1 00:00:05,679 --> 00:00:09,480 Hi everyone, This is Christina and Carmen, and this is another episode of 2 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:14,519 a Spooky Tells, the podcast for all things a spooky and terrible stories. 3 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,519 I just make you a little bit depressed. That's what I have today. 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,800 Oh great, another cult. No, it's another cult. It's an exorcism. 5 00:00:23,199 --> 00:00:26,960 Oh okay, those are great. Also, this one not so much. 6 00:00:28,199 --> 00:00:33,439 It's terrible. I'll give the appropriate trigger warnies after our listeners story. 7 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,000 I have a listener story first. So if you have a listener story that 8 00:00:37,039 --> 00:00:40,679 you want to send into the podcast, you can call our Spooky hotline. 9 00:00:40,719 --> 00:00:44,560 That number is in the show notes. You can also email at spooky talsigmail 10 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,200 dot com. You can attach a voice note to the email. That's another 11 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,799 option. You can just write it in. You can also DM it on 12 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,799 our socials. Any of those are fine. We love receiving your stories. 13 00:00:54,119 --> 00:00:57,320 This was a phone call. There was two stories that were both short, 14 00:00:57,399 --> 00:01:00,359 but I wanted to separate them. So there's no like goodbye in this one 15 00:01:00,399 --> 00:01:04,000 because it cut off and then she called again to leave the second voicemail. 16 00:01:04,239 --> 00:01:07,319 Oh okay, so that's where she says goodbye, So she didn't just hang 17 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,280 up. There was a properly goodbye, but it's going to be in the 18 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:11,599 next one, all right, So our listener story, are you ready to 19 00:01:11,599 --> 00:01:17,120 pressed to it? Yeah? I am good afternoon from Jnver, Colorado. 20 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:22,519 My name is chat up that If and I love your guys this show it's 21 00:01:22,519 --> 00:01:29,159 so relatable. Let me start off with my story. As almost every Mexican 22 00:01:29,239 --> 00:01:36,200 family we would go every winter Caravani to Mexico be officed and one house, 23 00:01:36,799 --> 00:01:42,040 so maybe up to four family in one household, so that meant a family 24 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,120 to a room. So I was there in a room with my dad, 25 00:01:46,519 --> 00:01:51,680 my stepmom, and my two younger siblings, a brother and a sister. 26 00:01:52,079 --> 00:01:57,079 With Christmas time, everybody drinking partying. So I went to bed. But 27 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,120 in the night, which I thought was a night, I felt something jump 28 00:02:01,159 --> 00:02:06,280 on the bed and it started choking me. But when I opened my eyes 29 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,639 it was my sister, but he had like a cheating face. I didn't 30 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:15,560 really move when I didn't manage to that kind of like kissed her with my 31 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:20,199 foot and she went flying on the floor. So when that happened, all 32 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,840 the lights turned on and I thought it woke up. Maybe I wasn't sleeping. 33 00:02:24,599 --> 00:02:29,599 But when my pet mon chest. It was my little sister, and 34 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,960 she was crying on the floor saying that I had crushed her off the bed. 35 00:02:34,319 --> 00:02:38,800 I know, so scary and since that point, believe me, I 36 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:44,759 have not ever sat with my sister or wanted to be alone with her in 37 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:51,000 a room. And this was over It's funny. Uh wow, oh my 38 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:59,680 god, I don't I don't know, like a demon like for bow, 39 00:03:01,039 --> 00:03:06,639 it could have been that in her own like sleeperhouse's nightmare. She registered her 40 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,039 sister. But why was she on top of her? Yeah, that's the 41 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:13,800 weird part, because her sister says she was climbing into bed like crying. 42 00:03:13,879 --> 00:03:15,240 She kicked me. I was just climbing into bed. But then it's like, 43 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,800 why was she on top of you choking you? Yeah, with a 44 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:23,439 demon face. That's that's concerning exactly. Yeah, Like it sounds like, 45 00:03:23,719 --> 00:03:24,840 I mean, I guess if she was sleeping next to her, and then 46 00:03:24,879 --> 00:03:28,080 her dream she thought she was on top of her, so then she kicked 47 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,159 her. She could still kick her out of bed she's next to her. 48 00:03:30,319 --> 00:03:36,360 Yeah, yeah, still terrifying. I don't blame you, Chata for not 49 00:03:36,639 --> 00:03:40,759 wanting to be with her sister, even twenty two years later same same like, 50 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,400 how do you even Oh, that's that's scary. It's you know, 51 00:03:46,479 --> 00:03:50,000 it would have been less scary if the sister just woke up and she hadn't 52 00:03:50,039 --> 00:03:52,960 fallen off the bed, like if she was just like hare, are you 53 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,639 okay? But it's more terrifying that she kicked a demon like off of her 54 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,400 and then her sister was unlike Flory crying like that's scary. I wonder if 55 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,639 she like asked her like, hey, what were you doing? That's a 56 00:04:05,639 --> 00:04:09,479 good question. Let us know if you've ever asked her like, what were 57 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,919 you doing? What if she really was like on top of her choking her, 58 00:04:13,159 --> 00:04:15,680 yeah, because I mean there's a reason she doesn't feel still now comfortable 59 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,680 with her Yeah, she's a demon. Both things would be terrifying. Yeah, 60 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:25,680 man, speaking of demons. Today we are we are talking about a 61 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:32,279 possession this and I will give a trigger warning for child abuse, child sexual 62 00:04:32,319 --> 00:04:38,279 abuse, and murder. Hm. Wow great. Yeah, I'm sorry, 63 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,279 Carmen, but you listener, you can skip this if you want. Carmen 64 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:46,680 can't. So, so this is the Exorcism of Rosa Fernandez Gonsalves. Oh, 65 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,319 okay, and I know we focus on Latin America. But you know 66 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:56,160 what, when it's convenient to me, I also claim the term Hispanic and 67 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,439 so so she's from Spain. Yes, yes, this case is from Spain. 68 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,519 So today we're Hispanic. Don't be her Panic, be Hispanic. I 69 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,360 forgot, it doesn't matter. I might have said it wrong, but that's 70 00:05:06,399 --> 00:05:13,399 what we are today. We are Hispanic. This is a truly tragic case. 71 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,560 You know, exorcism movies and like stories, fictional stories or like stories 72 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,680 that don't end in murder that have to do with exorcisms I think are super 73 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:26,560 scary and entertaining, but like sadly, in the real world, in real 74 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,680 life, most exorcisms that take place end up in murder. M hmm. 75 00:05:30,319 --> 00:05:35,399 They're not as fun. Yeah, it's like murder, murder justified by religion. 76 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:40,120 M hmm. So yeah, that's what this is. This takes place 77 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:45,399 during the nineteen hundreds in Almanza, Spain. This town it's known for it's 78 00:05:45,439 --> 00:05:47,800 a wine. It's in Spain's wine region. I guess that's a thing. 