Yo, what's going on? Everybody? Welcome to a new episode of My
Candic Cast, and I'm Candid Dave. Yeah, I'm grooving. On today's
episode. We have a special guest joining us. Uh goes by Mike Canna
Basti, and it's gonna be a different type of interview today, groovies.
She's got coming on and asking us some questions against some insight into the industry,
and we're gonna be talking about some stuff she has going on. So
welcome, Hello, thank you for joining us. Yeah, welcome to the
party. So let's get some background about you, my cannabis. Uh,
do you smoke cannabis? Are you working in the industry at all? Have
you been in the industry previous? Yeah? What made you find us?
Great question? I have smoked cannabis since I was in high school and it's
just always been something in my life and a lot of my exes are involved
in it, so it's always kept me in all right, So that's what
bright you to the industry? Ah? Yes, actually no, I would
say probably my Saint Bernard getting sick. We didn't really know what to give
her and she could barely walk because she was a puppy mill dog. She
was a rescue, so I started her giving that's horrible, puppy mills man,
that's just horrible. Well, and the girl got her from the mall
and then returned her because she was growing up too. That's sad. That's
sad. No, they're big, they get big quick, I really do.
So I started giving her RSO and it would she would run around like
a puppy again. So yeah, I just started doing research behind the science
of it. And that's where I like to like have all my fun as
researching and learning more and the medical side of it. Absolutely, absolutely,
that's awesome. I mean, like there's a million things that take in the
industry. So I actually find it very fascinating that it was your dog like
that that brought you over to the RSO. But I mean I give,
like I give kilos some CBD stuff, so it could definitely help Molly gets
it, Yep, I give Molly CBD. Actually, remember my neighbor back
in the day, he had the little dog, and I give him CBD
if he was limping and stuff, and he actually prolonged his life like another
year and a half. Daniel's dog. Oh I didn't remember that, yea,
So it's like, that's what it's crazy. Cannabis can help, not
just thoughts, I can help uh even our best free friends. So it's
because it's a magical plan. Yeah. But yeah, let's let's get into
some of those questions you wanted to talk about, all right, So I
thought it would be fun. We're getting interviewed you guys. Yeah, I
like it because you're always asking the questions and it's good to know about you
guys in your opinions. So I made a list. I went into some
of the female cannabis groups on there, and I think there's a disconnect with
men and women in cannabis, and women sometimes don't want to ask questions or
it's frowned upon because it's a stupid question to them. So I collected a
bunch of questions from people or women and awesome, No, I really appreciate
that because I feel like, I mean, even like the medical rack side,
there's sometimes there's a divide. So for me, it's like, I
feel like there is somewhat a little divide between the female and male people in
cannabis, but there shouldn't be, Like we need to build more bridges.
So I'm glad you came up with this idea and no questions are stupid either,
So let's hear them all right, What is the best way to start
consuming cannabis for a newbie? Okay, okay, So this for me personally,
I think it's easiest is to go with a bowl because it's the easiest
to figure out. You don't got to roll anything, even a bong,
there's certain you know, you gotta make sure the water's right. You gotta
hit it right, otherwise you know, you could get way too high.
I think it be clear too big of a bong. So like for me,
I really was happy starting with the bowl. You know, I mean
chill thems are great and you know if you ever seen those like wood packers,
like the really small chill them like the dugouts, Yeah, the dugouts
right, So that's how I started. But like bowls to me, is
that perfect, Like you get used to learning how to like not learning,
but getting used to that muscle memory of breaking it up, packing it and
then learning how to hit it. Because you ever share a bowl with someone
and they just light the whole thing, it's like learn how to light that
shit, no what I'm saying. And learned how to light that, because
like that's I feel like that goes a long way. So I feel like
a bowl would be your best way to do it. If it was like,
that's what I would recommend going backwards, if you're starting off with flour,
Yeah, I would have proud gree with you on that groovy because it
took me a while to learn how to ro it's honestly, I just remember
the only reas why I learned how to role joints because we like an ounce
on us and I would just be they you keep looking at me and you
go off mikes. Oh sorry, you guy to talk to me. I
hear you rolling the joints. It takes time and practice. You're gonna be
using up a lot of weed and you'll probably lose weed. And it's just
a hassle, quick easy, grind up some weed, put in a bowl.
Light it. Actually, I like a ball start how'd you start?
Because I was obsession bulls. I literally walked around with bowls in my podcast
with Love my Bow. I brought it to my bar backing job. Allegedly
mine was mine was a bowl, the little medal bowl they put the screen
in and then the seconds that I mean, I don't know, that's what
they're me and I liked it. I remember those so that was my first
time. I mean honestly those vapes nowadays too. If you're a vapor,
I think that it's pretty easy. You just pick up a pen and a
cart and you're good to go. It's a real modern way. Yeah,
definitely, especially if you're used to vaping, like during my little sister,
she's like a decade younger than me, and she's like, she just tried
it a little bit. So she tried vaping because she's vapes already. It's
comfortable. But I don't feel like, don't jump in the dabs. I
wouldn't jump in the dabs. And I only say that because the question was
smoking weed. If you want to try getting high for the first time,
I think edibles, like on the very low dosage can sometimes be cool because
people are used to drinking and eating where smoking is. Sometimes people don't like
smoking, yeah, but if you like smoking bowls, yeah. How should
someone new to cannabis decide on a strain or which should they go off the
recommendation of the bud tender at the dispensary. So I mean, I definitely
think that the bud tender will know, especially to a newbie, like they
will know a little bit more, they will know they'll be able to guide
you in the right direction. But I think until you like really smoked the
play and get to know it and know how it affects you, it's kind
of hard to say. You know, it's a guessing game, you know.
