The following present is Del Marvis Studios Production. Welcome back to truth seekers from
around the world. It's time for another edition of the Flat Earth Files.
I hope this podcast finds you well as we continue to navigate our way through
bizarro world. Hope everybody's having a good week. It's humpday. It's late
afternoon on Wednesday, November fifteenth, twenty twenty three as I record this.
This will be going out tonight. Thank you all for your patience. I've
been trying to get this email Slashed Voicemail episode out for a couple of weeks
now, actually about ten days ago put one together. I wasn't pleased with
it whatsoever by the way it came out, so I scrapped it. And
I have tried on at least three separate occasions to sit down and record this,
and something has come up every single time. But I took ninety minutes
out of my day to day to ensure we're going to go with this and
we're going to release it tonight and hopefully it comes out good and I don't
forget anything, which is another one of the reasons that I left. I
decided to scrap it. There was a few things I felt important that I
left out. Well, when you're putting these things together, there's a whole
bunch of notes. You don't want to miss any emails, any voicemails.
And there was actually an Eddie Griffin clip that both drew and actually today before
I started, Gabriel had mentioned and I think it's really important. I wanted
to make it a part of this episode. So here we are. You'll
have your episode today this Sunday. We're hoping to have our episode with Colton.
We'll be recording that tomorrow night, so you'll have an episode this weekend
as well, and hopefully we'll get back in the saddle. It's just been
very, very very busy. Normally this time of year for me and the
family, things slowed down as November, you know, comes to the calendar,
but it just hasn't been that way. We've been so busy with things
here, family events, just a whole plethora of things. Obviously, with
the things going on in the world, a lot of my attention has been
drawn to my other podcast obviously, So it's just been extremely busy. And
I hope everyone is well, both mentally and physically. You know, we
get a lot of email here. There are a lot of people going through
difficult times, so keep those folks in your prayers, and keep everyone in
your prayers. Right, we're living in tumultuous times, so there's a lot
of people crying for war, but we should all be praying for peace.
So keep that in your back pocket. And again, I hope this finds
you well. We are going to kick this podcast off with voicemails, and
our first voicemail comes from Joe. Hey, georgeous, is mine Joe Suitz
And and you're nearing bedroom and just want to let you know that you're doing
an awesome job spreading a word about Gladder, about God, about everything.
It's just there's a lot of controversy out there on every information that's being given
out. I've been looking at this this flag for more than fifteen years,
twenty years, and yeah, people saying, oh, people on one side,
people on the other side. But what they got to really look at
is literally the Bible. I mean, what it says and what is,
what has been, what it is and what is to come. A lot
of people say that the next war is done, duclear war. They don't
have that power to to the store this only God does, so keep up
the good work and I will keep listening. Thank you very much and look
forward to your next podcast. Bye. Thank you, Joseph, Thank you
for your service. Brother. I hope you had a great Veterans Day weekend.
And that's pretty impressive. You've been on the precipice of flat Earth for
almost two decades. That's quite an awakening, especially that shortly after nine to
eleven. And that's really impressive because I think the mainstream kind of flat earth
movement that really came about when you two, before they controlled the algorithms,
was twenty fourteen. So I'm very impressed with people who've been looking at this
for ten years. And to hear that you've been really a part of the
flatterth community for fifteen to twenty years is extremely, extremely impressive. And again,
the Bible, in my opinion, the most accurate history book out there.
Our text books. Again, we've talked about this before. The people
who controlled the text books, excuse me, are the winners of wars.
Right. His story is literally what his story means. It's his story,
and you get to hear one side of this story. And if you look
at the people who control the textbooks, again that the people who have literally
been tied directly to Jeffrey Epstein, both Gaslaine Maxwell's father, and Leon Black,
who all have been part owners or at least part owners of mcgrawla Hill
Textbooks, which is number two in the world. I have a direct association
with that guy, so there's an agenda with that. And for the most
part, you know, the Bible has been untouched for many, many years,
and I get a lot of people asking, you know, I'm going
to give a presentation to my school, I need some things regarding flat Earth
that not directly attached to the Bible. And that's good too, because you
want to have the physical proofs, and we usually go to the curvature is
normally the biggest fallacy amongst the globe earthers. And then there's the other things
like waters sticking to a ball and this constant motion how we're spinning and rotating.
But the North Star is right there, it's not moving every single night.
So great stuff on your behalf. Obviously you are a critical thinker if
you're that og and flat earth. And lastly, something I don't know how
much we've talked about, but I do think that it is fair to question
the reality of nuclear missiles, because what Joseph is saying is how you know,
how arrogant is it for man to say that I can destroy God's creation?
And for someone hearing this for the first time, what I will direct
you to is to go look at the pictures of Nagasaki and Hiroshima, and
then look at the pictures of the Tokyo firebombing in March of nineteen forty five.
They're the same. This is the flat Earth file. So I'm not
going to break down the entire thought process behind it, and was only one
journalist allowed and all the names behind it. That is something I'll give you
the clues to and you can run from it and make your decision from there.
Right, But the fact that you haven't seen one in eighty years,
and listen, if I'm wrong, we'll find out. Right. But if
you look back to even that explosion in Beirut Lebanon just a few years ago,
was it August twenty twenty, If they said that was a small nuclear
missile and they showed you that video, people would buy it. Right,
This micro nuke, this is what it can do. So there's a reason
for the process for all the things that they do, and most of the
things they speak about are fear tactics. Right, Well, you're on a
spinning ball and an asteroid can hit us and demolish us at any second.
You know, we've got nukes. The world had what did they say?
The world has so many nukes they could destroy the world thousands of times over,
just completely destroy the earth. But there's really from my perspective, only
God has the ability to do that. So great voicemail, Joseph again,
thanks for your service, brother, and we are going to go to the
next voicemail. And I believe next in the shoot is Dan George. How
was it going? Dan? Here from southern Utah. So it's been a
while since I left the voicemail. They're probably piling up because I had a
lot of thoughts. So I just want to share something kind of cool.
So I had a yesterday. So today is October sixth, So yesterday,
October fifth, I had breakfast with my pastor. I go to a really
cool new non denominational church. It's a new church plant here locally to me,
and great community. And so anyway talk to I've got to know the
pastors, so we've become friends now, so you know, we talk all
the time. So anyway we're gonna have breakfast, or we did have breakfast
and coffee and we're sitting down just kind of catch up on life. I've
been going through some rough things and so he was just you know, encouraging
me and listening and all that stuff, and just through that conversation, and
I'm sharing this because it maybe it's maybe there's people out there that are wondering,
you know, how they can break up the conversation of flat Earth,
like with their pastors or their leaders or whatever, and this might be one
way if it, you know, organically makes sense. So so I had
men of them, and just through the natural progression of our conversation, I
was sharing with him on just how I've I've been in a really real dry
spot spiritually. I've been a Christian for twenty three years. I had great
routines for quite a while, and just the last several years have just been
everything's kind of falling off the rails, struggles in life and all that stuff,
and that that has really come down to just you know, the basics
of a routine with with my faiths have just kind of gone to the wayside,
so you know, I'm not in the Word every day and or even
every week, and just the struggles in that area. So I was just
sharing with him this and then I said, you know, but I said,
I've been actually digging into the Word like the last you know, a
couple of months, really the last like several weeks, and just digging into
different topics and stuff like that. And he was like, oh, that's
great, and so here that I said, I said, actually, the
thing that really got me to start digging into the Word again was this whole
idea of flat earth. And he was like really, and I said yeah,
I said, so you know, when I went, I had never
heard about this, and when I came across this whole idea and I found
out that there's you know that it's it's very biblical, and so it started
digging in. I said. I reread the Creation account and Genesis and with
this idea that that God created this flat plane with a firm and above and
you know, and we're sitting outside of this coffee shop, and so I
pointed straight up and I said, and I understand that God is literally right
there, you know, and that the stars and the sun of the moon
are you know, that's how we those are for seasons and uh in the
times and it's basically our you know, our star clock or whatever and anyway,
so then I was just like, and then I started referencing Scripture and
then you know, I was talking about how you know, with that understanding
of what the firmament is, which I read a translation for years that never
even had that word. I didn't know the word. And then I found
out what it was and I dug deep. And then I said, and
then with this idea, I started reading all the verses throughout the Old and
New Testament that are talking about how the earth doesn't move and it's on pillars
and it's got corners, And I said, so what the heck is with
that? You know? And then I said, recently I go I dug
into Revelation. I started reading Revelations with this idea of a you know,
a non rotating flat plane that we live on, and I'm and it's just
coming alive. I said, so, how how would it be possible for
the section in Revelation where they're pouring out all the bulls and they pour a
bull out on the sun. How is that possible? If it's ninety three
million miles away. And anyway, so he was just like listening intently and
I don't think I got a convert out of the deal, but I you
know, and he just he just was grateful. He's like, man,
that's awesome. I love the hearing the things that caused people to dive into
the word, and it just sparked a really encouraging conversation. So anyway,
it wasn't awkward. It's very natural and I was able to share a lot,
and you know, I didn't lose a friend over it, and you
know, and like I said, it wasn't wasn't an awkward thing. So
anyway, I'm coming up on the five minutes, but I want to share
that because I was a pretty exciting thing. So anyway, God bless your
brother and keep doing the great work. Just a tremendous message and it really
goes you know, it goes to show how important it is to be able
to have someone that they can sit down and have a cup of coffee with.
