What's good? Everybody was good after twenty twenty four? What's good? Bro?
What's good? Good people? Yo? It's the ninety four feet Podcast.
I'm here with my brother Keith. What's good? Yo? And we
signed to a one day contract. You know what I'm saying, a one
day contract on the ninety four feet podcast. Man, this is my guy
Chris. What off everybody? I'm happy to be here. Thank y'all for
signing me to that one day contract. I'm I'm coming off the bench like
Lou Williams. I'll be Lou will for a day. What's up? Retire?
But hey, Lou Williams was highly regarded as one of the best six
men that ever played the game. So you know what I'm saying. You
a step over low in my book. But uh, you know, Chris
in the building with it, and who knows, perhaps he might get another
contract if things don't change. Are out here, I'm out of this.
I ain't say nothing no for real. Shout out to our brother Zeke,
who is out of the out of the building today. I hope to have
them back next week. Happy New Year, everybody. How was the new
year? Man? How was the New year? My brothers I mean we
only was seven days in seven days in Well, how did you bring the
new year in? Man? How's it? How's the treatment so far?
New year is a new year, you know what I mean, new goals.
It's time to get started. A lot of milestones this year they achieve.
We got three hundred and what is it? Sixty eight days? No,
three sixty six? This year we got three sixty six. It's a
leap year. This is lybya That's how I'm trying to figure out what a
libya? Yeah, we got three hundred and uh fifty nine days. Let's
it, man, three hundred and fifty nine days to go. Let's do
it? Good people? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
ninety four Free Nation. Thanks for sticking with us on our road to one
hundred, y'all. Can you believe it? We've been doing this now going
on. This is our fourth year doing this. We'll celebrate episode one hundred
and several weeks and we're gonna do some stuff a little later in the year.
Uh, nothing big, just yet. But keep a watch, keep
it, watch, keep a watch. Let's talk to basketball. But whoever
thought, man, I know I'll be doing this four years? I mean,
how many times have each of us quit, I mean every times,
it'll be quit. How many times have we called an audible? How many
times that we said, you know what, you take the lead, you
beat a point guard. Listen, man, let the record show. I
don't mind playing shooting guard. I don't need to be charge. I'm just
saying I like being the superstar. Well, it's a superstar on the team.
Well, as long as you're the number two superstar like Lebron is to
m right, as long as you're that superstar. Yeah, in your books,
let's get into it. Listen, y'all, it has been a crazy
couple weeks in basketball. The NBA injury report is ridiculous right now. But
we're gonna go ahead and get started with the injury report. Go ahead,
keys, all right, let's run down the injury report, starting with the
Atlanta Hawks. DeAndre Hunter right knee information. He'll be reevaluated in two weeks.
I can't really say much about that because you know, the Hawks is
on a kind of a slump right now. So I mean, I guess
I'm Wessell Helper brother out the Celtics. Chris Chris snaps porzingis right eye irritation
day to day. You know that's lightweight for porzingis right there. You know
the nets been him is out back injury, back to being you know,
reevaluated in two weeks. The Bulls Alex Caruso neck injury, day to day,
and then that ain't nothing to play with man the Calves, Darius Garland
jaw injury out. I wonder how long you're gonna be out today? I
think I think January eleventh. He's uh, he's when he's just dealing with
an eye injury where he had like a bad eye injury. Nothing long ago.
When that last year last year. I and uh, he was out
sometime last year. Man, let me get some significant injuries. Evan Mobley
knee surgery on his left knee will be evaluate re evaluated in six to eight
weeks. And and that's a hopeful. That's a hopeful. Like and after
six six eight weeks is like minimum, and and and and that's that's a
knee surgery, bro, Like that is a knee surgery. Not not a
risk, not even a hand or finger. We're talking about your need.
Think the part of your body that you probably use most for the NBA.
He'll be a I mean, I guess that what do you call it?
Trade they're gonna go through no time soon. Then, well that's that.
That's that young nucleus the Cavs have with Darius Garland and Evan Mobley. Both
of them were out, but they still maintain it. I heard they had
what you call it on the market. Who Garrett, I mean not Garrett.
What's the big man? Oh Garrett? Yeah, Jared jack Jared Jackson,
Jackson Jackson jack Okay, Jared Jackson, Jared jack I heard he was
on the trader Larren Jackson. Jared Jackson was on Really he was on the
trade block. But I'm pretty sure they're gonna take that off, the offer
off the table. Well, because you gotta remember man and let you get
too off topic Cleveland. No, you're good. No, that's what we
do here. The first twenty minutes. We never pay attention. Usually we
start to show argue when talking about sneakers or something. But it's a new
year. We're trying to do some You know, when you think about the
Cleveland Cavaliers, man, they are fully aware that my man's PG what's his
name, our point guard, Donovan Mitchell. They are very much aware that
he is gone after this season, no doubt. They are very much aware
of that. So they have to do whatever they can to either build around
our big or or find some assets to help build for the future, because
once Donovan Mitchell leaves, Cleveland will experience those lebron those post lebron ars.
I'm telling you they are better off getting their trade for him. That's before
it's too late and he leaves nothing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We also got the MAVs with Luca questionable whether Acho injury is listen as
day to day. The MAVs are without six other players do the injuries.
That's so think about that. That's half their roster. That's half their roster.
Yeah, fourteen fifteen. I think it's twelve to fourteen. I don't
know how many of those are active. But if you take seven players away
from the MAVs, man might the forfeit that game. They might be on
the brinks of a tank in this season with that type of stuff going on.
The Warriors are without Chris Paul per usual, Jonathan Kamingo, and Gary
Payton. A third per usual Chris Paul. It just got announced right before
we came in. He's gonna be out about six to eight weeks himself.
Well, what he just had a surgery. He just had a major surgery
on it was either his hand, his wrists or his arm. And he
is going to be out a significant amount of time. And he has a
fact fracture in his left hand, so he has surgery. So he is
going to be out for I believe they said, you know, six eight
weeks as well, so Chris paul Man. But the Warriors, we'll talk
about it later. We don't tank time. The tank time for quite a
few times, to be honest. The Rockets, Dylan Brooks Torso injury.
How do you get that in basketball? I don't want to judge, but
how do you get a Torso injury in basketball going up for a rebound?
Yeah? I don't know Dyl Brooks, so I don't know. I don't
know what he did. He probably tried to take a file on somebody exactly
on Dylan. Shout out to Dylan Brooks. No shoutouts here where they didn't
need them last night. The clearly the Lakers are without Anthony Davis, per
usual, D'Angelo Russell, Rule Hatamur, and Gabe Vincent, who hasn't played
all season. He's sixty. The Memphis Grizzly is our wild John Moran is
questionable for tonight's game, while Memphis has five other players out as well,
so they are six down. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Zion
Williams is day to day, Joel Embiid is day to day, Robert Coverton
is day to day, Tobias Harris is day to day, Eric Gordon is
day to day, Boy Boyle is day to day, Kevin Durant is day
to day, and DeAndre a Ten is day today. Is there anybody playing
in the NBA, That's what I'm saying, is anybody want to show up?
Does anybody want to do they get? Do they get PTO? Well,
you know they don't get PTO? But if they are. What I
love about the new NBA rule is if you don't play a certain amount of
games, injury or not, you're not eligible for bonuses. You're not eligible
for those end season awards. So for all these players that are out and
listed as day to day, if it's a real injury, be injury right,
sit down, get healthy, get well. But if you're talking about
I'm just not playing because I don't want to play, yeah, come on,
man, this list, and I'm gonna tell you, when I was
compiling this injury report, shout out to Z who normally does this. It's
a pain in the butt because literally every team had five to six players By
the time I got down to the Memphis Grizzlies, I said, you know
what, other notable names because we would have been twenty minutes on a freaking
injury report. The NBA as much money as they make, and I know
we don't like to use the word bums. He got a lot of bombs,
bro, because I look at the names, like who, you know,
what's your favorite line? Who? Andre? Who? Like Bruh.
I didn't even know boy or Boyer even get minutes Boyle. In fact,
Shaq has been making an argument that he's just as good as Victor waight Old.
I think I saw that argument. I saw that, and I said
that they're just saying he's in the wrong situation. He's in the wrong situation
and he doesn't have the hype. Yep, he doesn't have the high I
don't know we're talking about minute bows, the late minute bows. Yes,
so man, well let's die intil I watched the highlights of him and their
game is very similar. And people keep saying, I've never seen a seven
foot of dude. What when Namaa is doing I watched some of Boyle Boyer
things after I've seen Shaq's interview, and he's doing the exact same things.
