Joining us now is Jack Lawson. He has Civil Defense manual dot com.
Always great to talk to Jack, and I wanted to talk to Jack again
because we see a lot of trouble spots being escalated. We've got a lot
of infrastructure issues, and of course infrastructure was the very first saying and I
talked about years ago. Thanks for joining us, Jack, can you hear
me? Yes? I can? Okay, Thanks driving me out again,
Edd, Okay, thank you for coming on. Yeah, let's talk a
little bit about You sent some clips and of some things that we can pull
up, and I've got those now. So we've got a little bit of
technical issues that have I think we're getting them squared away. Tell us what's
your concern right now as we look at the global and domestic situations, what's
your major concern in terms of preparation and threat Well, my major concern is
the drama I've been beating for some probably close to fifty years, and that
is that Americans are ill prepared. They're totally underprepared for any kind of disruption.
As I've gone through five some decades of this, it's gotten more heightened
because of the obvious issue of our reliance on technology. It's it's just to
me, that's that's one of the biggest issues. There's a number of issues.
I can't even go over them all. I mean, we've got a
border, but we don't have a border. You know, it's not even
lying in the sand anymore. That be a fence there, but people think
it's a cattle fence or whatever. Keep the sheep in from going to going
south to Mexico to Cancun. It's uh, you know there there are a
myriad of issues to me that any one of which could cause us and will
cause us problem. One of the biggest I've got a good friend he deals
in this. We use four thousand terabytes of energy in this country. We've
cut down on the production capability, and he said, we're going to be
massively short by summer's end here, maybe earlier than that. And this is
what he deals with, redundancy of power for major corporations, Microsoft being one
of them. And he's advising all these people, if you got a backup
generator, get another backup generator and get plenty of fuel because you're not going
to have any electricity, so your functionality is going to be dead in the
water and it's looking the worse long term because they keep adding things to the
grid, saying I'm sorry, you can't have a gas stove, can't have
a gas car. Everything's going to be on the grid as they are destroying
the grid like a bunch of grimlins. And so that's their long term plan.
It's not going to get any better. It's going to continue to get
worse. It's going to be more expensive, more unreliable, and they are
adding as I was talking about earlier in the program, you look at artificial
intelligence and the burden that that's going to be in addition to other things that
are already there. That's a massive power consumption that's being added to the grid
along with all these other things while they're pulling it apart. But then you've
got things like the Baltimore Bridge, which nobody saw that coming, and look
at the knock on effects that could happen from that. If they can't get
that thing open quickly. That is something that whether it was deliberate or whether
it was an accident, it just shows how fragile our infrastructure is. Yes,
in regards to that ship hitting the Francis Scott Key Bridge, I find
it interesting again this is what do you believe? I find it interesting that
the last two minutes of the Black Box disappeared, that that ship took a
sharp ninety degree turn. This is this is obviously well in the cape,
within the capabilities of any major country like Russia or China conducting a sabotage issue
like this. You know, I mean, you drive your car down the
road. If somebody is intent to get after you, they can get into
a modern car now, and this has been proven. There was a journalist
that was coming out with a article critical of the CIA that all of a
sudden ended up running into trees at one hundred and thirty miles an hour out
in California, and the NSA director said, oh, yeah, well we
can do that. I mean, we wouldn't do that, but you know
how much you want to believe that's another story. But there is just too
much of a capability one way or another. I think that there's probably was
American influence and backing of the plot or the issue that killed all the Russians
in the theater over there, and I think they are getting their payback,
and our country does not want to admit that they have the capability of this
they's just do frightening for people to realize there are issued. They'll never admit
anything like that. And then shortly after that, we had another large tanker
that lost power. They got that under control with some tugboats. But you
know, I said at the time, when you look at it, that
was the key. Why did it lose power? And they wouldn't even you
know, mention the idea that it could be something about cybersecurity. And I
don't know how these things are set up, but everything is so automated now
that you can do something on the side and you can have devastating effects in
terms of systems that are all interconnected to the computers. We saw months ago
we had the FCC, sorry the FAA, they shut down all America and
airport's. Why well, because they had this ancillary system on the side,
the no TAM system that was reporting to them if there was going to be
any issues anywhere around an airport, anything on the runway, anything like that,
and if that system goes down, they just shut down all air travel
for about twelve hours and they said, oh, it's not a hack.
