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Demic with the chair Great Congressman brad
Winstrip, mainly the testimony of the head

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of the American Federation of Teachers,
Randy white Gartner, that had no relationship

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to reality and the rewriting history.
What me, I hear no evil,

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I speak no evil, and I
see no evil. What are you talking

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about? It's beautiful stuff to watch. Almost as bad as doctor Anthony Fauci,

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who now claims it really had nothing
to do with shutting down anything.

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Congressman brad Winstrip, the chair of
the subcommittee on Lockdown and the Pandemic,

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welcome again at the Bill Cunningham Show. And before we get into specifics,

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I have the transcripts here. Can
you give me the overview as the chair

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of the committee. What Randy white
Gardner, head of the Teachers Union,

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what she said, and it's vacation
from reality. Yeah, well, first

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of all, they're hearing it was
certainly the opportunity to set it stuff for

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what's called a transcribed interview. You're
a lawyer, you know what that is.

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So we will be having her back. But what we came with was

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very clear. We know it,
she knows. The chieman said that the

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American Federation of Teachers is a political
organization. They're not a medical organization,

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and I don't believe that they're for
the service of educating the America's children by

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and large in that part of the
organization. You know, the CDC opened

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the door to the American Federation of
Teachers, which was uncommon access. You

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know, they don't have medical guidance. Although Randy Weingarten said, yeah,

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we spoke to some physicians, she
couldn't name them, and she couldn't say

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what guidance they actually gave. But
all of their guidance and all of their

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communications that we found, especially between
amongst themselves and then with the CDC,

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they were always pushing foreclosure of schools, not opening of schools. Never were

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they saying what do we need to
do to get open? Actually, and

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I'll use their word, they said, we need a trigger, and this

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is on their internal doguments. We
need a trigger for schools to be closed,

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and we should use a community transmission
rates, not in school transmission rates.

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Well, they're markedly different. And
that's the thing. The community was

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far different. You were safer in
school than you were out in the community.

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But they never were saying, you
know, it must get the kids

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back in school, that education is
essential and we're essential to that. You

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know, you saw doctors and nurses
dealing with all the high risk conditions out

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there, but teachers and students were
at the lowest risk. And the teachers

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union came out and will we want
to be vaccinated first? Okay? Well,

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as a nation, we gave teachers
the opportunity to go to the front

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of the line, and then when
they got it, that wasn't good enough.

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And Bill, the real problem is
why so many schools were open.

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They were continuing to push for closure. You know, my kids at a

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Catholic school, they didn't miss a
day once the fall of twenty twenty came

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around. But the people who suffered
the most in this country were really the

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children, especially those of load and
moderate income. Because parents couldn't go to

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work, they had to stay home
with their kids. They didn't have access

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to other conditions that would let their
kids be taken care of. But they

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suffered academically, physically, and mentally. And all this why others were open.

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And we're also concerned. You know, where did the funds go and

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why did some of the funds go
to non COVID related things. Like new

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gymnasiums or curriculum raises certainly is arguably
and Ben probably who raises? But and

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the Democrats never looked at any of
this, never looked at any of this

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while they were in charge. But
here's the next question. Why did the

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CDC. You have a physician in
charge there, doctor Rolinsky? Why did

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she just accept the guidelines that they
put over? They put them in word

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for word without a discussion that we
can find of whether it was a good

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idea, was it based on science? Who were they protecting? And the

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next question is was this a direction
from the White House to the CDC.

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Now, well, one of the
best parts of your subcommittee was Congressman Miller

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Meeks did a great job from Iowa
yea. She said, quote, did

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your scientific experts present to you as
of June of twenty twenty, among one

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point eight million children in this age
group? You know how many died in

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that age group? And then Winegartner
said, quote, I don't have that

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number in my head. Miller Meeks
then answered her own questions saying, well,

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the number is zero. And you
know all help broke loose in March

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February March April, that is when
what we got is a cholera, is

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the bubonic plague? Is it flu? Is it a cold? As as

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big as it not? But certainly
in the summer of the summer of twenty

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we knew exactly what we dealt with, in which there was a limited number

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of people at risk. But the
teachers Union and close consult with the CDC

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and doctor Wilensky did everything in their
power to close schools down. But she

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testified differently, didn't she Yeah,
And doctor will and Randy Weinartner finally had

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to admit, but she had to
be pressed. She has doctor Willinski's direct

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number, and this co woman Letsko
said, oh, well, I'm on

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two committees that deal with the CDC
and I don't have her number. Maybe

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I can get that. She tried
to spin around it, and she knew

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that she couldn't because she was under
oath. So you can just see and

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look. You look at their numbers
of where they donate, who they donate

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to. As I pointed out,
I think six of the seven Democrats on

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the committee have received funds from the
Teachers' Union. Okay, they're a union,

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that's what they do, and they're
a political organization. But you got

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to admit it. And they had
no business giving guidelines to the CDC and

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just having them accepted without some medical
background backing behind it. And there clearly

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wasn't any you said in your opening
statement quote, the baseline question should have

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been schools need to be open?
Are we doing everything we can to make

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that happen? And you added to
the recommendation in February of twenty twenty one

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when Biden sees power the school reopening
guidance and the Biden administration kept nine of

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schools fully from reopening at that time. The recommendation's wednestrip name were use of

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community spread rates to determine reopening instead
of the rest of children and the teachers.

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That was a key difference, wasn't
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might as well just look at the
people that were most vulnerable, the people

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they had code morbidities that had nothing
to do with what was going on in

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the schools. And like I said, it's not like other schools weren't open.

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They were. But you know it, you know, it brings to

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the point where you see more people
going for school choice, they're going for

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homeschooling. There's a lot of reasons
for this, but certainly the private schools.

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You know, Bill, I was
with local heads of the NABACP a

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few years ago and I asked them
what they thought about school choices. Oh,

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we're against it. Then when I
asked them where their kids went to

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school, they both were in private
schools. Of course, you know,

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don't do as I say, but
don't do as I do. Do as

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I say. And when you talk
to congressmen, represent MCP, whatever it

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is, whatever group that says we
have to we have to hurt private schools

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in school choice, they themselves do
exactly the opposite of what their policies would

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seem to indicate. And it doesn't
stop. Quote. This is also from

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you what the hearing, it made
sense to consult with the CDC. It

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was only appropriate for the CDC to
confer with educators. It would have been

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reprehensible not to have done so.
So the consultation. Yes, talk to

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them, but at the end of
the day, the teachers unions are not

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medical facilities. What they are unions
that advocate for higher wages and better working

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conditions for their teacher. And that's
why they that's why they exist. You

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know, we had a hearing with
one of the leaders from the School Nurses

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Association and she and she was the
Democrat witness, and she basically said the

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schools should have been open and though
they were ready, they were ready to

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go and clearly not the case.
And this has got to come to reality

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for America, and I hope people
understand it because their kids were affected and

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there's no plan. Do you ever
see them come up with a plan to

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really get the kids caught up?
No? I mean basically what we did

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in those schools is you, as
sixth grade teachers to teach fourth graders.

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Well, that's that's impossible. That
is too much to make up. And

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I'm not sure how they're dealing with
it except for possibly just moving them along,

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which is even more dangerous social promotion. You and I I know you,

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it's your responsibility as chair of the
Select Committee on the coronavirus pandemic.

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But that is that it is obvious. We live in a little part of

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America called Cincinnati, and the Archdiocese
of Cincinnati schools had about have about thirty

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seven thousand students. CPS SINCI Public
Schools have thirty five thousand students. The

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thirty seven thousand were in school being
taught by teachers in the school. They

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lost nothing. The thirty five thousand
and CPS or anywhere from one to three

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years behind, And there's no attempt
to make sure that a third grader can

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read. I can't imagine being in
school in Chicago, Cleveland, Cincinnati,

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and Austin. I can't imagine being
in school. And how about Portland or

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Lost Angels, San Francisco. How
far those kids are behind and just naturally

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way behind, and then you take
them out of school for a year and

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a half to two years they can't
read. And how many kids the great

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majority of public school kids graduate in
Chicago that are functionally illiterate. And there's

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no attempt to say, we've got
to be open in additional six weeks in

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the summer. If you're a second
or third grader, you will get a

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reading guarantee if you go to Chicago
public schools. Here any talk from Randy

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or wine Gardener about that. And
the only way you get better is if

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you're willing to look at the mistakes
that you made and admit to them.

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But if your motives were political,
if your motives were personal rather than just

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not having the right data or something
like that, and then we have a

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huge problem. And you've got to
look back. And that's what this committee's

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trying to do, look back at
everything that was done. And it's reasonable

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for us in an oversight role to
question the motives behind decisions. And I

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think we're getting there. And for
people like Randy Weingarten and Anthony Fauci,

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the wagons are going to circle around
him. Because I saw a deposition with

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Anthony Fauci, because he's getting sued
by Louisiana, Missouri one hundred and seventy

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four times, he said he doesn't
remember when asked questions. Well, there's

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a lot of people around him that
do remember. And now as he's starting

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to remember, he's remembering things differently
than they actually happened. Well, he

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Fauci defied anyone to prove that he
closed down a single school or a single

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business. And then go to the
tape he told President Trump to quote,

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shut the country down on television countless
times to warn against the Red States opening

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their school too early. He went
on television to condemn people who wanted to

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open schools in the so called Red
States. And so thank god we have

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that. Secondly, you're a congressman, a doctor in addition of being a

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representative, and a retired soldier with
great distinction, many medals, and on

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the House committee that you serve intelligence. There's now a push by the Bide

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administration to have battery operated tanks.
I can only imagine in a battle with

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battery operated tanks and troop carriers and
Bradley fighting vehicles. What is the Biden

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administration now is talking about putting batteries
and tanks. Well, first of all,

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the first thing that comes to my
mind when I think of tanks battery

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operated, I think of the Russian
tanks that were just stranded on the side

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of the road. Why because they
didn't have gas, They didn't have energy.

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Our batteries, our electric vehicles rely
on China. We can't produce these

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vehicles without China contributing to the process
in the making of the battery. We

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don't do that. We no longer
have that type of technology. We've given

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up our minds. You know,
we have one rare Earth's mind and has

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zero capability to process rare earth minerals. So, in other words, we

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can mind them, we can't process
them. This is California's Mountain Pass and

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it's one tenth owned by a Chinese
investor, but it's across the board,

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and we are stuck on pharmaceuticals,
on energy, and if we're going to

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make this push, we need to
make sure that we can be a one

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hundred percent domestic and strong in our
capabilities if we're going to push something,

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especially for our military. I mean, I thinking greatly concerned during COVID when

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the reality came around it as I
served interacted. My protective equipment and my

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pharmaceuticals are battlefield medicines relied on China. How does that matter? How do

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we manage that if they decide to
take us down, they're not going to

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have to fire a shot. We're
in a position today where they can do

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so many things to just shut us
down. It's been estimated that if they

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stop producing the minerals and other products
of just making of generics, generic medicines,

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we're done in two months. We
have nothing, and what a great

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opportunity for sabotage. The FDA isn't
over the Chinese labs to make sure these

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medicines are okay, and there's been
multiple times where the medicines have been fifteen

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years ago, about two hundred and
fifty Americans died from tainted hepron that China

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produce, and yet they still go
on and they have no liability. But

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you know, you look at this
idea of electric vehicles and all the stuff

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going on right now in the effort
of green energy, and look, I'm

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for all of the above, and
there's been a lot of things that have

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happened. We passed a Clean Air
Act years ago and a great deal of

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progress has been made. And you
know, but I want to bring up

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something. You know, when you
go out in the sun, you put

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on sunblock because you don't want to
skin cancer. Yet at the same time,

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it's healthy for you to get some
vitamin D from the sun. And

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also, as a doctor, I
could prescribe a medication that might kill the

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virus in bacteria in you, but
if it kills you too, it really

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doesn't help you. And so it's
interesting. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

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has a forty year study that came
out with last year they said, well,

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we've cleaned up pollutions so well over
the Atlantic that there's actually more hurricanes

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and storms and warming here. Again. Yeah, over the last forty years

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over the Atlantic Ocean, we have
cleaned up the air so much that there

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are actually more hurricanes and storms because
we've heated the water, which creates the

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energy for those. In other words, Bill, we've cleaned it up so

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much that there's no particulate matter up
there anymore. That used to serve as

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a block. Now it's like a
magnifying glass. So it does. So

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it does create global one. And
in the Pacific. In the Pacific,

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hurricanes and storms have gone down where
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I've said, I've said this in
the committee. I said, you know,

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if you talk about science, you
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but let's really talk about all of
it. Sometimes we can overdo it and

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maybe make things worse. And you
know, there's just so many things in

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this arena and with energy that are
so important. You know. I remember

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being in Chicago for a Red Cub
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and they had a brown out and
it was so bad five hundred people died

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in their apartments. So you see
the importance of energy to keep you alive.

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Go through a hospital and look at
all the monitors and everything that's all

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relies on energy and their backup as
generators. So let's not kill ourselves by

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doing too much. I'm all for
clean air, clean water. So were

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you You remember when you couldn't see
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We've come a long way, but
sometimes you have to take a look and

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say, have we done too much? It's a religion. It's a religion,

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it's a belief. I potted up
this story reducing human caused air pollution

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a North American europe bring surprise,
result, more hurricanes because of the pollution

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caused by China. There's less hurricanes
in the Pacific. There's more because of

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what we've done. It's the law
of unintended consequences. And what Biden is

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doing is making China great again with
rare earth minerals and also solar panels only

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coming out of communist read China.
And also the thirty one million dollars or

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so that the Chinese, the Russians
and the Ukrainians put in the Biden bank

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accounts, which hopefully that'll metastasize.
But Congressman, we gotta go, brad

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Winstrip of Ohio, keep doing what
you're doing. We're not getting the truth.

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If we had a real attorney general, there would be perjury charges filed

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against Wein Gardner and against doctor Anthony
Fauci. But it's not going to happen

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now. But thank you for coming
on, and thank you for doing what

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you're doing. The mainstream meet largely
doesn't cover all this, but the fifteen

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to twenty percent that listen to those
of us that care about facts do.

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But Congress and brad Winstrip, doctor
and soldier, once again, thank you

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for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, and with your permission, will do

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it again. Thank you, doctor, Thank you doctor. Yes, sir,

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Congress and brad Winstrip lessen tenue with
more. Wow. The more you

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clean things up, guess what,
the more hurricanes. The less you clean

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things up, the less hurricanes.
Did you? Did you know that?

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the United States, going to talk
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more. But I note with interest
the passing of Mcdaia Elementary School Principal Chris

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Flanagan, and Judge Leslie Gizz has
written for The Inquirer a beautiful opinion of

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contribution as to what Chris Flanagan,
the principal, demand meant to the city

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of Madeira. And once again Judge
Leslie gives welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show.

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And Judge, first of all,
would you tell the American people the

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circumstances that caused you to write this
opinion for the Inquiry Will Lee, I

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have to talk to you in a
while. I'm sorry it's under these circumstances

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I had. It was hard.
Last week is a rough week. We

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woke up on Tuesday morning to alerts
that the school was closed, and of

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course it was a bit ominous the
message we got, and I immediately called

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over to my contacts in the police
department and said, we don't know.

