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Well, it's my pleasure to be
joined on our podcast once again. Now.

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I used to call you the lightweight
champ. Now, Devin Haney,

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I got to call you the WBC
junior about the way champion. We're here

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to talk about You're a very big
fight you have coming up April twentieth,

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the Zone Paint Review at Barclay Center
in Brooklyn, New York, against Ryan

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Garcia. Devin, thank you very
much for doing this. Have you been

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yes, sir, thank you,
thank you for having me. I've been

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good. I'm excited for the fight, you know, another fight at one

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forty where I'm much more comfortable,
much more stronger, and I look forward

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to it. All right, So
before we get into the conversation about that

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fight that you have coming up,
I want to ask you. I was

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looking at you at your box wreck
in terms of what you've done in your

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career as a lightweight, and I
think it kind of gets like downgraded by

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some people, and I can't really
figure that out. I look at I

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see you were the first undisputed lightweight
champion since the legendary Parnell Whitaker did it

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in nineteen ninety. You're the first
ever four belt undisputed champion in the lightweight

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division. Overall, you made seven
title defenses, including two of the undisputed

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crown, and you beat you know, good name guys like Gamboa, Lenaris,

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Jojo Diaz, You beat Cambosas twice
in Australia, then you beat Lomachenko.

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What do you when you think when
I you hear all that stuff,

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I just said, what do you
think is your lightweight legacy? No?

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I mean, I'm that all makes
you smile just hearing it, because you

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know I worked hard to make the
best fights happen. You know, I've

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always said I wanted to the best
fighters in the world, and you know,

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if my resume chose yeah, I
mean it's I mean I think if

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you if if they had been willing
to fight you, you you probably you

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would have definitely fought a Tank Davis, Tifi, Ma Lopez, you know

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the other you know good names that
are in that weight class. I can't

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imagine you wouldn't have seen the type
of guys that you were willing to step

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in with. Am I wrong about
that? No? One hundred percent.

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Every guy that I called out that
that's that I stepped up. You know,

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the fight has been made. But
all that here and there, and

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now you know Ryan Garcia has stepped
up to the play and that's the fight

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now. So after you left behind
the lightweight division and you went up in

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December to move into the junior wealthweight
division and you fought for the WBC title,

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Devin, you didn't just beat regist
Progra you and take the title.

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You dropped him, You shut him
out. It was one hundred and twenty

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two, one hundred and seven on
all three scorecards. Now, I know

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that you were very confident in winning
that fight, and program sounded confident that

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he was going to win the fight
also, but there wasn't even really any

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rounds that were close. Did you
even in your mind, in your best

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imagination to think that you'd be I'm
not going to say it was easy,

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but did you would make it look
that easy? Vietnam? That was that

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was you know, the game plan
to go in there, to execute to

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handicaplan and make it as easy as
possible. So I did if I stepped

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the game plan, and you know, I trusted the game plan that it

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would work out, and it did. But Devin twelve to nothing, come

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on, yeah, I mean that's
that's what I do. That's what I

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uh. I pitched shutouts, and
you know, I go in there and

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I'm taking away the guy's best thing
that they that they do and once you

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once you, once you do that, once you handicap them, they they

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have no answers. I mean,
that's that's a good point. That was.

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I mean, you know, of
all your fights that you've had,

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as dominating as you were against Cambosis
and some of the other fights you've had,

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obviously Loma made it much closer.
But I think am I wrong to

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say that, at least to me
looking at it, that's the best performance

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you've ever had. Was because of
the caliber of the opponent, the moving

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up and wait uh winning a win. Another title was that? Is that

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the best performance you've had so far? Do you think? Yeah? I

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mean I think so. I think
up to day for sure, that was

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my best performance, especially because you
know the fort the fight they were saying

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that you know, Reges was was
was number one guy in one forty.