And yet after it came up about an hour and a half later, Canada's
no tam system went down, and they shut things down very quickly, but
it didn't stay shut down. I think in both these cases there was some
kind of a blackmail and they paid it off. It took them a while
to come to that decision. In the US, I think after they saw
what had happened in the US when it happened in Canada, they did it.
So they're not going to admit that there was a cyber attack. They're
never going to admit that. But you know, even if it was an
accident, Yeah, just like the nord Stream pipeline went blown up by the
Russians. That's right, that's a laugh and a half. You know,
they'll never get to bottom of that. They've gotten to the bottom. The
people know what's going on there, but you're never going to hear the truth
of the matter. It's too alien for most people to comprehend. I think
it's you know, there's a number of things. Take the airport situation.
Take the aircraft, colleges coming off, wing flaps coming off, that's I
take that out of the picture. People have to realize they get in an
airplane. I'm both private and helicopter rated. I've flown quite a few hours.
But this is quite quite a while ago. And now the modern airliner,
and I've got friends that are retired airline pilots, the modern airliner is
the only thing the pilot does, and a cold pilot is basically check engine
controls, flap settings, directional, keep the electronics, ensure that they're working.
But they don't fly that plane. That plane takes off under their supervision.
They probably do more at takeoffs than they ever do anything else. All
during that flight, it's controlled by a computer system. When it goes to
land, it's basically controlled by a computer system, with the pilots overseeing it
and taking over in the last few minutes. That is one part of this
thing. The other part I think that people don't realize is the obvious failability
of these systems. Everybody's hacking everything. I mean, I just had a
situation where it's getting to be a technological collusion and collision. It's absolutely beyond
comprehension how COMPLEXI systems are getting trying to keep them from getting packed. And
in the process, when you put two step authentication on that type of thing,
your bank system goes crazy and trying to download to an accounting system we've
been going through this for the last three months, and we get it going.
And you talk to the people at the companies, either the bank or
the accounting company, and they're pretty much at a loss. So here,
tell me what's protected. You know. It's kind of in drowning. The
guy at the comedian that plays mister Bean was his name, Rowan Atkinson.
That, yeah, and he's an electrical engineer. But he's very wealthy obviously,
and he's he likes to buy exotic, you know, state of the
art sports cars and stuff like that. He says, well, with these
cars, you don't so much drive them as you manage them. It's like
a drive by wire thing, he goes, And I kind of takes some
of the fun out of it, you know, because there's so many systems
that are in the way. Well, you better hope that those systems are
functioning correctly. You better hope that somebody hasn't messed with him. And you
were talking about the journalist and that was probably back in twenty thirteen, Michael
Hastings that hit that tree, except that his engine was went straight and you
know, he's going really fast. I got some pictures of them going really
fast. And then there's an explosion. His engine was found in the direction
that he was traveling way down the road, and yet his car veered off
to the right and hit a tree. And they said, oh, he
died because he hit the tree. No, the engine was ejected before he
hit the tree. And hitting the tree is not going to eject your engine.
It's going to push it into you, you know, if you've done
something like that. It caught fire. Then he had already told people that
hey, I'm doing this special report and he would go out and look at
He had a rental Mercedes. I think he rented it, but it was
a Mercedes and it had more of the bells and whistles on it than the
other cars at the time. Did this is before everybody had elements of you
know, remote control or autonomous control on the cars, but the Mercedes had
quite a few of those on there. And he would go out and look
underneath the car before he would go somewhere because he thought they were after him.
But you know, even before we found that out, we had I'd
been talking to Eric Peters and to another guest that we have all the time
goat tree talking about these different hacking contests that they were doing taking over cars
and taking control of them, and that was, you know, twelve thirteen,
fourteen years ago, so that kind of stuff has been going on for
a long time. So that was really child's play for them to do that
tot of thing. Hastings died prematurely. If you moved the time up to
now, any exposy that he did would just be shrug off. Yeah.