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I think it's a power outage or
something like that. And then ten minutes

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later they called me back and said
that they said Chris Flannagan died, and

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you, I mean, I had
to sit down. I could not believe

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it. And so the whole school, it's slowly trickled out. The teachers

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were to report so they could be
told, and it's just been a very

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dark week for the people of Madeira, and especially the students and teachers at

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the elementary school. But I couldn't
but everybody kept talking about it on Facebook,

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and I couldn't bring myself to speak
about it because I would talk my

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sister and you know, my kids
obviously, But it was difficult, and

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so each day I kind of threw
some words on a piece of paper and

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by Thursday I had been able to
sort of compile something and was able to

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get the Inquiry to publish it.
I guess they published it on Thursday or

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Friday, and was just a you
know, a heart felt It was what

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everybody in our community feels about him, just sort of wrapped into a little

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essay. And it's a loss.
It's a really, not only because it's

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his age and because he aged his
children and the suddenness of it and his

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wife, but especially for our school
community because he was just something else.

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He was amazing. I knew Chris
for about fifteen years. Is his only

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son. Jack has been to our
house. I don't know fifty times.

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It's been twice in the past seven
days. I've been close to the family

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because my grandson, Cole Cunningham,
probably his best friend was Jack Flanagan growing

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up, so every time the family's
interacted together for sports, he slept over

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at our house repeatedly. It's a
shock because Chris Flanagan was but fifty years

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old. He was off for a
couple of weeks with a minor knee surgery,

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and something happened a week ago today. The call as him to die

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suddenly in the arms of his of
his children and his wife and their home,

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and I was called a couple hours
three or four hours later, and

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I've been there, and I went
to the get together last night across Roads

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and Penny, you saw her.
I saw Penny this morning. Yeah,

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Good Shepherd. I'm really sorry.
I didn't realize. Um, I didn't

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realize your connection to them. I
mean, it's amazing. You should have

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seen this place, the church yesterday. I swear there must have been four

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to five thousand people that went through
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It's a fifteen fifteen hundred seat church, Good Shepherd, and it was

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popped. I mean it was it
was stilled. And UM, I just

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uh, it's just amazing what an
impact he made on people, and not

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just his students, but his friends
and his um colleagues and his sam his

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family was all there. It's just
it's just heartbreaking. And um, you

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know, you're right. It's a
routine knee surgery and wants in a blue

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moon. Um, you know,
people get clotting from that and that,

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Um, you know it was I
asked somebody yesterday, I think it was

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a pulmonary embolism, and it's just
very quick and sudden and not expected and

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it's unfair, but it is what
what happened. You said, in your

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editorial, you said my father died
when he was slightly younger than Chris,

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and my siblings I were all about
the same age as as children, my

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mother around the same age as his
wife. My heart bleeds for the law.

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So you personally felt this along with
Oh killed me today because I just

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would. It's, um, it's
a pain that it goes away eventually,

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just gets numb. You know,
you don't react as much to it.

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I mean, and my dad hasn't
gone for thirty two thirty three years this

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summer, and um, you know, these kids, it's just it's not

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what's supposed to happen, not when
you're that young and you know you bury

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parents, but it's supposed to be
when you're older, when you're an adult.

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So I just I just hurt watching
them today. And they were so

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stoic, and so he would be
so proud of how well they handled themselves.

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And this is just one of those
things that's not supposed to happen.

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And then when I see it happen
and the kids it's three girls, one

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boy, just like us, all
the same ages, it just kills me

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even more. It just it's so
hard and then to know what a wonderful,

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amazing spectacler man their father was,
which they won't really get until they

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have time to sort of process the
grief, and then they'll realize. And

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it's really every time you go somewhere
and hear someone say, oh, your

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dad wasn't it, the feeling you
get is so joyous because you know,

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you realize what a legacy they left. Yeah, he left a hell of

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one. He did something he was
special because dressed like the principal day.

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He did something once a year in
which a ribbon was given out to the

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student at the elementary school who dressed
like the principle. He also won the

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top of the I mean remember that, and then he went up on the

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roof at one point. It's just
the way he treated every the final um

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during the final day they call it
field days, wherever the kids get to

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play games all day and it's outside, is usually the weather's good, and

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he would go His thing was he
would fill water balloons and go up on

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the top of the school. You
know, the school was one level and

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or two levels, but it wasn't. He would go up to the roof

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and he'd throw water balloons down at
the kids and they just screeched and loved

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it. I mean, they thought
that was just he was. I just

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wish everybody could see how he interacted
with those kids. And I am so

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blessed that my children were able to
go through that school with him as the

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principle. I mean, their teachers
were amazing that he was like the cherry

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on top, and it's just you
know, and they were with me today.

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They went yesterday and they went today, and they really feel it.

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They hurt because they loved him,
and they're not the only ones everybody,

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so all the kids are hurting.
Today was the day he was scheduled to

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come back to Madare Elementary May first. He was going to take off for

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two weeks, and instead the children
and their parents go to a funeral.

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I mean, I guess there's a
lesson. It's yeah. You know,

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when I have on Brian tomb I
have on a Catholic priest, I often

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say, tell me how how this
is fair. I got a friend of

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mine who has a son that has
a brain tumor. I know that when

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kids get sick and die. Chris
Flanagan would take special time with special needs

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children to get them involved in the
school, and they meet with their parents

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and do whatever. He was a
kind of principle that everyone wanted to be.

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And I never get an adequate response
to the question why would a good

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God allow such things like this to
occur? Because an elective knee surgery and

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all, within two weeks you have
a pulmonary embolism, which is a saddle

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embolism, which is one that takes
over the left and right artery coming out

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of the heart that feeds blood to
both lungs. It was nonrecoverable the way

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it happened, and you have to
ask God Almighty at some point, why

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allow this to happen. As a
judge, you deal with the worst of

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the worst, sometimes innocent little victims
and those that don't deserve to what happened

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to them. And I never get
an adequate answer as to why God almondy

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would permit such things to happen like
a lot like this embolism, and Chris

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Flannigan, I just don't know why
one would be permitted. I don't know

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it is. It's one of those
unexplainable things. And that same only the

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good young is truly real. And
um, you know, I've known some

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real sons of guns and they'll live
to be a hundred and then people like

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Chris or you know, die in
their prime and that it's um, it's

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just a hard one, especially when
there's no warning. I mean, at

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least with my father, he was
sick. We knew it was coming.

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It doesn't make it better, but
it certainly gave us some preparation. It's

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the you know, it's the hard
part is not not being prepared for it

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and not expecting it. And um, you know, they're going to need

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their community. They're they're certainly you
know, they have their family, but

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they're certainly going to need their community
when everybody has to go back to you

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know, real life. And that's
when the community really comes in handy.

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And gosh, I'd live in a
great one. I just I'm so fortunate,

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you say in this opinion piece.
The pain will eventually subside and the

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silver lining will appear. Their husband
and father forever touched the lives of an

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entire community community where they reside.
You going to say, for those who

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don't live in our Atmadere, a
small We have a small school district,

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second to nine. We have one
elementary, one middle school, one high

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school, and the children tend to
be together from start to finish, and

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it's a tight community. But my
gosh, I mean this is almost an

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insubs and Kenji does a great job
as the superintendent. He was wonderful.

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So I gotta tell you his brother
spoke first today and he was poignant,

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and I could not get over the
composure he had because I had none.

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I mean I just fell we all
did, everybody there. There wasn't a

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dry eye. And he was so
amazing, you know, just in the

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stories he told about his brother,
and then Kenjie spoke and he was amazing,

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and then his brother in law spoke
and he was It just really takes

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a touch to be able to do
that and maintain your composure through something like

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that, because they were very,
very close, and even you know,

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our superintendent is close with the principle. I mean, there's just not a

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lot of them. We have three
and the entire school district. Which is

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one of the reasons I wrote sort
of wrote this piece. Is two is

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to explain to people that I'm sure
people are reading the papers saying, why

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or why is everybody making a big
deal about this principle dying Because he was

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the principle there was one, you
know, and that's why I was trying

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to explain if you don't understand the
deer and don't know the size, and

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don't realize we have our own school
district, which is the best. I

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mean, it is phenomenal. It's
one of the best in the states.

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And it's because of our principles and
our teachers and the school board and the

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superintendent. And they aren't big.
They aren't they aren't expendable. You can't

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and we we're gonna, you know, it's gonna be hard to replace them,

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and be really really hard for those
who want to go to The quir

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website has the route of remembrance.
In fact, this morning at eight thirty,

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there were hundreds of cars who went
to all three schools because the kids

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in the middle school and the kids
in the high school also most of them

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came through the elementary when when Chris
Flanagan was there and he had an impact,

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the tears on the cheeks of the
teachers and the little girls holding signs

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we'd love you, mister Flanagan,
and I hope the family, Danielle,

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his lovely wife, and Jack and
Maggie and Emma and Molly eventually find peace.

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I told Danielle yesterday at Crossroads,
I said, may, May,

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may you find peace in this life
for the next when you're joined again with

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Chris. That was her man.
He'd loved Austin. He's from Vermont.

417
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There were green ribbons all over Madeira
and it was beautiful, wasn't it.

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It was neat. I drove the
boys over by the elementary school and we

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waited and watched, and then we
went up to them, and then we

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went up to the funeral and it
was just when I drove down Miami to

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go there and everybody was one in
the streets that could not contain myself.

422
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It was. It was emotional,
for sure, and we just have to

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carry on his speer. I mean, I don't know, Well, what

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do you say it there was seven
or eight year old who has the confetti

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ready when the principal comes back from
his minor nie surgery, and the next

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instead of doing that, the child
is in a funeral procession. I don't

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know. You just try to and
that's a hard one. I mean,

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my kids at least are a little
bit older. But it's um there there

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is no explanation, and that's what
you tell them. I wish I had

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an answer. Put these things sometimes
happen, and it's tragic and it's awful

431
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:48.559
for all of us. But you
know the good thing is they're in wonderful

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hands. These kids in the elementary
school, their teachers, I mean,

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they wanted to go back the next
day because they wanted to be able.

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They felt better being with the kids
than they did being away from them.

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And so they all went back the
very next day. And these children are

436
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in in amazing hands, they really
are, and they will be able to

437
00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:14.200
comfort them and um explain to them, and uh, you know, they'll

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be sad, and I'm sure they'll
be tears that they'll help them throw it.

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00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:20.920
They really will. Don't help each
other. Yesterday the card set a

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Crossroads and remembrance of Chris Flanagan.
May the road rise up to meet you.

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May the wind be always at your
back, May the sun shine warm

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upon your face, and the rains
fall softly upon your fields until we meet

443
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again. May God hold you in
the palm of his hand. And I

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love that. That's the Irish blessing, isn't it. Yes, Yes,

445
00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:47.920
I think it's called the Irish Blessing. I think I love that I saw

446
00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:52.160
that I have that. I kept
the card for me yesterday. It's um,

447
00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:55.359
this will be well, this will
be felt for a very very long

448
00:32:55.400 --> 00:33:02.240
time with us. This is this
is a tough and now I just wish

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I could express I mean, at
least I could do was to write an

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art, you know, to write
to kind of express to people. This

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person. But he had so many
facets. He was just an educator above

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all. But um, you know
he hearing stories today about how he was.

453
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Someone said one of the I think
it was his brother in law,

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said, I bet everyone in this
room thinks Chris was your best friend.

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And it was true. He had
a way of making everybody feel so special

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and his family and his enjoyment of
life. I mean, he truly lived

457
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:45.279
life the way it should be lived, with faith and with happiness and m

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00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:50.640
boy, if I can go out
that way, I'll be really it'll be

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a blessing that that I can live
my life like that. I wish every

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00:33:54.799 --> 00:34:00.359
educator. Yeah, I do too. He was special, all right,

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00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:06.559
Joe, sure what Joe Leslie gives. Thank you very much. It's good

462
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talking with you, Willie, thank
you, thank you. All right,

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bank Ramaswami, Welcome again to the
Bill Cunningham Show. I saw it live

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00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:15.480
about ten eleven days ago when you
and Don lemon teed it up on Race

476
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:21.159
Discrimination. Of course, your book
out is fabulous and me it's it's about

477
00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:25.760
It's called a Nation of Victims.
Identity politics, the death of merit,

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00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:30.760
and the path back to excellence.
But I tell the American people who didn't

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00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:35.360
see the debate about racial discrimination,
which is one of the themes in your

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00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:39.000
book as to why you and Don
Lemon crossed swords on it, Well,

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00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:43.000
I was trying to teach Don Lemon
from history that he wasn't aware of,

482
00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:46.400
Bill, which is that after the
Civil War, turns out, when black

483
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:52.159
Americans were supposedly granted their rights,
they didn't actually get to enjoy those rights

484
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:54.679
until they got their Second Amendment rights. And the point I was making is

485
00:35:55.000 --> 00:36:00.280
the Second Amendment is fundamental to securing
all of the other constitutional rights. Now

486
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:04.400
that Don Lemon, that made his
head explode because for him, civil rights

487
00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:07.599
are good, but Second Amendment is
bad. So how could I possibly mix

488
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:12.119
these things together? And when his
head exploded, he unraveled, so he

489
00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:15.960
started yelling at his own producers,
he cut off his co host. But

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00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:19.400
to me, the thing that he
said was I couldn't dare to make these

491
00:36:19.480 --> 00:36:23.079
arguments unless I was actually black.
And how dare yeah, you know,

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00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:27.000
what he told me is, whatever
ethnicity you are, how dare you explain

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00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:30.400
to me a black man what it
is to live in black skin, which

494
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:32.360
isn't even what I was talking about. I was talking about Civil War history,

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00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:37.159
which is factually true. And so
anyway, that incident, thankfully the

496
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:39.719
New York Times reported it was the
final straw that led to his firing.

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00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:43.840
And you know, I say,
I think they say life gives you lemons,

498
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:45.880
you make lemonade. I think that's
what we did that day and on

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00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:51.199
Meet the Press with Chuck Todd and
I've been around a little bit longer,

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00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:54.199
and you've been around the vake Rama
Swami. And if somebody would have told

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00:36:54.239 --> 00:37:00.320
me a few years back, that's
suddenly gender dysphoria that used to be a

502
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:04.119
known mental illness, that of some
child is seven, eight, nine,

503
00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:07.280
ten, twelve, fourteen, sixteen
years old and thinks that I'm like Bill

504
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:10.960
Cunningham as a female, I have
a male body, but I'm really a

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00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:16.119
female. That that person would be
subjected to some professional assistance, not genital

506
00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:22.199
mutilation or chemical castration, that that
child would get some help and down the

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00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:23.840
road, if I think you would
agree, if you're twenty five or thirty

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00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:28.599
or thirty five or forty years old
and you want to pay for some chemical

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00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:31.960
castration or mutilation of your generals and
you're an adult and you pay for it,

510
00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:36.400
have at it. It's a serious
mistake. Should not be encouraged.

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00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:42.440
Something's wrong, something's not quite right. But would you what would you do

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00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:46.320
right now with the status of America? And you got into an argument with

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00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:51.079
Chuck Todd about two X chromosomes.
You're a woman X and a Y means

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00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:54.800
you're a man, and that wasn't
accepted by NBC News. Explain that one

515
00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:59.199
to me. That's right. That
was this morning. I was in Washington,

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00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:01.159
DC before fly back to Ohio on
the set of Meet the Press,

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00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:06.880
and he said, well, there's
a lot of scientific evidence now emerging that

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00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:09.639
gender isn't as binary as you say
it is. I said, no,

519
00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:13.639
I actually, Chuck, it actually
is as binary as I say it is.

