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It's Tuesday. You know what that
means. It's time for Ignition with the

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A. W. Fatoub podcast team. This is Kelson and this is Alex,

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and I think the theme of today's
episode is going to be Japan.

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Japan. Yeah, so yeah,
there's a lot, there's a lot of

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Alex. I don't know what that
sound effect I just made it was what

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Japan thing? I don't know.
I don't think so. I think maybe

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like the golf clap is the sound
of Japanese wrestling. Seriously, mm hmmm,

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gosh, it's like going to a
funeral and I should know. But

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anyway, go ahead, Alex,
Yes, all good, all good.

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Yeah. So the big thing that
happened, I mean, coming out of

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Wednesday's episode of Dynamite, they showed
the video of Jack Perry and see him

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punk s guffling for like one second, and Jack Perry coincidentally had a match

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of Friday with New Japan in Chicago, Chicago being the hometown of DM Punk.

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So like everyone was buzzing out over
the fact that he's going to be

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appearing there in Chicago in front of
the Chicago crowd, and he put on

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an awesome show. I don't know, and anybody else see this match or

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see clips of it. I saw
highlights on Yeah, I saw yeah.

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So we came out with a leather
jacket that said crimea River on the back.

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He came out of the Chicago flag, and he came out all so

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with like six guys in riot gear. I guess to protect him from the

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fans, but he actually got like
if the crowd wasn't in Jungle Boys or

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Jack Perry's favor, they were at
least like a fifty to fifty split.

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They were Yeah, they were chanting, oh Crime your riv It was,

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yeah, you got choked out,
No you didn't chance like dueling, Yeah

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it was. It was awesome and
he really like played the heel well the

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whole match. He took his time. He was basking in the hate or

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the just the jeers of the crowd
and everything. Yeah, it was really

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awesome, and I think it felt
like that's probably his last match in New

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Japan. So yeah, I get
the sense that just An I don't think

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it's confirmed, but I mean next
weekend is is Dynasty, and if he

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doesn't show up on Dynamite this week, then I think there's a a pretty

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good chance that he shows up on
Dynasty. Okay, but okay, so

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but Alex, if he shows up
on Dynasty, what part is he going

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to play? Who's he going to
side with? Is he going to side

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with anybody? That's That's the question
I have for you. Mm hmmm.

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I think, and be based on
you know, the Young Bucks have been,

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you know, shouting him out to
the camera. They had a scapegoat

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T shirt on last week's episode of
Dynamite while they were doing their whole thing.

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There's a very good chance that the
Elite is not just the three person

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unit, and that we see like
Jack Perry join up with them as well,

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and like behind the scenes, we
also know he's changing in the Young

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Bucks locker room, like he's a
big close fan, close friends with the

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Young Bucks behind the scenes as well. So I think that makes a lot

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of sense. Okay, Elite feel
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they're growing into a bullet club asque
type of deal. If it was me,

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I would set him by himself just
because he needs to stand out and

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he needs to be able to learn
to eat on his own. But that's

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just my I mean, you know, that's just my deicience on that mm

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hmm, yeah, like I that
makes sense, but I also worry about

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like he's got buzz right now.
You put him with the elite, they're

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great, They are great at getting
the fans to be against them. And

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if you put him by himself and
he falls flat, it can quickly go

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wrong. The biggest problem with putting
him by himself there's not really anywhere to

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put you know what I mean,
He don't really have an opponent right now,

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and it would all depend on who
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like the idea with going to the
to the elite, but we talked about

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that last week, so you know
it's just gonna be it's gonna be interesting

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for damn sure. So do you
have any thoughts of who you would put

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him up against then? If I
was to bring if he's coming back,

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I mean you okay, So we
haven't seen we haven't seen uh Christian since

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he lost the title. I haven't
heard anything from him, haven't heard about

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him at all. They haven't talked
about him. So if if in reality,

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because that was what was the thing
he was going with before he left,

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I would I would put him up
against Christian. If Christian's gonna come

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back, if he's done with his
little maybe self imposed hiatus. But other

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than that, I really don't know
where he would fit yet because I haven't

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seen his character in New Japan.
So I've heard about it. I've heard

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what he's been doing, but I
haven't actually seen it yet, so not

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knowing how he's changed, I would
need to see it, you know what

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I mean. I'd have to see
it before I could figure out who I

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would want to put him up against, because he can go up against anybody,

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m but he's kind of he's kind
of like unhinged like, but not

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in a Tony Storm kind of unhinged
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something out there and see if you
guys agree with because I was thinking about

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it too, and I kind of
don't want to see him go with the

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elite, but I don't want to
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My idea for Jack Perry is,
and I'm gonna say a name here,

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and I'm not alluding to that Jack
Perry is this guy is as good as

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this guy, all right, But
I kind of see Jack Perry is kind

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of like with the reception that he's
gotten in New Japan and his promos that

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he's done in New Japan. He's
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something like a stone Cold Steve Austin
type character, not as you know,

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likable. I guess yeah, he
rich can spoiled brat stone cold, and

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that's the way I see it.
I'm interested to hear what others may have

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to say about but see that gives
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because that's exactly what they are.
They're the rich kid ev P. You

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know, all they ever used to
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go out and buying that kind of
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in that group. But uh,
I get I get where you're coming from

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though though kill Like I said,
it just depends on m If you put

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him in that sense, I can
see him getting involved with fighting the continuing

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to fight against like the callous family
m y W I just said, I

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said, fight against anybody who wants
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it depends on who they put him
up against. Yeah, because I

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do like your idea of putting him
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Jack Perry, be respectful to him. Uh yeah, if him against Christian

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and if you're using that to turn
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with Edge later. I like that
idea. I don't know how you could

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well on that Christian. Before he
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going to have Mama turn on Christian
and she and and what the what I'd

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heard they were planning was they were
going to bring in Jack Perry as her

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new guy who was like the head
of the group, and they kicked Christian

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out and that was how they were
supposed to end Christian's craziness. That was

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before everything happened and he left,
So that's that's something that could happen.

