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Joe, welcome to Jesus Christ Show.

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Hey, how are you doing?
I'm good, Joe. What's going on?

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I got a question for you?
What does the Bible talk about?

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You know, how do you go
about forgiving someone for you feel like they're

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living a whole lie? I mean, my question two is that I've got

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a seventeen year old daughter, okay, and where I'm living, she decides

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that she's grown and she wants to
run off. Okay, I don't have

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a problem with people growing up and
leaving the house. Sure, I got

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a problem with when I go to
queen her bedroom and how she's doing it.

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I find the liquor bottles in her
room, I found a diary that

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talks about having all these different affairs
with all these boys, and she's keeping

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notes of Uh. Because of that, I can't even bring myself to talk

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to a kid. And you know, I just don't know her. I

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mean, how do I go back
dealing with that? Well? There,

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you you still have to be the
example. Either you trust the tools that

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you gave her or you don't.
Do you feel like you you gave her

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your best as you raised her?
Yeah, but I like that. Well,

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I just feel that that everything that
you know that she's a lie.

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I mean that I don't even know
her. Okay, well there's there,

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but there's there's things that you rebelled
against, and there's things that you did

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as as a young person, and
there was it didn't mean that, you

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know, throw the baby out with
the bathwater. But can I can I

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can I say something to The argument
to that is it's not really because I

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know everybody says this, but in
reality, I was a good kid.

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I never did any of that stuff. And your parents, your parents would

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say amen to that, Yes they
would do how they would is because this

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I ever since I was nine years
old, I wanted to be a pastor.

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That's all I ever did is dream, read and eat Bible. But

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this situation just throws me for a
loop. Okay, well, then do

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you feel that you're a bad parent? Yes, I do. Okay,

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Then there there's there's the flaw that
you didn't give her the tools. Maybe

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maybe your diet was a little too
condensed if you were eating, sleeping,

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and drinking the Bible. So it's
basically my fault. Nope, she's a

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free creature of free will. What
I want you to receive is because you're

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the one calling, is something that
we can we can do with you because

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she's not calling she doesn't want help
or doesn't care. Oh no, she

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does. One time she ever calls
us when you know she wants to curse

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out of mother, or she wants
something you know, or or something.

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And I just really be honest with
you, I don't know how to deal

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with it. I can't even I
can't even talk to the kid. Well

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you can, you can forgive and
not reconcile. I mean, you can

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forgive her because I don't want it
to eat away at you. It's not

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going to help you to have this
festering in you. You've got a trust

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that you gave her the best tools
you can and if and if there's a

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delayed reaction to the tools that you've
given her and she's not receiving them now,

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h then she'll receive them later.
You know, Heaven willing. But

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you you you know, maybe the
fact that you were strict, or maybe

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that you know when people are forced
certain things, they you know, down

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their throat, they tend to throw
up. So you don't know what she's

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going through. You consider down and
you can, you can find out if

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it has to do with you say, I'm just curious. This is this

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is not the way I raised you, and and if I failed you,

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I want to know to make me
a better person. I understand that,

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Jesus. But my thing is,
if is that you know, I don't

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know how you would have dealt with
it because I, on the other hand,

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you know, she moved fifteen hundred
miles away from me and now she's

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living with some boys. And I'm
telling you, I don't know that I

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would have did anything different time,
every every show, everything go. One

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of my children went astray, every
single one of them. Boy, if

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you appreciate your time, and I'm
trying to deal with this, but don't

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don't beat her up for being individual. You know, I gave people free

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will and there some of them are
going to use it in the wrong way.

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And you all you have to do. But if you if you become

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an introvert, if you reject her. Now I'm not saying you candone what

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she's doing. I'm not saying you
give her a platform to do it.

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I'm not saying you give her the
tools to do it. But if you

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cut off the only door to healthy
living in her life. Then you give

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her to the wolves. So and
that it sometimes is the right thing to

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do, but it's a rare exception. So you have to continue, Joe

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with your wife, the strength of
you two as her parents. Be good

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parents, be strong, Remind her
that you love her, Remind her that

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your house is a sanctuary. But
that the reason why you you've you've taught

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her not to do those things,
or the reason why you tried to steer

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her away from those things was for
her own protection, not to be a

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killed joy, and that parents are
human too, and you only want what's

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best for her. But if she
makes those decisions, if God respects her

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to make those enough to make those
decisions, you have to as well as

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hard as it is for a parent, Joe. But the fact that you'd

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pick up the phone and call shows
you care, shows that she's important.

