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Yo, what's going on? Everybody? Welcome to a new episode of My

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Candic Cast, and I'm Candid Dave. Yeah, I'm grooving. On today's

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episode. We have a special guest
joining us. Uh goes by Mike Canna

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Basti, and it's gonna be a
different type of interview today, groovies.

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She's got coming on and asking us
some questions against some insight into the industry,

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and we're gonna be talking about some
stuff she has going on. So

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welcome, Hello, thank you for
joining us. Yeah, welcome to the

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party. So let's get some background
about you, my cannabis. Uh,

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do you smoke cannabis? Are you
working in the industry at all? Have

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you been in the industry previous?
Yeah? What made you find us?

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Great question? I have smoked cannabis
since I was in high school and it's

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just always been something in my life
and a lot of my exes are involved

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in it, so it's always kept
me in all right, So that's what

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bright you to the industry? Ah? Yes, actually no, I would

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say probably my Saint Bernard getting sick. We didn't really know what to give

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her and she could barely walk because
she was a puppy mill dog. She

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was a rescue, so I started
her giving that's horrible, puppy mills man,

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that's just horrible. Well, and
the girl got her from the mall

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and then returned her because she was
growing up too. That's sad. That's

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sad. No, they're big,
they get big quick, I really do.

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So I started giving her RSO and
it would she would run around like

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a puppy again. So yeah,
I just started doing research behind the science

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of it. And that's where I
like to like have all my fun as

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researching and learning more and the medical
side of it. Absolutely, absolutely,

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that's awesome. I mean, like
there's a million things that take in the

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industry. So I actually find it
very fascinating that it was your dog like

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that that brought you over to the
RSO. But I mean I give,

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like I give kilos some CBD stuff, so it could definitely help Molly gets

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it, Yep, I give Molly
CBD. Actually, remember my neighbor back

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in the day, he had the
little dog, and I give him CBD

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if he was limping and stuff,
and he actually prolonged his life like another

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year and a half. Daniel's dog. Oh I didn't remember that, yea,

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So it's like, that's what it's
crazy. Cannabis can help, not

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just thoughts, I can help uh
even our best free friends. So it's

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because it's a magical plan. Yeah. But yeah, let's let's get into

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some of those questions you wanted to
talk about, all right, So I

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thought it would be fun. We're
getting interviewed you guys. Yeah, I

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like it because you're always asking the
questions and it's good to know about you

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guys in your opinions. So I
made a list. I went into some

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of the female cannabis groups on there, and I think there's a disconnect with

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men and women in cannabis, and
women sometimes don't want to ask questions or

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it's frowned upon because it's a stupid
question to them. So I collected a

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bunch of questions from people or women
and awesome, No, I really appreciate

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that because I feel like, I
mean, even like the medical rack side,

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there's sometimes there's a divide. So
for me, it's like, I

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feel like there is somewhat a little
divide between the female and male people in

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cannabis, but there shouldn't be,
Like we need to build more bridges.

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So I'm glad you came up with
this idea and no questions are stupid either,

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So let's hear them all right,
What is the best way to start

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consuming cannabis for a newbie? Okay, okay, So this for me personally,

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I think it's easiest is to go
with a bowl because it's the easiest

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to figure out. You don't got
to roll anything, even a bong,

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there's certain you know, you gotta
make sure the water's right. You gotta

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hit it right, otherwise you know, you could get way too high.

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I think it be clear too big
of a bong. So like for me,

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I really was happy starting with the
bowl. You know, I mean

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chill thems are great and you know
if you ever seen those like wood packers,

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like the really small chill them like
the dugouts, Yeah, the dugouts

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right, So that's how I started. But like bowls to me, is

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that perfect, Like you get used
to learning how to like not learning,

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but getting used to that muscle memory
of breaking it up, packing it and

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then learning how to hit it.
Because you ever share a bowl with someone

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and they just light the whole thing, it's like learn how to light that

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shit, no what I'm saying.
And learned how to light that, because

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like that's I feel like that goes
a long way. So I feel like

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a bowl would be your best way
to do it. If it was like,

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that's what I would recommend going backwards, if you're starting off with flour,

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Yeah, I would have proud gree
with you on that groovy because it

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took me a while to learn how
to ro it's honestly, I just remember

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the only reas why I learned how
to role joints because we like an ounce

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on us and I would just be
they you keep looking at me and you

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go off mikes. Oh sorry,
you guy to talk to me. I

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hear you rolling the joints. It
takes time and practice. You're gonna be

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using up a lot of weed and
you'll probably lose weed. And it's just

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a hassle, quick easy, grind
up some weed, put in a bowl.

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Light it. Actually, I like
a ball start how'd you start?

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Because I was obsession bulls. I
literally walked around with bowls in my podcast

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with Love my Bow. I brought
it to my bar backing job. Allegedly

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mine was mine was a bowl,
the little medal bowl they put the screen

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in and then the seconds that I
mean, I don't know, that's what

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they're me and I liked it.
I remember those so that was my first

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time. I mean honestly those vapes
nowadays too. If you're a vapor,

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I think that it's pretty easy.
You just pick up a pen and a

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cart and you're good to go.
It's a real modern way. Yeah,

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definitely, especially if you're used to
vaping, like during my little sister,

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she's like a decade younger than me, and she's like, she just tried

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it a little bit. So she
tried vaping because she's vapes already. It's

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comfortable. But I don't feel like, don't jump in the dabs. I

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wouldn't jump in the dabs. And
I only say that because the question was

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smoking weed. If you want to
try getting high for the first time,

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I think edibles, like on the
very low dosage can sometimes be cool because

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people are used to drinking and eating
where smoking is. Sometimes people don't like

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smoking, yeah, but if you
like smoking bowls, yeah. How should

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someone new to cannabis decide on a
strain or which should they go off the

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recommendation of the bud tender at the
dispensary. So I mean, I definitely

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think that the bud tender will know, especially to a newbie, like they

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will know a little bit more,
they will know they'll be able to guide

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you in the right direction. But
I think until you like really smoked the

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play and get to know it and
know how it affects you, it's kind

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of hard to say. You know, it's a guessing game, you know.