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00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:16.800
Two X chromosomes major woman X and
Y means you're a man. And

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00:38:16.840 --> 00:38:20.400
by the way, it is a
mental health condition. Is a mental health

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00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:24.119
disorder if you think that your sex
doesn't match your gender. But that doesn't

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00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:28.519
mean you disrespect that person, especially
if they're a kid. Means you help

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00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:31.239
them, help you to be compassionate. Kids go through tough times in their

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00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:35.000
lives and it's like, you know, Bill, as if this is a

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00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:37.920
sad story. But I actually met
two young women when I was in New

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00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:43.119
Hampshire a couple weeks ago, and
you know what. Both of them had

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00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:45.880
had double mass s tectomies, both
breasts cut off. One of them had

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00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:49.880
a hysterectomy, she had her uterus
removed. Now she will wishes she could

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00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:52.079
have children. She never will be
able to. They do chemical blockers,

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00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:57.679
puberty blockers. These young women will
never be the same. And yet they

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00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:01.320
regret the decisions that we adults.
I mean I was on in their lives.

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00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:06.280
I'm saying we as a society allowed
them to make and so I think

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00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:08.039
that's shameful. And so what I
would do, is us president, is

535
00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:12.719
pretty simple. I mean, this
is not controversial stuff. There isn't a

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00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:15.760
state in this Union that allows you
to get a tattooed by the age of

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00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:20.719
eighteen, because we don't want people
making change to their body that they later

538
00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:24.639
regret. No general mutilation or chemical
castration until the age of eighteen. Here,

539
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:29.239
that's basic stuff, and yet nobody's
saying it out loud. Where does

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00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:32.519
it come from in your view?
Because five years this wasn't a thing.

541
00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:37.320
I just googled how many genders are
there? If anyone wants to gender,

542
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:43.199
how many google how many genders are
you know what the answer is. I'm

543
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:46.400
looking at it one hundred and seven. I'm looking at this unbelievable. It's

544
00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:50.920
a throughs. I'm reading a through
z. I don't even know what these

545
00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:53.400
things are. Where does this come
from? Is it the Foreign Foundation,

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00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:59.400
MacArthur Foundation. It's a college universe
that needs something to anger people because we

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00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:01.760
have gay men, marriage, all
this other stuff that the courts have imposed

548
00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:07.039
upon us. Is it funding?
Why do we fight and argue about one

549
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:10.119
hundredth of one percent that have genderness
for you which ought to be treated.

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00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:15.280
Where does it come from? I'll
tell you where it's coming from. It's

551
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:20.280
coming from the same place as racial
wokeism. It's coming from the same place

552
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:24.079
as the climate religion. It's coming
from the same place the covidism comes from.

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00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:29.960
It's from a vacuum in our soul
actually, where we're so hungry for

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00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:35.039
purpose and meaning in this country right
now, at a time when the things

555
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:38.960
that used to fill that void,
from faith to patriotism to hard work to

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00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:45.559
family bill, these things have disappeared, that leaves a vacuum in its wake,

557
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:49.760
and that is when poison begins to
fill the void. It's like they

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00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:51.760
say, you know, if you
have a hole the size of God in

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00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:55.199
your heart and God does not fill
it, something else will instead. And

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00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:59.880
the same can be said of a
nation and a national identity we lack.

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00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:04.599
That's actually what's going on, and
so it's always transgenderism to climatism. It's

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going to be something else that fills
it unless we fill it with the real

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thing. And that's what I'm running
for president on is reviving American national identity

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00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:15.159
is one of those true identities that
can fill that void of purpose and meaning

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00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:21.559
in our country. For fat Ramaswami, according to polling, twenty five percent

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00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:30.599
of high school students today believe they
are LGBTQ plus twenty five percent, and

567
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:36.519
the real number biologically historically it's been
one percent, two percent gay, whatever

568
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:42.280
it might be. Why does twenty
five percent of kids now believe they're part

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00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:49.079
of the LGBTQ plus community. Why
it's because they're hungry for meaning, and

570
00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:52.400
we have we teach them that you
satisfy your hunger for meaning with this skin

571
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:55.719
deep genetic stuff. There's also good
evidence that every time a kid at a

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00:41:55.800 --> 00:41:59.760
school says, oh, I'm born
in the wrong body and I'm up there,

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00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:02.079
ja are different than my biological sex, ten other kids didn't say the

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00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:07.679
same thing. We've also made it
cool. We've made it a cultural victimhood

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00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:12.360
narrative, where once you claim your
place on the victimhood hierarchy, that becomes

576
00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:15.679
a currency. That becomes how you
get ahead, how you get into college,

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00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:20.079
how you tell your victimhood tails that
earn you followers on social media.

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So I think we've turned victimhood into
a currency. We've made it coveted,

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00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:25.519
and then that's why people are flocking
to it, because human beings respond to

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00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:30.400
incentives. So I think that we've
gone from being a nation centered on victimhood.

581
00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:32.840
I think we need to go back
to being a nation centered on excellence.

582
00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:37.800
I think excellence is unifying, Bill, and I think you understand this

583
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:42.960
better than most. That's what we're
missing is the unapologetic pursuit of excellence.

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00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:47.960
American national identity revived this idea that
you're an individual, not some member of

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00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:52.920
a plate tectonic plate of group identity, that you have a family, that

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00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:57.159
you're a citizen of a nation that
you believe in God. The values this

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00:42:57.360 --> 00:43:00.239
grounded this nation. That's so we
need to revive about public schools. I'm

588
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:05.559
looking at public schools their social promotion. You don't pass. When I was

589
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:07.880
in high school, if I didn't
pass the particular classes, whatever it might

590
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:12.480
be, you might fail, which
means you stay as a sophomore, or

591
00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:15.360
say as a sixth grader. That
doesn't happen today, via a Ramaswami,

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00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:20.920
you simply pass along. I've had
teachers tell me that I can't have a

593
00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:23.840
fourteen year old and the third grade. It doesn't work. We keep passing

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00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:29.480
them. There's no grades anymore.
The sat the Act has gone. This

595
00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:32.519
is part of the deal. And
when I listen to Chuck Todd, he

596
00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:39.639
advocated that children get their genitals mutilated
or chemically castrated to prevent them from committing

597
00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:45.519
suicide. So that means if you
don't agree with him on chemical castration or

598
00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:52.199
physical castration, you're advocating the killing
of children. Explain that one. Well,

599
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:55.679
they're using that as a form of
blackmail to get people to submit to

600
00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:59.519
this new call, and I refuse
to let them do it. And this

601
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:05.119
is why Bill, I go to
take great pains to go on set,

602
00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:09.239
to go in enemy curse, to
be able to make these arguments and win.

603
00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:13.599
I did that with Don Lemon,
I did it with Chuck Todd today

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00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:16.880
I will continue to do it because
if I'm asking the people of this country

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00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:22.079
to allow me to represent America across
the table from Shi Jinping, then I'm

606
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:24.360
not going to be scared of Don
Lemon or Chuck Todd, or CNN or

607
00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:29.960
NBC or college campuses where I travel
either. That's I think what it means

608
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:32.679
to actually have a spine. I'm
the first millennial ever to run for US

609
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:37.440
president as a Republican. I take
that responsibility seriously. We're doing this for

610
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the next generation, and that is
why I do what I'm doing, and

611
00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:45.079
that's what we're going to keep doing
for the rest of this campaign, speaking

612
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:46.360
truth, going to the other side, and yes, you said it,

613
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:52.239
We're gonna win and by thirty seconds
remaining. Lastly, you've made some comments

614
00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:57.760
about Donald Trump. The Trumpster has
said no debates. I'm not going to

615
00:44:57.880 --> 00:45:00.559
debate. I'm not going to get
on the platform, was vaveak Ramaswami.

616
00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:05.639
I'm not gonna do it. What
are your feelings about that. I mean,

617
00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:07.480
you know, I love what he
did for this country, but I'm

618
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:09.480
gonna call him spade when I see
it. I think he's scared facing off

619
00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:13.679
with me on the debate stage,
and I don't you know, I don't

620
00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:16.760
blame him. But at the same
time, the same way that Trump actually

621
00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:22.119
challenged the existing incumbents in twenty fifteen
and twenty sixteen, now he's sounded a

622
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:25.800
lot more like the establishment President Biden
says he wanted to debate people in his

623
00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:29.719
own party. I think Donald Trump
is better than that. So I think

624
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:31.159
that he's a little bit he's a
little bit nervous. That's all right.

625
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:34.679
We're gonna get him on that debate
stage. That's gonna be good for the

626
00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:37.159
country. It's gonna be good for
him, it's gonna be good for the

627
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Republican Party. That's what's gonna happen. I don't think he's a coward,

628
00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:43.599
although I do think he's a little
nervous, and that's why he said it.

629
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Author of Nation of Victims. What
is your website? If any for

630
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:52.880
the American people want to get involved? Twenty four vii Veek twenty twenty four

631
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dot com Check it out volunteer,
donated dollar or whatever it is is a

632
00:45:55.800 --> 00:46:00.079
grassroots movement and I appreciate the support. God bless America. Vivek Rama Swammy,

633
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:06.280
thank you very much, thank you. Let's continue line becomes available,

634
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you know the routine eight six six
six four seven seven three three seven.

635
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:15.679
I watched him with Chuck Todd and
I watched him with Don Lemon. Some

636
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:22.039
have said some of the commentary from
Chris Licht, who is, as you

637
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:27.400
know, the guy that runs CNN
supposedly cable News network, you know,

638
00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:34.119
CNN, cable News Network, that
that was a final straw that he called

639
00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:38.880
vivek Rama Swammy a liar, would
not allow him to speak. When Poppy

640
00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:42.800
Harlowe wanted to kind of jump in
there a little bit and make a few

641
00:46:42.840 --> 00:46:47.119
comments, Don Lemon shut her up. And uh, I don't know how

642
00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:52.599
you invite someone to come on your
show and not permit permit them to get

643
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:55.960
their message out, whatever that message
is. If you listen to me anytime

644
00:46:57.000 --> 00:47:04.039
for the past seventeen years on Sunday
nights and almost forty years on seven hundred

645
00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:07.599
WLW, what I try to do
with a guest, The guest means they

646
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:13.280
come into my house. And although
I get contempt a little bit contemptuous at

647
00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:16.079
times, I want each guest to
come on to have their voice be heard

648
00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:21.039
because I'm on a lot, and
I want you, as a beloved listener,

649
00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:24.440
to hear a different viewpoint which may
cause you to challenge your own thinking.

650
00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:30.119
I often will have someone on that
I disagree with. Vake Rama Swammy

651
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:34.000
is not one of them. And
the reason is it allows you to hear

652
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:37.960
a different viewpoint than my own.
And secondly, it allows you to test

653
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:43.000
your own set of principles against someone
else's, to re examine how you're thinking

654
00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:46.440
about a topic. Topic or two
is something out character? So on Meet

655
00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:54.440
the Press. When Chuck Todd said
to Vavake Rama Swammy, let's face it,

656
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:59.400
you have a choice. It's it's
a choice, and the choice is

657
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:07.639
to allow children to be either chemically
or surgically castrated, or suicide is committed.

658
00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:13.400
It's like what, Well, the
facts do not so indicate. According

659
00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:19.280
to the CDC, the largest percentage
a number of suicides are happening among white

660
00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:23.440
females who are teenagers, and in
fact there's less among those that are gender

661
00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:29.119
dysphoric, which is a mental condition. And I don't want any child under

662
00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:34.000
the age of eighteen to do anything
to themselves of a life ordering character without

663
00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:39.280
thoroughly thinking about the possibilities down the
road. So for fake Ramaswami, I'll

664
00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:46.119
meet the press. It was unbelievable
to hear a so called broadcaster more as

665
00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:54.440
say that to advocate children getting their
genitals mutilated or chemically castrated to prevent that

666
00:48:54.519 --> 00:49:00.199
from occurring is encouraging suicide. What
and whatever any one gets into debate with

667
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:06.360
someone on the radical left about gender
dysphoria, either agree with their position on

668
00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:12.079
the subject matter, or you want
to kill them. Those are the choices.

669
00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:16.599
For the last two hundred of two
hundred and five years, gender dysphoria

670
00:49:16.719 --> 00:49:22.960
has been recognized as a psychiatric condition. If you are a male or a

671
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:28.880
female and you think some other person
is lurking inside your body and that you're

672
00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:34.599
different than what biologically and scientifically you
are, that is a condition that one

673
00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:42.400
might need some assistance on. Gender
dysphoria for nine of our history has been

674
00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:47.800
known as a DSM five characterizes a
mental health disorder. If I'm somehow build

675
00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:55.440
Cunningham and I think I'm Barbara Cunningham
or Bethanny Cunningham or Beth Cunningham. There's

676
00:49:55.480 --> 00:50:00.679
some woman lurking inside my body.
I'd probably need some help, help me,

677
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:07.079
help me, help me, and
especially if I'm fourteen years old to

678
00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:12.960
have the medical establishment go after these
kids to make money as particularly despicable.

679
00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:19.840
All right, let's continue. Go
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Hello, Hello, quiet, and
I'm broadcasting nine segment. Please get

694
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us into the Stude Report. I
also have Officer Fredford two standing by about

695
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the memorial ride for Sonny Kim.
But first of all, get us into

696
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Then we're gonna go to Fred for
two. Willie the Red's five game win

701
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street came to an end yesterday,
losing to the A's tonight they had They're

702
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there south of Air there against the
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703
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and eight forty with the RNL carrier's
insight pitch more coming up here in a

704
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few minutes. Hold on right there, let's go to Fred for two.

705
00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:32.800
Real quickly. Officer Fred for twot, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.

706
00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:38.079
Badge number P three ninety six.
Served twenty seven and a half years

707
00:52:38.119 --> 00:52:44.840
as a police officer. He was
murdered in twenty fifteen, I think on

708
00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:50.840
June the nineteenth, and he of
course passed. And once again, please

709
00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:55.119
tell us about Sonny Kim and tell
us about the fallen officer Memorial ride coming

710
00:52:55.159 --> 00:53:00.840
on May the twentieth. Okay,
Willie, I've also got Duyne Earths on

711
00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:04.320
here. He's a deputy. We're
co founders. Are those regulators? Yeah,

712
00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:07.559
we're we're going to have the ride
on the twentieth of May. We

713
00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:14.360
normally have between four and six seven
hundred motorcycles there. Um, it's going

714
00:53:14.440 --> 00:53:16.119
to be the last year that we
do it. We're going out to the

715
00:53:16.119 --> 00:53:20.840
Gate of Heaven and back to the
city. Harley Davidson who was sponsoring it

716
00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:24.840
for us, Um, we've but
that's the same the same place we've always

717
00:53:24.840 --> 00:53:29.800
gone to, but the route is
different this year. We will we will

718
00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:32.519
have given away over one hundred thousand
dollars when this rides over with. And

719
00:53:32.639 --> 00:53:38.119
where does the money go, Officer, it goes to well, we Originally

720
00:53:38.119 --> 00:53:40.480
we're going to give it to the
Kim family, but they didn't want it,

721
00:53:40.559 --> 00:53:44.639
so that we give it to their
the people that they wanted us to

722
00:53:44.639 --> 00:53:47.280
give it to, like Lighthouse for
Children. Um, we give it to

723
00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:53.239
the Shield Ohio Cops, different different
organizations that take care of fallen officers.

724
00:53:54.000 --> 00:54:00.239
And how well did you know Officer
Sonny Kim? I didn't know him,

725
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:02.599
but I think my co founder did, Dwayne go ahead, Dyne, Dwyne,

726
00:54:02.599 --> 00:54:06.960
please give us an update on Sonny
Kim. As far as to go

727
00:54:07.159 --> 00:54:10.960
on, I knew Sonny as a
martial artist. I own a more shorts

728
00:54:10.960 --> 00:54:15.519
school and I met Sonny a few
times doing martial arts. Um. I

729
00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:20.519
actually never before he passed away.
He and I talked several times, but

730
00:54:20.599 --> 00:54:23.199
I never knew he was in law
enforcement. We never really discussed law enforcement,

731
00:54:23.239 --> 00:54:27.360
even though we're both in it.
Um we were. We just discussed

732
00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:30.000
martial arts all my dealings with him. He was a very very nice man

733
00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:42.119
that genuinely um nice and definitely a
very respectful person. And as far as

734
00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:45.840
this memory, thank god, I
believe this is the last police officer in

735
00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:51.119
Cincinnati who died in the line of
duty. I can't recall of another one.

