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Extreamly live. I mean, iHeart
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the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay
Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey,

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welcome back to iyn the Ball here
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm

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Steve, He's Jay. Now we
have Henry with breaking new uh for the

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first story for former Arizona basketball players
including Jason Terry are suing the NCAA over

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ni use in March Madness highlights.
And this included unauthorised use of their name,

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image and likeness in March Madness promotion
highlights. Did you see that?

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It came out? Yes, yesterday
today A J. Bramlett, aj Bramlett,

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Jeanie Editcherson, and Jason Stewart.
I guess from the ninety seven riears.

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I don't know what their case would
be. Yeah, I mean is

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that I mean, is that like, Okay, I'm gonna you know,

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I'm gonna see there is on daily
start for putting my picture in the paper.

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It seems like isn't it property of
the n c double A to use

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because they Yeah, it was a
tournament, it was there. Are they

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or are they suing? Are they
suing the right people? Yeah? I

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don't I don't know. I read
it and I'm thinking, Okay, what

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are you after? Right? You
know, I don't know. We've tried

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to reach a Brownlett the last few
days and not regarding this, but it's

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interesting because him and Jason were very
close obviously like brothers, and then Jeane

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Jean we've had him on the show. I just find it kind of strange

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that, you know, they see
their images on the on the promo and

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they say, what about it?
We need to get paid for that.

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Yeah, I don't know. I
don't know, Steve, Yeah, I

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don't know what you know, what
you can you can do there, But

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again, you know, it's it's
that question, right, are they gonna

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are they now going to want to
start getting paid retro to be to come

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on our radio show? Yeah?
Yeah, no, no, we've talked

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about that, right, right,
yeah, And it's a kind of a

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we've talked about that, right.
So, either you want to come on

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the show, we're not gonna pay
you. We're not gonna pay you,

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right, but you get the publicity
for being on the show. It's a

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catch twenty two, right, right, we need you and you need us.

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Yes, Oh god, that's a
man, that's a very slippery,

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slippery slope. I was trying to
think it's a very slippery slope to start

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doing that because, uh, you
know, I know that we're not gonna

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pay anybody to come on the shot. No we're not. And you know,

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you know, are they gonna have
to start signing something or don't they

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sign something that says I don't think
you know, you play athletics, we

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get to use you in promotion.
But you didn't think about that twenty seven

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years ago, right, you just
play and and Okay, the CBS tapes,

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it watches it, blah blah blah, use it re uses it.

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That was part of the deal,
and it I thought it was. It

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seemed to me that it was I
don't know. Okay, Well, I

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guess we'll find out more. Lebron
has a fish. So you re signed

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with the Lakers on a two year, one hundred four million dollars deal with

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the player option for next year and
the not trade clause. And BROWNI has

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also signed his rookie contract, a
four year, seven point nine million dollar

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deal for each year or for total
total, so two years to two million

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a year, Yeah, one hundred
and four for two years we were talking

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about people being unemployed and blah blah
blah. We know who's making the money.

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It's a pro athletes. They are. They continue to to make a

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lot of money. Yeah, they
continue to go ahead and go ahead.

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I want to talk about the next
one or two that you have. H

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Pella Larson has officially signed his contract
with the Heat. It is a three

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year deal for five point four million
dollars, which is incredible to me.

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Well, not that much. Did
you get the rest of that story posing

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that story? Uh? Okay?
So I was telling Jaya in that story,

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Uh, that said that that mister
Johnson Keyshot was paid a reported four

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hundred thousand dollars for last year for
the nil I almost show off my seat.

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I gave you a chance to guess. Yeah, I love all day

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And you think that's good. I
thought if he was making one twenty five,

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that's pretty damn good. Yeah,
four hundred thousand. I wonder if

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he came here, Yeah, right, San Diego wasn't gonna go j j

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Okay, he's making four hundred thousand, katle B Love, what's he making?

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Pela Larson? What's he making?
One of these guys? Right,

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Omar making a million. Indiana reportedly, Jay, you make a lot of

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money in your life, and you
make it. If you were to make

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a lot of money to do this, would you pay these kids a million

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dollars four hundred thousand dollars to come
to your school? I want to know

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who's paying him? Right? Who
is it? Four hundred thousand dollars?

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Yeah? I mean who did the
U of A go to and say we

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need four hundred thousand dollars for Keisha
Johnson? And somebody said, okay,

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yeah, who did that? I
don't get it. I don't get it.

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And people poop pooh me being a
fan of of not being a fan

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of sports. This continues my down
for downward spiral of not being a fan.

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I having an interesting conversation with my
gang for my my Wednesday gang,

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and you know, a couple are
just saying, I don't like any of

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what's going on here. I do
not like any of this. Sure,

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And I'm like, what part don't
you like? And they said, you

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know, I don't like just what
all this has become that you know that

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everything's about you know, the the
you know, these athletes, they're getting

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money, they're all these things that
he said, I don't mind them.

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I don't mind them getting the money. But what I what I don't like

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is what it's doing to everything else. Right, the leagues have fallen apart.

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We're in the Big twelve. Now, just what what college athletics has

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become? And said, you know, how do we get here? I

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said, we got here because they
should have been sharing the money a long

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time. Sure, sure, right, that's right. If athletes were coming

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here all right back thirty years ago
and they were making an extra ten thousand

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dollars as a season or whatever,
they wouldn't be here demand you know,

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a million and change. No,
and then back then that would have been

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a lot of money. But you
know, you're right, You're right,

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and everyone's this is like you say, the wild wid wild wild West.

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Somebody's making four hundred, someone making
five hundred, someone's making two hundred.

