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What's good? Everybody was good after
twenty twenty four? What's good? Bro?

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What's good? Good people? Yo? It's the ninety four feet Podcast.

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I'm here with my brother Keith.
What's good? Yo? And we

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signed to a one day contract.
You know what I'm saying, a one

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day contract on the ninety four feet
podcast. Man, this is my guy

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Chris. What off everybody? I'm
happy to be here. Thank y'all for

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signing me to that one day contract. I'm I'm coming off the bench like

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Lou Williams. I'll be Lou will
for a day. What's up? Retire?

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But hey, Lou Williams was highly
regarded as one of the best six

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men that ever played the game.
So you know what I'm saying. You

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a step over low in my book. But uh, you know, Chris

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in the building with it, and
who knows, perhaps he might get another

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contract if things don't change. Are
out here, I'm out of this.

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I ain't say nothing no for real. Shout out to our brother Zeke,

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who is out of the out of
the building today. I hope to have

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them back next week. Happy New
Year, everybody. How was the new

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year? Man? How was the
New year? My brothers I mean we

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only was seven days in seven days
in Well, how did you bring the

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new year in? Man? How's
it? How's the treatment so far?

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New year is a new year,
you know what I mean, new goals.

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It's time to get started. A
lot of milestones this year they achieve.

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We got three hundred and what is
it? Sixty eight days? No,

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three sixty six? This year we
got three sixty six. It's a

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leap year. This is lybya That's
how I'm trying to figure out what a

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libya? Yeah, we got three
hundred and uh fifty nine days. Let's

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it, man, three hundred and
fifty nine days to go. Let's do

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it? Good people? Yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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ninety four Free Nation. Thanks for
sticking with us on our road to one

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hundred, y'all. Can you believe
it? We've been doing this now going

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on. This is our fourth year
doing this. We'll celebrate episode one hundred

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and several weeks and we're gonna do
some stuff a little later in the year.

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Uh, nothing big, just yet. But keep a watch, keep

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it, watch, keep a watch. Let's talk to basketball. But whoever

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thought, man, I know I'll
be doing this four years? I mean,

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how many times have each of us
quit, I mean every times,

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it'll be quit. How many times
have we called an audible? How many

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times that we said, you know
what, you take the lead, you

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beat a point guard. Listen,
man, let the record show. I

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don't mind playing shooting guard. I
don't need to be charge. I'm just

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saying I like being the superstar.
Well, it's a superstar on the team.

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Well, as long as you're the
number two superstar like Lebron is to

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m right, as long as you're
that superstar. Yeah, in your books,

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let's get into it. Listen,
y'all, it has been a crazy

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couple weeks in basketball. The NBA
injury report is ridiculous right now. But

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we're gonna go ahead and get started
with the injury report. Go ahead,

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keys, all right, let's run
down the injury report, starting with the

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Atlanta Hawks. DeAndre Hunter right knee
information. He'll be reevaluated in two weeks.

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I can't really say much about that
because you know, the Hawks is

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on a kind of a slump right
now. So I mean, I guess

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I'm Wessell Helper brother out the Celtics. Chris Chris snaps porzingis right eye irritation

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day to day. You know that's
lightweight for porzingis right there. You know

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the nets been him is out back
injury, back to being you know,

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reevaluated in two weeks. The Bulls
Alex Caruso neck injury, day to day,

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and then that ain't nothing to play
with man the Calves, Darius Garland

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jaw injury out. I wonder how
long you're gonna be out today? I

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think I think January eleventh. He's
uh, he's when he's just dealing with

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an eye injury where he had like
a bad eye injury. Nothing long ago.

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When that last year last year.
I and uh, he was out

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sometime last year. Man, let
me get some significant injuries. Evan Mobley

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knee surgery on his left knee will
be evaluate re evaluated in six to eight

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weeks. And and that's a hopeful. That's a hopeful. Like and after

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six six eight weeks is like minimum, and and and and that's that's a

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knee surgery, bro, Like that
is a knee surgery. Not not a

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risk, not even a hand or
finger. We're talking about your need.

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Think the part of your body that
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He'll be a I mean, I
guess that what do you call it?

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Trade they're gonna go through no time
soon. Then, well that's that.

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That's that young nucleus the Cavs have
with Darius Garland and Evan Mobley. Both

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of them were out, but they
still maintain it. I heard they had

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what you call it on the market. Who Garrett, I mean not Garrett.

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What's the big man? Oh Garrett? Yeah, Jared jack Jared Jackson,

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Jackson Jackson jack Okay, Jared Jackson, Jared jack I heard he was

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on the trader Larren Jackson. Jared
Jackson was on Really he was on the

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trade block. But I'm pretty sure
they're gonna take that off, the offer

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off the table. Well, because
you gotta remember man and let you get

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too off topic Cleveland. No,
you're good. No, that's what we

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do here. The first twenty minutes. We never pay attention. Usually we

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start to show argue when talking about
sneakers or something. But it's a new

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year. We're trying to do some
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Cleveland Cavaliers, man, they are
fully aware that my man's PG what's his

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name, our point guard, Donovan
Mitchell. They are very much aware that

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he is gone after this season,
no doubt. They are very much aware

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of that. So they have to
do whatever they can to either build around

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our big or or find some assets
to help build for the future, because

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once Donovan Mitchell leaves, Cleveland will
experience those lebron those post lebron ars.

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I'm telling you they are better off
getting their trade for him. That's before

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it's too late and he leaves nothing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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We also got the MAVs with Luca
questionable whether Acho injury is listen as

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day to day. The MAVs are
without six other players do the injuries.

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That's so think about that. That's
half their roster. That's half their roster.

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Yeah, fourteen fifteen. I think
it's twelve to fourteen. I don't

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know how many of those are active. But if you take seven players away

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from the MAVs, man might the
forfeit that game. They might be on

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the brinks of a tank in this
season with that type of stuff going on.

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The Warriors are without Chris Paul per
usual, Jonathan Kamingo, and Gary

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Payton. A third per usual Chris
Paul. It just got announced right before

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we came in. He's gonna be
out about six to eight weeks himself.

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Well, what he just had a
surgery. He just had a major surgery

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on it was either his hand,
his wrists or his arm. And he

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is going to be out a significant
amount of time. And he has a

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fact fracture in his left hand,
so he has surgery. So he is

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going to be out for I believe
they said, you know, six eight

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weeks as well, so Chris paul
Man. But the Warriors, we'll talk

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about it later. We don't tank
time. The tank time for quite a

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few times, to be honest.
The Rockets, Dylan Brooks Torso injury.

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How do you get that in basketball? I don't want to judge, but

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how do you get a Torso injury
in basketball going up for a rebound?

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Yeah? I don't know Dyl Brooks, so I don't know. I don't

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know what he did. He probably
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on Dylan. Shout out to Dylan
Brooks. No shoutouts here where they didn't

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need them last night. The clearly
the Lakers are without Anthony Davis, per

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usual, D'Angelo Russell, Rule Hatamur, and Gabe Vincent, who hasn't played

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all season. He's sixty. The
Memphis Grizzly is our wild John Moran is

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questionable for tonight's game, while Memphis
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so they are six down. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Zion

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Williams is day to day, Joel
Embiid is day to day, Robert Coverton

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is day to day, Tobias Harris
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day to day, Boy Boyle is
day to day, Kevin Durant is day

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to day, and DeAndre a Ten
is day today. Is there anybody playing

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in the NBA, That's what I'm
saying, is anybody want to show up?

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Does anybody want to do they get? Do they get PTO? Well,

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you know they don't get PTO?
But if they are. What I

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love about the new NBA rule is
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games, injury or not, you're
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for those end season awards. So
for all these players that are out and

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listed as day to day, if
it's a real injury, be injury right,

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sit down, get healthy, get
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I'm just not playing because I don't
want to play, yeah, come on,

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man, this list, and I'm
gonna tell you, when I was

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compiling this injury report, shout out
to Z who normally does this. It's

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a pain in the butt because literally
every team had five to six players By

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the time I got down to the
Memphis Grizzlies, I said, you know

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what, other notable names because we
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injury report. The NBA as much
money as they make, and I know

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we don't like to use the word
bums. He got a lot of bombs,

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bro, because I look at the
names, like who, you know,

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what's your favorite line? Who?
Andre? Who? Like Bruh.

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I didn't even know boy or Boyer
even get minutes Boyle. In fact,

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Shaq has been making an argument that
he's just as good as Victor waight Old.

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I think I saw that argument.
I saw that, and I said

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that they're just saying he's in the
wrong situation. He's in the wrong situation

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and he doesn't have the hype.
Yep, he doesn't have the high I

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don't know we're talking about minute bows, the late minute bows. Yes,

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so man, well let's die intil
I watched the highlights of him and their

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game is very similar. And people
keep saying, I've never seen a seven

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foot of dude. What when Namaa
is doing I watched some of Boyle Boyer

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things after I've seen Shaq's interview,
and he's doing the exact same things.

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Yeah, he was actually a little
bit more athletic if you asked me.

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When it came down to his abilities. He just was on some rough teams

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and and wrong and the wrong plays, wrong time, That's how I put

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it. Yeah, that really does
it. When you're in a bad situation

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or not, I don't even know
if I want to say bad situation.

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When you're in a situation that does
not help you grow, you're not gonna

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shine. People are not gonna really
see how you are and see what you

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can do. So once you hit
that that area, you get on that

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team that you know may run,
you know you may be a runner that

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running team, and you can really
show what you have, that's when people

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start seeing. So yeah, I
agree with that ball ball. I think

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he is uh. I think he's
pretty nice. Yeah. Yeah, listen

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got the hype. Though he got
the hype, but he also got the

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tie. He got the talent.
Man look like a baby Okay, listen,

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no, no, no, let's
call it what it is. He

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made. He had several highlights on
Yanni's all right, made him look like

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a baby, posted him and crossed
him twice. You gotta give him credit.

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It happened. It happened, We
watched it, We've seen it.

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Yan's even sung the man's praises.
But let's save that for Bucks Talk around

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time. I can't wait for Bucks
Talk shoot around. Draymon Green has returned

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from suspension. Oh boy, do
we think Draymond has served enough time?

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Or is the NBA playing around early
with his return? Now, for everyone

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that doesn't know, Draymond has had
terrible behavior. He's done a lot of

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crazy stuff. But I think what
finally got him suspended with him choking out

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the choke coup didn't get him suspended, Yes, oh yeah, the issues

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that he had with that uh,
with with that player. So he served

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twelve games all in all, supposedly
went to therapy, He got some counseling.

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Uh. What is next for Draymond
Green? And does the time fit

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the crime? Trade? Trade?
Trade plus trade equals trade, give him

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a trade? Got a trade?
You know what I thinking about this?

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And I have to agree. Excuse
me, let me clear my throat.

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I have to agree. I think
they brought him back early so that he

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could play a little bit. Teams
can see him, they already know what

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he brings, and then the Warriors
can package a deal, they can get

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him up out of here. I
think it's done for him. I think

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he's done with the Warriors. I
think they're trying to get rid of him.

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They're trying to get what they can
and you know, let him play

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a little bit, get back in
the flow, and then ship them up

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out of here at the trade deadline, before the trade that line whatever.

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I agree, you know, I
disagree because the Golden State Warriors have shown

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that they are very loyal to Draymond
Green. They are very loyal Steph Curry,

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Klay Thompson, Steve Kurr, very
loyal to Draymond Green. I think,

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however, if you look at a
timeline of Draymond's action starting with Jordan

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Poole, right, and it keeps
going, you dating back to Lebron when

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he kicked him in the mid section. But now he's a Bron mid section

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lover. But what ever happens there, happens Draymond Green is is the dog

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that you want on your team,
while his actions sometimes are over the top.

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If the Warriors trade Draymond, they
don't have a dog, right.