736
00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:54.559
And this is an attempt really to
remember what he meant to the to

737
00:54:54.679 --> 00:54:58.880
the tri State, what he meant
to Cincinnati. Parts of I seventy one

738
00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:02.440
is named after him. And once
again, Police Officer Fred for two.

739
00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:07.280
For those listening May twentieth, this
coming work. Can I send individuals who

740
00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:10.440
care about such things as most of
us do, about how they can be

741
00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:15.159
involved, Well, they can come
to the ride on the twentieth townsin City

742
00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:19.920
Harley Davidson. Or they can go
to our website, which is regulators l

743
00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:23.320
EMC dot com and they can register
for the ride, or donate there or

744
00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:28.800
buy a T shirt or whatever they
want to do. But regulators l EMC

745
00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:32.039
dot com would be the best place
to go. Officer fredfort two, How

746
00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:37.360
much more time do you have to
serve in the thin blue line between democracy

747
00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:40.239
and anarchy? How much more time
do you have? Well, Willie,

748
00:55:40.320 --> 00:55:45.280
I did thirty years and retired in
June to fourteen as a sergeant at Miami

749
00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:49.559
Township. And I you know,
everybody asked me, did you are you

750
00:55:49.639 --> 00:55:52.480
retired? I say, well,
I'm retired, but mostly I survived and

751
00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:58.000
it's getting really bad out there.
Yeah, you have experience. I have

752
00:55:58.039 --> 00:56:01.599
a guest coming up tomorrow the next
day about the disrespect for law enforcement,

753
00:56:01.679 --> 00:56:07.039
disrespect for authority, and it is
getting worse. An officer, Dwayne Earnst,

754
00:56:07.679 --> 00:56:12.920
what agency are you with. I'm
with the Claremar kind of Shaff's office,

755
00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:17.840
and I'm still actively working. I've
got about two to four years depending

756
00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:22.519
on when I decided to retire,
before I can retire. But I think,

757
00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:28.320
I think the biggest thing in today's
law enforcement is just a lack of

758
00:56:28.360 --> 00:56:31.320
respect in general. It's not necessarily
towards just law enforcement. I mean,

759
00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:36.440
we definitely have it, but I
think it's a lack of respect for people.

760
00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:42.159
Now just breakdown of important elements.
I had this guest on a couple

761
00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:45.519
of weeks ago, that twenty five
years ago, nineteen ninety eight. The

762
00:56:45.559 --> 00:56:52.199
Wall Street Journal every twenty five years
does a poll, and in nineteen ninety

763
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:57.679
eight, seventy percent of Americans were
patriotic, They had good feelings about the

764
00:56:57.719 --> 00:57:01.400
country. Something like seventy percent also
wanted to get married at some point in

765
00:57:01.400 --> 00:57:06.320
their life. These are eighteen to
thirty five year olds. About eighty percent

766
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:10.360
wanted to have children. A large
chunk of those believed in God in one

767
00:57:10.400 --> 00:57:14.199
sense or another, by whatever first
name you want to call him, and

768
00:57:14.320 --> 00:57:19.159
another large sense wanted to donate time. And eighty percent respected law enforcement and

769
00:57:19.280 --> 00:57:23.440
eighty percent respected the military. Twenty
five years later, the polls conducted again

770
00:57:23.480 --> 00:57:29.239
in twenty twenty three, and every
one of those categories is upside down.

771
00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:32.119
It's just the opposite. And I
don't know how we turn it around,

772
00:57:32.119 --> 00:57:37.400
but I know we must turn it
around. It starts with the family unit,

773
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:39.119
Willie. Yeah, it starts,
you know, it starts. I

774
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:42.920
mean, I don't want to get
political, but you know it started in

775
00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:46.320
the White House with Obama I think
years ago, and you know it went

776
00:57:46.360 --> 00:57:51.639
downhill from there. We've noticed it
ever since, and the respect for law

777
00:57:51.719 --> 00:57:55.639
enforcement has just declined at an astronomical
rate. And I just hope that the

778
00:57:55.719 --> 00:58:00.119
PENSLA swings a back event. I
hope. I hope at some point we

779
00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:05.400
got a fun police. At some
point we have to keep qualified immunity.

780
00:58:05.880 --> 00:58:07.719
No. One tenth to one percent
of the cops are bad cops, but

781
00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:12.719
over ninety nine percent simply trying to
go home safely, don't know to her

782
00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:15.800
or kill anybody. What they want
to do is go home and serve the

783
00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:19.400
community. And right now we don't
pay the cops enough. Right now,

784
00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:22.239
they're too easy to sue. Right
now. It is uh, snitches get

785
00:58:22.280 --> 00:58:25.480
stitches and that kind of crap.
But anyway, I'm being too political.

786
00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:30.679
I hate to be political, you
know that. But once again, I

787
00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:35.440
think there's bad people one every absolutely, I mean even lawyers. Even lawyers

788
00:58:35.440 --> 00:58:38.239
can be absolute. Absolutely. I
don't know about lawyers. But once again,

789
00:58:38.280 --> 00:58:43.480
what's the website, Fred? For
two? What's the website? It's

790
00:58:43.559 --> 00:58:50.920
Regulators l E MC meaning the Law
Enforcement Motorcycle Club Regulators MC dot com.

791
00:58:51.039 --> 00:58:52.840
All right, both of you find
gentlemen, thank you for your service.

792
00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:55.960
God bless you, and God bless
the soul of Sonny Kim. Thank you

793
00:58:57.039 --> 00:59:01.119
very much. Thank you. Let's
continue segment. I'm sorry for the interruption.

794
00:59:01.159 --> 00:59:05.079
They'll probably will you gotta get Sonny
Kim in there. Man, great,

795
00:59:05.159 --> 00:59:08.880
great policeman. Remember the procession that
went by us, Yes, when

796
00:59:08.880 --> 00:59:15.159
we could see outside, thousands of
thousands of people there. And I visited

797
00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:17.760
as great a few times at Gaya
Heaven Cemetery to the right of the priest,

798
00:59:17.800 --> 00:59:22.239
and it's not visited as much now
as it used to be. But

799
00:59:22.320 --> 00:59:25.440
I will always remember him, having
never met him, but the kind of

800
00:59:25.519 --> 00:59:30.199
person we wanted to be a Cup
would have been, Sonny kim seg Please

801
00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:36.280
continue, Will David beat Goliath last
night twice? And the NHL Stanley Cup

802
00:59:36.280 --> 00:59:40.280
Playoffs Florida stunts Boston and overtime four
to three. The Bruins said, NHL

803
00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:45.320
records and wins at sixty five and
points at one hundred and thirty five,

804
00:59:45.360 --> 00:59:49.679
and the regular season they go home. Let me ask you this question segment.

805
00:59:49.880 --> 00:59:54.519
Yeah, the greatest team during the
regular season in NBA history was the

806
00:59:54.639 --> 01:00:00.480
twenty fifteen Golden State Warriors. Yes, they play in the Final US against

807
01:00:00.519 --> 01:00:06.199
a Cleveland Cavaliers team who won Cleveland. You might recall in twenty oh seven,

808
01:00:06.480 --> 01:00:09.599
the team with the greatest record in
the history of football the NFL was

809
01:00:09.639 --> 01:00:14.920
the New England Patriots. They played
in the Super Bowl the New York Giants

810
01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:20.519
who lost. Who won the Giant
to win. In twenty two or so,

811
01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:25.880
the Seattle Mariners had the best record
since nineteen oh three during the regular

812
01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:30.920
season, led by Lou Panella.
What happened to them? El So,

813
01:00:31.400 --> 01:00:35.920
if you have the best record in
football, you lose the best record in

814
01:00:36.000 --> 01:00:38.360
baseball? You lose. The best
record in basketball, you lose, and

815
01:00:38.400 --> 01:00:44.239
the best record in hockey. You're
you're hoping you're watching on TV. But

816
01:00:44.280 --> 01:00:50.559
how about the Seattle Kraken then up
ended the reigning Stanley Cup champion Colorado Avalanche

817
01:00:50.920 --> 01:00:55.360
and their series. We got a
crisis everywhere. And how about Steph Curry

818
01:00:55.519 --> 01:01:00.719
shot the ball yesterday like you did, fifty point fifty. Olden State will

819
01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:04.920
now take on the Lake Its who
do you like in that matchup? Well,

820
01:01:05.079 --> 01:01:07.119
the Warriors got to get their act
together on the road, and you

821
01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:12.840
know, Lebron James is like,
you know who knows. Let's see in

822
01:01:13.000 --> 01:01:17.400
golf, Willie, how about this? Tony Fenwe won the Mexico Opened at

823
01:01:17.400 --> 01:01:22.840
twenty four under by three shots over
John rom and Brandon Wu. There's on

824
01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:28.639
Twitter. There's video of him four
hours after the win. He's caddying for

825
01:01:28.719 --> 01:01:32.440
his kids on a par three golf
course, one bag on each arm.

826
01:01:32.480 --> 01:01:38.920
Tony Fenwe, Tony Feenews caddying for
his kids. Also horse racing coming up.

827
01:01:39.239 --> 01:01:44.440
The draw for Saturday's Kentucky Derby coming
up at two o'clock. The Mike

828
01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:50.760
Battaglia show there and then tickets are
on sale right now for the John Barrett

829
01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:55.000
Western and Southern twenty twenty three Open
sent for August at the Lender Tennis Center

830
01:01:55.000 --> 01:02:00.280
in Beautiful Mason. Get tickets at
wsopen dot com. And then, well,

831
01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:05.360
I talked to your friend David Young. Yes, county commissioner in Warren

832
01:02:05.360 --> 01:02:08.639
County. Yes, he's coming on
Wednesday to talk about what happened. You

833
01:02:08.719 --> 01:02:14.119
might recall a billionaire in South Carolina. Yes, spot the tournament. That's

834
01:02:14.159 --> 01:02:17.320
what I heard, and most were
saying it's going to South Carolina. But

835
01:02:17.519 --> 01:02:24.360
David Young commission has the insights scoop
as to why it is staying at King's

836
01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:30.400
Island. I think the lawmakers gave
him like twenty two million dollars to the

837
01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:36.320
for Mason Curry for the state,
and Warren County's putting some jack in.

838
01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:39.039
Of course, Warren County is rich. All they do is write checks.

839
01:02:39.320 --> 01:02:43.199
They don't have to borrow any money. Also, Willie, we say this

840
01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:45.800
is this guy's got to be our
citizen of the day in your favorite sport

841
01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:52.079
of golf. We say congratulations to
David Erdie at a Losantaville country club.

842
01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:59.800
David Erdie, he shot a sixty
one impossible nine under nine birdies nine parts,

843
01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:04.880
beat the record held by Byron Nelson. H The record was sixty two

844
01:03:04.920 --> 01:03:09.559
by Nelson in the nineteen forty one
Ohio Open final round. What eighty two

845
01:03:09.639 --> 01:03:15.639
year old record broken by David Erdie. He shot sixty one a Lisaneville artie

846
01:03:15.679 --> 01:03:22.719
birdie one, five, eight,
nine, eleven, thirteen, fourteen,

847
01:03:22.199 --> 01:03:30.199
sixteen and eighteen impossible twenty eight puts
And who's that guy again? His record

848
01:03:30.239 --> 01:03:36.000
he broke Byron Nelson had the sweetest
swing this side of Ben Ogan. Thirty

849
01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:38.320
one on the front, nine and
thirty on the back. That's getting it

850
01:03:38.360 --> 01:03:43.280
done right, dere So, I
play Lisaneville with Mike McCall. Try to

851
01:03:43.280 --> 01:03:46.880
get a hold of him because he's
our citizen of the day and is he

852
01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:50.960
a pro? You may want to
you may want to challenge him. If

853
01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:54.039
he gives me enough strokes, I'll
play him. I play Lisaneville with Dean

854
01:03:54.159 --> 01:04:00.960
Gregory, Wayne Carucci, Johnny Kraft
and Mike McCall. Doesn't get a better

855
01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:03.760
net on an afternoon about a match
up, Paul, So, David Erdie,

856
01:04:03.800 --> 01:04:06.239
you're a citizen of the day.
Where is he? Is he a

857
01:04:06.280 --> 01:04:09.079
pro? An amateur? What?
How do you know? I guess he

858
01:04:09.159 --> 01:04:12.320
just went out and plays golf.
He's a member there at Losantaville. There's

859
01:04:12.360 --> 01:04:14.639
a picture of him right there.
Let me see him. I'm showing it

860
01:04:14.679 --> 01:04:17.199
to you with with a scorecard.
Have me seeing Mike McConnell laid that on

861
01:04:17.360 --> 01:04:24.320
me this morning. Wow, he
looks like he's fit. David Erdie Lisanaville

862
01:04:24.360 --> 01:04:29.960
members shoots a sixty one Byron Nelson. You beat a record by Byron eighty

863
01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:33.599
two years ago, nineteen forty one. Now, I guess I don't know

864
01:04:33.679 --> 01:04:36.639
that I've been to I think I've
been to Losanavilva. Never played in there

865
01:04:36.639 --> 01:04:42.760
many time. But how how's that? How's that course? Fast greens?

866
01:04:42.840 --> 01:04:46.199
Every put is for your life?
Well maintained? Number one? The greens

867
01:04:46.519 --> 01:04:51.000
are slick ist snot on a doorknob. Well, I'm talking about he solved

868
01:04:51.039 --> 01:04:58.199
them because nine birdies, nine pars
e r d y erdie correct. He's

869
01:04:58.199 --> 01:05:01.760
our citizen of the day. It's
like Arkell, Well, your name's Rtie.

870
01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:06.440
He can play golf and he did
that day. Behind him, we

871
01:05:06.519 --> 01:05:15.280
got to ask him some questions.
Sixty one nine underdone and Tony Fiennale's canning

872
01:05:15.320 --> 01:05:18.039
for his children four hours after he
wins, what about a million and something

873
01:05:18.039 --> 01:05:21.360
dollars? I think two and a
half. Millo pretty good Mexican, a

874
01:05:21.360 --> 01:05:27.000
lot, a lot of pasos.
So Saga has added in sports, Yes,

875
01:05:27.239 --> 01:05:30.920
coming up after two o'clock today,
we have Attorney James Bogan. New

876
01:05:30.960 --> 01:05:36.199
information about the murder of Caitlin Markham
is coming out. Caitlin Markham. Of

877
01:05:36.199 --> 01:05:42.039
course, her fiance said he loved
her so much he wanted to kill her.

878
01:05:42.719 --> 01:05:45.320
Now that's real love, right,
don't love me, in fact,

879
01:05:45.360 --> 01:05:49.239
hate me if you don't mind.
But James Bogan has handled about fifty murder

880
01:05:49.239 --> 01:05:54.159
cases. It's gonna come up and
talk about this, so we'll see what

881
01:05:54.239 --> 01:05:58.079
happens. Segment has added in sports, how's the Bengals do? And he

882
01:05:58.119 --> 01:06:01.239
got a pretty good grade from Melk
everything that I saw, Willie that the

883
01:06:01.519 --> 01:06:06.679
Bengals got good grades on their draft. Um, mister, the boys are

884
01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:11.599
coming in next week. The I
think next Friday is a rookie mini camp.