Apparently these you know, the government agencies, used to have some type of
fear of humiliate, being humiliated. They don't care now. They don't care
what people know. They don't care what they do, they don't care if
it becomes public. There is no longer plausible deniability. They don't really care
about it. They can just shout you down. They've got this big megaphone
and they can silence you, and they can shout louder than you can.
So they don't really care about any of this stuff. Yeah, it's a
sad situation when you get into Let me go back to my prime directive.
I'm going to beat the drum again. I really urge Americans to store food,
store water. And I know this is something you've always advocated. Get
your name, know your neighbors and organized for a common product protection. I
think that of all the issues we've got going, we have a real powder
keg of polarization in the country. If people on the left and people on
the right they want to go at each other's throat and in the next however,
many months prior to and even after the election, no matter who wins
or who becomes president, I think you're going to see an increase in the
amount of violence that goes on. Is it going to be a general uprising
by Trump supporters of me if he leaves, No, I don't think so.
Is there going to be sporadic instances of people losing their cool? I
do think so. On the left if Trump wins, I think you're going
to see nothing, nothing but interference with his term and his ability to carry
out anything he intends to do as the president. So I urge people to
have some type of supply. Ninety percent of people in this country probably got
enough food. If they eat the cake mix in their cupboard, they've got
enough food for probably seven days. They could keep themselves going to eating.
Outside of that, it's you know, it's a real issue. The system
can break down very easily and you'll see empty stores like you've never seen,
not even during COVID. So I urge people to do that. Store food,
water, life, sustainable medicines that you need, and get to know
your neighbors and have something to protect yourself with. That's right. Yeah,
we're looking at these spot shortages and stuff like that. And of course we
even saw this in twenty twenty as soon as they had the lockdown all of
a sudden, you know, farmers are destroying food on the you know,
at the farm or on the ranch, and yet the grocery store shelves are
empty because everything is just you know, messed up that they have it in
the wrong format to be able to sell at retail. Something that's similar.
But you know Anny Jacobsen who just did a book on nuclear war. She's
done a lot of things with the Pentagon about DARPA and about Operation paper Clip
and stuff like that. She just did a book about nuclear war and she
said, you know, most people are going to die not from the blast,
not from radiation, but from starvation. And you know, so even
with a nuclear war, it's that having that backup food supply that is the
key issue. Isn't it anything that disrupts this fragile system we have. Yeah,
there's what's called the just in time. You go to buy a loaf
of bread in a store, you check out at the counter, and at
ten o'clock at night, about when the store closes, they tally up how
many loaves of bread they've sold, what they've got left in their inventory,
and an order goes to the bakery, and probably by four to six o'clock
there's a truck rolling out of that bakery to that store with the loaves of
bread that they automatically order through this inventory system. It's just in time.
The point of this system is to to cut down in the amount of reserve
food that's sitting around in warehouses. You've got the cost of the warehouse,
costs of warehouse employees, you've got spoilage, you've got huge amounts of money
in the inventory that's within that store. So there is no reserve that's part
of our food system. That's just disappeared. As far as the reserve goes,
it's just in time, and that makes it all the more dangerous.
And what has been over the years, you know, everything, everything is
automating to the point where the be encounters a lot of them don't have a
common sense brain cell in their head make these decisions. I've seen some atrocious
situations happen, and it's all from people that just don't have any common sense
or any kind of connection to reality. But they're running the system, so
you have to put up with it, and it's getting worse all the time.
You sent us a bunch of eclipse here, and I'm not sure i've
got them here. In case you want to call them out, I can
show any of these clips that you want to talk about. Well, I'm
talking about the Justice in Time, the Direct Store Distribution system. Okay,
that's that's right. Here, you can see that that's DSD. That's right,
that's what you've been talking about, the Just in Time and I remember
you know, and of course when we look at just in time, that
is the Baltimore Bridge issue, right, the Francis scoyt Key thing, if
it was an accident or if it was sabotaged. The bottom line is is
that they've got ships trapped inside there. It's going to be a while before
they can bring anything back in there, but they can very easily break those
connections with any kind of accident or with any kind of sabotage. Yeah,
and the system itself has got enough failabilities without somebody conducting malicious warfare against us
by disrupting a system, anyone of a number, just a myriad of issues
that make that system function can fail in any one time. And you talk
about hacking, I think probably just about as dangerous as hacking is what some
of these people running these systems. They're totally incompetent. I'm starting to see
a collision. Like I said, well, we spent an hour and a
half with our local water company trying to get the updated their system. And
the person that was in charge of this at the water company, we found
she didn't know what she's talking about. She was at a loss too.
