WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:04.759 You don't do away prive seventeen. Do you want to report a UFO thanking 2 00:00:04.839 --> 00:00:09.359 him? We don't want to report every thirty one Do you wish to report 3 00:00:09.359 --> 00:00:15.640 a UFOB and we weren't for one of those every thirty one? Do you 4 00:00:15.640 --> 00:00:19.399 wish to find a report of any kind of it? I wouldn't know what 5 00:00:19.519 --> 00:00:25.679 kind of rey was cloud n every thirty one me neither there seven one pup 6 00:00:25.719 --> 00:00:31.199 of golf good if it was above us to pass us, Like thirty seconds 7 00:00:31.199 --> 00:00:37.960 ago, there seven one pup of golf thinking it okay off a UFO yeah 8 00:00:38.479 --> 00:00:43.560 and nine thout yes I'll get passed over? Why God, I don't know 9 00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:47.039 what it was, but it's from at least two three thousand feet above us. 10 00:00:47.039 --> 00:00:51.439 So ye, I passed right over the top of us. Ninety one 11 00:00:51.479 --> 00:00:58.600 one? Do we just called off to be before they're off there standing airplane 12 00:01:00.119 --> 00:01:03.840 and it is actually hear? I swear to God. More calm in an 13 00:01:03.879 --> 00:01:15.280 unidentified on ject never liberty more calm unidentified flying on jack All right, Welcome 14 00:01:15.280 --> 00:01:21.480 to UFO Chronicles, a place where people share their experiences of the strange and 15 00:01:21.840 --> 00:01:26.200 unexplained. If you've had an encounter, I would like to be on the 16 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:48.400 show, you can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com. Hello 17 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:52.799 everyone, and welcome to the show. Wherever in the world you are listening 18 00:01:52.959 --> 00:01:57.760 from How is your Week? I'm Nick Hunter and this is the UFO Chronicles 19 00:01:57.840 --> 00:02:02.159 podcast. John in California starts us off tonight, and John will be sharing 20 00:02:02.280 --> 00:02:07.159 an account of what he encountered whilst walking home at two am on a morning 21 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:12.719 back in two thousand and five. Then we head north up to Sherry in 22 00:02:12.840 --> 00:02:17.240 Oregon and hear about the UFO she's witnessed and some of the other strange things 23 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:22.960 going on up in the Pacific Northwest. John is up next. If you 24 00:02:23.080 --> 00:02:25.560 enjoy listening to the podcast and I'd like to help support my work, there 25 00:02:25.639 --> 00:02:30.439 is a couple of ways to do this. 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Would you like to 35 00:03:20.759 --> 00:03:23.800 start at the beginning? Please? Sure. So this was back in two 36 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:27.319 thousand and five. I lived in East Ali at the time and Tina, 37 00:03:28.120 --> 00:03:31.360 I had just turned eighteen, and I was expecting a child. She was 38 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:36.719 actually born on August twelve, you know, nine days after my aking birthday. 39 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:39.280 So I was looking for work, you know, off the bast and 40 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:43.360 I turned eighteen. I spent that day just trying to find a job and 41 00:03:43.479 --> 00:03:46.319 I took one on at a fast food restaurant and yeah, I was like 42 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:49.840 this isn't for me. I had there for like two weeks and I was 43 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:52.960 like, I don't want to be here doing fries and all this Greece. 44 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:55.439 So I ended up going to one of these other called the ninety nine only 45 00:03:55.520 --> 00:03:59.199 start. They're like, I don't know, you know, international, but 46 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:04.240 here they're kind of popular. And I interviewed and unfortunately the only position, 47 00:04:04.479 --> 00:04:08.879 and you know, a slot they offered me was six pm to two am, 48 00:04:08.960 --> 00:04:12.520 basically closing the store and cleaning. I didn't have a cart time, 49 00:04:12.919 --> 00:04:15.360 but you know, it's a newborn and all that. I kind of had 50 00:04:15.399 --> 00:04:17.879 to take what was there, you know. So I was there for a 51 00:04:17.959 --> 00:04:21.360 few months, you know. Sometimes, you know, we met some people 52 00:04:21.399 --> 00:04:24.839 and so nice to get a ride home. And more often than not, 53 00:04:24.920 --> 00:04:29.480 though, I was always walking home, and you know, the stallion, 54 00:04:29.560 --> 00:04:32.439 and I wasn't in the best neighborhood, so I always carried a knife on 55 00:04:32.600 --> 00:04:36.920 me just in case anything, you know. But so this one night, 56 00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:41.040 I mean we closed the store, that's one of these knights had to walk 57 00:04:41.079 --> 00:04:45.399 home. I It was not a long walk, maybe u twelve minutes, 58 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:50.279 just down down the street, and there's an apartment complex and a hill next 59 00:04:50.279 --> 00:04:54.720 to the apartment complex, and so usually I either walk up the hill the 60 00:04:54.800 --> 00:04:58.360 gates locks of the apartments, then I'll go just walk up the hill. 61 00:04:58.519 --> 00:05:00.240 Yeah, that's my neighborhood. Actually grew up in that that same street, 62 00:05:00.319 --> 00:05:03.399 so it was somewhere we would hang out, you know, me and friends 63 00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:06.600 and all that. So this is something I was really familiar with. But 64 00:05:06.720 --> 00:05:11.839 anyways, though, so as I was walking, um, as soon as 65 00:05:12.120 --> 00:05:15.519 I got to where the crosswalkers to start my walk up that street. I 66 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:18.519 just felt weird. It's just like I felt like somebody's watching me. I 67 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:21.920 couldn't explain it nothing, It's just like I just felt uneasy, like something 68 00:05:21.959 --> 00:05:27.360 didn't happened tonight. So, um, all right, I started making my 69 00:05:27.480 --> 00:05:30.120 walk up the street, and I, um, it's a bunch of it's 70 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:33.680 so it's like a bunch of sides of houses, and but it's just so 71 00:05:33.759 --> 00:05:39.160 there's really no street lights. Um, so this is just dark street. 72 00:05:39.839 --> 00:05:45.120 And so make my way up. And so I'm looking straight ahead. I'm 73 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:47.480 coming to a view of the hill and the apartment complex, and I see 74 00:05:47.680 --> 00:05:50.879 and this looks like somebody crouching, like kind of like a you know, 75 00:05:51.000 --> 00:05:56.079 like a frog on the lily pad, just in a crouch position. So 76 00:05:56.160 --> 00:05:58.680 I'm thinking, okay, maybe it's one of one of my friends were neighboring. 77 00:05:58.759 --> 00:06:02.000 Maybe it's up there, you know, smoking or something. But proportions 78 00:06:02.040 --> 00:06:06.160 it didn't make sense to me. It looked lanky because behind them there is 79 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:10.120 a house and they have a light on the side of the house. So 80 00:06:10.319 --> 00:06:15.120 I'm looking at a silhouette and closer I get to it, just it just 81 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:18.600 wasn't right, and to see no hair on the head, and it's just 82 00:06:18.920 --> 00:06:21.720 in this position, and I'm like, I'm getting closer and closer, and 83 00:06:21.959 --> 00:06:27.000 it's I mean, it looked because the way it's knees and everything we're bent, 84 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:30.279 it looked like if it stood up, it'd be very tall. Moved. 85 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:33.720 I didn't see any sign of clothing, like not a hair on on 86 00:06:33.839 --> 00:06:38.360 it. And so I'm getting to the point to where, okay, it's 87 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:42.800 either walk up this hill or cut through the apartments. And luckily the gate 88 00:06:42.879 --> 00:06:46.639 was unlocked to the apartments, but it's I'm I'm blocking, and I moved 89 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:50.680 that knife from my pocket into my sweater pocket and I flick it open, 90 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:55.560 and it's why those little ones kind of makes like a snap noise. As 91 00:06:55.600 --> 00:07:00.600 soon as I did that, it growled at me. And it don't sound 92 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:06.199 like a dog or anything. It's just sounded. Yeah. It was just 93 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:12.040 so weird, and so I you know, I'm looking at it still hasn't 94 00:07:12.040 --> 00:07:14.560 made a move or anything. It's still crouchy, but I see it's turning 95 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:16.680 its head, it's falling where I'm going in my direction. It's watching me. 96 00:07:17.519 --> 00:07:21.680 So I'm walking backwards until I'm out of you. Where I can't see 97 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:24.560 it, no morn, I can't see me no moreny. I turn around. 98 00:07:24.600 --> 00:07:27.800 I start kind of like a brisk walk, like I'm I'm walking kind 99 00:07:27.839 --> 00:07:31.079 of fast. So I pop out at the apartments onto my neighborhood street and 100 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:35.959 I look towards the hill and I don't see anything. So now it's just 101 00:07:36.279 --> 00:07:42.360 a few houses too to where I get home. But I get onto the 102 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:46.839 sidewalk, and probably about five houses down, I see it's a woman, 103 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:56.199 dark hair, and she's walking like she like dragging her back foot, so 104 00:07:56.319 --> 00:08:00.240 stepping forward and kind of dragging the other foot. This is a new I 105 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:03.680 grew up on. This does not look like anybody that I know. And 106 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:07.800 after what just happened with the hill, I'm like, this isn't right. 