885
01:06:12.119 --> 01:06:15.440
So I think the Bengals have got
some good players coming in. Unlike

886
01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:17.840
other deals, everything signed up,
you don't you don't hold out anymore.

887
01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:23.079
You just correct slots yourself in its
correct. What about now? The next

888
01:06:23.320 --> 01:06:28.400
the next shoe to drop. As
you know who number nine contract? I

889
01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:32.239
mean Carson Palmer. No, I'm
talking about JB. Who mister Burrow who

890
01:06:32.360 --> 01:06:35.840
get it done? Look a little
Don Jackson, get it done, Troy,

891
01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:40.920
get it done, Elizabeth. Talk
to the love Duke Tobin. Duke

892
01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:45.159
Tobin. But the old man Mark, you know who really really runs the

893
01:06:45.239 --> 01:06:50.480
contracts down there, the assassin.
Nope, Mark Dufner really yep. So

894
01:06:50.679 --> 01:06:57.719
Mike Brown talks the Duffner. Correct, But Mike Brown is an assassin when

895
01:06:57.719 --> 01:07:00.679
it comes to contracts. He's he's
gonna get it done. And you know,

896
01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:02.800
Hope, Joe, I mean,
sign all these guys up, and

897
01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:08.039
let's go take a look at the
contract. Lamar Jackson has add a mill

898
01:07:08.159 --> 01:07:12.079
or two. Get her done,
correct, sign a five year deal,

899
01:07:12.239 --> 01:07:15.920
five year deal and keep back you
then maybe if you're good and five more

900
01:07:15.039 --> 01:07:18.880
years to ching, go back to
the pay window and get a deal.

901
01:07:19.000 --> 01:07:25.599
Deal. But get the lovely Elizabeth
involved, and I think the deal deal.

902
01:07:25.719 --> 01:07:30.480
But talk to the assassin. I'm
sure he beats. They're talking right

903
01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:32.320
now, Willie. I think they
get another wouldn't you like to be like

904
01:07:32.400 --> 01:07:36.400
five minutes or ten minutes that those
talks. How much money did h Lamar

905
01:07:36.519 --> 01:07:41.639
Jackson get to sign his name?
Wasn't like one hundred million dollars. But

906
01:07:41.719 --> 01:07:45.119
if he's still talking to h Campe
signed the deal in Florida, do you

907
01:07:45.119 --> 01:07:48.239
think he bought Think he brought his
own pen. I'd used me a bick

908
01:07:49.840 --> 01:07:55.360
and use think a sponsor then in
a sponsor Yeah, clients segment. It's

909
01:07:55.360 --> 01:07:58.400
at it in sports, yes,
sir, give me out of stute report

910
01:07:58.840 --> 01:08:02.519
Willie at Utter of the Red Legs
in Beautiful San Diego tonight in Elite and

911
01:08:02.960 --> 01:08:08.280
go Cyclones in Game six of their
series tomorrow night. So the messages don't

912
01:08:08.320 --> 01:08:13.480
have the best record in history in
your sport during the regular season, that's

913
01:08:13.519 --> 01:08:15.800
what the Reds are shooting for.
Talking to the Bruins right talk today,

914
01:08:16.039 --> 01:08:21.920
unbelievable, and he talked to the
Patriots Seattle talk to Golden State, the

915
01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:27.479
Golden State team that Lebron beat I
lost like five times today or something like

916
01:08:27.560 --> 01:08:30.239
that. I mean, it was
unbelievable. Seventy three and nine, is

917
01:08:30.279 --> 01:08:31.920
that correct? I had to be. It had to be. It was

918
01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:35.920
incredible. And then they were up
three one in the finals. That's what

919
01:08:36.319 --> 01:08:41.479
Boston was and against Florida. How
do you lose to the barn to row

920
01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:45.720
to the to the greatest team that's
been down the pike in years? And

921
01:08:45.800 --> 01:08:49.079
then and then the defending champs are
out. Don't have the same night,

922
01:08:49.279 --> 01:08:55.079
don't have the best record, beat
bad maybe the maybe the Seattle Cracking that's

923
01:08:55.159 --> 01:09:00.640
an expansion team from a few years
ago. Beat him impossible segment, Get

924
01:09:00.640 --> 01:09:03.439
me out of the students report Attorney
James Bogan coming up about Caitlin Markham,

925
01:09:03.840 --> 01:09:09.039
William Honor at the Red Legs and
Padres tonight. We leave you with the

926
01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:15.560
immortal words of the student report.
Ringy dingy and here I come. It's

927
01:09:15.600 --> 01:09:20.520
the creeper, ringy dinghy, here
I come. Okay, what's out about?

928
01:09:23.359 --> 01:09:26.039
I don't know. I don't know. Let's continue and never stop.

929
01:09:26.119 --> 01:09:30.640
We simply continue. Bill Cunningham,
the Great American at your home at the

930
01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:32.279
Red Legs playing tonight in San Diego, and they need to win at least

931
01:09:32.319 --> 01:09:39.800
one game tonight beginning tonight tomorrow and
then on Wednesday early on news radio seven

932
01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:45.720
hundred w of somewhere in San Diego. And they won two out of three

933
01:09:45.720 --> 01:09:48.640
against Oakland. By the way,
Oakland stinks, but nonetheless of the reds

934
01:09:48.640 --> 01:09:53.439
are arising. Plus later on we're
going to have reports from Rocky Boyman on

935
01:09:53.479 --> 01:09:57.000
the Bengal Draft, etc. But
one thing we continue to follow is about

936
01:09:57.000 --> 01:10:00.560
twelve years ago, Caitlyn Markham was
murdered and it appeared that her so called

937
01:10:00.640 --> 01:10:04.920
fiance, John Carter, may be
the interested party who committed the act.

938
01:10:05.399 --> 01:10:10.439
But James Bogan is a criminal defense
attorney and the last time he was on

939
01:10:10.560 --> 01:10:14.920
a few weeks ago, he said
that possibly there's more evidence than we know

940
01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:18.880
about, including the poetry the Prose
of John Carter, in which he fantasized

941
01:10:18.920 --> 01:10:23.840
about killing his fiance. But of
course James Bogan said, I bet the

942
01:10:23.880 --> 01:10:27.520
search warrant to get more information has
some pretty good stuff in it. Joining

943
01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:30.960
you and I now is that same
James Bogan? James Bogan, welcome again

944
01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:33.159
to the Bill Cunningham Show. And
James, what's in the search warrant that

945
01:10:33.279 --> 01:10:39.600
may be indicative of guilt or perhaps
indications of innocence. Well, here's the

946
01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:44.279
first indication that goes in the guilt
column. As you might recall, her

947
01:10:44.359 --> 01:10:48.600
body was found wrapped in a dark
colored sheeting material that's often used for landscaping

948
01:10:49.119 --> 01:10:54.680
and a role of this material was
found during the search. Now that's not

949
01:10:54.800 --> 01:10:58.239
completely this positive of guilt on its
own. It's something you buy in bulk.

950
01:10:58.279 --> 01:11:00.439
Can you keep a roll of it
when you buy it? For example,

951
01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:03.680
that night that the news broke,
I was with a colleague at the

952
01:11:03.760 --> 01:11:06.000
Jimmy. He said, Hey,
I have that stuff. That doesn't mean

953
01:11:06.079 --> 01:11:10.239
I'm guilty of murder. But at
the same time, it's one piece of

954
01:11:10.279 --> 01:11:14.279
the puzzle, and another piece of
the puzzle. Bill is that In the

955
01:11:14.439 --> 01:11:19.720
two days after Kaitlin Markham disappeared,
in the police interview John Carter, they

956
01:11:20.800 --> 01:11:26.199
noticed three vertical scratch marks on the
left side of his neck. At the

957
01:11:26.319 --> 01:11:29.279
time, he said it was from
an electric razor, but then he later

958
01:11:29.479 --> 01:11:32.920
said he didn't remember where he got
them from. And just on a personal

959
01:11:33.039 --> 01:11:36.560
note there, I've had an electric
razor. I'm kind of hard pressed to

960
01:11:36.640 --> 01:11:42.760
see how that could hold any water. But to say anything more, I

961
01:11:42.800 --> 01:11:45.399
would need to see a picture of
the scratches and see the razor. And

962
01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:50.680
friends who were with Carter and Markham
on the night of the disappearance before she

963
01:11:50.800 --> 01:11:57.039
disappeared, said he didn't they didn't
notice any scratches on his neck. Now

964
01:11:57.840 --> 01:12:01.800
it's one other thing. There's a
mention of Hard's behavior in the days after

965
01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:08.159
Kaitlin Markham disappeared, where he repeatedly
would refer to her in the past tense

966
01:12:09.479 --> 01:12:13.800
and yeah, that's kind of odd, and instead of saying I hope we

967
01:12:13.960 --> 01:12:16.479
find her, I mean, I
don't know exactly what's said, but god,

968
01:12:16.600 --> 01:12:19.000
she was a great fiance. If
he has had stuff like that,

969
01:12:20.199 --> 01:12:27.199
but yeah, and then well more
than he might have deserved. But he

970
01:12:27.319 --> 01:12:31.439
also made inconsistent statements over the years
to the police concerning the last time he

971
01:12:31.479 --> 01:12:35.720
saw Kaitlin Markham and what he did
in the hours after. But there's also

972
01:12:35.840 --> 01:12:41.359
some eyewitness testimony mentioned in there,
because it turns out the night that she

973
01:12:41.520 --> 01:12:45.880
disappeared, there are two fifteen year
old boys sneaking out after they were at

974
01:12:45.920 --> 01:12:48.880
that Sacred Heart festival up the road. This was about two in the morning.

975
01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:55.279
They sneaked out and they described seeing
two vehicles, a red Ford Focus

976
01:12:55.399 --> 01:12:59.119
that turned out to be registered to
John Carter matches the records and his own

977
01:12:59.119 --> 01:13:04.359
admission, and a blue Saturn driving
from the direction of Caitlin Markham's home with

978
01:13:04.479 --> 01:13:10.600
their lights off to the home of
John Carter's mother where he lived, and

979
01:13:11.239 --> 01:13:15.000
the red fort focus goes in the
garage. It's in there, as said

980
01:13:15.039 --> 01:13:18.079
in the warrant from five to fifteen
minutes, then emerges and then they both

981
01:13:18.239 --> 01:13:24.640
drive back in the direction of Caitlin
Markham's home with their lights off. And

982
01:13:25.520 --> 01:13:30.840
there were also some other things that
add up in the column of doesn't help

983
01:13:30.920 --> 01:13:38.000
the defense. The body was found
basically on the route from John Carter's mother's

984
01:13:38.079 --> 01:13:43.840
home in Fairfield to his father's house
in Indiana. And then finally, the

985
01:13:43.920 --> 01:13:47.359
other thing I thought was significant is
that Caitlin Markham's friends had told police that

986
01:13:48.279 --> 01:13:53.880
she had told them she was unhappy
with her relationship with John Carter, that

987
01:13:54.279 --> 01:14:00.920
he was concerned about his drug use
and him watching pornography, and uncomfortable with

988
01:14:00.319 --> 01:14:05.239
some of the sexual activity he wanted
to do with her. And the friend

989
01:14:05.279 --> 01:14:14.479
also said that Carter was jealous and
possessive, and others reported that Markham had

990
01:14:14.520 --> 01:14:17.600
said that she felt trapped and wasn't
attracted to him anymore. James Bogan,

991
01:14:17.640 --> 01:14:23.880
as far as there's all kinds of
different sheathing plastic. Some is used for

992
01:14:24.119 --> 01:14:27.000
landscaping, some might be on a
roof, some might be in the package.

993
01:14:27.079 --> 01:14:30.920
Something are you saying the search warrant
when they seized the sheathing from John

994
01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:36.239
Carter's possession was at the same gauge, the same caliber, the same color,

995
01:14:36.600 --> 01:14:41.479
the same manufacturer found at the scene
where the remains of the body were

996
01:14:41.520 --> 01:14:46.079
located. They said it was similar
because they said black or dark colored,

997
01:14:46.600 --> 01:14:50.640
because that sheathing material that they found
with the body, obviously that had been

998
01:14:50.680 --> 01:14:55.880
in the ground for a while,
right, And basically they were looking for

999
01:14:56.039 --> 01:14:59.880
something that at least similar. I
don't think they were looking for it as

1000
01:15:00.079 --> 01:15:03.560
like a DNA smoking gun, but
more is a piece of the puzzle because

1001
01:15:03.760 --> 01:15:08.359
it had been outside for a long
time, from the time it was placed

1002
01:15:08.399 --> 01:15:11.199
there to till the time it was
located. And I find the scratches on

1003
01:15:11.239 --> 01:15:15.199
the neck illustrative. For many years, I use an electric razor. Now

1004
01:15:15.520 --> 01:15:19.279
now I use razors that are typically
a straight edge razors. It is damn

1005
01:15:19.359 --> 01:15:26.680
near impossible with an electric razor to
leave three vertical marks on your neck.

1006
01:15:26.840 --> 01:15:29.920
Is that fair to say? It's
difficult, but possible. That did.

1007
01:15:30.800 --> 01:15:34.319
That's been my experience, Bill,
And also for those listening now, how

1008
01:15:34.399 --> 01:15:43.760
many fiance's males that write prose and
poetry about the killing of his fiance.

1009
01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:49.359
Explain that to the American people,
that's not something a normal person writes.

1010
01:15:49.399 --> 01:15:56.359
In my opinion, no mildly.
I mean, how many people sit there

1011
01:15:56.399 --> 01:15:59.960
and say, how can I kill
you? You can't? You're right about

1012
01:16:00.199 --> 01:16:03.199
what? Nothing? And deep down
I love her. You ought to kill

1013
01:16:03.279 --> 01:16:08.359
her, but I love her.
She must die, And then talking about

1014
01:16:08.520 --> 01:16:10.800
oh no, what have I done? What do I do? I'll bury

1015
01:16:10.880 --> 01:16:15.600
the body, and then talking saying
stuff like I slipped your wrist as a

1016
01:16:15.720 --> 01:16:18.000
key to your heart, which was
written on a door. And one thing

1017
01:16:18.079 --> 01:16:23.840
that was interesting was that the door
from the basement bedroom was one of the

1018
01:16:23.920 --> 01:16:28.760
items seized. So he wrote on
a door that this is the loving fiance.

1019
01:16:28.960 --> 01:16:30.600
They're both at this point. I
think she's eighteen or nineteen. He's

1020
01:16:30.640 --> 01:16:35.079
in his early twenties. Thirteen years
ago. Well, what did he imagine

1021
01:16:35.159 --> 01:16:40.720
writing on a door the following What
did he write on the door? I

1022
01:16:40.880 --> 01:16:45.680
slit your wrist with a key to
your heart And there were cut marks on

1023
01:16:45.720 --> 01:16:51.479
the wrists. Yeah, well he
finally found the bones. Also, there's

1024
01:16:51.520 --> 01:16:58.359
some evidence that he took three polygraph
examinations into getting deceptive responses. Of course,

1025
01:16:58.479 --> 01:17:01.439
explain why that is unusual, and
you can't make it and you can't

1026
01:17:01.560 --> 01:17:05.760
require a defendant do I take a
polygraph? But seemingly with the place,

1027
01:17:05.800 --> 01:17:10.800
he did explain why one would be
taken. Have you ordered Have you ever

1028
01:17:11.000 --> 01:17:14.600
ordered one taken for a client of
yours? You've handled dozens of murder cases.