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The Warriors are almost soft without Draymond
Green. So I don't know that the

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Golden State Warriors plan on trade and
Draymond. But what I will say,

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a twelve game suspension for assault right
for assault of multiple players, and John

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Morant got twenty five for carrying a
gun in which he probably had the right

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to do. Don't get me wrong, I still think it was a dumb

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thing to do. His punishment certainly
fit the crime. But to bring a

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person back twelve games and say you're
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now, we know that you're a
change man. It takes life cycles of

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therapy sometimes for people to change,
right. It takes life cycles for you

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to understand other than him missing a
paycheck, We're gonna really you have to

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watch a couple of these games to
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that's where I go to the fact
of what Chris said, like they're going

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to trade him. They only brought
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the books. And get that money
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be automatic done for the season because
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I mean, Draymond got a history. Boy, that brother got a history

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of putting his hands on people like
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are done with him. I think
the Warriors dynasty is done with I think

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the Warriors have realized it is time
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new. Draymond and Wiggins are on
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problem is he hasn't psychologically got over
whatever that that event that happened off the

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court person but personally whatever happened in
that situation, he ain't been the same

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since. So I got a feeling
that Wiggins is on his way out and

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Draymond is on his way out,
and Clay won't return next year, and

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they're gonna build some more players in
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that they got. So if dray
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we're not just talking to Warriors NBA. I'm of the opinion that the NBA,

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although they only gave him a pat
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dray Min's behavior is on band level. Band like, if this behavior continues

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and he doesn't approve, I can
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But that's that's why the Warriors are
the only team that could take that gamble

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to let him play a few games
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him back so that they can trade
him. Because other than that, what

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do you need him? Because I
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of a difference where they're gonna win
that many more games. The Warriors suck

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today, they suck tomorrow, and
they're gonna suck next week. The Warriors

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are that's how they do Lebron.
So that's so get off my second favorite

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team. You don't have to be
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there. But I'm just saying now, Steph is filling the raft of playing

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with a bunch of scrubs and or
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players, and you don't have that
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out. Steph look exhausted at the
end of games. It is time,

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you know, to bring in some
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older too, so it's time for
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they got. I can't think of
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he's pretty decent too. So So
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reports coming out since we're talking Warriors
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Steve Kerr with the minutes. They're
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So, you know, we talked
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do they say, Okay, Steve, it worked while it worked, but

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now it's time for you to move
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in Golden State or is it talent? It's Steve curR the problem. I

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mean, have you all heard the
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upset, you know, not as
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problems, which we'll get to.
Their agents are called on the front office,

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like what the heck is Darvin Ham
doing with which we'll get into in

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a little bit. But is Steve
Kerr? Is it time for him in

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the Golden State Warriors to go their
separate ways? Go ahead, Chris,

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I think so. I think,
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don't want to go too far back. But Dre, you just mentioned every

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team needs a dog. Yeah,
to all my pitt fans, I love

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Yeah, I love pits. But
when it starts to get pit level and

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you know that you can't control the
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in this situation, you know you
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to get rid of Draymond. I
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he gets traded or if he comes
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a year, I think, and
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after that they'll reevaluate some things,
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Now moving over to Steve Kerr,
I think Steve Kerr, I don't

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know does he really coach? I
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like, he doesn't coach, He
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great things to say after the games. I think it's time for for yeah,

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something new fresh blood. He's doing
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Phil Jackson where he can sit there
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he doesn't have that ability now that
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for the last six seven years.
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Clay young, Dre young, Steph. You know what I'm saying, y,

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you know what I'm saying young KD
because KD was at what four years

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ago? Four years ago is a
big difference in a career. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah. Well, you
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Steve Kerr maan, if you even
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a person. Right where we grew
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a man down low. I think
Steve Kerr has spent too much time on

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the sidelines being the popular coach or
the coach would swag, right, because

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you saw Andre Igudala coaching on the
sidelines, right, You saw Steph in

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his player's ear. So as long
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is untouchable. I personally believe that. I don't know that. I don't

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want to say that Steve Kerr has
lost the locker room because if Steve Kerr

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was a black coach, let's let's
take it there, you know, and

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and and we're not a racist podcast, we love everybody. But if if

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if Steve Kerr, Let'm not even
say a black coach, if Steve Kerr

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was any other coach, and that
Jordan Poole footage would have leaked. What

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if the he said he lost the
locker room. We're firing the coach because

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the coach let that happen. Steve
Kerk no, no controlling that none,

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no ownership. If that was agent
Griffin, what will happen. Oh,

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he'd been out of there quickly he
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That was Agen Griffin. How fast
well Egend Griffin had been out of that

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organization. That's what I'm saying.
And so Steve Kurk does not take ownership

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of some of the actions of his
players. And because we would have been

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all over Griff he lost the locker
room, Griffin gotta go like Griff fought

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Terry Stotts. So they say,
luckily there's no footage out there. Luckily

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there's no footage. But the rumor
Mills said him and Terry Stott got into

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it because Terry Stott called over the
players. Uh, the coach called for

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a huddle, but Terry Stott stayed
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players, and Griffin felt disrespected that
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if had that been physical, Griffin
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that to say I think in Golden
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the reason that Golden State has continually
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has a protector known to Steve Kirk. Steve Kerr protects Draymond, He protects

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his players, and I believe in
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Steve Kurr is untouchable. I'm just
I hear you. I hear you,

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Dre. I'm just wondering. So
so you're saying, as long as Draymond

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is there is around, Steve Kerr
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of wondering because I don't I don't
know Steve nash got his walking papers with

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the with Brooklyn. He should have
never had it though he should have never

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had a but awesome Steve kurt That. I mean, Steve nashan have the

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resume that that Kerr got behind him
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You know what I'm saying. Those
those four championships back you up a long

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way as compared to Steve Nash coming
in and he got nothing. But I

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can bring up a name, Mark
Jackson. That's all I'm gonna say.

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So, Mark Jackson. Pissed off
the wrong people, man, Mark Mark

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Jackson, Mark Jackson. If he
goes back and he repents to doctor Jerry

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West and he admits that he was
wrong for putting him out of practice and

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and taking that hard tone with doctor
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See and in the landscape of Hollywood, just like Milwaukee, a little bit,

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just like kind of no right,
just like kind of nonprofit tone.

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We got insurance here, man,
we got a death so close to my

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elbow it might be broken. Was
abotaged What's Up Injury podcast? And would

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have just would have torn rotator in
his elbow. It's just going. But

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you know, Mark Jackson, you
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we give him too much credit for
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him way too much credit. I
ain't bring Mark Jackson, he'd give him

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way too much credit. Yes,
he helped Golden State, but so did

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Phil Collins help the Bulls. But
Phil, I'm sorry a duck Collins.

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Phil Collins, one of the greatest
singers of all time, Souse, I

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confuse that Phil Jackson is the one
that delivered the rings. Right. Rudy

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tom Janovich had the Lakers, Okay, Byron Scott had the Lakers and got

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the death stare from Kobe and was
gone the next day. Phil Jackson brought

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the rings. So coaching coaching matters. Jordan didn't deliver those rings until Phil

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Jackson showed him how to master the
triangle offense. Coaching matters, right.

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Steve Kirk Klay Thompson didn't learn how
to play off the ball into Steve Kirk

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taught them that. So let's not
act like Steve Kirk didn't bring the level

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of coaching to the Golden State Warriors
to help them win those four titles.

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Now they were fouled for going out
and getting kd after they okay, file

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for going there, and then they
have a winning record before the Steve Kirk

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came in there, they had a
playoff record. They had forty four and

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in thirty eight and forty six and
something I'm paraphrasing, But they weren't considered

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dangerous until Steve kirricane and they continue
to build their team to the draft that's

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real. So you feel I said
what I said, said what I said?

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Moving on? Whoop, brace yourself, America, don't even do it.

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Don't be that guy today. The
Los Angeles Lakers have lost ten games

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and only won four since the end
season tournament. Are the Los Angeles Lakers

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defenders or pretenders? Reports also indicate
that Darvinham is at odds with his players,

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and agents are calling for road agents
are calling the office. What the

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heck is he doing? My clients
are not happy. This is a two

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part hold up a second. This
is a two part Lakers question. What

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do we make up the Los Angeles
Lakers? Because once they hung that banner,

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it's like the Lakers quit and I'm
gonna go ahead, no, let

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our guess. All I want to
say about the Lakers is yeah, that

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the end season tournament championship. Okay, cool? Yeah, Ever since then,

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I don't know what happened. They
just I don't know, the bottom

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dropped out and it just seems like
that was their championship. Lebron is still

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going hard doing this thing, but
I don't know. They're missing a D

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again. Gets hurt a lot.
I know that was their chance. Yeah,

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hotchi Morow is hurt, like a
lot of their players are hurt.

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Borre, he's hurt. I don't
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don't see much out of the Lakers. They don't scare anyone. They don't

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have a dog. I don't think. I just I don't know a d

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and Lebron together. I don't know
how much longer we can talk about that.

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You know, Darvin Ham, if
Darvin Ham would have waited one year,

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he could have been the Bucks coach
one or two years, he could

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have been the Bucks next coach.
I saw what was happening. He left,

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did this thing over there. He's
doing this thing with the Lakers.

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But I don't know he's if he
lost the locker room in LA. That's

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just tough for me to imagine.
I mean, I know it's out there,

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but he just seems to me like
he's a hard nose. He just

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wants the best for us players.
He gets at you if you're not,

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you know, giving it your all. If they don't like that, then

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okay, let's package your deal for
some of these you know, some of

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these cats and get them up out
of here. I don't know. That's

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how I feel. The Lakers don't
have a lot of assets. Though the

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Lakers don't have a lot of assets, the Los Angeles Lakers have traded their

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whole future. They've traded the whole
future. They have nothing. There is

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nothing attractive to the Lakers, not
even Anthony Davis, not even Lebron James.

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Because the only thing that makes Lebron
attractive is the fact that you might

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get Ronnie James. So Lebron can
still contribute to a team. Yes,

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but there are not people lining up
to trade for Anthony Davis because he's too

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inconsistent. Fact, you've said that, you you blame Anthony Davis more,

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do you blame Lebron? Okay,
first off, since you want to go

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there, let's get on these Lakers. First off, they are pretenders.

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I'm gonna go there, Okay,
the Lakers on record, Keyzy said,

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what the Lakers are pretenders. Lebron
and ad have been pretty consistent this year.

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They have not missed a lot of
games this year. So you cannot

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blame them this year and I'm not
going to blame them this year. Go

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ahead, go ahead. They got
up, they got a lot of players.

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A d and Lebron have to have
shooters right in order to be successful.

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They got a lot of players who
are inconsistent shooters. That is where

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their woes come in. So now
you got he played twenty eight minutes,

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but he only scored two points.
I'm sitting on the bench and I can't

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get those minutes, some of the
minutes to try to bring us a couple

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more buckets here and there. So
then that's where Darvin ham is having his

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issues with his rotations because he's given
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So where was the point where this
happened? Because they won that end season

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title and then they've been doing it
all season. They just got lucky for

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a few games nine and oh they
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I just said they got But that's
what the that's Lebron's wheel haul.

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Tournaments, that it's his wheelhaul.
That's where he's playoffs, that's where he's

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00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:07.680
he is the most dominant when it
comes down to big games, he's dominant.

405
00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:12.240
But if he don't have a supporting
cast, and it just so happens

406
00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:19.960
some cam Reddish had a good tournament, Ruey had a decent tournament. One

407
00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:23.359
game, So you each player had
a decent game in the tournament, so

408
00:30:23.400 --> 00:30:29.240
that's what helped him with Lebron's ad
played really well too, though I can't

409
00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:33.319
lie, but he hasn't been injured
as much as he normally is the Lakers

410
00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:44.160
and I watched the guil Arena and
he said it perfect. Lebron need to

411
00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:48.400
get a garbage bag, take it
in the locker room and put all those

412
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:55.920
trash players in that bag and take
them out so Lebron gets a pass,

413
00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:59.759
is what you're saying. Lebron hasn't
change. He hasn't changed in twenty one

414
00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:04.680
year years, as you've noticed.
If you don't put the right stuff around

415
00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:10.400
him, they're not going to succeed. It's just it's just playing and simple.

416
00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:14.319
If he did make a comment to
say his son could play for the

417
00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:17.799
Lakers now, they probably could right
now, he probably could with the way

418
00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:22.039
they play. You got what's the
dude name? No, the other dude

419
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:30.000
with the dark can do with the
dreadge toyon Prince taking eleven threes a game?

