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on? Time for what's happening?
Well, we are on top of the

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RNC of course today, kicking off
on the heels of the assassination attempt over

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the weekend. Joining us now at
Jesse Jane Duff gunnery sergeant. Served in

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the Marine Corps active duty twenty years
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Uh well, how are things going
in Milwaukee? Well, it's good

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to be here. I'm so excited
that you all invited me. They're doing

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a roll call vote right now on
the floor. I happen to be with

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the DC Director of Veterans for Trump, so I'm kind of wearing two different

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hats today right now. Now,
the breaking news is that he has selected

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jd. Vance. Yes, yes, I mean this is absolutely exciting and

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I'm going to tell you why I
have a preference for a JD. Vance.

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He's a UNI the State's Marine.
I served twenty years on active duty,

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so you know, come on,
I have to go at the Marine.

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Hey. Let me now that means
things will get done. Let me

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ask you something about that. I
have said this for a long time.

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I prefer my presidential candidates, or
in this case vice presidential candidates, to

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have some sort of military experience.
What do you think that means for somebody

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who is in the chain of command
like that as vice president. Well,

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I'm a little torn on that because
I've been very disappointed in our military leaders.

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I'm very disappointed in General Mantis,
who is mad Dog Matison, who

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was an exceptional general but got into
the Department of Defense and seemed to tow

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the party line because often, many, many, many of these generals who

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come out of the Pentagon have been
used to essentially no longer representing Marines,

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but trying to ensure that they please
a commander in chief, which isn't always

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the best case. We also saw
some disasters with General Kelly and General McMaster.

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However, the difference, though,
what I appreciate about with JD.

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Vance is he was not a career
marine, and he did serve in active

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duty in combat, and he is
a self made man. He comes from.

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If you ever watch, watch,
or read the book Hill Billy Eulogy,

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it talks about growing up dirt dirt
or from a drug addicted family.

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Everything that could have gone wrong for
this man, and yet he went on

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joined the Marine Force, served in
active duty in combat, came off of

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active duty, and became a self
made man. I think that's a rags

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to riches story that essentially shapes what
all Americans see as a positive thing.

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So in his particular case, he
is not being a career senior level general,

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but a man of the people.
Because if you're an enlisted man on

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active duty, particularly that of the
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you have learned what it means to
be in life or death situations.

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You understand what it means this recruiter
draft children to go off and fight our

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wars. So in his particular case, I think that military experience is exceptional

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because we're talking about the hardest route
he possibly could have taken. He didn't

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take a cushy route just to get
a gi bill. He took a very

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difficult route. Wasn't in the infantry. He was in a war zone.

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And essentially he has a benchmark to
understand the importance of national security and ensuring

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that we negotiate and make good deals
with countries. So that we're no longer

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putting our young men and women in
harm's way. He also went to Yale,

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he has his law degree. He
sees both ways. I mean hill

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Billy Elegy was a book that I
read shortly after Trump was elected because it

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was kind of sold as a how
we got here book, and it was

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kind of odd to me that Donald
Trump, somebody that I know from the

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reality TV world, would rise to
this level. And it really did help,

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you know, especially out here in
California, how many people in other

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parts of the country feel about how
they felt so disenfranchised and the elites were

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keeping them down and the jobs were
disappearing. And it really does a good

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job of laying out how he came
to realize how Trump came to prominence by

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focusing on his family. They're an
appalation and the like. Yes, and

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he understands what the average American is
struggling with because it was such a real

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life experience for him. Understanding that
not all families have an easy path,

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Understanding what it means right now to
have high inflation where the average family has

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to make nine to eleven thousand dollars
more a year just to make ends.

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Me This is really kind of a
touch point for not just your blue collar

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workers, but your lower income to
understand what it means to rise up,

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have better education opportunities, where the
government has often intervened and prevented people from

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actually accelerating because it's not solve the
problem, but only enables the problem.

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For example, right now, three
hundred Americans a day are dying of drug

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overdoses because of these open borders,
because of the cartels, the money over,

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and the drugs over, I should
say, and I think jd Vance

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can actually touch upon that because he
has the history of drug addiction in his

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own family, so he knows what
this means. He understands what this means.

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So you know, many people may
not realize that jd. Vance,

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as successful as he is today,
he did not always have that presence or

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that what many would have fought would
have been a dead end road for him.

