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was. Thank you. And with
all that down, we have returning guests

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and friend of the show, someone
that I consider a friend that would probably

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pick up the phone in the middle
of the night so I can bounce ideas

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off of him about remote viewing.
Former US Army Intelligence Security Command and Defense

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Intelligence Agency is top secret psychic spy
Remove your doctor. David Morehouse, Welcome

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back to the show. How's it
going to front? Im? God?

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Good? Good, very sorry to
hear about your father. It's been been

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a very rough process in a long
couple of weeks. But Dave, it's

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been a minute since you've been on
my friend. It's good to see you

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again. How many more TV shows
and documentaries have you been a part of

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in films since we last We did
four last year and then we're getting ready

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to do it another one in Phoenix, and then I'm going to be filming

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a couple of filming a couple of
introductory classes, but those won't be TV

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shows, but those will just be
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of a lot of prep work and
a lot of stuff going on right now.

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Things are busy. Yeah, you're
always busy. You're always doing something.

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David is good to see you,
Sandra, thanks so much, she

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said for your seven ninety nine Supertrent
Morning and condolences to you and your family.

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Thank you very much, Sandra your
kindness and support of the show.

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Really appreciate it. I've been hearing
a lot of people talk about remote viewing

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recently and like it's like they just
now have heard about it. You know,

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how like things get recycled and regurgitated
back to people like it's it's like

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it's something new, which is very
interesting to me, you know, the

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recycling of old information into new information, which the community loves to do.

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And definitely the popular stuff now where
people always get this stuff confused, which

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I think is partially in fault to
Russell Targ's Third Eye Spies documentary that this

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was all the CIA, right,
that it was the CIA that was running

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these remote viewing programs. I try
and correct these people as uh as much

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as I can, but it seems
to just kind of fall on that years.

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Like I've seen several people over the
last like two months, like the

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CIA is remote viewing program. This
is all the information about the CIA's remote

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viewing program, Like the CIA never
had a remote viewing program. Well,

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the CIA had a contract for the
development of a determination as to whether or

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not, like it was a it
was a soul source contract. And I

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get sick and tired of reading all
the various interpretations of this freaking contract.

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I mean, it just it gives
me the point where I could, you

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know, I'm as well stick my
finger down my throat. I swear it's

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like for Pete's sake, and they
get a different one. It's one of

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these reasons why I just just laugh
at that. You every guy that steps

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up that was part of the program, ol Kevri, Joe mcmonaicael pulls gip

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that water, Linda yu canon me. Anybody who's still breathing that was part

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of that program. If you ask
them what their version of that program was,

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it's all different. Everybody's got a
different story about what it was.

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And if you go to Target and
put off mostly targ these days, and

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tried to drill down to you know, what his version of the program was,

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it's a version of the program that
is quite frankly, just erroneous from

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the start. And the reason why
is this. These guys came out of

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Stanford University and formed an independent research
organization to go after government contracts in particular

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research areas which a lot of you
know, places do that I mean that's

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you know, pair of labs.
It's right, these things come out and

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they just create themselves there because there's
a lot of money in government research and

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so yeah, there were several research
facilities for sor right, sure, sure

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there were. But what happened was
I mean, you've had SAIC has been

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around, pair of labs and a
whole bunch of others. But the thing

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that we're talking about and staying with
the remote viewing story was quite simply that

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the government found out. And how
the government found out is still a matter

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of question, which is why anybody
that turns around starts trying to say that,

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oh, it came from this source
or that source or that source.

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The truth of it is, the
big rumor is that it came in from

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came in from human intelligence sources.
That means that somebody in the Soviet Union

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or somebody in Russia, I mean
in China came back and said through their

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case officers that the Chinese and or
the Soviets both maybe were you know,

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looking for natural gifted psychics and they
were going to study, studied it and

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explore and research the paranormal to see
if they could find a way in which

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to use these people as an intelligence
collection asset within their intelligence services. And

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when the truth of it is,
nobody has any record of that human intelligence

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source, whoever that might have been. There have been some rumors tossed around

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out there by a female historian,
writer Richardson. I think Annie Richardson,

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I think wrote a book called Come
to Me in a Moment. I apologize

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for not remembering it. She is
a runner up for a Pulitzer Prize,

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smart lady. But she's quoting this
German trove of Nazi historical records which have

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been attached to this thing called the
Nazi Cult Bureau, which was actually not

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the Nazi Cult Bureau. The Nazis
were actually very skittish of the occult,

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despite all of the popular rumor around
that they were not in favor of it.

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And this particular trove of of it's
a series of letters that were written

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and I've read them, I mean
the interpretations of them, and did some

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synopsies on them for another show that
asked me directly that question. And this

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writer says that the promulgating document that
started the US, Soviet and Chinese psychic

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War came from this stock of documents. Well, it didn't. It didn't

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come from there. Now, maybe
she's somebody interpreted one for her that has

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not yet been interpreted. But the
stack of letters that were found from a

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US intelligence officer that's how they found
them, comes in four categories. One

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is about just simply their tracing of
their area and lineage and heritage in Norway.

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They're called the Norway Letters. Then
there's another set of the letters which

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has to do with just chasing outside
in Norway and into Europe proper and even

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into Great Britain looking for their language
that you know, derivatives and sources and

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branches and just their Aryan heritage,
because that was the whole, big,

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huge thing that Hitler was probing Himmler
to try to sort out. Himmler took

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it into the occult, but Hitler
was not part of that and didn't give

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a crap about that stuff. And
I'll tell you more about the evidence of

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that as I circled back to answer
the question for you. So the next

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part of it was a series of
letters that were called they were looking at

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other things in other sources of in
another country, other sources of just the

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lineage of the Aryan heritage. And
then it was actually the third Settle Letters.

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I skipped over it. It dealt
with dowsing dowsing, So it is

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a seriesies of dowsing letters, and
it's talking about the Nazis use through this

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research organization that was headed by Himmler, not directly under the responsibility of Hitler,

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and there's no evidence that Hitler even
really knew much about it, or

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if he knew anything at all about
it. They were dealing with dowsing,

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dowsing, rods, pendulums, and
some to some degree, astrology, and

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what they were doing was just practicing
with it, trying to perfect it,

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keeping notes about it, writing about
it. Guys were publishing on it.

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But here's the deal is that while
this organization that had relatively little to any

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power whatsoever, even though it came
under Himmler, was under constant attack by

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the secret police and the state police
and by you know, this this governming

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organization for you know, for the
Durabils of the people and the you know,

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and the propaganda, et cetera,
et cetera. And they were out

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there they were any occult evidence or
people studying or practicing occult or doing anything

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that was a cult related. The
secret police and state police were out arresting

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them and putting him in prison.
You had these guys not letters from Himmler.

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You had the guys that worked under
Himmler. Two civilians basically turned into

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you know, some sort of SSS
officer as a civilian, who are then

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turning around and trying to get these
people extricated from prison. They're trying to

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get them out of prison before they're
there, before they're executed, or that

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they're put to work in hard labor, sent to a camp, all of

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their work confiscated and not being allowed
back into Himmler's hands or anybody else.

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Kind of paints the picture for you
for what was going on there when there's

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all this conspiracy in hoopla and bullshit
going around about the fact that the Nazis

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were all involved in the occult.
It's a good way to mystify it,

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though I make it all mystical.
Course, it's a really good but cult

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called Occultism in Nazism or the occult
in Nazism. And if you read that

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book, you can just search by
the title something Parallel that you'll see the

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guy. It's been around for a
long time. It is probably the most

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definitive work if you really want to
read a truthful work about it that really

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goes through it. And what they
basically say about this is it's all been

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under researched and all been overstated and
sensationalized. This whole Nazi and the occult

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parallel from movies to you freaking name
it, they were, it's all been

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sensationalized. Anyway. This writer says
that this is where the promulgating documents came

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from. Well, I've read them. I didn't find anything that had to

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do with dowsing, dowsing rods,
astrology, and pendulum work that had anything

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to do with psychic warfare or anything
else. So back to seventy nineteen seventy,

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there's an alleged that human intelligence sources
indicated this to the CIA. The

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CIA then turned around and asked are
we doing anything like this the director of

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the CIA, to which the response
from Gottlieb and others was no. So

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they turned around and they let a
contract. They will put out a request

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for proposals, one assumes, and
they have to do that under federal contracting.

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I know that because I am one. So people put back a response

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to that from you name it,
Saiic Pair Labs, whoever else was out

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there. They all said, yeah, we would like to get a piece

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of this contract, and here's how
we would go about this. What For

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whatever reason, the contract was sole
sourced to SRI International and Palo Alto headed

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up by Target put off at the
time. Now the contract was on again

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off. In a soul Source content
track typically goes for one base year followed

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by up to five option year,
so a six years in a contract.

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I don't even think that the first
contract soul Source lasted that long. And

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then it was turned over to something
else, funded through another avenue, back

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and forth, back and forth.
Now you have to understand that the agency

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itself could have been doing that,
like pulling the contract, you know,

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pushing it around from the right flank
by some other name, some other funding

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avenue, just to keep it to
the point that people didn't know actually what

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was going on. I would not
put them that past them, in fact,

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I think that would probably be a
logical explanation for that. But funding

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came, it went, it came, it went again, It came from

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other places. Bottom line is they
were given at SRI and it was it

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was a contract that was wrought with
a bunch of deliverables, but having read

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it many times and being a contract
and tell you that it was, I

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could distill it down to three primary
deliverables. First one is, can you

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prove scientifically beyond a doubt that there
is a human ability to see something distant

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in space time in other words,
esp or a psychic ability clairvoyance if you

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want to look at a more appropriate
term, clairvoyant clare, audient clare,

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sentient clairvoyance. Okay? Is that
provable? And that was their first deliverable,

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which was to come back and say, to the chagrin of every skeptic

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in the world, they came back
and said, Yep, it's there and

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it's real, and we've proved it
and we believe our research. And the

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CIA then turned around and said okay
and put in two auditing research agencies to

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go check out their work, to
say is their science good, is their

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data analysis and their summaries good?
Or are their flaws there that we need

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to know about and it means that
we can't trust their work. Those two

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research agencies did their work. There
were some small findings that just that of

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corrective procedures, which I would have
expected because if you're the one that has

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the contract and the other two research
agencies didn't get the contract, they put

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the proposal in for it, they're
going to try to find something something wrong

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with it. Yeah, of course, So then what they found were minor

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and correct a chief actions were taken
or not taken, as the case may

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be. But their second deliverable in
the contract was can you tell us who

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is capable of doing this so we
can go find them and mind them like

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the Soviet is doing and like the
Chinese are doing out of their populations.

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We need to know what we need
to be looking for so we can go

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get them, recruit them, bring
them in, train them, and use

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use them. Since you've proven that
it is a viable capability, this clairvoyance.

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Yeah, that's what the Project Syndicate
document was all about, and by

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SRI in seventy three was testing to
see if it was a viable source of

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information and if it can be used
for intelligence and data collection. But I

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guess my point here is that just
because the CIA funded a program doesn't mean

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that the CIA ran a program.
That's what people that's where people are getting

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confused. It is, but the
CIA has a big attachment to the program,

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which is why people can't let go
of that. The CIA started this,

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the CIA got it going for the
reasons I so indicated. The third

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point, the third deliverable, was
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Meaning? Well, the answer to
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was actually verbally reported by targ many
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said, our research has indicated that
we have found that this is an ability

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unique to no one. It is
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being has this ability, and all
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to be willing to explore it openly
without prejudice, and then you know they

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can see this unfold for them as
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can you replicate this? Meaning can
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that they failed miserably on repeatedly because
these guys are physicists, mathematicians, psychologists,

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psychiatrists, right, they haven't got
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military training program, and therefore they
failed miserably. And the military was waiting

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for this, and they failed,
and they failed because they're not educators,

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they are scientists, they are recent
they design research programs. They capture data

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and analyze and log and report on
their data findings. This is what these

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guys do. They don't train soldiers
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and they also work. Because they
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train other people to be capable of
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at the DIA or the CIA,
or wherever they might have worked. Now,

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I spoke with Ingosquan's Ingo Swan specifically
about what happened, and he tried

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very hard to get Russell Targe and
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his stages. His Coordinateroomo viewing training
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times, taught many people to do
this reference in Natural esp Is book and

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in other books that he wrote in
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guys to listen to him and do
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do it. And albeit he was
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this stuff, I so testified to
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he wanted to take a hammer to
Russell Tard's head, and he meant that

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figuratively, saying he's such a hardhead, and he won't listen to what I'm

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trying to tell him to do.
That I just, you know, wanted

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to beat him for it, because
it was worthless INGOs Swan then was given

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the mission to train US military intelligence
personnel, starting with folks like mcmonacle,

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Paul Smith, Lynn Buchanan, Mel
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know, et cetera, et cetera. I came in way down the road

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from these people, and I was
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a special Operations you know, Infantry
company commander. I commanded an airborne rifle

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company, airborne rifle platoon, commanded
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Battalion later at Airborne Battalion. That's
what kind of guy I was. I

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was not one of those guys.
I was not like them. I wasn't

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wired the same way. I didn't
think the same way. I didn't plan

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to be there longer than a three
year tour, and I was out of

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there to go back to be with
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College. None of that was in
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those guys stayed there well over a
decade. They might have left for a

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small two year turnaround tour somewhere and
then come back again, but they were

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there forever. Now was the CIA
in charge of the Inscom unit? Absolutely

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not. Did they have input to
it? I mean did they send message

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traffic and you know, stay connected
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did they run the program? No? They were not telling a two star

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and a three star Army general meaning
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Staff for Intelligence and Stubblebind who was
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They didn't tell them what to do
that does that lash up doesn't work?

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You know, that's nowhere in the
inventory where generals are being told by

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the CIA what to do that doesn't
work. It isn't there. They may

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be sitting in the same conference room, and they may you know, in

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a boardroom like in you know the
Kennedy bea pigs or in the Kennedy you

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know Cuban missile crisis where you've seen
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Certainly those four stars are sitting in
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Chiefs and the Joint Chiefs, not
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four stars that are over these different
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chief of Staff of the Navy,
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Right, that's the only lash up
that's there with the where the agency ever

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has influence. They sit in the
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them, and they make their comments
on the intelligence situation, and then others

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make decisions about what's going to be
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picture is. But nothing CIA is
not in charge of general officers. Yeah,

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just really pisses me off hearing these
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and they get everything wrong, even
some of the people that were in the

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programs, and they have absolutely no
idea what they're talking about, but speak

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like it's all facts. I mean, I've tried my best to clear up

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a lot of the common misconceptions about
the program, you know, bringing yourself

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on and others on that and literally
reading through every single document that I could

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find and get my hands on,
but again it seems to just kind of

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fall by the wayside. But here's
one that we can try and clear up

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really quickly, and we've already kind
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of connected. So one of the
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from the doubters of remote viewing,
the people that don't believe that it's possible,

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that they don't believe in any kind
of psychic abilities, say that remote

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viewing has never been scientifically proven.
What's your response to that, David,

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Well, that's bullshit. Since I
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That's again, that's that I'm gonna. I'm gonna the very nice definition of

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somebody it speaks like that is is
somebody that is ignorant of actual scientific fact.

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Uh. And then if you keep
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life, then you can be qualified
as just fucking stupid. So if you

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want to be called stupid, then
just keep talking like that. It was

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absolutely proven by the CIA, which
was, as I said in my comments,

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the reason why everybody who does believe
in this should be looking at this

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and being very grateful for the work
done during that time and the proof given.

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I mean, the results of their
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published in the I Triple E in
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that's the Institute for electrical and electronics
engineers. That's like being published in the

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Journal of the American Medicine Association.
If you're an engineer, it's published there,

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and it wasn't ripped apart by people
because people were looking at it in

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the seventies and reading it for what
it was. It has some disinformation in

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it that targets the Soviet and targets
China, but that's to be expected.

