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dot Great Detectives dot net. Well, now it's time for this week's episode

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of Filo Vans. The original air
date February the fourteenth, nineteen fifty and

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the title as the Scarface Murder Case, Really Vans. Don't you think you're

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being a little obvious? Don't you
think she rached it? Marcolm? Have

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you ever seen a more beautiful woman
been staring at her for an hour?

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Is our foremost private investigator doing some
really private investigating? That is a leading

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question markot The district attorney should know
better than to prompt a witness. Besides,

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you haven't conceded that she's beautiful.
I can see she's much prettier than

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that, my friend. Besides,
I'm certain she's been trying to attract my

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attention. Rance. She's dining with
a gentleman. Both of them seem to

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me to be mining their own business. Are you sure you're not using a

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little hopeful imagination? Quite? Do
you know the man she's with by any

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chance? No? I don't.
Fact is, I can't make out his

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face very well. You can see
a scar on it. I imagine he's

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about fourty, and he's relatively bald
and quite stocky. There's something familiar about

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him, and there's something very lovely
about his blonde companion. Yes, there

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is. I think she's Malcolm.
Did you see that? The guys see

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what they're leaving, and I could
swear she indicated she wanted me to follow

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her. You intend to go after
her? Yes? Vance wars have been

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fought over last Well, Jack is
paid. Let's go. They've just passed

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the head waiter. You can probably
catch them in the fire before they get

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into the street, all right.
But after we do catch them, then

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what that all depends on? Whether
I did get a signal from the lady.

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Well, here we are, lay
advanced. They've already gone out the

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street door. Oh no, no, the man is still here. You

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see that chapter one to the scar
There he is sitting over there in a

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chair. The man is still here. That's the brakes I get. Come

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with me a minute, will you
right? I beg your pardon, sir.

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Oh what is it the young lady
you were dining with? You mind

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telling me where she is? What
are you talking about? He's talking about

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the young lady you were dining with. We've been watching the two of you

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inside for over an hour. I'm
very sorry, but I'm afraid you,

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gentlemen, were mistaken. What do
you mean. I haven't been with any

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young lady all evening. I'm on
numous Foster. Tell us, sergeant what

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you told me. I can't,
I can't. What's going on, missus

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George Foster? Sergeant Foster was her
husband was murdered a couple of hours ago.

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That's all right, Sergeant Heath is
up at her house now, look

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at the place over. I found
her on my beak, crying just like

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she is now. So I brought
her here to headquarter. I see Missus

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Foster and Missus Foster. Yes,
yes, you want to take it easy,

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Missus Foster, Let Officer Williams take
you back to your house. No,

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no, no, I don't want
to go back there. I don't

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want to go back. My husband
was shocked. I saw him shoot my

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You never want to go back to
that hall. You saw who shot your

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husband? Missus Foster, did you
know the man? No? No,

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I didn't describe him. Yes,
yes, I know exactly what it looks

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like. Well, that'll help us
find him. Williams. Take down a

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description Missus Foster gives you, then
take her into the rogues gallery and see

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if she can find the man in
our fires were liable to crack this case

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without leaving headquarters. Hello, Final
Vans speaking, it's Mark and Vance.

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Are you entirely recovered from that little
restaurant scene last night? Not quite.

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I'd hate to believe that girl wasn't
attractive enough to stay in my memory overnight.

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Don't tell me you found out something
about her. No, that is

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the reason for my call. A
man named Foster was murdered last evening,

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Vans, just about the time we
were having dinner between seven and eight o'clock.

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I mean yes, his wife saw
the killing was able to describe the

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man who fired the shot. More
than that, she made a positive identification

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from a rogue's gallery photograph. The
killer was a man named Norman Jane.

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Really yes, really well, your
untitled do an easy case once in a

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while, Markham. This sounds as
if you have one, does it well,

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doesn't it? Listen? The man
Missus Foster positively identifies as having killed

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her husband at seven thirty last night
is the man we watched every minute between

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seven and eight, The man who
was dining with that beautiful blonde daddy.

