Hi everyone, This is Christina and Carmen, and this is another episode of
a Spooky Tells, the podcast for all things a spooky and terrible stories.
I just make you a little bit depressed. That's what I have today.
Oh great, another cult. No, it's another cult. It's an exorcism.
Oh okay, those are great. Also, this one not so much.
It's terrible. I'll give the appropriate trigger warnies after our listeners story.
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next one, all right, So our listener story, are you ready to
pressed to it? Yeah? I am good afternoon from Jnver, Colorado.
My name is chat up that If and I love your guys this show it's
so relatable. Let me start off with my story. As almost every Mexican
family we would go every winter Caravani to Mexico be officed and one house,
so maybe up to four family in one household, so that meant a family
to a room. So I was there in a room with my dad,
my stepmom, and my two younger siblings, a brother and a sister.
With Christmas time, everybody drinking partying. So I went to bed. But
in the night, which I thought was a night, I felt something jump
on the bed and it started choking me. But when I opened my eyes
it was my sister, but he had like a cheating face. I didn't
really move when I didn't manage to that kind of like kissed her with my
foot and she went flying on the floor. So when that happened, all
the lights turned on and I thought it woke up. Maybe I wasn't sleeping.
But when my pet mon chest. It was my little sister, and
she was crying on the floor saying that I had crushed her off the bed.
I know, so scary and since that point, believe me, I
have not ever sat with my sister or wanted to be alone with her in
a room. And this was over It's funny. Uh wow, oh my
god, I don't I don't know, like a demon like for bow,
it could have been that in her own like sleeperhouse's nightmare. She registered her
sister. But why was she on top of her? Yeah, that's the
weird part, because her sister says she was climbing into bed like crying.
She kicked me. I was just climbing into bed. But then it's like,
why was she on top of you choking you? Yeah, with a
demon face. That's that's concerning exactly. Yeah, Like it sounds like,
I mean, I guess if she was sleeping next to her, and then
her dream she thought she was on top of her, so then she kicked
her. She could still kick her out of bed she's next to her.
Yeah, yeah, still terrifying. I don't blame you, Chata for not
wanting to be with her sister, even twenty two years later same same like,
how do you even Oh, that's that's scary. It's you know,
it would have been less scary if the sister just woke up and she hadn't
fallen off the bed, like if she was just like hare, are you
okay? But it's more terrifying that she kicked a demon like off of her
and then her sister was unlike Flory crying like that's scary. I wonder if
she like asked her like, hey, what were you doing? That's a
good question. Let us know if you've ever asked her like, what were
you doing? What if she really was like on top of her choking her,
yeah, because I mean there's a reason she doesn't feel still now comfortable
with her Yeah, she's a demon. Both things would be terrifying. Yeah,
man, speaking of demons. Today we are we are talking about a
possession this and I will give a trigger warning for child abuse, child sexual
abuse, and murder. Hm. Wow great. Yeah, I'm sorry,
Carmen, but you listener, you can skip this if you want. Carmen
can't. So, so this is the Exorcism of Rosa Fernandez Gonsalves. Oh,
okay, and I know we focus on Latin America. But you know
what, when it's convenient to me, I also claim the term Hispanic and
so so she's from Spain. Yes, yes, this case is from Spain.
So today we're Hispanic. Don't be her Panic, be Hispanic. I
forgot, it doesn't matter. I might have said it wrong, but that's
what we are today. We are Hispanic. This is a truly tragic case.
You know, exorcism movies and like stories, fictional stories or like stories
that don't end in murder that have to do with exorcisms I think are super
scary and entertaining, but like sadly, in the real world, in real
life, most exorcisms that take place end up in murder. M hmm.
They're not as fun. Yeah, it's like murder, murder justified by religion.
M hmm. So yeah, that's what this is. This takes place
during the nineteen hundreds in Almanza, Spain. This town it's known for it's
a wine. It's in Spain's wine region. I guess that's a thing.
Okay, okay, I love me some wine. Maybe I'll make it to
it. Spania. Yeah, I thought it was almost a Spania. I
don't know how to do a Spanish accident. I'm sorry. I was gonna
keep going and I was like stop, I know, I feel you.