420
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:37.519
How in in the h E double
hockey stick is Torrian Prince taking eleven

421
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:44.599
threes? Do you see why some
players might be getting upset if Torrian Prince

422
00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:48.079
is taking eleven threes, but he's
averaging like four points a game. What's

423
00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:52.599
Austin Reeves doing? Like, wasn't
he a man? He was Austin He's

424
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:59.119
doing this thing. He's he's it's
Darvin Ham's fault because he put him on

425
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:04.720
the bench, tried to make him
like their their something to come off the

426
00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:07.960
bench. You're six man. Yeah, you paid him all that money to

427
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:09.759
come off the bench. No,
you paid him to be in that starting

428
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:14.359
lineup with Lebron and a d.
They fit together. Those three work together.

429
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:16.319
You just got to figure out those
other two that go along with them.

430
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:22.559
Yeah, and and D'Angelo Russell was
not consistent. Yeah, oh well

431
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:29.039
he's he's the most he's the most
untradable player in the NBA right now,

432
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:34.119
in my opinion, with star status, right he's the most untradeable player in

433
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:40.640
the NBA besides maybe Dremond and James
Harden. But the Los Angeles Lakers for

434
00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:44.000
me, but if you can find
a trade for James, you can find

435
00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:46.279
a trade for Russell. I'm gonna
be honest with you. To me,

436
00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:52.599
the Lakers were only after winning the
end season tournament. They celebrated like it

437
00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:59.200
was a title they brought in Champagne. They raised a banner. I get

438
00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:02.240
it. I was okay with it
until they went ten lost ten games after

439
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:07.559
that to some bums, to some
scrubs. The Los Angeles Lakers not only

440
00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:13.480
are they pretenders, they are barely
a playing team. There is no one

441
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:21.079
right now of the top six in
the Western Conference that I have the Lakers

442
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:25.319
beating in a seven game series.
They can't beat Minnesota in the seven games

443
00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:30.799
series. Minnesota is too quick.
You're too fast now with those too big

444
00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:37.839
bigs Minnesota too. I said what
I said, Okay, the Oklahoma City

445
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:45.559
Thunder with them, dog the Lakers. The Nuggets have already done it.

446
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:51.319
It's a repeat of last year.
The Clippers hit her miss, hit her

447
00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:54.640
miss. That might be the best
matchup for the Lakers. The Kings have

448
00:33:54.759 --> 00:34:00.279
already shown that they can own the
Lakers in Dallas might be hit or missed.

449
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:05.359
Right now, the Lakers have fallen
out of play in tournament. We're

450
00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:08.639
getting ready to hit the half season
mark, and the Lakers have to compete

451
00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:13.599
to try to even get in play
in now. Because if you're losing games

452
00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:16.960
consistently to teams, you should beat
what is that gonna happen when you start

453
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:22.880
playing contending teams? The Bucks,
the Nuggets, right, the Suns,

454
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:27.719
the Clippers. So right now,
the Los Angeles Lakers, to me,

455
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:36.800
they let that team just do whatever
they wanted to do. They celebrated way

456
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:42.079
too early, and now they're feeling
the faults of this. Now they're feeling

457
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:45.480
the faults of this. And so
the Los Angeles Lakers, not only are

458
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:49.199
they pretenders, they better step up
so they can become a playoff team.

459
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:52.280
But let's get this straight though,
before you before you count them all the

460
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:53.840
way out, they caught them all
the way I'm just saying, before you

461
00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:59.360
count them all the way out.
They didn't lose to some scrub. They

462
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:05.280
to a Memphis Grizzlies with a hot
John Morant. But go ahead. They

463
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:07.920
lost. It's fox, But since
John came back, they ain't been on

464
00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:12.599
that losing street. He's one player, but go ahead, John Renn is

465
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:16.360
a lot dude. Uh. They
lost to the Heat. They're not horrible.

466
00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:22.559
Jimmy Butler didn't play. Next,
they lost to the Pelicans. No,

467
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:27.400
Repelicans are not bombs. Okay,
what are they standings? Right now?

468
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:30.320
You're six? Wis has been in
and out. But okay, I

469
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:34.320
don't mind that one. They lost
to the t Wolves. Okay, but

470
00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:37.039
you said they can beat them.
They only lost by two. I lost

471
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:40.280
as the loss. A loss is
a loss, Okay, they just they

472
00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:44.760
beat the Hornets before that team they're
supposed to beat. Yeah, they lost

473
00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:47.000
to the Celtics the game before that, the team they're supposed to lose.

474
00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:55.480
They beat the Thunder Okay. They
lost to the t Wolves okay twice not

475
00:35:57.000 --> 00:36:01.280
yeah, Okay, So here's to
say they ain't lost to some real life

476
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:07.239
people they shouldn't be losing to,
and they're not getting blown out. They

477
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:12.760
just ain't closing out games, can't
hit shots. So that's what it boils

478
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:16.280
down to. It's time that trade
deadline is too close. It's time for

479
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:21.719
people to start making moves. But
what does Chris No, I was just

480
00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:24.079
gonna say, Drake, didn't you
say that they have no trade assets?

481
00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:28.559
None at all? None? So
what do they do like if they don't

482
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:31.519
start with you know, I can't
see I don't know if I can see

483
00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:36.119
Lebron. I mean, it's happened
before, but not making the playoffs,

484
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:40.079
just looking this bad, the whole
team just being down and out that bad

485
00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:44.400
last year. Remember didn't they make
the playoffs? Though? They because they

486
00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:46.199
made a late season run after they
had the trade before the trade deadline.

487
00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:52.159
See then they okay, but with
no trade assets, that might not happen

488
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:54.880
this year. It's not going you
know, it's not going to the Lakers

489
00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:58.800
are a first round drive pick into
what what was it, He's like twenty

490
00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:02.079
twenty nine or something like that because
they traded for Russell Westbrook or some other

491
00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:06.239
stupid stuff. You know, the
Lakers don't have a first round drift pick

492
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:08.280
for years. I don't believe someone
have to fact check me, t if

493
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:13.000
you're watching dropping the chat when the
Lakers' next first round drive pick is.

494
00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:16.039
But let me tell you something.
Nine is that it no twenty twenty seven,

495
00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:22.639
brun that's four years away. That's
four years away. And Lebron you're

496
00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:25.679
not trading him. Let's be for
real. And Anthony Davis, you're not

497
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:31.119
trading him. D'Angelo Russell is not
a trade asset. He's tradable though,

498
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:36.800
he's not an asset. Though.
No one's calling the Lakers about D'Angelo Russell.

499
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:40.760
Okay, the Lakers are calling teams
about D'Angelo Russell. Hey, do

500
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:45.800
you want Russell? Do you want
Russell? Russell makes eighteen million dollars and

501
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:49.000
puts up What is it with people
with the last name Russell and putting up

502
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:52.039
bricks? Because that is what D'Angelo
Russell does. He puts up bricks.

503
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:54.800
He was sad for the start of
the season. I don't know what happened.

504
00:37:54.880 --> 00:38:00.000
Yeah, he has always been inconsistent. Even when playing with Minnesota,

505
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:04.840
he has always put up bricks.
But that's why they brought in gave Vincent

506
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:07.519
and he hasn't even played. That's
why the Lakers got rid of him the

507
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:10.320
first time to attract Lebron because you
were putting up bricks. And he came

508
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:14.719
back to the Lakers and now he's
putting up more bricks. If you look

509
00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:19.039
at his shooting percentage, it is
got awful. The Los Angeles Lakers have

510
00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:27.440
no trade assets. They do who
reeves he's valuable, very valuable. Austin

511
00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:30.599
reeves he's valuable. And I was
gonna say, but why would you trade

512
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:36.000
him because he's like he could be
like the future. I mean, I

513
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:38.719
know, he's a nice he's a
nice roll starter. He's a nice roll

514
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:44.679
starter. He's not a franchise.
No, he's not tagged, not at

515
00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:46.719
all. What you think they can
get for him, I mean you can

516
00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:53.119
get you can get some decent for
for Reeves. Puts In and Russell in

517
00:38:53.199 --> 00:39:00.519
a deal. You can get a
nice deal, okay. Or you put

518
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:07.800
Max Christie, Christy and Russell in
a deal because he's young and he got

519
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:13.039
a lot of potential. So the
Lakers have a couple of trade options.

520
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:15.880
It's just a point of which direction
do you want to go? As la

521
00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:21.559
Max Christie. No relation reminds me
of Doug Christie for some reason. I

522
00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:27.280
don't know. I'm just that's just
off the record. I don't know why

523
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:30.119
I said no. I think I
looked it up and it said it's no

524
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:34.960
relation. But yeah, he kind
of reminds me of that bigger guard six

525
00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:37.760
' five and just you know,
just does a few things here and that.

526
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:40.719
So let me ask you this,
what do we make of players being

527
00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:47.519
at odds with Darvin Ham and agents
calling the front office allegedly to complain about

528
00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:53.280
Darvin Ham. Is that overstepping the
line? Is that going too far?

529
00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:59.159
Or is Darvin Ham screwing up the
Lakers franchise that much? Because I make

530
00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:04.519
no mistakes about it. Darvin Ham
is no Steve Kerr. Darvin Ham is

531
00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:09.320
no Greg Popovich. And one call
from Lebron? What does the David Grooper

532
00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:14.280
say? One call? That's all? One call from Lebron. The Darvin

533
00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:19.760
Ham experience is over. And don't
let these be a clutch sports players.

534
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:22.480
I don't know if they I don't
know who the agent are, but don't

535
00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:25.199
let these be Team Lebron players calling
the front office. What do we make

536
00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:31.119
of players now basically tattle telling and
going above the coach's head going to the

537
00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:35.000
front office. What do you make
of that? That's been going on for

538
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:39.679
a while. This ain't that first
rodeo? Is Darvin wrong? Here?

539
00:40:39.719 --> 00:40:43.280
Do the Lakers need to make a
coaching change? Is he part of the

540
00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:45.199
problem? Is he part of the
problem when the Lakers are four and ten

541
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:50.000
or four and fourteen over the last
couple of weeks? Is he part of

542
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.360
the problem? Has he lost the
locker room? Has he lost the ability

543
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:55.760
to leave the Lakers? All of
these role players that can't shoot? Is

544
00:40:55.760 --> 00:41:01.519
the problem? Every time I think
about it? And I've seen that Torrian

545
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:07.159
Punch took eleven threes in a game
I couldn't believe it. That's tough.

546
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:09.880
Yeah, I can get he's a
three and D guy, but eleven,

547
00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:15.599
that's tough to come back for it. And you only scored two points that

548
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:20.239
game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would have to say

549
00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:23.199
that how far are we from that
end season in season tournament? How far

550
00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:29.760
are we from that? Uh?
In season tournament ended around December ninth and

551
00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:31.719
eleventh, so we're about a month
about a month. It was all good

552
00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:35.280
a week ago, you know what
I'm saying. It was all good when

553
00:41:35.320 --> 00:41:37.920
they were winning and doing that.
I think some the injury bug kind of

554
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:43.519
got to them a little bit.
Darkenham got them into the playoffs last year,

555
00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:47.719
they won the nd season tournament this
year, and now, you know

556
00:41:47.800 --> 00:41:52.159
a little bit a few weeks down
the line, everyone's now hurt, you

557
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:55.320
know, calling their their their agents
to call. You know, I'm not

558
00:41:55.360 --> 00:42:00.880
getting my playing time. Whatever injuries
play apart. But I don't think you

559
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:02.760
can turn your back on Darvin Ham
yet. I think you gotta give him

560
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:05.920
some more time, at least at
the end of the season. Then we'll

561
00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:08.440
see what happens the rest of the
way from this point, and then after

562
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:13.320
that we can decide what they need
to do. They already made their bed,

563
00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:15.000
like you said earlier, Dre,
they made their bed with some of

564
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:19.519
the trades that they had. You
know, they have nothing to give anymore.

565
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:23.480
The all these people that they brought
in, they're there. Nine shooters,

566
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:28.719
that's them. That was they call. So I think you stick with

567
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:30.599
Darvin Ham. I think he's a
good coach from what I've seen when he

568
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:34.960
was here with the Bugs assistant coach
and stuff like that. But you know,

569
00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:37.400
maybe it is him, but I
think you need to give him some

570
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:42.000
more time. Yeah, I don't. I don't like the players. And

571
00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:46.519
I've always said this on this podcast
for the past four years. Players get

572
00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:50.840
an escape, coaches get a pat
on their hand and they're out the door.