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Remove that before it becomes sin to
you, though, don't let don't harbor

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that anger towards her. Hate the
things that she's doing, but do not

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hate her. I know that saying
is often used and confused. As far

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as you know, hate the sin, love the sinner, and people go,

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how can you separate the two.
Well, God did it, so

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can you. You can find a
way to continue to guide her through your

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actions and your actions of love.
First Peter three fifteen says that people will

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ask you questions about the hope that
lies within you because of the way you

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live. You live a certain way. People are going to look at you

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and say, well, how can
you deal with that? And she knows

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what she's doing is wrong. She's
not stupid, she's rebellious. There's a

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difference. So she's gonna wonder how
can you still love her? Because maybe

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she has issues with herself? How
can you still love her when she's when

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she doesn't even love herself, when
she's going through her own issues. And

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that's going to be an important lesson
and tool for her. But you can't

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just want to control her because that's
not godly either. Troy, Welcome to

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the Jesus Christ Show. Good morning, How are you today? I am

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well, Troy? How can I
help you? Well? My situation is

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is that I have a father that
he confesses to be a Christian, and

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which I am as well, But
for as long as I've known him,

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he's been addicted to alcohol and drugs
and to date, he is estranged from

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the four sons he has left,
and I'm the only one that has tried

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to reach out to him, and
I've trying to say everything that I could

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say to get him to see how
so the living the life that he lives

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is contrary to what it means to
be a Christian. Okay, so when

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you point something out to him,
how does he respond? Not very well

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at all. At different times he
flips out and calls me every name that

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he can think of, and other
times he he comes back with other Bible

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verses and oh, yeah, that
he knows, he already knows it all,

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and that I don't need to preach
to him. But I could be

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like my other brothers and just disavow
him and never talk to him again.

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But the Christian in me and I
feel a strong urge to reach him at

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some level at some point. But
it's just like nothing that I have said

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or done has has worked at all
and has only had the totally opposite effects.

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Yeah, you probably know the verse
well, Mark six four. I

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said, a prophet is not without
honor except in his own town, among

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his relatives, and in his own
home. So even if you have good

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words, for people and things that
are helpful to them. In your own

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home, no one listens you could
you could go out somewhere and preach on

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a on a corner and people just
come to Christ in hordes and then go

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home and no one listens to you. So it is really difficult to be

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in a family situation and have someone
listen to you. The likelihood of it

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coming from you is slim to none. But it doesn't mean that it's not

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a righteous endeavor to continue to be
an example. There's no trickery or magic

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to it. It's about honesty and
persistence. It's about love and care.

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Not not trying to teach him,
but show him being being the good person,

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keeping those things out of your life, doing something that shows him that

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you care, And you can ask
him point blank. You can say,

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you know, if I was living
this life, I was doing these things,

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if the roles were reverse, would
you care about me? Would you

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would you want me to stop?
Would you ask me what would you do?

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And tell him say, I will
do exactly what you tell me to

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do. The relationship that I've had
with him, there was a time where

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I was right there in it with
him, and I wouldn't say it's a

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spiritual awakening, because I've always had
you in my life. But there were

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times in my life where I ignored
you and I went on a path of

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basically did what I wanted when I
wanted, and it didn't really take any

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sudden impact of anything to happen to
bring me back. I went through treatment,

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and since I totally have been born
again and repented and have lived my

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life towards your way, and I
witnessed to him. The miracles that have

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happened in my life and with my
wife and my children and the life that

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we have today are a direct response
of listening to God and following his will

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for our lives. Okay, so
so, so let and that and praise

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God. That is wonderful. So
what did your dad have to tell you

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to make you do that? My
father didn't tell me anything exactly exactly.

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So God still spoke to you,
right, Yes, God loved you through

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the whole thing. Yes, then
why aren't you trusting God to do that

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with your dad? I never thought
of it like that? Be an example.