Hour and a half later, finally got a resolution on this. I don't
know where she went what she did, but we could not get into the
system. And you know, it's a matter of paying a bill and they're
not going to shout me off. But it's just there's collisions of updating,
and there's the collisions of dual authentication of these systems. There's so many issues
coming into play. They're complex. It's almost like the computer system get together
and they turn into Frankenstein monsters. Oh yeah, you know, yeah they
call it. I think they call it Frankenware. It's just these these little
side issues just continue to snowball and build on each Oh yeah, and that's
the key thing. You know. You got a little thing over here,
and then that gets compounded at the next stage, and before you know it,
you got a system that doesn't really work. I remember George Gilder talked
about life after Google a few years ago. He wrote a book, and
it's like, yeah, we would all like to fantasize about life without Google
in our life, wouldn't we. But what he was saying was that,
you know, you got all these different you got to remember all these different
codes to get in different places, and many other aspects of that. But
of course they will take the problems that they create and they will use that
to try to direct us into something like biometric identification and permission to get into
these systems and say, yeah, you don't really remember all those It's amazing,
isn't that amazing? How convenient all these these new talk about the mark
of the beast from the Bible, Yeah, you can you talk about these
systems they're coming up with just amazing how they've always got a fallback of digital
currency or some biometric issue or I scans that just just blow me away.
They're moving too quickly in this stuff. It's starting to compound itself. AI
is supposed to sort it out. I see these commercials on TV about AI
and go to this company and they've got this and somebody's sitting drinking an energy
drink while the person's cleaning the office at eleven o'clock, and then all of
a sudden they've come up with a massive new program that's going to solve anything.
Well, will it put food on the table? No? Will I
give you water? No? All this stuff is artificial, and it's an
illusion that people are living in. Yes, that's right, it's a virtual
reality. And all that virtual reality is going to come crashing down on us
and we're going to be looking around its like, well, I don't know
how to do anything. That's the key thing about your book is that it's
got practical advice about how to do things. Even when we're talking about food
that's going to last longer. You know how to preserve eggs, very simple
things like that. You've got a free chapter about water and how to maintain
your water supply. But you spent time in Zimbabwe. I was just talking
about inflation and how it gets away from us. Probably one of the most
familiar examples of that was in Zimbabwe, wasn't it. Oh my god,
my in law has got their money out of the country years before. My
father in law is a very incredible person, very visionary. But you could
see what was going to happen, and I just I had to buy it.
I couldn't believe it because I can't find it. It's all been used
for toilet paper, wallpaper, burning in fires. The Zimbabwe currency. I
just bought one hundred trillion dollar note, got a lot because yeah, yeah,
one hundred trillion dollar note. And now they're coming out with a gold
back currency that will work until they get enough people drawn into it, and
then the leadership of those countries rape the treasury and drive the thing into the
ground. Again. This is what they do. That's right. They don't
have any conscience towards this. Well, we're gonna need a hundred trillion dollar
bill pretty soon. As a matter of right. There's some idiot who was
saying, you know, we could fix the deficit if we just have a
trillion dollar bill or something. It was something crazy like that. But they're
adding a trillion dollars every ninety days to the deficit, so it's not gonna
be that long. Yeah, I'll never forget a story I was told about
Germany in nineteen twenty three, the Vima Republic. Right after World War One,
because of massive amounts of debt put on the German government for war reparations,
they started doing the same thing we're doing. They started printing currency.
