Demic with the chair Great Congressman brad Winstrip, mainly the testimony of the head
of the American Federation of Teachers, Randy white Gartner, that had no relationship
to reality and the rewriting history. What me, I hear no evil,
I speak no evil, and I see no evil. What are you talking
about? It's beautiful stuff to watch. Almost as bad as doctor Anthony Fauci,
who now claims it really had nothing to do with shutting down anything.
Congressman brad Winstrip, the chair of the subcommittee on Lockdown and the Pandemic,
welcome again at the Bill Cunningham Show. And before we get into specifics,
I have the transcripts here. Can you give me the overview as the chair
of the committee. What Randy white Gardner, head of the Teachers Union,
what she said, and it's vacation from reality. Yeah, well, first
of all, they're hearing it was certainly the opportunity to set it stuff for
what's called a transcribed interview. You're a lawyer, you know what that is.
So we will be having her back. But what we came with was
very clear. We know it, she knows. The chieman said that the
American Federation of Teachers is a political organization. They're not a medical organization,
and I don't believe that they're for the service of educating the America's children by
and large in that part of the organization. You know, the CDC opened
the door to the American Federation of Teachers, which was uncommon access. You
know, they don't have medical guidance. Although Randy Weingarten said, yeah,
we spoke to some physicians, she couldn't name them, and she couldn't say
what guidance they actually gave. But all of their guidance and all of their
communications that we found, especially between amongst themselves and then with the CDC,
they were always pushing foreclosure of schools, not opening of schools. Never were
they saying what do we need to do to get open? Actually, and
I'll use their word, they said, we need a trigger, and this
is on their internal doguments. We need a trigger for schools to be closed,
and we should use a community transmission rates, not in school transmission rates.
Well, they're markedly different. And that's the thing. The community was
far different. You were safer in school than you were out in the community.
But they never were saying, you know, it must get the kids
back in school, that education is essential and we're essential to that. You
know, you saw doctors and nurses dealing with all the high risk conditions out
there, but teachers and students were at the lowest risk. And the teachers
union came out and will we want to be vaccinated first? Okay? Well,
as a nation, we gave teachers the opportunity to go to the front
of the line, and then when they got it, that wasn't good enough.
And Bill, the real problem is why so many schools were open.
They were continuing to push for closure. You know, my kids at a
Catholic school, they didn't miss a day once the fall of twenty twenty came
around. But the people who suffered the most in this country were really the
children, especially those of load and moderate income. Because parents couldn't go to
work, they had to stay home with their kids. They didn't have access
to other conditions that would let their kids be taken care of. But they
suffered academically, physically, and mentally. And all this why others were open.
And we're also concerned. You know, where did the funds go and
why did some of the funds go to non COVID related things. Like new
gymnasiums or curriculum raises certainly is arguably and Ben probably who raises? But and
the Democrats never looked at any of this, never looked at any of this
while they were in charge. But here's the next question. Why did the
CDC. You have a physician in charge there, doctor Rolinsky? Why did
she just accept the guidelines that they put over? They put them in word
for word without a discussion that we can find of whether it was a good
idea, was it based on science? Who were they protecting? And the
next question is was this a direction from the White House to the CDC.
Now, well, one of the best parts of your subcommittee was Congressman Miller
Meeks did a great job from Iowa yea. She said, quote, did
your scientific experts present to you as of June of twenty twenty, among one
point eight million children in this age group? You know how many died in
that age group? And then Winegartner said, quote, I don't have that
number in my head. Miller Meeks then answered her own questions saying, well,
the number is zero. And you know all help broke loose in March
February March April, that is when what we got is a cholera, is
the bubonic plague? Is it flu? Is it a cold? As as
big as it not? But certainly in the summer of the summer of twenty
we knew exactly what we dealt with, in which there was a limited number
of people at risk. But the teachers Union and close consult with the CDC
and doctor Wilensky did everything in their power to close schools down. But she
testified differently, didn't she Yeah, And doctor will and Randy Weinartner finally had
to admit, but she had to be pressed. She has doctor Willinski's direct
number, and this co woman Letsko said, oh, well, I'm on
two committees that deal with the CDC and I don't have her number. Maybe
I can get that. She tried to spin around it, and she knew
that she couldn't because she was under oath. So you can just see and
look. You look at their numbers of where they donate, who they donate
to. As I pointed out, I think six of the seven Democrats on
the committee have received funds from the Teachers' Union. Okay, they're a union,
that's what they do, and they're a political organization. But you got
to admit it. And they had no business giving guidelines to the CDC and
just having them accepted without some medical background backing behind it. And there clearly
wasn't any you said in your opening statement quote, the baseline question should have
been schools need to be open? Are we doing everything we can to make
that happen? And you added to the recommendation in February of twenty twenty one
when Biden sees power the school reopening guidance and the Biden administration kept nine of
schools fully from reopening at that time. The recommendation's wednestrip name were use of
community spread rates to determine reopening instead of the rest of children and the teachers.
That was a key difference, wasn't it. Yeah, I mean you
might as well just look at the people that were most vulnerable, the people
they had code morbidities that had nothing to do with what was going on in
the schools. And like I said, it's not like other schools weren't open.
They were. But you know it, you know, it brings to
the point where you see more people going for school choice, they're going for
homeschooling. There's a lot of reasons for this, but certainly the private schools.
You know, Bill, I was with local heads of the NABACP a
few years ago and I asked them what they thought about school choices. Oh,
we're against it. Then when I asked them where their kids went to
school, they both were in private schools. Of course, you know,
don't do as I say, but don't do as I do. Do as
I say. And when you talk to congressmen, represent MCP, whatever it
is, whatever group that says we have to we have to hurt private schools
in school choice, they themselves do exactly the opposite of what their policies would
seem to indicate. And it doesn't stop. Quote. This is also from
you what the hearing, it made sense to consult with the CDC. It
was only appropriate for the CDC to confer with educators. It would have been
reprehensible not to have done so. So the consultation. Yes, talk to
them, but at the end of the day, the teachers unions are not
medical facilities. What they are unions that advocate for higher wages and better working
conditions for their teacher. And that's why they that's why they exist. You
know, we had a hearing with one of the leaders from the School Nurses
Association and she and she was the Democrat witness, and she basically said the
schools should have been open and though they were ready, they were ready to
go and clearly not the case. And this has got to come to reality
for America, and I hope people understand it because their kids were affected and
there's no plan. Do you ever see them come up with a plan to
really get the kids caught up? No? I mean basically what we did
in those schools is you, as sixth grade teachers to teach fourth graders.
Well, that's that's impossible. That is too much to make up. And
I'm not sure how they're dealing with it except for possibly just moving them along,
which is even more dangerous social promotion. You and I I know you,
it's your responsibility as chair of the Select Committee on the coronavirus pandemic.
But that is that it is obvious. We live in a little part of
America called Cincinnati, and the Archdiocese of Cincinnati schools had about have about thirty
seven thousand students. CPS SINCI Public Schools have thirty five thousand students. The
thirty seven thousand were in school being taught by teachers in the school. They
lost nothing. The thirty five thousand and CPS or anywhere from one to three
years behind, And there's no attempt to make sure that a third grader can
read. I can't imagine being in school in Chicago, Cleveland, Cincinnati,
and Austin. I can't imagine being in school. And how about Portland or
Lost Angels, San Francisco. How far those kids are behind and just naturally
way behind, and then you take them out of school for a year and
a half to two years they can't read. And how many kids the great
majority of public school kids graduate in Chicago that are functionally illiterate. And there's
no attempt to say, we've got to be open in additional six weeks in
the summer. If you're a second or third grader, you will get a
reading guarantee if you go to Chicago public schools. Here any talk from Randy
or wine Gardener about that. And the only way you get better is if
you're willing to look at the mistakes that you made and admit to them.
But if your motives were political, if your motives were personal rather than just
not having the right data or something like that, and then we have a
huge problem. And you've got to look back. And that's what this committee's
trying to do, look back at everything that was done. And it's reasonable
for us in an oversight role to question the motives behind decisions. And I
think we're getting there. And for people like Randy Weingarten and Anthony Fauci,
the wagons are going to circle around him. Because I saw a deposition with
Anthony Fauci, because he's getting sued by Louisiana, Missouri one hundred and seventy
four times, he said he doesn't remember when asked questions. Well, there's
a lot of people around him that do remember. And now as he's starting
to remember, he's remembering things differently than they actually happened. Well, he
Fauci defied anyone to prove that he closed down a single school or a single
business. And then go to the tape he told President Trump to quote,
shut the country down on television countless times to warn against the Red States opening
their school too early. He went on television to condemn people who wanted to
open schools in the so called Red States. And so thank god we have
that. Secondly, you're a congressman, a doctor in addition of being a
representative, and a retired soldier with great distinction, many medals, and on
the House committee that you serve intelligence. There's now a push by the Bide
administration to have battery operated tanks. I can only imagine in a battle with
battery operated tanks and troop carriers and Bradley fighting vehicles. What is the Biden
administration now is talking about putting batteries and tanks. Well, first of all,
the first thing that comes to my mind when I think of tanks battery
operated, I think of the Russian tanks that were just stranded on the side
of the road. Why because they didn't have gas, They didn't have energy.