1029
01:17:14.880 --> 01:17:20.479
How unusual is it to take a
polygraph and then fail it? It's

1030
01:17:20.560 --> 01:17:24.760
pre unusual if you're not guilty.
I mean, the one time I did

1031
01:17:24.840 --> 01:17:28.279
do a polygraph with a client,
it was with a child rate case,

1032
01:17:28.479 --> 01:17:32.479
and yet didn't help us. But
at the same time, they're not admissible

1033
01:17:32.520 --> 01:17:36.119
in court, so I'll be honest, I didn't really give those much thought.

1034
01:17:36.159 --> 01:17:41.000
They're good as an investigative tool for
problem cause, kind of like a

1035
01:17:41.159 --> 01:17:45.600
portable breath test in a DUI case. That's not admissible in court, but

1036
01:17:45.720 --> 01:17:49.279
it can be a good in the
field investigative tool. That's where where I

1037
01:17:49.359 --> 01:17:54.319
put polygraphs. It's just one of
those things that makes the officers go.

1038
01:17:56.479 --> 01:18:00.399
He's scheduled to stand trial in June
of twenty twenty four, but he also

1039
01:18:00.479 --> 01:18:04.039
posted bond. How unusual is it
for a criminal defendant, with all this

1040
01:18:04.199 --> 01:18:09.960
evidence around him to have a one
million dollar bond that he post. Isn't

1041
01:18:10.000 --> 01:18:14.880
that somewhat unusual? He's out free
right now. Yeah, that's very unusual.

1042
01:18:14.920 --> 01:18:19.960
In my experience. It's extremely rare
to see somebody who's under indictment for

1043
01:18:20.119 --> 01:18:24.920
murder out on jail for bond.
It looks to me like his family went

1044
01:18:24.960 --> 01:18:29.520
to a bondsman. Now I'm not
sure what the family's financial situation is,

1045
01:18:29.600 --> 01:18:32.680
but when you put up the right
collateral to the bondsman, that gives them

1046
01:18:32.720 --> 01:18:36.479
what they need. Basically that adds
up to one hundred thousand dollars or so.

1047
01:18:38.119 --> 01:18:43.439
Then he's able to do his part
on his end to get the bonding

1048
01:18:43.520 --> 01:18:47.279
company to back it. And of
course, if John Carter jumps bail,

1049
01:18:47.439 --> 01:18:53.199
then the bail bondsman he's on the
hook. And what it is the bondsman

1050
01:18:53.239 --> 01:18:57.119
wal charge one hundred thousand dollars is
a fee to take the risk. And

1051
01:18:57.279 --> 01:19:00.840
then the bondsman's got to be certain
and at least in his mind if Carter

1052
01:19:01.520 --> 01:19:05.399
f scounds that he can has come
up with a million dollars to pay into

1053
01:19:05.399 --> 01:19:10.319
the court. And so that whether
it's Bob Shropshire or someone else, the

1054
01:19:10.439 --> 01:19:13.439
hundred thousand dollars up front is the
fee puts out more or less in his

1055
01:19:13.560 --> 01:19:15.880
pocket, and then he keeps an
eye on the guy, and if he

1056
01:19:15.960 --> 01:19:18.359
does skip, he's got to come
up with the other million. But then

1057
01:19:18.439 --> 01:19:24.359
the person, the family of John
Carter has got to make Shropshire or whatever,

1058
01:19:24.439 --> 01:19:27.319
whoever it is, putting up the
bondsman that they got a million dollars

1059
01:19:27.600 --> 01:19:30.039
to reimburse. But if you don't
reimburse, the bondsman's on the hook for

1060
01:19:30.119 --> 01:19:33.199
the million, but one hundred thousand
dollars the fee. That means you got

1061
01:19:33.279 --> 01:19:36.119
to come up with nine hundred thousand
dollars more. And they keep an eye

1062
01:19:36.159 --> 01:19:40.800
on him, which is why the
dog. The dog was located in a

1063
01:19:41.000 --> 01:19:45.119
y. He always is a bondsman, and in that case you weren't looking

1064
01:19:45.199 --> 01:19:46.960
for people. If you could produce
him, you get your money back.

1065
01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:50.199
If not, whoever, the bondsman
has got to pay a million dollars.

1066
01:19:50.479 --> 01:19:55.600
And the judge easily could have said
two million or three million, and that

1067
01:19:55.840 --> 01:20:00.439
likely would not have been overturned on
appeal anyway. So the judge just kind

1068
01:20:00.479 --> 01:20:03.279
of probably said a million dollars,
knowing that John Carter couldn't make the bond

1069
01:20:03.359 --> 01:20:09.640
to get out Unfortunately he had family
members that could could collateralize. That is

1070
01:20:09.680 --> 01:20:13.640
that more or less what we're talking
about what I just went over, Yeah,

1071
01:20:13.760 --> 01:20:15.720
that is. I mean, in
my experience, when a judge sets

1072
01:20:15.760 --> 01:20:21.800
a million dollars bond, they're typically
not anticipating the person making the bond.

1073
01:20:23.399 --> 01:20:26.800
But at the same time, though
the judge, he can't just raise the

1074
01:20:26.880 --> 01:20:30.640
bond just because he feels the kid. At this point, John Carter would

1075
01:20:30.680 --> 01:20:33.119
have to buy late the condition the
bond in some way for him to have

1076
01:20:33.319 --> 01:20:38.319
a legal reason to jack up his
bond. In fact, I'm told someone

1077
01:20:38.359 --> 01:20:42.960
in the clerk's office called the judge's
office and said a bond's being posted for

1078
01:20:43.079 --> 01:20:48.319
John Carter. And the judge said, what a million dollars? And legally

1079
01:20:48.479 --> 01:20:51.279
you can't just jack it up for
no reason. You have to have a

1080
01:20:51.439 --> 01:20:56.119
failure the defended to do something.
But it is shocking. I can't you

1081
01:20:56.159 --> 01:20:59.720
could count on one hand the number
of people charged with murder, especially this

1082
01:21:00.039 --> 01:21:03.760
character who has dementimous assets. His
family must add a bunch that actually could

1083
01:21:03.800 --> 01:21:09.199
post a million dollars? Have you
on all the cases you've had and the

1084
01:21:09.359 --> 01:21:13.279
hundreds of cases that I've had,
I've not had one client post a million

1085
01:21:13.520 --> 01:21:17.840
million dollars bond. Have you?
I don't believe I have no, No,

1086
01:21:18.479 --> 01:21:23.239
quite unusual. All right, we
gotta run James Bogan. But I

1087
01:21:23.359 --> 01:21:27.600
guess the evidence the search warrant gave
the plastic which is indicative of guilt,

1088
01:21:28.000 --> 01:21:30.680
but not despositive. But you put
it all together with all the other pieces

1089
01:21:30.720 --> 01:21:34.800
of evidence, it's pretty clear and
we'll see what occurs. But James Bogan,

1090
01:21:34.880 --> 01:21:38.800
once again, thank you for coming
on the Bill Cunningham Show, and

1091
01:21:38.960 --> 01:21:43.640
may justice prevail. Thank you,
Bill. Always a privilege, God bless

1092
01:21:43.760 --> 01:21:46.039
America. That's James Bogan, one
of the eminent criminal defense attorneys in the

1093
01:21:46.119 --> 01:21:49.840
Tri State. So let's continue with
more if a line becomes available five one,

1094
01:21:49.960 --> 01:21:54.079
three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand or pounds seven hundred

1095
01:21:54.079 --> 01:21:57.439
and coming up later, of course, will be the Rocks going to break

1096
01:21:57.479 --> 01:22:00.680
down the Bengals draft and more at
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01:22:00.960 --> 01:22:05.880
WW. My doctor told me I
should start swimming laughs for exercise, but

1098
01:22:06.079 --> 01:22:12.000
I found out he got his medical
degree in Granada wherever that is, So

1099
01:22:12.359 --> 01:22:15.039
instead I head to the pool and
listen to Scott Sloan Show. Full side

1100
01:22:15.119 --> 01:22:18.239
listening is perfect for my show.
Work on your tan while we take on

1101
01:22:18.319 --> 01:22:23.199
the important stuff and have a little
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1102
01:22:23.279 --> 01:22:27.680
smart. You know, I'm behins
for Granada. Is it's down there by

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01:22:27.760 --> 01:22:31.760
those other countries. Check out Sloaney
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1112
01:23:10.680 --> 01:23:15.760
Haiti neighborhood. Despite the difficulties,
the problems, the sorrow and once again

1113
01:23:15.119 --> 01:23:19.840
rest in peace, Chris Flanagan.
May your family have been left only with

1114
01:23:19.920 --> 01:23:24.159
the great memories of a good father
and a good husband, and I know

1115
01:23:24.279 --> 01:23:28.279
them a Derrek community and the extent
that community is going to wrap their arms

1116
01:23:28.359 --> 01:23:32.359
around Danielle and the kids for the
rest of their life. I also wanted

1117
01:23:32.399 --> 01:23:38.960
to note that Derre Park, the
great deer Park community, is losing.

1118
01:23:39.039 --> 01:23:43.760
It's a police chief today, Schlee. He's retiring after twenty six years,

1119
01:23:44.359 --> 01:23:47.640
more than a quarter of a century
of loyal service to deer Park. It's

1120
01:23:47.680 --> 01:23:51.720
a great community. It's five minutes
from I seventy one and five minutes from

1121
01:23:51.760 --> 01:23:58.359
I seventy five. It's between Kenwood
and Amberley Village as a functional school system

1122
01:23:59.199 --> 01:24:02.720
led by great superintendence and a good
school system. I go there every now

1123
01:24:02.760 --> 01:24:06.640
and then. I can walk the
hallways and kids are educated. It's because

1124
01:24:06.720 --> 01:24:12.840
it functions. Got a police problem, you call Chief Schlee and his staff,

1125
01:24:12.880 --> 01:24:15.560
he come and help you. You
need an MS or fire they got

1126
01:24:15.640 --> 01:24:18.199
a fire department. Silverton have a
good school system. They've got a good

1127
01:24:18.279 --> 01:24:23.079
shopping area in Dylan Vale. Then
you're a five minute drive from Kenwood,

1128
01:24:23.119 --> 01:24:26.600
which is one of the great shopping
areas. And the world is right there

1129
01:24:26.640 --> 01:24:29.880
in Kenwood. And it's been that
way for the last twenty six years,

1130
01:24:30.439 --> 01:24:34.319
partially because of cops like Mike Schlee
and all of his staff who have done

1131
01:24:34.359 --> 01:24:40.520
such a great job for so long, and after twenty six years of loyal

1132
01:24:40.560 --> 01:24:45.680
and good service, Schlee decided to
hang it up and do what he's got

1133
01:24:45.760 --> 01:24:49.880
to do and take some retirement and
have some other issues. But Mike Schlee

1134
01:24:50.000 --> 01:24:55.600
has been there for more than a
quarter century and today is his last day

1135
01:24:56.239 --> 01:24:59.600
after twenty six years. So if
you know Mike, give him a call

1136
01:24:59.680 --> 01:25:02.279
and thank him for all that he's
done. And I also understand that to

1137
01:25:02.399 --> 01:25:06.319
one of his guys are stepping up, Lieutenant Dave Batten b A T T

1138
01:25:06.600 --> 01:25:11.159
I N's going to take over keep
the park the park. It'll be a

1139
01:25:11.239 --> 01:25:15.359
wonderful place. So congratulations the Chief
Mike Schlee on a life well led,

1140
01:25:15.920 --> 01:25:18.560
read quite well, and thank you, thank you, thank you for the

1141
01:25:18.640 --> 01:25:24.079
service that you've made. Today's his
last day of loyal service. And when

1142
01:25:24.159 --> 01:25:30.119
we had on those raising money for
Sonny Kim police Officer Fred Fatout and also

1143
01:25:30.479 --> 01:25:39.279
Officer Dwayne Ernst and Claremont County,
I think of a call made out of

1144
01:25:39.359 --> 01:25:45.079
Madisonville that a man with a gun
in the street. Sonny Kim was not

1145
01:25:45.239 --> 01:25:48.680
scheduled to work that shift. Work
that day he was off, but he

1146
01:25:48.800 --> 01:25:51.680
wanted to make a few extra dollars, so he signed up to take an

1147
01:25:51.720 --> 01:25:57.560
extra shift. The call went out, man with a gun and in Madisonville,

1148
01:25:58.399 --> 01:26:02.119
Sonny Kim shows up in uniform in
a police car. And there was

1149
01:26:02.239 --> 01:26:06.560
an African American woman in the middle
of the street who was the mother of

1150
01:26:06.680 --> 01:26:11.520
the defendant, the murderer. She
did not know what he was about to

1151
01:26:11.640 --> 01:26:16.119
do. He was walking behind her. And the murderer is the one that

1152
01:26:16.239 --> 01:26:20.960
dialed nine one and man with a
gun because he wanted to kill a cop.

1153
01:26:21.399 --> 01:26:25.800
It was suicide by cop. He
wanted to kill a cop, an

1154
01:26:25.880 --> 01:26:31.279
officer. Sonny Kim was the one
who arrived. And shall we say,

1155
01:26:31.319 --> 01:26:35.399
the rest is history. And he
had on his vest. He came out

1156
01:26:35.439 --> 01:26:42.239
of the car with his spray.
He saw a woman did not see behind

1157
01:26:42.359 --> 01:26:47.840
him the murderer, and that quickly
the murderer reached around his mother and shot

1158
01:26:48.159 --> 01:26:53.439
Sonny Kim. The bullet entered a
quarter of an inch above his vest.