Almansa also has a rich history. The town has been around since like the
fourteenth century. The name apparently is derived from an Arabic word that I can't
read, but the word means halfway of the road, okay, And it
dates back to the Roman Empire, like during the times of the Roman Empire.
Wow. And you know, for the longest time it was known as
a peaceful, quiet TOURISTI town wine castles, at least until the case that
it's either known as the exorcism of Drossefernandez Gonsalves or the exorcism of Almansa,
And so again, this is horrible. Eleven year old Rose Fernandez Gonsalves,
called Rosie by her loved ones, was born on April twenty second, nineteen
seventy nine. She was an only child. Her parents were Rosa Gonsalves Frito
and Jesus Fernandez Pina. Oh. And also, I'm going to refer to
eleven year old Drosa as just because there's a lot of names in this case,
and her mom is Rosa so Rosa Senior, Senora Rossa. She's gonna
be Rosa. Okay, yes, eleven year old Rosa is Rosie Rosi for
the rest of this episode. Yes, so Rosa. She was a well
known Kurandera in Almansa, and apparently Almansa itself the town is like very very
heavy into spiritual healers, Curandero's magic, you know, rukeria type things like
they're known for that. And Rosa was one of many Guranderas. So they
didn't get the memo from the physic. Oh the Spanish Inquisition, Yeah,
yeah, I guess they didn't get the memo from then. Apparently the Spanish
Inquisition was fucking around everywhere else except Spain. I don't know it infazed them.
Should be told. I don't know what the Spanish Inquisition was doing in
Spain, like if they had their own things going on there, clearly not
nothing there in that specif. I don't know about anywhere else. But right,
so, I'm sure you know this, but in many many cultures that
do practice healing, spiritual healing, the healer is not supposed to take money.
Everything's supposed to be donations because it's not supposed to be about the money.
Oh, actually, you didn't know that. Oh you didn't know that.
Yeah, yeah, it's a thing. There's a town in the Philippines,
or actually not a town, a whole island in the philippin is called
Sikiyor Island, and the island is known for its witchcraft and they have like
a yearly festival with a sorcerer. I mean, the proper word is not
sorcerer. I think I heard about this, yeah, horror story. I
worked on an episode that's where I heard it from. Yes, yes,
and it's an excellent episode. I'm a little biased, but it is good
and that in that research, I learned that the whole town, like the
healers, they don't take money. It's all donations. So yeah, it's
a thing. Androsam she was no exception. She quote unquote was not in
it for the money, but she was making so much money houseway through donation.
Oh right, okay, donations, Yeah, donations. She was very
sought out for her Kuran derismo, like she was one of the most popular
healers in this town. Sorry, this might be dumb of me to say
I didn't know there was gournandos in Spain because I thought they were hell Catholic,
So that's where my mind is. Well, that's the thing. To
me. Catholicism is very intertwined with spiritualism and kuran derismo. There's almost no
separating the two. But I thought the gudan deismo came from like indigenous traditions
and then it kind of like just melded here in like Mexico, Latin America,
but Spain itself. I just didn't think it would be like that because
you know what I mean. No, I did think that too, but
this this town is also like I mean, sorry, I'm like trailing or
mingling my thought. Spain is very superstitious. That's where the grapes come from,
like the twelve grapes at Yeah, that's true. Maybe it just so
it's always been a thing and I just didn't realize. Yeah, but I
also didn't know how much some towns believed in gurandrismo. Yeah as well,
like what you were saying, Like I did believe that was only like a
thing in Latin America. Yeah, but no, it's huge in Almansa.
And so Drosa claimed to not be in it for the money, but she
was making a bunch of money doing this, so much that her husband,
who was a shoemaker, quit to help her because she just had so many
clients. You quit the shoemaking business, Yeah, he did, he did.
And apparently she was trained by some other big known healer in this area
called Enrique el Vienna, and she was given the title Sister of the Light
and yeah, that name sounds a little cul tea, yeah it does.
And their house was filled with people looking for her help every day. She
truly believed that she had these powers and that these powers ran in the family.
So she convinced her sister Anna to help with the business, to become
a healer with her, because she believed that, or it's believed at least
in what she learned or how she was try that curanderos that worked in pairs
were stronger, and especially if they were like family. I mean that makes
sense. Yeah, yeah, because they also say, like alone, the
gift of like the supernatural scene and things like that, it runs in the
family. There's lines of brujas, right, so yeah, that makes sense.
