You're listening to Kfix on demand. Joe, welcome to Jesus Christ Show.
Hey, how are you doing? I'm good, Joe. What's going on?
I got a question for you? What does the Bible talk about?
You know, how do you go about forgiving someone for you feel like they're
living a whole lie? I mean, my question two is that I've got
a seventeen year old daughter, okay, and where I'm living, she decides
that she's grown and she wants to run off. Okay, I don't have
a problem with people growing up and leaving the house. Sure, I got
a problem with when I go to queen her bedroom and how she's doing it.
I find the liquor bottles in her room, I found a diary that
talks about having all these different affairs with all these boys, and she's keeping
notes of Uh. Because of that, I can't even bring myself to talk
to a kid. And you know, I just don't know her. I
mean, how do I go back dealing with that? Well? There,
you you still have to be the example. Either you trust the tools that
you gave her or you don't. Do you feel like you you gave her
your best as you raised her? Yeah, but I like that. Well,
I just feel that that everything that you know that she's a lie.
I mean that I don't even know her. Okay, well there's there,
but there's there's things that you rebelled against, and there's things that you did
as as a young person, and there was it didn't mean that, you
know, throw the baby out with the bathwater. But can I can I
can I say something to The argument to that is it's not really because I
know everybody says this, but in reality, I was a good kid.
I never did any of that stuff. And your parents, your parents would
say amen to that, Yes they would do how they would is because this
I ever since I was nine years old, I wanted to be a pastor.
That's all I ever did is dream, read and eat Bible. But
this situation just throws me for a loop. Okay, well, then do
you feel that you're a bad parent? Yes, I do. Okay,
Then there there's there's the flaw that you didn't give her the tools. Maybe
maybe your diet was a little too condensed if you were eating, sleeping,
and drinking the Bible. So it's basically my fault. Nope, she's a
free creature of free will. What I want you to receive is because you're
the one calling, is something that we can we can do with you because
she's not calling she doesn't want help or doesn't care. Oh no, she
does. One time she ever calls us when you know she wants to curse
out of mother, or she wants something you know, or or something.
And I just really be honest with you, I don't know how to deal
with it. I can't even I can't even talk to the kid. Well
you can, you can forgive and not reconcile. I mean, you can
forgive her because I don't want it to eat away at you. It's not
going to help you to have this festering in you. You've got a trust
that you gave her the best tools you can and if and if there's a
delayed reaction to the tools that you've given her and she's not receiving them now,
h then she'll receive them later. You know, Heaven willing. But
you you you know, maybe the fact that you were strict, or maybe
that you know when people are forced certain things, they you know, down
their throat, they tend to throw up. So you don't know what she's
going through. You consider down and you can, you can find out if
it has to do with you say, I'm just curious. This is this
is not the way I raised you, and and if I failed you,
I want to know to make me a better person. I understand that,
Jesus. But my thing is, if is that you know, I don't
know how you would have dealt with it because I, on the other hand,
you know, she moved fifteen hundred miles away from me and now she's
living with some boys. And I'm telling you, I don't know that I
would have did anything different time, every every show, everything go. One
of my children went astray, every single one of them. Boy, if
you appreciate your time, and I'm trying to deal with this, but don't
don't beat her up for being individual. You know, I gave people free
will and there some of them are going to use it in the wrong way.
And you all you have to do. But if you if you become
an introvert, if you reject her. Now I'm not saying you candone what
she's doing. I'm not saying you give her a platform to do it.
I'm not saying you give her the tools to do it. But if you
cut off the only door to healthy living in her life. Then you give
her to the wolves. So and that it sometimes is the right thing to
do, but it's a rare exception. So you have to continue, Joe
with your wife, the strength of you two as her parents. Be good
parents, be strong, Remind her that you love her, Remind her that
your house is a sanctuary. But that the reason why you you've you've taught
her not to do those things, or the reason why you tried to steer
her away from those things was for her own protection, not to be a
killed joy, and that parents are human too, and you only want what's
best for her. But if she makes those decisions, if God respects her
to make those enough to make those decisions, you have to as well as
hard as it is for a parent, Joe. But the fact that you'd
pick up the phone and call shows you care, shows that she's important.
