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This is the downbeat on ninety seven
The Freak. We've been on at six

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am. We podcast every single segment. Next week we're having our one year

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The Weekend series continues at Old seventy
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Skin Show Tend to two speak easy, two to six, but another opportunity

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to see the Benin Skin Show with
Christina and Steve is today. Tend to

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two over at Zoli's in Addison.
Good good spot right there, love Zoli's.

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We'll talk to the benn and Skin
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Mike, you've got a special guest
for us. Yeah, kind of.

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I mean, we talked earlier during
Dingo's Morning News about the murder man who

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was in jail because he killed some
senior citizens and he was swiftly dealt with

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Billy Chamirmir Billy Chimir me senior citizens
serial killer and he was killed in prison

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via combination of blood, force and
sharp object of some kind. And one

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thing we do want to continue to
do on the station is incorporate people who

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are listening. They can give us
perspective that we do not have. I've

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never really been in prison. I
mean two nights in jail, one and

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one one night and one night,
one of them in Mexico. But we

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encourage you if you if we're talking
about something that you have a specific knowledge

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of, but we certainly want you
to hit us up. A lot of

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people do it via the text two
and four or eight one seven seven eight

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seven one nine seven one. You
can feel free to text us throughout our

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show and correct us or give us
a much needed information that certainly helps whatever

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we're talking about. But we got
a text from a dude named Steve and

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he said he used to be a
corrections officer and he said I was shanked

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twice by two different styles of shanks. And I said, Steve, we

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would love to have you on the
air. And he said, yeah,

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so I'd like to welcome to the
program, Stave. Are you with this?

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Eve? Good morning to you?
Good morning, good morn How you

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doing man? Good? How are
you not too bad? Dude? Are

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you still in the correctional field or
have you moved on to a different type

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of employment. I have moved on. I was there from two thousand and

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two to twenty eleven. Okay,
so nine years of correctional service at t

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d c J. Correct, that's
the exact that's the place where this thing

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happens to this gutchy right, yes, all right, See, I don't

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think I can ask you too many
more questions other than the circumstances surrounding one

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or both times that you were shanked
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Well, it wasn't like a crazy, crazy crazy like you know,

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attacking me. It was more of
like they have nothing else to do kind

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of thing. So it was one
was a toothbrush that he sharpens in the

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back of his cell, and I
was just handing out food and he got

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my hand on that one and that
was required about a sixteen stitches on the

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inside of my hand, like one
hundred and twenty two on the outside of

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my hand. Oh my god.
Okay, So are you handing food through

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like the cell slots food slot?
Yes, And you hand this man his

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food and you get a sharpened toothbrush
through the palm of your hand on the

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outside or the sumb in between the
thumb and the pointer. Figure okay,

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good lord. Is it was it
one shot or a couple? Yes?

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Yeah? And when you pull your
hand out, is the sharpened toothbrush still

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there? Or is does he?
No? No, it was he had

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still with him. So how many
stitches? Sixteen on the inside for the

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attendance, and then I was like
one hundred and something on the outside just

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to hold it all together. Good
God. So that is an internal damage,

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right, yes? Yeah? Okay, that's why are you limited use

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of anything on the right hand?
Uh no, not now, except when

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when it's cold. I do a
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when I'm walking, uh it,
sometimes it'll lock up. So I have

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heated gloves for the winner. Okay, But golf swing is pretty much intact.

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He went. I swing my golf
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I always shank it to the right. Okay, I can't get the swing

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down. A lot of a lot
of shank related stuff with you, Steve.

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Okay, so that's shank Steve shanks
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time you get cleaned up and stitched
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pleasure of getting shank for a second
time. Certainly, lightning doesn't strike twice,

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right, It was a couple of
years later. But this one he

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actually it was more of a spear
shape. He was rolled newspapers and magazines

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together to make about a six foot
spear. And I was just casually walking

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down the aisle and he had a
ink thin I think it was uh taped

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to the end that was sharpened,
and just decided to you know, thrust

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it through the chicken wire that they
use on some of the self And luckily

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I was wearing a thrust vest,
so we glanced uh through the thrust vest

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and kind of got me on the
like kidney area, geez okay and pierce

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the skin again. Yes, that
one was only about twenty something stitches on

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the outside. There's nothing crazy internal
on that one. Yeah, but twenty

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stitches is a pretty big cut.
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in the hand, it's far larger, far worse than Kevo getting his warp

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removed. Yeah, Kevin, Yeah, yeah, Kevin, you're a current

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stitch hard Do you have any advice
for Steve? And I mean, stitch

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technology has changed over the years.
It was just two for me, and

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it was too They had to numb
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I mean for twenty I can imagine
real kindred spirits. Yeah, me and

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shank man Steve. So you I
found that very interesting how you started this

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by These are lifers, I'm guessing, and they're just bored. So they

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pretty much, I doubt, with
the the life long term, uh long

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long sentences, and they weren't getting
out no parole stuff like that. You

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did you make friends with any of
these dudes? Sit, we're lifers though,

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No, absolutely not. Okay,
that's and go home. Yeah,

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I was eighteen or I had of
high school when I started it. Yeah.