1159
01:26:54.000 --> 01:26:57.119
It was a quarter of inch lower. Sonny Kim would have lived, and

1160
01:26:57.279 --> 01:27:00.159
Sonny Kim was murdered. I believe
that was the last cop in the line

1161
01:27:00.199 --> 01:27:04.800
of duty in the city of Cincinnati
who was killed. Also a note that

1162
01:27:04.920 --> 01:27:12.239
Jack Crumley reported that Officer Unwin in
Springfield Township was going about eighty four miles

1163
01:27:12.279 --> 01:27:15.479
an hour or so when it lost
control of his vehicle and an innocent civilian

1164
01:27:16.159 --> 01:27:20.000
was the other side, a fifty
year old man who was killed. And

1165
01:27:20.199 --> 01:27:25.279
so we live in we live in
difficult times. Let's continue with more,

1166
01:27:25.399 --> 01:27:30.039
but tonight, before you close your
eyes, say a prayer for the repose

1167
01:27:30.119 --> 01:27:34.079
of the soul of the principle of
Madeira Elementary School. A friend of mine,

1168
01:27:34.520 --> 01:27:39.479
Chris Flanagan, who died a week
ago. Today, say a prayer

1169
01:27:39.560 --> 01:27:44.359
for his wife, Danielle, and
for his four children, that they may

1170
01:27:44.439 --> 01:27:47.920
find peace, if not in this
world. Then the next two thirty home

1171
01:27:47.960 --> 01:27:55.640
of your reds News Radio seven hundred
WLW Cincinnati. He was traffic and Weather

1172
01:27:56.239 --> 01:28:03.079
news Radio seven hundred wl W Sincinnati. The President says taxpayers will not be

1173
01:28:03.199 --> 01:28:08.239
on the hook for this bailout.
There's the two thirty report. I'm Matt

1174
01:28:08.319 --> 01:28:15.119
Reeese breaking now. President Biden says
a bank failure involving First Republic. He

1175
01:28:15.239 --> 01:28:17.800
wants people to know that shareholders are
going to pay for the failure, not

1176
01:28:18.079 --> 01:28:23.840
customers and not taxpayers as a whole. President Biden said, with the FDIC

1177
01:28:24.039 --> 01:28:28.479
stepping into season, sell first,
Republic Bank depositors are being protected, and

1178
01:28:28.600 --> 01:28:32.039
it's shareholders who are losing their investments. Speaking at an event to mark Small

1179
01:28:32.119 --> 01:28:35.760
Business Week, the presidents at American
Taxpayers are not on the hook for a

1180
01:28:35.840 --> 01:28:40.159
bailout. These actions are going to
make sure that the banking system is safe

1181
01:28:40.199 --> 01:28:45.159
and sound and either cruise protecting small
businesses across the country who need to make

1182
01:28:45.239 --> 01:28:49.039
payroll for workers, and they're small
businesses. Karen Travers, ABC News,

1183
01:28:49.199 --> 01:28:57.479
The White House Now the Lada's traffic
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Contact uc Health ear nose and throat
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1186
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to watch out for. Seventy five
south at five sixty two. It's got

1187
01:29:08.600 --> 01:29:11.600
the two right lanes block You're stop
and go from Cooper Avenue and Rock twenty

1188
01:29:11.640 --> 01:29:15.279
two northbound at Heads Drive. I'm
John Crawford on news Radio seven hundred w

1189
01:29:15.479 --> 01:29:21.239
WELW Now the latest forecast from the
train heating and Cooling Weather Center on news

1190
01:29:21.359 --> 01:29:30.279
radio seven hundred WLW applications without being
taken that become part of the city of

1191
01:29:30.720 --> 01:29:33.800
Scattered showers and cloud cover will continue
the rest of her Monday, and that

1192
01:29:33.960 --> 01:29:38.800
rain will likely pick up and become
steady into the evening and overnight into early

1193
01:29:38.920 --> 01:29:43.880
Tuesday. Temperatures today staying awfully chili
Hive only forty eight our average highest supposed

1194
01:29:43.880 --> 01:29:45.840
to be seventy one as we head
on throughout the evening. That wind will

1195
01:29:45.880 --> 01:29:49.199
continue to stay strong as well,
gusting up to forty miles per hour Tonight

1196
01:29:49.239 --> 01:29:53.439
down to forty one. Scattered showers
ending a few more possible Tuesday, a

1197
01:29:53.520 --> 01:29:57.199
high fifty two from me Severe weather
station I'm nine First Warning Media roologist Brandon

1198
01:29:57.239 --> 01:30:01.159
Spinner, news Radio seven hundred WLW
forty six and rain in Cincinnati. A

1199
01:30:01.239 --> 01:30:06.000
shooting near a taco bell in Coreyville. Cincinnati police looking for whoever pulled the

1200
01:30:06.079 --> 01:30:12.359
trigger. One person dead after that
shooting on East McMillan at Highland. A

1201
01:30:12.520 --> 01:30:16.680
Texas shooter still on the loose after
killing five neighbors happened forty five miles north

1202
01:30:16.760 --> 01:30:21.880
of Houston in the town of Cleveland
over the weekend. Suspect answered his neighbors

1203
01:30:23.000 --> 01:30:26.640
complaints about shooting a gun in his
yard by going over to their house and

1204
01:30:26.880 --> 01:30:33.119
executing them with an AAR fifteen style
rifle. Cincinnati police hiring bonuses higher pay

1205
01:30:33.279 --> 01:30:36.680
are being promoted as well. Applications
are now being taken to become part of

1206
01:30:36.720 --> 01:30:41.800
the City of Cincinnati's next police recruit
class. Paysmen bumped up to twenty five

1207
01:30:41.840 --> 01:30:44.840
dollars an hour for those selected to
be part of the twenty eight week course.

1208
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Thank you very much. I just
won five dollars. Yes, because

1230
01:32:23.960 --> 01:32:27.239
I bet that you would ask me
within the first two minutes about the possums

1231
01:32:27.279 --> 01:32:30.039
out here in open It's pretty much
the common knowledge of everything that goes on

1232
01:32:30.159 --> 01:32:33.640
here at the coliseum that there are
possums here. They've been here the last

1233
01:32:33.680 --> 01:32:38.399
few years, and I've not seen
any. I mean, the only rodents

1234
01:32:38.399 --> 01:32:43.279
that I've seen here in the radio
booths so far would be Tommy Thrall Hello,

1235
01:32:45.840 --> 01:32:55.199
Hello, Hello, Hello, quiet, and I'm broadcasting you know Rock.

1236
01:32:55.520 --> 01:33:00.920
The segment is noticeable. Buy his
absence where nothing sitting say, I

1237
01:33:00.000 --> 01:33:04.399
can't ass him say anyway, I
guess he's coming in, but offers somebody

1238
01:33:04.439 --> 01:33:10.399
more important. I have some questions
for you. Fire away baseball, Lou

1239
01:33:10.520 --> 01:33:16.039
Pinala, Seattle Mariners. Yes,
the best regular season record in baseball history.

1240
01:33:16.520 --> 01:33:23.439
What happened in the playoffs was not
successful. How about the seven New

1241
01:33:23.479 --> 01:33:28.800
England Patriots undefeated, untied, unscored
on playing the Super Bowl against the Giants.

1242
01:33:28.840 --> 01:33:32.000
What happened? They lost and I
couldn't have loved it anymore. How

1243
01:33:32.039 --> 01:33:38.880
about the NBA all time regular season
record Golden State. They were seventy three.

1244
01:33:40.039 --> 01:33:43.079
They've been him by one, seventy
three and nine. They go to

1245
01:33:43.159 --> 01:33:47.520
the finals against the Calves and Lebron
James. What happened? Destiny intervened?

1246
01:33:48.680 --> 01:33:54.760
How about the Boston Bruins all times
say season, regular season, most wins,

1247
01:33:54.880 --> 01:33:59.039
most points? What happened to them? And so you're telling me now

1248
01:33:59.479 --> 01:34:01.439
that if you have the best record
in football, basketball, baseball, and

1249
01:34:02.319 --> 01:34:09.800
throw in hockey or throw ins like
Indiana State undefeated, untied, unscored on

1250
01:34:10.159 --> 01:34:15.359
national championship game, what happened?
And UNLV with the great teams they had

1251
01:34:15.520 --> 01:34:18.520
the running rebels. They come to
the part Johnson, Stacy Augman, what

1252
01:34:18.640 --> 01:34:24.439
happened? So don't have a good
record in the regular seasons. I think

1253
01:34:24.439 --> 01:34:29.880
there's something to be said about not
peaking too early sometimes a couple of them

1254
01:34:29.960 --> 01:34:31.359
things. You can peak too early
where you're you know, you're winning all

1255
01:34:31.359 --> 01:34:34.960
these regular season games, and by
that time you're starting to be on the

1256
01:34:35.079 --> 01:34:40.800
downfall. The other side is maybe
you spend too much time and attention getting

1257
01:34:40.840 --> 01:34:45.439
on the regular Season's right? What
happened when you sleeping? What happened?

1258
01:34:45.520 --> 01:34:48.520
No things are rocketed? Roland in
the ducer and Willie don't worry about it.

1259
01:34:48.760 --> 01:34:51.640
What's happened? I'm not worried about
the sport. Duty to be here,

1260
01:34:51.800 --> 01:34:56.840
well, I'm I'm here down.
There's only one team that got rid

1261
01:34:56.920 --> 01:35:00.000
of the curse, Darren Park High
School twenty eighteen. We go undefeated,

1262
01:35:00.159 --> 01:35:08.680
untied. I'm leaving now. They're
playing the Columbus Nubians, the Nubians Afrocentric

1263
01:35:08.800 --> 01:35:13.079
High School, and Darren Park won
it all undefeated, untied, unscored on

1264
01:35:13.159 --> 01:35:16.199
because of Jay Phillips has made an
iol popular before there was an IO.

1265
01:35:19.199 --> 01:35:28.119
I'm I'm not sure what he said. One more snapt the Bearcats. He

1266
01:35:28.319 --> 01:35:33.800
takes the snap, he takes a
knee, look and the celebration begins at

1267
01:35:33.920 --> 01:35:43.079
Notre Dame Stadium. Opportunity sees as
the Bearcats send a message to the college

1268
01:35:43.119 --> 01:35:50.680
football world. Did you see that? Cincinnati wins at twenty four to thirteen

1269
01:35:50.960 --> 01:35:58.840
segment, Yes, nap Columbia to
a knee and here goes the countdown as

1270
01:35:58.960 --> 01:36:02.560
Marshall's fundering runs to midfield at Notre
Dame Stadium. When you were about to

1271
01:36:02.680 --> 01:36:10.039
brasil and two and one's the finals, Marshall twenty six, number eight Notre

1272
01:36:10.119 --> 01:36:14.640
Dame twenty one. Let's repeat that
one more time. Twenty six to twenty

1273
01:36:14.680 --> 01:36:18.479
one. Marshall wins at Notre Dame
see Dirr Park beat the Afrocentric Nubians to

1274
01:36:18.560 --> 01:36:24.560
win it all segment, your reaction
plus the Then they put you on TV.

1275
01:36:24.720 --> 01:36:27.199
They said, who's that old man
in that old jersey that they got

1276
01:36:27.319 --> 01:36:32.239
running around you? Right? I
was thought that Columbus police are gonna come

1277
01:36:32.239 --> 01:36:35.960
after you in my nineteen sixty six
Derr Park practice jersey and saw that.

1278
01:36:38.079 --> 01:36:40.520
I wonder if we got a tape
of that. We do not. It's

1279
01:36:40.560 --> 01:36:44.399
gotta be on YouTube. S get
ready to get us in. But I

1280
01:36:44.479 --> 01:36:46.520
got a few questions for the rock
Well he The stut To Port is a

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01:36:46.560 --> 01:36:53.600
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feel in Cincinnati, Ka Wayoming Air
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01:36:57.760 --> 01:37:05.279
six h v A C Sparts Red
Single Reds in San Diego to Night Willie

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01:37:05.680 --> 01:37:10.840
and UH six oh five Lands of
Sports Talk RNL Carriers Inside Pitch at eight

1285
01:37:11.000 --> 01:37:15.960
forty eight forty Luke Weaver against Blake
Snell in the opener Blake Schnell. The

1286
01:37:15.319 --> 01:37:18.840
Reds are twelve and sixteen, fourth
in the Central. Not bad. Uh.

1287
01:37:18.880 --> 01:37:24.479
The Padres are fifteen and fourteen so
far, that's not bad. That's

1288
01:37:24.520 --> 01:37:27.760
not good for them, but they
have hit thirty five home runs the Reds

1289
01:37:27.880 --> 01:37:31.800
nineteen Since twenty thirteen. The Reds
are eight and twenty one at Petco Park.

1290
01:37:32.199 --> 01:37:34.960
Now, Rock, what about the
draft? I'm about talking about beer,

1291
01:37:35.039 --> 01:37:39.279
I'm talking about football. You.
I got a few fact toys for

1292
01:37:39.399 --> 01:37:41.720
you. I could use facts.
I do like say, I come here

1293
01:37:41.760 --> 01:37:45.279
with facts and I'm on time.
I was in the insdream. It was

1294
01:37:45.319 --> 01:37:50.640
busy in the instream and was two
minutes late. So what to it two

1295
01:37:50.680 --> 01:37:54.600
minutes in d Well, you can't
handle it can't handle. I'm glad the

1296
01:37:54.720 --> 01:38:00.159
Rock was here. Which which conference
had the most players drafted? With?

1297
01:38:00.079 --> 01:38:05.159
You know what? The Philadelphia Bulldogs
They just changed their name apparently. Huh,

1298
01:38:05.239 --> 01:38:10.119
what are we talking about? They
picked ten Georgia Bulldogs right? Oh?

1299
01:38:10.319 --> 01:38:14.560
Yes, yes, so the Philadelphia
Eagles are now the Philadelphia Bulldogs.

1300
01:38:14.680 --> 01:38:16.000
Next level thinking, say, you
went right over my head there for a

1301
01:38:16.079 --> 01:38:19.239
second. I gotta pay attention.
Rock around here and just sent me a

1302
01:38:19.359 --> 01:38:25.479
texting Notre Dame could be competitive in
the Mack chiefs. Now is the Mac?

1303
01:38:25.680 --> 01:38:29.439
Number one answer my questions? Had
the most players drafted? I say

1304
01:38:29.479 --> 01:38:34.800
the Mac? Pretty easy? Sec
How many ten twenty six, sixty two

1305
01:38:35.439 --> 01:38:40.079
ten. No, that was Philadelphia. Sorry, going well, SEC had

1306
01:38:40.159 --> 01:38:44.960
sixty two players drafted. Okay,
was just down from sixty five and twenty

1307
01:38:45.039 --> 01:38:49.920
twenty and twenty number two Big ten. Big ten had fifty five. Which

1308
01:38:50.000 --> 01:38:54.800
school of the Big ten had the
most players? Dragon, Yes, with

1309
01:38:55.079 --> 01:38:59.920
nine? What the Ohio State only
had six? What that's because carry combs

1310
01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:02.319
and there anymore? Correct? And
then there was a significant drop off ACC

1311
01:39:02.600 --> 01:39:08.680
thirty three, Big twelve, twenty
nine, Pac twelve, Notre Dame Macy

1312
01:39:08.760 --> 01:39:13.199
had I think for Carl Brooks from
Bowling Green and a couple of others.

1313
01:39:13.520 --> 01:39:15.119
Notre Dame had three. But what
about did your school have? Oh,

1314
01:39:15.239 --> 01:39:18.000
sorry, Xavier didn't play football?
Well, but you're saying how many players

1315
01:39:18.039 --> 01:39:21.520
you guys hit you didn't play either, Well, Xavier's gonna get football back

1316
01:39:21.600 --> 01:39:28.359
then, not scheduled? Yes,
no, no, nobody being the mayor,

1317
01:39:28.800 --> 01:39:33.039
they're gonna hear you know had you
know, cuttingham Field for the football

1318
01:39:33.199 --> 01:39:35.600
you know, you see it is
one of the founding members of the back

1319
01:39:36.560 --> 01:39:43.600
correct, you see? So which
school had the most players drafted? It's

1320
01:39:43.640 --> 01:39:46.840
a tie for first. Georgia was
one and Alabama, Yes, she had

1321
01:39:46.920 --> 01:39:53.359
ten. How about this factory the
twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two Georgia

1322
01:39:53.439 --> 01:39:57.239
defense. So or let's just say
the twenty twenty one Georgia defense. Okay,

1323
01:39:58.159 --> 01:40:02.600
including last year and this year,
fourte players drafted off that defense exactly.