79 00:05:48,079 --> 00:05:53,040 Okay, okay, I love me some wine. Maybe I'll make it to 80 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,560 it. Spania. Yeah, I thought it was almost a Spania. I 81 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,360 don't know how to do a Spanish accident. I'm sorry. I was gonna 82 00:05:59,439 --> 00:06:01,279 keep going and I was like stop, I know, I feel you. 83 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:06,000 Almansa also has a rich history. The town has been around since like the 84 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:12,759 fourteenth century. The name apparently is derived from an Arabic word that I can't 85 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,920 read, but the word means halfway of the road, okay, And it 86 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,560 dates back to the Roman Empire, like during the times of the Roman Empire. 87 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,439 Wow. And you know, for the longest time it was known as 88 00:06:23,439 --> 00:06:30,519 a peaceful, quiet TOURISTI town wine castles, at least until the case that 89 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:36,519 it's either known as the exorcism of Drossefernandez Gonsalves or the exorcism of Almansa, 90 00:06:36,759 --> 00:06:42,399 And so again, this is horrible. Eleven year old Rose Fernandez Gonsalves, 91 00:06:42,639 --> 00:06:46,879 called Rosie by her loved ones, was born on April twenty second, nineteen 92 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:53,000 seventy nine. She was an only child. Her parents were Rosa Gonsalves Frito 93 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:57,439 and Jesus Fernandez Pina. Oh. And also, I'm going to refer to 94 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:03,079 eleven year old Drosa as just because there's a lot of names in this case, 95 00:07:03,319 --> 00:07:09,079 and her mom is Rosa so Rosa Senior, Senora Rossa. She's gonna 96 00:07:09,079 --> 00:07:14,199 be Rosa. Okay, yes, eleven year old Rosa is Rosie Rosi for 97 00:07:14,279 --> 00:07:17,319 the rest of this episode. Yes, so Rosa. She was a well 98 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:24,199 known Kurandera in Almansa, and apparently Almansa itself the town is like very very 99 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:30,120 heavy into spiritual healers, Curandero's magic, you know, rukeria type things like 100 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,160 they're known for that. And Rosa was one of many Guranderas. So they 101 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:41,319 didn't get the memo from the physic. Oh the Spanish Inquisition, Yeah, 102 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,279 yeah, I guess they didn't get the memo from then. Apparently the Spanish 103 00:07:44,319 --> 00:07:47,839 Inquisition was fucking around everywhere else except Spain. I don't know it infazed them. 104 00:07:49,079 --> 00:07:51,800 Should be told. I don't know what the Spanish Inquisition was doing in 105 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:57,480 Spain, like if they had their own things going on there, clearly not 106 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,720 nothing there in that specif. I don't know about anywhere else. But right, 107 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,720 so, I'm sure you know this, but in many many cultures that 108 00:08:05,839 --> 00:08:11,680 do practice healing, spiritual healing, the healer is not supposed to take money. 109 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,040 Everything's supposed to be donations because it's not supposed to be about the money. 110 00:08:15,199 --> 00:08:16,480 Oh, actually, you didn't know that. Oh you didn't know that. 111 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,639 Yeah, yeah, it's a thing. There's a town in the Philippines, 112 00:08:20,839 --> 00:08:22,240 or actually not a town, a whole island in the philippin is called 113 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:28,279 Sikiyor Island, and the island is known for its witchcraft and they have like 114 00:08:28,319 --> 00:08:31,480 a yearly festival with a sorcerer. I mean, the proper word is not 115 00:08:31,559 --> 00:08:35,519 sorcerer. I think I heard about this, yeah, horror story. I 116 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,240 worked on an episode that's where I heard it from. Yes, yes, 117 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,159 and it's an excellent episode. I'm a little biased, but it is good 118 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,360 and that in that research, I learned that the whole town, like the 119 00:08:46,399 --> 00:08:50,799 healers, they don't take money. It's all donations. So yeah, it's 120 00:08:50,799 --> 00:08:54,559 a thing. Androsam she was no exception. She quote unquote was not in 121 00:08:54,639 --> 00:08:58,799 it for the money, but she was making so much money houseway through donation. 122 00:09:00,799 --> 00:09:05,000 Oh right, okay, donations, Yeah, donations. She was very 123 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,360 sought out for her Kuran derismo, like she was one of the most popular 124 00:09:09,399 --> 00:09:11,120 healers in this town. Sorry, this might be dumb of me to say 125 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:16,200 I didn't know there was gournandos in Spain because I thought they were hell Catholic, 126 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,519 So that's where my mind is. Well, that's the thing. To 127 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:26,519 me. Catholicism is very intertwined with spiritualism and kuran derismo. There's almost no 128 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:31,600 separating the two. But I thought the gudan deismo came from like indigenous traditions 129 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:37,200 and then it kind of like just melded here in like Mexico, Latin America, 130 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:41,000 but Spain itself. I just didn't think it would be like that because 131 00:09:41,159 --> 00:09:43,080 you know what I mean. No, I did think that too, but 132 00:09:43,279 --> 00:09:48,080 this this town is also like I mean, sorry, I'm like trailing or 133 00:09:48,279 --> 00:09:52,720 mingling my thought. Spain is very superstitious. That's where the grapes come from, 134 00:09:52,799 --> 00:09:56,279 like the twelve grapes at Yeah, that's true. Maybe it just so 135 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:01,279 it's always been a thing and I just didn't realize. Yeah, but I 136 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:05,399 also didn't know how much some towns believed in gurandrismo. Yeah as well, 137 00:10:05,519 --> 00:10:09,080 like what you were saying, Like I did believe that was only like a 138 00:10:09,159 --> 00:10:13,080 thing in Latin America. Yeah, but no, it's huge in Almansa. 139 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,679 And so Drosa claimed to not be in it for the money, but she 140 00:10:15,759 --> 00:10:18,120 was making a bunch of money doing this, so much that her husband, 141 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,720 who was a shoemaker, quit to help her because she just had so many 142 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,240 clients. You quit the shoemaking business, Yeah, he did, he did. 143 00:10:26,399 --> 00:10:31,320 And apparently she was trained by some other big known healer in this area 144 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,399 called Enrique el Vienna, and she was given the title Sister of the Light 145 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,159 and yeah, that name sounds a little cul tea, yeah it does. 146 00:10:41,799 --> 00:10:46,000 And their house was filled with people looking for her help every day. She 147 00:10:46,159 --> 00:10:50,039 truly believed that she had these powers and that these powers ran in the family. 148 00:10:50,159 --> 00:10:54,080 So she convinced her sister Anna to help with the business, to become 149 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,120 a healer with her, because she believed that, or it's believed at least 150 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,559 in what she learned or how she was try that curanderos that worked in pairs 151 00:11:01,639 --> 00:11:05,440 were stronger, and especially if they were like family. I mean that makes 152 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,159 sense. Yeah, yeah, because they also say, like alone, the 153 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,559 gift of like the supernatural scene and things like that, it runs in the 154 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:18,799 family. There's lines of brujas, right, so yeah, that makes sense. 