And also on top of her sister Anna, she also convinced her,
not convinced, but her neighbor Maria Achiles Rodriguez ESPINIYEP, she brought her onto
the business as well. They were very close. They alleged they might have
had like a romantic relationship as well. Ew that was a little secret.
Okay, okay, Miss Santa Garian right. Rosa's neighbor Maria, brought on
her sister Mercedes to the business. So the four of them had their healing
group together, Okay, And I mean like everything was normal, you know,
the business was good until it's always in it until dunt, dun,
dun. This is where you insert the inverted picture. And they were happy
until they weren't the picture and then it either zooms in or out and then
their eyes turned red or black. Yeah. So, on September fifteenth,
nineteen ninety, Rosa and her sister went out for dinner with Maria and Mercedes.
While they were eating dinner, Rosa told the group that she wasn't feeling
good, and so the four headed back to Rosa's house. The events that
followed is what would result in the exorcism of eleven year old Rosie. Just
poor Rosie. What did she She didn't ask for this, she didn't know.
It's facking terrible. I don't know why I'm laughing. It's uncomfortable.
So the Spanish news would refer to the following four days as la ortia satanika
as an orgy, the satanic orgy ya okay, yeah, that's what they
called it. So the four women took hallucinogenic drugs or plants that it's not
like confirmed what they took first, and then like Rosa and Maria who had
the relationship, hooked up and they welcomed Anna and Mercedist to watch, okay.
And then the next morning, Drosa and Maria went to collect leaves from
a plant called bellennio. Do you know anything about this plant? Because I
didn't, I had to look it up. No, okay, Well it's
a poisonous plant, okay, yes. In English, it's called henbane and
it's part of the night shade family. Okay, I've heard of night shade.
Yeah. Then you're like, oh, I don't want to mess with
that. Yeah, and I don't think I've heard good things about night shade.
No, me neither. But this plant is native to Europe and the
physical and psychological reaction to henbane includes loss of muscular control, dilation of the
pupils, heart palpitations, hallucinations, sturillium and enlarge doses coma and death.
So okay, yeah, not good. It also has medicinal purposes, like
if you extract something from it, then you can use it as an analgesic.
Oh okay, okay, yeah for pain, so it's not all bad.
But if you take it then it becomes a hallucinogenic drug that can also
have a whole lot of other symptoms. So that's what they went to go
look for. They came back to the house, and when they came back,
Anna, Rosa's sister, she was scared. She was afraid. She
didn't want to take ill I just realized, so she watched Anna watched her
sister. Hey, I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, I
would have thrown up. Hey, Like at first I was like, hey,
whatever you do you but now it's incestuous. I mean it was already
incestrious, but I just realized it was incestuous. And so now I'm like
ready to throw up. Also, like that's disturbing. Yeah, yeah,
because she had Anna and me cousin mer is. Anna is Rosa's sister,
Yes, and then Maria is Rosa's neighbor slash lover and Mercedes is Maria's sister,
so each of them are sisters. There's oh no, no, no,
no, yes, yeah yeah, so yeah, already disturbing, and
it just gets that's like the lightest thing here. So Anna was afraid.
She went home, and then at some point everyone went home. Then on
September sixteenth, nineteen ninety, the next day, Drosa calls her neighbor Maria,
asking her to come over. So Madia grabbed her kids and went over,
and when she got there, Drosa told Maria that the spirit of Maria's
evil husband, Martine, was possessing her and trying to hurt her, hurting
Maria. No, Drossa, it's confusing. I was confused. Okay,
yeah, So the spirit of Maria's evil husband was trying to hurt Maria,
yes, yes, yes, And so Drosa needed to perform in exorcism on
her because she was being possessed, and then somehow also needed to perform this
exorcism on Maria's children naked. I mean that a reasonable conclusion you made,
yeah, I think so. So this exorcism grew more and more violent and
disturbing. At some point, Drosa put her fingers down Maria's children's mouths to
make them vomit, and it was so much it was to the point that
they were bleeding and vomiting. Oh my god, that's how aggressive. It
was terrible, and she would have continued this if it wasn't for Maria's evil
husband, Matty. I don't actually know if he was evil, I doubt
it. But if it wasn't for her husband, who barged in demanding for
Maria and the kids to come home. So he took the kids from Drosa,
I mean that sounds controlling. I'm just kidding. Hey, if you
don't let your kids participate in a terrible exorcism, it's a little controlling.