573
00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:54.960
Right. They're always held to a
higher standard, And I get it.

574
00:42:55.800 --> 00:43:00.159
Darvin Ham. For me, you
can't overlook it. He took a

575
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:06.280
play in tournament Lakers to the conference
finals. They got sweat, right.

576
00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:10.840
He took a hobbled Lakers to the
n season tournament to win the championship.

577
00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:15.199
It's a championship, whether we like
it or not, it's a championship,

578
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:20.119
right, he took them. Now, if you don't like your minutes,

579
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:25.440
then asked to go somewhere else.
There's a reason why Darvin Ham is trying

580
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:31.480
things out. Well, what I
will say, Darvin four and fourteen,

581
00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:40.719
since the play into tournament is not
okay, and you better fix it fast.

582
00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:47.639
You better fix it two weeks because
Lebron James has a year or two

583
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:54.280
maybe left to play. And if
he goes down on this tanking or sinking

584
00:43:54.400 --> 00:44:00.400
lakership, Darvin's going to go down
because Lebron James, unless he he's injured.

585
00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:05.519
Lebron doesn't have losing seasons. He
doesn't have losing seasons. He has

586
00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:10.400
championship seasons. He has finals appearances, he has conference finals appearances. And

587
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:15.199
you're losing games and players are starting
to complain about minutes that they can't talk

588
00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:20.639
to you. That is the first
sign of a lost locker room when your

589
00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:23.960
agents are calling. But you know
why that is. I don't Darvin Ham.

590
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:28.079
Don't play no games, y'all.
No. He he is like the

591
00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:32.960
Tasmanian devil. He will tear stuff
off the walls. I'm just gonna say

592
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:38.039
it like that. And I can
feel that you can be intimidated by a

593
00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:45.119
coach who has a dominant personality like
Darvin Ham. You wouldn't feel comfortable going

594
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:46.679
to ask for a minute because you
don't know what it's gonna outcome. Gonna

595
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:50.679
be Yeah, because Darvin Ham ain't
gonna take no mess. Yeah. At

596
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:53.840
the same time, but at the
same time, dovern Ham got to do

597
00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:58.320
something about this rotation? Yeah,
it's bad. It's bad. It's horrible.

598
00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:01.360
It's bad. It's almost like chick
ag League team. The Lakers are

599
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:06.360
horrible to watch, especially if Lebron
is not playing right. The Lakers are

600
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:09.519
horrible to watch. And you know, Lakers have old money, right,

601
00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:14.159
they have old fans. The old
Laker money ain't gonna stand for that.

602
00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:19.760
Jenny Buss has already made a statement
that they stand behind Darvin Ham, that

603
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:23.000
she's standing behind him. But we've
also heard Mike Dundley v say Jordan Pool's

604
00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:25.039
a part of this team and he
was out the door of what two days

605
00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:30.480
later. So it's good for now, but Darvin better changing He better change

606
00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:35.079
it quickly. Trade rumors are going
crazy right now. One of the biggest

607
00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:39.360
things on the market is Pascal Sayakam. The two teams that are most interested

608
00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:45.960
are the Detroit Pistons and the Indiana
Pacers. What is his trade value?

609
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:49.159
In which team needs him most?
Who would you like to see him traded

610
00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:52.360
to? First of all, I
admit I didn't know his value was that

611
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:57.800
high. I did I know Sayakam
people were breaking the bank for Pascal Sayaka.

612
00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:01.519
What is his trade value? You
know why he's so high. He's

613
00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:08.440
sixteen, he can handle the ball, He's an elite defender, and if

614
00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:12.880
you really need him to, he
can score. What's his season stats?

615
00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:15.559
Man? Put pull up his season
staff, Chris? What you think man

616
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:20.119
about Sayakam and his value? And
in which team? You know what?

617
00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:25.079
I like Saakam. I think that
the Golden State Warriors if they get him

618
00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:30.320
to go with Steph, to go
with Clay, I think you can.

619
00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:34.840
I mean, I would try to
get I'm I'm gonna stay on it.

620
00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:39.119
I would try to get Draymond up
out of here for Saokam. Draymond maybe,

621
00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:47.280
And what we say earlier, Wiggins, you know what, I don't

622
00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:51.519
know. I don't know if that
can happen, but should should we try

623
00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:53.199
that? But I would like to
see him with the Warriors. I don't

624
00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:58.119
like him to see him with Steph. Yeah, and Clay. So he

625
00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:00.719
wasn't linked to the Warriors yet,
but he could be. That's a good

626
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:05.400
that's a good analogy when I looked
it up. Right now, the Kings

627
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:08.000
were the number one team, but
they dropped out because they said Toronto wants

628
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:13.239
too much, uh for him.
So now it's it's the Pacers and the

629
00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:15.639
Pistons. So for me, no
one wants to go to the Pistons right

630
00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:19.960
now. You send that man to
Detroit, you would kill his career.

631
00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:23.519
You would kill his career if you
send him where to Detroit? Yeah,

632
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:28.440
he's done, you give me.
Yeah, he returned. Could you see

633
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:30.440
what happened? Was to call it? When he went there? Who's at

634
00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:35.559
Blake? Oh man? Oh man? Yeah, think about it was Blake

635
00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:38.920
still had a couple of years left
for him, but he wanted Detroit and

636
00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:44.159
in roady math. That's it.
So if you want to kill the man's

637
00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:46.960
career, then you send him to
Detroit. The Detroit Pistons are three and

638
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:52.639
thirty two, right, three and
thirty two already eliminated from playoff contention,

639
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:55.440
Wow, already, Like NBA never
does it that early. They're already eliminated

640
00:47:55.440 --> 00:48:01.559
from playoff. They're not, but
they're at point eighty six. Is averaging

641
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:07.199
twenty two, six and five.
Yeah, the them some decent numbers.

642
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:12.039
I like him with the Detroit I'm
sorrying with the Indiana Pacers. And I'm

643
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:14.440
gonna tell you right now, I
said at the beginning of the season,

644
00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:19.440
and I'm eating my words now,
I said, ain't nobody worried about the

645
00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:25.480
Indiana Pacers. If you add say
I come to the Pacers, the Pacers

646
00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:30.639
are a problem. Yeah, the
Pacers are already a problem. I can

647
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:35.800
admit to it. Now. Halliburton
is a problem. He's a pest,

648
00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:42.440
but he's a problem. For who
are you giving up if I'm the Pacers.

649
00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:45.840
When you look at right now that
you are having a good run,

650
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:52.079
that you are beating one of the
favorites to go to the NBA Finals,

651
00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:55.559
and you're not just beating them,
you're beating them in a in a dynamic

652
00:48:55.639 --> 00:49:00.880
fashion. You feeld now when you
give up some of those future assets?

653
00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:06.679
Right? So, if I'm the
Pacers, I would look at some draft

654
00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:12.880
picks. I would look at some
of those role players that are not like

655
00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:20.679
super valuable to your team. But
adding say I come to Indiana, I

656
00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:24.039
believe would make them a favorite in
the Eastern confege. But you got to

657
00:49:24.039 --> 00:49:28.079
give up something to get him,
because he ain't gonna just said that,

658
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:32.079
but but you gotta give up something, not not to give up a little

659
00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:37.400
something. You gotta give up something. Yeah, So who are you going

660
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:42.159
to give up? If you're Pacers, is the question? Buddy healed,

661
00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:45.079
you got it. They've been trying
to give him up for a month,

662
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:49.480
so that's okay. But but if
you're Toronto, are you gonna take Buddy?

663
00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:52.760
I would if say I come once, I absolutely I'm gonna take buddies.

664
00:49:53.159 --> 00:49:59.280
Buddies is a is A is a
shooter and Toronto needs help scoring they

665
00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:01.960
need a shooter. He should,
but he doesn't shoot a high efficiency.

666
00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:07.000
Here's the thing. Here's the thing. If you are known, if you're

667
00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:13.760
going to lose, sayakam anyway,
you have to try to get something before

668
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:17.239
you get nothing, right, you
have to try to get something. And

669
00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:24.280
so if you think about who the
Pacers trade assets are, obviously it's not

670
00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:30.199
Halliburton, right. He is their
superstar, he is the future. He

671
00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:35.079
is there Reggie Miller of the nineties. He is their guy in the order

672
00:50:35.199 --> 00:50:40.000
to keep him happy and to keep
him not considering other teams you have to

673
00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:46.280
look at upbreaking a piece in so
you can look at another name that's on

674
00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:50.719
the table, and people may not
like it. But if i'm the Pacers,

675
00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:55.480
I'm adding Miles Turner, Miles Turner
and Buddy Hill give me, say

676
00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:59.039
I come and give me a future
draft pick. Can we call it even?

677
00:50:59.159 --> 00:51:02.159
Oh? And we call it even? Because who would you rather have

678
00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:10.320
playing next to Halliburton, Miles Turner
or SAA. I'm taking SAA. I'm

679
00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:16.199
taking Miles Turner. Chris with your
commentary, I'm gonna have to keep Miles

680
00:51:16.280 --> 00:51:21.480
Turner. I'm thinking of giving up
someone like I don't know, like Obi

681
00:51:21.599 --> 00:51:28.199
Topping, and possibly I'll give up
topping it and Hide. I'll give up

682
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:32.800
Toppling and Buddy. But to give
up Turner, that's a lot, is

683
00:51:32.800 --> 00:51:37.760
not to replace. That's a lot. Turner does a lot in their victories

684
00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:43.039
and him being able to stretch the
floor as a five, it's big for

685
00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:51.519
Halibert. He makes it easy for
Halliburt because they're picking roll it's through them.

686
00:51:51.559 --> 00:51:53.920
That's a good point. Think about
it, because if you help out

687
00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:59.760
on Hallibert, either Turner's going to
slash because he can finish at the rim

688
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:02.719
or he's gonna pop and he's gonna
shoot it and he shoots at a high

689
00:52:02.760 --> 00:52:07.760
clip from the three. Or if
you drop and you and you take Turner

690
00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:12.840
and you and you get Hallibert that
space, he'll shoot it. Yeah,

691
00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:15.039
yeah, yeah, So you're not
letting go of Miles. I'm keeping Miles

692
00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:19.159
Turner. I gotta keep him.
He's the big man, he's the center,

693
00:52:19.199 --> 00:52:22.679
and you know he's gonna do everything
that Queas just said. You know

694
00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:29.199
so. But but if you think
about adding Sayakam and you get rich Okay,

695
00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:34.800
say they pulled it off and you
have Sayakam, you have Turner and

696
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:39.800
Hallibert. Now you got a problem
because Turner and Sayakam sort of play the

697
00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:45.119
same position, power forward center.
No, you put you put Siakim at

698
00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:49.159
the four, you put Turner at
the five. And you don't believe none

699
00:52:49.239 --> 00:52:52.039
of their stats are impacted by playing
on the same team, the two of

700
00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:59.079
them. Yes, No, how
keys, how what do you mean they're

701
00:52:59.119 --> 00:53:02.280
the same player? Essentially, I'm
gonna say they're the same player, the

702
00:53:02.360 --> 00:53:08.079
only different squad. No. I
think that someone is going to some scoring

703
00:53:08.199 --> 00:53:13.840
is gonna drop off for one of
them, whether it's Siakam, whether it's

704
00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:17.199
Turner or Halliburton. I mean,
you know, it's not gonna be as

705
00:53:17.239 --> 00:53:21.880
fluid anymore with those three. If
those three were there, I think it

706
00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:24.119
wouldn't be It would be kind of
like a clogged up lane. Then they

707
00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:30.159
would go from being small too.
Now you got a problem. The problem

708
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:34.360
is what people don't understand is has
never been a player who needed a play

709
00:53:34.360 --> 00:53:37.760
call for him. Seacam has never
been the player who offense was built around.

710
00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:42.039
Siakim just the type of player who
fits in where he fits in.

711
00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:45.000
He doesn't have a problem with that. That's why he has stats across the

712
00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:52.199
board. Think about it. And
he can shoot from the three. He's

713
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:55.000
not great, but he can shoot
it. He also can handle the ball

714
00:53:55.039 --> 00:54:00.000
and take some pressure off of Halliburn
at points. You know what I mean,

715
00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:06.079
when haliber goes to the bench,
So they got some young players to

716
00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:08.760
go along with that. If say, I can want to get his money

717
00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:13.079
when Halliberg goes to the bench,
or Turner goes to the bench, or

718
00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:15.920
the vice versa. When he goes
to the bench, the other players step

719
00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:21.519
up. It would make Indiana more
dangerous if you brought him in there.