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How often you have to rough rough
people up with your stick? How

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often? Yeah? Not very I
mean the sticks were only for more escort

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purposes. We really didn't have him
on the block with us. Yeah.

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I had to use my stick on
an escort a couple of times. He's

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Danny Bayliss. Did a race car
just pass you. I'm actually bry An

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Airport. That was Parker Kligerman in
the freak car forty eight freakmobile. Uh.

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This is Steve who worked as a
correctionals officer and got shank twice in

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his time there. We're making spears
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That's the question statement Steve, Steve, Yes, sorry, great, there's

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another airplane. I don't know,
man, I feel like I could whip

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Steve with for like an hour about
random ask questions of all goes down with

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all this thing. I did like
the question did you make any friends?

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I guess that that was a hard
no from Steve. But I don't know,

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man, you got you guys made
a comment about a blunt object.

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So there was an incident that there
was some inmates who got into a fight

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in the kitchen and then the kitchen
they have to sign out their stuff and

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there was a dope cutter and they're
blunt and that was inserted in someone's skull

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in a fight during the kitchen one
day. Oh man, So all right,

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so these guys that are doing life, they got nothing to lose.

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I'm gonna I'm gonna shank Steve with
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me? What does happen to them? I mean that that for a while,

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possibly you know lifers, but they're
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them about somebody I mean would have
life or long term minuces about popular for

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roles really nothing, that's nothing really, nothing's really gonna go on there.

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And what's the deepest hole, like
the worst solitary like describe whatever the most

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trouble one of those dudes can get
in where you put them in? What

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a day is like that? I
mean most of the time they're locked down

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twenty four hours a day, uh, which would be the act said ad

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sake, lockdown twenty four hours a
day. They really only come out for

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one hour wreck at scortas of the
showers, stuff like that. Do you

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eat the same food they do when
I first started? No, but laws

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changed and then yes, so they
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than what they have. Is that
what the law change was? Yea?

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What was the name of that wall? I have no earthly idea. All

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I know if we had pancakes almost
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pancakes, I have trouble getting it
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definitely not a pancake guy anymore.
It's hard to get it going. So

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nine years there was there ever any
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successful break of any kind? But
any I mean, are they trying to

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figure out ways to break out all
the time, and you guys are also

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keeping an eye on what they're probably
thinking on how to bust out of this

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joint clean. Because the unit that
I started at, it was a transfer

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facility, So anybody who got arrested
didn't actually stake time. They were there

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for Matt sixty days to get processed
and stuff like that, so they really

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didn't have time at that facility.
Uh, but there was obviously the outside

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security, the parole are perimeter patrols
and stuff like that, but just in

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case, because there wasn't about two
hundred inmates that was permanently that wasn't you

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know, having crazy cases or long
term damn. All right, Steve Shankle,

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First, thank you for joining us
today. We appreciate your information.

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We love your info. Yeah,
thanks for listening to the show. Thanks

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for texting in. Thanks for jumping
on man. We hope. Uh those

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scars are merely cool looking now and
not not hurting you anymore. All right,

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I appreciate it. Thank you guys. Good luck man, all right,

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thanks thanks for hanging good luck.
Okay, good luck by Steve.

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Wait, were trying to wish a
guy good luck. Take care. Question

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if somebody is an inmate at t
d C. J wants to mail us

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in and equal time. Give us
the other side of this story. Yeah,

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tell us what was really good?
Infamous and evil Steve was a real

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nightmare to deal with. Yeah,
roughing people up, not treating us as

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men and normal innocent men. Yeah. From Steve Shanklford to Steve Shackleford with

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Christina Ray and Ben and Skin let's
go out to Zoli's and Addison. Hello

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friends, Hello, Hi band.
Well here's what we're cooking on our minds

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today. We're at Zoli's and Addison
at fourteen nine ten Midway Road. We'd

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encourage any freaks and glens in the
area to come have lunch with us today.

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We'll be here from ten to two. Zoli's New York Pizza. It's

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phenomenal. They also have an award
winning burger in the house. They've got

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a couple roller towns on tap,
the Octoberfest and the big German that's Brewer

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Investing. Play with their balls.
Yeah, Well, somebody's gonna have the

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chance to win pizza for a whole
year. Zoli's gonna be given away your

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chance to eat pizza at Zoli's for
an entire year. I think a full

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meal of pizza food once per week
for a year. Incredible. That's what

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they have it like sorted out as
a one full pizza per week for years.

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A fifty two p fifty two pizza
pickup today, normal life? That

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is like Christina's normal life. Yeah, fifty two pizza pickup at Zoli's or

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in the Bend and skin show today. Christina had pizza last night. I

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did a pizza last night at the
Elamo Drafthouse and mid movie. She just

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handed me a slice of pizza,
which is not an abnormal move for Christian.