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I think that would be amazing.
I can't remember if it was before he

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left or shortly after he left,
but Jack Perry did file a couple of

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trade barks which alluded to a re
team with Lucas horse. M I just

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don't kill Switch and Jack Perry Luca's
horse. He'll switch. He's never gonna

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be killed Switch. I'm sorry,
I just can't get behind that. I

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don't know if I want the two
teams back together again. I mean,

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he's being a good heal I don't
think he needs him. You know,

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he comes back first. I want
to see him feud with it are some

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people who were related, you know
who who need the push. I think

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he's gonna be heal. He has
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because he's soaked on that end right
now. He is an anti hero,

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but him him beauting with Christian will
not be bad either. But I don't

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think he needs a joint or take
over any any any clubs. I mean

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him and Christiannie beef of he took
away his friend, but you know,

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I him against Christian and a renewed
Hey, you were right a little bit,

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but I'm gonna prove you better than
you type of thing. What work

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right well? That you've been eerily
silent? Are you? Do you have

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any opinions on Jack Verrier? I
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don't know what they're gonna do with
him. So I was trying to think

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about who he could feud with,
and I don't know, I really don't

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know. I'm hopeful that they don't
drop the ball with him, because he

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is He's in a really good position
to do very very well with a W

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and move the story of Jack Perry
forward. But I can't think of anyone

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I really want to see him with
I like him by himself, and I

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can't think of anyone I would like
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I don't know, and it depends
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Right. And about that though,
here's the thing. He's been doing all

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this in New Japan, right,
how many of the fans are actually been

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watching him in New Japan. So
whatever he's been doing there, they may

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not even There may be fans that
don't even have a clue and go,

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wow, that's such. They may
you know what I mean. They may

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see, well, he was this
way when he left and he come back

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and we don't understand why, so
they have to be careful how they bring

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him back too. That's true.
Right, Well, you know, move

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it on speaking of New Japan,
because we're gonna this is a Japan based

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podcast that we are going to do
a Dynamite preview in shortly. But I

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wanted to talk about an announcement that
Rocky Romero made, uh two or three

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days ago, I think it was
like three days ago where he now said

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he's now the vice president of Talent
for New Japan Pro Wrestling. Now he's

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been a liaison for New Japan Pro
Wrestling with other companies for this whole time.

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But now he's heading up the strong
events and and he will continue to

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be lais on between New Japan Pro
Wrestling and the companies. How do you

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see that, you know, coming
How do you see that with the with

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AW? How do you see it
as an affecting a W Is it more

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of a positive thing now that we
have Rocky Romero, who's obviously you know,

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a big part of AAW as well. Yeah, I feel like it

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can only benefit AW because yeah,
there he's been maybe the key person from

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New Japan and all the forbidden door
stuff, like Tony has mentioned. I

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know in the podcast I heard him
saying basically he's just working and arranging everything

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between himself and Rocky Romero in terms
of like who's coming in and all the

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logistics of it. So I imagine
that relationship is continuing. And Rocky Romero

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is a wrestler as well. He's
been a big part of CML, and

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I'm sure he's been a big part
of CML and aw's relationship. Like Rocky

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Romero is the quintessential like journeyman of
wrestling, like he's been around for twenty

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years. He's been part of Ring
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so he's been around for a long
time, he's held titles everywhere,

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and he's obviously has a really good
relationship with Tony Kahan. So I think

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it's only positive, and especially we
just saw Jack Perry basically do an excursion

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to New Japan. John Moxley's now
the Champion of New Japan, so yeah,

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I think it's only good for a
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too. Anybody else have any thoughts
on this? I agree? I think

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I think a lot of this is
going to have to do with there's been

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so many changes in New Japan lately
that you know, they're they're losing a

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lot of their they've lost to some
of the top stars, They've had a

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lot of different things happen. So
this was a possibility to like we had

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talked about with like stardom and aw
having the opportunity to work together more.

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This I think will make that opportunity
better for them too. With New Japan

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right right well, with with John
Mosley being champions there too, we had

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a company I'm sorry he knew betweenity
I GP. Yeah, it's the same

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thing. It's like their top title
of New Japan. Okay, yeah,

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so he's their big name now,
dude. But I think this is a

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good chance for them to bring in
once in a while people who they try

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to get over at Forbidden Door.
Maybe they have a chance to show who

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they are and show video and get
us to know people who usually show up

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a because I don't know who named
Nido was when Jericho faced him or whoever

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it was, you know, so
I think people like that's a great a

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great chance to show us, Hey, this guy's this good, this is

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the story, this is the backstory, you know, and this is this

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and that way we can actually have
Forbidden Board and that means something. Then

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maybe once in a while at Japanese
person can actually win a match during Forbidden

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Door. Yeah. I'm with you
on that, MK, I really am

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not. Did you have any opinions
on the Rocky Romeo thing. I like

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Rocky Romero. Uh. One thing
that I know about him is he's very

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popular in the independent wrestling So I
think that he's probably going to bring up

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a lot of independent wrestlers into more
of the mainstream along with him, and

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I think that's a win win for
everybody. So yeah, I think it's

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a huge opportunity for AW and New
Japan to really get forbid and door going

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very very well and introduce our fans
to their fans and vice versa. So

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yeah, I think it's gonna be
good. He's a good guy. Yeah

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yeah, So you know what,
let's move on, so keep it in

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line with our Japan theme that we've
got going on. The night Rassi and

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ousted from Stardom back and I believe
it was January, maybe it was February,

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much to the delight of Tony Khan, because it was a parent that

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Rossiagawa had no intention of ever working
with a w And of course since a

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Goa has been gone, we have
now seen we have now seen Stardom talent

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working with not only Ring of Honor
but also AW. So that being said,

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the problem is is that Rossia Goawa
started Marigold, which is his own

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company, which is a direct competition
with Stardom. And yes, Stardom did

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lose you know, a few top
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is a little bit depleted right now. And of course you've got that veterans

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at Stardom like Mina and oh boy, that's a POI. And you've got

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Tim Nakanna. You know, there's
several veterans that are there, but you've

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also got twenty one year olds and
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they're called rookies. I mean they
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been keep an eye on them.
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rate, which is good. But
Stardom in ae W look to be working

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together now, and I really do
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We already know that Julia is going
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but then she's going to go to
n XT in WWE. So what my

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thought press process here and what I'd
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your opinions, anything you want to
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think that it's going to be one
of those things where Stardom really needs aw's

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helped or survive, and AW could
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that are that need that little extra
push to become great, because I personally

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do feel like stardom is this is
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feel far and away, Stardom is
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that it has been for maybe the
last two or three years, and when

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you before that, it was pretty
damn good. But anyway, so you

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know, i'd like to hear,
like what your thoughts are, I mean,

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do you want to see Stardom wrestlers
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And who would you think would be
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know, for maybe a month or
two, just to help them get through

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this new phase that they're going through. Yeah, I would say, like,

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I really have enjoyed the Stardom women
in aw so far. They had

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awesome matches on the Rank of Honor
pay per view. Mina Shirikawa has been

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really cool and she's had a cool
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And I really like Maria Mina Shirkawa's
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stuck in my head all the time. And yeah, I think in Azumi

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she was on Collision, she had
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Like, yeah, they've been a
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the New Japan people that have come
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they've really helped the women's division in
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both ways. Yes, The weird
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why did why does this rossi Ogawa
And I don't know anything about him,

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but why was he so against working
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probably, and this is pure speculation
here on my part, I think it