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What do you want? Buckles on
a red nan, a black tang,

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a black gate. Look beautiful.
Babies can play Saladay? Why can't you?

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Because I'm not a baby? Bucks
on a red queen, a yellow

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pumpkin. Well, don't bother me. I'm busy. I'm reading. It's

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a very good picture you in the
papers, Norman. It's not so good.

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I think it's beautiful. Shows that
scar on your face so clear.

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Laddie, Oh, what is it
that mister Vance? You told me to

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make guys out in the restaurants.
Awful cute that mister Vance happens to be

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awful smart, you make sure you
never talked to him, never see him

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again. You understand that. But
you gaus know who I am. How

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could I ever talk to him or
see him? You know he is sure

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we could go to see him.
Only Baby, You're not that stupid,

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are you? Who says I'm stupid? You do every time you open your

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mouth what this newspaper says. And
I'm going to be arrested for murder because

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of you. The disc turning pile
of vans are going to be my alibi.

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They'll swear they saw me in the
restaurant with you at the time George

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Foster was shot. Now, Missus
Foster, please calm down for just one

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moment. You seem to have made
a terrible mistake. It wasn't a mistake,

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mister Markam. I swear it wasn't. I saw the man who killed

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my husband. It was this Norman
James, the man whose picture I picked

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out from the police Fire's been mistaken. I saw him. I'll never forget

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his face when he shot my husband. He did it. I tell you,

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he did it, Missus Foster.
I disliked saying this to you,

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but it would be physically impossible for
him to be in the restaurant where I

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saw him between seven and eight o'clock
and at your house killing your husband at

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the very same time, now,
wouldn't it. I don't know and I

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don't care. And there is a
possibility, of course, that Norman James

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had a twin brother, in which
case I can figure out what happened checking

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into his background. Now, mister
Markham, you're the district attorney. You

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know all about murders and now it
buys and all that sort of thing.

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I don't know anything about them.
Well I know is my husband was killed

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and I saw the man who did
it, and that man was Norman James.

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I swear it was Norman James.
I don't doubt either your sincerity or

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your identification, Missus Foster, but
there are certain excuse me, I mean,

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yes, Williams, what is it? Check on Norman james background.

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Mister Markham was an like child.
No brothers or sisters, winn or any

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other guy. That's definitely I see, Thank you, Williams. All right,

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No, what so the man had
nold twin brother. I saw him

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killed my husband. When you say
you saw him in the restaurant, at

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the same time. Not only saw
him, I spoke to him in the

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fire. What does this mean,
missus Foster, I say to you in

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all sincerity, I wish I knew. Daddy, I've got it. What

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oh black chokos on a nary?
Right, daddie Baby, you're a genius,

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and take me out somewhere for the
geniuses. Get hungry too. You

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know you're gonna stay right here in
your apartment. You'll have your Dennis sent

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Dan. You're not going to move
out of this place until I say so.

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Why do I have to stay right
here in my apartment? Where can

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I go out? You can go
out during the day, but keep away

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from any places where a man might
see you. I don't want file of

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ants tracking you down. I don't
want them to talking to you. I

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never talked to strangers somehow, Patty
baby, what you have make strangers talk

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to you? Right now? I'm
an easy street. Nobody's got a thing

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on me, and except one little
detail, I'm completely in the clary.

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Who could that be? It would
be the detail I was talking about right

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on time too. I'll go to
the door. You take the gun on

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my top coat pocket. Find a
silence in the other pocket screwed down the

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end? Am I a loute myself? I'm coin and hold everything. I'll

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get you got silence, you can
put it on your tail, all right?

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All right? Hi? Hi?
You know Patty? Yeah? Please

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to make you you know that guy? Dope? Oh James, you know

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why I'm here? I most certainly
do. When you're right in time,

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you can't put the payoff, right, it's right, here's the gunning lens

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are dead? What's that? I
think? I just want to keep them

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in my suit pocket. It's all. How much would you say? I

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owed you what you promised? Five
thousand dollars? Your life is what?