And you know, it's great to share these voicemails and emails, but
you know, people crave, you know, to have a conversation, to
be able to go have a cup of coffee and speak their mind without being
judged. And to be honest with you, you know that's I expected a
lot more. I guess you would call it hate mail. Then I get,
I get very little. It's loving community. And it's so good to
hear that you have a pastor that's willing to listen to something that most people,
when you bring it up, their eyes are going to bug out and
they're going to say, hey, Dan, are you okay? Man?
I mean you really you think the earth is flat, but you brought it
from a logical standpoint, You brought it from a biblical standpoint, and you
explained to him how it brought you kind of back into a rhythm and closer
to God. And again, while you say you may have not converted him,
just listening to the reaction of you explaining, you know, what he
was thinking and his kind of body motions when you were talking, you may
have got him curious enough when he got home. Maybe he went on of
course, if he went on Google, he may have gotten a few things
is how flat earth is debunked, and you know pictures of people with tin
hats. So maybe a follow up, right, uh, maybe a link
to Pastor Dianodle. Right, it's great you found a great non denominational church
that you're comfortable with and able to have these type of conversations. That is
something everyone should champion, being able to sit down and speak your mind without
being judged. And uh, that's wonderful and I'd love to hear more of
these type of stories. Being able to connect locally and even you know,
greater with with your pastor. It's great stuff. All right, Our next
I think our next voicemail is from Jim Hey George is gem O. Were
in Tennessee. I got something I was gonna tell you about. And you
know, everybody on the podcast slightly a few people's been talking about the dream
they had or this or that. I don't share much like that. Por
fact, I don't I don't dream that much, or I don't remember my
dreams well when I do dream. But I had a terrible, not terrible.
I had an awesome experience. Really, I was just dozing off and
in my mind I was I was asleep. I wasn't thinking about this,
but I was asleep. But I was drifting towards the sun. I was
basically in I was in space. Basically I was in the darkness and you
know, I was just coming up towards the Sun. I wasn't hot or
anything. I wasn't stressed out about it. It was pretty amazing. And
uh, I had went around the Sun and when I got around the Sun,
there was another sun, except it was black, and uh it was
a peer of metallic it was it was magnetic. It was it was the
most immense power that I could even imagine when when it as soon as I
seen it peeking when I when I was going around the Sun and I seen
it, you know, I heard it, I felt it, and I
woke up with the vibration in my heart, like like my chest was was
literally humming with this vibration, which you know, really really shocked me.
You know, I kind of woke up. I was like whoa. And
when I woke up, all I could think about is the immense power of
this thing. This thing was the true power of our world. It wasn't
you know, the sun. This thing was power in the sun. And
I don't know how I knew it, but I knew it. And so
you know, the just to describe it, you know, it wasn't smooth,
it was uh, it was almost a little battered looking. It was
just not battered, but like it been in it or it was just it
was just it was like peeling, like like metal peeling up here and there
something. You know, it just wasn't smooth. I don't know how else
the scent, but you know, so it wasn't that big of a deal,
you know, I you know, it really affected me in uh.
I didn't think too much more about it. And then literally seven days later
it happened again. And at this time, you know, it was the
exact same visuals. I'm drifting towards the sun, quiet, peaceful, and
I get around the sun and then fam the vibration, the the power,
the immense power of this this black object. This time I woke up with
my teeth chattering, literally my jaw, you know, I don't know how
to say it. My teeth were chattering just from the vibration, just from
the uh, you know, I just I just went through the power of
this field. This thing is putting out and you know, I don't know,
I don't I'm sure it means nothing, but coming from a guy I'm
fifty fifty or fifty one years old, and I, uh, you know,
I don't have any dreams to speak of throughout my life. So when
I had this dream and then it the first time, and then then when
it happened the second time, I was like, huh, you know,
really really weird. I'm sure, you know, I'm sure. Maybe don't
mean anything, you know, maybe I've just been thinking about this eclipse coming
up in April, I think April of next year, of twenty twenty four.
I think we're gonna go down to Missouri, or we're gonna think of
somewhere to go to see the path where I live in Tennessee is gonna be
ninety percent, you know, ninety percent eclipse, but it's a total eclipse
in a certain spots. So I think we're gonna drift over to Missouri and
you know, just make a day of it. So maybe it's been on
my mind. Maybe that's why I had it. But hey man, other
people was telling you about their dreams, and you know, I just I
literally haven't shared this with anybody. I haven't told anybody. Yeah, I
didn't even tell my wife about it. It's just something that I don't know.
I just kept it to myself. I was kind of wondering if it
was gonna happen a third time. You know, I can't make it happen,
but you know, I'm just gonna tell you all about it. Maybe
it's nothing. Probably it's nothing, but it was cool and it makes you
wonder. All Right, I'm gonna get out there, you go. That's
very interesting. And I'm not a big breaker down of dreams. But the
reason I wanted to play it is because I've mentioned a dream on there before
and I got a lot of voicemails, so I wanted to play Jim's message
and then if you have an interpretation of it, send us an email the
Flatterphiles at gmail dot com and I'll certainly share it with Jim, and on
the next listener email podcast we'll share it as well. I dream almost every
night, and for the most part, I remember them. I remembered dreams
that I've had when I was a child, when I was seven eight years
old. I still remember some of the dreams I've had. Whether or not,
it's just, you know, there are many interpretations of what dreams are
or can be. Many of my military related, you know, I've mentioned
that before, but I'd love to hear people's opinion of Jim's dream and what
it might mean, because it is a very very unique for sure. Okay.
Our next voicemail is from north of the border in Ontario, Canada.
Hi, George, Jane here, Ontario, Canada. And I've just been
thinking, you know, I like to kind of do some research, ain't
and do people have? Let people do like research kind of with me and
like go oh wow, look at that kind of like you know, this
research the temperature that Van Allen about and that says this between two and twenty
thousand calvin. So you look up just even the lowest number, the two
thousand calvin there, and you see why that it is. It is one
thousand, seven hundred and twenty six degree celsius. You can turn that into
farenheap if you like. Then you ask okay, so they went to the
moon what was the moon lander made of? To google? What's the moon
lander made of? And then if Joe said, it's made out of mostly
aluminum, okay, so let's go look at the melting point of aluminum.