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More power to them, right,
dot dot dot where? But right,

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yeah, where? You would have
never guessed four hundred thousand dollars. No,

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I would have. I would have
thought. I wouldn't have thought that

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anybody would come up for a guy
who we didn't know at all. Right,

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yeah, okay, yeah, you
got to the final four, But

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who was he to the program?
So let me ask where was he going

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to be for the program? Let
me ask both of your cookie I'm sure

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you have some more, right,
but not so you're making your coach making

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five seven million dollars. Your job
is dependent on there, on your on

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your success, and your success uh
not dictates, but your your job is

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depending on your suscess. And you
need to pay some players four hundred thousand

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dollars. Are you gonna dip into
your own salary to pay these kids?

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I already know the answer no,
exactly exactly, But some of the peep

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if they, if they, if
they were willing to do that, they

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would be saying, I don't need
seven million dollars a year, give me

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five and put the other two towards
some players exactly I wanted to go there

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with. And they're not. They're
not going to do that, right,

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right, Brent Venables, right he
you know he's going to the SEC he

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needs more and better players. Yet
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he demanded it, but he got
a four hundred thousand dollars a year raise.

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You could have bought a nice offensive
lineman for that much apparently, right,

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Yeah, maybe two mediocre or a
decent running back or something. So

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yeah, I I you know,
yeah, No, it's it's uh,

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it's it's it's god. I I'm
not gonna say I'm shocked, but I

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didn't expect to hear that, right, Yeah, the appelly stuff didn't surprise

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me. The other stuff did.
Arizona Ralph Dalladan will represent Luxembourg in the

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Olympics in the one hundred meter free
size. Oh another an Arizona guy in

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the Olympic. Cool swim swimming,
right swim? Yeah, all right,

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awesome, awesome. Saw. The
w NBA All Stars were announced last night,

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including Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese,
and the All Stars will be playing

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in a game versus the US Women's
Olympic team on July twentieth up in Phoenix.

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Four. We all started. Yeah, I saw that because Reese was

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crying about it, that she was
happy with and thrilled about it, and

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Kaitlyn was sw How those two get
along on you in the locker room?

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Yeah, no, I think that's
all. That'll be fine. Look in

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the end, they both know that
what each of them is doing right,

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keeping the keeping everything, you know, there's twenty thousand people at the game

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last night and twenty grand Yeah,
did you did you see that they've changed

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the name of the arena in Vegas? Yeah, it's it's not. It

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wasn't Tea. They didn't call it
Team Mobile, oh something else. It's

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officially, Yeah, it wasn't.
It was in the story because they said

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the name of the arena. I'm
like, who's that? Isn't that Team

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Mobile arena? They named it something
else and I can't remember what it is.

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Well, I didn't know that,
But what does it matter because we're

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not gonna be going there anymore.
That's what you should be sad about about

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not going to Vegas. I'm really
sad about that. I'm I'm very unhappy

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about that. You're excuse now,
Yeah, I'm super unhappy about that.

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It sucks that that you know that
that that that that's over with? Are

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you kidding? Me? Very very
unhappy, Henry. The last thing I

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got the Seattle Krack, and I've
made Jessica Campbell the first women's assistant coach

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in NHL history. Yeah, I
saw that. So that women are coming

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in an n b A hockey,
baseball. I don't mind that. I

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don't mind. Okay, I guess
I was wrong. I guess I read

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something wrong. It is still T
mobile to Okay, all right, anything

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else we got? Okay, got
brot Yeah? How much is this contract

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again? Four years seven point nine
million? Though, well, Bronnie,

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you're talking about Tom how many again? Three years five point four million?

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And he was picked eleven picks before. Thinks at least ten picks before.

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Bro must be nice. I told
you what my son said to his kid.

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He said, you're going to be
a basketball player. You're not playing

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soccer. You're not playing baseball,
you're not playing football, you're playing back.

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Anybody told Gonzales that he's a Hispanic. He you know, you could

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be about six at the luck with
that, you're right, and he's very

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short right now. Golf, Yeah, golf, play golf, play some

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golf, get good at get good
at the golf. Yeah. You know,

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I kind of kick myself and not
putting more effort into my golf game

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when I was at a young age, I wasn't gonna be any good.

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That wasn't gonna be any good.
Ok He gonna gotta call save save his

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caller, How you're in the air
and on the ball man I was calling

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repetitions. He very eager because there
was there was talk about contributing to the

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show and not getting paid. And
there is a saying in Spanish edis or

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theosis. So for you to pooh
pooh players being paid, they be getting

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paid. That you all know that. You know that Sean Miller did not

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get fired for paying his players.
He got fired because he was an a

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hole. And you know that.
Well for our non speaking you know,

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my lost my mom and I'm gonna
miss these little sayings of you guys.

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So give us the translation. And
you're saying, although it doesn't translate directly,

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you are you're acting like it.
Yeah right, yeah, right,

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yeah it Kevin translates differently, but
you're right, no, no, no,

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but like not acting like you like
it doesn't translate perfect, but it's

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like an ignorant thing that it's okay
to be ignorant in the stain. But

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hey, I'm going to New mexicoo
this weekend and going to real ranch.

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It's awesome. New Mexico is awesome. It has mountains, it has water,

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it's cool as heck. You know
what the worst thing about New Mexico

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is tell me the drive New Mexicans. Well let me tell you that.

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I'm like, it's mostly Texans.
Now, well, yeah, the liberal

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ones. Are you going to real
Rancho? You said, yeah, okay,

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so you're not too far from Sertas
Pay. Just head up the road

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a little bit. I want I
don't want look at jagged bro like I

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have my catalytic converter back. I
don't want to you you're talking about because

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Aranchio, I mean Reorancher, you
might have trouble, but not inside of

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fe you You might be the guy
that says, what the hell you doing

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in here? Get out of this
town. But at the same time,

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with all right, Kayley cart w
A B A team, it's beautiful.