Yeah, he was actually a little bit more athletic if you asked me.
When it came down to his abilities. He just was on some rough teams
and and wrong and the wrong plays, wrong time, That's how I put
it. Yeah, that really does it. When you're in a bad situation
or not, I don't even know if I want to say bad situation.
When you're in a situation that does not help you grow, you're not gonna
shine. People are not gonna really see how you are and see what you
can do. So once you hit that that area, you get on that
team that you know may run, you know you may be a runner that
running team, and you can really show what you have, that's when people
start seeing. So yeah, I agree with that ball ball. I think
he is uh. I think he's pretty nice. Yeah. Yeah, listen
got the hype. Though he got the hype, but he also got the
tie. He got the talent. Man look like a baby Okay, listen,
no, no, no, let's call it what it is. He
made. He had several highlights on Yanni's all right, made him look like
a baby, posted him and crossed him twice. You gotta give him credit.
It happened. It happened, We watched it, We've seen it.
Yan's even sung the man's praises. But let's save that for Bucks Talk around
time. I can't wait for Bucks Talk shoot around. Draymon Green has returned
from suspension. Oh boy, do we think Draymond has served enough time?
Or is the NBA playing around early with his return? Now, for everyone
that doesn't know, Draymond has had terrible behavior. He's done a lot of
crazy stuff. But I think what finally got him suspended with him choking out
the choke coup didn't get him suspended, Yes, oh yeah, the issues
that he had with that uh, with with that player. So he served
twelve games all in all, supposedly went to therapy, He got some counseling.
Uh. What is next for Draymond Green? And does the time fit
the crime? Trade? Trade? Trade plus trade equals trade, give him
a trade? Got a trade? You know what I thinking about this?
And I have to agree. Excuse me, let me clear my throat.
I have to agree. I think they brought him back early so that he
could play a little bit. Teams can see him, they already know what
he brings, and then the Warriors can package a deal, they can get
him up out of here. I think it's done for him. I think
he's done with the Warriors. I think they're trying to get rid of him.
They're trying to get what they can and you know, let him play
a little bit, get back in the flow, and then ship them up
out of here at the trade deadline, before the trade that line whatever.
I agree, you know, I disagree because the Golden State Warriors have shown
that they are very loyal to Draymond Green. They are very loyal Steph Curry,
Klay Thompson, Steve Kurr, very loyal to Draymond Green. I think,
however, if you look at a timeline of Draymond's action starting with Jordan
Poole, right, and it keeps going, you dating back to Lebron when
he kicked him in the mid section. But now he's a Bron mid section
lover. But what ever happens there, happens Draymond Green is is the dog
that you want on your team, while his actions sometimes are over the top.
If the Warriors trade Draymond, they don't have a dog, right.
The Warriors are almost soft without Draymond Green. So I don't know that the
Golden State Warriors plan on trade and Draymond. But what I will say,
a twelve game suspension for assault right for assault of multiple players, and John
Morant got twenty five for carrying a gun in which he probably had the right
to do. Don't get me wrong, I still think it was a dumb
thing to do. His punishment certainly fit the crime. But to bring a
person back twelve games and say you're resurrected, you're healed, we believe you
now, we know that you're a change man. It takes life cycles of
therapy sometimes for people to change, right. It takes life cycles for you
to understand other than him missing a paycheck, We're gonna really you have to
watch a couple of these games to see if it's a true Draymond. But
that's where I go to the fact of what Chris said, like they're going
to trade him. They only brought him back so they can get him off
the books. And get that money back. They already know his actions should
be automatic done for the season because because he's done it for so long.
I mean, Draymond got a history. Boy, that brother got a history
of putting his hands on people like no other. And I think the Warriors
are done with him. I think the Warriors dynasty is done with I think
the Warriors have realized it is time to move on and bring in something else
new. Draymond and Wiggins are on their way out the door. And Wiggins
problem is he hasn't psychologically got over whatever that that event that happened off the
court person but personally whatever happened in that situation, he ain't been the same
since. So I got a feeling that Wiggins is on his way out and
Draymond is on his way out, and Clay won't return next year, and
they're gonna build some more players in to play around Steph in that young core
that they got. So if dray Mind's behavior doesn't change what happens next,
we're not just talking to Warriors NBA. I'm of the opinion that the NBA,
although they only gave him a pat on the hand with this twelve game
dray Min's behavior is on band level. Band like, if this behavior continues
and he doesn't approve, I can see the NBA showing him the door.
But that's that's why the Warriors are the only team that could take that gamble
to let him play a few games and prove itself so that they can bring
him back so that they can trade him. Because other than that, what
do you need him? Because I mean, he's not gonna make that big
of a difference where they're gonna win that many more games. The Warriors suck
today, they suck tomorrow, and they're gonna suck next week. The Warriors
are that's how they do Lebron. So that's so get off my second favorite
team. You don't have to be you have to you have to make it
there. But I'm just saying now, Steph is filling the raft of playing
with a bunch of scrubs and or a bunch of players who are just role
players, and you don't have that core like they had. They're wearing Steph
out. Steph look exhausted at the end of games. It is time,
you know, to bring in some younger, more active players. Tremont is
older too, so it's time for like the Kamingas and the little young guard
they got. I can't think of his name at the moment. Left handed,
he's pretty decent too. So So with that said though, there's also
reports coming out since we're talking Warriors that a lot of them are upset with
Steve Kerr with the minutes. They're upset with the minutes that they're getting.
So, you know, we talked about Golden State dynasty being over. When
do they say, Okay, Steve, it worked while it worked, but
now it's time for you to move on. So is Steve Kerr the problem
in Golden State or is it talent? It's Steve curR the problem. I
mean, have you all heard the rumors the reports about the players are being
upset, you know, not as bad as the Lakers. Like the Laker
problems, which we'll get to. Their agents are called on the front office,
like what the heck is Darvin Ham doing with which we'll get into in
a little bit. But is Steve Kerr? Is it time for him in
the Golden State Warriors to go their separate ways? Go ahead, Chris,
I think so. I think, all right, look really quickly, I
don't want to go too far back. But Dre, you just mentioned every
team needs a dog. Yeah, to all my pitt fans, I love
Yeah, I love pits. But when it starts to get pit level and
you know that you can't control the what do they do. I'm not saying
in this situation, you know you got to get rid of you might have
to get rid of Draymond. I think ban level. I think next if
he gets traded or if he comes back and does whatever again, he'll get
a year, I think, and they'll stick with that year, and then
after that they'll reevaluate some things, I think, and then the band comes.
Now moving over to Steve Kerr, I think Steve Kerr, I don't
know does he really coach? I think that was some of the things,
like, he doesn't coach, He sits back. He has a lot of
great things to say after the games. I think it's time for for yeah,
something new fresh blood. He's doing that he has that he thinks he's
Phil Jackson where he can sit there long enough and it'll correct itself. But
he doesn't have that ability now that he doesn't have the talent that he had
for the last six seven years. So now what I'm saying healthy young,
Clay young, Dre young, Steph. You know what I'm saying, y,
you know what I'm saying young KD because KD was at what four years
ago? Four years ago is a big difference in a career. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. Well, you know one of the things I think about
Steve Kerr maan, if you even look at sometimes arrogance is a downfall of
a person. Right where we grew up in church and we're taught pride brings
a man down low. I think Steve Kerr has spent too much time on
the sidelines being the popular coach or the coach would swag, right, because
you saw Andre Igudala coaching on the sidelines, right, You saw Steph in
his player's ear. So as long as Steph Curry is there, Steve curR
is untouchable. I personally believe that. I don't know that. I don't
want to say that Steve Kerr has lost the locker room because if Steve Kerr
was a black coach, let's let's take it there, you know, and
and and we're not a racist podcast, we love everybody. But if if
if Steve Kerr, Let'm not even say a black coach, if Steve Kerr
was any other coach, and that Jordan Poole footage would have leaked. What
if the he said he lost the locker room. We're firing the coach because
the coach let that happen. Steve Kerk no, no controlling that none,
no ownership. If that was agent Griffin, what will happen. Oh,
he'd been out of there quickly he be after the leak half an hour.
