WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.439 --> 00:00:07.679 Breaking down the all the xs and os. It's Steve Lemon and Jaden Summits. 2 00:00:07.879 --> 00:00:15.720 This is I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen Fifmy. They welcome 3 00:00:15.720 --> 00:00:19.199 back to EI the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Young Steve, 4 00:00:19.239 --> 00:00:24.359 He's Jay got our guys, Sammy, this is exactly what this is why, 5 00:00:24.559 --> 00:00:26.960 this is why we need, Dammy, this is the why we need 6 00:00:27.800 --> 00:00:31.719 It's like two old dudes trying to figure stuff out and we used to change 7 00:00:31.760 --> 00:00:37.159 the channel like this, right, let's give this a try. This is 8 00:00:37.200 --> 00:00:42.240 I on the Ball breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. So we'll go 9 00:00:42.280 --> 00:00:45.359 with We'll go with Sammy's first and jump in on any of the Sammy if 10 00:00:45.359 --> 00:00:49.240 you want to go with Sammy's thing that he told us about Janni's attend to 11 00:00:49.280 --> 00:00:54.200 Kompo, right, yeah, you know said today publicly and I remember to 12 00:00:54.240 --> 00:00:58.159 who that because he was asked, you know, do you want to stay 13 00:00:58.159 --> 00:01:00.640 with the Milwaukee Bucks, and he said, I'm a winner her first, 14 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:03.079 but you know he said, I'll stay with the Box, but the most 15 00:01:03.120 --> 00:01:07.959 important thing is winning. And he's basically saying I'll go to where I think 16 00:01:07.959 --> 00:01:12.560 I can have the best chance of winning. So that's called the Slim Reaper 17 00:01:14.799 --> 00:01:19.120 conversations. The Slim Reaper. Yes, that's the that's what's his name in 18 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:23.359 Phoenix, Go with Katie wherever he can go to wine and who he can 19 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:29.519 play with. But that's that's He is a winner. But is he won 20 00:01:29.640 --> 00:01:33.280 up there? He won in Milwaukee? Yeah he did, should have too, 21 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:38.519 but but he didn't. But he didn't did or didn't get that first 22 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:45.680 down? But uh, anyways, so I'll stick with it with with the 23 00:01:45.799 --> 00:01:49.640 NBA on this one because this one's really dumb. Dwight Howard, who I 24 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:57.280 think we all is pretty much through as threatened threatened that he's gonna go play 25 00:01:57.280 --> 00:02:00.719 for Taiwan if he doesn't get a chance to playing on team you're saying the 26 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:05.519 Olympics. Oh no, we we'll enjoy Taiwan. Yeah, go for it, 27 00:02:05.599 --> 00:02:08.280 Hopeby like the food. Knock yourself out. How old is he? 28 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:14.479 Like forty five? He's not forty yet? No, he's not about thirty 29 00:02:14.479 --> 00:02:16.479 eight. Ye, Superman has snuff. But you know, because they're putting 30 00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:21.159 the team together, right, they put the band together. Lebron James says 31 00:02:21.159 --> 00:02:27.680 he's in Durant. I think is in uh I saw uh Devin Booker said, 32 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:32.960 I remember, I can't remember. Devin Booker said he's in. So 33 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:36.360 you know they're trying to get because you know, they didn't win that. 34 00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:39.479 They didn't win the World Championship. Uh uh this recently and so now all 35 00:02:39.520 --> 00:02:45.000 these guys say we gotta go win this. So and Dwight Howard thinks he's 36 00:02:45.039 --> 00:02:49.360 one of them. Kind of crazy. Some fallout from the uh, from 37 00:02:49.719 --> 00:02:55.000 the Aaron Rodgers injury is that NFL players are being very loud saying we want 38 00:02:55.240 --> 00:03:00.840 grass, we want grass. Artificial turf is bad. We know it. 39 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:05.479 You know it's cost effected. Yetta, yea, yetta. Look we're a 40 00:03:05.680 --> 00:03:08.280 rich league. Put in the damn grass. But uh, you know a 41 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:10.520 lot of you know, people saying, I mean, did you there was 42 00:03:10.560 --> 00:03:15.879 a slow motion thing of replay of Roger You can see right when it's Achilles 43 00:03:15.919 --> 00:03:21.159 pop. How could you see that because you see his calf up kind of 44 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:23.759 yeah, you can see that there was a rupture. Really you can see 45 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:27.840 his calf kind of pop. Today's very slow motion. Uh. You know, 46 00:03:27.960 --> 00:03:30.479 he planted his left you know, he was being sacked and he planted 47 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:32.800 his left foot and he was going down. You can just see the thing 48 00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:38.360 pop, that's pretty scientific game. I mean, honestly, come on, 49 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:40.439 you you know, and the and the and the and the and the thinking 50 00:03:40.560 --> 00:03:45.360 being that if it had been grass, you know, the turf would have 51 00:03:45.400 --> 00:03:47.800 given and he probably he might not have. It was taken taken for him 52 00:03:49.080 --> 00:03:52.039 for Rogers to get hurt, not the other dudes, not not the other 53 00:03:52.120 --> 00:03:55.360 five hundred guys that are blown acls and everything else. Right, But then 54 00:03:55.400 --> 00:04:00.520 now Aaron Rodgers got hurt. Now and then Roger Goodell is amount and he's 55 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:03.719 claiming that he's heard from a lot of NFL players who love the artificial turf. 56 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:08.360 Well, the argument is this past Super Bowl when it was grass, 57 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:11.719 right, that was it was slipper, biggest thing. But there was a 58 00:04:11.800 --> 00:04:15.079 guy, a guy who had done the Super Bowl turf for a bunch of 59 00:04:15.160 --> 00:04:21.600 years, who said he knew exactly why it uh, they brought the you 60 00:04:21.639 --> 00:04:27.360 know, they'd been watering the turf right because it right, it sat outside 61 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:30.480 right water water. Well, they had watered it and they didn't let it 62 00:04:30.600 --> 00:04:33.639 dry, and they brought it in. It stayed and it stayed slippery, 63 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:36.680 and that that was and it was a new turf, so and it stayed 64 00:04:36.680 --> 00:04:39.839 slippery, and he said it was a very simple thing. They just brought 65 00:04:39.920 --> 00:04:46.439 the turf in too soon for the game. So anyways, I'm a grass 66 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:48.759 guy. I mean, I think the turf in Arizona Stadium looks cool. 67 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:54.199 Most of the time we're in Arizona. You know, we need grass. 68 00:04:55.240 --> 00:04:59.040 Yeah, it's kind of like a lose lose situation right now. Is because 69 00:04:59.240 --> 00:05:02.040 the most recent playing on grass was the Super Bowl. Everyone's like, oh, 70 00:05:02.079 --> 00:05:05.000 it's terrible, and now people are getting hurt on the turf. It's 71 00:05:05.720 --> 00:05:10.360 they're in a tough situation. Yeah. Anyways, Aaron Rodgers put out a 72 00:05:10.839 --> 00:05:13.199 put out I guess I don't know if it was on Instagram or yeah, 73 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:16.360 it was Twitter. It was Instagram. Put out a message thank you to 74 00:05:16.439 --> 00:05:21.399 every person that has reached out, called, texted, dm, connected through 75 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:25.120 a friend, et cetera. It has meant a ton to me and I'll 76 00:05:25.160 --> 00:05:27.360 try and get back to all of you soon. Then he's got a little 77 00:05:27.839 --> 00:05:30.319 a little emoji in a heart. I'm completely heartbroken, moving through all of 78 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:33.399 the emotions, but deeply touched and humbled by the support and love. Then 79 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:36.360 he's got a little broken heart emoji. Please keep me in your thoughts. 80 00:05:36.439 --> 00:05:40.319 And prayers as I begin to heal. As I begin the healing process. 81 00:05:40.360 --> 00:05:43.720 Today the night is dark as before the dawn, and I shall rise yet 82 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:47.120 again proud of my guys one and all. Yeah, what was this contract? 