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probably had a lot to do with
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and if he worked with aw WW
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So, you know, but Stardom
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Stardom, but Stardom is owned by
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of Japan Pro Wrestling, So Stardom
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you know. So they dictated what
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and they let rossi Ogawa go because
it seems like he was preparing to start

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his own company and he started purging
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in Stardom, and that's why they
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let go, Tony Kahan took to
Twitter like immediately and it was like thank

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God. And then right away.
It was you know, two weeks later,

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the guy who took over for Ogawa, uh and I believe his last

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name is Okadah was backstage with Tony
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it was a collision. So that's
that's the story. You know, as

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soon as Ogawa was gone, the
forbidden door opened up. So it's really

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obvious that Ogawa was not willing to
work with Tony Khan. Yeah, that

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he was assuming he was going to
work with WWE, which is never something

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you should ever assume you're going to
get to do. While Goa and Julia

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we're both at Russell Bania Week so
as guests the w W, so it

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does look like, oh, go
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yeah promotion as well. Yeah,

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and how much and how much?
How much? How much is people?

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Are people going to be willing to
put into a new promotion, especially with

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the trade. I mean, Japan's
more about tradition, right, So this

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is going to going to be looked
upon like, uh, this dude stole

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these people from the company he started
because he didn't get his way. I

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don't know, it just seems weird
that that you He's almost right, You're

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almost I mean, it's kind of
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them to work with WWE because that
was where they would fit more than they

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would with aw Right. Well,
here's the thing. When you said Japan's

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more steeped the tradition, they're more
steeped in loyalty, and there are there

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are several wrestlers who left stardom out
of loyalty to Rossio Gawa, even though

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it's widely known that Rossio Gowa.
I mean, if you ever pay attention

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to stardom, those women wrestle a
lot. They wrestle a tremendous amount of

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time, so you know you got
to give them a break in if they

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continue with that trend with their depleted
roster, that's how injuries happen, and

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that's how you know, seeing the
same thing over and over again will get

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stale. So that's why I'm thinking
that I wouldn't be surprised if aw said,

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I mean, if you haven't watched
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They don't do a lot that isn't
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but they're always between the two factions, and the factions are very di

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dynamic. They change all the time, not the names but the members within

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them, so there's always little feuds
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It's actually quite good to watch.
But my point is is that if

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they send if aw sends women over
to Stardom to supplant their roster and to

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also give them experience, you know, it would probably be a faction.

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There you go, that would be
cool. That's cool. On on on

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the subreddit. I'll I'll just give
you my opinion. I would like to

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hear your opinions. I want to
see I thought that I would like I

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would like to see the Princesses of
the Black Throne go over, And by

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that I mean that would be the
faction name because Japan and the Stardom is

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all about princesses, women's wrestling,
their princesses, cinderellas, everything like that.

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So but I thought, if you
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I would like to see Julia Hart
Sky Blue and Uh and Anna Jay

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at the fourth Abdon it would be
what in my mind, I think the

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best of the fourth would be Billy
Starks and on that Abadon thing Japan,

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and it's weird, but she kind
of plays like a zombies schoolish kind of

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character. They don't know what.
They don't have zombies in Japan, they

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don't do they do have a zombiesh
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of character. And Stardom it's for
like ten years back in the mid to

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t by around ten ten, twenty
ten, I worked at a hunt that

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the owner of the Haunt had worked
for a company that was partnered with people

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in Japan, and they brought in
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So that's why I was thinking maybe
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may have to change her character a
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But I didn't know that about them
having a character like that. They

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just say she's a ghost. Yeah, she's a ghost. Yeah she's she's

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not like a zombie, but she's
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and she has pale you know,
pale face and whatnot. It's it's pretty

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interesting, you know. The other
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that they generally don't blade over there, but they do bleed, and when

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they bleed, it's legit bleeding.
I mean, there's so many. My

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favorite started wrestler right now is N's
a Poy. I just think she's just

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super cute, super dynamic, and
she can do anything. And but the

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thing with her is that when she
gets out of a match, I mean,

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this woman has covered in bruises from
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all over her face. I mean
she looks like she's been through a war.

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And you know that, and I
like that. I like that they

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look like their bed in a fight, because you don't you know how like

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you when you watch the movie and
somebody would punch somebody and they'd pop right

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up. That doesn't happen in real
life. You know, you do get

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bruises, you do get scrapes,
and they do and start them. Yeah,

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So, Kelsen, I'm curious when
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or Marigold, does that look like
a good start for a new promotion or

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is it weak or is it really
amazing? Like what are your thoughts on

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that? My thoughts are like they
have some very high profile that's a small

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roster. I think they've got ten
women right now. But for those women

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at least are very high profile wrestlers
in the world, not only in Japan,

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but they're well respected and known throughout
the world. And obviously not as

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much as you know, like an
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but they are known throughout the world. The thing about it is, and

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you know, a lot of people
don't like Rossie. I'm not. I

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am not a Rossie fan, but
I have to give him his props.

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I have to give credit where it's
where it's due, is that the man

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can recruit. He's probably one of
the best recruiters in the world, and

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he he recruits weirdly. He doesn't
look for the best wrestlers. He looks

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for a look. He will hire, He'll put an added the paper,

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and I think he just I think
Mary Gold just put it out the paper

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where they're looking for actresses and wrestlers, and they get these young nineteen twenty

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twenty one year old women who are
athletic looking and beautiful. I mean,

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look, you look at the Rossi
stardom roster. Ninety eight percent of them

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are women that you would say they
could be modeled, and most of them

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were. Marina Mina Shirakawa was a
model, you know, and it's it's

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that's just the way it is.
I mean Japanese wrestling and stardom, they

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had the look. Now there are
some wrestlers in stardom that you know don't

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have that model look. That doesn't
make them any less, but any less

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of a wrestling I'm just saying that's
I mean, he's a he's a great

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recruiter, and he's great at getting
people. Like I said, they call

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them rookies over there. Uh,
these young girls of young women to come

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in and they learn from from the
veterans, and because it's faction based,

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they have a story ready built around
them already, so they have something to

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do. I mean, you know, some of them are just not very

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good, but then you watch them
for a while over a year's time,

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with the amount of work that they
get over there, I mean we're spoiled

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at aw where you would see a
sky Blue match and then you know,

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you see a sky Blue match on
Dynamite, then you may see another sky

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Blue match on Collision, and then
you don't see sky Blue again for six

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weeks. That does not happen.
And stardom yeah, you know, yeah,

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like WWE diva search in finding the
wrestlers, and then Japanese like intense

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boot camp wrestling training basically on the
job training. And it's not like when

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I say that these women in Japan
and stardom look like models, I don't

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mean that in any other way,
because they are serious about what they're doing

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and they do get good. But
when they start, they're green. You