That was Agen Griffin. How fast well Egend Griffin had been out of that
organization. That's what I'm saying. And so Steve Kurk does not take ownership
of some of the actions of his players. And because we would have been
all over Griff he lost the locker room, Griffin gotta go like Griff fought
Terry Stotts. So they say, luckily there's no footage out there. Luckily
there's no footage. But the rumor Mills said him and Terry Stott got into
it because Terry Stott called over the players. Uh, the coach called for
a huddle, but Terry Stott stayed back to talk to some of the veteran
players, and Griffin felt disrespected that you're not respecting me as a head coach.
So they got into some words and that's what caused the breakup. Now,
if had that been physical, Griffin would have been out. I say
that to say I think in Golden State Warrior land, the issues with Draymond,
the reason that Golden State has continually to deal with them is because Draymond
has a protector known to Steve Kirk. Steve Kerr protects Draymond, He protects
his players, and I believe in the in the Golden State Warriors landscape,
Steve Kurr is untouchable. I'm just I hear you. I hear you,
Dre. I'm just wondering. So so you're saying, as long as Draymond
is there is around, Steve Kerr is good to go. I'm just kind
of wondering because I don't I don't know Steve nash got his walking papers with
the with Brooklyn. He should have never had it though he should have never
had a but awesome Steve kurt That. I mean, Steve nashan have the
resume that that Kerr got behind him to back him up a little bit.
You know what I'm saying. Those those four championships back you up a long
way as compared to Steve Nash coming in and he got nothing. But I
can bring up a name, Mark Jackson. That's all I'm gonna say.
So, Mark Jackson. Pissed off the wrong people, man, Mark Mark
Jackson, Mark Jackson. If he goes back and he repents to doctor Jerry
West and he admits that he was wrong for putting him out of practice and
and taking that hard tone with doctor Jerry West, all will be forgiven.
See and in the landscape of Hollywood, just like Milwaukee, a little bit,
just like kind of no right, just like kind of nonprofit tone.
We got insurance here, man, we got a death so close to my
elbow it might be broken. Was abotaged What's Up Injury podcast? And would
have just would have torn rotator in his elbow. It's just going. But
you know, Mark Jackson, you know, in my opinion, I think
we give him too much credit for being a good coach, and we give
him way too much credit. I ain't bring Mark Jackson, he'd give him
way too much credit. Yes, he helped Golden State, but so did
Phil Collins help the Bulls. But Phil, I'm sorry a duck Collins.
Phil Collins, one of the greatest singers of all time, Souse, I
confuse that Phil Jackson is the one that delivered the rings. Right. Rudy
tom Janovich had the Lakers, Okay, Byron Scott had the Lakers and got
the death stare from Kobe and was gone the next day. Phil Jackson brought
the rings. So coaching coaching matters. Jordan didn't deliver those rings until Phil
Jackson showed him how to master the triangle offense. Coaching matters, right.
Steve Kirk Klay Thompson didn't learn how to play off the ball into Steve Kirk
taught them that. So let's not act like Steve Kirk didn't bring the level
of coaching to the Golden State Warriors to help them win those four titles.
Now they were fouled for going out and getting kd after they okay, file
for going there, and then they have a winning record before the Steve Kirk
came in there, they had a playoff record. They had forty four and
in thirty eight and forty six and something I'm paraphrasing, But they weren't considered
dangerous until Steve kirricane and they continue to build their team to the draft that's
real. So you feel I said what I said, said what I said?
Moving on? Whoop, brace yourself, America, don't even do it.
Don't be that guy today. The Los Angeles Lakers have lost ten games
and only won four since the end season tournament. Are the Los Angeles Lakers
defenders or pretenders? Reports also indicate that Darvinham is at odds with his players,
and agents are calling for road agents are calling the office. What the
heck is he doing? My clients are not happy. This is a two
part hold up a second. This is a two part Lakers question. What
do we make up the Los Angeles Lakers? Because once they hung that banner,
it's like the Lakers quit and I'm gonna go ahead, no, let
our guess. All I want to say about the Lakers is yeah, that
the end season tournament championship. Okay, cool? Yeah, Ever since then,
I don't know what happened. They just I don't know, the bottom
dropped out and it just seems like that was their championship. Lebron is still
going hard doing this thing, but I don't know. They're missing a D
again. Gets hurt a lot. I know that was their chance. Yeah,
hotchi Morow is hurt, like a lot of their players are hurt.
Borre, he's hurt. I don't know. I just don't see. I
don't see much out of the Lakers. They don't scare anyone. They don't
have a dog. I don't think. I just I don't know a d
and Lebron together. I don't know how much longer we can talk about that.
You know, Darvin Ham, if Darvin Ham would have waited one year,
he could have been the Bucks coach one or two years, he could
have been the Bucks next coach. I saw what was happening. He left,
did this thing over there. He's doing this thing with the Lakers.
But I don't know he's if he lost the locker room in LA. That's
just tough for me to imagine. I mean, I know it's out there,
but he just seems to me like he's a hard nose. He just
wants the best for us players. He gets at you if you're not,
you know, giving it your all. If they don't like that, then
okay, let's package your deal for some of these you know, some of
these cats and get them up out of here. I don't know. That's
how I feel. The Lakers don't have a lot of assets. Though the
Lakers don't have a lot of assets, the Los Angeles Lakers have traded their
whole future. They've traded the whole future. They have nothing. There is
nothing attractive to the Lakers, not even Anthony Davis, not even Lebron James.
Because the only thing that makes Lebron attractive is the fact that you might
get Ronnie James. So Lebron can still contribute to a team. Yes,
but there are not people lining up to trade for Anthony Davis because he's too
inconsistent. Fact, you've said that, you you blame Anthony Davis more,
do you blame Lebron? Okay, first off, since you want to go
there, let's get on these Lakers. First off, they are pretenders.
I'm gonna go there, Okay, the Lakers on record, Keyzy said,
what the Lakers are pretenders. Lebron and ad have been pretty consistent this year.
They have not missed a lot of games this year. So you cannot
blame them this year and I'm not going to blame them this year. Go
ahead, go ahead. They got up, they got a lot of players.
A d and Lebron have to have shooters right in order to be successful.
They got a lot of players who are inconsistent shooters. That is where
their woes come in. So now you got he played twenty eight minutes,
but he only scored two points. I'm sitting on the bench and I can't
get those minutes, some of the minutes to try to bring us a couple
more buckets here and there. So then that's where Darvin ham is having his
issues with his rotations because he's given players who ain't producing too many minutes.
So where was the point where this happened? Because they won that end season
title and then they've been doing it all season. They just got lucky for
a few games nine and oh they didn't lose one game in in season tournament.
I just said they got But that's what the that's Lebron's wheel haul.
Tournaments, that it's his wheelhaul. That's where he's playoffs, that's where he's
he is the most dominant when it comes down to big games, he's dominant.
But if he don't have a supporting cast, and it just so happens
some cam Reddish had a good tournament, Ruey had a decent tournament. One
game, So you each player had a decent game in the tournament, so
that's what helped him with Lebron's ad played really well too, though I can't
lie, but he hasn't been injured as much as he normally is the Lakers
and I watched the guil Arena and he said it perfect. Lebron need to
get a garbage bag, take it in the locker room and put all those
trash players in that bag and take them out so Lebron gets a pass,
is what you're saying. Lebron hasn't change. He hasn't changed in twenty one
year years, as you've noticed. If you don't put the right stuff around
him, they're not going to succeed. It's just it's just playing and simple.
If he did make a comment to say his son could play for the
Lakers now, they probably could right now, he probably could with the way
they play. You got what's the dude name? No, the other dude
with the dark can do with the dreadge toyon Prince taking eleven threes a game?
How in in the h E double hockey stick is Torrian Prince taking eleven
threes? Do you see why some players might be getting upset if Torrian Prince
is taking eleven threes, but he's averaging like four points a game. What's
Austin Reeves doing? Like, wasn't he a man? He was Austin He's
doing this thing. He's he's it's Darvin Ham's fault because he put him on
the bench, tried to make him like their their something to come off the
bench. You're six man. Yeah, you paid him all that money to
come off the bench. No, you paid him to be in that starting
lineup with Lebron and a d. They fit together. Those three work together.
You just got to figure out those other two that go along with them.
