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We're back with another edition of the
Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Jordan Boyd,

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to staff writer here at the Federalist. As always, you can email the

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LST, make sure to subscribe wherever
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to the premium version of our website
as well. I'm joined today by Matt

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Kittle, our senior elections correspondent at
The Federalist and a voice loyal listeners will

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get well acquainted with in upcoming weeks. Matt, welcome to the program.

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Well, thank you for having me. And I've enjoyed this podcast for a

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long time because I think it embodies
everything that is the Federalist. Yes,

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we're so glad you're here, and
it's so fun to see the evolution of

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people who listened to the podcast now
becoming what is going to be our temporary

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host of the podcast. So,
and if I'm not mistaken, you officially

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joined the Federalist Elections team at the
beginning of this year, but you had

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been writing for us for quite a
time before that as a contributor. Is

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that right? That is absolutely right. Yes, I've been a Federalist loiter

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for some time, and then had
the great opportunity very blessed to have been

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able to join the Federalist at the
first of the year in what I think

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is just an outstanding and absolutely vital
team of reporters election coverage, election integrity

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coverage, more so particularly going into
this critical election year. But yeah,

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I wrote for The Federalist for years
in different capacities at different news organizations as

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a freelance reporter, and good fortune
to get to know a lot of the

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folks of the Federalists before I joined
in January. Yes, and we got

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the great pleasure of getting to know
you even better when we all went to

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staff retreat about a month ago.
So it's just been a fun time.

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I think your official bio on our
website both thirty years of what is said

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to be award winning print, broadcast
and online media experience. Can you tell

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us a little bit more about how
you joined the chaotic world of political journalism.

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Yes, like me, that bio
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I've been doing it longer than that, I'm afraid at this point. I

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started out as a sixteen year old
snot nosed kid in a log cabin radio

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station, just as Lincoln did back
in the latter nineteen eighties. That's really

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dating me. I think I started
in radio when Dookie Houser was on the

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air, if that puts things in
perspective. But yeah, I started out

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doing news and obituaries and sports reporting
and all kinds of different things at my

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local radio station. From there,
I guess at that point what I really

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wanted to be sixteen seventeen years old. I wanted to be the next Rush

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Limbaugh, and Rush had no worries
of me being his doppel ganger, that's

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for sure. But I have enjoyed
a very long radio and a journalistic career.

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I got involved in radio reporting,
of course, very early on.

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That transitioned over to the world of
newspapers, and so I served as an

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investigative reporter for a long time in
print and then as the world. Of

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course, as you know, Jordan
as well as anybody, the world of

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journalism has changed dramatically over the last
twenty five years with the advent of the

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device that al Gore claims that he
invented the Internet, and so everything has

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become digital. Everything has become so
much more diversified, and there are so

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many different ways of getting information out
there, and that leads us right back

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to the Federalist and the important role
that the Federalist plays in terms of making,

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investigating, and going after in particular
government agencies that want to suppress that

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information. That's the brave new world
in which we live now. Absolutely,

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and you are just really intimately familiar
with all of these suppression campaigns, especially

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with your work election integrity. And
I know you're based in the Midwest and

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do it a lot of reporting out
of one of our favorite states here at

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the Federalist, and that is Wisconsin. So i'd love to hear Matt what

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kind of projects you've been working on
for the Federalist and why our listeners should

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care. I mean, election integrity
is a huge thing, but it became

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even bigger in twenty twenty, you
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and I just love to hear from
you sort of how you approached that world

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and then what kind of news has
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it's interesting, Jordan, because life
is full circle. I remember more

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than a decade ago reporting in Wisconsin
as a bureau chief in Madison on what

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was at that time known as the
infamous John Doe investigations. And for those

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unfamiliar with this very dark chapter in
Wisconsin history, basically we had is Democrat,

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very highly partisan Democrat prosecutors in Milwaukee
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County where Madison is located, and
they were working alongside a very crooked and