Our batteries, our electric vehicles rely on China. We can't produce these
vehicles without China contributing to the process in the making of the battery. We
don't do that. We no longer have that type of technology. We've given
up our minds. You know, we have one rare Earth's mind and has
zero capability to process rare earth minerals. So, in other words, we
can mind them, we can't process them. This is California's Mountain Pass and
it's one tenth owned by a Chinese investor, but it's across the board,
and we are stuck on pharmaceuticals, on energy, and if we're going to
make this push, we need to make sure that we can be a one
hundred percent domestic and strong in our capabilities if we're going to push something,
especially for our military. I mean, I thinking greatly concerned during COVID when
the reality came around it as I served interacted. My protective equipment and my
pharmaceuticals are battlefield medicines relied on China. How does that matter? How do
we manage that if they decide to take us down, they're not going to
have to fire a shot. We're in a position today where they can do
so many things to just shut us down. It's been estimated that if they
stop producing the minerals and other products of just making of generics, generic medicines,
we're done in two months. We have nothing, and what a great
opportunity for sabotage. The FDA isn't over the Chinese labs to make sure these
medicines are okay, and there's been multiple times where the medicines have been fifteen
years ago, about two hundred and fifty Americans died from tainted hepron that China
produce, and yet they still go on and they have no liability. But
you know, you look at this idea of electric vehicles and all the stuff
going on right now in the effort of green energy, and look, I'm
for all of the above, and there's been a lot of things that have
happened. We passed a Clean Air Act years ago and a great deal of
progress has been made. And you know, but I want to bring up
something. You know, when you go out in the sun, you put
on sunblock because you don't want to skin cancer. Yet at the same time,
it's healthy for you to get some vitamin D from the sun. And
also, as a doctor, I could prescribe a medication that might kill the
virus in bacteria in you, but if it kills you too, it really
doesn't help you. And so it's interesting. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
has a forty year study that came out with last year they said, well,
we've cleaned up pollutions so well over the Atlantic that there's actually more hurricanes
and storms and warming here. Again. Yeah, over the last forty years
over the Atlantic Ocean, we have cleaned up the air so much that there
are actually more hurricanes and storms because we've heated the water, which creates the
energy for those. In other words, Bill, we've cleaned it up so
much that there's no particulate matter up there anymore. That used to serve as
a block. Now it's like a magnifying glass. So it does. So
it does create global one. And in the Pacific. In the Pacific,
hurricanes and storms have gone down where the particulate pollution has gone up. So
I've said, I've said this in the committee. I said, you know,
if you talk about science, you know, I'm all four science,
but let's really talk about all of it. Sometimes we can overdo it and
maybe make things worse. And you know, there's just so many things in
this arena and with energy that are so important. You know. I remember
being in Chicago for a Red Cub series twenty five years ago or so,
and they had a brown out and it was so bad five hundred people died
in their apartments. So you see the importance of energy to keep you alive.
Go through a hospital and look at all the monitors and everything that's all
relies on energy and their backup as generators. So let's not kill ourselves by
doing too much. I'm all for clean air, clean water. So were
you You remember when you couldn't see the tops of buildings in Los Angeles.
We've come a long way, but sometimes you have to take a look and
say, have we done too much? It's a religion. It's a religion,
it's a belief. I potted up this story reducing human caused air pollution
a North American europe bring surprise, result, more hurricanes because of the pollution
caused by China. There's less hurricanes in the Pacific. There's more because of
what we've done. It's the law of unintended consequences. And what Biden is
doing is making China great again with rare earth minerals and also solar panels only
coming out of communist read China. And also the thirty one million dollars or
so that the Chinese, the Russians and the Ukrainians put in the Biden bank
accounts, which hopefully that'll metastasize. But Congressman, we gotta go, brad
Winstrip of Ohio, keep doing what you're doing. We're not getting the truth.
If we had a real attorney general, there would be perjury charges filed
against Wein Gardner and against doctor Anthony Fauci. But it's not going to happen
now. But thank you for coming on, and thank you for doing what
you're doing. The mainstream meet largely doesn't cover all this, but the fifteen
to twenty percent that listen to those of us that care about facts do.
But Congress and brad Winstrip, doctor and soldier, once again, thank you
for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, and with your permission, will do
it again. Thank you, doctor, Thank you doctor. Yes, sir,
Congress and brad Winstrip lessen tenue with more. Wow. The more you
clean things up, guess what, the more hurricanes. The less you clean
things up, the less hurricanes. Did you? Did you know that?
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the United States, going to talk about his interview with Chuck Todd yesterday and
more. But I note with interest the passing of Mcdaia Elementary School Principal Chris
Flanagan, and Judge Leslie Gizz has written for The Inquirer a beautiful opinion of
contribution as to what Chris Flanagan, the principal, demand meant to the city
of Madeira. And once again Judge Leslie gives welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show.
And Judge, first of all, would you tell the American people the
circumstances that caused you to write this opinion for the Inquiry Will Lee, I
have to talk to you in a while. I'm sorry it's under these circumstances
I had. It was hard. Last week is a rough week. We
woke up on Tuesday morning to alerts that the school was closed, and of
course it was a bit ominous the message we got, and I immediately called
over to my contacts in the police department and said, we don't know.
I think it's a power outage or something like that. And then ten minutes
later they called me back and said that they said Chris Flannagan died, and
you, I mean, I had to sit down. I could not believe
it. And so the whole school, it's slowly trickled out. The teachers
were to report so they could be told, and it's just been a very
dark week for the people of Madeira, and especially the students and teachers at
the elementary school. But I couldn't but everybody kept talking about it on Facebook,
and I couldn't bring myself to speak about it because I would talk my
sister and you know, my kids obviously, But it was difficult, and
so each day I kind of threw some words on a piece of paper and
by Thursday I had been able to sort of compile something and was able to
get the Inquiry to publish it. I guess they published it on Thursday or
Friday, and was just a you know, a heart felt It was what
everybody in our community feels about him, just sort of wrapped into a little
essay. And it's a loss. It's a really, not only because it's
his age and because he aged his children and the suddenness of it and his
wife, but especially for our school community because he was just something else.
He was amazing. I knew Chris for about fifteen years. Is his only
son. Jack has been to our house. I don't know fifty times.
It's been twice in the past seven days. I've been close to the family
because my grandson, Cole Cunningham, probably his best friend was Jack Flanagan growing
up, so every time the family's interacted together for sports, he slept over
at our house repeatedly. It's a shock because Chris Flanagan was but fifty years
old. He was off for a couple of weeks with a minor knee surgery,
and something happened a week ago today. The call as him to die
suddenly in the arms of his of his children and his wife and their home,
and I was called a couple hours three or four hours later, and
I've been there, and I went to the get together last night across Roads
and Penny, you saw her. I saw Penny this morning. Yeah,
Good Shepherd. I'm really sorry. I didn't realize. Um, I didn't
realize your connection to them. I mean, it's amazing. You should have
seen this place, the church yesterday. I swear there must have been four
to five thousand people that went through there yesterday and then today at the funeral.
It's a fifteen fifteen hundred seat church, Good Shepherd, and it was
popped. I mean it was it was stilled. And UM, I just
uh, it's just amazing what an impact he made on people, and not
just his students, but his friends and his um colleagues and his sam his
family was all there. It's just it's just heartbreaking. And um, you
know, you're right. It's a routine knee surgery and wants in a blue
moon. Um, you know, people get clotting from that and that,
Um, you know it was I asked somebody yesterday, I think it was
a pulmonary embolism, and it's just very quick and sudden and not expected and
it's unfair, but it is what what happened. You said, in your
editorial, you said my father died when he was slightly younger than Chris,
and my siblings I were all about the same age as as children, my
mother around the same age as his wife. My heart bleeds for the law.
So you personally felt this along with Oh killed me today because I just
would. It's, um, it's a pain that it goes away eventually,
just gets numb. You know, you don't react as much to it.
I mean, and my dad hasn't gone for thirty two thirty three years this
summer, and um, you know, these kids, it's just it's not
what's supposed to happen, not when you're that young and you know you bury
parents, but it's supposed to be when you're older, when you're an adult.
So I just I just hurt watching them today. And they were so
stoic, and so he would be so proud of how well they handled themselves.
And this is just one of those things that's not supposed to happen.
And then when I see it happen and the kids it's three girls, one
boy, just like us, all the same ages, it just kills me
even more. It just it's so hard and then to know what a wonderful,
amazing spectacler man their father was, which they won't really get until they
have time to sort of process the grief, and then they'll realize. And
it's really every time you go somewhere and hear someone say, oh, your
dad wasn't it, the feeling you get is so joyous because you know,
you realize what a legacy they left. Yeah, he left a hell of
one. He did something he was special because dressed like the principal day.
He did something once a year in which a ribbon was given out to the
student at the elementary school who dressed like the principle. He also won the
top of the I mean remember that, and then he went up on the
roof at one point. It's just the way he treated every the final um
during the final day they call it field days, wherever the kids get to
play games all day and it's outside, is usually the weather's good, and
he would go His thing was he would fill water balloons and go up on
the top of the school. You know, the school was one level and
or two levels, but it wasn't. He would go up to the roof
and he'd throw water balloons down at the kids and they just screeched and loved
it. I mean, they thought that was just he was. I just
wish everybody could see how he interacted with those kids. And I am so
blessed that my children were able to go through that school with him as the
principle. I mean, their teachers were amazing that he was like the cherry
on top, and it's just you know, and they were with me today.
They went yesterday and they went today, and they really feel it.