Yeah, and and D'Angelo Russell was not consistent. Yeah, oh well
he's he's the most he's the most untradable player in the NBA right now,
in my opinion, with star status, right he's the most untradeable player in
the NBA besides maybe Dremond and James Harden. But the Los Angeles Lakers for
me, but if you can find a trade for James, you can find
a trade for Russell. I'm gonna be honest with you. To me,
the Lakers were only after winning the end season tournament. They celebrated like it
was a title they brought in Champagne. They raised a banner. I get
it. I was okay with it until they went ten lost ten games after
that to some bums, to some scrubs. The Los Angeles Lakers not only
are they pretenders, they are barely a playing team. There is no one
right now of the top six in the Western Conference that I have the Lakers
beating in a seven game series. They can't beat Minnesota in the seven games
series. Minnesota is too quick. You're too fast now with those too big
bigs Minnesota too. I said what I said, Okay, the Oklahoma City
Thunder with them, dog the Lakers. The Nuggets have already done it.
It's a repeat of last year. The Clippers hit her miss, hit her
miss. That might be the best matchup for the Lakers. The Kings have
already shown that they can own the Lakers in Dallas might be hit or missed.
Right now, the Lakers have fallen out of play in tournament. We're
getting ready to hit the half season mark, and the Lakers have to compete
to try to even get in play in now. Because if you're losing games
consistently to teams, you should beat what is that gonna happen when you start
playing contending teams? The Bucks, the Nuggets, right, the Suns,
the Clippers. So right now, the Los Angeles Lakers, to me,
they let that team just do whatever they wanted to do. They celebrated way
too early, and now they're feeling the faults of this. Now they're feeling
the faults of this. And so the Los Angeles Lakers, not only are
they pretenders, they better step up so they can become a playoff team.
But let's get this straight though, before you before you count them all the
way out, they caught them all the way I'm just saying, before you
count them all the way out. They didn't lose to some scrub. They
to a Memphis Grizzlies with a hot John Morant. But go ahead. They
lost. It's fox, But since John came back, they ain't been on
that losing street. He's one player, but go ahead, John Renn is
a lot dude. Uh. They lost to the Heat. They're not horrible.
Jimmy Butler didn't play. Next, they lost to the Pelicans. No,
Repelicans are not bombs. Okay, what are they standings? Right now?
You're six? Wis has been in and out. But okay, I
don't mind that one. They lost to the t Wolves. Okay, but
you said they can beat them. They only lost by two. I lost
as the loss. A loss is a loss, Okay, they just they
beat the Hornets before that team they're supposed to beat. Yeah, they lost
to the Celtics the game before that, the team they're supposed to lose.
They beat the Thunder Okay. They lost to the t Wolves okay twice not
yeah, Okay, So here's to say they ain't lost to some real life
people they shouldn't be losing to, and they're not getting blown out. They
just ain't closing out games, can't hit shots. So that's what it boils
down to. It's time that trade deadline is too close. It's time for
people to start making moves. But what does Chris No, I was just
gonna say, Drake, didn't you say that they have no trade assets?
None at all? None? So what do they do like if they don't
start with you know, I can't see I don't know if I can see
Lebron. I mean, it's happened before, but not making the playoffs,
just looking this bad, the whole team just being down and out that bad
last year. Remember didn't they make the playoffs? Though? They because they
made a late season run after they had the trade before the trade deadline.
See then they okay, but with no trade assets, that might not happen
this year. It's not going you know, it's not going to the Lakers
are a first round drive pick into what what was it, He's like twenty
twenty nine or something like that because they traded for Russell Westbrook or some other
stupid stuff. You know, the Lakers don't have a first round drift pick
for years. I don't believe someone have to fact check me, t if
you're watching dropping the chat when the Lakers' next first round drive pick is.
But let me tell you something. Nine is that it no twenty twenty seven,
brun that's four years away. That's four years away. And Lebron you're
not trading him. Let's be for real. And Anthony Davis, you're not
trading him. D'Angelo Russell is not a trade asset. He's tradable though,
he's not an asset. Though. No one's calling the Lakers about D'Angelo Russell.
Okay, the Lakers are calling teams about D'Angelo Russell. Hey, do
you want Russell? Do you want Russell? Russell makes eighteen million dollars and
puts up What is it with people with the last name Russell and putting up
bricks? Because that is what D'Angelo Russell does. He puts up bricks.
He was sad for the start of the season. I don't know what happened.
Yeah, he has always been inconsistent. Even when playing with Minnesota,
he has always put up bricks. But that's why they brought in gave Vincent
and he hasn't even played. That's why the Lakers got rid of him the
first time to attract Lebron because you were putting up bricks. And he came
back to the Lakers and now he's putting up more bricks. If you look
at his shooting percentage, it is got awful. The Los Angeles Lakers have
no trade assets. They do who reeves he's valuable, very valuable. Austin
reeves he's valuable. And I was gonna say, but why would you trade
him because he's like he could be like the future. I mean, I
know, he's a nice he's a nice roll starter. He's a nice roll
starter. He's not a franchise. No, he's not tagged, not at
all. What you think they can get for him, I mean you can
get you can get some decent for for Reeves. Puts In and Russell in
a deal. You can get a nice deal, okay. Or you put
Max Christie, Christy and Russell in a deal because he's young and he got
a lot of potential. So the Lakers have a couple of trade options.
It's just a point of which direction do you want to go? As la
Max Christie. No relation reminds me of Doug Christie for some reason. I
don't know. I'm just that's just off the record. I don't know why
I said no. I think I looked it up and it said it's no
relation. But yeah, he kind of reminds me of that bigger guard six
' five and just you know, just does a few things here and that.
So let me ask you this, what do we make of players being
at odds with Darvin Ham and agents calling the front office allegedly to complain about
Darvin Ham. Is that overstepping the line? Is that going too far?
Or is Darvin Ham screwing up the Lakers franchise that much? Because I make
no mistakes about it. Darvin Ham is no Steve Kerr. Darvin Ham is
no Greg Popovich. And one call from Lebron? What does the David Grooper
say? One call? That's all? One call from Lebron. The Darvin
Ham experience is over. And don't let these be a clutch sports players.
I don't know if they I don't know who the agent are, but don't
let these be Team Lebron players calling the front office. What do we make
of players now basically tattle telling and going above the coach's head going to the
front office. What do you make of that? That's been going on for
a while. This ain't that first rodeo? Is Darvin wrong? Here?
Do the Lakers need to make a coaching change? Is he part of the
problem? Is he part of the problem when the Lakers are four and ten
or four and fourteen over the last couple of weeks? Is he part of
the problem? Has he lost the locker room? Has he lost the ability
to leave the Lakers? All of these role players that can't shoot? Is
the problem? Every time I think about it? And I've seen that Torrian
Punch took eleven threes in a game I couldn't believe it. That's tough.
Yeah, I can get he's a three and D guy, but eleven,
that's tough to come back for it. And you only scored two points that
game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would have to say
that how far are we from that end season in season tournament? How far
are we from that? Uh? In season tournament ended around December ninth and
eleventh, so we're about a month about a month. It was all good
a week ago, you know what I'm saying. It was all good when
they were winning and doing that. I think some the injury bug kind of
got to them a little bit. Darkenham got them into the playoffs last year,
they won the nd season tournament this year, and now, you know
a little bit a few weeks down the line, everyone's now hurt, you
know, calling their their their agents to call. You know, I'm not
getting my playing time. Whatever injuries play apart. But I don't think you
can turn your back on Darvin Ham yet. I think you gotta give him
some more time, at least at the end of the season. Then we'll
see what happens the rest of the way from this point, and then after
that we can decide what they need to do. They already made their bed,
like you said earlier, Dre, they made their bed with some of
the trades that they had. You know, they have nothing to give anymore.
The all these people that they brought in, they're there. Nine shooters,
that's them. That was they call. So I think you stick with
Darvin Ham. I think he's a good coach from what I've seen when he
was here with the Bugs assistant coach and stuff like that. But you know,
maybe it is him, but I think you need to give him some
more time. Yeah, I don't. I don't like the players. And
I've always said this on this podcast for the past four years. Players get
an escape, coaches get a pat on their hand and they're out the door.
Right. They're always held to a higher standard, And I get it.
Darvin Ham. For me, you can't overlook it. He took a
play in tournament Lakers to the conference finals. They got sweat, right.
He took a hobbled Lakers to the n season tournament to win the championship.
It's a championship, whether we like it or not, it's a championship,
right, he took them. Now, if you don't like your minutes,
then asked to go somewhere else. There's a reason why Darvin Ham is trying
things out. Well, what I will say, Darvin four and fourteen,
since the play into tournament is not okay, and you better fix it fast.
You better fix it two weeks because Lebron James has a year or two
maybe left to play. And if he goes down on this tanking or sinking
lakership, Darvin's going to go down because Lebron James, unless he he's injured.