Wow, the melting point of aluminum is only six hundred and sixty degrees celsius,
far lower than one seven and twenty six degrees celsius, don't you think.
And that's when the Van allen Bell supposedly is at the slowest temperature.
So I ask you, how how did they get ever through the Van Allen
Bell to go to the mitt? So to me, I know, it's
the permament. Of course we understand this, but to help them put it
in their perspective and maybe started thinking about what they're toold might get them thinking,
okay, then what else are they lying about? Anyway, I had
to share that with you. I's too sure my thoughts more often, I
guess, But it's just something simple like that, using their math with their
to them and having them realize that it's still physically impossible to go to the
moon. So meanwhile, I know the Moon's not a rock, It's not
a solid rocket. I do understand that. That's why everybody know. Anyway,
Thank you, George, I think you could speak quite Keep up the
good work, and thank you very much. And I have one alibi from
Jim's voicemail before I go to the next one, which is he mentioned the
solar eclipse next year, which is April eighth, twenty twenty four. And
if you live in I think the path goes basically San Antonio, Waco,
parts of Dallas and Fort Worth will see it, and it pretty much goes
right down the middle of the country. Saint Louis you might be just west
of the path. It'll go through Indianapolis, Louisville, Cleveland. We'll be
able to see the path of the total solar eclipse. Excuse me, Toronto
up to Montreal and bangor Maine should see it. I'll leave a link to
the twenty twenty four solar eclipse in the show description and again to this voice
spout. The Eagle litter module used in the Apollo program was built almost completely
of aluminum. And again this is according to NASA. The crew compart,
for example, is primarily comprised of aluminum alloy. And again you look at
two thousand kelvin is almost thirty two hundred degrees fahrenheit. And again aluminum's melting
point and obviously it would give long before that. It is twelve hundred and
twenty one degrees fahrenheit six hundred and sixty celsius. So again, according to
their science, right their science, there's no way they should have gone through
the Van Allen Belt. Now we all know there's no Van Allen Belt.
It's the firmaent. You can't get there. But again it's just another it's
using their tolls, their tools. Excuse me to poke holes in their story,
right, and these are the things that we should hold them accountable for
and make them answer to if we ever want to make a difference. Right,
if we know everything is just a lie, why do we continue to
send all that money to them? And I think again, I think it's
much deeper and much more nefarious than just faking going to the moon. Is
it a continuation of Nimrod's work? All right? Our next one, I
think it's Tim from Wisconsin. They you're a decent Tim Wisconsin. I just
wanted to come on here and say a few things. You know, I
appreciate what you're doing here on that flatter files kind of crazy, you know,
Like I just I love the fact that you're allowing people to do this.
Right now. Anyway, I was going to pop gas this morning and
they have it. You know, this thing pops up on the screen you
know where it's a first day you know thing to the how we coming up
here? And they got like this spell book with this pentagram on the front
with the little G you know, the location G on the front, and
I'm like, and then the book opens it it's like, you know,
versus of the day is apparition and stuff like that. I'm like, man,
they just be poasting up all kinds of like witchy witch stuff. You
know, I get that Halloween coming up, but bro, if Christmas were
Easter were to come along, you know, nobody would be allowed to just
you know, post up things about christ without someone you know, having a
fiddle. And I just feel like it's just crazy. I wanted to come
on and let you know that I appreciate what you're doing and uh yeah,
shut out to everybody that you had on your show. Man, I just
got caught up with everything and I just want to let you know that it's
made a huge impact in my life. It's just it's changed things for the
better for me, you know. And he really had brought me quotes it
to God. And I know it's like broken record saying that, but it
really had. They really helped me. See the broad and I Expectrum was
saying, it's funny because like I came on and they went from being a
flatters while it's really well coming to a point where it's like to the glory
of God, now you know, I mean, I know it's not all
about that, but really, you know, the biblical cosmology of everything.
Man, dude, it's amazing, and I appreciate what you've done. So
yeah, shout out from the Scouts, but Tim, thank you very much
for that. I appreciate it. I appreciate the kind words. And it's
good to know that the work that we and when I say we, I
mean myself and all the people over the last year who has come on and
shared their stories, and in many cases it's the first time that they've ever
really got behind a microphone and a type of public While you're not speaking in
front of people directly, your voice goes out to hundreds of thousands of people
around the world, and for many people it's the first time that they're doing
something like this. So I employed I applaud excuse me, so many people
who have volunteered to come on their show, on the show and share their
thoughts of Flatter Earth and a lot of deeper aspects to it, right their
faith and in some cases personal tragedies and how it's affected their life. People
have been so open. But I think the most important thing is it's people
realize, hey, there's like minded people out there. I'm not the only
one who thinks like this, right, And for many of us we think,
you know, am I crazy? My only only one who thinks like
this? And then when you find videos on YouTube or podcasts that resonate with
you, it makes you feel like a small part of the family. So
thank you Tim for that, Thanks for reaching out, and I'm so glad
that this podcast brings a little bit of community. I know people have met
up some folks who have been on the show. They've gotten emails and found
local people and actually have been able to sit down and have a cup of
coffee with each other. It's amazing. So you know, if you hear
somebody on the podcas cast and they're near your neck of the woods, reach
out to them and maybe you can have a cup of coffee with them as
well. I think our less voicemail is from Jim. Hey, George is
Jimmy. We're in Tennessee. Had something happened at work again, it was
pretty funny. I thought I'd take because you know, long story short,
you know, my boss, we were all outside looking at the stars.
I don't remember. He made a comment. He said, uh, and
and I told him what I thought about it. He said, well,
if you think, you know, you got to think about it because and
I said, I said, he I've thought about it more than most people.
You know, I'll promise you I've thought about it. That's my opinion.
And you know, and he kind of left at that. And so
a few days later, he says, have you ever thought the Earth could
be flat? That's what he tells me. Now and now it has a
over anxious flat earth. I wanted to joke out of my skin and say,
hell, yeah, it's flat. But you know, I'm almost proud
of myself. George, I said. I said, uh, you know
what, it wouldn't surprise me. That's what I told him. I said,
you know, you know what, it wouldn't surprise me. I said.
They literally lie about everything. I said, everything that you know,
we've been told, we have to question. I don't believe anything they say.
So I kind of left it at that. Now we was fairly busy
at work and everything, and so I just kind of left it at that.
And now daily I drop a little nugget, I drop a little something,
and I'm not trying to be dishonest, but I am kind of playing
to him like I'm just discovering flat Earth with him. I mean, I
just didn't want to tell him everything. I don't know why, but I
just let him think he's leading me to the truth and it's it's it's funny,
but but it's working a little bit. So I mean, I like
it. You know, I just thought, I just thought I dropped that
on you, and you know, I was gonna have the uh, I
was gonna have the meeting with my family. And I still haven't done it.
You know. I know I probably called in twice and said I was
gonna do it. Now I'm working too much. I'm still in the slave
race, sir. You know. You know it's sixty seventy hours a week,
sixty seven days a week right now, and it's just hard to do
anything when you're working that much. It's by design, I'm sure by design,
you know. I figure Christmas is coming up. I better get the
overtime while I can. Blah blah blah. It's all part of the system
to keep us, keep us, keep us busy, keep us paying taxes,
keep us at work. I don't know anyway, I want to drop
it, nugget. I thought you'd think it was funny. But all right,
all right, I'm gonna get off here. All right, Thank you
brother. That's interesting. And listen, there is still it seems like there's
a work shortage or a right, there's a shortage of workers out there.