Like I always thought that for me, I was gonna of the head
highs, like I was gonna love that keep me up. But I as
a hyper person, I started getting away from those because it was just all
over. So I love the like the down body buzz type of vibes,
you know. So I think the best thing to do just ease yourself into
it, try something, start smoking it, and then like oh if I
didn't like that Turpin didn't like the end, because you can start guiding your
way to the correct cannabis for you because there's so many different types. And
I truly think that, like, you gotta find the one that works best
for you. And I think trial error is the best preacher man, you
know what I mean, Like, what do you you know? It's it's
it's difficult to it's difficult to go off like a buddy's opinion, because,
like you said, each strain affects everybody differently. I've been like digging some
more of a lemon uplifting terps right while you might be wanting the down down
or stuck in the couch. Like I call him relaxing because I don't get
stuck, but I call him relaxing. Yeah, you know what I mean,
because I like the down vibe feeling. So yeah, I'm a So
I would go the recommendation of the butt tender, or do some research,
maybe going to Google and ask what you're looking for or flavor you're looking for,
and see what strings pop up, and then see if the dispo has
them. Also, if you do get a strain and it's by somebody and
they don't and you don't like it, you might like it from somebody else
because each string grown differently is completely different than I was. If I grew
a strain or you grew a strain, and you grew a strain, that
strain would probably be different, all based on our methods. So you might
like to strain by somebody else. Then my friend, his friend just came
to Michigan to get a strain because it's not the same in Colorado. Oh
no, I mean absolutely, Yeah. Every phenotype is different. Yeah,
every cutting, every genetic you get then has each pheno type depending on how
it's grown, if any it's taken care of, so they all end up
very different. Yeah, it's it's pretty remarkable. That's why I like it
really. Try on air is the best because I mean, how many times
have I smoked one type of bud and then I didn't like it? Some
other buds? So it's like you just gotta try it. Yeah, tryal
their I like that growing. What is your favorite brand for flower, concentrates,
edibles, all that stuff? Like, oh, for everything? Okay,
like overall or if you are like I really like the sedible Okay,
well we think we should kind of take that per category because I get that
was that was a lot. Start with concentrates. We'll start with concentrates.
There's a couple of great brands that I really like right now. First I'm
to kickoff with Fifth Age. Josh, there's a phenomenal work over there.
Yeah, that stuffs really good. It's a little bit You're getting quality every
time. It just depends on what dispo you're at for a price, point.
If you're looking for something that's a lower price point. We've had what
was it recently? Sozo has some okay stuff, very very great bang for
your we're just talking on the market then, like legal shelves, right,
okay, Yeah, because I was gonna say cool, because I mean,
like listen, you know, I come from the caregiver market. I always
support them. I mean they are a little bit harder. Turb farms,
got farms, got fire. They actually, yeah, shout out that that
rsleven was gas. So if we're talking just on the shelves, I shout
out to homies, old school orchanics. Am I a loud fire, Emerald
Fire, Emerald fire always gives you the best value. Am I A loud
flower has got some of the best of scriptions. They're here in old school,
Like he's bringing back some of these old school strains that like, I
mean, just shout out partners. But I have to because we wouldn't be
working with sour diesel headband og Kush prename gay Bubba no Bubba. As far
as concentrates go, though, I like Fifth Age. I do like North
Coast. They make good stuff with Travis does good work over there. Everyone's
been talking about East Side Alchemy. I enjoyed their ship the one time I
tried it had one. Yeah, it's pretty good. There's so many as
if you're gonna go for value though those are all just Rosin. I just
realize if we're gonna go for value, I think the best value would probably
be like True North was good stuff too. They have some good stuff.
I like their vapes too, yet some good vapes. The station cultivation cart
you had recently was pretty solid. See this was like, this is just
concentrates flower school, I would have to go old school. D n k
am I a loud flower. I really like old Who else do I like?
Flower Wise? Canave? Not in more? I'm saying, I guy,
my flower doesn't come from like on the shelves, Emerald, Emeralds,
Cushman. So I just had recently with some fire that that was pretty good.
Uh see it? Who was it? Lights? Was it light sky
Farms that we've had recently? Their donut was really good and that was their
flower in Rosin. That was pretty good. They got some good concentrates too,
Light Skywise. Is there any garbage brands? Yeah? Common citizen what
are they called these days? Common citizen, I calm, common citizen,
but what common citizen an? Uh anything? Affiliate with Green Peak Industries.
I'm not a fan of Loom. I think Looms pretty trash too. I
didn't like their stuff. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not a fan of
their stuff. Yeah, I'm not really a huge fan of the Jeters.
