WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:27.640 M a lot of fundamental bustles of wheel, national self interesting and individual rights. 2 00:00:30.559 --> 00:00:38.640 This is the uron Brook Show. All right, everybody, welcome to 3 00:00:38.799 --> 00:00:46.280 run book show on this Uh what is it. It's Sunday, Sunday nights. 4 00:00:46.359 --> 00:00:51.280 It's pretty the end of the weekend. Everybody's had a fantastic weekend. 5 00:00:51.600 --> 00:00:56.600 And yeah, all right, let's see. Let me just let me just 6 00:00:56.759 --> 00:01:02.759 play around with a sound here just for a second. I want to get 7 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:07.640 this up a little bit one two, all right, Yeah, I think 8 00:01:07.719 --> 00:01:14.599 that's better. Um, all right, we're gonna do that. I should 9 00:01:14.799 --> 00:01:18.959 put myself in video there. I am all right, hi everybody, And 10 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:25.239 today we are going to be talking about selfishness. So going to take a 11 00:01:25.280 --> 00:01:27.840 little bit of a break from talking about new stuff. We'll do that in 12 00:01:27.959 --> 00:01:33.719 the morning, talk about my new show, but you know, the day 13 00:01:33.760 --> 00:01:37.280 to day stuff. We will be talking about selfishness today, and in particular, 14 00:01:37.640 --> 00:01:41.400 we'll be watching a video of Patrick Ben David, who who is a 15 00:01:42.120 --> 00:01:51.359 big shot on YouTube and Value entertain Value attainment and who has four million subscribers, 16 00:01:52.040 --> 00:01:59.000 and he did a little segment on selfishness versus selflessness, selfishness versus Selflessness, 17 00:01:59.319 --> 00:02:04.319 which I think was very revealing and and really really interesting. So m 18 00:02:04.799 --> 00:02:12.080 I thought we would we would go over that today. And it's a good 19 00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:16.080 opportunity to just just talk about being selfish, what it means and the remaind 20 00:02:16.159 --> 00:02:22.159 everybody. Also, we've always got newbies here since a good opportunities to kind 21 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:30.080 of let everybody, let everybody know that what selfishness actually means some of the 22 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:32.159 some of the new people. All right, if you guys can tell me, 23 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:37.080 let me know if the sound is okay, as I'm still tinkering with 24 00:02:37.159 --> 00:02:40.639 stuff. It was okay, but the podcast sound was too soft, I 25 00:02:40.800 --> 00:02:46.120 was told in the previous podcast. So I'm trying to calibrate it so we 26 00:02:46.199 --> 00:02:57.000 get the right amount of sound on on the YouTube, but also the right 27 00:02:57.039 --> 00:03:01.879 amount of sound for the podcast so that the podcast doesn't come across at two 28 00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:06.439 low of a volume. So let me know what the volume is good. 29 00:03:06.759 --> 00:03:10.759 The volume for you guys who are listening on YouTube is good. And when 30 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:15.400 when I play Patrick Bedevida, let him know if if that is good, 31 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:22.280 and uh we'll go from there, and uh we'll go from there anyway. 32 00:03:22.479 --> 00:03:28.159 Patrick Indvidu is big, He's interviewed everybody. He did come to Okon one 33 00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:31.400 year basically to interview me. So he contacted me in advance that he wanted 34 00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:35.439 to interview me, said he would like to have to Okon to do it. 35 00:03:35.639 --> 00:03:38.240 I mean it was great. He was there and we did it on 36 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:42.319 the main stage, and I thought it was a good interview. I've posted 37 00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:47.159 the link to that interview in the chat um. I will post it again. 38 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:53.560 So I'll post it now so you anybody who wants to reference it later, 39 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:55.960 bookmark it and watch. If you haven't watched the interview, watch it 40 00:03:57.319 --> 00:04:00.800 because I thought it was a really I thought it was really good interview of 41 00:04:00.919 --> 00:04:06.639 mine right that I did, so hopefully, hopefully you'll you'll enjoy that, 42 00:04:06.919 --> 00:04:12.080 all right. If anybody's listening on the UM, well, I know lots 43 00:04:12.120 --> 00:04:16.879 of people are listening on the podcast audio only. If you want to let 44 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:21.000 me know, just dropping an email or dropping a note somewhere, just let 45 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:24.800 me know what the volume is like. Is the is the volume okay? 46 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:28.800 Is the too soft? I know it's too soft on the Greg Selmi video. 47 00:04:28.920 --> 00:04:32.480 I'm going to correct that on the Gregy podcasting UM, I'll correct that, 48 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:38.439 but let's let me know if it's too soft here as well. And 49 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:41.879 if there's a bigger problem that I can I can solve. And in the 50 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:45.360 previous setup I had at all worked out. I don't think I haven't worked 51 00:04:45.399 --> 00:04:48.560 out yet on this setup, which I'm gonna kill anyway, because I've got 52 00:04:48.639 --> 00:04:55.240 this massive soundboard here and I need I need to buy a small soundboard and 53 00:04:55.279 --> 00:04:58.600 get rid of this. This is like a twelve channel soundboard and I'm just 54 00:04:58.839 --> 00:05:05.759 using too. Um. All right, let's see. Have I seen a 55 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:11.240 yet? I have not, but I plan to. It's on my list 56 00:05:11.319 --> 00:05:14.399 to see. Uh. And I know I still owe two movie reviews, 57 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:18.879 which I do intend to do really really soon, and then get those Puss 58 00:05:18.879 --> 00:05:25.160 in Boots and Whiplash, Whiplash and the chats. About to ask for another 59 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:29.480 movie review, I can't remember it's listed here. If it is, so 60 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:33.800 it shouldn't be a problem. Oh the last the last of the season one, 61 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:38.160 episode three. Okay, I've I've got that. I've I've watched that. 62 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:40.759 I just I just need to watch it again so I can do the 63 00:05:40.839 --> 00:05:44.879 review. All right, let's jump in with Patrick and David. We are 64 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:47.800 talking about selfishness. I don't want you to see that. That wasn't what 65 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:50.759 I want you to see. I want you to see this bag um. 66 00:05:51.920 --> 00:05:55.399 So, uh, this is uh, this is a show. And at 67 00:05:55.439 --> 00:05:58.879 first, before we even start, let me just say this is great. 68 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:02.439 This is great. I mean, we've got a major play in the podcasting 69 00:06:02.480 --> 00:06:10.439 world, four million subscribers. Who does a video at ten minute video on 70 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:15.319 selfish versus selfless? Um? And that's that's that's already good. I mean, 71 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:19.639 who who has these kind of conversations, who uses the word selfish even 72 00:06:19.959 --> 00:06:27.519 semi positively? And and and here you'll see he uses it wrong. We'll 73 00:06:27.560 --> 00:06:31.879 talk about that. But at least there's an element of positivism in what you 74 00:06:31.959 --> 00:06:38.319 know, in its kind of UM. So we're gonna listen to this, 75 00:06:38.439 --> 00:06:42.240 we're gonna critique it. I think it's a great opportunity to really think about 76 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:49.480 what selfish is and to really kind of peel off what the misconceptions and show 77 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:55.720 you how it plays out, how the misconceptions play out in um in somebody's 78 00:06:55.759 --> 00:06:59.879 thinking. Now, here's Patrick Gundavite, he's already interviewed me. He has 79 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:05.079 red iron Rand, so he's we've talked about selfishness. He's red iron Rand. 80 00:07:06.399 --> 00:07:11.480 But it doesn't have a reality to him. It hasn't. He hasn't 81 00:07:11.480 --> 00:07:16.399 absorbed whatever whatever Ironran said or whatever I said, he still has or at 82 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:19.879 least or the alternative. Of course he doesn't agree with it, but my 83 00:07:19.959 --> 00:07:24.879 sense is he just hasn't absorbed it. He hasn't absorbed this alternative view of 84 00:07:24.920 --> 00:07:29.879 what selfishness is can be. Oh, no, properly is not can be. 85 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:36.240 Properly is hasn't really integrated this action. Jackson likes this topic because he 86 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:44.720 chose it. He sent me the video Katherine's here. Let me just remind 87 00:07:44.759 --> 00:07:47.800 if it'd been Katherine's here somewhere. She's been silent for a little bit. 88 00:07:48.399 --> 00:07:54.480 Katherine's here, and I have no super check questions, so I don't know. 89 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:58.439 This might be, This might be like you guys, you know, 90 00:07:58.560 --> 00:08:01.519 upset because Catherine hasn't been here for a long time and you're snubbing her a 91 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:11.680 little bit right now. But hey, Captaine's here and and um right, 92 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:20.879 and it's it's super Chat is available, so please use it. It's a 93 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:24.120 way to find the show. But importantly, you guys, this is a 94 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:26.360 way in which you guys determine the content and the show because you ask questions 95 00:08:26.680 --> 00:08:30.439 and then I get I get to talk about the things you want me to 96 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:33.039 talk about. Because you ask the questions, it's your content. So please 97 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:37.440 think about questions, thinking about things you want me to talk about. Use 98 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:39.600 the super chat in order to get me to talk about them. All right, 99 00:08:41.720 --> 00:08:45.279 Let's press play and let me know what the sound is like, if 100 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:50.759 it's too loud or too soft or whatever. So before I show the chart, 101 00:08:50.799 --> 00:08:52.559 he, let me tell you a story about Mario. I get them 102 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:56.080 sounds too loud to me. So what am I going to do here? 103 00:08:56.279 --> 00:09:01.000 Maybe it's my headphones. Maybe it's not you, it's my head right, 104 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:03.600 you tell me if this If it was, it was loud. Okay, 105 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:11.679 it was loud. Let me let me see what I can do. All 106 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:22.960 right, let's try this, um push it back. So before I showed 107 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:24.919 a chart here, let me tell you a story about Mario. I get 108 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:28.639 Mario has been with me now for eighteen years. Mario just had a wedding. 109 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:31.120 You got married this past weekend. I'm my house. Beautiful wedding. 110 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:31.919 We had a great time. But I want to tell you about a conversation 111 00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:35.240 I hadn't with them. Five years ago. We're sitting down in the office 112 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:37.960 in Dallas. I said Mario. Why don't you own a car? Cars 113 00:09:37.960 --> 00:09:39.200 don't move me? How come you don't own a watch? I don't need 114 00:09:39.240 --> 00:09:41.399 to have a nice watch. How can you never have money in savings? 115 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:43.960 I don't care if I money. If I have it, I give it 116 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:46.639 to other people. And I'm going through, like, notice all the examples. 