It got so out of control the guy running the central banks of there had
a heart attack and died. And when it got to the point to where
the inflation was out of control, like a got in Zimbabwe. The story
was a lady in an apartment complex are just clanging and banging, and she
goes and looks out her door, and out her door is one of her
neighbors, and she's got this big bed sheet tied around. What's clanging up
the stair there were bedpans. The woman had bought twenty bedpans, and the
neighbors said, what have you got. I've got bedpans, about twenty of
them. What do you buy twenty bedpans for? They're worth something. The
next day they were worth twice as much. Wow. And that is basically
where this thing goes, and they can't stop it. It gets it becomes
a headless monster. Trying to satisfy debt by printing money with no backing or
no basis is a recipe for disaster. I know, my wife was over
there. My brother in law was an accountant over in Zimbabwe. Now that's
something for your resume. I was an accountant in Zimbabwe. The world's yeah,
yea, well they call it chartered over there. Anyway, it takes
my mother in law and my wife to dinner seventy dollars meal. They go
out and he's got two huge oversized suitcases and they're full of multi don endless
digit denomination bills and they had a seventy dollars meal. I've got the receipt
of this showing in my book. But they had a seventy dollars meal and
all the time they're eating, it took the staff that whole time to count
them and it was seventy dollars. And it just blew me away. I
mean, you think when walking into the restaurant, he's taking somebody for a
meal before he hits the airport with those suitcases. But it was just it
was just the money to pay the lunch bill. And it's the way to
thank God. People think this is a laugh. My father in law owned
one of the well it was the biggest printing company in Africa, and he
had to pay his workers and he had very, very loyal workers. He
had to pay his workers at noon so they could go out and buy groceries,
because if he paid them four or five hours later, the grocery costs
twice as much. Wow. And you know, people were moving money around
in a wheelbarrow, and people didn't want the money. They wanted the wheelbarrow
that was worth more money than the money. And it just got out of
control. I don't know how far down the road we're going to go.
We are going to have more of this. So I think everything is being
held in check because it's an election here and that is so sad for Americans,
and I think I agree. I think it's going to get really bad
really quickly after the election, and then it's going to more gasoline on the
fire. By getting both sides right now, you got the people who are
heavily partisan in one party or the other. Both of them are being fed
this narrative. I go to the conservative press and I go to the mainstream
liberal press, and it's amazing to see how each side is absolutely certain their
guy's got the election sewn up at this point, and they're creating that narrative,
that expectation, whether you are a Democrat or your Republican, if the
other guy wins, it's because democracy is over, that election was stolen.
We're going to have to fight. They're creating that. I've never seen anything
like this, where there's this total disconnect between the two sides, and with
the information that both sides are getting, each side absolutely convinced that their guy
is going to win. It's going to be a theft if they don't.
Yeah, if you're readers here, somebody's a threat to our democracy. Replaced
the word democracy with the word bureaucracy. That's what the left is pushing for.
It is a totel. I often wonder. I read a lot of
books about life in the Soviet Union in the twenties, thirties, forties,
and the fifties, when the transition took place. After Joseph Stalin died in
nineteen fifty three, I see things here as I'm wondering if we've got as
much freedom as they had. I read stories about people going to plays,
and you know, it seemed like a normal society. It was communist run,
but a normal society in the thirties, and they're going to a theater
and they're going to listen to music at a park. Yet I see things
here and I'm often wondering, what have we got now? I think just
creeps on over people so quickly that they don't realize what they've lost. Yeah,
we look at the cancelization of how people get canceled in that time.
They used to be a really powerful story about stalinist Russia, the way he
canceled. A good example of it with Shostakovich, famous composer, and he
just took a dislike to one of his pieces and he premiered this piece.
Stalin was there for the premiere, all the critics loved it, but then
Stalin said, I don't like it, and so the next day everybody,
you know, he became this outside absolutely canceled him. And yet you know
it was something that was really only available to Stalin to do that type of
canceling. Today because of the power of social media. The mob can cancel
you just as easily. Yeah, I think it's probably centrally driven. But
you look at Ruffel Brand and they pick somebody out and they start chopping away
at this person. And I don't even know who Russell Brand is. He's
some type of a commentator or whatever. But the bottom line is, if
they decide they want to take down the person they don't like, that's exactly
what they proceed to try to do. Oh yeah, yeah, and it's
very easy for them to do that. Let's talk a little bit about,
you know, what happens with the open borders. Are we going to start
seeing organized gangs that are Some people suggested that that may be the possibility when
you look at the demographics, they're already Yeah. But I mean, you
know, from this standpoint, we've seen this in the Soros controlled district attorneys
where just come in and loot and rob and that type of thing, and
they've gotten very organized in places like San Francisco. Do you expect to see
that this is going to start, you know, going all over the country
doing this type of thing, and and I think it will. How do
we protect against That's what's a good way to protect. Well, that's that's
where like and my neighborhood group here we have a dual purpose. We don't
operate under neighborhood watch. Neighborhood Watch it's a great idea, everybody looking out
for what's going on. However, it has the enforcement of law enforcement.