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If you don't see it for what
it is, there is heels and babyfaces,

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this is this is Vince McMahon ask
and they're playing off the race card.

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And if you don't see it from
them all away, like you have

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an agenda, like really honestly with
with with that straight up what it talks

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about basketball? Right, No,
you're right. The Vince mcmanon thing is

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because it is a right now,
it's a novelty, but in a good

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way. Yeah, say how it
is next year right right the way you

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dug into it, Steve, you
have a passionate oh side on it.

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So it's very compelling. It's something
that we could all talk about. It's

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Larry Bird and Magic Johnson, but
different because there's so many other elements.

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Right, No, you're right,
you're right, you're a smart man,

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mister fat Mike, Hey, don't
put perfume on mey and then something now

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like no, don't do that.
I thought my mic was off, my

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Michael was off. No, I
just I don't. Yeah, thanks for

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the call, man. We got
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they were't getting paid four hundred grand
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Sure, exactly, Yeah, maybe
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All right, let's take a break. We're going to come back. Bob

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all the exes at oh, It's
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on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteenth. Hey, welcome back to Win the

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I'm Steve, He's Jay, and I'm

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hoping. This is Bob Kemp on
the Sun Radio. Hi there, Hey

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Bob, how are you? Did
you fall asleep on us? Actually I

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did in the chair. Yeah,
I wish I could do that right now

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in my chair. You doing not
a deep d chair, but by lazy

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before I share want I figured it
as much every guy deserves a lazy boy

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chair. How are you? How
are you feeling? I'm good. I'm

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on vacation. That's why I'm falling
asleep in my chair. Okay, there

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you go. We wanted to talk
to you real quick about all things going

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on in Phoenix and Tempe and the
like. Did did Did you see the

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poll yesterday? Ashue picked the finish
last in the Big Twelve? Shock?

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Not a shock. I did see
it, and I wasn't really shocked at

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all, even though I'm not quite
as familiar with the Big Twelve as I

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should be at this time. I'm
going to do that during my vacation time

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here, but not today. Uh
but uh, you know they did.

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It's not surprised. Basically, I
can't imagine. There are too many teams

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that have the worst level of a
uh talent on their roster that they issue.

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Did didn't he bring in some guys
though? Didn't? Didn't he?

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Or is this is the recruiting he
did for next year? I'm not even

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sure? I mean, you know, I completely yeah, after we were

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promised a couple of well last year
that they were going to be much improved

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and all this talent was out there
and really they didn't have much and they

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only the best player they had was
Elijah Badger for the last two years that

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he left, So they just don't
have much. Yeah, make kind of

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makes sense that they're going to be
where they're picked. Well, what kind

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of guy is he? Do you
guys like him? I think a lot

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of people. I think it's people
like him because he's a local product from

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a Chaparral High school and went to
ISU and local kid comes back and it's

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the job and and so forth.
It's very It was difficult to evaluate him

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as a coach last year because they
weren't good, and they also, you

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know what shoe talented players they have. Some of them got hurt. In

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fact, a lot of them got
hurt, and you know, they kind

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of have to use gimmicks to just
try to stay in games, and that

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kind of worked a couple of times
against UCLA had worked, but pretty much

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other than that it didn't. So
it's I it's it incomplete in all areas

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for me. Yeah, that makes
sense. How often do you talk about

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them on your show I'm the school
itself. Not much at this time of

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the year. Once the season starts, we will, but there's hardly all

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there's hardly any talk about it during
the off season, well in season then

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maybe daily every other day as long. Well during the season, for sure,

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it's almost every day there's at least
some kind of news update or I

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listened to all the I listened all
the press conference is and yeah, if

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there's an injury update, even though
they don't really ever tell us any injury

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updates, just whatever the news of
the day might be. But uh,

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interest in ASU football has declined,
uh greatly since like really the second year

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of the hermit since the COVID year. Wow, there they looked like they

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were set up to do some major
damage before you know, all that,

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and before COVID and the year before
they were really good. They are all

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the young players, including Jane Daniels
obviously, and it looked like that they

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were on the right track. Uh. Then between COVID and obviously the illegal

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recruiting and everything else that's gone on. Uh, you know, they lost

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scholarships and they're paying for that now. So let me ask you, in

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your grand scheme of things, give
me the rankings of the topics. Is

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it songs, cardinals, an a
issue? Where do they all fall in

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this line of of of the issue
is a issue a distant last everybody,

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including the Diamondbacks, So give me
the list of top to bottom. I

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think it also depends on the time
of the year, obviously, when the

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Suns are playing and people have the
false hope that they might actually have a

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chance to win a championship, which
I never believed for one minute. You

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know, they were number one for
a while. The Cardinals were awful last

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year, and everybody knew they were
going to be awful. They're going to

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be I think almost as bad this
year, quite frankly, but the people

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have been duped into thinking they might
be better. They might they're going to

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be better because it's almost impossible to
be worse than they were last year.

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And the Diamondbacks have been you know, they went to the World Series.

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They've been disappointing this year, even
though they certainly have had injuries. I

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think the biggest misconception and Valley Sports
since the moment, at least currently,

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is that everybody seems to forget or
not even be aware that teams other than

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the Diamondbacks in Major League Baseball,
including two in their own really three in

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their own division, even the Dodgers, but especially the Podres and the Giants

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have had just as many injuries or
as key injuries as the Diamondbacks have.

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Yeah, okay, all right,
going back to the Diamondbacks. You know

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they I mean they're coming off of, you know, a World Series.

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I mean, is it. I
mean, they're just still not People aren't

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jumping up and down about them this
year. Well, I think they are.