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That isn't it? Yes? It
is? But your life isness? O

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ge diad you did? Wait a
minute, let make sure? Yeah it's

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dead? All right? Gee live
one minute, it's dead the next.

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That's life isness, Yes, my
brilliant accomplice, it is. You know,

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Daddy. When you said for me
to get you that gun, I

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was scared. Why? I thought
maybe you were gonna kill me. Why

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would I kill you genius? Why? Yeah? Well, because because I

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know too much. We're almost the
more advanced. You want to tell me

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now? While you developed a sudden
interest in a very ordinary shooting. Yes,

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Markham, you called me a little
while ago to tell me that a

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next heavyweight fighter named Joe Stockton had
been found shot to death. That's right

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after quitting the ring, Stockton became
a strong arm man for a racket gang.

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It sounded to me like just an
ordinary gangland robot. I call you

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only because I'd promised to advise you
of anything that happened since George Foster was

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killed. That, of course,
is the mysterious murder that has me confused.

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You've got a lot of company,
Oh, missus. Foster positively identifies

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Norman James as her husband's murderer.
And we saw James in a restaurant at

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the time of the murder. Now
how can that be? It can be

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very easily, it can. Yes, Well, maybe you'd better tell me

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as is it's so easy. Well, this Joe Stockton, the one whose

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body we're going to see. He's
about five feet ten, just about have

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he said? Yeah, that's why, practically bald about forty? Why?

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Yes, how did you know?
I didn't know. I'm merely surmised,

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and I also more than surmise.
Now that I can give you the details

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of how Norman James could have killed
George Foster. One more question, did

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Stockton have a scar on his cheek? Definitely not. Oh what's the old

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for? It's or the sudden collapse
of a beautiful theory. I take back

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all my previous questions, Markham.
They mean absolutely nothing now. I'm afraid

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I don't know how Norman James could
be in two places at once after all,

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Or do I know how I can
ever again find that beautiful blonde?

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This is just you, Attorney Markham. The Scarface murder case opened with the

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killing of George Foster, Foster's wife, who saw the murder and positively identifies

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Norman James still at Liberty as her
husband's killing. But Vans and I are

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certain we saw James in a restaurant
at the time of the murder. The

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killing of a petty racket strong arm
man proves no clue, even though final

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Vans believed it might at first.
At the moment, Vance and I are

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questioning Missus Foster. Neither mister Markham
nor I are doubting you, Missus Foster.

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But what reason did Norman James have
to kill you her husband? Reason?

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Is the reason important? I saw
him do. It is not enough,

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not with the situation we find ourselves
and missus Foster, it'll be your

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word against his, and he has
us to back up his alibi. Perhaps

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you're giving us a reason for his
killing. Your husband might help us,

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all right. My husband borrowed money
from Norman James. I never knew his

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name, but i'd seen his face
when he came to the house. My

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husband was supposed to pay him a
very high interest rate and he couldn't pay

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it. He couldn't pay James back, so he was killed. So that's

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Norman James's raggett. That's right.
That second murder could have explained all this

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so easily, Markham, but it
didn't. What are you going to do

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to break james alibivans? If I
could find that blonde he was with at

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the restaurant, that might do it. I don't see how I do,

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but it's too early for me to
explain. Lend me an officer from a

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homicide department a telephone book and I
might be able to locate her. You

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don't know her name, no no
where she lives. But let me have

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what I ask for, and there's
still a chance I can trace her for

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you for me. I beg your
pardon for both of us. That's all,

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sir. Shave, haircut, massage, shaw finished. Pay the cashier,

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will you please? That was next
place I am Charlie A chill,

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mister James. You want to shave. Maybe I want something, Charlie,

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but there's no maybe about it.
You owe me a hundred bucks. I

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want one hundred or ten bucks interest. Oh, mister James, I wanted

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to ask you something. Things were
a little tough. Tough of me too.

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You wanted the money, you ask
me for it. You got it.