Oh no way, you couldn't pay me to try, I'm not. I
think there's butter better infuse pre rolls out on the market than those. And
these are just some of our opinions, Like you could take it the guys.
I don't know. It's all good, but these are just some of
the stuff that I've tried. What else? What was that one pre role
that we had? I was like, man, I'm like, oh my
god, the one that was just grape Yeah, God that sucked. What
was I can't remember honestly that. I will say edibles covert cups, those
are fire. I like Northern Connections sirrup, yeahs really good. That's actually
good. I'm not a big edible guy. I did have these things by
Apex though, that were Rosin logins, Rosin lozenges, Like I'm I think
that's right. They're like like hard canny little like sucker things. Oh my
god, they were phenomenal. Twenty milligrams. Those were good. So yeah,
As far as carts though, I'm not a big cart guy, but
I did. I did enjoy the zelzer By gas station cultivation like this Legit
Labs. I liked their cards with the flon True North's old school cart was
pretty good. Any brands you want to shout out or any brands you want
to be like this stay away from No, Okay, just just want to
throw it out there, you know what I mean? Like, you know,
no, I just like to try brands. Yeah, well, and
that's what we always say, try him twice. You definitely got to try
him at least twice though, too, because you can't have many times we've
had a bad product and then tried it. It could have been a bad
crop, could have been just a bad storage because there's many things that can
happen, and I don't store anything correctly, so there not gonna work.
That's like, that is something you need to do, especially with some of
the concentrates and flower. You don't want to leave flour in direct lighter heat.
You just degrade in the THHC. That's a good tip for people in
the beginning too. Now I need another tip, Yeah, because what do
you have for people who want to get involved in the industry, Like,
do you have any tips? Well, I mean, nowadays there's so many
different ways if you're just looking to get involved in the industry at work around
it. You can get into bud tending, you can get into working by
facility. But like again, you are working a po you're working a point
of sales job. You know, it's not like you're gonna be touching the
plant. If you're gonna be working the plant, Like, definitely apply for
those like entry level like trimming jobs and stuff, and that gets you around
the plant. And once you get into those trimming jobs, I feel like
then you kind of know the right people to kind of work your way up
to vege or work your way up to watering or feeding or like whatever level.
Because that's another thing is every grow is built so different. All these
grow ups we've seen, like some are way more automated than you would imagine.
Some are way less automated than you imagine. Some of these giant grow
ups are still manually feeding water. Some of the small grow ups are automated
completely so it it's not necessarily about being around the biggest ones. The biggest
ones just get around to grow. So like there's a bunch of trim teams
and stuff out there, and I've had friends that have started with trim teams
and got around the plant. If you know anyone in the industry, reach
out. We saw our one buddy get hooked up with a quills, came
in, moved from Ohio. Now he's working well and there's education. See
that's that's that's what's cool about modern times is like now there's education for cannabis,
cannabis schooling. You can look into a lot of classes and with that
that can make that might put you up in front of other people if you're
trying to apply. I mean, you can look on indeed nowadays and you
can find cannabis jobs. If you have any buddies in the industry, that's
what I would probably reach out to first as well too, because they might
have a foot in the door already. So I just the only reason why
I said, if you want to be around the plant, start with around
the plant, because sometimes it's once you're in a bud tending job, like
you're a bud tender. You know, it's hard to transfer over. If
you want to work with people and guide people to like the right medicine for
them, then that's where bud tending, you know, that's where I wish
that Passion would be a bud tending for sure. Such a big industry nowadays
now as marketing companies. Is this for this since it's wild? What are
your thoughts on women's starting their own brands in the cannabis industry and why do
you think some men struggle with it? Well, first off, they should.
Yeah, like we love to see more women. I'd love to see
more balance in this. Coming from like the av world, it's like a
male dominating thing, and I love bringing different perspectives to it. I think
female owned businesses are in the industry, They're just not as common like we
have brought on North Coast Services. Yea, they were an all female trim
and grow up services team. Shout out. Great episode that was, like
that was really early. Yes, I believe so faun for sure, but
so yeah, I just wish it. I wish it was more common,
you know, And I really do wish there was more female presence in the
industry. And you be surprised there are quite a bit. I just don't
know if they're as common as they as we hope they would be. The
numbers are definitely a little bit small. As far as having an issue with
it, I have no idea. I feel like that's just built in prejudice
or sexism, Like yeah, it's kind of like that's just like that's like,
uh, insecurities. I guess I don't know. I could care less
about who runs the company, That's what I mean. Like for me,
it's like it's just it's business is business, right, So it's like,
you know, and shout out there are very up. There's some powerhouses in
the cannabis industry like Jamie. You know, shout out to Jamie. She's
Cooper, She's awesome. She's always really nice. She helps with True North.
She was at Connect Puff when we were there. She has a very
high presence in industry, you know. And it's just Narmie and Jerus with
explosive. I mean, she launched her CBD company called Nino's Naturals, and
it's a great company. They do. They have great CBD stuff. I
recommend them. So again, they're out there. You just gotta dig a
little bit, And I think because I don't know, I don't really know.