107 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:09.720 Something's weird. So I, you know, normally, I mean i'd go 108 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:13.720 see somebody's okay, you know what I mean. But I'm like this, 109 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:18.040 this person and this is too fifteen two twenty in the morning, I'm like, 110 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:20.399 this does not makes sense. And I just had the gut feeling not 111 00:08:20.519 --> 00:08:24.639 to not to approach, you know. So I get to my gate, 112 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:28.160 I opened it, I started walking up my driveway. I'm about halfway up, 113 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:31.960 and my conscience gets the best of me. I turned around to go, 114 00:08:33.440 --> 00:08:35.320 like, I have to check on this lady by what happened. I 115 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:39.799 have to see what's going on here. So I walked down to my gate 116 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:45.960 and I look left, I look right. She's gone, Like it's too 117 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:48.519 far up the street for her to just you know, churn or go down 118 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:52.480 that hill or or even like if she had turned around, i'd still see 119 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:56.519 somebody walking. She was gone. She vanished, and like I said, 120 00:08:56.679 --> 00:09:01.399 those that's where I grew up. I know that neighbor. She did not 121 00:09:01.559 --> 00:09:09.480 match anybody's you know, anybody's appearance that I knew. Sound that, Um, 122 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:13.320 I will walk back up, went inside. I couldn't sleep. I 123 00:09:13.399 --> 00:09:16.679 probably adventure about about five o'clock. I kept looking out the window. It 124 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:22.519 was just yeah, So that's essentially, uh what happened. That was an 125 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:28.240 interest in Wolcomb. That was John Very I uh, you know, I 126 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:31.679 I quit the job probably about a week after. I couldn't do it. 127 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:35.480 I was, yeah, I don't didn't want to see anything like that again. 128 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:39.120 Didn't want to feel like that again because I was not transnic. I'm 129 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:41.759 tough everything, But you know I could I could hold my own you know, 130 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:46.200 you know, not worried about people, nothing like that, but that 131 00:09:46.399 --> 00:09:50.639 growl and that the whole experience is just something I've never been through. Yeah, 132 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:54.799 So it just kind of it was wild. So I didn't stick around. 133 00:09:54.799 --> 00:09:58.759 I eventually, event you went back to past food, you know, 134 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:01.320 because this is the only the place I would do that would hire me at 135 00:10:01.360 --> 00:10:03.039 that time. So I was like, Okay, I'm going back to one 136 00:10:03.080 --> 00:10:05.320 of these places so I can work during the day. I did not want 137 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:09.000 to do that walk again. Well, when it gets dark, all kinds 138 00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:11.639 of strange stuff happens. You know. It's one thing dealing with people in 139 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:18.200 certain situations, I know, but when you're confronted by something strange. I 140 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:20.279 mean, you had you had that strange creature that you saw, and then 141 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:24.600 you had this woman dragging her foot. It's kind of a bit like the 142 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:28.559 zombie movies in't there with a dragging their foot behind them exactly. It's kind 143 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:31.600 of hit me like the way she looked it was kind of like the girl 144 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:35.200 from the Ring essentially, like the hair just down, head down, and 145 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:39.399 she definitely wasn't very tall, and uh, with what was on the hill, 146 00:10:39.480 --> 00:10:41.399 I did I didn't mention m. Once I got close, I could 147 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:46.360 see it better. Best I could describe its head was kind of shaped like 148 00:10:46.440 --> 00:10:48.440 an almond, So you know almonds are, They're kind of rounded at the 149 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:52.279 bottom and the head comes to a point. That's That's the best I could 150 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:54.200 describe it as like almond shaped head, a little a little bit longer, 151 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:58.519 but it just just thinned. It seemed rounded at the bottom and just kind 152 00:10:58.519 --> 00:11:01.440 of thinned as it went up. So yeah, I know for sure that 153 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:05.000 was not a person, and it was it was kneeling down, but from 154 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:09.240 the from the light behind it, you could work out silhouettes, so it 155 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:11.799 did, yeah, give the impression like it if it stood up, it 156 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:16.080 would be tall. Oh yeah, because the legs that when it was crouched 157 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:18.799 the way the lady, like their knees were kind of sticking out. It 158 00:11:20.039 --> 00:11:22.039 just looked like it had some really long legs on it. What about facial 159 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:26.399 features, And I couldn't see any facial features. I get to see the 160 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:28.559 shape of the head and the silhouette of it, but I could tell it 161 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:31.159 was hairless. And like I said, if it had to set up, 162 00:11:31.159 --> 00:11:33.440 it'd be tall. And then the head shape also it was just kind of 163 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:37.360 like that, you know, and then that growl it did it just that 164 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:41.879 was not a normal animal it I don't know, it didn't sound human, 165 00:11:41.960 --> 00:11:45.720 didn't sound like an animal, you know, it just sounded That's why I 166 00:11:45.840 --> 00:11:50.279 think I when I had sent you my message, I was like Ray slashed 167 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:52.840 Eamon. So those are the only two things I can attributed to because I'm 168 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:56.320 like, that wasn't a person. I mean, it was, you know, 169 00:11:56.440 --> 00:12:01.399 definitely human shaped arms, legs and stuff up. But yeah, I 170 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:03.519 don't think a person could do make that sound that A mean, and you 171 00:12:03.840 --> 00:12:07.639 hadn't have heard of anything like that round the area before. No, this 172 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:11.799 was back in two thousand and five. I think when I started hearing about 173 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:16.919 people talking about like rags and stuff, that's my two thousand and sixteen seventeen 174 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:18.360 for me, when I started kind of hearing like rumbles of it, and 175 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:22.799 then I heard a couple of people tell their stories on other podcasts, and 176 00:12:22.840 --> 00:12:28.320 I'm like, this sounds closest to what I experienced, Like, this sounds 177 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:31.320 like the closest thing to what I happened with me. You know, I 178 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:33.440 certainly wouldn't want to bump beat this at two o'clock in the morning, and 179 00:12:33.480 --> 00:12:37.720 I'm pretty sure a lot of my listeners wouldn't either. Yeah, that's why 180 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:39.879 I can't work there no more. I'm like, I can't do this. 181 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:43.639 Ship. I try to see if I can work in the daytime. They 182 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:46.159 had no opening, So I told him I can't do this. Um, 183 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:48.200 I didn't do a two week's notice. I think I did it for a 184 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:52.240 week and I even took a longer route home. I didn't take that same 185 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:56.200 route that's the time I was there. Other than the fact that the job 186 00:12:56.279 --> 00:13:01.240 may have sucked, did you give him a reason why you didn't, Like, 187 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:03.240 I just told him I couldn't do that lead shift no more. And 188 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:05.080 I was like, I can't do this. I don't have a car. 189 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:09.200 I'm walking home at night, and I just told me it's dangerous at night. 190 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:11.919 I don't I can't keep doing this wop. It makes you wonder if 191 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:15.720 if this thing had reacted to you, you know, even even a knife 192 00:13:15.759 --> 00:13:18.440 would have been made a difference, right right. It gave me a little 193 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:22.480 bit of comfort because it was like I got something on hand. It's it's 194 00:13:22.480 --> 00:13:26.600 an no handgun or nothing, but you know, it gives me a fighting 195 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:30.120 chance, you know, because growing up, you know where I did. 196 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:33.919 I was in the youth rox boxing program for a while, and uh so, 197 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:35.840 like I said, I knew how to defend myself against people and all 198 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:39.320 that, like you know, you know, fight's never bothered me, but 199 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:41.519 I just knew. I was like, hell, I got as a knife, 200 00:13:41.559 --> 00:13:43.639 this thing moves on me, I'm gonna have to fight for my life 201 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:48.120 because it just seemed like, by the proportion of it, the thing would 202 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:50.919 be faster than me. But it did appear kind of like then, kind 203 00:13:50.960 --> 00:13:54.879 of like frail. Um, So I was like, maybe I gotta fighting 204 00:13:54.960 --> 00:13:56.440 chance, and this knife, you know, keeps me in that fight, 205 00:13:56.559 --> 00:14:00.320 you know. So I just grabbing the handle at a knife. So right 206 00:14:00.679 --> 00:14:03.879 the area where you saw it on the hill, that particular area is it 207 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:07.360 is it possible that it has like any wooded area anywhere where this thing could 208 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:13.120 could reside. Um that little hill leads up to a bigger thing like that. 209 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:16.559 There's houses, but behind those houses with a bunch of hills, and 210 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:18.759 we used to go up there when we're younger, and there's like actually a 211 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:24.120 little