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know, it's it's a fact.
You were to start wrestling today, you'd

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be green. You know. It's
just you know, that's just the way

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it is. But their work ethic
is incredible, and it takes them relatively

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little time compared to other companies,
you know, AW and WWE specifically is

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what I'm talking about, where they
could develop a wrestler that has no experience,

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you know, and into a viable
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it's the best way put it.
So when I so years ago, I'm

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going to bring it back to years
ago, they had a women's tournament where

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it was Japan and versus and the
other side was was AW wrestlers, and

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there were people and there were wrestlers
like make Eo uh, and there was

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Asia Kong and there are some others
and I watched uh. I got on

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YouTube and I watched the Japanese side
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the wrestling, because I enjoyed those
matches better. I think I'm hoping that

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maybe the women's division will be integrated
into more hard hitting wrestling and make it

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to where you want to watch.
And as someone who I want to go

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over who who we haven't talked about, Punisias Curson over there. I think

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once ty Klwanti has you know,
raise the baby a little bit stuff,

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maybe they maybe her and Sandy go
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a wrestler and get going with that, because I think Sandy is great by

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himself, but he could learn better
over there. And then tay Kwanti is

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excellent. She has a patent,
try she has a look and I think

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she could use it as well.
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you're not going a baby to Japan. May not be easy, but they

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want to do it. They could
probably do it. And then that would

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also fit in with Senna Dana Jay
because they used to be a tag team.

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Yeah right, heya but if you
watch it, if you watch stardom,

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they're all about, you know,
presentation or but all about factions.

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They're all about presentation. You watch
a start a match, I mean it

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takes them ten minutes to get to
the ring and do whatever they're going to

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do, you know, because they
have these big, long entrances. They

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that they throw streamers after they introduce
them. Once they get in the ring,

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they throw streamers. They got to
clean the streamers out. Then the

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next person comes out, they get
introduc introduction, they throw streamers again,

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and then after everybody's introduced. They
most of the times they the referee stands

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in the middle of the ring and
the two women or the two teams that

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are participating in a match, they
post for photo op. I mean,

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it's just it's preposterous. And then
the match starts, and it's weird because

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they kind of like circle each other
for a minute. You know, they're

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like feeling each other out. You
know, it's like seeing who's going to

404
00:34:53.239 --> 00:35:00.519
make the first move, and it's
like you're you're anticipating something happening. At

405
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:04.000
that boom, all hell breaks loose, and it's all hell breaks loose for

406
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:08.960
the rest of the match. It's
non stop action. So it's very very

407
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:15.119
interesting if you haven't watched Stardom matches, and you know, what's the storytelling

408
00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:20.480
is good. I don't understand a
word of Japanese, and I understand exactly

409
00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:29.079
what's going on in Stardom because the
storytelling is that good. Hm. I

410
00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:34.519
may have to look them up on
YouTube. Yeah, they have. There's

411
00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:39.960
there's several primers on YouTube. There's
several matches, several there's hundreds of matches

412
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:45.639
on Stardom's official website on YouTube.
And you know what's interesting to me is

413
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:52.280
that, of course Japan had Startom
and they have Total Japan Pro Wrestling,

414
00:35:52.920 --> 00:36:05.159
and the two companies are completely different. Is that where Yoshi Pro Pro Total

415
00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:16.000
Japan is uh Yukosakazaki, uh Karshida, Riho maki Edo, uh Meu Yamashida

416
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:23.199
uh. You know you have that
type where they wrestle in the you know,

417
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:28.039
you see kind of way I guess
is the way you put it.

418
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:30.079
I'm not trying. I don't want
to say something that takes away from what

419
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:35.039
they're doing because they're fantastic. I
really do enjoy them. But when you

420
00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:40.480
get to stardom, you're getting into
a strong type strong style wrestling where they

421
00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:43.800
beat the ship out of each other. This is no other way to put

422
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:46.960
it. Yeah, you know,
and it's constant. They're they're they're not

423
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:53.559
doing you know, just running around
screaming there, which is what Joshi's often

424
00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:58.599
do, you know. And and
the other thing about stardom is that,

425
00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:01.360
you know, people have criticized Rio
for being tiny and stuff like that,

426
00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:06.159
they wrestle within their means. I
mean, not to the poy well again,

427
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:08.719
as one of my favorite wrestlers,
she's four foot eleven, but she

428
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:16.480
wrestles bigger, and more importantly,
she's believable when she does it. So

429
00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:22.199
I think the hardest the hardest problem
you're going to have with fans here is

430
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:28.760
getting them used to that because they're
not you know, a w w W.

431
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:34.719
They they they have great women,
some of them are very good wrestlers,

432
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:38.400
but they're not like it's just like
watching a men's match with women.

433
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:44.519
So that kind of a new and
it would be new for most people with

434
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:47.639
the stardom type matches. So that
could be a little bit of an issue

435
00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:52.039
for a little while. But if
it's good, it'll get it'll get over.

436
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:55.960
It of course, you know,
Carrie Saying and Neil Sky there started

437
00:37:57.719 --> 00:38:02.679
that they came from stardom, so
so you know, AW will eventually get

438
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:07.000
people from stardom, but I think
it'll be more like a working relationship than

439
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:10.159
a signee, you know. But
yeah, it is what it is.

440
00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:15.599
Yeah, Yeah, I think it's
really promising and I think it's very interesting

441
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:22.920
how it's almost like the war between
ae W and WWE. It's like Stardom

442
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:31.360
in AW joining up now WWE and
Marigold, Like obviously there's a lot of

443
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:37.000
opportunities for AW to really improve their
roster by bringing dardom wrestlers in, and

444
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:44.000
I think it's I think it's almost
more interesting than the New Japan relationship in

445
00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:49.320
a lot of ways because aw's men's
roster is like so so strong, and

446
00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:54.360
I think there's more opportunity to benefit
from bringing in the stardom women than there

447
00:38:54.440 --> 00:39:01.599
is on the New Japan men's side
of things. Yeah, well, as

448
00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:07.519
women's roster is not anything that needs
that right now either, that's really gotten

449
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:10.880
better. Yeah, if the grow
better, once Jamie Hater comes back,

450
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:15.880
once some other people come back,
it's gonna be stronger than ever. And

451
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:20.079
I would argue it would be one
of the one of the best in the

452
00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:24.199
world because they're going to have all
these all these people coming back and joining

453
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:29.800
together and hopefully doing some things.
You know. The weird thing about at

454
00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:35.800
MK is that so many a W
women have wrestled for startup, excluding Karoshida,

455
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:40.039
who I guess had a falling out
with I don't know if she had

456
00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:43.360
a falling out with ROSSI, I
don't know, but she was like,

457
00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:46.360
I'm not gonna wrestle for starters.
But Tony Starves been there. JB.