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And hopefully that that history, that
life experience is something that he could

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he could bring to the office.
So Jesse Jane Duff, we greatly appreciate

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your time, Thanks for your passion. Well, we're excited to be here

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and let's let's just everybody remember if
you want to volunteer for the campaign.

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You can sign up at Trumpforce forty
seven dot com Trump Forced forty seven dot

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com. We've got to get everybody
out to vote. We got to make

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it too big to rig. And
thank you for your service. By the

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way, well, thank you and
take the hill motivators. We got a

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little ways to go yet before we
crush Joe Biden on an Thanks Jesse Jane

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Duff there in Milwaukee again. Republican
National Convention has started. And the breaking

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news that happened just as we started
that interview is that former President Trump has

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chosen Ohio Senator JD Vance to be
his vice presidential running mate. We'll come

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back and talk more about it.
I need to say things like crush Joe

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Biden. I mean, he's an
old man. Have a little. It

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doesn't take much, he doesn't.
I mean, come on. Another massive

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story that probably would have been bigger
than all the others if we didn't have

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the events of Saturday, was that
we found Judge Ailing Cannon has dismissed the

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federal criminal case against Trump that charges
him with taking highly sensitive national security secrets

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with him when he went to mar
A Lago. Help us figure all of

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This out is Royal Oaks Legal analys
for ABC News. Royle, it seems

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like the judge didn't really touch or
from what I read, didn't touch the

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actual documents being taken to mar A
Lago. But like we've seen with the

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Supreme Court rulings, that maybe there
was just no standing for this special Council

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to investigate. Yeah, exactly right, Shannon. This judge did not talk

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about the merits at all, you
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by taking top secret stuff out of
the bathroom at mar A Lago. Instead,

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what she did was she dismissed the
case, the Florida case, on

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the ground that Joe Biden's Attorney general
broke the law when he appointed Jack Smith

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as special counsel. And she concluded
that for two reasons. First, the

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judge said a special Council may only
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Congress approves that appointment, and here
it was the Attorney General americ Ireland who

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appointed him, not the president,
and there was no Senate confirmation. The

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second argument she made was a judge
appointed by Donald Trump. Of course,

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she said that a special council's budget
can't be a blank check funds have to

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be approved by Congress, and here
the Attorney General's Office has just been shoveling

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out up to twenty five million dollars
in counting to Jacksmith with no approval by

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Congress. Now this is controversial because
several big time I'm the special counsel in

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the past have been approved pretty much
the way the Biden administration handled at the

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Robert Muller for the Russia collusion,
at Mars Walsh back in the day on

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Iran contract. But this judge said, you know, that's based on a

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misunderstanding of the law, and so
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the US Supreme Court to get the
final word. The bottom line, of

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course, is no Florida trial against
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of the criticisms Chuck Schumer had Senate
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have been handling this case because she
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not going to handle this case impartially. Is there a process by which this

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goes to the Supreme Court as part
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different judge. The only way this
judge would be dumped off the case is

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if Jack Smith and the Biden administration
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incompetent, or she was drawn because
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The idea that a Trump appointee is
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hear cases involving Trump, of course, is a croc legally speaking, because

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as we've seen many times in other
Donald Trump cases, a Democrat appointed judges

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and Democrat DA's have gone after him
hammer and tong, and nobody has a

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legitimate basis for criticizing that fact.
You know, you look at every decision

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separately and say was that fair?
You know, the appellate courts will sort

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it out if it isn't. So, yeah, Jack Smith is going to

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say, this is the last straw. She's made a bunch of stupid pro

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Trump decisions. Let's get rid of
her. But you can't do that in

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the federal system. You can't strike
anybody the no free strikes like we have

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in the state court system here in
California. You have to just put up

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with the judge unless there's something really
egregious that would justify recusal or dismissal,

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like a drinking problem. Yeah,
that's a good example. One of the

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sort of underlying issues in this case
has always been the time that they kept

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getting pushed back and push back.
This is never going to see the light

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of day, I mean, and
clearly not before November, right, Yeah,

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So what happens now is the Jack
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Eleventh Circuit. That's the problem for
him. Seven of the twelve judges that

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the the Eleventh Circuit are appointed by
Republican presidents, five by Democrats, and

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then whoever loses there goes up to
the US Supreme Court. All this is

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going to take months and years,
and as you say, if Donald Trump's

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elected, then his new Attorney general
will of course dismiss all the Trump related

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cases. He could even pardon himself
as to the federal charges, not state.