Why do you have an idea why you think it's like mail lead and
mail dominated. Typically in groups of women, that's just gonna be someone's going
to have that opinion. So usually because this is from the female groups that
I'm in, Yeah, yeah, of course, so no, I just
I just would like to hear a situation where they have a problem with it,
because I'd be like, I just want to know why they're hell they
have a problem with a female led company like that. There should be no
problems all. It should be open competition. Everyone should be able to have
the opportunity to have a business or running business within the industry. I think
there's that one company down in Detroit, calumex Is that the women owned grow
down there. Oh report on that I don't remember, and I believe they're
crushing it down there. So it's good to see it. I mean they
should. There is problems with it though, because remember m J. Biskind
last year there was a couple of guys walking around that's had byweed from mom
or something. Shirts. Yeah that's but that's just stupid male like, like
that's just fucking people being little insecure boys, you know what I mean.
Like, I'll call them out right now for those guys who were the fucking
hurt, like your little punks, Like, like, what are you trying
to prove? Like what is your number one go to strain? If money
was not a factor? M wow, gmo Chan's never a factor. I
love me some GMO first class for anything with GMO in it. It just
stuck out to me so much like that garlic turpine. I don't know how
they got it to taste so good like to me, but it's like that
Beta Carrey offoline mix with that mercy or piney. I don't know whatever that
mixture is. It's just that gas bunk and it's actually in this damn all
right it is. It's a first class bok. That's tough for me.
I don't have Why did you say money not an option, just like meaning
like a specific like I would assume like that top shelf. Yeah, I
got you, meaning like it's expensive. Yeah. Yeah, man, it's
a good question. I just said GMO most strains, But I I you're
looking for like a specific brand, no strain. Strange strains tough for me?
Well, I could see strain price wise, because if you if people
you're thinking maybe cookies or some of those exotic strains that have like just like
a limited drop, they're usually a little bit more expensive for me. Man,
I don't know skunk, maybe some skunk, but I don't I don't
find Yeah, I could find it now, ye put Money's not an issue.
I pay for it. There you go, Okay, I see,
and that's why she put it in there. Well, I just put in
my head like it's hard for me to put a straight And there used to
be like that in that back of the day where like Brownie Scout came out
and they were like we had forty percent and like that was expensive. But
nowadays I feel like unless it's like a hot seller, they don't do that,
like the runs thing. But I don't even know though, because like
a lot of people are fabricating testing results nowadays, so something. I mean,
I'm hesitant on some of the results too. Nowadays when it's testing so
high, you just got to see who the tester is, like what the
verdius is just like scam Yeah right, I feel that. I feel that
Where do you see the Michigan cannabis industry in five years, five years.
You know, it's a good question. Three billion by the end of this
year, So five years from now, that takes us to what we're end
put its twenty fourth about twenty twenty nine, give a take. Well,
I mean, I guess the one thing I will say is that I do
can see can I see it continuing to grow, like in revenue, Like
you know how we just said hit three billion or whatever. I'm sure we'll
be at like six by then, you know, like it's gonna keep growing.
I think what we're gonna start doing is seeing in like some of these
companies start falling off, some of these companies who just got in because they
had a bunch of money, and then they come in and they're like,
oh, look at all our marketing, Look at all these stores we've got.
And then I think we'll start seeing that separation. Finally. I think
we've been kind of seeing it now because companies are starting to fall, but
like I feel like we'll start to see like more of the good companies that
have good quality product stand out. At least. This is my hope,
you know, because I think for a while there it's just been like I
see that sign, So I trust them, and like you said, like
as you try these companies, you try new companies, you try new companies,
eventually you realize I don't like them, I do like them. So
hopefully that starts dividing a little bit more with the quality. So I'm hoping
that that happens. Yep. You know, as far as the league galities
go, I'd love to see probable smells start to go away, or probable
cause from smell go away. That's that it would be a dream in the
next five years bad and then h weight limits pointless, what about you?
Probable cause would be good. I continue to see the market growing, h
Just like you said, six billion is probably a good number. I mean
we're we're twenty about twenty. We got legal in twenty eighteen and it's twenty
twenty three, so about five years. But we really didn't go online until
like mid twenty nineteen. Under twenty nineteen. Yeah, so maybe maybe it's
six seven billion market, seven billion dollar market. That'd be insane though,
right, But you now you have a lot of more cities opening up.
That's one thing. I don't know if we'll see it, but I really
hope we see it. Is the change in like green zones, like we
stopped seeing this so much, like weed's not allowed in these counties, like
to open consumption would be dope where you smoke outside, Yeah, that'd be
sick. And more consumption lounges where you could just go in and just get
out. No. Yeah. But she alsoid, like, what do you
think is gonna happen? Like based on now, I think there will be
more. I think too. But then she said, Michigan. Just talk
on Michigan. I'm not talking about the homemark, you know, I think
just in Michigan. I do think we're gonna see a lot more consumption lounges
be a thing because we've talked to some of these owners and they're like already
ready so as soon as their city allows it. Like I think that's gonna
be a really cool industry, Like it's basically a bar industry for cannabis.