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Like I always thought that for me, I was gonna of the head

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highs, like I was gonna love
that keep me up. But I as

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a hyper person, I started getting
away from those because it was just all

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over. So I love the like
the down body buzz type of vibes,

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you know. So I think the
best thing to do just ease yourself into

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it, try something, start smoking
it, and then like oh if I

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didn't like that Turpin didn't like the
end, because you can start guiding your

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way to the correct cannabis for you
because there's so many different types. And

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I truly think that, like,
you gotta find the one that works best

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for you. And I think trial
error is the best preacher man, you

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know what I mean, Like,
what do you you know? It's it's

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it's difficult to it's difficult to go
off like a buddy's opinion, because,

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like you said, each strain affects
everybody differently. I've been like digging some

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more of a lemon uplifting terps right
while you might be wanting the down down

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or stuck in the couch. Like
I call him relaxing because I don't get

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stuck, but I call him relaxing. Yeah, you know what I mean,

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because I like the down vibe feeling. So yeah, I'm a So

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I would go the recommendation of the
butt tender, or do some research,

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maybe going to Google and ask what
you're looking for or flavor you're looking for,

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and see what strings pop up,
and then see if the dispo has

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them. Also, if you do
get a strain and it's by somebody and

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they don't and you don't like it, you might like it from somebody else

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because each string grown differently is completely
different than I was. If I grew

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a strain or you grew a strain, and you grew a strain, that

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strain would probably be different, all
based on our methods. So you might

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like to strain by somebody else.
Then my friend, his friend just came

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to Michigan to get a strain because
it's not the same in Colorado. Oh

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no, I mean absolutely, Yeah. Every phenotype is different. Yeah,

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every cutting, every genetic you get
then has each pheno type depending on how

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it's grown, if any it's taken
care of, so they all end up

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very different. Yeah, it's it's
pretty remarkable. That's why I like it

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really. Try on air is the
best because I mean, how many times

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have I smoked one type of bud
and then I didn't like it? Some

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other buds? So it's like you
just gotta try it. Yeah, tryal

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their I like that growing. What
is your favorite brand for flower, concentrates,

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edibles, all that stuff? Like, oh, for everything? Okay,

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like overall or if you are like
I really like the sedible Okay,

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well we think we should kind of
take that per category because I get that

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was that was a lot. Start
with concentrates. We'll start with concentrates.

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There's a couple of great brands that
I really like right now. First I'm

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to kickoff with Fifth Age. Josh, there's a phenomenal work over there.

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Yeah, that stuffs really good.
It's a little bit You're getting quality every

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time. It just depends on what
dispo you're at for a price, point.

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If you're looking for something that's a
lower price point. We've had what

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was it recently? Sozo has some
okay stuff, very very great bang for

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your we're just talking on the market
then, like legal shelves, right,

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okay, Yeah, because I was
gonna say cool, because I mean,

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like listen, you know, I
come from the caregiver market. I always

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support them. I mean they are
a little bit harder. Turb farms,

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got farms, got fire. They
actually, yeah, shout out that that

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rsleven was gas. So if we're
talking just on the shelves, I shout

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out to homies, old school orchanics. Am I a loud fire, Emerald

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Fire, Emerald fire always gives you
the best value. Am I A loud

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flower has got some of the best
of scriptions. They're here in old school,

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Like he's bringing back some of these
old school strains that like, I

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mean, just shout out partners.
But I have to because we wouldn't be

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working with sour diesel headband og Kush
prename gay Bubba no Bubba. As far

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as concentrates go, though, I
like Fifth Age. I do like North

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Coast. They make good stuff with
Travis does good work over there. Everyone's

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been talking about East Side Alchemy.
I enjoyed their ship the one time I

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tried it had one. Yeah,
it's pretty good. There's so many as

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if you're gonna go for value though
those are all just Rosin. I just

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realize if we're gonna go for value, I think the best value would probably

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be like True North was good stuff
too. They have some good stuff.

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I like their vapes too, yet
some good vapes. The station cultivation cart

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you had recently was pretty solid.
See this was like, this is just

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concentrates flower school, I would have
to go old school. D n k

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am I a loud flower. I
really like old Who else do I like?

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Flower Wise? Canave? Not in
more? I'm saying, I guy,

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my flower doesn't come from like on
the shelves, Emerald, Emeralds,

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Cushman. So I just had recently
with some fire that that was pretty good.

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Uh see it? Who was it? Lights? Was it light sky

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Farms that we've had recently? Their
donut was really good and that was their

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flower in Rosin. That was pretty
good. They got some good concentrates too,

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Light Skywise. Is there any garbage
brands? Yeah? Common citizen what

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are they called these days? Common
citizen, I calm, common citizen,

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but what common citizen an? Uh
anything? Affiliate with Green Peak Industries.

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I'm not a fan of Loom.
I think Looms pretty trash too. I

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didn't like their stuff. Yeah,
I'm not. I'm not a fan of

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their stuff. Yeah, I'm not
really a huge fan of the Jeters.

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Oh no way, you couldn't pay
me to try, I'm not. I

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think there's butter better infuse pre rolls
out on the market than those. And

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these are just some of our opinions, Like you could take it the guys.

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I don't know. It's all good, but these are just some of

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the stuff that I've tried. What
else? What was that one pre role

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that we had? I was like, man, I'm like, oh my

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god, the one that was just
grape Yeah, God that sucked. What

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was I can't remember honestly that.
I will say edibles covert cups, those

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are fire. I like Northern Connections
sirrup, yeahs really good. That's actually

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good. I'm not a big edible
guy. I did have these things by

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Apex though, that were Rosin logins, Rosin lozenges, Like I'm I think

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that's right. They're like like hard
canny little like sucker things. Oh my

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god, they were phenomenal. Twenty
milligrams. Those were good. So yeah,

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As far as carts though, I'm
not a big cart guy, but

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I did. I did enjoy the
zelzer By gas station cultivation like this Legit

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Labs. I liked their cards with
the flon True North's old school cart was

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pretty good. Any brands you want
to shout out or any brands you want

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to be like this stay away from
No, Okay, just just want to

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throw it out there, you know
what I mean? Like, you know,

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no, I just like to try
brands. Yeah, well, and

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that's what we always say, try
him twice. You definitely got to try

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him at least twice though, too, because you can't have many times we've

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had a bad product and then tried
it. It could have been a bad

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crop, could have been just a
bad storage because there's many things that can

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happen, and I don't store anything
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That's like, that is something you
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the concentrates and flower. You don't
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You just degrade in the THHC.
That's a good tip for people in

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the beginning too. Now I need
another tip, Yeah, because what do

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you have for people who want to
get involved in the industry, Like,

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do you have any tips? Well, I mean, nowadays there's so many

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different ways if you're just looking to
get involved in the industry at work around

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it. You can get into bud
tending, you can get into working by

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facility. But like again, you
are working a po you're working a point

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of sales job. You know,
it's not like you're gonna be touching the

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plant. If you're gonna be working
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those like entry level like trimming jobs
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the plant. And once you get
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then you kind of know the right
people to kind of work your way up

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to vege or work your way up
to watering or feeding or like whatever level.