Lebron doesn't have losing seasons. He doesn't have losing seasons. He has
championship seasons. He has finals appearances, he has conference finals appearances. And
you're losing games and players are starting to complain about minutes that they can't talk
to you. That is the first sign of a lost locker room when your
agents are calling. But you know why that is. I don't Darvin Ham.
Don't play no games, y'all. No. He he is like the
Tasmanian devil. He will tear stuff off the walls. I'm just gonna say
it like that. And I can feel that you can be intimidated by a
coach who has a dominant personality like Darvin Ham. You wouldn't feel comfortable going
to ask for a minute because you don't know what it's gonna outcome. Gonna
be Yeah, because Darvin Ham ain't gonna take no mess. Yeah. At
the same time, but at the same time, dovern Ham got to do
something about this rotation? Yeah, it's bad. It's bad. It's horrible.
It's bad. It's almost like chick ag League team. The Lakers are
horrible to watch, especially if Lebron is not playing right. The Lakers are
horrible to watch. And you know, Lakers have old money, right,
they have old fans. The old Laker money ain't gonna stand for that.
Jenny Buss has already made a statement that they stand behind Darvin Ham, that
she's standing behind him. But we've also heard Mike Dundley v say Jordan Pool's
a part of this team and he was out the door of what two days
later. So it's good for now, but Darvin better changing He better change
it quickly. Trade rumors are going crazy right now. One of the biggest
things on the market is Pascal Sayakam. The two teams that are most interested
are the Detroit Pistons and the Indiana Pacers. What is his trade value?
In which team needs him most? Who would you like to see him traded
to? First of all, I admit I didn't know his value was that
high. I did I know Sayakam people were breaking the bank for Pascal Sayaka.
What is his trade value? You know why he's so high. He's
sixteen, he can handle the ball, He's an elite defender, and if
you really need him to, he can score. What's his season stats?
Man? Put pull up his season staff, Chris? What you think man
about Sayakam and his value? And in which team? You know what?
I like Saakam. I think that the Golden State Warriors if they get him
to go with Steph, to go with Clay, I think you can.
I mean, I would try to get I'm I'm gonna stay on it.
I would try to get Draymond up out of here for Saokam. Draymond maybe,
And what we say earlier, Wiggins, you know what, I don't
know. I don't know if that can happen, but should should we try
that? But I would like to see him with the Warriors. I don't
like him to see him with Steph. Yeah, and Clay. So he
wasn't linked to the Warriors yet, but he could be. That's a good
that's a good analogy when I looked it up. Right now, the Kings
were the number one team, but they dropped out because they said Toronto wants
too much, uh for him. So now it's it's the Pacers and the
Pistons. So for me, no one wants to go to the Pistons right
now. You send that man to Detroit, you would kill his career.
You would kill his career if you send him where to Detroit? Yeah,
he's done, you give me. Yeah, he returned. Could you see
what happened? Was to call it? When he went there? Who's at
Blake? Oh man? Oh man? Yeah, think about it was Blake
still had a couple of years left for him, but he wanted Detroit and
in roady math. That's it. So if you want to kill the man's
career, then you send him to Detroit. The Detroit Pistons are three and
thirty two, right, three and thirty two already eliminated from playoff contention,
Wow, already, Like NBA never does it that early. They're already eliminated
from playoff. They're not, but they're at point eighty six. Is averaging
twenty two, six and five. Yeah, the them some decent numbers.
I like him with the Detroit I'm sorrying with the Indiana Pacers. And I'm
gonna tell you right now, I said at the beginning of the season,
and I'm eating my words now, I said, ain't nobody worried about the
Indiana Pacers. If you add say I come to the Pacers, the Pacers
are a problem. Yeah, the Pacers are already a problem. I can
admit to it. Now. Halliburton is a problem. He's a pest,
but he's a problem. For who are you giving up if I'm the Pacers.
When you look at right now that you are having a good run,
that you are beating one of the favorites to go to the NBA Finals,
and you're not just beating them, you're beating them in a in a dynamic
fashion. You feeld now when you give up some of those future assets?
Right? So, if I'm the Pacers, I would look at some draft
picks. I would look at some of those role players that are not like
super valuable to your team. But adding say I come to Indiana, I
believe would make them a favorite in the Eastern confege. But you got to
give up something to get him, because he ain't gonna just said that,
but but you gotta give up something, not not to give up a little
something. You gotta give up something. Yeah, So who are you going
to give up? If you're Pacers, is the question? Buddy healed,
you got it. They've been trying to give him up for a month,
so that's okay. But but if you're Toronto, are you gonna take Buddy?
I would if say I come once, I absolutely I'm gonna take buddies.
Buddies is a is A is a shooter and Toronto needs help scoring they
need a shooter. He should, but he doesn't shoot a high efficiency.
Here's the thing. Here's the thing. If you are known, if you're
going to lose, sayakam anyway, you have to try to get something before
you get nothing, right, you have to try to get something. And
so if you think about who the Pacers trade assets are, obviously it's not
Halliburton, right. He is their superstar, he is the future. He
is there Reggie Miller of the nineties. He is their guy in the order
to keep him happy and to keep him not considering other teams you have to
look at upbreaking a piece in so you can look at another name that's on
the table, and people may not like it. But if i'm the Pacers,
I'm adding Miles Turner, Miles Turner and Buddy Hill give me, say
I come and give me a future draft pick. Can we call it even?
Oh? And we call it even? Because who would you rather have
playing next to Halliburton, Miles Turner or SAA. I'm taking SAA. I'm
taking Miles Turner. Chris with your commentary, I'm gonna have to keep Miles
Turner. I'm thinking of giving up someone like I don't know, like Obi
Topping, and possibly I'll give up topping it and Hide. I'll give up
Toppling and Buddy. But to give up Turner, that's a lot, is
not to replace. That's a lot. Turner does a lot in their victories
and him being able to stretch the floor as a five, it's big for
Halibert. He makes it easy for Halliburt because they're picking roll it's through them.
That's a good point. Think about it, because if you help out
on Hallibert, either Turner's going to slash because he can finish at the rim
or he's gonna pop and he's gonna shoot it and he shoots at a high
clip from the three. Or if you drop and you and you take Turner
and you and you get Hallibert that space, he'll shoot it. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, So you're not letting go of Miles. I'm keeping Miles
Turner. I gotta keep him. He's the big man, he's the center,
and you know he's gonna do everything that Queas just said. You know
so. But but if you think about adding Sayakam and you get rich Okay,
say they pulled it off and you have Sayakam, you have Turner and
Hallibert. Now you got a problem because Turner and Sayakam sort of play the
same position, power forward center. No, you put you put Siakim at
the four, you put Turner at the five. And you don't believe none
of their stats are impacted by playing on the same team, the two of
them. Yes, No, how keys, how what do you mean they're
the same player? Essentially, I'm gonna say they're the same player, the
only different squad. No. I think that someone is going to some scoring
is gonna drop off for one of them, whether it's Siakam, whether it's
Turner or Halliburton. I mean, you know, it's not gonna be as
fluid anymore with those three. If those three were there, I think it
wouldn't be It would be kind of like a clogged up lane. Then they
would go from being small too. Now you got a problem. The problem
is what people don't understand is has never been a player who needed a play
call for him. Seacam has never been the player who offense was built around.
Siakim just the type of player who fits in where he fits in.
He doesn't have a problem with that. That's why he has stats across the
board. Think about it. And he can shoot from the three. He's
not great, but he can shoot it. He also can handle the ball
and take some pressure off of Halliburn at points. You know what I mean,
when haliber goes to the bench, So they got some young players to
go along with that. If say, I can want to get his money
when Halliberg goes to the bench, or Turner goes to the bench, or
the vice versa. When he goes to the bench, the other players step
up. It would make Indiana more dangerous if you brought him in there.
But I don't see Indiana getting him, and I I like Hallibert, but
I think the hype is gonna be gonna die down in a minute. I
think the hype is gonna die down in a minute. I like him,
but I just don't think he as good as everybody making him seem to be.