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You know you'd have to pay me, didn't you. Yes, what

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are you waiting for? I haven't
got it, mister James. Maybe i'll

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have it for you tomorrow. Tomorrow, Yeah, tomorrow. Sure, give

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me another day, will you,
mister James? Just one more day?

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Okay, that'll be two bucks more
entersts for that extra day. I'll be

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back tomorrow about this time. I
have the money, Charlie, or the

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interest. I'll try if it'll help
Penny. And you're trying. Remember what

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happened to George Faster. He owed
me money and he didn't pay, so

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I paid him. Or I'll have
a mind back here? Goodbye? Well

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any luck Williams? Oh, mister
Vance, any more numbers for me to

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call? There are only about three
more on my list. I think I'll

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make the next call myself. Okay, you try for luck. Here's a

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form. Thanks. Let's see we
called about thirty numbers, didn't we,

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mister Vance? So far? Yes, I'm sure this has to work.

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Oh maybe if I knew what you
were trying to doe. Hello, So

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how do you do? My name
is Filo Vance. I'm trying to find

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a girl. I wish your luck
brother, happy hunting just a moment,

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please, I'm hoping that this particular
girl is one of your customers. Well,

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what's your name? Well, I
don't know. She's blonde. I'd

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say she was the kind of girl
who'd come into your establishment about three times

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a week. Does that help any
Well, give me a little bit more

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to work on. She's about five
foot eight, very attractive, very smart

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dresser. Her hair is blonde,
but not golden, lack the huh,

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dark eyebrows, nice mouth, gray
eyes. Well I don't know what color

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her eyes are. Do you know
somebody that answers that description? Yes,

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Well that's fine, wouldn't that make
me a landmark for tourists. You are

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as far as I'm concerned. I'm
coming down to see you right away,

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the district attorney. You've got to
help me. Norman James will kill me,

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just like he killed George Foster.
He'll kill me. I know,

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Charlie. I heard you. You're
a barber and you borrowed money from James

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and can't pay him back. Is
that it? Well, he lends money

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to a lot of us people,
barber's new standman, taxi drivers. Well,

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we have no security, so he
charges us high interest, and when

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we don't pay, he has us
beaten up. He killed George Foster,

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he told me he did. You
gotta protect me, You gotta arrest him.

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I could arrest him, of course, I could have had him arrest

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him when Foster's wife identified him for
us. But I'm sure I can't make

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a charge stick against him. What
does that mean? But he can take

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me up and kill me if he
wants. No, I'll see that you're

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protected all day tomorrow and up until
the time when final Vance gets the evidence

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he needs against James. Why can't
you arrest him? Why don't you put

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him in jail? He threatened me. Didn't he charging those high rates of

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interest is illegal, isn't it?
Why can't you arrest him? Perhaps I

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will. In any event, Charlie, you have nothing to worry about.

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I give you my word that you
won't be bothered by Norman James again.

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Daddy, Oh bother me? Will
you? That's silly. Everything they put

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in your face, they leapt out
in your head. Kid. I bet

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you I don't think I have any
brains. That's the only bet you ever

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made that you had a chance they're
winning. What do you want? I

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want to go out to the beauty
parlor. What do you think you're stupid?

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Yeah? I know Ben of the
beauty parlor once this week already she

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said I could go any place where
there weren't any man. Didn't you there?

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There's no man in a beauty parducts
at Antoine. He just does my

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hair. You only wake on the
inside of your head, kid, Oh

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can I go? Don't only right
down the street. I'll be back in

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a couple of hours. It doesn't
take long from my hair to draw.

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Okay, okay, go ahead,
a test to me to death. If

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I don't let you want to go
down to see Charlie the bobby. You'll

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sneak out anyhow to go ahead?
I'll pick you up there. Okay,

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what are you gonna have done?
Oh? I think I'll have my hair

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just a shade lighter. Don't you
think that would be becoming just a shade

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lighting? I don't know where I
set your lightheaded on up already? You

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know something. I don't mind sitting
under his hair dryer at all, not

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a bit. I am bled,
my dame, my damn, Yes I'm

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not. I'm a damn. I'm
more of aum whatever it is. It

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means i'm younger. Yes, you're
cheating me. You ain't French. I'm

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sorry, that's all right. I
like you. I like you as well

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as I like Antoine, except your
mustache is cut. I think I'll have

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you every time I come in here. I'm a very good tepper. Well,

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i'm sure you are. I'm sleepy. Noise from that dryer makes me

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sleepy. Well, why not sleep
a little? Then? I can't.