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But it's still you see the list
of the scientists that were involved in this,

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that published on this. So to
have somebody turn around and say something

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like that, then I just I
just love to laugh at them, I

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mean right smack in their face,
because that's just somebody that's parroting what some

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parent, some here, or what
some priest or what or what some you

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know, scientists who also knows nothing
about it might turn around and say,

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because that doesn't come from direct experiments
or direct research or you know, reading

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and research on their part to determine
the truth of the issue, it just

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ends up them being the individual that
parrots that. What you know, two

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percent of the population say, which
is there's nothing beyond the physical. It's

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a big popular position to aspire to
nowadays, to be a non believer of

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anything other than a believer of bullshit
and conspiracy. So yeah, it's definitely

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say that it's been scientifically proven.
I mean that was the whole goal of

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the funding of the research ATSR I
was to figure out how scientifically determined if

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remove viewing psycho energetic phenomenon was real. And they ran a series of tests

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and that's how they got the coordinator
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SRI in nineteen seven, which is
in the beginning, was a blind test

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to determine to make sure if the
remove you were test subjects at us all

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right, weren't getting the information in
any other ways like every scientific protocol used

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in the you know, and the
proper layout of the experiment, et cetera,

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and the analysis of the data.
And people would know this stuff if

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they read the documents, right,
if they read the documents, But they're

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lazy and they just don't want to
read it. Like I said, you

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know, some some uh you know, professor of nothing somewhere in high school

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probably said, you know that there's
nothing to this stuff, it's crap,

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or you know, they stepped up
in church and asked the question, and

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somebody said, well, you know
that's not godlikes so no, human beings

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don't have that ability. Only God
has that ability. And then they walk

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away now going yeah, there's nothing
to this. I mean, there's no,

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there's nothing to this human ability.
But hey, let's be honest.

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Look around at the rise of the
con out there that claims psychic ability and

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all this other stuff. I mean, they're on every street corner at this

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particular point in time. You know, if you're one of these people who

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got built out of the one eight
hundred psychic cotline or a nine hundred psychic

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cotline, you know, spent three
thousand dollars in a month trying to figure

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out whether your dog was still alive
after it had died, you might,

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you know, be in trouble with
something like that, but are pissed off

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about it. And I understand that
there's just been so much you know,

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bs that accompanies all of this,
and it's not talked about in a scientific

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process. It just becomes these free
for alls. Right, they loop it

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right in there with ayahuasca and you
know, psilocybin and exactly, and it's

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like no, no, no,
no, no, that's not the same

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thing. And no, it's not
the same thing as trans medium work.

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And no, it's not the same
thing as astro projection, and no,

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it's not the same thing as being
a shaman. And no, it's not

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the same thing any of the other
stuff. It is a militarily it's a

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military dogma, a protocol. It
is a protocol for the extraction of information

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from the unconscious mind. And the
unconscious mind is tied into something that you

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might want to call something like the
holographic matrix field or the collective unconscious or

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the akasher character. I don't care
what you want to call it, but

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it is akin to that. It's
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Okay, but that's a little more
complicated to explain, you know,

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in two minutes. So but if
you are truly interested in that, look

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it up and don't Google it for
crying out loud, you know, for

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he's sake, you know, if
you've got to really researching something, get

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the hell off Google. Oh no, okay, use Google, Google scholar,

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okay, because at least that'll then
take you to peer reviewed research in

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the area that you're asking for,
and then you can dig down deep into

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that, or go to the library, you know, and have them look

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up these research documents for you,
get the titles, give them to them,

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let them pull out peer reviewed research. But I'll be willing to bet

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you probably most of people don't know
how to read that, but that's okay.

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Keep at it. Ask some questions
of other people who do know how

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to read it, and you can
learn how to read it. It's a

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difficult thing to do. Most of
the physicians I know don't know how to

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read pay reviewed research, but that's
okay. You know, they're still good

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at what they do. So yeah, I think some of it, you

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know, with people saying, oh, well, you know, remote viewing

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has never been scientifically studied, I
think that they're throwing the baby out with

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the bathwater. Whenever the CIA took
over the program in ninety five and then

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shut it down basically saying we've talked
about it several times on the show before,

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you know, saying that there wasn't
any actionable data that came out of

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the remove viewing program. And I
think they're taking that statement and obviously not

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reading all of the documents that prove
that remote viewing is one real and is

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a actual ability that everyone has the
capability to do. And I think that

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they're just throwing it, They're just
dowing the whole thing out. Yeah,

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just acting in ignorance, ignorance.
And then how are also, too,

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Dave, How are we supposed to
get the public familiar with these kinds of

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topics when it comes to removing I
mean, it can be really anything.

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It can be UFOs, it can
be extraterrestrials, which I don't believe that

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they actually exist, but that's a
whole other thing. How are we supposed

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to get the public familiar with what
has been classified as woo woo topics when

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the community itself is really at odds
with each other and there's so much miss

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and disinformation about these programs out there. I think that, you know,

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it's a very good question, writer, and it has to be answered I

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think pretty simply, which is,
we're all endowed with this really wonderful thing

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called free agency, which means that
we have the ability to ask questions and

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then act upon the answers that we're
given or you know, based on you

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know, what we see to be
truth. So if you want to find

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things out, then stop, you
know, stop getting your news on social

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media, which puts you again into
the you know, that puts you into

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the ignorance on steroids category. And
then stop, you know, stop googling

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for your answers or going to Quora
or going to read it or some other

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place. No offense to people that
do, but I'm just telling you,

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if you really want to know something
and know the truth about something, then

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roll up your sleeves. Your intelligent
human beings or you're not, but most

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of you are intelligent human beings.
Go search and rese search and read,

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you know, funded peer reviewed studies
that have a peer reviewed means that somebody

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actually looks at it. It's in
a colleague to those who have done the

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work, or maybe a competitor to
those who have done the work, and

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they can pick apart the science if
they choose to. But it's a process

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of reading and following and following and
reading, and it may take you,

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you know, six hours to get
the answer to your question of intensive reading

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and researching to get to it.
Or you know, you can you can

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check what's happening on X and go
with it from there, you know,

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or or some other or TikTok may
have your answer for you or something.

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But if you're not getting my sarcasm
byasm, is that the whole what's happened

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to two generations of young people now
is they have decided that that's where truth

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lies, and so you know,
they'll go to that. They'll seek,

407
00:33:55.480 --> 00:34:00.519
you know, whatever common ground is
there and whatever process by which people are

408
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:06.640
dressing and you know, lashing out
at others and calling people names and doing

409
00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:09.199
all the other things. They just
you know, they revel and live in

410
00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:14.039
that area. They've lived there for
six, eight, ten, twelve hours

411
00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:16.480
a day, and when they come
up for air, when people are speaking

412
00:34:17.039 --> 00:34:22.760
or trying to speak to them intelligently
and trying to inspire and encourage them to

413
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:29.920
use their frickin mind and go find
real answers to things and stop making your

414
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:35.360
life be an endless process of thumb
work on these ridiculous platforms that have been

415
00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:40.840
around since what nineteen seventy eight.
Now there's a direct correlation in everything shitty

416
00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:46.119
in our lives to the advent of
social media. And there again, I'm

417
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:49.599
not going to say here and give
you all of it. I'm just going

418
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:53.360
to tell you if you want to
know the rise and the murder rate and

419
00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:58.760
that there is, in fact,
multiple studies that have been done, including

420
00:34:58.960 --> 00:35:05.039
those one by per you research over
time, talking about the direct rise in

421
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:13.400
crime and cyber crime and murder and
human trafficking right to the advent of social

422
00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:15.679
media, that the more there is
of it, the more you use it,

423
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:22.280
that the greater the arc of correlation
is between those platforms and all the

424
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:28.159
bad things that are going on in
our lives. Okay, that's all I'm

425
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:30.360
gonna say about it. If you
want to know about it, I already

426
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:34.559
gave you one of the research.
Go look up the Pew research. Just

427
00:35:34.679 --> 00:35:37.599
read that one, and then look
at their references, and then look at

428
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:40.079
the next one and the next one
and the next one, and get smart

429
00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:46.039
on it, Okay, and understand
how derogatory it is and it is getting

430
00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:52.960
has become and is just getting bigger. You're all worried about the wrong things

431
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:57.920
in this life, all of you. Well. Also, research doesn't mean

432
00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:06.480
reinforce your preconceived notions and bias.
No it doesn't. No, it does

433
00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:09.440
not exactly so, which is very
excellent point, which is why when I

434
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:15.840
say look at peer reviewed research,
it means you're stepping into something based on

435
00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:20.559
the title that it says, it
is addressing and you won't know and go

436
00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:24.960
pass the abstract, okay, read
what they have done and how they did

437
00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:29.239
it, and what their outcomes were, and get all the way to the

438
00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:34.480
point of their conclusions, and then
start to, you know, make some

439
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:37.840
notes in your head or on paper. And I will tell you what a

440
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:42.239
general once told me after I stepped
right in it and said the stupidest thing

441
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:45.559
that I could say, and I
was stupid. I made a comment about

442
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:50.400
something in the Vietnam War to this
general, he was a three star general

443
00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:53.440
on the way to the fourth fourth
star. He looked right over at me

444
00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:58.320
and he said, you are the
most unqualified person to open your mouth about

445
00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:01.000
something like that, to which I
then felt about as big as a penny

446
00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:05.400
stands call right. And then the
guy sends to me, he goes,

447
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:09.239
look, you're not stupid, but
you're flapping your app about something you don't

448
00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:14.480
know anything about. And he was
absolutely right. I probably read two books

449
00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:19.000
if that on the point. The
thing that I was drawing is a point

450
00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:25.639
of negativity towards a unit in Vietnam, an American unit in a battle.

451
00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:30.360
And what he said to me was, here's my advice to you, if

452
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:35.440
you want to progress in this profession
and speak like you just spoke, you

453
00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:39.960
read ten books on either side of
the argument, and we read ten books

454
00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:45.159
on either side of the argument,
then you can formulate or are qualified to

455
00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:51.480
formulate an opinion as to which you
support. But if you're really intelligent,

456
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:57.079
you'll be able to find the highlights
and the good points in both arguments,

457
00:37:57.320 --> 00:38:00.199
as well as the flaws in both
arguments. Then you know what the hell

458
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:06.280
you're talking about. But until that
happens, you're just you're just passing hearsay

459
00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:10.679
an opinion, just like everybody else. Then that is what I meant by

460
00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:19.119
reading other things that doesn't confirm your
preconceived notions and your biases already. Right,

461
00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:22.079
you want to read the other side
of the aisle. You want to

462
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:24.960
read what they're talking about as well, so then you can formulate your own

463
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:29.920
opinion properly. You know both sides
of the story, then you have all

464
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:32.960
the information. When you have all
the information, you can make educated decisions

465
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:37.920
even when it hurts, meaning even
when you disagree with it. And it's

466
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:40.920
really one of the harder things for
you to read. You know, this

467
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:45.360
does not draw a direct parallel to
what we're talking about. But back to

468
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:49.119
the Vietnam thing. If you're reading
something on both sides of the argument,

469
00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:52.800
you're reading critics of what the unit
was or why the battle happened, or

470
00:38:53.440 --> 00:39:00.880
of the decisions made by American commanders, and then the decisions made by Vietnamese

471
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:05.719
commanders, North Vietnamese commanders or viet
Cong commanders, all those kinds of things,

472
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:08.679
and all the political wranglings from both
South and North Vietnam, et cetera,

473
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:13.679
of what was going on, and
you're reading it all and a lot

474
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:15.159
of it. If you particularly,
if you feel like you stand on one

475
00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:20.000
side of the argument or another,
is difficult to read and you have to

476
00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:25.760
really surrender to You have to surrender
this requirement within yourself to be right.

477
00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:30.079
It's a difficult thing to do,
but if you can master that, even

478
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:32.960
in any way, shape or form, you'll get along a lot better with

479
00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:38.440
other humans. You'll get along better
in relationships with other people, because if

480
00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:43.840
you give up the requirement to be
right, that's really the only time you

481
00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:49.159
know that love and understanding and intellect
and diplomacy can prevail. When you give

482
00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:52.039
up that requirement to be right.
I'm certainly not perfect of that, and

483
00:39:52.119 --> 00:39:57.360
I certainly cannot tell you I've mastered
that, but it has certainly been a

484
00:39:57.480 --> 00:40:00.440
rule of life that I've carried with
me, you know, just behind my

485
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:06.800
eyes for you know, fifty five
years of my life. Anyway, Well,

486
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:12.840
that was a very profound segment of
the conversation. I hope people really

487
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:19.000
dial in on that section. But
and here says, uh, how's it

488
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:22.360
going on? Good to see you? She says, why I could do's

489
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:29.840
We'll say that people who peer review
scientific papers are in on it. I've

490
00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:32.079
seen that a lot, right,
see that a lot. They'll be like,

491
00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:36.440
oh, they're a part of the
whole operation. They're they're just uh,

492
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:37.800
you know, it's it's the blame
game, you know, it's to

493
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:45.840
blame somebody and confirm what you're seeing. Yeah, there's a there's a thing

494
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:50.639
that talks about conflict in the course
of miracles, and I always misquote it,

495
00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:52.440
but somebody it's close to me and
was explaining it to me the other

496
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:58.639
day and saying, you know that
it explains in the course of miracles that

497
00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:05.199
if you if you are in constant
conflict with everything, that there's a reason

498
00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:09.199
why you're in this conflict, and
it lays out you know why you're in

499
00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:16.679
conflict. But the most poignant piece
of this was that if you remain in

500
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:24.320
this conflict over long periods of time
and ultimately break through to the point that

501
00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:30.559
what you consider a version of truth
to be made manifest to you shows up.

502
00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:36.800
The question is the really poignant piece
of this is then so what?

503
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:43.639
So what? Then? Now?
What happens? You know? And then

504
00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:47.960
what happens is if you don't understand
what's being told you there, what happens

505
00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:52.920
is you just go for another reason
to be offended. So you'll go find

506
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:55.960
something else to be offended by,
and you'll just be in this constant do

507
00:41:57.119 --> 00:42:01.840
loop of conflict and conflict, self
created conflict, pissed off at everything,

508
00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:07.599
and look around at us right now. There's a reason why I just stopped

509
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:12.920
watching the news, you know,
twenty three years ago, just I just

510
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:16.960
actually twenty four now. I just
stopped because I found every time I looked

511
00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:20.400
at the news, it didn't matter
what channel I was looking at. It

512
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:23.960
didn't it didn't matter between the commercials
and the talking heads, you know,

513
00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:29.960
in the new flavors of lettering and
music and other things that were on there.

514
00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:35.239
It was just not Walter Concrete anymore, you know, or any other

515
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:37.960
or Ted Kopper or anybody. I
mean, so I just was like,

516
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:43.400
I'm done with this, and I
just went chunk and I stopped watching it.

517
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:46.760
And I've never watched it since,
never watched it since. You know

518
00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:52.000
what, I haven't been hit by
a title wave, didn't walk into any

519
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:55.280
wars you know that I didn't know
about. And you know, I just

520
00:42:55.400 --> 00:43:00.480
haven't done I haven't been surprised by
anything. Really, didn't stay into a

521
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:02.880
riot shopping for shoes and going,
oh my god, I'm in a riot.

522
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:06.599
I had watched the news, I
would have known there's a riot,

523
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:09.440
and I didn't know. I should
have watched the news. So I don't

524
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:15.159
do it, and don't. I
don't associate with, or listen to,

525
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:22.480
or read from, or participate in
any of those things that just lessen how

526
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:29.440
I feel about things. I don't
want to be part of something that causes

527
00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:35.159
me to to live in conflict all
the time. Life is too short.