So you think he's going to it's gonna catch up with him, and
you know he's because he's because my only thing is he's not flashy. He's
not lightning quick. That's that's that set shot ain't gonna continue going down for
him. It ain't gonna in that set shot. He so slow. It
is though at some point they're going to figure it out. Sometimes they take
him a season to to figure out a player and then they just fall off
the map. But we shall see if he can, if he can continue
to do what he do. I commend it, but I just don't see
it. He's better than I thought. Well he's he's doing better than like
you said, Like I said, he doing better than I expected him to
do. And I'm just I don't see it being a longevity thing. I
see it being a temporary thing. To me, he is a thrown in
Giannis aside that's for sure. He's under He gets undery on his skin,
so he's he's accomplished that. So it'll be a test to see what happens.
We say, come but uh. Moving on, Orlando Magic have announced
that they are playing to retire Shaquille o'news jersey. I should have been did
that? Is Shaquille O'Neill deserving of a jersey retirement of the Magic? Chris
go ahead, bro Absolutely so the Magic. That seption of the Magic was
at eighty nine. Shaquille came in ninety two, right before Shaq got there.
The big attraction was Disneyland or Disney World. My bad Shaq came and
for those four years he was in Orlando playoff team or he took him to
the finals in ninety five All Stars beat the Book. Yes, yes,
took him to the finals, I think, averaging what twenty seven a game,
twelve rebounds? Like he brought all the numbers, He brought the he
brought the fans out to Orlando. Before he got there, wasn't really you
know much going on there. Yes, you you It is right to retire
this man's number. Superman should be retired in Orlando thirty two. So here
here's my take before keys goes on. I am very selfish when it comes
to retirements, very selfish. We had a show uh asking about ray Allen's
retirement in Milwaukee. I said, the Bucks owe him nothing. He did
nothing for us. He didn't win a title. He he had three point
contests. We almost went to the finals, but we didn't win anything.
We won some games. Okay, no one's ever sat down. Man.
Do you remember that game ray Allen shot the three and took us to the
finals to face Philly. But they do, say, you remember when ray
Allen hit the three to help Miami he win the championship. They're Orlando Magic,
Oh Shaquille O'Neil nothing. They should not retire that jersey. However,
I see why they are. He's deserving. But if they didn't do it,
people shouldn't be upset about it because he left. He left them hanging,
y'all know that's my punchline. I hate when people leave people hanging.
He left them hanging. I remember, I said, because it's a small
world, but I remember someone in the business world left me hanging and came
back and thought everything was gonna be okay. I'm like, oh, we'll
show love. You know what I'm saying, We'll drop up. But no,
you left me hanging. I'm not going back, you know what I'm
saying. Same with the Orlando Magic. He left them hanging. He went
to LA, he saw the bright lights, the bright stars, and he
killed in LA. So they retired his number. Miami should do it if
they haven't done it. But I don't necessarily think Orlando has to do it
because let's not act like we're always talking about teams here. Orlando at the
time had one of the best all around teams in the NBA. They had
Nick Anderson, right, they had Anthony Hardaway right, they had Scott Skiles
on on his latter years, right, they had Dennis scott Man. Orlando
had a roster. Shaq did change the game. So from a business standpoint,
you'd be a fool for not to retire his jersey because everybody else is
gonna do it, right, But Orlando owes him nothing. They do Why
Why? Because before Shaq came there, nobody cared about Orlando. Besides the
gother Disney World. You wouldn't even Orlando wouldn't even be on your top destination
for vacation. Spots until Shaq came there and became a dominant presence. So
therefore you automatically owe him just off of that in itself. You know how
many tickets he sold for the arena, You know how much money he made
for that organization. The Orlando Magic jersey right now is a rep is a
throwback because of Shaq. Otherwise, outside of Shack, who else you're gonna
who throwbacks jersey? Do you want that played for Orlando? M the player
that they say never lived up to the hype. He didn't, He didn't
injury. He was a baller, right, But Shaq was dominant. He
was a forced to be wreckon with. He changed the game of basketball because
of his size and his abilities. The greatest big man that ever played the
game. But do you really think after four years he deserves a retirement after
only giving that team four years? If Dame Lillard doesn't win a title here
and he only Dame has what two years left on his contract? If Dame
doesn't win a title here he only stays here two years, do we retire
his jersey? It's different? How different? Come on, man, No
give me a reason much for one? How long have the Bucks been around,
not years, years, year, many years. The Magic were in.
You know, they were around for what three years before Shaq came?
Nothing was going on. They didn't have anything to go off of. You're
an expion expansion. There you go. Shack brought it all. I think
you got to and then on top of that, took him to a title,
or took him to a finals. They didn't get the they didn't get
the chip, but he took him there. They had they had a great
team. I think you gotta I think you have got to definitely retire that.
Like this, who's more Before you answer who's more valuable? Who was
more valuable to Orlando Magic, Dwight Howard or Shaquille O'Neill. Before you answer
who was more valuable? Who gave that team more shack lies? Shack lies?
Because listen to this, Chris, I was gonna say, Okay,
here's I'm stipid, go ahead to jump in. What more did the White
dude than Shaq did? Because they both took their teams to the to the
finals. Didn't they go? Didn't the White take them to the finals.
He went to the conference final, he went to the NBA Finals and loss
of the Lakers. He had a squad. Uh there, Yeah, Lewis
Lewis, he had Jamiir and Nelson, they had a squad too. Yeah.
I think Shaq come on, could think just think of it like this,
Dre without shock they coming in that the dispension team, they'd already had
three bad seasons, right Yeah. Do you think they still exist right now
if Shockton come in and have his presence on that franchise, because they be
gone like Seattle is right now Vancouver exactly, they be gone like the Grizzlies.
They be Vancouver Grizzlies. They be gone, and they be gone like
the Seattle SuperSonics. Here's they be out of here. They would have never
even been at the White and Orlando. Here's why I say that, Shaquille
O'Neill, No, that's real. Give me, you're my guess. Okay,
let's let's let down. You know, you know it's I'm gonna give
the ball. You can get the flight in the way. Listen to White
Howard though, and I'm not all the people in the listening to Chris to
Marquis, to Zeke, to Terrence to Tom. I am not saying that
Dwhite is better than Shaq, but the White's contributions to Orlando compared to Shacks
were way better. How many years? How many I'm gonna get there?
Dwhite Howard while in Orlando delivered three Defensive Player of the Year awards. Three
while in Orlando, Okay. Dwhite Howard averaged a near triple double while in
Orlando. Nearly every season that he played for the Magic. The Magic were
a playoff team nearly every season that he played with that team. The only
reason he left was because of his feud with stan Van Gundy. Now what
I'm saying is, if you're gonna retire Shack, you dang show better retired
to White Howard because he made the Magic relevant again. How long was he
in Orlando? He played his most of his career until he got older.
But he played in Orlando UH one, T two, four, six,
eight, eight seasons in Orlando before he was traded around the league. Eight
seasons in Orlando. He played eight seasons. They got no championships, went
for they have no championships and still did not get a title. He did
he got all those defensive player of the years didn't or whatever you know,
and didn't He didn't get a chip I don't think, not with Orlando.
No, not with Orlando mand Wight. Go on. Now that's a difference.
He might not he might not get he might not get no retirement,
you know what I mean. Just I'm just saying, I'm being real.
He might not get one because of it, because all this stuff that's going
on him. Listen, I'm going to say this, Orlando. Is it
a worthy thing that they're doing. Absolutely, it's shocked the all time greatest.
Yes, But I don't think anyone loses sleep if they don't retire his
jersey. Is he Worthy's sure? But I don't think they owe him that
they do. I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't hate
left. He became great. He was great before he left, but he
went and been great somewhere else, and then he went somewhere else. Have
been great when he was a record breaker, he was breaking down realms.
Yes. So if you're so, this is what I'll say. Orlando retire
his jersey because he's in a he's a once in a lifetime player, not
because of the contributions he gave to the team, because there were none.
There was besides relevancy. What there wouldn't be no Orlando Magic right now.
Okay, he gave them a chance to extend their life expectancy. Because when
when most when most expansion teams come, if you're bad for the first five
years, non ti ten, they move you. Oh yeah, look how
many times how these cities that the Grizzlies been too. Bro The only expansion
team that has worked, I think for the past couple of years, it's
been Toronto. Right in Vegas would work because it'll have Lebron's money. But
you know, I'm not I'm not down playing what Shaq has done for Orlando.
It's take it like this. It's in that same boat, like Oklahoma
City with KD. Without KD, that team would have lost. It's franchised
without those key players. You get what I'm saying, Like Oklahoma City because
Seattle lost out and they became Oklahoma City. Right Yeah. Without KD,
Oklahoma City would have been done. They would have been done, They'd have
been finished. Without Shaq. Orlando would have been finished without Vince Carter.