kind of kind of duck under a couple of these branches and stuff, 212 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:26.840 and there's a little flight area. I mean, you know, just to 213 00:14:26.879 --> 00:14:28.759 be honest, that's where we used to go like smoke potats sometimes. You 214 00:14:28.799 --> 00:14:31.519 know, our parents weren't there. It's away from the houses, but it 215 00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:35.480 was almost like a little like den area that we used to go to. 216 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:37.240 So yeah, walking through there, there's trees, and there's a hill area 217 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:41.360 and there's no houses that people you get into that hilly side. I wish 218 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:45.799 I had pictures of there, and I've since moved. Honestly, I haven't 219 00:14:45.840 --> 00:14:50.440 really since that happened. I didn't really venture up that area. Yeah, 220 00:14:50.440 --> 00:14:52.440 I don't blame you. Definitely strange. It's a strange thing. But then 221 00:14:52.480 --> 00:14:56.159 again, luck, you know we're talking before the the very beginning of the 222 00:14:56.279 --> 00:15:00.200 show. I've had accounts from from LA, you know, across LA with 223 00:15:00.360 --> 00:15:05.639 some strange encounters with creatures, some above ground and some would believe they're from 224 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:09.519 blowground in the sewer system. So you know, who knows what's walking the 225 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:11.200 streets? You know, when we were all going to bed and people are 226 00:15:11.240 --> 00:15:15.759 working a late shift exactly, you know, I know the only person around, 227 00:15:15.799 --> 00:15:16.440 I mean it's you. I'm two o'clock. I mean, just it 228 00:15:16.600 --> 00:15:20.480 was dead out there. I didn't see that car come by once, which 229 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:24.799 being two o'clock, it doesn't happen that opten anyway, But it's just yeah, 230 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:28.559 it was just dead quiet, and I just had a feeling as soon 231 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:31.279 as I left that start just so like something's gonna happen tonight, Like I 232 00:15:31.399 --> 00:15:35.440 thought, maybe you know, I'm gonna get a competation with somebody or something. 233 00:15:37.240 --> 00:15:39.679 Not that lucky. I would have preferred that, you know, I 234 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:41.960 would have preferred a rover. What happened because, like I said, it 235 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:46.279 just I couldn't do that job no more. I just couldn't. So you 236 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:50.519 had a feeling beforehand, so your intuition kicked in out the bat. Once 237 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:52.639 I got through the crosswalk and I started crossing the street to where I had 238 00:15:52.679 --> 00:15:56.399 that straight shot to my uh to where I can get to my house, 239 00:15:56.559 --> 00:15:58.440 Yeah, I said. As I was there, I was like something, 240 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:02.519 something's gonna happen. Yeah, that's really weird. But prior to two thousand 241 00:16:02.559 --> 00:16:06.159 and five, how do you add any experiences like this before? I mean, 242 00:16:06.279 --> 00:16:08.679 not necessarily like this creature thing. There was a time had to be 243 00:16:10.039 --> 00:16:12.519 maybe in ten eleven. My father passed away when I was nine years old, 244 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:17.240 and me passed away in our house, and just after that, like 245 00:16:17.480 --> 00:16:19.159 the energy in the house was not that's not a good feeling. I mean, 246 00:16:19.360 --> 00:16:22.879 I know my brothers and sisters had some weird stuff happened. But I 247 00:16:23.639 --> 00:16:29.919 had fallen asleep in our living room and that was on the couch and I 248 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:32.440 don't know why. I don't know what time it was. I just kind 249 00:16:32.440 --> 00:16:37.759 of wake up and as I opened my eyes, something someone leaning over me, 250 00:16:37.320 --> 00:16:41.559 looking down on me. So I'm looking up and they're looking over me, 251 00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:45.399 looking down on me, and I don't know. I just remember waking 252 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:48.759 up after that the next morning. I just remember over my eyes seeing that 253 00:16:49.519 --> 00:16:55.039 that had leaning over looking at me, like I don't know, to me, 254 00:16:55.159 --> 00:16:56.799 I mean, I think that's more like like a kind of a ghostly 255 00:16:57.120 --> 00:17:03.200 type thing, maybe shadow person, but I can't say for sure. Maybe 256 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:07.200 it was a dream. It didn't feel like one. You know, both 257 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:10.119 of these experiences that you've had, they have both been when you were in 258 00:17:10.200 --> 00:17:12.519 a kind of vulnerable situation. So you had the one way you were asleep 259 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:15.279 and you wake up, so you know, we're always defenses, you know, 260 00:17:15.319 --> 00:17:18.400 when we're asleep, right, and then when you're walking home at two 261 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:22.839 am and you see these creature. Yeah, but yeah, outside out of 262 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:26.119 that, I do have something from after and this was in Arizona, and 263 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:30.039 it's rare. It's a pretty quick once we're out there visiting some family. 264 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:33.880 This is um it had to be movie twenty at the time. So two 265 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:37.960 years later, we're you know, I'm out there. I go step out 266 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:41.079 into the driveway. I'm just kind of sitting there, having to smoke and 267 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:45.839 all that, and I kinda just get like a hunch like look over my 268 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:48.279 shoulder, and so I look over in our over our neighbor's house. It 269 00:17:49.359 --> 00:17:55.279 was rectangle shape, it was big, and it had like an orange pulsing 270 00:17:55.400 --> 00:17:57.920 light on the side facing away from me. So when it would light up 271 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:02.519 like that, you could see the silhouette in the shape of whatever this was. 272 00:18:03.480 --> 00:18:07.240 It's almost blimp light, but didn't seem like a like a blimp. 273 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:11.279 It's actually the silence of it. And that light that was posting on the 274 00:18:11.359 --> 00:18:15.079 other side, it was like an orange orange kind of light, like orange 275 00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:18.400 colored. And so I was watching it, and so I ran inside, 276 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:22.480 and that my daughter's mom's brother, so my my daughter's uncle, Hey, 277 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:25.519 Michael, come out, you got to see this thing. So he comes 278 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:27.720 out with me and he sees it, but we're just seeing the back end 279 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:30.599 of it now, but you can see the light pulsing. I'm like, 280 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:32.880 that's not a plane, and he's like, that's not a plane. I 281 00:18:32.920 --> 00:18:36.279 don't know what that is. And uh yeah. So with all of those 282 00:18:36.319 --> 00:18:38.480 three experiences, yeah, I mean, but I think those are probably the 283 00:18:38.559 --> 00:18:42.640 three biggest thing like minor stuff outside of that, you know, like hearing 284 00:18:42.680 --> 00:18:45.440 some voices here and there. Man, that's about it. Good stuff, 285 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:49.680 John, Thank you. Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't want to see 286 00:18:49.720 --> 00:18:52.759 that, right, I must submit. It's definitely creepy. Yeah, last 287 00:18:53.079 --> 00:18:57.279 last thing you need is seeing hearing the bushes rustling and seeing that thing, 288 00:18:59.079 --> 00:19:02.119 right, definitely. I'm glad I haven't. You know, I've only experienced 289 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:06.319 once because I was yeah, I don't, I don't care sism like that 290 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:11.400 again. And to our listeners, if you think you've experienced something very similar 291 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:17.319 to what John has, a lanky creature looking in the bushes, then let 292 00:19:17.440 --> 00:19:21.960 us know, because see if anyone else is in this uh this strange creature, 293 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:23.559 Yeah, for sure, i'd love to hear. Yeah, that's I 294 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:26.359 like about the format, you know, I'm like, you're just every day 295 00:19:26.440 --> 00:19:30.200 like everyday people. I just wanted to get that out there because I've heard 296 00:19:30.359 --> 00:19:34.039 so much recently and I'm like, i gotta, you know, get my 297 00:19:34.119 --> 00:19:38.359 account. So so you know, people like yourself absolutely like okay, you 298 00:19:38.440 --> 00:19:41.240 know this is what I've heard. Now, this is you know what this 299 00:19:41.359 --> 00:19:42.920 so and so I said, And you guys got to paint the picture. 300 00:19:42.920 --> 00:19:45.279 And I'm so long for the ride, like I'm just wanting to hear and 301 00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:48.720 more stories come out. I'm like, Okay to me, that was you 302 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:52.119 know, pretty similar. More people aren'tlying this kind of stuff. So the 303 00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:55.400 important thing is John, you know that you've you've come out with this experience, 304 00:19:55.640 --> 00:19:59.680 and the chances are that someone else is listening to had that experience or 305 00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:02.480 they someone that has, and then that's gonna help them. You know, 306 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:04.440 they're gonna go okay, So I saw the same thing. So now I 307 00:20:04.519 --> 00:20:07.599 can I can relax a little bit. You know, I'm not I'm not 308 00:20:07.799 --> 00:20:10.480 nuts. So you know it's a good thing, you know, And that's 309 00:20:10.640 --> 00:20:12.079 now it's snowballs, you know, that's how it that's how it goes. 310 00:20:12.839 --> 00:20:15.519 Yeah, I mean for me, that's you know, so the way I 311 00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:21.039 see it, I'm like, you know, if it helps anybody or you 312 00:20:21.119 --> 00:20:22.240 know, I've heard stories, so that's what I mean, we want to 313 00:20:22.279 --> 00:20:23.839 do it. I'm like, okay, i gotta chime in with my own 314 00:20:23.880 --> 00:20:29.000 because I've heard some similar things on like other shows that listen to. Yeah, 315 00:20:29.079 --> 00:20:32.400 So I's like, I'm gonna put mine out there and that's it. 316 00:20:32.519 --> 00:20:33.480 I'm not you know, I don't want nothing out of it, just to 317 00:20:33.839 --> 00:20:37.079 maybe somehow somebody you know exactly. You know, you know, like we 318 00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:40.640 said at the beginning, you know, there's tons of stories around in that 319 00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:42.119 area, but you know, you don't hear about it. It's kind of 320 00:20:42.200 --> 00:20:45.680 kept within the community and all that. So it's important to share these things 321 00:20:45.799 --> 00:20:48.759 for sure. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, I appreciate you, don 322 00:20:49.079 --> 00:20:52.920 John. I really appreciate you coming on sharing that for our listeners. Hey, 323 00:20:52.039 --> 00:20:55.960 thank you, appreciate you, and I'm gonna keep on listenings. Uh, 324 00:20:56.559 --> 00:20:59.400 you know, looking forward to maybe hearing this at some point. But 325 00:20:59.799 --> 00:21:03.559 you take care, man from keep off the streets at two am. Take 326 00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:07.200 care of yourself and now talk seemed to John. All right, all right, 327 00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:15.799 you take care, okay, take care, brother. I'm Richard Sarah 328 00:21:15.960 --> 00:21:22.000 join me on Strange Planet for in depth conversations with the world's top paranormal investigators, 329 00:21:22.039 --> 00:21:26.160 alien abductees, big foot trackers, monster hunters, time travelers, and 330 00:21:26.359 --> 00:21:30.000 more. The handler one day told her this whole thing about how they've been 331 00:21:30.119 --> 00:21:33.200 terraforming on Mars and they're building a colony, and they're recruiting specific people of 332 00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:37.400 specific bloodlines and specific talents and skill sets to go on to the planet. 333 00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:45.519 On Richard Sarah's Strange Planet, We're redefining reality. Listen now wherever you get 334 00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:59.839 your podcasts. Hello, Sherry, welcome to the show. Hey Nick, 335 00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:03.519 thank you for grace in this with your presence today. And you're cooling from 336 00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:07.960 Oregon in the US. YEP. Now, Sherry, you have some paranormal 337 00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:11.880 experiences to share. Would you light start the beginning please? Yeah. I've 338 00:22:11.920 --> 00:22:17.200 got a couple of UFO type stories, and then I've got a couple that 339 00:22:17.480 --> 00:22:22.000 delve more into kind of paranormal aspects. One thing I will say is that 340 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:29.039 I grew up in California, Southern California. I really had nothing unusual happened 341 00:22:29.240 --> 00:22:33.119 down there, even though I kind of lived outside of the city, could 342 00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:37.559 see the sky clearly, never anything weird. It was only after I moved 343 00:22:37.640 --> 00:22:45.200 up to Oregon that the strangeness started happening. And I will say that overall, 344 00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:49.759 I think Oregon is a very strange place. There's just a lot going 345 00:22:49.880 --> 00:22:56.559 on here, and I think just the land itself has kind of a unique 346 00:22:56.880 --> 00:23:00.759 energy to it. So I'll just throw that out there. But this was 347 00:23:02.279 --> 00:23:07.880 the first incident. Was in about two eleven. It was Thanksgiving evening. 348 00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:12.799 It's my husband, myself, and friend of ours having Thanksgiving dinner. So 349 00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:18.839 my husband was a smoker. At one point in the evening, he decided 350 00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:22.839 to pop outside and have a cigarette. So he doesn't get very far out 351 00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:27.480 the front door comes back and says, you have to come look at this 352 00:23:27.759 --> 00:23:33.440 right now. So me and my friend got up and we went to the 353 00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:37.720 front door. It was open, and immediately we could see what he's looking 354 00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:45.160 at. And it's a series of red or like an orangeish red balls of 355 00:23:45.400 --> 00:23:52.359 light and they are sitting over small hill that we can see from right outside 356 00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:56.720 our front door. What was this unusual about these is a lot of people 357 00:23:56.759 --> 00:24:00.599 would say, oh, it's probably Chinese lantern or something like that. We've 358 00:24:00.640 --> 00:24:07.160 seen Chinese lanterns before, and they kind of float very easy up into the 359 00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:11.240 sky, and it's very kind of random. These were all sitting in a 360 00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:18.640 perfectly vertical line and all equidistant, so you know, equal distance between each 361 00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:26.680 one of them. Then they started moving horizontally, like one would move horizontal 362 00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:30.240 to the right, one would move horizontal to the left. Then they would 363 00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:36.960 move back into the vertical line. So we were trying to get our old 364 00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:41.400 iPhones at the time to take a video or a picture, and it didn't 365 00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:45.599 really come out great. They just look like points of light. But this 366 00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:49.359 went on for i'd say a good fifteen or so minutes. They were probably 367 00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:55.519 I don't know exactly how far away they were, because you know, maybe 368 00:24:55.559 --> 00:24:59.319 if you held a dime out at arm's length, that's how big they were 369 00:24:59.400 --> 00:25:03.440 in the sky. But they did these maneuvers for you know, that whole 370 00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:10.720 time, so they definitely weren't Chinese lanterns in other words, just a complete 371 00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:17.000 choreographed kind of movement going on with these things. And then at a certain 372 00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:21.119 point in time, they all went further up into the sky kind of in 373 00:25:21.240 --> 00:25:25.640 that vertical line, and then each one disappeared, one after the other, 374 00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:30.119 and that was kind of the end of the show to speak. So no 375 00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:36.720 idea what those were. But I did go online and you know, kind 376 00:25:36.759 --> 00:25:41.440 of googled around for orange lights in the sky and did come up with a 377 00:25:41.559 --> 00:25:45.079 number of other people who were seeing similar things, but in other parts of 378 00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:51.880 the country, So all over the country, it seemed that the year earned 379 00:25:51.960 --> 00:25:56.720 that fall and winter people were seeing these lights. So that was kind of 380 00:25:56.799 --> 00:26:00.480 the first weird thing that happened. The next next, I'd say, was 381 00:26:02.240 --> 00:26:08.720 probably around twenty thirteen, and that was my husband going out late at night, 382 00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:15.119 would go walking and would randomly see crazy stuff in the sky. He 383 00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:21.640 saw something that he said looked like a bright green hourglass that had two diamond 384 00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:29.359 shaped red lights on either side, and that was traveling pretty fast within the 385 00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:33.640 sky. Didn't make a sound. He told me about it, he said, 386 00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:37.279 his lady didn't wake me up or anything. But later on he used 387 00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:41.759 to hang out at the local coffee place. Had struck up a conversation with 388 00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:47.720 another local guy about just seeing weird stuff in the sky in Oregon and described 389 00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:49.720 that one thing, and the guy stopped him and said, wait, you've 390 00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:56.400 seen the hour glass. So it was definitely something that someone else had also 391 00:26:56.599 --> 00:27:02.000 actually seen that was pretty weird. No idea what it was, of course, 392 00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:07.839 it's just one of those unidentified aerial phenomenons. At twenty sixteen, we 393 00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:15.400 had a series of sightings that were all the same object. I think one. 394 00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:22.200 I'd gone out on the deck which faces west, and it was towards 395 00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:26.400 evening time, so the sun was already pretty much set, but it was 396 00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:33.319 still light out, and I saw a very large, bright white light, 397 00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:38.559 round light in an area of the sky that my brain was thinking, like, 398 00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:41.599 that's weird that the moon's over. There was that big and bright, 399 00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:47.920 and obviously it wasn't the moon, but it was over another set of hills 400 00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:53.400 and the other direction, and I only saw it for ten seconds something like 401 00:27:53.559 --> 00:28:00.880 that, because it moved horizontally across the mountain top and then just disappeared. 402 00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:07.480 That mountain top over that on that side there are residences further down the mountain, 403 00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:11.759 but there's nothing on top of that mountain, so no roads or anything. 