That is what enforces. We don't do that. We have our own signs.
They're are a sultry looking woman's eyes that basically tells everybody we're watching you.
And if somebody does have a problem, we're on the phone to each
other and we're talking about it, and we notify each person here, and
we do our own protection should we have to. Now, we don't advocate
everybody running around to the gun, but if somebody ends up breaking into a
house in my neighborhood, they're probably going to get a twelve gage shotgun poked
up their nose. People here are to the point to where most of them
moved out of these areas. I've got a guy coming that was one of
the largest counties in California communication director, and he says, in a war
zone out there, he's lived all his life out there, other than when
he was in Keby. He's a refugee from Cuba. His father was thrown
in the hard labor camp. He lows the communism, he saw it firsthand.
And the bottom line is he's trying to get out of there before the
elections because he said, I listen to every communication in this county between the
county commissioners, the mayors, the chiefs, the police, the sheriff department,
EMT's, fire department, emergency room, and he said it's an absolute
war zone at night. And he said he can't wait to get out of
there. His wife just retired and they're just waiting for a couple of days
here. He's going to know what when he can retire. I think the
biggest reason is is he has a massive he's twenty some people working for him.
He has a massive responsibility with this system and they just put an entirely
new mountaintop system in and he's concerned that they can't find anybody to replace him.
So he's got an issue there. But he tells me it's a war
zone. He said, they're shutting off alarm systems with cell phone jammers.
Wow. And these people are sophisticated gangs the case of place, and this
is going to be more and more are going to happen in the big city,
but at some point it's going to start to bleed out into the rest
of the countryside. So what do you do. You prepare and you get
your eyes and ears tuned in to what's going on in your neighborhood and organize
with your neighbors. We have a radio network we set up and if we
need to have somebody notified, we can squaltch everybody in this community. Your
patrol formation that you're talking about, there, no, no, that's something
from military days. The patrol formations are are basically movements of armed people in
either an offensive or defensive fosture, and it's just there. There are movements
to put people in specific places so to prevent ambush, and should you get
ambushed, you can respond, you can flank your attacker if if from some
of them. Anyway, that's that's a totally different deal. I sent those
for I sent those for you guys to have on hand at some point.
Don't ask me. I just do stuff like that anyway. But it's a
good example of the breadth of of what you're talking about in your book.
I mean, whether you're talking about food or water or something like this in
a real, uh, you know, societal breakdown situation. How how do
how does the military do it? For people that have not been in the
military, that don't have any that experience, you can find that kind of
information and civil Defense manual. Yes, and you're going to need that type
of thing if it gets really, really bad. You're going to need to
be able to know how to move and when we don't hear run around camouflage
uniforms with the family shotgun. What we do, though, is have people
that are advised of different tactical We got bay five basic tactics that we use.