I think people can go smoke weed, Like I don't. I don't necessarily
want to go to a place and just sit and drink a beer at a
bar. I know some people do that to each throwne, but like I
I don't know. Maybe if I'm bored alone one night, I wouldn't mind
going on and just smoking some joints to meet some new people, right,
Like that sounds kick ass. So for me, I feel like that is
what we're seeing. I think that's what we'll see a lot, I think.
I agree. I more consumption lounges would be great. I think there'll
be more testing, not testing. Let me face that, there'll be more
stuff required on testing results like REMAT eight and non remediated. It was the
bud remediated or non remediated. I think that results from testing. I think
that will be like a staple on. It will have to be labeled,
right because like right now, a lot of people you don't even know if
your bud has been baked into like a UV radiation and then it comes out
clean because it's like filled with pesticides or mold or bugs, right and you
don't know if you're gonna smoke it now. I think the label will have
that. I think we'll eventually have like turpines on the labels too. And
I think basically results showing that that could be interesting because there's that's Yeah,
I could see some growth in that because people are already talking about stuff like
that. Yeah, I don't see the market really taking a drop if it
doesn't hit six billions, still around like four or five billions, just kind
of off, like what do you think would happen? What do you think
is gonn happen to the price in five years? I don't That's what I
was thinking because I was trying to comment on that. But there's no prediction
on price. It's always just based off what's around and how many companies,
right, So I don't know. I'm curious to see if the drops are
not. I don't know. I don't think. I don't know if it
would drop, Like we get cheaper, can we get cheaper than two dollars
per rolls? Like by one gets six free? Like I don't know what
else we're gonna do here. It's cheaper to get weed than it is by
a snack at the gas station. I smoke weed now because it's cheaper than
cigarettes. Back of chips two bucks, I get like eight. Sometimes it's
unpredictable with what could happen, especially like if things do happen with your criminalization
with the with the United States, like that could affect Michigan because then if
it's decriminalize, like hopefully we keep important exports stuff out right, because if
they do criminalize stay wide, then technically you could get import at weed coming
in states and we don't want yeah, we don't want garbage. So I
don't know there's a lot of factors with that because we're still in that.
Like it's so exponential with weed right now, the growth. Do you think
it will ever be federally legal? I do hope for decriminalization, and I
want dicriminalization first. Federalization like sounds good like legalization, It sounds all cool
on paper, but that decriminalization would like jump start to legalization. I'm just
worried if we jump to legalization, like we run to federal legalization because it's
like, hey, it's legal, then all this state it's just the laws
aren't ready. The states won't be ready. That don't aren't ready for cannabis.
You'll start getting weeds shipped in from Thailand because it's legal now. If
you jump to those laws, we're not ready. There's way too many precautions,
there's way too many laws that need to be in place and testing things.
You think humans are ready or people that doesn't don't have weed, if
it just went legal, they'd be ready. Those cops wouldn't know what to
do with themselves. The government officials wouldn't know what to do with themselves.
So I think we can be I just think there's certain levels to decriminalization that
should happen first. Yeah, I think decriminalization happens first, and I think
the legalization will eventually happen years. Because if legalization happens first, there's gonna
be a lot of people trying to make money. There'll be a lot more
money focused than there will be like on what matters and getting people out of
jail and getting people like social equity programs. There are gonna be so many
things that are missed. Look how long it's taking each state to go legal
and build these programs up. If we just went legal as a whole,
these states in general would all be like so like lost with themselves. They
wouldn't even know what to begin with. Like Kansas. I don't think Kansas
has anything. They went legal today, they'd be like, oh shit,
what they don't. And that's what I was saying, is this they're not
ready, Like so I do hope for it? Do I see it coming?
Possibly? Because who is that Chuck Schumer always has a bill like every
other day. Every Look how you laughed because you already know what I'm talking
about. Well, because this bill, Yeah, exactly so Chi again,
Chuck Schumer has been trying, like there's people trying consistently. I just don't
think everyone's ready. And I think the steps to get there are jacominization is
safe banking, because if you start doing that and you show the businesses that
they can bank safely, make their money safely, stop fucking with people just
growing we like you start getting like a little bit looser, get amount of
jail, and I people can go out jail. Right, There's a lot
of things that should happen first, and I do think we'll get there.
I just think it's a lot longer, like five ten years hopefully, we
can't be there. If you could fix one thing about the industry, now,
what would it be, I mean to go to dicriminization, safe banking.
That would be like might at least safe banking because like you know,
businesses came and you can't there's so many things you can't do without dicriminization.