83 00:05:47.199 --> 00:05:53.319 For three five thirty five million, two years for two years something like 84 00:05:53.439 --> 00:05:57.800 that, or seventy million for it's thirty five million a year? Right, 85 00:05:57.839 --> 00:06:00.120 it's a year two heavy? You know that the first he took less money 86 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:04.639 so they could get more guys. Yeah. Yeah, it's not that he's 87 00:06:04.680 --> 00:06:10.720 not capable. But we'll see if he comes back and what what percent he's 88 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:15.120 gonna be. Yeah. So, anyways, on Sunday, there's a game 89 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:21.279 the Rams play the forty nine Ers. It'll mark the first time ever that 90 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:27.920 we've seen a quarterback who was taken number one overall in the NFL draft face 91 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:31.160 a quarterback who was second was selected with the last overall pick. You know, 92 00:06:31.240 --> 00:06:42.920 Brock Purdy against uh Jared Gofft. Matt Stafford, right was in the 93 00:06:43.000 --> 00:06:46.040 Rams. Matt Stafford goes to show you, I mean, I still like 94 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:47.199 Purdy, and I always said this. You know, you can give me 95 00:06:47.240 --> 00:06:49.319 all the talent, you can give me the Rodgers, but you just give 96 00:06:49.360 --> 00:06:53.560 me a dude who wins and who's simple dnks and dunks and get you blah 97 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:56.600 blah blah blah. I'll take that dude the most of the time, I'm 98 00:06:56.639 --> 00:06:59.240 tying. We watched, you know, my son's of forty nine stands. 99 00:06:59.279 --> 00:07:00.639 We watched the game, you know, in San Diego, and we said, 100 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:04.319 we sat down. I mean, he had it's forty nine a shirt 101 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:08.399 on. He put a forty nine shirt on on my grandkid, and we 102 00:07:08.480 --> 00:07:10.879 sat there and watched the game. And I watched the forty nine ers, 103 00:07:11.839 --> 00:07:15.120 you know, expecting to see brock Purty be the last pick of the draft. 104 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:17.639 He was good. Yeah, and I saw that. I saw their 105 00:07:17.680 --> 00:07:20.759 defense, and he said, who's gonna beat these guys? Know they're gonna 106 00:07:20.759 --> 00:07:25.480 be good. You know they're be good. And he's not flashy. Who's 107 00:07:25.519 --> 00:07:28.160 that guy in golf? I don't follow golf? He does. Who's that 108 00:07:28.279 --> 00:07:33.759 dude in golf? The solid yea man, there's so many feel like a 109 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:45.879 like a Xander Shood. I love Makawa. The other guy, I mean, 110 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:48.240 Brian Harmon. I think that's a perfect example right now. He just 111 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:51.160 won the he just won the Open, the British Open, so he'll come 112 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:55.319 up every now and again. But he's got dude that kind of just whittles 113 00:07:55.360 --> 00:08:00.279 away washing Flashy doesn't hit the ball a million yards off the tea. He 114 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:03.360 has great, great short game and he puts the hell out of the ball. 115 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:07.560 And what else do you need in golf? Exactly? Victor Hoblin. 116 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:09.439 Oh yeah, he just won the Tour championship. But he's he's young, 117 00:08:09.519 --> 00:08:13.519 he's twenty five. He hits the ball, he has every shot. Yeah, 118 00:08:13.879 --> 00:08:16.879 but not you just kind of he's just a happy go like, yeah, 119 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:20.480 I've just been a place. Well I love those dudes because I was 120 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:24.800 one of those dudes. Skinny skinny, just do the job, just to 121 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:28.240 the job. Yeah. So but anyway, but I you know, I 122 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:30.600 watched him. I thought, I don't know who's gonna beat those guys, 123 00:08:31.560 --> 00:08:37.159 And again I had I had the feelers running back. I had Naji Harrison 124 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:39.440 that game and he scored like three points. So it's just stuffed. Is 125 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:43.240 there something else you'll need to know? Every guy, he's the kod of 126 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:48.120 this room. He's he don't don't to put money on you because you lose, 127 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:52.320 lose, So anything that he picks or guess who had Rogers in their 128 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:56.720 fantasy camp. Oh yeah, that's just one of the minutes that we've had 129 00:08:56.919 --> 00:09:01.279 to talk about the show. Fair So, so if he drafts someone in 130 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:05.600 a fantasy league, take anyone else. Yeah, are your baseball fan? 131 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:11.240 Yeah, team diame Max. I'm born and raised Phoenix, so any okay, 132 00:09:11.399 --> 00:09:15.120 all right, I can respect that. That's why coming here. Didn't 133 00:09:15.120 --> 00:09:20.200 come from somewhere else to becoming Right, that's okay, You're okay, we're 134 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:24.080 fighting. You pass, you pass? Speaking of that, a former diamondback 135 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:28.480 Max Surez. Yeah, out for the year, right, another big contract, 136 00:09:28.600 --> 00:09:31.399 dude. Well, Darren Ravel posted that Max chers have made ten million 137 00:09:31.480 --> 00:09:35.960 dollars this year, So it comes out to either two hundred and twenty two 138 00:09:37.039 --> 00:09:41.000 thousand dollars an inning because he only pitched forty five innings or two and a 139 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:46.080 half million dollars per win because he only won four games. Out Yeah, 140 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:52.000 out Blinder the other day pitched a pitch to Needle Berlinder. He got crushed. 141 00:09:52.440 --> 00:09:56.759 Yeah, crushed. It's kind of like the next wave of Cy Young 142 00:09:56.840 --> 00:10:01.519 great pictures are kind of coming up and lander although those guys are Yeah, 143 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:05.840 they'll put together a good game here and there, but it's it's more of 144 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:11.320 Clayton Kershaw. Yeah, he seems timeless, but again he's on his way 145 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:13.159 out too. You got the young guys. He's not the dominating guy that 146 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:16.840 clearly. You know. He'll go out there, he'll give you he'll give 147 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:18.440 you six or seven innings, but he might give up four runs and yeah, 148 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:22.879 score some runs for some runs for him to win. Yeah. And 149 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:26.720 then getting back to this thing with Jody Ayler was really funny. He posted 150 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:31.399 a whole piece for that kind of a rant that he had about how the 151 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:35.240 son you know, ASU didn't think it was a huge risk to go get 152 00:10:35.279 --> 00:10:37.080 a guy like Herm Edwards, but they thought it was too much of a 153 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:41.159 risk to go to go out and get a guy like Dion Sanders. And 154 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:43.840 now look what they're missing. So I thought that was very funny. Hey, 155 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:50.600 Arizona Baseball had our friend Jay Dobbins go talk to their team. I'll 156 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:54.200 give him a little motivational talk here during summer ball. There's there's some pictures 157 00:10:54.200 --> 00:11:00.159 of Jay had on backwards. He's still got the gray, uh, the 158 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:03.039 gray little I don't know. I don't even know what you call that thing 159 00:11:03.159 --> 00:11:05.840 underneath his gin. I used to call call him, you know, because 160 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:09.799 my son has one of those, I call it his dust bunny. But 161 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:13.279 Jay Dobbins, he's got that great story of being you know, embedded with 162 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:16.320 the Hell's Angels and all that kind of stuff. So went and gave it, 163 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:20.360 gave a talk his pictures of the guys, and they looked pretty fascinated 164 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:22.399 by, uh by his talk. But have you have you ever heard him 165 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:26.320 do uh, you know, an actually talking about his experience. Yeah, 166 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:28.759 they're very good, Yeah, very good. It's incredible. He did one 167 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:35.879 that uh, one of the Arizona Bowl luncheons, and uh, it's it's 168 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:39.279 kind of amazing. But uh, you know, he's got quite a history. 