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No, it's from the dryer keeps
me awake. Can you play Solitaire?

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I imagine so I just learned to
play. That's quite an achievement. Sure,

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Amy's daddy, daddy. Oh for
good you're new here. I'm at

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mister Jane. He's waiting for me
downstairs. I hope we won't mind waiting

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a little longer. You wait,
got a lot of patience he has to

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have with me. The only time
he doesn't have any patience is when he's

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jealous. Oh, he's jealous.
I'll say he killed the guy just because

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he took me out once. What
do you like that, Joe Stockton,

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that's the guy. Say you read
the papers, don't you don't know?

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Why? See the things you can
relearn? Yes, I know from other

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things besides the newspapers. What.
Oh, it doesn't matter, you say.

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Your friend mister James is waiting for
you downstairs. Yeah, but he

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won't mind. Well, we won't
keep him waiting long. I'll just turn

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the dryer up a little so we
can get everything over in a hurry.

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He's daddy, I mean, mister
Jane's gotten over there in the door.

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We're waiting for me. He's like
I thought it would be. Oh,

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thank you very much for doing my
hair so well, Oh, it's quite

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all right. And I think I
want a word with your daddy. Sure,

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i'll get him, Daddy, come
on over here. Let's get moving.

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We got this nice man wants to
speak you. He just in my

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hair, doesn't think it looks beautiful. Hello, James, we meet again.

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Your finto vents. That's right,
and after watch your friend here just

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told me. I think I've got
all I need to turn you over to

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the district attorney. After what I
told you, I didn't tell you anything.

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Besides I saw a final vents in
the restaurant. He didn't have a

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mustache. Well, this guy's worn't
comes up. Can't you see? It's

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a phony? Betty. I don't
think you can do anything at all,

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James, except come with me to
see mister Markham. That's one man's opinion.

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Betty talked your mad enough to put
everything together. I'm getting out of

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here, doubtkay France, Let's play
a rope. Oh you killed him Van,

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you killed daddy? Oh, my
dear, I didn't. I just

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knocked him out. I didn't kill
it. I wouldn't dream of sparing the

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state all that trouble. I'm a
patient man, advance, a very patient

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man. But I'm also a very
curious one. Now we know from his

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confession and from what his girl Betty
told us that Norman James did kill George

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Foster and later the ex prize fighter
Joe Stockton. But we did see James

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in the restaurant at the time Foster
was killed, did we? Of course

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we did. He was sitting over
in a corner with his girl. The

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girl was making eyes at you,
you claimed. Then they left. We

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followed and there was James sitting in
the fire, Markham. Do you remember

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why I thought the prize fighter Joe
Stockton would have a scar on his cheek

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when we were on route to the
Morgue to identify him. Yes, but

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he didn't have. I told you
that it was Joe Stockton who was in

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the restaurant, Markham, not Norman
James. Don't tell me that. I

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spoke to James myself. So did
you in the fire? Oh that was

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Norman James. But the man in
the restaurant, the one we saw with

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the girl between seven and eight,
was Joe Stockton's Stockton. He was built

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like James, sat in the shadows
so we couldn't really see his face.

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He made sure we noticed the scar
on it. You mean, the scar

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was just makeup that was put on
Joe's cheek exactly. Now here's what happened.

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The girl had instructions to attract my
attention. Your attention, that is,

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because you're the district attorney and you
were to be Norman James Aliba.