So he demanded that Maria also come home, but Maria refused, so he
grabbed the kids and left. Good. Yeah, yeah, at least he
saved his his children. Yeah, who knows what would have happened to them
if she kept going no one had put a stop to it. I believe
that they would have been killed, honestly. Yeah. So, a little
bit later, after he leaves with the kids and Rossan Maria still in Rosa's
house. Mercedis, Maria's sister, arrives at the house, she finds Maria
and Rosa in bed together. I was already I was going to say bed
before you said it, but I didn't stay it in time. Okay,
well, yeah, you would have guessed, right. And they told her
that they were Jesus and Law and Maria. Okay, so they were all
playing, but to the delusional level. Yeah yeah, yeah yes. And
then Hesus, Rosa's husband, and Rossi's father. He also up at some
point got home and came across also like a strange sight them in bed.
He saw them, No, no, he saw Rosa performing in exorcism on
Maria, and he was worried about what he saw. It must have looked
horrendous. I don't know. They looked like they were in bad shape,
is what he said. And he called Anna, then his own sister Hosepha
to come over and help. So when Anna and Hosepha arrived, they watched
as Maria screamed as Rosa performed the exorcism. These rituals that were part of
the exorcism, which is not I mean, they're they're making it up,
not like official obviously, Okay. I was wondering, like where are they
getting their like exorcism rules? From like guidelines, policies and procedures, like
where's that coming from? Right? They come from the from the Catholic Church?
Were they even Catholic? Am I just assuming they're Catholic because they're from
Spain? Yeah? Yeah, I don't. It never says, but I
would. I would assume that too, or I would have. So these
rituals involve sticky needles in voodoo dolls, throwing things around the room, throwing
books, breaking things, and pin on the floor. Okay the fuck?
Yeah, yeah, and more of this continued on to the seventeenth. So
it's been what two days of this? It started on the yeah, right,
three, it's a total of three days, okay, because one was
an orgy, not an exorcism, yes, yes, okay, sixteen seventeen
eighteen, So yeah, I started on the sixteenth. Okay, So now
it's midnight on the eighteenth, right, And at this point, dross and
Maria had locked themselves in a room, leaving Drossa's husband to take care of
Rosie in the house. And so at midnight on the eighteenth, Mercedis returned.
She had apparently got home at some point, and she came back to
continue the so called exorcism. So Rosa's husband then decided to check on them,
and he found them naked and covered in vomit and urine. What the
fuck? Ude? Oh man? And how did he not smell that before?
Maybe that's why he checked on them. I don't know. I couldn't
say either, but like that's just so disturbing. I don't know, I
don't know, extremely disturbing. Yes, And when he opened the doors to
check on them, the so at this point, at this point, it
is just Mercedes, Maria and Rosa. Okay, and me can remind me
who merceaid? This is again, mer this is Maria's sister, okay,
okay, okay, okay. So that then when he opened the door to
check on them, they started hitting him, and so he closed the door
again, what the fuck? Okay? And then Maria got her period she
started bleeding, and so Drosa interpreted this as a sign of demonic possession,
and she began hitting and kicking Maria, and then Maria, probably in an
attempt to save herself, said that she wasn't possessed anymore and that this evil
spirit was actually now possessing Rosie. Oh my god. Yeah. So then
Rosa orders Mercedes and Maria to bring Rosie to her, and they do,
and I don't know where her father was, Okay, I was about to
ask, because if he saw how fucked up they were, why would he
allow them to take her? That's just wild. Yeah, maybe he wasn't
there, but where would he be if his wife was acting like that?
Like or he just let them take her? Yeah, that too, Yeah,
which I think is what happened, honestly. So yeah, they take
her into the room and then all three of them begin to beat Rosie.