169 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:41.879 But I wonder, you know, I still wonder why he decided to 170 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:46.440 step away from, uh from coaching football, coaching high school football. Well, 171 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:52.120 he's he's still coaching. He's an assistant coach at UH to one of 172 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:54.519 the school one of the schools. He's an assistant coach. I know this 173 00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:56.399 because we were we were out at some points the other day. Right. 174 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:00.759 Uh, maybe how of you, if you're listening to can send me where 175 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:03.759 he's out because he's he's coaching. Oh I didn't know that he's an assistant 176 00:12:03.799 --> 00:12:07.399 coach, who's who's the one that had the Steve guy is a guy Steve 177 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:13.039 who's had a big big assistant coaches kaire A kir coach KR. I'll get 178 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:16.159 it, I'll get all right. No, I I didn't. I didn't 179 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:18.240 know. I did. I don't know if he was just out there messing 180 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:22.320 around on his uh on his law enforcement retirement or what the deal is, 181 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:28.799 but uh no, it's anyways, he's just a fascinating guy. He really 182 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:31.120 is beyond the you know, being a coach and beyond being a football player, 183 00:12:31.480 --> 00:12:35.360 just the life that he's had in the career that he's had. And 184 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:39.080 uh, you know, he loves you know, he loves getting out there. 185 00:12:39.080 --> 00:12:41.360 And I'm telling people about you know, just being very much motivation about 186 00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:45.360 that. Yeah, no question. And he has that he's he's charismatic, 187 00:12:45.440 --> 00:12:48.120 he's comes on the show, he has all these sayings. You know, 188 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:52.000 it's hard enough to like him. Yeah, yeah, all right, That's 189 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:54.240 all that's all I got, Steve. Okay, you came up with the 190 00:12:54.279 --> 00:12:56.639 Scherzure thing. Uh, I guess the NBA board. Okay, some kind 191 00:12:56.679 --> 00:13:01.799 of testing policy I saw on the ESPN. I'm not sure if it's drugs. 192 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:05.159 Well, and you know, there's there's a lot of discussion that with 193 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:09.799 this, with this thing with Michael Porter, that is they're saying that Kevin 194 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:13.120 Porter, that they have got to they've got to do something at the at 195 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:18.559 the NBA level about you know, a domestic violence like they're saying, they 196 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:22.159 just gotta be a no tolerance policy. You get caught, you're done, 197 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:26.840 You're you're out of the league. Like that. That's tough. It is 198 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:31.279 tough. I'm not saying that's tough bad or tough good. It's just tough 199 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:37.279 with all these rules and laws and and but again, Steve, and I've 200 00:13:37.320 --> 00:13:39.600 always I've always held this opinion about this. You're in the NBA, you're 201 00:13:39.639 --> 00:13:43.440 in the NFL, you're Major League Baseball, whatever, whatever you're doing wherever 202 00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:48.519 you're making money playing a game. That's a privilege. And your standard I 203 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:52.679 don't disagree it has to be higher. Your standard has to be higher than 204 00:13:52.720 --> 00:13:54.840 yours or mine. I don't disagree that. One thing is you're getting paid 205 00:13:54.879 --> 00:13:58.759 a lot of money. Yeah, and you should lose that privilege to do 206 00:13:58.919 --> 00:14:01.519 that if you do thing. First of all, I have a problem with 207 00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:05.000 people getting paid thirty five million dollars a year for anything, for anything, 208 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:07.480 They're not saving a life. But that's just me what I know. But 209 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:11.759 I've always felt that that that you get you get held to a higher standard 210 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:15.720 and you don't you don't get to mess up as much as the rest of 211 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:18.480 us get to mess up. If you're getting the privilege. No, if 212 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:22.519 you were not that dude somewhere in a hospital or something gets which you're done 213 00:14:22.799 --> 00:14:24.759 right, Yeah, exactly, So I don't know, I don't know what 214 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:28.000 what you do there. All right, let's take a break, We're gon 215 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:30.320 come back. We're gonna have West Johnson. We're gonna talk a little bit 216 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:33.840 about Arizona women's triathlon. Uh, just kind of get a lesson on you 217 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:37.440 know, what it is, how it works. But the sport is like 218 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:41.240 at the college level. 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Now on the phone, we have 301 00:20:45.920 --> 00:20:51.519 West Johnson, the University of Arizona Wildcats triathlon coach. Wes. How are 302 00:20:51.519 --> 00:20:53.480 you doing it? Doing great? Yeah? Thanks for having me on. 303 00:20:53.680 --> 00:21:00.720 We got tired of seeing triathlon because there's just too much, two things to 304 00:21:00.799 --> 00:21:06.039 do with that triathlon. You must love it, You've done it most of 305 00:21:06.079 --> 00:21:11.240 your life. I see, Yeah, yeah, I was. I really 306 00:21:11.359 --> 00:21:15.079 enjoyed it up through college, but I thought my main sport was swimming of 307 00:21:15.240 --> 00:21:19.920 the swimmer for University of Utah and then transitions racing at a high level out 308 00:21:19.960 --> 00:21:23.400 of college. But then I had a lot of injuries and stuff from not 309 00:21:23.640 --> 00:21:29.039 running enough growing up and kind of a blow weakbone density, just too much 310 00:21:29.039 --> 00:21:33.880 swimming and non impact sports and so then so I got into coaching really young 311 00:21:34.000 --> 00:21:38.319 and early, and now I've been been just never looked back. So it's 312 00:21:38.400 --> 00:21:42.240 kind of been coaching full time for a long time now. So well, 313 00:21:42.440 --> 00:21:45.960 you know, we've heard of triathlon, you know, for years. You 314 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:48.960 know, then the competitions and you know worldwide competition is that typen thing. 