It's because in safe banking, because if you decriminalize it and you get it
off the schedule list. Then you can start opening up to like I said,
banking, there's transfers that they can do, there's credit cards things they
can open. There's I don't who knows the insurance discounts you might be able
to get for medical, Like who knows the possibilities right loans for your businesses
write offs? Because right now businesses can't do any write offs. So I
just you can't write off any marketing. You can't write not marketing supplies and
all that type of stuff. You can't write any of that off. Yeah,
so I lost track. What was the question again? I lost I
kind of went on on a tangent there for a second. If you could
fix one thing about the industry. One thing I think that's my issue is
like that there's a couple and I think I think with like a local safe
banking is huge, but that's more just focus on the legal side, like
the rack side, safe banking. As far as personal side, man,
I think we canna get to people how to jail. Yes, that's the
most messed up thing is it's why is it taking so long to get people
out of jail? Like, what's the issue? It's legal people are making
millions. Just let them out. Everyone's like, oh, there's gotta be
a corporate sees him. No Jo, let them out like they've been in
jail for how fucking long, wrongfully if it's non violent criminal charges. That's
the big thing with the industry is some of the ship that should be happening
is taking forever, and then some of the ship that makes people money somehow
it gets done. Dude, we're a three billion dollars market. They should
be anyone should be out of jail like them, all the attacks revenue.
One thing I would like to see is the communities come together medical and rack
and have like a farmer's market where you can be able to have be able
to have everyone in a competition, from recreational brands to home growers that grow
in their twelve plants, to people in medical. You got your medical and
then you got your caregivers. Everyone can any I think that we were talking
about what you brought up earlier. That's a big thing as industries. There's
too much division, right, there's too much this. I'm at this,
I'm at this, and it's like I get why, you know, because
there is some wrong things, Like what you were saying from the female perspective,
there are some like male chauvinistic type of bullshit, right, which is
wrong. And it's like the same thing with you just said, right,
there needs to be some change, and the issue is with medical and wreck
is that And the same thing with the female male is that there's a division.
Like we gotta start creating bridges. Otherwise it's like, how are we
going to get to being fully to criminalize and legal if our inside of our
own industry we're already divided. We have to come together to convince the rest
of the world that weet is fine. Otherwise they're gonna be look at they're
already fighting and drop the tacks right too, that's just money. But yeah,
yeah, I just think there's too much division in this industry based what
I'm not like I love That's why I said I love the caregivers side.
I bought some chronic off that side, you know, big going to the
big Cloud events and playing in they're all events like as a playing blue my
Sax thing, like I love them, you know, but I also see
what he went through with seven felonies and he was like scared to like leave
his house. You know. It's like it's also wrong that weed is treated
like that, like we need to find that middle ground for everything because it's
too much like you're wrong, like like let's let's let's be right together.
You know, No, it's truly, it's frustrating. And then this one's
my question. Yeah, of course soil or a hydro grown? And why
go ahead? D Yeah, I'm gonna go soil grown. I don't care
as long as it tastes good. That's that's that's why. I don't know,
because you grow hydro poorly? Or was it like I don't mean to
say, I don't know. I'm asking no, Like, listen, I'm
you made it like a statement, You're like, you grow hydro poorly?
No? Was it because you grew hyer? Like did you grow soil?
Because you're like, oh man, I keep sucking this up, grows some
soil. I don't know. I'm just asking, dude, I don't grow.
No, it's valid. I try, I did I did you do
you kill too crazy? No? Hydro I didn't do well with I didn't
do great with coco either. A lot of people love cocoa, so rock
well, right, but don't you have the freedom like non stop? Yeah,
I just like soil. The reason why I like it because it's a
the seed, it's nature, Mother, Earth, planet, dropping, it's
organic right, just letting it grow. And I guess if I was to
have a preference, I would say soil, and only because my homie who
grew hydro in my house, fucked up my ceiling No, in one of
my closets in the next door, I grew some hydro and the thing cracked
and water just dripped through my ceiling lights. My lights still doesn't work well,
like the fan doesn't work in my kitchen, still shout out. You
know who you are, homie, We're homie school, drop your name.
It's not that I'm saying that I don't like hydro grow or hydro grown product.
And I don't know if I love cannabis in general. I love it
all. But for me, if I was to grow, I soil,
and if it is growing and soil, I mean there's there's some really good
that's growing. I just remember being like I can tell it's hydro. I
don't know if I could not hydro rock will because I'm not going to say
the company name, But wasn't that one from Detroit that we got those four
A samples from they were grown hydroponically, and I would have not been able
to tell. I think I got to know the brand goes. Yes,
I tried to mute you, but I guess I just didn't want to throw
one of the buster. You heard it through her mic So it doesn't matter.
That's funny. Don't need edit it. No, I mean, it's
dude, it's still I don't think it matters. I just don't know.
I don't like to put people's business out there, you know, because if
they like keep their secrets, you know, like, but at the end
of the day, like I don't know if it matters, like if you're
getting that yield and it tastes good, like I mean, do you have
a pennon on that. I'm very curious because we were kind of talking about
that before the show in a few months though. Oh right, which the
difference You're saying, yeah, yeah, you're testing soil right now. My
friend is growing hydro nice and I'm helping him so he can teach me.
Okay, that's a good good way to learn, hands on learning. It
mean, that's the best way to do it. I mean, when you
have someone able to teach you. It's a lot easier than trying it yourself.
You got a mentor, Yeah you had a mentor? Yeah yeah,
harpy yeah yeah. No. So yeah, it's just it's wild crazy.