155 00:11:18,919 --> 00:11:22,720 And also on top of her sister Anna, she also convinced her, 156 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:28,360 not convinced, but her neighbor Maria Achiles Rodriguez ESPINIYEP, she brought her onto 157 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,480 the business as well. They were very close. They alleged they might have 158 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:37,080 had like a romantic relationship as well. Ew that was a little secret. 159 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:43,200 Okay, okay, Miss Santa Garian right. Rosa's neighbor Maria, brought on 160 00:11:43,519 --> 00:11:48,080 her sister Mercedes to the business. So the four of them had their healing 161 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:52,759 group together, Okay, And I mean like everything was normal, you know, 162 00:11:52,039 --> 00:11:56,080 the business was good until it's always in it until dunt, dun, 163 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:00,960 dun. This is where you insert the inverted picture. And they were happy 164 00:12:01,159 --> 00:12:05,480 until they weren't the picture and then it either zooms in or out and then 165 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,320 their eyes turned red or black. Yeah. So, on September fifteenth, 166 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:16,440 nineteen ninety, Rosa and her sister went out for dinner with Maria and Mercedes. 167 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,799 While they were eating dinner, Rosa told the group that she wasn't feeling 168 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:24,440 good, and so the four headed back to Rosa's house. The events that 169 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:30,480 followed is what would result in the exorcism of eleven year old Rosie. Just 170 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,720 poor Rosie. What did she She didn't ask for this, she didn't know. 171 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:37,120 It's facking terrible. I don't know why I'm laughing. It's uncomfortable. 172 00:12:37,279 --> 00:12:43,440 So the Spanish news would refer to the following four days as la ortia satanika 173 00:12:43,639 --> 00:12:50,279 as an orgy, the satanic orgy ya okay, yeah, that's what they 174 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,600 called it. So the four women took hallucinogenic drugs or plants that it's not 175 00:12:54,799 --> 00:13:00,200 like confirmed what they took first, and then like Rosa and Maria who had 176 00:13:00,279 --> 00:13:05,600 the relationship, hooked up and they welcomed Anna and Mercedist to watch, okay. 177 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:11,039 And then the next morning, Drosa and Maria went to collect leaves from 178 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:15,720 a plant called bellennio. Do you know anything about this plant? Because I 179 00:13:15,759 --> 00:13:18,679 didn't, I had to look it up. No, okay, Well it's 180 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,399 a poisonous plant, okay, yes. In English, it's called henbane and 181 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,519 it's part of the night shade family. Okay, I've heard of night shade. 182 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,799 Yeah. Then you're like, oh, I don't want to mess with 183 00:13:28,919 --> 00:13:31,919 that. Yeah, and I don't think I've heard good things about night shade. 184 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,960 No, me neither. But this plant is native to Europe and the 185 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:43,879 physical and psychological reaction to henbane includes loss of muscular control, dilation of the 186 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:50,960 pupils, heart palpitations, hallucinations, sturillium and enlarge doses coma and death. 187 00:13:50,399 --> 00:13:54,240 So okay, yeah, not good. It also has medicinal purposes, like 188 00:13:54,399 --> 00:13:58,639 if you extract something from it, then you can use it as an analgesic. 189 00:13:58,799 --> 00:14:01,480 Oh okay, okay, yeah for pain, so it's not all bad. 190 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,159 But if you take it then it becomes a hallucinogenic drug that can also 191 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:09,320 have a whole lot of other symptoms. So that's what they went to go 192 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,080 look for. They came back to the house, and when they came back, 193 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,039 Anna, Rosa's sister, she was scared. She was afraid. She 194 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:22,600 didn't want to take ill I just realized, so she watched Anna watched her 195 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,200 sister. Hey, I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, I 196 00:14:26,279 --> 00:14:30,399 would have thrown up. Hey, Like at first I was like, hey, 197 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:35,159 whatever you do you but now it's incestuous. I mean it was already 198 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,360 incestrious, but I just realized it was incestuous. And so now I'm like 199 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,240 ready to throw up. Also, like that's disturbing. Yeah, yeah, 200 00:14:41,279 --> 00:14:50,200 because she had Anna and me cousin mer is. Anna is Rosa's sister, 201 00:14:50,679 --> 00:14:58,320 Yes, and then Maria is Rosa's neighbor slash lover and Mercedes is Maria's sister, 202 00:15:01,039 --> 00:15:03,159 so each of them are sisters. There's oh no, no, no, 203 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:09,440 no, yes, yeah yeah, so yeah, already disturbing, and 204 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,399 it just gets that's like the lightest thing here. So Anna was afraid. 205 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,000 She went home, and then at some point everyone went home. Then on 206 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:22,799 September sixteenth, nineteen ninety, the next day, Drosa calls her neighbor Maria, 207 00:15:22,279 --> 00:15:26,679 asking her to come over. So Madia grabbed her kids and went over, 208 00:15:26,879 --> 00:15:30,879 and when she got there, Drosa told Maria that the spirit of Maria's 209 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:35,639 evil husband, Martine, was possessing her and trying to hurt her, hurting 210 00:15:35,919 --> 00:15:39,559 Maria. No, Drossa, it's confusing. I was confused. Okay, 211 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,879 yeah, So the spirit of Maria's evil husband was trying to hurt Maria, 212 00:15:45,159 --> 00:15:48,879 yes, yes, yes, And so Drosa needed to perform in exorcism on 213 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:54,399 her because she was being possessed, and then somehow also needed to perform this 214 00:15:54,559 --> 00:16:00,799 exorcism on Maria's children naked. I mean that a reasonable conclusion you made, 215 00:16:02,919 --> 00:16:07,919 yeah, I think so. So this exorcism grew more and more violent and 216 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,720 disturbing. At some point, Drosa put her fingers down Maria's children's mouths to 217 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,480 make them vomit, and it was so much it was to the point that 218 00:16:15,559 --> 00:16:19,600 they were bleeding and vomiting. Oh my god, that's how aggressive. It 219 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:26,559 was terrible, and she would have continued this if it wasn't for Maria's evil 220 00:16:26,679 --> 00:16:29,279 husband, Matty. I don't actually know if he was evil, I doubt 221 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:33,799 it. But if it wasn't for her husband, who barged in demanding for 222 00:16:34,159 --> 00:16:37,480 Maria and the kids to come home. So he took the kids from Drosa, 223 00:16:37,639 --> 00:16:42,000 I mean that sounds controlling. I'm just kidding. Hey, if you 224 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,840 don't let your kids participate in a terrible exorcism, it's a little controlling. 