315 00:21:49.000 --> 00:21:52.799 But now it's at the college level. It tell us a little bit about 316 00:21:52.839 --> 00:21:56.720 how this thing is, uh is you know taking hold around. It has 317 00:21:56.799 --> 00:22:00.839 taken hold as I see a she's won the national championship six times. So 318 00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:03.759 it's been around for a while. But you know, how how big of 319 00:22:03.839 --> 00:22:08.599 a sport is it at the college level. You know, it's getting it's 320 00:22:08.599 --> 00:22:14.160 still an emerging sport at the college level, but it's it's it's really picking 321 00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:19.880 up. To make it an official sport US, there has to be at 322 00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:25.559 least over forty schools for for like a three year period, and I think 323 00:22:25.599 --> 00:22:30.000 they're they're they're around forty three schools right now, so I think once we 324 00:22:30.119 --> 00:22:34.279 complete this next season, they're looking into making it. Feeling to that next 325 00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:38.960 level where it'll be ran by NC double in instead of ran by USA Traflon. 326 00:22:40.680 --> 00:22:44.079 So so they're in that phase right now. But it's yeah, adding 327 00:22:44.200 --> 00:22:47.440 adding Arizona was a huge ad who one of you know, one of the 328 00:22:47.480 --> 00:22:51.400 big schools. So there's a few other big schools, you know at a 329 00:22:51.559 --> 00:22:56.680 SU This will be TCUs first season. Uh, Denver's a big school, 330 00:22:56.759 --> 00:23:00.559 San Francisco, So it's it's it's just growing. And now that we're in 331 00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:03.559 the Big twelve, we're hoping that we can get some other Big twelve schools 332 00:23:03.640 --> 00:23:07.880 in it as well. I think Colorado would be a big one. That 333 00:23:07.079 --> 00:23:11.400 their club program is just dominant in the country, so they we're hoping they 334 00:23:11.480 --> 00:23:15.920 add and then see what other Big twelve schools we can convince. So when 335 00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:19.400 the opening came up down here, what did you think, here's my chance 336 00:23:19.559 --> 00:23:25.240 or a great opportunity? What were you thinking? Was it scary? You 337 00:23:25.319 --> 00:23:29.680 know? I never I've been working more for like the US Olympic team and 338 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:36.880 for the last while, and so it wasn't really too much on my radar. 339 00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:42.400 But then when I saw the announcement in Susan and I've been coming here 340 00:23:42.519 --> 00:23:48.640 for winters for years for training camp with professional squads of athletes, and so 341 00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:52.359 I fall in love with Tucson And when I when I saw it announced, 342 00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:56.559 I was almost like trying to convince myself, said it, but you know, 343 00:23:56.880 --> 00:23:59.839 oh, stop worried about that, that's not something you want to do. 344 00:24:00.200 --> 00:24:03.599 Then as I looked more into it, I could not take my mind 345 00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:06.160 off of it, and I started looking into it more and it's just, 346 00:24:06.839 --> 00:24:08.960 you know, after I went through the interview process, I realized, like, 347 00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:12.480 you know, what I'm doing with athletes trying to get to the Olympics 348 00:24:12.640 --> 00:24:15.680 at the top level, it can be done through in c double A and 349 00:24:17.559 --> 00:24:19.640 the support from the school is one percent there, you know, with with 350 00:24:19.759 --> 00:24:22.680 that vision as well, and they have you know, a pretty good legacy 351 00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:27.359 of Olympians here at the UFA. So it aligned is really well with with 352 00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:33.720 my vision and what the goals were of you know how I'm trying to get 353 00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:37.359 athletes at that level and and I think because of that, we're able to 354 00:24:37.640 --> 00:24:41.319 really bring some of the top athletes from all over the world from who are 355 00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:45.240 trying to get to the Olympic level to they're they're all very interested in coming. 356 00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:48.720 So so I think it's happening, and we're probably going to see some 357 00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:52.039 athletes in the LA Olympics and twenty eight coming from this program. Okay, 358 00:24:52.079 --> 00:24:56.759 so you take that, you take this job, and you're starting a program. 359 00:24:56.640 --> 00:24:59.319 You know, how do you start from scratch? You know, what 360 00:24:59.400 --> 00:25:02.200 are the first You got to go get a coaching staff, right, and 361 00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:04.440 then you gotta start getting players. But how do you go about doing that 362 00:25:04.680 --> 00:25:08.880 and convincing people to come to a program like this that's brand new? And 363 00:25:10.119 --> 00:25:17.720 what's your selling point? Yeah? The selling point is partly you know, 364 00:25:17.839 --> 00:25:23.200 my experience working in within the Olympics side of things. As I'm you know, 365 00:25:23.400 --> 00:25:30.960 talking with all these international athletes. I've gone to several different international competitions, 366 00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:34.480 including World Championships next week in Spain. I've went to the Junior World 367 00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:41.000 Championships in Hamburg, Germany, and several other international competitions where it is such 368 00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:44.279 a bigger sport than Europe. So I was really heavily recruiting out of Europe, 369 00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:48.839 and you know, some of them there, their worry was, you 370 00:25:48.880 --> 00:25:49.720 know, why would we want to go to the US when it's such a 371 00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:55.680 bigger sport in Europe and the best of US athletes are coming to Europe anyway, 372 00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:57.799 so why would we want to go there? But sharing within my vision, 373 00:25:57.960 --> 00:26:03.279 my experience in the Olympics movement and and you know, and also just 374 00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:10.599 everything that Towson has to offer from cycling to to running and facilities u of 375 00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:15.240 A has and support u of A has. You know, they've all all 376 00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:18.279 the pretty much everyone has been very, very interested, and we're bringing some 377 00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:23.119 of the best athletes in the world on recruiting visits and having conversations daily with 378 00:26:23.720 --> 00:26:26.680 some of the best junior tr athletes in the world, and a lot of 379 00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:30.839 them are from outside of the US, so we're that's kind of, you 380 00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:37.079 know, been the vision and how I'm recruiting is you know, explaining that 381 00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:41.039 MC does delay can be a pathway towards the Olympics, and and that's that's 382 00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:47.039 what I'm using too to talk with these athletes and and work with the athletes 383 00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:51.920 that we have here right now. It's proving to be true. These we 384 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:56.160 have some incredible squad here right now and we're started. The first priority as 385 00:26:56.200 --> 00:27:00.759 we started this program is building a stronghold. We've mentioned to them every single 386 00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:06.160 day what's the most important this season is not winning. What's the most important 387 00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:12.279 thing this season is building in a culture of success and environment a staff support 388 00:27:12.359 --> 00:27:18.599 with a from athlete to athlete of a team first mentality, and that's what 389 00:27:18.680 --> 00:27:23.400 we're seeing. So it's just really really exciting what we're building and the support 390 00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:27.240 of the athletes are are, how they're supporting each other and they're just it 391 00:27:27.359 --> 00:27:32.160 feels like a family, and it's from all the professor, all the squads 392 00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:34.200 that coached over the years. This is really unique what we're building here and 393 00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:37.400 super exciting to me. So, coach, you're talking to two old dudes, 394 00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:41.680 older reporters. Uh, you know, we were meeting potatoes. Guys. 395 00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:45.200 We cover football, basketball, baseball. We see the talent pool in 396 00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:48.960 those things at youth levels and high school levels. Obviously, what's the talent 397 00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:53.759 pool like in this where you probably have good cyclists, okay, swimmers, 398 00:27:55.400 --> 00:27:57.559 okay runners or maybe all the above. You know you have you have to 399 00:27:57.599 --> 00:28:04.640 be good in all three. Yeah, it's it's it's it's changing a little 400 00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:10.640 bit where more and more trafthletes are growing up doing traff one since they're seven 401 00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:15.039 eight years old. So it's it's especially in Europe and outside of the country. 