528
00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:38.920
I'm seventy years, I'll be seventy
in September. I mean, you don't

529
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:45.480
look a day over forty. What
are you talking about? But that's kind

530
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:50.280
of what you're we're previously talking about, though, is is social media is

531
00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:53.719
starting to turn into the news now. I mean we have ads running like

532
00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:59.400
all the time. I mean all
the streaming services now have ads. Like

533
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:05.760
you got to pay a premium price
to get streaming services without ads, Like

534
00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:08.880
that's like over if you had every
streaming service, you'd probably be paying with

535
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:13.639
that for the ad free version of
the streaming service, like three hundred dollars

536
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:17.000
a month, which is like double
the price of original cable. But they

537
00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:23.519
realized really quickly that the ads were
beneficial and they weren't getting the money that

538
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:29.840
they needed because the streaming services didn't
have ads. So now they've just baked

539
00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:34.320
in all the ads into the streaming
services. It's unbelievable. Amazon just did

540
00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:37.800
it. You used to get Amazon
Prime for free if you had Amazon Prime

541
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:42.280
delivery service. Now that's not the
case. Now anything you watch on Amazon

542
00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:49.320
Prime has ads. Yeah. Yeah, it's there's another thing. Another Pew

543
00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:54.840
research, the study that I read
recently that was just talking about the fact

544
00:44:57.920 --> 00:45:02.360
it was talking about the fact that
Americans under thirty North Americans under thirty years

545
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:07.800
of age meaning Canada as well,
under thirty years of age in a recent

546
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:12.639
Pew Research poll, and their poles
are large. I mean, they don't

547
00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:16.039
do like two thousand people, they
do like four hundred thousand people. So

548
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:22.400
in polling four hundred thousand people or
plus, the research came back and indicated

549
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:28.960
that in North Americans under the age
of thirty, that they believe social media

550
00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:34.280
before they believe any other media outlet. Now I don't doubt that. I

551
00:45:34.400 --> 00:45:37.800
mean, I can't how do you
choose the lesser of both those evils?

552
00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:43.519
But clearly both both kinds of media
now are doing their own thing. And

553
00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:46.159
they're doing it not because they're trying
to inform you. They're doing it because

554
00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:52.280
they're trying to inflame you and inflame
you to keep coming to their site to

555
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:59.360
continue to be inflamed. Because why
because that's what makes money. You know,

556
00:45:59.599 --> 00:46:02.760
it goes from old newspaper adages that
you know, murder sells or and

557
00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:09.000
you know and husband Love's wife does
not sell newspapers, so that doesn't sell

558
00:46:09.079 --> 00:46:13.800
newspapers. So anything they can do
to stir you up and piss you off

559
00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:16.920
and get you riled and again to
keep you in your own conflict, if

560
00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:22.239
you can keep you in conflict,
then they know that you'll keep staying there.

561
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:27.639
You'll keep going there to be fed, to have something this this insatiable

562
00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:32.079
growing human need to be pissed off
and in conflict about something, which is

563
00:46:32.199 --> 00:46:38.159
not new. It's just on steroids
now. Because of the ease with which

564
00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:45.239
you can find things to inflame you
and keep you in conflict. Humans have

565
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:47.360
always found a way to stay in
conflict about something. I mean, if

566
00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:51.960
we didn't, there wouldn't have ever
been a war, right, But we

567
00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:54.800
always have found for millennia a way
to do that. And before we had

568
00:46:55.000 --> 00:47:00.400
organized armies that were doing it,
we had tribes doing it everywhere. Well,

569
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:06.119
not only conflict with other people in
other countries, but a conflict within

570
00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:10.880
your very being in direct conflict with
yourself. And I think that that is

571
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:15.360
a is very important as well,
and that people don't really understand a lot

572
00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:20.760
of this is set up for confusion. It's set up for you not to

573
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:25.920
know what's going on. It's set
up for you to a division is pretty

574
00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:30.719
much, and not only a division
among people, but the division within yourself.

575
00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:38.719
Yeah, I just you know,
I just wish, you know that

576
00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:46.599
the youth of this planet would come
back into some focus and understand that they're

577
00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:52.599
being they're in conflict with all the
wrong things. You know, they're in

578
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:55.760
conflict with all the wrong things.
It's you know, it's like I shared

579
00:47:55.840 --> 00:48:00.760
with you, you know, some
time earlier. The largest growing, the

580
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:07.000
largest industry in the face of the
planet right now outpaces the oil industry and

581
00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:15.239
anything else you can think of,
is human trafficking. Human trafficking. The

582
00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:20.239
US government is easy to say that
there's only twenty seven twenty seven point six

583
00:48:20.360 --> 00:48:25.719
million slaves. Twenty seven point six
million slaves, and that's what they're saying,

584
00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:29.119
is the figure that should be quoted. If you go to Department of

585
00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:31.719
Homeland Seer Security, if you go
to the FBI, if you go to

586
00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:37.440
a Department of Justice, if you
go to the United Nations, it's right

587
00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:43.920
around and there. And the United
Nations keeps it low because the United Nations

588
00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:49.800
is supposed to be the big,
big, overseeing international governing body that's supposed

589
00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:53.840
to be looking out for this kind
of stuff. But you know what we're

590
00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:59.360
really saying, You can go to
the other sources that are reporting it from

591
00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:04.000
a, in my opinion, a
more truthworth perspective, because in my opinion,

592
00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:07.119
they don't have anything to gain or
to lose by putting out that particular

593
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:12.800
figure. However, Department of Homeland
Security to a certain degree does, as

594
00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:17.159
does Department of Justice or the FBI
or someone else, because they have to

595
00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:22.039
answer to that on some level.
If that is indeed the fact, I

596
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:25.199
don't know how you can, in
your mind, as a government agency,

597
00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:30.320
justify twenty seven point six million slaves. I don't understand that. Now,

598
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:36.119
that's just slaves. That's not talking
about human people who are being human human

599
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:44.079
trafficked as human beings for sex,
or for forced labor, or in pedophilia,

600
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:47.440
child sex, all of those things. But now the numbers run upwards

601
00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:53.599
of something of like the unofficial numbers, not accepted by the UN or most

602
00:49:53.639 --> 00:49:59.000
government agencies, but they run upwards
in the neighborhood of somewhere between seventy and

603
00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:06.519
eighty million slaves. That's more slaves
right now, more slaves meaning being forced

604
00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:12.320
to work or have sex or something
else against your will. There are more

605
00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:16.840
slaves right now than there have ever
been in the history of recorded human history

606
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:22.639
on this planet right now. Now, how did we let ourselves get to

607
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:30.559
this point? And the biggest consumer
of that through pornography and prostitution, you

608
00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:38.880
know, child sex, and also
forced labor in various institutions like restaurants.

609
00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:45.559
Maybe your favorite restaurant might have dishwashers
and floor moppers and other things in there

610
00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:49.280
who are there against their will that
have been farmed out. You could go

611
00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:52.960
to the Department of Homeland Security if
you want to get smart on this.

612
00:50:52.559 --> 00:51:00.840
They actually have classes, classes online
classes that teach you how to find traffic

613
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:05.840
humans, how to spot them in
a restaurant or in a real retail store,

614
00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:09.199
retail and in the retail industry.
They teach you how to spot them

615
00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:14.679
and they certify you through about I
don't know, like twelve different courses online

616
00:51:14.760 --> 00:51:16.320
courses for that. You want to
get smart, and you want to look

617
00:51:16.360 --> 00:51:19.880
you want to help, you want
to make try to make a positive difference.

618
00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:23.920
Do that or just go get pissed
off on X and TikTok and you

619
00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:29.039
know, and chase your chase your
self around and around, set your hair

620
00:51:29.119 --> 00:51:34.400
on fire over UAPs or something else. But you're worrying about the wrong kinds

621
00:51:34.440 --> 00:51:42.719
of things. Trying to look up
the statistics right now on the human trafficking,

622
00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:46.480
it's very difficult to find. I
have to lunch a little bit more

623
00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:52.159
more into it. Yeah, so
I can't really I can't really comment on

624
00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:59.679
it because I haven't actually looked it
up. But primary government sources are Department

625
00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:07.159
of the FBI, Apartment of Homeland
Security, Okay, and then the UN

626
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:13.519
is the outside, and then you
can go to the equivalents of those Department

627
00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:19.599
of Justice, FBI and Department of
Homeland Security. You can also get from

628
00:52:20.079 --> 00:52:27.599
the from Immigration Customs from them or
the US Border Patrol. They both of

629
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:35.360
those also have statistics of what they
consider traffic humans that are being brought across

630
00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:37.320
the border and the rates at which
they are being brought across the border.

631
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:45.320
So it's it's pretty unnerving. Yeah, all, I just try to type

632
00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:50.920
it in really quickly. About the
all I'm getting right now is the amount

633
00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:55.840
of people that have been caught or
prosecuted for human trafficking in twenty twenty three,

634
00:52:55.920 --> 00:52:59.280
twenty two. I would have to
type something else in, but I

635
00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:04.639
don't really want to do while we're
having this conversation. But I kind of

636
00:53:04.679 --> 00:53:09.199
wanted to switch gears, not completely
away from the remote viewing thing, but

637
00:53:10.039 --> 00:53:16.599
a little bit more into UFOs and
extraterrestrials. Here for a second in nineteen

638
00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:23.159
forty seven, because nineteen forty seven
a lot of weird stuff happening in nineteen

639
00:53:23.239 --> 00:53:28.960
forty seven. The Cold War started
in nineteen forty seven, all this weird

640
00:53:29.119 --> 00:53:32.880
things happening in nineteen forty seven.
You also have Kenneth Arnold's famous sightings in

641
00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:39.360
nineteen forty seven in Washington State.
You have the Roswell Evan in nineteen forty

642
00:53:39.400 --> 00:53:45.039
seven. You have the National Security
Act of nineteen forty seven, which created

643
00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:50.920
a reorganization of foreign policy and the
military establishments of the government, and the

644
00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:54.440
Air Force was born out of that
National Security Act, along with the CIA

645
00:53:54.639 --> 00:54:00.000
and the DoD ALL came out of
this National Security Act of nineteen forty six,

646
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:05.760
having which I feel really feel like
through the research that I've done,

647
00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:13.440
that nineteen forty seven really feels like
a big turning point for the direction that

648
00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:17.239
the United States was going. And
later the NSA was established, I believe

649
00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:22.280
in nineteen fifty two, and you
have the Washington Flap event of nineteen fifty

650
00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:25.800
two with the UFOs over the White
House. Then you have DARPA and fifty

651
00:54:25.840 --> 00:54:32.639
eight I believe, and that same
year in NASA was formed. I believe

652
00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:39.920
in fifty eight and Thedia in sixty
one, and so on and so on.

653
00:54:40.599 --> 00:54:49.400
But it really feels like the infancy
of a lot of government policy really

654
00:54:49.519 --> 00:54:59.039
came after World War Two in nineteen
forty seven. Did you only address that

655
00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:07.119
or well, just the way that
you think of what was happening after World

656
00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:10.960
War two and how a lot of
these agencies came about after the war and

657
00:55:12.119 --> 00:55:16.480
pretty much in nineteen forty seven,
and then you have the all the events

658
00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:22.960
you have the roswell evange I got
it. December nineteen forty five is when

659
00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:27.039
it began. This a guy by
named the Army. He was the Chairman

660
00:55:27.079 --> 00:55:30.159
of the Joint Chiefs. He was
an Army Air Corps general later a US

661
00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:32.159
Air Force general. His name was
Henry Arnold. He was a four star

662
00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:37.559
general. I worked with a doctor, Theodore von Carmen, and they put

663
00:55:37.639 --> 00:55:44.559
into motion December of nineteen forty five
a written order for a fifty year vision

664
00:55:44.639 --> 00:55:52.519
of strategic intelligence operations in space.
They actually established a US Air Force Scientific

665
00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:58.559
Advisory Board and project ran with Rand
Corporation. And what they did is they

666
00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:04.440
did this because the space War began
in December of nineteen forty five, This

667
00:56:04.599 --> 00:56:08.920
particular general, along with others that
were parts of the Joint Chiefs, and

668
00:56:09.239 --> 00:56:15.559
their underlings in those Joint Chiefs had
gone, you know, pure clause wits

669
00:56:15.639 --> 00:56:20.760
on this and decided rightly so that
the nature of war will never change.

670
00:56:20.840 --> 00:56:23.360
Only the way in which war is
fought and where war it will be fought

671
00:56:23.480 --> 00:56:30.880
will change. And they recognized that
the next dimension of wort warfare that needed

672
00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:37.159
to be looked at very carefully and
prepared for was the dimension of space.

673
00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:40.000
They had no idea about cyber war
at that particular time. For crying,

674
00:56:40.039 --> 00:56:44.840
I allowed to December nineteen forty five, were still flying around piston driven airplanes.

675
00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:47.480
The only people that jed air draft
were the Germans. So you know.

676
00:56:49.519 --> 00:56:59.079
So Eisenhower formed the National Econotics and
Space Act NASA, and he did

677
00:56:59.159 --> 00:57:04.639
that in twenty nine July of nineteen
fifty eight, and he did that ten

678
00:57:04.760 --> 00:57:10.639
months after the Soviet Union launched Sputnik. Okay, so that's when that came

679
00:57:10.679 --> 00:57:16.480
about. Now, NASA was developed
for a different reason than the Space War.

680
00:57:16.639 --> 00:57:22.119
NASA had nothing to do with the
Space War. NASA, if you

681
00:57:22.320 --> 00:57:25.920
read back and look back and or
remember any of those days which I did

682
00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:30.000
because I was young, but young
enough to know things that were going on.

683
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:37.079
It was posed as a discovery and
an exploration and a great humanitarian effort.

684
00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:42.960
That's what NASA was supposed to be. It was not part of the

685
00:57:43.039 --> 00:57:47.360
space war. It was part of
the space race, which got everybody looking

686
00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:52.639
at a space race like, oh
boy, you know, we're all in

687
00:57:52.760 --> 00:57:55.239
this together. It could be the
Soviets or it could be us, but

688
00:57:55.519 --> 00:58:00.280
hey, we're all gonna you know, it's about getting man on the moon

689
00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:05.480
so we can you know, project
discovery and exploration for human beings. That's

690
00:58:05.519 --> 00:58:08.960
why there's a sculpture on the moon. Did you know this? The uh?

691
00:58:09.920 --> 00:58:14.880
Is it a plaque? No,
the plaque is supported and it supports

692
00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:20.719
the structure. The actual sculpture itself
is three inches tall, made out of

693
00:58:20.840 --> 00:58:25.079
brushed aluminum, which was done by
an Eastern European sculptor, and it's entitled

694
00:58:25.159 --> 00:58:31.079
Fallen Astronaut. It was carried up
there illegally by the mission commander, I

695
00:58:31.199 --> 00:58:36.119
think Apollo fifteen, and it was
taken up there and put on there,

696
00:58:36.159 --> 00:58:37.719
and he got his ass in a
big ringer for having done it, because

697
00:58:38.159 --> 00:58:44.559
hey, the space loads on board
the aircraft are measured in grams and balanced

698
00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:52.840
appropriate verus. They get only a
personal pocket and personal stuff like a pocket

699
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:57.679
sized envelope, and they're only allowed
to put so many you know, ounces

700
00:58:58.599 --> 00:59:00.639
or grams in that envelop of things
that they're going to take up there.

701
00:59:00.760 --> 00:59:07.760
But they were taking thousands of envelopes
that were stamped by, you know,

702
00:59:07.880 --> 00:59:12.840
by the NASA administration, postmarked the
NASA for Apollo fifteen going to meet.

703
00:59:12.920 --> 00:59:15.280
So when they brought those back,
these guys had this little cottage industry of

704
00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:21.880
selling crap, and they had made
a promise to this artist that they were

705
00:59:21.960 --> 00:59:25.639
gonna let him. They were going
to put his sculpture fall an Astronaut on

706
00:59:25.840 --> 00:59:30.000
the Moon, very close to the
rover, and a plaque that was there

707
00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:37.719
that honored all the names of the
fallen cosmonauts and US astronauts that are on

708
00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:42.960
that plaque. So now the plaque
and the fallen astronite statue are there.

709
00:59:43.800 --> 00:59:47.639
But the US government then launched this
huge investigation into it. NASA did because

710
00:59:47.639 --> 00:59:52.239
you're not supposed to do that,
but they caught them doing it and spanked

711
00:59:52.280 --> 00:59:57.480
them pretty hard. And I don't
think anybody that was on that mission ever

712
00:59:57.519 --> 01:00:00.159
flew another mission again, I think, well, I know that there's someone

713
01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:08.119
buried on the moon too, right, the founder of the founder of astrology.