458
00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:54.480
Hater's been there. I believe Britt
Baker went there once, Giada Parazzo,

459
00:39:54.639 --> 00:40:00.360
Mariah may Oh, yeah, I
mean, you know so but a Carshido

460
00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:04.639
of course was t J p W. So is y Kaza Kazaki, so

461
00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:09.199
is Rijo, so as maki Edo. You know. So it's interesting,

462
00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:13.920
you know, I mean, it's
I really am excited for the start up

463
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:20.000
at a W matchup. I really
am, because I think that's what it's

464
00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:22.599
gonna be. It's gonna it's not
gonna be a partnership. It's gonna be

465
00:40:22.599 --> 00:40:27.280
a matchup. I think they're going
to coexist out of necessity for stardom,

466
00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:32.719
especially right now mm hmm. But
anyway, you know, let's let's take

467
00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:37.079
a look at I don't want to
touch on every match, but let's let's

468
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:44.000
look at a few of the interesting
points at UH at Dynamite this week.

469
00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:46.599
I mean, do you have a
is there anything that stands out to you

470
00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:52.880
as like that one that you have
to see on Dynamic because this is a

471
00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:57.199
want I don't want to say stacked, but it's a congested card. I

472
00:40:57.199 --> 00:41:01.599
mean there's like nine different segments already
have for Dynamite this week home show.

473
00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:08.960
Mm hmm, yeah, yeah,
go ahead, k there's a few that

474
00:41:09.079 --> 00:41:15.760
need touched on, I think.
But you know, I like the Will

475
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:22.519
Osprey versus Claudio match. Who wouldn't
like that one? That one looks like

476
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:25.599
it's gonna be a barn burner.
Yeah, that's that's the one I'm most

477
00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:29.440
looking for too. I know it's
a go home show, so it may

478
00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:39.400
be more talk centric. We'll see, well he what I give? I

479
00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:44.280
hope it really. I'm not one
sold on getting the payer view yet myself.

480
00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:45.840
I don't know what I'm gonna do. I may take your break andnot

481
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:52.280
get this one, but I'm we'll
see how they sell it. So we've

482
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:57.079
got we've got five matches, we
got five this, we got five where

483
00:41:57.079 --> 00:42:04.280
you'll hear from going on in four
match, So you know it's gonna be

484
00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:07.960
the only one that really isn't gonna
that nobody's really gonna care about. It's

485
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:22.599
gonna be the Jericho And Okay,
I disagree. Just don't say that nobody's

486
00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:27.119
gonna nobody gonna watch it. You
just say I don't, I don't have

487
00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:30.519
any interest in it. But that's
not That's not how I was looking at

488
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:34.800
it because everybody, so it seems
like everybody is so getting off on the

489
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:37.440
point that they're getting tired of Jericho
that if I had to pick one thing

490
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:42.559
that's going to happen tomorrow, that's
going to be the point where that's the

491
00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:47.440
piss break. It would be that
that discussion, because yeah, I mean

492
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:52.119
I personally, I personally like what
Jericho is doing, so I don't really

493
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:53.760
have a problem with it, like
I think. So, we just saw

494
00:42:54.199 --> 00:43:05.239
there was news that Jericho trademarked the
Jericho Vortex. Yeah, you get stuck

495
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:08.719
with Jericho, right, We've been
living in the Jeracho fortext for the last

496
00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:15.519
six months. He had name and
eventually, yeah, you can't him or

497
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:20.599
hearing his music. I love it
though, I'm sorry. H he's showing

498
00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:25.480
that he's leaning into is that he's
he's self aware, uh and maybe just

499
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:29.599
turned into an angle. I don't. I don't know where he becomes self

500
00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:32.960
aware and realize how how dummy looks
sometimes. I don't know, but I'm

501
00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:37.199
sorry. I'm a lifelong fan of
guy. He's been an injury forever and

502
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:44.920
he gets a lot of unwarranted eat
on him that he really shouldn't. Yeah,

503
00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:47.000
but he's a great guy and he's
been day one and he could have

504
00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:52.599
chose not to come here, but
he he risked it and went with a

505
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:58.039
w mm hmmm. Yeah. And
I think Jericho's a lot smarter than people

506
00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:00.920
give them give him credit for.
I think he knows that people are saying,

507
00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:07.760
Oh, Jericho just is latching himself
onto these young guys, and that's

508
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:10.519
That's kind of what I'm thinking.
Is his whole plan here is like Hook

509
00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:15.039
is a young guy, he's the
youngest of guys, and now he's doing

510
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:20.920
this on purpose because everyone's been saying
these things about him, and he's going

511
00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:23.880
to kind of play with that.
So I think I'm all of a sudden

512
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:30.559
more intrigued by this because I know
Jericho is the smart guy, and I

513
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:35.199
think there's more to this, and
I'm getting curious to see where this goes.

514
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:43.840
I think Jericho has a secret I
read it Burnham account because he sees

515
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:52.559
Do you think he posts negative Jericho
things or positive? Knowing him negative just

516
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:59.079
disturbed? Yes, well, I
know. The last interview I saw him

517
00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:05.440
do was a Chris Van Elite interview
and they talked about you know, aw

518
00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:07.920
and everything in his role, and
that was what he said. You know,

519
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:13.239
he said, I'm I'm here because
I want to make sure that these

520
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:16.960
guys get what I had didn't have
necessarily. I want to make sure they're

521
00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:20.639
getting the right thing, you know, and like and he and he's not

522
00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:22.360
lying. I mean, everything that
he said in that interview was true.

523
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:27.519
It was a lot of this had
to do with the early success was because

524
00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:32.119
it was Jericho. Everybody knew who
Jericho was when they first started. You

525
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:37.639
know, nobody unless you were watching
ROH or New Japan or you know that

526
00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:42.280
stuff like that. Nobody knew who
the Bucks were mostly okay, not in

527
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:45.440
anybody, but the like casual fans
didn't know who the Bucks or Kenny Omega

528
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:52.599
were and people knew who Cody Roads
were, but you know, he was

529
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:54.360
talking about that. I, like
I said, I don't have an issue

530
00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:58.320
with Jericho. I think what he
does he needs to do and he's the

531
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:02.440
the the best one for it because
he has the I mean, by and

532
00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:09.000
large, he's the most experience in
the company, been here forever. Yeah,

533
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:13.000
you know what I find kind of
ironic. You know what I find

534
00:46:13.079 --> 00:46:15.119
kind of ironic is that, you
know, you look on the internet,

535
00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:20.159
on Twitter, accent, on the
subreddit and everything like that, and there's

536
00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:23.400
so many people say that they're tired
of Jericho and they want them to go

537
00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:27.960
away, and so what do we
do for the last ten minutes we talk

538
00:46:28.039 --> 00:46:34.639
about for a Jericho. So that's
my ironic part of the show. I

539
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:37.199
think the match, the best match
I think there's going to be Morne is

540
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:45.920
going to be will offspring match Yes, well together, Yeah, yeah,

541
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:49.320
I mean that's a given. You
know. As far as the segment that

542
00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:53.719
I'm most looking forward to see,
as far as physicality and danger and the

543
00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:58.639
chance for injury is Mercedes Monette walking
out to the ring and seeing that she

544
00:46:58.639 --> 00:47:00.639
can make it all the way to
drink with Paul without falling over her talk.