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Thank you. Be strong. He
sees everything that's going on. He's

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not a stupid man, and he
sees and he knows that God loves him,

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he is distant from God. You're
absolutely right. There is nothing you

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said that is incorrect. You're absolutely
right about everything you said. You're absolutely

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right as to what he needs to
do. You're absolutely right about all of

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that. But it doesn't matter.
What matters is where his heart is.

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And sadly, he may reject God
God's hand throughout the entirety of the process,

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and it may end poorly, but
it doesn't have to. And it

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didn't with you, and God reached
out to you over and over again,

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and eventually you heard. It didn't
come necessarily from a person, and it

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didn't come from him. It came
from your relationship with God that even when

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it was holding on by a threat, it was still there. And God

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loves him more than you ever could
and vice versa, and he will reach

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out to him and you need to
trust that. Thank you. You're welcome,

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going peace, and I'm very proud
of you. What a wonderful story,

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Steve Stephen, Welcome to the Jesus
Christ Showy Jesus. How are you?

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I am good, sir, how
are you? I'm very well?

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Thank you very much. I just
had a really quick question about about laws

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that are made by by holy people
or supposedly holy people, and how we're

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supposed to integrate them, integrate them
to our lives, like like early Church

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father type stuff, or exactly like
the Pope making up the Seven Deadly Sins,

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or or Dante's version of Hell in
the Inferno. Strangely enough, Dante

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in the Divine Comedy, they actually
regurgitate the same seven deadly sins exactly,

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you know, But are they listed
anywhere in the Bible? Is my question?

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Well, here's the thing. There's
there's a difference between is it in

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the Bible and is the truth the
truth? I mean, there are things,

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there are things that are true that
aren't in scripture, but they're still

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true. So as far as them
being the seven deadly sins, No,

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it gets confusing because people think,
well, first, are they truly deadly?

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Does that mean that you these are
unpardonable sins. No, There's only

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one unpardonable sin in scripture, and
that's referred to as blasphemy the Holy Spirit,

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and essentially that's rejecting God unto death. So they so it's a misnomer

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that they're deadly sins in that sense, However, Scripture talks about in Proverbs

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sixteen through nineteen, it says,
and you've probably heard this a dozen times,

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there are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him.

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Haughty eyes, a lying tongue,
hands that shed innocent blood, a

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heart that devises wicked schemes, feet
that are quick to rush into evil,

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a false witness who pours out lies, and a man who stirs up dissension

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among his brothers. But that's not
the seven deadly sins. No, so

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you know, vaguely, some of
them might fit in. The interesting thing

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is there is never, there isn't
a list anywhere in scripture of those seven

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deadly sins being referred to as the
seven deadly sins. Absolutely right, But

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every sin, just about every sin
that you could commit, falls into one

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of those seven. Yeah, so
in that sense, yeah, they're true.

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It was. Here's here's my here's
my thought, though, I mean,

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wouldn't we be in a constant cycle
of sinning and then an absolution.

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We have to go through the whole
process if we commit one of these sins

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or how so something to that effect. I'm just it's just an actual if

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we go out and we tell a
lie. I'm not I'm not saying that

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that it's it's going to happen.
But let's say we do something though that's

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wrong, and then we go and
absolve ourselves and we don't learn from and

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we do it again. We'd be
in a constant cycle of doing this over

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and over and over. Yes,
As a matter of fact, some of

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the early Church was if you read, uh, you know, some of

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the epistles, you'll find that some
of the concerns of the apostles at the

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time were identical to things that go
on today. And much of it ties

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into that concept of wait a second, So as a Christian, you've got

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like a license to sin, you
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exactly. And no, that would
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be that it's now it stops being
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it's lying or whatever, and now
it becomes rebellion. So if you are

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constantly in that state, then you
start falling into feet that are quick to

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rush into evil, and a man
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a false witness who pours out lies
that are different from just lying because lying

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is going to occur. You're going
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your sin nature. You're you're going
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sin in this life. You're not
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So in that process, you are
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true north, but your compass is
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you are in a state of rebellion. It's like a parent. I mean,

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if if a kid crashes the car, then the parent goes, you

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know, there's accidents happen, You're
okay, the other person's okay, it's

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fine, Maybe they'll get him another
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crash the car, they probably don't
care about the parents, nor do they

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respect them, nor do they care
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importance of physical goods and what it
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these things, and you would consider
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and it's not. It's no longer
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are in that place, then you
find it you kind of fall into that