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Now you know they they act like
he was just any any Joe blow They

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said it was just you know,
he was It was set up for me

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to me, for me to go
in there and do that. But at

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a point he was the number one
guy who a lot of guys were duck

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and a lot of guys weren't didn't
want to fight. So I went in

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there, I think I went up
to didn't you know take a tulip fighter

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or anything like that, chose the
best guy and uh pissed a shout out,

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went in there and heard him,
you know, beat him and and

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now and so yeah, I definitely
doubt that was my best performance. You're

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only twenty five years old, and
we just listed off all of the various

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accomplishments that you have had in the
kinds of opponents you have beaten. And

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at twenty five, for a lot
of fighters, they're not even in their

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prime, or at least they're just
entering their prime. Do you feel like

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you're in your prime yet? Are
you? Are you entering your prime?

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I mean, and you've already you
know, you've got thirty one fights,

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so it's not like you're a young
fighter in the game in terms of the

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number of fights. But where do
you where do you view yourself in terms

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of the arc of your career?
Yeah, I mean I'm still too you

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know, young, still got a
lot of growing a lot of mature to

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do in a ring. I'm getting
better and better at each fight, getting

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stronger, getting more mature had the
ring and in the ring, So I

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don't think I'm in my prime yet, but you know I'm definitely you know,

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I'm you know, the on upwards, like you know I'm on the

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upwards for sure. Yeah, I
would agree with that. Uh, before

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you guys were able to make this
match between yourself and and Garcia, you

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know, he was gonna maybe fight
Roly Romero. They had a deal and

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then Roly kind of left him at
the altar, so to speak, and

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he went and took the fight against
Pitt Bull Cruise. When that was sort

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of unfolding, what was sort of
like your backup plan if you weren't going

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to get Ryan Garcia. I know
you're fighting him now, but what was

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in your mind as far as what
you may have done if you weren't able

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to land that big fight. Yeah, I mean I was looking at a

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guy like Mario Barrios at one he
was very premature talks. But we were

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looking at a guy like that,
We were looking at him that we were

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looking at a few different guys.
So he's very very very very premature talks.

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Understand Uh. It seems to me
like you have sort of you and

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your father, you know, Bill
Haney, your manager, your trainer.

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Did you guys have kind of taken
a page out of the Canelo playbook and

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if you go back even further,
the Sugar Ray Leonard playbook where you work

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with different promoters. You've done short
term deals. Obviously you were with match

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Room for a period of time,
but then you went over and you had

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you know, three fights under the
deal with Top Rank and Debella. That

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was so you could get the Cambosas
fight, and you fought Lomachenko. Then

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you went back to Eddie, who
you're with, I believe on a fight

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by fight basis, even though you
know you continue to work with him.

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How empowering is that for you as
a fighter to know that you and your

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father can really do what you want
to do in terms of the types of

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opponents and where you can have fights. I mean, that was all part

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of the plan. It was.
It was for me to you know,

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not be able to you know,
be handicapped and not be able to not

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make the biggest fights happen, you
know, not not not get to big

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money fights, not have those excuses, be able to control our own destiny.

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And that's what we sayt to UH
since day one, and that's that's

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what we're doing. It is easier
said than done, though, isn't it.

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Oh yeah, I mean for sure, you know, especially in the

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beginning when I wasn't making making any
money, but you know, trusting the

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process and you know, seeing the
bigger picture and knowing that, you know,

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not to sign a long term deal
then because because I didn't have money,

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but to you know, not sign
a long term deal when I didn't

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have money to just you know,
stay disciplined and just you know, just

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trust the process. So now you
got to fight with with Ryan Garcia coming

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up. And then I follow you
on social media and I've watched some of

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the things I saw some of your
media day. You know, you're it

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seems to me like the Devin Haney
that I've been covering for a long time

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is having a normal training camp,
preparing hard, getting ready for the fight,

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and your opponent, Ryan Garcia,
UH is off making like crazy amounts

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of social media videos and posts every
single day, wild posts about all things

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that are not boxing related, and
to a lot of people seems like he's