Remove that before it becomes sin to you, though, don't let don't harbor
that anger towards her. Hate the things that she's doing, but do not
hate her. I know that saying is often used and confused. As far
as you know, hate the sin, love the sinner, and people go,
how can you separate the two. Well, God did it, so
can you. You can find a way to continue to guide her through your
actions and your actions of love. First Peter three fifteen says that people will
ask you questions about the hope that lies within you because of the way you
live. You live a certain way. People are going to look at you
and say, well, how can you deal with that? And she knows
what she's doing is wrong. She's not stupid, she's rebellious. There's a
difference. So she's gonna wonder how can you still love her? Because maybe
she has issues with herself? How can you still love her when she's when
she doesn't even love herself, when she's going through her own issues. And
that's going to be an important lesson and tool for her. But you can't
just want to control her because that's not godly either. Troy, Welcome to
the Jesus Christ Show. Good morning, How are you today? I am
well, Troy? How can I help you? Well? My situation is
is that I have a father that he confesses to be a Christian, and
which I am as well, But for as long as I've known him,
he's been addicted to alcohol and drugs and to date, he is estranged from
the four sons he has left, and I'm the only one that has tried
to reach out to him, and I've trying to say everything that I could
say to get him to see how so the living the life that he lives
is contrary to what it means to be a Christian. Okay, so when
you point something out to him, how does he respond? Not very well
at all. At different times he flips out and calls me every name that
he can think of, and other times he he comes back with other Bible
verses and oh, yeah, that he knows, he already knows it all,
and that I don't need to preach to him. But I could be
like my other brothers and just disavow him and never talk to him again.
But the Christian in me and I feel a strong urge to reach him at
some level at some point. But it's just like nothing that I have said
or done has has worked at all and has only had the totally opposite effects.
Yeah, you probably know the verse well, Mark six four. I
said, a prophet is not without honor except in his own town, among
his relatives, and in his own home. So even if you have good
words, for people and things that are helpful to them. In your own
home, no one listens you could you could go out somewhere and preach on
a on a corner and people just come to Christ in hordes and then go
home and no one listens to you. So it is really difficult to be
in a family situation and have someone listen to you. The likelihood of it
coming from you is slim to none. But it doesn't mean that it's not
a righteous endeavor to continue to be an example. There's no trickery or magic
to it. It's about honesty and persistence. It's about love and care.
Not not trying to teach him, but show him being being the good person,
keeping those things out of your life, doing something that shows him that
you care, And you can ask him point blank. You can say,
you know, if I was living this life, I was doing these things,
if the roles were reverse, would you care about me? Would you
would you want me to stop? Would you ask me what would you do?
And tell him say, I will do exactly what you tell me to
do. The relationship that I've had with him, there was a time where
I was right there in it with him, and I wouldn't say it's a
spiritual awakening, because I've always had you in my life. But there were
times in my life where I ignored you and I went on a path of
basically did what I wanted when I wanted, and it didn't really take any
sudden impact of anything to happen to bring me back. I went through treatment,
and since I totally have been born again and repented and have lived my
life towards your way, and I witnessed to him. The miracles that have
happened in my life and with my wife and my children and the life that
we have today are a direct response of listening to God and following his will
for our lives. Okay, so so, so let and that and praise
God. That is wonderful. So what did your dad have to tell you
to make you do that? My father didn't tell me anything exactly exactly.
So God still spoke to you, right, Yes, God loved you through
the whole thing. Yes, then why aren't you trusting God to do that
with your dad? I never thought of it like that? Be an example.
Thank you. Be strong. He sees everything that's going on. He's
not a stupid man, and he sees and he knows that God loves him,
he is distant from God. You're absolutely right. There is nothing you
said that is incorrect. You're absolutely right about everything you said. You're absolutely
right as to what he needs to do. You're absolutely right about all of
that. But it doesn't matter. What matters is where his heart is.
