WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:06.440 The opinions expressed by Chayo Busquets are supported by his extensive experience as a family 2 00:00:06.879 --> 00:00:12.160 therapist and in the previous analysis of the cases presented here. Welcome, this 3 00:00:12.359 --> 00:00:23.399 is Chayo Contigo, in jewel, we begin very good afternoon to everyone as 4 00:00:23.440 --> 00:00:28.399 I am Chayo Busquets, this is Chayo with you and we are ready to 5 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:34.479 start today' s program, hoping that it is flowing very well this week 6 00:00:34.600 --> 00:00:41.200 Holy Week Major, as it is known, who are working, well, 7 00:00:41.359 --> 00:00:44.479 I hope that they give them Thursday and Friday and therefore today they already have 8 00:00:44.640 --> 00:00:50.560 that spirit of ay now hears already for those who have been able to take 9 00:00:50.560 --> 00:00:57.200 the full week of vacation. Well, welcome to Chayo Contigo and notice that 10 00:00:57.240 --> 00:01:06.560 one of the topics that undoubtedly puts them and I speak puts them thinking specifically 11 00:01:06.840 --> 00:01:12.879 about the young kids who are on vacation and who, therefore, may be 12 00:01:14.000 --> 00:01:19.200 listening to the program, although this also happens to the big ones in many 13 00:01:19.359 --> 00:01:26.280 times, is the scenic panic, this anxiety, this nerve that feels to 14 00:01:26.439 --> 00:01:32.040 speak in public and that often makes us good with all the symptoms of anxiety 15 00:01:32.239 --> 00:01:41.159 at its maximum proportion. Those who have not experienced anxiety crises, good panic 16 00:01:41.200 --> 00:01:47.079 attacks and are afraid to speak in public and get super nervous and sweaty and 17 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:52.480 sweat cold and beat their heart and begin to feel that something is going to 18 00:01:52.599 --> 00:01:55.640 fail and that the voice does not come out and that they do not breathe 19 00:01:55.640 --> 00:01:59.439 normally. And so on, well, they already have a little taste, 20 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:07.280 but they already have a taste of what panic attacks are. And overcoming stage 21 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:13.560 panic is very important. First, because in different ways, starting with school, 22 00:02:13.919 --> 00:02:17.960 you have to make team presentations, jobs that have to be presented, 23 00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:23.400 projects that have to be presented. The day of the professional exam will come 24 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:30.240 and you will have to speak in public. Sometimes they even have doubts about 25 00:02:30.400 --> 00:02:35.039 what happens, what happens in class, what they don' t understand. 26 00:02:37.599 --> 00:02:43.840 They stop even expressing their opinion on some topic they consider significant because they cannot 27 00:02:44.039 --> 00:02:51.560 speak in public and something we all have to learn for life. But this 28 00:02:51.879 --> 00:02:58.599 is especially addressed to you, teenage kids, college kids, something that is 29 00:02:58.639 --> 00:03:07.840 very important. Then never let because something gives you anxiety you better avoid it. 30 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:12.199 We have to face it. And for that there is a clear pattern 31 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:17.280 that I always give, and that is that speaking in public is learned by 32 00:03:17.319 --> 00:03:24.879 speaking in public. You can do simulations in front of the mirror of your 33 00:03:25.759 --> 00:03:30.080 home, you can rehearse it in your mind, you can learn the content 34 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:35.680 from memory. But the reality is that the experience of speaking in public is 35 00:03:35.719 --> 00:03:40.479 acquired by speaking in public. Yes, it' s good that you suddenly 36 00:03:40.520 --> 00:03:46.879 feel your friends, your family members and tell them to let me introduce you 37 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:51.080 to what I' m going to present at school tomorrow so they can tell 38 00:03:51.159 --> 00:03:57.360 me, so that they can see what I hesitate so that they can point 39 00:03:58.120 --> 00:04:00.439 me out in the end, but the truth is that you learn how to 40 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:04.800 do it. Some situations that lead us not to want to speak in public 41 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:10.680 must be made aware. And before that, I want to make a difference. 42 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:17.319 One thing is that I feel sorry for myself because I am more introverted 43 00:04:17.360 --> 00:04:20.759 and therefore I feel sorry to speak in public. I don' t like 44 00:04:20.759 --> 00:04:29.720 it. And another thing is to develop anxiety and anguish in front of speaking 45 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:33.920 in public where, when we overcome, anxiety and anguish may not be your 46 00:04:33.959 --> 00:04:41.279 favorite activity, but not that limiting and it is very important to learn to 47 00:04:41.279 --> 00:04:49.639 face and overcome when something is related to anxiety and anguish. Making this difference. 