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But yeah, from a timing standpoint, you know, this is tremendous

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news for Donald Trump. Royal Oaks. Thank you for the breakdown. Appreciate

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it, you bet, thanks Royle. Of course, ABC News legal analysts,

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we just got word. Also I
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will be getting Secret Service protection Kimberley
Guilfoyle due to her face. Gosh,

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it's like Michael Jackson, I mean, what a beautiful girl. And then

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she I don't know what that is. That is clearly some things have been

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done. She didn't need to do
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noise. I don't want you to
do that. I shan't. The FBI

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is also saying now they have been
able to access the shooter's phone. Okay,

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there were problems getting into it apparently, but they have been able to

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unlock the phone. So this hopefully
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sort of pulling back the curtain as
to potential motive for why he took shots

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at former President Trump, why he
ended up killing a bystander and putting two

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others in the hospital. His father
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is going on. I mean,
it was a complete shock. Apparently.

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His dad told police that the son
told him on Saturday that he was headed

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to the gun range. Okay,
that doesn't mean I'm headed to go shoot

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the president or president. So there's
plenty more. Again, the biggest news,

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how do you choose which is which
of these is the biggest news?

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Can we go with the most recent
biggest news, which is the vice presidential

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pick? J Van. I don't
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know nothing about more than forty eight
hours later. Still, still, that's

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a good point. The second most
important news, perhaps is that President former

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president Trump has chosen vice president his
vice president candidate as JD. Vance,

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the senator from Ohio. Former President
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Everybody immediately called for the turning down
of the temperature. Let's let's lower

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the rhetoric a little bit. We're
getting a little crazy. And this is

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a completely expected manifestation of all of
that. And we heard that campaign itself,

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the Biden Harris campaign was going to
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little bit, because they were actually
canceling events today and tomorrow that both the

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president and vice president were supposed to
be doing campaign events in order to Usually,

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by the way, it's kind of
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down their campaign during the convention for
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few moments ago we found out that
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has been chosen as Trump's vice presidential
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account because he ain't doing it.
Just a few minutes ago, wrote here's

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the deal about jd Vance. He
talks a big game about working people,

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but now he and Trump want to
raise taxes on middle class families while pushing

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more tax cuts for the rich.
Well, I don't intend to let them.

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And if you're with me, pitch
in, and then of course you

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can click and donate to the Biden
Harris campaign. So they're still they're still

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dropping some campaign issues out there.
You said that they had this guy's phone,

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a twenty year old shooter. There
was a retired law enforcement expert that

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was on the FBI Joint Terrorism Task
Force that said to Fox that modern technology

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can complicate the effort to discover the
motive. That there are roadblocks up to

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breaking into these phones. He said, today in modern day America and criminal

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investigations just inherently require the access or
the use of these digital devices. No

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crime is committed without the criminal having
evidence on a cell phone or some kind

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of digital device. A problem comes
with trying to break into the device,

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he said. Getting into an encrypted
device proves to be difficult, even if

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that phone is in the hands of
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Apple. Of course we've talked about
this ad nauseum can get into any of

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these devices. I think that the
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here when you're talking about the assassination
attempt of a former president, right well,

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and all this after the attack in
Sam Bernardino, we saw this very

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similar. The FBI announced, in
fact that they were unable to unlock one

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of the phones that they had recovered
because of the security features, and Apple

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was like, yeah, that's why
they're called security features. It's just odd

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that no social media posts have been
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able to be gotten into. Yet, it leaves a lot of room for

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theories. That's the thing, is
that that that vacuum. And I wonder

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where this was twenty years ago.
I mean, I wonder what what's the

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right way to put this? I
wonder what the mechanism for it would have

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been. Twenty years ago, we
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news, immediate video, immediate audio
that we do today. It's odd because

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the FBI came out more than fourteen
hours ago and said that this guy acted

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alone. How do you know that? How can you say that, especially

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if you can't get into the phone
and you can't see what all of his

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encrypted communicay was. Well, listen. I actually struggled with that on Saturday

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a bit. I think we were
talking about it off the air when I

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was saying, you know, within
an hour of the original attack, there

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were still questions about what was what
was he aiming at? I mean,

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was he shooting into the crowd and
the president got nicked, or was he

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actually aiming at the president? Was
this an actual assassination attempt? And I

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think there's still I mean, because
the guy's dead, because we don't have

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those answers, that lack of information, that vacuum, of course is going