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corrupt government accountability board. They were
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law, and what they did is
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raided the homes of conservative activists,
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if you will, all in the
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who might remember, was very instrumental
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in Wisconsin when he was first elected
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at the public sector level that really
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you know anything about big labor,
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like that kind of thing. And
so they threw everything they had at Scott

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Walker and the conservatives in the legislature
who reformed the laws that included everything from

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recalls and what have you, but
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these bureaucracies and these prosecutors, and
pre dawn armed raids on the homes of

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conservatives. In one case, I
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police knocking on the door before sunrise
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son was and he was forced to
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said anything about the raid, he
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go to jail. It was just
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down by the Wisconsin Supreme Court.
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is how the judge in that case, the justice in that case, had

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written the ruling. But it's interesting
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about all of that, because what
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Tiffany from Wisconsin seventh Congressional District told
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when Donald Trump became the President of
the United States, he said,

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Matt, what you saw in the
John Doe investigations in Wisconsin is about to

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be writ large nationally, and there
has been no more prescient statement from a

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lawmaker, certainly than what Tom Tiffany
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And obviously the Federalist over the last
several years has been reporting on the

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government abuse of power to weaponize the
government to go after political enemies. Started

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in Wisconsin, and interestingly enough,
as a swing state, it's coming back

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to Wisconsin. That's so fascinating to
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I came to the Federalist, I
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I didn't live. Yeah, I
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didn't really know anything about Wisconsin other
than the stereotypical cheese thing. And I

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come to the Federalist and half of
our staff is from Wisconsin, and all

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of a sudden, a ton of
our reporting is concentrated in this very,

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very important state. And like I
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intensified greatly. And one of the
biggest explosions I think on our site,

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and some of the most important reporting
that we've done and that you've continued,

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has been on Biden Bucks. So
I'd love to just hear your overview for

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our listeners. Maybe you haven't tuned
in as of late. What are biden

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Bucks? Why did they matter in
twenty twenty and what's happening with them in

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twenty twenty four. Yeah, it's
very biden Bucks if you take a look

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back. And the reason it's called
biden Bucks is it is a nod to

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what is commonly referred to as zucker
or Zuckbucks. And you remember how that

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played a significant role the hundreds of
millions of dollars from Facebook founder and conservative

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suppressor, conservative speech suppressor Mark Zuckerberg, total of something like four hundred million

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dollars that he dropped in on so
called election administration grants. But basically what

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it turned out to be was money
that was targeted for get out the vote

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efforts, particularly in the swing states, to elect Joe Biden at that time.

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So when Joe Biden first got into
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of business was to take Zuckerbucks and
how successful that was and transform that into

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an entire federal operation. And so
basically what you have is an executive order

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that ordered the federal agencies, and
we believe all of them, not all

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of them, most of them to
run voter registration operations to work with state

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agencies on this, and groups that
were approved by the White House, third

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party left wing groups clearly approved by
the White House, and that they would

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run get out the vote efforts basically
to help re elect Joe Biden. That's

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where we're at right now. There
have been some very dedicated election integrity organizations

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trying to get to the bottom of
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But really what it is is,
I believe star At Whitson from the

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Foundation for Government Accountability has called this
Zuckerbucks zuck Bucks on steroids. Biden Bucks

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does basically, you have your tax
dollars untold amounts. Congress doesn't even know

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how much money is involved that have
been directed to operate voter registration activities that

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is not the domain of the federal
government. And now there is a lawsuit

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that is before the Supreme Court that
challenges biden Bucks, and of course the

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Federalist has reported on that and will
continue to report on those efforts as well

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as biden Bucks in general moving forward. This is Pastor Matthew Harrison, President

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of the Lutheran Church Missouri Senate,
the LCMS operates the second largest parochial school

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system in the United States. What
can you expect from a Lutheran Church Missouri

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Senate School. There's one race,
the human, and Jesus died for the

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sins of every man, woman,
and child from every land and every nation.