48 00:04:50.839 --> 00:04:54.920 Yeah, you' re probably the kind of guy who' s never 49 00:04:54.959 --> 00:05:00.959 gonna like to talk in public, you' re gonna prefer another kind of 50 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:06.079 interaction and learning scheme, and it' s okay, but you' re 51 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:14.199 gonna have a lot of fun if you get over the anxiety that that triggers, 52 00:05:15.959 --> 00:05:15.480 and it just stays like an activity that you don' t like what 53 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:24.360 it usually gives us. When there is anxiety, there is usually a lot 54 00:05:24.480 --> 00:05:30.480 of fear and, in general, there is a fear of disappointing others, 55 00:05:30.839 --> 00:05:38.879 a fear of ridicule or not being accepted by others. It is important for 56 00:05:38.920 --> 00:05:46.519 you to detect which of these fears are present in IT when the situation is 57 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:54.160 generated in such a specific, so intense, so particular way, because, 58 00:05:54.399 --> 00:05:59.959 once you become aware of this, the truth is that we have all grown 59 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:03.600 up in a city, in a competitive society that is seeking perfection and acceptance 60 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:09.199 of others. At any cost and just thinking about failing in front of a 61 00:06:09.199 --> 00:06:15.240 group of people who can criticize us, fail our attitude, or make fun 62 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:20.759 of us. It certainly makes us tremble. But one of the things you 63 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:25.920 ' d have to think about is that the concept of perfection that we have 64 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:30.120 is totally unreal. No one' s perfect, no one' s doing 65 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:36.439 things totally right. We all make mistakes and even mistakes are necessary, because 66 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:40.600 from there we learn. And if what scares you is that you won' 67 00:06:40.680 --> 00:06:45.639 t be able to face the joke or the mockery or the criticism, then 68 00:06:45.720 --> 00:06:55.600 there we are talking about another skill to develop. For I especially thank you, 69 00:06:55.720 --> 00:07:02.240 Pedro, for coming, because we are in the middle of Holy Week 70 00:07:02.279 --> 00:07:04.720 and I don' t know if you were going to take vacations. Chayo 71 00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:09.199 I am delighted to be here this one and I will tell you what I 72 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:13.720 say to my patients. Unfortunately, this disease has no holidays, no holidays 73 00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:16.519 or this truth. Then he didn' t love it. Nice to meet 74 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:19.920 you. I thank you for the effort to come to Peter. Hey, 75 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:30.600 we discussed this topic of functional alcoholism last week. No and you said good, 76 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:33.160 since we used the word alcoholic, because we' re already talking about 77 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:41.920 a problem and I was saying good. Some say my way of relating to 78 00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:49.240 alcohol is functional. What' s the line that would tell us that the 79 00:07:49.240 --> 00:07:57.040 way you relate to alcohol has already crossed because maybe I have endurance. I 80 00:07:57.160 --> 00:08:01.000 do not take it with a frequency that I consider relative. I take the 81 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:05.639 week, I take the weekend. I can' t just get drunk. 82 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:16.199 I' m not raw often, but how do I know I' m 83 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:22.240 in danger, because, well, I never get drunk, but I do 84 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:26.480 consume what with a certain frequency. I trust him, no, I think 85 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:28.680 I' ll see him here. The first thing I think has to be 86 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:31.879 done is that out there they say that when there is doubt, there is 87 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:35.600 no doubt. I don' t mean when I start asking myself, because 88 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:39.600 I think the most important thing is to recognize if I' m already beginning 89 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:41.759 to ask myself, that I can have a problem, and that maybe it 90 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:46.440 ' s important, at least, that I get an assessment to know if 91 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:46.519 I have this disease or I don' t have it. Okay, because 92 00:08:46.639 --> 00:08:50.000 if there are times that the person might not meet the criteria, but maybe 93 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:54.799 sometimes the family does on their own background, so sometimes it is heard on 94 00:08:54.799 --> 00:09:01.759 the radio, on television, etcetera, etcetera. You may think that because 95 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:05.960 the person already got drunk, maybe he' s already an alcoholic and when 96 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:07.519 maybe he doesn' t meet the critters yet to be able to do it. 97 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:13.639 So yes, it is important that both the person who is consuming the 98 00:09:15.080 --> 00:09:20.799 substance and his relative may advise and seek an evaluation from a specialist. When 99 00:09:20.799 --> 00:09:24.080 it starts to affect you, when in some area of your life, to 100 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:28.519 