They hurt because they loved him, and they're not the only ones everybody,
so all the kids are hurting. Today was the day he was scheduled to
come back to Madare Elementary May first. He was going to take off for
two weeks, and instead the children and their parents go to a funeral.
I mean, I guess there's a lesson. It's yeah. You know,
when I have on Brian tomb I have on a Catholic priest, I often
say, tell me how how this is fair. I got a friend of
mine who has a son that has a brain tumor. I know that when
kids get sick and die. Chris Flanagan would take special time with special needs
children to get them involved in the school, and they meet with their parents
and do whatever. He was a kind of principle that everyone wanted to be.
And I never get an adequate response to the question why would a good
God allow such things like this to occur? Because an elective knee surgery and
all, within two weeks you have a pulmonary embolism, which is a saddle
embolism, which is one that takes over the left and right artery coming out
of the heart that feeds blood to both lungs. It was nonrecoverable the way
it happened, and you have to ask God Almighty at some point, why
allow this to happen. As a judge, you deal with the worst of
the worst, sometimes innocent little victims and those that don't deserve to what happened
to them. And I never get an adequate answer as to why God almondy
would permit such things to happen like a lot like this embolism, and Chris
Flannigan, I just don't know why one would be permitted. I don't know
it is. It's one of those unexplainable things. And that same only the
good young is truly real. And um, you know, I've known some
real sons of guns and they'll live to be a hundred and then people like
Chris or you know, die in their prime and that it's um, it's
just a hard one, especially when there's no warning. I mean, at
least with my father, he was sick. We knew it was coming.
It doesn't make it better, but it certainly gave us some preparation. It's
the you know, it's the hard part is not not being prepared for it
and not expecting it. And um, you know, they're going to need
their community. They're they're certainly you know, they have their family, but
they're certainly going to need their community when everybody has to go back to you
know, real life. And that's when the community really comes in handy.
And gosh, I'd live in a great one. I just I'm so fortunate,
you say in this opinion piece. The pain will eventually subside and the
silver lining will appear. Their husband and father forever touched the lives of an
entire community community where they reside. You going to say, for those who
don't live in our Atmadere, a small We have a small school district,
second to nine. We have one elementary, one middle school, one high
school, and the children tend to be together from start to finish, and
it's a tight community. But my gosh, I mean this is almost an
insubs and Kenji does a great job as the superintendent. He was wonderful.
So I gotta tell you his brother spoke first today and he was poignant,
and I could not get over the composure he had because I had none.
I mean I just fell we all did, everybody there. There wasn't a
dry eye. And he was so amazing, you know, just in the
stories he told about his brother, and then Kenjie spoke and he was amazing,
and then his brother in law spoke and he was It just really takes
a touch to be able to do that and maintain your composure through something like
that, because they were very, very close, and even you know,
our superintendent is close with the principle. I mean, there's just not a
lot of them. We have three and the entire school district. Which is
one of the reasons I wrote sort of wrote this piece. Is two is
to explain to people that I'm sure people are reading the papers saying, why
or why is everybody making a big deal about this principle dying Because he was
the principle there was one, you know, and that's why I was trying
to explain if you don't understand the deer and don't know the size, and
don't realize we have our own school district, which is the best. I
mean, it is phenomenal. It's one of the best in the states.
And it's because of our principles and our teachers and the school board and the
superintendent. And they aren't big. They aren't they aren't expendable. You can't
and we we're gonna, you know, it's gonna be hard to replace them,
and be really really hard for those who want to go to The quir
website has the route of remembrance. In fact, this morning at eight thirty,
there were hundreds of cars who went to all three schools because the kids
in the middle school and the kids in the high school also most of them
came through the elementary when when Chris Flanagan was there and he had an impact,
the tears on the cheeks of the teachers and the little girls holding signs
we'd love you, mister Flanagan, and I hope the family, Danielle,
his lovely wife, and Jack and Maggie and Emma and Molly eventually find peace.
I told Danielle yesterday at Crossroads, I said, may, May,
may you find peace in this life for the next when you're joined again with
Chris. That was her man. He'd loved Austin. He's from Vermont.
There were green ribbons all over Madeira and it was beautiful, wasn't it.
It was neat. I drove the boys over by the elementary school and we
waited and watched, and then we went up to them, and then we
went up to the funeral and it was just when I drove down Miami to
go there and everybody was one in the streets that could not contain myself.
It was. It was emotional, for sure, and we just have to
carry on his speer. I mean, I don't know, Well, what
do you say it there was seven or eight year old who has the confetti
ready when the principal comes back from his minor nie surgery, and the next
instead of doing that, the child is in a funeral procession. I don't
know. You just try to and that's a hard one. I mean,
my kids at least are a little bit older. But it's um there there
is no explanation, and that's what you tell them. I wish I had
an answer. Put these things sometimes happen, and it's tragic and it's awful
for all of us. But you know the good thing is they're in wonderful
hands. These kids in the elementary school, their teachers, I mean,
they wanted to go back the next day because they wanted to be able.
They felt better being with the kids than they did being away from them.
And so they all went back the very next day. And these children are
in in amazing hands, they really are, and they will be able to
comfort them and um explain to them, and uh, you know, they'll
be sad, and I'm sure they'll be tears that they'll help them throw it.
They really will. Don't help each other. Yesterday the card set a
Crossroads and remembrance of Chris Flanagan. May the road rise up to meet you.
May the wind be always at your back, May the sun shine warm
upon your face, and the rains fall softly upon your fields until we meet
again. May God hold you in the palm of his hand. And I
love that. That's the Irish blessing, isn't it. Yes, Yes,
I think it's called the Irish Blessing. I think I love that I saw
that I have that. I kept the card for me yesterday. It's um,
this will be well, this will be felt for a very very long
time with us. This is this is a tough and now I just wish
I could express I mean, at least I could do was to write an
art, you know, to write to kind of express to people. This
person. But he had so many facets. He was just an educator above
all. But um, you know he hearing stories today about how he was.
Someone said one of the I think it was his brother in law,
said, I bet everyone in this room thinks Chris was your best friend.
And it was true. He had a way of making everybody feel so special
and his family and his enjoyment of life. I mean, he truly lived
life the way it should be lived, with faith and with happiness and m
boy, if I can go out that way, I'll be really it'll be
a blessing that that I can live my life like that. I wish every
educator. Yeah, I do too. He was special, all right,
Joe, sure what Joe Leslie gives. Thank you very much. It's good
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bank Ramaswami, Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. I saw it live
about ten eleven days ago when you and Don lemon teed it up on Race
Discrimination. Of course, your book out is fabulous and me it's it's about
It's called a Nation of Victims. Identity politics, the death of merit,
and the path back to excellence. But I tell the American people who didn't
see the debate about racial discrimination, which is one of the themes in your
book as to why you and Don Lemon crossed swords on it, Well,
I was trying to teach Don Lemon from history that he wasn't aware of,
Bill, which is that after the Civil War, turns out, when black
Americans were supposedly granted their rights, they didn't actually get to enjoy those rights
until they got their Second Amendment rights. And the point I was making is
the Second Amendment is fundamental to securing all of the other constitutional rights. Now
that Don Lemon, that made his head explode because for him, civil rights
are good, but Second Amendment is bad. So how could I possibly mix
these things together? And when his head exploded, he unraveled, so he
started yelling at his own producers, he cut off his co host. But
to me, the thing that he said was I couldn't dare to make these
arguments unless I was actually black. And how dare yeah, you know,
what he told me is, whatever ethnicity you are, how dare you explain
to me a black man what it is to live in black skin, which
isn't even what I was talking about. I was talking about Civil War history,
which is factually true. And so anyway, that incident, thankfully the
New York Times reported it was the final straw that led to his firing.
And you know, I say, I think they say life gives you lemons,
you make lemonade. I think that's what we did that day and on
Meet the Press with Chuck Todd and I've been around a little bit longer,
and you've been around the vake Rama Swami. And if somebody would have told
me a few years back, that's suddenly gender dysphoria that used to be a
known mental illness, that of some child is seven, eight, nine,
ten, twelve, fourteen, sixteen years old and thinks that I'm like Bill
Cunningham as a female, I have a male body, but I'm really a
female. That that person would be subjected to some professional assistance, not genital
mutilation or chemical castration, that that child would get some help and down the
road, if I think you would agree, if you're twenty five or thirty
or thirty five or forty years old and you want to pay for some chemical
castration or mutilation of your generals and you're an adult and you pay for it,
have at it. It's a serious mistake. Should not be encouraged.
Something's wrong, something's not quite right. But would you what would you do
right now with the status of America? And you got into an argument with
Chuck Todd about two X chromosomes. You're a woman X and a Y means
you're a man, and that wasn't accepted by NBC News. Explain that one
to me. That's right. That was this morning. I was in Washington,
DC before fly back to Ohio on the set of Meet the Press,
and he said, well, there's a lot of scientific evidence now emerging that
gender isn't as binary as you say it is. I said, no,
I actually, Chuck, it actually is as binary as I say it is.