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Hebrews six four context of somebody who
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your true relationship with God. You
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don't actually believe it. Yeah,
you don't. Actually you haven't put it

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into place. And therefore it says
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fall away, you will never come
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so you know, you kind of
you sure there are people you know in

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your younger days and you meet somebody
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think you're in love, and you
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you know, brick a brack of
love, but it's not truly, you

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know, unconditional, this kind of
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this kind of understanding of one another. Then if you get into a

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bad relationship and it falls apart,
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like, I'm never gonna love again. I'm never going to get it in

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that relationship because it doesn't work because
they've never experienced it. So those that

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kind of have partial relationships with God
are the hardest ones to bring back because

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they always felt like they were in
it knee deep. So that's what Scripture

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talks about now as far as people
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God's will and still sin, they
it's not that you should flog yourself or

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you know, consider yourself to be
a horrible person. All sins have been

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paid for. Every sin you'll ever
do has been paid for. It's a

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matter of understanding who paid for it, and the purpose and what took place

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on the cross and all those things, and being in that state of appreciation

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and the desire to always wanting to
please God and find God's will and that

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type of thing. It's not about
having some sort of now get out of

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jail free card. Now I'm going
to go do whatever I want. You

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could do whatever you want and you'll
be absolved in the year you're free to

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do it again. So, yeah, that's just not the way it's going

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to work. If you put God
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says, do not test your Lord
God. If you put God to the

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test like that and make him jump
through hoops, then then it comes down

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to the point of you not caring
about God to begin with, and the

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relationship is broken. So it's kind
of a vicious circle there that yes,

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you through true repentance. The word
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If you're not truly trying to turn
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a state of repentance, and therefore
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Well, thank you very much for
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it. You're welcome. It was
a very good question. There are a

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lot of things happen like that,
Steven. You'll you'll get a lot of

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things that kind of are taken from
scripture and the early Church fathers, you

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know, popes and Protestants alike,
they condensed a lot of things in scripture

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into ways that were palatable or easily
understood because there wasn't necessarily a lot of

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literacy, so a lot of people
didn't read. And you know, the

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Catholic Church takes a lot of hit
for this too, because of statues and

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imagery, imagery in the buildings.
A lot of that stems from people not

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being able to read. The desire
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and images. Now, some people
may argue that it's got some parts of

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the Church have gone too far and
it becomes idolatry or what have you.

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I'm saying that in its earliest stages, the desire was to help people understand

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and to learn principles in scripture by
using a physical imagery to encapsulate an entire

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thought into a picture. And Protestants
and Catholics alike did those types of things

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where they condensed teachings or understandings,
you know, even like the Sinner's Prayer

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or something like that, which is
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Testament, not just one particular scripture
to help people understand. And the Seven

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Deadly Sins kind of is that cat
falls into that category. You're not going

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to find that particular list in scripture
as a list per se, but certainly

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are is that truth or the truths
about those seven deadly sins I've talked about

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in scripture? Yes, are they
deadly because they cannot be saved from them?

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Or God did not die on the
cross and when I was nailed there

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and bled for you didn't pay for
them. Now, that's silly, That's

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they're not deadly in that sense.
They're deadly in the sense that they will

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pull you away from God if you
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them. Brian, Welcome to the
Jesus Christ Show. Yes, hey doing

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Jesus. I am well, Brian. How are you? I'm doing well.

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I've been struggling with alcoholism for about
the last the five six years of

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my life. Oh I'm sorry to
hear that, thank you, and I'm

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doing the best I can to work
through it. I've gone through AA groups

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where they told me to find a
higher power. I've tried to going through

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my church groups, which is a
celebrate recovery. We tried to do that

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point of it. And I've even
tried to go through medical detox and everything

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else. And I'm finding abilities to
get myself through some time. But the

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thing that keeps dragging me down,
in my opinion is I don't find forgiveness,

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and I'm having a trouble connecting with
Jesus and God, who could potentially

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help me, in my opinion,
help me kind of give myself for everything

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that I may have done bad during
my struggle. So how do I try

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to rebuild that connection when I know
I have let God down, in my

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family down, and everybody else down. Your relationship with God is not based

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on how bad you are, but
how good God is. So when you

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limit God and you say, Okay, I know God is gracious. God