225 00:16:47,759 --> 00:16:52,320 So he demanded that Maria also come home, but Maria refused, so he 226 00:16:52,399 --> 00:16:55,519 grabbed the kids and left. Good. Yeah, yeah, at least he 227 00:16:55,879 --> 00:16:59,159 saved his his children. Yeah, who knows what would have happened to them 228 00:16:59,159 --> 00:17:02,080 if she kept going no one had put a stop to it. I believe 229 00:17:02,159 --> 00:17:04,079 that they would have been killed, honestly. Yeah. So, a little 230 00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:08,240 bit later, after he leaves with the kids and Rossan Maria still in Rosa's 231 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,559 house. Mercedis, Maria's sister, arrives at the house, she finds Maria 232 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:17,519 and Rosa in bed together. I was already I was going to say bed 233 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,680 before you said it, but I didn't stay it in time. Okay, 234 00:17:21,799 --> 00:17:23,160 well, yeah, you would have guessed, right. And they told her 235 00:17:23,279 --> 00:17:27,599 that they were Jesus and Law and Maria. Okay, so they were all 236 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:33,240 playing, but to the delusional level. Yeah yeah, yeah yes. And 237 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:40,039 then Hesus, Rosa's husband, and Rossi's father. He also up at some 238 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:45,880 point got home and came across also like a strange sight them in bed. 239 00:17:45,079 --> 00:17:48,759 He saw them, No, no, he saw Rosa performing in exorcism on 240 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,400 Maria, and he was worried about what he saw. It must have looked 241 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,960 horrendous. I don't know. They looked like they were in bad shape, 242 00:17:56,519 --> 00:18:00,720 is what he said. And he called Anna, then his own sister Hosepha 243 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:06,160 to come over and help. So when Anna and Hosepha arrived, they watched 244 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:12,480 as Maria screamed as Rosa performed the exorcism. These rituals that were part of 245 00:18:12,559 --> 00:18:15,880 the exorcism, which is not I mean, they're they're making it up, 246 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,079 not like official obviously, Okay. I was wondering, like where are they 247 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:25,119 getting their like exorcism rules? From like guidelines, policies and procedures, like 248 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,079 where's that coming from? Right? They come from the from the Catholic Church? 249 00:18:29,599 --> 00:18:32,400 Were they even Catholic? Am I just assuming they're Catholic because they're from 250 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,240 Spain? Yeah? Yeah, I don't. It never says, but I 251 00:18:34,279 --> 00:18:37,160 would. I would assume that too, or I would have. So these 252 00:18:37,279 --> 00:18:42,440 rituals involve sticky needles in voodoo dolls, throwing things around the room, throwing 253 00:18:42,519 --> 00:18:48,079 books, breaking things, and pin on the floor. Okay the fuck? 254 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:55,000 Yeah, yeah, and more of this continued on to the seventeenth. So 255 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:59,319 it's been what two days of this? It started on the yeah, right, 256 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,160 three, it's a total of three days, okay, because one was 257 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,839 an orgy, not an exorcism, yes, yes, okay, sixteen seventeen 258 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,319 eighteen, So yeah, I started on the sixteenth. Okay, So now 259 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:14,759 it's midnight on the eighteenth, right, And at this point, dross and 260 00:19:14,839 --> 00:19:19,119 Maria had locked themselves in a room, leaving Drossa's husband to take care of 261 00:19:19,799 --> 00:19:25,599 Rosie in the house. And so at midnight on the eighteenth, Mercedis returned. 262 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,640 She had apparently got home at some point, and she came back to 263 00:19:27,839 --> 00:19:33,519 continue the so called exorcism. So Rosa's husband then decided to check on them, 264 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,599 and he found them naked and covered in vomit and urine. What the 265 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:45,839 fuck? Ude? Oh man? And how did he not smell that before? 266 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,599 Maybe that's why he checked on them. I don't know. I couldn't 267 00:19:48,599 --> 00:19:51,880 say either, but like that's just so disturbing. I don't know, I 268 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:56,119 don't know, extremely disturbing. Yes, And when he opened the doors to 269 00:19:56,279 --> 00:19:59,799 check on them, the so at this point, at this point, it 270 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:03,720 is just Mercedes, Maria and Rosa. Okay, and me can remind me 271 00:20:03,759 --> 00:20:07,079 who merceaid? This is again, mer this is Maria's sister, okay, 272 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:11,359 okay, okay, okay. So that then when he opened the door to 273 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:15,079 check on them, they started hitting him, and so he closed the door 274 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,480 again, what the fuck? Okay? And then Maria got her period she 275 00:20:18,519 --> 00:20:25,079 started bleeding, and so Drosa interpreted this as a sign of demonic possession, 276 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,319 and she began hitting and kicking Maria, and then Maria, probably in an 277 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:33,160 attempt to save herself, said that she wasn't possessed anymore and that this evil 278 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:38,839 spirit was actually now possessing Rosie. Oh my god. Yeah. So then 279 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,440 Rosa orders Mercedes and Maria to bring Rosie to her, and they do, 280 00:20:44,839 --> 00:20:48,240 and I don't know where her father was, Okay, I was about to 281 00:20:48,319 --> 00:20:52,720 ask, because if he saw how fucked up they were, why would he 282 00:20:52,799 --> 00:20:56,359 allow them to take her? That's just wild. Yeah, maybe he wasn't 283 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,000 there, but where would he be if his wife was acting like that? 284 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,160 Like or he just let them take her? Yeah, that too, Yeah, 285 00:21:03,559 --> 00:21:06,839 which I think is what happened, honestly. So yeah, they take 286 00:21:06,839 --> 00:21:11,559 her into the room and then all three of them begin to beat Rosie. 287 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,799 What the fuck? And this this is the worst part of the episode, 288 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,240 so probably if you don't want to hear the details of how terrible this goes, 289 00:21:19,599 --> 00:21:23,960 skip like maybe five minutes or so. So they start beating Rosie, 290 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:29,279 all three of them, in order to expel the demon Rosa's husband. Here's 291 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,079 the screaming and crying, and now he barges in again. I don't know 292 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,039 where he was before. Maybe he was in the bathroom, I don't know, 293 00:21:36,519 --> 00:21:38,000 I don't know. Yeah, when he opened the door, then the 294 00:21:38,039 --> 00:21:42,480 three women begin to beat him, push him out of the room, and 295 00:21:42,599 --> 00:21:45,079 lock the door. I just feel like he could have fought harder. I 296 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,240 don't know. But I've refused to believe that he couldn't just punch them, 297 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:55,480 Like, come on, I don't think I don't think they could overpower him, 298 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,119 But I don't know what they look like. I don't know. Yeah, 299 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,359 we're presuming here they could have overpowered him, you know, I mean 300 00:22:00,519 --> 00:22:03,720 I guess they did. They must have. They they must have, right, 301 00:22:04,039 --> 00:22:07,839 Yeah, but like like Maria's husband went over there and took his three 302 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:14,160 children, but they weren't in such a frenzied state. Yeah, so I 303 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,039 don't know, he could have been scared whatever. I don't know. They 304 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,160 overpowered him, let's just say that, and locked him out. Drosa then 305 00:22:21,279 --> 00:22:26,000 claimed that Rosie was pregnant with the Devil's child. Are you serious? M 306 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:32,359 hm? And so then Marianne Mercedes held Rosie down while Drosa put her hand 307 00:22:32,759 --> 00:22:36,839 in her daughter to try and pull out the fetus. What the fuck is 308 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:41,279 wrong with these people? I'm not going to go into detail at any point. 