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grow ups we've seen, like some
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Some are way less automated than you
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ups are still manually feeding water.
Some of the small grow ups are automated

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completely so it it's not necessarily about
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ones just get around to grow.
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and stuff out there, and I've
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and got around the plant. If
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out. We saw our one buddy
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in, moved from Ohio. Now
he's working well and there's education. See

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that's that's that's what's cool about modern
times is like now there's education for cannabis,

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cannabis schooling. You can look into
a lot of classes and with that

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that can make that might put you
up in front of other people if you're

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trying to apply. I mean,
you can look on indeed nowadays and you

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can find cannabis jobs. If you
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what I would probably reach out to
first as well too, because they might

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have a foot in the door already. So I just the only reason why

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I said, if you want to
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the plant, because sometimes it's once
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you're a bud tender. You know, it's hard to transfer over. If

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you want to work with people and
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them, then that's where bud tending, you know, that's where I wish

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that Passion would be a bud tending
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now as marketing companies. Is this
for this since it's wild? What are

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your thoughts on women's starting their own
brands in the cannabis industry and why do

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you think some men struggle with it? Well, first off, they should.

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Yeah, like we love to see
more women. I'd love to see

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more balance in this. Coming from
like the av world, it's like a

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male dominating thing, and I love
bringing different perspectives to it. I think

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female owned businesses are in the industry, They're just not as common like we

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have brought on North Coast Services.
Yea, they were an all female trim

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and grow up services team. Shout
out. Great episode that was, like

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that was really early. Yes,
I believe so faun for sure, but

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so yeah, I just wish it. I wish it was more common,

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you know, And I really do
wish there was more female presence in the

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industry. And you be surprised there
are quite a bit. I just don't

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know if they're as common as they
as we hope they would be. The

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numbers are definitely a little bit small. As far as having an issue with

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it, I have no idea.
I feel like that's just built in prejudice

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or sexism, Like yeah, it's
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uh, insecurities. I guess I
don't know. I could care less

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about who runs the company, That's
what I mean. Like for me,

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it's like it's just it's business is
business, right, So it's like,

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you know, and shout out there
are very up. There's some powerhouses in

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the cannabis industry like Jamie. You
know, shout out to Jamie. She's

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Cooper, She's awesome. She's always
really nice. She helps with True North.

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She was at Connect Puff when we
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high presence in industry, you know. And it's just Narmie and Jerus with

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explosive. I mean, she launched
her CBD company called Nino's Naturals, and

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it's a great company. They do. They have great CBD stuff. I

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recommend them. So again, they're
out there. You just gotta dig a

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little bit, And I think because
I don't know, I don't really know.

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Why do you have an idea why
you think it's like mail lead and

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mail dominated. Typically in groups of
women, that's just gonna be someone's going

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to have that opinion. So usually
because this is from the female groups that

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I'm in, Yeah, yeah,
of course, so no, I just

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I just would like to hear a
situation where they have a problem with it,

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because I'd be like, I just
want to know why they're hell they

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have a problem with a female led
company like that. There should be no

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problems all. It should be open
competition. Everyone should be able to have

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the opportunity to have a business or
running business within the industry. I think

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there's that one company down in Detroit, calumex Is that the women owned grow

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down there. Oh report on that
I don't remember, and I believe they're

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crushing it down there. So it's
good to see it. I mean they

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should. There is problems with it
though, because remember m J. Biskind

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last year there was a couple of
guys walking around that's had byweed from mom

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or something. Shirts. Yeah that's
but that's just stupid male like, like

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that's just fucking people being little insecure
boys, you know what I mean.

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Like, I'll call them out right
now for those guys who were the fucking

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hurt, like your little punks,
Like, like, what are you trying

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to prove? Like what is your
number one go to strain? If money

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was not a factor? M wow, gmo Chan's never a factor. I

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love me some GMO first class for
anything with GMO in it. It just

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stuck out to me so much like
that garlic turpine. I don't know how

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they got it to taste so good
like to me, but it's like that

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Beta Carrey offoline mix with that mercy
or piney. I don't know whatever that

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mixture is. It's just that gas
bunk and it's actually in this damn all

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right it is. It's a first
class bok. That's tough for me.

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I don't have Why did you say
money not an option, just like meaning

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like a specific like I would assume
like that top shelf. Yeah, I

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got you, meaning like it's expensive. Yeah. Yeah, man, it's

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a good question. I just said
GMO most strains, But I I you're

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looking for like a specific brand,
no strain. Strange strains tough for me?

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Well, I could see strain price
wise, because if you if people

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you're thinking maybe cookies or some of
those exotic strains that have like just like

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a limited drop, they're usually a
little bit more expensive for me. Man,

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I don't know skunk, maybe some
skunk, but I don't I don't

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find Yeah, I could find it
now, ye put Money's not an issue.

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I pay for it. There you
go, Okay, I see,

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and that's why she put it in
there. Well, I just put in

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my head like it's hard for me
to put a straight And there used to

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be like that in that back of
the day where like Brownie Scout came out

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and they were like we had forty
percent and like that was expensive. But

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nowadays I feel like unless it's like
a hot seller, they don't do that,

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like the runs thing. But I
don't even know though, because like

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a lot of people are fabricating testing
results nowadays, so something. I mean,

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I'm hesitant on some of the results
too. Nowadays when it's testing so

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high, you just got to see
who the tester is, like what the

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verdius is just like scam Yeah right, I feel that. I feel that

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Where do you see the Michigan cannabis
industry in five years, five years.

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You know, it's a good question. Three billion by the end of this

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year, So five years from now, that takes us to what we're end

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put its twenty fourth about twenty twenty
nine, give a take. Well,

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I mean, I guess the one
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can see can I see it continuing
to grow, like in revenue, Like

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you know how we just said hit
three billion or whatever. I'm sure we'll

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be at like six by then,
you know, like it's gonna keep growing.