720
00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:30.679
But I don't see Indiana getting him, and I I like Hallibert, but

721
00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:34.800
I think the hype is gonna be
gonna die down in a minute. I

722
00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:37.920
think the hype is gonna die down
in a minute. I like him,

723
00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:42.119
but I just don't think he as
good as everybody making him seem to be.

724
00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:45.760
So you think he's going to it's
gonna catch up with him, and

725
00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:51.079
you know he's because he's because my
only thing is he's not flashy. He's

726
00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:57.159
not lightning quick. That's that's that
set shot ain't gonna continue going down for

727
00:54:57.239 --> 00:55:00.199
him. It ain't gonna in that
set shot. He so slow. It

728
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:06.760
is though at some point they're going
to figure it out. Sometimes they take

729
00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:09.199
him a season to to figure out
a player and then they just fall off

730
00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:14.760
the map. But we shall see
if he can, if he can continue

731
00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:17.000
to do what he do. I
commend it, but I just don't see

732
00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:21.960
it. He's better than I thought. Well he's he's doing better than like

733
00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:24.039
you said, Like I said,
he doing better than I expected him to

734
00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:30.039
do. And I'm just I don't
see it being a longevity thing. I

735
00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:35.360
see it being a temporary thing.
To me, he is a thrown in

736
00:55:35.400 --> 00:55:39.079
Giannis aside that's for sure. He's
under He gets undery on his skin,

737
00:55:39.559 --> 00:55:43.519
so he's he's accomplished that. So
it'll be a test to see what happens.

738
00:55:43.719 --> 00:55:47.000
We say, come but uh.
Moving on, Orlando Magic have announced

739
00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:51.960
that they are playing to retire Shaquille
o'news jersey. I should have been did

740
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:55.679
that? Is Shaquille O'Neill deserving of
a jersey retirement of the Magic? Chris

741
00:55:55.719 --> 00:56:00.320
go ahead, bro Absolutely so the
Magic. That seption of the Magic was

742
00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:07.320
at eighty nine. Shaquille came in
ninety two, right before Shaq got there.

743
00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:13.079
The big attraction was Disneyland or Disney
World. My bad Shaq came and

744
00:56:14.039 --> 00:56:19.519
for those four years he was in
Orlando playoff team or he took him to

745
00:56:19.519 --> 00:56:22.880
the finals in ninety five All Stars
beat the Book. Yes, yes,

746
00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:29.400
took him to the finals, I
think, averaging what twenty seven a game,

747
00:56:29.480 --> 00:56:31.840
twelve rebounds? Like he brought all
the numbers, He brought the he

748
00:56:31.880 --> 00:56:36.880
brought the fans out to Orlando.
Before he got there, wasn't really you

749
00:56:36.880 --> 00:56:40.639
know much going on there. Yes, you you It is right to retire

750
00:56:40.679 --> 00:56:47.400
this man's number. Superman should be
retired in Orlando thirty two. So here

751
00:56:47.400 --> 00:56:53.679
here's my take before keys goes on. I am very selfish when it comes

752
00:56:53.679 --> 00:57:02.800
to retirements, very selfish. We
had a show uh asking about ray Allen's

753
00:57:02.920 --> 00:57:08.400
retirement in Milwaukee. I said,
the Bucks owe him nothing. He did

754
00:57:08.519 --> 00:57:14.039
nothing for us. He didn't win
a title. He he had three point

755
00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:16.800
contests. We almost went to the
finals, but we didn't win anything.

756
00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:21.280
We won some games. Okay,
no one's ever sat down. Man.

757
00:57:21.320 --> 00:57:24.960
Do you remember that game ray Allen
shot the three and took us to the

758
00:57:24.960 --> 00:57:29.239
finals to face Philly. But they
do, say, you remember when ray

759
00:57:29.239 --> 00:57:35.599
Allen hit the three to help Miami
he win the championship. They're Orlando Magic,

760
00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:42.960
Oh Shaquille O'Neil nothing. They should
not retire that jersey. However,

761
00:57:43.559 --> 00:57:47.480
I see why they are. He's
deserving. But if they didn't do it,

762
00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:52.159
people shouldn't be upset about it because
he left. He left them hanging,

763
00:57:52.440 --> 00:57:57.440
y'all know that's my punchline. I
hate when people leave people hanging.

764
00:57:57.760 --> 00:58:00.000
He left them hanging. I remember, I said, because it's a small

765
00:58:00.039 --> 00:58:05.039
world, but I remember someone in
the business world left me hanging and came

766
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:07.760
back and thought everything was gonna be
okay. I'm like, oh, we'll

767
00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:10.079
show love. You know what I'm
saying, We'll drop up. But no,

768
00:58:10.360 --> 00:58:14.039
you left me hanging. I'm not
going back, you know what I'm

769
00:58:14.039 --> 00:58:17.719
saying. Same with the Orlando Magic. He left them hanging. He went

770
00:58:17.800 --> 00:58:22.280
to LA, he saw the bright
lights, the bright stars, and he

771
00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:24.920
killed in LA. So they retired
his number. Miami should do it if

772
00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:30.119
they haven't done it. But I
don't necessarily think Orlando has to do it

773
00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:34.760
because let's not act like we're always
talking about teams here. Orlando at the

774
00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:37.639
time had one of the best all
around teams in the NBA. They had

775
00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:43.920
Nick Anderson, right, they had
Anthony Hardaway right, they had Scott Skiles

776
00:58:43.960 --> 00:58:47.039
on on his latter years, right, they had Dennis scott Man. Orlando

777
00:58:47.159 --> 00:58:53.079
had a roster. Shaq did change
the game. So from a business standpoint,

778
00:58:53.280 --> 00:58:58.559
you'd be a fool for not to
retire his jersey because everybody else is

779
00:58:58.599 --> 00:59:02.519
gonna do it, right, But
Orlando owes him nothing. They do Why

780
00:59:02.760 --> 00:59:07.679
Why? Because before Shaq came there, nobody cared about Orlando. Besides the

781
00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:15.320
gother Disney World. You wouldn't even
Orlando wouldn't even be on your top destination

782
00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:22.760
for vacation. Spots until Shaq came
there and became a dominant presence. So

783
00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:25.960
therefore you automatically owe him just off
of that in itself. You know how

784
00:59:25.960 --> 00:59:30.880
many tickets he sold for the arena, You know how much money he made

785
00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:37.679
for that organization. The Orlando Magic
jersey right now is a rep is a

786
00:59:37.719 --> 00:59:40.760
throwback because of Shaq. Otherwise,
outside of Shack, who else you're gonna

787
00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:47.559
who throwbacks jersey? Do you want
that played for Orlando? M the player

788
00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:52.920
that they say never lived up to
the hype. He didn't, He didn't

789
00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:59.440
injury. He was a baller,
right, But Shaq was dominant. He

790
00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:05.280
was a forced to be wreckon with. He changed the game of basketball because

791
01:00:05.320 --> 01:00:07.840
of his size and his abilities.
The greatest big man that ever played the

792
01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:14.880
game. But do you really think
after four years he deserves a retirement after

793
01:00:14.920 --> 01:00:19.800
only giving that team four years?
If Dame Lillard doesn't win a title here

794
01:00:19.800 --> 01:00:22.320
and he only Dame has what two
years left on his contract? If Dame

795
01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:25.360
doesn't win a title here he only
stays here two years, do we retire

796
01:00:25.400 --> 01:00:30.360
his jersey? It's different? How
different? Come on, man, No

797
01:00:30.519 --> 01:00:35.880
give me a reason much for one? How long have the Bucks been around,

798
01:00:36.559 --> 01:00:39.760
not years, years, year,
many years. The Magic were in.

799
01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:44.159
You know, they were around for
what three years before Shaq came?

800
01:00:44.719 --> 01:00:46.800
Nothing was going on. They didn't
have anything to go off of. You're

801
01:00:46.840 --> 01:00:51.840
an expion expansion. There you go. Shack brought it all. I think

802
01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:54.679
you got to and then on top
of that, took him to a title,

803
01:00:54.760 --> 01:00:58.800
or took him to a finals.
They didn't get the they didn't get

804
01:00:58.840 --> 01:01:01.480
the chip, but he took him
there. They had they had a great

805
01:01:01.519 --> 01:01:07.199
team. I think you gotta I
think you have got to definitely retire that.

806
01:01:09.440 --> 01:01:15.599
Like this, who's more Before you
answer who's more valuable? Who was

807
01:01:15.679 --> 01:01:20.440
more valuable to Orlando Magic, Dwight
Howard or Shaquille O'Neill. Before you answer

808
01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:28.760
who was more valuable? Who gave
that team more shack lies? Shack lies?

809
01:01:29.440 --> 01:01:34.000
Because listen to this, Chris,
I was gonna say, Okay,

810
01:01:34.039 --> 01:01:37.039
here's I'm stipid, go ahead to
jump in. What more did the White

811
01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:40.800
dude than Shaq did? Because they
both took their teams to the to the

812
01:01:40.840 --> 01:01:45.960
finals. Didn't they go? Didn't
the White take them to the finals.

813
01:01:45.119 --> 01:01:47.400
He went to the conference final,
he went to the NBA Finals and loss

814
01:01:47.400 --> 01:01:52.840
of the Lakers. He had a
squad. Uh there, Yeah, Lewis

815
01:01:52.920 --> 01:01:57.519
Lewis, he had Jamiir and Nelson, they had a squad too. Yeah.

816
01:01:58.360 --> 01:02:00.480
I think Shaq come on, could
think just think of it like this,

817
01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:06.199
Dre without shock they coming in that
the dispension team, they'd already had

818
01:02:06.239 --> 01:02:10.199
three bad seasons, right Yeah.
Do you think they still exist right now

819
01:02:10.239 --> 01:02:15.320
if Shockton come in and have his
presence on that franchise, because they be

820
01:02:15.400 --> 01:02:22.280
gone like Seattle is right now Vancouver
exactly, they be gone like the Grizzlies.

821
01:02:22.280 --> 01:02:24.719
They be Vancouver Grizzlies. They be
gone, and they be gone like

822
01:02:24.800 --> 01:02:30.239
the Seattle SuperSonics. Here's they be
out of here. They would have never

823
01:02:30.280 --> 01:02:32.800
even been at the White and Orlando. Here's why I say that, Shaquille

824
01:02:32.800 --> 01:02:42.559
O'Neill, No, that's real.
Give me, you're my guess. Okay,

825
01:02:42.880 --> 01:02:50.159
let's let's let down. You know, you know it's I'm gonna give

826
01:02:50.639 --> 01:02:55.400
the ball. You can get the
flight in the way. Listen to White

827
01:02:55.519 --> 01:03:01.360
Howard though, and I'm not all
the people in the listening to Chris to

828
01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:07.559
Marquis, to Zeke, to Terrence
to Tom. I am not saying that

829
01:03:07.639 --> 01:03:14.440
Dwhite is better than Shaq, but
the White's contributions to Orlando compared to Shacks

830
01:03:14.599 --> 01:03:16.440
were way better. How many years? How many I'm gonna get there?

831
01:03:17.119 --> 01:03:23.760
Dwhite Howard while in Orlando delivered three
Defensive Player of the Year awards. Three

832
01:03:24.320 --> 01:03:30.559
while in Orlando, Okay. Dwhite
Howard averaged a near triple double while in

833
01:03:30.679 --> 01:03:37.400
Orlando. Nearly every season that he
played for the Magic. The Magic were

834
01:03:37.480 --> 01:03:43.400
a playoff team nearly every season that
he played with that team. The only

835
01:03:43.440 --> 01:03:46.760
reason he left was because of his
feud with stan Van Gundy. Now what

836
01:03:46.840 --> 01:03:51.880
I'm saying is, if you're gonna
retire Shack, you dang show better retired

837
01:03:51.920 --> 01:03:55.760
to White Howard because he made the
Magic relevant again. How long was he

838
01:03:55.800 --> 01:04:00.719
in Orlando? He played his most
of his career until he got older.