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just having like a meltdown. Uh
what do you make of his behavior as

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the guy that's gonna go in the
ring and fight against him? Yeah,

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I mean he he post on his
page is his page, it's his it

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is his platform. You know,
MY main focus is to continue to remain

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focus and you know, keep training
and prepared to dominate him no matter you

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know, if he's if he's all
the way there or not. I can't

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I can't get too an emotionally attached
to that. I got to just focus

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on being the best mee Devin.
There was one post that he put on

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his social media where he literally said, quote his mission is to kill you

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in the ring. That that that
offended me to be fight hous. I've

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been doing this a long time.
I've been at fights where I've been at

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fights where you said something about that. Yeah, yeah I did. I

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mean I've been at I've been at
boxing matches where unfortunately, men have died

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because of this sport. Uh.
You know, I like to see a

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good fight, I think like anybody, but I certainly don't want to see

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anybody die in the ring or get
seriously injured. It's it's not fun to

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cover, it's not fun to watch. It's bad for everybody involved, the

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person that's injured, the opponent,
the whole industry, the everything. When

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you see that your opponent says that
without any like smiley face or saying he's

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joking or anything like that, how
does that make you feel when he says

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he's literally his mission is to kill
you. Yeah, well, we know

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that that Brian Garcie is a TikTok
or YouTuber actor, whatever you want to

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call himself. I don't take nothing
that he says. Series. At the

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end of the day, this this, this is a brutal sport and every

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time, every time we go in
there, every risk our lives and we

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know that. So you know,
whatever, what what whatever he's playing is

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set out to do, it won't
work. He won't have no esser for

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me on So let him say what
he want to say. I'll uh,

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I'll just you know, take it
out on an USA and make and make

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a lot of people happy. Do
you feel like that he is doing all

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this crazy behavior, whether it's the
videos and the post and just sort of

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the kind of off the rails behavior
to somehow sell a fight, or do

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you think he truly is sort of
like table and need some help. I

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don't know, I said, you
know, mostly involved in that. I

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don't know. I don't know.
My main focus is just focused on me,

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you know, similar to when I
was fighting a guy like like Loma.

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Loma didn't he wasn't saying anything,
he wasn't talking. We weren't here

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from for hearing from him. But
I had to just focus on being the

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best meat that I could be.
So similar to this, you know,

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he's doing a lot of talking the
same thing. Just tunnel vision to keep

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my blinder his own and stay focused. You've always truck me Devin as the

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kind of guy that tries to not
get too high, not get too low,

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and really just sort of maintain like
an even keel and leaning into your

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fights in the boxing match itself.
Is that am I am? I right

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on the on the sort of your
mentality about going into things and dealing with

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the fight. There's always a lot
of drama with Ryan though, whether it's

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you know, be like for example, the Tank Davis fight, before and

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and during and after and after the
fight, a lot of people said that

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they thought, because of the way
that the fight ended, that he when

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he went down on the knee,
he got knocked down, that he quit,

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that he could have got up,
that he didn't seem hurt, that

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he was looking at the referee and
he just decided to not fight on.

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Do you think that he quit in
that fight? Absolutely to watch the fight.

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As soon as the guy, as
soon as the rep was done counting,

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he got right up. I just
see. I just think that he

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was, you know, felt like
he was over a match. I don't

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know if he maybe he did.
Maybe he did have some you know,

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just traction going into the fight before, I mean going into the fight.

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So once he you know, he
felt like he had no answers, he

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just was like, all right,
I'm done. You think you can make

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him do the same thing? And
I asked you that because it seems to

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me that once a boxer decides to
quit in a fight, it becomes easier

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to do it the next time.
If it comes to that. Yeah,

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I mean once you once you quit, you know how to quit. You

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you've seen it that that that is
an answer, that that is a solution.