Anytime you go somewhere, the service is slower. There's not you know,
if you go to like a Low's. We go down to the Low's in
Camden, Delaware, there's a shortage there. There's a huge shortage, at
least here in our state. I can't speak for everywhere else, but here
in Delaware there's a huge medical professional shortage. My wife could work seven days
a week if she wanted to. Every day she's off, and she's off
more days than she works. She gets a phone call asking can you come
in tonight. We'll give you an extra ten twenty dollars an hour. In
some cases that we're offering her twenty extra dollars per hour to come into work.
But that's how bad things have gotten because of what happened three years ago.
You're going to get a job or you're gonna have to leave. And
people found other occupations or other workplaces that accepted. You know, we're hiring
nurses or doctors and you don't have to get experimental gene therapy. And now
they're reaping what they sewed unfortunately, and of course who pays for it.
We do, because when you get sick and have to go to the doctors,
you have to wait longer. You don't get the proper care because of
the shortage. I could go on and on and on about that. As
to what you mentioned, that's really awesome. Really there's flat huh. And
then you can you can kind of feed them things, right, Hey,
you know what. I was on the internet last night and I found this.
Look look at the curvature. This doesn't make any sense. And you
can continue to feed them information right, and you can land yourself a new
flat earther. And of course the domino effect. Maybe he'll go wake someone
else up and it'll continue on. And obviously this topic is making the rounds.
You guys know, I think, let me double don't to pause this
and give you the right date. Okay. I had to go to Pastor
Odel's website deanodl dot org. The Great Biblical Creation Debate. Pastor Dnodle and
Pastor Greg Locke at Pastor Locke's Church, which is Global Vision Bible Church in
Mount Juliet, Tennessee. It is Saturday, December two, twenty twenty three,
at six pm Central Standard Time. Now, one of our listeners made
a couple great points. This is a highly anticipated event. So if you're
thinking about just driving in your car and showing up and running a hotel,
a couple of things just to think and consider. If there's going to be
a huge turnout, maybe make sure you make your reservations far in advance.
Also reach out to Pastor Locke's church. While I'm sure the event's going to
be free, is it first come, first serve or how does all that
work? So just kind of keep all that in the back of your mind
if you're going to make your journey for what is going to be an epic
night for sure. Pastor Odele and I talked to him, and I told
him that we were all praying for him, and that you know, he
showed as sermon to the congregation down there. He has a handful of people
going with them. It should be a tremendous night. Again, It's Saturday,
December two to twenty twenty three at six pm Central Standard Time, Global
Vision Bible Church, Mount Juliet, Tennessee, Pastor Dean Odle debating with Pastor
Greg Locke and again go to Deanodle dot org for more information. All right,
so we're going to continue one. I am going to play the Eddie
Griffin clip Eddie Griffin, Ladies and gentlemen. He has talked about the Earth
being flat for a long time. Let's get into it. Space like every
other day, man, I need to go out of space. What's out
out space? All? And he never making the rocket shint. It's the
furnament, and the furnment stops. It ain't nobody dead to the mode.
Ain't nobody then outside this giant cage we're trapped at. The fundament is real.
That's why rocket ships take off and they stuff shooting at the ankle.
They'll scrape the furnament and they always laying in the oce. Then they shoot
some grainy film that they were on the moon. It's great, the surface
of the furnament. Landing. It's only one day, but the landing is
like a week later. But that's when they show it. HM, all
the shit they am the one day, there's no satellites out there either,
nagging there, there's there's no sites. You know, riotous today, Ask
so I mean parbats that break up out of the city saying what it lacks,
Yeah, saying takes on them the satellite. Yeah, you know,
if there's no satellites, they are handing day satellites in the firmament. This
is on GBS system, and that's the permanent GBS system. They call it
space. But the space betwayed Earth and God is called the firmament. Until
he opens that up. It's gonna be continued further. It's called the firmament.
It's any Bible. Nothing. We'll get through the furtherment. Oh,
flat Earth is real. Hey, the world is not round. If it
was, I guest disproved it many many times. But anyway, Uh,
there's an ice wall already, our three dimensional world called Earth that lays on
a two dimensional plan right, the WOD trapped in the scenter on this planet,
in the ice wall. This is why if you fly from anywhere on
Earth to Australia, you know, to Antarctica, why don't you always have
to fly to England and to make it seem like the world is around.
You had to travel that far from Toroida and Ardy is about four and a
half hours on a straight shot. So why the fuck you gotta fly out
Florida to London and then it any more and you call it wrong. You
gotta go to London, in London and London and then yeah, Ohverri,
you know you're going to London because that reptilian is dead, said you must
conture there. Oh boy, he just went reptilians on us. And obviously
what he was talking about there at the end was, you know, flights
from the Southern Hemisphere to the Southern Hemisphere they always asterisks. Ninety nine point
nine percent of the time. There is one or two days a week when
they have the dreamliner that will go, but again it's only once or twice
a week, and it's extremely expensive. The rest of the time you're normally
stopping it. Like Dubai. You are hitting the northern Hemisphere on a globe.
It doesn't make any sense. On the flat earth, it makes perfect
sense. By the way, I didn't know Eddie Griffin, of course comedian
grew up a Jove's witness. Interesting, I did not know that, as
they say, of course known for his The Deuce Bigelo movie, scary movie,
and does a lot of stand up on Comedy Central. Eddie Griffin,
Flat Earth. There you go. Before we get to the emails, I
do have one clip that I would like to play from one of our great
listeners. Check this out. Hey George, I love your show. Thank
you for your hard work. My name is Desmond. You read quite a
long sermony wrote for episode fifty five. Thank you for that. Today I
have an announcement. I have excellent news for everyone. For the entire community,
our flatterth community now has an ideological cultural tool to promote the superiority of
God's true cosmology. You know, just like chess was used by Russia to
raise the cultural level of laboring masses, and I believe later they used it
as an ideological tool for you know, to prove to people that they were
intellectually more superior than other nations. We have something. We have a game,
and although we are mocked, the truth is we who believe in God's
true cosmology are in an intellectually superior position. Now we have a game of
the same caliber as chess and the ancient game of go. It's called murr.
The game of Murr. It was inspired from the Book of Genesis and
is an answer to prayer. It stands on the shoulders of chess and go.
It's the world's first open system game, making it a huge challenge for
AI. It has a simple yet profoundly sophisticated code of play. And you
know what it is. It is an intellectual trojan horse meant to captivate intellectuals.
It's cultural warfare. Should you choose to partake in this open intellectual cultural
war, kindly do the following. Purchase Immerseet from our website and present the
game as a gift to a very intelligent person who likes games such as chess,
with a knowledge that after a keen novice of the game has immersed himself
and even promoted the game to others. That should you kindly then inform that
individual that the inventor is a Christian who believes in biblical cosmology. That dear
person, having already had a deep appreciation for the beautiful MC mechanics made possible
from the geocentric believing mind of the inventor, will be significantly more likely to
wake up engage in cultural warfare. Today. Some people write books I've invented
a game. Visit Mervhfederation dot com. That's m rfederation dot com today,
purchase a set and let's begin this cultural warfare for true cosmology. Thank you,
Thank you, Desmond, and to all the listeners. The link will
be in the show description. Check out the game, very very interesting.
Again, the link to the website will be in the show notes show description.
However, your podcast provider notes it and it'll take your right to the
game. And congratulations. That's you know, Aiading a game is a heck
of an accomplishment. So hats off to you, Desmond, and we wish
you all the best. And again, support a fellow biblical cosmologist, someone
who is creating things right, support each other. So there you go.