117 00:09:48.480 --> 00:09:52.679 Notice all the examples he's giving, right, all the examples, A 118 00:09:52.879 --> 00:10:03.039 watch, A A I can't increases somewhere else, watch a car. All 119 00:10:03.080 --> 00:10:07.240 the examples about material things. And this is really really important. So everything's 120 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:13.720 about all those examples about this Mario guy in terms of material things. I'm 121 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:18.039 going to take it back a little bit. See you can so you can 122 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:24.480 listen to this again. Um, but this we'll come back to this because 123 00:10:24.559 --> 00:10:28.960 this is I think, I think, really really important. Why don't you 124 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:31.480 own a car? Cars don't move me? How come you don't want a 125 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:33.600 watch? I don't need to have a nice watch. How can you never 126 00:10:33.679 --> 00:10:35.519 have money in savings? I don't care if I money. If I have 127 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:37.879 it, I give it to other people. And I'm going through, like, 128 00:10:37.240 --> 00:10:41.200 what selfish goals do you have in place? Nothing I said, you 129 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:45.919 realize, but notice all the selfish goals, all the things that he defined 130 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:52.440 as selfish, every single one of them is a goal. That um, 131 00:10:52.720 --> 00:10:58.279 that is a material goal. There's no spiritual goal. There's no even career 132 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:05.600 goal is not mansions. So selfish is narrowly construed as at least right now, 133 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:11.720 as material as as as as stuff. Stuff. This guy doesn't like 134 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:16.240 stuff. But it is interesting listen to what he says about this. It 135 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:22.000 is interesting kind of this is the positive element that Patrick brings to this discussion. 136 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:24.919 By you being that way, you're not a positive to the world, 137 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:30.360 he says. That's the other thing to note, and I'm sorry I'm stopping 138 00:11:30.440 --> 00:11:33.320 him maybe two seconds, but well, we'll get to a flow here in 139 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:41.320 a minute. The other thing is from the beginning, the standard of value 140 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:48.639 is the world. So what he's criticizing this guy is, Hey, you're 141 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:52.919 not a knit positive to the world. What about being in positive to you? 142 00:11:54.799 --> 00:12:00.240 Because he'll talk positively about selfishness in a sense, but always is in 143 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:05.879 the context of what selfishness makes possible for you to do for the world. 144 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:13.279 That's the context. The context is not used. So there's no there's no 145 00:12:13.399 --> 00:12:20.159 real selfishness, there's no deep selfishness in a sense of killing about you, 146 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:26.600 your life, your values, your happiness, your world. It's out there. 147 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:28.879 What can you do to make out there better? And it turns out 148 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:33.559 the thinking about yourself, making your life a little bit better is good for 149 00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:35.759 the world out there, So do it. But the standard is the world, 150 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:41.039 and and and so if you if you take the standard as the world, 151 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:46.720 then you've undermined the whole concept of selfishness. To begin with, the 152 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:56.679 whole selfishness. You've predetermined it to be immolal and bad and unacceptable. Because 153 00:12:56.919 --> 00:13:03.720 your standard, whether you know implicitly and in this case explicitly is others. 154 00:13:05.480 --> 00:13:09.639 Is the world is external to you. That's the standard. And yeah, 155 00:13:09.679 --> 00:13:15.039 you should think about yourself more in order to make them better off. But 156 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:18.679 you see, this is how we conditioned all of them. All conditioning in 157 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:22.440 the culture, all of them, all conditioning in the world out there is 158 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:28.759 oriented around conditioning you to think of others, to place others first. And 159 00:13:28.919 --> 00:13:35.279 even in thinking about yourself and being quote selfish, it's because that motivates you, 160 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:39.879 that gets you excited, that's gets you going for the world out there, 161 00:13:39.159 --> 00:13:43.639 for somebody else. All right, we're gonna we're going to rewind it 162 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:46.759 a little bit. Again, if I have it, I give it to 163 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:50.200 other people, and I'm going through, like, what selfish goals do you 164 00:13:50.279 --> 00:13:54.799 have in place? Nothing? I said, you realize by you being that 165 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:58.240 way, you're not positive to the world. This is what you mean. 166 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:01.480 I said, if you're slightly more driven, other people win. I win, 167 00:14:03.080 --> 00:14:05.519 you win, your family wins, your peers win, your legacy wins, 168 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:11.159 your future kids win, everybody wins. So if you're slightly more selfishly 169 00:14:11.279 --> 00:14:18.039 driven, that is, if you're more driven towards values, everybody wins. 170 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:24.240 Now there's that truth to that. But notice that your family wins, I 171 00:14:24.399 --> 00:14:28.360 win, they win, they win. Over there, they win. But 172 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:31.559 the whole point is I win, and it's still too loud. Huh. 173 00:14:33.159 --> 00:14:43.120 All right, all right, so slightly so the standard, the standard note 174 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:48.240 the standard driven. Other people win, I win, you win, your 175 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:52.919 family wins, your peers win, your legacy wins, your future kids win. 176 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:56.919 Everybody wins. If you have something you're going after, the world is 177 00:14:56.960 --> 00:15:01.240 a better place if you're in the hunt or some of your selfish goals. 178 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:03.320 So he sits there and he starts thinking about it, which is absolutely true, 179 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:07.960 absolutely true. Everybody's better off if people are self interested if people are 180 00:15:09.000 --> 00:15:13.759 selfish and people sue values of people pursue selfish goals, you know, in 181 00:15:15.039 --> 00:15:20.039 in in a selfish way. We'll talk about with selfish goals and selfish way. 182 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:28.120 He means everybody's better off, including you. This guy's ubering around all 183 00:15:28.159 --> 00:15:31.159 over the place. He's one of the same thing pretty much every day. 184 00:15:31.240 --> 00:15:33.720 Same shoe, the same shirt, same pants. Maybe changes are up here 185 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:37.360 and there, but it's pretty much the same routine things. There's nothing exciting 186 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:39.320 going on that he's looking forward to except for his job. We have this 187 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:43.679 conversation, Mario starts making changes. He makes a video about alcohol. I 188 00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:46.440 think the last time Mario drank alcohol was three and a half years ago. 189 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:50.200 The video inspires a bunch of different people and then he says, Pat, 190 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:52.639 I want to buy this. He buys a nice red Challenger car, comes 191 00:15:52.679 --> 00:15:54.679 in. It's in the back of the building. Guys seems his eyes light 192 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:58.559 up. So look at what it feels like DNA why, which is great. 193 00:15:58.879 --> 00:16:03.639 I mean, what he's showing is what happens to people once they engage 194 00:16:03.720 --> 00:16:08.519 in their values, once they develop loves and passions and favors and things they 195 00:16:08.639 --> 00:16:14.879 desire. Now again the focus here is almost all on material things. But 196 00:16:15.039 --> 00:16:18.279 even in the material world, we have to desire, we have to want, 197 00:16:18.360 --> 00:16:22.840 we have to value, we have to appreciate, we have to strive. 198 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:27.039 It makes our life better. Material things make out life better. We 199 00:16:27.120 --> 00:16:33.360 should want material things because they make out life better. What's sad is that 200 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:37.360 it's totally limited to that, and that limits you completely in terms of your 201 00:16:37.440 --> 00:16:41.559 understanding of selfishness. Will get to that, right, But yeah, I 202 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:47.480 mean, this guy suddenly discovers he likes stuff, he wants stuff, he 203 00:16:47.679 --> 00:16:52.639 values stuff, and surprise, surprise, his life becomes more meaningful, his 204 00:16:52.840 --> 00:17:00.799 life becomes more fun, his life becomes more exciting. Watched and a nice 205 00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:03.240 suit and nice shoes, and you start saving money. Fast forward to today. 206 00:17:03.359 --> 00:17:07.160 He's been living on the water in Florida for a few years. Now, 207 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:10.759 drives a nice car, has more savings than he's ever had in his 208 00:17:10.839 --> 00:17:12.839 life. And I'm talking a few hundred thousand dollars of savings. Just three 209 00:17:12.920 --> 00:17:15.960 years ago he had one thousand dollars in a bank. He's got three hundred 210 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:19.039 thousand dollars and savings today, doing good for himself, just got married, 211 00:17:19.079 --> 00:17:22.039 about to be a father. Parents was here, family, was here. 212 00:17:22.119 --> 00:17:25.599 They're looking at him so proud of him. What happened to this guy? 213 00:17:25.960 --> 00:17:29.240 Just in five years, we don't recognize this guy anymore. What happened to 214 00:17:29.319 --> 00:17:30.640 this guy? He finally chose to be a little bit more selfish. So 215 00:17:30.680 --> 00:17:36.400 watch this, and what I would say is, yeah, there's a sense 216 00:17:36.440 --> 00:17:40.359 in which he chose to be more selfish. But what's really happened here is 217 00:17:41.640 --> 00:17:45.359 he chose to be a valuer. And that's ultimately what it means to be 218 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:53.680 selfish. What it means to be selfish in the most important sense is to 219 00:17:53.839 --> 00:18:00.279 become a valuer, to choose your values, to pursue your values, to 220 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:03.599 gain your values, to identify your values, to go after your values, 221 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:12.039 to live for your values, for your own values. And indeed, you 222 00:18:12.119 --> 00:18:15.119 know, we took a guy he didn't care about anything. It wasn't that 223 00:18:15.240 --> 00:18:18.680 he was he was self less. He was self less in a sense that 224 00:18:19.400 --> 00:18:22.079 he didn't care about self He didn't care about what he liked. He didn't 225 00:18:22.119 --> 00:18:26.279 he didn't he didn't like anything, he didn't focus him like anything. He 226 00:18:26.319 --> 00:18:30.720 didn't think about liking anything, he didn't value liking anything. And suddenly he 227 00:18:32.880 --> 00:18:40.960 oriented himself towards valuing towards liking, towards caring. Patrick caused us being selfish. 228 00:18:41.319 --> 00:18:45.440 That's good. It's a good you know, it's a good presentation of 229 00:18:45.480 --> 00:18:49.480 selfishness up to this point, up to this limited point. And the guy 230 00:18:49.559 --> 00:18:53.119 changed his life and it made his life, his family's life. Is people 231 00:18:53.160 --> 00:18:57.559 around him, the people who works with everybody's better off. It indeed is 232 00:18:57.680 --> 00:19:03.839 win win. This is good. This is the positive influence that maybe I'm 233 00:19:03.960 --> 00:19:08.839 van has had Patrick Bendavide in terms of you know, he's willing to at 234 00:19:08.960 --> 00:19:18.680 least say that something can be selfish is good. I create this chart yesterday. 