402 00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:18.640 It's something they do for their whole life. However, there are different 403 00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:22.920 ways to recruit and we've we've found we've found a girl here at the University 404 00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:26.400 of Arizona who's a swimmer, but she also just did a little bit of 405 00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:30.359 running in high school. So we've we're looking at some of the talent and 406 00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:34.599 some potential. We're able to just find some unique individuals. And this one 407 00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:37.640 swimmer that we found from the swimming program here at the u of A. 408 00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:42.559 She she's just absolutely incredible and could could be an Olympian. She had no 409 00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:47.359 idea that this was even a possibility, you know, two years ago or 410 00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:52.039 one year ago. So so yeah, we at that the high school level, 411 00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:55.079 it's not really like a high school sport, but it's a club sport 412 00:28:55.559 --> 00:29:00.759 for youth and juniors, and then internationally it's it's to sport for clubs all 413 00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:06.079 over the world that it's actually much bigger outside of the outside of the US. 414 00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:08.960 I went to the Junior World Championships in Hamburg and never half a million 415 00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:15.160 spectators on the street supporting, hearing, sharing these athletes on in a huge, 416 00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:19.039 major city and it is just a mainstream sport just like football is here, 417 00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:23.160 you know, Cycling and traveling there is is just huge. So, 418 00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:29.240 you know, so that's what we're we're we're recruiting out there. However, 419 00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:33.039 there are some really good talent coming out of US as well. I'm just 420 00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:37.920 not quite as much depths, but a couple of the best Americans it's just 421 00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:41.920 verbally committed to come here as well. So so we're looking yeah, flicking, 422 00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:45.960 promising, and we want a good mix of We want to make sure 423 00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:51.279 we're having some strong Americans. But what our standard is is higher than just 424 00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:53.359 finding the Americans. We want to go for the best in the world. 425 00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:56.599 So that's what we're shooting for. So you might want to have Tommy Lloyd 426 00:29:56.680 --> 00:30:00.240 recruit for you too. I guess you guys bring all the international players. 427 00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:06.440 Yeah, exactly, so so coach, Uh, you know, I saw 428 00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:10.880 that you guys had your first ever meet you you you went up there a 429 00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:15.079 meet hosted by ASU finished second in the meat as US. Sounds like they're 430 00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:18.440 a you know, well, any one of the top top programs in this 431 00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:23.480 sport. What what were your expectations going into that? And then where do 432 00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:30.480 you where do they sit now? Yeah? Yeah, it was interesting going 433 00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:33.319 into that. There was a lot of unknown expectations, honestly, but it 434 00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:36.880 was it was. It was also a little different of a format. It 435 00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:40.839 wasn't at normal traffln. It was a bike run in the morning relay format, 436 00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:44.000 so they do bike run and then tag off to their teammate and then 437 00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:48.720 bike run again and tag off and then then two hours later we had a 438 00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:53.079 swim competition in the pool, so so it was a little different, but 439 00:30:53.240 --> 00:31:00.559 and we we got basically it's hard to explain how it all find out panned 440 00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:04.480 out, but we we if we were four second we got outbeat on at 441 00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:10.640 the end of the bike run. They caught us in past debts and about 442 00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:14.319 beat us about four seconds. We beat them pretty handily on the swim, 443 00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:18.400 And so how it all played out, If we're about four seconds fast, 444 00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:22.279 we would have beat the team from this we would be AFU, who's like 445 00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:27.559 undefeated pretty much in seven years. So we're I'm hot, I'm super happy 446 00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:33.279 with where we're at, and and you know, going into this next competition, 447 00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:38.599 you know it'll be the first opportunity to kind of see all the teams. 448 00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:41.960 So almost all the teams are going to be there that are going to 449 00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:45.920 be at the national Championships, So We're going to see kind of how athletes 450 00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:49.640 their teams are playing their cards and and opportunity for us to play ours a 451 00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:53.839 little bit and practice some strategies. There is a lot of strategy that people 452 00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:59.079 may not realize in traff one and this style of traff one, because there's 453 00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:02.440 it's peloton style riding on the bike, so drafting on the bike and on 454 00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:07.480 the swim and so we have some really strong swim bikers and so we can 455 00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:13.480 break away together and that's that's a strategy to work together as a team. 456 00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:16.920 And it's all about the team, so that we try to support the fastest 457 00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:21.680 runner in the group by working the least amount on the bike and just sitting 458 00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:24.400 in the draft and then letting that athlete just go and try to win a 459 00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:29.079 run. So there's a lot of different strategies that we can try, and 460 00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:31.680 