What the fuck? And this this is the worst part of the episode,
so probably if you don't want to hear the details of how terrible this goes,
skip like maybe five minutes or so. So they start beating Rosie,
all three of them, in order to expel the demon Rosa's husband. Here's
the screaming and crying, and now he barges in again. I don't know
where he was before. Maybe he was in the bathroom, I don't know,
I don't know. Yeah, when he opened the door, then the
three women begin to beat him, push him out of the room, and
lock the door. I just feel like he could have fought harder. I
don't know. But I've refused to believe that he couldn't just punch them,
Like, come on, I don't think I don't think they could overpower him,
But I don't know what they look like. I don't know. Yeah,
we're presuming here they could have overpowered him, you know, I mean
I guess they did. They must have. They they must have, right,
Yeah, but like like Maria's husband went over there and took his three
children, but they weren't in such a frenzied state. Yeah, so I
don't know, he could have been scared whatever. I don't know. They
overpowered him, let's just say that, and locked him out. Drosa then
claimed that Rosie was pregnant with the Devil's child. Are you serious? M
hm? And so then Marianne Mercedes held Rosie down while Drosa put her hand
in her daughter to try and pull out the fetus. What the fuck is
wrong with these people? I'm not going to go into detail at any point.
You could have just not what the fuck? It's it's horrifying, it
it really is. So Drosa pulls out Rosie's uterus and intestines. You could
do that. Yeah, it happened. Oh my god, it happened.
Yeah, okay, and where was the dad because obviously that would have been
a reaction so strong that anybody could hear, extremely painful. Yeah, and
you would have known it was from pain and you would have had to step
in, Like where was he? Right, I'm luderine, I don't know.
So he after this happens, he broke down the door and Anna was
with him. At this point, they called emergency services. I don't know
what the number is for NAEM one one. Police and an ambulance they called,
and the screams coming from the house were so loud neighbors could hear it.
I just feel like at any point, even neighbors could have been like,
what the fuck is going on? Let's all band together, even the
first time when he had tried to step in that first time, Like,
yeah, if he stepped in because he heard the screams, yeah, that
means like neighbors probably heard it also. Yeah, so before police and ambulance
could arrive, when Anna and his who's barged in, the three women like
looked up and so, oh, we can revive little Rosie, but we
need Anna's eyes. So then they like started attacking Anna. This just gets
worse. So right now, so Rosie is hurt whatever, probably just laying
there right uh huh. So then they're like, we can revive her with
Anna's eyes. And then the only saying other sane person here is the dad,
yes, who couldn't overpower them in the beginning to help Rosie his daughter?
Yeah, yeah, okay, yikes, I am already feeling bad for
Anna's eyes. It's terrible. So they, you know, jump on her,
start like beating her, start trying to clowd her eyes. But she
manages to escape somehow. I don't know. Okay, if she could escape,
why couldn't his suits overpower them earlier? I don't know. Again,
it doesn't make sense to me. I don't know. I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know. By then, ambulance arrived and police Rosie was
no longer alive. Oh. By the time dambulance arrived Rosa Maria Mercedes and
Hesusannana. They were all arrested at the same time, but charges towards Anna
and Hessu's were dropped pretty quickly. The autopsy revealed that Rosie, of course,
had never been pregnant, dull because you know how she said she was
pregnant with Yeah, she said she was pregnant with the Satan's child, right,
and that when Rosa pulled Rosie's intestines out, it caused her to go
into hypovolemic shock and that is how she died. That's what the cause of
death was. And it was revealed that she only had her liver and stomach
left. My god, I guess Rosa had pulled everything else out. What
the fuck? Yeah, it's it's truly disturbing. And so hesusan Anna served
as witnesses in the trial against Rosa, Maria, and Mercedes. Their trial
was held on January twenty second, nineteen ninety two. So two years later,
the three women were acquitted on the grounds of insanity. Okay, I
could see that. I truly believe they were not in the in the they
didn't know what they were doing, I don't think. Yeah, I think
just from the sound of it, it was just a complete state of delusion
and you know what else because that was so violent, But uh, a
complete acquittal. And I don't know what they were doing between those two years.