1324
01:40:02.680 --> 01:40:06.199
Think so backups on that defense are
now going to play football in the

1325
01:40:06.319 --> 01:40:12.000
National Football League. Those are factoids
that cannot be refuted. At fifty four

1326
01:40:12.199 --> 01:40:18.920
point four million viewers and watch they've
drafted three days. Well, because I've

1327
01:40:18.960 --> 01:40:23.720
said this every year, but rarely
in life do you get to see someone's

1328
01:40:23.800 --> 01:40:27.600
dream come true live in person.
Right if somebody gets a promotion to the

1329
01:40:28.319 --> 01:40:30.359
job they've always wanted, or they
get to go to the law firm or

1330
01:40:30.399 --> 01:40:32.640
whatever they you know, you don't
get to see that. You get to

1331
01:40:32.680 --> 01:40:36.279
see a player, a human being, get the phone called boom. Your

1332
01:40:36.319 --> 01:40:40.479
life has changed forever. And the
tears, the emotion, the families,

1333
01:40:40.560 --> 01:40:43.600
the dads, the moms, the
ants, and everybody's that was involved in

1334
01:40:43.680 --> 01:40:45.640
getting that person there, You see
it lot. What about the quarterback from

1335
01:40:45.760 --> 01:40:51.640
UK It was all urinated off will
Levis. He did not Will Levis,

1336
01:40:51.760 --> 01:40:56.840
will Levis, he did not even
up He went to Tennessee in the second

1337
01:40:56.960 --> 01:41:00.439
round. If well, if you'd
listen to me on my draft coverage,

1338
01:41:00.439 --> 01:41:02.920
I didn't think he was gonna go
in the first time because he third like

1339
01:41:03.079 --> 01:41:06.960
twenty three interceptions in two years.
You can't do that, can I have

1340
01:41:08.039 --> 01:41:11.840
a ton of success? Those are
kind of guys, open guys. I

1341
01:41:11.920 --> 01:41:15.159
mean, had the strongest arms,
athletic call that, but it just didn't

1342
01:41:15.199 --> 01:41:18.680
translate it though. That's playing since
Night Hills League. Here, so here,

1343
01:41:18.760 --> 01:41:20.479
here, I got a clip.
I'm gonna play it for you here.

1344
01:41:20.720 --> 01:41:24.760
Um, this is there's a running
back named Deuce Vaughan. Okay,

1345
01:41:24.880 --> 01:41:30.159
played to Kansas State. Amazing player. Um, he's like five five,

1346
01:41:30.920 --> 01:41:34.039
one eighty, but he's like you
can't tackle because he's super tiny. Right.

1347
01:41:34.319 --> 01:41:40.960
His dad is a scout for the
Cowboys. Okay, and uh,

1348
01:41:41.239 --> 01:41:43.680
go ahead and play the clip.
This is his dad calling Deuce Vaughn.

1349
01:41:44.880 --> 01:41:48.479
Hey, buddy's going He's going good. This is dad. My phone wasn't

1350
01:41:48.479 --> 01:41:51.039
working. Look at here, man, you want to come to work with

1351
01:41:51.119 --> 01:42:00.640
me next week? Draft? I
got somebody want to speak. You've got

1352
01:42:00.720 --> 01:42:06.399
somebody who speaking. I don't know
when I've been speaking for everybody that's really

1353
01:42:06.439 --> 01:42:11.199
in the heart of the Dallas Cowboys. Just tading here with a tear in

1354
01:42:11.279 --> 01:42:15.520
our eye. We're so happy to
have you on the Dallas Cowboys. I

1355
01:42:15.640 --> 01:42:19.439
can't thank you enough. Well,
what I really want to say, you

1356
01:42:19.640 --> 01:42:25.880
earned every ounce of me being able
to make this call. I'm so excited.

1357
01:42:25.920 --> 01:42:30.239
There's just something magical about this moment
that may be bigger than we even

1358
01:42:30.319 --> 01:42:34.399
realize. You're talking to you on
the phone. Joys Now a Dallas Cowboy.

1359
01:42:34.840 --> 01:42:39.680
Your daddy just handing the card in
right here. That's got him on

1360
01:42:39.760 --> 01:42:45.880
it. Congratulations about that. So
there's your answer to why do people watch

1361
01:42:45.960 --> 01:42:50.279
the drafting those numbers because moment moments
like that it's amazing. I mean I

1362
01:42:50.680 --> 01:42:55.119
watched I mustn't watched that clip twenty
five times. It's as good as it

1363
01:42:55.199 --> 01:42:58.479
gets. Dad in tears. He's
been a scout for the Cowboys for like

1364
01:42:58.600 --> 01:43:02.039
twenty five years, always been there
with his son. They're gonna imagine that

1365
01:43:02.239 --> 01:43:05.239
man, that's gonna be the greatest
moment in that father's life. Called his

1366
01:43:05.359 --> 01:43:09.520
own son and saying, hey,
I was calling me to work. I

1367
01:43:09.680 --> 01:43:13.439
was watching news Max and Brikeebarts.
Wonder what those two I want to know?

1368
01:43:13.920 --> 01:43:16.640
We know a draft pick around here, rock that got all those hats.

1369
01:43:17.479 --> 01:43:19.279
I want the hat. I want
the rest of the hats. A

1370
01:43:19.319 --> 01:43:23.119
guy didn't hell, yeah, yeah, I just want the top guys.

1371
01:43:23.159 --> 01:43:25.880
I sent all the hats, and
yeah, they send all they sent all

1372
01:43:25.920 --> 01:43:28.800
the points. Has a few hats
put me there? You had the Titans.

1373
01:43:28.840 --> 01:43:30.159
I think it's a good spot for
him. He would not play for

1374
01:43:30.159 --> 01:43:32.359
a year or two. Tann Hills
there. It's good. You know that

1375
01:43:32.880 --> 01:43:38.000
the media is not gonna be dolling. I know he's gonna be in Tennessee

1376
01:43:38.079 --> 01:43:40.319
and he went to Kentucky. That's
not good. Yeah, it's still the

1377
01:43:40.399 --> 01:43:43.600
South. It's still it's Tennessee Orange
is one of one of my favorite songs.

1378
01:43:43.960 --> 01:43:45.319
Yes, I like that. You
know what I'm talking about, sake?

1379
01:43:45.680 --> 01:43:50.159
You mean Rocky Top? Well,
Tennessee Orange the country hit right now,

1380
01:43:50.560 --> 01:43:53.960
you fool. I don't know about
that one. All I know about

1381
01:43:54.079 --> 01:43:56.920
Rocky Top. Who had a better
draft? I'm gonna ask you too,

1382
01:43:57.119 --> 01:44:00.600
the Steelers or the Bengals. There's
had a good draft. I think I

1383
01:44:00.640 --> 01:44:01.760
think that. I always say I
don't like the Steelers, so I say

1384
01:44:01.800 --> 01:44:05.279
the Bengals without knowing the facts.
That's got me a live Steelers and first

1385
01:44:05.359 --> 01:44:10.279
round they traded up to get the
offensive tackle out of Georgia, brought Er

1386
01:44:10.439 --> 01:44:15.199
Jones and then took a Joey Porter
junior first pick the second round, um

1387
01:44:15.319 --> 01:44:17.760
and they got that tight end.
I really liked Darnell Washington, Georgia.

1388
01:44:17.920 --> 01:44:23.520
Michael Mayer. He went to the
Raid Raiders. It'll be in Vegas.

1389
01:44:23.800 --> 01:44:27.000
He'll be the kind of kid that
can survive in Vegas with the strippers,

1390
01:44:27.039 --> 01:44:30.560
the drinking and all that, the
drugs and the women, naked women.

1391
01:44:30.760 --> 01:44:33.479
He'll be saying, you know about
all that, Wayne Ellen Route tells me.

1392
01:44:33.560 --> 01:44:38.720
Okay. By the way, Steelers
drafted no skill positions, no running

1393
01:44:38.760 --> 01:44:42.520
backs, no quarterbacks, no wide
receivers. They're loading up to good luck

1394
01:44:42.560 --> 01:44:47.119
to you get after Joe Burrow.
And that's how protect set up and open

1395
01:44:47.199 --> 01:44:50.239
it up for questions. Coach there. And by the way, Mike Brown

1396
01:44:50.840 --> 01:44:56.560
is an assassin when it comes to
contracts. Would you agree, I'm not

1397
01:44:56.680 --> 01:45:00.560
talking about the coach of Sacramento.
I'm talking about our Mike Brown. Yes,

1398
01:45:00.520 --> 01:45:04.520
Because that guy's an assassin. He
did not want to assassinate the contract

1399
01:45:04.520 --> 01:45:08.439
of one Joe Mixon, that's for
sure. It looks to me. I

1400
01:45:08.520 --> 01:45:11.479
mean, what about Zach Taylor saying
he's my running back? What does that

1401
01:45:11.600 --> 01:45:13.920
mean? Does that that came down
from the head? I mean, Mike

1402
01:45:13.960 --> 01:45:15.920
Brown has always been known to have
kind of a soft spot spot for some

1403
01:45:16.960 --> 01:45:21.880
you know people, right, Chris
Henry's Batman Jones. But he did at

1404
01:45:23.119 --> 01:45:27.560
Oklahoma what slugged that woman? Yeah, I'm saying, but he's I think

1405
01:45:27.600 --> 01:45:30.640
he's a man that enjoys giving people
a second chance in life. And for

1406
01:45:30.720 --> 01:45:35.079
the most part, maybe the last
few months, said Joe Mixon is performed.

1407
01:45:35.600 --> 01:45:40.079
Did he pull a gun on that
woman? We don't know he's an

1408
01:45:40.079 --> 01:45:42.760
assassin. I mean, apparently the
charges got rebrought up, so I would

1409
01:45:42.800 --> 01:45:45.800
imagine there's something there, But I
don't know is he an assassin or not?

1410
01:45:45.960 --> 01:45:50.239
What about the contract for Joe Burrow. Now that we have Lamar Jackson

1411
01:45:50.319 --> 01:45:54.840
done, don't you par Jackson got
one eighty five guarantee? What's the number

1412
01:45:54.960 --> 01:45:58.439
that Joe b Is going to get
guaranteed? To start with a two?

1413
01:45:58.760 --> 01:46:03.119
What do you get two sixty two
sixty sixty over five five guarantee two sixty

1414
01:46:03.159 --> 01:46:10.239
one for Joe Burrow two hundred billion
dollars. Yeah, it's like it's like

1415
01:46:10.920 --> 01:46:13.840
it's like the price is right,
I'll go. I'll go with a two

1416
01:46:14.039 --> 01:46:17.439
sixty one on Joe Burrow. I'm
saying one ninety guaranteed. But who cares

1417
01:46:17.479 --> 01:46:20.680
about You're gonna cut the guy whatever
the top line number. What do you

1418
01:46:20.760 --> 01:46:25.560
cut them? No, but you
know five years from now, Lamar is

1419
01:46:25.560 --> 01:46:28.399
gonna be back, isn't he.
Well, they got a boatload of players

1420
01:46:28.560 --> 01:46:31.479
ready for next year. I mean
mixing Logan Wilson. There's a whole list

1421
01:46:31.520 --> 01:46:39.600
of real good players that are had
to go heavy on defense or inductive guys

1422
01:46:39.640 --> 01:46:45.279
are on cheap rookie salary contracts.
He's in the first and around and beyond.

1423
01:46:45.399 --> 01:46:48.560
He's an assassin. Say any more
sports. I think that's it.

1424
01:46:48.640 --> 01:46:53.199
I think we've done it. I
think we've I watched the two are Anthology

1425
01:46:53.359 --> 01:46:57.439
of Dusty Rhodes. He's now on
my Mount Rushmore of the four I got

1426
01:46:57.479 --> 01:47:04.039
my county honor. No, I'm
talking about I'm talking about he Flair.

1427
01:47:04.239 --> 01:47:09.920
Yes, you don't know what hard
times Dunston Roads hard times. I when

1428
01:47:10.039 --> 01:47:14.079
the textile workers around this country I
had to work. They got four five

1429
01:47:14.239 --> 01:47:18.079
kids and can't pay the way get
can't buy the food, hard times when

1430
01:47:18.520 --> 01:47:24.399
the workers I had to work and
they tell him, and hard times I

1431
01:47:24.600 --> 01:47:29.760
when a man is working a job, compete. Hardy is getting a watch,

1432
01:47:30.119 --> 01:47:32.640
can't get in the butt and say
hey, I come, Kuta took

1433
01:47:32.720 --> 01:47:36.199
your place. That a hard time. Now I got the other two,

1434
01:47:38.600 --> 01:47:42.359
so hold on. So you're putting
Dusty Rhodes in your mount Rushmore Top four

1435
01:47:42.439 --> 01:47:46.520
wrestler all the time flair Roads.
I'm going with Hule Cogan because for twenty

1436
01:47:46.600 --> 01:47:50.560
five he's on the tonight or on
the map. That's three, and my

1437
01:47:50.760 --> 01:47:56.640
number four is Roman Range. Stone
calls Stone cold. Yeah, Austin,

1438
01:47:57.079 --> 01:48:01.279
I agree with too, maybe three
year. But Dusty Rhodes it was he's

1439
01:48:01.319 --> 01:48:05.000
too obscure. He was in the
wood w c W didn't hustle w WF.

1440
01:48:05.880 --> 01:48:12.960
He's got no respects. Among pulled
a hundred people, who's Dusty Rhodes

1441
01:48:13.039 --> 01:48:16.760
half of them the other half would
not if he had a real wrestling match.

1442
01:48:16.840 --> 01:48:21.960
I'm taking Andre the Giant and the
Undertaker, say now the Undertaker makes

1443
01:48:23.000 --> 01:48:25.760
that. By the way, my
middle son, for whatever reason, is

1444
01:48:25.920 --> 01:48:29.600
all in on the Undertaker. He's
got these little videos out on YouTube.

1445
01:48:29.640 --> 01:48:31.800
He does that are he's the he's
the s Yeah, he wants to change

1446
01:48:31.840 --> 01:48:38.800
his name from Bronson Alexander b Undertaker
Bronson the Undertaker, boytman, you got

1447
01:48:38.840 --> 01:48:42.119
a problem already, Rock, here
we go. How old is he?

1448
01:48:42.560 --> 01:48:48.159
Five four five? Under the Undertaker? A rock? Thank you very much.

1449
01:48:48.199 --> 01:48:50.399
What you got on the big show
today? If anything? Rather gate

1450
01:48:50.439 --> 01:48:56.119
we got Dave Lap breakdown draft,
break it down, and then we have

1451
01:48:56.119 --> 01:48:59.479
a little bit more draft later at
five o'clock with Paul Danner Junior, and

1452
01:48:59.520 --> 01:49:01.399
then just stuff in between. Segmn
get me out of the Stute report?

1453
01:49:01.680 --> 01:49:08.359
WILLI a honor of a kind of
our crappy day outside and you being late,

1454
01:49:08.720 --> 01:49:13.880
We leave you with the immortal words
of the Stuport And I tell a

1455
01:49:14.000 --> 01:49:17.039
story about the cold, but it's
susage you make up. Let's walk up

1456
01:49:17.039 --> 01:49:21.359
through the woods and these little pigs
run around, and he grabbed the little

1457
01:49:21.439 --> 01:49:26.560
pigs and he make it cold.
Let it suckage out. Uh. But

1458
01:49:26.760 --> 01:49:30.920
always in that story, when she's
skinned and brides the biggest silver dollars,

1459
01:49:30.239 --> 01:49:36.439
Thermica dream comes in, saves the
little pig. Is that's hard time?

1460
01:49:36.640 --> 01:49:42.720
Say you can't make Come on,
Rockett, all right, come on,

1461
01:49:43.239 --> 01:49:46.079
s gotta put the Hamilton County Honor. Come on, hard time, dadd

1462
01:49:46.079 --> 01:49:55.479
ain't hard times. That's what he
has here. We're going Entrance Music Place.

1463
01:49:55.520 --> 01:49:59.600
Would go Arenas would go nuts nuts
here it is if we go.

1464
01:49:59.720 --> 01:50:10.520
BA just a common name with this
Sleep, He's just a common I can't

1465
01:50:10.560 --> 01:50:21.640
take y'alls. You ought to use
this on this SIRCA. How do you

1466
01:50:21.680 --> 01:50:27.840
need to adopt this? Yeah,
client, Client seven, get that thing

1467
01:50:27.920 --> 01:50:34.159
going. It's seven hundred, got
to go all over. That's all right. Affordable