I don't I don't know why there's such a like a I grow soil,
I grow this, I grow this because like at the day, it's like
you grow chronic, Like honest, it's clean, grown quality. But I'm
all about it, so that that's my main preference. So and then my
last question is what should someone do if they get too high? Get too
high? Okay, take a dabt No, I'm oh god, I was
just taking a damp so I thought that was funny. It might fall right
to sleep like screen. Well, actually I don't have any up here,
but we were at was it was m gun. It was kind of gun
talking about that. Yeah, Anti Toke. We got this ship called Anti
Toke and allegedly, I mean I drank a hav It kind of worked,
but like if you take it, it's supposed to melt out your buzz or
meltow out the high. So there's Anti toke. Now that's if I was
gonna suggest. Apparently that works, I guess The idea is calm your mind,
because like my brain is thinking like too high. I'm been too high
in a while, but I'm comparing it to like if I like trip out
on mushrooms, right, if you just got a calm down, because at
the day, it's like you're just overthinking in your head. So it's like
if you're getting too high and you feel like overwhelmed, just sit, relax,
don't smoke for a second, get some water, try to get your
mind off high feeling. Because sometimes that's just like in your head, you
know, because once you start smoking weed, you know, if you see
a cop, that buzz goes away. So it's a lot of mental high.
When you're getting used to being high, it's a lot in your head.
You'll be high. You'll get through it. You'll get through it,
will who will? You will? Maybe maybe eat some food, but it's
actually not a bad eat some food. I just say, do some normal
ship some stuff that you weren't. Just take a couple of deep breaths,
close your eyes. There are a couple of deep breaths, you know,
and straw yeah who's but yeah, I think that that honestly be the buss.
Yeah, or take a nap, if you can just fall asleep,
just go to sleep, if you'll wake up though, that's simes. No,
no, no, That's what I'm trying to say. It's like me
because like if I'm in my head, I'm like I hadn't fall asleep,
There's no way because I'm just like stare at the wall, yea with my
eyes shot or that that stare that tunnel vision type of vibe you get sometimes
yeah, yeah, And I think the big thing for me, especially like
getting into the industry now, Like I just want to say this because like
if you do have a chance to go to those farmers market caregiver events,
go to them because you get to really see where this culture and community came
from. And don't I love dispensaries like the convenience of them, and some
of them still have that culture cannabis, but the culture cannabis is just like
it matters, you know, And I'm just so glad I got to see
that those type events like you know or you know, so if you can,
you know, go them, see the caregivers. There's Flint compassion clubs,
there's Genesee compassion clubs, there's you know, they're out there. It's
just they're there again. It's like we're talking about it's just they're rare.
There's sometimes these smaller niche things just don't earn as prevalent. So yeah,
that's true. And if you always got questions, you know, I always
reach out to people within the industry trying to get your answers, questions,
questions answered. Do some research if there's tons of stuff failable online, Like
I learned a lot of information about cannabis online, just like you said,
that's where you started and learning a bunch of your information as well. And
it's easy, it's accessible, it's right there. Uh, and take it
easy when you if you're getting into it, like you might a couple of
times you first might smoke. You might it might be like, oh I
don't feel nothing or anything, but you will, You'll you'll hit it because
like everyone has a different experience there first time too, So like just in
uh, take it slow, I guess, and take it easy. Remember
if I got high the first time I tried weed, I don't think so.
I think it was the second time, because the first time I tried
it, I was like I barely inhaled it. I was like first time
I got high. Second time, I was already drunk, so I was
pretty sure I got drunk and high, and I was like, this is
run yeah, spring break well John, spring break Yeah, I just went
back man taking it back. Jeez, half a life, algo on,
I know, crazy, got anything else for us? Yeah, I mean
honestly, like, I love, like if any any people have questions or
want to do something like what my candidates to do. I love this perspective,
like I love a female's perspective on this, because there isn't enough female
perspective in the industry, and there should be. I think inclusivity in any
industry is so important because when you deal with any background that's different than yours,
you're going to bring a different perspective. And someone said this to me
a long time ago, and I really appreciate it. Is that the greater
mind is always wait, how does it go to, the mind of many
is greater than the singular mind or something to that effect. It basically mean
the mind of many ideas will always outpower the ideas of one person. And
it makes sense because if you one person brings an even just one small little
idea, and then one person brings another small idea. It's like now you're
cooking with a whole new recipe. You know. So I learned this word
and I love it. Inclusivity is just the best way to do it,
is like, because that's so important and equity, but inclusivity is just important
because if you have all different backgrounds and different types of perspectives, I really
think that you get a better you know, industry, business friendships, whatever,
like, I just think there's a more fun out of that way.
Agree. Oh, one more thing, one monther thing. If you're going
in the dispo, checkpack uh testing date or package date, because if the
products old, it's not gonna be as good as what it is. If
it's fresher. It's always looking for the freshest product, you know what.