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I mean, obviously the crowds,
you know, they had the residual

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effect of going to the World Series. You know, the attendance has been

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way up. I'm not real sure
about the television rankings because the TV contract

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is kind of you know, obviously
another another sticking point here, but uh

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yeah, they really they were an
above average team last year. They barely

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even got into the playoffs. They
were the last seed in the National League.

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They got hot at the right time. Excuse they got hot at the

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right time, and you know,
they they had some guys that really over

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over for formed and this year they
haven't been as good. Corwick Carroll excuse

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me, Corbick Carroll has been the
biggest thing. I mean, he hit

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twenty five home runs last year.
He's hit two this year. He's not

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driving the ball. There are a
lot of people, at least in the

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baseball community that think that he is
having some kind He had shoulder surgery two

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years ago, three years ago,
three years ago when he was in the

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minor leagues, missed that entire season. Last year he came back, or

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really to last two years, he
came back, and last year he was

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still a Rookie of the Year eligible
even though he played some with the major

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league level of the year before.
And yeah, he was really good last

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year, especially in the first half
of the season before the All Star break,

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and he had some shoulder same shoulder
issues towards a right before the Friday

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before the All Star break last year, and then he decided, well maybe

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they decided, somebody decided, or
I'm guessing as a group effort. You

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know, the All Star Game last
year was in Seattle. He is from

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Seattle. He was not going to
miss that game. And when he probably

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should have sat out for a while, he's like, didn't set out hardly

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any time. I think he missed
one game, and then when they went

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right into the All Star break and
he went to Seattle for that, and

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when they came back after the All
Star break, he missed no time and

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was right back in the lineup.
So let me say this, Uh,

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Bob, everyone here in this town
listening to the show thinks I'm the mister

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Debbie Downer. You sound like me, only are You're just stating the facts,

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Bob. How can we become Downers
and you're just telling them the truth?

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Well that's true. I mean the
people don't want to listen to the

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facts. I mean they're fans,
they're fanatics. You know, there's a

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you know, that's what fans dance, and some of some of us have

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to be a reality here for the
f Bob, I applaud you because I

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used that same word. Jay's the
fan in the room, and good good

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for J. But baby J needs
a little hit of reality. I've said

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I get it every I get it
every day. Bob. He's he's a

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grump. He really is. He's
a grump. He's a total I've been

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called far worse than a grumpy.
That's good, good, good for you

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once again. I mean. He
tried to talk a guest yesterday out of

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going down her career path, but
she said she wanted to be being sports

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journalism and broadcasting and he's like,
don't do that. You're not gonna make

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any money, like shoot her down, dude, Well, money can't buy

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you love to quote the Beatles from
nineteen sixty three. So I'm not exactly

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living in a placi Will stage here, but I've had a I've had a

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nice career, really not having really
not having to work in my life between

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print journalism and radio. So that's
good. I like, I like to

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think way things are gone all right, So, like you mentioned the Cardinals,

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you think they're going to be bad
too. What's what's your prognosis there?

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Right? So far? I just
don't think they've upgraded the roster enough.

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And plus I think we've had this
discussion before, because I've pretty much

408
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had this discussion of everybody in the
state of Arizona and beyond. I just

409
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:18.200
don't think Kyler Murray's very good.
Yeah, yeah, he's no better now

410
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:22.599
than I shouldn't say he is.
You would think somebody has been around for

411
00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:26.200
five seasons would have improved far more
than this, and he's definitely not done

412
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:30.079
that. Totally agree with you,
Totally agree with you, And there's a

413
00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:33.039
lot of hope there, but you
know, come on, at some point

414
00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:37.000
you got to realize the hope's gone. Well, they're not thinking that.

415
00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:41.119
I mean, he's still under contract
for you know, I honestly I lost

416
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:47.559
track with his contract. He's around, there's an opt out for somebody after

417
00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:51.039
this year. And you know last
what I said all last year is the

418
00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:53.640
best thing that could have happened to
the Cardinals after my Murray came back from

419
00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:57.319
the injury is that he was really
good, and he was good enough for

420
00:29:57.400 --> 00:30:00.599
them to trade him in the off
season. But he wasn't very good and

421
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:06.039
he's still here. Yeah. Yeah, Uh, I was gonna ask you

422
00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:07.720
something. Uh oh, let's go
back to issue real quick. Uh.

423
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:14.160
Basketball Hurley has taken his lumps down
here and and all over the place.

424
00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:19.319
But hey, he's got something going
maybe possibly with a couple of guys that

425
00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:23.000
didn't want to come here that went
up there. And he's got one about

426
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:27.119
the recruiting classes. What's going on
up there. You have a much better

427
00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:33.880
track of the recruiting people in classes
and players than I do. I used

428
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:37.279
to do when I especially when I
lived in Las Vegas one hundred years ago,

429
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:40.319
I used to see all these guys
play because every you know, all

430
00:30:40.359 --> 00:30:44.640
these big tournaments were in Las Vegas
in those days. I've lost track of

431
00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:48.839
the recruiting world. You just don't
have time for all this anymore, for

432
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:52.319
everything, So I kind of,
you know, picked U picked and choose

433
00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:56.640
my spots. So it sounds like
they've done a good job recruiting, But

434
00:30:56.720 --> 00:31:02.359
I fell for this and that.
Josh Christopher, yeah, he was going

435
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:07.480
to save their program and he ruined
their program. Yeah, yeah, you're

436
00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:11.680
right. Personalities, ego stuff like
that. Yeah. Yeah, Christopher was

437
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:17.640
the best talent that they've recruited other
than James Harden since I've been here since

438
00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:22.519
two thousand and two, and just
basketball talent wise, Christopher was the best

439
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:26.960
guy they've had. But he was
the most selfish player and quite frankly,