see addictions are not likely to impact you in all areas of your life. 101 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:31.320 At the same time, it' s going to be little by little, 102 00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:33.960 it' s going to have an impact. Maybe for some people it can 103 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:39.159 be in the family. For other people? Maybe it can be physically for 104 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:43.960 other people It can be legal because I' ve already had an alutorito, 105 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:46.240 et cetera, et cetera. So, when there is already an impact in 106 00:09:46.279 --> 00:09:50.440 the areas, I think it is important now if the person, as you 107 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:56.039 say, you drink a lot, this how much he endures, because that 108 00:09:56.120 --> 00:09:58.840 too is not synonymous with us being calm. What the person may have is 109 00:09:58.879 --> 00:10:03.320 this to. It' s already developing a tolerance to alcohol and that can 110 00:10:03.399 --> 00:10:07.879 be one of those that no one can be. It is one of the 111 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:11.440 criteria, along with others, of course, that can lead us to give 112 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:18.480 a diagnosis of substance addiction, when the only area is that of interpersonal relationship 113 00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:28.799 with the significant figure. I don' t know the daddy boy and his 114 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:31.039 dads, the couple who don' t like the way they take it. 115 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:35.360 Not beyond not being drunk because he endures a lot, because he physically tolerates, 116 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:41.879 but he doesn' t like that whenever he goes to the party, 117 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:46.639 he had to drink alcohol, that whenever they went with friends, he has 118 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:48.679 to drink alcohol, that whenever they go to dinner outside the house, he 119 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:54.399 has to order a drink of alcohol at the event that he can' t 120 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:58.519 go to the wedding without having to drink alcohol. What, but it' 121 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:01.720 s only in one person the complaint. But that person is very significant in 122 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:05.879 your life. No yes, because that' s why it causes you a 123 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:11.639 lot of trouble. That would no longer have to be considered meaningfully again or 124 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:16.360 the problem may be in the person the problem. That' s why I 125 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:20.000 said it' s important for the two of you to go for the best, 126 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:24.039 you get close to an assessment, because maybe and I say it with 127 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:30.480 all due respect, with some of your listeners, it might be that the 128 00:11:30.519 --> 00:11:33.960 other person also has a codependency and is seeing things where they' re probably 129 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:35.519 not paying present. I don' t mean to see, and I think 130 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:39.919 one thing that' s also important is that we mention that we' re 131 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:41.799 not demonizing alcohol here, let alone. That is, there are many people, 132 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:48.639 fortunately who can enjoy drinking alcohol without developing the disease. Not then this 133 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:52.279 Sometimes there are people who just don' t tolerate someone seeing alcohol when they 134 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:56.600 might have a control over the drink. Not that it is also one of 135 00:11:56.679 --> 00:12:00.279 the criteria for talking about alcoholism or dependence is that the person who loses control 136 00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:05.840 during the substance any sectud. Peter so many thanks to your command Chayo. 137 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:09.440 I hope that at least they will let you rest Thursday Friday so that you 138 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:18.919 make four days possible to take, because finally, today we have the possibility 139 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:24.120 to have our children on vacation and, therefore, the possibility to approach topics 140 00:12:24.159 --> 00:12:28.320 of this nature that, because of the time, they cannot always listen. 