404 00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:15.160 I always try and look for something logical, you know, when something 405 00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:18.839 like that happens, and I just I had nothing. I don't know what 406 00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:23.160 it was. A few weeks later, I was just sitting in the living 407 00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:26.759 room and the sunset was like really awesome, So I decided I'm going to 408 00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:33.359 go take a look outside, and I see a bright white light coming from 409 00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:38.119 the west to the east, just kind of tooling along at a good clip, 410 00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:45.240 pretty fast moving. But again no sound at all, no blinking lights, 411 00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:49.880 no shape discernible to it. It was just kind of a white light 412 00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:56.960 that went across the sky. We ended up seeing that three other times that 413 00:28:57.559 --> 00:29:04.680 summer. No idea you know what it was. But also so something strange 414 00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:11.720 little later in that year, out camping, another bright white light, but 415 00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:17.920 it was completely dark at this time, clearly not a satellite, bigger, 416 00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:22.640 brighter, but yeah, no idea what that was. And it was going 417 00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:27.440 the same direction oddly, from west to east. So those are those are 418 00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:37.160 pretty much the identified flying object type things that I've seen in Oregon. The 419 00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:41.160 next the next things I'll talk about is just kind of the general weirdness and 420 00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:48.240 more paranormal things that happen here in Oregon. One is we get a sense 421 00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:57.160 that there's something like elemental spirits happening here in Oregon. Like I said, 422 00:29:57.240 --> 00:30:04.200 there's something with the land itself. It seems that it just feels ancient, 423 00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:14.200 something definitely not human, definitely ancient. There is almost everywhere in the particular 424 00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:19.799 area where I live. If you go out in the evening after the sun 425 00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:25.880 has gone down, once it's gotten dark, there's just an unsettling feeling. 426 00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:30.880 I can't really put my finger on it, but it doesn't feel like you 427 00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:37.359 know how Sometimes if you're in like a sketchy area or something and you realize 428 00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:40.799 like, oh, there might you know it's probably not safe to go out. 429 00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:47.160 It's not that it's something entirely different where you can tell there's not a 430 00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:53.920 human element to it. I actually consulted with one of them, the shopkeepers 431 00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:59.759 at a kind of little metaphysical shop in town here, and she says like, 432 00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:03.240 oh, you should try, you know, gritting your property with some 433 00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:07.160 stones and see if that makes a difference. And I did, and it 434 00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:14.200 did, so that was pretty interesting. Whatever is going on out there, 435 00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:19.519 clearly, you know, obeyed the boundary that I put up, and it 436 00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:25.160 does not feel like that's right on my property anymore. But if I go 437 00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:30.480 off the property, I can get that feeling. A friend of mine lives 438 00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:36.759 a little further into town and has got a similar thing going on at the 439 00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:44.279 house there. That house where pretty is haunted in a certain way, not 440 00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:48.960 in any kind of malicious way. It could be some residual thing. There's 441 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:55.640 been a lot of unusual noises that happen there that are kind of unexplainable. 442 00:31:56.200 --> 00:32:00.960 You'll see things out of the corner of your eye. One time, there's 443 00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:04.559 my friend has cats as well, and we leave the screen door open. 444 00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:09.119 One cat particularly loves to look out the screen door, and there was something 445 00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:15.440 that would come on the porch and kind of frighten the cats. So my 446 00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:20.920 friend said, at one point out of the corner of his eye kind of 447 00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:27.720 looked like cousin. It so kind of a small, kind of furry but 448 00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:36.559 ambiguous, like long fur brown thing, and it was requested of it that 449 00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:40.119 it not scare the cats. And you know, so far, so good. 450 00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:47.599 There there's something in the backyard that my husband, who was a little 451 00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:53.160 he had kind of maybe physical medium or something, he had some abilities, 452 00:32:54.000 --> 00:33:05.559 saw it as a sparkly gray thing that would simply move around the alleyway behind 453 00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:12.000 the house. So it seemed that seemed to be its quote unquote territory where 454 00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:15.400 it would just kind of go back and forth there. And again we didn't 455 00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:21.079 get any kind of malicious feeling or anything off off of these It was just 456 00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:25.839 kind of this is their space or you know, their territory, So kind 457 00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:31.480 of strange there. One night when I was driving home from my parents' place. 458 00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:37.839 They moved up here in twenty thirteen, I believe, and not too 459 00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:40.720 far away, like five miles down the road. It is late, like 460 00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:46.559 ten o'clock at night. I'm coming back, and I see what looks like 461 00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:54.480 it kind of had an animal shape, but not really. It was more 462 00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:59.640 blobby than that, but it looked like it had black, long fur or 463 00:33:59.720 --> 00:34:02.279 some thing. And again it was something out of the core of my eye 464 00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:07.880 on the side of the road. It definitely not a regular animal though, 465 00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:14.480 And oddly enough, a couple of weeks before I saw that, there was 466 00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:22.880 a pretty ridiculous accident that occurred right around that area where a woman who I 467 00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:30.679 think was under the influence of alcohol or something, flipped her Toyota truck and 468 00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:37.159 actually died in these people's front yard. That was right around there. So 469 00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:43.519 seeing something unusual like right where that happened was was kind of odd. Yeah, 470 00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:46.280 there's just a lot of a lot of strangeness here. There's a there's 471 00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:54.519 a county fairground right nearby, and there is there is a very unusual feeling 472 00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:59.480 at the fairgrounds too. The very first time we went there, it was 473 00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:07.119 during a county fair, and the minute we parked and got out of our 474 00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:13.400 car, I just felt like I don't really want to be here. And 475 00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:19.440 the more we walked around, the heavier this feeling, god, until it 476 00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:22.679 was almost bordering, kind of like on an anxiety attack kind of feeling. 477 00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:27.599 It's at one point I said, you know, I just got to get 478 00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:30.119 out of here. We should we should go, and it was about it 479 00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:35.760 was only we'd only spent maybe an hour there, so we left and you 480 00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:40.159 know, as we're driving away, that feeling completely stopped. So something strange 481 00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:47.079 there. I will say that television show The Dead Files has actually been here 482 00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:54.119 to my town twice in their series, and each time it was again something 483 00:35:54.440 --> 00:36:00.199 pretty weird. One of their locations. I actually know where it is as 484 00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:07.199 a house off of the freeway, and it's not too far from the fairgrounds. 485 00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:09.760 It's it's literally, like, I don't know, mabe a quarter mile 486 00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:17.480 something like that. So there's definitely something kind of strange going on in Oregon 487 00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:22.639 in general. Can't say what it is, but there is definitely weirdness here. 488 00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:29.000 So that's pretty much my stories. I could talk about a couple little 489 00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:34.840 things that happened to my father when one was when he was very young, 490 00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:42.079 and one was when he was a teenager. He lived in Pennsylvania, Western 491 00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:46.599 Pennsylvania, so kind of a rural area, small town kind of thing. 