I mean, they need help. Yeah, yeah, they were apparently
at a psychiatric hospital, it seems, okay, or something like that,
like in some type of facility. They were diagnosed with acute psychotic state with
mental derangement and were sent to a psychiatric facility a little bit longer. So
they were acquitted, but they were still sent to Okay, back to the
facility in said ruling. So I'm gonna read the ruling, Okay, So
instead ruling, the defendants Rosa Gonsalves Frito were acquitted of the crime of patricide
and injuries. Maria Los Angeles Rorie S Espinia was acquitted of the crime of
murder and injuries, as the court understands that in both defendants there is a
complete defense of criminal responsibility for mental insanity. As for the third defendant,
Maria Mercedes Rodriguez Espinia, she's acquitted of the crime of murder as her direct
participation has not been proven in the facts. She's also acquitted of the crime
of injuries due to the defense of temporary mental disorder. So that was like
a really fancy way of saying what I said. Yeah, yeah, I
just wanted to sound fancy for a little bit, like a lawyer, you
know, or like a judge or like a jury member roup because they have
like the lead jury person read the charges, so the foreman an urban jury.
I skipped it once and I thought I was time to jail. Yeah,
this is when I didn't know I had ADHD and I forgot to go.
That should have been aside. Yeah. So all three women were released
after a few years of being at the psychiatric hospital. I couldn't find exactly
how long. Maria moved to Valencia after her release, and Mercedes moved to
Vayado lead ba yad lead. Yes, I never know if I'm saying that
city right city in Spain. But Rosa, I don't know where she moved
to. But she never returned to Almanza. Her neighbors said that they would
kill her if they saw her. Oh my god, I don't know why
I'm laughing. It's terrible. It's terrible. Yeah, it's not terrible.
And she did do some interviews after her release with some Spanish channels, and
there was one interview I watched of hers where she claims she has already paid
for what she did through her sentence, she has already served her time at
the psychiatric facility, and that she just wishes to be left alone and in
peace. That every three or four years, there's a new show that comes
out to cover what happened that day, what she did, and that she
has to relive that every time it happens, and she understands that this is
how she has to live now. But it's not fair. She doesn't know
what happened, why she did any of it. She doesn't understand, and
maybe that's her punishment and she regrets what she did. Those are that's what
her what she said, and I mean, like, what can you what
can you do? Can keep her keep them in the siiatric facility forever?
I mean, she's right, she did do she did pay for her crimes.
She spent her time in the psychiatric constitution and if it was true insanity,
which she was acquitted for that, so legally it's true. She doesn't
know. So yeah, yeah, when when you look at comments on YouTube
videos covering this or news articles, there's like, oh, she should have
gotten the death sentence, she should be killed, she shouldn't be alive anymore.
But like, none of these women had an abusive history by all cowns.
They love their children. Yeah, and on this day they happened to
take a bunch of hallucingenic drugs. I don't know why, because there was
even no stories of them having done this before, except they use these plants
and things like that in their healing services. Yeah, but there was no
history of them whatsoever acting like this, like truly to me as I mean
bad as it sounds like, I don't she already has to live in hell
knowing what she did, what she did, and that she no longer has
her daughter or her husband, yeah, or her husband, yeah, because
who's gonna stay with I mean, like you have to be so strong to
stay with someone after that, and I would not who. I don't think
anyone would honestly, No, I don't know who. Yeah, yeah,
And so I don't know, like what else is there left to do?
You can't just throw go around killing people. And yeah, honestly, I
think that they did have true, true temporary insanity because none of them had
like a history. Yeah, I mean, nothing else really explains it.
I mean they were acquitted. Yeah, it's just it's just a horrible,
horrible thing where the poor little Rose. Yeah, it's you know, the
real true victim here, and these women have to live with what they did,
and like, I don't know what else there is to do, because
I don't think killing them is fair either. No, And it doesn't take
away it doesn't bring Rosie back, It doesn't take anyone's pain away. Yeah,
the death sentence in general, I don't know most people. A lot
of people are against it, A lot of people are for it, yeah,
but most places don't have it. Yeah, and there's a reason.
Yeah. And I mean the case it shook the town like to its core.
Yeah, it's I mean it's so violent, and newspapers release headlines like
girl killed in Satanic ritual. But mmmm, this girl was killed in a
religious ritual that was not real. I mean it's an exorcism. That's not
a Satanic ritual, right, it's like the opposite of that. No,
it's a satanic in the sense that they're driving Satan out. Yeah. I
mean, it's just it's just wild to think what drive someone to that.