235 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:19.880 I want you to think about it and kind of grade yourself as well. 236 00:19:21.160 --> 00:19:22.759 Then I'm going to give you a different ways save We have a chart. 237 00:19:22.960 --> 00:19:26.799 In this chart that you're looking at. On the top left, this 238 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:30.799 is a person that's one hundred percent selfish and there's zero selfless. The center 239 00:19:30.920 --> 00:19:36.039 where the two collide is fifty fifty, meaning they're fifty percent selfish fifty percent 240 00:19:36.119 --> 00:19:38.720 selfless. And then the person on the top right is a person that's a 241 00:19:38.920 --> 00:19:44.839 hundred percent selfless, meaning they don't care anything about themselves. Everything's about other 242 00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:48.599 people. And in the bottom right of somebody that has zero selfish genes, 243 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:51.319 meaning all I care about is as much as I do for you. I 244 00:19:51.400 --> 00:19:53.640 don't need anything from anybody. So then we continue this conversation and we said, 245 00:19:53.680 --> 00:19:59.160 so which one is more realistic and which one doesn't exist? So we 246 00:19:59.240 --> 00:20:02.319 created a chart and gave it a name with eleven different levels on where people 247 00:20:02.359 --> 00:20:03.839 would be based on the breakdown. And here's what we found out on the 248 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:07.880 top and the bottom. If a person is one hundred percent selfless and zero 249 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:12.160 percent selfish on the bottom, that's non existent. Yeah, so he's saying 250 00:20:12.440 --> 00:20:17.680 selfless people don't exist. You can't be selfless, and this is actually pretty 251 00:20:17.680 --> 00:20:21.079 good. It's a myth. You know why. It's impossible for a person 252 00:20:21.160 --> 00:20:22.799 not to be selfish. If you're not selfish, you don't eat, you 253 00:20:22.880 --> 00:20:26.440 don't drink, you don't take care of yourself, you don't wash, you 254 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:30.039 don't do anything. You don't exist. So that's a myth. A person 255 00:20:30.039 --> 00:20:33.599 cannot be a hundred percent selfless. You have to be selfish in order to 256 00:20:33.720 --> 00:20:37.799 live or else you're dead. However, at the top, so that's good, 257 00:20:37.160 --> 00:20:41.200 right, So at least he is rejecting the idea that anybody can be 258 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:48.720 selfless. He recognizes that basic survival, basic existence, basic existence in any 259 00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:52.119 kind of world requires you to think about yourself. It requires you to take 260 00:20:52.200 --> 00:21:00.160 care of yourself. It requires you to do some basic things that allow you 261 00:21:00.279 --> 00:21:12.119 to live. So truly selfless people would die. So pretty so so far, 262 00:21:12.880 --> 00:21:19.200 so good. Let's see where he goes with one hundred percent self interest. 263 00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:22.880 So when you look at the person that's one hundred percent selfish and zero 264 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:26.440 percent selfless, those people can actually exist. Some of them are criminals, 265 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:32.440 sociopaths, they're a danger to society because they're willing to sacrifice friends, family, 266 00:21:32.759 --> 00:21:37.200 relative business, career, it doesn't matter. There are one hundred percent 267 00:21:37.279 --> 00:21:41.240 all about themselves. However, now this is the amazing thing, right, 268 00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:48.839 How does he not get this? How does he not get that criminals and 269 00:21:48.119 --> 00:21:56.400 psychopaths and all these others are not selfish. Isn't it obvious that these people 270 00:21:56.960 --> 00:22:06.880 are undermining them selves. Isn't it obvious that these people are self destructive? 271 00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:11.440 You know, isn't a criminal going to jail? Is going to jail? 272 00:22:11.480 --> 00:22:17.559 A selfish thing is alienating your friends, your family, everybody around you, 273 00:22:17.759 --> 00:22:23.119 and being like a total totally isolated and not having anybody who want to do 274 00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:30.519 business with you? Is that? Is that self interested? Is that in 275 00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:36.799 your self interest? Is that selfish? Are you? If selfish means and 276 00:22:37.039 --> 00:22:40.839 here is an important point, you have to define it right. But he's 277 00:22:40.839 --> 00:22:45.039 defined selfless is not caring about yourself, only caring about other people. Then 278 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:49.720 let's say selfish means caring only about yourself and not caring about other people, 279 00:22:51.079 --> 00:22:56.319 only caring about yourself. But if you only care about yourself, doesn't that 280 00:22:56.480 --> 00:23:06.079 mean that you don't want to go to jail? Doesn't only caring about yourself 281 00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:14.920 mean that you want to have friends? Doesn't only caring about yourself mean that 282 00:23:15.720 --> 00:23:18.039 you want to succeed in business? And you don't want everybody in business to 283 00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:25.240 be alienated from you or to shun you. This only caring about If you 284 00:23:25.400 --> 00:23:30.880 only care about yourself, don't you want to still have a romantic relationship with 285 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:36.960 somebody just because sex is great and love is great and you feel great when 286 00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:45.799 you do it. So they can't escape, and sadly, Patrick can't escape 287 00:23:48.559 --> 00:23:56.920 this conventional notion that selfishness just means self gratification, short term self gratification. 288 00:24:00.200 --> 00:24:07.799 Why can't why can't they integrate into this conception, the idea of but there's 289 00:24:07.799 --> 00:24:12.440 a future, and in order to achieve my goals in the future, if 290 00:24:12.480 --> 00:24:15.480 a piss everybody off today, I'm not going to achieve my goals in the 291 00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:22.240 future. So why would I incorporate my future goals into my self interest today? 292 00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:29.839 And isn't that true self interest? Isn't being lying, cheating, stealing? 293 00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:33.519 I mean, is equivalent of being selfish? You know, being a 294 00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:38.519 criminal or whatever. Isn't that self destructive? Not selfish? I mean, 295 00:24:40.920 --> 00:24:44.160 don't you think that there's a there's a If you're going to do graphs, 296 00:24:44.519 --> 00:24:48.839 would you have to do it in three dimensions? They're selfish, they're self 297 00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:53.720 less. Well, but an element of being self less is being self destructive. 298 00:24:53.799 --> 00:24:57.839 Wouldn't you say that being a criminal is actually self less because it actually 299 00:24:59.039 --> 00:25:03.640 huts you, it actually destroys you, it actually does things, it makes 300 00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:11.039 you woose off. So it's it's it's curious how difficult this concept is. 301 00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:21.720 It's curious how how really hard it is for people to embrace the idea that 302 00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:30.039 the future is part of you and that in order to in order to succeed 303 00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:33.759 in life, you have to take the future into account. And I know. 304 00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:37.960 To succeed in life, you can't be a joke to everybody you know. 305 00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:41.920 To succeed in life, you can't life steal and cheat not to succeed 306 00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:45.160 in life. You can't be a psychopath and a in a in a criminal 307 00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:53.799 that's not successful in life, that doesn't lead to success. So it's not 308 00:25:55.440 --> 00:26:02.400 selfish. And I think I think that the fundamental one of the reasons that 309 00:26:02.519 --> 00:26:06.440 many reasons they can't integrate this, but one of the reasons they don't integrate 310 00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:14.559 it is that they don't actually in order to integrate it. I think what 311 00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:19.519 you have to identify is reason. Is man's basic means of survival. Is 312 00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:25.680 that in order to be selfish, in order to be successful in life, 313 00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:32.759 you have to reason, You have to think. And while when you talk 314 00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:34.440 to people in an aleoscope, if I ask Patrick with defeat, if you 315 00:26:34.519 --> 00:26:37.799 want to be good, if you want to if you want to make a 316 00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:45.480 lot of money over time over time, is lying, cheating, stealing a 317 00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:49.000 good strategy, he would say, no, of course not. Is alienating 318 00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:55.359 everybody around you, is turning out that people you do business with off against 319 00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:56.480 you? Is that a good strategy you need to go well? No, 320 00:26:56.640 --> 00:27:06.279 of course not, and he would actually recognize that it's thinking important in setting 321 00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:11.519 a strategy like that. Yeah. Probably so in any given narrow goal, 322 00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:15.880 I think they would see it. But I don't think they can see it 323 00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:18.599 as a general They can't see it beyond that. And then he can't connect 324 00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:25.559 that to selfishness because selfishness is so being corrupted. So even he who's trying 325 00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:29.680 to give it a positive spin, you need some selfishness, just not the 326 00:27:29.799 --> 00:27:36.200 length steating cheating pot, and you need some selflessness. We'll see, we'll 327 00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:38.240 see how that integrates. What does it even mean to be selfless? But 328 00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:41.359 he does hear some good stuff coming up on selflessness. All right, So 329 00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:47.759 I think you're getting you're getting it right. It's it's it's this lack of 330 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:52.359 reason, long term thinking, and it's all about, you know, selfishness, 331 00:27:53.079 --> 00:28:00.440 at least its pure form, is one hundred percent about instant gratification. 332 00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:10.039 It's one hundred percent about exploiting other people. However, we looked at the 333 00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:12.279 different tiers and here's what we came up with. So the next level would 334 00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:17.039 be somebody that is ten percent selfish and ninety percent selfless, meaning there's ten 335 00:28:17.079 --> 00:28:19.759 percent selfish ninety percent selfless, selfish enough to eat, to shower, to 336 00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:22.119 have a job, to do the basic type of things, but they'll agree 337 00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:26.759 with anything anybody tells them. These are people that are weak willed and generally 338 00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:30.920 cowardly. Now I love this. This is actually really really good because he's 339 00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:38.960 identifying self less ness with weak willed, with secondhandedness, with having no opinion 340 00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:48.319 for themselves, with being you know, weak. That's fantastic because that's a 341 00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:51.519 good integration. I wish he integrated the other side as well. I wish 342 00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:56.240 he integrated this selfish as being rational. He gets that a little bit. 343 00:28:56.319 --> 00:28:57.799 You'll see it later. He gets a little bit of it, but he 344 00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:02.319 can't get it at one hundred said one hundred percent is only caring about yourself. 