545
00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:04.599
Wait a minute, she's not gonna
have to go out away to the

546
00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:06.639
ring. You know, this is
going to be one of those interviews that

547
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:12.440
the Renee does at the entrance.
Well that's smart, yeah, cup down

548
00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:15.760
the risk of energy injury. Just
have her stand right there, walk out

549
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:19.760
of tunnel and Renee's right there.
Because that woman I have never in my

550
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:24.079
life seen one person stumble over her
tongue as much as Mercedes Mondet does.

551
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:29.079
They told me that she wasn't much
of a talker, and guess what they

552
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:34.480
were, right, I think,
Yeah, it is weird to give someone

553
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:39.320
that's not not the best talker so
much opportunity to talk. Maybe she'll get

554
00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:44.400
better. I don't know. Well, and you know, coming from WWE,

555
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:50.840
everything's written for you. She didn't
have that issue there because they wrote

556
00:47:50.840 --> 00:47:54.079
it, she read it, that
was it. But AB's a whole another

557
00:47:54.880 --> 00:48:02.519
word, won't They hired a writer
specifically for Mercedes Moneta, but yeah's personal

558
00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:08.039
writer. So that's not an excuse. Okay, I thought she was doing

559
00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:10.960
something else. I didn't know they
had it for the writer and and and

560
00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:15.280
that's kind of the problem. It's
like it all does feel very written,

561
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:22.480
very memorized. It's not like off
the cuff. Yeah, like she does

562
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:25.280
her sit down interviews, it feels
like she's memorized things and she's not.

563
00:48:27.800 --> 00:48:31.119
I think she's an awesome wrestler.
I like she's probably my was my favorite

564
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:36.079
wrestler way back in the day when
she started an n XT. But yeah,

565
00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:42.400
she's not a great actress like Mariyah
May is a great actress in Mercedes

566
00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:52.920
No No, I'm Home. I'm
hoping go ahead. I hope him can

567
00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:54.519
step it up when she comes back
to the ring, and hopefully she hasn't

568
00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:59.599
lost too much. I saw this
weird sweet that someone asked her when she's

569
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:01.960
going to be in her first match, and she was saying double or nothing,

570
00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:07.480
so right, and you know I
was, you know, part of

571
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:10.000
me wish if they would have waited
to bring her back to where she could

572
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:15.880
pop into the ring quicker, because
it feels kind of stale. It feels

573
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:20.639
kind of seeing punkish the way they're
bringing her back and having her off a

574
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:24.480
whole lot and not have any action
at all. So hopefully she starts at

575
00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:30.119
least more than one kick and booms's
out type of thanks he needs a little

576
00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:34.000
more action than what he did in
Yeah. A few podcasts ago, MK,

577
00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:37.920
I said that I had never seen
Mercedes Bonet wrestle live before. I

578
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:39.840
mean I have, you know,
went back and watched a few of her

579
00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:45.119
matches and now she's in AW and
I aw and I've still not seen her

580
00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:47.639
wressell live before. You know.
It's just like, Okay, at what

581
00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:52.360
point are we going to actually see
Mercedes Bonnet in the ring in a wrestling

582
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:55.239
match? Yeah, I agree,
and I agree with you. Maybe she's

583
00:49:55.280 --> 00:49:59.280
not ready, but they could have
waited to bring her back. I mean,

584
00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:01.480
I just brought it Osprey. They
just potted at Ocana. They didn't

585
00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:07.239
need a third at that point.
No, And I'm kind of wondering if

586
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:13.119
there is more to it than what
we're being told. Although I mean,

587
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:15.679
like I said before, you know, and that's I think it was the

588
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:20.639
same podcast you're talking about. She's
coming back from a serious injury. She

589
00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:23.800
was told she's never gonna wrestle again
at one point in time, So that

590
00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:30.480
could be her psyche that's keeping her
out of the ring. Yeah, I

591
00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:35.599
mean, I I know that from
I played basketball my entire life, and

592
00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:38.800
I've broken an ankor twisted an ankle
up so many times, and that's that.

593
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:42.440
One of the first thoughts you have
when you start to come back from

594
00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:45.280
that is is it gonna collapse on
me again? Am I gonna have?

595
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:50.639
You know? And I don't know. I we'll see what happens. But

596
00:50:50.719 --> 00:50:55.800
she does need an advocate. I
wonder if Paul Hayman's available. Oh no,

597
00:50:57.760 --> 00:51:00.960
smart oh oh yeah, yeah,
he had to. He had to.

598
00:51:01.480 --> 00:51:05.480
His people were all going. Now
you know, he's still he's on

599
00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:08.760
the Ring of Honor. He's still
got Tony and Josh Woods. Okay,

600
00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:15.360
his woman's his women's divisions. He
needs some women. You can. I

601
00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:22.320
argue with Stokely half the way everything
from them. Just put Mercedes with Prince

602
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:27.639
Don on it could come down the
ramp halfway and do a stupid dance off.

603
00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:30.480
I don't know what is doing,
and I don't know what the hell

604
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:37.400
Mercedes is doing either, because except
he does a Russell God, I'm like,

605
00:51:37.719 --> 00:51:43.000
yeah, I love, I love
I think, yeah, I can

606
00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:46.920
see it. He's more like the
Alex, the wonder King they still have.

607
00:51:50.360 --> 00:51:54.440
We don't talk about Alex like that, not that Alex Alex Alex.

608
00:51:55.239 --> 00:52:02.440
I know it's kind of like you
get that. Uh oh boy, so

609
00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:07.639
you know we I mean there are
some there are some interesting matches here.

610
00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:15.480
I mean you've got the Elite against
you know, pack and and uh Penta

611
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:19.519
and Daniel Garcia. It looks like
Julia Hert's good to go at her match

612
00:52:19.559 --> 00:52:22.480
against that cale. I love that. Tony Giovanni said, we're having the

613
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:30.679
TBS champion against the TNT Championship champion
on Dynamite. We've never had that before.