Two X chromosomes major woman X and Y means you're a man. And
by the way, it is a mental health condition. Is a mental health
disorder if you think that your sex doesn't match your gender. But that doesn't
mean you disrespect that person, especially if they're a kid. Means you help
them, help you to be compassionate. Kids go through tough times in their
lives and it's like, you know, Bill, as if this is a
sad story. But I actually met two young women when I was in New
Hampshire a couple weeks ago, and you know what. Both of them had
had double mass s tectomies, both breasts cut off. One of them had
a hysterectomy, she had her uterus removed. Now she will wishes she could
have children. She never will be able to. They do chemical blockers,
puberty blockers. These young women will never be the same. And yet they
regret the decisions that we adults. I mean I was on in their lives.
I'm saying we as a society allowed them to make and so I think
that's shameful. And so what I would do, is us president, is
pretty simple. I mean, this is not controversial stuff. There isn't a
state in this Union that allows you to get a tattooed by the age of
eighteen, because we don't want people making change to their body that they later
regret. No general mutilation or chemical castration until the age of eighteen. Here,
that's basic stuff, and yet nobody's saying it out loud. Where does
it come from in your view? Because five years this wasn't a thing.
I just googled how many genders are there? If anyone wants to gender,
how many google how many genders are you know what the answer is. I'm
looking at it one hundred and seven. I'm looking at this unbelievable. It's
a throughs. I'm reading a through z. I don't even know what these
things are. Where does this come from? Is it the Foreign Foundation,
MacArthur Foundation. It's a college universe that needs something to anger people because we
have gay men, marriage, all this other stuff that the courts have imposed
upon us. Is it funding? Why do we fight and argue about one
hundredth of one percent that have genderness for you which ought to be treated.
Where does it come from? I'll tell you where it's coming from. It's
coming from the same place as racial wokeism. It's coming from the same place
as the climate religion. It's coming from the same place the covidism comes from.
It's from a vacuum in our soul actually, where we're so hungry for
purpose and meaning in this country right now, at a time when the things
that used to fill that void, from faith to patriotism to hard work to
family bill, these things have disappeared, that leaves a vacuum in its wake,
and that is when poison begins to fill the void. It's like they
say, you know, if you have a hole the size of God in
your heart and God does not fill it, something else will instead. And
the same can be said of a nation and a national identity we lack.
That's actually what's going on, and so it's always transgenderism to climatism. It's
going to be something else that fills it unless we fill it with the real
thing. And that's what I'm running for president on is reviving American national identity
is one of those true identities that can fill that void of purpose and meaning
in our country. For fat Ramaswami, according to polling, twenty five percent
of high school students today believe they are LGBTQ plus twenty five percent, and
the real number biologically historically it's been one percent, two percent gay, whatever
it might be. Why does twenty five percent of kids now believe they're part
of the LGBTQ plus community. Why it's because they're hungry for meaning, and
we have we teach them that you satisfy your hunger for meaning with this skin
deep genetic stuff. There's also good evidence that every time a kid at a
school says, oh, I'm born in the wrong body and I'm up there,
ja are different than my biological sex, ten other kids didn't say the
same thing. We've also made it cool. We've made it a cultural victimhood
narrative, where once you claim your place on the victimhood hierarchy, that becomes
a currency. That becomes how you get ahead, how you get into college,
how you tell your victimhood tails that earn you followers on social media.
So I think we've turned victimhood into a currency. We've made it coveted,
and then that's why people are flocking to it, because human beings respond to
incentives. So I think that we've gone from being a nation centered on victimhood.
I think we need to go back to being a nation centered on excellence.
I think excellence is unifying, Bill, and I think you understand this
better than most. That's what we're missing is the unapologetic pursuit of excellence.
American national identity revived this idea that you're an individual, not some member of
a plate tectonic plate of group identity, that you have a family, that
you're a citizen of a nation that you believe in God. The values this
grounded this nation. That's so we need to revive about public schools. I'm
looking at public schools their social promotion. You don't pass. When I was
in high school, if I didn't pass the particular classes, whatever it might
be, you might fail, which means you stay as a sophomore, or
say as a sixth grader. That doesn't happen today, via a Ramaswami,
you simply pass along. I've had teachers tell me that I can't have a
fourteen year old and the third grade. It doesn't work. We keep passing
them. There's no grades anymore. The sat the Act has gone. This
is part of the deal. And when I listen to Chuck Todd, he
advocated that children get their genitals mutilated or chemically castrated to prevent them from committing
suicide. So that means if you don't agree with him on chemical castration or
physical castration, you're advocating the killing of children. Explain that one. Well,
they're using that as a form of blackmail to get people to submit to
this new call, and I refuse to let them do it. And this
is why Bill, I go to take great pains to go on set,
to go in enemy curse, to be able to make these arguments and win.
I did that with Don Lemon, I did it with Chuck Todd today
I will continue to do it because if I'm asking the people of this country
to allow me to represent America across the table from Shi Jinping, then I'm
not going to be scared of Don Lemon or Chuck Todd, or CNN or
NBC or college campuses where I travel either. That's I think what it means
to actually have a spine. I'm the first millennial ever to run for US
president as a Republican. I take that responsibility seriously. We're doing this for
the next generation, and that is why I do what I'm doing, and
that's what we're going to keep doing for the rest of this campaign, speaking
truth, going to the other side, and yes, you said it,
We're gonna win and by thirty seconds remaining. Lastly, you've made some comments
about Donald Trump. The Trumpster has said no debates. I'm not going to
debate. I'm not going to get on the platform, was vaveak Ramaswami.
I'm not gonna do it. What are your feelings about that. I mean,
you know, I love what he did for this country, but I'm
gonna call him spade when I see it. I think he's scared facing off
with me on the debate stage, and I don't you know, I don't
blame him. But at the same time, the same way that Trump actually
challenged the existing incumbents in twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen, now he's sounded a
lot more like the establishment President Biden says he wanted to debate people in his
own party. I think Donald Trump is better than that. So I think
that he's a little bit he's a little bit nervous. That's all right.
We're gonna get him on that debate stage. That's gonna be good for the
country. It's gonna be good for him, it's gonna be good for the
Republican Party. That's what's gonna happen. I don't think he's a coward,
although I do think he's a little nervous, and that's why he said it.
Author of Nation of Victims. What is your website? If any for
the American people want to get involved? Twenty four vii Veek twenty twenty four
dot com Check it out volunteer, donated dollar or whatever it is is a
grassroots movement and I appreciate the support. God bless America. Vivek Rama Swammy,
thank you very much, thank you. Let's continue line becomes available,
you know the routine eight six six six four seven seven three three seven.
I watched him with Chuck Todd and I watched him with Don Lemon. Some
have said some of the commentary from Chris Licht, who is, as you
know, the guy that runs CNN supposedly cable News network, you know,
CNN, cable News Network, that that was a final straw that he called
vivek Rama Swammy a liar, would not allow him to speak. When Poppy
Harlowe wanted to kind of jump in there a little bit and make a few
comments, Don Lemon shut her up. And uh, I don't know how
you invite someone to come on your show and not permit permit them to get
their message out, whatever that message is. If you listen to me anytime
for the past seventeen years on Sunday nights and almost forty years on seven hundred
WLW, what I try to do with a guest, The guest means they
come into my house. And although I get contempt a little bit contemptuous at
times, I want each guest to come on to have their voice be heard
because I'm on a lot, and I want you, as a beloved listener,
to hear a different viewpoint which may cause you to challenge your own thinking.
I often will have someone on that I disagree with. Vake Rama Swammy
is not one of them. And the reason is it allows you to hear
a different viewpoint than my own. And secondly, it allows you to test
your own set of principles against someone else's, to re examine how you're thinking
about a topic. Topic or two is something out character? So on Meet
the Press. When Chuck Todd said to Vavake Rama Swammy, let's face it,
you have a choice. It's it's a choice, and the choice is
to allow children to be either chemically or surgically castrated, or suicide is committed.
It's like what, Well, the facts do not so indicate. According
to the CDC, the largest percentage a number of suicides are happening among white
females who are teenagers, and in fact there's less among those that are gender
dysphoric, which is a mental condition. And I don't want any child under
the age of eighteen to do anything to themselves of a life ordering character without
thoroughly thinking about the possibilities down the road. So for fake Ramaswami, I'll
meet the press. It was unbelievable to hear a so called broadcaster more as
say that to advocate children getting their genitals mutilated or chemically castrated to prevent that
from occurring is encouraging suicide. What and whatever any one gets into debate with
someone on the radical left about gender dysphoria, either agree with their position on
the subject matter, or you want to kill them. Those are the choices.
For the last two hundred of two hundred and five years, gender dysphoria
has been recognized as a psychiatric condition. If you are a male or a
female and you think some other person is lurking inside your body and that you're
different than what biologically and scientifically you are, that is a condition that one
might need some assistance on. Gender dysphoria for nine of our history has been
known as a DSM five characterizes a mental health disorder. If I'm somehow build
Cunningham and I think I'm Barbara Cunningham or Bethanny Cunningham or Beth Cunningham. There's
some woman lurking inside my body. I'd probably need some help, help me,
help me, help me, and especially if I'm fourteen years old to
have the medical establishment go after these kids to make money as particularly despicable.
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Hello, Hello, quiet, and I'm broadcasting nine segment. Please get
us into the Stude Report. I also have Officer Fredford two standing by about
the memorial ride for Sonny Kim. But first of all, get us into
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Then we're gonna go to Fred for two. Willie the Red's five game win
street came to an end yesterday, losing to the A's tonight they had They're
there south of Air there against the Padres six oh five lands and sports talk
and eight forty with the RNL carrier's insight pitch more coming up here in a
few minutes. Hold on right there, let's go to Fred for two.