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I think what we're gonna start doing
is seeing in like some of these

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companies start falling off, some of
these companies who just got in because they

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had a bunch of money, and
then they come in and they're like,

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oh, look at all our marketing, Look at all these stores we've got.

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And then I think we'll start seeing
that separation. Finally. I think

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we've been kind of seeing it now
because companies are starting to fall, but

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like I feel like we'll start to
see like more of the good companies that

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have good quality product stand out.
At least. This is my hope,

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you know, because I think for
a while there it's just been like I

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see that sign, So I trust
them, and like you said, like

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as you try these companies, you
try new companies, you try new companies,

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eventually you realize I don't like them, I do like them. So

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hopefully that starts dividing a little bit
more with the quality. So I'm hoping

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that that happens. Yep. You
know, as far as the league galities

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go, I'd love to see probable
smells start to go away, or probable

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cause from smell go away. That's
that it would be a dream in the

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next five years bad and then h
weight limits pointless, what about you?

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Probable cause would be good. I
continue to see the market growing, h

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Just like you said, six billion
is probably a good number. I mean

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we're we're twenty about twenty. We
got legal in twenty eighteen and it's twenty

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twenty three, so about five years. But we really didn't go online until

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like mid twenty nineteen. Under twenty
nineteen. Yeah, so maybe maybe it's

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six seven billion market, seven billion
dollar market. That'd be insane though,

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right, But you now you have
a lot of more cities opening up.

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That's one thing. I don't know
if we'll see it, but I really

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hope we see it. Is the
change in like green zones, like we

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stopped seeing this so much, like
weed's not allowed in these counties, like

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to open consumption would be dope where
you smoke outside, Yeah, that'd be

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sick. And more consumption lounges where
you could just go in and just get

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out. No. Yeah. But
she alsoid, like, what do you

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think is gonna happen? Like based
on now, I think there will be

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more. I think too. But
then she said, Michigan. Just talk

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on Michigan. I'm not talking about
the homemark, you know, I think

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just in Michigan. I do think
we're gonna see a lot more consumption lounges

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be a thing because we've talked to
some of these owners and they're like already

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ready so as soon as their city
allows it. Like I think that's gonna

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be a really cool industry, Like
it's basically a bar industry for cannabis.

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I think people can go smoke weed, Like I don't. I don't necessarily

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want to go to a place and
just sit and drink a beer at a

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bar. I know some people do
that to each throwne, but like I

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I don't know. Maybe if I'm
bored alone one night, I wouldn't mind

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going on and just smoking some joints
to meet some new people, right,

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Like that sounds kick ass. So
for me, I feel like that is

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what we're seeing. I think that's
what we'll see a lot, I think.

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I agree. I more consumption lounges
would be great. I think there'll

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be more testing, not testing.
Let me face that, there'll be more

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stuff required on testing results like REMAT
eight and non remediated. It was the

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bud remediated or non remediated. I
think that results from testing. I think

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that will be like a staple on. It will have to be labeled,

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right because like right now, a
lot of people you don't even know if

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your bud has been baked into like
a UV radiation and then it comes out

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clean because it's like filled with pesticides
or mold or bugs, right and you

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don't know if you're gonna smoke it
now. I think the label will have

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that. I think we'll eventually have
like turpines on the labels too. And

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I think basically results showing that that
could be interesting because there's that's Yeah,

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I could see some growth in that
because people are already talking about stuff like

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that. Yeah, I don't see
the market really taking a drop if it

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doesn't hit six billions, still around
like four or five billions, just kind

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of off, like what do you
think would happen? What do you think

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is gonn happen to the price in
five years? I don't That's what I

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was thinking because I was trying to
comment on that. But there's no prediction

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on price. It's always just based
off what's around and how many companies,

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right, So I don't know.
I'm curious to see if the drops are

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not. I don't know. I
don't think. I don't know if it

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would drop, Like we get cheaper, can we get cheaper than two dollars

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per rolls? Like by one gets
six free? Like I don't know what

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else we're gonna do here. It's
cheaper to get weed than it is by

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a snack at the gas station.
I smoke weed now because it's cheaper than

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cigarettes. Back of chips two bucks, I get like eight. Sometimes it's

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unpredictable with what could happen, especially
like if things do happen with your criminalization

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with the with the United States,
like that could affect Michigan because then if

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it's decriminalize, like hopefully we keep
important exports stuff out right, because if

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they do criminalize stay wide, then
technically you could get import at weed coming

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in states and we don't want yeah, we don't want garbage. So I

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don't know there's a lot of factors
with that because we're still in that.

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Like it's so exponential with weed right
now, the growth. Do you think

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it will ever be federally legal?
I do hope for decriminalization, and I

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want dicriminalization first. Federalization like sounds
good like legalization, It sounds all cool

406
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on paper, but that decriminalization would
like jump start to legalization. I'm just

407
00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:08.440
worried if we jump to legalization,
like we run to federal legalization because it's

408
00:26:08.440 --> 00:26:11.720
like, hey, it's legal,
then all this state it's just the laws

409
00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:15.839
aren't ready. The states won't be
ready. That don't aren't ready for cannabis.

410
00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:18.200
You'll start getting weeds shipped in from
Thailand because it's legal now. If

411
00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:22.400
you jump to those laws, we're
not ready. There's way too many precautions,

412
00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:25.200
there's way too many laws that need
to be in place and testing things.

413
00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:27.759
You think humans are ready or people
that doesn't don't have weed, if

414
00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:30.880
it just went legal, they'd be
ready. Those cops wouldn't know what to

415
00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:33.680
do with themselves. The government officials
wouldn't know what to do with themselves.

416
00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:38.519
So I think we can be I
just think there's certain levels to decriminalization that

417
00:26:38.519 --> 00:26:42.440
should happen first. Yeah, I
think decriminalization happens first, and I think

418
00:26:42.519 --> 00:26:48.119
the legalization will eventually happen years.
Because if legalization happens first, there's gonna

419
00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:51.039
be a lot of people trying to
make money. There'll be a lot more

420
00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:55.799
money focused than there will be like
on what matters and getting people out of

421
00:26:55.839 --> 00:26:59.599
jail and getting people like social equity
programs. There are gonna be so many

422
00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:02.960
things that are missed. Look how
long it's taking each state to go legal

423
00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:06.960
and build these programs up. If
we just went legal as a whole,

424
00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:11.759
these states in general would all be
like so like lost with themselves. They

425
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:15.079
wouldn't even know what to begin with. Like Kansas. I don't think Kansas

426
00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:17.839
has anything. They went legal today, they'd be like, oh shit,

427
00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:21.880
what they don't. And that's what
I was saying, is this they're not

428
00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:25.839
ready, Like so I do hope
for it? Do I see it coming?