309 00:22:41,599 --> 00:22:47,960 You could have just not what the fuck? It's it's horrifying, it 310 00:22:48,039 --> 00:22:55,599 it really is. So Drosa pulls out Rosie's uterus and intestines. You could 311 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,640 do that. Yeah, it happened. Oh my god, it happened. 312 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,960 Yeah, okay, and where was the dad because obviously that would have been 313 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:10,039 a reaction so strong that anybody could hear, extremely painful. Yeah, and 314 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,079 you would have known it was from pain and you would have had to step 315 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,720 in, Like where was he? Right, I'm luderine, I don't know. 316 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:22,599 So he after this happens, he broke down the door and Anna was 317 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,759 with him. At this point, they called emergency services. I don't know 318 00:23:26,799 --> 00:23:30,720 what the number is for NAEM one one. Police and an ambulance they called, 319 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,519 and the screams coming from the house were so loud neighbors could hear it. 320 00:23:33,799 --> 00:23:37,119 I just feel like at any point, even neighbors could have been like, 321 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,759 what the fuck is going on? Let's all band together, even the 322 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:45,839 first time when he had tried to step in that first time, Like, 323 00:23:47,319 --> 00:23:48,839 yeah, if he stepped in because he heard the screams, yeah, that 324 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,720 means like neighbors probably heard it also. Yeah, so before police and ambulance 325 00:23:53,799 --> 00:23:57,759 could arrive, when Anna and his who's barged in, the three women like 326 00:23:59,039 --> 00:24:02,559 looked up and so, oh, we can revive little Rosie, but we 327 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:07,480 need Anna's eyes. So then they like started attacking Anna. This just gets 328 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:12,759 worse. So right now, so Rosie is hurt whatever, probably just laying 329 00:24:12,839 --> 00:24:17,119 there right uh huh. So then they're like, we can revive her with 330 00:24:17,319 --> 00:24:21,119 Anna's eyes. And then the only saying other sane person here is the dad, 331 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:26,960 yes, who couldn't overpower them in the beginning to help Rosie his daughter? 332 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:32,200 Yeah, yeah, okay, yikes, I am already feeling bad for 333 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:37,440 Anna's eyes. It's terrible. So they, you know, jump on her, 334 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,039 start like beating her, start trying to clowd her eyes. But she 335 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,039 manages to escape somehow. I don't know. Okay, if she could escape, 336 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,759 why couldn't his suits overpower them earlier? I don't know. Again, 337 00:24:49,039 --> 00:24:52,240 it doesn't make sense to me. I don't know. I don't know. 338 00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:56,920 Yeah, I don't know. By then, ambulance arrived and police Rosie was 339 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:02,559 no longer alive. Oh. By the time dambulance arrived Rosa Maria Mercedes and 340 00:25:02,799 --> 00:25:07,240 Hesusannana. They were all arrested at the same time, but charges towards Anna 341 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,559 and Hessu's were dropped pretty quickly. The autopsy revealed that Rosie, of course, 342 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,519 had never been pregnant, dull because you know how she said she was 343 00:25:15,559 --> 00:25:19,759 pregnant with Yeah, she said she was pregnant with the Satan's child, right, 344 00:25:21,839 --> 00:25:26,200 and that when Rosa pulled Rosie's intestines out, it caused her to go 345 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:33,599 into hypovolemic shock and that is how she died. That's what the cause of 346 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,960 death was. And it was revealed that she only had her liver and stomach 347 00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:41,400 left. My god, I guess Rosa had pulled everything else out. What 348 00:25:41,559 --> 00:25:48,039 the fuck? Yeah, it's it's truly disturbing. And so hesusan Anna served 349 00:25:48,079 --> 00:25:52,039 as witnesses in the trial against Rosa, Maria, and Mercedes. Their trial 350 00:25:52,279 --> 00:25:56,880 was held on January twenty second, nineteen ninety two. So two years later, 351 00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:02,720 the three women were acquitted on the grounds of insanity. Okay, I 352 00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:07,359 could see that. I truly believe they were not in the in the they 353 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,559 didn't know what they were doing, I don't think. Yeah, I think 354 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,680 just from the sound of it, it was just a complete state of delusion 355 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:21,920 and you know what else because that was so violent, But uh, a 356 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,319 complete acquittal. And I don't know what they were doing between those two years. 357 00:26:25,559 --> 00:26:30,200 I mean, they need help. Yeah, yeah, they were apparently 358 00:26:30,279 --> 00:26:33,880 at a psychiatric hospital, it seems, okay, or something like that, 359 00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:38,920 like in some type of facility. They were diagnosed with acute psychotic state with 360 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:45,079 mental derangement and were sent to a psychiatric facility a little bit longer. So 361 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,039 they were acquitted, but they were still sent to Okay, back to the 362 00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:52,799 facility in said ruling. So I'm gonna read the ruling, Okay, So 363 00:26:52,079 --> 00:26:59,359 instead ruling, the defendants Rosa Gonsalves Frito were acquitted of the crime of patricide 364 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,319 and injuries. Maria Los Angeles Rorie S Espinia was acquitted of the crime of 365 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,079 murder and injuries, as the court understands that in both defendants there is a 366 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:11,680 complete defense of criminal responsibility for mental insanity. As for the third defendant, 367 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:18,200 Maria Mercedes Rodriguez Espinia, she's acquitted of the crime of murder as her direct 368 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,799 participation has not been proven in the facts. She's also acquitted of the crime 369 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,200 of injuries due to the defense of temporary mental disorder. So that was like 370 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,440 a really fancy way of saying what I said. Yeah, yeah, I 371 00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:32,920 just wanted to sound fancy for a little bit, like a lawyer, you 372 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,480 