No Toronto, No Toronto. I get that, you know what I'm saying,
Like there's certain players who do certain things for a franchise and saved them
Shack saved them. Well, you know, loyalty means a lot to me,
and I just don't think Shaq was loyal. He wasn't loyal to Orlando,
just like Ray Allen wasn't loyal to us. Okay, while you over
there talking, just like Carmela wasn't loyal to the Knicks. Okay, just
like Phil Jackson wasn't loyal to the Knicks. Right, Just no, no,
no, no, Because you're over there on pay per view giving your
commentary. You know what I'm saying. Let's talk about the Nick. Well,
the Knicks how good? How about the Knicks were good? The shots
have fire? Christ he was just Cleveland Brown's hat, all Like, what
what? What? What are you trying to prove her on that Cleveland Brown's
hat. Man, I was gonna say, Lebron loyalty he gave. You
know, he was loyal to the Calves. He left, went to Miami,
did his whole thing, and then came back and got him a title.
So, Dre, I see what you're saying about Shaq never bringing the
title home. But I don't know if Lebron came back didn't get the Caps
the title, what will we not retire his number, Lebron. I think
the difference is Lebron didn't give for Lebron here eight seasons, and the white
did too. We're not talking about the white. I'm just saying he's talking
about uh Sha, I know. I'm just saying you're talking about the white
gay. I'm saying you saying the white argument is on the wrong scale.
I'm just saying, think about you saying the white did eight years. Lebron
did eight years and they were in the finals seven of them. You're talking
about the white. Did you know the finals one time? You know what?
The White couldn't get to the finals because of the Lebron stopper. The
Lebron stopper. But anyway, man, let's get into Bucks talk before we
wrap it up. And here's one that I'm really interested in, you know,
because we're all hometown guys. Uh are the Indiana Pacers the Milwaukee Bucks
kryptonite? The Pacers are four and one versus the Bucks this season, including
in season tournament. If they were the match up with the Bucks in the
playoffs, could they beat them? Could they beat the Bucks in a playoff
series? No? First answer. The first part of the question are the
Pacers the Bucks kryptonite. Chris, you said you gotta lot to say on
this. I guess we'll let you go first. Are they see that they're
they're the bucks kryptonite until the Bucks decide that they want to play small like
the Pacers. If they continue, will and our Brook Lopez and Chris middles
will because that's how I feel. They play pretty slow and they can't keep
up with the Pacers. I think for now, until they do something different,
all right, let me let me go back. I didn't want the
Bucks, and this might not be popular opinion, but I did not want
the Bucks to re sign Chris Middle or brook Lopez. I think it was
time for a change from last year. Yeah, you play a certain way,
you end up losing or No. You gained Dame Lillard, you lose
Drew, so you you know, we know what happens there. You gained
some scoring, but you lose some defense. The big guy Brooke to me,
he just played slow. He he's a good player, he can shoot
from the outside, he can defend. I just think they need a change.
Chris, he's hurt a lot, and I just think he's slow on
defense. But until they do something about that, Yeah, the Pacers are
there kryptonite. Mm hmm. I said, wait, wait, oh,
my see. I usually don't like to agree with ours when they come to
my Bucks, but when you get to talking about trays that I should should
have happened a long time ago. And I've been saying this how many seasons
straight now three? I've been saying Chris Middleton should have been on the trading
block two seasons ago. It got somebody younger. They can do exactly what
he do. But is they the Bucks kryptonite? No? I think the
Bucks already allowing them to do what they want to do, just so when
playoff time come, they can't figure them out because it's because almost it's almost
inevident you're gonna have to see them some point in the playoffs, true,
and playoff Giannis is different from it regular season Giannis. Playoff Chris is different
from regular season Chris. And we all know big Shot Dang is gonna step
up to another level when the playoffs come. So I think the Bucks are
kind of like testing things out when it comes to Indiana because they feel like
they're in an area right now where they can do that. And it might
because we have we do have problems with younger teams, and we can go
younger if we really needed to, But the Bucks like to stick with what
they stick with until they really have to. But like you said, this
season, if we don't win, if Chris is on that roster next year,
it is going to be a big problem for the Bucks and they won't
be able to get rid of them. Then I'm gonna say this. I'm
going to say this because y'all know me. I am probably the most objective
Bucks fan that y'all probably know a long time. She's the ticket holder.
When they're playing great, I say they're playing great, when they're playing trashy,
I say they're playing trashy. Milwaukee. You know you always hit the
ticket holder. You said it on every episode. We're saying as long as
y'all know, as long as y'all know who, the real point is.
So the point is, are they the Kryptonite? Absolutely? Absolutely? Uh
we we we. We did not take the Miami heat serious last year.
Look what happened year before that. I'm not gonna count that because it was
Boston the year before that. We swept Miami. Year before that, we
didn't take Miami heat and they beat us, the Milwaukee Bucks have to absolutely
take the Nyanipacer series. So your theory is that this is all a plan
is stupid. You should not have said that. That was not one of
your best lines. It was a terrible one. Okay, So back,
I didn't say that. I'm just hoping that's what they're doing. Well,
thank you for saying hoping, because that that that was because Janni's was offended.
He was offended how Halliburton was laughing at them on their home court.
He was offended how Halliburton posterized him multiple times. The Bucks as an organization
are starting to even question the equipment manager's role in all these losing games.
Yanni said, it starts with the equipment manager. Maybe he's not washing our
clothes well enough. Now, obviously that shut up. Yes he did,
Yes he did. Obviously that's probably sarcasm. But the Milwaukee Bucks better not
sleep on the Indiana Pacers because they're showing that they can't beat them. Okay,
it is what it is. I didn't do it, the records did.
Okay. Right now, as it stands, the Milwaukee Bucks cannot beat
the Indiana Pacers. And here's what I see it's a matchup problem. It's
a matchup problem, right. Uh. You put Halla Burdon on you and
it's fine, But they're Miles Turner can't Brook can't keep up with him,
right, you know what I'm saying. Uh, the Indiana Pacers, Actually
he can. Miles Turner is not really that I'm telling you. The problem
is that young dude they got. I can never think of his name.
Uh, Benedict Matthern. He is a problem for the Bucks. I don't
know what it is. When he plays the Bucks. He is a match
up problem because if you go small, he outpowers the Smalls. If you
go big, he out He's quicker than the Biggs. So he's he's the
problem in our matchup, along with Halliburton having good games. At the same
time, it's rough and it's like they want to beat the Bucks. They
like they want to play that. Everybody want to play their hardest against the
Bucks. When you play Giannis, you want to play your hardest. When
you play Lebron, you want to play your hardest. When you play KD
you're gonna play your hardest. Yeah, But in a series that's a lot
different, a lot tougher because the game slows down, and that goes for
everybody that running gun doesn't happen in the playoffs like that, like Indiana's doing
and beating us doing the regular season. All I'm saying is we're a worse
off defensive team. Yes we don't have we score, Yes we we we
score, but we're letting the Pacers put up one hundred and forty points,
one hundred and thirty points. Our Dame scores thirteen and and Giannis gets a
double double and Chris Middleton maybe shows up to work. If this happens in
the playoffs, and your words adopted from Shaq, the Milwaukee Bucks are barbecue
chicken. The Indiana Pacers are not a team right now. I'm not saying
that it can't get better, but we should be very concerned about a matchup
against the Indiana Pacers in the playoffs. The Bucks are losing. Do we
lose to the Spurs that we actually steal that one? We beat the Spurs.
We lost to the god awful Houston Rockets last night, the Houston Rockets,
So hold up. Sometimes the cred rock hit a rock and it's rocked
four times for the Pacers. Okay, And if we get in the playoffs
and we have to match up with those Indiana Pacers. It might not be
the outcome we're hoping for it. That's all I'm saying. Now we have
all up. We got half a season of fix it keys. Okay,
I get half a season. I get you, But don't knock the Pacers
and the ability to score, because they ain't only put up numbers on us.
They put up one fifty on the Hawks US. Okay, wait,
wait, wait, wait, wait, go back. The Hawks don't have
Giannis, don't have Dame. Next, come on, they put up the
Knicks. Okay, who also just did a ridiculous dumb trade. We didn't
put that on the docket. But what were the Knicks thinking trade their talent
for? I don't even know who they got. But let's talk about rebuild.