714
01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:15.679
I believe Gene Shoemaker, his ashes
was buried on the moon. And

715
01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:17.719
who took his ashes up there?
I don't know. I'd have to look

716
01:00:17.760 --> 01:00:23.000
it up. Okay, I'm shaking
my head like, nope, I'm shaking

717
01:00:23.079 --> 01:00:27.320
my head going I had no idea, but hey, I just told you,

718
01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:30.559
you know that Gus Grissom was going
to take dimes up, you know,

719
01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:36.800
and did until he you know,
the capsule bolts blue and the capsule

720
01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:38.480
sunk, and he kind of went
down to shame and that before he got

721
01:00:38.519 --> 01:00:43.480
burned up later. But you know, hey, they were all doing that,

722
01:00:43.800 --> 01:00:49.360
and that's a whole that industry right
now of like space memorabilia. These

723
01:00:49.400 --> 01:00:52.320
guys make millions of dollars. I
mean millions of dollars. You have a

724
01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:57.280
pair of space gloves or a pair
of boots, or a helmet or anything

725
01:00:57.320 --> 01:01:00.039
else that went up or went on
the moon and came back again. It's

726
01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:05.159
worth more money than you know,
creases what up. It's just unbelievable.

727
01:01:05.400 --> 01:01:09.199
It was carried up in July of
thirty one. Gene Shoemaker. Some of

728
01:01:09.320 --> 01:01:15.039
his ashes were carried to the Moon
by the Lunar Prospector space Probe and a

729
01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:24.280
capsule designed by Caroline Portco. So
it was carried out by a had to

730
01:01:24.320 --> 01:01:30.639
be Was it private? Provided the
service at NASA's request, So I guess

731
01:01:30.679 --> 01:01:36.679
it was by NASA's request. Hold
on, I can bring up the name,

732
01:01:36.920 --> 01:01:40.239
my friend, because it doesn't sound
like something NASA would do. But

733
01:01:40.360 --> 01:01:44.679
hey, I don't know, don't
what do I know about what NASA?

734
01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:57.840
Here's Gene Eugene Shoemaker here death on
July thirty first, nineteen ninety nine.

735
01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:00.840
Some of his ashes were carried to
the Moon by Prospectors Space Probe and a

736
01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:10.960
council designed by Caroline Porco provided They
this company right here, Celestius Celestius Inc.

737
01:02:12.079 --> 01:02:16.840
Provided the service at NASA's request,
commercially making Shoemaker's ashes the first private

738
01:02:16.880 --> 01:02:21.639
delivery to the Lunar Service. So
yeah, it was done by a private

739
01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:24.280
company. Yeah, I had to
get back to you on that. I

740
01:02:24.360 --> 01:02:29.760
mean, I'm not saying didn't that, but I just it sounds fishy to

741
01:02:29.840 --> 01:02:34.400
me. But anyway, lots of
weird crap has happened. Hey, we

742
01:02:34.639 --> 01:02:38.599
just sent a private probe to the
moon. Just landed on the moon.

743
01:02:39.039 --> 01:02:45.000
Yeah, and some other guy put
a car up there. Huh, not

744
01:02:45.159 --> 01:02:47.840
on the moon, but it's just
floating around in space up there. Yeah.

745
01:02:47.920 --> 01:02:52.920
Yeah, but to carry your timeline
there. It was in sixty one,

746
01:02:54.480 --> 01:03:00.760
sixty one that President Kennedy actually stood
before Congress. And this is an

747
01:03:00.840 --> 01:03:06.960
interesting thing. The title of is
the title of his remarks to Congress were

748
01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:14.280
urgent national needs and he was asking
for seven to nine billion dollars. He

749
01:03:14.360 --> 01:03:19.320
got nine billion dollars, seven of
which went to the Space war effort.

750
01:03:19.440 --> 01:03:24.760
Two billion went to NASA. And
that was where he stated also and around

751
01:03:24.800 --> 01:03:29.159
that time, that that were going
to put a man on the Moon before

752
01:03:29.199 --> 01:03:31.599
the end of the decade, which
would have been, you know, nineteen

753
01:03:31.760 --> 01:03:38.599
seventy. And that was in sixty
nine. That's when Apollo with eleven landed

754
01:03:38.639 --> 01:03:43.599
with Armstrong, Collins and Aldron,
and we put a man on the moon.

755
01:03:43.960 --> 01:03:47.360
But that was the space Race,
not the Space War. The Space

756
01:03:47.519 --> 01:03:55.599
War which was going on behind all
of that, which was much more sinister

757
01:03:55.840 --> 01:04:00.239
in macob than what you might think, because we were in a fricking It

758
01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:05.360
was a war and it still is
a war. It was in fifty eight,

759
01:04:05.639 --> 01:04:12.199
seven months before Eisenhower. It's actually
twenty four January nineteen fifty eight,

760
01:04:12.320 --> 01:04:18.519
seven months before Eisenhower established NASA.
The Air Force Aeronautics Development Program that that

761
01:04:18.719 --> 01:04:27.280
general had started with the PhD physicist
was submitted to the Defense Department articulating five

762
01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:30.880
major systems that the Air Force wanted
to put it pursue into space. First

763
01:04:31.039 --> 01:04:38.159
was weapons, okay, So in
nineteen fifty six they started the ballistic tests

764
01:04:38.239 --> 01:04:42.119
on related systems that they were going
to put as weapons in space. On

765
01:04:42.239 --> 01:04:49.840
platforms. They wanted manned hypersonic and
unmanned hypersonic research to include space vehicles.

766
01:04:50.199 --> 01:04:57.199
They wanted an orbiter, bomter,
inceptor and reconnaissance variance. They wanted a

767
01:04:57.440 --> 01:05:02.960
US Air Force crewed military strategic space
station, and they got all these,

768
01:05:03.199 --> 01:05:08.800
okay. It was called a Whiskey
Sierra one one seven LIMA, and that

769
01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:14.880
space station occurred. I was in
the classified Air Force Museum at Wright Patterson

770
01:05:14.920 --> 01:05:17.880
Air Force Base, Jeez a long
time ago, now like maybe eight years

771
01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:24.559
ago, seven eight years ago,
and I saw four US Air Force astronaut

772
01:05:25.760 --> 01:05:32.920
uniforms hanging there in the area that
had the space wars stuff you know stuff

773
01:05:32.960 --> 01:05:35.559
that was now in the museum.
That was where I found out, like

774
01:05:35.679 --> 01:05:43.519
in nineteen fifty five we were sending
unmanned aerial reconnaissance drones over the Soviet Union

775
01:05:44.079 --> 01:05:49.280
in fifty five and earlier. I
didn't think we had drones until you know

776
01:05:49.519 --> 01:05:56.599
that we're operating like that until geez, well into in the sixties or the

777
01:05:56.679 --> 01:06:00.440
seventies at the earliest. And I
mean I never even heard of them in

778
01:06:00.480 --> 01:06:04.960
a military application for like a infantry
division, like an airborne division until the

779
01:06:05.039 --> 01:06:09.960
Predator, and that was in like
ninety one, ninety two somewhere or in

780
01:06:10.039 --> 01:06:15.039
that time. Per would this command
post be related, this airborne command post

781
01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:21.320
be related to the Operation Looking Glass
that happened in nineteen sixty one, which

782
01:06:21.639 --> 01:06:27.199
is by the Air Force to put
a nuclear command post in space. That's

783
01:06:27.320 --> 01:06:30.920
the Lunux project. If I think, if you're talking about the idea to

784
01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:35.360
put there were the idea was to
put an actual manned weapons base on nuclear

785
01:06:35.480 --> 01:06:40.960
weapons base on the Moon. It
was also part of the Space Wars project.

786
01:06:41.519 --> 01:06:45.119
So don't I can't name the projects
for you. Projects our look,

787
01:06:45.239 --> 01:06:50.239
projects come and go like toilet paper. They don't. You may see one

788
01:06:50.320 --> 01:06:54.920
stick. You may have one that
gets released or something, but the thing

789
01:06:55.000 --> 01:06:59.519
that's important, or the promulgating documents
stated by the Air Force to the Department

790
01:06:59.559 --> 01:07:02.960
of Fence, this is what we're
going to do. Whatever black project that

791
01:07:03.119 --> 01:07:10.119
they call it at the time being
could have ten variants of that same objective

792
01:07:10.760 --> 01:07:16.360
a black project under that and those
projects are named sometimes just to hide money.

793
01:07:17.039 --> 01:07:20.880
So you could get a project that
might be called something, and everybody

794
01:07:20.960 --> 01:07:24.039
thinks, oh my god, this
is it, and this is what it's

795
01:07:24.039 --> 01:07:28.000
about. And if you ever get
back to the project manager, the civilian

796
01:07:28.079 --> 01:07:30.719
it actually created it, oftentimes they'll
say, yeah, I just needed a

797
01:07:30.760 --> 01:07:36.280
place to bury reconnaissance aircraft development,
so I created this black project. And

798
01:07:36.320 --> 01:07:43.960
then we had six reconnaissance aircraft in
development in this thing. And out of

799
01:07:44.039 --> 01:07:47.119
the six that were in development under
a black project, they may take two

800
01:07:47.360 --> 01:07:51.400
that they consider that are worthy of
still being a black project, and those

801
01:07:51.480 --> 01:07:56.320
stay as a black project, and
you will never know what those are,

802
01:07:57.159 --> 01:08:01.960
and it will get a different project
name, which are now considered gray projects.

803
01:08:02.679 --> 01:08:06.000
Then all of a sudden, that
project, you know, project whatever

804
01:08:06.119 --> 01:08:10.760
book gets thrown out there and then
everybody's like, oh, now I know,

805
01:08:11.039 --> 01:08:13.719
no you don't know. You know, what they're letting you know is

806
01:08:13.800 --> 01:08:17.640
what you know. They're releasing it
to you because it's now been declassified because

807
01:08:17.680 --> 01:08:20.600
all of the projects that were being
worked under it when they were black are

808
01:08:20.640 --> 01:08:26.560
now gray. And so the two
that are staying as black projects which you

809
01:08:26.720 --> 01:08:30.880
don't know anything about, that's now
under a new project. So when you

810
01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:33.760
find out about it, when it
comes to you, when it's available to

811
01:08:33.880 --> 01:08:39.239
you to find or research somewhere a
photo or something else, unless it's a

812
01:08:39.279 --> 01:08:44.760
photo taking you know, at two
hundred thousand feet where you see something going

813
01:08:44.840 --> 01:08:48.479
by somewhere up there that looks like
something, and then people start calling it

814
01:08:48.600 --> 01:08:56.079
something. Those are just those are
just freak photos that somebody captured. But

815
01:08:56.159 --> 01:09:00.520
you don't know what the project is. People will start matching how things look

816
01:09:00.840 --> 01:09:02.840
up to something else and you have
to go back to exactly what I just

817
01:09:02.960 --> 01:09:10.680
said. When they're working on,
you know, an unmanned drone aerial reconnaissance

818
01:09:10.760 --> 01:09:15.000
vehicle that will be in space that
will fly up two hundred thousand feet three

819
01:09:15.119 --> 01:09:18.079
hundred thousand feet and then drop down
when they want it to, or skip

820
01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:23.920
across the atmosphere like a spark fire
or some of the other things that are

821
01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:28.319
up there. Then what they'll do
is the ones at work, the ones

822
01:09:28.359 --> 01:09:32.680
that test the you know, the
developers, whether it's McDonald Douglas, or

823
01:09:32.720 --> 01:09:38.800
it's somebody else, Jpero Space or
whoever you know, has one that fails

824
01:09:38.880 --> 01:09:43.760
to work or doesn't meet the guidelines
or doesn't meet their milestones. They just

825
01:09:44.199 --> 01:09:46.680
that now has become a great project. That's when you'll see it, and

826
01:09:47.600 --> 01:09:51.920
you'll see it in Scientific American or
Popular Mechanics, or you'll see it and

827
01:09:53.000 --> 01:09:55.960
you read all kinds of stuff.
Whatever it is, they choose to tell

828
01:09:56.000 --> 01:09:59.920
you or let you know about it, and you might find out what project

829
01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:02.399
that happened to have been listed under
when it was black. But if you

830
01:10:02.520 --> 01:10:05.960
find out what that project is,
it's no longer a black project. The

831
01:10:06.079 --> 01:10:12.520
next black project will be so dug
down ones are going forward, right,

832
01:10:12.920 --> 01:10:15.840
it won't send out the royal ones. Yeah, and they do that on

833
01:10:15.960 --> 01:10:20.000
purpose. It's dumb for a reason. Welcome to the show. Thank you

834
01:10:20.079 --> 01:10:24.119
so much for your ninety nine cents, supersticker and your support of the show.

835
01:10:24.199 --> 01:10:30.399
Really appreciate your brother. So you
were talking about military drones earlier and

836
01:10:30.479 --> 01:10:35.600
you said, I believe you said
forty five you were aware of military drones.

837
01:10:35.680 --> 01:10:40.439
Is that correct? Forty five December
of forty five is when the space

838
01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:45.840
war began with the Soviet Union and
China, although China, you know,

839
01:10:45.920 --> 01:10:48.800
at that particular point in time,
was still eating dirt soup, so there

840
01:10:48.920 --> 01:10:54.399
wasn't much they were doing right in
terms of being viable as an enemy.

841
01:10:54.520 --> 01:10:58.399
I mean, they didn't show up
on a battlefield for US or against US

842
01:10:58.520 --> 01:11:03.880
until Korea, which was you know, early fifties. But forty five they

843
01:11:03.920 --> 01:11:08.760
were not They were not a space
you know, they were not a contender

844
01:11:08.840 --> 01:11:12.840
for space. But it didn't.
In fact, the Chinese, I don't

845
01:11:12.840 --> 01:11:18.720
think, joined the space program,
the space war program until nineteen seventy,

846
01:11:19.119 --> 01:11:26.960
nineteen seventy twenty four April nineteen seventy, they put up an artificial satellite.

847
01:11:28.520 --> 01:11:31.840
Sock Rick wants to know what's going
on with the dark side of the moon.

848
01:11:31.960 --> 01:11:35.000
Dave, tell us what's back there? Bro are their buildings back there?

849
01:11:35.399 --> 01:11:39.520
Or there's giant reptilian bases on the
back side of the moon. Dave,

850
01:11:39.640 --> 01:11:44.399
let us know. Tell us what's
what? I know, it's dark

851
01:11:44.520 --> 01:11:49.479
back I can't see back there.
You're assuming it as a remote viewer.

852
01:11:49.560 --> 01:11:53.600
I looked back there, but no
I have not that. You would have

853
01:11:53.680 --> 01:11:56.560
to go to Ingo Swan for you
can read some of his stuff on there,

854
01:11:56.880 --> 01:12:00.439
maybe Ed Dames or a half dozen
others that have said that they've looked

855
01:12:00.479 --> 01:12:02.000
on the backside of them, But
I, on the other hand, did

856
01:12:02.079 --> 01:12:09.000
not. So you didn't look at
any any other planets or anything like that.

857
01:12:10.279 --> 01:12:13.960
Yeah, but you know why we're
talk trying to talk facts here,

858
01:12:14.720 --> 01:12:18.119
not antecdotal stories based on an experience. I mean, I can't prove any

859
01:12:18.159 --> 01:12:21.840
of those things. I mean I
can't prove that what you know, twenty

860
01:12:21.880 --> 01:12:29.039
three thousand remote viewers looking at you
know, into the Olympus mons, you

861
01:12:29.119 --> 01:12:33.600
know ice, I mean, lava
tubes and create and underground craters and things.

862
01:12:33.680 --> 01:12:36.520
If I come back and tell you
that, you know, out of

863
01:12:36.560 --> 01:12:42.359
twenty three thousand of them, you
know, nineteen thousand of them saw you

864
01:12:42.479 --> 01:12:47.039
know, a city the size of
Manhattan in there. You know. Is

865
01:12:47.079 --> 01:12:50.479
there a correlation of the data,
Yeah, but it's a correlation. But

866
01:12:50.680 --> 01:12:56.359
is it anything but anecdotal, No, it isn't. It's just correlated data.