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Life begins a conception. All life
is precious, from womb to tomb,

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and every student, parent and teacher
is created in the very image of

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God. There's right and wrong,
and we know which is which from the

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Ten Commandments. There are only two
sexes, male and female. He created

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them. Marriage is the lifelong union
of one man and one woman. There's

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such a thing as objective, absolute
truth, and it's found in the person

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and work of Jesus Christ and his
word. To find a Lutheran Church Missouri

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Sentis School near you, visit LCMS
dot org slash schools. It's so crazy

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to me, and it's it's insane
that you have an administration and a president

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that came in and boasted unity and
transparency and then pulls the craziest stunts that

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this need has ever seen. And
one of those, obviously this last week

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was the law fair conviction of former
President Donald Trump, and we had a

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piece from our legal correspondent Margot Cleveland
talking about how Biden's fingers were all over

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that pie. And I think it
just goes to show that there are not

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many people out there who are doing
the work on exposing the corruption that has

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clinched our country. You had a
hilarious piece this last week called you might

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be living in a Banana Republic if
and I'd love to just hear some of

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your satirical but also serious takes on
what that conviction and what the ongoing law

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fair and the attempts to weaponize the
government against Americans has had on our country.

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Yeah. I mean, I don't
know about you, but after Thursday,

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the verdict on that dark Thursday came
in where the Manhattan Kangaroo Court,

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the jury came down with thirty four
counts, all guilty against former President Donald

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Trump and the GOP's nominee for president
by the way, going up against Joe

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Biden. All of those counts came
down as guilty in a massively what was

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it called, I think Jonathan Turley
called it Frankensteinian charges. They had to

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manipulate and massage the state book keeping
error, so to speak, into a

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federal campaign and election interference charge,
which of course is the phrase that pays

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for the militant left out there,
the Trump hating militant left. But I

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couldn't help after knowing what I know
what the Federalist has reported, and other

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news organizations that aren't asleep at the
wheel or really care about this country have

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reported on, you know, just
how conflicted this judge was, and you

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know, the process was, and
the fact that we had you know,

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Biden DOJ officials, you know,
leaving their post to work on this case.

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I mean, it's just absolutely amazing. And I couldn't help but think,

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did I just wake up in a
Banana Republic? And so I thought

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I put together a top ten piece, if you will, top ten signs

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that you are now living in a
Banana Republic? And I kind of looked

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at it as well through the old
Jeff Foxworthy lens. You know, you

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might be a redneck if, but
in this case, it was you might

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be living in a Banana Republic if
And some of those top ten you can

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of course find the piece on the
Federalist, but you know, at one

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of the top ten, perhaps my
favorite is I think it was maybe number

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three on the list and it said
you might be a sign that you might

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be living in a Banana Republic is
the judge instructs you to point to where

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Donald Trump hurt your feelings. I
think that really underscores what the left drive

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in America is all about. You
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if the prosecutor has Act Blue tattooed
on his backside. Again, you can

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find the complete list at the Federalist. That's great. I think you can

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see it, not just in the
law fair, but I'm sure you saw

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the news from Merrick Garland testifying in
a congressional hearing about how you know he's

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the victim. No one that he's
politically targeted, or that the uj R

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FBI has gone after like pro lifers
or Grandma's who had to set foot near

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the Capitol on January sixth. You
know he's the victim. The DOJ and

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FBI employees receiving threat are the victims. And of course there hasn't been a

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whole lot of actual evidence that the
DOJ is hurting because they've started launching political

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campaigns on people other than public trust
in that institution has completely waned, I

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mean just tanked and I think we're
seeing that across the board and Americans trust

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in our institutions as we know them
has completely floundered. And this is going

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to be a huge question for you, Matt, But is there any way

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that you think that that trust can
be restored? And if so, what

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is the solution. The solution is
transparency. I mean it's election integrity.