know, or like a judge or like a jury member roup because they have 373 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:41,200 like the lead jury person read the charges, so the foreman an urban jury. 374 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,839 I skipped it once and I thought I was time to jail. Yeah, 375 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,799 this is when I didn't know I had ADHD and I forgot to go. 376 00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:53,400 That should have been aside. Yeah. So all three women were released 377 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,119 after a few years of being at the psychiatric hospital. I couldn't find exactly 378 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:03,960 how long. Maria moved to Valencia after her release, and Mercedes moved to 379 00:28:04,279 --> 00:28:08,240 Vayado lead ba yad lead. Yes, I never know if I'm saying that 380 00:28:08,319 --> 00:28:11,519 city right city in Spain. But Rosa, I don't know where she moved 381 00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:15,920 to. But she never returned to Almanza. Her neighbors said that they would 382 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:21,279 kill her if they saw her. Oh my god, I don't know why 383 00:28:21,279 --> 00:28:23,680 I'm laughing. It's terrible. It's terrible. Yeah, it's not terrible. 384 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:30,839 And she did do some interviews after her release with some Spanish channels, and 385 00:28:32,079 --> 00:28:36,200 there was one interview I watched of hers where she claims she has already paid 386 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:41,160 for what she did through her sentence, she has already served her time at 387 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,480 the psychiatric facility, and that she just wishes to be left alone and in 388 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,960 peace. That every three or four years, there's a new show that comes 389 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,799 out to cover what happened that day, what she did, and that she 390 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,880 has to relive that every time it happens, and she understands that this is 391 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,960 how she has to live now. But it's not fair. She doesn't know 392 00:29:00,119 --> 00:29:03,680 what happened, why she did any of it. She doesn't understand, and 393 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:10,000 maybe that's her punishment and she regrets what she did. Those are that's what 394 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,960 her what she said, and I mean, like, what can you what 395 00:29:14,039 --> 00:29:18,319 can you do? Can keep her keep them in the siiatric facility forever? 396 00:29:18,319 --> 00:29:22,039 I mean, she's right, she did do she did pay for her crimes. 397 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:27,400 She spent her time in the psychiatric constitution and if it was true insanity, 398 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:32,039 which she was acquitted for that, so legally it's true. She doesn't 399 00:29:32,079 --> 00:29:36,319 know. So yeah, yeah, when when you look at comments on YouTube 400 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,839 videos covering this or news articles, there's like, oh, she should have 401 00:29:38,839 --> 00:29:42,480 gotten the death sentence, she should be killed, she shouldn't be alive anymore. 402 00:29:44,759 --> 00:29:48,000 But like, none of these women had an abusive history by all cowns. 403 00:29:48,119 --> 00:29:53,279 They love their children. Yeah, and on this day they happened to 404 00:29:53,839 --> 00:29:57,319 take a bunch of hallucingenic drugs. I don't know why, because there was 405 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:03,519 even no stories of them having done this before, except they use these plants 406 00:30:03,559 --> 00:30:07,400 and things like that in their healing services. Yeah, but there was no 407 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,799 history of them whatsoever acting like this, like truly to me as I mean 408 00:30:12,319 --> 00:30:18,039 bad as it sounds like, I don't she already has to live in hell 409 00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:21,240 knowing what she did, what she did, and that she no longer has 410 00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:25,039 her daughter or her husband, yeah, or her husband, yeah, because 411 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,400 who's gonna stay with I mean, like you have to be so strong to 412 00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:33,079 stay with someone after that, and I would not who. I don't think 413 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,079 anyone would honestly, No, I don't know who. Yeah, yeah, 414 00:30:37,519 --> 00:30:41,039 And so I don't know, like what else is there left to do? 415 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,240 You can't just throw go around killing people. And yeah, honestly, I 416 00:30:45,359 --> 00:30:49,480 think that they did have true, true temporary insanity because none of them had 417 00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:52,640 like a history. Yeah, I mean, nothing else really explains it. 418 00:30:53,039 --> 00:30:56,759 I mean they were acquitted. Yeah, it's just it's just a horrible, 419 00:30:56,799 --> 00:31:00,799 horrible thing where the poor little Rose. Yeah, it's you know, the 420 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,720 real true victim here, and these women have to live with what they did, 421 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,279 and like, I don't know what else there is to do, because 422 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,799 I don't think killing them is fair either. No, And it doesn't take 423 00:31:12,839 --> 00:31:18,880 away it doesn't bring Rosie back, It doesn't take anyone's pain away. Yeah, 424 00:31:18,279 --> 00:31:22,519 the death sentence in general, I don't know most people. A lot 425 00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:25,359 of people are against it, A lot of people are for it, yeah, 426 00:31:25,559 --> 00:31:29,640 but most places don't have it. Yeah, and there's a reason. 427 00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:33,799 Yeah. And I mean the case it shook the town like to its core. 428 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,880 Yeah, it's I mean it's so violent, and newspapers release headlines like 429 00:31:40,119 --> 00:31:44,440 girl killed in Satanic ritual. But mmmm, this girl was killed in a 430 00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:48,960 religious ritual that was not real. I mean it's an exorcism. That's not 431 00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:52,240 a Satanic ritual, right, it's like the opposite of that. No, 432 00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:56,599 it's a satanic in the sense that they're driving Satan out. Yeah. I 433 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,200 mean, it's just it's just wild to think what drive someone to that. 434 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,759 I mean, we kind of said it was insanity, but like how and 435 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,559 why? And I guess we don't have answers for that. Yeah. I 436 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,839 was gonna say the worst thing is that we will never have answers because they 437 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,400 don't even know because it was temporary insanity, Like, yeah, all they 438 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,440 can do is like blame the drugs. But yeah, like it's just horrible. 