58:37,559 --> 02:58:41,239
of Slovakian ghouls in a castle in
the deep forest having the fucking time of

2828
02:58:41,280 --> 02:58:46,159
their lives making music that is good. You know, it's fun, it's

2829
02:58:46,200 --> 02:58:48,479
well written, it's imaginative, it's
surprising, it's you know, it's the

2830
02:58:48,520 --> 02:58:52,719
most necro thing we'll review today.
It is the most niche. But it's

2831
02:58:52,760 --> 02:58:56,760
so listenable for the just the breathless, colorful energy of it. So,

2832
02:58:56,200 --> 02:58:58,600
you know, if you don't like
prog, if you don't like eighties metal,

2833
02:58:58,680 --> 02:59:03,559
then sure, but my god,
the mix of things is like I

2834
02:59:03,559 --> 02:59:07,319
said, one of the most unique
imaginative things that we reviewed all you.

2835
02:59:07,520 --> 02:59:11,760
In fact, the band are called
Malacarpatan. This particular record is Vitumnus Caesar.

2836
02:59:11,079 --> 02:59:15,799
Thank you so much for listening.
Please let us know what you think

2837
02:59:15,840 --> 02:59:18,920
of any of these records if you
have not heard some of these bands before.

2838
02:59:18,079 --> 02:59:22,319
There is so much joy to be
had with a lot of these records.

2839
02:59:22,559 --> 02:59:24,440
And that is the last batch of
reviews you're going to get from us

2840
02:59:24,559 --> 02:59:28,079
for a little bit, because that
was the last one of the year.

2841
02:59:28,319 --> 02:59:31,760
We will let you know exactly when
we are going to be needing your help

2842
02:59:31,840 --> 02:59:33,319
for the album of the Year shows
and everything like that. We're going to

2843
02:59:33,360 --> 02:59:35,520
have you know, Hyperblast between now
and then so we can kind of flesh

2844
02:59:35,559 --> 02:59:39,719
it all out. But that is
of course what will be coming in December

2845
02:59:39,879 --> 02:59:41,559
the next couple of weeks on the
Patreon as well as our saw X and

2846
02:59:41,639 --> 02:59:46,120
Exus Believer does Horror. This week
we will have of course, the culmination

2847
02:59:46,159 --> 02:59:50,040
of the Allis in Chains special.
Please get your fucking Malacarpatan on, get

2848
02:59:50,079 --> 02:59:52,280
your nobro on, get your gasplat
anthem on. If you will, you

2849
02:59:52,319 --> 02:59:56,559
know, stick it, stick it
to one of us, whichever one of

2850
02:59:56,680 --> 03:00:01,079
us it was, who was negative
about some album you love, have the

2851
03:00:01,120 --> 03:00:03,520
fucking time of your life in it, and shake your fist at the direction

2852
03:00:03,639 --> 03:00:05,200
of one of us in particular.
Get on board for all of it.

2853
03:00:05,360 --> 03:00:07,840
We'll see for all of that we
got coming up with. Cheers.