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I mean real election integrity and not
just you know, this phony stuff that's

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coming out of the left, in
particular in Washington, DC. And let's

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face it, there are some on
the right who have cooperated with this bogus

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narrative of election deniers. Most people
I know, and we see the polling,

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the vast majority of Americans do have
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and their right to have concerns.
You can't have election integrity if you are

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running a nationalized, federalized get out
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That's going to erode election integrity,
a confidence in elections, that's for

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sure. And even if you can't
point to this is voter fraud over here

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or you know, something tangible,
the perception is really the big problem.

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Now, there are definitely there's definitely
acts of fraud going on out there,

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don't get me wrong, But you
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we run perfect elections and you shouldn't
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We've got this. Don't worry when
you have leftist organizations, as we

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reported on it, the federalist that
were embedded in election administration offices in major

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cities in swing states that ultimately decide
the election. That's exactly what happened with

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Zuckerbucks in twenty twenty. I reported
extensively for this publication on what was happening

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in Green Bay where you had a
longtime Democrat activist who was working in the

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election administration office, the clerk's office
in Green Bay, Wisconsin. According to

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emails that we have obtained, this
is someone who had offered to and we

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don't know, we're pretty confident that
it was fully elle out, but offered

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to correct or cure ballot envelopes.
This is a guy who had keys to

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the absentee ballot boxes, to the
room where the absentee ballot boxes were stored.

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You know, you can't scream election
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No wonder Americans have so little faith
in their the integrity of their elections.

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So to your point, and to
answer your question fully, it's going

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to take complete transparency. It is
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id making sure that non citizens are
not voting in our elections. That's not

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too much to ask, you know, basic things like cleaning up our voter

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roles. We have so many problems
with that. That's just an open door

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to election fraud. They're basic things
that have to happen. But unfortunately,

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there's so much resistance from the left
in this country because election integrity to them

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equals a denial of access to people
they want to vote but who are not

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eligible to vote, and therein lies
the problem. Your point about the election

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denialism quote unquote reminds me of another
big push of propaganda by corporate media and

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even, like you said, some
Democrats and Republicans, and that's this fake

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elector's scheme which we heard a lot
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but it's sort of resurrected or really
never gone away. Could you tell

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us a little bit more about this
fake elector's scheme? What Democrats or how

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Democrats are weaponizing it to advance their
attack on the twenty twenty four election,

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and how it can be stopped,
how you know, it can be curbed

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to where we're not concerned about this
rampant election propaganda from the left. Yeah,

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the scheme really is the narrative that
this was a fake elector scheme.

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That's really what it boils down to. And you have leftist prosecutors in that

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can that are in control in swing
states doing this in particular Wisconsin was the

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latest report, and we reported on
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what it boils down to is in
twenty twenty, there were a lot of

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legitimate questions about the vote tallies in
these states in particular, and Donald Trump's

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campaign, along with conservative legal officials, conservative attorneys, and conservative activists came

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up with a plan that involved alternate
electors. They wanted to be available if

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changes occurred, for instance, in
Wisconsin, if a recount in both Madison

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and Milwaukee came back to show that
Donald Trump actually won the election. If

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lawsuits, and there were many came
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yes, indeed, you won this
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state they wanted to make sure that
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And so that has been crafted by
the lawfair left and their friends in

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the accomplice media as some kind of
attempt to overthrow the twenty twenty election and

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the rightful winner of that election,
Joe Biden. But what it really is

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is it is again more lawfare,
more ways to go after Donald Trump directly

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and indirectly by targeting the people who
supported him and said, wait a minute,

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there are all kinds of irregularities in
this election. We want to make

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sure if courts find that Donald Trump
actually won, we want to make sure

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that we preserve his electors as part
of the constitutional process. And so what

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we have here in the state of
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I mean it is there is no
doubt about the political ramifications from this.

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You have a far left attorney general
in Josh call whose very own Department

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of Justice several months ago said there
was no crime here as they made a

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recommendation. The Wisconsin Elections Commission said
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they had said that this was not
a crime. And yet the Department

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of Justice, the head of the
Wisconsin Department of Justice in Josh Call comes

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back months later, right after the
Manhattan Kangaroo Court comes down with a guilty

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verdict in the trumped up charges there
against Donald Trump and files counts of election

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fraud in this case. I mean, if that doesn't tell you what's going

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on in America with the law fair
left, I don't know what does.