345 00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:06.559 Well, reason just imploded. Reason just went out the window. Now 346 00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:11.559 you're just being you know, self gratifying, self destructive, doing anything, 347 00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:15.599 exploiting people, even though it doesn't help you, It doesn't make you better, 348 00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:19.559 it doesn't add to your life. All right, let's listen to cleaning. 349 00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:22.960 They're selfish enough to eat, to shower, to have a job, 350 00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:26.160 to do the basic type of things, but they'll agree with anything anybody tells 351 00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:29.559 them. These are people that are weak willed and generally cowardly. They're a 352 00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:33.160 net negative to society. One. Now, the other thing I like about 353 00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:37.119 this is the net cowardly, sorry, the cowardly. They associate cowardly with 354 00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:41.119 self lessness. I think he's absolutely right. I think courage comes from selfishness. 355 00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:48.279 So again, some good integrations here secondhanded, don't think for themselves, 356 00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:52.720 look to other people for everything, and are cowards. And then he has 357 00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:57.000 to add net negative to society. Also true, Just that's not the point. 358 00:29:57.119 --> 00:30:02.400 We're not trying to evaluate it hire by that standard. And what does 359 00:30:02.440 --> 00:30:07.920 it even mean the standard of society? Who's measuring? How do you measure 360 00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:17.640 which society? In what world? In whatever? Renette negative to society one 361 00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:19.599 minute to having a conversation with somebody saying do you know what that person said? 362 00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:22.279 Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, wow, I can't believe it. 363 00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:23.920 Then they'll go to the next person completely disagrees with that person. No, 364 00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:26.480 that person said, oh yeah, yeah yeah. Zero backbone. Okay, 365 00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:30.200 there's other words for it, but that's the level of ten ninety The next 366 00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:33.559 I like that zero backbone. If you're if you're ten percent selfish, ninety 367 00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:42.559 percent selflessness. According to him no backbone fantastic because absolutely true. Okay, 368 00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:45.000 there's other words for it, but that's the level of ten ninety. The 369 00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:48.599 next person is somebody that's twenty eighty. These are folks that are indecisive. 370 00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:52.559 They're conforming to everyone. They can't make a decision, So I don't know. 371 00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:56.319 Yeah, I don't know. They're afraid to make selfish goals and selfish 372 00:30:56.400 --> 00:30:57.680 dreams, and I don't know if this is good for me. I don't 373 00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:00.559 want to offend anybody. I'm just kind of like conforming again. I'm in 374 00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:04.640 decide, I'm staying out of it again. Conformity, lack of values, 375 00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:10.599 lack of drive. He's identifying it. That comes from caring about your own 376 00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:15.400 life. Selfishness means caring about your own life, which means setting your own 377 00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:18.559 values, living by your own standards. He gets the opposite. He gets 378 00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:23.119 the selfless nest means no values for yourself. It means not living by your 379 00:31:23.160 --> 00:31:26.920 own standard. But you know other people whispering. It means conformity. It 380 00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:33.400 means negation of you and not even having values. That's what self less ness 381 00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:38.519 means. So he gets the negative, which is good. The thirty seventy 382 00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:44.160 these are people that are passive, meek, submissive, tame, still a 383 00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:48.559 little more selfish than others, but not enough yet to start getting some kind 384 00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:52.359 of progress about them. There's still more in the net negative community than he 385 00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:56.599 have forty sixty supporting cast, very good, supporting cast, very helpful. 386 00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:00.440 They're great people to be having in business to help out with different structures. 387 00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:05.519 But during the forty sixty mode still and the so notice that once we get 388 00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:14.480 into the middle, the selflessness translates now into what it now translates into being 389 00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:19.640 helpful, helping others, being nice to people, opening doors to grandma, 390 00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:24.119 helping the old woman cross the street. It's it's gone, is the so. 391 00:32:24.599 --> 00:32:28.880 So that in a little bit of selfishness, right, it's this mixture. 392 00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:35.160 I mean, there's something very wrong about this whole approach. And of 393 00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:38.160 course we all want to ultimately be a one hundred percent of something right, 394 00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:43.400 one hundred percent of the good, one hundred percent of being selfish and what 395 00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:47.200 that implies. But it's interesting to see how he's conceiving of it, and 396 00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:53.200 it's interesting to see the true identifications that he is making about the wall. 397 00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:59.079 Thinking about self serves in one's life and the role and what happens when one 398 00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:05.400 doesn't do enough thinking about oneself. The problem is that he views self lessness 399 00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:13.319 as kind and nice to people, and it's much worse than that, of 400 00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:16.920 course, and to some extent he has identified that's it's the water down selflessness. 401 00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:21.400 That is kindness, But you can be kind and still be selfish. 402 00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:24.400 The middle is think or advisor. These are people that are fifty fifty. 403 00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:27.599 They're good thinkers. What do you think about this? I thought we should 404 00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:29.319 do this? What about that? I don't know. Let me think about 405 00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:30.799 the other person's side, Well, you know what, the their side is 406 00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:34.440 this, This side is that. So they get you to think because they 407 00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:37.519 can both be selfish and they're selfless. So they're actually a good person to 408 00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:40.119 have on the team because they can give you both sides of what to do 409 00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:45.960 and whatnot. So what's what sense in what sense of being selfless? Here? 410 00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:50.359 What's the sense in which people are being selfless in the sense that they 411 00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:54.480 can think about what other people might think, think about what other people might 412 00:33:54.599 --> 00:34:00.079 want. They might have some empathy. So now selflessness becomes empathy. If 413 00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:07.039 you're truly selfish and and and you're in you're in a team Isn't it selfish 414 00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:09.360 to try to understand what the other team members want? Isn't it selfish to 415 00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:15.280 try to understand what the context is? Isn't it's selfish to try to think 416 00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:30.599 and not jump to answers. So again, this conceptual confusion that he has 417 00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:37.039 is really screwing this up because all the good things he's saying now about fifty 418 00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:43.719 fifty, sixty forty all consistent with one hundred percent selfish. There's nothing self 419 00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:50.280 less about it, because now he's confusing self lessness before he got what it 420 00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:53.400 was now in this water down foam because it's water down by selfishness. Now 421 00:34:53.440 --> 00:35:01.320 it's becoming kindness, friendliness, thoughtfulness. But all those are characteristics of somebody 422 00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:10.760 who is potentially one hundred percent selfish. It's frustrating that he can't see it. 423 00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:16.760 To do. The synergist and the great teammate is the sixty forty. 424 00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:20.239 They have goals, they have dreams, they go out there and get it 425 00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:22.360 done. They push other people. There's somebody that you're going to want in 426 00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:25.960 any great organization because there are sixty forty and they have their own things that 427 00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:29.960 they still want to drive to improve the company, improve themselves they're reading, 428 00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:31.920 they're improving, they're doing all that. They're not content with where they are, 429 00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:35.760 so they have bigger selfish goals than being selfless. Then you have the 430 00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:38.920 kingmaker, and what is sense in which what's the sense in which they're selfless? 