440
00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:30.960
not as good as he was supposed
to be, even if you take out

441
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:36.119
the selfish part. And they didn't
I thought they were like sweet sixteen material

442
00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:38.559
that year when I first saw them
play. They didn't even make the NCAA

443
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:44.759
tournament that year. Yeah, yeah, no, I hear you. It's

444
00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:49.200
a it's I don't know, you
just you wonder. And I thought this

445
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:52.960
from the beginning. He just never
fit here. It just seems like he's

446
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:56.960
never fit here. Yeah, I
don't know. I've seen you know,

447
00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:01.200
many many coaches this year. Rob
Evans was their head coach when I first

448
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:06.759
got here, right so, and
they wanted to they ran Herb out it

449
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:09.559
here and he was actually the best
basketball coach all the guys that I've been

450
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:15.640
here, that they've had basketball coach, and that David Herb was not exactly

451
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:19.759
the most the easiest guy to He
wasn't a bad guy. It was just

452
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:23.319
he was not a people person,
Let's put it that way. So I've

453
00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:28.039
even said that. I even told
him once that he was like the most

454
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:32.440
difficult interview I've ever had in my
life in my professional career, trying to

455
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:37.640
do a radio interviewers. After it
was he wasn't a bad guy until we

456
00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:42.480
finally figured out one time if we
just asked him something about basketball and the

457
00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:45.519
rules of the game and the way
the game is being played and so forth.

458
00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:50.680
Yeah, I wish I'd done that
like five years before. But from

459
00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:54.279
that point on we were fine.
But I mean, but he was not

460
00:32:54.480 --> 00:33:00.640
mister personality. And if you're going
to be a basketball and the issue basketball

461
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:05.000
coach in this city, uh yeah, certainly because because the Suns, if

462
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:07.640
the Suns are good, which they
weren't, for some of those years.

463
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:13.480
But if the Suns are good,
ASU basketball takes a back seat by long

464
00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:17.720
long distance. Let me ask you, just the Coyotes left the town headed

465
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:23.839
to Salt Lake, does it diminish
the thought that the Phoenix is a major

466
00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:28.599
league town. I don't think so, because I don't think you know,

467
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:32.720
I was what we used to carry. Our station used to carry the Coyotes

468
00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:37.559
when I first got here, and
they actually carried the Coyotes from the time

469
00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:43.759
they got here and until it was
like two thousand and eight or nine or

470
00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:46.319
so. I think it was actually
before that, but sometimes the two early

471
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:51.279
two thousands, the first decade of
the two thousands, whatever we're supposed to

472
00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:55.400
call that decade, that we did
not carry them anymore because we were our

473
00:33:55.440 --> 00:34:00.960
station was actually losing money by carrying
the hockey team. And that was fifteen

474
00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:07.319
years ago, roughly. And I
can't imagine. I never understood from the

475
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:10.519
day I got here, or probably
even before I got here, how the

476
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:15.239
desert is going to support a hockey
team. And I know that Connor McDavid

477
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:17.559
is the greatest player in the world, he's from here. I don't know

478
00:34:17.559 --> 00:34:22.079
how that worked, no idea how
that happened. But I mean, he's

479
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:27.320
just a freak. But David,
this is not a hockey community. And

480
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:31.679
they've tried, the owners, different
buildings, they've tried everything, and it

481
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:37.480
was just never going to work.
And you know, it's almost never a

482
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:44.000
topic discussion on my show for ten
years unless it was something about them leaving,

483
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:47.880
whether they were leaving or not.
And now they thankfully are gone.

484
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:57.840
I think, yeah, okay,
well, thanks for being grumpy. Grumpy.

485
00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:04.039
There's a difference between grumpy and just
telling the truth differ. I'm gonna

486
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:08.559
go buy I'm gonna go buy a
bumper sticker with exactly that. The listeners

487
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:13.679
discretion and figure that out there.
That's their problem with the if they think

488
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:16.480
we're grumpy and not telling the truth, and there in denial. Told you

489
00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:21.519
that's the my next the next book. Thank you, Bob, Hey,

490
00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:24.320
thanks so much. I appreciate it. If you're going to make up you

491
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:27.800
write a book about all this stuff. I'm saying, I need a copy

492
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:35.320
right now to my friend Bob for
the title of my book. I get

493
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:37.199
a residual for that. Well,
we're going to sell two books, so

494
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:44.360
don't worry about it. How much? Yeah, I told you journalism.

495
00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:45.920
You don't make very exactly. You
just don't. Thank you both. Thanks

496
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:50.800
so much. You got to make
what you can't. Thanks. Have a

497
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:53.960
great weekend. Okay, guys,
take there. Thanks. Thanks all right,

498
00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:57.119
let's take our last break of the
week. We're going to come back

499
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and we'd love to get some calls. Five two zero four, one,

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the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay
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542
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welcome back to I in the Ball
here in Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

543
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Steve Rivera, he's Jaginsauce Scott,
a guy Henry with us. We got

544
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fourteen minutes. We'd appreciate it.
If you called us, we'd take the

545
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call. Five two, o four, one, six, seventy four or

546
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:32.159
forty. See what's going on in
your summer? Yep? Ready for football?