141 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:37.799 Before the segment with Peter we were talking about this which is so important to 142 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:43.279 develop, which has to do with how we speak in public and, well, 143 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:48.679 in general, all human beings at some point, in less or more, 144 00:12:48.039 --> 00:12:54.720 we will be exposed to this. But I have addressed these segments a 145 00:12:54.759 --> 00:13:01.679 lot to the children and teenagers, because I take advantage that they are at 146 00:13:01.720 --> 00:13:05.240 home, that they are on vacation and that they have the possibility to listen 147 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:07.120 to chayo with you that for school reasons, they cannot do it. Normally 148 00:13:09.159 --> 00:13:15.000 and a little while ago I would talk to them sometimes things we have to 149 00:13:15.000 --> 00:13:20.480 do. It stops us from fear, criticism or mockery. And one thing 150 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:31.200 that we always need to get into the head is that our life has to 151 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:37.120 always expand in the repertoire of behaviors that we need to develop, because we 152 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:41.240 don' t know what kind of future life is going to touch us or 153 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:43.320 what situations we' re going to have to face. So, from that 154 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:50.639 context and from that vision, it' s very important to understand that anything 155 00:13:50.919 --> 00:13:58.600 that makes you become someone that avoids situations because of fear the discomfort that involves 156 00:13:58.600 --> 00:14:03.600 facing them, rather than expanding the repertoire of behaviors and abilities, diminishes and 157 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:11.600 limits them and when that limits you. In that context, it is very 158 00:14:11.879 --> 00:14:18.799 important to understand that part of that that gives rise and that is generated, 159 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:24.639 is going to leave you impoverished, impoverished with respect to your abilities to face 160 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:33.120 life. Criticized we will always be thinking of criticism as this behavior presented by 161 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:39.320 other human beings that you have presented also where you give your opinion regarding the 162 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:46.720 acting of other people. That' s a criticism. There are respectful criticisms. 163 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:50.919 There are disrespectful criticisms. Of course, we are very afraid of him, 164 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:58.240 much more afraid of disrespectful criticisms that are accompanied by mockery. And there 165 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:05.360 of the skills that must also be developed is the ability to relate to the 166 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:09.840 joke and to the mockery, even if it comes with bad milk and with 167 00:15:09.919 --> 00:15:13.240 saneness on the part of the other. From a place where we learn to 168 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:20.480 defend ourselves. And defending ourselves does not imply attacking or striking, simply putting 169 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:28.600 a limit on the other person. And there it becomes important that whenever there 170 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:35.000 is a joke, there is a mockery, you are able to turn around 171 00:15:35.039 --> 00:15:41.200 and see in the eyes who is being mocked and you can hold your gaze. 172 00:15:41.559 --> 00:15:43.679 You' re going to realize that the one who mocks the low, 173 00:15:45.240 --> 00:15:48.679 keeps laughing and keeps talking nonsense, but he' s going to look down 174 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:56.919 because it takes a lot of courage to keep his eyes up to see the 175 00:15:56.960 --> 00:15:58.720 other and hold it unless he' s using the aggression. The person who 176 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:03.759 is making fun of you or who is criticizing you, because then, with 177 00:16:03.879 --> 00:16:07.159 an ironic look, is going to keep saying what he has to say and 178 00:16:07.159 --> 00:16:14.559 sometimes you have to learn to generate some ideas or some say that it is 179 00:16:14.600 --> 00:16:22.240 logans or phrases that help you to engage. One wouldn' t say conversation, 180 00:16:22.759 --> 00:16:26.879 because you can' t talk like that. But one answer is often 181 00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:30.240 mocked by others, and it also happens in adult life. Don' t 182 00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:34.600 think that' s over with the school stage. It happens in adult life. 183 00:16:37.000 --> 00:16:42.720 The theme is how I can turn my eyes, look at those who 184 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:48.240 are making an unfortunate comment, a criticism, a mockery, an imitation. 185 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:59.120 You have to take into consideration that you can say things like always looking in 186 00:16:59.440 --> 00:17:06.119 your eyes and taking care of your body posture to be right, right looking 187 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:11.440 in your eyes and saying something very brief, things like that that you say 188 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:21.640 talk worse about you than about me things like I might have been wrong and 189 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:27.079 I may seem worthy of mockery and imitation, but at least I dare to 190 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:33.960 try to learn and make things phrases. As one of the reasons I' 191 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:42.799 m not interested in your friendship is just how you treat others when there are 192 00:17:42.839 --> 00:17:51.160 laughter from those who