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is all knowing. God died on
the cross prior to me ever doing any

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sin. God knew every sin I
was going to do. If you look

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at it in the reverse on not
how bad you were, but how great

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God is and how big and how
good God is, then things come into

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focus when you start. If you
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yourself, you're still making yourself the
God of your faith. You are not

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God. You are going to make
mistakes. In Scripture, it's very clear

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that a righteous man is not a
man that doesn't fall, but a man

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who falls seven times, and seven
times gets up. The key. The

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key is that you're getting up.
You can't you can't outdo God. You

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don't have God. You have me
on the cross going I died. I

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died for all sins, well not
this guy's, because those are just too

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heavy for me to take. Yeah, and does that kind of cos also

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come in effects, because that that
dutches home and that hits hard. But

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that knowing that I started to make
that connection, I start to feel back

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together. But somehow I find myself
back in that liquor store, I find

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myself buying that bottle, and I
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Will you see that as a slap
in your face because under I try to

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understand that, I try to live
that, but yet I repeat that same

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bad behavior that is against your wishes
for me. Well, you're not dealing

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with rebellion in the same way your
body is. You know what's interesting is

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the word for sorcery that's translated into
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Now, pharmachia sounds like the word
pharmacy, and the reason why it

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sounds that way is that's where you
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scripture is talking about drugs, mostly
people that were using drugs for mystic reasons.

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So you are under the influence of
something in your life that you are

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battling with. It is not only
a spiritual battle, it's a physical battle.

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It's an addictive battle. And so
you can't fight it only on one

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front. You have to You know, how you became an alcoholic. You

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became an alcoholic one drink at a
time, Yeah, and then one drink

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became six drinks and six drinks became
twelve drinks, and you kept doing that,

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and the reversing of that process is
difficult. It's it's always easier to

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gain weight than it is to lose
it. Right, So now you're reversing

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that process at least one drink at
a time. And so I'm not asking

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you even to look at this as
if you've got to stop. It's more

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like a chisel away at it and
say today, I'm today, I'm not

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going to drink. Maybe tomorrow,
And then when tomorrow comes, today,

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I'm not going to drink maybe tomorrow. You're you're, you're slowly, you

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have to do that. But when
you're not drinking, your mind is clearer

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to have a stronger relationship with God, a focused relationship with God. But

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don't beat yourself of it. The
devil loves this. The devil loves it

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for you to beat yourself up,
because the more you beat yourself up,

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have you have you ever owed someone
money? And you do it, and

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then and then a week becomes a
month, and a month becomes a year,

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and then all of a sudden you
don't want to see them anymore because

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you're embarrassed by it. Well,
stop at that phone call and all that

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stuff, and maybe it's twenty bucks
and you're gonna throw away an entire relationship

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over twenty bucks instead of picking up
the phone and going, I feel like

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a jerk. I never paid you
back. I'm embarrassed, and let's build

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a plan. You know, I
don't want to I don't want this to

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separate us. I cherish your friendship. And it's gotten too bad, too

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far. But people don't do that. They beat themselves up and then they

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run away from it. Now the
enemy knows this about humanity. So the

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enemy says, Gosh, you've really
really done some horrible things. You've really

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hurt God. I wouldn't go around
him right now, And that's a lie

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from the pit of hell. God
wants to see you. God wants to

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hold you. God wants to kiss
you and embrace you. And as you

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go through you know, detox,
as your body kicks this demon out and

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gets the chemical stuff out of your
system and the habit and break down the

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habit, and God wants to be
there with you in cold sweats and ugliness

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and sadness and depression, all of
that. And the devil doesn't want you

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to know that because once you know
that that's how you get better. Yeah,

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that makes a last tense. Thank
you. You're welcome. Now,

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now go apply it. And now
that God is sitting with you, and

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God is holding you, and God
wants you to kick this demon. And

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every lie of the devil needs to
be thrown back in the devil's face.

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And even if you each day don't
drink to spite the devil, that's a

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victory. Every drink you don't take
just to spite the devil is a victory

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for God. Find a program that
works well for you, that makes sense

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to you. Apply that program.
Know that God loves you, forgives you,

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and died on the cross for you
before you ever did any of this,

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knowing you would do all of it. And in that have peace and

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strength, and God be with you. Kf I on demand