All right, let's move along. Two our emails, and the first one
incredible. A seventeen year old from Tennessee. I could not imagine thinking like
this when I was seventeen, But this is from Gavin. He says,
I don't know that I have enough fresh info to bring for a whole episode
to the podcast. And with that note being said, I told him whenever
he's ready to come on, he's welcome to come on. But he says
that he's completely caught up on all the episodes, but there's some things I
haven't heard yet that I've found in the Bible. I've grown up a Baptist,
and I have always known God, but this has certainly gotten me even
closer than I was before. It all started with some Native American folklore.
Oddly enough, the windw go and skin walkers and those kinds of creatures.
Specifically, the background on those creatures sound really close to condemned souls and demons
once you look into them, just like how looking into famous eyes you don't
see life anyone, Excuse me AnyWho, one thing led to another, And
after spending time researching demons and demonology, which is a hard line to walk,
because I almost started feeling convictions as I was learning and studying more about
Satan than I had my savior. And I think we've discussed this before.
When you go down these type of rabbit holes, you really have to be
careful, whether it's looking into Jamatria or like Gavin is saying, looking into
demonology, you really have to be careful. He says, I came to
the same conclusion that after the Nephelum and the demons and how Satan himself were
all condemned to death and cast out of heaven. They're all within us.
I'm not sure about lizard people, but maybe that's a slang for demons.
Recently, I've been spending lots of time in the Bible, reading around where
the pastor preaches each Sunday morning. Our pastor gets about thirty two minutes per
sermon, as us Baptists like our music. As well as being out of
the church by eleven am sharp, we used the King James version. So
we've been in the Ten Commandments recently, and I read through, and reading
through, I found Exodus twenty verses eighteen through twenty two. It says,
and all the people saw the thunderings and the lightnings, and the noise of
the trumpet, and the mountains smoking. And when the people saw it,
they removed and stood afar off. And they said, unto Moses, speak
thou with us, and we will hear. But let not God speak to
us lest we die. And Moses said to the people, fear not,
for God has come to prove you, and that his fear may be before
your faces. That ye sin not. And the people stood afar off,
and Moses drew near unto the thick darkness where God was, And the Lord
said, unto Moses, thou shalt say, unto the children of Israel,
ye have seen that I have talked with you from heaven. Another thing I
wanted to point out with Psalms nineteen one. Yes, this gets brought up
a lot, but if you keep reading, you will come across a very
meaningful piece of context. The heavens declared the glory of God, and the
firmament showeth his handiwork day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night showeth
knowledge. There is no speech nor language where the voice is not heard.
Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the
end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the Sun,
which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and he rejoiceth
as a strong man to run a race. His going forth is from the
end of heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it. And there
is nothing hid from the heat thereof The law of the Lord is perfect,
converting the soul. The testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the
simple, the statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart. The
commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes. The fear of the
Lord is clean, enduring forever. The judgments of the Lord are true and
righteous. Altogether more to be desired are they than gold, yea than much
fine gold. Sweeter also than honey, and the honeycom so that Psalms nineteen
one, all the way through verse ten goes on to say that these are
just a couple of examples of things I found in the Bible that have intrigued
me. So other things I don't think I've heard mentioned on the podcast.
This could possibly be talking about the Devil's Tower, which a few of our
listeners, including our guests, I should say, have mentioned. I think
Kathy, the last guest, mentioned it as well. Thus were visions of
mine head in my bed, I saw and behold a tree in the midst
of the earth, And the height thereof was great. The tree grew and
was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof
to the end of all of the earth. The leaves thereof were fair,
and the fruit thereof much, and in it was meat for all the beasts
of the field had shadow under it, and the fowls of the heaven dwelt,
and the boughs thereof and all flesh was fed of it. I saw
in the heavens of my head upon my bed, and behold a watcher,
and a holy one came down from heaven. He cried aloud, and said,
thus, hew down the tree, cut off his branches, shake off
his leaves, and scatter his fruit. Let the beasts get away from under
it, and the fowls from his branches. Nevertheless, leave the stump of
his root in the earth, even with a band of iron and brass,
in the tender grass of the field, and let it be wet with the
dew of heaven. And let his portion be with the beasts and the grass
of the earth. Let his heart be changed from man's, and let a
beast's art be given unto him, and let seven times pass over him.
This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the
word to the Holy ones, to the attent, that the living may know
that the Most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth to whomever
will, and setteth up over the basis of men. Daniel four ten through
seventeen, and again Daniel is certainly one of those prophetic books in the Bible,
And a lot of people think we are if we're not in that time,
we are certainly during that time. Again, that was Daniel four verses
ten or seventeen. And then he goes out to say, possibly talking about
the Aurora borealis quote. And I looked, and behold, a whirlwind came
out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself,
and a brightness was about it. And out of the midst thereof is the
color of amber, out of the midst of the fire. Also out of
the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their
appearance. They had the likeness of a man, and everyone had four faces,
and everyone had four wings, and their feet were straight, and the
sole of their feet was like the soul of a calf's foot. And they
sparkled like the color of burnished brass. And they had the hands of a
man under their wings on the four sides. And they and the four had
their faces and their wings their wings were joined to one another. They turned
not when they went, They went, everyone straightforward as for the likenesses of
their faces, the four had the face of a man, the face of
a lion on the right side, and they four had the face of an
ox on the l left side. The four also had the face of an
eagle. Thus with their faces and their wings stretched upwards, and they went
to everyone straightforward whither the spirit was to go, They went, and they
turned not when they went. It went up and down among the living creatures,
and the fire was bright, and out of the fire went forth lightning.
That was Ezekiel. Chapter one, verses four through thirteen, closes with
long email. In my honest opinion, context to anything is too important to
leave out. It's not always about the war. It's what started the war.
Why are we a part of it? And why are we fighting?
You know, what are we fighting for? Without context, things can be
misconstrued and misunderstood. The Pharisees believed the first five books of the Bible with
all their hearts and knew them front to back, but their belief was without
context. They were filing the old law. They still love the Lord,
but they didn't follow the Lord how he intended. I'm continuing my journey,
and I absolutely love the podcast. I can't wait for more content and things
to learn. There you go, Thank you, Gavin, and again I
hope one day down the road you'll come and join us on the podcast.
Well done, well done, young man. All right, let's go to
the next This is from Stephanie and it is as follows. Hello George,
my name is Stephanie. I've recently discovered your podcast a few weeks back.
For the first couple of months, I've been seeing the word firm him and
pop up in a TikTok comment sections within my feed, which certainly piqued my
interest and curiosity as I recalled the word from the Bible. I'm happy to
say that I'm pretty open minded individual who about ten years ago had already become
privy to the dark side of the entertainment industry and everything else which we know
to be running the show. So once I discovered your show, I began
listening intently and doing my own researching and connecting the dots, and I was
able to come to the point rather quickly the reality that our Earth is an
extended, relatively flat plane. Flat Earth was indeed the final puzzle for me,
or as you say, the final rabbit hole. That one goes down.
And though I do wish that I had realized it sooner, knowing now
is better than never knowing at all. Right, absolutely, the veil over
my eyes wasn't just removed, it was completely ripped off. When it all
clicked for me, I just went outside and for the first time ever,
I felt authentically connected to my creator. This is why I wanted to thank
you for what you're doing, because honestly, what has happened within me spiritually
has changed the entire meaning of my personal existence. And I know I'm not
alone and feeling that. I'm so happy and humbled to say that my belief
in God has been renewed after twenty years of doubt, denial, and a
sheer inability to combat the indoctrination that was instilled inside of me long time ago.