this is a good opportunity if we can just put that of practice. So 461 00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:35.559 you kind of said some some of the things I was gonna ask, how 462 00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:37.880 do you train for this? I mean, you just here's the bike boat. 463 00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:42.559 What does a practice look like? Right? Is it a workout or 464 00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:47.119 is it a practice? You could call it either. It's you know, 465 00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:51.720 there's a since it's an out about an hour long race, there's a huge 466 00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:54.160 aerobic component to it, so we need we do need a lot of just 467 00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:58.680 aerobic training, but there's a lot of skill to it as well. It's 468 00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:02.920 riding in a group format, group pack pack riding, going around turns one 469 00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:09.319 eighties ninety degree turns, transitioning fast into the you know, off they mount 470 00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:13.640 their bikes and they jump on their bikes, they can see their feet in 471 00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:15.759 their shoes. There's just there's a lot of little skills like that to it. 472 00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:17.759 So we're doing a lot of every week, we're doing a lot of 473 00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:23.720 skills, just building those those fundamentals and those skills and also you know, 474 00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:28.359 working in some speed. But you know, out of the twenty hours a 475 00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:31.160 week we're allowed to train, you know, eighty percent of that is is 476 00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:35.559 pretty easy in aerobic just because it is an hour long sport. We're not 477 00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:37.160 training for like a four hundred meter on the track. You know, it's 478 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:45.599 an hour plus long event. So a lot of our training is aerobic training, 479 00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:49.480 just swimming, biking and running, and then we work in skills and 480 00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:53.519 you know, we take out all the lane lines sometimes for to practice like 481 00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:58.519 Lake type swimming and pack swimming and going around boy's fast. You know, 482 00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:01.440 it's like a full content sport. You're going around booie and just fighting against 483 00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:05.640 everybody. Okay, we have to practice the skill of that. So we 484 00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:08.039 take all all the lame mind and practice that. We set up a transition 485 00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:12.559 outside of the pool with you know, with with their bikes, so they 486 00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:15.119 run through the whole twin. They run to their bikes, grab their bikes, 487 00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:20.239 jump on their bikes, to their feet in their shoes and so these 488 00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:22.719 are all little skills that we're trying to just stay by day to put together 489 00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:28.159 and improve. Got So I'm looking at your schedule. You've got basically four 490 00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:30.920 meats. You've got the ASU meat that you just had, you all them 491 00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:35.320 coming up Saturday in Fort Worth. I guess is mostly by TCU rites, 492 00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:37.840 that's what you said. Then you've got a regional and then the national Championships. 493 00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:40.400 Is that going to be the schedule going forward? Will you have more 494 00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:45.960 meets in the future, will you host something? How do you see this 495 00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:52.039 developing as as the as the program establishers, Yeah, yeah, we're there. 496 00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:55.119 We have four NCAA races, but we also we have two athletes going 497 00:34:55.159 --> 00:35:00.360 to the World Championships next week, and so so we do end up having 498 00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:06.360 some more events on the where they're representing their national federations trying to get farther 499 00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:10.079 parlym big points. So I am going to Spain next week with two of 500 00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:15.079 our athletes, So we do there are some more events in there that aren't 501 00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:20.079 on the end of the light schedule for some of them. But next year 502 00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:22.760 it's looking like we are going to have a home event most likely, and 503 00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:28.679 it'll probably we're shooting at least be us A a SU but we're shooting to 504 00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:31.599 try to make it like a big twelve conference thing with adding TCU to it 505 00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:37.519 too, so and be really fun format and it's a really spectator friendly for 506 00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:40.840 it because you're basically, you know, doing a lot of laughs on the 507 00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:45.679 bike and the run. And so what we would probably do is is swimming 508 00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:50.880 the pool with Louise kind of like a late type format because we can make 509 00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:55.320 this pool really big, and then it would do laughed bikes in the in 510 00:35:55.400 --> 00:35:59.880 the mall here in the university, just around in the around the grafs field, 511 00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:04.199 so they would you know, on the road, you know what I'm 512 00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:08.119 talking about. The mall off campus, so they would do laped bike in 513 00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:13.239 there and then lap running there just dead center of campus on probably like on 514 00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:16.119 a Friday. So so it would be really really fun formats to get the 515 00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:22.000 city and students involved and and just you know, just have a dead center 516 00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:24.639 of campus. So that's that's the goal. To have that early probably next 517 00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:30.199 year in September. So that's that's what we're shooting for. Still got to 518 00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:35.920 work through some things to confirm that and make that all happen. But yeah, 519 00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:37.519 it's going to be exciting and beach here. Yeah, we'll probably have 520 00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:42.840 more events than we do this year. Okay, all right, coach, 521 00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:45.760 nice coach, very very fun, fascinating stuff. So you know, best 522 00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:49.719 best of luck and luck this week and uh, you know going forward, 523 00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:53.199 it's it's a fascinating sport. And as you said, no spectator friendly and 524 00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:57.159 more and more people get involved in this. How many how many scholarships you 525 00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:02.239 get? Six point five? Okay, right, yeah, big point five? 526 00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:07.599 So yeah, and the nice things. All these athletes are really driven 527 00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:09.719 and smart, so a lot of them come with you know, some academics 528 00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:15.559 scholarships as well, pretty much all of them. So so we're we're able 529 00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:19.519 to spread those songship stop pretty well. Thanks coach, very good, Thanks 530 00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:23.360 a bunch of coach, appreciate it. Good luck this weekend. Cool different 531 00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:30.920 tryathl Come on, not any I mean not anything I ever thought about doing. 