Real quickly. Officer Fred for twot, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.
Badge number P three ninety six. Served twenty seven and a half years
as a police officer. He was murdered in twenty fifteen, I think on
June the nineteenth, and he of course passed. And once again, please
tell us about Sonny Kim and tell us about the fallen officer Memorial ride coming
on May the twentieth. Okay, Willie, I've also got Duyne Earths on
here. He's a deputy. We're co founders. Are those regulators? Yeah,
we're we're going to have the ride on the twentieth of May. We
normally have between four and six seven hundred motorcycles there. Um, it's going
to be the last year that we do it. We're going out to the
Gate of Heaven and back to the city. Harley Davidson who was sponsoring it
for us, Um, we've but that's the same the same place we've always
gone to, but the route is different this year. We will we will
have given away over one hundred thousand dollars when this rides over with. And
where does the money go, Officer, it goes to well, we Originally
we're going to give it to the Kim family, but they didn't want it,
so that we give it to their the people that they wanted us to
give it to, like Lighthouse for Children. Um, we give it to
the Shield Ohio Cops, different different organizations that take care of fallen officers.
And how well did you know Officer Sonny Kim? I didn't know him,
but I think my co founder did, Dwayne go ahead, Dyne, Dwyne,
please give us an update on Sonny Kim. As far as to go
on, I knew Sonny as a martial artist. I own a more shorts
school and I met Sonny a few times doing martial arts. Um. I
actually never before he passed away. He and I talked several times, but
I never knew he was in law enforcement. We never really discussed law enforcement,
even though we're both in it. Um we were. We just discussed
martial arts all my dealings with him. He was a very very nice man
that genuinely um nice and definitely a very respectful person. And as far as
this memory, thank god, I believe this is the last police officer in
Cincinnati who died in the line of duty. I can't recall of another one.
And this is an attempt really to remember what he meant to the to
the tri State, what he meant to Cincinnati. Parts of I seventy one
is named after him. And once again, Police Officer Fred for two.
For those listening May twentieth, this coming work. Can I send individuals who
care about such things as most of us do, about how they can be
involved, Well, they can come to the ride on the twentieth townsin City
Harley Davidson. Or they can go to our website, which is regulators l
EMC dot com and they can register for the ride, or donate there or
buy a T shirt or whatever they want to do. But regulators l EMC
dot com would be the best place to go. Officer fredfort two, How
much more time do you have to serve in the thin blue line between democracy
and anarchy? How much more time do you have? Well, Willie,
I did thirty years and retired in June to fourteen as a sergeant at Miami
Township. And I you know, everybody asked me, did you are you
retired? I say, well, I'm retired, but mostly I survived and
it's getting really bad out there. Yeah, you have experience. I have
a guest coming up tomorrow the next day about the disrespect for law enforcement,
disrespect for authority, and it is getting worse. An officer, Dwayne Earnst,
what agency are you with. I'm with the Claremar kind of Shaff's office,
and I'm still actively working. I've got about two to four years depending
on when I decided to retire, before I can retire. But I think,
I think the biggest thing in today's law enforcement is just a lack of
respect in general. It's not necessarily towards just law enforcement. I mean,
we definitely have it, but I think it's a lack of respect for people.
Now just breakdown of important elements. I had this guest on a couple
of weeks ago, that twenty five years ago, nineteen ninety eight. The
Wall Street Journal every twenty five years does a poll, and in nineteen ninety
eight, seventy percent of Americans were patriotic, They had good feelings about the
country. Something like seventy percent also wanted to get married at some point in
their life. These are eighteen to thirty five year olds. About eighty percent
wanted to have children. A large chunk of those believed in God in one
sense or another, by whatever first name you want to call him, and
another large sense wanted to donate time. And eighty percent respected law enforcement and
eighty percent respected the military. Twenty five years later, the polls conducted again
in twenty twenty three, and every one of those categories is upside down.
It's just the opposite. And I don't know how we turn it around,
but I know we must turn it around. It starts with the family unit,
Willie. Yeah, it starts, you know, it starts. I
mean, I don't want to get political, but you know it started in
the White House with Obama I think years ago, and you know it went
downhill from there. We've noticed it ever since, and the respect for law
enforcement has just declined at an astronomical rate. And I just hope that the
PENSLA swings a back event. I hope. I hope at some point we
got a fun police. At some point we have to keep qualified immunity.
No. One tenth to one percent of the cops are bad cops, but
over ninety nine percent simply trying to go home safely, don't know to her
or kill anybody. What they want to do is go home and serve the
community. And right now we don't pay the cops enough. Right now,
they're too easy to sue. Right now. It is uh, snitches get
stitches and that kind of crap. But anyway, I'm being too political.
I hate to be political, you know that. But once again, I
think there's bad people one every absolutely, I mean even lawyers. Even lawyers
can be absolute. Absolutely. I don't know about lawyers. But once again,
what's the website, Fred? For two? What's the website? It's
Regulators l E MC meaning the Law Enforcement Motorcycle Club Regulators MC dot com.
All right, both of you find gentlemen, thank you for your service.
God bless you, and God bless the soul of Sonny Kim. Thank you
very much. Thank you. Let's continue segment. I'm sorry for the interruption.
They'll probably will you gotta get Sonny Kim in there. Man, great,
great policeman. Remember the procession that went by us, Yes, when
we could see outside, thousands of thousands of people there. And I visited
as great a few times at Gaya Heaven Cemetery to the right of the priest,
and it's not visited as much now as it used to be. But
I will always remember him, having never met him, but the kind of
person we wanted to be a Cup would have been, Sonny kim seg Please
continue, Will David beat Goliath last night twice? And the NHL Stanley Cup
Playoffs Florida stunts Boston and overtime four to three. The Bruins said, NHL
records and wins at sixty five and points at one hundred and thirty five,
and the regular season they go home. Let me ask you this question segment.
Yeah, the greatest team during the regular season in NBA history was the
twenty fifteen Golden State Warriors. Yes, they play in the Final US against
a Cleveland Cavaliers team who won Cleveland. You might recall in twenty oh seven,
the team with the greatest record in the history of football the NFL was
the New England Patriots. They played in the Super Bowl the New York Giants
who lost. Who won the Giant to win. In twenty two or so,
the Seattle Mariners had the best record since nineteen oh three during the regular
season, led by Lou Panella. What happened to them? El So,
if you have the best record in football, you lose the best record in
baseball? You lose. The best record in basketball, you lose, and
the best record in hockey. You're you're hoping you're watching on TV. But
how about the Seattle Kraken then up ended the reigning Stanley Cup champion Colorado Avalanche
and their series. We got a crisis everywhere. And how about Steph Curry
shot the ball yesterday like you did, fifty point fifty. Olden State will
now take on the Lake Its who do you like in that matchup? Well,
the Warriors got to get their act together on the road, and you
know, Lebron James is like, you know who knows. Let's see in
golf, Willie, how about this? Tony Fenwe won the Mexico Opened at
twenty four under by three shots over John rom and Brandon Wu. There's on
Twitter. There's video of him four hours after the win. He's caddying for
his kids on a par three golf course, one bag on each arm.
Tony Fenwe, Tony Feenews caddying for his kids. Also horse racing coming up.
The draw for Saturday's Kentucky Derby coming up at two o'clock. The Mike
Battaglia show there and then tickets are on sale right now for the John Barrett
Western and Southern twenty twenty three Open sent for August at the Lender Tennis Center
in Beautiful Mason. Get tickets at wsopen dot com. And then, well,
I talked to your friend David Young. Yes, county commissioner in Warren
County. Yes, he's coming on Wednesday to talk about what happened. You
might recall a billionaire in South Carolina. Yes, spot the tournament. That's
what I heard, and most were saying it's going to South Carolina. But
David Young commission has the insights scoop as to why it is staying at King's
Island. I think the lawmakers gave him like twenty two million dollars to the
for Mason Curry for the state, and Warren County's putting some jack in.
Of course, Warren County is rich. All they do is write checks.
They don't have to borrow any money. Also, Willie, we say this
is this guy's got to be our citizen of the day in your favorite sport
of golf. We say congratulations to David Erdie at a Losantaville country club.
David Erdie, he shot a sixty one impossible nine under nine birdies nine parts,
beat the record held by Byron Nelson. H The record was sixty two
by Nelson in the nineteen forty one Ohio Open final round. What eighty two
year old record broken by David Erdie. He shot sixty one a Lisaneville artie
birdie one, five, eight, nine, eleven, thirteen, fourteen,
sixteen and eighteen impossible twenty eight puts And who's that guy again? His record
he broke Byron Nelson had the sweetest swing this side of Ben Ogan. Thirty
one on the front, nine and thirty on the back. That's getting it
done right, dere So, I play Lisaneville with Mike McCall. Try to
get a hold of him because he's our citizen of the day and is he
a pro? You may want to you may want to challenge him. If
he gives me enough strokes, I'll play him. I play Lisaneville with Dean
Gregory, Wayne Carucci, Johnny Kraft and Mike McCall. Doesn't get a better
net on an afternoon about a match up, Paul, So, David Erdie,
you're a citizen of the day. Where is he? Is he a
pro? An amateur? What? How do you know? I guess he
just went out and plays golf. He's a member there at Losantaville. There's
a picture of him right there. Let me see him. I'm showing it
to you with with a scorecard. Have me seeing Mike McConnell laid that on
me this morning. Wow, he looks like he's fit. David Erdie Lisanaville
members shoots a sixty one Byron Nelson. You beat a record by Byron eighty
two years ago, nineteen forty one. Now, I guess I don't know
that I've been to I think I've been to Losanavilva. Never played in there
many time. But how how's that? How's that course? Fast greens?