Anyway, it has been on my heart to message you for the past
couple of weeks and now to thank you for being such a strong force for
truth and change and acknowledging Him in the midst of all of it. Keep
at it and there you go, Steph. Thank you so much for the
message, the very kind message, and the open message. We all have
our struggles through life, and again what you said. For many of us,
we wish we knew sooner, but it's better to know than not to
have known at all. Right. And while we say this is the final
the other thing I wanted to mention, while we say this is the final
rabbit hole, it certainly leads to many many more, right. And in
our journey we still come upon new information that we weren't privy to before,
and it continues to connect dots. So most of us in the truth community
have a thirst for knowledge, but also accurate knowledge, right, so we
can find our truth. So thank you for the kind email, and God
bless you and your family, and well wishes to y'all. The next one,
Thank you, Sally, she says, George, thank you for your
podcast. I appreciate the content and delivery. I began to question my assumptions
about flatter ath after I realized that derogatory labeling. Right, So we know
you're a flatter earther, you're a conspiracy theorist, anti vaxxer, all the
things that you're labeled if you don't toe the line, right, And she
goes on to say that you know the methodology that is used to control the
minds of people who are prone to embracing a mindset that looks down on others
to prop themselves up. I was already a conspiracy theorist air quotes thanks to
my dad's stories of his time in Vietnam, and an anti vaxxer due to
personal choices about what was ray for my children and massive research to ensure my
decision. I never joined protest groups or shouted at anyone, but still found
myself being the brunt of jokes were derogatory comments made by people I considered to
be friends. You know what the most frustrating thing is, and I'm pausing
her email for a second, is when someone asks you for your opinion and
look at the word opinion, and then and they tell you you're wrong for
your opinion. They're telling you my beliefs are stronger than yours. Right,
you're you're wrong. And that's when they what she's saying is they there's some
things that people are so self defense about that they will just throw things at
you because they can't grasp. And again, we have to remember, at
one point we were all on the other side, right, And when you
try to explain things about nine to eleven or COVID or the truth about vaccines
or biblical cosmology, the flat earth right. It goes against everything they've been
taught in their life. So the easiest and most common self defense mechanism for
them is to just just credit you, right, stupid conspiracy theorist, the
anti vaxxer, flat earther right. And now that most of us have come
to flat Earth, we won't do that to people anymore because if this is
true, right, well, to accept flat earth, well, then we
should be able to look into everything else. And it's tough for me because
the same people who belittled me in twenty twenty and then a couple of years
later came up to me and said, sorry, you were right, are
still defending some of the other things. I'm like, just listen, just
take the time to look for you and don't believe me. Right. And
we have this conversation with in emails with many of my listeners. Right,
I come on here, I tell you my beliefs in my opinions, but
that doesn't mean you should believe them wholesale, investigat them for yourself and come
up to your own conclusions. And that's what Sally saying in this email right,
we're going to continue on. Says I was a practicing attorney for before
deciding to raise a family fifteen years ago, and most recently taught critical thinking
to teenagers while living overseas. I was teaching when the pandemic hit. I
remembered the moment you came one day. I saw red Cross setting tents up,
and after that people began to panic. It was surreal. And she
goes on to say, anyway, I had an idea to find a pre
nineteen fifty eight reference book and came across this dictionary at a use bookstore last
year, and that's a great idea. I have been scouring eBay for the
same so I bought it because the dedication page reference is the Firmament, and
she's attached photos to the cover, the dedication page, the publication page,
et cetera. And she goes on to say, interesting enough, there is
no Antarctica as a separate entry. I thought you might be interested in.
I have a book from the eighteen hundreds that really describes Antarctica completely different than
what we're taught today, not that it's a continent on the bottom of the
Earth. I think the the one I have is from eighteen eighty four.
And this is what I talk about when people ask me I get I'll always
talk about the common email as I get, right. But another one is
can you recommend some books for me? And I always will tell them Manly
p. Hall, Bill Cooper's Behold a Pale Horse, Goodbye Germ Theory used
to Smullus's books, on and on and on, but at the end I
try to remind them, Yeah, you can go to internet. What is
internet archive, which is archive dot org, and all those books are there.
You can read through them for free. But there will come a time,
whether it be next month or two or four years from now, I
don't know, but there's going to time when there is a digital book burning
and books that go against the narrative will disappear off the face of the earth.
Right, everybody's read Fahrenheit four fifty one, Right, it's going to
be similar to that. So if there's something like Behold a Pale Horse is
a very important book to me. I bought the original nineteen ninety one version
because the new version you buy today off Amazon has a chapter taken out of
it. So I went to eBay and I spent a lot of money to
get the original version, and that's because it's important to me. So if
there is a book that resonates with you, I highly encourage you to go
to eBay, you know, goodreads dot com, Lulu which, by the
way, Lulu does have the sixteen emergency landings. We found that out for
sure. Go to lulu dot com sixteen landings emergency landings that prove flat Earth.
But it's it's almost fifty dollars, but they'll print it ship it off
to you. But again, she goes, I thought you might be interested,
and I'd be interested in learning whether any of your listeners have similar books
and what they say. Lastly, I have often considered writing a full curriculum,
as I continue to be just disappointed by any used in my children's schools.
But going it alone is overwhelming. I'd be willing to collaborate with like
minded people to work to develop one if you're compiling a group to do so.
And she closes with thanks again for the wonderful podcast. So again,
with that being in mind, if there's anybody out there who is motivated to
put together a type of you know, a curriculum that isn't based on the
Milky Way and outer space and everything else. I'm I can get your information
and send it to Sally, and it is something that is growing. I
know our friends from the Founded Earth Brothers. He's working on a curriculum and
that's great, and that's tremendous. Even the ones we use for my daughter.
That the science portion of it has a lot of scientology in it,
right, sidetism should say not scientology scientism right, A lot of the we
landed on the moon and everything else. So while the Bible, you know,
she has Bible every day and the math is very good, the science
isn't really good whatso weather, although there's some cool things in there. She
builds her own barometer and things like that. But we all care about our
children and we want them to be the most educated, and we want them
to be able to think outside the box. I think that's the most important
thing that is not taught in school today is critical thinking true, false,
yes or no ABCD. It should be you're given a problem, explain how
you're going to get out of the problem. Actually have the child think like
puzzles. Right, it's good stuff, all right, where you're going to
drive on to the next email and it's from Elizabeth. She says, you
asked if anyone would take a magic pill and go back to not being awake.
I think about this every day of my life. I always think about
wishing I could have that pill in reality, much like people say would they
do X, Y and Z in a situation, I know in my heart
I wouldn't take it. I crave people in friendships and conversation. I've never
felt so alone again. It's a common theme in the truth community. She
goes on to say, I'm very used to being looked at as crazy and
not taking seriously. So standing outside of Walmart is right up my alley because
I don't care. Well, I'll join you sometime up there in Minnesota.
We'll stand outside of Walmart and start asking people questions. She goes on to
say, my family, however, cares very much about other opinions. We
live in a small area, and to keep the peace, I keep quiet.
I started a Facebook page however long it will be there. It's called
not a Globe, and I have subscribed to it. It's new, but
I add to it every day. If anybody wants to email me for more
information, please do so. It is not a Globe seven at gmail dot
com. Again, it is not a Globe seven at gmail dot com.
And I'm copying pasting now as we speak, so I remember to put this
in the show descriptions. So reach out to Elizabeth. She'll give you a
link to the Facebook group and join us. Right. She goes on to
say, I think God has been preparing me my whole life being okay with
being alone here and giving me eyes to see and ears to hear. Thank
you for making me feel a little less alone. I listen to you at
work on my iPod. So there you go. And that's Elizabeth, And
again it's not a Globe seven at gmail dot com. If you have Facebook
and you'd like to join the community, I'm not on Facebook very much.