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to be filled by people with conspiracy
theories. But are they conspiracy theories if

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I don't know. I mean,
there's there's so much that's going on with

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the story that's pretty I just find
it interesting there's so little information about such

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a massive story. Yeah. The
only other thing that I've really seen is

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that it's official now that the Secret
Service Director, Kim Cheadle, will be

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talking to the House Committee on Government
Oversight and Accountability Monday morning. James Comer,

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in a statement said the United States
Secret Service has a no fail mission,

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yet it failed on Saturday, and
we're talking about that with Steve and

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I mentioned that on Saturday. Just
the idea that counter terrorism organizations, law

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enforcement organizations, and groups have to
be successful percent of the time. Yes,

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and it takes a terrorists or in
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They have to be right one time
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do. So this is where where
is the crack? Where was the crack?

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How do you figure out where to
pin this? And is there some

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person individual responsible? Is it just
somebody who gave up their posts for some

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reason or was this guy able just
to exploit simple mistakes that were made.

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I mentioned the building where this guy
scrambled onto the roof and opened fire.

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He in fact was able to somehow
get on top of this building despite the

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fact it was a staging area for
the local police tactical team that was doing

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overwatch of the crowd. Sources had
previously told ABC News and NBC News in

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fact that the building had been swept, but investigators trying to figure out whether

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roof access had been properly locked down, The gunman did get access to the

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roof without a ladder, According to
some sources that had been briefed on exactly

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what happened, Well, it looks
like you can kind of crawl, like

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there's multi level buildings that lead up
to that roof, Like there's a shed,

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exap on the shed shed, get
onto the roof, right, But

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that's three there, neither here nor
there isn't it. How he got up

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under the roof? How did he
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rifle? I think the other the
images that we talked that we saw come

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out from late Saturday were images behind
the president. You could see Secret Service

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snipers on the buildings behind the President, and they seemed to be looking in

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the direction of from where the shots
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knew what they were looking at,
or that they knew that there was a

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shooter over there. And I mean
a lot of people have been saying,

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oh, they had them in their
sights and they didn't have the ok to

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shoot. But when I talked to
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night, a former assistant director,
he was saying, there's no way that

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they would wait a guy dressed in
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president. Because the snipers are all
pointed out that way, there's no reason

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why somebody, even if they were
on a sniper team, would have their

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gun pointed towards the president. So
the question became what what would they have

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waited for that. There's some explanation
in there about what the snipers saw or

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were looking for looking through their scopes. Did they have the guy in their

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sights? They weren't wait? Were
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for launch? Whatever? I mean. There's hopefully some of the information would

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come out from the Secret Service briefing
that's supposed to take place for some members

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of Congress today, but the public
hearing will be on Monday. Let's go

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down the list of the things that
happened just today, Okay that have nothing

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to do well, some of them
have everything to do with the assassination attempt

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from Saturday. But just today,
right before the show started, we found

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out that the classified Documents case had
been thrown out, the case against former

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President Trump. The judge in that
case, Judge Allen Cannon, decided basically

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that Jack Smith, the Special Council, had been unconstitutionally pointed to take the

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case. Several politicians are suggesting that
Jack Smith appeal that decision and take this

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thing back up to this or take
this case specifically to the Supreme Court so

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that they can make a decision on
that. So that's one thing that happened

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today. The Biden campaign says that
it was suspending it's fifty million dollar ad

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blitz because of what happened on Saturday. But if you remember the news that

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came out last week, it was
that the big donors said ninety million in

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campaign pledged donations are frozen until you
remove him. That this was not the

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campaign saying, you know what,
out of respect for Donald Trump, we're

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not going to run those ads.
This is they can't get into the accounts

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to run the ads. They can't
get into the money that it's that the

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fifty million dollar ad blitz would cost. That's funny. That's a better version

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of it. I mean, that's
their is that, oh, we're not

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going to run these ads. You
know, we're going to be a kinder,

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gentler campaign. Beloney that money's frozen. The Republican National Convention started in

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Milwaukee. Former President Trump is in
Wisconsin, despite the fact that he was

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shot in the ear on Saturday in
that assassination attempt in Pennsylvania. They officially

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nominated him to be the Republican candidate
coming up in November, and we just

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found out a short time ago that
the vice presidential running mate will be James

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David Bowman. That was his first
name before he was then adopted by his

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mother's third husband, James David Vance. JD. Vance the senator, junior

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Senator from the Great State of Ohio. He just was elected last year,

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just assumed office January third elected in
twenty two and then took office of the

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twenty three. Of course, came
to prominence with the memoir from several years

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ago called Hillbilly Elegy. He at
once called Trump America's hitler, said he

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was a giant fraud all of the
things, and then kind of came around.