547
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:37.079
I am? Maybe the callers might
be the same. Did I think

548
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:40.760
I know you ring? Yeah?
I got six weeks? Maybe No,

549
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:45.400
I think I saw sixty three days
or something like that. So it's about

550
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:47.880
nine weeks. Maybe it's listening listen
then I think, because it's a nine

551
00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:52.320
weeks from this last Saturday to the
first Arizona So yes, about eight weeks

552
00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:58.400
maybe time seventy eight weeks yep?
Okay, yeah, you know, my,

553
00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:00.760
my, you know, we're fired
up. I think everybody's looking forward

554
00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:04.639
to just getting this thing started,
to see what it looks like, and

555
00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:07.760
you know, you know, the
New Mexico game is gonna come in,

556
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:13.039
and you're gonna want Arizona to beat
the hell out of them, or at

557
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:15.480
least be impressive, right, yeah, be impressive, be impressive, and

558
00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:22.840
uh, you know it's it's gonna
be Look, we're not gonna know how

559
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:27.719
good they are at that time.
At least you know they you know,

560
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:30.039
they come because because look, let's
you know, who are we talking about

561
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:36.280
the other day we were talking with
Jake. You know that rich Trod's first

562
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:39.199
year, right, and they barely
beat Toledo, you know, and then

563
00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:42.519
they had you know, then they're
pretty good, got to a bowl game,

564
00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:45.519
and you know the first year,
yeah, was his first year or

565
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:47.719
second year, I think the first
year they played at Toledo or no,

566
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:52.559
they played played Toledo here went into
overtime with them, Yeah, twenty four

567
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:54.599
to seventeen. Yeah, was that
twenty twelve? Twenty twelve? Yeah,

568
00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:58.000
it went into overtime? Was that? God? Rich? And then they

569
00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:01.400
beat the hell out of Oklahoma State
fifteen ninety eight. I remember Rita in

570
00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:06.280
the in the hallway there before the
locker room, and everyone's going and she's,

571
00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:08.960
okayn't believe this. Yeah, your
second game in we were stunned.

572
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:14.079
Yeah. Plus if I ever call
Oklahoma State came out was kicking their asses

573
00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:15.760
in the first like in the first
quarter, right, and then Arizona just

574
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:20.559
went nuts. Then they beat South
Carolina State fifty six zero, and then

575
00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:23.920
they gotta beat forty nine to zero
to organ Ouch. Yeah, that one

576
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:31.119
hurts, but you know it was
fun, and so you don't you know

577
00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:35.679
you're gonna want them to take I
look, the thirty and a half points.

578
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:37.320
I don't give a crap if they
cover that or not. If they

579
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:43.760
just went comfortably and don't make us
think, ugh, I bet you they

580
00:41:43.800 --> 00:41:47.280
do. But sure they do cover
because New Mexico's not gonna be that good

581
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:50.840
and they're gonna be a good at
least a good offense. I think they're

582
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:53.480
pretty good defense in Arizona. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, they got

583
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:57.480
some players. Yeah with the with
their wide sting, they've got a bunch

584
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:00.760
of NFL guys, you know,
right, all right, let's take this

585
00:42:01.960 --> 00:42:07.440
hi around there and I on the
ball. Hey doing skim Jim Jim?

586
00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:13.840
What is that? Man? Well, it's summer, yes, but I'm

587
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:22.079
wondering Jonah Hill or Jonah what was
his name? Is Jonah Coleman. Yeah,

588
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:25.079
the guy who went to the kid
went to Washington. We lost him,

589
00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:30.280
and I think that's a big blow
right there. Who would we pick

590
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:37.559
up that would be able to resemble
what his performance? I don't know if

591
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:40.199
you you can't. I don't think
you can resemble his performance. But the

592
00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:45.920
kid from New Mexico who came stayed
and then left to South Carolina. Where

593
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:49.679
do you go? Mississippi? And
they came back, I think came back.

594
00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:52.719
So I think he's got a lot
of a lot of experience. Okay,

595
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:57.199
Well, Jonah Coleman, I thought
was awesome. I totally agree he

596
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:02.119
did a lot to balance that had
attack Jim. In fact, I think

597
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:07.639
maybe you and I agreed late into
the season October November that I thought he

598
00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:12.639
was kind of the m v P
because he was because he was so consistent,

599
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:16.800
so dependable, all that well,
and he was breaking those six seven

600
00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:22.159
eight yard runs off tlfle in it, you know, keeping the offense on

601
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:27.039
the field, and it was hard
to stop him very much. So yeah,

602
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:30.119
yeah, ok, thanks, ye, all right, thanks for calling

603
00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:32.960
Jim. That was a quick call. But yeah, yeah, no,

604
00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:37.039
I mean that's that's going to be
important you know, can they if they're

605
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:39.519
going to be able to run the
ball. Because as much as we talked

606
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:44.599
about the offense that Arizona you know
ran last year, and and and and

607
00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:49.880
all that, I mean, the
way they threw the ball around their offense

608
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:52.239
was what was pretty damn good.
Shouldn't you be expecting some more stuff as

609
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:58.480
progression happens? Speedy Luke. I
would like to think Speedy Luke is going

610
00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:00.440
to be a factor this year.
And I feel like he's gonna need to

611
00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:06.119
be a factor this year. Yeah, uh you know, I I just

612
00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:09.679
yeah, he's they got to find
ways to get him the ball, get

613
00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:13.960
him the all out in the open. He's got to have gotten stronger so

614
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:17.039
that he's not limited to you know, having to get the ball in space

615
00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:24.440
to be uh uh uh effective those
kinds of things. And he's got to

616
00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:28.280
hang on to the ball, so
so those kinds of things. Yeah,

617
00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:31.880
I think that that that's going to
be important. He's gonna he's gonna have

618
00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:35.559
to be, you know, more
of a more of a factor than than

619
00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:38.280
than just a kid that they give
back they give the ball out to,

620
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:40.760
you know, on the open or
whatever. He's got to be able to

621
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:45.360
run the ball inside and out.
Uh, because his speed is going to

622
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:47.480
be huge. But then they've got
they do have guys that you think,

623
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:53.159
you know, hopefully are going to
have some uh you know, some ability

624
00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:58.159
to run the ball. I mean, look, there's people who poo point,

625
00:44:58.199 --> 00:45:00.000
oh, well he went to New
Mexico, how good could he be?