And sadly, he may reject God God's hand throughout the entirety of the process,
and it may end poorly, but it doesn't have to. And it
didn't with you, and God reached out to you over and over again,
and eventually you heard. It didn't come necessarily from a person, and it
didn't come from him. It came from your relationship with God that even when
it was holding on by a threat, it was still there. And God
loves him more than you ever could and vice versa, and he will reach
out to him and you need to trust that. Thank you. You're welcome,
going peace, and I'm very proud of you. What a wonderful story,
Steve Stephen, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Showy Jesus. How are you?
I am good, sir, how are you? I'm very well?
Thank you very much. I just had a really quick question about about laws
that are made by by holy people or supposedly holy people, and how we're
supposed to integrate them, integrate them to our lives, like like early Church
father type stuff, or exactly like the Pope making up the Seven Deadly Sins,
or or Dante's version of Hell in the Inferno. Strangely enough, Dante
in the Divine Comedy, they actually regurgitate the same seven deadly sins exactly,
you know, But are they listed anywhere in the Bible? Is my question?
Well, here's the thing. There's there's a difference between is it in
the Bible and is the truth the truth? I mean, there are things,
there are things that are true that aren't in scripture, but they're still
true. So as far as them being the seven deadly sins, No,
it gets confusing because people think, well, first, are they truly deadly?
Does that mean that you these are unpardonable sins. No, There's only
one unpardonable sin in scripture, and that's referred to as blasphemy the Holy Spirit,
and essentially that's rejecting God unto death. So they so it's a misnomer
that they're deadly sins in that sense, However, Scripture talks about in Proverbs
sixteen through nineteen, it says, and you've probably heard this a dozen times,
there are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him.
Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a
heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil,
a false witness who pours out lies, and a man who stirs up dissension
among his brothers. But that's not the seven deadly sins. No, so
you know, vaguely, some of them might fit in. The interesting thing
is there is never, there isn't a list anywhere in scripture of those seven
deadly sins being referred to as the seven deadly sins. Absolutely right, But
every sin, just about every sin that you could commit, falls into one
of those seven. Yeah, so in that sense, yeah, they're true.
It was. Here's here's my here's my thought, though, I mean,
wouldn't we be in a constant cycle of sinning and then an absolution.
We have to go through the whole process if we commit one of these sins
or how so something to that effect. I'm just it's just an actual if
we go out and we tell a lie. I'm not I'm not saying that
that it's it's going to happen. But let's say we do something though that's
wrong, and then we go and absolve ourselves and we don't learn from and
we do it again. We'd be in a constant cycle of doing this over
and over and over. Yes, As a matter of fact, some of
the early Church was if you read, uh, you know, some of
the epistles, you'll find that some of the concerns of the apostles at the
time were identical to things that go on today. And much of it ties
into that concept of wait a second, So as a Christian, you've got
like a license to sin, you just got to say sorry after every time
exactly. And no, that would be a huge problem because the concern would
be that it's now it stops being the original sin that you're practicing, whether
it's lying or whatever, and now it becomes rebellion. So if you are
constantly in that state, then you start falling into feet that are quick to
rush into evil, and a man who stirs up dissension amongst his brother and
a false witness who pours out lies that are different from just lying because lying
is going to occur. You're going to tell lies, and that's part of
your sin nature. You're you're going to be you're going to you're going to
sin in this life. You're not going to stop sinning ever in this life.
But your desire is to seek a path that isn't filled with sin.