532 00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:32.840 You've done like you. You've done one, You've done that. Silly 533 00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:36.719 you, silly you, You've done this thing. I have. 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Does that mean that Vegas doesn't know how bad 632 00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:53.360 you temp is or doesn't have a gauge on Arizona. Vegas knows everything. 633 00:44:53.519 --> 00:44:57.199 Yeah, but you don't see that's kind of a strange. Maybe you'll probably 634 00:44:57.280 --> 00:45:00.000 end up at eighteen and a half, but you know, it just seems 635 00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:01.320 it is like a weird number to me. Yeah, yeah, I don't 636 00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:05.639 know, like a too short number. The only thing I do know is 637 00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:07.880 that they know yea, you know you look at the points where you say 638 00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:09.960 that can't be right, and then yeah, right, then it's right. 639 00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:13.239 That's exactly what I said. Said. In fact, I said that to 640 00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:15.440 eleven. I said, give me a guess on the number, and he 641 00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:19.400 said, yeah, more than twenty yeah, B two yeah eighteen? Uh 642 00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:25.159 Colorado? Who the play Colorado State? Uh twenty something, twenty two, 643 00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:30.000 twenty three and a half. You're touching that? No, no, you're 644 00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:35.519 not touching that. Noys the game it's it's in Denver, it's they played 645 00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:37.639 they played at the at the Bronx. I don't touch it's really touching the 646 00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:43.719 rivalry game. That's that's not gonna. I did like Colorado last weekend. 647 00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:45.199 You know that that was my best bet. I know. I hate you, 648 00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:53.840 I hate you bad. Uh Washington, Michigan, Michigan State, Watchington, 649 00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:57.960 Okay, washing Michigan State. I think I think then I said, 650 00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:02.400 I think that was sixteen sixteen for Washington, Washington giving sixteen sixteen on the 651 00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:07.000 road, rights to be on the road, to be on the road. 652 00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:12.320 And look, Michigan State's got players. Yeah right, they might even have 653 00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:15.679 a better coach. And I say that reluctantly given that the head coach is 654 00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:20.599 gone for now. Ye right, and they can play tough for the assistant 655 00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:25.000 coach. Yeah, it's a game that there's too many a stiff to work. 656 00:46:25.239 --> 00:46:27.960 Well, I like, I like, I said, I think that's 657 00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:30.320 a game you don't touch just because you don't know the emotion of the game. 658 00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:32.480 Well, there's a stat I saw. This is last year, but 659 00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:37.039 a lot of a lot of head coach firings last year, and the week 660 00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:42.679 after they fired their head coach they did well, No, only two wins. 661 00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:46.400 Wins are well, I know we're talking covered, we're talking covered again. 662 00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:52.880 We don't care about it. Damn that's true, but something really but 663 00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:57.039 they're probably getn't lose anyway. Sure, and if and if the coach is 664 00:46:57.119 --> 00:47:00.480 fired, that means the team is not very good. Right, So there's 665 00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:06.320 factors. Okay, okay, you saw Texas the name got beat last week? 666 00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:09.719 Yeah yeah, I think ire giving thirty six to Louisiana Monroe. No, 667 00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:17.079 neither, that's Toots who they Lucy last week? You man? Yeah 668 00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:21.559 Miami, Oh that was in Miami. That was right, because he didn't 669 00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:24.400 have to leave in Miami. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. What about what 670 00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:29.039 about the coach man he's he hasn't done well there, jimbo Jim, Well, 671 00:47:29.079 --> 00:47:30.719 his buiout is like a four hundred million dollars or something like that. 672 00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:34.639 And he had his guy, he had his guy, the offensive coordinate or 673 00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:40.719 DEFENSEI cordinat uh the controversial. Yeah that guy you free No, no, 674 00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:46.480 Patrino, patriot him, he's yeah, exactly, it's like two that yeah, 675 00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:51.719 okay, Oregon State giving twenty four and I have to San Diego State. 676 00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:54.599 That's at Oregon State. That's yeah, that's a good jay. I 677 00:47:54.639 --> 00:47:58.880 don't know. I don't know because I took I took UCLA over send you 678 00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:00.599 say, and you kind of gave me the guy or the steam guy whatever 679 00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:07.800 that is. Steak guys. Big guy is a thing that I don't want 680 00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:09.360 to get either get when you're like four years old. You get it when 681 00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:14.719 you had the steak guy, I don't. I don't know. That's because 682 00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:16.320 I thought you Shelley would cover when they did, and they did. I 683 00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:19.639 just don't think they send to your states. The tina used to be my 684 00:48:19.719 --> 00:48:25.119 son. My son ripped on my daughter for taking for taking uh uh ucla 685 00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:29.000 and that, and then they covered. Yeah, I liked it, and 686 00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:34.320 then they cover. Oh here's the thing I was hearing. Indiana and Louisville 687 00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:37.480 are playing in. It's sort of a neutral side game. It's it's at 688 00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:40.199 the Cult Stadium in Indianapolis. But they were supposed to have a home and 689 00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:45.159 home after that, and Indiana has canceled it and specifically said they're canceling it 690 00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:52.039 because they want to play FCS opponents in that in that slot to get get 691 00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:54.960 a win instead of playing a game against the quality opponents. Like, what 692 00:48:55.079 --> 00:49:00.599 the hell it's called the son Miller approach iguenie? Did you get Yes? 693 00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:04.800 I heard you, the shot Miller approach, big true, big chant wheenies. 