Every put is for your life? Well maintained? Number one? The greens
are slick ist snot on a doorknob. Well, I'm talking about he solved
them because nine birdies, nine pars e r d y erdie correct. He's
our citizen of the day. It's like Arkell, Well, your name's Rtie.
He can play golf and he did that day. Behind him, we
got to ask him some questions. Sixty one nine underdone and Tony Fiennale's canning
for his children four hours after he wins, what about a million and something
dollars? I think two and a half. Millo pretty good Mexican, a
lot, a lot of pasos. So Saga has added in sports, Yes,
coming up after two o'clock today, we have Attorney James Bogan. New
information about the murder of Caitlin Markham is coming out. Caitlin Markham. Of
course, her fiance said he loved her so much he wanted to kill her.
Now that's real love, right, don't love me, in fact,
hate me if you don't mind. But James Bogan has handled about fifty murder
cases. It's gonna come up and talk about this, so we'll see what
happens. Segment has added in sports, how's the Bengals do? And he
got a pretty good grade from Melk everything that I saw, Willie that the
Bengals got good grades on their draft. Um, mister, the boys are
coming in next week. The I think next Friday is a rookie mini camp.
So I think the Bengals have got some good players coming in. Unlike
other deals, everything signed up, you don't you don't hold out anymore.
You just correct slots yourself in its correct. What about now? The next
the next shoe to drop. As you know who number nine contract? I
mean Carson Palmer. No, I'm talking about JB. Who mister Burrow who
get it done? Look a little Don Jackson, get it done, Troy,
get it done, Elizabeth. Talk to the love Duke Tobin. Duke
Tobin. But the old man Mark, you know who really really runs the
contracts down there, the assassin. Nope, Mark Dufner really yep. So
Mike Brown talks the Duffner. Correct, But Mike Brown is an assassin when
it comes to contracts. He's he's gonna get it done. And you know,
Hope, Joe, I mean, sign all these guys up, and
let's go take a look at the contract. Lamar Jackson has add a mill
or two. Get her done, correct, sign a five year deal,
five year deal and keep back you then maybe if you're good and five more
years to ching, go back to the pay window and get a deal.
Deal. But get the lovely Elizabeth involved, and I think the deal deal.
But talk to the assassin. I'm sure he beats. They're talking right
now, Willie. I think they get another wouldn't you like to be like
five minutes or ten minutes that those talks. How much money did h Lamar
Jackson get to sign his name? Wasn't like one hundred million dollars. But
if he's still talking to h Campe signed the deal in Florida, do you
think he bought Think he brought his own pen. I'd used me a bick
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Willie at Utter of the Red Legs in Beautiful San Diego tonight in Elite and
go Cyclones in Game six of their series tomorrow night. So the messages don't
have the best record in history in your sport during the regular season, that's
what the Reds are shooting for. Talking to the Bruins right talk today,
unbelievable, and he talked to the Patriots Seattle talk to Golden State, the
Golden State team that Lebron beat I lost like five times today or something like
that. I mean, it was unbelievable. Seventy three and nine, is
that correct? I had to be. It had to be. It was
incredible. And then they were up three one in the finals. That's what
Boston was and against Florida. How do you lose to the barn to row
to the to the greatest team that's been down the pike in years? And
then and then the defending champs are out. Don't have the same night,
don't have the best record, beat bad maybe the maybe the Seattle Cracking that's
an expansion team from a few years ago. Beat him impossible segment, Get
me out of the students report Attorney James Bogan coming up about Caitlin Markham,
William Honor at the Red Legs and Padres tonight. We leave you with the
immortal words of the student report. Ringy dingy and here I come. It's
the creeper, ringy dinghy, here I come. Okay, what's out about?
I don't know. I don't know. Let's continue and never stop.
We simply continue. Bill Cunningham, the Great American at your home at the
Red Legs playing tonight in San Diego, and they need to win at least
one game tonight beginning tonight tomorrow and then on Wednesday early on news radio seven
hundred w of somewhere in San Diego. And they won two out of three
against Oakland. By the way, Oakland stinks, but nonetheless of the reds
are arising. Plus later on we're going to have reports from Rocky Boyman on
the Bengal Draft, etc. But one thing we continue to follow is about
twelve years ago, Caitlyn Markham was murdered and it appeared that her so called
fiance, John Carter, may be the interested party who committed the act.
But James Bogan is a criminal defense attorney and the last time he was on
a few weeks ago, he said that possibly there's more evidence than we know
about, including the poetry the Prose of John Carter, in which he fantasized
about killing his fiance. But of course James Bogan said, I bet the
search warrant to get more information has some pretty good stuff in it. Joining
you and I now is that same James Bogan? James Bogan, welcome again
to the Bill Cunningham Show. And James, what's in the search warrant that
may be indicative of guilt or perhaps indications of innocence. Well, here's the
first indication that goes in the guilt column. As you might recall, her
body was found wrapped in a dark colored sheeting material that's often used for landscaping
and a role of this material was found during the search. Now that's not
completely this positive of guilt on its own. It's something you buy in bulk.
Can you keep a roll of it when you buy it? For example,
that night that the news broke, I was with a colleague at the
Jimmy. He said, Hey, I have that stuff. That doesn't mean
I'm guilty of murder. But at the same time, it's one piece of
the puzzle, and another piece of the puzzle. Bill is that In the
two days after Kaitlin Markham disappeared, in the police interview John Carter, they
noticed three vertical scratch marks on the left side of his neck. At the
time, he said it was from an electric razor, but then he later
said he didn't remember where he got them from. And just on a personal
note there, I've had an electric razor. I'm kind of hard pressed to
see how that could hold any water. But to say anything more, I
would need to see a picture of the scratches and see the razor. And
friends who were with Carter and Markham on the night of the disappearance before she
disappeared, said he didn't they didn't notice any scratches on his neck. Now
it's one other thing. There's a mention of Hard's behavior in the days after
Kaitlin Markham disappeared, where he repeatedly would refer to her in the past tense
and yeah, that's kind of odd, and instead of saying I hope we
find her, I mean, I don't know exactly what's said, but god,
she was a great fiance. If he has had stuff like that,
but yeah, and then well more than he might have deserved. But he
also made inconsistent statements over the years to the police concerning the last time he
saw Kaitlin Markham and what he did in the hours after. But there's also
some eyewitness testimony mentioned in there, because it turns out the night that she
disappeared, there are two fifteen year old boys sneaking out after they were at
that Sacred Heart festival up the road. This was about two in the morning.
They sneaked out and they described seeing two vehicles, a red Ford Focus
that turned out to be registered to John Carter matches the records and his own
admission, and a blue Saturn driving from the direction of Caitlin Markham's home with
their lights off to the home of John Carter's mother where he lived, and
the red fort focus goes in the garage. It's in there, as said
in the warrant from five to fifteen minutes, then emerges and then they both
drive back in the direction of Caitlin Markham's home with their lights off. And
there were also some other things that add up in the column of doesn't help
the defense. The body was found basically on the route from John Carter's mother's
home in Fairfield to his father's house in Indiana. And then finally, the
other thing I thought was significant is that Caitlin Markham's friends had told police that
she had told them she was unhappy with her relationship with John Carter, that
he was concerned about his drug use and him watching pornography, and uncomfortable with
some of the sexual activity he wanted to do with her. And the friend
also said that Carter was jealous and possessive, and others reported that Markham had
said that she felt trapped and wasn't attracted to him anymore. James Bogan,
as far as there's all kinds of different sheathing plastic. Some is used for
landscaping, some might be on a roof, some might be in the package.
Something are you saying the search warrant when they seized the sheathing from John
Carter's possession was at the same gauge, the same caliber, the same color,
the same manufacturer found at the scene where the remains of the body were
located. They said it was similar because they said black or dark colored,
because that sheathing material that they found with the body, obviously that had been
in the ground for a while, right, And basically they were looking for
something that at least similar. I don't think they were looking for it as
like a DNA smoking gun, but more is a piece of the puzzle because
it had been outside for a long time, from the time it was placed
there to till the time it was located. And I find the scratches on
the neck illustrative. For many years, I use an electric razor. Now
now I use razors that are typically a straight edge razors. It is damn
near impossible with an electric razor to leave three vertical marks on your neck.
Is that fair to say? It's difficult, but possible. That did.
That's been my experience, Bill, And also for those listening now, how
many fiance's males that write prose and poetry about the killing of his fiance.
Explain that to the American people, that's not something a normal person writes.
In my opinion, no mildly. I mean, how many people sit there
and say, how can I kill you? You can't? You're right about
what? Nothing? And deep down I love her. You ought to kill
her, but I love her. She must die, And then talking about
oh no, what have I done? What do I do? I'll bury
the body, and then talking saying stuff like I slipped your wrist as a
key to your heart, which was written on a door. And one thing
that was interesting was that the door from the basement bedroom was one of the
items seized. So he wrote on a door that this is the loving fiance.