439 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,039 It's horrible. I didn't even go like if you want to go into 440 00:32:22,359 --> 00:32:25,880 the detail of how this poor girl like truly died. Because I didn't go 441 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,880 into details, I almost threw up. I don't see why you would want 442 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,359 to do that. Yeah, no, but just look, you can just 443 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:39,000 look it up by what the name exorcism of Mansa or the extorcism of Roervice, 444 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:44,319 and you can see how it all, like how her intestines and everything 445 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,599 was pulled out. It's like truly gruesome. But yeah, it's just like 446 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:52,119 in the end, nobody, nobody, there's no justice except they served their 447 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,480 time. But still it doesn't I don't know, it just feels it just 448 00:32:55,559 --> 00:32:59,200 feels little. I mean, but what would justice look like? No, 449 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:00,599 yeah, that's what I was gonna say again because I already said it, 450 00:33:00,759 --> 00:33:04,799 like they served their time. Yeah, and so yeah, I'm not gonna 451 00:33:04,839 --> 00:33:07,559 keep repeating the same thing. But yeah, it's just it's just horrible that 452 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:12,079 the things that happened in the name of exorcisms really or in the name of 453 00:33:12,519 --> 00:33:16,440 religion. Oh yeah, yeah, truly horrible. Yeah, that was horrible. 454 00:33:16,519 --> 00:33:21,559 We need a pellet cleanser. This this brings us to the end of 455 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,160 the episode, and I'm sorry to put everyone through that. Yeah, that 456 00:33:24,319 --> 00:33:29,079 was disturbing. It's a truly disturbing case. But any what, I expect 457 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,759 our most, our worst cases to come out of Spain. I was gonna 458 00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:35,559 say it wasn't there the last time you talked about in extorcism. Wasn't there 459 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,680 one in Spain? Also? Yeah, but it wasn't as bad as this. 460 00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:42,759 It was. Okay, this is yeah, this is bad. What 461 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,720 that movie Veronica is based on. That's what we covered last time we did 462 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,640 something out of Spain. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah this 463 00:33:49,799 --> 00:33:53,240 one. Oh I'm traumatized. Mm hmmm same. Maybe I'll look for a 464 00:33:53,359 --> 00:33:58,519 friendlier not friendlier, but like a nicer ghost story next episode. It's been 465 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,400 it's been terrible. Okay, how their case. I'm sorry. Everyone. 466 00:34:05,359 --> 00:34:07,320 Welcome to our Hunted break. 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Oh you're back to Supernatural? 484 00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:44,440 Yeah, that's what I put on when it's just me at the house and 485 00:35:44,519 --> 00:35:47,800 I'm not like doing anything. And then I've been watching Married he for site. 486 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:52,440 I think season sixteen with my husband. Nice. Nice. I actually 487 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,679 do have a speaky recommendation today. Ooh you know me. You know I 488 00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:00,880 love zombies, and it takes me a while to find like a zombie movie 489 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,360 that I'm entertained by. Usually I just rewatch all of Us Are Dead or 490 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,360 doat of the Dead, or yeah, all of Us are Dead is so 491 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,000 good. I thought there was gonna be a season two. Yeah, what 492 00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:13,320 happened with that? I thought there was gonna be a season two? Also, 493 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,639 Yeah, very upsetting that it's not out there. Yeah. And then 494 00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:17,719 they were like, we're gonna make an American version, and I'm like, 495 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:22,079 no, just give me season two of the same thing. I don't want 496 00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:24,440 an American version. It won't be as good. Probably, yeah, no, 497 00:36:24,639 --> 00:36:28,760 probably not. But I found a movie. It's called Valley of the 498 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,239 Dead. It's on Netflix. It's from Spain. Oh, speaking of Spain. 499 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,079 Yeah, speaking of Spain. Yes, Valley of the Dead. It's 500 00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:44,000 set during World War Two and there's the you know Spain was fast fastest during 501 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:49,280 Yes, World War two. And so it's two soldiers from the Fastest like 502 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,400 Army, Fastest Spain Army met up with the anarchists and they have to unite 503 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:58,360 forces to fight the zombies. Wow, it's good. The acting is, 504 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,000 because that's the other issue with a lot of bombie movies that are just like 505 00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:05,000 random that I find the acting is horrendous because they're like B movies or C 506 00:37:05,199 --> 00:37:08,480 movies whatever they call them exactly. But this one the acting good. It 507 00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:12,679 has little fuddy moments, but it also has you know, creepy See. 508 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,880 That's what I like scary movies that the people don't take themselves too seriously because 509 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,440 in real life, yes you're scared, but sometimes you can't help but laugh 510 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,639 at those situations that you're finding yourself in. Yeah, there's one scene where 511 00:37:22,679 --> 00:37:27,400 they're like they're walking, there's zombies ahead of them. They're like in one 512 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,679 spot trying to figure out what they do. And then two of the guys, 513 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,639 because they're guys, like their soldiers, their men, they start arguing 514 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:37,119 and one of the guys is like something about how he I don't know, 515 00:37:37,199 --> 00:37:38,760 you know, how people have a comeback with it's like, oh, yeah, 516 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,719 well I fucked your mom. Yeah, but the guy says, well, 517 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,400 I fucked your dad, and then the other guy's like, are you 518 00:37:45,519 --> 00:37:51,119 gay? And so yeah, little more like people have like real human life 519 00:37:51,159 --> 00:37:55,639 moments like that in the middle of a zombie apucalypse, right, So yeah, 520 00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:00,760 and good zombie kills because there's those are always fun too, And yeah, 521 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,400 I mean it's in Spanish, so if you don't speak Spanish, you 522 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,639 could do it with subtitles. But yeah, I thought it was fun. 523 00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:12,079 I like it better because I also a while ago I ran across a movie 524 00:38:12,679 --> 00:38:20,440 set during the Mexican Revolution that these revolutionaries stumble upon like an acienda and there's 525 00:38:20,519 --> 00:38:25,159 these sisters living in this sciena and then the reason that there are still standing 526 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:30,920 is because they have like their own herd of zombies. Oh they can resiscitate. 527 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,960 In that movie, it took a while to get good, but I 528 00:38:34,119 --> 00:38:37,400 was like, I'm gonna give this a real shot because it's a Mexican movie 529 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:42,239 and in zombies, and I mean I like both of those things, and 530 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,480 so that one. At first, I was like, oh, when is 531 00:38:44,519 --> 00:38:46,000 this going to start? But when it starts, it starts, you know, 532 00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:50,159 Oh, okay, something stayed too long. I don't like that either. 