accompany the person. It is also important that you can 193 00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:56.880 make a comment as you feel very brave and able to do this because you 194 00:17:56.000 --> 00:18:03.759 have all these surrounding you and approving what you do, but what sadness it 195 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:08.119 must feel when you are left alone with how you feel about the kind of 196 00:18:08.160 --> 00:18:18.440 person you are becoming. If this is too long, you can answer things 197 00:18:19.640 --> 00:18:26.480 like may Yes, you' re right, I look funny or funny with 198 00:18:26.519 --> 00:18:32.359 that imitation that the person is doing. No, yeah, I look funny, 199 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:37.920 and I did. I have no problem accepting it and you turn around 200 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:44.799 and leave. You have to keep ignoring the comments that are going to continue 201 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:48.119 behind this, but you always have to think that when there is a joke, 202 00:18:49.319 --> 00:18:59.519 when there is a mockery, when the other presents in unfortunate attitudes, 203 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:11.720 in reality, what is there is a great insecurity, a lack of self 204 00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:18.680 - esteem that requires the temporary pleasure and the recognition of those around it to 205 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:22.759 be able to act. So don' t go away with the fake insurance 206 00:19:22.279 --> 00:19:26.240 that may seem or sure that people who make fun of you may seem, 207 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:36.240 because you actually only give what you bring in your heart. Or I would 208 00:19:36.359 --> 00:19:45.319 end the program by telling you, Telling you to IT college teen boy, 209 00:19:45.400 --> 00:19:49.880 you don' t necessarily go to college, but you' re college age 210 00:19:52.240 --> 00:20:00.759 and you suffer some kind of joke joke about this it' s very important 211 00:20:00.799 --> 00:20:07.200 that you take into consideration that they' re all growing up and that the 212 00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:12.759 fact that you' re a kid, that you' re a teenager, 213 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:19.240 that you' re almost an adult, always gives you the chance to think 214 00:20:19.319 --> 00:20:26.160 about what kind of person you want to become, what you want to do 215 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:30.119 forward, how you want to function in the day to day and what you 216 00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:30.119 ' re ashamed of and what you like about yourself, because we' re 217 00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:34.039 building ourselves on the way. Many times you think that adults are done. 218 00:20:34.920 --> 00:20:38.519 We are already very clear, we already know that when you reach adult life, 219 00:20:40.039 --> 00:20:44.920 there is nothing more to mobilize from us. And the reality is that 220 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:48.279 yes, yes, there are things that we can mobilize from us. Yes, 221 00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:55.599 there are things we can do different around who we are and how we 222 00:20:55.599 --> 00:21:00.559 are. And that capacity you don' t have to lose. It' 223 00:21:00.599 --> 00:21:06.559 s true that today you have people in your life who tell you, authorities 224 00:21:06.559 --> 00:21:07.640 who tell you. That' s wrong. This is why you' re 225 00:21:07.640 --> 00:21:11.039 scolded. That' s why you' re grounded. This can' t 226 00:21:11.119 --> 00:21:15.160 get your attention, that you get big rolls around the educational process. But 227 00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:22.960 the truth is that these people are only a guide. At the end of 228 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:27.359 the day, the decisions of who you become and how you decide to accommodate 229 00:21:27.440 --> 00:21:34.079 your life experiences are yours. It was a pleasure to be with you this 230 00:21:36.200 --> 00:21:41.599 day, to have you as you listen to the mail for which you can 231 00:21:41.680 --> 00:21:45.160 write, send doubts and so on. It is chayo Arroba Radio Centro com 232 00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:51.119 or you can also do it by following me through the networks where what you 233 00:21:51.160 --> 00:21:56.000 manage wonderfully, which are social networks. They can do it through the private 234 00:21:56.079 --> 00:22:00.880 part of the networks and write to me. He does not find on Facebook 235 00:22:00.960 --> 00:22:08.240 as Rosario Busquets, in what was Twitter today X as Arroba chayo BN and 236 00:22:08.319 --> 00:22:15.720 on Instagram and on Tiktok as Chayo buskets. I hope you have an extraordinary 237 00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:19.119 afternoon and don' t miss the programs that we have for you this Thursday 238 00:22:19.839 --> 00:22:26.720 and Friday, because they are programs that you asked, that we generated again, 239 00:22:26.799 --> 00:22:34.319 that we passed again, because you didn' t have the opportunity to 240 00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:37.079 listen to them and that had a particular impact on the audience. One of 241 00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:44.200 them is a couple. We' ll have our specialist Tariytron' s program 242 00:22:44.200 --> 00:22:52.920 again. So I' m expecting you here in Chayo tomorrow. With you Audio Center