431 00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:49.440 See the way he's construing it is somebody who's selfish doesn't deal with other 432 00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:53.119 people, isn't interested in other people, doesn't care about other people, doesn't 433 00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:55.760 want to trade with other people, doesn't want to copy with with other people, 434 00:35:57.079 --> 00:36:01.760 doesn't want other people. But that's screwed up because it's in your selfish 435 00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:06.360 interest to deal with other people, to and the selfish interest to want other 436 00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:08.599 people to in their selfish interest to trade with other people. It's in your 437 00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:12.400 selfish interests to have sex with other people I know, and so on. 438 00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:23.039 So what is it? So but he cannot acknowledge that. To him, 439 00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:30.880 being selfish means no other people. It doesn't mean taking care of self. 440 00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:35.239 It means no other people. So no, here's the here's the interesting thing 441 00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:42.400 that integrates it on At the end, everything is about other people. Being 442 00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:49.760 selfish is not taking care of self. Being selfish to Patrick Vindavite means negating 443 00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:54.159 other people. Being self less is approving of other people, is working for 444 00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:59.599 other people, is all about other people. So the balance here is not 445 00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:02.920 about so much about self, although that doesn't enter into the values and so 446 00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:07.159 on, but it's primarily there's a big chunk of it is I either negate 447 00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:15.960 other people or I sacrifice other people. But to be selfish means to copulate 448 00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:19.199 with other people, to trade with other people, to identify other people who 449 00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:22.119 are good for you, into into being them close into your life, that 450 00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:27.639 friendship, to have loved and that he can't get that he can't get. 451 00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:39.559 All right, let's see the driver. These people are misunderstood. These people 452 00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:44.480 are going to be pushing everybody, raising standards, disturbing people. But at 453 00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:47.280 the same time they are selfless enough. It's about a bigger dream, a 454 00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:52.599 bigger cause, a bigger vision where everybody wins instead of just being about themselves. 455 00:37:53.239 --> 00:38:00.800 But a bigger vision, a bigger cause is in it they cause, 456 00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:07.559 their vision is that really selfless. They're winning by it. Again, massive 457 00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:12.719 confusion here about what these terms refer to and what is actually going on and 458 00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:19.840 what these human beings actually are. So there's something he's capturing here, something's 459 00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:25.480 capturing here, but he's not capturing a spectrum of selfishness to selflessness, even 460 00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:31.199 though there is value in such a spectrum. We could imagine such a spectrum. 461 00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:37.159 Such a spectrum would evolve, you know, maybe guilt, maybe people 462 00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:39.679 who are selfish and some realms of their life and selfless in other realms of 463 00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:47.079 their life. But selfishness means thinking about what's good for you and doing what's 464 00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:53.599 good for you, but what's good over the long run, thinking using reason. 465 00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:00.519 That is the thirty percent mixture of selfless and selfish to be able to 466 00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:05.320 drive the organization to the next level. The next one is a solopreneur eighty 467 00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:08.360 twenty selfish, twenty percent selfless. They're still a net positive to society. 468 00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:12.920 They set an example of success, but they're bad at duplicating meaning. Look, 469 00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:15.760 I'm good, I'm not disrespectful to you, I don't hurt you, 470 00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:17.039 I don't take advantage of you. But I'm just taking care of myself. 471 00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:20.320 You do you, I do me, and I'm still a net positive to 472 00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:24.119 society. Not a great leader, not great at driving other people, but 473 00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:29.360 they're good at for themselves. Then yet now again they up. He is 474 00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:34.840 identifying characteristics. It's just nothing to do with selfish versus self less. The 475 00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:38.440 next level, which is ninety ten, this is a narcissist world revolves around 476 00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:43.559 them, and the narcissist is actually not a net positive to society. They're 477 00:39:43.599 --> 00:39:46.840 bigger net positive to society than the weak world cowardly, but they're not a 478 00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:52.360 net positive to society. But how is a narcissist selfish? I mean, 479 00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:58.400 narcissism is a problem again self destructive, But how is a narcissist selfish? 480 00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:01.719 How is thinking that the world revolves around you, which is clearly false for 481 00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:07.760 pretty much every one of us, even even somebody like Donald Trump, where 482 00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:12.800 it comes very close to rotating around him. For those people, it's it's 483 00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:16.280 a narcissist. It's doesn't revolve around you. Say, you're living a lie. 484 00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:21.800 You cannot be happy, you cannot be successful, you cannot win, 485 00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:29.639 you cannot be great at anything. Well, they might not know that they 486 00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:34.159 but they know they're failing, they know they're unhappy, they know they're not 487 00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:40.480 successful. So reality is the judge in the end, and that ultimately is 488 00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:46.599 the standard. But the standard is also the standard philosophically, or the standard 489 00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:51.239 is really you know, human nature, what human beings. You require what 490 00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:55.599 human beings need, and this is the bigger issue of selfishness. Selfishness needs 491 00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:05.960 not just the value you a bunch of material stuff. It needs a moll 492 00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:13.760 faework, It needs a you know, amall system. You need principles by 493 00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:19.800 which to live. It's purely about them, and they're willing to do generally 494 00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:22.559 at all costs. They'll use you as a pond. They'll look at you 495 00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:23.599 as a way to get what they can get out of you. It's not 496 00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:25.719 about how they can help you, it's what they can get out of you, 497 00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:30.920 rather than making everybody I don't want at the same time, So when 498 00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:34.400 you look at the chart here, some people will come back and say, 499 00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:36.440 I can't believe you just said that, Pad. You mean to tell me 500 00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:39.400 somebody that's this they're we qual cowardly. Yes, that's generally what happens. 501 00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:43.119 You just called me Outpad. I don't like this feeling you've given me. 502 00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:45.800 I'm not doing this to make you feel good. When I create charts like 503 00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:49.000 this, I go and think about myself how I was at eighteen, then 504 00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:51.360 twenty eight, and what I have to choose to change, And it wasn't 505 00:41:51.400 --> 00:41:53.400 easy then thirty four, then thirty five. The only reason I'm looking at 506 00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:57.599 this because the last twenty years and having been in the insurance industry, haven't 507 00:41:57.599 --> 00:42:00.840 trained forty thousand different licensed agents in the insurance industry. You look at traits 508 00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:04.199 of qualities and you say, man, that guy could have been very big, 509 00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:06.920 but man, it was all about him. That person could be very 510 00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:08.440 big, but dude, he couldn't get over the fact that his wife kept 511 00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:10.199 telling him you gotta come home, or you gotta come home, or if 512 00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:14.559 you wanted to please everybody. She could have been amazing, but her mom 513 00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:15.800 made her feel so guilty all the time, and she fell for it. 514 00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:19.840 That person could have been amazing, that they could never make up their minds. 515 00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:22.199 It was always one day, this one day that that person was an 516 00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:24.199 incredible driver. And they built so many different leaders. They pissed a lot 517 00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:27.519 of people off, but they also built a lot of different leaders. So 518 00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:30.679 if you judge them on success, they helped a lot of people become financially 519 00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:32.039 free. These are case studies on different people. Now somebody may say, 520 00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:35.360 well, Pat, does this apply to every aspect of your life? You 521 00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:37.599 know, now this is important, So does this apply to every aspect of 522 00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:44.880 your life. Right, and you know, given that he doesn't have a 523 00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:49.440 proper definition of selfish and selfless, given that he doesn't really grasp it, 524 00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:52.480 although he's he's getting close to some things, but he doesn't quite grasp it. 525 00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:55.920 The answer, of course, is going to be now as a mother, 526 00:42:55.960 --> 00:42:59.840 if I'm pregnant, shouldn't I be selfless? Yes? This apply. 527 00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:04.599 If your mother and pregnant, you're gonna be selfless, So you should have 528 00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:09.559 the baby even if you don't want it. Right, really, I mean 529 00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:14.280 this is part of it. Yes, I mean this is suddenly the Christian 530 00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:20.159 ideall ideal, and this is the suddenly the the the the anti bulltionists. 