533 00:38:50,639 --> 00:38:52,039 Yeah, it took too long, but this one value is dead. 534 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:57,079 No, it was good from the beginning, so yeah, I recommend it. 535 00:38:57,199 --> 00:38:59,239 It was good. I'm gonna check that out. You should, you 536 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,960 should, but yeah, I guess Now this does bring us to the end 537 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:07,920 of the episode. Yeah, our new book club. We still have to 538 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:12,920 record the episode because I'm giving people a chance to reply with their answers if 539 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,239 they want to, so we'll probably record that next weekend at the time recording, 540 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:21,239 But the next book club book will be The Vampires of Enorte, which 541 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,159 I'm so excited for. I'm excited. Yeah, I've read only good things 542 00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:28,719 about it, I mean, but I also ignore a lot of bad reviews. 543 00:39:29,079 --> 00:39:31,280 I haven't heard anything about it. Actually, I haven't seen people put 544 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:36,639 like post reviews or anything. I add things on too good Reads, like 545 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,280 want to read or read, so that's when I come across like ratings and 546 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,280 stuff. But like I said, I ignore bad reviews. Anyway, I'm 547 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,280 sure I'm gonna like it. Like I'm positive I accidentally started not accidentally, 548 00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:52,519 I started reading it before I had finished the other one. Oh I forgot 549 00:39:52,559 --> 00:39:55,039 you had it. I got to chapter two. But like things start happening 550 00:39:57,199 --> 00:40:00,559 by the end of chapter one, like, okay, okay, I need 551 00:40:00,639 --> 00:40:04,559 to order it. I think I was designed between the audiobook and the physical 552 00:40:04,599 --> 00:40:08,320 book because the last one, and I listened to the audiobook first and then 553 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:13,239 I read it, and I like both. So but I can't just keep 554 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,360 buying both. I know, I think the same thing because I like to 555 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:20,000 have the physical one to go back for when I write out the plot. 556 00:40:20,639 --> 00:40:22,800 But then I don't want to buy both, you know, like you just 557 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:28,199 said, yeah, it's a struggle. No, the audiobook is just as 558 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,480 good as the first one. It seems they have like two different like voice 559 00:40:31,519 --> 00:40:37,039 actors just like so it's like similar where it's like from two a different point, 560 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,199 like a guy and a girl. Oh yeah, I think so that's 561 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,440 what it seemed like. I'm pretty sure. I don't. I could be 562 00:40:42,599 --> 00:40:45,119 remembered remembering wrong, but I'm almost certain. I mean, we'll find out, 563 00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:47,440 because we're going to start reading it. But also don't quote me, 564 00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:52,559 but also we'll find out. Yes, so yeah, again that was Vampires 565 00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:54,320 of It Northen. And I'll also send an email out to let people know. 566 00:40:54,559 --> 00:40:59,679 I'm also posting the book club questions and like what book we're reading? 567 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:04,199 Next on Patreon, in the free version so that everyone can look at it, 568 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,280 because you can join Patreon as a free member, and then you only 569 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,719 have access to things that I make free, and I'm making the book clubs 570 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:15,039 a free So you can either subscribe to the book club newsletter on subsec, 571 00:41:15,119 --> 00:41:16,559 which the link is in the show notes, or you can do it through 572 00:41:16,599 --> 00:41:20,800 Patreon, whatever's easier, because you can join Patreon as a free member, 573 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,960 and then while you're there, maybe you change your mind, maybe you join, 574 00:41:23,159 --> 00:41:28,239 maybe you upgrade to the three dollars tier or the eight dollar tier where 575 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,559 you get bonus stories or a fancy keychain in the eight dollar tier. That 576 00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:35,119 reminds me actually, speaking of Patreon. We'll see how feasible this is because 577 00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:37,360 you know time and we have issue scheduling. But i do want to start 578 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:43,000 doing a series on Patreon where I share paranormal news with Carmen. So I've 579 00:41:43,039 --> 00:41:46,079 already found some very good headlines, So that's if you want that. And 580 00:41:46,159 --> 00:41:51,960 then Creepy read stories that we read and react to join the Patreon and now 581 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,960 now this is the end. Do you have anything to plug Carmen. Yeah, 582 00:41:54,199 --> 00:42:00,519 So if you like learning about Latin American history topics that you knew nothing 583 00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:02,599 about, maybe had heard about here and there, and just would like to 584 00:42:02,679 --> 00:42:08,960 learn more about Latin American history topics about like civil wars, stories of resistance, 585 00:42:10,039 --> 00:42:15,239 power, community, sometimes bad stuff like racism, dictatorships, corruption, 586 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:21,039 US intervention, regime change, that kind of stuff. Then yeah, Chikaisoda 587 00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:27,239 is unknown. And then we also have Novedakaito where we're we're watching we recap 588 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,079 the episodes and we talked shit along the way, and then we introduced a 589 00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:36,840 new segment with that chronically online and we it's just talking about internet cheese man. 590 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,599 It's going to become its own podcast once we finished watching TESA, and 591 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,800 we just look forward to that because we love talking shit. Yes, yes, 592 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:50,400 we'd love cheesement and internet trends. So yeah, thank you again Carmen 593 00:42:50,519 --> 00:42:55,039 for joining me today and everyone else I don't know. Don't take that plant 594 00:42:55,199 --> 00:43:00,760 we mentioned in the episode and go perform exorcisms. Don't do that. If 595 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,400 you think someone's possessed, they're not. Just end it right there, send 596 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,719 them to a doctor. Just get those thoughts out of your head because it's 597 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,360 not true except for our listener story, because that was a demon for sure. 598 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:15,039 Not no there is some listener stories we received that I'm like, Okay, 599 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:20,679 I know I've been skeptical of possessions, but that sounds like a possession. 600 00:43:21,159 --> 00:43:24,760 Send them to the Catholic priests asap. Yeah, yeah, just don't 601 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:29,599 do it yourself is what we're saying. I guess. Basically, no DIY 602 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:35,880 extorcisms. Thank you. That's it, No dey extorcisms. Stay spooky, 603 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:47,320 We'll catch everyone next time and bye. Spooky Tales is hosted by Christina and 604 00:43:47,559 --> 00:43:53,079 MJ, produced and edited by Christina. Everything is written and researched by Christina 605 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:58,559 MJ and with the help of Don Shout Out Don. 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