626
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:01.559
Or the other kid he went to
San Jose, Stay, how good

627
00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:07.079
could he be? Well, you
know that levels off exactly exactly. You

628
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:10.480
know those guys, you know what
they have. They've got experience, They've

629
00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:15.119
played under the lights there, they've
been around a little while, right,

630
00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:20.320
they're not freshmen, So what's the
problem. It's like, it's like I

631
00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:23.159
get that when people say is he
Arizona good? Or is UCLA good?

632
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:28.159
When Sean was coming here, Sean
Elliot was coming here in the eighty six

633
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:31.800
eighty five years, were people saying
is he Arizona good? No? Okay,

634
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:36.519
they were happy to have him exactly
right, And guess what he was

635
00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:39.239
beyond are Arizona good? And he
was just a local kid, right right?

636
00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:46.280
And I remember I asked it was
a a kid. He was on

637
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:51.800
my interns at Sugar Skulls. And
actually, Zach he works here, right.

638
00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:59.519
He was the quarterback at CDO and
when when beat by Jon Robinson,

639
00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:01.719
you know, when he when he
had committed to Texas, I said,

640
00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:07.079
is he Texas good? And he
just nodded really slowly, Yeah, yeah,

641
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:09.960
he is. And you know they're
talking about you know, I saw

642
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:13.679
a thing the other day saying who's
going to have the who's going to have

643
00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:17.639
the best Uh, who's gonna have
the most impact? Who's what second year

644
00:46:17.719 --> 00:46:20.719
running back is going to have the
most impact? And he was kind of

645
00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:23.000
at the front of the line.
And he had a pretty good first year.

646
00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:29.199
Yeah. Yeah, and strong,
durable, depotable things. Yeah,

647
00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:30.679
all those things. No, it's
good to good to see for. Yeah.

648
00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:35.360
So you know, again, I
think those guys are going to be

649
00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:40.679
pretty good because I think that experience
matters. And when I say experience,

650
00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:45.400
I'm talking age. Right, They're
not eighteen years old, you know,

651
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:50.039
these guys are twenty twenty one years
old. You know, they're they're not

652
00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:52.320
They're not going to be an awe
of the aarson the locker room. They're

653
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:54.400
not gonna be an awe of anything. They can say. I can play

654
00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:59.119
here and I'm gonna and they're gonna
watch one of the things that I'm thinking

655
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:01.480
that's going to be a factor is
how comfortable are they in the new system?

656
00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:05.440
And then I realized it's going to
be a lot of this old system,

657
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:07.599
because I don't think he changed the
whole lot, changing a lot because

658
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:10.559
because you know, what don't break, don't fix what's not broken, right,

659
00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:14.079
And he'll kind of go to the
well a few you know what they

660
00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:15.880
did, Yes, and you have
two of the best guys in the country

661
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:20.800
with that Yes, the quarterback in
the wide receiver exactly. And and I

662
00:47:20.840 --> 00:47:24.400
and I think again, those two
guys, and those two guys the unquestioned

663
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:29.039
leaders of this team. Yeah,
right, nobody's nobody's doubting them, you

664
00:47:29.039 --> 00:47:31.480
know, because I remember, you
know, one of we're always going back

665
00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:36.159
to our history, right when I
think it was a couple of the players.

666
00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:38.039
But I think also Loot said it
about the the nineteen eighty eight team.

667
00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:40.559
He said, one of the one
of the one of the things that

668
00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:46.199
made that team so good was that
everybody understood who the best players were and

669
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:49.760
who the leaders of that team were. Right. And you know, when

670
00:47:49.800 --> 00:47:52.920
you talk about the Gumbies, right, the Harvey Mason and Judd Buschler and

671
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:58.400
and those guys you thought they understood
their role. Mattmuel Bach. They all

672
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:00.679
understood and so that's one of the
and that team was so together. Yeah,

673
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:06.079
was because that team everybody knew what
they were, you know, what

674
00:48:06.159 --> 00:48:09.840
their part was. And I feel
like this team might have that with those

675
00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:15.159
two guys who say, Okay,
those guys and you can throw Jacob Manu

676
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:19.159
in there. You know those guys
are we need to listen to these guys,

677
00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:22.400
right, And they've earned that.
They've earned that one by their performance,

678
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:27.320
but two by the fact that they
held this they committed to this team

679
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:30.280
when they could have gone elsewhere as
well. Yeah, you've covered teams.

680
00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:32.480
I've covered a lot of teams.
The best teams of those when you have

681
00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:37.519
the players who know their roles and
don't bitch about their playing time, and

682
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:40.280
it's it's a special time when that
happens. It doesn't happen all the time.

683
00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:44.119
Right, ninety seven they kind of, you know, just was a

684
00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:46.719
piecemeal thing and then they just got
win at the right time. Ninety eight

685
00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:51.360
was the same team and they got
beat at a bad time. Two thousand

686
00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:53.840
and one, that was year that
Bobby passed away. Loot was out.