Those tactics will defeat anybody. They're simplistic, but they're things that the
military has variations of. We just making it as simple in a five simple
tactical solutions for somebody to defend an area, and it's not so hard to
learn. You know, people will spend a year in war. College officers
go through huge amounts of training, troops go through practical application. We have
the theory, but if we have to activate and do things, everybody's got
in their head what we're going to need to do. And this is what's
very important. I think the biggest thing is is that if people go to
www. Civil Defensemanual dot com, they will and look under the top tab
that says what's in the book, what's in the Civil Defense Manual. It'll
give a list of table of contents. It will also give a list of
issues that you're not gonna see any other place. And why do I put
him in there? All of this together, I homogenize into surviving and surviving
with other people in your neighborhood because you are not going to be able to
survive alone. That's that's the bottom of line. People think I'll get my
shotgun and maybe me two or three of my neighbors. We're gonna have our
shotguns. We're going to do guard duty. Unless you have it organized,
that's not gonna last very long. The guy with the shotgun that's in his
house without any neighbors, he's got to sleep sometime. What's he gonna do
have his eight year old son with a shotgun there? You know? Yeah,
it's something that you need to have cooperation with your neighbors. Yes,
yes, that's absolutely right. And you know, even if you don't have
a societal breakdown, if you've got that connection with your neighbors. Maybe you
can have something to do with the local government, make sure that you've got
some people that are not going to be predators. That's one of the key
takeaways I think for twenty twenty. You talk about the end of democracy is
really the end of bureaucracy is really what they're talking about. And we were
ruled by bureaucrats. That's what I said in twenty twenty, and say,
why am I going to go vote here? I don't there's not anybody locally
or nationally that hasn't turned this thing over to a bunch of unelected bureaucrats.
So why would I vote for any these characters? But you could take that
true, Yeah, you could take a situation where you know, if you
know your neighbors and you organize before things start to happen like that, you
can organize to make sure that these people are going to kind of be a
check for what's going to be imposed from the national or maybe even the state
level on people. And so there's when they want to isolate us and they
want to put us into a digital world, we need to be thinking how
we can do exactly the opposite. Because they've designed their plans a very long
time ago. They've been practicing them, and they're trapped to enslave us.
So we need to do exactly the opposite of where they're We can see where
they're at it. The difficult thing is doing something else to counter it.
Yeah, I don't think they're going to succeed. There's just two You know
that we've got one thing in this kind. It's almost in our DNA.
What we have in the American mind. We have a rebelliousness that I think
is probably as the same or worse than what our founding fathers and the citizenry
then had. I think we still have a rebelliousness. Unfortunately, we have
a lot of people that have been propagandized into submission as far as being men,
feminized and on a in a they're just an inability of people to see
a real crisis because they live in illusions so much. A lot of people
have lived under a nanny state. I see it here. They moved from
California, or they moved from New York. And these people can't conceive of
doing things by yourself unless the government tells you who could do it, you
know, and I tell them, you know, I've had I've had.
We had a conversation. I they got a little upset about some of the
things they're talking about, and said, look, I'm not talking about doing
this now. I'm talking a worst case scenario, taking cars and blocking off
the road as police do in a circuit. I show this in the book.
There's one of the diagrams that sent you. It's it's it's a procedure
the police use and it's and it's set up from a kinectic energy point of
view to stop people from breaking through a blockade of cars. And I show
that, and I told these people, Oh, they got upset about this,
and I said, why don't you guys go out, We'll take wa
There's about eleven of them. We kicked them out of our group. We
told them they thought they were conservatives, but they aren't. And we said,
why don't you guys create a neighborhood choir and see if that keep you
from breaking your door down? You know, if they can go bad.
But you know, we deal with these people and some of them are just
misdirected. Now they're starting to think differently, and our group still functions.
We have some hardcorees. We have a lot of hardcore people that have been
out there, not necessarily all of them in the service. One of my
best ones hasn't been in a service, but he's been in law enforcement and
he knows what can happen because he lived it in California. Oh yeah,
yeah, that's kind of like a war zone in some cases. Right by
the way, I got an interesting quote here which I absolutely agree with him.
I think he's right. This is on rock Fan and Brian Kenney,
and thank you for the tip. He says regarding the bridge impact, he
thinks it his GPS spoofing, and I think that's probably that's very probable that
it was something like that. It's been around for thirty years or more less
than five hundred dollars worth of equipment to pull it off. You can do
it from nearby. The hacking verbiage is a red herring. I think that
is very likely because, yeah, they've used a GPS spoofing. Yeah,
that's a good point he brigs out there. Yeah, that's an excellent point.
That probably sounds more logical than trying to cut into his ship's navigation and
control system. Yeah, that's right what he's talking about. And spoofing.
Yeah, yeah, using GPS. Yeah, you're seven hundred yards from a
bridge. All you got to take a left hand sharp turn, you know,
defiling That's right. All you had to do is maybe install a cheap
device up there and activated it from a spotter. Yeah, and that's right
on rock Fille. I think people need to start looking at I read the
Bible. I'm trying to I'm trying to do something about my heathen past.