867
01:12:56.520 --> 01:12:59.840
But you can't present that as an
absolute I would never stand up and

868
01:13:00.039 --> 01:13:02.640
say that to people like, oh, yeah, I know that these things

869
01:13:02.720 --> 01:13:06.000
exist there. No, I don't
know that, and I can't prove it,

870
01:13:06.119 --> 01:13:11.119
so I won't say it. So
that makes a lot of sense.

871
01:13:11.199 --> 01:13:17.840
There's a large group of people within
the community that say the Far Side Institute,

872
01:13:18.399 --> 01:13:23.279
you know about the Foreside Institute,
like the far the for Side Institute

873
01:13:23.319 --> 01:13:27.000
remote viewed and it turns out that
it's real. Like I hear that excuse

874
01:13:27.119 --> 01:13:31.439
like all the time when it comes
to extra treshoal entities, bases on military

875
01:13:31.479 --> 01:13:35.000
bases on other planets and all that. So so speak about the Far Side

876
01:13:35.039 --> 01:13:39.039
Institute really quickly so we can try
and get that out of the way.

877
01:13:39.479 --> 01:13:45.159
Courtney Brown used to be a I
met him many times. How I med

878
01:13:45.199 --> 01:13:53.279
him was he was writing a book
called Cosmic Voyage, I believe with Ed

879
01:13:53.359 --> 01:14:00.039
Dames and in typical I don't actually
think it was Ed Dames that did these

880
01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:03.359
things. I think it was Ed
Dames's girlfriend or his wife at the time

881
01:14:03.479 --> 01:14:09.439
that was, you know, putting
words in his mouth. I mean from

882
01:14:09.479 --> 01:14:13.319
everything I heard from mel Riley and
stuff that if anybody was talking to him

883
01:14:13.359 --> 01:14:15.920
on the phone, that she was
like standing next to him listening and telling

884
01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:20.079
him and writing him notes about what
to say. So I'm sorry that that's

885
01:14:20.119 --> 01:14:23.840
how, you know, things became
in his life, because that wasn't how

886
01:14:23.920 --> 01:14:28.680
he was when I knew him in
the unit. I think he's a very

887
01:14:28.920 --> 01:14:31.680
intelligent, highly intelligent man, and
I just don't know where this doctor Doom

888
01:14:31.840 --> 01:14:36.439
bullshit came in, but I know
what caused it, and this is part

889
01:14:36.479 --> 01:14:43.079
of that story. So I know
with Courtney Brown, Cosmic Voyage, Courtney

890
01:14:43.119 --> 01:14:47.159
Brown taking a single class with it, and then they were working these you

891
01:14:47.239 --> 01:14:51.319
know, cosmic voyage, alien et
projects together, which meant now you had

892
01:14:51.319 --> 01:15:00.079
a monitor, which was Ed working
with Courtney, who was a professor at

893
01:15:00.079 --> 01:15:05.119
Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia,
Georgia, writing this book Cosmic Voyage,

894
01:15:05.159 --> 01:15:11.000
and I, as I said,
there was a falling out between the between

895
01:15:11.039 --> 01:15:14.399
the two of them, and Courtney
you know, told me one time and

896
01:15:14.439 --> 01:15:15.000
the phone he goes, you know, so I just said, Toad,

897
01:15:15.119 --> 01:15:17.399
it's like, you know, I'm
pulling you out of the book. And

898
01:15:17.880 --> 01:15:20.479
Ed was like, you can't do
that, and Courtney was like, yeah,

899
01:15:20.520 --> 01:15:25.600
you can. It's word Microsoft word. It's called search and replace.

900
01:15:26.119 --> 01:15:30.079
So he just searched and replaced and
pulled pulled James's name out of the book

901
01:15:30.119 --> 01:15:34.119
and put in remote viewer and there
that is now past that point. The

902
01:15:34.239 --> 01:15:41.640
issue here is that you have a
guy who is not necessarily a scientist.

903
01:15:43.239 --> 01:15:47.520
He is an academic, but he
took one class and he took a class

904
01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:56.359
from Ed Dames that was heavily you
know, heavily ladened with with aliens and

905
01:15:56.760 --> 01:16:02.800
UFO stuff. And that is the
direction that Courtney has gone for a very

906
01:16:02.880 --> 01:16:06.640
long time. And I'll tell you
one of the things that happened. If

907
01:16:06.680 --> 01:16:13.159
you remember, there's there was a
group once upon a time. I hate

908
01:16:13.159 --> 01:16:16.119
telling this story, but it's it's
a good story to tell. The remember

909
01:16:16.159 --> 01:16:21.800
the Art Bell Show and when Art
Bell was alive, there was the comment

910
01:16:21.960 --> 01:16:28.600
Hailbop was coming. Yes, they
were responsible for a bunch of nonsense.

911
01:16:28.640 --> 01:16:32.000
Continue, yes, so the comment
Hailbop is coming in. And so our

912
01:16:32.079 --> 01:16:40.119
Bell, you know, is talking
to Courtney Brown that night on the Art

913
01:16:40.159 --> 01:16:44.279
Bell Show. And suddenly, you
know, something comes across the facts or

914
01:16:44.319 --> 01:16:47.960
in an email, don't know exactly
how, but it's a photograph of Hailbop

915
01:16:48.079 --> 01:16:55.920
and it is from allegedly, you
know, a professional astronomer. Astronomer who

916
01:16:55.960 --> 01:16:59.439
said we have this picture of Hailbop, and if you'll look into the Tale

917
01:16:59.439 --> 01:17:03.079
of Hailbop, you'll see that there's
a visible object moving in the tail of

918
01:17:03.159 --> 01:17:08.239
the common Hailbob. We were just
wondering if you know, Courtney Brown could

919
01:17:09.479 --> 01:17:13.000
use his Far Side Institute and if
they could look at this and let us

920
01:17:13.119 --> 01:17:17.199
know what is there. So that's
what Courtney Brown does. I guess a

921
01:17:17.279 --> 01:17:20.520
couple of weeks go by or something, and they come back again, and

922
01:17:20.640 --> 01:17:28.119
then coming back he presents this whole
laydown of how his Far Side Institute saw

923
01:17:28.239 --> 01:17:33.840
this object in the Tale of Hailbop
and concluded that it was in fact a

924
01:17:33.960 --> 01:17:39.640
mother ship and that it was a
mothership moving in the tail and that it

925
01:17:39.800 --> 01:17:45.520
was coming by Planet Earth to pick
up people from Planet Earth, or words

926
01:17:45.600 --> 01:17:53.159
to that effect. And so,
unbeknownst to any of the players that I

927
01:17:53.359 --> 01:17:58.479
just laid out for you, there's
a cult group in sand, you know,

928
01:17:59.319 --> 01:18:03.479
out in sand from any area,
I mean San Diego area, Heavens

929
01:18:03.560 --> 01:18:11.039
Gate, and the leader, the
living leader of Heaven's Gate, takes thirty

930
01:18:11.119 --> 01:18:15.720
one people and says that you heard
it on art Bell, because they all

931
01:18:15.840 --> 01:18:18.159
listen to art Bell, and they
all watched Stark Star Trek, you know,

932
01:18:18.399 --> 01:18:25.159
every time it was on. So
when this being said, they decided

933
01:18:25.279 --> 01:18:31.840
to commit mass suicide because you know, their leader Doe or Tea was now

934
01:18:31.960 --> 01:18:36.239
going to take all of them and
lead them as they died in shifts.

935
01:18:38.039 --> 01:18:42.319
These away teams were going to go
link up with this mother ship where they

936
01:18:42.359 --> 01:18:46.600
could link up with Tea or Doe, whichever one was there. Tier do

937
01:18:47.119 --> 01:18:50.920
the leaders male and female d T
and do. I can't remember which one

938
01:18:51.039 --> 01:18:55.520
was which, but the remaining one
says they're going to go link up with

939
01:18:55.600 --> 01:18:59.560
the other one on the mothership.
So they still are offering themselves. Well

940
01:18:59.600 --> 01:19:05.760
while they're offering themselves horribly h The
exchange continues on the Art Bell Show as

941
01:19:05.840 --> 01:19:12.279
this is pronounced at some other time, well they're still offing, where this

942
01:19:12.720 --> 01:19:20.000
astronomer allegedly comes back and says who
they are and that this was a faked

943
01:19:20.079 --> 01:19:26.479
photograph, that the photograph had been
altered, that there was no object in

944
01:19:26.600 --> 01:19:31.880
it, and that they were just
using this episode to prove how bad Courtney

945
01:19:31.920 --> 01:19:38.239
Brown and the Farsight Institute were with
all of these things. Now from the

946
01:19:38.359 --> 01:19:43.039
rumor and the inside channel within the
remote Viewing community, was that that Bake

947
01:19:43.239 --> 01:19:48.960
the astronomer was was ed and or
Edg's accomplishments in his company that was there

948
01:19:49.039 --> 01:19:55.319
under you know, basically the tyranny
of that of whoever he was with at

949
01:19:55.359 --> 01:19:59.159
that particular point in time, just
to set Courtney Brown up, all of

950
01:19:59.239 --> 01:20:01.159
them, of course, ignorant of
what the consequences would have been, but

951
01:20:01.399 --> 01:20:06.239
also just not in it, you
know, so selfish in that process and

952
01:20:06.359 --> 01:20:11.479
not actually thinking that you say something
like that, that there may be some

953
01:20:11.640 --> 01:20:16.000
people that are gullible enough and injured
enough that they might just take what you're

954
01:20:16.039 --> 01:20:21.600
saying as truth and go, you
know, commit mass suicide, which is

955
01:20:21.680 --> 01:20:29.600
what happened, but into the next
evolutionary level above human is what the Heaven's

956
01:20:29.600 --> 01:20:31.920
skatequ I did a whole series on
it. Now, Welcome to the Show

957
01:20:32.039 --> 01:20:35.920
says Art Bell never made those comments, and he says that you always pitched

958
01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:40.399
that. I don't know what comments
he made or what he didn't make,

959
01:20:40.479 --> 01:20:44.840
but I'm I'm pretty certain that it
did have to do with Art Bell's show.

960
01:20:45.279 --> 01:20:48.920
It was a show. I don't
know what ar Bell said about it,

961
01:20:49.039 --> 01:20:56.720
but it did happen on Art Bell's
show. That's factual. Now regardless

962
01:20:56.760 --> 01:21:02.079
of if he said that there really
was a I don't know the exact exactly

963
01:21:02.159 --> 01:21:04.239
what he said, but it did
happen on the show. Now, he

964
01:21:04.359 --> 01:21:08.399
might not have said, oh,
there's for sure a mother ship behind the

965
01:21:08.479 --> 01:21:11.640
tell of the comment, but he
had the people on the show that did

966
01:21:11.800 --> 01:21:19.800
say that there was a mother ship
behind the comment. That's all I want

967
01:21:19.840 --> 01:21:24.880
to hear about that. I don't
address comments. I don't get in a

968
01:21:24.960 --> 01:21:30.239
pisson contest with the gallery. Okay, so you don't agree with that and

969
01:21:30.359 --> 01:21:36.760
don't agree with it, I could
not care less. Yeah, so that's

970
01:21:36.800 --> 01:21:45.079
pretty much the Foresight Institute and people
like to use their I mean, I

971
01:21:45.119 --> 01:21:49.319
guess this gets into a question,
is you know, how does remote viewing

972
01:21:49.800 --> 01:21:56.439
actually work? Because there's a large
group of people, large group of remote

973
01:21:56.520 --> 01:22:00.960
viewers that say that they can just
look at a picture of something and they're

974
01:22:01.359 --> 01:22:06.159
able to remove you it, or
or if they know the target of the

975
01:22:06.279 --> 01:22:11.560
remove what they're going to see,
then they can remove you. But that's

976
01:22:11.640 --> 01:22:18.079
not how remote viewing works. You
just can't know what you're remote viewing and

977
01:22:18.159 --> 01:22:25.640
then get accurate information correct look,
no, because then you'd be front loaded

978
01:22:25.680 --> 01:22:29.720
and that would not be blind or
double blind. So therefore that would be

979
01:22:29.800 --> 01:22:34.880
the process of your own imagination,
right, because then you get your preconceived

980
01:22:35.159 --> 01:22:40.359
notions and you can receive it from
memory. It would be nothing but anecdotal

981
01:22:40.439 --> 01:22:45.159
and experiential. There wouldn't be nothing
empirical about what you're producing. Yeah,

982
01:22:45.560 --> 01:22:50.920
the uh. But there's a large
group of remote claimed remove viewers. People

983
01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:55.960
they claim that they can remove you, right, which is hundreds and hundreds

984
01:22:56.000 --> 01:23:00.920
of people like that that like the
people that claim the remote view the Miami

985
01:23:01.039 --> 01:23:08.319
Mall. Right, dozens of those
YouTubers on YouTube days remote view the aliens

986
01:23:08.399 --> 01:23:11.960
at the Miami Mall. I was
like, well, how did you remove

987
01:23:12.039 --> 01:23:15.319
youe The aliens at the Miami Mall
if you knew that that's what you were

988
01:23:15.399 --> 01:23:26.640
remote viewing. It's a good question. Yeah, you can't do it.

989
01:23:26.720 --> 01:23:30.439
I mean it's like, look,
it goes back to where we were starting

990
01:23:30.439 --> 01:23:31.640
with this. I thought we were
going to talk about tonight, which was

991
01:23:31.680 --> 01:23:40.760
the Rise of the con Man.
But but you know, we're going down

992
01:23:40.800 --> 01:23:45.640
different rabbit holes at this particular juncture, and it if you're asking me,

993
01:23:45.399 --> 01:23:49.960
you know, I've said it many
thousands of times that you can't you know,

994
01:23:50.319 --> 01:23:55.079
I can go back to the rules
of remote viewing, and they're very

995
01:23:55.159 --> 01:23:58.760
simple. It's not one hundred percent
accurate, It never has been, and

996
01:23:58.880 --> 01:24:02.039
it never will be. Okay,
that's rule number one. Rule number two.

997
01:24:02.159 --> 01:24:05.920
You never trust the results of a
single remote viewer operating independently of other

998
01:24:05.960 --> 01:24:12.159
remote viewers. Why because of rule
number one. So why would you trust

999
01:24:12.279 --> 01:24:15.079
if you already know it's not on
percent accurate, never has been, number

1000
01:24:15.159 --> 01:24:19.239
will be. Why would you use
one remote viewer to tell you the answer

1001
01:24:19.319 --> 01:24:24.720
to something? Right? And rule
number three is remote viewing was never intended

1002
01:24:24.760 --> 01:24:29.600
to be used as a standalone endeavor. That means it was always used in

1003
01:24:29.800 --> 01:24:34.720
consonants with other intelligence collection methodologies,
which is why if you try to take

1004
01:24:34.760 --> 01:24:39.439
a position, say well it didn't
work and it never produced actionable intelligence.

1005
01:24:40.000 --> 01:24:44.079
The same could be said of signal
intelligence, of photo intelligence, of sad

1006
01:24:44.159 --> 01:24:46.439
intelligence, particularly of human intelligence.
I mean, let's face it, we

1007
01:24:46.640 --> 01:24:54.000
invaded a rack based on two sources
of human intelligence, so human intelligence.