839
01:04:00.760 --> 01:04:05.119
But he played in Orlando UH one, T two, four, six,

840
01:04:05.320 --> 01:04:10.480
eight, eight seasons in Orlando before
he was traded around the league. Eight

841
01:04:10.519 --> 01:04:14.559
seasons in Orlando. He played eight
seasons. They got no championships, went

842
01:04:14.599 --> 01:04:18.519
for they have no championships and still
did not get a title. He did

843
01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:23.559
he got all those defensive player of
the years didn't or whatever you know,

844
01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:28.239
and didn't He didn't get a chip
I don't think, not with Orlando.

845
01:04:28.400 --> 01:04:36.039
No, not with Orlando mand Wight. Go on. Now that's a difference.

846
01:04:36.320 --> 01:04:40.519
He might not he might not get
he might not get no retirement,

847
01:04:40.559 --> 01:04:43.159
you know what I mean. Just
I'm just saying, I'm being real.

848
01:04:43.960 --> 01:04:46.079
He might not get one because of
it, because all this stuff that's going

849
01:04:46.119 --> 01:04:50.639
on him. Listen, I'm going
to say this, Orlando. Is it

850
01:04:50.679 --> 01:04:56.400
a worthy thing that they're doing.
Absolutely, it's shocked the all time greatest.

851
01:04:56.519 --> 01:05:00.039
Yes, But I don't think anyone
loses sleep if they don't retire his

852
01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:04.679
jersey. Is he Worthy's sure?
But I don't think they owe him that

853
01:05:04.760 --> 01:05:09.119
they do. I don't, I
don't, I don't. I don't hate

854
01:05:09.360 --> 01:05:12.760
left. He became great. He
was great before he left, but he

855
01:05:12.840 --> 01:05:15.000
went and been great somewhere else,
and then he went somewhere else. Have

856
01:05:15.079 --> 01:05:16.920
been great when he was a record
breaker, he was breaking down realms.

857
01:05:17.079 --> 01:05:21.639
Yes. So if you're so,
this is what I'll say. Orlando retire

858
01:05:21.840 --> 01:05:27.119
his jersey because he's in a he's
a once in a lifetime player, not

859
01:05:27.280 --> 01:05:30.079
because of the contributions he gave to
the team, because there were none.

860
01:05:30.280 --> 01:05:34.599
There was besides relevancy. What there
wouldn't be no Orlando Magic right now.

861
01:05:34.800 --> 01:05:43.199
Okay, he gave them a chance
to extend their life expectancy. Because when

862
01:05:43.239 --> 01:05:47.920
when most when most expansion teams come, if you're bad for the first five

863
01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:53.440
years, non ti ten, they
move you. Oh yeah, look how

864
01:05:53.440 --> 01:05:59.000
many times how these cities that the
Grizzlies been too. Bro The only expansion

865
01:05:59.039 --> 01:06:00.679
team that has worked, I think
for the past couple of years, it's

866
01:06:00.679 --> 01:06:04.960
been Toronto. Right in Vegas would
work because it'll have Lebron's money. But

867
01:06:05.199 --> 01:06:11.639
you know, I'm not I'm not
down playing what Shaq has done for Orlando.

868
01:06:12.480 --> 01:06:16.559
It's take it like this. It's
in that same boat, like Oklahoma

869
01:06:16.639 --> 01:06:25.559
City with KD. Without KD,
that team would have lost. It's franchised

870
01:06:26.039 --> 01:06:30.639
without those key players. You get
what I'm saying, Like Oklahoma City because

871
01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:36.679
Seattle lost out and they became Oklahoma
City. Right Yeah. Without KD,

872
01:06:38.079 --> 01:06:42.039
Oklahoma City would have been done.
They would have been done, They'd have

873
01:06:42.039 --> 01:06:46.360
been finished. Without Shaq. Orlando
would have been finished without Vince Carter.

874
01:06:47.639 --> 01:06:51.280
No Toronto, No Toronto. I
get that, you know what I'm saying,

875
01:06:51.639 --> 01:06:56.360
Like there's certain players who do certain
things for a franchise and saved them

876
01:06:56.400 --> 01:06:59.280
Shack saved them. Well, you
know, loyalty means a lot to me,

877
01:06:59.559 --> 01:07:02.360
and I just don't think Shaq was
loyal. He wasn't loyal to Orlando,

878
01:07:04.119 --> 01:07:06.880
just like Ray Allen wasn't loyal to
us. Okay, while you over

879
01:07:06.920 --> 01:07:12.320
there talking, just like Carmela wasn't
loyal to the Knicks. Okay, just

880
01:07:12.360 --> 01:07:15.000
like Phil Jackson wasn't loyal to the
Knicks. Right, Just no, no,

881
01:07:15.000 --> 01:07:17.039
no, no, Because you're over
there on pay per view giving your

882
01:07:17.079 --> 01:07:26.800
commentary. You know what I'm saying. Let's talk about the Nick. Well,

883
01:07:26.840 --> 01:07:34.679
the Knicks how good? How about
the Knicks were good? The shots

884
01:07:34.719 --> 01:07:39.760
have fire? Christ he was just
Cleveland Brown's hat, all Like, what

885
01:07:39.760 --> 01:07:42.880
what? What? What are you
trying to prove her on that Cleveland Brown's

886
01:07:42.920 --> 01:07:47.000
hat. Man, I was gonna
say, Lebron loyalty he gave. You

887
01:07:47.039 --> 01:07:49.760
know, he was loyal to the
Calves. He left, went to Miami,

888
01:07:49.840 --> 01:07:53.719
did his whole thing, and then
came back and got him a title.

889
01:07:53.960 --> 01:07:57.960
So, Dre, I see what
you're saying about Shaq never bringing the

890
01:07:58.000 --> 01:08:01.519
title home. But I don't know
if Lebron came back didn't get the Caps

891
01:08:01.599 --> 01:08:09.199
the title, what will we not
retire his number, Lebron. I think

892
01:08:09.239 --> 01:08:15.440
the difference is Lebron didn't give for
Lebron here eight seasons, and the white

893
01:08:15.440 --> 01:08:19.319
did too. We're not talking about
the white. I'm just saying he's talking

894
01:08:19.359 --> 01:08:24.000
about uh Sha, I know.
I'm just saying you're talking about the white

895
01:08:24.039 --> 01:08:29.680
gay. I'm saying you saying the
white argument is on the wrong scale.

896
01:08:29.800 --> 01:08:31.880
I'm just saying, think about you
saying the white did eight years. Lebron

897
01:08:31.920 --> 01:08:38.760
did eight years and they were in
the finals seven of them. You're talking

898
01:08:38.760 --> 01:08:42.439
about the white. Did you know
the finals one time? You know what?

899
01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:45.840
The White couldn't get to the finals
because of the Lebron stopper. The

900
01:08:45.960 --> 01:08:48.680
Lebron stopper. But anyway, man, let's get into Bucks talk before we

901
01:08:48.720 --> 01:08:53.720
wrap it up. And here's one
that I'm really interested in, you know,

902
01:08:53.720 --> 01:09:00.359
because we're all hometown guys. Uh
are the Indiana Pacers the Milwaukee Bucks

903
01:09:00.520 --> 01:09:06.920
kryptonite? The Pacers are four and
one versus the Bucks this season, including

904
01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:12.560
in season tournament. If they were
the match up with the Bucks in the

905
01:09:12.600 --> 01:09:17.920
playoffs, could they beat them?
Could they beat the Bucks in a playoff

906
01:09:17.960 --> 01:09:20.920
series? No? First answer.
The first part of the question are the

907
01:09:20.920 --> 01:09:26.359
Pacers the Bucks kryptonite. Chris,
you said you gotta lot to say on

908
01:09:26.399 --> 01:09:29.359
this. I guess we'll let you
go first. Are they see that they're

909
01:09:29.960 --> 01:09:34.239
they're the bucks kryptonite until the Bucks
decide that they want to play small like

910
01:09:34.279 --> 01:09:40.479
the Pacers. If they continue,
will and our Brook Lopez and Chris middles

911
01:09:40.960 --> 01:09:46.520
will because that's how I feel.
They play pretty slow and they can't keep

912
01:09:46.640 --> 01:09:50.880
up with the Pacers. I think
for now, until they do something different,

913
01:09:50.880 --> 01:09:55.279
all right, let me let me
go back. I didn't want the

914
01:09:55.319 --> 01:09:58.600
Bucks, and this might not be
popular opinion, but I did not want

915
01:09:58.600 --> 01:10:01.560
the Bucks to re sign Chris Middle
or brook Lopez. I think it was

916
01:10:01.640 --> 01:10:05.079
time for a change from last year. Yeah, you play a certain way,

917
01:10:05.520 --> 01:10:10.760
you end up losing or No.
You gained Dame Lillard, you lose

918
01:10:10.880 --> 01:10:14.239
Drew, so you you know,
we know what happens there. You gained

919
01:10:14.279 --> 01:10:17.560
some scoring, but you lose some
defense. The big guy Brooke to me,

920
01:10:17.960 --> 01:10:21.239
he just played slow. He he's
a good player, he can shoot

921
01:10:21.279 --> 01:10:26.720
from the outside, he can defend. I just think they need a change.

922
01:10:26.840 --> 01:10:30.640
Chris, he's hurt a lot,
and I just think he's slow on

923
01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:35.520
defense. But until they do something
about that, Yeah, the Pacers are

924
01:10:35.560 --> 01:10:45.840
there kryptonite. Mm hmm. I
said, wait, wait, oh,

925
01:10:45.079 --> 01:10:53.079
my see. I usually don't like
to agree with ours when they come to

926
01:10:53.079 --> 01:10:57.600
my Bucks, but when you get
to talking about trays that I should should

927
01:10:57.600 --> 01:11:00.760
have happened a long time ago.
And I've been saying this how many seasons

928
01:11:00.800 --> 01:11:03.039
straight now three? I've been saying
Chris Middleton should have been on the trading

929
01:11:03.039 --> 01:11:08.199
block two seasons ago. It got
somebody younger. They can do exactly what

930
01:11:08.279 --> 01:11:15.680
he do. But is they the
Bucks kryptonite? No? I think the

931
01:11:15.720 --> 01:11:18.520
Bucks already allowing them to do what
they want to do, just so when

932
01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:26.840
playoff time come, they can't figure
them out because it's because almost it's almost

933
01:11:26.920 --> 01:11:30.520
inevident you're gonna have to see them
some point in the playoffs, true,

934
01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:38.560
and playoff Giannis is different from it
regular season Giannis. Playoff Chris is different

935
01:11:38.560 --> 01:11:43.439
from regular season Chris. And we
all know big Shot Dang is gonna step

936
01:11:43.520 --> 01:11:48.359
up to another level when the playoffs
come. So I think the Bucks are

937
01:11:48.479 --> 01:11:54.880
kind of like testing things out when
it comes to Indiana because they feel like

938
01:11:54.880 --> 01:11:59.880
they're in an area right now where
they can do that. And it might

939
01:12:00.239 --> 01:12:03.239
because we have we do have problems
with younger teams, and we can go

940
01:12:03.479 --> 01:12:08.479
younger if we really needed to,
But the Bucks like to stick with what

941
01:12:08.520 --> 01:12:14.439
they stick with until they really have
to. But like you said, this

942
01:12:14.600 --> 01:12:19.239
season, if we don't win,
if Chris is on that roster next year,

943
01:12:21.760 --> 01:12:27.039
it is going to be a big
problem for the Bucks and they won't

944
01:12:27.039 --> 01:12:30.359
be able to get rid of them. Then I'm gonna say this. I'm

945
01:12:30.399 --> 01:12:34.399
going to say this because y'all know
me. I am probably the most objective

946
01:12:35.359 --> 01:12:41.279
Bucks fan that y'all probably know a
long time. She's the ticket holder.

947
01:12:41.479 --> 01:12:45.159
When they're playing great, I say
they're playing great, when they're playing trashy,

948
01:12:45.279 --> 01:12:47.840
I say they're playing trashy. Milwaukee. You know you always hit the

949
01:12:47.840 --> 01:12:51.319
ticket holder. You said it on
every episode. We're saying as long as

950
01:12:51.399 --> 01:12:56.600
y'all know, as long as y'all
know who, the real point is.