531 00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:22.280 Aren't you having a baby because you want to have a baby. Aren't you 532 00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:28.239 having a baby because you love the idea of being a mother. Aren't you 533 00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:31.079 having a baby for selfish reasons? Aren't you taking care of your body and 534 00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:36.440 your health and not smoking and not drinking because you're selfish because you want your 535 00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:43.679 baby to be as healthy as you possibly can? Why? Because it's your 536 00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:53.000 baby? So again, viewing selfish is this narrow thing, is this narrow, 537 00:43:53.199 --> 00:44:01.000 materialistic, short term thing is deadly? It really is deadly. Because 538 00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:05.360 now he's gonna say, you should be selfless in your family life, you 539 00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:07.960 should be selfish, should business selfless in your family life? Now that's a 540 00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:16.400 disaster. We can um, you can go and look at um. Um. 541 00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:22.519 God, what was I gonna say? I was gonna say something anyway, 542 00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:25.960 We'll get back to it. But you know, it's it's a disaster 543 00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:32.559 to live this bifurcated life, selfless mass, just as he described in business 544 00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:37.960 is bad for you and everything. Is it good to be a coward in 545 00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:42.880 your family life? Is it good to be a coward in any part of 546 00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:46.920 your life? But to be selfless means not to have values, means not 547 00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:51.159 so so. Oh yeah, I was gonna give the example a randos given 548 00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:53.239 I always use about the wedding. Right you go to your your your you're 549 00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:59.360 supposed to be in the night before the wedding, you say, I'm not 550 00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:04.960 getting married with you for any selfish reasons. You know it's not because you 551 00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:07.079 make me feel any better. I'm doing it purely for you. This is 552 00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:12.960 completely selfless. I am this is a major sacrifice for me to marry you 553 00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:22.719 tomorrow. Really nice to business. Let me read it quoteure that maybe this 554 00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:24.519 makes sense to you. And this is by the same talent. He wrote 555 00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:27.880 a book called Skin and Again and he said this, He said, I 556 00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:30.639 am at the federal level a libertarian, at the state level of Republican, 557 00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:34.639 at the local level of democrat, and at my friends and family of socialists. 558 00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:37.480 Pretty weird. Yeah, I mean, he's a man of new principle. 559 00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:39.840 In other words, he doesn't stamp for anything. What does that even 560 00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:44.480 mean? Right? What does it mean to be a socialist? At family 561 00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:52.480 level? And you know, what does that mean? You treat truly everybody 562 00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:58.039 equally. One kid gets an A and one kids gets a F that's okay, 563 00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:01.239 love them both, treat them exactly the same. Both get desserts. 564 00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:07.920 You know when you know, when when is a is a excellent athletes, 565 00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:13.000 you maybe suppress him and the other ones mediocre, and you you know, 566 00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:15.880 you try to raise him up to just to make them all equal. Really, 567 00:46:17.639 --> 00:46:20.599 what does it even mean? I mean people say this, I think 568 00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:23.559 Hyak said this, in the family will all outurists in the family will all 569 00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:30.679 socialists. But we're not. Now, It's true that you cannot take a 570 00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:35.719 political concept and apply to the family. Family is not a political concept, 571 00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:40.800 but it's still true that in a family you have to be selfish, you 572 00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:46.440 have to do what's good for you. Now, the reason you have a 573 00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:52.000 family is because you have a selfish motivation to have a family, because you 574 00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:55.079 love them, because you care for them, because you want them to be 575 00:46:55.159 --> 00:47:00.440 successful, not out of a self less god for them, but out of 576 00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:07.679 a selfish regard for them, because you're selfish. You want them to be 577 00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:14.519 successful, and you don't treat them the same as you treat other kids other 578 00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:21.840 families because they're your kids. So again, this complete confusion. What does 579 00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:24.760 it mean that the local level to be democrat At the local level we should 580 00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:34.599 regulate and control everything. Really, why does that make sense? If it's 581 00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:38.400 wrong at the federal level, then what makes it suddenly right at the local 582 00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:44.039 level. So no, I mean, I mean a principle as a principle. 583 00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:46.320 As a principle, it applies federal level, local level. If if 584 00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:52.480 you believe that to use force, to use coosion to violate somebody's rights as 585 00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:55.599 wrong at the federal level, then it's also wrong at the state level. 586 00:47:55.679 --> 00:48:00.440 It's also wrong at at local level. And hey, it's it's even wrong 587 00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:07.119 in the family. Although again you're conflating two different many differentiations here federal, 588 00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:10.960 state, and local all political institutions. The family is not a different kind 589 00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:15.400 of institution, different kind of relationship, particularly when you get into children. 590 00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:19.599 Mcrat and my friends and family. A socialist pretty weird, right, Wait 591 00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:21.960 a minute. You can be a socialist and you can be a libertarian and 592 00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:23.519 a Republican and a democrat. Yes, at different levels. No, you 593 00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:30.480 can't, You actually can't. That is a completely confusing, unprincipled, bizarre 594 00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:37.440 way of living your life, completely fragmented. I'm simply giving you who benefits 595 00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:39.880 if you are somebody that you have some selfish goals. Your wife wins, 596 00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:44.840 your husband wins, your kids wins. Your last name was yeah. Yeah. 597 00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:50.840 Being selfish means it's good for your family. So why are you not 598 00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:52.480 being selfish in the family. Your family wants, your heritage wins, the 599 00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:55.760 company you're working for wins, the industry wins, everybody wins. A challenge 600 00:48:55.800 --> 00:49:00.599 with this conversation is this you ever rented a car and like, this is 601 00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:01.920 supposed to go one hundred and twenty miles an hour. How come when I 602 00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:05.440 go to eighty it goes back down. That car is a speed governor. 603 00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:07.199 And what it does is it doesn't allow to go over eighty miles per hour, 604 00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:10.320 right, And the rental companies do this so they don't have too many 605 00:49:10.360 --> 00:49:14.840 accidents because that's expensive and they've done the research to know what the numbers. 606 00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:16.199 They don't want drivers to go about because it's not their car. They don't 607 00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:20.320 treat it like their car. The reason why this chart is being shared with 608 00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:22.039 you is you may be watching this and you may say, man, I'm 609 00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:25.480 kind of part of the narcissist community. No problem, bring your governor down 610 00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:30.639 to seventy. Okay, and no, anytime you go about seventy, people 611 00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:31.960 don't like to be around you because it's all about you. But you maybe 612 00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:36.079 somebody that's at the other level. You're a little bit of a cowardly weak 613 00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:38.480 wheel, or you conform. Maybe you need to bring your governor up and 614 00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:42.599 start talking about your selfish goals. Like Mario, did you know what happened 615 00:49:42.599 --> 00:49:45.719 to his life? It changed almost everybody I know. That's bitter. They 616 00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:50.639 tend to come more from a place of selfless than a little that's true. 617 00:49:51.079 --> 00:49:54.599 That's true. It's very good at kind of critiquing the fact that people who 618 00:49:54.639 --> 00:49:58.440 are bitter people who are said, people who don't have a life are people 619 00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:01.440 who don't have values, and they're not self interested in not pursue their own 620 00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:06.960 goals, not pursue their own life. That's true, but then he doesn't 621 00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:12.159 understand what pursuing all that actually is a little bit of selfish. The world 622 00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:15.719 is a better place if you have a little bit more selfish gene in you 623 00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:20.360 than selfless gene in you. Everybody around you wins if you have that. 624 00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:24.400 So if you want the net positive index chart, all right, So yes, 625 00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:30.599 super super important to get your concepts right, super super important, to 626 00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:37.320 define them clearly, super super important to think it really through. What does 627 00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:43.800 it mean to be selfish? What does it mean to be selfless? And 628 00:50:44.239 --> 00:50:49.199 neither one of them is really about other people. To be selfless means not 629 00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:52.559 to care of ourself, not to take care of self, not to consider 630 00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:58.360 self. And in that selfless category, you would include somebody like Bernie made 631 00:50:58.360 --> 00:51:05.559 Off. You would include a lot of the narcissists, because what they're doing 632 00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:09.719 is not taking care of themselves, not doing what's good for them, not 633 00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:15.280 making their life the best life that it can be, the diminishing their own 634 00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:24.719 life, and What it means to be selfish is to take care of yourself, 635 00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:31.679 and that includes cooperating with other people. Means loving friendship, It means 636 00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:37.199 engaging with other people means motivating them. In a business context, it means 637 00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:42.480 leading, It means encouraging. It means being kind when the context is appropriate. 