492 00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:53.679 He said that when he was very young, him and his mom and dad, 493 00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:58.039 and it was just him and his mom and dad. It wasn't his 494 00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:01.800 brother or sister at the time. I'm not sure where they were, but 495 00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:07.559 they were coming home from somewhere and it was the evening, and he said 496 00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:16.039 that he suddenly saw a bright light above their house and distinctly remembers, you 497 00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:21.199 know, like tugging on his dad's hand or something and saying, look at 498 00:37:21.239 --> 00:37:27.119 that, what is that light? And he says that his parents didn't see 499 00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:31.679 it, like they were just like what light. But it's, you know, 500 00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:37.360 a very distinct memory for him. So he says that the next kind 501 00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:42.599 of thing he remembers is that they were walking into the house, but you 502 00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:46.800 know, somehow they were all in the house at second later and no one 503 00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:53.480 remembers seeing this light. Western Pennsylvania kind of has a lot of tales and 504 00:37:53.679 --> 00:37:59.840 stories and stuff too, but that was one in particular that my dad experienced. 505 00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:02.559 The other was he used to go out into the woods a lot when 506 00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:07.159 he was a kid, do hunting and fishing that sort of thing, and 507 00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:12.960 it felt very comfortable in the woods. He would, you know, stay 508 00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:16.639 the night out in the woods, no tent or anything, just kind of 509 00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:22.360 sleeping under the stars type of thing. And he said one day when he 510 00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:29.039 went out there, it's it was one of those things that he says he'll 511 00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:32.800 never forget because of how unusual it was. There was always sounds in the 512 00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:40.159 woods. This was everything stopped. Everything got completely silent, and you hear 513 00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:45.199 this a lot with stories like this, where no other movement in the woods, 514 00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:52.000 no other sounds, and that's already unusual. But he said that then 515 00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:55.079 the you know, the hair kind of went up on the back of his 516 00:38:55.320 --> 00:39:01.199 neck and he felt like he was being watched again. Still no sound or 517 00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:06.719 anything, but he just got the feeling that he needs to get out of 518 00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:12.440 there, like right away. And you know, being someone who is familiar 519 00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:16.239 with hunting and everything, he he just felt like it was not any kind 520 00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:22.280 of animal like a deer or you know, anything like that. It was 521 00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:27.440 just a very strange feeling. So I ended up just kind of running all 522 00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:31.000 the way back to his house, which is about three miles and it was 523 00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:38.360 very cautious going out into the woods after that. So but that's that's pretty 524 00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:44.960 much pretty much all I can think of as far as stories go. Good 525 00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:49.880 stuff, Sherry. Interesting. What's going on in Oregon? That is the 526 00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:53.760 real question. Yeah, And it's weird because you know, when I was 527 00:39:54.119 --> 00:40:01.639 growing up in California, nothing nothing really unusual happened, and like I said, 528 00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:05.760 you know, I never saw anything weird in the sky other than you 529 00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:09.679 know, meter or something like that. But yeah, it all started happening 530 00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:15.000 moving up here to Oregon, and there's just there's just a certain feeling. 531 00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:21.280 I've been all over Oregon and it's it's a little different depending on the area, 532 00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:25.280 like eastern Oregon or the coast or up in the city in Portland, 533 00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:31.039 but everywhere there just seems to be a feeling of you know, other things 534 00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:35.480 or a foot here. I mean, Oregon it's quite it's quite wooded, 535 00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:38.239 isn't it. It's quite heavily wooded state. Yeah, I would say probably 536 00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:45.760 half the state Eastern Oregon totally different. There's a kind of Central Oregon has 537 00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:50.559 some high pines and things like that. But you're getting into desert and it's 538 00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:53.360 kind of a waste land out there. But the rest of the state is 539 00:40:53.719 --> 00:40:58.760 yeah, very very much wooded, and in those areas, you know, 540 00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:05.079 you can have some very ancient trees that have been there for generations upon generations. 541 00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:08.239 Oh yeah, definitely. I think a lot of things lurk around those 542 00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:13.440 areas. Oh yeah, for sure. There's I mean, there's tons and 543 00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:17.320 tons of big foot stories that come out of Oregon. I don't personally have 544 00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:22.039 a big foot story, but I don't make it a point to go out 545 00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:27.760 into the middle of the woods where once around either. I usually if I 546 00:41:27.840 --> 00:41:32.280 go camping, it's like a regular campground. But yeah, plenty of big 547 00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:37.159 foot stories. I mean, I've always been fascinated with big foots and sasquatches, 548 00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:42.159 And one day I will make it over to not not so much hunting 549 00:41:43.079 --> 00:41:46.440 or attempted observation right as it goes. You know, when you're at any 550 00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:52.000 anywhere in the wilderness, you should always be careful for short and oh yeah, 551 00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:55.280 and be aware of your surroundings because if it isn't maybe a big foot 552 00:41:55.320 --> 00:42:00.039 looking, there could be something equally as aggressive. Maybe that you've you've basically 553 00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:04.360 encroached into their space, you know, and they may not wonder that. 554 00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:09.639 Yeah, there's plenty of non supernatural things, right, and and hazards you 555 00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:15.000 know, like cliffs and you know all of that. There's plenty of weird 556 00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:20.280 stories around Crater Lake. For one, a lot of people that just kind 557 00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:24.119 of disappear out there and are never seen again. And Crater Lake itself has 558 00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:30.280 a very very weird vibe. That is another place where I just do not 559 00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:34.920 feel comfortable at all, you know. And it's beautifully scenic. It's I 560 00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:39.280 think the deepest lake, and of course it's a you know, volcanic crater, 561 00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:45.519 but I think it's the deepest lake in the US. So just just 562 00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:51.320 some unusual things going going around and Crater Lake, if you've never looked into 563 00:42:51.400 --> 00:42:53.800 that, there's some interesting stories. Yeah, that's right. It's a national 564 00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:58.239 park, isn't it. And I believe there is a lot of missing people, 565 00:42:58.840 --> 00:43:02.039 some quite recent as well, because I think David Blydy's had mentioned this 566 00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:06.199 in some of his books around quite a like of his Missing Him four on 567 00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:09.400 one books. Yes, yeah, I think he covered a few of the 568 00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:14.360 stories, a really famous one of you know, a guy that went missing 569 00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:19.679 where they found just I think a pair of pants with like feet bones in 570 00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:24.599 it or something, and way out, way out off of any kind of 571 00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:29.760 trail. And at the time he went missing, there was you know, 572 00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:35.199 like ten feet of snow something like that, so it would be rather impossible 573 00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:39.639 to kind of get out there without you know, serious equipment or snowshoes or 574 00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:44.719 anything, and he had nothing of that sort. So that was one of 575 00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:49.559 the really really unusual ones. People go out into nature a lot of times, 576 00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:51.800 you know, whether they're experienced or not. You know, they go 577 00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:55.400 out, they go ill equipped, they don't have no way of contacting you 578 00:43:55.519 --> 00:43:59.800 know, the outside world is something does happen, and a lot of times, 579 00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:01.239 you know, it is people that just go out on their own and 580 00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:07.320 never seen again. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, pretty freaky, pretty freaky, 581 00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:09.920 indeed, wonderful. Okay, let's go back to the beginning with these 582 00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:15.079 these balls of light. Yeah, the first thing people say is when they 583 00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:19.400 mentioned, you know, balls of orange light, Chinese lanterns, Chinese lanterns. 