They're both at this point. I think she's eighteen or nineteen. He's
in his early twenties. Thirteen years ago. Well, what did he imagine
writing on a door the following What did he write on the door? I
slit your wrist with a key to your heart And there were cut marks on
the wrists. Yeah, well he finally found the bones. Also, there's
some evidence that he took three polygraph examinations into getting deceptive responses. Of course,
explain why that is unusual, and you can't make it and you can't
require a defendant do I take a polygraph? But seemingly with the place,
he did explain why one would be taken. Have you ordered Have you ever
ordered one taken for a client of yours? You've handled dozens of murder cases.
How unusual is it to take a polygraph and then fail it? It's
pre unusual if you're not guilty. I mean, the one time I did
do a polygraph with a client, it was with a child rate case,
and yet didn't help us. But at the same time, they're not admissible
in court, so I'll be honest, I didn't really give those much thought.
They're good as an investigative tool for problem cause, kind of like a
portable breath test in a DUI case. That's not admissible in court, but
it can be a good in the field investigative tool. That's where where I
put polygraphs. It's just one of those things that makes the officers go.
He's scheduled to stand trial in June of twenty twenty four, but he also
posted bond. How unusual is it for a criminal defendant, with all this
evidence around him to have a one million dollar bond that he post. Isn't
that somewhat unusual? He's out free right now. Yeah, that's very unusual.
In my experience. It's extremely rare to see somebody who's under indictment for
murder out on jail for bond. It looks to me like his family went
to a bondsman. Now I'm not sure what the family's financial situation is,
but when you put up the right collateral to the bondsman, that gives them
what they need. Basically that adds up to one hundred thousand dollars or so.
Then he's able to do his part on his end to get the bonding
company to back it. And of course, if John Carter jumps bail,
then the bail bondsman he's on the hook. And what it is the bondsman
wal charge one hundred thousand dollars is a fee to take the risk. And
then the bondsman's got to be certain and at least in his mind if Carter
f scounds that he can has come up with a million dollars to pay into
the court. And so that whether it's Bob Shropshire or someone else, the
hundred thousand dollars up front is the fee puts out more or less in his
pocket, and then he keeps an eye on the guy, and if he
does skip, he's got to come up with the other million. But then
the person, the family of John Carter has got to make Shropshire or whatever,
whoever it is, putting up the bondsman that they got a million dollars
to reimburse. But if you don't reimburse, the bondsman's on the hook for
the million, but one hundred thousand dollars the fee. That means you got
to come up with nine hundred thousand dollars more. And they keep an eye
on him, which is why the dog. The dog was located in a
y. He always is a bondsman, and in that case you weren't looking
for people. If you could produce him, you get your money back.
If not, whoever, the bondsman has got to pay a million dollars.
And the judge easily could have said two million or three million, and that
likely would not have been overturned on appeal anyway. So the judge just kind
of probably said a million dollars, knowing that John Carter couldn't make the bond
to get out Unfortunately he had family members that could could collateralize. That is
that more or less what we're talking about what I just went over, Yeah,
that is. I mean, in my experience, when a judge sets
a million dollars bond, they're typically not anticipating the person making the bond.
But at the same time, though the judge, he can't just raise the
bond just because he feels the kid. At this point, John Carter would
have to buy late the condition the bond in some way for him to have
a legal reason to jack up his bond. In fact, I'm told someone
in the clerk's office called the judge's office and said a bond's being posted for
John Carter. And the judge said, what a million dollars? And legally
you can't just jack it up for no reason. You have to have a
failure the defended to do something. But it is shocking. I can't you
could count on one hand the number of people charged with murder, especially this
character who has dementimous assets. His family must add a bunch that actually could
post a million dollars? Have you on all the cases you've had and the
hundreds of cases that I've had, I've not had one client post a million
million dollars bond. Have you? I don't believe I have no, No,
quite unusual. All right, we gotta run James Bogan. But I
guess the evidence the search warrant gave the plastic which is indicative of guilt,
but not despositive. But you put it all together with all the other pieces
of evidence, it's pretty clear and we'll see what occurs. But James Bogan,
once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, and
may justice prevail. Thank you, Bill. Always a privilege, God bless
America. That's James Bogan, one of the eminent criminal defense attorneys in the
Tri State. So let's continue with more if a line becomes available five one,
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around Danielle and the kids for the rest of their life. I also wanted
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It's a police chief today, Schlee. He's retiring after twenty six years,
more than a quarter of a century of loyal service to deer Park. It's
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such a great job for so long, and after twenty six years of loyal
and good service, Schlee decided to hang it up and do what he's got
to do and take some retirement and have some other issues. But Mike Schlee
has been there for more than a quarter century and today is his last day
after twenty six years. So if you know Mike, give him a call
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wonderful place. So congratulations the Chief Mike Schlee on a life well led,
read quite well, and thank you, thank you, thank you for the
service that you've made. Today's his last day of loyal service. And when
we had on those raising money for Sonny Kim police Officer Fred Fatout and also
Officer Dwayne Ernst and Claremont County, I think of a call made out of
Madisonville that a man with a gun in the street. Sonny Kim was not
scheduled to work that shift. Work that day he was off, but he
wanted to make a few extra dollars, so he signed up to take an
extra shift. The call went out, man with a gun and in Madisonville,
Sonny Kim shows up in uniform in a police car. And there was
an African American woman in the middle of the street who was the mother of
the defendant, the murderer. She did not know what he was about to
do. He was walking behind her. And the murderer is the one that
dialed nine one and man with a gun because he wanted to kill a cop.
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the rest is history. And he had on his vest. He came out
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Sonny Kim. The bullet entered a quarter of an inch above his vest.
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Sonny Kim was murdered. I believe that was the last cop in the line
of duty in the city of Cincinnati who was killed. Also a note that
Jack Crumley reported that Officer Unwin in Springfield Township was going about eighty four miles
an hour or so when it lost control of his vehicle and an innocent civilian
was the other side, a fifty year old man who was killed. And
so we live in we live in difficult times. Let's continue with more,
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Hello, Hello, Hello, quiet, and I'm broadcasting you know Rock.
The segment is noticeable. Buy his absence where nothing sitting say, I
can't ass him say anyway, I guess he's coming in, but offers somebody
more important. I have some questions for you. Fire away baseball, Lou
Pinala, Seattle Mariners. Yes, the best regular season record in baseball history.
What happened in the playoffs was not successful. How about the seven New
England Patriots undefeated, untied, unscored on playing the Super Bowl against the Giants.
What happened? They lost and I couldn't have loved it anymore. How
about the NBA all time regular season record Golden State. They were seventy three.
They've been him by one, seventy three and nine. They go to
the finals against the Calves and Lebron James. What happened? Destiny intervened?
How about the Boston Bruins all times say season, regular season, most wins,
most points? What happened to them? And so you're telling me now
that if you have the best record in football, basketball, baseball, and
throw in hockey or throw ins like Indiana State undefeated, untied, unscored on
national championship game, what happened? And UNLV with the great teams they had
the running rebels. They come to the part Johnson, Stacy Augman, what
happened? So don't have a good record in the regular seasons. I think
there's something to be said about not peaking too early sometimes a couple of them
things. You can peak too early where you're you know, you're winning all
these regular season games, and by that time you're starting to be on the
downfall. The other side is maybe you spend too much time and attention getting
on the regular Season's right? What happened when you sleeping? What happened?
No things are rocketed? Roland in the ducer and Willie don't worry about it.
What's happened? I'm not worried about the sport. Duty to be here,
well, I'm I'm here down. There's only one team that got rid
of the curse, Darren Park High School twenty eighteen. We go undefeated,
untied. I'm leaving now. They're playing the Columbus Nubians, the Nubians Afrocentric
High School, and Darren Park won it all undefeated, untied, unscored on
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brasil and two and one's the finals, Marshall twenty six, number eight Notre
Dame twenty one. Let's repeat that one more time. Twenty six to twenty
one. Marshall wins at Notre Dame see Dirr Park beat the Afrocentric Nubians to
win it all segment, your reaction plus the Then they put you on TV.
They said, who's that old man in that old jersey that they got
running around you? Right? I was thought that Columbus police are gonna come
after you in my nineteen sixty six Derr Park practice jersey and saw that.
I wonder if we got a tape of that. We do not. It's
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not good for them, but they have hit thirty five home runs the Reds
nineteen Since twenty thirteen. The Reds are eight and twenty one at Petco Park.
Now, Rock, what about the draft? I'm about talking about beer,
I'm talking about football. You. I got a few fact toys for
you. I could use facts. I do like say, I come here
with facts and I'm on time. I was in the insdream. It was
busy in the instream and was two minutes late. So what to it two
minutes in d Well, you can't handle it can't handle. I'm glad the
Rock was here. Which which conference had the most players drafted? With?
You know what? The Philadelphia Bulldogs They just changed their name apparently. Huh,
what are we talking about? They picked ten Georgia Bulldogs right? Oh?
Yes, yes, so the Philadelphia Eagles are now the Philadelphia Bulldogs.
Next level thinking, say, you went right over my head there for a
second. I gotta pay attention. Rock around here and just sent me a
texting Notre Dame could be competitive in the Mack chiefs. Now is the Mac?