I mean, we kind of said it was insanity, but like how and
why? And I guess we don't have answers for that. Yeah. I
was gonna say the worst thing is that we will never have answers because they
don't even know because it was temporary insanity, Like, yeah, all they
can do is like blame the drugs. But yeah, like it's just horrible.
It's horrible. I didn't even go like if you want to go into
the detail of how this poor girl like truly died. Because I didn't go
into details, I almost threw up. I don't see why you would want
to do that. Yeah, no, but just look, you can just
look it up by what the name exorcism of Mansa or the extorcism of Roervice,
and you can see how it all, like how her intestines and everything
was pulled out. It's like truly gruesome. But yeah, it's just like
in the end, nobody, nobody, there's no justice except they served their
time. But still it doesn't I don't know, it just feels it just
feels little. I mean, but what would justice look like? No,
yeah, that's what I was gonna say again because I already said it,
like they served their time. Yeah, and so yeah, I'm not gonna
keep repeating the same thing. But yeah, it's just it's just horrible that
the things that happened in the name of exorcisms really or in the name of
religion. Oh yeah, yeah, truly horrible. Yeah, that was horrible.
We need a pellet cleanser. This this brings us to the end of
the episode, and I'm sorry to put everyone through that. Yeah, that
was disturbing. It's a truly disturbing case. But any what, I expect
our most, our worst cases to come out of Spain. I was gonna
say it wasn't there the last time you talked about in extorcism. Wasn't there
one in Spain? Also? Yeah, but it wasn't as bad as this.
It was. Okay, this is yeah, this is bad. What
that movie Veronica is based on. That's what we covered last time we did
something out of Spain. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah this
one. Oh I'm traumatized. Mm hmmm same. Maybe I'll look for a
friendlier not friendlier, but like a nicer ghost story next episode. It's been
it's been terrible. Okay, how their case. I'm sorry. Everyone.
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been watching Supernatural and married off for site. Oh you're back to Supernatural?
Yeah, that's what I put on when it's just me at the house and
I'm not like doing anything. And then I've been watching Married he for site.
I think season sixteen with my husband. Nice. Nice. I actually
do have a speaky recommendation today. Ooh you know me. You know I
love zombies, and it takes me a while to find like a zombie movie
that I'm entertained by. Usually I just rewatch all of Us Are Dead or
doat of the Dead, or yeah, all of Us are Dead is so
good. I thought there was gonna be a season two. Yeah, what
happened with that? I thought there was gonna be a season two? Also,
Yeah, very upsetting that it's not out there. Yeah. And then
they were like, we're gonna make an American version, and I'm like,
no, just give me season two of the same thing. I don't want
an American version. It won't be as good. Probably, yeah, no,
probably not. But I found a movie. It's called Valley of the
Dead. It's on Netflix. It's from Spain. Oh, speaking of Spain.
Yeah, speaking of Spain. Yes, Valley of the Dead. It's
set during World War Two and there's the you know Spain was fast fastest during
Yes, World War two. And so it's two soldiers from the Fastest like
Army, Fastest Spain Army met up with the anarchists and they have to unite
forces to fight the zombies. Wow, it's good. The acting is,
because that's the other issue with a lot of bombie movies that are just like
random that I find the acting is horrendous because they're like B movies or C
movies whatever they call them exactly. But this one the acting good. It
has little fuddy moments, but it also has you know, creepy See.
That's what I like scary movies that the people don't take themselves too seriously because
in real life, yes you're scared, but sometimes you can't help but laugh
at those situations that you're finding yourself in. Yeah, there's one scene where
they're like they're walking, there's zombies ahead of them. They're like in one
spot trying to figure out what they do. And then two of the guys,
because they're guys, like their soldiers, their men, they start arguing
and one of the guys is like something about how he I don't know,
you know, how people have a comeback with it's like, oh, yeah,
well I fucked your mom. Yeah, but the guy says, well,
I fucked your dad, and then the other guy's like, are you
gay? And so yeah, little more like people have like real human life
moments like that in the middle of a zombie apucalypse, right, So yeah,
and good zombie kills because there's those are always fun too, And yeah,
I mean it's in Spanish, so if you don't speak Spanish, you
could do it with subtitles. But yeah, I thought it was fun.