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Yeah, like I said, he's
there are some things that he's probably

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had to explain. Man, you
know, this is a guy who worked

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and went to Yale Law School,
worked in Silicon Valley. Yes, he

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comes from the Appalachia, but he
also surrounded himself after he got out of

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there with the elite. He talks
about that in the book and it's been

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years since I read it, but
I believe he talks about that about how

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he saw Donald Trump become president and
he and his friends were like, what,

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how did this happen? You know, because they're in their elite bubbles.

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And he goes back to his home
and he talks to the people he

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grew up with. He talks to
family members who have been struggling with loss

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of jobs and addiction from the opioid
crisis and just being helpless and realize that

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there are so many parts of the
country that the elite don't listen to are

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they they are not exposed to.
And that made so much sense to me

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that just because you have one experience
in life doesn't mean that that's the experience

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everybody has. You have no idea
what the struggles are for people in Appalaysia

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where the the jobs have dried up. You know, they look at the

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career politicians, They look at the
Joe Bidens or Barack Obama's as people that

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are so out of touch with their
life. It's interesting because we've said before

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is what does Donald Trump know about
somebody from rural steel mill, Ohio.

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I mean, he talks plainly,
He doesn't talk above them. That's the

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problem they have with the elite politicians
is that they You can't bs these people

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right. They've lived in bs their
whole life. They can see right through

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you. It's why a Gavin Newsom
is never going to be president because he

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comes across his phony. Donald Trump
goes into these towns and he talks like

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a person like he talks like a
normal He talks like one of them.

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JD. Vance joined the Marine Corps
as a combat correspondent in the Iraq War.

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He was in the public affairs division
of the second Marine Aircraft Wing.

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Went to Ohio State the Ohio State, graduated with BA in political science,

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graduated summa cum laud his political science
and philosophy. After graduating, he went

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to Yale Law School. He was
an editor at the Yale Law Journal.

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During his first year. One of
the authors of Battle Him of the Tiger

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Mother, persuaded him to write his
own memoir, which, of course after

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he gets his law degree in twenty
thirteen, you're talking about Hillbilly Elogy,

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the book that he ended up writing. So he considered it running for Senate

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against Shared Brown, declined not to
or decided not to, and Eventually he

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ran for the seat that was vacated
by Republican Rob Portman, and as we

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said, was elected in twenty two, sworn into the Senate January third,

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twenty twenty three. Very little government
experience, at least political experience in terms

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of his time in the Senate.
But he's there and that is going to

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be his JD Vance will be Donald
Trump's running mate. We don't know much

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about what the plan is for the
rest of the day. At the Republican

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National Convention, they're still doing their
role call and he's still I should say,

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they are still piling up the delegates
that they need. They only needed

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twelve hundred and fifteen to win.
They're well over twenty two hundred now.

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His wife is the daughter of Indian
immigrants Usha think about her, Usha Chilli

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Curry Vance. She was born in
San Diego and the two met at Yale

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and then she went on to get
her masters in philosophy Cambridge. Yeah,

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yeah, wow, but very very
accomplished wife. There's enough for a JD

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Vance that he brings to the ticket. He's not going to be a distraction.

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Perhaps, I think that obviously Democrats
are going to have plenty of things

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to pick on him about. Campaign
wise, Well, he's very conservative,

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very anti abortion. I think he
at one point advocated for that federal ban

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at fifteen weeks, but has done
the Donald Trump thing where he says,

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no, it should be left up
to the states. But yeah, they're

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not gonna like anybody. Was there
ever going to be a pick Donald Trump

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made where Democrats would be like,
oh, okay, Well, I thought.

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Another big announcement came out of the
Department of Homeland Security. They said

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that they will be providing RFK Junior
with Secret Service detail after more than a

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year. I believe of him asking
for it. Of course, the part

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of it was back when he was
said he might run as a Democrat for

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president, then he decided to run
as an independent. So, man,

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a lot going on today, and
I'm sure we're going to see it all

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week as we continue our coverage,
of course of the Republican National Convention from

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two thousand miles away. But we'll
have a good time talking about everything that's

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going on all around the world.
I just got a text from someone.

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