1008
01:24:54.119 --> 01:24:57.000
None of the sources of human intelligence, which there are only used to be

1009
01:24:57.239 --> 01:25:01.159
seven, there are actually somewhere in
a number of like thirty nine different intelligence

1010
01:25:01.199 --> 01:25:09.359
collection methodologies and use. Right now
and when remote viewing was being used,

1011
01:25:09.359 --> 01:25:15.119
which I believe that it still is
being used, that it would it would

1012
01:25:15.159 --> 01:25:19.880
hold its own against all of the
other intelligence collectors because for those that don't

1013
01:25:20.039 --> 01:25:24.119
know this and can't figure it out, none of them are one hundred percent

1014
01:25:24.199 --> 01:25:28.560
accurate. And if none of them
are one hundred percent accurate, that's the

1015
01:25:28.680 --> 01:25:32.039
reason why there are so many of
them. Now, every other methodology that

1016
01:25:32.119 --> 01:25:39.159
they could possibly create to create one
more picture of the intelligence puzzle, and

1017
01:25:39.279 --> 01:25:42.640
that's what they do, and that's
how they do it, and that's why

1018
01:25:42.720 --> 01:25:46.399
it's put together that way, and
that's why remote viewing was never a standalone

1019
01:25:46.479 --> 01:25:50.720
thing. No nobody ever filled up
a helicopter with a bunch of Delta Force

1020
01:25:51.239 --> 01:25:58.119
and rangers and took down a target
somewhere because of only remote viewers. However,

1021
01:26:00.279 --> 01:26:05.399
back then, during the failed Iranian
hostage rescue attempt, remote viewers played

1022
01:26:05.439 --> 01:26:10.640
one of the more significant roles in
the development of intelligence in support of that

1023
01:26:12.159 --> 01:26:16.159
failed exercise. But the failed exercise
was that failed mission was failed at Desert

1024
01:26:16.239 --> 01:26:21.560
One because helicopters all went down because
they just weren't made to fly under those

1025
01:26:21.680 --> 01:26:27.720
kinds of conditions, and so the
air mission commander shut down the air operation,

1026
01:26:27.960 --> 01:26:30.760
meaning they had to load everybody back
up on the sea one thirties and

1027
01:26:30.920 --> 01:26:36.560
what two working aircraft they had out
of I think nine or ten and get

1028
01:26:36.640 --> 01:26:41.079
them, you know, X filled
out of the area. That's the reason

1029
01:26:41.119 --> 01:26:45.840
that went down. And then a
helicopter drifts after it browns out when it

1030
01:26:45.960 --> 01:26:50.439
takes off because they had shitty second
generation night vision goggles on because that's all

1031
01:26:50.520 --> 01:26:55.319
we had at the time, and
they drifted into a SEE one thirty tanker

1032
01:26:55.399 --> 01:27:00.800
filled with delta and exploded. Now, but back when they were planning the

1033
01:27:00.920 --> 01:27:06.720
mission, they didn't have They didn't
have any of the floor plans of the

1034
01:27:06.880 --> 01:27:12.960
US embassy in Tehran. They didn't
have any of those floor plans. I

1035
01:27:13.079 --> 01:27:17.079
find that to be an astounding oversight
for the US State Department not to have

1036
01:27:17.239 --> 01:27:21.239
the floor plans of the embassies you
know, around the world. But they

1037
01:27:21.319 --> 01:27:26.359
didn't. I guess they just didn't
think that way that somebody might ever take

1038
01:27:26.439 --> 01:27:30.840
one down. But they didn't know
where stairwells were, they didn't know which

1039
01:27:30.920 --> 01:27:34.920
way doors opened, they didn't know
where they might be keeping the hostages.

1040
01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:40.560
They didn't know, you know,
what kind of locking devices or what kinds

1041
01:27:40.560 --> 01:27:44.359
of you know, the doors look
like necessarily on the outside. They had

1042
01:27:44.479 --> 01:27:48.199
some satellite imagery, but they didn't
have the kind of that they have nowadays.

1043
01:27:48.479 --> 01:27:53.920
They just didn't have that. So
the two primary sources of intelligence other

1044
01:27:54.039 --> 01:28:01.520
than human intelligence in sources which could
only get limited visuals on it because the

1045
01:28:02.640 --> 01:28:08.600
Republican you know, their Republican guard
that were there were had the place cordoned

1046
01:28:08.680 --> 01:28:12.800
off and they were quite brutal and
they weren't letting, you know, spectators

1047
01:28:12.840 --> 01:28:15.720
in to get a look around and
draw sketches, you know, or try

1048
01:28:15.760 --> 01:28:18.680
to remember things or take pictures.
None of that was allowed. So Ted

1049
01:28:18.800 --> 01:28:24.479
Copple was one of the guys that
had access to the place and was doing

1050
01:28:26.239 --> 01:28:31.279
was not Republican guards, Iranian guards. The students that had overthrown the embassy

1051
01:28:31.359 --> 01:28:39.439
there at the behest of Ayatola Komani, they had Ted Copple was there interviewing

1052
01:28:39.560 --> 01:28:44.720
them, and in interviewing them,
they were positioning the camera in certain ways

1053
01:28:45.119 --> 01:28:49.319
to kind of look past the interview
past Ted Copple and be able to give

1054
01:28:50.039 --> 01:28:55.479
the analysts a view down the hallway
to see if how people were coming out

1055
01:28:55.520 --> 01:28:58.880
of doors and things like that.
But they didn't know where. What they

1056
01:28:58.960 --> 01:29:01.279
knew there were some bulletproof windows,
but they didn't know where the bulletproof windows

1057
01:29:01.319 --> 01:29:05.439
where. There was just a lot
of ignorance about what was going on there.

1058
01:29:06.119 --> 01:29:13.880
The next thing it happened was they
used remote viewers to look because if

1059
01:29:13.960 --> 01:29:17.479
they you know, as it was
said by a former director of the Central

1060
01:29:17.520 --> 01:29:20.800
Intelligence atugency, I don't care if
it's only six percent accurate. If it's

1061
01:29:20.800 --> 01:29:25.880
six percent accurate information, but I
can't glean by any other means that it's

1062
01:29:25.920 --> 01:29:30.439
intelligence dollars well spent. So the
whole point was that, hey, maybe

1063
01:29:30.520 --> 01:29:33.920
we aren't able to prove whether it's
you know, what the accuracy of it

1064
01:29:34.079 --> 01:29:39.000
is, but if the data correlates
from the viewers that are doing it,

1065
01:29:39.159 --> 01:29:42.359
then we want to see it and
we want to at least consider it,

1066
01:29:43.319 --> 01:29:45.760
you know, and how we're going
to plan this operation and where we're going

1067
01:29:45.840 --> 01:29:49.119
to land, and I mean there
were they had things like they had them

1068
01:29:49.159 --> 01:29:53.680
looking at targets like you know,
the stadium where they were going to land

1069
01:29:54.600 --> 01:30:00.720
the helicopters and then assault directly to
the embassy from that state, which was

1070
01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:04.439
not far away. But they had
them pulling out crew serve weapons, and

1071
01:30:04.560 --> 01:30:09.600
indicating where crew served weapons were.
The remote viewers, Now that's what who

1072
01:30:09.720 --> 01:30:15.039
was doing that. So all of
that was being produced by the remote viewers

1073
01:30:15.079 --> 01:30:20.399
and being used in consonance with whatever
other intelligence they could get, including that

1074
01:30:21.079 --> 01:30:27.399
that was coming from the Ted Copple
news show that was there being held there,

1075
01:30:28.079 --> 01:30:30.840
and that's how they were planning out
operation I mean, was based on

1076
01:30:31.000 --> 01:30:35.960
that. Certainly there were other pieces
of information that came in through other sources,

1077
01:30:36.039 --> 01:30:40.840
but those were the two primaries that
they had, you know, at

1078
01:30:40.920 --> 01:30:45.800
least according to Delta in the Rangers, and my former first sergeant was in

1079
01:30:45.920 --> 01:30:50.560
the Rangers during that operation. So
Dana, do you ask, what's the

1080
01:30:50.640 --> 01:30:58.159
difference between removed viewers and psychic mediums
who can view different realms? In your

1081
01:30:58.199 --> 01:31:03.439
opinion, of of course, I'll
say it again, remote viewing is a

1082
01:31:04.239 --> 01:31:10.560
discipline, a dogma that was designed
for the intelligence community. That's what remote

1083
01:31:10.600 --> 01:31:14.600
viewing is. I can't tell you
what psychics do. I'm not psychic.

1084
01:31:15.000 --> 01:31:18.880
I don't never claim to be psychic, not psychic. I'm a remot viewer.

1085
01:31:19.039 --> 01:31:21.720
I was trained to be a removiewer. I work for the Intelligence service

1086
01:31:21.920 --> 01:31:29.359
doing that. So what a psychic
does a psychic does and invents on their

1087
01:31:29.399 --> 01:31:32.119
own. They come up with their
own process to their own whatever, and

1088
01:31:32.399 --> 01:31:35.880
they claim accuracy or not or how
they pitch it to somebody. It either

1089
01:31:36.000 --> 01:31:40.479
is or it isn't. There can
be, at least by some analyses and

1090
01:31:40.560 --> 01:31:45.000
takes on it. A lot of
trickery and a lot of different kinds of

1091
01:31:45.039 --> 01:31:47.520
things that go on with it.
And I'm sure there are probably some people

1092
01:31:47.520 --> 01:31:54.239
who are very gifted clairvoyance, but
what they do and what remote viewers do

1093
01:31:54.479 --> 01:31:59.279
are completely at opposite ends of the
spectrum. What remote viewers do, if

1094
01:31:59.279 --> 01:32:01.439
they're doing it, it's supposed to
be done operating into the rules that I

1095
01:32:01.600 --> 01:32:06.119
just articulated for you. They don't
get out there and take tests, they

1096
01:32:06.199 --> 01:32:11.000
don't do things they don't they don't
get engaged in dog and pony shows and

1097
01:32:11.079 --> 01:32:15.239
parlor tricks and you know, those
kinds of things. What they do they

1098
01:32:15.359 --> 01:32:20.439
work for either the transformational experience of
what happens when you get to the place

1099
01:32:20.479 --> 01:32:24.840
where you no longer believe that there's
something beyond the physical, but you now

1100
01:32:25.000 --> 01:32:29.119
know it, and you know that
through doing the work and both the physical

1101
01:32:29.199 --> 01:32:33.640
and the non physical realm. So
that's a transformative experience. Beyond that point,

1102
01:32:33.720 --> 01:32:36.199
I get asked that question, what
am I going to do with it?

1103
01:32:36.359 --> 01:32:42.159
Well, you know what. How
about first you get transformed where you're

1104
01:32:42.199 --> 01:32:48.039
no longer wishing or hoping or believing
that there's something beyond the physical and you're

1105
01:32:48.159 --> 01:32:51.760
usually you know, not part of
the seventy six percent who believe that there

1106
01:32:51.880 --> 01:32:56.600
is, but don't believe that you'll
ever realize it or you'll ever recognize it

1107
01:32:56.720 --> 01:33:00.800
or be part of it. How
about you step into the realm of doing

1108
01:33:00.880 --> 01:33:02.000
the work to where you get to
the point where you now know it.

1109
01:33:02.640 --> 01:33:08.880
Big difference between believing something and knowing
it. Everybody here believes something, right,

1110
01:33:09.800 --> 01:33:14.520
There's a difference when you know something. So you have to do that

1111
01:33:14.840 --> 01:33:19.680
and now you know It's probably the
best explanation I can give you. Rick's

1112
01:33:19.720 --> 01:33:24.880
funny thing is we're all remov viewing
this live stream right now. Wow,

1113
01:33:25.079 --> 01:33:29.960
that's true, kind of our remotely
viewing it. We're not in the same

1114
01:33:30.079 --> 01:33:39.800
room. It's pretty interesting. Jenna
says, Uh, some remove viewers make

1115
01:33:39.800 --> 01:33:42.760
the best poem readers. This is
a completely different thing, Jenna, But

1116
01:33:43.000 --> 01:33:47.760
thank you for your comment. Just
your only one percent of psychics are legitilate

1117
01:33:47.840 --> 01:33:53.279
for the ones that do not ask
for a fee or a donation. Yeah,

1118
01:33:53.279 --> 01:34:00.479
I've been Uh, I wonder where
that study came from. If it's

1119
01:34:00.600 --> 01:34:17.840
right, God, does that go
to you? Yes? Okay, that's

1120
01:34:18.000 --> 01:34:28.119
right. Size things for the explanation. Yeah, I'm sorry, it's it's

1121
01:34:28.880 --> 01:34:32.039
not a better explanation. It's a
lot of moving pieces in that explanation.

1122
01:34:32.199 --> 01:34:39.439
And I say it so many thousands
of times, you know a year that

1123
01:34:44.319 --> 01:34:47.520
it's you're start to really feel like
you're pulling repeat, you know, on

1124
01:34:47.640 --> 01:34:50.279
some of those things, which is
why I really like to come in and

1125
01:34:50.359 --> 01:34:55.600
talk about other things other than remote
viewing. But absolutely, but it's been

1126
01:34:55.600 --> 01:34:58.479
a little business you've been on.
So I wanted to kind of give a

1127
01:34:58.560 --> 01:35:02.720
little remove viewing fresher there for people. Now, we just had doctor schwanker

1128
01:35:02.800 --> 01:35:09.039
Patrick. Did you see doctor Sean
ker Patrick's article I was talking to you

1129
01:35:09.159 --> 01:35:15.279
as the the head of Arrow that
basically came out and said that all of

1130
01:35:15.359 --> 01:35:21.560
the UFOs and the UAPs that people
are seeing are military drones. Well,

1131
01:35:21.680 --> 01:35:26.039
again, you know, if somebody's
talking in terms of absolutes, that always

1132
01:35:26.079 --> 01:35:30.680
causes me to bulk. But look, that's been that was my whole Space

1133
01:35:30.760 --> 01:35:34.720
War Space Race you know podcast,
which has now been done like three times.

1134
01:35:35.439 --> 01:35:40.159
That Whole Space War Space Race podcast
points out, you know, I

1135
01:35:40.279 --> 01:35:45.199
think I've taken the position and I've
said anywhere from you know, I think

1136
01:35:45.359 --> 01:35:48.640
I was on your show. I
think it was on your show that we

1137
01:35:48.800 --> 01:35:53.720
had two guys that were you know, Intel community guys that were saying that

1138
01:35:54.800 --> 01:35:58.279
that they believed that somewhere like ninety
two or ninety three percent of what is

1139
01:35:58.359 --> 01:36:01.399
being reported are all, you know, part of the space war issue.

1140
01:36:02.159 --> 01:36:05.000
And I said, I think it's
a very conservative number. I would submit

1141
01:36:05.039 --> 01:36:10.680
it's probably closer to ninety six and
ninety eight percent, because if you understand

1142
01:36:10.720 --> 01:36:15.079
the pure magnitude of the space war
and the space war is as it is

1143
01:36:15.199 --> 01:36:20.920
now being managed by China and by
Russia, with North Korea in a very

1144
01:36:20.960 --> 01:36:26.159
small way playing and also with Iran
looking for a way to play, maybe

1145
01:36:26.239 --> 01:36:29.920
not with manned vehicles, but certainly
the idea of putting up weapons and or

1146
01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:35.880
reconnaissance capabilities. If you look at
a direct correlation, and there is a

1147
01:36:36.000 --> 01:36:39.560
direct correlation, I don't think I
can show this to you. I don't

1148
01:36:40.119 --> 01:36:43.640
I don't know if I can put
this in here. Can I drop this

1149
01:36:43.760 --> 01:36:49.640
into chat Let's just see op says
it can it dropped in? It said,

1150
01:36:49.640 --> 01:36:54.439
I could drop it in chatting and
just disappeared. So I don't know

1151
01:36:54.840 --> 01:36:59.279
how you can see this. You
can hit present at the bottom of the

1152
01:36:59.399 --> 01:37:01.720
screen and then the share screen,
and then you can go to the window

1153
01:37:01.960 --> 01:37:06.199
or whatever any tab that you would
like to share, and then click it

1154
01:37:06.279 --> 01:37:10.560
and then hit share. All right, let me just see if I can

1155
01:37:10.600 --> 01:37:14.680
do that. I'm not familiar with
this particular platform. I see setting up

1156
01:37:14.720 --> 01:37:21.479
present. Okay, they hit present
there presents share screen. Yeah, well

1157
01:37:21.840 --> 01:37:28.880
I have three monitors, so is
it going to ask me which screen that

1158
01:37:29.000 --> 01:37:32.800
I want to share? It should
just come up the tab you can do

1159
01:37:32.920 --> 01:37:36.560
the window it has like you can
share the window. That should be The

1160
01:37:36.640 --> 01:37:44.720
different tabs are the different It should
all populate on the one one thing,

1161
01:37:45.600 --> 01:37:58.199
no matter how many screens you got. Yeah, I can't. It's like

1162
01:37:58.439 --> 01:38:01.000
I hate this platform now. It's
just like the most annoying platform in the

1163
01:38:01.039 --> 01:38:05.560
world. Lights have to say to
you. It's actually it's actually the easiest

1164
01:38:05.600 --> 01:38:10.880
if you know how to work it. I don't work at DAVE, very

1165
01:38:11.119 --> 01:38:14.920
very simple. I don't think it's
it's sharing it here for you. So,

1166
01:38:15.319 --> 01:38:18.399
but can you see this? Is
it showing a screen here? Now?