951
01:12:57.000 --> 01:13:00.880
So the point is, are they
the Kryptonite? Absolutely? Absolutely? Uh

952
01:13:00.960 --> 01:13:05.119
we we we. We did not
take the Miami heat serious last year.

953
01:13:05.239 --> 01:13:11.000
Look what happened year before that.
I'm not gonna count that because it was

954
01:13:11.000 --> 01:13:13.800
Boston the year before that. We
swept Miami. Year before that, we

955
01:13:13.800 --> 01:13:16.479
didn't take Miami heat and they beat
us, the Milwaukee Bucks have to absolutely

956
01:13:16.479 --> 01:13:19.479
take the Nyanipacer series. So your
theory is that this is all a plan

957
01:13:19.640 --> 01:13:23.880
is stupid. You should not have
said that. That was not one of

958
01:13:23.920 --> 01:13:29.880
your best lines. It was a
terrible one. Okay, So back,

959
01:13:29.960 --> 01:13:33.119
I didn't say that. I'm just
hoping that's what they're doing. Well,

960
01:13:33.239 --> 01:13:38.479
thank you for saying hoping, because
that that that was because Janni's was offended.

961
01:13:39.199 --> 01:13:43.760
He was offended how Halliburton was laughing
at them on their home court.

962
01:13:44.119 --> 01:13:49.760
He was offended how Halliburton posterized him
multiple times. The Bucks as an organization

963
01:13:50.239 --> 01:13:56.159
are starting to even question the equipment
manager's role in all these losing games.

964
01:13:56.199 --> 01:13:59.079
Yanni said, it starts with the
equipment manager. Maybe he's not washing our

965
01:13:59.119 --> 01:14:01.920
clothes well enough. Now, obviously
that shut up. Yes he did,

966
01:14:02.439 --> 01:14:08.359
Yes he did. Obviously that's probably
sarcasm. But the Milwaukee Bucks better not

967
01:14:08.479 --> 01:14:11.960
sleep on the Indiana Pacers because they're
showing that they can't beat them. Okay,

968
01:14:12.239 --> 01:14:14.640
it is what it is. I
didn't do it, the records did.

969
01:14:15.319 --> 01:14:18.600
Okay. Right now, as it
stands, the Milwaukee Bucks cannot beat

970
01:14:18.600 --> 01:14:24.159
the Indiana Pacers. And here's what
I see it's a matchup problem. It's

971
01:14:24.159 --> 01:14:27.600
a matchup problem, right. Uh. You put Halla Burdon on you and

972
01:14:27.640 --> 01:14:30.640
it's fine, But they're Miles Turner
can't Brook can't keep up with him,

973
01:14:31.119 --> 01:14:34.880
right, you know what I'm saying. Uh, the Indiana Pacers, Actually

974
01:14:34.920 --> 01:14:39.319
he can. Miles Turner is not
really that I'm telling you. The problem

975
01:14:39.359 --> 01:14:42.199
is that young dude they got.
I can never think of his name.

976
01:14:42.439 --> 01:14:50.840
Uh, Benedict Matthern. He is
a problem for the Bucks. I don't

977
01:14:50.840 --> 01:14:55.960
know what it is. When he
plays the Bucks. He is a match

978
01:14:56.199 --> 01:15:00.520
up problem because if you go small, he outpowers the Smalls. If you

979
01:15:00.600 --> 01:15:04.279
go big, he out He's quicker
than the Biggs. So he's he's the

980
01:15:04.399 --> 01:15:10.680
problem in our matchup, along with
Halliburton having good games. At the same

981
01:15:10.720 --> 01:15:15.000
time, it's rough and it's like
they want to beat the Bucks. They

982
01:15:15.119 --> 01:15:17.840
like they want to play that.
Everybody want to play their hardest against the

983
01:15:17.840 --> 01:15:20.479
Bucks. When you play Giannis,
you want to play your hardest. When

984
01:15:20.520 --> 01:15:24.239
you play Lebron, you want to
play your hardest. When you play KD

985
01:15:24.239 --> 01:15:29.359
you're gonna play your hardest. Yeah, But in a series that's a lot

986
01:15:29.439 --> 01:15:32.239
different, a lot tougher because the
game slows down, and that goes for

987
01:15:32.359 --> 01:15:36.520
everybody that running gun doesn't happen in
the playoffs like that, like Indiana's doing

988
01:15:36.640 --> 01:15:41.520
and beating us doing the regular season. All I'm saying is we're a worse

989
01:15:41.640 --> 01:15:46.439
off defensive team. Yes we don't
have we score, Yes we we we

990
01:15:46.640 --> 01:15:50.680
score, but we're letting the Pacers
put up one hundred and forty points,

991
01:15:50.960 --> 01:15:57.039
one hundred and thirty points. Our
Dame scores thirteen and and Giannis gets a

992
01:15:57.079 --> 01:16:01.920
double double and Chris Middleton maybe shows
up to work. If this happens in

993
01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:08.680
the playoffs, and your words adopted
from Shaq, the Milwaukee Bucks are barbecue

994
01:16:08.760 --> 01:16:13.800
chicken. The Indiana Pacers are not
a team right now. I'm not saying

995
01:16:13.840 --> 01:16:17.600
that it can't get better, but
we should be very concerned about a matchup

996
01:16:17.720 --> 01:16:21.880
against the Indiana Pacers in the playoffs. The Bucks are losing. Do we

997
01:16:21.880 --> 01:16:26.000
lose to the Spurs that we actually
steal that one? We beat the Spurs.

998
01:16:26.079 --> 01:16:30.239
We lost to the god awful Houston
Rockets last night, the Houston Rockets,

999
01:16:30.560 --> 01:16:34.319
So hold up. Sometimes the cred
rock hit a rock and it's rocked

1000
01:16:34.319 --> 01:16:40.479
four times for the Pacers. Okay, And if we get in the playoffs

1001
01:16:40.880 --> 01:16:45.199
and we have to match up with
those Indiana Pacers. It might not be

1002
01:16:45.279 --> 01:16:47.239
the outcome we're hoping for it.
That's all I'm saying. Now we have

1003
01:16:47.359 --> 01:16:50.479
all up. We got half a
season of fix it keys. Okay,

1004
01:16:50.560 --> 01:16:55.079
I get half a season. I
get you, But don't knock the Pacers

1005
01:16:55.119 --> 01:16:58.000
and the ability to score, because
they ain't only put up numbers on us.

1006
01:16:58.119 --> 01:17:02.560
They put up one fifty on the
Hawks US. Okay, wait,

1007
01:17:02.560 --> 01:17:04.640
wait, wait, wait, wait, go back. The Hawks don't have

1008
01:17:04.680 --> 01:17:13.680
Giannis, don't have Dame. Next, come on, they put up the

1009
01:17:13.720 --> 01:17:18.479
Knicks. Okay, who also just
did a ridiculous dumb trade. We didn't

1010
01:17:18.479 --> 01:17:23.319
put that on the docket. But
what were the Knicks thinking trade their talent

1011
01:17:23.399 --> 01:17:26.720
for? I don't even know who
they got. But let's talk about rebuild.

1012
01:17:26.800 --> 01:17:31.039
But that wasn't that wasn't smart at
all. On the Hornets without a

1013
01:17:31.119 --> 01:17:36.520
little man, one little man with
the fine Instagram check LaMelo ball, Yeah

1014
01:17:36.680 --> 01:17:39.840
yeah, yeah, yeah, God
still working on me. I'm one hundred

1015
01:17:39.880 --> 01:17:44.960
and thirty on the Clippers, okay, one hundred. So you're proving my

1016
01:17:45.079 --> 01:17:50.119
point. You're proving my point because
if Yiannis doesn't show up and Middleton has

1017
01:17:50.119 --> 01:17:54.960
an off night or Dame has an
off night. You know, they're good

1018
01:17:55.000 --> 01:17:58.920
for an off night every three or
four games or so. In the NBA

1019
01:17:59.119 --> 01:18:03.439
playoffs, the Bucks don't fix the
woes that they're struggling with, whatever that

1020
01:18:03.680 --> 01:18:08.800
is. The Indiana Pacers will mess
around and eliminate the Bucks from the playoffs.

1021
01:18:08.880 --> 01:18:14.079
They are absolutely on the heat too
this season. They are absolutely all

1022
01:18:14.119 --> 01:18:16.199
cryptoi. So I take back what
I said at the beginning of the season.

1023
01:18:16.880 --> 01:18:19.920
I said, and I'm sure my
boy Zeke has a voice memo somewhere.

1024
01:18:20.439 --> 01:18:25.119
I said, no one was afraid
of the Indiana Pacers. No one's

1025
01:18:25.119 --> 01:18:28.520
gonna take them serious. And now
I stand correct. Didn't say that about

1026
01:18:28.520 --> 01:18:30.279
the n You did. You were
the only one at the table. No,

1027
01:18:30.399 --> 01:18:33.600
I think you and I agreed that
no one is gonna take them serious.

1028
01:18:33.640 --> 01:18:36.359
I think Zeke was the one that
was like, what what y'all crazy?

1029
01:18:36.479 --> 01:18:39.439
No? I said that, go
back and listen, keys. You

1030
01:18:39.439 --> 01:18:41.960
know, if you said it,
I would tell you said you agree with

1031
01:18:42.000 --> 01:18:47.000
me. I said Indiana and the
Lakers. Remember no, I said Indiana

1032
01:18:47.159 --> 01:18:50.479
and BA Lake, And I said
the Lakers would have lost to what you

1033
01:18:50.600 --> 01:18:57.560
call it? Who did they play? I don't remember, but we both

1034
01:18:57.560 --> 01:18:59.800
were on the same train. I
didn't say the bus. I knew the

1035
01:19:00.039 --> 01:19:01.199
wouldn't win in the season to turn
No, no, no, we were

1036
01:19:01.239 --> 01:19:06.199
both You did you picked Indiana and
a Sacramento. Yes, I said,

1037
01:19:06.239 --> 01:19:10.000
those two young teams you're gonna have
to watch out for. Yeah, yeah,

1038
01:19:10.119 --> 01:19:14.239
that's what. Yeah. So here's
another controversy one, and we'll wrap

1039
01:19:14.359 --> 01:19:20.159
up in a few with this.
Is this Milwaukee Bucks team a team we

1040
01:19:20.239 --> 01:19:28.199
trust to win a title in twenty
twenty four, Chris from what I've been

1041
01:19:28.279 --> 01:19:33.039
watching, No, I mean I
know we still have Oh yeah, yeah,

1042
01:19:33.279 --> 01:19:36.399
I know we still have some time. Like it's still some time.

1043
01:19:36.840 --> 01:19:43.920
All right, let me let me
put no asterisk. There's still a lot

1044
01:19:43.960 --> 01:19:47.159
of time left for them to get
it together. But I don't see the

1045
01:19:47.159 --> 01:19:51.600
Bucks playing defense. I don't know
what it is, but the defense is

1046
01:19:51.640 --> 01:19:54.800
just not there. And yeah,
we can all you know, blame it

1047
01:19:54.800 --> 01:19:59.840
on Drew being gone, but they're
just they're not showing up on defense.