But that wasn't that wasn't smart at all. On the Hornets without a
little man, one little man with the fine Instagram check LaMelo ball, Yeah
yeah, yeah, yeah, God still working on me. I'm one hundred
and thirty on the Clippers, okay, one hundred. So you're proving my
point. You're proving my point because if Yiannis doesn't show up and Middleton has
an off night or Dame has an off night. You know, they're good
for an off night every three or four games or so. In the NBA
playoffs, the Bucks don't fix the woes that they're struggling with, whatever that
is. The Indiana Pacers will mess around and eliminate the Bucks from the playoffs.
They are absolutely on the heat too this season. They are absolutely all
cryptoi. So I take back what I said at the beginning of the season.
I said, and I'm sure my boy Zeke has a voice memo somewhere.
I said, no one was afraid of the Indiana Pacers. No one's
gonna take them serious. And now I stand correct. Didn't say that about
the n You did. You were the only one at the table. No,
I think you and I agreed that no one is gonna take them serious.
I think Zeke was the one that was like, what what y'all crazy?
No? I said that, go back and listen, keys. You
know, if you said it, I would tell you said you agree with
me. I said Indiana and the Lakers. Remember no, I said Indiana
and BA Lake, And I said the Lakers would have lost to what you
call it? Who did they play? I don't remember, but we both
were on the same train. I didn't say the bus. I knew the
wouldn't win in the season to turn No, no, no, we were
both You did you picked Indiana and a Sacramento. Yes, I said,
those two young teams you're gonna have to watch out for. Yeah, yeah,
that's what. Yeah. So here's another controversy one, and we'll wrap
up in a few with this. Is this Milwaukee Bucks team a team we
trust to win a title in twenty twenty four, Chris from what I've been
watching, No, I mean I know we still have Oh yeah, yeah,
I know we still have some time. Like it's still some time.
All right, let me let me put no asterisk. There's still a lot
of time left for them to get it together. But I don't see the
Bucks playing defense. I don't know what it is, but the defense is
just not there. And yeah, we can all you know, blame it
on Drew being gone, but they're just they're not showing up on defense.
And then have you all seen like Dre you just you just kind of mentioned
it. But they go on these laws where they miss shots like it even
happened in the end season tournament against the Pacers, they start missing shots and
you know, you can't get a bucket. Giannis will go and do his
euro step and then you know, miss it off the backboard. The team,
you know, the opponent to get it go down score. They'll come
back Chrystal miss a three, They'll get a rebound, pass it out to
counterton Hill miss a three. Like they'll go through these laws where they cannot
get a bucket at all. So I don't know right now, I don't
know if I trust them to win another title this year. Right now now
again they can get it together. I don't know if they're looking to,
you know, make a trade or anything, bring someone in here that can
knock down some shots they got damn Yeah. But right now asterisk No,
I don't trust them to win it. Asterisk Kesey, Well you think can
do we trust this team to win a title in twenty twenty four. I
trust them. And the only reason I say that is because even with our
record that we have, we still number two in the West. I'm saying,
like, even with our record, we would still be number two in
the West. Either way it goes, we would be number two in the
East or number two in the West, and with the Bucks at number one
is when we flop in the playoffs because the first time was Boston and the
second time was Miami. We were number one. We don't need to be
number one. We need to lose some games to humble us a little bit
before the playoffs because there are some arrogance there in the Bucks. You're saying,
Yeah, the arrogance of like you think, like every time every game,
you're gonna come out to shoot that many damn threes and win games.
It's not gonna be that all the time. So the Bucks got to figure
out a way. Well, they know how to do it, they just
don't do it often enough. Yeah, and Adrian Griffin has to coach.
Yeah, Adrian Griffin has to do better. He has to put his foot
down the till and stop shooting all those threes, because that is the biggest
issue with the Bucks. When they lose, they shoot horrible from the three
and they lose, and that is not how to win games. The Bucks
are shooting thirty to forty three is a game we were at a game I'm
just going said think about that game was at and they were shooting twelve percent
from and they kept shooting, and they kept shooting. No one took the
ball in, no one went in for the layups, no one took the
twos. They kept shooting for the Milwaukee Bucks. What I'm gonna say is,
I absolutely think I've already spoken on the Pacers being to krypt nine.
They are absolutely the Rypto nine. So you could come on, we're about
to wrap up. They are absolutely the Kryptonite. Adrian Griffin needs to coach
better. So this is not just on the players. Okay, Adrian Griffin
has to coach batter. I don't see a coach. I see an apprentice
out there that's struggling to gain the attention of his team, that's struggling to
gain the attention of the talent that he's coaching. Bobby Portis is going off
on him in the locker room. Players on a bench are not even respecting
the calls that he's making. So Adrian Griffin needs to figure out what the
heck the Bucks need to do. The general manager, Brian not Brian Windhorse,
whoever our GM is, he needs to say, Okay, this rotation,
this Dame experience, as great as it is, we need another piece
here. We gotta have a shooter Brook Lopez. I like Brooke, but
I do start to see the windedness. I'm starting to see it now.
Brook is a killer on defense, a killer, but the offense is the
issue. But the defense, we were ranked right before for the Christmas Break
like twenty one or twenty two in defensive efficiency. That is god awful for
a team to try to win a championship. So do I see the Bucks
in the twenty twenty four title right now? Picture absolutely not. Because the
Bucks can barely beat the Pistons. They certainly can barely beat the Boston Celtics,
and the Eastern Conference has changed dramatically. It's a changing of the guard.
I want my Bucks to win. I am a hardcore Bucks fan.
I will get on this podcast and say, yes, I will pick the
Bucks to win it all. Double injury Jesus Man. Yeah, you know
what I'm saying, And so I will say that. But the Milwaukee Bucks,
it starts with the coaching. It starts with the coaching. So before
we wrap up, Mal, we have a guest here, Chris, Me
and Keichy just gonna throw out some random basketball questions. One answer, that's
all you gotta do. We'll throw out some questions, you just give us
an answer. All time favorite NBA player, all time favorite NBA player.
I'm gonna have to take it to New York, Alan Houston, either,
Alan Houston, and he a lot of people like who Pistons, you know,
the Pistons. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I'm just I'm just
I used to be a shooter, and I just love just the way he
he just you know, he can shoot. Most overrated player in the NBA
right now, right right now, most overrated player who I don't know.
I will probably have to say Haliburton. You know what, Dang, that's
a great question. I might have to go with Halliburton. Okay, current
MVP, current m VP right now, Yes, let's give it. I
don't want to say, let's give it to Luca. Wow. Give it
to Luca Wow. He's got them kind of there. Wow. You know,
I don't know. NBA Finals prediction, NBA Finals addiction today today,
right now, I'm gonna have to go West Denver Nuggets. I'm gonna have
to say they're gonna get back in and the Celtics. Celtics and the Nuggets
we got, but I'm hoping that the Bucks can get it together and be
there who you got winning it winning it all, winning it all. I'm
gonna say Denver again. Okay, give us your all time starting five shooting
guard, shooting guard, all time shooting guard. You gotta go with Michael
Jordan's point guard, point guard, staphy small forward, small forward. Oh,
I might have to take it. No, I can't go with him.
Uh. Small forward was Kevin Durant, the small forward? Was he
power? He could play both? He played both. Not Kevin Durant,
Kevin Gardinet, Kevin gard power. All right, I go with Durant as
small forward, okay, power, power forward. I might have to go.
Dang, y'all getting me. Let's go with a Kevin Garnett Okay center
shack okay, top three of all time, top three, top three of
all time. Kareem Abdude Jabbar is number one, number one, okay,
Michael Jordan's Okay, Kobe Bryant okay four and five, four and five,
yeh shaquille O'Neil. Five. This is great. Oh that's very interesting.
Oscar Robertson six. What is going on? This is six? Wait?
Six, six of all time? You're honest? Seven? You know what
he's doing how far down Lebron is? Is Lebron in your top ten?
He's in my top ten, okay, but he's not in his top seven.
And on that note, this has been an episode of you I like
to think I'm not good? James Harden or Dwayne Wade. James Harden and
Dwayne Waite. Come on, d Wade Wade Way. He took Dwayne.
He took James Harden over Dwayne Wade. Not our big brother Zeke. So
listen man. Well, Chris, thanks for being with us today. Man,
it was a blast having you with us. Man. This has been
another episode of the ninety four feet podcast. I have to take my brother
Keith. It was another good one. Appreciate our guests here today. Man,
I am my main man. Chris in the building killing itlas. Appreciate
y'all. Thank y'all so much. I had a blast. I had so
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