429
00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:29.680
Possibly? Because who is that Chuck
Schumer always has a bill like every

430
00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:33.359
other day. Every Look how you
laughed because you already know what I'm talking

431
00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:37.640
about. Well, because this bill, Yeah, exactly so Chi again,

432
00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:41.400
Chuck Schumer has been trying, like
there's people trying consistently. I just don't

433
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:45.160
think everyone's ready. And I think
the steps to get there are jacominization is

434
00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:48.400
safe banking, because if you start
doing that and you show the businesses that

435
00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:52.839
they can bank safely, make their
money safely, stop fucking with people just

436
00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:56.000
growing we like you start getting like
a little bit looser, get amount of

437
00:27:56.039 --> 00:27:57.839
jail, and I people can go
out jail. Right, There's a lot

438
00:27:57.880 --> 00:28:00.319
of things that should happen first,
and I do think we'll get there.

439
00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:04.279
I just think it's a lot longer, like five ten years hopefully, we

440
00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:08.160
can't be there. If you could
fix one thing about the industry, now,

441
00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:12.400
what would it be, I mean
to go to dicriminization, safe banking.

442
00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:18.279
That would be like might at least
safe banking because like you know,

443
00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:22.680
businesses came and you can't there's so
many things you can't do without dicriminization.

444
00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:25.920
It's because in safe banking, because
if you decriminalize it and you get it

445
00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:29.079
off the schedule list. Then you
can start opening up to like I said,

446
00:28:29.079 --> 00:28:32.240
banking, there's transfers that they can
do, there's credit cards things they

447
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:34.799
can open. There's I don't who
knows the insurance discounts you might be able

448
00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:38.480
to get for medical, Like who
knows the possibilities right loans for your businesses

449
00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:41.920
write offs? Because right now businesses
can't do any write offs. So I

450
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:47.079
just you can't write off any marketing. You can't write not marketing supplies and

451
00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:48.160
all that type of stuff. You
can't write any of that off. Yeah,

452
00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:51.519
so I lost track. What was
the question again? I lost I

453
00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:52.480
kind of went on on a tangent
there for a second. If you could

454
00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:57.559
fix one thing about the industry.
One thing I think that's my issue is

455
00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:02.400
like that there's a couple and I
think I think with like a local safe

456
00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:07.880
banking is huge, but that's more
just focus on the legal side, like

457
00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:11.839
the rack side, safe banking.
As far as personal side, man,

458
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:15.359
I think we canna get to people
how to jail. Yes, that's the

459
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:18.079
most messed up thing is it's why
is it taking so long to get people

460
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:21.960
out of jail? Like, what's
the issue? It's legal people are making

461
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:23.440
millions. Just let them out.
Everyone's like, oh, there's gotta be

462
00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:26.319
a corporate sees him. No Jo, let them out like they've been in

463
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:30.400
jail for how fucking long, wrongfully
if it's non violent criminal charges. That's

464
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:33.000
the big thing with the industry is
some of the ship that should be happening

465
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:37.720
is taking forever, and then some
of the ship that makes people money somehow

466
00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:38.920
it gets done. Dude, we're
a three billion dollars market. They should

467
00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:41.200
be anyone should be out of jail
like them, all the attacks revenue.

468
00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:48.720
One thing I would like to see
is the communities come together medical and rack

469
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:51.920
and have like a farmer's market where
you can be able to have be able

470
00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:56.279
to have everyone in a competition,
from recreational brands to home growers that grow

471
00:29:56.279 --> 00:30:00.839
in their twelve plants, to people
in medical. You got your medical and

472
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:03.519
then you got your caregivers. Everyone
can any I think that we were talking

473
00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:06.440
about what you brought up earlier.
That's a big thing as industries. There's

474
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:08.519
too much division, right, there's
too much this. I'm at this,

475
00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:11.279
I'm at this, and it's like
I get why, you know, because

476
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:14.759
there is some wrong things, Like
what you were saying from the female perspective,

477
00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:18.319
there are some like male chauvinistic type
of bullshit, right, which is

478
00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:21.000
wrong. And it's like the same
thing with you just said, right,

479
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:23.519
there needs to be some change,
and the issue is with medical and wreck

480
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:26.440
is that And the same thing with
the female male is that there's a division.

481
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:30.680
Like we gotta start creating bridges.
Otherwise it's like, how are we

482
00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:34.000
going to get to being fully to
criminalize and legal if our inside of our

483
00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:38.920
own industry we're already divided. We
have to come together to convince the rest

484
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:42.279
of the world that weet is fine. Otherwise they're gonna be look at they're

485
00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:48.400
already fighting and drop the tacks right
too, that's just money. But yeah,

486
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:52.039
yeah, I just think there's too
much division in this industry based what

487
00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:55.599
I'm not like I love That's why
I said I love the caregivers side.

488
00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:57.519
I bought some chronic off that side, you know, big going to the

489
00:30:57.519 --> 00:31:02.039
big Cloud events and playing in they're
all events like as a playing blue my

490
00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:04.480
Sax thing, like I love them, you know, but I also see

491
00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:07.359
what he went through with seven felonies
and he was like scared to like leave

492
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:11.799
his house. You know. It's
like it's also wrong that weed is treated

493
00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:15.039
like that, like we need to
find that middle ground for everything because it's

494
00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:18.039
too much like you're wrong, like
like let's let's let's be right together.

495
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:25.200
You know, No, it's truly, it's frustrating. And then this one's

496
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:30.240
my question. Yeah, of course
soil or a hydro grown? And why

497
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:33.160
go ahead? D Yeah, I'm
gonna go soil grown. I don't care

498
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:42.279
as long as it tastes good.
That's that's that's why. I don't know,

499
00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:45.240
because you grow hydro poorly? Or
was it like I don't mean to

500
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:48.720
say, I don't know. I'm
asking no, Like, listen, I'm

501
00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:52.559
you made it like a statement,
You're like, you grow hydro poorly?