694 00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:09.000 But that one's by U Arkansas. What do you think he's good? 695 00:49:09.800 --> 00:49:15.719 What's the what's the press? Arkansas eight and a half at Arkansas. It's 696 00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:21.719 a road game. Tread lightly. I don't know. You like pig point 697 00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:23.199 spreads? Yeah, I don't care about the spread. What do you mean? 698 00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:24.880 I don't care. I don't care if it's a big if it's a 699 00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:29.280 good number, I like I better. I don't care if it's thirty five 700 00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:32.000 or ten or whatever. I just okay, Michigan give him forty and a 701 00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:36.039 half to three. No, that's too much. Do they have the coach 702 00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:40.079 back? No, the two more games without him, they might do continue 703 00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:42.840 they're done. Well. I guess he. I guess he came out and 704 00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:45.280 said what he did yet on Saturday, you know, because he stayed home, 705 00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:49.360 right, I guess he said. He went to mode the lawn and 706 00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:52.880 then they watched the first half, went to McDonald's at halftime. Then he 707 00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:57.960 went and mode the rest of the lawn after the game. So he found 708 00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:00.280 out what it's gonna be like when he's not coaching exact and he's probably on 709 00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:05.599 the phone too. Yeah, this spread not supposed to be If he is 710 00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:09.199 breaking the rule, he's going to get another number two? All right? 711 00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:15.440 Uh? Oh? The backyard brawl Pittsburgh and West Virginia. Is that West 712 00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:17.360 Virginia. I don't want to go to the back yard ugly game. Yeah 713 00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:21.800 that's gonna be yeah, because Pittsburgh was supposed to better than what it is. 714 00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:27.320 Yeah, that game last year was fantastic. Don't make me watch it. 715 00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:31.639 No, No, that game last year was unbelievable. Last second pick 716 00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:37.840 six, that's right, right right, it was crazy. Do you want 717 00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:43.519 you guys see the bad beats on this week? It was a really bad 718 00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:46.199 a scoop and score in a game to flip us. Well, that was 719 00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:50.719 organ. Oregan was the team. That's what it was. It was no 720 00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:54.400 organ on the interception, but they got a pick pick six. They were 721 00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:57.440 not covering, right, they were not covering. They got to pick six 722 00:50:57.519 --> 00:51:00.760 and cover. But then there was a scoop and score. Yeah fumble uh 723 00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:05.480 and and and score okay uh. Texas huge win last week, right, 724 00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:10.679 giving twenty eight and a half to Wyoming at Texas twenty eight and a half. 725 00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:17.400 Wow, the flattened alp for you know, beat Texas Tech. Yes, 726 00:51:17.480 --> 00:51:22.960 they did, they did, and Texas Tech was pretty good against Utah. 727 00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:29.400 Yeah, Oregon Oregon. Okay, we know those seems. I don't 728 00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:30.679 know. That's a tough. That's a tough number twenty eight, twenty and 729 00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:35.840 a half, twenty eight and the hook. No, the key to your 730 00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:38.800 thing is you got to find those gems somewhere in there. Oregon giving thirty 731 00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:46.639 eight to Hawaii at Sexy Games this weekend. There's there's nothing, so there's 732 00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:53.559 nothing. Those are the best games ASU getting getting three its Resno State at 733 00:51:53.639 --> 00:51:58.800 ASU. Yeah, they don't didn't score, they can't score. We talked 734 00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:01.440 about this yesterday, right with a quarterback, Uh yeah, we're yeah. 735 00:52:01.599 --> 00:52:05.199 Well jo Jody was saying, what the hell are you doing? Right? 736 00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:08.960 You know? Yeah, go with the go with the go with the veteran, 737 00:52:09.079 --> 00:52:13.119 the brock guy bar Gay no, no, no, no no for 738 00:52:13.239 --> 00:52:15.800 San Francisco, the quarterback from Mariowa State, Oh Brock Purty. Go with 739 00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:19.920 the brock purdy guy who's gonna steady get you to win, rather than the 740 00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:22.440 flashy, flashy guy who's gonna may not get you. They may or may 741 00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:28.159 not get you anything. Greg Hands was talking about Brent Brandon, who's the 742 00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:34.400 Sandals. They state they're seven point underdogs due Toledo next on Saturday. Right 743 00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:39.559 there, Tennessee plays Florida, isn't it's not bad? Spread there Tennessee, 744 00:52:39.719 --> 00:52:43.639 Tennessee six and a half. Isn't that? Is that the world's greatest? 745 00:52:43.880 --> 00:52:46.199 No, it's Georgia ten It's Georgia Tennessee. Where's that game out? It's 746 00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:49.880 in Florid, Florida. You had to be in Florida. Then Florida, 747 00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:52.599 Florida getting six and a half at home. The best best spread of the 748 00:52:52.639 --> 00:52:57.760 week, though, is LSU minus nine and a half at Mimissippi State. 749 00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:00.239 If we don't think I don't think this state. Who's that? Who's that 750 00:53:00.760 --> 00:53:06.519 Missy State? We watched it. It's the same spread as Arizona. Right, 751 00:53:06.920 --> 00:53:09.199 Yeah, but ls used getting get alice US. Yeah, yeah, 752 00:53:09.880 --> 00:53:14.119 that's not that's not a whole lot of points point. Oh, thanks for 753 00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:21.440 that. Like, yeah, Penn State Illinois, you know, Penn State 754 00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:24.480 give four and add Illinois. This is this is coming to an end, 755 00:53:24.519 --> 00:53:29.320 thankfully. All right, man, give you lots of stuff to work on 756 00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:30.840 for tomorrow's Yeah, what are you gonna do? Man? All right, 757 00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:35.960 we will be back tomorrow. Johnny of Vello, the director of the sports 758 00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:39.519 book operations for Draft King sports Book. We'll be here tomorrow to uh, 759 00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:43.360 you know, kind of give us a you know, phill Us in on 760 00:53:43.480 --> 00:53:45.280 some of the stuff going around going on around draft King. You don't know 761 00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:50.360 about crowns. Have you found out what crowns are? Brow crowns on our 762 00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:52.239 on our on our account. I have no idea. Who do we need 763 00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:55.400 to do with that? I don't know. Tomorrow, Yeah, maybe maybe 764 00:53:55.400 --> 00:53:59.239 we do that. And so he'll be with us tomorrow, we'll bring we'll 765 00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:02.039 bring in another game and then uh, we'll have our picks tomorrow because I'll 766 00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:06.840 be out again on Friday, some personal business gotta take care of. And 767 00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:09.039 so we hopefully'll be here tomorrow and check us all out. We'll be we'll 768 00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:15.480 be back tomorrow. You are a Telly. You