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I see. It was all set
up for us to follow the two of

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them at the door. Then they
were to disappear into the street, and

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Norman James was to be found by
us seated in the restaurant fire. He

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denied there had been a girl with
him to intrigue us to make sure we

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remembered him. That was the plan, and it worked. You see,

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James had time to kill George Foster
between seven and eight, and to get

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to the restaurant afterwards just as we
were leaving, and then later James had

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to kill Joe because of the possibility
that Joe would either blackmail him or talk

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in the future. That's right.
It was a very clever plan and it

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almost worked. I figured the girl
would be a key to all of this,

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and I also knew that a girl
such as she would be a beauty

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polor addict. She'd go to one
several times a week, probably a swanky

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one. So I called all the
better beauty polors in Midtown and finally found

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the right one. You most certainly
did. That was quite a trick finding

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a girl in a big city without
knowing anything about her. Thank you.

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After I found her, I also
found a way of making her talk.

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The result, you know, she
put Norman James right in the middle of

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a double murder. Rapper put him
in the middle and us at the end

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of the scarface murder case splend welcome
back. Well, we can add being

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a talented hairdresser to the list of
follow Vance's many talents. This is an

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interesting case because the villain's plan kind
of defeated itself because essentially he wanted to

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draw attention to himself with a beautiful
woman, but she was so distinct that

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it was amazingly easy for Vans to
track her down. I think it'd be

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hard to locate even a very distinct
woman in New York City using the method

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Advance used by what do I Know. One thing that's really odd about their

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dynamic is the way that she called
scarfaced Daddy was strangely reminiscent of Baby Snooks,

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a radio program and one of the
more memorable comedic series of skits,

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both on her own show and as
a sketch on other programs such as the

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Maxwellhouse Good News program where Fanny Brice
played a little girl named Snooks who was

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very mischievous and said daddy in the
exact same way the character and this story

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did. And I have no idea
why they adopted that particular verbal tech,

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but at any rate, we turned
out a listener comments and feedback, and

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we have a comment on YouTube Brigardi
meet Miss Sherlock and comment from Cantiflus.

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I hope I'm pronouncing the name correctly, she writes, Adam, I've been

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listening to you for years and love
what you do. Literally. I start

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every day with you and half for
about eight years. Usually when you introduce

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us to a new radio show,
I always am able to find something positive

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about it, even taking into accounts
some times you can hear things that make

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you go you glad. We've evolved
since then, but I'm struggling with meet

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Miss Sherlock in a series where she
should be the lead, she feels like

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a secondary player at best. While
I appreciate the exposure to the new radio

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shows, I can say this is
one that only gets one spin on the

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dance floor with me. Keep rocking
and doing what you do well. Thanks

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so much, and I definitely think
that it's a valid criticism of the program

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that the episodes that we have Jane
Sherlock not really being the central character or

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the key mover in the story,
even though there's kind of like a last

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minute bit of writing which indicates that
maybe she played a bigger role in the

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final outcome, even if it was
an obvious I do wonder whether the entire

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series was like this, as we
only have two episodes of the series and

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then we're probably something like thirty or
forty mate or is this generally representative of

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the role she had in the series. We'll likely never know, but I

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think what you said is definitely a
fair point. It didn't ruin the series

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for me. I enjoyed it well
enough, but I can definitely see how

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you came at it. Thank you
so much for your comment. And now

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it's time to thank our Patreon supporter
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Vans, but join us back here tomorrow

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for the conclusion of the Chesapeake fraud
matter where If he was trying to cover

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something, it certainly wasn't apparent from
his conversational reactions. There had been a

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moment when I was sure he wasn't
Frank Bauer. On the other hand,

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I was sure that he wasn't John
That cuts it, Johnny right thumb an

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index Prince don't match at all,
Oh not even close. Charge, And

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I thought I was getting somewhere.
I found out he was never in Toledo,

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or at least never registered or licensed
as an engineer. Well, these

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prints do it when you're going home, Johnny, There's no reason to stick

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around any longer. This is crazy. You approved your case with the print.

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He was too anxious to help me
prove a Georgie. I hope you'll

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be with us then. In the
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