502
00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:55.799
No? Was it because you grew
hyer? Like did you grow soil?

503
00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:57.039
Because you're like, oh man,
I keep sucking this up, grows some

504
00:31:57.160 --> 00:32:00.519
soil. I don't know. I'm
just asking, dude, I don't grow.

505
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:05.480
No, it's valid. I try, I did I did you do

506
00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:13.240
you kill too crazy? No?
Hydro I didn't do well with I didn't

507
00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:15.079
do great with coco either. A
lot of people love cocoa, so rock

508
00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:17.880
well, right, but don't you
have the freedom like non stop? Yeah,

509
00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:21.400
I just like soil. The reason
why I like it because it's a

510
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:25.000
the seed, it's nature, Mother, Earth, planet, dropping, it's

511
00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:30.000
organic right, just letting it grow. And I guess if I was to

512
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:32.839
have a preference, I would say
soil, and only because my homie who

513
00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:37.079
grew hydro in my house, fucked
up my ceiling No, in one of

514
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:40.440
my closets in the next door,
I grew some hydro and the thing cracked

515
00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:45.119
and water just dripped through my ceiling
lights. My lights still doesn't work well,

516
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:46.880
like the fan doesn't work in my
kitchen, still shout out. You

517
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:51.279
know who you are, homie,
We're homie school, drop your name.

518
00:32:51.960 --> 00:32:54.839
It's not that I'm saying that I
don't like hydro grow or hydro grown product.

519
00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:58.480
And I don't know if I love
cannabis in general. I love it

520
00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:00.480
all. But for me, if
I was to grow, I soil,

521
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:05.440
and if it is growing and soil, I mean there's there's some really good

522
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:07.559
that's growing. I just remember being
like I can tell it's hydro. I

523
00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:12.559
don't know if I could not hydro
rock will because I'm not going to say

524
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:15.880
the company name, But wasn't that
one from Detroit that we got those four

525
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:19.680
A samples from they were grown hydroponically, and I would have not been able

526
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:25.799
to tell. I think I got
to know the brand goes. Yes,

527
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:28.720
I tried to mute you, but
I guess I just didn't want to throw

528
00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:35.240
one of the buster. You heard
it through her mic So it doesn't matter.

529
00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:37.279
That's funny. Don't need edit it. No, I mean, it's

530
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:39.759
dude, it's still I don't think
it matters. I just don't know.

531
00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:42.880
I don't like to put people's business
out there, you know, because if

532
00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:45.400
they like keep their secrets, you
know, like, but at the end

533
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:46.279
of the day, like I don't
know if it matters, like if you're

534
00:33:46.279 --> 00:33:51.000
getting that yield and it tastes good, like I mean, do you have

535
00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:52.680
a pennon on that. I'm very
curious because we were kind of talking about

536
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:58.039
that before the show in a few
months though. Oh right, which the

537
00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:01.880
difference You're saying, yeah, yeah, you're testing soil right now. My

538
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:08.679
friend is growing hydro nice and I'm
helping him so he can teach me.

539
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:13.199
Okay, that's a good good way
to learn, hands on learning. It

540
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:15.519
mean, that's the best way to
do it. I mean, when you

541
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:17.960
have someone able to teach you.
It's a lot easier than trying it yourself.

542
00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:22.920
You got a mentor, Yeah you
had a mentor? Yeah yeah,

543
00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:30.480
harpy yeah yeah. No. So
yeah, it's just it's wild crazy.

544
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:34.400
I don't I don't know why there's
such a like a I grow soil,

545
00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:36.480
I grow this, I grow this
because like at the day, it's like

546
00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:39.880
you grow chronic, Like honest,
it's clean, grown quality. But I'm

547
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:47.920
all about it, so that that's
my main preference. So and then my

548
00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:57.639
last question is what should someone do
if they get too high? Get too

549
00:34:57.719 --> 00:35:02.119
high? Okay, take a dabt
No, I'm oh god, I was

550
00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:06.039
just taking a damp so I thought
that was funny. It might fall right

551
00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:08.639
to sleep like screen. Well,
actually I don't have any up here,

552
00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:14.199
but we were at was it was
m gun. It was kind of gun

553
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:17.440
talking about that. Yeah, Anti
Toke. We got this ship called Anti

554
00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:22.320
Toke and allegedly, I mean I
drank a hav It kind of worked,

555
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:23.880
but like if you take it,
it's supposed to melt out your buzz or

556
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:28.880
meltow out the high. So there's
Anti toke. Now that's if I was

557
00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:35.840
gonna suggest. Apparently that works,
I guess The idea is calm your mind,

558
00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:37.719
because like my brain is thinking like
too high. I'm been too high

559
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:40.079
in a while, but I'm comparing
it to like if I like trip out

560
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:44.079
on mushrooms, right, if you
just got a calm down, because at

561
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:46.320
the day, it's like you're just
overthinking in your head. So it's like

562
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:50.719
if you're getting too high and you
feel like overwhelmed, just sit, relax,

563
00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:52.679
don't smoke for a second, get
some water, try to get your

564
00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:58.039
mind off high feeling. Because sometimes
that's just like in your head, you

565
00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:00.400
know, because once you start smoking
weed, you know, if you see

566
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:02.440
a cop, that buzz goes away. So it's a lot of mental high.

567
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:06.320
When you're getting used to being high, it's a lot in your head.

568
00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:09.320
You'll be high. You'll get through
it. You'll get through it,

569
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:16.800
will who will? You will?
Maybe maybe eat some food, but it's

570
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:20.199
actually not a bad eat some food. I just say, do some normal

571
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:22.239
ship some stuff that you weren't.
Just take a couple of deep breaths,

572
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:28.320
close your eyes. There are a
couple of deep breaths, you know,

573
00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:34.480
and straw yeah who's but yeah,
I think that that honestly be the buss.