1167
01:38:18.600 --> 01:38:21.479
No, it's not showing a screen. Let me see if I can

1168
01:38:21.520 --> 01:38:24.600
pull it up here. If that's
the screen it's going to show it?

1169
01:38:25.680 --> 01:38:33.800
No, so let me see,
because first of all, it's like anything,

1170
01:38:36.159 --> 01:38:41.199
Well, do you have the thing
populated on the screen, Like you

1171
01:38:41.319 --> 01:38:45.000
have to have the document or whatever
that you want to share already popped up

1172
01:38:45.039 --> 01:38:48.319
on the screen, and then when
you hit present, go a screen share

1173
01:38:48.439 --> 01:39:03.119
and then you can well he's gone, you left, m Jenna Banana.

1174
01:39:03.239 --> 01:39:13.159
How's it going? Just me right
now? Rick Jenna, how's it going?

1175
01:39:13.399 --> 01:39:19.920
Savagely good to see my friend Dave
can't figure out the freaking screenshare function

1176
01:39:20.039 --> 01:39:33.119
on stream yard. Here we are. He's back, made it back.

1177
01:39:33.680 --> 01:39:36.399
No, we're just gonna have to
cancel out on that one. I don't

1178
01:39:38.000 --> 01:39:41.680
ye it's I mean, if you
could see it, I mean, if

1179
01:39:41.720 --> 01:39:47.479
there were a way to show it. This is an ESRII UFO sidings since

1180
01:39:47.680 --> 01:39:50.920
nineteen oh four, So all of
you can go look at that. That's

1181
01:39:51.039 --> 01:39:59.399
e sr I UFO sidings since nineteen
oh four. Now look at the UFO

1182
01:39:59.560 --> 01:40:03.399
siding because what will happen is it's
a movie and you play it, and

1183
01:40:03.560 --> 01:40:08.439
it will run for forty eight seconds, and in the forty eight seconds,

1184
01:40:08.479 --> 01:40:14.600
it will traverse the timeline from nineteen
oh four until twenty twenty three. I

1185
01:40:14.840 --> 01:40:20.359
said that the space war began in
nineteen forty five December of the answer to

1186
01:40:20.359 --> 01:40:26.359
the very first question you ask,
writer and everybody else has combatant on in

1187
01:40:26.479 --> 01:40:34.319
various ways. Watch the timeline slide
with sris UFO UAP sidings and see when

1188
01:40:34.680 --> 01:40:42.199
it the lights start to light up. Okay, because what you'll find is

1189
01:40:42.279 --> 01:40:45.880
it starts in nineteen oh four or
nineteen forty five. And oh, yes,

1190
01:40:46.000 --> 01:40:50.000
I know, get you know there
were sightings in sixteen twenty. I

1191
01:40:50.119 --> 01:40:55.760
got it. Remember, I didn't
say that there aren't any alien races or

1192
01:40:55.840 --> 01:41:00.039
vehicles or civilizations. What I said
to you is that six to ninety eight

1193
01:41:00.079 --> 01:41:08.319
percent of what you're seeing and reporting
are nothing more than either gray or black

1194
01:41:08.359 --> 01:41:12.279
projects that are part of the space
program. It's part of the space war

1195
01:41:12.439 --> 01:41:17.119
program, not part of NASA,
part of the space war program. We

1196
01:41:17.239 --> 01:41:24.560
were flying and testing lifting body aircraft
by nineteen sixty five, in nineteen sixty

1197
01:41:24.600 --> 01:41:27.079
eight. If you don't know what
lifting body aircraft means. It means aircraft

1198
01:41:27.159 --> 01:41:31.560
that don't have wings. They were
testifying them. They had test pilots flying

1199
01:41:31.640 --> 01:41:36.079
them at Airwardefforce Base, you know, out in the desert. And so

1200
01:41:38.640 --> 01:41:43.079
they've been working on that stuff since
nineteen sixty five. Nineteen sixty eight,

1201
01:41:43.199 --> 01:41:45.960
some guy who's published a book that
was showing that shows some of the vehicles

1202
01:41:45.000 --> 01:41:47.720
that they were working on, I
mean showing some of the vehicles they were

1203
01:41:47.800 --> 01:41:51.079
test flying on. And that was
in sixty five sixty eight. So think

1204
01:41:51.119 --> 01:41:55.800
where they are now with lifting body
aircraft. When you see pictures of lifting

1205
01:41:55.880 --> 01:41:59.399
body aircraft, now just understand you're
looking at something gray. You're not looking

1206
01:41:59.399 --> 01:42:00.960
at anything black. See, you
really can get the gray. You're just

1207
01:42:01.039 --> 01:42:03.880
looking at what they're allowing you to
see at this point, like they don't

1208
01:42:03.960 --> 01:42:08.800
care or as long as you're paying
attention to that, then you're not paying

1209
01:42:08.840 --> 01:42:13.479
attention to the black project, you
know, which is kind of right up

1210
01:42:13.479 --> 01:42:17.600
their alley. But just look go
to ESRI. It's a website esri dot

1211
01:42:17.840 --> 01:42:21.840
com. I believe, look for
USO sidings as of nineteen oh four.

1212
01:42:24.840 --> 01:42:27.359
You actually, I think it goes
to twenty fourteen, but just take a

1213
01:42:27.399 --> 01:42:30.960
look at it, see what you
think. Then we're knowing that the space

1214
01:42:30.039 --> 01:42:34.399
war began in nineteen forty five.
Thank you. I find it interesting.

1215
01:42:35.199 --> 01:42:43.439
Are these lifting body aircrafts that you're
mentioning able to be piloted by an individual

1216
01:42:43.720 --> 01:42:47.680
or are these just one drones?
The issue is that you have subsonic,

1217
01:42:47.760 --> 01:42:54.319
supersonic and hypersonic flight. Remember as
I said to you, by nineteen forty

1218
01:42:55.239 --> 01:43:00.640
forty eight forty seven, the we're
presenting the DD that they want to manned

1219
01:43:00.680 --> 01:43:06.680
and unmanned hypersonic flight. The challenge
with with manned hypersonic flight is it's hard

1220
01:43:06.800 --> 01:43:13.800
enough to manage hypersonic flight. But
the issue is that if you have human

1221
01:43:14.319 --> 01:43:17.119
beings in hypersonic aircraft and you start
to go up, you know, I

1222
01:43:17.199 --> 01:43:25.039
mean the unmanned drones or some of
them have hypersonic speeds of twenty three thousand

1223
01:43:25.159 --> 01:43:31.680
knots. I mean contemplate that eighteen
thousand, you know, eighteen thousand knots.

1224
01:43:32.479 --> 01:43:38.840
I mean, it's phenomenal what they're
doing, and that's really nothing compared

1225
01:43:38.880 --> 01:43:41.680
to what they can do when they
get up into space. But their re

1226
01:43:41.880 --> 01:43:45.680
entry speeds and their exit speeds can
be upwards of those, and you can't

1227
01:43:45.720 --> 01:43:50.359
put human beings in that. You
can't. The bodies couldn't stand the g

1228
01:43:50.560 --> 01:43:55.479
forces that they would have for something
like that. They could for the re

1229
01:43:55.720 --> 01:43:58.520
entry, you know, as long
as it was you know, straight descent

1230
01:43:58.720 --> 01:44:03.000
or something like that, but most
of these craft have like it's the military

1231
01:44:03.159 --> 01:44:13.079
is moving towards as much autonomous AI
driven, non manned you know, warships,

1232
01:44:13.720 --> 01:44:18.279
war planes, fighter planes, reconnaissance
planes. And they've been after that

1233
01:44:18.479 --> 01:44:24.359
now for quite some time. And
they've been doing it for at least two

1234
01:44:24.439 --> 01:44:27.840
and a half decades, if not
more, actually closer to three decades.

1235
01:44:27.880 --> 01:44:32.399
Why are they doing it? Because
you train a pilot, you know,

1236
01:44:33.680 --> 01:44:39.039
you're training a semi super human to
be capable of doing something right. I

1237
01:44:39.119 --> 01:44:42.600
mean, drag them through the academy
or through some other source to get them

1238
01:44:42.640 --> 01:44:44.840
to that place. You put them
through that kind of training, and then

1239
01:44:44.880 --> 01:44:48.039
you make them a fighter pilot,
and you know, you have to feed

1240
01:44:48.119 --> 01:44:50.159
them, you have to water them, you have to keep them trained,

1241
01:44:50.199 --> 01:44:53.600
you have to keep them current,
you have to pay them a salary.

1242
01:44:53.960 --> 01:44:57.840
You have to take care of their
dependent wife, their dependent children. You

1243
01:44:57.920 --> 01:45:00.479
know, you've got to do all
those things when they retire from the Air

1244
01:45:00.520 --> 01:45:03.319
Force, you have to pay them
retirement, and you have to get sick,

1245
01:45:03.399 --> 01:45:05.359
you have to pay them. You
know, VA has to pay them

1246
01:45:05.760 --> 01:45:10.399
to take care of them. Which
it's all noble and good, but hey,

1247
01:45:11.000 --> 01:45:15.079
the governments of the of the ILK
at this particular point that take If

1248
01:45:15.119 --> 01:45:20.439
we can put a machine in there, a computer that thinks on its own

1249
01:45:20.600 --> 01:45:27.000
and does things within the parameters we
establish, then why the hell aren't we

1250
01:45:27.079 --> 01:45:30.920
doing it? Now? Look,
if you ask my opinion, like if

1251
01:45:30.960 --> 01:45:33.840
I were master the universe, I
would say like, yeah, I'm not

1252
01:45:33.920 --> 01:45:38.760
really cool on that. You know, I think there's could be some problems

1253
01:45:39.399 --> 01:45:43.920
that arise out of that, and
I just I don't have a good sense

1254
01:45:44.119 --> 01:45:46.520
or feeling for it. It could
just be my ignorance of it. My

1255
01:45:46.640 --> 01:45:55.359
point is that it should be looked
at very carefully, and there should be

1256
01:45:55.680 --> 01:45:58.720
again as I said earlier, where
get you aways are all wrong, you

1257
01:45:58.760 --> 01:46:01.319
know, worried about the wrong things. That people should be worrying about that

1258
01:46:01.479 --> 01:46:06.479
kind of stuff and worrying about how
you're going to manage that and maintain it.

1259
01:46:06.600 --> 01:46:11.199
And as best as a people can, you know, through our elected

1260
01:46:11.279 --> 01:46:15.039
officials, there should be really some
careful looking at this, because it is

1261
01:46:16.000 --> 01:46:21.159
a dangerous proposition in my opinion.
It can potentially get away from us.

1262
01:46:21.239 --> 01:46:24.239
And if it gets away from us, then what are you going to do.

1263
01:46:25.520 --> 01:46:28.680
I can't say that it can cognate
faster than a human, but it

1264
01:46:28.840 --> 01:46:32.359
can't because it really can't. But
it can certainly learn faster. And if

1265
01:46:32.399 --> 01:46:35.600
it can learn faster, then it
can out thank you, even though it

1266
01:46:35.680 --> 01:46:41.600
can't cognate and outrun your neural clock
speed. That's kind of improven. So

1267
01:46:41.680 --> 01:46:45.640
it can't run out your neural can't
run your neural clock speed, but it's

1268
01:46:45.640 --> 01:46:54.880
still you're putting an autonomous an autonomous
decision maker that is a computer in intelligence

1269
01:46:55.960 --> 01:46:59.800
that's linked to all other things that
are flying up there with it, so

1270
01:47:00.039 --> 01:47:03.079
that it has a drone mentality.
I mean, it has a you know,

1271
01:47:03.640 --> 01:47:08.239
a hive mentality, if you will. And it's going to go against

1272
01:47:08.239 --> 01:47:12.439
another high mentality. It's going to
be fighter aircraft that can pull you know,

1273
01:47:12.560 --> 01:47:15.800
as many g's as it can pull
and keep the skin on the aircraft,

1274
01:47:15.920 --> 01:47:19.079
you know, and fly at hypersonic
flight and go up and down,

1275
01:47:19.199 --> 01:47:26.640
and you use new exotic propulsion systems
that have been in the works for fifty

1276
01:47:26.760 --> 01:47:31.600
sixty years now, I mean electromagnetic
drives and beyond. And you know,

1277
01:47:31.680 --> 01:47:34.840
then you always have some smart guy
steps up and goes, oh, those

1278
01:47:34.880 --> 01:47:40.920
are ridiculous, those patents are ridiculous. Oh then let me rephrase the patterns

1279
01:47:40.960 --> 01:47:44.119
you're looking at that I just might
have showed you as an example. Those

1280
01:47:44.119 --> 01:47:47.720
are patterns that have been obviously declassified, which means they're not even part of

1281
01:47:48.000 --> 01:47:51.479
maybe part of a great project,
maybe not part of any project anymore.

1282
01:47:51.920 --> 01:47:58.119
The point is, you know that
people have been patenting and working on these

1283
01:47:58.239 --> 01:48:02.119
things for thirty and four and fifty
years. They've been working on this stuff,

1284
01:48:02.479 --> 01:48:08.279
and I don't know anything other than
you know, plasma drives, you

1285
01:48:08.359 --> 01:48:11.960
know fusion. I don't know anything
other than fusion that America, that that

1286
01:48:12.319 --> 01:48:15.640
humans been working on for fifty years
and have not yet quite you know,

1287
01:48:15.800 --> 01:48:19.880
nailed it down. I think you
talk about fusion and you understand fusion energy

1288
01:48:19.920 --> 01:48:24.560
production and fusion drives. I mean
for fifty years they've been going out,

1289
01:48:24.560 --> 01:48:28.199
Well we're twenty we're twenty thirty years
out, so I mean for fifty years

1290
01:48:28.239 --> 01:48:30.680
they've been saying the same thing.
So now you still ask them the questioningly,

1291
01:48:30.800 --> 01:48:34.680
have fifty fifty, thirty to thirty
years out probably before we ever fully

1292
01:48:34.760 --> 01:48:40.319
master it. Fascinating, you know, form of you know, of energy,

1293
01:48:41.359 --> 01:48:45.039
not one that could be readily adapted
into a weapon of war, but

1294
01:48:45.479 --> 01:48:49.399
you know that you're going to see
fission drives are going to be out there,

1295
01:48:49.560 --> 01:48:54.479
and they are coming up with all
kinds of other exotic drives that are

1296
01:48:54.520 --> 01:48:56.720
going to be out there and be
using them, and they are there.

1297
01:48:57.520 --> 01:49:02.239
So I think that they answered long
answer that question is the vast majority of

1298
01:49:02.359 --> 01:49:06.880
what you're seeing, you know,
flying around that makes your mouth drop open,

1299
01:49:08.159 --> 01:49:12.319
or causes some airline pilot or even
a fighter pilot to go I've never

1300
01:49:12.399 --> 01:49:15.800
seen anything like that, never seen
anything with those kinds of flight characteristics.