687
00:48:54.440 --> 00:48:59.639
They're trying to find themselves. They
have the talent obviously got to the championships,

688
00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:02.800
but they had to find their way
after not still dead, and eventually

689
00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:07.440
they had to ross helped with that
Luke coming back. Uh, there was

690
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:10.360
a time or two when guys really
didn't know the roles because they thought they

691
00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:15.440
had deserved a better role. But
but no, I mean, when you

692
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:21.039
have Gilbert and you have Luke and
you have Laura Jeffers, you you know

693
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:23.679
what you're where you fit right,
and it's kind of getting where you fit

694
00:49:23.719 --> 00:49:28.320
in and stay there and don't screw
it up. Just don't mess it don't

695
00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:31.039
mess it up exactly. And and
that's that's the you know, that's the

696
00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:37.480
thing that that I think people seem
to well, it's it's sort of a

697
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:39.360
hidden piece of all of it.
No question. If you don't have the

698
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:44.599
chemistry and you have all the talent, what does it mean? Not a

699
00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:46.599
damn thing. And it's like what
we see the teams and people are getting

700
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:50.440
compiled. Good, oh, look
at the talent on our team. Well

701
00:49:50.519 --> 00:49:53.400
they don't get along. What's the
point, what's the point exactly? You

702
00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:59.760
know, we're talking about the Warriors
two three years with Draymond and Pool and

703
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:01.920
these fights that they have. Yeah, we've talked about that stuff all the

704
00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:05.480
time, that you can have the
best players, but if you're not together,

705
00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:07.880
if you're not all on the same
page forgetting well, I'll say this,

706
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:10.320
look at that couple, two good
looking people and they couldn't get up.

707
00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:14.679
What's the point with their I mean
two good people, of course not.

708
00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:16.679
I mean you have to know your
roles and happens to us all the

709
00:50:16.719 --> 00:50:22.079
time. Okay, yeah, but
you say, how does this work?

710
00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:23.599
No? No, you just got
to know who you are, know who

711
00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:29.760
your your your companion is or whatever
your teammates are, and just move just

712
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:31.840
just do it. Yeah, yeah, and then and and it's important.

713
00:50:31.880 --> 00:50:36.559
And you know, a locker room
has to be a place that people want

714
00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:38.559
to be. Right, and they're
dreading being in the locker room because they

715
00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:42.440
don't like this guy, they don't
like that guy. Well, that affects

716
00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:45.039
performance. I'm sorry. Well,
there's no other way to say that.

717
00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:47.320
We saw that, Uh, and
I'm gonna throw them off in the bush.

718
00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:52.199
We had the Salem was out there, Chris Rogers, Hassan Adams,

719
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:54.480
these guys and some of them didn't
like each other, Yeah, because they

720
00:50:54.519 --> 00:51:00.719
wanted the ball they wanted and Loot's
not that guy. I mean, I

721
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:04.440
like, I tease, I tease. Who held Sean Sean Elliott to sixteen

722
00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:07.360
seventeen points a year Lout? Lout
did because it was a team team,

723
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:10.119
right, unless you are Jason Terry
in that year that he needed to be

724
00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:13.800
the guy. Yeah, you're not
going to score twenty some points a game,

725
00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:17.320
No, because yeah not if you
have guys they help right, right,

726
00:51:17.639 --> 00:51:22.119
and and and you know, and
you know Lout for what he was

727
00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:25.480
doing, it was important to him
that that there not be that one guy,

728
00:51:25.719 --> 00:51:29.719
right, the one guy, because
of what he was trying to build

729
00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:32.840
as the group and those teams,
those the teams that were great in his

730
00:51:34.039 --> 00:51:37.000
in his his time, were the
teams who did that, right, Well,

731
00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:38.719
two thousand and one is exactly.
If you had Gilbert on your team,

732
00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:42.960
let him go away for forty.
But he's not gonna do it because

733
00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:45.880
he had Richard, he had he
had all these guys who could share the

734
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:47.760
ball and give him the ball when
he needed the ball. Yes, you

735
00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:53.360
know, yes, no hundred percent. So that to me, that's the

736
00:51:53.440 --> 00:51:58.519
big thing about this team. Is
if is if? Because look, you

737
00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:01.119
know Norfelfida, McMillan, all these
some of these guys, they're making a

738
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:06.239
lot of headlines, you know,
preseason All America teams and stuff like that.

739
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:09.519
You'd like to think you're hoping that
the other guys on the team are

740
00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:13.519
saying, I love this. You
know, I'm gonna help them get that

741
00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:16.159
because then it'll be my turn when
my turn comes up. Sure, And

742
00:52:16.199 --> 00:52:19.679
if they're doing that, if that's
the kind of team that they have,

743
00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:22.840
this team can be really well.
And this is the Sean This is the

744
00:52:22.840 --> 00:52:25.639
Sewan thing. And he was perfectly
right. If you get to the playoffs

745
00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:30.039
and you do this, it's a
team thing. You these guys may have

746
00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:31.519
gotten you there, but it's a
team thing. Everybody benefits when you do

747
00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:35.920
really well, everybody benefits. The
problem is you're eighteen, nineteen, twenty

748
00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:38.199
years old. You don't believe that
because you're looking at your statute and saying,

749
00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:42.119
I gotta get mine. Where's I
gotta get mine? And we saw

750
00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:46.599
that in twenty eighteen, yes,
when DeAndre and Trier and Alkins were thinking

751
00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:51.840
there's only one I gotta go.
I know, we gotta get out of

752
00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:55.159
here. But that packed off championship
tournament game came out with those guys.

753
00:52:55.320 --> 00:53:00.320
I watched it the other night,
and I was looking for that right me

754
00:53:00.400 --> 00:53:02.760
getting my my, you know,
and there were little hints of it,

755
00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:06.960
but that was the happy time.
Yeah, that's right that they were.

756
00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:08.760
They were winning and stuff like that, and and and and they were all

757
00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:12.000
feeling good. But you could see, you know, guys that you know,

758
00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:15.039
well, I gotta get mine and
then give you guys hope that God

759
00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:17.159
his teams team is really good.
They're gonna make a run four days later.

760
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:22.760
Good luck, all right, we
had a great week. We're out

761
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:25.280
of here for the week. We
won't be here tomorrow or Thursday or Friday,

762
00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:28.920
so be sure to come back on
Monday and we'll be here. Thanks,