So in that process, you are constantly pointing, you know, pointing a
true north, but your compass is gonna, you know, go off if
you are in a state of rebellion. It's like a parent. I mean,
if if a kid crashes the car, then the parent goes, you
know, there's accidents happen, You're okay, the other person's okay, it's
fine, Maybe they'll get him another car. But if the person continues to
crash the car, they probably don't care about the parents, nor do they
respect them, nor do they care about the actual car itself, or the
importance of physical goods and what it takes to actually create them and all of
these things, and you would consider them to be in a state of rebellion,
and it's not. It's no longer a state of love. If you
are in that place, then you find it you kind of fall into that
Hebrews six four context of somebody who never really came to an understanding or have
your true relationship with God. You just profess it with your mouth, but
don't actually believe it. Yeah, you don't. Actually you haven't put it
into place. And therefore it says in scripture in that context, if you
fall away, you will never come back because you were never there. And
so you know, you kind of you sure there are people you know in
your younger days and you meet somebody and you fall in love, and you
think you're in love, and you may have some of the emotional uh,
you know, brick a brack of love, but it's not truly, you
know, unconditional, this kind of uh as far as humans can do this,
this kind of understanding of one another. Then if you get into a
bad relationship and it falls apart, there's a lot of young people that feel
like, I'm never gonna love again. I'm never going to get it in
that relationship because it doesn't work because they've never experienced it. So those that
kind of have partial relationships with God are the hardest ones to bring back because
they always felt like they were in it knee deep. So that's what Scripture
talks about now as far as people that are in love with God and seeking
God's will and still sin, they it's not that you should flog yourself or
you know, consider yourself to be a horrible person. All sins have been
paid for. Every sin you'll ever do has been paid for. It's a
matter of understanding who paid for it, and the purpose and what took place
on the cross and all those things, and being in that state of appreciation
and the desire to always wanting to please God and find God's will and that
type of thing. It's not about having some sort of now get out of
jail free card. Now I'm going to go do whatever I want. You
could do whatever you want and you'll be absolved in the year you're free to
do it again. So, yeah, that's just not the way it's going
to work. If you put God through through the test like that, it
says, do not test your Lord God. If you put God to the
test like that and make him jump through hoops, then then it comes down
to the point of you not caring about God to begin with, and the
relationship is broken. So it's kind of a vicious circle there that yes,
you through true repentance. The word repentance meaning to turn away from that.
If you're not truly trying to turn away from it, then you're not in
a state of repentance, and therefore you haven't received God in the first place.
Well, thank you very much for all of your help. I appreciate
it. You're welcome. It was a very good question. There are a
lot of things happen like that, Steven. You'll you'll get a lot of
things that kind of are taken from scripture and the early Church fathers, you
know, popes and Protestants alike, they condensed a lot of things in scripture
into ways that were palatable or easily understood because there wasn't necessarily a lot of
literacy, so a lot of people didn't read. And you know, the
Catholic Church takes a lot of hit for this too, because of statues and
imagery, imagery in the buildings. A lot of that stems from people not
being able to read. The desire of the early Church to teach using symbols
and images. Now, some people may argue that it's got some parts of
the Church have gone too far and it becomes idolatry or what have you.
I'm saying that in its earliest stages, the desire was to help people understand
and to learn principles in scripture by using a physical imagery to encapsulate an entire
thought into a picture. And Protestants and Catholics alike did those types of things
where they condensed teachings or understandings, you know, even like the Sinner's Prayer
or something like that, which is really scattered throughout the entirety of the New
Testament, not just one particular scripture to help people understand. And the Seven
Deadly Sins kind of is that cat falls into that category. You're not going
to find that particular list in scripture as a list per se, but certainly
are is that truth or the truths about those seven deadly sins I've talked about
in scripture? Yes, are they deadly because they cannot be saved from them?
Or God did not die on the cross and when I was nailed there
and bled for you didn't pay for them. Now, that's silly, That's
they're not deadly in that sense. They're deadly in the sense that they will
pull you away from God if you continue in a path that is lined with
them. Brian, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Yes, hey doing
Jesus. I am well, Brian. How are you? I'm doing well.