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But you got mad at me because
I didn't order your food. I

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was like, I'm sorry, he's
always berating her in public. I know

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yells at me all the time.
Please tell them I didn't get mad about

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that or anything mad. No,
I felt bad because she took my order

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and Mike was like, oh,
I was going to order something. I

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was like, okay, did you
not see me at the front of the

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theater doing a stand up comedy performance
while you were ordering? Just making people

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happy? Just write it down and
put on the theme. Yeah, man,

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what about when you stood up mid
movie spiked that football and yelled laces

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out at Christina. We all,
he'll die, Dann die. You were

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a little abusive last night, just
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living the life that I do.
I see a lot of people that I've

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made sad. I see a lot
of I'm often surrounded by sadness, but

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I don't know that I've ever seen
sadness like the look on the face of

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Skin's daughter when she stood up to
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watch last night. Man, a
lot of confusion in my family. I'm

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like, why do you laugh once? No? I'm like, come on

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once, no one laugh. She
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during the funniest part, which one
the rewind part. I'm trying to remember

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the funny part. I think it
was when we were having this conversation on

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the way home, and I think
my wife said, I did laugh when

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he walked out of that bathroom after
the shark attack, Okay, and so

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we I think we agreed that that
was the moment that Mina missed. My

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son, Desmond laughed the most.
He liked it. I interviewed them I

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didn't record it after the movie and
leaned down and I said, so,

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you guys had never seen this movie
before, and they Bill said no,

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and I go it sucked, right, Mia goes yeah, and Desk goes,

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I liked it. He's so sweet. Yeah, he's the sweetest boy

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in the world. He's very agreeable, that boy. I love him.

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I kinda think it holds up Sam's
the homophobia. I kissed a man.

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Look at the links that I'm going
to go through to eliminate any simple to

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this from my body or memory,
including Plunger to the face. Danny laughed

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at Plunger to the face. It
was I should have taken phone notes every

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time Danny laughed, and the whole
movie, it was most of the movie.

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Laugh a minute in that thing.
But you're laughing at how absurd.

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It's like almost like ironic laughter,
because it's so bad, it's so dumb

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and so stupid that you cannot help
but laugh. Yes, So I went

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and looked up the screenplay last night. They had it posted online. It

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said Carrie Physical Humor, one hour, ten minutes, and then underneath it

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said trans joke and that was the
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okay, roll the camera and then
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let's see what we get early in
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And he definitely walked in with I've
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get in this film, all right, because at the end of the film

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he wasn't Hollywood's first twenty million dollar
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on the verge of being that.
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being that. That's right. So
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formula, and I think more movies
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great. And I'm like, you
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wearing dolphins gear? Yeah, that
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going around and yes, buying cocktails, but as promised, not sticking around

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to conversate. We've got no no
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take this over there? He would
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shirt, like I saw perfect Tommy
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I gotta go. I don't need
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you a drink, all right,
order up whatever, well, well or

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draft you choose. What time are
you guys reviewing this uh nineteen ninety four

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cinema classic right off the rip at
ten o'clock we were going to get into

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an incredible night last night at the
Alamo Draft House Cinema on Lake Highlands with

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the mighty downbeat. We got what's
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the history of the world coming back
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at ten thirty, and then a
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Star action all right, and what
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after a little bit later, we're
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loose, and Texas we're talking about
a big Rangers win. Then at one

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this day throughout history, and then
Dan Hunt joins us in person about that

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at Zoli's and Addison. Dan Hunt
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Of course, he owns FC Dallas
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forty shorty guys, all right,
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then we'll get what's on Mike's mind. We'll at Julie Sports desk. We'll

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get the best segment period, and
then we'll get some other stuff. This

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rundown feels thin. Oh yeah.
At six oh five, we'll have a

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replay of the scuttle butt here what's
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seriously, guys. At eleven twenty
five, we have a prosper Ford spot.

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Okay, seriously good the call away, the whole way. I think,

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let's see it's working. I actually
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and put prosper on your roster.
Crimes really do work. All right,

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Christina, you look hot today,
thanks to you. Bye, have a

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fun show, all right. Thanks. I hope you guys figure out what

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you're gonna do today. You guys
gonna ask Dan Hunt about trailer. You

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guys like sex. What time are
you guys on the air. We'll make

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out yep, let's go all right
fine, We'll be back tomorrow morning at

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six am. Join us at eight
for Scorching Hunt Cowboys Predictions. Also Ryder

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Cup Action Live. Can't wait to
hear Benn and Skin break that down as

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the pairings will be out soon.
Thank you to Barry Church, our mystery

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celebrity guest picker today. Thank you
this Steve Shanklford for calling in, and

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also thank you to J. J. Jackson, Mike's Roy, Danny Bayless,

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I'm Kevin. We'll way back tomorrow
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fun day on the downbeat. Benn
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