1301
01:49:15.279 --> 01:49:18.720
No, you have not, because
just because you're a pilot in the United

1302
01:49:18.760 --> 01:49:23.479
States Air Force flying you know,
the fastest aircraft that they happen to make,

1303
01:49:23.560 --> 01:49:26.800
does not mean that they brief you
on a black project or six black

1304
01:49:26.880 --> 01:49:30.640
projects or one hundred and six black
projects. In fact, they never will

1305
01:49:30.720 --> 01:49:33.000
brief you on those projects. If
you take a picture, if your back

1306
01:49:33.079 --> 01:49:38.199
seater takes a picture, and they
come back, you know they'll either decide

1307
01:49:38.279 --> 01:49:41.840
is that a great project or is
it a project We really need to seriously,

1308
01:49:42.520 --> 01:49:46.720
you know, confiscate that photo and
not let it out, which that

1309
01:49:46.920 --> 01:49:53.800
probably wouldn't get very far. They're
very good at protecting that stuff, very

1310
01:49:53.840 --> 01:49:56.720
good at it. But Dave,
it's got to be aliens, because I

1311
01:49:56.800 --> 01:50:01.000
don't know what it is. Now. There's a lot of things that happen,

1312
01:50:01.039 --> 01:50:04.680
you know, it's it's there's a
lot of stuff that contributes to this,

1313
01:50:05.079 --> 01:50:10.359
just the ignorance of things that happen. You know, it's like there's

1314
01:50:10.399 --> 01:50:14.359
a and there's always this idea that
you know, everything's got to be leaked.

1315
01:50:14.520 --> 01:50:16.159
You know, you just get so
sick of hearing that it's been leaked.

1316
01:50:16.439 --> 01:50:20.880
You know, it's like some guys
leaked this or leaked that. It's

1317
01:50:20.920 --> 01:50:26.359
a leaked memorandum talking about you know, aliens. No, it's not.

1318
01:50:26.600 --> 01:50:31.199
It's not leaked. Jesus stupid and
the Pentagon. If it doesn't have if

1319
01:50:31.239 --> 01:50:34.920
it doesn't say top secret at the
top or secret at the top, and

1320
01:50:35.000 --> 01:50:41.000
if every paragraph in it is not
classified, because that's what a secret document

1321
01:50:41.079 --> 01:50:46.439
looks like. Every paragraph is classified, each paragraph because what's in that paragraph

1322
01:50:46.520 --> 01:50:50.119
may not be top secret, that
might only be secret or it might only

1323
01:50:50.199 --> 01:50:54.760
be something else, but as it
works its way down, but everything is,

1324
01:50:55.319 --> 01:51:00.800
every paragraph is classified. So when
it just is a standard memorandum that

1325
01:51:00.960 --> 01:51:06.039
talks about something that you brought up
at the table dealing with UFOs, then

1326
01:51:06.119 --> 01:51:13.279
it's just sheer buffoonery to call that
elked memorandum. Pentagon produces probably ten million

1327
01:51:13.399 --> 01:51:18.239
memorandums a day. You know,
everybody who talks to somebody comes back and

1328
01:51:18.359 --> 01:51:24.199
makes a memorandum for record. That's
what it is called, and it's date

1329
01:51:24.399 --> 01:51:28.239
and timed and on this state.
These people came to my office, you

1330
01:51:28.319 --> 01:51:31.960
know, by our invitation or authorization, and talked about these things and this

1331
01:51:32.159 --> 01:51:35.680
is what they said, this is
what I said, and signed by the

1332
01:51:35.840 --> 01:51:41.840
officer that did the interview or the
non commissioned officer, and then that memorandum

1333
01:51:41.960 --> 01:51:45.399
goes to their boss. And if
it had anything to do with UFOs,

1334
01:51:45.680 --> 01:51:47.560
I assure you, if it went
to one guy's boss about something like that,

1335
01:51:47.600 --> 01:51:53.079
it probably didn't last ten seconds before
it hit the waist camp. You

1336
01:51:53.119 --> 01:51:56.199
know, they weren't conceal it.
They weren't. But the idea that got

1337
01:51:56.319 --> 01:52:00.239
leaked was just acidine. That's somebody
trying to make an issue out of nothing.

1338
01:52:00.600 --> 01:52:02.760
Who then goes and says, hey, man, can I get a

1339
01:52:02.800 --> 01:52:08.479
copy of that memorandum? It's not
classified and it's not even confidential, you

1340
01:52:08.560 --> 01:52:12.600
know, to the officer typed it
up. It's an unclassified, non confidential

1341
01:52:12.680 --> 01:52:15.119
memorandum, just documenting your trip,
what you ask and what I said.

1342
01:52:15.720 --> 01:52:21.039
Sure, here's a copy via email. Oh it's leaked. Now, Well,

1343
01:52:21.119 --> 01:52:26.000
that's the way to put people within
the community, to make it seem

1344
01:52:26.119 --> 01:52:29.640
like that they have something that other
people don't have. Right. It puts

1345
01:52:29.680 --> 01:52:33.800
them on a pedestal, like if
they have leaked information from the Pentagon or

1346
01:52:33.840 --> 01:52:36.920
whatever. It's just the saying that
these people say in order to try and

1347
01:52:38.199 --> 01:52:42.039
booster themselves up to make it seem
like they know what they're talking about is

1348
01:52:42.079 --> 01:52:46.760
what I've found. Yeah, you're
correct. Is exactly why they do that,

1349
01:52:47.199 --> 01:52:53.319
because they get purchase out of it, right, They get people to

1350
01:52:53.439 --> 01:52:57.279
follow and believe, and they put
them up on some pedestal, you know,

1351
01:52:57.359 --> 01:53:01.720
as something special. And the people
do it become very callous about doing

1352
01:53:01.800 --> 01:53:05.880
in a very nonchalant about They couldn't
care less. They don't care whether you

1353
01:53:05.960 --> 01:53:11.840
know, because they understand that that
fifteen minutes of fame is what they're after

1354
01:53:11.920 --> 01:53:15.600
and what they're going to get.
And they also understand the number of people

1355
01:53:15.640 --> 01:53:17.000
are never going to follow up on
it to see whether it's right or what

1356
01:53:17.079 --> 01:53:18.880
was wrong. They don't. All
they have to do is say it.

1357
01:53:19.439 --> 01:53:24.159
If they say it, it's right. But it always comes out of everything

1358
01:53:24.239 --> 01:53:29.720
that you see. It's like this
photograph that this Navy pilot, his back

1359
01:53:29.800 --> 01:53:31.960
seater takes a picture. They see
something come, it's in front of them,

1360
01:53:32.000 --> 01:53:38.119
and they think it's you know,
they've never seen the silhouette of that

1361
01:53:38.239 --> 01:53:41.840
type of a craft. So the
back seater pulls out his iPhone takes a

1362
01:53:41.920 --> 01:53:45.039
picture, you know, and it's
all over YouTube or all over the internet,

1363
01:53:45.119 --> 01:53:49.520
and it's titled as a it's a
spacecraft UAP photo, you know,

1364
01:53:49.680 --> 01:53:55.399
taken by us maybe back seater's iPhone, and it's described as hovering in the

1365
01:53:55.479 --> 01:53:59.439
air. And every reference to that
photo is as a leaked photo. But

1366
01:53:59.520 --> 01:54:03.640
it wasn't leaf. It wasn't leaked
because it wasn't a classified photo, wasn't

1367
01:54:03.840 --> 01:54:11.159
anything that anybody cared about anybody seeing. It was actually a picture taken about

1368
01:54:11.159 --> 01:54:16.760
a mile out of an aircraft.
That is it's called dream Chaser, and

1369
01:54:16.880 --> 01:54:21.319
it actually has a re entry speed
of about sixteen thousand miles per hour that's

1370
01:54:21.479 --> 01:54:27.079
greater than Mack twenty, just so
you can know that it's unmanned. And

1371
01:54:27.199 --> 01:54:31.680
you take that picture and then you
know position that picture so you're actually looking

1372
01:54:31.840 --> 01:54:36.880
at the bottom side of the dream
Chaser about a mile out, you know,

1373
01:54:38.760 --> 01:54:41.640
And first of all, you have
no idea what that silhouette is.

1374
01:54:42.119 --> 01:54:45.680
It's one of the lifting body craft
that doesn't look like it has any wings.

1375
01:54:45.720 --> 01:54:47.279
What it looks like it has is
vertical stabilis, but you can't really

1376
01:54:47.279 --> 01:54:54.359
even see those. And what you
engage in, what that pilot engages in,

1377
01:54:54.439 --> 01:54:57.399
which is why they said that it
looks like it was floating, like

1378
01:54:57.520 --> 01:55:00.880
it was standing still. Is because
even and if you're in the fastest jet

1379
01:55:01.399 --> 01:55:05.359
that they have, right, even
if you're in that fastest jet and something

1380
01:55:05.439 --> 01:55:11.159
comes in at sixteen thousand miles per
hour sixteen knots, you know, MAK

1381
01:55:11.199 --> 01:55:15.640
greater than Mark twenty, and it's
a mile away from you, descending like

1382
01:55:15.760 --> 01:55:20.359
that, and you're up in the
air at what in the photo looks to

1383
01:55:20.439 --> 01:55:26.640
be like thirty thousand feet like your
airliner hype, you have what's no,

1384
01:55:26.960 --> 01:55:33.199
you have no static reference points,
so you experience what's called spatialstory disorientation.

1385
01:55:34.199 --> 01:55:39.359
Spatial disorientation during flight operations. If
you're a pilot like I am, If

1386
01:55:39.399 --> 01:55:42.760
you if you read the FAA manuals, the FAA manual talks about it.

1387
01:55:43.039 --> 01:55:47.600
It's called autokinetic illusion and in instrument
flight, like when you are making an

1388
01:55:47.600 --> 01:55:51.560
approach at night and you're looking out
at a runway, particularly if you're like

1389
01:55:51.640 --> 01:55:56.399
in a desert area. So military
pilots can experience this a lot. You

1390
01:55:56.560 --> 01:55:59.079
up and look out. They can
see the runway lights, but they don't

1391
01:55:59.119 --> 01:56:04.880
see other lights because they're landing in
a military airfield and maybe running a military

1392
01:56:04.920 --> 01:56:09.720
operation as they're doing it, it's
a mission rehearsal, and they get this

1393
01:56:09.960 --> 01:56:15.840
autokinetic illusion, which means that the
runway appears to keep just moving in front

1394
01:56:15.880 --> 01:56:20.279
of them, so they get spatial
disorientation. It's freaky. It's a vertico

1395
01:56:20.640 --> 01:56:26.079
like sensation because the runway looks like
it just keeps going. And the reason

1396
01:56:26.159 --> 01:56:32.119
that that happens is because you don't
know relative velocity in a surfaceless environment.

1397
01:56:32.560 --> 01:56:36.199
You're thirty one thousand feet in the
air, flying in a jet fast moving

1398
01:56:36.319 --> 01:56:40.600
jet and you see something out in
front of you, it appears to stand

1399
01:56:40.720 --> 01:56:46.600
still in the air because you can't
see its relative velocity. There's nothing can

1400
01:56:46.720 --> 01:56:50.640
compare it to. There are no
telephone poles, no mountains, no clouds,

1401
01:56:51.079 --> 01:56:57.279
there's just nothing. But you know, the sky above and the ground

1402
01:56:57.439 --> 01:57:01.640
so far below that you can't measure
thelocity. You can barely measure velocity if

1403
01:57:01.640 --> 01:57:04.800
you look down. So the only
thing the pilot has for him to know

1404
01:57:04.960 --> 01:57:10.239
velocity is to know his own velocity
by looking at his instrument panel. And

1405
01:57:10.359 --> 01:57:14.760
it is an absence of a static
reference point that causes him to be able

1406
01:57:14.800 --> 01:57:18.960
to differentiate whether that thing is staying
directly in front of them, whether it's

1407
01:57:19.039 --> 01:57:24.119
hovering, or where other it's even
coming back out of them. They can't

1408
01:57:24.279 --> 01:57:27.960
really tell unless it passed them or
something like that. But when it just

1409
01:57:28.079 --> 01:57:31.640
keeps there and you're going at you
know, mock three, you know,

1410
01:57:31.880 --> 01:57:38.039
let's say in a fifteen ex or
something. Yeah, you're going just under

1411
01:57:38.079 --> 01:57:42.399
mock three, and something else is
just over mark twenty and it's a mile

1412
01:57:42.479 --> 01:57:45.920
away, no static reference point.
It looks to you like it's hovering in

1413
01:57:45.960 --> 01:57:50.359
the air. It's a common phenomenon
but hey, it gets nobody analyzes that.

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They just all make the comment that
yeah, it's uh, you know,

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it's it was standing still in the
air and it's a leaked photo,

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01:57:58.800 --> 01:58:03.399
neither of which was true. That's
incredible. I didn't I didn't know that

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01:58:03.560 --> 01:58:09.000
about the pilots there would be that
they would experience something similar to what you're

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01:58:09.039 --> 01:58:14.680
describing, like an illusion, almost
autokinetic illusion. Yeah, it's write any

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01:58:14.840 --> 01:58:18.760
FAA manual. And it happens because
you cannot because you have no static reference

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01:58:18.840 --> 01:58:24.600
point, you cannot establish relative velocity
of that object in relation to you.

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01:58:24.840 --> 01:58:30.319
So it looks like it's standing still, right or just following leading out in

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01:58:30.399 --> 01:58:34.760
front of you and standing there.
So awesome, Dave, Well, thanks

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01:58:34.840 --> 01:58:39.119
so much for coming on the show. I really appreciate you telling this evening.

1424
01:58:39.520 --> 01:58:42.680
I'm glad we got to do it. It's been been planning it for

1425
01:58:42.960 --> 01:58:46.279
over a month now and I'm glad
we got to get it together and come

1426
01:58:46.319 --> 01:58:49.720
on here and have an amazing conversation. Can you let people know where to

1427
01:58:49.800 --> 01:58:56.520
find you online? Yeah, it's
just go to Davidmoorhouse dot org. That

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01:58:56.840 --> 01:59:01.239
is the official website. I don't
the other one, the David borouse dot

1429
01:59:01.319 --> 01:59:04.439
com, and I do not endorse
what is on there, but just go

1430
01:59:04.560 --> 01:59:10.720
to David mooreouse dot org and you
can find me there and find where I'm

1431
01:59:10.720 --> 01:59:13.680
at and what I'm doing. There's
a link there to the YouTube channel.

1432
01:59:14.800 --> 01:59:17.680
It's not a monetized YouTube channel.
It's just all a listing of all my

1433
01:59:17.840 --> 01:59:20.840
stuff. You know, that's there, so you can go there and throw

1434
01:59:20.960 --> 01:59:24.000
darts at things. You know,
you can do whatever you want to do.

1435
01:59:25.720 --> 01:59:28.479
Thanks so much, Dave. The
links to all of these information is

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01:59:28.520 --> 01:59:30.760
in the description of this video.
Thanks ever so much. Everyone in the

1437
01:59:30.840 --> 01:59:34.960
child really appreciate you guys. I
love all you guys, and please be

1438
01:59:35.000 --> 01:59:39.239
sure to hit the thumbs up button
I help the channel on the algorithm.

1439
01:59:39.279 --> 01:59:45.000
Sure subscribe at the belicon as well
for notifications. And I will be traveling

1440
01:59:45.680 --> 01:59:51.840
next week for about five days to
shoot our Me and j Widner's second documentary,

1441
01:59:51.960 --> 01:59:57.039
so I will not have any shows
next week, so this one will

1442
01:59:57.039 --> 02:00:00.960
be the last one for the next
week. So well, I'll see you

1443
02:00:00.039 --> 02:00:03.279
guys back when I see you guys
back. All right, thank you,

1444
02:00:03.319 --> 02:00:06.199
guys, Let me say thank you, and let me say how much I

1445
02:00:06.319 --> 02:00:12.560
respect you and your work. So
good please thank you so much, Dave.

1446
02:00:12.640 --> 02:00:15.239
I really appreciate your time to see
you. All of his links are

1447
02:00:15.279 --> 02:00:18.039
in the description of this video.
All right, see you guys next time.

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By everyone, Okay,