584 00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:22.079 You know, we've all seen them. And even if you'll see them 585 00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:23.920 for a couple of minutes, it doesn't take long to work out exactly what 586 00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:28.840 they are the ones that you saw. The lights that you saw didn't behave 587 00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:32.400 at all like Chinese lanterns, right, there was some intelligence there, and 588 00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:39.239 this was way before the proliferation of drones things like that, or led light 589 00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:45.880 shows or anything. These lights definitely seem to be independent, so you know, 590 00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:49.519 not attached to one another. There was no light coming up from the 591 00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:55.840 ground, no sound with these, and yeah, moving in formations like that 592 00:44:57.480 --> 00:45:00.559 very purposeful. You know, line all up in a vertical line and then 593 00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:05.559 going off to one side or often and then lining back up in a vertical 594 00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:09.119 line, so very very odd movement. Yeah. I mean, usually when 595 00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:13.920 you see Chinese lanterns, they're usually staggered on like a gradient, aren't they. 596 00:45:13.960 --> 00:45:16.840 They're usually like just rising up one by one, But yours was completely 597 00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:22.079 vertical, which you never really see. And then one shoots off to the 598 00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:24.440 left, one shoots off to the right, and then they go back into 599 00:45:24.440 --> 00:45:30.599 formation again. Yeah, and then all moved up at the same time before 600 00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:35.760 they disappeared, So they stayed in that vertical formation and all moved up, 601 00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:39.199 you know, up and further into the sky, and then one by one 602 00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:45.400 from top to bottom, they all disappeared, so very weird, very weird. 603 00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:46.400 Indeed, of course, it's always a good idea, you know, 604 00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:51.639 to look at things logically, you know, discount things before we obviously jumped 605 00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:54.280 conclusions. I'm sure we've we've all done it, you know, I've I've 606 00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:58.480 seen planes in the sky before and it's taken me at a wall to work 607 00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:00.880 out that's a plane, you know, due to the distance obviously. And 608 00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:06.559 oh yeah, I have kind of a funny story about my husband and I. 609 00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:12.039 We used to be a DJ's back in underground club scene in La back 610 00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:15.159 in the day, and we'd go out to raves and stuff. And this 611 00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:20.880 was you know, late nineties, like nineties, seven ninety eight somewhere around 612 00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:24.719 there. But they would have since we were southern California and the Desert Palm 613 00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:29.280 Desert is not very far away, they would have desert raves. So we 614 00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:34.239 all went out there one night and there were a bunch of people all standing 615 00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:37.119 on a hill, you know, obviously looking at something in the sky. 616 00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:38.960 So I wander over there and I'm like, wait, he's looking at and 617 00:46:39.719 --> 00:46:44.119 like it's a uf O. Man, It's it's it's like, look at 618 00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:46.280 it. It's moving all weird. And yeah, there was a weird light 619 00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:51.480 up in the sky, like moving around all weird. Everything. Turns out 620 00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:57.880 it was somebody with a kite with glow sticks on the kite. So everybody 621 00:46:58.039 --> 00:47:00.920 stood there for at least an hour, you know, convinced it was a 622 00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:06.760 UFO, until the person who was flying the kite kind of came came by 623 00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:13.159 with everyone's up there mesmerized, Yeah, yeah, so so, but yeah, 624 00:47:13.239 --> 00:47:17.559 there's plenty of times where there is a logical explanation for things, but 625 00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:22.760 you know, then there's those times that there isn't and you can't you still 626 00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:28.119 can't assume like, yes, it's you know, aliens from the Pleiades or 627 00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:32.920 something, but you have no idea. You really don't know because there isn't 628 00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:39.079 known phenomenon that behaves the way of the thing that you saw. That's absolutely 629 00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:43.840 right, you know. And these sight ins they are regular, you know 630 00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:47.559 regular. I get emails daily, oh yeah, absolutely, date well sometimes 631 00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:52.039 hourly. In fact, even even even in a time we've been speaking about 632 00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:57.599 free emails come in, so so it's it's a regular thing. I think 633 00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:04.039 more people are looking now too than ever before us. It just seems that, 634 00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:07.800 you know, it's obviously there's the whole disclosure thing and all that going 635 00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:13.599 on, and they're just more and more people aware of things. And I 636 00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:16.440 think it's good to look for, you know, the unusual in life, 637 00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:22.000 you know, look for things that just don't make sense or whatnot. There's 638 00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:27.119 a there's too much in the universe to really kind of assume that you know 639 00:48:27.239 --> 00:48:30.880 everything that's going on. Yeah, I agree, it's important that we do 640 00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:32.159 look up. I mean, fair enough, you can, you know, 641 00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:37.119 look down and tweet about it after, but you know, spend time absorbing, 642 00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:39.559 absorbing nature, you know, and looking up and seeing what's there. 643 00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:44.639 And I think that the whole looking for this, this magic in this mystery 644 00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:46.599 takes us back to when we were kids, you know, when everything was 645 00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:51.719 exciting and magical and didn't really know how David Copperfield worked in those days. 646 00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:53.559 So you know, it's you know, it's exciting. You know, it's 647 00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:59.320 exciting to chase these things. Oh absolutely, you know, living in Oregon, 648 00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:02.519 obviously it's a bit change than California. Yea, hopefully it's better, 649 00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:07.119 a better change is even though it's a bit bit strange up there. Yeah, 650 00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:10.280 these feelings that you would get, would you would you consider yourself a 651 00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:15.719 sensitive at all. Yeah, I definitely would say that I don't have kind 652 00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:20.400 of I wouldn't really call myself a medium per se, but I definitely would 653 00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:24.920 say I'm more empathic. I do get a sense of feeling when something isn't 654 00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:30.440 right or you know, when something's about to happen kind of thing, and 655 00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:35.320 you know, occasionally I'll get a little kind of premonition e type of stuff 656 00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:40.320 like that. But yeah, I don't think everybody feels it obviously. It 657 00:49:40.360 --> 00:49:45.360 would just be you know, people who are kind of sensitive to energy or 658 00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:49.880 really paying attention would be more apt to feel it. I mean, people 659 00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:53.360 that say live there probably completely used to that the strangeness, so it's completely 660 00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:55.679 normal to them. But anyone which you know, is from out of state 661 00:49:57.199 --> 00:50:00.519 and then goes up there and it's like wow, yeah, would you it's 662 00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:05.119 like a heavy feet and all it kind of is. It's just it's an 663 00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:09.639 unsettling feeling. It's and it varies, like I said, by area, 664 00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:15.920 Like the feeling out where I'm at, which is about five miles outside of 665 00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:22.519 town, would be yeah, just kind of an unsettling feeling where something in 666 00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:27.119 your head is just telling you you need to get back inside you know, 667 00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:30.320 you shouldn't be out here right now. And that's after the sun goes down. 668 00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:35.679 When the sun is still up and there's light in the sky, totally 669 00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:38.880 different feeling like it feels very comfortable. But as soon as it gets dark, 670 00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:45.679 and it seems so cliche, you know, when it gets dark, 671 00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:50.320 a creepy feeling comes. But it's true, like I don't know what it 672 00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:54.880 is about it, but there's just something where something is telling you, like, 673 00:50:55.199 --> 00:51:00.760 don't be out here right now. So some ominous maybe a little bit. 674 00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:04.199 I wouldn't call it get you know, dart or evil or you know, 675 00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:07.760 anything like that, but it's just a feeling that this isn't like your 676 00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:14.679 realm right now, something like something else going on. So the sun is 677 00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:17.440 going down, it's time for the others to come out and play exactly. 