638 00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:45.159 It means taking care of your own life and making your life the best 639 00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:51.519 life that it can be. No, there is no such thing as destructively 640 00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:55.599 selfish. That's a contradiction in terms, how can you be destructive and selfish 641 00:51:55.639 --> 00:52:01.800 at the same time? What made was a self destructive but self destructive is 642 00:52:02.360 --> 00:52:08.920 selflessness. If Bernie made off, as stopped early on and said to himself, 643 00:52:12.280 --> 00:52:15.559 is what I'm doing going to lead to my happiness, to success, 644 00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:21.360 it's prosperity. Is lying, cheating and stealing really good for me long term? 645 00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:23.360 Is it good for me? Is it good for the people I love? 646 00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:27.559 Is it good for the things that I cherish, the things that I 647 00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:30.360 value? My friends? And he would say, well, of course not, 648 00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:37.000 and he would stop what he was doing immediately. And Bernie made of 649 00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:40.000 you know, he probably by the time he thought those thoughts, it was 650 00:52:40.039 --> 00:52:49.000 too late because he was so deep in it. But the problem is he 651 00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:55.559 didn't think. And the essence of selflessness is not to think. The essence 652 00:52:55.599 --> 00:53:07.239 of selflessness is not the essence of selfnessness is to not think about self, 653 00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:13.239 to not think about what's good for you, to not think about the consequences 654 00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:16.599 of your actions long term to you, to your life, to your happiness, 655 00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:24.800 to your friendships, just financial success, to everything. Don't call it 656 00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:32.079 irrational egoism, because you shouldn't condition egoism. Egoism is taking care of self, 657 00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:39.639 is caring about self. It's taking care of your ego, and by 658 00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:45.199 doing that irrationally, you can do it irrationally. To contradiction in terms, 659 00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:52.159 those terms cannot stand next to one another. It is not irrational egoism. 660 00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:57.239 It's not irrational self interest. It's not irrational selfishness. It's irrational period. 661 00:53:57.400 --> 00:54:04.840 In other words, it's irrational self less Now it's self destructive. Now. 662 00:54:05.119 --> 00:54:08.960 Sometimes you do something that is that is bad for you, but you couldn't 663 00:54:08.960 --> 00:54:12.880 have known, or you didn't know, you really did the thinking, but 664 00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:19.440 you made a mistake. That's not being self less. But people who don't 665 00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:23.719 think, people who don't plan and make obvious mistakes, and this is again, 666 00:54:24.239 --> 00:54:30.360 the advantage of having principles prevents you from making stupid mistakes, like don't 667 00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:37.320 like be honest, don't fake reality. That's it. Just do it all 668 00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:42.639 the time, don't fake reality. If you do that, you're not gonna 669 00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:49.400 make many mistakes in that room. This is the value of having virtues and 670 00:54:49.519 --> 00:54:55.639 having a moral system is It gives you a framework. It gives you shortcuts. 671 00:54:55.840 --> 00:55:00.920 It gives you cognitive shortcuts to be able to live a selfish knife life 672 00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:10.480 and to make fewer and fewer mistakes errors. But there is no It's just 673 00:55:10.639 --> 00:55:15.480 like, there's no such thing as conscious capitalism. I don't know what do 674 00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:19.000 you call? It's state capitalism. There's no such thing as irrational egoism. 675 00:55:20.599 --> 00:55:24.880 Not conditioned egoism is egoism. Staking of a self and taking care of self 676 00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:31.000 requires what the number one thing? If taking care of self requires rationality, 677 00:55:31.960 --> 00:55:37.199 So how can you have irrational taking care of self? You can't have that. 678 00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:45.519 It's just it's just doesn't make any sense. So the thing he's missing 679 00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:50.519 you think everybody's missing is the thinking they think everybody's missing is the reason rationality. 680 00:55:51.760 --> 00:55:53.760 That's what it means to be selfish. What it means to be selfish 681 00:55:54.400 --> 00:55:59.440 is to think, to think about what, think about how to make your 682 00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:01.880 life the best life that it can be, think about how to pursue your 683 00:56:01.960 --> 00:56:06.920 values, how to achieve your values. It's not about other people, true, 684 00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:10.400 unless those other people happen to be values, and for all of us, 685 00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:24.199 other people are values. All right. Hopefully that was enlightning to some 686 00:56:24.320 --> 00:56:31.079 of you, expanding horizons to others of you, and probably somewhat repetitive to 687 00:56:31.159 --> 00:56:37.360 many of you. Bet hopefully that was a value. I'm happy if we 688 00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:42.119 get a bunch of questions about ego, about being egoish, being selfish, 689 00:56:42.679 --> 00:56:46.039 and so on on the show. That would be Now when it's time for 690 00:56:46.079 --> 00:56:50.320 the super chat, that would be great if we got a lot of those 691 00:56:50.440 --> 00:56:54.480 kinds of questions. All Right, we are an hour answer the show. 692 00:56:55.480 --> 00:57:01.960 In spite of Catherine being here, we are way behind on our super chat. 693 00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:07.280 We do have goals, and I just want to re emphasize how important 694 00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:12.400 those goals are to the continue, you know, to the show, to 695 00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:17.000 being able to sustain it, sustain as many shows as I do. There 696 00:57:17.079 --> 00:57:22.480 has to be I have to, I have to have a sense of being 697 00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:25.480 compensated for it. A lot of that conversation comes from monthly contributors. Thank 698 00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:29.519 you for those of you who do it that way. Please more of you 699 00:57:29.639 --> 00:57:34.559 do it that way. Um that is through Patreon, subscribe, stall your 700 00:57:34.639 --> 00:57:37.079 on bookshow dot coms last support which is the main way in which people support 701 00:57:37.159 --> 00:57:42.920 me through PayPal, but we also use super Chat. Super Chat has become 702 00:57:43.079 --> 00:57:51.320 a major source of that um uh, that support, So please consider using 703 00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:53.760 the super chat feature. You can use just a sticker, or you can 704 00:57:53.840 --> 00:58:00.239 ask a question to help support the show. Five dollars from everybody listening right 705 00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:06.719 now would get us over the top of our goal, So I consider getting 706 00:58:06.760 --> 00:58:09.159 us off the goal. All right, let's start with shots about fifty bucks. 707 00:58:09.800 --> 00:58:15.440 I wasn't I wasn't. I wasn't intrigued by your news story about engineering 708 00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:21.039 egg sells in order about future artificial wounds. It would be possible to cook 709 00:58:21.159 --> 00:58:25.519 fetuses for a whole year so that they are born more fully developed, less 710 00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:30.960 time dealing with diapers and vomit. I'm curious about wasn't intrigued? Why weren't 711 00:58:31.000 --> 00:58:35.480 you intrigue? Or is that a typo? So you know? Anyway? 712 00:58:35.880 --> 00:58:43.039 Um yeah, artificial wounds make it somewhat optional. In terms of when you 713 00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:49.599 know in a sense they're they're born. So many babies are born now prematurely 714 00:58:50.280 --> 00:58:54.280 and and have to be an incubators or just very small and and and very 715 00:58:54.360 --> 00:59:00.039 sensitive and very difficult. But making us out of show makes it all the 716 00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:07.159 more likely that they will be more fully formed and more fully developed when they 717 00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:12.679 come out. Less time dealing with diapers and vomit. Good thing, good 718 00:59:12.719 --> 00:59:19.039 thing. But of course those early days, weeks, months of development of 719 00:59:19.159 --> 00:59:25.840 engaging with the world probably pretty crucial to cognitive development of the baby. So 720 00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:31.920 I'm not sure it'll turn out that it is. It would be it would 721 00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:36.239 be a value to keep them in for longer, even though it might be 722 00:59:36.320 --> 00:59:40.679 more convenient. So it was a typos, but says he was intrigued by 723 00:59:40.719 --> 00:59:45.519 the new story about engineering excels. I thought it was a fascinating story. 724 00:59:45.679 --> 00:59:49.239 I hope, I hope you guys check it out, all right, All 725 00:59:49.320 --> 00:59:52.400 right, So we got John with five dollars, Catherine, or five dollars. 726 00:59:52.719 --> 00:59:54.639 We need one hundred and more people to do five dollars, and they're 727 00:59:54.719 --> 00:59:59.239 watching right now. We're at one hundred like people, so just everybody I 728 00:59:59.360 --> 01:00:02.679 know, I know Gail has already done five dollars, so we've got you 729 01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:06.239 know, we've got a bunch of they're just doing stickers. They're not even 730 01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:09.280 not even asking a question. So any one of you can do that, 731 01:00:10.119 --> 01:00:15.239 please consider doing it all right here, um, thank you here, Thank 732 01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:19.519 you so much Ron for doing this live stream. Patrick Mdefde is a really 733 01:00:19.639 --> 01:00:23.360 dynamic individual, has done what I think we're extremely important with a lot of 734 01:00:23.400 --> 01:00:28.679 people on both sides of the law. Yeah, I mean I like Patrick. 735 01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:30.159 I like the interview he did of me. I encouraged you guys to 736 01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:34.119 go watch it. Just put his name in my name. I think that 737 01:00:34.360 --> 01:00:37.199 three different videos of me, one on his channel, one on the I 738 01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:40.519 an Institute channel, one on my channel. Of the interviews, it's We've 739 01:00:40.519 --> 01:00:43.599 been watched by a lot of people. I thought it was a good interview. 740 01:00:44.039 --> 01:00:49.199 And he's a dynamic guy. He's a great salesman, he's super articulate, 741 01:00:50.119 --> 01:00:52.760 and he has some of the biggest guests in the world on And maybe 742 01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:58.679 what you should do is, now that I've critiqued his selfish video, maybe 743 01:00:58.679 --> 01:01:00.719 you should encourage him to do an interview with me. Maybe talk to him 744 01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:05.800 about having me back on and talking about more things, maybe talking about the 745 01:01:05.920 --> 01:01:07.920 state of the world, talking about what's going on in the world, and 746 01:01:08.039 --> 01:01:19.079 also talking about why I think he's got selfishness wrong. James asked, what 747 01:01:19.679 --> 01:01:23.400 what's making you well known? Is not your podcast, it's your appearances on 748 01:01:23.440 --> 01:01:29.000 alex Feedman and other large platforms. I think you should do if you pray 749 01:01:29.079 --> 01:01:32.440 Gear University videos, those are what propelled Alex to notreaide. I don't think 750 01:01:32.480 --> 01:01:36.159 so. I don't think that's what propelled Alex the notoride. I think what 751 01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:40.079 propelled Alex de Notorieti is m is the work he did with all companies. 