1048
01:19:59.880 --> 01:20:02.600
And then have you all seen like
Dre you just you just kind of mentioned

1049
01:20:02.600 --> 01:20:06.560
it. But they go on these
laws where they miss shots like it even

1050
01:20:06.600 --> 01:20:12.199
happened in the end season tournament against
the Pacers, they start missing shots and

1051
01:20:12.439 --> 01:20:15.079
you know, you can't get a
bucket. Giannis will go and do his

1052
01:20:15.159 --> 01:20:17.880
euro step and then you know,
miss it off the backboard. The team,

1053
01:20:18.399 --> 01:20:20.960
you know, the opponent to get
it go down score. They'll come

1054
01:20:21.000 --> 01:20:25.079
back Chrystal miss a three, They'll
get a rebound, pass it out to

1055
01:20:25.199 --> 01:20:29.720
counterton Hill miss a three. Like
they'll go through these laws where they cannot

1056
01:20:29.720 --> 01:20:33.279
get a bucket at all. So
I don't know right now, I don't

1057
01:20:33.319 --> 01:20:39.840
know if I trust them to win
another title this year. Right now now

1058
01:20:40.039 --> 01:20:42.880
again they can get it together.
I don't know if they're looking to,

1059
01:20:43.199 --> 01:20:45.920
you know, make a trade or
anything, bring someone in here that can

1060
01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:51.000
knock down some shots they got damn
Yeah. But right now asterisk No,

1061
01:20:51.439 --> 01:21:01.399
I don't trust them to win it. Asterisk Kesey, Well you think can

1062
01:21:01.680 --> 01:21:09.640
do we trust this team to win
a title in twenty twenty four. I

1063
01:21:09.760 --> 01:21:19.680
trust them. And the only reason
I say that is because even with our

1064
01:21:19.760 --> 01:21:27.439
record that we have, we still
number two in the West. I'm saying,

1065
01:21:27.560 --> 01:21:30.720
like, even with our record,
we would still be number two in

1066
01:21:30.760 --> 01:21:32.680
the West. Either way it goes, we would be number two in the

1067
01:21:32.720 --> 01:21:38.840
East or number two in the West, and with the Bucks at number one

1068
01:21:40.039 --> 01:21:49.279
is when we flop in the playoffs
because the first time was Boston and the

1069
01:21:49.319 --> 01:21:55.239
second time was Miami. We were
number one. We don't need to be

1070
01:21:55.319 --> 01:21:58.520
number one. We need to lose
some games to humble us a little bit

1071
01:21:59.039 --> 01:22:00.840
before the playoffs because there are some
arrogance there in the Bucks. You're saying,

1072
01:22:00.920 --> 01:22:05.520
Yeah, the arrogance of like you
think, like every time every game,

1073
01:22:05.520 --> 01:22:09.760
you're gonna come out to shoot that
many damn threes and win games.

1074
01:22:10.039 --> 01:22:13.840
It's not gonna be that all the
time. So the Bucks got to figure

1075
01:22:13.840 --> 01:22:16.880
out a way. Well, they
know how to do it, they just

1076
01:22:16.920 --> 01:22:21.079
don't do it often enough. Yeah, and Adrian Griffin has to coach.

1077
01:22:21.479 --> 01:22:25.760
Yeah, Adrian Griffin has to do
better. He has to put his foot

1078
01:22:25.800 --> 01:22:28.800
down the till and stop shooting all
those threes, because that is the biggest

1079
01:22:28.840 --> 01:22:32.000
issue with the Bucks. When they
lose, they shoot horrible from the three

1080
01:22:32.399 --> 01:22:36.680
and they lose, and that is
not how to win games. The Bucks

1081
01:22:36.680 --> 01:22:40.800
are shooting thirty to forty three is
a game we were at a game I'm

1082
01:22:40.840 --> 01:22:43.119
just going said think about that game
was at and they were shooting twelve percent

1083
01:22:43.199 --> 01:22:45.880
from and they kept shooting, and
they kept shooting. No one took the

1084
01:22:45.920 --> 01:22:49.079
ball in, no one went in
for the layups, no one took the

1085
01:22:49.119 --> 01:22:54.079
twos. They kept shooting for the
Milwaukee Bucks. What I'm gonna say is,

1086
01:22:54.119 --> 01:22:57.079
I absolutely think I've already spoken on
the Pacers being to krypt nine.

1087
01:22:57.079 --> 01:22:59.560
They are absolutely the Rypto nine.
So you could come on, we're about

1088
01:22:59.560 --> 01:23:03.560
to wrap up. They are absolutely
the Kryptonite. Adrian Griffin needs to coach

1089
01:23:03.600 --> 01:23:08.600
better. So this is not just
on the players. Okay, Adrian Griffin

1090
01:23:08.640 --> 01:23:12.119
has to coach batter. I don't
see a coach. I see an apprentice

1091
01:23:12.159 --> 01:23:16.199
out there that's struggling to gain the
attention of his team, that's struggling to

1092
01:23:16.279 --> 01:23:20.720
gain the attention of the talent that
he's coaching. Bobby Portis is going off

1093
01:23:20.720 --> 01:23:25.000
on him in the locker room.
Players on a bench are not even respecting

1094
01:23:25.039 --> 01:23:28.840
the calls that he's making. So
Adrian Griffin needs to figure out what the

1095
01:23:28.880 --> 01:23:32.000
heck the Bucks need to do.
The general manager, Brian not Brian Windhorse,

1096
01:23:32.199 --> 01:23:36.399
whoever our GM is, he needs
to say, Okay, this rotation,

1097
01:23:36.600 --> 01:23:42.479
this Dame experience, as great as
it is, we need another piece

1098
01:23:42.520 --> 01:23:46.720
here. We gotta have a shooter
Brook Lopez. I like Brooke, but

1099
01:23:46.800 --> 01:23:50.760
I do start to see the windedness. I'm starting to see it now.

1100
01:23:51.920 --> 01:23:57.279
Brook is a killer on defense,
a killer, but the offense is the

1101
01:23:57.359 --> 01:24:00.239
issue. But the defense, we
were ranked right before for the Christmas Break

1102
01:24:00.520 --> 01:24:05.000
like twenty one or twenty two in
defensive efficiency. That is god awful for

1103
01:24:05.119 --> 01:24:09.359
a team to try to win a
championship. So do I see the Bucks

1104
01:24:09.399 --> 01:24:13.000
in the twenty twenty four title right
now? Picture absolutely not. Because the

1105
01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:15.680
Bucks can barely beat the Pistons.
They certainly can barely beat the Boston Celtics,

1106
01:24:15.840 --> 01:24:21.359
and the Eastern Conference has changed dramatically. It's a changing of the guard.

1107
01:24:21.760 --> 01:24:25.840
I want my Bucks to win.
I am a hardcore Bucks fan.

1108
01:24:26.199 --> 01:24:29.159
I will get on this podcast and
say, yes, I will pick the

1109
01:24:29.199 --> 01:24:34.720
Bucks to win it all. Double
injury Jesus Man. Yeah, you know

1110
01:24:34.760 --> 01:24:39.359
what I'm saying, And so I
will say that. But the Milwaukee Bucks,

1111
01:24:39.479 --> 01:24:42.640
it starts with the coaching. It
starts with the coaching. So before

1112
01:24:42.640 --> 01:24:45.399
we wrap up, Mal, we
have a guest here, Chris, Me

1113
01:24:45.439 --> 01:24:47.840
and Keichy just gonna throw out some
random basketball questions. One answer, that's

1114
01:24:47.880 --> 01:24:50.439
all you gotta do. We'll throw
out some questions, you just give us

1115
01:24:50.479 --> 01:24:55.880
an answer. All time favorite NBA
player, all time favorite NBA player.

1116
01:24:56.079 --> 01:25:00.279
I'm gonna have to take it to
New York, Alan Houston, either,

1117
01:25:00.359 --> 01:25:04.479
Alan Houston, and he a lot
of people like who Pistons, you know,

1118
01:25:04.560 --> 01:25:14.239
the Pistons. Yeah, yeah,
but yeah, I'm just I'm just

1119
01:25:14.319 --> 01:25:16.399
I used to be a shooter,
and I just love just the way he

1120
01:25:16.399 --> 01:25:19.640
he just you know, he can
shoot. Most overrated player in the NBA

1121
01:25:20.079 --> 01:25:27.039
right now, right right now,
most overrated player who I don't know.

1122
01:25:27.279 --> 01:25:34.880
I will probably have to say Haliburton. You know what, Dang, that's

1123
01:25:34.920 --> 01:25:39.560
a great question. I might have
to go with Halliburton. Okay, current

1124
01:25:39.680 --> 01:25:46.119
MVP, current m VP right now, Yes, let's give it. I

1125
01:25:46.119 --> 01:25:49.600
don't want to say, let's give
it to Luca. Wow. Give it

1126
01:25:49.640 --> 01:25:55.319
to Luca Wow. He's got them
kind of there. Wow. You know,

1127
01:25:56.279 --> 01:26:02.800
I don't know. NBA Finals prediction, NBA Finals addiction today today,

1128
01:26:03.000 --> 01:26:08.399
right now, I'm gonna have to
go West Denver Nuggets. I'm gonna have

1129
01:26:08.439 --> 01:26:14.079
to say they're gonna get back in
and the Celtics. Celtics and the Nuggets

1130
01:26:14.479 --> 01:26:16.560
we got, but I'm hoping that
the Bucks can get it together and be

1131
01:26:16.600 --> 01:26:19.479
there who you got winning it winning
it all, winning it all. I'm

1132
01:26:19.479 --> 01:26:24.720
gonna say Denver again. Okay,
give us your all time starting five shooting

1133
01:26:24.720 --> 01:26:30.279
guard, shooting guard, all time
shooting guard. You gotta go with Michael

1134
01:26:30.319 --> 01:26:44.560
Jordan's point guard, point guard,
staphy small forward, small forward. Oh,

1135
01:26:44.680 --> 01:26:46.439
I might have to take it.
No, I can't go with him.

1136
01:26:46.840 --> 01:26:51.880
Uh. Small forward was Kevin Durant, the small forward? Was he

1137
01:26:51.960 --> 01:26:56.319
power? He could play both?
He played both. Not Kevin Durant,

1138
01:26:56.399 --> 01:27:00.640
Kevin Gardinet, Kevin gard power.
All right, I go with Durant as

1139
01:27:00.680 --> 01:27:05.840
small forward, okay, power,
power forward. I might have to go.

1140
01:27:09.079 --> 01:27:14.159
Dang, y'all getting me. Let's
go with a Kevin Garnett Okay center

1141
01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:18.439
shack okay, top three of all
time, top three, top three of

1142
01:27:18.600 --> 01:27:24.560
all time. Kareem Abdude Jabbar is
number one, number one, okay,

1143
01:27:25.479 --> 01:27:30.680
Michael Jordan's Okay, Kobe Bryant okay
four and five, four and five,

1144
01:27:30.760 --> 01:27:45.119
yeh shaquille O'Neil. Five. This
is great. Oh that's very interesting.

1145
01:27:45.119 --> 01:27:50.800
Oscar Robertson six. What is going
on? This is six? Wait?

1146
01:27:54.640 --> 01:28:09.760
Six, six of all time?
You're honest? Seven? You know what

1147
01:28:09.760 --> 01:28:16.880
he's doing how far down Lebron is? Is Lebron in your top ten?

1148
01:28:17.000 --> 01:28:19.760
He's in my top ten, okay, but he's not in his top seven.

1149
01:28:20.000 --> 01:28:27.720
And on that note, this has
been an episode of you I like

1150
01:28:27.760 --> 01:28:32.960
to think I'm not good? James
Harden or Dwayne Wade. James Harden and

1151
01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:40.760
Dwayne Waite. Come on, d
Wade Wade Way. He took Dwayne.

1152
01:28:40.760 --> 01:28:46.199
He took James Harden over Dwayne Wade. Not our big brother Zeke. So

1153
01:28:46.720 --> 01:28:49.000
listen man. Well, Chris,
thanks for being with us today. Man,

1154
01:28:49.039 --> 01:28:51.600
it was a blast having you with
us. Man. This has been

1155
01:28:51.640 --> 01:28:55.880
another episode of the ninety four feet
podcast. I have to take my brother

1156
01:28:55.960 --> 01:28:59.560
Keith. It was another good one. Appreciate our guests here today. Man,

1157
01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:02.800
I am my main man. Chris
in the building killing itlas. Appreciate

1158
01:29:02.880 --> 01:29:05.479
y'all. Thank y'all so much.
I had a blast. I had so

1159
01:29:05.560 --> 01:29:09.720
much fun. This is dope.
Let's go Yeah, yeah yeah. You

1160
01:29:09.720 --> 01:29:14.800
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1161
01:29:14.920 --> 01:29:17.600
My preferred is Apple, Keasey Ben
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1162
01:29:17.720 --> 01:29:20.720
It could be Spreakers, it could
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1163
01:29:20.760 --> 01:29:24.520
in the other garbage ones. Sorry, Andrew can be in my car.

1164
01:29:26.880 --> 01:29:30.399
Sorry, I'm sorry, let me
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1165
01:29:30.479 --> 01:29:34.680
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1166
01:29:34.720 --> 01:29:41.520
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1167
01:29:41.560 --> 01:29:45.359
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1168
01:29:45.439 --> 01:29:46.600
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