But the long, long and short of it is, I think we need
to we need to walk backwards. Not to absolute a doctrine and dogma of
religion, but the message. I saw a meme the other day. It
was God talking to Jesus Christ and he says, how's it going, my
son? He said, well, Father, he said it was. It
was going pretty good. But now they're worshiping me. We're worshiping me,
They're not worshiping the message that I brought to them. And I think that's
a critical I think to live, try to live by some type of Christian
ideal. But uh, people, people better understand one thing. Unless you're
capable of extreme violence, Unless you're capable of it and you don't use it,
you're not peaceful. You're harmless people that don't know how to use violence.
And I'm not advocating it. I'm saying that you have to to defend
yourself know how to use violence. If you can't do that, then you're
harmless. And unfortunately a lot of Americans, even with this independence, have
gotten propagandas into oh, zero tolerance, don't hurt anybody, blah blah blah.
There comes a time when you you're probably going to have to m oh
yeah, I agree absolutely, And let me just say real quickly before we
run out of time here, thank you for the tip of Michelle Obama and
Doug a lug. Thank you very much, you said, thank you.
Have a drink on me and enjoy your weekend. Well, thank you.
I can have a lot of drinks for for ten dollars, I can have
several salt drinks I think from a really good looking strawberries coming out of a
pail right behind you. That's right, that's right, Yeah, it's well.
You know, when if people want to take a look at the Civil
Defense Manual, and again it is very comprehensive and you've got examples in there.
Water is a very good example of that. And you make that available
for free. People can get an idea of the kind of depth of information
that you've got just looking at those free samples, and they're very useful,
and it covers a wide variety of things. And if it's not something that
is you know, things that you understand, but maybe it's not your area
of expertise, you've partnered with other people who are experts in that. And
that's the key thing. I've had so many people think me after they got
the Civil Defense Manual, and again, I've got it right here. It
goes as a pair. We've been showing the thing, but it's a pair
of manuals, and you only sell it as a pair because you want people
to get the full picture, and you only sell it as a physical book
because the computer is not necessarily going to be around. And so it's a
great way for people to prepare so that they are able to defend themselves and
protect their loved ones and others in the neighborhood. And also it's something that
if nothing happens, at least you've met your neighbors and maybe you can come
together and work on some other common problems that you can rally around. And
so I think it's a great approach. I think that that's one of the
biggest things that we've gained in our neighborhood. We all know each other now.
Yeah, we got an old gal that we were taking medicines too.
Because see, very reclusive. We didn't know people. All the people around
here, most of them didn't know anything about her, and so we ended
up talking to her and we asked people in the neighborhood is there something Is
there a handicap or do you have a disability. I mean, we're not
going to play taxi cab driver, but we do want to know that we
can help people if there's some type of an emergency, right because there are
people, there are neighbors. That's what we've always done in these cities,
these places that we've formed, not just for commace commerce, it was they
were formed for people to help take care of each other and protect each other.
So and it's one of these things where you know, it's so difficult
to get to know neighbors because nobody comes to other house typically, you know,
usually seeing our community. That's right, we go to work, we
come home, but the garage are down. Most people never get to know
their neighbors. Now, I've always been different because I'm from a southern Minnesota
farm family and and I've just been one of these people that this is a
real fun and some joke. I want to know if I got some joker.
It's a problem in my neighborhood too, so I make an excuse to
go around. But it's usually been I've only had one instance of that in
my entire life. Guy that I didn't like, and I told him.
He started complaining about the black guy moving in, and I told him,
don't you ever parked your bicycle in front of my house? Again, I
said, that guy's a great guy. I know that guy. And this
guy was a former city inspector for Los Angeles who is so sour and you
know, people didn't like him. But the point being that take care of
your neighbors. That's right. They are what is going to help protect you.
And there's a real felt need for this and people understand that. So
it's a great way to build relationships and who knows, it could save your
life. So thank you so much for joining us, Jack Lawson, Civil
Defensemanual dot com a great resource. Folks have a great weekend. Thank you
for joining us, and thank you Jack for joining us. Thank you.
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