752 01:01:40.199 --> 01:01:46.679 It's it's it's the just the confidences he attended, the seminars, he did, 753 01:01:47.400 --> 01:01:52.719 the constant work with the industry itself. UM. I think the pray 754 01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:57.039 Get videos are nice. They're nice, they have that they you know, 755 01:01:57.159 --> 01:02:00.519 they they're big splash. But in terms of actually getting people to identify you 756 01:02:00.559 --> 01:02:05.199 as an expert, actually getting people to identify you as somebody connected to this 757 01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:10.280 particular industry, that is all about the things that he did with the industry 758 01:02:10.400 --> 01:02:15.000 and the book that he wrote and the marketing that he did around that. 759 01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:19.639 UM. The Peigue University helped a little bit helped with the marketing, I'm 760 01:02:19.639 --> 01:02:22.280 sure, but that's not what propelled him at all, I don't think, 761 01:02:22.159 --> 01:02:25.960 but I agree what what what made me well known is lex Feedman, other 762 01:02:27.039 --> 01:02:30.800 large platforms, and I would love to do large platforms. And I don't 763 01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:36.199 particularly want to do Prague University, um unless it's kind of on my terms, 764 01:02:36.320 --> 01:02:39.119 because I don't like Prague University. I don't like that platform. I 765 01:02:39.440 --> 01:02:44.559 find it antium, anti everything, anti a lot of what I believe in 766 01:02:44.639 --> 01:02:49.039 and what I hold dear um and and it's just not worth it. Plus, 767 01:02:49.199 --> 01:02:52.480 you know, they've never approached me to do it, and they would 768 01:02:52.519 --> 01:02:54.719 want me to pay them a lot of money to do it. So you 769 01:02:54.840 --> 01:03:00.440 know, I got lex Feedman, I got what's his name, um um, 770 01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:05.199 Shapiro. I've done been Shapiro. I've been on a lot of big 771 01:03:05.360 --> 01:03:09.000 podcasts. I'd like to be on more. I think the best way for 772 01:03:09.159 --> 01:03:14.119 you guys to help me get on more of these podcasts. I'd like to 773 01:03:14.159 --> 01:03:17.199 be again on Patrick, I'd like to be again on on other you know, 774 01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:22.480 on some of the bigger, even bigger platforms. The best way for 775 01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:25.840 that to happen. Dave Ruben, Michael Malice all the I mean, Michael 776 01:03:25.840 --> 01:03:29.000 Mouse, I don't think he added much to me. You didn't see a 777 01:03:29.079 --> 01:03:32.480 real bump in terms of subscribers, is you guys right? You guys. 778 01:03:32.719 --> 01:03:36.719 The way I got on Ruben is a bunch of people went on Ruben and 779 01:03:36.760 --> 01:03:38.960 said, hey, you should interview you on Brook and then he interviewed me 780 01:03:39.039 --> 01:03:42.199 once, and he interviewed me a few times after that. The way Lex 781 01:03:42.599 --> 01:03:46.239 did it is he'd been following my podcast. He still shows up once in 782 01:03:46.280 --> 01:03:51.239 a while over here in the chat um. That's how I've got all of 783 01:03:51.280 --> 01:03:54.400 them. It's either you guys have urged them or they have known about me 784 01:03:54.480 --> 01:03:59.079 for one one way or the other through something that I've done to talk. 785 01:03:59.159 --> 01:04:02.960 I've given a viable video that's gone. I've tried to get ontogonometry. They 786 01:04:03.079 --> 01:04:09.679 kind of said that they weren't available when I wanted to do it, and 787 01:04:10.159 --> 01:04:13.840 so I keep trying every time I'm in London to get ontogonometry. But you 788 01:04:13.880 --> 01:04:16.000 should let them know that they should have me on. I mean, the 789 01:04:16.239 --> 01:04:25.199 number one way in which I will get on people's shows is if you they're 790 01:04:26.360 --> 01:04:30.000 customers. If you will their supporters, their audience, tell them, hey, 791 01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:33.840 we'd really like you to interview it you're on book, and not just 792 01:04:33.960 --> 01:04:40.800 do it once, but do it regularly so that they know there's real passion 793 01:04:40.920 --> 01:04:45.280 here. And I don't see a lot of my audience doing that. A 794 01:04:45.320 --> 01:04:49.760 few of you do it, and I really appreciate that, but do it 795 01:04:49.880 --> 01:04:56.719 consistently. Do you know large numbers of you? You know the thousand people 796 01:04:56.960 --> 01:04:59.840 or fifteen hundred people are gonna watch this video. It would be great if 797 01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:03.800 single one of you did it. All right, we are still looking for 798 01:05:03.920 --> 01:05:09.000 five dollars from everybody hasn't done anything on the super check yet was still four 799 01:05:09.119 --> 01:05:13.679 hundred and fifty dollars short. So please consider providing some support. Catherine, 800 01:05:13.719 --> 01:05:16.840 A way are you? I don't know what's going on. People are ignoring 801 01:05:16.920 --> 01:05:21.880 you today, ignoring you completely, all right, Catherine's going to be very 802 01:05:21.960 --> 01:05:29.480 sad. Friend of Harber says, egoism being the beneficiary of your own action 803 01:05:30.079 --> 01:05:35.239 irrational. Egoism to me is having an irrational standard of what it is a 804 01:05:35.400 --> 01:05:44.440 benefit to oneself, but benefit from oneself is an objective standard. Benefit oneself 805 01:05:44.599 --> 01:05:51.199 is not whatever benefit oneself benefit means something. Self means something. So if 806 01:05:51.239 --> 01:05:56.639 I do something and I die and I say, whoops, you know that 807 01:05:56.800 --> 01:05:59.519 was irrational benefit to myself. No, I mean it didn't benefit you. 808 01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:05.800 He heard you so um made off. Didn't even think he was benefiting. 809 01:06:06.400 --> 01:06:12.280 He didn't think And even if he didn't think he was benefiting, he was 810 01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:16.760 wrong, and he was wrong. Not in a subtle way, he was 811 01:06:16.800 --> 01:06:21.559 wrong, big time. He was wrong through evasion. There's no way he 812 01:06:21.880 --> 01:06:27.719 really could think about it and come to the conclusion that this was good for 813 01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:36.400 him. So no, I think it's very, very dangerous to associate in 814 01:06:36.519 --> 01:06:45.519 any way benefiting of your own action with something that clearly irrationality does not benefit 815 01:06:45.599 --> 01:06:56.599 your own action. That's just a it's inconsistent those two. All right, 816 01:06:57.599 --> 01:07:01.599 We've got a few more five and ten dollars questions. If you want to 817 01:07:01.599 --> 01:07:04.880 ask a question, now make it a twenty dollars. I'm starting to have 818 01:07:04.920 --> 01:07:11.599 a feeling that, like what you guys are questioned out that that's uh, 819 01:07:12.360 --> 01:07:14.960 you know, there are no more questions for me to answer in the world. 820 01:07:19.039 --> 01:07:24.440 That's right. I mean, you know, this is the kind of 821 01:07:24.519 --> 01:07:27.639 topic. If Action Jackson tells me a topic and then I can't raise any 822 01:07:27.639 --> 01:07:30.519 super chat, then I go, God, you're just you're just killing me 823 01:07:30.760 --> 01:07:35.000 action Jackson. If I'd Donna show one, you know, on Trump and 824 01:07:35.079 --> 01:07:41.679 Putin, I would have raised six hundred and fifty dollars like that? All 825 01:07:41.760 --> 01:07:45.360 right? Taz says, it's nearly made. Can you believe it? I 826 01:07:45.440 --> 01:07:48.320 can't actually so much to do, so many plans to execute. Absolutely, 827 01:07:48.719 --> 01:07:56.280 it's the year is just push passing quickly. Hopacampbell, thank you. Michael 828 01:07:56.360 --> 01:07:59.679 says, do you think it makes people uncomfortable that nine rand was right about 829 01:07:59.679 --> 01:08:03.559 everything? They can't accept the one person originated all these profound truths? No? 830 01:08:03.840 --> 01:08:09.679 I mean, I some people I think made uncomfortable with that. But 831 01:08:09.800 --> 01:08:13.880 but no, I think most people just don't accept that their truths. If 832 01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:17.920 they if they accepted that their truths, we'd be way ahead and then we 833 01:08:17.960 --> 01:08:21.960 could deal with the discomfort. They don't accept them as truth. It's not 834 01:08:23.119 --> 01:08:27.920 like these truths are obvious and they go, oh, but one person. 835 01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:31.600 Nah. No, the truths are not obvious and they don't accept them. 836 01:08:34.239 --> 01:08:38.840 Liam says, no one thinks about individual rights. They think about the outcome 837 01:08:39.000 --> 01:08:45.199 they desire. It's pure narcissism. Yes, And it's in that sense it's 838 01:08:45.239 --> 01:08:54.239 a self less strategy because it leads to bad outcomes for self. You know, 839 01:08:54.279 --> 01:08:59.800 it's other people are never the standard. It's always about negating self. 840 01:09:00.359 --> 01:09:03.399 I gave you. I give that example of my morality of capitalism. Talk. 841 01:09:03.880 --> 01:09:10.039 If the standards other people businessmen would be heroes. But the standards not 842 01:09:10.159 --> 01:09:15.920 other people. The standard is your own suffering. The standards being self less. 843 01:09:16.640 --> 01:09:19.720 And as Patrick Navitch said, I think it's just to follow me. 844 01:09:19.840 --> 01:09:33.039 Very few people are actually selfless. Nobody's actually really fully completely selfless. There's 845 01:09:33.079 --> 01:09:39.439 a typo some way, he said. All right, Al says, these 846 01:09:39.520 --> 01:09:43.960 are the same people who believe that sacrifice is about giving something up for something 847 01:09:44.039 --> 01:09:47.600 better. Yes, the Jordan Peterson's of the world, the sacrifice somehow becomes 848 01:09:47.680 --> 01:09:53.359 investment. No investments, investment sacrifice, sacrifice. Sacrifice is a net loss. 849 01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:56.880 That's the whole point. That's what makes it a sacrifice. Investment is 850 01:09:56.880 --> 01:10:08.840 a net gain. See action Jackson. Nobody really cares about about you asking 851 01:10:08.880 --> 01:10:14.920 them to do super jets. Sad reality. All right, Tim says, 852 01:10:15.039 --> 01:10:16.600 keep up the good work you're on. You're an inspiration. Appreciate that. 853 01:10:16.760 --> 01:10:20.479 Thank you, Daniel says, has anyone mentioned to you on about Elon Musk 854 01:10:20.520 --> 01:10:25.760 responded, Iron RAN's tweets go you and yes I saw that. He responded 855 01:10:25.880 --> 01:10:28.279 by saying, yeah, I Rand was right, but so is Oh well, 856 01:10:28.439 --> 01:10:31.520 so was Huxley. And it's all coming together. All three of them 857 01:10:31.560 --> 01:10:38.039 were right. It's all coming together right now. Yeah, yeah, he's 858 01:10:38.119 --> 01:10:40.479 right, Iron Ran. There's no question Elon Musk is right. Ran. 859 01:10:40.560 --> 01:10:45.359 All right, thank you everybody. I am I have to admit a little 860 01:10:45.439 --> 01:10:51.239 concerned about the inability to raise to raise the six hundred and fifty dollars. 861 01:10:51.760 --> 01:10:59.199 Usually we at least make get close, we get semi close, but we 862 01:10:59.279 --> 01:11:03.039 didn't even get close tonight. So, um, I am concerned. Maybe 863 01:11:03.079 --> 01:11:06.720 it's because it's Sunday night. Maybe because we've had so many shows one after 864 01:11:06.840 --> 01:11:12.079 the other. I am not sure. We didn't even make the two hundred 865 01:11:12.079 --> 01:11:16.159 and fifty dollars for the for the for the news shows that you know that 866 01:11:16.800 --> 01:11:21.840 we do on a daily basis. So uh, that is uh, that 867 01:11:23.119 --> 01:11:27.399 is uh concerning, let's say concerning. And it was a great topic. 868 01:11:27.520 --> 01:11:30.880 Yess actually, Jackson, it actually was a great topic. Well, we 869 01:11:30.920 --> 01:11:32.720 didn't get any of the whales here, obviously, we didn't get any of 870 01:11:32.760 --> 01:11:38.159 the people who can write or who are happy to write one hundred dollars or 871 01:11:39.199 --> 01:11:44.359 five hundred dollars or stuff like that, UH to UH to get us over 872 01:11:44.439 --> 01:11:49.800 the top as often happens. Yes, we need many many more people to 873 01:11:50.199 --> 01:11:56.319 UH, to follow you on book show and to participates in in the live 874 01:11:56.359 --> 01:12:00.600 shows, but nowhere else today. Maybe we'll get them tomorrow. So tomorrow 875 01:12:00.720 --> 01:12:04.600 we'll have noon and one o'clock we'll do our news round up. We'll do 876 01:12:04.680 --> 01:12:08.680 the same thing on Tuesday. I'm not sure if I'll be able to do 877 01:12:08.720 --> 01:12:14.159 a show tomorrow night. We'll see. I will try, but no guarantees. 878 01:12:14.800 --> 01:12:19.479 And but we definitely will do UM Monday and tuesdays the news shows. 879 01:12:19.560 --> 01:12:23.399 All right, everybody, don't forget to like the show before you leave. 880 01:12:23.479 --> 01:12:27.000 We had well of one hundred people watching live, so there should be a 881 01:12:27.159 --> 01:12:30.960 hundred thumbs up over there. So I'm not sure. I'm not sure why 882 01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:34.479 we don't have John. Thank you, thank you for for additional support. 883 01:12:34.600 --> 01:12:42.119 I appreciate that. Thanks everybody. I will see you all tomorrow. Bye.