I like it better because I also a while ago I ran across a movie
set during the Mexican Revolution that these revolutionaries stumble upon like an acienda and there's
these sisters living in this sciena and then the reason that there are still standing
is because they have like their own herd of zombies. Oh they can resiscitate.
In that movie, it took a while to get good, but I
was like, I'm gonna give this a real shot because it's a Mexican movie
and in zombies, and I mean I like both of those things, and
so that one. At first, I was like, oh, when is
this going to start? But when it starts, it starts, you know,
Oh, okay, something stayed too long. I don't like that either.
Yeah, it took too long, but this one value is dead.
No, it was good from the beginning, so yeah, I recommend it.
It was good. I'm gonna check that out. You should, you
should, but yeah, I guess Now this does bring us to the end
of the episode. Yeah, our new book club. We still have to
record the episode because I'm giving people a chance to reply with their answers if
they want to, so we'll probably record that next weekend at the time recording,
But the next book club book will be The Vampires of Enorte, which
I'm so excited for. I'm excited. Yeah, I've read only good things
about it, I mean, but I also ignore a lot of bad reviews.
I haven't heard anything about it. Actually, I haven't seen people put
like post reviews or anything. I add things on too good Reads, like
want to read or read, so that's when I come across like ratings and
stuff. But like I said, I ignore bad reviews. Anyway, I'm
sure I'm gonna like it. Like I'm positive I accidentally started not accidentally,
I started reading it before I had finished the other one. Oh I forgot
you had it. I got to chapter two. But like things start happening
by the end of chapter one, like, okay, okay, I need
to order it. I think I was designed between the audiobook and the physical
book because the last one, and I listened to the audiobook first and then
I read it, and I like both. So but I can't just keep
buying both. I know, I think the same thing because I like to
have the physical one to go back for when I write out the plot.
But then I don't want to buy both, you know, like you just
said, yeah, it's a struggle. No, the audiobook is just as
good as the first one. It seems they have like two different like voice
actors just like so it's like similar where it's like from two a different point,
like a guy and a girl. Oh yeah, I think so that's
what it seemed like. I'm pretty sure. I don't. I could be
remembered remembering wrong, but I'm almost certain. I mean, we'll find out,
because we're going to start reading it. But also don't quote me,
but also we'll find out. Yes, so yeah, again that was Vampires
of It Northen. And I'll also send an email out to let people know.
I'm also posting the book club questions and like what book we're reading?
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you know time and we have issue scheduling. But i do want to start
doing a series on Patreon where I share paranormal news with Carmen. So I've
already found some very good headlines, So that's if you want that. And
then Creepy read stories that we read and react to join the Patreon and now
now this is the end. Do you have anything to plug Carmen. Yeah,
So if you like learning about Latin American history topics that you knew nothing
about, maybe had heard about here and there, and just would like to
learn more about Latin American history topics about like civil wars, stories of resistance,
power, community, sometimes bad stuff like racism, dictatorships, corruption,
US intervention, regime change, that kind of stuff. Then yeah, Chikaisoda
is unknown. And then we also have Novedakaito where we're we're watching we recap
the episodes and we talked shit along the way, and then we introduced a
new segment with that chronically online and we it's just talking about internet cheese man.
It's going to become its own podcast once we finished watching TESA, and
we just look forward to that because we love talking shit. Yes, yes,
we'd love cheesement and internet trends. So yeah, thank you again Carmen
for joining me today and everyone else I don't know. Don't take that plant
we mentioned in the episode and go perform exorcisms. Don't do that. If
you think someone's possessed, they're not. Just end it right there, send
them to a doctor. Just get those thoughts out of your head because it's
not true except for our listener story, because that was a demon for sure.
Not no there is some listener stories we received that I'm like, Okay,
I know I've been skeptical of possessions, but that sounds like a possession.
Send them to the Catholic priests asap. Yeah, yeah, just don't
do it yourself is what we're saying. I guess. Basically, no DIY
extorcisms. Thank you. That's it, No dey extorcisms. Stay spooky,
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