574
00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:38.119
Yeah, or take a nap,
if you can just fall asleep,

575
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:42.320
just go to sleep, if you'll
wake up though, that's simes. No,

576
00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:43.920
no, no, That's what I'm
trying to say. It's like me

577
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:45.400
because like if I'm in my head, I'm like I hadn't fall asleep,

578
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:50.719
There's no way because I'm just like
stare at the wall, yea with my

579
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:55.239
eyes shot or that that stare that
tunnel vision type of vibe you get sometimes

580
00:36:55.440 --> 00:37:00.280
yeah, yeah, And I think
the big thing for me, especially like

581
00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:06.679
getting into the industry now, Like
I just want to say this because like

582
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:08.800
if you do have a chance to
go to those farmers market caregiver events,

583
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:13.159
go to them because you get to
really see where this culture and community came

584
00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:16.239
from. And don't I love dispensaries
like the convenience of them, and some

585
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:20.440
of them still have that culture cannabis, but the culture cannabis is just like

586
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:22.679
it matters, you know, And
I'm just so glad I got to see

587
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:25.599
that those type events like you know
or you know, so if you can,

588
00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:30.039
you know, go them, see
the caregivers. There's Flint compassion clubs,

589
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:32.679
there's Genesee compassion clubs, there's you
know, they're out there. It's

590
00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:35.960
just they're there again. It's like
we're talking about it's just they're rare.

591
00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:40.599
There's sometimes these smaller niche things just
don't earn as prevalent. So yeah,

592
00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:43.519
that's true. And if you always
got questions, you know, I always

593
00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:45.599
reach out to people within the industry
trying to get your answers, questions,

594
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:51.440
questions answered. Do some research if
there's tons of stuff failable online, Like

595
00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:53.480
I learned a lot of information about
cannabis online, just like you said,

596
00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:57.440
that's where you started and learning a
bunch of your information as well. And

597
00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:00.199
it's easy, it's accessible, it's
right there. Uh, and take it

598
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:04.960
easy when you if you're getting into
it, like you might a couple of

599
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:07.000
times you first might smoke. You
might it might be like, oh I

600
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:08.800
don't feel nothing or anything, but
you will, You'll you'll hit it because

601
00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:13.559
like everyone has a different experience there
first time too, So like just in

602
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:15.239
uh, take it slow, I
guess, and take it easy. Remember

603
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:17.880
if I got high the first time
I tried weed, I don't think so.

604
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:20.800
I think it was the second time, because the first time I tried

605
00:38:20.840 --> 00:38:23.119
it, I was like I barely
inhaled it. I was like first time

606
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:27.239
I got high. Second time,
I was already drunk, so I was

607
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:29.079
pretty sure I got drunk and high, and I was like, this is

608
00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:36.840
run yeah, spring break well John, spring break Yeah, I just went

609
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:39.360
back man taking it back. Jeez, half a life, algo on,

610
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:44.039
I know, crazy, got anything
else for us? Yeah, I mean

611
00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:47.039
honestly, like, I love,
like if any any people have questions or

612
00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:51.039
want to do something like what my
candidates to do. I love this perspective,

613
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:53.719
like I love a female's perspective on
this, because there isn't enough female

614
00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:59.800
perspective in the industry, and there
should be. I think inclusivity in any

615
00:38:59.840 --> 00:39:02.960
industry is so important because when you
deal with any background that's different than yours,

616
00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:06.880
you're going to bring a different perspective. And someone said this to me

617
00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:09.079
a long time ago, and I
really appreciate it. Is that the greater

618
00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:17.039
mind is always wait, how does
it go to, the mind of many

619
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:21.079
is greater than the singular mind or
something to that effect. It basically mean

620
00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:24.679
the mind of many ideas will always
outpower the ideas of one person. And

621
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:29.119
it makes sense because if you one
person brings an even just one small little

622
00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:30.920
idea, and then one person brings
another small idea. It's like now you're

623
00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:36.440
cooking with a whole new recipe.
You know. So I learned this word

624
00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:38.320
and I love it. Inclusivity is
just the best way to do it,

625
00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:43.800
is like, because that's so important
and equity, but inclusivity is just important

626
00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:46.440
because if you have all different backgrounds
and different types of perspectives, I really

627
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:52.559
think that you get a better you
know, industry, business friendships, whatever,

628
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:54.440
like, I just think there's a
more fun out of that way.

629
00:39:55.119 --> 00:39:58.400
Agree. Oh, one more thing, one monther thing. If you're going

630
00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:04.039
in the dispo, checkpack uh testing
date or package date, because if the

631
00:40:04.039 --> 00:40:06.760
products old, it's not gonna be
as good as what it is. If

632
00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:07.920
it's fresher. It's always looking for
the freshest product, you know what.

633
00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:10.000
Let me ask you something real quick, because I don't know who ever asked

634
00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:13.039
this, And we asked a lot
of questions about newbies. Do you have

635
00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:19.960
any suggestions to like newbies getting starting
growing? Just I don't. I don't

636
00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:22.639
have any like to because like you
know, we always talk about tips for

637
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:24.599
growing, tips for growing, and
then this air drew ponics, this hydroponics,

638
00:40:24.599 --> 00:40:28.840
like sometimes like it's overwhelming, like
even for me, who's like,

639
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:30.880
oh, maybe one day I'll grow, and then I think about it,

640
00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:35.400
I'm like know where to fucking start, Like like I don't know. I

641
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:37.960
mean, you gotta get some genetics, so start with either getting some clones

642
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:40.320
or seeds like that's number one first
yet and find a spot where you're either

643
00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:42.960
gonna do it. You're gonna do
it in a tent, and you're gonna

644
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:45.320
build a room. Tent's probably your
easiest and cheapest unless you get like a

645
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:49.000
little closet grow like I did,
but you're not gonna really yield much from

646
00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:51.079
it. I mean, it's a
good starter kit, but you know,

647
00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:55.480
like the lockers up yeah, yeah, yeah. And then honestly, i'd

648
00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:59.800
probably go with some type of bag
of soil that doesn't need much watering for

649
00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:04.440
you to make it as easy as
possible. I prefer led lights. They're

650
00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:07.119
a little bit more expensive, so
maybe try to get a cheaper one,

651
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:13.320
or you could go with a CMH
certifi sera MC mental yeah, seramic mental

652
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:15.199
hlide those aren't bad, or hps, but those costs a little bit more.

653
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:19.119
Get some airflow, so definitely get
like a little fan in there.