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And it's even more ironic when you
know, we all have short term memories

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because so much has happened in the
last four years, six years, you

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know whatever. But Hillary Clinton and
Democrats urged electors to vote against Trump in

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the twenty sixteen election. They were
like, they pushed the Russian inclusion hoax

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as the reason for these electors to
do exactly what they've been criticizing Republicans for

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not even accomplishing in the twenty twenty
election. It's just massively hypocritical, or,

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as we like to say at the
Federalist, there's no such thing as

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hypocrisy. There's hierarchy, and the
people who control the systems are the ones

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who are making these decisions. So
it's all very interesting. What's interesting,

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too, is that Hillary Clinton's campaign
advised doing that in sixteen. The Kennedy

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campaign in nineteen sixty actually did that
in Hawaii. They did exactly what these

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electors who are charged with election fraud
and insurrection and trying to overturn an election,

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they did exactly that in the nineteen
sixty election Nixon versus Kennedy, to

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make sure that they had their electors
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was such a narrow election. So
point back to the past. This is

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not something that came out of thin
air. This is something that Democrats have

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done. And yet we have all
kinds of people in this country who were

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trying to do the right thing with
the information that they had at the time,

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and now you know they are insurrectionist
in the eyes of the lawfair Left.

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I love that you keep calling them
the lawfair left. I love alliteration,

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and so it just flows so well
and it's so accurate. As I

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teased at the beginning of this episode, Matt, you're going to be recording

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quite a few episodes for Federalist Radio
Hour in the coming weeks, and i'd

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love to hear from you what kind
of guests you're thinking about having on what

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your vision is, and maybe what
listeners can expect from your conversations. Well,

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I'm an election integrity geek, as
you know Jordan by now, and

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so you can expect more of these
kinds of conversations with experts in the field,

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people who are doing yeomen's work every
day to make sure indeed that our

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elections have integrity. But you know, this podcast is filled with all kinds

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of different voices. That's why I
love it so much. So we will

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have just a s'morgus bort of guests
from all different walks of life and perspectives

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in the liberty movement, of course, and we will get to the bottom

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of some stories with some very interesting
perspectives. I'm looking forward because of exactly

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what we talked about a conversation we
have scheduled with Brian Shimming, who is

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the chairman of the Wisconsin Republican Party. He is responsible for putting together the

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biggest party of twenty twenty four that
Republicans will have for four years, and

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it all takes place in Milwaukee.
Of course, it's the Republican National commit

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National Convention. That's where Donald Trump
will be nominated, of course, if

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he's not in prison before then,
because as we know, Judge Juan Murshan,

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the Manhattan Kangaroo Court efficient has decided
he is going to hold sentencing for

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the guilty charges guilty counts against Donald
Trump, four days before this convention begins,

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So we will talk about that.
What it takes to put on a

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convention and the security surrounding it.
That's another I think a huge concern,

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not only for Milwaukee and for Republicans, but in particular in Chicago for the

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Democrats for their convention coming up a
little bit later in the summer. Well,

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I know we're all looking forward to
it, and Matt, it's been

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great to chat with you. We
can't wait to hear more from you in

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the coming weeks, and I think
this has been a great conversation. So

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we're really looking forward to the future
with you as our temporary host. Well,

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I am honored to fill in that
role. As you know, we

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do a lot of different things at
the Federalist because there's always something that needs

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to be reported on. There's always
something that we need to engage our readers

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or alert our readers to, So
this is a great vehicle to do that

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and I am exceptionally proud that I've
been tapped to fill in here. For

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a while. Well, like I
said, Matt is our senior elections correspondent

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and will be the voice of Federalist
Radio Hour going forward. You've been listening

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to another edition of the Federalist Radio
Hour. I'm Jordan Boyd. We'll be

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back soon with more. Until then, be lovers of freedom and anxious but afraid right