A couple times a week I'll post a picture of my chickens. This is
something lighthearted. I don't post, you know, obviously stuff here. It's
mostly just family and friends and folks who I served with. It's very light
I'm only in there a couple times a week, but I have gone to
her post and been involved. I need to do more, but check it
out, all right. Our next email is from mister Rice says love your
podcasts and have been so inspired by your story and your broadcast. I am
hopeful to start my own podcast eventually and me reach out for a guidance.
But more on that later. This one's going to take a minute or fifteen,
so grab a cup of coffee and take a seat, and we'll kick
it off. My journey to becoming a full on conspiracy minded, Bible believing,
born again Christian flat earther began back in the eighties as a Catholic kid.
I recall my first question to my mom that got rushed under the umbrella,
because quote, that's the way we do it. I asked my mom
during Mass one day, why do we pray to Jesus? Mom? A
couple of years later, I asked, why do we call that man father
a father? Excuse me? This Bible says we shouldn't call any man father
except our father in Heaven. Same answer to both, because that's what we
do, Junior. I would overhear my dad from time to time mentioning JFK's
covered up murder and the moon landing, the Illuminati, the Jesuits, and
others. My older brothers were both up to conspiracies as well, and I
gained ten bits here and there from them, but one of them being in
the Air Force and the other a roving wander of sorts. Those times were
few. Then on Thursday, November the ninth, nineteen eighty nine, some
things begin to come into focus. Now, if you look at that date,
you'll remember it, I'm certain and likely what you were doing that night
and when you hurt. I remember sitting with my dad on the couch watching
the news that evening. My pops was a factory worker Korea Vietnam era US
Army VET. He was an MP, green Beret and artillery sergeant. He
was usually a pretty scary cat, but that night I actually did something odd.
I listened to him. He said, I want you to watch this
with me, and he motions to the TV. I asked him why it's
news, Dad, I don't care about the news. He says the obvious.
This is historical. The Berlin Wall is down and the Cold War is
over. But it was his next statement that I credit with turning my life
on its ear. He said to me, tonight, they're going to give
you something new to be afraid of. As a child, nuclear war and
monsters were my greatest fear. I knew fear intimately, and that really got
my attention. My dad died in February of two thousand and one. Of
course, like so many from our day, I had a tumultuous relationship with
him, constant disagreements, bickering, full tilt, verbal assaults, not to
mention physical abuse, which I have forgiven him for through my relationship with Jesus
and his father, but daily, George, I wish I could talk to
him again. Sure, I wish he could have met meet my three kids
who were eighteen, fifteen, and thirteen and who were all just like him.
But selfishly, I would love a chance to scour his brain for more
of this kind of stuff. He was not a theorist. He knew his
stuff. He saw stuff, and I wish this version of me could have
known him so we could have talked about this stuff. Anyway. He was
absolutely correct, almost as if on cue. Tom Brokeall says in the very
next segment, quote scientists confirm that should I say, he says in parentheses.
You're remembering his voice, aren't you? Tom Brokeall, NBC News Brokecall
says in the very next segment that the planet is dangerously warming or something similar
to that, and I was introduced to the real truth that evening, and
that truth is they want us scared. Global warming was from that point on
front page above the fold news and I saw my dad right. He was
not this crazed monster that I had imagined him to be. He might be
on to something, I recall thinking, and was he ever? About a
month later, I delved into the world of crime for the first and last
time. I stole a matchbox car from the local department store store excuse me.
My friend and I were dared to do so by an older kid,
and we got caught. My dad has just gotten home from the town Christmas
parade and the store detective called him up. He came back to get me,
still with his cold thirty eight ACP on his hip and in uniform,
and I thought he was going to kill me, but once again he surprised
me. He said, you'll punish yourself worse for this than I could ever
do, and he didn't touch me. I thought, hmm, something's different.
Years later, I recalled a day in that month, November December of
nineteen eighty nine, where I saw my dad early one morning, kneeling before
the television while Billy Graham prayed, and I firmly believed my pops to have
been born again in that time frame. The following year, my Pops had
several strokes and a couple heart attacks. My high school and college years were
spent taking care of him, or at least helping to I viewed that time
fondly today, but the strokes had taken much of him away. He was
verbal till the end, but very confused, so we probably couldn't have shared
on this or any topic. I got angry at God through all of it,
and it culminated eventually in shaking my fist at him in the rain at
my pop's viewing and funeral and challenging him to a fistfight. Well, we
fought, and he won. I missed around and had eight or nine years
of anger and atheism after that, But a big jump here. I was
saved about a decade later, and began attending a non denominational church in twenty
eleven and became a youth pastor there about five years after that. I'm seven
years into my pastor at this point. During COVID, we moved church to
our fifteen acre field just down the road. From my building. We called
it Tailgate Church. But through the last three and a half years, I've
had some instances to delve into some rabbit holes flatter at being one of them.
I was already a doubter about nine to eleven, the moon landing and
several other big ones, but Flattereth speaks to me in a different way.
If they can lead us away from God, from Jesus, our foundations,
then they got us, you know, at least in their eyes. I
presently consider myself a man without a country, or a youth pastor without a
youth group. I hate ridding these things because I get so many of them.
COVID essentially destroyed our youth group. We used to have seventeen kids every
Sunday evening, but after the rest of society opened back up, we're down
to just a few, and those are sporadic. I've taken on a few
other responsibilities at church to justify my position, as I've been worried about being
let go and having my position is off. I've taken on Wednesday night Bible
study, and I'm consistently finding myself portraying a greeter. At outdoor services.
I'm often led prayer at both the outdoor and indoor services. That has afforded
me some time to dig into God's word regarding flat Earth, and wow,
it's been completely enlightening. I spend my days as a school counselor and a
podcast listener on my commute anyway, That's where I come from and where I
was introduced to all things conspiratorial. Most of it comes from my dad.
But recently discussions between my wife and myself, as well as a couple of
dear friends at the church, have urged me to move forward. Actually,
my wife turned me onto your flat Earth files a couple of weeks ago,
so big upst her. I'm claustrophobic after five and a half years working for
the Federal Bureau of Prisons and Education. So these rabbit holes are spooky sometimes,
but mostly the good kind of spooky. Now to my question and a
couple thoughts on it, the tides have been something of a hard sell on
my mind. The only hard part for me to get biblical clarity on really
what are your thoughts on them? I'm wondering if the real science behind the
tides might involve several different things, namely the thermal properties of water moving from
warmer to cold, which is he says, Brownian movement differences in salinity and
freshness, which also causes movement, combined with the similar movements of the sun
warmed air over the Earth's surface, he says. Also on episode twenty five,
in your interview with Joe, you both mentioned the game that contained the
switch. Yeah, that was the app Plague Incorporated. My nephew and I
were pretty at adept at it, and that's it. I completely appreciate you,
sir, and hope to continue to be able to listen to your broadcast
regularly. I'm pulling in about two episodes per day and should be caught up
within this year. I sincerely look forward listening to every single workday. Please
keep it up. We thank you kindly for this service and mission that you've
undertaken. I know you're busy. He just I did email him back a
little him. I was going to read this, and he says, I
bid you and your family continued blessings and protection with our Lord's Savior Jesus God
bless you. Bro. Keep up the good fight, little Joe. Thank
you, brother. And that's so much to take away from that. You
know, I lost my dad too, And I wish now that I'm in
a different place in my life because when we're younger, many of us,
right, we know everything, But when you're eighteen nine, eighteen twenty,
what are you trying to tie? Know everything? Please? And of course
me, I had to take the hard route to learn the things. And
it turns out, oh, you were right, dad, But kind of
like the cats in the Cradle song, right, And now you're a place
you want to sit down, and there's nothing worse than you would give anything
to have a conversation with your father and he's not there, you know.