Let me ask you something real quick, because I don't know who ever asked
this, And we asked a lot of questions about newbies. Do you have
any suggestions to like newbies getting starting growing? Just I don't. I don't
have any like to because like you know, we always talk about tips for
growing, tips for growing, and then this air drew ponics, this hydroponics,
like sometimes like it's overwhelming, like even for me, who's like,
oh, maybe one day I'll grow, and then I think about it,
I'm like know where to fucking start, Like like I don't know. I
mean, you gotta get some genetics, so start with either getting some clones
or seeds like that's number one first yet and find a spot where you're either
gonna do it. You're gonna do it in a tent, and you're gonna
build a room. Tent's probably your easiest and cheapest unless you get like a
little closet grow like I did, but you're not gonna really yield much from
it. I mean, it's a good starter kit, but you know,
like the lockers up yeah, yeah, yeah. And then honestly, i'd
probably go with some type of bag of soil that doesn't need much watering for
you to make it as easy as possible. I prefer led lights. They're
a little bit more expensive, so maybe try to get a cheaper one,
or you could go with a CMH certifi sera MC mental yeah, seramic mental
hlide those aren't bad, or hps, but those costs a little bit more.
Get some airflow, so definitely get like a little fan in there.
They'll need a pot. Sorry, I didn't mean to put you I just
I honestly was none of that. Just get a timer for the light,
do eighteen six for vege, twelve and twelve for flour. I think that's
really it. Okay, cool, it might easier start rail if you have
any more questions. I thought you said your last once. I was like,
you know what, I just always wanted to put this out there,
and there's I felt like there was some new bi questions here today and I
appreciate that. Yeah, I mean, that's that's a val Let's start right
there, look into it. Do some research on the strain, find how
long it goes eight and nine weeks, give it darkness, maybe get some
cl two in there. How you just say he says it so casually like
okay, Like no, I'd have to rewatch it, Like if you're listening,
just rewind it, you'll get it. I mean there's some bad I
don't know. I'm probably forgetting so much right now, but yeah, I'm
do some some pest management too. May ask you a question as you're getting
in the industry, like has it been difficult have you felt like different like
animosity from like the males, or like okay, because I just want to
know because I feel like that's so messed up, like bro girls, So
okay, I am good with like connecting with people and finding what they're good
at, and I like to learn from everyone else because like, I feel
like it's got to be different coming like as a female, like cannabis,
you know, industry person as we're like the male. It's just it's just,
you know, I never thought about how different the perspective is coming in.
Oh, some people think I'm stupid, let's see. I feel like
that comes just with prejudice, just their own prejudice though hotually it's like the
douchey guys that like, oh yeah, I'm sorry if you talk like that
in my bad Like I just like I just like shaw, I don't know,
I don't know, like and that's just wrong. And I just was
curious because like I think that's the issue. Is like why you won't see
a lot of female people coming in the industry is because if they deal with
those tribulations, so it's like we should be you should just be inclusive because
it's like, I don't know, well, just those guys always end up
looking really stupid, so they are That's what that's what it shows you if
you're that. It's funny to me some one girls get discouraged. I never
understand because they're usually really sketchy guys and likes, well, hey man,
some of the loudest voices of the dumbest you know what I mean, Like,
you know what I mean, just because they're yelling doesn't mean they know
more. They just might be louder. It's because sometimes times that's like what
people do is like they try to grab that power. So I yeah,
if you are a female trying to get in this industry, hopefully that doesn't
discourage you as one or two men, because like, fuck them, you
know what I mean? Like this, they are nice, they're not creepy
guys, right, well, they're okay. That's good. It's not Hollywood,
like, hey man, you know there's some fuck up industries out there.
I'm just saying, can't I don't know. I didn't. I'm just
saying, I don't know how it is, you know. So I'm really,
I'm really you're enlightening me a bit because I really don't understand that perspective.
You don't like, that's not something I have to face. So I'm
curious because because like, I don't know, I personally like the big thing
for us is like I've we've always i've always felt like the outside industry because
we've been just trying to do media recoverage and like really working our way in
the industry. I just felt like we've just got the industry. So like,
yeah, it's just I don't know, it's a shame that people are
gonna judge you based on their own prejudice. You know. Yeah, A
man, keep going, don't stop, because first off, love your name,
Mike Canna. Gotta say I love it just saying it's an m I
in there too. If I remember, I saw that m I canna best
deal? Oh shit, am I canna best? M I canna cast?
Where there we go? So I thought that was cool. I mean,
you know, well you're I can't fam you know what I mean. So
now I appreciate you bringing these questions. This was a good perspective. We
haven't had this happen to us usually on ours. We've been on others and
that guy uh ask questions and whatnot, So this was a good take.
I'll appreciate you bringing this idea to us and getting the questions from everybody in
those groups. It's pretty cool. Thank you for having me. Yeah,
and anyone in those groups please reach out to us. We'd love to have
anyone else on if they're and actually, if there are any female owned businesses
that you like, you know, or anyone wants to highlight, please reach
out. We love to have him on. Understanding, we love to have
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I mean everyone has try to give the voice. That's when we do
the yeah, and that's what I'm trying to say. Yeah, you know,
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go check out our stuff, follow her, show her some love.
Anything you want to say when you want to shout out, No, Nope,
no shout outs by No. We appreciate you coming on though. We're
appreciating the trip out to the studio and everything, and so thank you for
having me. Oh yeah, No, if you ever want to do this
again or you get another rounded questions like you, run it back always.
So yeah, most definitely this was fun. Any perspective this time on this
episode, and thank you for joining us, and UH as always here to
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