678 00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:22.400 So to our listeners, you know, if you're if you're from Oregon or 679 00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:27.840 you've moved to Oregon and you've noticed, you know pretty much what that's the 680 00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:30.320 same as Jerry is talking about, get in contact to like to like to 681 00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:34.239 hear that. And would you said, you know when you visited the County 682 00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:36.719 Fair, Yeah, it could have been you know, if you are as 683 00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:39.639 sensitive then it could be a feeling of danger that something could have happened, 684 00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:44.639 or you know, you may have got ripped off, maybe some shenanigans on 685 00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:47.960 some of the some of the some of the rides and games. Maybe, 686 00:51:49.159 --> 00:51:51.679 so maybe it was danger and it was you know, good out, good 687 00:51:51.679 --> 00:51:54.440 out of you right there. Of course, are a lot of you know, 688 00:51:54.559 --> 00:52:01.039 indigenous stories about the area too, and I know there was a rather 689 00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:12.079 awful battle that happened between settlers and the indigenous people that happened not too far 690 00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:16.360 from here. So there's that. There's also when I talk about the energy 691 00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:22.519 of the land. Crater Lake itself was a new massive volcano at one time, 692 00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:27.039 and thousands of years ago I think it was six thousand or so years 693 00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:31.000 ago it blew, and you know, the peoples that were here at the 694 00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:35.920 time, you know, definitely made note of that. But when something very 695 00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:42.400 cataclysmic like that happens in an area, I think it can often hold an 696 00:52:42.519 --> 00:52:46.199 energy with it too. And this area, while we're still we're like seventy 697 00:52:46.280 --> 00:52:52.440 miles west of Crater Lake proper, maybe seventy eighty miles, it's still like 698 00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:58.159 that that blast when that thing went off, went all the way to the 699 00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:07.000 coast. So this whole area is covered with you know, volcanic remains from 700 00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:12.000 when that mountain blew. Yeah, and these memories and these these energies stay 701 00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:15.760 within the land, you know, and yeah, interesting good stuff. Yeah. 702 00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:20.880 I actually drew a little picture of cousin it here, I take. 703 00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:22.480 I'd take little notes and stuff, and so knows to do little drawings, 704 00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:25.920 and I've got a little little cousin it, imagine. Yeah, that was 705 00:53:27.519 --> 00:53:30.960 an interesting That was an interesting one. I just like that. It actually 706 00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:35.400 kind of you know, you can talk to these things and say, you 707 00:53:35.480 --> 00:53:38.159 know, um, it would be really nice if you wouldn't. The cats 708 00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:40.239 are kind of a little fraid to you. It would be nice if you 709 00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:44.840 don't come up here on the porch and and it you know, obeyed that. 710 00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:49.800 So can't be all bad, right, No, they can't be all 711 00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:52.239 bad if they're you know, they're listening and doing as you you're asking. 712 00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:58.199 Yeah, Arth spirits always interested me. Earth spirits is not something you hear 713 00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:01.320 like elementals. You don't really hate are of them too much. But they've 714 00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:06.840 been around for very long, and they're in ancient teachings and ancient stories, 715 00:54:06.880 --> 00:54:08.719 and again it's their land. You know, they live in the trees, 716 00:54:08.840 --> 00:54:13.599 and many different cultures around the world have very similar stories of these spirits that 717 00:54:13.719 --> 00:54:16.320 live in trees. Oh sure, so you should always be aware of our 718 00:54:16.440 --> 00:54:20.960 spirits. I don't think that all they can always be good. I think 719 00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:23.920 sometimes they can be a bit mean sometimes if you you know, obviously, 720 00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:28.239 if you're up no good in their on their land and their area. But 721 00:54:28.360 --> 00:54:30.199 yeah, our spirits fascinate me. Yeah, me too, I mean, 722 00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:35.880 and that was something I did not a lot of in California. Could be 723 00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:39.639 just because there's just so much going on in southern California now with people on 724 00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:45.199 traffic and you know, hustle and bustle and everything, and up here there's 725 00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:49.599 a lot less of that, so you're just able to kind of focus in 726 00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:53.440 more on things that are going on in the natural world. So, you 727 00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:58.320 know, I'm sure they're everywhere, but just more noticeable in some areas. 728 00:54:58.519 --> 00:55:01.039 Yeah, I think definitely. If you go northern California to the redwoods and 729 00:55:01.039 --> 00:55:05.559 the Sequoias, I'm sure to be I'm sure to be up there. Not 730 00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:08.800 just what we wore. The redwoods have a vibe all of them all to 731 00:55:08.960 --> 00:55:15.000 themselves that you feel like you've stepped back in time when you're in some of 732 00:55:15.079 --> 00:55:20.280 those ancient Redwood groves. Really kind of amazing. Yeah, that's a place. 733 00:55:20.320 --> 00:55:22.199 I've always wanted to go there as a kid. Yeah, visit there 734 00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:27.800 since I think since since watching Star Wars. I think, yeah, that 735 00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:30.800 place is amazing. Yeah. Yeah, and that is the better Redwoods to 736 00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:36.599 go to too, in my opinion, it's the one where that they filmed 737 00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:39.639 what was it, Empire Strikes Back or something. Yeah, Return of the 738 00:55:39.719 --> 00:55:45.159 Jedi, Return of the Jedi. Wonderful stuff, fascinating Cherry. Yeah, 739 00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:47.400 no, thanks for doing this, Nick. I know you've got, you 740 00:55:47.480 --> 00:55:51.480 know, tons and tons of shows. I haven't been through, very interesting 741 00:55:51.599 --> 00:55:54.159 stuff. I love to listen to stories as well, just you know, 742 00:55:54.360 --> 00:56:00.280 just hear other people's experiences. Anytime something matches up your own experience to you're 743 00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:06.119 like, oh cool, you know, yeah, of course it's if someone 744 00:56:06.199 --> 00:56:08.159 else has had the same as you, You're like, well, at least 745 00:56:08.199 --> 00:56:10.840 I'm not crazy, or at least there's at least two crazy people in the 746 00:56:10.920 --> 00:56:15.280 world just like me. And you know, it's forever growing. The more 747 00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:17.119 episodes I do, you know, the more similar stories I have coming out 748 00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:22.159 like yourself, the guests that come on the show haven't told their stories anywhere 749 00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:24.239 else. You know. They may have told family members or the occasional colleague, 750 00:56:24.559 --> 00:56:28.840 but they've basically kept it to themselves. So it's nice that there is 751 00:56:28.840 --> 00:56:30.920 a place where people can come and share these, you know, I think 752 00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:35.559 that not so much entertainment or more as like a campfire. More as a 753 00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:39.119 camp fire people telling stories right now, it's like a digital campfire, right, 754 00:56:39.280 --> 00:56:42.639 Yeah, that's a good way, digital campfire. Write that one down 755 00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:46.079 if you're wonderful. Yeah, Sherry, I really appreciate you coming on sharing 756 00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:50.199 that for our listeners. Thanks for having it, no problem. Keep in 757 00:56:50.280 --> 00:56:52.519 contact all right, and I will talk to you soon. Okay, Okay, 758 00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:55.599 take that. Thanks for that. Right. That's all for this week. 759 00:56:55.679 --> 00:57:00.760 I'm afraid keep up dated and connected with the show on Twitter, Facebook, 760 00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:02.800 and Instagram. And if you have an encounter that you'd like to share 761 00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:08.400 on the podcast, you can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com, 762 00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:13.239 or you can reach out to me via a contact page on my website 763 00:57:13.480 --> 00:57:16.920 UFO Chronicles podcast dot com. A big thank you to John and Sherry for 764 00:57:17.039 --> 00:57:22.159 sharing tonight, and thank you all for listening. I will be back next 765 00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:27.199 week till then, stay safe and keep watching the skies. Goodbye,