So man, thank you so much for sharing your story. And it's course
the tides. I do believe that it has to do again, fresh water
doesn't really have tides minor, very minor, and some of the big big
ones. But it's it's obviously I think of the salinity, and with the
sun and the moon being positive negative, I think it has something to do
with that, you know, are there different types? Again, I'd like
to take a week and shut everything down and just do a few experiments,
try to work things out to get it, you know. But at the
same time said this many times with the firmament and everything else. There's things
we're just not going to know. Unfortunately, they lied to us about everything,
so it is very hard to discern the truth. I only have about
ten minutes left, so I need to get to the rest of these messages
the next one. Hello George. I came to the Flat Earth sometime around
twenty fifteen twenty sixteen. I have a degree in computer science and have been
a software engineer for twenty years out. I used to dabble in two D
and three D game creation as a hobby when I was young, but I've
only worked on one project professionally that consisted of graphics programming. It was a
long time ago, and it was not for a game. I've had ideas
over the years for different projects related to Flat Earth, but never found the
time. A few months ago, I decided to create a side by side
comparison of views on the flat surface versus a spherical surface. I thought this
would be the best way to see the difference between too, if any.
I wanted it to be available for others to view as well, so I
created a website. It uses a well known rendering engine that is built for
the web, Babylon Dot JS. I have also made the demos available with
code and an online playground provided by BABYLONJS. This allows other people to experiment
and to know that he's not faking any part of it. So again,
the website is www dot show me Thecurve dot Earth. I say, again,
show me thecurve dot Earth, and again I will put that in the
show notes for you to click on to go check out as well. It
is a very basic, but it's enough for me to confirm that we are
not on a bump. What we see on the spherical view is nothing like
the long distant shots that we see people from like Jtolin, I listened to
your podcast occasionally on a regular basis. I go through phases where I listen
to podcasts on almost a daily basis, and then I don't listen to them
for a while or so. Again, he says, feel free to share
the information I have done, so go check it out, let me know
what you think, and I will pass the information on to him, and
goes on to say that if you think it has any value or any new
ideas or suggestions, please let us know and I will definitely get in touch
with the author. Again is show me the curve dodth God bless you,
and thanks for taking the time to do this right. It's cool that flat
earthers are doing these kind of things to say. See here's an example,
so go check that out, all right. The next is from Rebecca.
Hello George, as I'm being every day more blessed with more truth, I
wanted to mention again how grateful I am for your ministry. The Flat Earth
files are truly a blessing. I've reached episode eighty and every piece of knowledge
that you drop were the guest drops. I feel like I'm growing spiritually.
I go and investigate everything myself, as I never take someone's word for the
final truth. No offense there, but that's me, amen. That is
the way you should do it. Listen to everyone, even the people that
we think that are quote unquote controlled. You should listen to them because they
use those people as tools of disclosure. So I've never told anyone not to
listen to someone. That should be your first red flag if somebody says that.
That's why I felt so connected to Michelle from California, to whom I
reached out to, by the way, and I'm so thankful that I could.
Thanks to your podcast. As I heard the episode with Cliff these Days,
it got me more interested in the braz and Cee. I think he
is on to something there, and I'm not going to get too much into
it, but just let you know he will be back on the show in
the near future and you'll have quite the announcement for you all. It's very
exciting, but I want to let him him make that announcement, Goes ought
to say. Also him mentioning that the devil perverts everything yahweh makes and combining
this with space. I was listening to a sermon today and that was it
was mentioned again Matthew twenty two thirteen. Throw him in the outer darkness where
there'll be weeping and gnashing of teeth. I think Cliffs thought connecting space to
this outer darkness sounds right. Sunday two weeks ago was odd. I had
to prepare a birthday party for my oldest I'd started telling him about flat Earth.
I'd tell him that the Bible teaches and a globe and the Big Bang
theory is worldly teaching, and still he wanted me to make the party space
themed. And if that wasn't weird enough or pastor preach this Sunday about space
and planets and Fibonacci, mentioning that Yahweh is not a god of chaos.
You cannot make this stuff up. Mayor of Father, keep his blessing your
podcast, and may many people find their love for our Messiah through you,
Rebecca. And then she goes on to say talk about the numerology. It
says, PS, the numerology on this Israeli conflict is ridiculous. The thirty
three is everywhere and I've noticed that as well. And did you know about
the Israeli bar code? The prefix for Israeli bar codes is seven to nine,
So one more code or coin for your coincidence. Jar. There you
go. I haven't been putting that in lately. I need to fill that
up. So thank you for that, Rebecca. Thank you to all the
voicemails. Thank you to all the emails. I did have a couple articles.
I have to go. I'm already five minutes late, but I wanted
to thank everyone. Obviously I can't read all the emails. Obviously I can't
play all the voicemails. I mean, I could make an episode every day
if I had the time. With the amount of emails at everything that we
get. But I also wanted to thank Elizabeth very much. She had sent
two articles. I don't have the time to read them now, but I
will put them in the show description as well. Make sure check out show
me the Curve dot earth and reach out of course not a globe seven at
gmail dot com if you would like to join her Facebook group. And again,
thank you all who's been a part of the show. I guess two
weeks will be the one the official one year anniversary. I think our very
first episode was November thirtieth, twenty twenty two, and you know, put
out over one hundred and fifteen episodes and in one years that's a lot.
It's almost two a week. We do another podcast and everything else. So
we have worked very hard to bring you alternate content that does not you know.
I hope it makes you think. I hope you enjoy it. Some
things people come on may go against your beliefs, but you should like again,
this would be a better world if everyone just listen to each other.
Then again, make your own decisions and live within your own belief system.
But it's good to hear that people have connected through the podcast. I mean
nothing beats sitting down, having a cup of coffee and a conversation with something
you're very passionate about, and this is something that we are. If you're
listening to this podcast, maybe you're new, maybe you're curious, just trying
to decide for yourself, and that's okay too. But if you are all
in on the flat earth community, thank you for choosing the flat Earth Files,
Thanks for your continued support. And again, the email is the flat
Earthfiles at gmail dot com. The website is the flat Earthfiles dot com.
And what else snail mail? If I still get people like to send letters,
I do too. Doug In what is doug In's a the folks on
YouTube? I mail them stuff a few times, right, It's more personal
and I enjoy that. It's PO Box one zero nine, Goldsborough, Maryland,
two one six three six and every the website, the email address,
and the snail mail address for your letters are all within the show notes and
by the way, at the bottom of the website as well. So there
you go, everybody, have a great rest of your week. We'll see
you Sunday night at eight pm Eastern Time with our next guest. God bless
you all. Keep your head on a swivel. And until the next time
we meet my friends, we will see you. I know it's been a
struggle. I know you hats pain. I fee the time held down all
the way. God, don't you feel more? You smile ain't the same?
I saw well go from you feel like you've lost your way. Don't
give up, No, don't give in, and never this home. Don't
let all the primies. He ain't dune yet, he's gone up playing.
Why it's a right time? Got up? Let me come? Why await
God up? Come? I can see the straight beside you. Child's are
putting up the five. Oh, you're stronger than anything. Yeah, you're
gonna be all right. You're accepting a dead found you beautiful. You're shoving
bride. Yeah, you live and breathe move you can hold your head of
hide. Don't give up. No, don't give in, never lose home.
Don't they go on the primise. It ain't doniets God a clay,
Wat's a wain. Tell the God of me because don't give up. No,
don't give in, never lose home. Don't let call the primis.
Ain't confess worth living. W's a plain. Tell the God baby why's your
place? The god? No ty co oh yeah, what's a break down?
The god TV co oh yeah, got TV cort. Don't give up,
no, don't give in? Never sol do they go of the primis?
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don't give no dog giving, never hold. Don't they go of the primes?
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