614
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:34.199
How about that. I'm like he
realized that they're not going to fight

615
00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:40.840
each other, right, yeah,
I mean like Copeland would kill Hart,

616
00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:46.519
you know, just like and he's
done. Yeah, yeah, I could

617
00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:52.840
see some interaction. Well I'm glad
you brought that up because you know,

618
00:52:53.039 --> 00:52:58.119
I I even posted this on the
subredd and I'm like, look, Copeland

619
00:52:58.719 --> 00:53:01.800
wear a cup or something because she
did. I have never seen a human

620
00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:05.840
being get taken out. How many
blow blows? Is that bad? Taken?

621
00:53:06.159 --> 00:53:10.840
Since he's been at aw his balls
have got to be ruptured by like

622
00:53:12.599 --> 00:53:16.480
did he ever play when he was
a kid, you know? Yeah?

623
00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:22.679
Yeah, that whole feud was kind
of based around each other and the balls.

624
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:30.159
Yeah, that whole feud was nuts. How did how did he win

625
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:34.760
the match against He took little spike
and put it in the little bags,

626
00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:38.239
you know. Just yeah, it's
like, I mean, I have never

627
00:53:38.360 --> 00:53:43.440
seen a more homophobic matches in the
world than that. It was like,

628
00:53:44.159 --> 00:53:46.079
it was like just nuts nuts,
It didn't matter. You know. You

629
00:53:46.119 --> 00:53:50.519
could add, you know, Chris
and Cage's daughter come out and she would

630
00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:54.400
have given Adam Copeland a nutshot.
It was just it was nutshot after nutshot.

631
00:53:54.440 --> 00:53:59.000
I'm like, after you know,
after the thirtieth or fortieth nut shot.

632
00:53:59.440 --> 00:54:02.480
I'm not ragging, but I wouldn't
fall for it the thirty first time.

633
00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:09.360
Yeah, yeah, I'm thinking second
third, I'm done. Yeah.

634
00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:15.920
As soon as I saw somebody pick
out, especially since he didn't get a

635
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:19.119
lot of the nutshots he got wasn't
with a hand or a foot. It

636
00:54:19.239 --> 00:54:22.480
was with a hockey stick, you
know this that or the room or you

637
00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:27.000
know whatever. He just as soon
as I saw somebody holding something that they

638
00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:29.639
shouldn't be holding to me like I've
just been covered up, I get in

639
00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:34.000
a fetal position, tuck my thumb
and say you're not going to get these

640
00:54:34.039 --> 00:54:42.920
things this time. Yeah, the
jewels are protected. I don't know so

641
00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:47.639
Adam Copeland, if anybody in Adam
Copeland's camp is listening to this podcast,

642
00:54:49.599 --> 00:54:54.679
if they take nothing else away from
it, protect the nutsack Yeah, especially

643
00:54:54.679 --> 00:55:01.280
tomorrow night. Yes, j is
going to go right at the same time.

644
00:55:01.360 --> 00:55:07.000
Yeah, going to miss him.
Yeah, Julia Hard is going to

645
00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:15.159
at least attempt to kick Adam Copland
in the nuts. There's no way around

646
00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:20.480
it. Yeah. And then we
got Ran May and Dianna Prozzo too.

647
00:55:20.519 --> 00:55:27.079
I mean, no nuts. I
think I think. I think a nuts

648
00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:30.559
going to show up in that one. You think so, I think so.

649
00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:37.400
I can't see Tony not being there, Okay, Yeah, I feel

650
00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:44.079
like I don't know has what was
there a nutshot in a Deanna Parozzo match

651
00:55:44.320 --> 00:55:47.360
recently? I feel like I vaguely
remember that, but maybe I misremembering.

652
00:55:49.719 --> 00:55:52.760
Anyways, I don't know. I
don't think. Yeah, this match is

653
00:55:52.960 --> 00:56:00.920
interesting because, yeah, thunder Rosa
seems to be with Deanna Parozzo. Tony

654
00:56:01.000 --> 00:56:07.239
Storm will probably be on commentary Mina. Sure Kawa could come out afterwards or

655
00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:14.239
some other stardum wrestler. Yeah,
I can see a Zoomi coming out or

656
00:56:14.599 --> 00:56:19.440
helping and stuff, and that may
be something. Yeah, even more down

657
00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:23.000
the line as well as Zoomy helping
her. I don't know how long she's

658
00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:28.599
staying over or anything, so m
hmm. They may they may be back

659
00:56:28.599 --> 00:56:34.800
in Japan by now anyway, but
I'll be back. Yeah. Yeah.

660
00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:37.400
How impressed were you with the Zumi
though? I mean I loved it.

661
00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:43.000
I watched it. I mean,
she's twenty one years old and she's able

662
00:56:43.079 --> 00:56:45.400
to do that. But keep in
mind, she was also a Windness City

663
00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:52.159
riot. She fought for the WGP
Strong Women's Championship Saturday night, then came

664
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:57.440
and fought for the a W Women's
World champion Chip on Saturday night. Friday

665
00:56:57.519 --> 00:57:01.559
night she did for the IWP.
Yeah, she's a busy week. Yeah.

666
00:57:01.639 --> 00:57:07.840
People were calling that match with stephik
Cure at Windy City like they were

667
00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:12.360
saying, that's the match of the
night from then. So she's really making

668
00:57:12.360 --> 00:57:16.119
a name for herself. It was
really good. Yeah, So I didn't

669
00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:20.800
see it, but I do want
to see it because I'm just impressed,

670
00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:25.280
you know, But again, I
just I really want to see NAT's a

671
00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:30.280
ploy at aw I think she would
go over. I don't think she would.

672
00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:36.119
She's she I don't know what she
who's she reminds me of But I

673
00:57:36.199 --> 00:57:39.320
actually I actually usually don't watch Collision, but I went on my Fight TV

674
00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:43.840
and I went on Collisions just to
see that match. And it was a

675
00:57:43.880 --> 00:57:50.119
good match, good back and forth
match, and Tony Storm uh put her

676
00:57:50.119 --> 00:57:53.280
over pretty well. So I think
she could be used definitely in the in

677
00:57:53.320 --> 00:58:01.239
the future. Yeah, for sure. Okay, then, well, I'm

678
00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:06.119
gonna wrap this up for tonight because
tomorrow night on All We Talk, we're

679
00:58:06.119 --> 00:58:13.440
going to do a full preview of
of Dynasty. I'm hoping that they that

680
00:58:13.480 --> 00:58:16.840
they announced maybe a couple more matches, you know, for Dynasty, including

681
00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:22.559
Zero Hour tomorrow night. I don't
think they have any Zero hour matches yet,

682
00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:25.159
do they? No, they didn't
announce that these zero hours matches until

683
00:58:25.280 --> 00:58:30.800
real late on the last paper view
either has the has the just has Orange

684
00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:35.480
Casty and Britt had been added to
that yet? I don't think so.