I've been struggling with alcoholism for about the last the five six years of
my life. Oh I'm sorry to hear that, thank you, and I'm
doing the best I can to work through it. I've gone through AA groups
where they told me to find a higher power. I've tried to going through
my church groups, which is a celebrate recovery. We tried to do that
point of it. And I've even tried to go through medical detox and everything
else. And I'm finding abilities to get myself through some time. But the
thing that keeps dragging me down, in my opinion is I don't find forgiveness,
and I'm having a trouble connecting with Jesus and God, who could potentially
help me, in my opinion, help me kind of give myself for everything
that I may have done bad during my struggle. So how do I try
to rebuild that connection when I know I have let God down, in my
family down, and everybody else down. Your relationship with God is not based
on how bad you are, but how good God is. So when you
limit God and you say, Okay, I know God is gracious. God
is all knowing. God died on the cross prior to me ever doing any
sin. God knew every sin I was going to do. If you look
at it in the reverse on not how bad you were, but how great
God is and how big and how good God is, then things come into
focus when you start. If you start a spiritual journey solely by looking at
yourself, you're still making yourself the God of your faith. You are not
God. You are going to make mistakes. In Scripture, it's very clear
that a righteous man is not a man that doesn't fall, but a man
who falls seven times, and seven times gets up. The key. The
key is that you're getting up. You can't you can't outdo God. You
don't have God. You have me on the cross going I died. I
died for all sins, well not this guy's, because those are just too
heavy for me to take. Yeah, and does that kind of cos also
come in effects, because that that dutches home and that hits hard. But
that knowing that I started to make that connection, I start to feel back
together. But somehow I find myself back in that liquor store, I find
myself buying that bottle, and I find myself doing that same effect again.
Will you see that as a slap in your face because under I try to
understand that, I try to live that, but yet I repeat that same
bad behavior that is against your wishes for me. Well, you're not dealing
with rebellion in the same way your body is. You know what's interesting is
the word for sorcery that's translated into sorcery in scripture from the Greek is pharmachia.
Now, pharmachia sounds like the word pharmacy, and the reason why it
sounds that way is that's where you get the word pharmacy is sorcery, and
scripture is talking about drugs, mostly people that were using drugs for mystic reasons.
So you are under the influence of something in your life that you are
battling with. It is not only a spiritual battle, it's a physical battle.
It's an addictive battle. And so you can't fight it only on one
front. You have to You know, how you became an alcoholic. You
became an alcoholic one drink at a time, Yeah, and then one drink
became six drinks and six drinks became twelve drinks, and you kept doing that,
and the reversing of that process is difficult. It's it's always easier to
gain weight than it is to lose it. Right, So now you're reversing
that process at least one drink at a time. And so I'm not asking
you even to look at this as if you've got to stop. It's more
like a chisel away at it and say today, I'm today, I'm not
going to drink. Maybe tomorrow, And then when tomorrow comes, today,
I'm not going to drink maybe tomorrow. You're you're, you're slowly, you
have to do that. But when you're not drinking, your mind is clearer
to have a stronger relationship with God, a focused relationship with God. But
don't beat yourself of it. The devil loves this. The devil loves it
for you to beat yourself up, because the more you beat yourself up,
have you have you ever owed someone money? And you do it, and
then and then a week becomes a month, and a month becomes a year,
and then all of a sudden you don't want to see them anymore because
you're embarrassed by it. Well, stop at that phone call and all that
stuff, and maybe it's twenty bucks and you're gonna throw away an entire relationship
over twenty bucks instead of picking up the phone and going, I feel like
a jerk. I never paid you back. I'm embarrassed, and let's build
a plan. You know, I don't want to I don't want this to
separate us. I cherish your friendship. And it's gotten too bad, too
far. But people don't do that. They beat themselves up and then they
run away from it. Now the enemy knows this about humanity. So the
enemy says, Gosh, you've really really done some horrible things. You've really
hurt God. I wouldn't go around him right now, And that's a lie
from the pit of hell. God wants to see you. God wants to
hold you. God wants to kiss you and embrace you. And as you
go through you know, detox, as your body kicks this demon out and
gets the chemical stuff out of your system and the habit and break down the
habit, and God wants to be there with you in cold sweats and ugliness
and sadness and depression, all of that. And the devil doesn't want you
to know that because once you know that that's how you get better. Yeah,
that makes a last tense. Thank you. You're welcome. Now,
now go apply it. And now that God is sitting with you, and
God is holding you, and God wants you to kick this demon. And
every lie of the devil needs to be thrown back in the devil's face.
And even if you each day don't drink to spite the devil, that's a
victory. Every drink you don't take just to spite the devil is a victory
for God. Find a program that works well for you, that makes sense
to you. Apply that program. Know that God loves you, forgives you,
and died on the cross for you before you ever did any of this,
knowing you would do all of it. And in that have peace and
strength, and God be with you. Kf I on demand