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So, like I said, I
don't think that April twenty and for

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being different, I think I see
him quitting. I see you know him

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him quitting or you know his coach
Carl and fight off when it when when

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it gets hot. Now, I
saw some stuff recently that the New York

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State Athletic Commission wanted to give him
a mental health evaluation because of all the

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stuff that was going on. As
we've been talking about, are you are

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you confident? I know you're training, You're gonna be ready for the fight?

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Are confident? But he's actually gonna
make it to the ring that night?

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And if he doesn't, is there
a backup plan? For example?

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I know, like the excellent contender, undefeated Arnold Barbosa is on the card,

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or are you is all the eggs
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to the ring? Yeah? No, I mean I don't have any questions

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that Ryan is going to show up
Ryan. Ryan is going to show up

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on the to the fight. Uh
right now? Ryan, whatever go playing

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for? But I don't see,
I don't see happened. I see only

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being right Okay. When they made
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people Devin were surprised that it wound
up taking place, uh and being placed

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at the Barclay Center in Brooklyn,
which is a very excellent arena. They've

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had a lot of boxing events there, but most people thought this was going

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to be in Vegas. What are
your thoughts about coming east for a world

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title fight? Your last fight was
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back in you know where you were, where you were born in in the

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Bay Area. Yeah, I'm excited
for you, right. I will always

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happens to come back to New York, and I think I think it's gonna

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be be It's that type of fight. It was. It would be a

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big event no matter where we fought, So I'm not mad at I'm not

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mad at at New York one bit. Oh, I'm glad to hear that.

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It's as like I said, it's
a great arena. You know.

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One of the big talking points of
the fight, besides all the craziness that's

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been going on with Ryan leading up
to the fight, is the fact that

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you guys are very familiar with each
other. You know each other a long

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time. You had the the six
bouts in the amateur ranks where you had

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split the fights three and three.
Do you think that that has any bearing

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on what's going to take place twenty
third? Is it just good for you

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know, fans and writers to talk
about. Yeah, I mean, I

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don't think you I don't think it
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we're familiar with each other, but
this, the pros is is definitely different,

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and I'm a much better fighter than
our WI wasn't amateurs. I don't

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think that Ryan has gotten much better. But that's for me to show.

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You know, this is when he
counts for autumn marbles for everything, just

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the one that that really means something. Yeah, no doubt. I mean,

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I think they're saying this one counts. I saw in some of the

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taglines on the artwork and stuff.
You know, besides, besides the matchup

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you have with with Garcia, in
the fact you already defeated program, You're

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in a really, you know,
good weight class that's got a lot of

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talented fighters in at T tim Me
Lopez is a champion of the w BO,

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the lineal champion. He got Sabrill
Mattias, who's the IBF champion.

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You know, Tank Davis has fought
in this weight class before. Perhaps he'll

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move up. You know, Roly
Romero and Pitbull Cruiser in the weight class.

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What sorts of big fights do you
have in your mind if everything goes

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the way you expected to go against
Ryan Garcia, and you come out with

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yet another victory in still undefeated and
still champion. All those guys, all

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those guys are my head. Obviously, my main focus is is Ryan,

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but all those guys are can Can
Can Can? You know, Postcoose fights

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right after this one, he stuck
around at lightweight for a long time and

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then you obviously came up. Now
you're in the jerim welterweight division. You

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feel like you're gonna stick around in
this weight class for the number of years

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or you also have your eyes you
know, in the nearer future on the

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welterweight division. Yeah, no,
I want to. I want to.

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I want to fight out both,
you know. I want to make the

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biggest fights happened, the best fighters
in the world. So wherever wherever that

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that takes me, it takes me. But I'm interested in the one forty

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division right now. You know excites
me. Spa price if you made and

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uh, we'll see. Well,
we're gonna see. And I'll tell you

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one thing. I'm looking forward to
seeing you and Ryan Garcia in the ring

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call me about twenty at his old
pay per view. Uh, I think

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it's gonna be a very interesting fight. I appreciate your time very much.

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Devian has always your gentlemen. Thank
you so much for doing us Yes,

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