Number one answer my questions? Had the most players drafted? I say
the Mac? Pretty easy? Sec How many ten twenty six, sixty two
ten. No, that was Philadelphia. Sorry, going well, SEC had
sixty two players drafted. Okay, was just down from sixty five and twenty
twenty and twenty number two Big ten. Big ten had fifty five. Which
school of the Big ten had the most players? Dragon, Yes, with
nine? What the Ohio State only had six? What that's because carry combs
and there anymore? Correct? And then there was a significant drop off ACC
thirty three, Big twelve, twenty nine, Pac twelve, Notre Dame Macy
had I think for Carl Brooks from Bowling Green and a couple of others.
Notre Dame had three. But what about did your school have? Oh,
sorry, Xavier didn't play football? Well, but you're saying how many players
you guys hit you didn't play either, Well, Xavier's gonna get football back
then, not scheduled? Yes, no, no, nobody being the mayor,
they're gonna hear you know had you know, cuttingham Field for the football
you know, you see it is one of the founding members of the back
correct, you see? So which school had the most players drafted? It's
a tie for first. Georgia was one and Alabama, Yes, she had
ten. How about this factory the twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two Georgia
defense. So or let's just say the twenty twenty one Georgia defense. Okay,
including last year and this year, fourte players drafted off that defense exactly.
Think so backups on that defense are now going to play football in the
National Football League. Those are factoids that cannot be refuted. At fifty four
point four million viewers and watch they've drafted three days. Well, because I've
said this every year, but rarely in life do you get to see someone's
dream come true live in person. Right if somebody gets a promotion to the
job they've always wanted, or they get to go to the law firm or
whatever they you know, you don't get to see that. You get to
see a player, a human being, get the phone called boom. Your
life has changed forever. And the tears, the emotion, the families,
the dads, the moms, the ants, and everybody's that was involved in
getting that person there, You see it lot. What about the quarterback from
UK It was all urinated off will Levis. He did not Will Levis,
will Levis, he did not even up He went to Tennessee in the second
round. If well, if you'd listen to me on my draft coverage,
I didn't think he was gonna go in the first time because he third like
twenty three interceptions in two years. You can't do that, can I have
a ton of success? Those are kind of guys, open guys. I
mean, had the strongest arms, athletic call that, but it just didn't
translate it though. That's playing since Night Hills League. Here, so here,
here, I got a clip. I'm gonna play it for you here.
Um, this is there's a running back named Deuce Vaughan. Okay,
played to Kansas State. Amazing player. Um, he's like five five,
one eighty, but he's like you can't tackle because he's super tiny. Right.
His dad is a scout for the Cowboys. Okay, and uh,
go ahead and play the clip. This is his dad calling Deuce Vaughn.
Hey, buddy's going He's going good. This is dad. My phone wasn't
working. Look at here, man, you want to come to work with
me next week? Draft? I got somebody want to speak. You've got
somebody who speaking. I don't know when I've been speaking for everybody that's really
in the heart of the Dallas Cowboys. Just tading here with a tear in
our eye. We're so happy to have you on the Dallas Cowboys. I
can't thank you enough. Well, what I really want to say, you
earned every ounce of me being able to make this call. I'm so excited.
There's just something magical about this moment that may be bigger than we even
realize. You're talking to you on the phone. Joys Now a Dallas Cowboy.
Your daddy just handing the card in right here. That's got him on
it. Congratulations about that. So there's your answer to why do people watch
the drafting those numbers because moment moments like that it's amazing. I mean I
watched I mustn't watched that clip twenty five times. It's as good as it
gets. Dad in tears. He's been a scout for the Cowboys for like
twenty five years, always been there with his son. They're gonna imagine that
man, that's gonna be the greatest moment in that father's life. Called his
own son and saying, hey, I was calling me to work. I
was watching news Max and Brikeebarts. Wonder what those two I want to know?
We know a draft pick around here, rock that got all those hats.
I want the hat. I want the rest of the hats. A
guy didn't hell, yeah, yeah, I just want the top guys.
I sent all the hats, and yeah, they send all they sent all
the points. Has a few hats put me there? You had the Titans.
I think it's a good spot for him. He would not play for
a year or two. Tann Hills there. It's good. You know that
the media is not gonna be dolling. I know he's gonna be in Tennessee
and he went to Kentucky. That's not good. Yeah, it's still the
South. It's still it's Tennessee Orange is one of one of my favorite songs.
Yes, I like that. You know what I'm talking about, sake?
You mean Rocky Top? Well, Tennessee Orange the country hit right now,
you fool. I don't know about that one. All I know about
Rocky Top. Who had a better draft? I'm gonna ask you too,
the Steelers or the Bengals. There's had a good draft. I think I
think that. I always say I don't like the Steelers, so I say
the Bengals without knowing the facts. That's got me a live Steelers and first
round they traded up to get the offensive tackle out of Georgia, brought Er
Jones and then took a Joey Porter junior first pick the second round, um
and they got that tight end. I really liked Darnell Washington, Georgia.
Michael Mayer. He went to the Raid Raiders. It'll be in Vegas.
He'll be the kind of kid that can survive in Vegas with the strippers,
the drinking and all that, the drugs and the women, naked women.
He'll be saying, you know about all that, Wayne Ellen Route tells me.
Okay. By the way, Steelers drafted no skill positions, no running
backs, no quarterbacks, no wide receivers. They're loading up to good luck
to you get after Joe Burrow. And that's how protect set up and open
it up for questions. Coach there. And by the way, Mike Brown
is an assassin when it comes to contracts. Would you agree, I'm not
talking about the coach of Sacramento. I'm talking about our Mike Brown. Yes,
Because that guy's an assassin. He did not want to assassinate the contract
of one Joe Mixon, that's for sure. It looks to me. I
mean, what about Zach Taylor saying he's my running back? What does that
mean? Does that that came down from the head? I mean, Mike
Brown has always been known to have kind of a soft spot spot for some
you know people, right, Chris Henry's Batman Jones. But he did at
Oklahoma what slugged that woman? Yeah, I'm saying, but he's I think
he's a man that enjoys giving people a second chance in life. And for
the most part, maybe the last few months, said Joe Mixon is performed.
Did he pull a gun on that woman? We don't know he's an
assassin. I mean, apparently the charges got rebrought up, so I would
imagine there's something there, But I don't know is he an assassin or not?
What about the contract for Joe Burrow. Now that we have Lamar Jackson
done, don't you par Jackson got one eighty five guarantee? What's the number
that Joe b Is going to get guaranteed? To start with a two?
What do you get two sixty two sixty sixty over five five guarantee two sixty
one for Joe Burrow two hundred billion dollars. Yeah, it's like it's like
it's like the price is right, I'll go. I'll go with a two
sixty one on Joe Burrow. I'm saying one ninety guaranteed. But who cares
about You're gonna cut the guy whatever the top line number. What do you
cut them? No, but you know five years from now, Lamar is
gonna be back, isn't he. Well, they got a boatload of players
ready for next year. I mean mixing Logan Wilson. There's a whole list
of real good players that are had to go heavy on defense or inductive guys
are on cheap rookie salary contracts. He's in the first and around and beyond.
He's an assassin. Say any more sports. I think that's it.
I think we've done it. I think we've I watched the two are Anthology
of Dusty Rhodes. He's now on my Mount Rushmore of the four I got
my county honor. No, I'm talking about I'm talking about he Flair.
Yes, you don't know what hard times Dunston Roads hard times. I when
the textile workers around this country I had to work. They got four five
kids and can't pay the way get can't buy the food, hard times when
the workers I had to work and they tell him, and hard times I
when a man is working a job, compete. Hardy is getting a watch,
can't get in the butt and say hey, I come, Kuta took
your place. That a hard time. Now I got the other two,
so hold on. So you're putting Dusty Rhodes in your mount Rushmore Top four
wrestler all the time flair Roads. I'm going with Hule Cogan because for twenty
five he's on the tonight or on the map. That's three, and my
number four is Roman Range. Stone calls Stone cold. Yeah, Austin,
I agree with too, maybe three year. But Dusty Rhodes it was he's
too obscure. He was in the wood w c W didn't hustle w WF.
He's got no respects. Among pulled a hundred people, who's Dusty Rhodes
half of them the other half would not if he had a real wrestling match.
I'm taking Andre the Giant and the Undertaker, say now the Undertaker makes
that. By the way, my middle son, for whatever reason, is
all in on the Undertaker. He's got these little videos out on YouTube.
He does that are he's the he's the s Yeah, he wants to change
his name from Bronson Alexander b Undertaker Bronson the Undertaker, boytman, you got
a problem already, Rock, here we go. How old is he?
Five four five? Under the Undertaker? A rock? Thank you very much.
What you got on the big show today? If anything? Rather gate
we got Dave Lap breakdown draft, break it down, and then we have
a little bit more draft later at five o'clock with Paul Danner Junior, and
then just stuff in between. Segmn get me out of the Stute report?
WILLI a honor of a kind of our crappy day outside and you being late,
We leave you with the immortal words of the Stuport And I tell a
story about the cold, but it's susage you make up. Let's walk up
through the woods and these little pigs run around, and he grabbed the little
pigs and he make it cold. Let it suckage out. Uh. But
always in that story, when she's skinned and brides the biggest silver dollars,
Thermica dream comes in, saves the little pig. Is that's hard time?
Say you can't make Come on, Rockett, all right, come on,
s gotta put the Hamilton County Honor. Come on, hard time, dadd
ain't hard times. That's what he has here. We're going Entrance Music Place.
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take y'alls. You ought to use this on this SIRCA. How do you
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