685
00:58:35.559 --> 00:58:38.239
But that's a shoe I think that's
a shoe in. Yeah, I think

686
00:58:38.239 --> 00:58:43.800
that's Zero hour match. I would
like to see that on the main card

687
00:58:43.800 --> 00:58:52.840
because that's that's a really interesting match
to me, wondering well making that the

688
00:58:52.880 --> 00:59:02.039
main advent yeah Dark of the Yeah
Show. Yeah, Yeah, I mean,

689
00:59:02.320 --> 00:59:06.599
I mean, I'm interested to see
what comes up out of this tomorrow

690
00:59:06.639 --> 00:59:08.480
because there's a lot of segments that
canna have a lot of really good story

691
00:59:08.519 --> 00:59:13.519
coming out. We got John Moxley
Swerve coming out, we got some O

692
00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:16.679
Joe coming out. You know.
It's there's gonna be a lot of talking

693
00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:21.440
tomorrow night, a lot of story, and it looks like some pretty darn

694
00:59:21.559 --> 00:59:24.840
decent matches, especially that t n
T versus TBS championship match. That's gonna

695
00:59:24.880 --> 00:59:29.360
be awesome. Oh Julie, I'd
like to see her with two belts I

696
00:59:29.360 --> 00:59:36.440
don't care, you know, and
wrestling. I'm excited for that. It's

697
00:59:36.559 --> 00:59:43.480
fun. Yeah, I like to
see the precursor to Dynasty with Ocada facing

698
00:59:43.480 --> 00:59:46.639
off against Pack for at least a
little bit tomorrow night to see what happens.

699
00:59:47.079 --> 00:59:52.239
You know. So it's gonna be
a I'm interested in Kylo Riley versus

700
00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:57.960
Roddick Strong. I never figure I
would be interested in erotic Shawn mat but

701
00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:04.000
you like A and I like the
way those two are going at it.

702
01:00:04.280 --> 01:00:08.320
And but we'll see who wins that
one. But I like it seems like

703
01:00:08.440 --> 01:00:14.519
every man to me, and I
like the way he works and this would

704
01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:16.639
be a good few for him coming
back as well. Okay, well,

705
01:00:16.800 --> 01:00:22.519
well you will definitely talk about that
tomorrow night in our Dynasty preview because hopefully

706
01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:27.639
there's even more story that's brought out
about that Tomorrow night. I have a

707
01:00:27.639 --> 01:00:35.280
feeling we'll be hearing some more from
Roddy Strong and h and Kyle O'Reilly.

708
01:00:35.320 --> 01:00:39.039
If not tomorrow night, definitely on
on Friday or Saturday. Yeah. I

709
01:00:39.039 --> 01:00:43.440
mean, it's just I just don't
see why, how how they can get

710
01:00:43.440 --> 01:00:46.519
by it, because it is an
interesting story, despite the fact that who's

711
01:00:46.559 --> 01:00:52.960
in it, you know, So
you were gonna say something that m oh

712
01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:55.800
no, I was gonna say.
I like Kyle O'Reilly and I don't like

713
01:00:55.920 --> 01:01:04.000
Roderick Strong, So I'm interested to
see what's gonna happen there with that.

714
01:01:05.599 --> 01:01:08.920
Yeah, and oh, if you
all don't mind, I would like to

715
01:01:09.159 --> 01:01:15.400
maybe wish my my daughter a happy
birthday. Oh what's her name? Her

716
01:01:15.480 --> 01:01:22.119
name is Eve? Well, happy
birthday, Eve, everybody happy birthday at

717
01:01:22.159 --> 01:01:29.000
the same time. Happy birthday Eve. Who did her? Who did you

718
01:01:29.079 --> 01:01:35.719
name her after? She's just named
Eve like she just is her. Her

719
01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:40.159
sister also has three letters in her
name, so it went well together.

720
01:01:40.639 --> 01:01:50.320
So her sister's name is Bob.
Yeah, her sister Bob. And even

721
01:01:52.119 --> 01:01:58.079
she's she's she's young and she's come
in too wrestling with the beginning of a

722
01:01:58.559 --> 01:02:05.280
W and has quickly become a huge
wrestling fan. So, well, how

723
01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:10.880
old is Eve? She's twenty two. That is not young. That's younger

724
01:02:10.880 --> 01:02:19.440
than most older than most of the
wrestlers on the stardom roster. Eve,

725
01:02:20.119 --> 01:02:24.199
even you know you made me think
that he was like, you know,

726
01:02:25.039 --> 01:02:30.519
eight seven or something like that.
Say something you she's twenty two years old,

727
01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:35.440
so she's like, ave you know
your your mom named you after the

728
01:02:35.519 --> 01:02:39.559
first woman. I mean she she
went all the way back through all the

729
01:02:39.639 --> 01:02:49.199
names in the history and settled on
the first. Thank you guys, you

730
01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:53.320
are awesome. Well, Eve is
awesome because you've told me about even how

731
01:02:53.400 --> 01:03:01.119
much he loves a W And if
you love aw your a wsome it's better

732
01:03:01.159 --> 01:03:09.800
when you write it down. When
for my next joke, I'm going to

733
01:03:09.880 --> 01:03:17.960
fark the ABC's there you go.
Now that was be grunting, dude,

734
01:03:19.679 --> 01:03:22.599
Nothing was happening. But anyway,
we're going to wrap this up. I'm

735
01:03:22.639 --> 01:03:27.800
looking forward tomorrow night because we're probably
not going to talk about Dynasty, I

736
01:03:27.800 --> 01:03:31.119
mean Dynamite too much unless it relates
to Dynasty, because we do want to

737
01:03:31.119 --> 01:03:36.000
do a preview of Dynasty, So
be prepared for that. Get your thoughts

738
01:03:36.039 --> 01:03:42.119
together for what you think is going
to happen at Dynasty. Uh for myself,

739
01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:52.400
calson a Ka. That's a Poi
fan, Bye boy. I guess

740
01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:59.920
said goodbye in a different language.
That this is Alex saying goodbye as well,

741
01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:03.800
Bye boy. That's how. That's
why when that's a boy says goodbye.

742
01:04:03.880 --> 01:04:08.079
Anytime she's doing a promo, when
she just doesn't leave, she always

743
01:04:08.119 --> 01:04:11.559
has to say by Poi, which
makes no sense, And all the other

744
01:04:11.599 --> 01:04:15.239
wrestlers just kind of look at her
with this dumb stricken look on her face,

745
01:04:15.280 --> 01:04:17.880
like what the hell is we're looking
at her, We're looking at her

746
01:04:17.880 --> 01:04:26.159
microphone. Yeah yeah, so yeah, So so that's it for tonight,

747
01:04:26.400 --> 01:04:31.519
Bye boy, and uh, we'll
see you guys tomorrow. Night night