654
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:27.039
They'll need a pot. Sorry,
I didn't mean to put you I just

655
00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:30.280
I honestly was none of that.
Just get a timer for the light,

656
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:37.199
do eighteen six for vege, twelve
and twelve for flour. I think that's

657
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:39.039
really it. Okay, cool,
it might easier start rail if you have

658
00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:42.280
any more questions. I thought you
said your last once. I was like,

659
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:44.519
you know what, I just always
wanted to put this out there,

660
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:46.119
and there's I felt like there was
some new bi questions here today and I

661
00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:50.559
appreciate that. Yeah, I mean, that's that's a val Let's start right

662
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:52.800
there, look into it. Do
some research on the strain, find how

663
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:57.039
long it goes eight and nine weeks, give it darkness, maybe get some

664
00:41:57.079 --> 00:42:00.239
cl two in there. How you
just say he says it so casually like

665
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:05.760
okay, Like no, I'd have
to rewatch it, Like if you're listening,

666
00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:07.440
just rewind it, you'll get it. I mean there's some bad I

667
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:09.679
don't know. I'm probably forgetting so
much right now, but yeah, I'm

668
00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:15.559
do some some pest management too.
May ask you a question as you're getting

669
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:19.679
in the industry, like has it
been difficult have you felt like different like

670
00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:22.920
animosity from like the males, or
like okay, because I just want to

671
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:27.679
know because I feel like that's so
messed up, like bro girls, So

672
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:36.079
okay, I am good with like
connecting with people and finding what they're good

673
00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:39.679
at, and I like to learn
from everyone else because like, I feel

674
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:44.400
like it's got to be different coming
like as a female, like cannabis,

675
00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:46.559
you know, industry person as we're
like the male. It's just it's just,

676
00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:50.559
you know, I never thought about
how different the perspective is coming in.

677
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:53.840
Oh, some people think I'm stupid, let's see. I feel like

678
00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:58.519
that comes just with prejudice, just
their own prejudice though hotually it's like the

679
00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:04.280
douchey guys that like, oh yeah, I'm sorry if you talk like that

680
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:12.960
in my bad Like I just like
I just like shaw, I don't know,

681
00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:15.559
I don't know, like and that's
just wrong. And I just was

682
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:19.679
curious because like I think that's the
issue. Is like why you won't see

683
00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:23.760
a lot of female people coming in
the industry is because if they deal with

684
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:28.480
those tribulations, so it's like we
should be you should just be inclusive because

685
00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:30.960
it's like, I don't know,
well, just those guys always end up

686
00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:37.039
looking really stupid, so they are
That's what that's what it shows you if

687
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:40.119
you're that. It's funny to me
some one girls get discouraged. I never

688
00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:50.920
understand because they're usually really sketchy guys
and likes, well, hey man,

689
00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:53.480
some of the loudest voices of the
dumbest you know what I mean, Like,

690
00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:55.960
you know what I mean, just
because they're yelling doesn't mean they know

691
00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:00.639
more. They just might be louder. It's because sometimes times that's like what

692
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:02.599
people do is like they try to
grab that power. So I yeah,

693
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:06.920
if you are a female trying to
get in this industry, hopefully that doesn't

694
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:09.880
discourage you as one or two men, because like, fuck them, you

695
00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:15.800
know what I mean? Like this, they are nice, they're not creepy

696
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:19.039
guys, right, well, they're
okay. That's good. It's not Hollywood,

697
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:23.599
like, hey man, you know
there's some fuck up industries out there.

698
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:25.599
I'm just saying, can't I don't
know. I didn't. I'm just

699
00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:28.920
saying, I don't know how it
is, you know. So I'm really,

700
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:31.800
I'm really you're enlightening me a bit
because I really don't understand that perspective.

701
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:35.519
You don't like, that's not something
I have to face. So I'm

702
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:38.639
curious because because like, I don't
know, I personally like the big thing

703
00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:43.199
for us is like I've we've always
i've always felt like the outside industry because

704
00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:45.320
we've been just trying to do media
recoverage and like really working our way in

705
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:49.199
the industry. I just felt like
we've just got the industry. So like,

706
00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:52.639
yeah, it's just I don't know, it's a shame that people are

707
00:44:52.639 --> 00:45:00.320
gonna judge you based on their own
prejudice. You know. Yeah, A

708
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:02.639
man, keep going, don't stop, because first off, love your name,

709
00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:07.360
Mike Canna. Gotta say I love
it just saying it's an m I

710
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:12.519
in there too. If I remember, I saw that m I canna best

711
00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:15.119
deal? Oh shit, am I
canna best? M I canna cast?

712
00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:17.199
Where there we go? So I
thought that was cool. I mean,

713
00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:22.320
you know, well you're I can't
fam you know what I mean. So

714
00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:25.960
now I appreciate you bringing these questions. This was a good perspective. We

715
00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:30.719
haven't had this happen to us usually
on ours. We've been on others and

716
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:35.719
that guy uh ask questions and whatnot, So this was a good take.

717
00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:39.000
I'll appreciate you bringing this idea to
us and getting the questions from everybody in

718
00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:42.880
those groups. It's pretty cool.
Thank you for having me. Yeah,

719
00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:45.079
and anyone in those groups please reach
out to us. We'd love to have

720
00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:49.039
anyone else on if they're and actually, if there are any female owned businesses

721
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:51.360
that you like, you know,
or anyone wants to highlight, please reach

722
00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:52.440
out. We love to have him
on. Understanding, we love to have

723
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:57.360
him on and highlight them the best
we can and promote them. So yeah,

724
00:45:57.400 --> 00:45:59.840
I mean everyone has try to give
the voice. That's when we do

725
00:45:59.880 --> 00:46:01.000
the yeah, and that's what I'm
trying to say. Yeah, you know,

726
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:07.119
yeah, so look look into look
into different products, brands. You

727
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:09.519
have any questions, reach out to
us. Check out Mike Canna, bestie,

728
00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:14.159
go check out our stuff, follow
her, show her some love.

729
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:19.840
Anything you want to say when you
want to shout out, No, Nope,

730
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:22.960
no shout outs by No. We
appreciate you coming on though. We're

731
00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:25.960
appreciating the trip out to the studio
and everything, and so thank you for

732
00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:29.400
having me. Oh yeah, No, if you ever want to do this

733
00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:31.880
again or you get another rounded questions
like you, run it back always.

734
00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:37.840
So yeah, most definitely this was
fun. Any perspective this time on this

735
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:43.079
episode, and thank you for joining
us, and UH as always here to

736
00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:45.519
advocate, educate, and inspire.
Next time, y'all,

